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Stats make Kubiak wary of Raiders

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 29th, 2010 at 8:24 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Houston Texans are finding it slow going in their bid to go from mediocrity to a legitimate playoff contender.

The Raiders are facing a similar process simply trying to ascend from the depths to somewhere approaching mediocrity.

Just when Houston appeared to have a breakthrough with season-opening wins against Indianapolis and Washington, the latter in a comeback mode, the Texans were returned to earth by their in-state rivals, the struggling Dallas Cowboys.

Oakland put itself in position for a 2-1 record in Week 3 against Arizona but didn’t deliver, arming skeptics everywhere with evidence the Raiders will never amount to anything.

Gary Kubiak, talking by conference call with Bay Area reporters bright and early this morning, was talking about the step he’d like his team to take.

“It’s a big, big corner to turn,’ Kubiak said. “You don’t turn it in one game, one play, one week. I think you turn it over a period of time. Our focus right now is on the Oakland Raiders and being as good as you can be this week.”

Warren Sapp used to insist “stats are for losers,” his argument being they could be twisted like taffy to say illustrate just about any point.

Kubiak latched on to stats Wednesday morning to paint the Raiders as a one of the NFL’s top teams.

“I think there’s two teams in this league that are in the top 10 offensively and defensively and they’re one of them,” Kubiak said. “That tells you how balanced they are and how well they’re playing.”

Indeed, the Raiders are 10th in offense at 351.3 yards per game, which doesn’t explain a 3-for-13 performance in the red zone. And they’re No. 3 in defense, right behind Baltimore and Green Bay, which may be more a factor of the St. Louis and Arizona offenses than anything else and doesn’t account for allowing the Cardinals to pass for two scores in the red zone with relative ease.

Note: Raiders are actually tied with second for Green Bay.
Kubiak is undeterred, even elevating the Raiders’ defense a spot to No. 2, deflecting a question about Nnamdi Asomugha and the possibility of shadowing Andre Johnson to pile more superlatives on his opponent.

“I never get caught up in that,” Kubiak said. “We’ve got to go and play their defense. We’ve got to do a good job. I mean, they’re second in defense in the NFL, that tells you how good they are, how talented they are across the board. He’s a great, great player, but it’s going to take 11 of us to play well and not just one if we’ve got any chance of winning.”

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  1. RedneckRaider Says:

    first?

  2. alwehsh Says:

    first!

  3. Raider O Says:

    1st!!

  4. RedneckRaider Says:

    First time doing that. Yay. Morning nation.

  5. Raider O Says:

    damn!
    I stick it to you!

  6. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 8:23 am
    do the Jags have guys in the secondary named Asomugha or Huff?

    That’s like saying do the Jags have guys on offense like Jerry Rice and Hank Baskett?

    ***

    LOL! fair enough

  7. alwehsh Says:

    i hate to say it but houston is gonna bang us! we r gona have to put up atleast 3 tds to be in the game, fgs wont cut it in this one (not that we can convert fgs anyways).
    its a tough matchup for us but hey thats why they play the games lets see what happens. the key will be the run defense holding foster, cuz we know houston will be able to throw at will.

  8. bcz24 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 8:22 am
    BCZ: if you wanted to be perverted, take it elsewhere. alright?

    this place is family friendly

    and who are you to say what JFB have been debating since BEFORE the draft?

    you stuck your nose in where it didn’t belong and you got thumped. don’t act surprised about it
    ….

    I have been in here since BEFORE the draft watching the debate happen.

    If my nose didnt belong, dont debate it on a public forum.

    How did you thump me? By saying things like NEXT like you proved something? Woohooo you really got me there!

    Come at me with some tangible evidence the Kirk is SOOOOO much better than McClain (you and the rest of the jaguar fan base are the only ones who think so) and I will shut up and leave this blog forever.

    The Jaquars have faced some pretty weak competition at running back. Definitely NOT the top two backs in football last year. Your stats dont hold water.

  9. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “I think there’s two teams in this league that are in the top 10 offensively and defensively and they’re one of them,” Kubiak said. “That tells you how balanced they are and how well they’re playing.”

    “it’s going to take 11 of us to play well and not just one if we’ve got any chance of winning.”

    ***

    is Gary Kubiak trying to set up his next Head Coaching job or something?

  10. fat kidd Says:

    1st

  11. Raider O Says:

    Top 12 Defense!!
    I said that! Call me Ostradamus.

  12. fat kidd Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 8:32 am
    eagles go with mike vick trade kevin kolb to the raiders for bruce gradkowski,goes back to j. campbell as starter cuts charlie frye .drafts andrew luck next year goes with campbell kolb and andrew luck.

  13. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When it is all said and done, I still believe the Raiders will have a higher ranked run D than the Jaquars.

    And we will definately improve upon the ranking last year of 29th.

  14. Raider O Says:

    We need to draft OL next year. Maybe add a DT too.
    Print that!

  15. guest123 Says:

    Top 12 Defense!!
    I said that! Call me Ostradamus

    ******************
    ostradumass?

  16. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Come at me with some tangible evidence the Kirk is SOOOOO much better than McClain (you and the rest of the jaguar fan base are the only ones who think so)

    Your stats dont hold water.

    ***

    #1 a statement like McClain = Morrison 2.0 suggests that we paid a boatload of money for the SAME player (never said Kirk was better!) did post that JAX has a better run def at the moment because JFB and I have this little bet going about who will finish with a better Run D this season. right now i’m right and he’s wrong. thats why he keeps throwing in the pass d to make it look better. LOL. not sure how you got involved in this

    #2 i’m not a Jags fan. never have been, never will be

    #3 they aren’t MY stats, I lifted them from NFL.com (if you question whether or not they are valid, shoot them an e-mail or something)

  17. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jaquars and Raiders same ypc on rushing attempts, Raiders just giving up more attempts right now.

    And yes total defense has to count for something as well. Especially when you are talking about one defense being ranked #3 the other #29.

  18. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we will definately improve upon the ranking last year of 29th.

    ***

    of course

    we replaced Alston, Howard, Ellis & Warren with Groves, Wimbley, Houston & Henderson!

    much better supporting cast for an MLB, don’t you think?

  19. bcz24 Says:

    Oh damn I got thumped again…

  20. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The game announcers seemed pretty impressed with McClain.

    They were talking him up and the play-by-play called him “the most dynamic young LB the league has seen in years.”

    Never heard anyone heap that type of praise on Kirk Morrison.

  21. guest123 Says:

    It’s a team sport. There is no one player that can make a defense #3 as opposed to #29.

  22. bcz24 Says:

    And since we all like to play the little what if game… if we had not given up that 1 74 yard run to CJ we would be the #14th ranked run D in football.

  23. Just Fire Baby Says:

    we replaced Alston, Howard, Ellis & Warren with Groves, Wimbley, Houston & Henderson!

    ***********************************

    Alston rarely played and Gerard Warren is playing his azz off in New England.

    Henderson will not play more than 12 games this year, and the jury is still out on Groves at LB (missed an easy tackle that led to Beanie’s 20 yard carry).

    But yes, MLB is much improved!!!

  24. guest123 Says:

    The play by play announcers would give Morrison lots of love on Sunday. “Another tackle by Kirk Morrison, gain of 7, first down!”. He got his name called a lot.

  25. Raider O Says:

    LOL @ 15.

  26. guest123 Says:

    Anyone want to talk about our gaping hole at LT? both Mario and Velheer are turnstiles, and Mario Williams is gonna kill Grads off the edge unless we hold him or something.

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JFB: If you recall, we have 3 different starters at SLB last year

    Ricky Brown, Jon Alston (before getting injured) & Thomas Howard.

    Thomas Howard (before getting benched) and Trevor Scott at WLB

    Groves, Wimbley, Houston & Henderson = BIG improvement

  28. fat kidd Says:

    if the raiders lose this week and are 1-3 cable might not get fired but his clock starts ticking.

  29. Just Win Baby Says:

    I’m starting Kevin Walter of the Texans on my fantasy team this week. If Nnamdi is going to be on Andre Johnson all game, Walter is going to be the guy. He will burn us for more than one long one. Watch and see.

  30. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m starting Kevin Walter of the Texans on my fantasy team this week. If Nnamdi is going to be on Andre Johnson all game, Walter is going to be the guy. He will burn us for more than one long one. Watch and see.

    ***

    me too (in another league)

  31. Raider O Says:

    McClain > Kirk.
    Go Aztecs!!

  32. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    But yes, MLB is much improved!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Lucid.

  33. bcz24 Says:

    Wow… Ravens cut Trevor Pryce. Hes pretty good isnt he?

  34. fat kidd Says:

    andre johnson is playing with a high ankle sprain tom cable could cover him.

  35. guest123 Says:

    I’m starting Kevin Walter of the Texans on my fantasy team this week. If Nnamdi is going to be on Andre Johnson all game, Walter is going to be the guy. He will burn us for more than one long one. Watch and see.

    ***************

    Me too in my league. I also have DHB, Lance Moore or Rice/McGahee (which I don’t think so with the Steelers D)

    Walter is my penciled in flex.

  36. Raider O Says:

    Fire Cable!!
    Let Campbell compete at LT!
    Play Veldheer at RT!
    Play Walker at RG!!
    Draft a C, G, and OT next year!

  37. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Our defense is not in the same league as Green Bay and Baltimore, no matter what the stats say. We are dominant in stints against lesser opponents, but teams with premier RB’s or QB’s will tear us apart during the course of the season. Arian Foster will have his way with us, as I fully expect Seymour to get the bulk of the snaps.

  38. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rice/McGahee (which I don’t think so with the Steelers D)

    ***

    G123,

    last time McGahee played the Steelers he had 2 TD’s and he might start this week

  39. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable loves Seabass like Fat Kidd loves cake!

  40. guest123 Says:

    G123,

    last time McGahee played the Steelers he had 2 TD’s and he might start this week

    ***********

    hmmm. thanks for the knowledge.

  41. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I got thumped again

    ***

    actually, this time you got tore up like a twinkie on Rosie O’Donnell’s nightstand

  42. guest123 Says:

    I think I’ll end up benching Walter. I just cant root for him going against the Raiders.

  43. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wow… Ravens cut Trevor Pryce. Hes pretty good isnt he?

    ***

    the last GOOD season Trevor Pryce had was the year Oakland went to the Super Bowl.

    in other words, it’s been a while!

  44. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think I’ll end up benching Walter. I just cant root for him going against the Raiders.

    ***

    I said the same thing last week about Steve Breaston and it cost me a game against Marley (now 3-0)

  45. LA to TheBay Says:

    Don’t make much of Kubiak’s comments.

    Opposing coaches ALWAYS talk up the other team, even in victory, but especially in the mid-week conference call.

    The Raiders are a good defense until they’re not (see 2006 3rd overall defense, meaningless stats).

    The Raiders are a 2nd tier offense or worse until they’re not (cashing in on the many red zone attempts we’ve had).

    The good news, for you moral victory-haters, is that it can be easily cleaned up with effective coaching.

    The bad news is we don’t have effective coaching.

  46. bcz24 Says:

    Hmmm He had 6.5 sacks off the bench in Baltimore last year. Thats not bad. Seems he is over the hill though. 34-35 for a Dlineman is pretty old

  47. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LA to TheBay: doesn’t hating on Michael Huff make you a terrorist?

    starting Hiram Eugene, Tyvon Branch or Mike Mitchell instead would be a menace to victory, as BSJ puts it …

  48. LA to TheBay Says:

    This team will have to WILL itself to victory everyweek, because the whole Xs and Os thing is not our thing.

