Part of the Bay Area News Group

Health of Raiders’ DTs a concern

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.

There’s still three full days of recovery to go, but one of the Raiders biggest concerns heading in to Sunday’s game against the Houston Texans will be if they’ll be healthy enough to keep running back Arian Foster and their cutback running system under control.

Although John Henderson suited up and went out to practice Wednesday, he spent the end of the warm-up and drill portion of practice being worked on by trainers and was officially listed as not having practiced.

Henderson didn’t practice at all last week, and foot injuries become more of an issue when supporting some 335-plus pounds.

Also not practicing was defensive tackle Richard Seymour, which was no surprise given his admission Monday that he was affected by his hamstring pull against Arizona and was lacking explosion and power.

Seymour talked openly of trying to determine the best course of action _ weighing the help he can give against the risk of making it worse and having a condition which could limit him for the entire season.

It appears the best-case scenario would be to have Henderson and Seymour play at less than 100 percent against a team which desperately needs defensive tackles to both hold their ground and break through a zone blocking chain which will look to get Foster free on the backside.

Or perhaps one or the other doesn’t play, meaning more work for Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant and Jay Alford.

At worst, both Henderson and Seymour are unavailable or can’t finish the game against an offensive system which tends to be at its best late in the game with the lead when the defense is tiring.

More news, notes and quotes following coach Tom Cable’s post-practice briefing:

– Cable has coached zone blocking teams since working at Atlanta with Alex Gibbs, and talked about the best way for a defense to deal with it.

“They’re able to distort it. If they let it get moving, think of pulling on one end of the rope, and it all moves in the same direction,’’ Cable said. “If we allow that to happen it gets going on you, and they’ve done that a few times this year already. What you have to do is disrupt or distort that rope, make it uneven, if you will, and if you can do that, you take away those seams and those run lanes.’’

– A long injury list which Cable said for the most part was not overly serious.

Those who did not practice were WR Chaz Schilens (knee), LG Robert Gallery (hamstring), LB Travis Goethel (lower back), Henderson (foot), Seymour (hamstring), S Hiram Eugene (hamstring), CB Chris Johnson (ankle), CB Walter McFadden (hamstring) and WR Louis Murphy (clavicle).

Players listed as limited were G Cooper Carlisle (undisclosed), RG Langston Walker (elbow), CB Jeremy Ware (undisclosed) and TE Zach Miller (undisclosed).

Cable said Schilens “is making good progress. I’d say in the last five or six days, it’s been very positive.’’

– Alex Joseph, a first-year linebacker out of Temple, was added to the practice squad. He takes the place of Stevie Brown, who was promoted to the 53-man roster for the second time in two weeks prior to the Arizona game and may actually stay there awhile this time.

– Cable doesn’t seem overly concerned about a Raiders red zone defense which has given up touchdowns seven times in eight possessions.

Arizona did very little offensively against the Raiders but was 2-for-2 in close, making it look easy both times.

“We’ve been very productive and for three years we’ve been one of the very best red-zone defenses in football,’’ Cable said.“The other day, it was the simple fact of looking up a receiver in zone at a linebacker spot. Just a very fundamental thing down there.’’

– Cable was predictably (and wisely) tight-lipped when asked if more duty for Michael Bush would mean more use of Darren McFadden as a receiver.

McFadden has 73 rushes and 10 receptions through three games, with Bush playing only a small role in Week 3.

“You never know,’’ Cable said.

– Houston wide receiver Andre Johnson said by conference call he expected to play against the Raiders (he has a high ankle sprain) and is aware Nnamdi Asomugha shadowed and shut down Larry Fitzgerald against Arizona.

“He’s a great player, arguably the best cornerback in the game,’’ Johnson said. “He doesn’t really have many balls thrown his way. It’s not shocking to see that.’’

Johnson said Asomugha hasn’t shadowed him in the past.

When the Raiders beat the Texas 27-16 in Week 16, Johnson came in with 103 receptions for 1,408 yards and didn’t catch a pass until well into the second half.

Johnson got some coverage from Asomugha that day, and quite a bit from Chris Johnson, who missed last week’s game with an ankle injury and is now the nickel back when healthy instead of the starter.

