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		<title>By: djohnnyg</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/09/29/kelly-shrugs-off-defensive-ranking/comment-page-5/#comment-405165</link>
		<dc:creator>djohnnyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8RaiderReign8 Says: 
September 29th, 2010 at 4:21 pm 
Richochet Says:
September 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
You don’t get it GM, because simple things escape you…YOU DON’T JUST CUT A PLAYER BECAUSE OF A BAD OUTING..fool.

Receivers drop game winning TD’s…RB’s fumble away the game winning red zone possession…kickers miss..etc.

You’re an idiot for suggesting a player gets cut that ‘cost you the game”

ALL THE FAILED EXECUTIONS COST THE GAME, WHICH HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE GAME…only a full blown idiot would state ‘oh..no…ONLY THE LAST PLAY COUNTS.”
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Noooooo. It’s ALL about Wins and Losses. If the last play is the difference between winnin and losing than it most definitely counts. Call a spade a spade.
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Arizona had plenty of chances too, and made a lot of mistakes.  Mistakes, missed opportunities, etc. happen in EVERY NFL game.

It came down to the highest paid kicker in the league making a chip shot to make us 2-1. He failed. Yes, it does happen, but so do 5-11 seasons because of a team being demoralized because of choking away a chance to steal a win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8RaiderReign8 Says:<br />
September 29th, 2010 at 4:21 pm<br />
Richochet Says:<br />
September 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm<br />
You don’t get it GM, because simple things escape you…YOU DON’T JUST CUT A PLAYER BECAUSE OF A BAD OUTING..fool.</p>
<p>Receivers drop game winning TD’s…RB’s fumble away the game winning red zone possession…kickers miss..etc.</p>
<p>You’re an idiot for suggesting a player gets cut that ‘cost you the game”</p>
<p>ALL THE FAILED EXECUTIONS COST THE GAME, WHICH HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE GAME…only a full blown idiot would state ‘oh..no…ONLY THE LAST PLAY COUNTS.”<br />
————</p>
<p>Noooooo. It’s ALL about Wins and Losses. If the last play is the difference between winnin and losing than it most definitely counts. Call a spade a spade.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Arizona had plenty of chances too, and made a lot of mistakes.  Mistakes, missed opportunities, etc. happen in EVERY NFL game.</p>
<p>It came down to the highest paid kicker in the league making a chip shot to make us 2-1. He failed. Yes, it does happen, but so do 5-11 seasons because of a team being demoralized because of choking away a chance to steal a win.</p>
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		<title>By: 8RaiderReign8</title>
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		<dc:creator>8RaiderReign8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richochet Says: 
September 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
You don’t get it GM, because simple things escape you…YOU DON’T JUST CUT A PLAYER BECAUSE OF A BAD OUTING..fool.

Receivers drop game winning TD’s…RB’s fumble away the game winning red zone possession…kickers miss..etc.

You’re an idiot for suggesting a player gets cut that ‘cost you the game”

ALL THE FAILED EXECUTIONS COST THE GAME, WHICH HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE GAME…only a full blown idiot would state ‘oh..no…ONLY THE LAST PLAY COUNTS.”
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Noooooo. It&#039;s ALL about Wins and Losses. If the last play is the difference between winnin and losing than it most definitely counts. Call a spade a spade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richochet Says:<br />
September 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm<br />
You don’t get it GM, because simple things escape you…YOU DON’T JUST CUT A PLAYER BECAUSE OF A BAD OUTING..fool.</p>
<p>Receivers drop game winning TD’s…RB’s fumble away the game winning red zone possession…kickers miss..etc.</p>
<p>You’re an idiot for suggesting a player gets cut that ‘cost you the game”</p>
<p>ALL THE FAILED EXECUTIONS COST THE GAME, WHICH HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE GAME…only a full blown idiot would state ‘oh..no…ONLY THE LAST PLAY COUNTS.”<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Noooooo. It&#8217;s ALL about Wins and Losses. If the last play is the difference between winnin and losing than it most definitely counts. Call a spade a spade.</p>
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		<title>By: PurpleDrank81</title>
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		<dc:creator>PurpleDrank81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every1 on the Teams has to play better...Not just Bruce...There&#039;s no1 on the team who is perfect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every1 on the Teams has to play better&#8230;Not just Bruce&#8230;There&#8217;s no1 on the team who is perfect</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just on Veldheer, I&#039;ve never said he should be LT. Nor Center. I&#039;m high on him, but at RT or RT/RG. Satele is still not a good enough Center.

For now, given current roster, an OL line-up like...
Bruce-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Veldheer

Is what I&#039;d do.
With backups of..
Barnes-Loper-??-Carlisle-Henderson

If we did that you&#039;d see a marked improvement. There&#039;ll be some growing pains for that line-up, but with an OL, it&#039;s like a rock band....you have to get the right personnel mix, in the right spots, the right chemistry etc.

Cable is at fault, in my armchair GM opinion, because he&#039;s constantly chopping and changing it, but not putting the right guys in the right spots. Bruce&#039;s talent/physique/skill-set is clearly LT. Veldheers is clearly RT or RT/RG. Henderson is RT. Walker RG. Gallery RT/OG. Satele is a good back-up Center. Carlisle is not talented. Pears is a good FA signing when injuries occur.

We need to still draft a starting Center, or trade for a legitimately good one now, need to sign/draft another LT, and we have enough OG/RT depth our OL play would drastically improve.