  49. RaiderRockstar Says:

    He had 6.5 sacks off the bench in Baltimore last year. Thats not bad. Seems he is over the hill though. 34-35 for a Dlineman is pretty old

    ***

    Greg Ellis had 8 sacks last year, didn’t he?

    then the Raiders released him and now he can’t find work

  50. Raider O Says:

    Tom Cable is an idiot!!! When asked if we will keep S Brown, he said “I hope so!” ?!?!?

    Fire The Fat Monkey!!
    Hire Harbaugh or Gruden!!

  51. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the whole Xs and Os thing is not our thing.

    ***

    giving up on Hue Jax 3 weeks into the season?

  52. LA to TheBay Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:09 am
    LA to TheBay: doesn’t hating on Michael Huff make you a terrorist?

    Lol, no honestly I like to give you a hard time.

    Huff in my mind should be playing nickel because of his coverage skills. He was pretty effective at shutting down top TEs early in his career.

    He’s not a good tackler in open space and playing CF, he sees lots of open space.

    I like Huff and I tell my buddies that he could be real effective if used properly, which I think he is not.

    I told em the same about McFadden and still tell em the same about DHB.

  53. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hue Jackson is no better than Gregg Knapp.

  54. bcz24 Says:

    giving up on Hue Jax 3 weeks into the season?
    **********
    No way we could do that! Raiders fans would NEVER give up on a guy before he had a fair shake…

  55. LA to TheBay Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
    the whole Xs and Os thing is not our thing.

    ***

    giving up on Hue Jax 3 weeks into the season?
    ———————————–

    No, it takes me a while to give up on somebody. Jason Campbell doesn’t count as I suspected he’d suck before ever having played a down.

    I like the energy and accountability he brings to the team. I can’t recall at any time in the last 7 years when we were in the top 10 in total offense.

    Like I said, honestly this is not the end of the world. Monday in here it was like the apocalypse. Just a few things to be cleaned up.

    We’re getting to the border of the promised land. There’s a fence there that we need to crash through.

    I think Hue can do it, but is hamstrung by the requirement to put the ball in DHB’s hands.

  56. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    All Cable can cover is a donut with extra chocolate.

  57. RaiderRockstar Says:

    He’s not a good tackler in open space and playing CF, he sees lots of open space.

    ***

    did you watch the Rams game?

    Huff was playing at less than 100 percent and he made several open field 1-on-1 tackles on Steven Jackson that week. I mean he dropped him like a sack of taters

    that proved to me he can still tackle folks. plus I liked that tweet from Jerry Mac during camp that Rock Cartwright caught a screen pass and was heading for the sideline (out of bounds) but Huff leveled him anyways. LOL – my boy Mikey aint afraid of contact

  58. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Hue did a good job of helping TJ and Chad develop in Cicny back in the day so I expect good things from DHB and Murphy. Both seem like they are smart enough to listen and the have the desire to get better.

  59. LA to TheBay Says:

    We need to find a way to get Zach the ball more. He was eating Wilson’s lunch in the first half last week.

    Having McFadden as a passing threat would open it up more for Zach, I think.

  60. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders fans would NEVER give up on a guy before he had a fair shake…

    ***

    DHB, Scott, Veldheer, JLH, Mitch, DMAC, JCamp?

  61. LA to TheBay Says:

    RRS, I just don’t see the consistency from Huff that I’d like in the tackling dep’t.

    He played very well last year.

  62. Raider O Says:

    -We have a good defense!
    -We can run the ball!
    -Murphy and DHB are playing better, and Chaz will majerhis group better when he is healthy!
    -We have a great TE!

    -We need to improve our JC, Fix the OL, and hire a better HC!

    I like Bruce, but the dude will always avg less than 60% cmp! We neem more from our QB. We can help JC improve, or we need to add another QB in a year or two. I don’t think bruce will improve his accuracy.

  63. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RR you always stayed by your man Puff and Huff, I will give you that. You were the one that gave him his props for always playing the best TE in the box and shuting him down back in the day. Never even looked at that stat until you brought up.

  64. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think Houston is all that good.

    They are like the Dan Marino Dolphins. Lots of points, can beat and lose to anyone, greater chance of going 8-8 than past the first round of the playoffs.

  65. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Mark my word when it is all said and done Campbell will be our QB. Now I don’t know about that of the future stuff.

  66. LA to TheBay Says:

    Huff had 3 picks right out the gate last season and I thought his coverage skills at the CF spot had really improved.

    His angles had to be better playing in open space, rather than shadowing TEs, and I think he did OK.

    I’d like to see them shuffle the safety spots a bit, cause Branch is getting destroyed out there.

  67. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    We improved with Hue! Last year our avg was 13 and this year it’s 18 pts/ game!
    Go Raiders!!!!

  68. Just Fire Baby Says:

    O,

    We improved at QB, and DHB can occasionally catch one now.

    Not sure if Hue has helped or hurt this offense, IMO.

    If anything, his passion and fire has helped raise the energy levels, but his play-calling and game management has been horrendous.

  69. inonewordraider Says:

    I would not bet against the Raiders Sunday. We are a much better team this year than last were just making alot of correctable mistakes, are you guys watching the same games?

  70. Raider O Says:

    Branch and Huff are out best Ss!!
    Branch is a Solid SS playing his 2nd season as a starter, didn’t play his rookie season due to injury, had a PB vote last year, he can cover, and he is our best S IMO!
    Take that Huff lovers!!

  71. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wonder how long the MM34 experiment will last?

    He has not done much, Cable doesn’t speak real highly of him, and Stevie Brown is already just as good if not better on ST.

  72. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wonder how long the MM34 experiment will last?

    ***

    at least until his contract is up

  73. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch and Huff are out best Ss!!

    Take that Huff lovers!!

    ***

    alright :P

  74. guest123 Says:

    Being better than last year is not a morale victory. They don’t grade on a curve. 1-2 is failing. Don’t care bout excuses anymore.

    Guys have to pull their heads outta their behinds and do the little things right. If we lose and the other team was just better/more talented, I can live with that. But I’m tired of us giving away a well played win on a platter.

  75. guest123 Says:

    MM34 is a liability. If we cut him, he ends up in the UFL.

  76. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ Legend 34 – i’ve been a Huff fan since we drafted him (even though I wanted Leinart on draft day)

    thank goodness Art Shell had Al’s ear that morning!

  77. LA to TheBay Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:26 am
    I would not bet against the Raiders Sunday. We are a much better team this year than last were just making alot of correctable mistakes, are you guys watching the same games?
    ——————–
    agree completely.

    Branch is a Solid SS playing his 2nd season as a starter, didn’t play his rookie season due to injury, had a PB vote last year, he can cover, and he is our best S IMO!
    ————————

    I think Branch has lots of potential, but they need to scheme better. He’s being left alone on an island too much with WRs and that’s not his skill set.

    I was sold on Branch week 1 last year when he hammered Brandon Monstermaleuna.

  78. Raider O Says:

    Vegas,

    I think he helped, but he is not a great play caller. IMO We need a better HC who helps with the play calling on Offense, Defense, and STs.
    Our play calling is avg at best. I think it’s below avg.
    IMO:
    -DMC can be more involved in the passing game (like M Forte)
    -have a good mix of runs and passes in the same drive, which hue doesn’t do, and that’s why we can’t score in TDs!
    -get our WRs involved early on short passes.

  79. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Huff is the man! He is not a great tackler, but he improved a lot.
    He is our best FS!

    Go Huff!!!

  80. RaiderRockstar Says:

    riddle me this.

    if the Raider had taken OL with our first 2 picks instead of McClain & Houston like SF did, what would this team look like right now?

    MLB probably would have been addressed in the 3rd round

    imagine a pair of highly regarded rookie tackles instead of Henderson & Walker (and a few projects from Hillsdale & Maryland)

    would it make a difference in the win column?

    Dakota and many others were chanting for OL help on draft day (and rightfully so) but it didn’t happen early enough imo

  81. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Who was available at #8 to draft?

    Anthony Davis or Brian Bualaga? I always go with value, we clearly got the best MLB, and I will would rather have that than the 3rd or 4th best tackle.

    Two of our first 4 picks went to O-line, and 3 of our 4 four went to the trenches.

    You people!!!!

  82. Raider O Says:

    LA,

    I liked that pick with cast on his arm, but that tackle was great too.

  83. guest123 Says:

    I like our offensive play calling. I had to hand to Hue to call that run play before the half with no timeouts and time running out. It looked like an obvious pass play. McFadden punched it in.

    We have good play calling. We just need a new timeout coordinator. The one we have sucks at that. The new applcant also needs to know when to throw the red flag.

    So yeah we do need to improve.

  84. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Since you all are taking about safetys. Why in the Card game did it seem like the Raiders were playing all thier safetys? Com’on man pick the best two and let them play. It seems the same thing is going on with the Oline. What the hell was the preseason for? To win some meaningless games to show the world that the Silver and Black are Back?

  85. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RD1 – Davis, Iupati, Pouncey (pick one)

    RD2 – Beadles, Ducasse, Brown (pick one)

    RD3 – Butler, Bowman, Curran, Sharpton, Riley (pick one)

    would the O-Line still be awful?

    would the run defense be any better (or worse) than 24th right now?

  86. Chris in NY Says:

    Huff is a good safety. People who rag on him are still stuck on the mediocre Huff of 3 or 4 years ago. Last year and this year he’s been very solid.

  87. guest123 Says:

    We were going to pay $20 million regardless of the pick at #8. Why not pick the guy with the most value? If you are drafting in tiers, the tier one OT’s were both gone before the Raiders pick, so take a position of need and develop it. I like the upside of McClain over the predictability of Capn kirk.

  88. bcz24 Says:

    DHB, Scott, Veldheer, JLH, Mitch, DMAC, JCamp?
    ****
    ROMAC…

  89. guest123 Says:

    Look at the wonders Davis and Iupati are doing for the 49ers right now?

  90. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We just need a new timeout coordinator. The one we have sucks at that

    ***

    G123 = Bruce hater?

    he’s the one who caused a delay of game penalty from the 1 yard line…

  91. guest123 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
    We just need a new timeout coordinator. The one we have sucks at that

    ***

    G123 = Bruce hater?

    he’s the one who caused a delay of game penalty from the 1 yard line…
    ************************

    You don’t think it had anything to do with our linemen not being lined up right?

    our line looks like a JV team

  92. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Look at the wonders Davis and Iupati are doing for the 49ers right now?

    ***

    I think the 49ers offense stinks more because of Alex Smith & Mike Craptree

    Well, and I guess thier OC just got fired too … so apparently he wasn’t getting it done either

  93. RNOraiderFan Says:

    if the Raider had taken OL with our first 2 picks instead of McClain & Houston like SF did, what would this team look like right now?

    MLB probably would have been addressed in the 3rd round

    imagine a pair of highly regarded rookie tackles instead of Henderson & Walker (and a few projects from Hillsdale & Maryland)

    would it make a difference in the win column?

