Report sheds light Johnson’s ankle
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 1st, 2010 at 6:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Tom Cable said he’s certain Andre Johnson will play Sunday when the Raiders host the Houston Texans.
An AOL Fanhouse report suggests Johnson’s sprained ankle is serious enough to be getting special treatment.
Namely, “platelet-rich plasma therapy.”
Not sure what that is other than what I just read in the above link, or how effective it is.
But if I’m the Texans, it’s Week 4 and I’m playing the Raiders, Johnson is taking the week off.
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October 1st, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Tom, rule #1 of being a head coach. Don’t be concerned about the opposition’s players. Get your own players prepared and ready to dominate for a full sixty minutes. No excuses!
October 1st, 2010 at 6:52 pm
By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
Friday, October 1st, 2010 at 6:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Tom Cable said he’s certain Andre Johnson will play Sunday when the Raiders host the Houston Texans.
An AOL Fanhouse report suggests Johnson’s sprained ankle is serious enough to be getting special treatment.
Namely, “platelet-rich plasma therapy.”
Not sure what that is other than what I just read in the above link, or how effective it is.
But if I’m the Texans, it’s Week 4 and I’m playing the Raiders, Johnson is taking the week off.
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Just because he’s getting voodoo therapy doesn’t mean he won’t play.
October 1st, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Tom, rule #1 of being a head coach. Don’t be concerned about the opposition’s players. Get your own players prepared and ready to dominate for a full sixty minutes. No excuses!
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Cable is doing the right thing by assuming Johnson – their best player – will play and is preparing accordingly.
October 1st, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Remember where assuming falls between in Websters Dictionary
October 1st, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Better to prepare for their best player playing than to not prepare and have him play and beat you.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:05 pm
If he plays he will burn asomugha all day now wen the texans play the broncos the true shut down corner champ bailey will shut him down the way poor nnamdi culdnt evn dream of!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Hey as much as i like to belive the refs give us(the raiders) too much ish..(and they do)..they historicaly and lately have given us calls(last wk)…(wk b4)…we just found a way to lose lol(sucks i no)..but i do have a feeling this game we will have to fight threw about 10 penalties (110yd)…all coming from the left side of our line lol..and maybe from carlisle too.. But sometimes we get into games where the other team gets ALOT of calles up until they way end..lol..you guys know what im talking about..and then we will get a call to give us a shot and making up for 10 B.S. calls prior..except in the playoffs thats when we get dicked over lol..
860Todd Christensen Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Jmack, The only way we got those calls was because they were so blatent, and on film, that in this recession, even NFL Refs could lose their jobs by screwing the Raiders. In past years, they were promoted! Blame the Dem’s…..and that woman from Cali in particular……
October 1st, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Sorry Spartacus, I’m from an old RAIDER era, where we didn’t care who was lining up against us, because we were BIGGER, BETTER and BELIEVED!
October 1st, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Champ shouldn’t you be watching film on your next opponent rather than on a Raiders blog?
October 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
“But if I’m the Texans, it’s Week 4 and I’m playing the Raiders, Johnson is taking the week off.”
….. BUT if it were the Cols, I would expect 15-20 attempts.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Champ is a joke….. Way past his prime go somewhere with that nonsense
October 1st, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Jerry, is this kind of theropy accepted by the NFL? Kind of sounds like Armstrong getting treated for cancer, and is now a doper? Sounds fishy to me, can you break a bigger story on this?
October 1st, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Jambo, I’m from that same era. But don’t forget, those Raider teams worked hard and were always prepared to beat any opponent, including the refs.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
You’re right Spartacus, ahh for the good old days!
October 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Oh my god, an O-Line that almost kills him and no WRs who can get open….Grads is being set up to be murdered!
I hope he looks for the checkdown passes this week.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Ref beating was outlawed in 1970, wife beating is still in use…..
October 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Big B–well…after last sunday i feel like i’ve been tased into a haze…but i’m nothing if not a fully trained, kool-aid drinkin’ Raider loyalist…so i say Raiders 31 Texans 20
October 1st, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Tom, rule #1 of being a head coach. Don’t be concerned about the opposition’s players. Get your own players prepared and ready to dominate for a full sixty minutes. No excuses!
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I dont agree at all. You game plan accordingly.
If you are a defensive coordinator, is your game plan the same for Andre Johnson as it would be for
1. Dorin Dickerson
2. Kevin Walter
3. Jacoby Jones
4. David Anderson
Those are the other active WR on the roster.
Between man, doubles, stunts and zones. This game is all about game planning and preparation for your opponent and their weapons.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Phan, when do we Blitz!
October 1st, 2010 at 7:26 pm
We have film from Steelers 09′ that shows the blitz can be effective, NOTHING has trickled down, MM-34, your days are numbered.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:27 pm
#18 Raiders Phan -405, Fair comment. But when you watch our RAIDERS, does it really look like we have an exceptional game plan or are totally prepared for our opponent on a weekly basis?
October 1st, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Out Guys, 05:00 comes early, East Coast! RAIDERS!
October 1st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Cant run Todd
Why we talkin politics on a raider blog bruh??lol..and why would we blame the dems for recession, they didnt screw us, the man that was in charge of the country for the last decade screwed us…dude.. the raiders are the definition of blue collar brother…were always getting screwed..u know why?? I dont want to get this deep but…yeah..The NFL screws us cuz AL Davis has more balls then all of them..we are the underdogs that can be feared on any given day, we are different, and for that, we are looked down upon..but deep in everyones mind, they all know that one day(now)..when the bully wakes up from its long rest, we find we are strong and can take em all on.. No dont blame the dems, and if you arent making over 200k a year then you shouldnt blame the dems either, in that case u would be the one to blame..we arent like that dude, were not george bush…we are young and crazy, and considering the Oakland Raider fan base is THE MOST ethnicly diverse in THE LEAGUE, then you should re-evaluate what you just said, blaming the dems would be like blaming the raiders in a way…dont be like that bro, we are blue collar, we are tough…not conneticut blue bloods sitting on thrones…(F.Y.I. Bush was sitting with robert craft in the owners box during the tuck rule game laughin and drinkin with his boy…) We are not that, we are rebels bro..
