Raiders weren’t surprised, just whipped
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 3rd, 2010 at 7:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Unless you’re one of those people who considers a 31-24 loss no better than getting blasted 38-0, it could have been worse.
The Raiders gave the smallest non-strike home crowd (32,218) since 1967 a reason to stay interested until the game’s final moments.
When the Houston Texans run up yardage figures like they did Sunday at the Coliseum, it wouldn’t have been unusual to see the Raiders go into one of their patented tortoise shells and simply absorb the beating.
The biggest problem the Raiders had with the way they lost to the Texans isn’t that they’d seen it all before in past years, it was that they’d seen it all before during the week of practice.
They watched the Texans run their zone blocking, stretch-and-cut running game time after time, with quarterback Matt Schaub then operating with bootlegs to either side and play-action passing.
Then the Raiders went out and played as if they’d never seen it before.
“I thought they came in and did exactly what they’ve tried to do all year and that’s establish their run game and they did a good job of it,’’ Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “We never seemed to get a handle on it, or slow it down. I thought offensively (the problem was) our inability to have some consistent pass protection.
“We got whipped on both sides of the line of scrimmage. That’s the bottom line.’’
That whole offseason of making personnel moves and creating a sense of urgency to stop the run?
The Texans benched the NFL’s leading rusher, Arian Foster, for the first quarter for disciplinary reasons and he still rushed for 131 yards on 16 carries, including a 74-yard touchdown run in the third quarter.
Houston had 249 yards on 36 carries. If Gary Kubiak had wanted to really punish Foster for his tardiness to meetings and practice, he should have let backup Derrick Ward (80 yards, 12 carries) stay in the game and go for 175.
The play of the Raiders offensive line had Bruce Gradkowski playing under duress for most of the game. He completed 24 of 39 passes for 278 yards but fumbled twice, losing one, and also had a pair of interceptions.
The last one came when a protection breakdown on a blitz forced an intentional grounding call, which eventually brought up fourth-and-16. Gradkowski got off what should have been a first-down pass to Louis Murphy, only to have it bounce off his body and into the hands of Troy Nolan for a diving interception with less than two minutes to play.
News, notes and quotes as the 1-3 Raiders pick themselves off the deck and look down the barrel of a 13-game losing streak to the San Diego Chargers next Sunday at the Coliseum:
– At least the Raiders kept the crowd entertained. They deserved it for bothering to come out at all. The 32,218 count was the smallest in a non-strike year since Dec. 24, 1967, when the Raiders beat the Buffalo Bills 28-21 in the regular-season finale.
No paid attendance figure was ever lower in Los Angeles.
Keep in mind it’s a tickets sold figure. No way there was 30,000 people at the stadium. It looked like a preseason game.
– There were some blunt assessments of the whipping they got from the Texans.
“We didn’t stop the run,’’ defensive tackle Richard Seymour said. “I’m not a big stat guy, but the stats tell the story. It’s demoralizing when a team can run the ball at will. We didn’t stop the run and there is no excuse for that.’’
Said defensive tackle Tommy Kelly: “It’s a (bleeping) shock to me. I thought we would handle it better. As a defense, we’ve got to play better, I’ve got to play better. Can’t nobody go out there and say nothing after they run for 200 yards in your house without their best player, basically.’’
Kelly says he’s as comfortable as a nose tackle as he is in the three-technique spot, but when John Henderson is out, he’s almost always on the nose.
The plan all week was for the Raiders defensive line to disrupt the Texans offensive line, break up their zone schemes, or break the momentum of the rope, as Cable put it. Instead of breaking up the rope, the Raiders were hung by it.
“We knew what we were getting ready to go against,’’ cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said. “ It was stressed the whole week, about the zone blocking scheme, a great running scheme. And they have the boot off of that. And they came in and did exactly what it was. It was just a matter of us being able to stop in more consistently.
“We didn’t do that. We played well in spurts today. The rest of the time, they had their way with us.’’
– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain is fond of downplaying anything he’s seen in the NFL as having already seen it at Alabama in the SEC. He wasn’t saying anything Sunday, brushing off the only reporter who approached him with a brusque no comment and heading for the door.
No reason to explain why he was walled off by tight end Joel Dreesen on Ward’s game-opening 33-yard scoring run, or how Foster beat him for an 11-yard touchdown pass to make the score 31-21.
That stuff did happen all the time in the SEC. Except it happened to Vanderbilt.
– We’ll have a better idea Wednesday when Darren McFadden does or does not practice, but it appears his run of good health ended on a 23-yard run when he pulled up and reached for his right hamstring, left the game, and did not return.
McFadden said his training camp injury was to his left hamstring, not the one he hurt Sunday.
“I was just trying to go for another gear and I just pulled up,’’ McFadden said. “I’m going to go to the trainers and see what they have me doing. I’ll take it day to day.’’
McFadden had 12 rushes for 47 yards and caught six passes for 82 more, a nice bit of strategy considering the hard-charging Houston front seven.
– McFadden will likely hand the baton this week to Michael Bush, who looks up to the task with seven rushes for 40 yards, a 2-yard touchdown run and two receptions for 16 yards.
– It looked for a moment as if Jason Campbell would get back in the lineup when Gradkowski took a second wallop from Bernard Pollard in the right shoulder area on a third-down play. The Raiders punted, and Gradkowski went to the locker room for a minute.
Gradkowski insisted he was fine, threw a few balls on the sideline and returned.
– The Raiders had 20 or more first downs (24) in four straight games since 2002, when they had a seven-game streak and a five-game streak.
– Langston Walker and Asomugha, both of whom have seen Raiders seasons go south in a hurry after a poor start, insist opening 1-3 will not factor in to practice and preparation.