    Dakota and many others were chanting for OL help on draft day (and rightfully so) but it didn’t happen early enough imo
    *******************************************************
    Don’t know if any of you remember, but I wanted Washington at MLB in the draft al along. RR is right about McClain being Morrison #2, until last week. I watched McClain 30% of the snaps last week and he is starting to put his nose where it don’t belong(the offence’s back field) The kid was actually disruptive last week, something Kirk never was. I’m still with RR with saying it was a wasted pick. We could of just called more MLB blitzes last week, I won’t know til the season is over who is the better MLB.

  94. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RD2 – Beadles, Ducasse, Brown (pick one)

    RD3 – Butler, Bowman, Curran, Sharpton, Riley (pick one)

    **********************************

    Who????

    Ducasse has never played a down yet, and none of those LB’s have made any type of impact.

    I think we did what we could, and the only second guess I would make was about Pouncey. He also was the highest rated player at his position.

    When picking in the top 10, I don’t care what position it is, you can’t end up without the top 1-2 prospects at that position.

  95. RaiderRockstar Says:

    our line looks like a JV team

    ***

    you won’t get any debate from me about that topic!

    why do you think I asked the draft question ???

  96. Raider O Says:

    You People,

    McClain and Houston were great picks, we needed to improve our DL, OL, and LBs. We drafted The best MLB in that draft (also considered one of the best MLB prospects to come out of college), drafted the best available DL in the 2nd RD, and drafted two of the top 10 OT prospects in the 3rd and 4th RDs.

    It was a great Draft!! Get over it!!!

  97. The Big Banana Says:

    Hey Kubiak – don’t worry. Our Raiders do a real good job of p1ssing away victories.

  98. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bruce absolutely should have called the timeout. That’s on him for not calling it.

    But he wasn’t the CAUSE of it. If he calls the timeout, he just bails out whoever it is calling the plays and formations. I’m sure if ANY PLAY

    What type of OC gets confused on second and goal from the one, in a close game? He was sending guys on the field with 10 seconds on the playclock.

  99. guest123 Says:

    When we look back on this draft, we’ll talk about how we got Lamar Houston in the second. That man is going to be a future probowler beast. RoMac will be a capable add at the very least.

  100. Raider O Says:

    B Campbell was a great pick in the 4th RD. Other than Arman Shields, our 4th RD picks have been solid. I liked D Bing in the 4th, but he couldn’t stay healthy.

  101. Just Fire Baby Says:

    *I’m sure if ANY PLAY would have been sent in a reasonable amount of time, there would have been no delay.

    Still, the QB has to be more aware. He tried to rush it, and in all honesty it seemed like he might have gotten it off in time, but the whole thing was a mess and someone (QB, timeout coordinator, offensive playcaller) should have called a TO with around 10-11 seconds on the playclock, and not at the very end.

  102. guest123 Says:

    *I’m sure if ANY PLAY would have been sent in a reasonable amount of time, there would have been no delay.

    Still, the QB has to be more aware. He tried to rush it, and in all honesty it seemed like he might have gotten it off in time, but the whole thing was a mess and someone (QB, timeout coordinator, offensive playcaller) should have called a TO with around 10-11 seconds on the playclock, and not at the very end.

    **********************
    Cable could have called the TO on the sideline. Why didn’t he?

  103. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Raider O, McClain and Houston were great picks. You are correct. I just think we had a MLB with the same skill set. Would of liked to see a OT with that first pick or even a trade down because of all our needs and not having a #1 this year. Houston was a soild pick. I also like the late round DBs to groom to be starters later. I like McClain a lot. I just don’t think he is much better then Kirk. He is better, just not that much where its going to make a diffrence on our D.

  104. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I just asked the O-Line question and everybody seems to be focusing on McClain & Houston…

    that last post wasn’t Hater-Aid, I’m asking a serious question about how different this team would look with better OL than Veldheer & Campbell!

    or perhaps Veldheer at LT & Campbell at RT from Day 1 at camp and OTA’s would be more mature and ready to handle the starting jobs than Cable trying to make them learn Center & Guard as well. Don’t you think the transition from college to pros is difficult enough for guys that we drafted based on potential instead of production ???

  105. The Big Banana Says:

    Cable could have called the TO on the sideline. Why didn’t he?

    ==========================================

    He said he tried. That would make the second time that the officials didn’t see him trying to call timeout. The guy needs to figure out how to get their attention. jumping jacks maybe?

  106. guest123 Says:

    Next year, wont have to worry about having a top 35 pick, will we? Cant beat up Al for a botched pick next year anyway. LOL

  107. fat kidd Says:

    Shooter Now: Bud Grant sees a bit of George Blanda in Vikings’ Brett Favre
    By Charley Walters
    Vikings’ Brett Favre at the Metrodome on September 26, 2010. (Pioneer Press: John Doman)Pro Football Hall of Fame former Minnesota Vikings coach Bud Grant equates George Blanda, in terms of durability, with Vikings quarterback Brett Favre.

    “The main thing he had is, he played every week, and he played effectively,” Grant, 83, said of Blanda, who died this week at age 83 and played in the NFL until almost his 49th birthday.

    Favre has started 288 straight NFL games, a record for a non-kicker.

    “In order to be great, you have to have durability, and he had that durability,” Grant said of Blanda, a hall of fame former quarterback-kicker. “And when he was done (starting) and was a backup, he’d go in there when you needed him and he could still handle the ball.”

    Blanda played 26 seasons in the NFL. Favre is in his 20th NFL season.

    “If Favre could kick,” Grant said, “he could play another 10 years.”

    Grant, meanwhile, continues to hunt and fish. He just returned from Saskatchewan, where he hunted ducks and geese, and today is headed to his lake home in Wisconsin in pursuit of grouse.

    On Friday, Grant will travel to North Dakota for Saturday’s opening of duck season.

    Like Blanda and Favre, Grant still has durability.

    “I still can go,” he said.

  108. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Signature play from last year’s Texan demolition of the Raids:

    Raids on their own 1 yard line. Decide to run to get a little separation from the endzone.

    Result: Run is stuffed. And I mean STUFFED. Not for a yard gain or no gain. No, I mean STUFFED, as in CRUSHED. Runner (believe it was Fargas) is tackled about 4 yards deep in the end zone for a pitiful safety.

    Watching that play, one had to be amazed by how freaking bad the Raid offensive line is. I’m telling you, the entire line was physically DOMINATED, pushed back like rag dolls.

    And the tragic thing is, we’ve got pretty much the exact same garbage OL this year, that we had last year.

    Doesn’t bode well.

    But it is the NFL, and on any given Sunday…

    What might change: We’re at home, instead of in Houston. We’ve got an actual NFL QB starting instead of JaMoron. McFad instead of Fargas.

    Still, Grads is going to have his work cut out and perform miracles to overcome the crap we have masquerading as an OL.

    But that’s going to be true of every game we play for the foreseeable future.

    The thing is, I’m a die hard Raid fan and believe the Polish popgun is up to the task. I disagree with those that maintain Grads isn’t accurate. I think he’s very accurate. I think his arm strength is mediocre, but not as bad as some say. I also think he’s a winner that will come through in the clutch and improve as he gets more experience.

    Raids are getting 3.5 and the total is 44, so the books are predicting a score something like 24-20 Houston.

    One thing is certain, we gotta score more than the 6 pts we put up against Hou last yr if we want to have a shot at winning.

  109. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The guy needs to figure out how to get their attention. jumping jacks maybe?

    ***

    beating women and asst coaches has gotten attention in the past!

    Keep the ST Coach close by just in case … or invite Renée Zellweger to all team functions

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RAIDERMAN99,

    the Texans wont have Brian Cushing or Dunta Robinson in this contest, either …

  111. Dakota Says:

    LA to the Bay,

    I saw your objection to your placement on the list. You mak appeal by providing the administrator (me) three verified examples of comments wherein you stuck up for McFadden between January 2009 and September 8, 2010.

  112. guest123 Says:

    And no Duane Brown. suspended 4 games.

  113. RNOraiderFan Says:

    or perhaps Veldheer at LT & Campbell at RT from Day 1 at camp and OTA’s would be more mature and ready to handle the starting jobs than Cable trying to make them learn Center & Guard as well. Don’t you think the transition from college to pros is difficult enough for guys that we drafted based on potential instead of production ???
    ******************************************************
    One of the smartest things I’ve heard.
    Why is cable so hell bent on puttint these guys in diffrent positions besides the positions they play? I think Cable is a little high on himself just like Brian Bilick got and his ego is clouding his own judgement.

  114. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Texans will have Mario, enough said!

  115. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Texans D:

    Shaun Cody DT
    Ryan Denney DE
    Earl Mitchell DT
    Jesse Nading DE
    Adewale Ogunleye DE
    Frank Okam DT
    Amobi Okoye DT
    Antonio Smith DE
    Mario Williams DE

    Linebackers

    Xavier Adibi OLB
    Kevin Bentley ILB
    Zac Diles OLB
    David Nixon OLB
    DeMeco Ryans ILB
    Darryl Sharpton OLB

    Defensive Backs

    Dominique Barber SS
    Kareem Jackson CB
    Brice McCain CB
    Sherrick McManis CB
    Antwaun Molden CB
    Troy Nolan FS
    Karl Paymah CB
    Bernard Pollard SS
    Glover Quin CB
    Eugene Wilson FS

  116. The Big Banana Says:

    Dakota – my objection to being on the list is my drafting him for my fantasy team. Clearly, that shows that I expected him to do something this year. Yes?

    Oh, and message for Hue Jack: Don’t replace DMAC with Bush on the goal line!!! The Raiders and my fantasy team will both be better for it.

  117. guest123 Says:

    The fact that Cable earned his bones on developing offensive lines and his line is one of the worst in football after 2 plus years in charge says everything you need to know about Cable. Do one thing and do it well. That should be a baseline. The O line is a relfection of his talent as a coach.

  118. RaiderRockstar Says:

    think ex-Raider David Nixon will give the Texans any info about our defense ???

  119. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Offensive Linemen:

    Mike Brisiel G
    Rashad Butler T
    Antoine Caldwell G
    Chris Myers C
    Ephraim Salaam T
    Shelley Smith G
    Wade Smith G/C
    Kasey Studdard G
    Eric Winston T

    ***

    Jhill, can I get a “Who ???”

  120. RaiderDebo Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:14 am
    Hue Jackson is no better than Gregg Knapp.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I thought Gregg Knapp was pretty good. I’ll take the offense we were running at the end of 2008 any day. The guys I want out of the building are Tollner and Buddy Whack It.

  121. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I really thought the Raiders would be 2-1 going into this one. should of been..
    Titans L
    Rams W
    Cards W
    Texans L
    we should be able to beat Denver and KC twice and split with SD
    9ers W
    Indy L
    Steelers L
    that was my thinking…. now it looks a lot worse.

  122. RNOraiderFan Says:

    The Pats are happy.

  123. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The guys I want out of the building are Tollner and Buddy Whack It.

    ***

    Why???

    who do you think groomed Gradkowski?

    these guys haven’t been play callers for Oakland. your beef must be with Cable & Jackson

  124. guest123 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:10 am
    think ex-Raider David Nixon will give the Texans any info about our defense ???

    **************************

    Other than to say, “go straight at it”. It can’t stop you?

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RNO: the gameplan to beat the Titans was simple

    shut down CJ2K. we couldn’t do that and we lost. every time you play against a one dimensional offense (like SF) that should be considered a winnable game – especially when you’ve had the entire offseason to prepare for it!

    we beat the Steelers the last 2 times we played them.