– Former Raiders showing up elsewhere _ the Carolina Panthers signed guard-center Chris Morris. The Seattle Seahawks added Slade Norris to the practice squad.

  • Share/Bookmark

[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]

  • raiderzmaverick

    I think we’ll stand a much better chance if we go hog-wild and agreesive as hell on defense. Remember last year when we blitzed the heck out of Eagles and won. Supprised everybody. I think we have to play like that if we want to stand a chance and shock the heck out of everybody.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Drexl, is there anyone other than Cable and Jackson who know the entire Raider culture has become a joke, and trying to do something about it as they are? Or is it just them two and a bunch of Davis minions? They’re the only two people in the building who get it, aren’t they?

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    how can you hate Al Davis and love Ron Wolf, John Madden, Jon Gruden or Bruce Gradkowski?

    who do you think signed thier checks?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Is that a joke? How does one have to do with the other?

    In answer, easy. Al drove off Madden, and drove off Gruden.

  • mikedlopes

    Depth Chart

    #1. Grakowski
    #2. Boller
    #3. Campbell

  • raiderzmaverick

    # Kirk Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:59 am

    Grads is a good quarterback.

    Any quarterback who can score points with this offensive line and these receivers is a fking genius.
    ——————————–
    Agreed that under the circumstances he’s pulling things out of a hat. Same thing as last year

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    The time out coordinator is not doing so hot getting the time outs called. WTF!
    Again with his excuse “couldn’t get the referees attention”. WTF!

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    SammyTheBull, what previous name did you post under?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    posted with this name for quite a while. just dont come by that often.
    If I asked u the same question, from what Ive read, your reply would exceed the bandwidth allowed for the day.

  • PurpleDrank81

    I say we let John Condo play QB….

  • DKnight007

    Keys to the game for Raiders to win:

    Study film and use pissed off energy and channel it towards being focuses and aggressive against the Texans at home. Do NOT lay and egg.

    Contain Foster and make sure Kevin Walter doesn’t beat you. AJ is hurt and Nnamdi will take care of him most of the time.

    Create turnovers on defense and disguise blitz packages and get consistent pressure on Schaub! Do not give him time to throw. He needs to be harassed all game long.

    On offense….MIX up the play calling and get everyone involved and use DMC and Bush more in the passing game.

    Use Marcel Reece in the passing game as well as a sneak attack in the passing game.

    Call more roll out plays to move the pocket abd buy Grads more time to find an open receiver.

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Mistic, you don’t think Campbell is better than Gradkowski? I thought that was your whole problem with Gradkowski, is that he was starting over Campbell, who you think is better. Wasn’t that your argument yesterday, or the day before that?
    ===============================================================
    You are wrong! I know Campbell is a better qb than grads, the numbers career for career tell me that, and what i have seen with my own eyes over the last few years tell me that.

    How ever grads has grasped the offense better to this point, so grads should start until campbell is up to speed. Why cant you get this? Why do you insist on starting this up again?

  • DKnight007

    Of course….special teams need to step it the hell up for once also!

    Hue needs to call a few reverse plays with Ford or DHB.

  • DMAC

    Dnight,
    You forgot one thing. Score TD’s in the redzone and not FG’s!

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    I say we let John Condo play QB….
    ———————-
    He should kick field goals too.

  • DKnight007

    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    Dnight,
    You forgot one thing. Score TD’s in the redzone and not FG’s!

    ^^^^^^^
    Oh yeah….that should go without saying by now!

    Sheesh….

    Anyone know if the game is sold out or not?

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    mistic1 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    You are wrong! I know Campbell is a better qb than grads,

    ……………..

    That’s what I thought you said. So, again, why would you pretend Campbell is better than Gradkowski when you know Gradkowski is better? Are you related to Campbell?

  • mistic1

    # SammyTheBull Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    how can you hate Al Davis and love Ron Wolf, John Madden, Jon Gruden or Bruce Gradkowski?

    who do you think signed thier checks?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Is that a joke? How does one have to do with the other?

    In answer, easy. Al drove off Madden, and drove off Gruden.
    =============================================================
    Not true! madden retired due to ulcers. Gruden wanted more money and final say over the roster and staff, rather than let him leave and get nothing back, Davis traded him to try and recoup value ( admittedly it didnt work out for us), because he thought he had the next coach in waiting, callahan.