I hold firm to the Bruce LT and Veldheer RT/RG theory. If Im to be criticized at all, that&#039;s what it&#039;d be based on if we ever got to see Cable putting that OL in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just on Veldheer, I&#8217;ve never said he should be LT. Nor Center. I&#8217;m high on him, but at RT or RT/RG. Satele is still not a good enough Center.</p>
<p>For now, given current roster, an OL line-up like&#8230;<br />
Bruce-Gallery-Satele-Walker-Veldheer</p>
<p>Is what I&#8217;d do.<br />
With backups of..<br />
Barnes-Loper-??-Carlisle-Henderson</p>
<p>If we did that you&#8217;d see a marked improvement. There&#8217;ll be some growing pains for that line-up, but with an OL, it&#8217;s like a rock band&#8230;.you have to get the right personnel mix, in the right spots, the right chemistry etc.</p>
<p>Cable is at fault, in my armchair GM opinion, because he&#8217;s constantly chopping and changing it, but not putting the right guys in the right spots. Bruce&#8217;s talent/physique/skill-set is clearly LT. Veldheers is clearly RT or RT/RG. Henderson is RT. Walker RG. Gallery RT/OG. Satele is a good back-up Center. Carlisle is not talented. Pears is a good FA signing when injuries occur.</p>
<p>We need to still draft a starting Center, or trade for a legitimately good one now, need to sign/draft another LT, and we have enough OG/RT depth our OL play would drastically improve.</p>
<p>I hold firm to the Bruce LT and Veldheer RT/RG theory. If Im to be criticized at all, that&#8217;s what it&#8217;d be based on if we ever got to see Cable putting that OL in.</p>
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		<title>By: Senior Beeecham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senior Beeecham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ, simmer down, you old fool!

You can throw a temper tantrum in front of 7-11 when your styrofoam coffee cup breaks and you lose all your nickles, but you can&#039;t wig out on a football blog.

And please, wackyjob, stop begging the blog nerds for respect.  The only way to get some is when you clean our windshields better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ, simmer down, you old fool!</p>
<p>You can throw a temper tantrum in front of 7-11 when your styrofoam coffee cup breaks and you lose all your nickles, but you can&#8217;t wig out on a football blog.</p>
<p>And please, wackyjob, stop begging the blog nerds for respect.  The only way to get some is when you clean our windshields better.</p>
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		<title>By: priesttj</title>
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		<dc:creator>priesttj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ArmChair as they say game recognizes game, I have tremendous for people who I know know the game. I&#039;m not jocking Campbell I&#039;m saying I want a competent QB under C ..........period  So far Grads IMO is tettering on sitting back down. He has to play better..........period</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ArmChair as they say game recognizes game, I have tremendous for people who I know know the game. I&#8217;m not jocking Campbell I&#8217;m saying I want a competent QB under C &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.period  So far Grads IMO is tettering on sitting back down. He has to play better&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.period</p>
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		<title>By: PurpleDrank81</title>
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		<dc:creator>PurpleDrank81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.I.P Greg Giraldo</description>
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		<title>By: ArmChair GM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArmChair GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  priesttj Says:
September 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

I’;ll tell you what, why don’t all you Veldheer worshiper come in here and admit I was right about him? Where are all of you now??

Everyone in here just about laughed and said he would be better for us, well I can’t find one person now who’s ready to back him up.

But you can all be very criticalof me. when I’m wrong. Because you rarely get the chance.
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Priest-

I&#039;m a stand up dude. I was all for Veldheer over Satele and obviously he wasn&#039;t ready for that kind of pressure. So you were right about that.

Granted, he had one game, sorta like Campbell did, yet some of you guys in here feel like Campbell should have been given half a season to fail at a position he&#039;s played for years, but yet Veldheer had one game and is already a bust at center.

It&#039;s that kinda a double standard that I&#039;m talkin about.

Guys come in here and make excuses for their favorite players like they&#039;re getting a commission over certain guys playing or not.

Call it even across the board, call for legitimate competition at every position, and let the best men stay on the field. Bottom line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  priesttj Says:<br />
September 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm</p>
<p>I’;ll tell you what, why don’t all you Veldheer worshiper come in here and admit I was right about him? Where are all of you now??</p>
<p>Everyone in here just about laughed and said he would be better for us, well I can’t find one person now who’s ready to back him up.</p>
<p>But you can all be very criticalof me. when I’m wrong. Because you rarely get the chance.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Priest-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a stand up dude. I was all for Veldheer over Satele and obviously he wasn&#8217;t ready for that kind of pressure. So you were right about that.</p>
<p>Granted, he had one game, sorta like Campbell did, yet some of you guys in here feel like Campbell should have been given half a season to fail at a position he&#8217;s played for years, but yet Veldheer had one game and is already a bust at center.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that kinda a double standard that I&#8217;m talkin about.</p>
<p>Guys come in here and make excuses for their favorite players like they&#8217;re getting a commission over certain guys playing or not.</p>
<p>Call it even across the board, call for legitimate competition at every position, and let the best men stay on the field. Bottom line!</p>
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		<title>By: priesttj</title>
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		<dc:creator>priesttj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right BOY! show some respect when you come at me. That way you&#039;ll get respect.  Get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right BOY! show some respect when you come at me. That way you&#8217;ll get respect.  Get it?</p>
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		<title>By: raiderlaker1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>raiderlaker1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well my workday is over, I&#039;ll chime in again tmo, thanks for (never) substantially answering my question, it&#039;s been fun... most importantly, go raiders...let&#039;s continue our home win streak and get back in this 1st quarter afc west race</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well my workday is over, I&#8217;ll chime in again tmo, thanks for (never) substantially answering my question, it&#8217;s been fun&#8230; most importantly, go raiders&#8230;let&#8217;s continue our home win streak and get back in this 1st quarter afc west race</p>
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