    My guess is we split with KC, Dungver & Sandy Eggo and go 3-3 in division games

  126. Dakota Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
    Dakota – my objection to being on the list is my drafting him for my fantasy team. Clearly, that shows that I expected him to do something this year. Yes?

    Oh, and message for Hue Jack: Don’t replace DMAC with Bush on the goal line!!! The Raiders and my fantasy team will both be better for it.
    _________

    no

  127. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Other than to say, “go straight at it”. It can’t stop you?

    ***

    LOL!

  128. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I hate to say it, but KC got thier good team by getting rid of thier talent and rebuilding thier team. I think its time the Raiders do the same. This team is not a player or two away from the playoffs. This team is bottom 5 in the NFL. Its time to think about trading some of our talented player (that are going to walk as soon as they can anyways) and rebuild. Getting rid of draft picks for other teams great players is not working. Vikings, got rid of their best O player.. few years later in the playoffs. Pats, always getting rid of talent and always in the playoffs. Time to find a GM and a coach that will stick for 5 years min, and let them build this team.

  129. guest123 Says:

    I’m nervous about Kubiak playing up a bunch of meaningless stats. Last time that happened, Rex Ryan was talking up the Raiders big win over Philadelphia, praising the Raiders this and the Raiders that.

    And then he layed the boom and blew us out 38-0.

  130. TheyCallMeAssassin Says:

    I hope that this game is one of the four games a season where we get to see the Raiders defense bring all-out pressure.

  131. RNOraiderFan Says:

    And then he layed the boom and blew us out 38-0.
    *******************************************
    This should be a title to a book about the Raiders the past 8 years.

  132. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I hope that this game is one of the four games a season where we get to see the Raiders defense bring all-out pressure.
    ************************************************
    WORD! Why is that? It seems every once in a while the Raiders D plays nasty. Then they got back into hibernation and then BOOM! they are nasty again. Sometimes its just for a quarter sometimes its for a whole game. This team is bipolar.

  133. BenRaiderfan Says:

    We have a good defense!
    -We can run the ball!
    -Murphy and DHB are playing better, and Chaz will majerhis group better when he is healthy!
    -We have a great TE!

    -We need to improve our JC, Fix the OL, and hire a better HC!

    I like Bruce, but the dude will always avg less than 60% cmp! We neem more from our QB. We can help JC improve, or we need to add another QB in a year or two. I don’t think bruce will improve his accuracy.
    *******************************************************
    We benched JC because Cable couldn’t admit that he had screwed up with the offensive line. JC got 2/3 of his play against an 8th ranked defense and Grad got all of his time against cupcakes and can’t get 60% completion. This game is his “Titans” game and we’ll see how he does. And please, red zone penetration against bottom 5 defenses is meaningless.

  134. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    We need to run the ball on this Texan team they have a bad run d rite now…Mario Williams does frighten me…The guy is a beast and mite murder Bruce if we cant get a blocker on him….

  135. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    OUCH sorry I wasnt reading stat sheets wrong its still too early…There Run D looks strong….That mite be alil problem if we cant run and have to survive on Bruce’s arm all game

  136. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I need a new Raiders jersey, but have no idea whos to get. Every time I get one they turn out to be a bust or leave the team. The last jersey I had that was good year in and year out was Tim Brown’s. Other jerseys I had
    Darrell Russell, Napolian Harris, Buchanon, Moss, Barton, Morrison………man I’m sick of throwing away $$

  137. The Big Banana Says:

    JC got 2/3 of his play against an 8th ranked defense and Grad got all of his time against cupcakes

    ==================================================

    So how did JC do against the St. Louis cupcakes? Lets compare apples to apples. Both QBs played a half against the Lambs. Grads clearly outplayed JC. Simple.

  138. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Its alrite I cashed out on a Schilens jersey last year 2 weeks later he gets injured….

  139. RaiderDebo Says:

    The guys I want out of the building are Tollner and Buddy Whack It.

    ***

    Why???

    who do you think groomed Gradkowski?

    these guys haven’t been play callers for Oakland. your beef must be with Cable & Jackson
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    All I know is that the last time we won two games in a row (2008), the offense was starting to click and our #1 pick was playing well. Then we replace Knapp and De Fillipo with Tollner and Whack It. You know how that went. I don’t think bringing in Hue Jackson was a ringing endorsement of those guys.

  140. guest123 Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:34 am
    I need a new Raiders jersey, but have no idea whos to get. Every time I get one they turn out to be a bust or leave the team. The last jersey I had that was good year in and year out was Tim Brown’s. Other jerseys I had
    Darrell Russell, Napolian Harris, Buchanon, Moss, Barton, Morrison………man I’m sick of throwing away $$

    **********************

    Buy Jason Campbell jersey…do us all a favor

  141. The Big Banana Says:

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    I need a new Raiders jersey, but have no idea whos to get.

    =================================================

    Can’t go wrong with a Nnamdi jersey.

  142. RNOraiderFan Says:

    I’m thinkin about Houston.. love the #99. My fav all time was #47 Weatley or #40 Jon Richey. I love them ugly #s

  143. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    Grakdowski just has to keep this game out of Jano’s hands, and we’ll be fine.

  144. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Aso will be gone next year.

  145. mistic1 Says:

    # guest123 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    MM34 is a liability. If we cut him, he ends up in the UFL.
    =========================================================

    The kid missed a tackle on special teams that cost a touchdown, but overall he has been solid when he is on the field. I saw him blow a coverage last year, but he is much better in coverage this year. I need some evidence before I can make this kind of statement. In fact I could see him taking playing time away from branch soon. Mm34 is missile, he is excellent in run support, and can cover tight ends. Most of all he is that violent hitter that the strong safety needs to be in our scheme.

    Huff is a decent player, but at single high safety not only do you need to be a solid tackler ( huff is good enough), but you need to be a ball hawk and make some plays, pass defenses and interceptions. This is where Huff is sorely lacking! Stevie Brown will pas him up by next year. This kid brown is a ball hawking play maker.

  146. Just Fire Baby Says:

    #55 McClain

    Just got one. Won’t go wrong, he will be cracking heads for 10 years here.

  147. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Just like Woodson, Barton, Coleman, ect ect ect

  148. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Get a Lechler jersey

  149. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Stars come to oakland for a highly paid vacation and then go somewhere else to do work. I’m sick of it.

  150. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Ah Lechler…. just can’t wear a punters jersey… just can’t do it. Would love to see a guy on D step up and sign long term. Like them Defense jerseys.

  151. RaiderRockstar Says:

    OUCH sorry I wasnt reading stat sheets wrong its still too early…There Run D looks strong….That mite be alil problem if we cant run and have to survive on Bruce’s arm all game

    ***

    PD81: the Texans Run D only looks good on paper because thier secondary is so awful, teams go out of thier way to exploit it

    with the Raiders weakness being in the passing game, we may not be able to take advantage like Manning, McNabb & Romo did

  152. mistic1 Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Grakdowski just has to keep this game out of Jano’s hands, and we’ll be fine.
    ========================================================
    Grads cant even keep the ball out of the defenses hands

  153. guest123 Says:

    The kid missed a tackle on special teams that cost a touchdown, but overall he has been solid when he is on the field. I saw him blow a coverage last year, but he is much better in coverage this year. I need some evidence before I can make this kind of statement. In fact I could see him taking playing time away from branch soon. Mm34 is missile, he is excellent in run support, and can cover tight ends. Most of all he is that violent hitter that the strong safety needs to be in our scheme.

    Huff is a decent player, but at single high safety not only do you need to be a solid tackler ( huff is good enough), but you need to be a ball hawk and make some plays, pass defenses and interceptions. This is where Huff is sorely lacking! Stevie Brown will pas him up by next year. This kid brown is a ball hawking play maker.

    **********************
    Agree about S. Brown, ballhawk is a good description. Don’t care how he does it, he just is always around the ball. There’s a talent to that too.

    As for MM34, he does provide some decent plays, but when he gets beat, it’s a backbreaker of a play. I wish he could find a 3rd gear instead of always playing in 5th gear. We need some consistency, and he needs to learn it’s a team sport, and not try to go for the knockout blow every time.

  154. RNOraiderFan Says:

    McClain.. If he plays like the first two weeks, no thanks. If he plays every week like he did against the Card then I might go that route.

  155. Just Fire Baby Says:

    PD81: the Texans Run D only looks good on paper because thier secondary is so awful, teams go out of thier way to exploit it

    **********************************

    Don’t tell Hue Jackson, he might throw it 45 times.

  156. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Well Gradkoski isnt Manning or Mcnabb so that mite be a problem….

  157. RNOraiderFan Says:

    Gots to run LATER NATION!

  158. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Mcfadden has been a pleasant surprise this year..Let the kid run

  159. guest123 Says:

    I’m as big a Gradkowski fan as the next…but really he
    is bottom 10% of starting QB’s based on talent/skill level. But he’s clearly better than the motley crew on the bench.

  160. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Debo: Knapp lasted just 1 season as OC in Seattle

    same thing with DeFillipo as Asst QB coach for the Jets

    both of these guys were sent packing faster than Al Davis could find Hue Jackson’s phone number this offseason!

  161. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    It doesnt really matter who’s the QB as long as our O-Line keeps on letting ppl run rite through them were gonna have a poor pass game

  162. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

  163. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Kubiak latched on to stats Wednesday morning to paint the Raiders as a one of the NFL’s top teams.

    “I think there’s two teams in this league that are in the top 10 offensively and defensively and they’re one of them,” Kubiak said. “That tells you how balanced they are and how well they’re playing.”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    WTG Coach Cable!

  164. mistic1 Says:

    Hue Jack is the truth!!! he is producing offense without an nfl caliber o-line, and a sub par qb. next year when it his team and he can get his guys, you will see a huge improvement.

  165. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bruce puts his team in a chance to win.

    He SHOULD be 3-1 in games he has started and finished, with a couple of little comebacks.

    Instead the Fat kicker missed a gimme, and now everybody hates everyone. Hue, Cable, Bruce, O-line still, Branch, MM34…etc, etc.

    F’kn Seabass tossed it all out the window for us.

  166. Pretty Rick Says:

    Texans-31 Raiders-17 I hope Im wrong but Im probably not. Tom Cable= 5-11

  167. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I thin Seabass was jus to sober….We need to keep him buzzed at all time and he’ll be fine….When he has a clear mind he thinks to much and over compensates

  168. Gary Says:

    There you go Jerry taking the low road again….who cares who they play as you say all of the time it is tough to win in this league and you have to give credit to the improvement of the Raiders, last year the Raiders were at the bottom of the league in total defense and offense…..what do you want?

  169. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Don’t tell Hue Jackson, he might throw it 45 times.

    Well Gradkoski isnt Manning or Mcnabb so that mite be a problem….

    Mcfadden has been a pleasant surprise this year..Let the kid run

    ***

    well said fellas

  170. DMAC Says:

    I wonder if Loper can play any of the tackle positions?

  171. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    DMAC Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
    I wonder if Loper can play any of the tackle positions?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Or longsnap?

  172. DMAC Says:

    I wonder when Bruce Campbell will get his shot at RG? Can’t do worse than Coop.

  173. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cheers to the Veldheer-Henderson plate of crap LT rotation, heading into it’s third week.

    Real stellar job Cable.

  174. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wonder if Loper can play any of the tackle positions?

    ***

    Robert Gallery (like Bruce Campbell, Nick Miller & Chaz Schilens) … will be ready by Week 16

  175. mistic1 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Bruce puts his team in a chance to win.

