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Health of Raiders’ DTs a concern

There’s still three full days of recovery to go, but one of the Raiders biggest concerns heading in to Sunday’s game against the Houston Texans will be if they’ll be healthy enough to keep running back Arian Foster and their cutback running system under control.

Although John Henderson suited up and went out to practice Wednesday, he spent the end of the warm-up and drill portion of practice being worked on by trainers and was officially listed as not having practiced.

Henderson didn’t practice at all last week, and foot injuries become more of an issue when supporting some 335-plus pounds.

Also not practicing was defensive tackle Richard Seymour, which was no surprise given his admission Monday that he was affected by his hamstring pull against Arizona and was lacking explosion and power.

Seymour talked openly of trying to determine the best course of action _ weighing the help he can give against the risk of making it worse and having a condition which could limit him for the entire season.

It appears the best-case scenario would be to have Henderson and Seymour play at less than 100 percent against a team which desperately needs defensive tackles to both hold their ground and break through a zone blocking chain which will look to get Foster free on the backside.

Or perhaps one or the other doesn’t play, meaning more work for Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant and Jay Alford.

At worst, both Henderson and Seymour are unavailable or can’t finish the game against an offensive system which tends to be at its best late in the game with the lead when the defense is tiring.

More news, notes and quotes following coach Tom Cable’s post-practice briefing:

– Cable has coached zone blocking teams since working at Atlanta with Alex Gibbs, and talked about the best way for a defense to deal with it.

“They’re able to distort it. If they let it get moving, think of pulling on one end of the rope, and it all moves in the same direction,’’ Cable said. “If we allow that to happen it gets going on you, and they’ve done that a few times this year already. What you have to do is disrupt or distort that rope, make it uneven, if you will, and if you can do that, you take away those seams and those run lanes.’’

– A long injury list which Cable said for the most part was not overly serious.

Those who did not practice were WR Chaz Schilens (knee), LG Robert Gallery (hamstring), LB Travis Goethel (lower back), Henderson (foot), Seymour (hamstring), S Hiram Eugene (hamstring), CB Chris Johnson (ankle), CB Walter McFadden (hamstring) and WR Louis Murphy (clavicle).

Players listed as limited were G Cooper Carlisle (undisclosed), RG Langston Walker (elbow), CB Jeremy Ware (undisclosed) and TE Zach Miller (undisclosed).

Cable said Schilens “is making good progress. I’d say in the last five or six days, it’s been very positive.’’

– Alex Joseph, a first-year linebacker out of Temple, was added to the practice squad. He takes the place of Stevie Brown, who was promoted to the 53-man roster for the second time in two weeks prior to the Arizona game and may actually stay there awhile this time.

– Cable doesn’t seem overly concerned about a Raiders red zone defense which has given up touchdowns seven times in eight possessions.

Arizona did very little offensively against the Raiders but was 2-for-2 in close, making it look easy both times.

“We’ve been very productive and for three years we’ve been one of the very best red-zone defenses in football,’’ Cable said.“The other day, it was the simple fact of looking up a receiver in zone at a linebacker spot. Just a very fundamental thing down there.’’

– Cable was predictably (and wisely) tight-lipped when asked if more duty for Michael Bush would mean more use of Darren McFadden as a receiver.

McFadden has 73 rushes and 10 receptions through three games, with Bush playing only a small role in Week 3.

“You never know,’’ Cable said.

– Houston wide receiver Andre Johnson said by conference call he expected to play against the Raiders (he has a high ankle sprain) and is aware Nnamdi Asomugha shadowed and shut down Larry Fitzgerald against Arizona.

“He’s a great player, arguably the best cornerback in the game,’’ Johnson said. “He doesn’t really have many balls thrown his way. It’s not shocking to see that.’’

Johnson said Asomugha hasn’t shadowed him in the past.

When the Raiders beat the Texas 27-16 in Week 16, Johnson came in with 103 receptions for 1,408 yards and didn’t catch a pass until well into the second half.

Johnson got some coverage from Asomugha that day, and quite a bit from Chris Johnson, who missed last week’s game with an ankle injury and is now the nickel back when healthy instead of the starter.