October 1st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Tom’s #1 rule: Backtalk = Back of my fat hand.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:41 pm
If only Tom were allowed to slap some players, then we’d be getting somewhere.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Players who need a slap sometimes:
Branch
Carlisle
Henderson
Meyers(am i the only one who notices that he drops every pass?)
October 1st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Players who need a slap sometimes:
Branch
Carlisle
Henderson
Meyers(am i the only one who notices that he drops every pass?)
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You can add these guys to the list-
MM34
JLH
Sea Bass
October 1st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Jmack, I noticed.
We need to run the ball a lot on Sunday.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Mike Mitchell should be waived.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Yeah i agree with mm34 getting released, he should be. After hearing the reports of coaches wanting to cut em, and keep brown, then davis overuling it, it killed me, mitchell is horrible
October 1st, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Kirk Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Jmack, I noticed.
We need to run the ball a lot on Sunday.
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I have to say that with the poor pass defense that the Texans have I would go after then thru the air. I would almost say use the pass to set up the run not the other way around in this case. DHB will have his breakout game-110 yards and a TD- print that!
October 1st, 2010 at 8:01 pm
then davis overuling it, it killed me, mitchell is horrible
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Big Al and his pride at it’s finest.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:04 pm
HB, I hope you are right about passing.
I do think we are going to win.
We are playing at home, and the Texans will take us lightly.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm
HairyBush i sure hope so man, and i do agree with your philosophy about this game, i would love to see us open it up with the pass….Now is it just me, or is our team designed to play more of a spread type offense…I mean, we can run out of the shot gun very well, we got fast talented receivers, two backs that can catch, a great tight end…When we line up from the shotgun we have succes, but we obviously need to run from under center to keep our play action alive(for miller)..But what you guys think abuot that??
October 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm
We always win a few games that we shouldn’t. I think Sunday will be one of those.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Kirk Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:04 pm
HB, I hope you are right about passing.
I do think we are going to win.
We are playing at home, and the Texans will take us lightly.
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Why do you think they will take us lightly? they pounded us in 3 out of 4 games in our previous meetings. It would be nice if they did, I just don’t see it happening. I read all the smoke coach Kubiak is blowing up the Raiders rear ends. He goes on and on how they are the #2 defense. Anyone who looks deeper at the #’s can see the more important #’s are we give up a lot of points and other teams are 7 for 8 in the red zone. What good is it to stop a team for minimal yards only to let them score on you? I bleed silver and black but I think this has the makings of a typical cable faceplant, and we lose by at least 2 td’s. I hope to be wrong, but if you look at Tom Cable’s history with us he seems to average a blowout (for the other team) around every 3 games. Here’s to hoping the Raiders come out with a fire lit underneath them!
October 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Just left Kincaid’s…….JC waas there with someone who looked like his mother. I gave him a vote of confidence and said he will be starting again. Humble guy said THANK YOU
October 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Platlet rich plasma treatment is an attempt to spend up the healing of an injured joint. You donate about 30 cc of your blood (few tubes there) and the blood is spun to separate out the platelets. Then the platelets are “mashed” to open them up. The idea is the products from the platelets contain goodies that will help the joint heal faster. The mashed platelets are then injected into the joint. The verdict is out how effective this is, but getting really popular for athletes who need to heal fast. Tiger used it.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:14 pm
I’m sure he will…in the UFL.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Damnit campbell, i wish to go along with you quire boy personality you had confidence in yourself and didnt throw 18 checkdowns a game… Jacheckdown lolol..sorry i had to, knowing these blogs thats probly already been invented..
October 1st, 2010 at 8:16 pm
qodrn Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Platlet rich plasma treatment is an attempt to spend up the healing of an injured joint. You donate about 30 cc of your blood (few tubes there) and the blood is spun to separate out the platelets. Then the platelets are “mashed” to open them up. The idea is the products from the platelets contain goodies that will help the joint heal faster. The mashed platelets are then injected into the joint. The verdict is out how effective this is, but getting really popular for athletes who need to heal fast. Tiger used it.
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Sounds like something Michael Jackson would do. And he turned out just fine.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:16 pm
When we line up from the shotgun we have succes, but we obviously need to run from under center to keep our play action alive(for miller)..But what you guys think abuot that??
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I think most importantly we have to hope Grads makes good decisions with the ball. I am a Grads supporter and love his fire, but I must have said to myself 5 times last Sunday, WOW that should have been intercepted. I understand he likes to play on the edge but some of the throws were definetley quesionable. That being said I will still take Grads as starter over the other options, I also respect the fact that he tries to get the wideouts involved and is not afraid to throw the ball deep. I would like to see more bootlegs and plays where he can use his mobility-just sayin
October 1st, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Just left Kincaid’s…….JC waas there with someone who looked like his mother. I gave him a vote of confidence and said he will be starting again. Humble guy said THANK YOU
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Will he be starting because Grads is injured, or just falls apart and plays poorly? (I’m going with Grads getting injured by week 7 or 8
October 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Just left Kincaid’s…….JC waas there with someone who looked like his mother. I gave him a vote of confidence and said he will be starting again. Humble guy said THANK YOU
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BTW that was his girlfriend, apperently she isn’t much to look at but does other things to compensate.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:22 pm
damnit deep down i want campbell to rise up men, i think that hit he took againts san fran shook him up, he looked good in the opeing drive against St.louis, just lost rhythem..but right now grads is our guy and ill ride or die with him…
October 1st, 2010 at 8:23 pm
The offensive line should improve when Gallery returns and Loper is moved to right guard in place of Carlisle.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:24 pm
I really hope that exact move happens on the O-line..i like loper..
October 1st, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:23 pm
The offensive line should improve when Gallery returns and Loper is moved to right guard in place of Carlisle.
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I agree, I just hope that is soon! Gallery has done a great job with his DMAC impression and missing way to many games.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Wouldn’t surprise me if these injections caused the infection in Bond’s knee and I believe Tiger had this issue as well.
I think the Raides will win Sunday. they should lose.
But I think they will win.