    He SHOULD be 3-1 in games he has started and finished, with a couple of little comebacks.

    Instead the Fat kicker missed a gimme, and now everybody hates everyone. Hue, Cable, Bruce, O-line still, Branch, MM34…etc, etc.

    F’kn Seabass tossed it all out the window for us.
    =======================================================

    Nice spin. The truth is grads gave us more chances to lose than he gave us to win. Our young stars in the making dmac and dhb took over that game on the last drive, and put us in a good spot. Yes seabass missed, but in reality the team made too many mistakes and deserved to lose that game. The game should only come down to the kicker when you have two very good teams evenly matched, like ravens and jets for example. When your playing a bottom feeding doormat, with a terrible defense you need to put points on the board! Grads and the o-line threw that game out the window for us.

  176. DMAC Says:

    Ravens RT Jared Gaither (back) is expected to miss “at least” a few more weeks.
    Gaither is trying to work slowly into limited practices, but there’s still no concrete timetable for his return. The Ravens’ decision to carry him on the roster anyway shows just how valuable of a player he is. It’s possible they’re targeting the Week 8 bye for Gaither to resume practicing fully.
    Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
    =============
    Can we make a trade already?

  177. LA to TheBay Says:

    Dakota Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    LA to the Bay,

    I saw your objection to your placement on the list. You mak appeal by providing the administrator (me) three verified examples of comments wherein you stuck up for McFadden between January 2009 and September 8, 2010.

    ———————————————-

    Dang, you’re gonna makeme dig thru all that BS?

    We’ll just call it even. I have rued the day.

  178. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maybe we should blow this team up and start over like the KC Chiefs did ???

    they raided the NE Patriots staff …

    We should just trade Mike Bush, Richard Seymour & Nnamdi Asomugha (maybe even our 2nd rounder next year) for the following:

    Director of Player Personnel – Nick Caserio
    Director of College Scouting – Jon Robinson
    Director of Pro Personnel – Jason Licht

    Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line – Dante Scarnecchia

    Quarterbacks – Bill O’Brien
    Running Backs – Ivan Fears
    Wide Receivers – Chad O’Shea
    Offensive Assistant Coach – Brian Ferentz

  180. LA to TheBay Says:

    Nice spin. The truth is grads gave us more chances to lose than he gave us to win. Our young stars in the making dmac and dhb took over that game on the last drive, and put us in a good spot. Yes seabass missed, but in reality the team made too many mistakes and deserved to lose that game. The game should only come down to the kicker when you have two very good teams evenly matched, like ravens and jets for example. When your playing a bottom feeding doormat, with a terrible defense you need to put points on the board! Grads and the o-line threw that game out the window for us.
    ————————————————

    Bottom line: when Bruce walked off the field, he had a W. Somebody had to throw the ball on the last drive, right?

  181. r8eray Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
    Tom Cable loves Seabass like Fat Kidd loves cake!
    ___________________

    50 cent lyrics…?

  182. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ray: I’m from California

    yes, I know who 50 Cent is …

    LOL!

    sorry if that ruins my reputation as a Podunker :P

  183. lefty12 Says:

    Mistic,you can spin it any way you wish but the fact remains if our kicker makes 1 of the 2 chip shot FGs he missed,we win the game.

  184. DMAC Says:

    BRUCE AND DHB PUT US IN POSITION TO WIN THE GAME LATE IN THE 4TH Q.

  185. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if our kicker makes 1 of the 2 chip shot FGs he missed,we win the game.

    ***

    don’t blame Brickowski!

    Cable loves him :)

  186. DMAC Says:

    http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tx_janikowski.jpg

  187. DMAC Says:

    http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/09/17/sp_raiders17413pc.jpg

  188. DMAC Says:

    http://justblogbaby.com/files/2009/08/janikowski1.jpg

  189. DMAC Says:

    http://www.raidersrap.com/janikowski1222.jpg

  190. lefty12 Says:

    It is pretty ironic that across the bay they are talking about A.Smith and why he hasn’t been any good with any of the 7 OCs he has had-blaming Smith,while in Oakland people use that as an excuse for Campbell-he has had too many OCs.Maybe the reason he has gone thru so many is he can’t grasp any of their systems-same as Smith across the bay.

  191. The Big Banana Says:

    Mistic – Grads is a better option than anything we have right now. He put us in a position to win despite your propaganda. The kicker failed. It’s clear you have a vendetta against the guy, going out of your way to blame things on him. That was no more apparent than when you laughably said he almost lost us the Rams game. LOL!

    Who threw the ball to DHB on that last drive, drawing the PI? Campbell would have checked it down.

    Another thing. You seem real impressed with Hue Jack. I don’t have a problem with that but Hue Jack likes Grads more than JC. Talked him up pretty good. So what gives? Does Hue Jack know his stuff or not? Pick one.

  192. mistic1 Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Mistic,you can spin it any way you wish but the fact remains if our kicker makes 1 of the 2 chip shot FGs he missed,we win the game.
    =========================================================

    You are right about the missed fg. My point is we didnt do enough to win before then. We should not have had to rely on the kicking game to beat those scrubs.

    As a mtter of fact if the cards werent such scrubs they would have beaten us by at least a touch down, based on grads count’em 4 passes that bounced off defenders!

    I will give grads credit for battling back in a game where he clearly struggled, but against a better team he wont have that chance!

    By the way people killed JC for his mistake on the goal line, why does grads get a pass for an even worse gaffe?

  193. LA to TheBay Says:

    Don’t badmouth Smith too much.

    When his contract’s up, guess who’s signing the former 1st round pick in need of redemption?

    What was his 40 time?

  194. The Big Banana Says:

    It is pretty ironic that across the bay they are talking about A.Smith and why he hasn’t been any good with any of the 7 OCs he has had-blaming Smith,while in Oakland people use that as an excuse for Campbell-he has had too many OCs.Maybe the reason he has gone thru so many is he can’t grasp any of their systems-same as Smith across the bay.

    ==============================================

    BINGO!

  195. LA to TheBay Says:

    By the way people killed JC for his mistake on the goal line, why does grads get a pass for an even worse gaffe?

    He doesn’t. Dumb idea. He thought he could will the play to happen.

    Grad does get bonus points for having will as opposed to Campbell who has PMS.

  196. DMAC Says:

    Texans coach Gary Kubiak confirmed Wednesday that Andre Johnson (ankle) will be a game-day decision for Week 4.
    Source: Nick Scurfield on Twitter
    =============
    I want to see a Nnamdi-Johnson match-up

  197. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As a mtter of fact if the cards werent such scrubs they would have beaten us by at least a touch down, based on grads count’em 4 passes that bounced off defenders!

    ***************************************

    According to Mistic1, Bruce should have thrown 4-5 int’s every game.

    He’s never thrown more than one in any of his starts.

  198. r8eray Says:

    You guys think we’ll deal a RB before trade deadline?
    Greenbay? Detroit? Redskins?

    Maybe even Jason Campbell?
    Oct. 19th is just around the corner!

  199. LA to TheBay Says:

    I think I’m more upset with the idea of Jason Campbell more than the player himself. His acquisition represents everything wrong with the organization and the guy on top.

    Finally comes to his senses and dumps the chump. Then (and I’m sure management did their due dilligence in trying to grab Big Ben or McNabb, asking price was just too high), rather than trading for or drafting a capable QB, Al trades for a guy who has proven nothing other than that his scholarship was finally up when new management took over and realized he could not get the job done.

    If Campbell is the starter, I’ll root for him, just like every other Raider on the roster. I just don’t see him being succesful here or anywhere for that matter.

    The Al Davis Scholarship Fund is still very alive and its just really really old.

    Hopefully Cable’s comment about possibly mixing up the personel is more than just lip service.

  200. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    The Janikowski experiment has finally been exposed. He’s never really been put to the test in his 10 year career. His first 3 years here, we were a good team and there’s only one game I can think of that was put into his hands…2000 season at Chiefs…and he did deliver. That was 10 years ago. Under the Gruden/Gannon era, I can’t think of any other games that were in Jano’s hands. From 2003 and beyond, we’ve sucked anyway. We’ve played some games where mere relevancy was on the line, but none came down to a Jano field goal. I’d be willing to give him a pass for that Shanarat timeout trick in ‘07. He did nail the first one. And, that was a huge game where something was on the line: relevancy. Being 2-1, beating Denver on the road, etc. Momentum builder. There really hasn’t been much else. Sure Jano’s nailed some field goals, but they were in meaningless games, in wasted seasons. Reminder: This football team hasn’t been competitive for 7 years. So Jano can make a 50 yarder, what does it prove? Nothing’s on the line anyway. Here we were last week, and something huge was on the line. A lot of players on this team are buying into what Cable, Jackson, and Gradkowski have going. Jano isn’t one of them. Cable should make a statement by putting someone else in to kick FGs next week, anyone who’s ever kicked, in college or high school.

  201. LA to TheBay Says:

    r8eray Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am
    You guys think we’ll deal a RB before trade deadline?
    Greenbay? Detroit? Redskins?
    ————————-

    Bush for AJ Hawk.

  202. mistic1 Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Mistic – Grads is a better option than anything we have right now. He put us in a position to win despite your propaganda. The kicker failed. It’s clear you have a vendetta against the guy, going out of your way to blame things on him. That was no more apparent than when you laughably said he almost lost us the Rams game. LOL!

    Who threw the ball to DHB on that last drive, drawing the PI? Campbell would have checked it down.

    Another thing. You seem real impressed with Hue Jack. I don’t have a problem with that but Hue Jack likes Grads more than JC. Talked him up pretty good. So what gives? Does Hue Jack know his stuff or not? Pick one.
    =======================================================

    Dont even try it. Hue jack made no claims about likes or dislikes, other than to say at this moment grads is executing better than jc. I dont have a problem with grads being in now if he has firmer grasp on the offense at this moment. hue jack would know better than me.

    My contention is that in the long run he will not be a better option than jc or any number of qb’s in the league for that matter, because he is simply not that talented.

    Besides grads played like garbage against the cards and was shaky at best against the rams. Im just reporting the facts. Lastly he has gotten away with a number of ill advised, inaccurate passes, and bone headed decisions, & truth be told when those mistakes bite him / us in the ass, we wont be talking about the kicker.

    Grads , good teammate, fiery competitor, marginal, if not almost mediocre qb for the nfl.

  203. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bush for AJ Hawk.

    ***

    are you kidding me?

    that would be the deal of the century!

    no way Al Davis could pull that off …

  204. DMAC Says:

    If we trade Bush it better be for a LT or RT.

  205. RaiderRockstar Says:

    SLB McClain
    MLB Hawk
    WLB Wimbley

    Groves to rotate at DE with Houston, ShoNasty and Scott

  206. DMAC Says:

    Nick Miller, Hiram “stiff armed” Eugene, Sam Williams, Cooper Carlisle, etc. for RT Gared Gaither

  207. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LA to TheBay: looking back, do you think we should have traded Nnamdi & Walrus for Big Ben?

  208. DMAC Says:

    Shonasty is a gamer. He should get more snaps throughout the game than he does. He is clearly a better overall player than Scott.

  209. DMAC Says:

    MY bad… Jared Gaither

  210. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Shonasty is a gamer. He should get more snaps throughout the game than he does. He is clearly a better overall player than Scott.

    ***

    TRUTH!