  • DKnight007

    I’m pretty sure it’s not going to be unless the team buys the remaining tickets.

  • PurpleDrank81

    I say we just send condo out by himself every play…. He’s superman with no cape

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Come on, Sammy. What was your previous name? And why did you get banned?

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    I say we just send condo out by himself every play…. He’s superman with no cape
    —————
    Krikey! Now I’m geeked! Definitely needs a raise!

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    mistic1 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    You are wrong! I know Campbell is a better qb than grads,

    ……………..

    That’s what I thought you said. So, again, why would you pretend Campbell is better than Gradkowski when you know Gradkowski is better? Are you related to Campbell?
    =============================================================

    I cant even begin to follow this, what are you talking about? and what is your point? Ok your dating gradskowski, fine…im not judging you

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic, how do you know why Madden retired? Did he talk to you personally about it?

    And, couldn’t Gruden having wanted complete control of the roster be a reason why Davis “wanted him out”, as Sammy said? That doesn’t refute Sammy’s point.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Mistic, I’m just asking you if you’re related to Campbell, or if you know him personally. You know Gradkowski is better than him, but you’re insisting Campbell is better. I just want to know why. I figured you knew Campbell personally. That’s all.

  • PurpleDrank81

    So much arguing in here lately…..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    mistic1 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Once again, brother, THAT IS YOUR OPINION. You have no way of proving or backing up that claim. I have never, NEVER, heard one analyst, coach, or broadcaster say this and I have been watching football for over 30 years.
    ===============================================================
    some of the greatest kickers in history have fg% under 70%, try these on for size, stenerude hall of famer 66%, our beloved blanda r.i.p 52%, mark mosely 65%.
    …………….

    Those guys wouldn’t miss a 32 yarder for the win. Thats what makes them different.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Al Davis won’t blame his almost total neglect of that area of the team, of course. He’ll just hang it on Tom Cable for not coaching them right.

    Carl Steward.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Kell, good job sending Bob on a tailspin the past couple of days.

  • DMAC

    “Why can’t we all just get along?”

    http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2009/09/rodney-king.jpg

  • The Big Banana

    1960RAIDER ====================>
    30 Year Raider ===================>
    7o7Raider ======================>
    860Todd Christensen ==============>
    8RaiderReign8 ===================>
    909RaiderLifer ===================>
    Aig-raiders =====================> Raiders 27-24
    ArmChair GM ====================>
    BART Bridge Blues ================>
    Bauce 4 Real ====================>
    Bboyink =======================>
    Bcz24 =========================>
    BigLefty ========================>
    BigTed707 ======================>
    BigZ@CSM ======================>
    Bo Schembechler Jackson ============>
    Bob Marley ======================>
    Braveheartraider ==================>
    Buckeyeraider ====================>
    BumpNRun ======================>
    Captain Mudslide & the Dingle Berry Posse >
    Carl Weather ====================>
    Chris in NY ======================>
    CJ Legend 34 ====================>
    Coach on Wheels =================>
    Da Trinity =======================>
    Dakota =========================> Texans 38-17
    Daraider09 ======================>
    Darkside666 =====================>
    DeuceDeuce =====================> Raiders 24-20
    DirtyRaccoon =====================>
    DKnight007 ======================>
    DMAC ==========================>
    Drexl ==========================>
    DT42 ==========================>
    El Gato Negro ====================>
    El Tato =========================>
    ELWAYs TEETH ===================>
    EMRaiders =======================>
    EPTRaider915 ====================>
    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder ==========> Texans 37-21
    Fat Kid =========================>
    GaiterRaider =====================>
    GG ============================> Raiders 30-27
    Ghost To The Post =================>
    Guest123 =======================> Raiders 31-27
    HairyBush =======================> Texans 27-10
    Inonewordraider ===================>
    J Hill ===========================>
    JB =============================>
    JLofty ==========================>
    Jmackraider12 ====================>
    Jmello21 ========================>
    Just Fire Baby =====================> Raiders 27-23
    Kklutch =========================>
    Kidseven ========================>
    Kirk ===========================>
    Koolkell =========================>
    L.A. Raider Dave ===================>
    La Milicia Negra ====================>
    LT DAN =========================>
    LTR ===========================>
    Lynn From Snot ===================>
    Mahlhavoc =======================>
    MEX_GHOST =====================> Raiders 27-20
    MistaBr0wn ======================>
    mkyd1963 =======================>
    New Englandraider =================>
    Nnamdi21 =======================>
    No Mas Diamante ==================>
    NoLuv4Hoes ======================>
    NorCalBones =====================>
    Norco Bob =======================>
    Oakland_raiders ===================>
    PassTheCheetos ===================>
    PhillyRAIDERNATION ================>
    Plunketthead =====================>
    PlunkforHOF =====================>
    Pretty Rick =======================>
    PurpleDrank81 ====================>
    R8dercain =======================> Raiders 30-24
    R8eray =========================>
    RADRNATN ======================>
    Raider D ========================>
    Raider Dog ======================>
    Raider E ========================>
    Raider O ========================> Raiders 30-27
    Raider75 ========================>
    RaiderFanFromJersey ===============>
    Raiderjambo =====================>
    RaiderLen =======================>
    RaiderRetribution ==================>
    RaiderRockstar ====================> Raiders 28-24
    Raiders_83 ======================>
    Raiders For Life ===================>
    Raiders13LA ======================>
    Raiders22 =======================>
    Raiderzmaverick ===================> Texans 34-20
    Random Drug Tester ================>
    RedneckRaider ====================>
    RNORaiderFan ====================>
    Ryan ===========================> Raiders 38-17
    Senior Beecham ===================>
    SharkCatcher =====================>
    SilverAndBlackBleeder ===============>
    SilverNBlackPA ====================>
    SR Raider =======================>
    Stabler76 =======================>
    StayinBlack ======================>
    Stoopidmike =====================>
    TazZraider =======================>
    TBRaiders =======================>
    The Big Banana ===================> Texans 27-23
    The Real MaddenRaider =============>
    Thec07 =========================>
    Toyz ===========================>
    Weaselbit =======================>
    WetLunGz =======================>