– Former Raiders showing up elsewhere _ the Carolina Panthers signed guard-center Chris Morris. The Seattle Seahawks added Slade Norris to the practice squad.

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  • aig-raiders

    I remember the annoucer saying Dan Williams is the back up DT out there. McClain has improved each game so far. I know we made the right choice.

  • DMAC

    Jets released NT Howard Green.
    Green is losing his roster spot to veteran Trevor Pryce, but he’s expected to be brought back on Monday. Perhaps the Ravens will lure him to Baltimore.
    Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
    ==========
    Green anyone?

  • CJ Legend 34

    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:37 am
    JLH is cool as a receiever and thats all. Shouldn’t be part of any special teams.

    —————————————————-

    Not even punt returns?

  • LA to TheBay

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 9:44 am
    JLH’s job is not safe

    ***

    LA, just admit that your a hater and move on

    Higgins is our 3rd receiver and punt returner

    his job is safer than Ford, NMiller, Myers, Bennett, Cartwright, Cable, half the O-Line and half the secondary at this point

    Lol, OK I’m a hater.

    JLH had ample opportunity to return punts last year.

    When Grads was the QB is the ONLY time that JLH was able to do anything at receiver and he looked ok. Not good, not great, but OK.

    JLH’s primary contribution to the team is returning punts and he was AWFUL (repeat AWFUL) last year. We were dead last, I believe.

    He’s been decent this year, ands there’s lots of football left so we’ll see.

  • aig-raiders

    you’re crazy G123

    DMac vs 31st D.

    Mendenhall vs Baltimore….

    Dmac all day!

  • guest123

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:38 am
    If it weren’t for the Raiders, he’d be bouncing around NFL practice squads

    ***

    G123, I expected more from you

    ###############

    Sorry to disappoint RRS, Now you know how I feel about your RoMac hate.

    I don’t get that man! I’ll stop my JLH, keep it to myself. Didn’t know how much it upsets you all. Just please be kinder to RoMac.

  • DMAC

    # CJ Legend 34 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:37 am
    JLH is cool as a receiever and thats all. Shouldn’t be part of any special teams.

    —————————————————-

    Not even punt returns?
    =======================
    Hell to the NO!

  • RaiderRockstar

    JFB,

    if you want to be foolish enough to suggest that Williams or Cody wouldn’t improve our Run D because of how well they’ve faired for OTHER TEAMS, be my guest … by the way Cam Thomas was a 5th rounder

    nobody predicted him to be taken in the first 2 rounds!

    and even after the draft we could have signed Jamal Williams or Maake Kemoeatu in free agency … but didn’t

    Al Davis has a love affair with Tommy Kelly for some reason. I thought this cat should have been asked to take a MAJOR paycut during the offseason, if he even had a job

  • CJ Legend 34

    aig-raiders Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:40 am
    I remember the annoucer saying Dan Williams is the back up DT out there. McClain has improved each game so far. I know we made the right choice.

    —————————————————
    McClain is going to be a beast for us one day.
    Leader on the field as a rookie and he is still very fresh at his game. May never be a punishing hitter but he will be solid.

  • LA to TheBay

    McPain > Capt. Kirk Armtackle

  • CJ Legend 34

    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:42 am
    # CJ Legend 34 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:37 am
    JLH is cool as a receiever and thats all. Shouldn’t be part of any special teams.

    —————————————————-

    Not even punt returns?
    =======================
    Hell to the NO!
    ——————————–
    LOL!!! Who do you think should be returning punts and where is Nick Miller?

  • DMAC

    Miller or Jacoby.

  • Just Fire Baby

    JFB,

    if you want to be foolish enough to suggest that Williams or Cody wouldn’t improve our Run D because of how well they’ve faired for OTHER TEAMS, be my guest …

    *********************************

    Well being that they haven’t improved their own teams run D, and the Cardinals are dramatically worse, and the Raiders HAVE IMPROVED their run D, I will stick with the actual facts, thanks.

  • DMAC

    All three have been practicing punt return duties in practice.

  • guest123

    aig-raiders Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:41 am
    you’re crazy G123

    DMac vs 31st D.

    Mendenhall vs Baltimore….

    Dmac all day!