    Scott should be a situational pass rusher

    thats the only thing he’s good at

  211. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    Mistic, Jason Campbell is one of the dumbest QBs to ever wear a Raider uniform. I’ll take Gradkowski’s marginal talent, his motivation, his pocket presence and understanding of the game. Campbell can throw a ball a hundred yards…what good is it if he’s too stupid to read defenses and get rid of the ball quick?

  212. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DMAC: why would the Ravens want Hiram Eugene?

    they saw firsthand what a great player he was in WK17 last year!

  213. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wish we could give the Ravens McClain & Seymour for Ray Lewis and Derrick Mason

    this team lacks leadership on both sides of the ball and 2 years of Lewis is better than 10 years of McLame!

  214. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    DMAC: why would the Ravens want Hiram Eugene?

    they saw firsthand what a great player he was in WK17 last year!
    ===========
    That’s easy…….
    They can use him on their practice squad, catching back to back stiff arms from MgGahee and Rice.

  215. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BBL – work to do

  216. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    I wish we could give the Ravens McClain & Seymour for Ray Lewis and Derrick Mason

    this team lacks leadership on both sides of the ball and 2 years of Lewis is better than 10 years of McLame!
    =========
    RRS,
    Yeah, you really miss the GREAT leadership from Capt. Kirk.

  217. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    At this point, Mistic, I’ve seen NOTHING out of Jason Campbell, since he’s been with this team, that would remotely demonstrate that he’s better than JaMarcus Russell. Nothing. If you can think of anything, I’m waiting.

  218. DMAC Says:

    Capt. Kirk is gone. McClain is here. GET OVER IT!

  219. mistic1 Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    I wish we could give the Ravens McClain & Seymour for Ray Lewis and Derrick Mason

    this team lacks leadership on both sides of the ball and 2 years of Lewis is better than 10 years of McLame!
    =======================================================
    What!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    Mcclaine is getting better every week! He hasnt even begun to scratch the surface of his talent. He is just learning the mechanical phase of playing his position, he is the best mlb we have had since romo, and that is right now at this moment. Seymour not a leader!?!?!?! riding in with the rookies, and camp fodder, even though he did not get the money he wanted isnt leadership!!?!?!?! Not to mention he is one of the best d tackles in foot ball!!

    Wow Spoken like a true gradkowski fan!

  220. DKnight007 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
    Look at the wonders Davis and Iupati are doing for the 49ers right now?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Is this sarcasm?

    A Davis is just as bad as Mario right now and Iupati is not consistent enough at pass blocking either.

    Hence why Smith is always getting flushed out of the pocket.

    The Niners offense is worse than the Raiders offense right now.

  221. DKnight007 Says:

    DMAC Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    If we trade Bush it better be for a LT or RT.

    ^^^^^^^
    Agreed!

  222. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I sure do love seeing the Whiners start out 0-3

  223. lefty12 Says:

    M,what does being a BG backer have to do with having your head where the sun doesn’t shine concerning McClain?

  224. Dakota Says:

    Why trade Bush? RB is one of our few positions of strength and you want to risk that? RBs get injured all the time, we should keep them both.

    Besides, we aren’t getting a good LT or RT for an injury prone RB with conditioning problems.

  225. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I wonder if we’ll have a 1st round pick

  226. hellsbells Says:

    With Gaither being injured not sure if a trade can be made.

  227. mistic1 Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Mistic, Jason Campbell is one of the dumbest QBs to ever wear a Raider uniform. I’ll take Gradkowski’s marginal talent, his motivation, his pocket presence and understanding of the game. Campbell can throw a ball a hundred yards…what good is it if he’s too stupid to read defenses and get rid of the ball quick?
    =========================================================

    I understand your passion….but you are misinformed. A quick look at grads career numbers show you who he is, 17 td 18 ints never a completion percentage of more the 54%. Also the fact that he has been in the league as long as campbell but cant hold a starting job says something about his ability. he is not a rookie that needs game experience, he is not a very good qb. Why is this so difficult for you and other so called raider fans to accept?

    Campbell has out performed grads over the same number of years in the league, and its not even close! Numbers dont lie!!!!

  228. hellsbells Says:

    At least there will be no dirt infield this week. Sunday was the last As game.

  229. DMAC Says:

    I’ll take an injured Gaither over Mario and Walker anyday.

  230. hellsbells Says:

    THINK YOU have to pass a physical to make trade legit.

  231. hellsbells Says:

    Post 213 must have been a brain fart?

  232. DMAC Says:

    The Ravens are targeting week 8 return. I hope we throw an offer, but I know it won’t happen.

  233. JB Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    At this point, Mistic, I’ve seen NOTHING out of Jason Campbell, since he’s been with this team, that would remotely demonstrate that he’s better than JaMarcus Russell. Nothing. If you can think of anything, I’m waiting.
    ************************

    To start with, he’s not on drugs. Add to that he shows up ready to work. Add to that he can throw an accurate pass, Add to that he can throw a touch pass.

    Is that enough for starters. FORGET JaLoser. He screwed us up for three years and brought nothing to the table other than his fat a$$.

    To compare the two in the sentence is an insult to football.

    JCampbell may not be a world-beating QB but at least he’s trying. More than you can say about lard-a$$.

  234. mistic1 Says:

    Trade Bush!??!?!? What he is the perfect compliment to Dmac, and if dmac goes down( please dont so we can continue to shut these fools up) Bush is a more than capable fill in. Cart right and bennett would be a mjor drop off.

  235. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    Mistic, still waiting on any examples you could give me of Campbell demonstrating he’s better than JaMarcus Russell, since he’s been here. Let alone better than Gradkowski….lol. We’re not talking about the past, Mistic. The here and now.

  236. DMAC Says:

    # hellsbells Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Post 213 must have been a brain fart?
    =======
    No. RRS is a McClain hater. Still can’t get over the fact Kirk is in Jax.

  237. hellsbells Says:

    It would look goog

    Gaither Gallery Sat?? Loper Veldheer

  238. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    You guys calling for a trade of my man Bush are tripping out. What happens when McFadden gets hurt? I don’t wish it, but lets not act like it doesn’t happen….

    As for McClain, he’s a beast out there. Had himself a solid game last week, and he deserves a lot of credit for the fact that people are where they are supposed to be. He can’t make plays for everybody, but he can damn sure make sure folks are where they need to be. And for him to be a rookie and he’s capable of doing all of that, that is huge. The game is only gonna get slower and slower for him; then you all will be right back on his bandwagon…

    good grief fellas, it’s been like two weeks, don’t trade the entire team already….when was the last time our team was ranked in the top 10 in off and def…we’re almost there. If we can score some damn points, we’ll run away with this division this year.

  239. HairyBush Says:

    If the Raiders do a face plant this week, Season is officially over. (it probaly already is)

    When a team that is in a state of disfunction, and trying to find it’s idenity (like the Raiders), losses a game like it did last week, it sets A team back further than most know. The Raiders truly aren’t that good to let a game like last weeks slip away.

    By the way, When are we going to chill out with all the penalties?

    For the record, I like Grads attitude and competitivness, but I wonder to myself, am I just being dillusional about where he can really take the Raiders?

    When I was watching the Cards game, I must have said to myself on 5 different occasions, WOW! glad that wasn’t picked off. If Grads keeps playing on the edge like last week, it will blow up in his face against a competent defensive backfield, even a half way decent one.

    I am so sick of hearing Cable’s post game press confrences. I think he should just record one and just push play for the media every week. same old same old- were so close blah blah blah

    Perhaps the Raiders would be a lot “closer” with a little disipline. Who’s fault is that Tom?

    I don’t mind plays like McClain’s bodyslam against the Rams, it made a statement and was worth the fine. It’s all the p.i. calls, false starts etc;

    Last weeks game is making me jaded.

    If someone wants to give me a reason to think we are not going to pull a Janakowsi this week, I would truly like to hear it. It’s hard not to believe the Texans aren’t going to put it on us.

    P.S. If Nnamdi doesn’t shadow Johnson this week I may lose it.

    Sorry had to vent.

    How

  240. DMAC Says:

    # hellsbells Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    It would look goog

    Gaither Gallery Sat?? Loper Veldheer
    ========
    I likes…
    Still want to see what Bruce Campbell has to offer though.

  241. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    hellsbells Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:59 am
    At least there will be no dirt infield this week. Sunday was the last As game.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yeah, the dirt really disrupted Jano against the Cards. LOL.

  242. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    JB, that’s not enough, actually.

    I’m looking for examples of ON THE FIELD play. What has Jason Campbell done, ON THE FIELD, PLAYING, IN UNIFORM, AS A QUARTERBACK, to prove that he’s A BETTER PLAYER, READ: PLAYER, than JaMarcus Russell. I’m impressed with Campbell’s talent and work ethic you speak of. But unfortunately, since he’s been with the Raiders, I haven’t seen any of it transcend into solid play on the field, at least not any play that I could consider better than Russell’s. So, again, please enlighten me with any examples of Campbell playing better than Russell. I could really be a jerk and ask you to give examples of Campbell playing better than Gradkowski since he’s been a Raider, but we both know there are none. So I’m trying to give you Campbell guys a leg up by pitting him against Russell. lol. But it seems he’s not better than Russell, either. At least he hasn’t shown it yet in a Raider uniform.

  243. St. Jimmy Says:

    You’re a tool Hairy Bush.

  244. St. Jimmy Says:

    How Raider are you?

    I am so Raider, that when I go to the gym, I name the players who’s number is the locker I choose. Thats how Raider I am, and that is just one small example.

  245. HairyBush Says:

    Rockstar, for someone who is so adament (sp?) about giving draft picks (Higgins, Huff etc;) and other guys a chance, you certainly confuse me with you hatred toward RoMac.
    Did he try to put it in your wife’s pooper or something? Your bitterness just doesn’t make sense it’s week 4 bro. :)

  246. St. Jimmy Says:

    For you fat guys, naming the players number based on the McDonalds value menu number doesn’t count.

  247. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    It’s too bad JB and Mistic are incapable of giving any examples of Campbell playing better than Russell since he’s been a Raider. You’d think they’d have plenty. You’d think they’d be showering me with youtube clips. Maybe theyr’e still looking. They’re going to be looking a loooooong time.

  248. St. Jimmy Says:

    The Real GradkowskiRaider who is your favorite all time Raider player?

  249. HairyBush Says:

    St. Jimmy Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    How Raider are you?

    I am so Raider, that when I go to the gym, I name the players who’s number is the locker I choose. Thats how Raider I am, and that is just one small example.
    ————————–
    Let’s see, I just sided my whole house silver and Black.
    MY cars are silver and black.
    I have not one but 2 mancaves dedicated to the Raiders
    I go to every game I possibly can
    I haven’t missed a game in almost a decade.
    should I go on?

    Sorry for being real bro

  250. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    So, again, please enlighten me with any examples of Campbell playing better than Russell.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    As a Raider? Because as a Redskin he has clearly ourperformed JaThargic.

  251. mistic1 Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    At this point, Mistic, I’ve seen NOTHING out of Jason Campbell, since he’s been with this team, that would remotely demonstrate that he’s better than JaMarcus Russell. Nothing. If you can think of anything, I’m waiting.
    =========================================================
    You have only seen 6 quarters! We have seen more than that from garbagekowski, and it bears witness to his overall mediocrity, dating back to last year.

    This sounds like a post that has not watched campbell very often, and has seen even less of grads.