Hurray the state has a budget. it will be passed on thursday.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:22 pm
damnit deep down i want campbell to rise up men
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I thought when we signed him he had something to prove and would have some fire. I’m waiting to see it, we know that he does have talent inside of him. Hopefully he finds his voice and does his thing sooner rather than later. We should be fortunate we have Grads as backup and not Andrew Walter, Culpepper or any of the other scrubs we have been trotting on the field as QB impersonators.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:30 pm
whats the over/under on how many unwarranted flags we will get? i have guard duty so i’m dvr’ing the game but i’d guess out of the 11 flags that will be called…6 will be real…all false starts to the right side
October 1st, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I’ve got nothing against JC perosnally, but Grads has the fearlessness we need right now.
I’ll concede he takes chances, but look at it this way: consider the analogy of a shortstop with a .999 fielding percentage that has absolutely no range and never risks a throw for the tough double play or throw to first. Looks great on paper, but will never even attempt the difficult or spectacular play that might win a game.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:32 pm
bboyink Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:30 pm
whats the over/under on how many unwarranted flags we will get? i have guard duty so i’m dvr’ing the game but i’d guess out of the 11 flags that will be called…6 will be real…all false starts to the right side
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add in a delay of game and 2 P.I. calls on someone not named Nnamdi
October 1st, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Throw in a couple illegal blocks on kick returns.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:35 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I’ve got nothing against JC perosnally, but Grads has the fearlessness we need right now.
I’ll concede he takes chances, but look at it this way: consider the analogy of a shortstop with a .999 fielding percentage that has absolutely no range and never risks a throw for the tough double play or throw to first. Looks great on paper, but will never even attempt the difficult or spectacular play that might win a game.
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well said, Sometimes it’s tough to watch because it’s a roller coaster ride. At least there can be some nice reward to the risk he brings to the table. Love the desire to win he has and the spark. Hope he doesn’t lose it now that he’s starting.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:38 pm
HB, I think Grads was a little too anxious to please last week. I think he will play with a little more composure on Sunday.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
# CHAMP24 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 7:05 pm
If he plays he will burn asomugha all day now wen the texans play the broncos the true shut down corner champ bailey will shut him down the way poor nnamdi culdnt evn dream of!!!!
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go back to your own chatroom dick lips.Whos champ bailey he has not done a thing in years.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:41 pm
he works to hard to lose it i think HB..He really is like a gannon type in my opinion, gannon made check downs look pretty cuz he knew the exact time to throw em, if he saw a check down guy open on his first read he would hit him, and hell, now we got guys like bush and DMAC not to mention reece…grad could do some of that, but my boy loves going down field lol..hes got some davis in him..
October 1st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:38 pm
HB, I think Grads was a little too anxious to please last week. I think he will play with a little more composure on Sunday.
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I hope so, I’m sure the fans (all 13 that are at the game haha) will be behind him. He is the type of guy that will feed off the energy of the crowd. Who was he trying to please? It looked to me like Al Davis because he threw to DHB a LOT of times, sometimes ill advised throws.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Gotta love Raiderfan…. Raving about and pinning hopes on Bruce Gradkowski. LOL! BRUCE GRADKOWSKI!! and whining about penalties. Classic.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Now Raiderfan is putting Gradkowski in Gannons class and touting Mike Bush and Marcel f’n Reece. LOL!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:41 pm
he works to hard to lose it i think HB..He really is like a gannon type in my opinion, gannon made check downs look pretty cuz he knew the exact time to throw em, if he saw a check down guy open on his first read he would hit him, and hell, now we got guys like bush and DMAC not to mention reece…grad could do some of that, but my boy loves going down field lol..hes got some davis in him..
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If he turned into Gannon or close for that matter the Raiders will have a minimum 10 wins a year as long as he is healthy. (add in 2 new lineman for the full transformation of the Raiders) 1 being Logan Mankins.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
whats up with you dude?? why are u a b*tch boy always hating on ppl?? Why is it funny to like grad? cuz hes not 6,4? lol, cant throw 80 yards from one knee? Or do you not like that hes in the film room 24/7? Or that hes all about working to get better? ur a clown bro..
October 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm
i said hes a guy whos in the film room alot, similar to gannon..lol punk
October 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm
then i went along to say grads doesnt check it down like gannon does, do ur HW jadouchebag
October 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Gradkowski is a freakn journeyman BACKUP nfl QB. Period. Nothing more, nothing less. Your a complete moron if you claim hes anything more.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Dude, did somebody just steal your car?
October 1st, 2010 at 8:49 pm
If Gradkowski did ANYTHING like Gannon he wouldnt be pictured in the Websters dictionary under the word “journeyman”.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Spartacus,
Did someone steal your brain?
October 1st, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Bring back James Trapp, Dan Land, Torin Dorn and James Jett! lol
October 1st, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Gannon was a back up Journeyman QB his whole career who never got a shot until the final 5 years of his career, ended up winning the afc west twice, A conferance chip, and and MVP… You are a moron…
October 1st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Yeah, I am aware of Gannons career achievements. Thanks for the history lesson. Whats that got to do with Bruce Gradkowski?
October 1st, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Your hangin your hat on Bruce Gradkowski and IM the moron? LOL! Ok.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski failed tryouts with Houston Texans
October 1 Oakland Tribune “Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski’s search for a home in the NFL took him from Tampa Bay to Cleveland and St. Louis before he arrived in Oakland early last year. Along the way, he attempted to hook on with the Houston Texans team that comes to Oakland on Sunday.
Twice in 2008 Gradkowski worked out for the Texans. The Texans opted the first time to stick with Matt Schaub and Sage Rosenfels. Gradkowski suffered an injury during his second workout and wasn’t offered a contract.
“That was a rough year for me,” Gradkowski said. “Now I’m back on track and excited to go into this game.”
A few months later, Gradkowski was signed by the Raiders and worked his way into the starting lineup last season and, again, this season. The Texans ultimately signed Craig Nall.
“Every time he has gotten a chance, whether with Gruden (Jon, former Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach) or now (the Raiders), he’s done some good things,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. “The fact that he can move around and make plays off schedule is something everybody in this league hopes they have in a quarterback. He’s definitely got that. I’m very impressed with the job he’s done
October 1st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Rich Gannon’s record as starter:
MIN 19-16
Was 1-3
KC 6-3
OAK 45-26
October 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Dude, who would you rather have has QB..lol..retard..
ok..Jamarcus Russel(first overall pick)or Grad
ok lets see how dumb he is lol…Ok Daunte Culpepper or Grad?
ok now..Arron Brooks or grad
ok wait im not done(jason campbell or grad)..