  • DMAC

    Andre Johnson (ankle) was held out of practice again on Thursday.
    Johnson did some running Thursday, but he’s still headed toward a game-decision. The Texans are not good enough to assume a victory in a road game against a feisty Raiders squad. Johnson is preparing as if he’s going to play, though he’s not a no-brainer fantasy option against Nnamdi Asomugha this week.
    Source: Houston Texans on Twitter

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    # Raider75 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    mistic1 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Once again, brother, THAT IS YOUR OPINION. You have no way of proving or backing up that claim. I have never, NEVER, heard one analyst, coach, or broadcaster say this and I have been watching football for over 30 years.
    ===============================================================
    some of the greatest kickers in history have fg% under 70%, try these on for size, stenerude hall of famer 66%, our beloved blanda r.i.p 52%, mark mosely 65%.
    …………….

    Those guys wouldn’t miss a 32 yarder for the win. Thats what makes them different.
    —————————–
    Or repeatedly Toweling off the inside of his helmet and his sweaty done. Dude needs a diet.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    What’s this on the news right now? Meg Whitman’s mad was illegal? Wow. Not good timing, Meg.

  • PurpleDrank81

    So Im hoping for a 3peat and having Dmac run for another 100 yard game….Still waitin on a DHB touchdown

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    maid, not mad

  • PurpleDrank81

    If Bruce leads us to a winning season elect him as Governor

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    I would like to see a DHB touchdown myself. Two would be even better.

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Mistic, how do you know why Madden retired? Did he talk to you personally about it?

    And, couldn’t Gruden having wanted complete control of the roster be a reason why Davis “wanted him out”, as Sammy said? That doesn’t refute Sammy’s point.
    ===============================================================
    Madden has said on several occasions that he was forced to retire becuase of ulcers, also it was a big story when it happened ( where you a raider fan then?).

    Of course gruden wanting more money and final say over the roster and staff caused an impass between he and davis. Gruden would have walked. Calling it force out when you dont get what you want in a negotiation….maybe.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    (No Raiders OL will ever be as bad as Art Shell’s crew in 2006. Interestingly, Al keeps alternating between OL specialists like Shell & Cable and offensive gameplanners like Norv Turner & Lane Kiffin… and the OL always stinks and the offensive gameplan is almost always a fizzle.)