    Here si a list of qb’s that he could not beat out for a starting job, Chris Simms, Tim rattay, ken dorsey, charlie fry, derick anderson and brady quinn. half of these dudes arent even in the nfl any more.

  252. St. Jimmy Says:

    Hello The Real GradkowskiRaider, I am interested to know who your favorite all time Raider is?

  253. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    Campbell as a Raider, Bo.

    He’s played in 4 preseason games and a game and a half in the regular season. Surely he’s done something where we could say, “Russell couldn’t do that”. I’ve seen NOTHING as of this point. I’ve seen Gradkowski, however, do things Russell is incapable of on his first drive this season. Why is Gradkowski able to remove the Raiders from the Russell stench instantly, while Campbell, after a month and a half, still has shown no sign of it?

  254. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    You have only seen 6 quarters!

    …………..

    It only took Grad one drive.

  255. mistic1 Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    It’s too bad JB and Mistic are incapable of giving any examples of Campbell playing better than Russell since he’s been a Raider. You’d think they’d have plenty. You’d think they’d be showering me with youtube clips. Maybe theyr’e still looking. They’re going to be looking a loooooong time.
    ========================================================

    This makes no sense, HE HASNT BEEN IN THE RAIDER UNIFORM LONG ENOUGH TO CAMPARE HIS RAIDER CAREER, WITH THE RAIDER CAREERS OF GARBAGEKOWSKI OR RUSSELL?!?!?!

    iT MAKE MORE SNESE TO COMPARE THE OVERALL BODY OF WORK CAREER FOR CAREER, APPLES TO APPLES. DONT MAKE POST THE CAREER STATS FOR GARBKOWSKI AND CAMPBELL AGAIN!

  256. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    # St. Jimmy Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Hello The Real GradkowskiRaider, I am interested to know who your favorite all time Raider is?

    …………..

    I don’t have one. I kind of lost passion for the “most favorite player in the whole wide world” thing when I was like…I dunno, 11?

  257. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    This makes no sense, HE HASNT BEEN IN THE RAIDER UNIFORM LONG ENOUGH TO CAMPARE HIS RAIDER CAREER,

    …………..

    It only took Gradkowsk one drive to prove to all of us that he’s worlds better than Russell, liar. Keep lying.

  258. Dakota Says:

    HOWIE LONG!

  259. HairyBush Says:

    Dakota Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    HOWIE LONG
    —————-
    I second that

  260. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    I’ve got players I like more than others. But most favorite player? Ever? Nothing wrong with having one…but it’s a little childish, isn’t it?

  261. DMAC Says:

    My favorite player was Jay Shraoder!!!!

  262. St. Jimmy Says:

    The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    I’ve got players I like more than others. But most favorite player? Ever? Nothing wrong with having one…but it’s a little childish, isn’t it?

    ———————-

    No, I didn’t think it was, but whatever, i was just asking man.

  263. St. Jimmy Says:

    Tim Brown and Stacy Toran for me.

  264. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    Fair enough, Jimmy. My favorite active Raider when I was a kid was Marcus Allen. Since then, I really haven’t given much thought as to who my favorite player would be, in any sport.

  265. HairyBush Says:

    The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    I’ve got players I like more than others. But most favorite player? Ever? Nothing wrong with having one…but it’s a little childish, isn’t it?
    ——————
    Childish? perhaps

    I just look at it in a more mature manner like who best represents the Raiders in your mind, as opposed to an 11 year old having a man crush on Bo Jackson type of favorite player.

  266. St. Jimmy Says:

    Thats cool man, Marcus was a great player, I liked him too.

  267. Dakota Says:

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z1uVrw2OL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

    When I was about 8 or 9 I saw this football card and I was a fan of the Raiders from that day forward….Howie looked badazz. I then threw my lot in with all the LA teams (a couple of years later I was converted to a Cubs fan by my stepdad and WGN).

    Goooooo LA RAIDERS!
    Goooooo LAKERS!
    Goooooo KINGS!

  268. The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:

    I was also a Laker fan when I was a kid. I outgrew that, too.

  269. Plunketthead Says:

    Frank Hawkins

  270. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s STILL a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?

    What’s with all the whining? Where’s the mettle of the Raiders hardcore fan?

    If this team cleans-up even half its own messes, it will win games. So, Janikowski had a real focked up day…I saw Zach Miller clang one that I could’ve caught, and it might’ve been the game winner.

    If the team does what the weak-kneed on this forum do (i.e., sit around and whine about what mighta/coulda/shoulda been), they’d never have a chance to do better.

    Last week was last week…get over it, and watch the team improve. They’re a lot closer to good than they are to bad.

    Grads? One MAJOR brain cramp with the non-timeout, but he played a pretty good game. He had a few beautiful completions called back, remember. He did not play poorly at all.

    McClain being criticized? Hot air. He misses a few, but makes more than some people are giving him credit for. He’s a rookie — not an excuse, just a fact — and he’s still playing AT LEAST at the level of a journeyman NFL linebacker. McClain’s doing fine, and will be excellent.

    DHB?? Just keep feeding him the ball. DHB knows…yes, he KNOWS he can play with the big boys now.

    Grads to DHB is saving Cable’s job. For the moment.

    There are lots of things to be excited about still…like the return of Mike Bush, and the 250+ yds that Grads will put up on the Texans this week.

    We’re getting there.

  271. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Gradkowski’s problem is he gets injured.

    He has to sacrifice and take the big hit in order to get rid of the ball. Thats not on him, thats on the O line and the inexperienced wides.

    He makes things happen and buys those extra fractions of a second that mean the difference but pays for it.

    We haven’t seen the last of Campbell this year I’m thinking.

    Campbell’s likley working and studying hard. After playing behind that patch work O line, he knows he needs to.

  272. Plunketthead Says:

    4-5 at the bye

  273. JB Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    It’s too bad JB and Mistic are incapable of giving any examples of Campbell playing better than Russell since he’s been a Raider. You’d think they’d have plenty. You’d think they’d be showering me with youtube clips. Maybe theyr’e still looking. They’re going to be looking a loooooong time.
    ********************

    It’s tough at this point to give you what you are looking for as JC has only played 6 quarters as a Raider. I would submit that JaLoser was here for 3 years and did nothing remarkable. I don’t even consider JR as a legitimate NFL athlete. He was everything you didn’t want in a QB. Lazy, unprepared, unmotivated, careless, no leadership skills, the list goes on.

    I don’t even want to think about that turkey. He screwed us for three years and it will take another two year to recover.

    If your argument is to say JC is a bad or poor QB, I’d say not enough time has gone by to make that decision. Right now, Grads is the best choice for QB but I’m not sure ow long that will last. JC needs to clone Grad’s leadership skills, his enthusiasm, his mobility, his determination to succeed & his survivor ability. Likewise, Grad needs to clone JC’s arm strength, JC’s passing accuracy, JC’s ability to read defenses and JC’s NFL success in the red zone.

    Grads takes many more chances with his throws. AZ could have easily picked off 4-5 passes last week if their CB’s could catch. Grad’s side arm throwing motion is dangerous. Grad throws before he thinks sometimes and he’s just been really lucky so far there haven’t been more INT’s.

    JC on the other hand needs to make some changes if he wants to be successful here. He’d do well to take the things that Grad does well and emulate them.

  274. mistic1 Says:

    # The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    mistic1 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    This makes no sense, HE HASNT BEEN IN THE RAIDER UNIFORM LONG ENOUGH TO CAMPARE HIS RAIDER CAREER,

    …………..

    It only took Gradkowsk one drive to prove to all of us that he’s worlds better than Russell, liar. Keep lying.
    =======================================================

    Is this cat for real? LAST I CHECKED RUSSELL IS OUT OF THE NFL!!! HE WAS TRASHED FOR LACK OF WORK ETHIC AND PROFESSIONALISM, CAMPBELL IS NOT IN THAT CATEGORY. THIS ALONE IS PROOF THAT CAMPBELL IS A BETTER QB!

    WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RUSSELL ANYWAY? THE QBS IN QUESTION ARE GRADS AND CAMPBELL!! COMPARED CAREER FOR CAREER CAMPBELL HAS PROVEN TO BE A BETTER QB.

    BY THE WAY IF YOU KNOW FOOTBALL, (AND IT SEEMS LESS AND LESS LIKLY THAT YOU DO) WHEN A QB CHANGES TEAMS IT NORMALLY TAKES HIM A FULL SEASON BEFORE HE SHOWS WHAT HE CAN DO! JIM PLUNKETT ONE OF THE GREATEST QBS OF ALL TIME, RODE THE BENCH FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS WHEN HE CAME HERE. HOW ABOUT JAY CUTLER? DOES HE STILL LOOK LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER? GET REAL, YOUR ARGUMENT IS WEAK UNINFORMED, AND LACKS MERIT!

  275. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 8:01 am
    you guy are great at making excuses!

    must be democrats

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yeah like some guys in here are living in fantasy land and like making up lies and being hypocrites and will sell their country out, to make themselves rich.

    Must be GOP Republicans! LOL

  276. Plunketthead Says:

    4-3 the rest of the way for an 8-8 record and the satisfaction that the mules and the dolts will blow for years to come and Kansas Schiity will always be our little squaw after we beat them twice this year

  277. Plunketthead Says:

    Grads biggest problem is that he is not three inches taller

  278. aig-raiders Says:

    OMG we have a “the real gradkowski raider” now? This is the same fellow who was blasting Grad last year. lmao.

  279. Dakota Says:

    Garbagekowski’s biggest problem is that he has the talent to be a backup QB and that is it.

  280. aig-raiders Says:

    Plunk,

    I’m with you on 4-5 by bye time. split between Hou/SD. 2/2 between SF, Sea, Den, and KC.

  281. Dakota Says:

    3-6 at the Bye if we are lucky.

  282. priesttj Says:

    Well said JB, people singing Grads praises now better hope he’s starting in 2 weeks let alone 2 years. If he plays as wreckless as he did vs the Cards he’ll be on a very short leash. He takes way too many chances wit the football.

    I like him but I want him to settle down and use the talent around him better. He should’ve checked it down several times to DMC for a safer yards and completions instead near disastrous picks. Play more under control and we can beat the Texans. People in here seem to write off every miscue he makes because he’s fiery. Well that is a mediocre way of looking at what he doing in reality. He could’ve put the game away long before that final kick.

    That fcat may be lost on his fans but trust me it aint lost on the coaches and he has to play better………….period

  283. Plunketthead Says:

    RMR has seen the light. He is now a big Al Davis fan.
    Something about a burning bush and three SB trophies.

  284. Plunketthead Says:

    Who here said Bruce will lead us to the promised land?

    All I have seen is people saying he is better then anyone we have seen in the past 6 years.

  285. mistic1 Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Grads biggest problem is that he is not three inches taller
    =========================================================
    Grads is not an accurate passer, and he makes poor decisions. These are his fatal flaws. when you add that to his hieght, and his lack of arm strength this spells disaster and equals career back up.

    I like the guy as a back up for our team, and im ok with him as a starter for the interim. But in the long run he wont cut the mustard.

  286. The Big Banana Says:

    You have only seen 6 quarters!

    ========================================

    LOL! And it made you want to see more? 6 quarters was enough for the coaches and a majority of the fans, as evidenced by the chants for Bruce. He’s the best option on this team. Get over it!

  287. LA to TheBay Says:

    All I know is that the last time we won two games in a row (2008), the offense was starting to click and our #1 pick was playing well.
    ——————————–

    Knapp was demoted prior to the 2 game winning streak.