All of the mentioned are or once were considered STARTING QBS in the national football league, and i could safely say Grad is better then them all at this point… But since hes a journeymen…Hes not?? Enlighten me..
October 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm
fat kidd Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski failed tryouts with Houston Texans
October 1 Oakland Tribune “Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski’s search for a home in the NFL took him from Tampa Bay to Cleveland and St. Louis before he arrived in Oakland early last year. Along the way, he attempted to hook on with the Houston Texans team that comes to Oakland on Sunday.
Twice in 2008 Gradkowski worked out for the Texans. The Texans opted the first time to stick with Matt Schaub and Sage Rosenfels. Gradkowski suffered an injury during his second workout and wasn’t offered a contract.
“That was a rough year for me,” Gradkowski said. “Now I’m back on track and excited to go into this game.”
A few months later, Gradkowski was signed by the Raiders and worked his way into the starting lineup last season and, again, this season. The Texans ultimately signed Craig Nall.
“Every time he has gotten a chance, whether with Gruden (Jon, former Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach) or now (the Raiders), he’s done some good things,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. “The fact that he can move around and make plays off schedule is something everybody in this league hopes they have in a quarterback. He’s definitely got that. I’m very impressed with the job he’s done
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And?
October 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Dude,
Brain is accounted for and functioning properly. You do know that ad hominen attacks are a form of fallacious argumentation, don’t you? It’s the last resort of someone who has lost the argument. And calling Bruce a journeyman because some hack sportswriters refer to him as such is another logical fallacy.
Think for yourself young man.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Been reading this blog for 2 years and saying very little……
Finally…..at long last……he gets one right!
“Dude Says:……IM the moron”
October 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Dude Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Yeah, I am aware of Gannons career achievements. Thanks for the history lesson. Whats that got to do with Bruce Gradkowski?
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That Gannon was once considered a journeymen QB from idiots like you and then got a real shot, went 8-8, then started winning division titles etc.. Your rediculous dude just stop..lol..your killin urself..IN CONCLUSION GANNON(journeymen) GRAD(journeymen) cant call us dumb for likeing grad just cuz hes a “journeymen”..Bcuz AGAIN(YOU clown) gannon (our fav) was once considered the same thing…STOP TALKING
October 1st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
did i dumby it down enough lol…wow
October 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm
If Raiders lose Sunday, how many more games until John Goodman get’s the axe?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Difference between Gannon and Gradkowski…..Gannon had talent.
Saying Gradkowski is better than the recent Raider QBs is like saying cow crap smells better than dog crap.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Its like when cable was callin plays for jamarcus..Ok umm..singleback, wing trips, uhhh, 999 all go.
Next play, uhhh i form…zone right..
next play, uhhh i form…PA try and hit miller in the middle
October 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Oh, yeah. Compare Campbell, Cullpepper, Brooks’s career numbers to Gradkowski and see where he stacks up. Heres a hint…. he comes in 4th.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Gannon’s talent didn’t manifest itself until he came to Raiders – in his early 30’s. Prior to that, it didn’t matter what manner of feces he was.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Go ahead and throw Russell in there and you can move your boy down to 5th. But hey….thanks for playin! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Whos to say Grad dosnt have talent…he can make throws, he cant throw a 65 yard ball on a frozen rope like J-russ but he makes up for it with timing and anticipation, obvious gannon had a better build, but u cant call us dumb for rooting for grad, the guy who beat teams like cinci and pitt(and shoulda beat the chiefs if dhb didnt drop ball into db’s hands)…all the other guys couldnt do anything, gradkowski is like comparing jeff garcia to ryan leaf(leaf being walter,brooks,culpepper, mccown etc..) ur beat
October 1st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Dude Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Difference between Gannon and Gradkowski…..Gannon had talent.
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It would be fair to say that if someone like….say Grads for instance was a “student” of the game and stayed with the same team and worked on his chemistry with young recievers as well as being a “gym rat”, it would not be out of the realm of possibilty that he could potentially be a QB who makes it work with what he does has . Even if he isn’t blessed with a Jameatloaf cannon arm. When it is all said and done if Grads does enough to win some games and remain the stater there is potential for him to evolve just like DHB and the rest of the team. Am I saying this is going to happen? not neccasarily. but to put someone down because they are hopeful of what could be is less than intelligent.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
yeah lol ur so beat lol, cuz grad hasnt even started 8 games for us yet dumby, all of your arguments make zero sence, u have the reasoning of a child lol..
October 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm
ahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah OMG…post 89. lololol DUUUUDEEEEE…your so wierd man
October 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm
*have
October 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm
every one knows your beat lol
October 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I think it’s very premature to say that Grads is better than Campbell. So far he is performing in this offense much better but to say he’s a better player overall is at this point unfair. Grads is still learning and growing he has a penchant for very serious mistakes. He plays the game a bit too error prone for my taste.
Campbell has shown in his career that he can be very productive and he’s very good in the redzone over his career. IMO he just needs to get comfortable in this system and on this team. Time will tell if he or Grads is the longterm answer.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
DUDE, are you even a raider fan?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:17 pm
answer a few ??s for me then tough guy.
1) How many teams has Gradkowski been on?
2) How many times has he started the year as the number 1?
3) How many TDs does he have in his career?
4) How many wins?
5 How many Pro Bowls?
6) How many times has he been cut?
Just give me one word answers for all 6 questions.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Priest, read my post #53. Reasonable people can disagree without being disagreeable.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Your argument is weak..at this point in his career..at age 27, answer me thoughs 6 questions about rich gannon
October 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm
CHAMP24 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 7:05 pm
If he plays he will burn asomugha all day now wen the texans play the broncos the true shut down corner champ bailey will shut him down the way poor nnamdi culdnt evn dream of!!!!
um last 3 games vs texans andre johnson vs nnam 2 catches for 33 yards. do you even research this stuff before you post? it makes you look like an idiot. but should i expect anything different from a broncos fan?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm
or about kurt warner…
October 1st, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Waiting……….