    Kawakami

  • DMAC

    Later peoples!
    Go A’s!
    Go DUBS!
    Go Cal Bears!
    Go Raiders!

  • DMAC

    Oh yeah.
    Go Fremont High Tigers!

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    The gunman who allegedly pistol-whipped Jacksonville Jaguars WR Kassim Osgood and a cheerleader — also yelled, “Tell me you f**ked her,” during the attack … TMZ has learned.
    According to the report, Bartletto first pistol-whipped Osgood and Putnal, then held them at gunpoint — and told her, “Suck my d**k and suck his d**k.”

    Shortly after that police say Osgood fled by jumping out a 2nd floor window, while Putnal and Bartletto exchanged gunshots.

    Bartletto, an ex-boyfriend of Putnal, was arrested on suspicion of aggravated battery, false imprisonment, armed robbery, and burglary — and he’s still in jail.
    ——————-
    Krikey! Players dating cheerleaders = not to smart.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    No possibility Madden could have been lying, Mistic? If he quit due to Al’s meddling or any kind of harassment, think he’d admit that to the press?

    Why would Gruden wanting more money and final say over the roster cause an impasse? It was Davis who wanted him to leave then, right? Because Davis didn’t want to give him those things. So Gruden didn’t want to leave, he wanted to be paid what he was worth and have the control he deserved to have. Davis wanted him to leave because he asked for this. It was Davis who wanted Gruden on. Hence, Davis drove Gruden out, as Sammy said earlier.

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    Isn’t it common knowledge Al ran Gruden off?
    Isn’t trading someone the same thing as running them off?
    Why is this even an argument?

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real GradkowskiRaider

    Whitman’s offering to take polygraph test on maid! LOL. Biggest admission of guilt there is.

    “I’ll take a polygraph!”

    (polygraph determines they’re lying)

    “The machine can’t be relied upon”

  • LTR

    Thought this was an interesting quote:

    Then he gained 105 against Arizona, making a strong impression on Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett.

    “I have great respect for that man,” Dockett said after the game. “That [expletive] runs hard. I mean harder than anybody I’ve ever seen.”

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore The Real CondoRaider

    ^^ I need a raise!!!

  • PurpleDrank81

    Haha yes you do sir yes you do

  • LTR

    Gruden wasn’t coming back after the next year. He wanted to be near his family. Al obliged him and traded him to TB for ton of cash and draft picks.

  • mistic1

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    No possibility Madden could have been lying, Mistic? If he quit due to Al’s meddling or any kind of harassment, think he’d admit that to the press?

    Why would Gruden wanting more money and final say over the roster cause an impasse? It was Davis who wanted him to leave then, right? Because Davis didn’t want to give him those things. So Gruden didn’t want to leave, he wanted to be paid what he was worth and have the control he deserved to have. Davis wanted him to leave because he asked for this. It was Davis who wanted Gruden on. Hence, Davis drove Gruden out, as Sammy said earlier.
    =============================================================

    Davis wanted to retain gruden, but did not want o pay him what he was asking for. Davis has always said players win super bowls not coaches, so he doesnt believe in shelling out huge money for them. he has won 3 superbowls with this style so Im ok with it. gruden went on to win the superbowl with a super bowl ready team, dungy’s team, and hed the advantage of knowing our playbook. What can you say, every move wont work out in your favor,

    Control over roster spots is not as common as most fans think it is. There are plenty of coaches, even superbowl champion coaches that dont have that kind of clout. Davis believes he knows best for his team. Im fine with the owner calling the shots, after all he has over 40 years of nfl football knowledge and experience. Our draft class is evidence that the old man still has it. gruden by the way went on after the super bowl to make some real bone headed personel moves, and eventually was fired for it. He drafted tuiososopo in oaklnd as the qb of the future, and drafted grads in tampa, hrdly the guy I would want putting together my roster.

    There have been very few guys in the history of the nfl that win as both coach and gm.

    You have been fun, but im tired of kicking your but…its scuffing my shoes.

  • CJ Legend 34

    548 – Yeah,than Gruden came back to town for the Superbowl kicked our butts exposed Rich Gannon and lived happly ever after and we still have not been the same.

    Way to go Al?