    **************************

    Scenario: Opening kickoff ran back for TD. Texans 7-0 lead, then we get behind and are trailing by 10 after one quarter. We have to throw to get back in the game. And then McFadden runs less than he has because of the catchup offense.

    Question: Is this a believable or likely possibility?

  • CJ Legend 34

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:43 am
    JFB,

    if you want to be foolish enough to suggest that Williams or Cody wouldn’t improve our Run D because of how well they’ve faired for OTHER TEAMS, be my guest … by the way Cam Thomas was a 5th rounder

    nobody predicted him to be taken in the first 2 rounds!

    and even after the draft we could have signed Jamal Williams or Maake Kemoeatu in free agency … but didn’t

    Al Davis has a love affair with Tommy Kelly for some reason. I thought this cat should have been asked to take a MAJOR paycut during the offseason, if he even had a job
    —————————————————–

    Man I would love to have Williams in the silver and black.

    RR what has Tommy Kelly done lately, anything? It is hard to tell when all the games are blacked otu and you are watching highlights.

  • CJ Legend 34

    415 – Likely possible and we know this man!!!

  • LA to TheBay

    It is a known fact that Kirk bit on play action every time, couldn’t get anyone lined up, couldn’t get off of blocks, couldn’t penetrate and made tackles downfield not at, around, or behind the LOS.

    And you think we should have KEPT this guy?

    OK, maybe we shouldn’t have taken Ro if he’s the same basic player, but what were we supposed to do?

    Our MLB sucked, so he was replaced with the best MLB in the draft, from a Nick Saban defense who apparently eats, sleeps, and sh:ts football, and can get the D lined up properly with a high football IQ and tedious film study habits.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Dan Williams has 3 tackles in fairly limited playing time for the 31st ranked run defense.

    Granted only 3 games, but don’t see how at this point he would have improved anything.

  • CJ Legend 34

    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:45 am
    Miller or Jacoby.

    ————————

    Man I would love to see Jacoby move up and make a contribution. He was a talented player next to CJ Spiller on the field.

  • LA to TheBay

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:49 am
    DMAC Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:45 am
    Miller or Jacoby.

    ————————

    Man I would love to see Jacoby move up and make a contribution. He was a talented player next to CJ Spiller on the field.
    ——————————————-

    You will, JLH will let him take the job.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Norco Boob tells me Al Davis is tickled pink that the game is blacked out Sunday.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I will stick with the actual facts

    ***

    what facts?

    was Randy Moss the same player in Oakland as New England?

    how about Danny Clark or Derrick Burgess in Oakland versus anywhere else?

    for all we know Williams or Cody at DT could have us a Top 10 run defense. would Cody be injured in Cable’s “learning intensive” camp?

    you’re just throwing crap at the wall hoping these other McClain lovers will think it’s pudding and lap it up … you aint fooling me buddy

  • CJ Legend 34

    #418 LA To TheBay – “I APPROVE THAT MESSAGE!!!!!”

  • guest123

    I gotta go…

    Let’s not fight w/ea other. We’re all Raider fans. We all want the same thing, victory on Sunday. I’d love to be proven wrong. I hope JLH shuts me up. I’d be happy to own up and take the abuse.

    Just win baby.

  • mistic1

    What stats do you have to back up your opinionated rant?

    One of the best in the league over the last decade?

    With 4 of those seasons below 72% (2 of those were below 70%)and 6 combined seasons below 80%?

    Right now Janiskowski is 26th in the NFL in FG% at 61.5%

    He is 1 spot above Hartley, the kicker for the Saints who is now been put on notice by the organization’s hiring of another kicker.

    Janikowski is 11th in the NFL from 50+, and 19th from 40-49, and his miss from inside 40 yards puts him at #5 from 30-39 yards.

    He is not even in the top 5 until you get inside of 40 yards and he is one of the highest paid kickers in the NFL.

    Saying he is one of the best doesn’t make him so.
    =======================================================

    Not so fast. Janikowski’s stats are a bit skewed, so many long attempts, and so many attempts based on the fact that we havent scored many touchdowns over the last few seasons.

    Also its not just about kicking field goals, his value is also in kick offs.

    Elam 80%, carney 82% , stover 83%, g. andrson 80%, vinitieri, 82% m. anderson 79.% seabass, 78%.