October 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm
me too…
October 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
I will happily oblige after you answer the questions posed to you.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:25 pm
priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I think it’s very premature to say that Grads is better than Campbell. So far he is performing in this offense much better but to say he’s a better player overall is at this point unfair. Grads is still learning and growing he has a penchant for very serious mistakes. He plays the game a bit too error prone for my taste.
Campbell has shown in his career that he can be very productive and he’s very good in the redzone over his career. IMO he just needs to get comfortable in this system and on this team. Time will tell if he or Grads is the longterm answer.
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Is Campbell the more gifted athlete? Probaly. That being said my question is how long do we wait? I genuinely feel the Raiders need to do whatever they can to get some wins now. Some may say to see the big picture and I respect that. I definetley see the big picture and I am smart enough to know that if you put together a winning program other things start to fall into place, like signing good free agents and not having to overpay for them. Players will actually want to come here. I can give several more examples of what winning now would do for this franchise but I’m sure you get the point. My Question is how long do you want to wait for Campbell or anyone for that matter to get this thing turned around? If Grads wins games as much as he sends my blood pressure thru the roof with his up and down play I say stick with him. As a Raider fan I just want to see a W at the end of the day!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:27 pm
i wont answer questions that arent relevent to the actual issue that is being discussed..how many starts, or how many teams or pro bowls does not apply to a player who hasnt been a constant starter his whole career.. Those are dumb questions..and are not relevent to bruce gradkowski and more importantly US FANS right now…
October 1st, 2010 at 9:27 pm
By the way, your boy has more pics than TDs in his career.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Yep, thats kind of what I thought. Good effort tho bro. LOL!!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
yeah and most of thoughs stats came from his rookie year in tampa were he started most of the games that you see on his all time record…i didnt need effort to reply to your translucent stupid questions..
October 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Gannon played for 4 teams in 17 years. Grads already has plyed for 5. LOL!! NEXT!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Oh man this is fun….. where are the regulars??? At least they pose a challenge.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Gradkowski couldnt even stick with the Browns!! LOL!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Dude Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Gannon played for 4 teams in 17 years. Grads already has plyed for 5. LOL!! NEXT!
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bucs,browns,rams,raiders, who was the 5th?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:35 pm
obviously your goal is to point out every last bit of information that would prove me wrong, and proving gradkowski is cowpoo, but YOU, cant judje a players skill set from a bunch of years that have no pertinance to the argument, “”"Is gradkwoski good enough for the oakland raider fans to place hope into right now..and judging from his play WITH US in the past..THEN YES, he is good enuogh right now cuz he proved he can beat good teams with OUR TEAM, NOT THE BUCS OR RAMS OR BROWNS… Thats the issue, and i think more people then not take my side in that argument RIGHT NOW…
October 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Texans
October 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Thanks for playin. Back to the minors junior.
PS- Love, love, love a guy who refers to the team as “us”. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm
And dude gannon played for 5 teams Patriots(who drafted him), Vikings, Redskins, Cheifs Raiders… Preseason counts dudett..
October 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Howd he do vs the Super Bowl bound Arizona Cards???
October 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
NEVER PLAYED FOR TEXANS LOL HAHAHA WOWWWWW..he worked out for them retard.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Dude Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Texans
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he tried out for the Texans, nothing more
October 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
so wait gannon 5 teams…aaaannndddd grad 4
October 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Bro you never even made it to the minors lol, ur like the half retarded guy that sends in tapes of his 4th grade bball team and still lives with his mom at age 30..and is so intent on proving everybody else wrong cuz u have no friends..lol..and yeah i do refer to the raiders OUR TEAM, has us, cuz im a fan..
October 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Tried out and didnt make it?? OK. thats a plus for him! LOL!!!!!
So he would have played for the Texans but he couldnt
make the cut. Ok. Got it. My bad.
“Hey man, he never played for the Texans bro. He tried out but couldnt make the cut. Take that dude!” LOL!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Listen if Grads continues to get better and win games who wouldn’t want him for the starter. I think what peple are saying for the thousandth time. Is can he continue to win games? if he takes chances with the football like he did vs the Cards I can gaurantee you the answer to that is NO!!
Hrads has to learn and play better, if he does he has a real chance of keeping that job. But the way he played vs AZ wont cut it longterm in fact I doubt he”l keep the starting job more than a couple of weeks. It’s up to him to get better or he’ll get benched………….period
October 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Oh yeah, Gannon never played a pre season down for the Pats…
October 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Dude Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Howd he do vs the Super Bowl bound Arizona Cards???
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Why the Raiders lost to the Cards
1)Special Teams, Jano 3 misses & 102 yard K.O. return TD
2) penalties
3) questionable play calling
Grads did not make or break that game, he made plays when he had to and put his team in a position to win. It’s not his fault that his polish counterpart decided to stand around on the sideline like a useless mule instead of practicing on the sideline for what would have been a game winning kick.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Did he win?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Agreed Priestt, but, would we even be bringing that up if janikowski makes the FG. Ill admit he didnt play his best and i was gettin pretty pissed myself during the game, but on the final drive when it counted most, he delivered(3@9 and 4@10 converted) and got us in FG range(and if there is no PASS-INTERFERANCE on DHB that could have been a TD, that DB literally saved the game)..but ill take a guy who plays shaky and conducts game winning drives all day, just like he did against cincy last year and just like he did against PITT Both way better teams that the ZONA team we played last week..riddle me that
October 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm
He was drafted by them and was on their official roster HE WAS ON THAT TEAM..
October 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
I must have missed the answer…. Gradkowski beat the Cards??
October 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
# CHAMP24 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 7:05 pm
If he plays he will burn asomugha all day now wen the texans play the broncos the true shut down corner champ bailey will shut him down the way poor nnamdi culdnt evn dream of!!!!
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Chimp 24 and Chump Bailey sounds more appropriate to me.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
He was NEVER on their roster.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
His rights were traded before he even signed a contract.But why let facts get in the way of a good story, right?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Grads was trying too hard last week, that’s all. He was too geeked up and trying to be the hero on every play.
But he’s a stand up guy.
I like Jason Campbell as a person. He’s a humble, personable, stand up guy too.
I wish the best for both of our QB’s as individuals.
When Campbell gets his shot again, hopefully he sees the kind of energy and on the field leadership that is needed to become a consistent winner.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm
# Dude Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
He was NEVER on their roster.