    Russell was playing quite well to close out 2008. He was reading the field and delivering the ball.

    Then 2009 happened. Not two months after the guy is cut, he’s busted for sippin what we all knew he was sipping. You wanted another Marinovich to be hanging around, getting the pass while everyone else worked hard?

  288. mistic1 Says:

    Grads does take a lot of chances, too many in my opinion. However EVEN WHEN HE MAKES THE RIGHT DECISION THE FACT REMANIS HE IS NOT ACCURATE ENOUGH OF A PASSER TO GET THE BALL WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. cASE AND POINT 2 TIMES HE HAD DHB OPEN IN THE ENDZONE ONE SAILED OUT OF BOUNDS, THE OTHER HIT THE DB IN THE ASS!!!! IS ANYBODY ACTUALLY WATCHING THE GAME?!?!/!/

  289. Plunketthead Says:

    7 years of losing bigtime has only made my Raider blood run faster .
    The bond between Al, the Oakland Raiders and I is like three chains woven as one.
    Every game is a new beginning. The past does not matter and this week the Boots will have a sad flight back to craptown

  290. LA to TheBay Says:

    BY THE WAY IF YOU KNOW FOOTBALL, (AND IT SEEMS LESS AND LESS LIKLY THAT YOU DO) WHEN A QB CHANGES TEAMS IT NORMALLY TAKES HIM A FULL SEASON BEFORE HE SHOWS WHAT HE CAN DO! JIM PLUNKETT ONE OF THE GREATEST QBS OF ALL TIME, RODE THE BENCH FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS WHEN HE CAME HERE. HOW ABOUT JAY CUTLER? DOES HE STILL LOOK LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER? GET REAL, YOUR ARGUMENT IS WEAK UNINFORMED, AND LACKS MERIT!

    ———————–

    Jay Cutler played well before going to Chicago and Plunkett once upon a time was rookie of the year.

    No comparison.

  291. Thec07 Says:

    Grads to DHB is saving Cable’s job. For the moment.

    +++++++++++++++++

    Grads to MURPHY is also a good connection….
    They have great chemistry….

  292. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic

    I’m watching the game alright. I’m watching us march right down and answer the opening TD. I’m watching Grad put the team in position to win the game on that final drive. I’m watching Murphy ranked as the 14th ranked receiver in the league for yards. I’m watching DHB gets more reception than Craptree. I’m watching the Raiders offense ranked in the top 10 for yardage production.

    Can you tell me who is responsible for this? JC? Heck no. Open your eyes.

    When was the last time our offense ranked in the top 10 for yardage?

  293. Thec07 Says:

    Also had the Raiders as being a top 7 defense….
    As of right now number 2 in all the land…..

  294. The Big Banana Says:

    Grads taking chances is both good and bad. He pushes the ball down the field and that netted us some PIs in the last game. He needs to be a bit more careful, though, for sure. We all saw the dropped picks. There’s no denying them. Fact remains, with him at QB, our offense can move the ball. He’s a leader and he involves the WRs. JC plays scared and doesn’t know what to do in the face of pressure.

    Bottom Line: Grads is our best option right now.

  295. Plunketthead Says:

    All I wanted out of Jason was medicore, middle of the road QB play and I got
    JR – syrup + experiance = Jason Campbell

    I just hope he proves me wrong and becomes the best QB since Plunkett

  296. LA to TheBay Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
    LA to TheBay: looking back, do you think we should have traded Nnamdi & Walrus for Big Ben?

    Tempting, but no. Well, maybe. It’s not as if we use Aso right, anyway.

    Problem is, who would take his place? We’d be in real trouble, unless the front 7 was seriosly bolstered. And I don’t mean two good rookies.

    I mean like Dallas or Pittsburgh good.

  297. Thec07 Says:

    Questions for all you “semi pro” bloggers;
    where is houston ranked against the run?
    where is houston ranked against the pass?
    where does oakland rank against the run?
    where does oakland rank against the pass?

  298. Thec07 Says:

    Which team has the most sacks going into week 4?

  299. mistic1 Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    You have only seen 6 quarters!

    ========================================

    LOL! And it made you want to see more? 6 quarters was enough for the coaches and a majority of the fans, as evidenced by the chants for Bruce. He’s the best option on this team. Get over it!
    =====================================================

    You dont read my post do you? After 6 quarters it was determined that jc doesnt have a firm enough grasp of the system, so he was replaced by grads. After listnening to hue jack im ok with that. This is not the same as saying grads is a better qb! this means that in the interim, for the time being, and at the moment grads gives us a better chance to win. FOR THE LAST TIME, MY POINT IS IN THE LONG RUN CAMPBELL WILL PROVE TO BE BETTER THAN GRADS HERE IN OAKLAND. SIMPLY A MATTER OF LEARNING THE OFFENSE AND THE PLAYERS AROUND HIM. GRADS IS A STOP GAP, A BAND AID, A STUNT DOUBLE, A SECOND BANNANA!

    iM BASING MY ARGUMENT ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN FROM THE 2 QBS OVER THEIR CAREERS, AND NOT THE NEAR SIGHTED SKEWED VIEW OF SIX QUARTERS. REMEMBER ALL OF YOU, IN THE LONG RUN IS WHAT I AM CONCERNED WITH, NOT INSTANT GRATIFICATION. SPEAKING OF INSTANT GRATIFICATION, BRUCE HAS PLAYED POORLY WHILE HE HAS BEEN IN, BE HONEST AND WATCH THE GAMES FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE.

  300. Thec07 Says:

    What team has the worst pass D in the league?

  301. aig-raiders Says:

    Thec,

    I love our D this year and expected them to be a top 5 D. So far I dont think of them as a top 2. They still got much to improve but the ability of the offense to keep drives going has reduced significantly the yards given up by the D.

  302. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Texans have the worst pass Defense in the league Rated 32

  303. DMAC Says:

    Louis Murphy missed Raiders practice Wednesday with an undisclosed injury.
    Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle points out that Murphy missed “a few plays” in the Raiders’ Week 3 loss, and the receiver wasn’t targeted on Oakland’s 11-play drive to end the game. The extent of the injury is unknown, but the emerging fantasy starter should be monitored this week.
    Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter

  304. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Rated No 5 on run d though…

  305. Nnamdi21 Says:

    The only stat that counts is a “W”.

  306. DMAC Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Grads taking chances is both good and bad. He pushes the ball down the field and that netted us some PIs in the last game. He needs to be a bit more careful, though, for sure. We all saw the dropped picks. There’s no denying them. Fact remains, with him at QB, our offense can move the ball. He’s a leader and he involves the WRs. JC plays scared and doesn’t know what to do in the face of pressure.

    Bottom Line: Grads is our best option right now.
    ============
    AMEN!!!

  307. The Big Banana Says:

    You dont read my post do you?

    ===========================================

    Actually, you’re partially correct. I don’t read the CAPS to be honest with you. Caps indicates yelling and hints of desperation to get a point across. No need for it. So, just know, when you go into your all caps tirade, a number of us tune out.

  308. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    Since you are so concerned with the long run and looking at careers, how come you never answered my question on JC’s win loss record in his career?

    Are you too afraid to post the answer, or are you blatantly using selective memory?

  309. Thec07 Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
    Texans have the worst pass Defense in the league Rated 32

    ++++++++

    Looks like we have a winner….

  310. Plunketthead Says:

    Thec

    31
    31
    32
    31

    Raiders 38 Boots 10

  311. The Big Banana Says:

    And I don’t mean 1 word here or there in CAPS. We all do that so don’t twist my words. It’s the all cap paragraphs that are the problem.

  312. priesttj Says:

    You guy’s seem to look at everything he does positive, which is good but I’m telling you he has to play better. I’m not talking about yardage and stats forget that for the moment. Look at what the coaches are asking him to do and what he’s actually doing. We aren’t scoring when we have opportunities.

    Let’s see how he does this Sunday if we score I couldn’t care less about the yardage. I want him to stick the ball in the ENDZONE………..period

    That’s what wins football games not yardage and stats, TD’s win games. The rest is for losers. We struggled to beat the Rams and lost a game that was easily winnable. Due to the fact that he missed wide open recievers. Now Janikowski bailed him out with that miss and takes the pressure off Grads in the eyes of the fans. But in the eyes of the coaches he didn’t deliver when he had the chance.

  313. mistic1 Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Grads taking chances is both good and bad. He pushes the ball down the field and that netted us some PIs in the last game. He needs to be a bit more careful, though, for sure. We all saw the dropped picks. There’s no denying them. Fact remains, with him at QB, our offense can move the ball. He’s a leader and he involves the WRs. JC plays scared and doesn’t know what to do in the face of pressure.

    Bottom Line: Grads is our best option right now.
    ======================================================

    This is only partially true, grads my be the best option now, the coaches said as much. I have no argument against that. However it doesnt matter how careful he is with the football, or how good the decisions he makes are, he doesnt have the accuracy needed to be a quality starter. He will turn the ball over, a quick bit of research will tell you that. He has always had an issue with accuracy in the nfl. You can learn how to make good decisions, you cant learn accuracy, bruce doesnt have it.

  314. Drexl Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    7 years of losing bigtime has only made my Raider blood run faster .
    The bond between Al, the Oakland Raiders and I is like three chains woven as one.
    ——————–
    Excellent point! I could not have said it better. Every fall it is the same thing.

  315. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Plain and simple the whole team needs to play better…The QB is very important but so is his supporting cast…Same thing goes for The defense..Nmandi cant play 11 positions

  316. Plunketthead Says:

    lol thanks Drex

    The bond has the strength of ten bears.
    It is easy to be a fan of a winning team. It takes perseverance, willpower and tenacity to get it up ever week for a team that has been in a losing streak and we will turn this around which will make every win that much sweeter.

    Its tough staying on top and no team does it. They dont usually have the terrible run we have had but they all spend time in the celler.

  317. RaiderDebo Says:

    The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
    September 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
    Mistic, Jason Campbell is one of the dumbest QBs to ever wear a Raider uniform. I’ll take Gradkowski’s marginal talent, his motivation, his pocket presence and understanding of the game. Campbell can throw a ball a hundred yards…what good is it if he’s too stupid to read defenses and get rid of the ball quick?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Pocket presence????? The guy has no pocket presence. How do you explain the strip-sack fumble that could have ended the game? Shouldn’t he have “felt” the guy coming? Lol!

  318. RaiderDebo Says:

    That’s what wins football games not yardage and stats, TD’s win games. The rest is for losers. We struggled to beat the Rams and lost a game that was easily winnable. Due to the fact that he missed wide open recievers. Now Janikowski bailed him out with that miss and takes the pressure off Grads in the eyes of the fans. But in the eyes of the coaches he didn’t deliver when he had the chance.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Damn TJ. This is “best post of the day material”.

  319. ArmChair GM Says:

    Mistic-

    So Drew Brees gave the Saints every reason to lose as well last Sunday,right? After all he threw two interceptions. Not almost interceptions like you keep saying about Bruce. But actual interceptions.

    Even though he drove the team into scoring range at the end just like Bruce did. Evan though N.O’s kicker missed the game winner from point blank range, just like ours did.

    But the blame for the Saints loss should go on Brees and not their kicker because of the two picks that he threw, right? The Saints released the wrong guy right?

    If you say, no then you’re being a hypocrite.

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