    This is very good company, at least 5 of these guys maybe in canton one day.

    There arent many good kickers in the nfl, jano becuase of his long leg, and kick off play is one of the best.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Stats = “crap on the wall” if they don’t agree with Rockstar’s take.

    The FACTS are, our run D has improved from last year, while the Cardinals has got dramatically worse. They drafted a NT, we drafted a MLB.

    Call it what you will.

  • DMAC

    I’m not gay, but this is the only play I remember Kelly making.

    http://no4corners.com/life/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kelly-smh.jpg

  • LA to TheBay

    The best NTs were gone. For whatever reason, they didn’t like Cody and passed him up.

    They figured Seymour and a free agent (see Henderson, John) could handle run duties along with Matt and Houston.

  • CJ Legend 34

    Kurt was tapped out. He did make to many tackles behind the line of scrimage but it was tough to tell at times if it was because the front line tackles were not taking on any blockers.

    I give up trying to figure out this team it just ain”’t logical!

  • RaiderRockstar

    you think we should have KEPT this guy?

    OK, maybe we shouldn’t have taken Ro if he’s the same basic player, but what were we supposed to do?

    ***

    we could have taken a MLB later in the draft or free agency if Marshall didn’t think Kirk was good enough

    heck, Goethel was pretty solid before he got injured!

  • LA to TheBay

    guest123 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:52 am
    I gotta go…

    Let’s not fight w/ea other. We’re all Raider fans. We all want the same thing, victory on Sunday. I’d love to be proven wrong. I hope JLH shuts me up. I’d be happy to own up and take the abuse.

    Just win baby.

    Me too. I was mad as hell that Johnnie Lee didn’t make the Pro Bowl in 08 and I attribute his decline to Russell’s awful decision to throw him the ball with Weddle keyed in.

    My mom named her dog Johnnie Lee. I gotta root for the guy. But I’m disappointed with his PR abilities like 99% of the rest of the Raider Nation.

  • LA to TheBay

    we could have taken a MLB later in the draft or free agency if Marshall didn’t think Kirk was good enough

    heck, Goethel was pretty solid before he got injured!

    Fair.

    Honestly, I wanted a big fat fatty in the draft, keep Kirk and play Witherspoon with him.

    I think Kirk would have been ideal as a WLB in a 34 with Ro as Mike.

    That’s why I figured we were grabbing Cody after we got Ro, but we went for the pass-rushing DT instead (granted he was good v. the run in college and played on the #1 ranked rush D).

  • RaiderRockstar

    Stats = “crap on the wall” if they don’t agree with Rockstar’s take.

    ***

    you have stats for Williams & Cody playing in Oakland?

    No, so the point your trying to make is that Williams or Cody would have the exact same impact for a different team – which is an ignorant comment

    see Hayesworth (Titans vs Redskins)

  • aig-raiders

    G123

    Dmac still had good numbers after the Titans blew us out by half time. We will see this weekend brother.

  • PurpleDrank81

    I like Ro Mac and based on value I think it was the smart pick. There were no O-Linemen worth takin that early left on the board and Terrence Cody would have been a super reach especially how out of shape he gets. We could have picked up a decent LT in the 2nd round but I was very happy when we picked up Lamarr Houston. I mean the draft went pretty well and we picked up some good players.

  • mistic1

    for all we know Williams or Cody at DT could have us a Top 10 run defense. would Cody be injured in Cable’s “learning intensive” camp?
    ========================================================

    We dont play a base3-4 defense, we drafted for a 4-3 defense. We took maclaine becuase we knew he could make the switch

  • LA to TheBay

    We made wholesale changes at LB which I think is a good thing. Especially the SLB position which has been plaguing us for years.

    We will see once the seasons done.

  • aig-raiders

    Cody would never be in shape with us. If he can’t stay in shape with a Ray Lewis D, then he’ll balloon to 500 lbs with an Al Davis D. Bauce and I got heated exchanges over this and so far I have been proven correct.

    Dont know why people are whining about Romac. We are definitely not a #2 D but I’d like to think we are def up in the top 15 in the league. Romas has improved each game so far and you can’t deny that. The manchild will be a stud by midseason.