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Are you a Raider fan? If not who do you root for? Seriously, I’m just asking.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
that MUST have been it Armchair
October 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Naw, i have a life i didnt research that in the last 5 minutes to get my jollies off, u were wrong about grad being on the texans chimp, same deal..saying grads finsishes his carrer with us as back up or starter, thats still 4 teams each for gannon and him, once grad gets traded or signed by anothet team you can ay you won the argument..
October 1st, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Raider fan. Not Raider kool aid guzzler’
October 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Yeah I know…Grads never played for the Texans. He wasnt good enough to make the club. He was for all intents and purposes cut.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm
hahah..u claim to be a fan but i have yet to hear you say one strategic/hopeful/rational thought, that a fan would contribute to a blog of indeed his favorite team..do you have anything to say but negatives? Cuz if you dont your not a real fan…
October 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Listen if Grads continues to get better and win games who wouldn’t want him for the starter. I think what peple are saying for the thousandth time. Is can he continue to win games? if he takes chances with the football like he did vs the Cards I can gaurantee you the answer to that is NO!!
Hrads has to learn and play better, if he does he has a real chance of keeping that job. But the way he played vs AZ wont cut it longterm in fact I doubt he”l keep the starting job more than a couple of weeks. It’s up to him to get better or he’ll get benched………….period
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I agree that I want more out of him as far as consistancy and overall decisions. BUT, at this point I’ll take my chances with the guy who seems like he is really giving his all out there and wants to win, as opposed to the guy who checksdown enough to not lose but not win either. Think about it, a guy who plays on the edge will lose some games for you, but I believe he will win more than lose in the long run. It’s a long season, let’s see how this plays out. As I said before I just want a W at the end of the day. If for some crazy reason J. Campbell comes out like a madman lighting it up, great. I say he should have been fired up in week 1 of all games, instead he looked like a zombie. How can you argue with that? It’s not like it was week 10 and the Raiders were out of the playoff hunt and he was beat to a pulp, what’s his excuse for being so lifeless?. The reality is it was week 1, how do you not get pumped for a season opener for your new team. Don’t you want to prove people wrong among other things? I challenge you to give a logical arguement defending Campbell’s lack of inspiration to say the least. Humor me please. Like I said If your not up for week 1, well I don’t know what to say. His actions or lack thereof spoke volumes.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Gannon didnt stay with the patriots cuz they wanted to convert him to a DB, so i guess that makes him bad too? Maybe grad was cut cuz he didnt fit kubiaks system? Do you know that has well?
October 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
or im sorry *not signed
October 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Funny hearing a guy who thinks Grads is the second coming of Rich Gannon using the word “rational”. LOL!!
October 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Trust me my friend even if we were to win that game Grads would be under scrutiny by astute fans and coaches because the game shouldn’t have been close. In fact I think Seabass saved his butt by not making that kick and bringing the focus on him instead of Grads.
Coaches do not overlook the mistakes he was making even if he wins. Because they know he’s not performing well. He cannot play like that and continue to win games. No more than someone that runs into the street in traffic constantly will eventually get hit. He has to play better………period
October 1st, 2010 at 10:04 pm
*with
October 1st, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Now having said that I think Gradkowski will play much better this week. He knows that the coaches were not happy with his play. Wether the fans and the media realize it or not, you can bet the coaches had a long conversation with him on being more careful with the football.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Dude, find the post were i specificly said that “grads was the next coming of rich gannon” and i will admit im wrong and that your the smartes football analysist ever, ok?
Or you could find the post were i said grads is like a gannon type comparing their film study habits..
October 1st, 2010 at 10:08 pm
i remember reading stevie brown tried out for NE, did he sign?
October 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Youve used Gannon as a comparison during your whole argument. Dont try and slink out of it now that youve gotten f’n detroyed. Thats what a beetch would do. Well, if the shoe fits……
October 1st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Priestt, Seabass saving grads but?? wouldnt you think a Raider win would bring a good focus on the team and grads? we would be 2-1 and instead of talkin 2-2 we wuld be talking a possible 3-1..and that would bring up negative talk of gradkowski??Isnt our team modo JUST WIN BABY, ill take the “w” buddy.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
“we” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Just win baby??? Thats the team “modo”??
October 1st, 2010 at 10:13 pm
I compared gannon to grad throughout the argument because you labeled grads a “journeyman” and i said that so was “gannon”..Bringing up points of gannon throguhout his carreer to draw comparisons between the 2 “journeyman qbs”..Ultimatly tryin to say, if gannon was a successful journeymen, why couldnt grads be?? In your argument you were ultimatly writing off the fact(in your words and tone of writing) that a journeymen QB was not a solution for a team, i said look at gannon, gannon proves your argument wrong that a journeyman qb isnt worth cowcrap..
October 1st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Hairybush
My god man this stuff has been beat to death, why do you bring up Jason Campbell lack of performance as an excuse for Grads problems. It was obvious to everyone that Campbell looked very confused and lethargic he needed to sit and watch. While that is true what does that have to do with Grads?
I think Campbell was way under par, but I also think he can play much better than what we saw week1. In fact I know he can I’ve seen enough of him to know that he’s a much btter player than that.
That still doesn’t have a thing to do with what Gradkowski is doing. I’m talking about gradkowski being or not being a longterm answer. Either he is or he isn’t…………period
October 1st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Glutten for Punishment Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 10:08 pm
i remember reading stevie brown tried out for NE, did he sign?———————————————————————-
He’s back on the Raiders bro, 53 man roster.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
and yes i beleive Just Win baby is our modo…am i wrong?
October 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
sweet!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Translation…. I just got beetch slapt so now I am gonna try and act like I wasnt REALLY saying what I was saying.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
I also agree that sitting and watching will be better for campbell(being the mature proffesional he is), if he can learn this system he has the tools to be a better starter(only thing that makes me partial to grads is that quick release, which i think is an overlooked attribute in the league) and campbell really does not, in a perfect world where we have a probowl offensive line without a doubt campbells the guy, but grads skillset fits our o-line plain n simple, (i know beating a dead horse but its ture)
October 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
1) What the f is a “modo”?