  • mistic1

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    I have never seen guy become so timid after one big hit.

    ***

    Mistic, that theory has been debunked 500 times since Feb

    pay attention, propagandist
    =========================================================

    Theory???? He was never the same after the charger game last year, and hasnt looked the part this year.

  • RaiderRockstar

    LA, be it the draft or free agency … I wanted both lines addressed during the offseason

    neither one was.

    I wasn’t the only guy in here begging for big hogs up front either!

    if you aren’t solid in the trenches, you’re not gonna be above .500

    the other teams that get by with pathetic lines have dynamic play callers and skill position guys

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    # mistic1 Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 10:52 am

    What stats do you have to back up your opinionated rant?

    One of the best in the league over the last decade?

    With 4 of those seasons below 72% (2 of those were below 70%)and 6 combined seasons below 80%?

    Right now Janiskowski is 26th in the NFL in FG% at 61.5%

    He is 1 spot above Hartley, the kicker for the Saints who is now been put on notice by the organization’s hiring of another kicker.

    Janikowski is 11th in the NFL from 50+, and 19th from 40-49, and his miss from inside 40 yards puts him at #5 from 30-39 yards.

    He is not even in the top 5 until you get inside of 40 yards and he is one of the highest paid kickers in the NFL.

    Saying he is one of the best doesn’t make him so.
    =======================================================

    Not so fast. Janikowski’s stats are a bit skewed, so many long attempts, and so many attempts based on the fact that we havent scored many touchdowns over the last few seasons.

    Also its not just about kicking field goals, his value is also in kick offs.

    Elam 80%, carney 82% , stover 83%, g. andrson 80%, vinitieri, 82% m. anderson 79.% seabass, 78%.

    This is very good company, at least 5 of these guys maybe in canton one day.

    There arent many good kickers in the nfl, jano becuase of his long leg, and kick off play is one of the best.
    …………

    Now your putting Kickers in the HOF?!?!?!?!?!

    How do you know they will make it?

    Not many good kickers in the NFL?

    According to FG%, there are 25 that are better than Janikowski!

  • LA to TheBay

    Cody would never be in shape with us. If he can’t stay in shape with a Ray Lewis D, then he’ll balloon to 500 lbs with an Al Davis D.
    ————————————————

    Damn, we coulda had a 1-6-4!! Lol

  • PurpleDrank81

    Terrence cody is yet to have a Tackle and Dan Williams has 3…..Lamarr houston has 6 with a sack and Ro Mac has 18…. Neither of those guy would have helped that much and both have bad discipline….. DO WE REALLY NEED BAD DISCIPLINE?

  • LA to TheBay

    According to FG%, there are 25 that are better than Janikowski!

    Isn’t Jano like 90% inside of 40 for his career? And has made more 50+ yarders than any active kicker?

    I gotta check the stats, but the guy is better than he’s played so far and I think he got his kick in the @%% last Sunday.

  • Just Fire Baby

    you have stats for Williams & Cody playing in Oakland?

    ********************************

    I do have stats for McClain playing in Oakland and they show that they have improved their run D ranking 20%.

    Any thoughts on that?

  • PurpleDrank81

    My main issue is that we didnt help our O-Line…The run defense hasnt been that bad except for 1 or 2 big runs which mostly are rookie mistakes and will be fixed through time

  • DMAC
  • LA to TheBay

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 30th, 2010 at 11:01 am
    LA, be it the draft or free agency … I wanted both lines addressed during the offseason

    You and I both and Cable too.

    He said the top O and D linemen were gone by the time they picked, so they knew MLB was a position of need, so they got the best one.

    Rather than go O Line Rd. 2, they got who Gruden called the sleeper of the draft and a guy I think will be very good.

    They addressed O Line in later rounds with a two projects with lots of upside.

    The guys they wanted were gone, can;t really blame them there.

    Now, free agency or trade? Different story.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I do have stats for McClain playing in Oakland and they show that they have improved their run D ranking 20%.

    ***

    #1 we’re only 3 games in

    #2 29th to 24th with the other additions made (Groves, Wimbley, Houston, Henderson, etc) = good enough for a Top 10 overall pick ???