2) Hows that “modo” workn out say the last 8 years???
October 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Thats your translation lol, look at the conversation if you want..
October 1st, 2010 at 10:20 pm
You game plan for him anyway.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:22 pm
and idk about 8 years but i know we were in the superbowl 7 years ago with an old old team, maybe, they all retired…and then…and then we started trying to rebuild with more older players…and then we realized that wasnt working..and then we starting building through the draft..and then..and then jamarcus happened…and yeah now were here..stop crying.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Only a true idiot would try and use a “MOTTO” like “Just win baby” while the team is in the midst of an all time streak of LOSING.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Hairybush
My god man this stuff has been beat to death, why do you bring up Jason Campbell lack of performance as an excuse for Grads problems. It was obvious to everyone that Campbell looked very confused and lethargic he needed to sit and watch. While that is true what does that have to do with Grads?
I think Campbell was way under par, but I also think he can play much better than what we saw week1. In fact I know he can I’ve seen enough of him to know that he’s a much btter player than that.
That still doesn’t have a thing to do with what Gradkowski is doing. I’m talking about gradkowski being or not being a longterm answer. Either he is or he isn’t…………period
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It has everything to do with Grads to put it simply. The fact is I would rather see some energy on the field.
I didn’t say grads was the long term answer. What I did say is if Campbell can’t get hyped and ready to play for the season opener of all games, where do you go from there? being a realist Grads may not be our 10 year starter but he is what the Raiders need right now, which is life. You really haven’t answered my question, What excuse can you make for Campbell? It’s understandable to not know some plays but why no energy? I have watched him in Washington and yes he can be half way decent at times but, Is he a leader of men? Can he Inspire? Is he driven? Maybe if he worked in another job his internal motivation or confidence would be fine, it probaly won’t cut it in the NFL. I am a Raider fan and If I were wrong I would immedietly man up and admit where I was wrong. I just see this dragging on and not going anywhere. agree to disagree
October 1st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
And then….. and then…..and then…… LMFAO!!!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Gannon came to Oakland at the perfect time. He had the right coaches, the right system and the right players to match his skill set.
Having said that, give Gradkowski 3 Pro Bowl offensive linemen (Barrett Robbins, Lincoln Kennedy, Steve Wisniewski) and two HOF caliber Wide Receivers (Tim Brown and Jerry Rice) and I’m sure he would turn alot more heads too.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Just Win Baby!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats my “MODO”.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
dude stop living in the past man…who cares, we are lving in the yr 2010, and we are 1-2…its not wk 13 of the last 5 years and we are 3-9 and tryin to figure out who we are drafting…ur so soft
October 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I just want a QB who’s a quality competent player. I’m not interested in a guy who’s better for bad Olines but can’t play at a high level on a consistent basis. Cause what your telling me is that he’s fleet of foot if nothing else. Campbell is a mobile QB whe he’s comfortable. I wnat the guy wether it’s Boller and no one talks about him. I want a guy solid guy who can lead this team longterm. The Oline will take care of itself get me a QB that i can count on.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
I also agree that sitting and watching will be better for campbell(being the mature proffesional he is), if he can learn this system he has the tools to be a better starter(only thing that makes me partial to grads is that quick release, which i think is an overlooked attribute in the league) and campbell really does not, in a perfect world where we have a probowl offensive line without a doubt campbells the guy, but grads skillset fits our o-line plain n simple, (i know beating a dead horse but its ture)
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His release ain’t that quick.
The intangible with Grads is he makes players better. More focused and eager to compete.
He blew some key reads and missed some throws that could’ve changed the game last week.
Not surprising.
He missed alot of last year with knee injuries and this off seasons camp with a torn pec.
Hardly worked with the wides at all and suprised it dodn’t show more than it did.
Oakland probably won’t be able to run the ball as well this week end.
Houston’s got the LBs with or with out R.O.Y.d boy.
Grads will likely need to move the ball thru the air WITHOUT his top 2 WRs.
DMC has an opportunity to prove he’s a multiple threat in the beig Leages like he was in college.
If I was Hue Jackson, I’d unleash him.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Ummmm……what?? Come on home boy. I know your not a brain surgeon, but for all our sakes, at least READ your posts before hitting submit.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Yeah excellent point by ArmChair…
October 1st, 2010 at 10:28 pm
As a long time fan I think it’s cool u guys are predicting Raider win and that u actually believe they’ll win 7 or 8 games this year, but i just don’t see it. I have grown weary of wishing, hoping, and getting excited about the possibility of Oakland becoming something more than just the NFL’s favorite punchline. I’m just tired of all the false hope.
C’mon guys. We don’t even have any receivers. The guys starting are guys that won’t even be able to run proper routes for lack of real game action. There will be no chemistry between Grads and the WR’s and u can only go to Miller so often. Then, it’s on to SanDiego, who we NEVER defeat.
I wish I could believe something different like u guys, but the problem is they actually do have to play the games; and when it comes to that, all the Raiders do is find a way to lose. Sometimes big, sometimes cuz they choke at the end, but the end is always the same.
It pains me to see the Raider Nation, with such loyal fans, have to endure this torture. That being said, I don’t see Oakland winning another game this year.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
That being said, I don’t see Oakland winning another game this year.
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on that note, night to all
October 1st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
u just fail to adapt bro, ur under the impression that we are already 5-11, and i dont blame you, weak minded people have a way of doing that from time to time. U just have a loser attitude, let me guess you have never played orginized sports in your life?(obvious lie coming up from dude)..
October 1st, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Full ride for football to Eastern Washington University. Nice try though…..
The Raiders arent 5-11…..yet. This is a 5 or 6 win team.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:36 pm
The reason I come here anymore is because of some faint hope that I will see something major has happened; such as Al Davis dying, or deciding to hire someone who knows what they are doing that might nake us something resembling a real franchise. I come hoping to see a headline saying “Cable fired! Quality NFL coach hired who vows to rebuild Raiders quickly” Or just ANYTHING that might give me REAL hope that they will actually WIN, and maybe (god forbid) have a respectable record.
I have lost all hope. I’m just venting. I know I’m just talking to myself, but in some weird way it’s cathartic.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:40 pm
nice lie though….i wont though, i was the 4th string qb who held the clipboard in highschool, i wasnt big or fast enough to run the option so there was no spot to play, now i go to temple university and play in a few 7 on 7 full contact leagues as QB. Never had a full ride..saying that this is a 5 to 6 win team is very possible, judging by years past you have all the evidence in the world to prove your point. I on the other hand think this could be a turning point for our team, 1. we have a qb who is better then J-RUSS(all i ask for is a guy who puts in his film work and practices, and we got it) and a solid surrounding cast..im not giving up this early..good nigth fellas, after the 1 win comment i really must leave..nice argument Dude, i expect to read more from you, since im going to sleep i guess you could say you win..good job buddy..
October 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
ArmChair I am not interested in providing you or anyone else with an excuse for Campbell. That’s Campbell issue. If he can’t get it done I don’t want him here……….period
I am not Jason Campbell’s Lawyer I’m a Raider loking for a quality QB be it Grads, Campbell or Boller or someone else. That’s my point why do you insist that I defend Campbell?? I didn’t like what is I saw from him that’s all that matters
October 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
My “lie” is easily proved.
Solis surrounding cast?? Okayyyyyyyyyyy
October 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Kind of humorous watching the flaky back and forth.
When the discussion is what could happen? It’s us, or we.
When it’s about the bad play? it’s they, or the Raiders.
al davis was asked, back in the early 80’s about “some fans are really upset your moving their team”
al’s reply “it’s not their team, it’s my team”
just in case some of you were wondering
October 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm
I’m sorry my last post should’ve been directed to Hairybush.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:56 pm
priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
ArmChair I am not interested in providing you or anyone else with an excuse for Campbell. That’s Campbell issue. If he can’t get it done I don’t want him here……….period
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Priest I don’t recall putting you in a position to feel like you have to defend Campbell. All I said was that he was a stand up guy and seemed like a really decent person.
I’m not sure what post of mine you’re referring to.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:57 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm
I’m sorry my last post should’ve been directed to Hairybush.
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Lol, it’s all good Priest.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:04 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
ArmChair I am not interested in providing you or anyone else with an excuse for Campbell. That’s Campbell issue. If he can’t get it done I don’t want him here……….period
I am not Jason Campbell’s Lawyer I’m a Raider loking for a quality QB be it Grads, Campbell or Boller or someone else. That’s my point why do you insist that I defend Campbell?? I didn’t like what is I saw from him that’s all that matters
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Probably because you despise Grads?
October 1st, 2010 at 11:38 pm
We do have a much better team than we had last year. It should(ul) mean more wins, but the game in Arizona shows that even if we have better stats we still will find a way to lose or not take advantage of it.
I mean our offense is 2X better this year practically and our defense is definitely improved.
We SHOULD be able to win 8 games, but there is someone/something in the Organization that actively suppresses the players. And I don’t think it’s Al Davis…it’s someone whispering in his ear. (John Herrera? He came back in the early 80’s with a greater role the teams basically have sucked since except for the Gruden years).
Also, I’ve never seen a team with more key injuries or mistakes than ours. I mean Nmadi is the only one who has been pretty much injury free that is a descent player. Chaz looks good…gets injured. Once Dmac starts playing well….ouch. Gallery finally last year starts playing well….hurt.
Henderson plays a good game….then can’t play the next. Semour almost always hurt here (but never was in NE). Look at the injury report. Almost always the players who are good that get injured and the ones that suck that stay in.
Now that Murphy and DHB look descent they both get hurt and are Questionable. So basically our top 3 WRs are injured now. Any other team like that?
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 am
evening nation,
this campbell/gradkowski discussion still raging, it’s been what almost three weeks??? if i was campbell i wouldn’t want to play until we find a left tackle, because mario is a proven qb killer
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 am
i think we are a few big p;ays and a player away from being very good, but then again i think the same thing every year about this time…one good player on defense and one on offense, schillens maybe? and wimbley ? maybe seymour can pull a reggie white for us. if grads can deliver a couple of bombs that will certainly help but if we are relying on grads to carry us,,,it ain’t going to happen….
October 2nd, 2010 at 6:18 am
860Todd Christensen Says:
October 1st, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Ref beating was outlawed in 1970, wife beating is still in use
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the barbie doll toy maker is releasing a new line of barbies its called
( spousal abuse barbie …) battery not included
October 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
ok to start with i was born a raider fan ,and ill die a raider fan .having said that ,ill admit i havent been to a raider game since the last game in los angelas on christmas eve ,but only because i live down here ,i know piss poor excuse i admit that also ,i have one more thing to say people in so cal are straight up your either with us or against us ,we dont talk sh t unless your there to respond and that seems like all i read on here there is no pride on this page this is not the raider nation there is nothing but a bunch of posers here im convinced this page is based in denver ,san diego ,or kc,real raider fans dont talk sh t like this not about the raiders anyway ,the first time i found this page i had to go check and make sure this was a raider page you people are not raider fans ,where i come from raider fans are brothers and we are against every one else not our team ,you guys sound like a bunch of band wagon jumpers ,,,am i the only one that sees this…where the hell is the raider nation??????????????
October 2nd, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Real Rider fans ALWAYS back there team….LOYALTY
RAIDER-FAN-TILL-DEATH
October 3rd, 2010 at 2:35 am
This game will be won or lost on the first play. We fans are “The 12th Man”, so we have to be in the stadium, in our seats warming up our vocal cords.
Then, assuming we win the toss, the decision TC has to make is:
1) Kick off to them!
Lamar Houston forces a fumble
2) Put the game in the defenses hand. (Shut them down 3 and out!)
3) Raiders fake a h/o to Dmac and while dhb flies down the left sideline beating their incompetent db’s
4) Jano MAKES the point after
5) Crowd goes wild (but everybody has got to be there-not just staggering in)
6) The noise DEEEE FENSE is so loud we can’t even hear Greg Papa and Tom Flores on the Radio.
7)”False start Texans” 1st and 15 form the 35:
9) Raider get the ball back on the 20
10) DMAC breaks one, two, three!!! tackles and races into the black hole (where I will be sitting- in the front row 1) directly into our arms and gives me the ball!
11) GAME OVER RAIDERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Raiders fans MUST ARRIVE EARLY. The defense has to told them to 3 and out.