“This is the 2010 version of the Raiders,’’ Walker said. “We’re not worried about what we would have done last year, two years ago or whatever. We’re playing for right now and those types of things, for me personally, don’t enter into my head.
“I can vouch for the 53 other guys on this team that we’re not thinking about that. We’re thinking about going out there and winning and whipping somebody’s ass.”
Walker found himself with the unenviable task of blocking end Mario Williams, who the Texans flopped to the left side with good results.
“I’m confident because we’re in games more than we were in the past,’’ Asomugha said. “Plus, there are so many new players that they don’t know what `Here we go again’ means. I think we’ll be fine.’’
– Louis Murphy (clavicle) and Darrius Heyward-Bey (groin) weren’t deemed ready to play until pregame warm-ups, with the team poised to activate Shaun Bodiford from the practice squad if necessary.
By game’s end, Murphy had one catch (he was targeted seven times) and Heyward Bey one (he was targeted five times). That’s 2-for-12 for seven yards to the two starting wide outs.
Murphy conceded he didn’t know if he’d be able to play with his clavicle injury and was limited all week. It’s clear he wasn’t himself, although he declined to blame his game-ending bobble and interception from Gradkowski on the injury.
Moments before Heyward-Bey was late to look and adjust to another Gradkowski pass and the ball hit off one hand and fell incomplete. He had another very difficult chance near the end zone on a leap bounce free.
Neither were easy plays or even plays he should be expected to make. Both were at least a possibility for an upper tier receiver.
– Some nice offensive adjustments by the Raiders in getting Miller involved in the outside game (often in conjunction with a Heyward-Bey deeper route on the same side). He caught a career-high 11 receptions for 122 yards and a touchdown in 13 targets.
That gives Gradkowski a 131.4 passer rating going to Miller and 16.6 to his starting wide receivers.
– The Raiders were 3-for-3 scoring touchdowns in the red zone after being 3-for-13 coming in. Hue Jackson made the best call of his tenure as offensive coordinator on a 13-yard touchown pass from Gradkowski to Marcel Reece on third and goal from the 2. Virtually the entire Houston defense bit on the McFadden run, with Reece drifting uncovered into the end zone.
– Remember coach Cable’s 24-point plan? The Raiders would be in good shape if they scored 24 points per game. Since then, they scored 23 against Arizona and lost by a point. Then they scored 24 and still lost.
As for penalties, the Raiders didn’t have their first one until deep into the second half (an illegal block on a return by Brandon Myers) and later added an intentional grounding call on Gradkowski which preceded the final interception.
– Other players who didn’t finish the game were linebacker Thomas Howard (knee strain) and running back Michael Bennett (hamstring, of course).
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October 3rd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Ouch!
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Jerry,
You are doing a great job sir. Thank you.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
By game’s end, Murphy had one catch (he was targeted seven times) and Heyward Bey one (he was targeted five times). That’s 2-for-12 for seven yards to the two starting wide outs.
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October 3rd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Bring back Gruden. When Murphy dropped that ball on 4th down and went to the sideline, Cable probably told him “Gotta catch that ball, don’t worry we’ll get it back.”
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Raiders suck
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Since my link to NFL salaries is blocked, here goes:
The 2010 Raiders have the highest payroll (Chiefs are the lowest).
Why does Al think he can save a buck with the h/c?
Or scrimp on a gm?
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Here we go again
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “We never seemed to get a handle on it, or slow it down. I thought offensively (the problem was) our inability to have some consistent pass protection.
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Who’s the resident expert in this area?
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Year / Total Payroll
2010
NFL Teams Total Payroll
NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries $ 152,389,371
NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries $ 146,401,600
NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries $ 133,354,045
NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries $ 131,916,300
NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries $ 131,531,820
NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries $ 128,815,061
NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries $ 126,017,443
NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries $ 122,110,110
NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries $ 122,109,207
NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries $ 120,065,819
NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries $ 118,766,239
NFL New York Jets Team Salaries $ 116,910,097
NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries $ 116,677,660
NFL New York Giants Team Salaries $ 115,816,180
NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries $ 114,649,660
NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries $ 113,364,927
NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries $ 112,114,711
NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries $ 111,963,684
NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries $ 111,813,340
NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries $ 109,727,880
NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries $ 109,557,398
NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries $ 108,445,418
NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Salaries $ 104,329,311
NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries $ 102,985,710
NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries $ 96,391,525
NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries $ 95,827,117
NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries $ 95,599,778
NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries $ 94,018,300
NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries $ 93,373,915
NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries $ 92,734,120
NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries $ 90,713,965
NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries $ 83,623,776
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Michael Bush 7 carries for 40 yards and instea dwe start passing and the HC is crying because we can’t pass protect? Are these guy’s this clueless?
Run the damn ball Cable!!!!!
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
There is a very deep rot in the Raider organization that keeps fielding such unprepared teams year after year.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
And yet another heartbeat pain.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
screw the trainer i want to gon on the hamstring scholarship too….
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Debo
They’re doing the same thing as last year, passing when the run game is going good. Just how hard is that to see?
I was crying for them to give the ball to Mbush and we’re passing on vitually every down.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Mr. Nick Miller and Mr. Ford, especially after that long run back on the opening kickoff, should have been utilized since DHB & Murphy were clearly not 100%.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:39 pm
for reals where the heck is nick miller?
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Great play-call from Hue Jackson after the Bruce injury.
Let’s see, your QB just got walloped and barely made it to the sideline on your last offensive play. AFter that, our defense gave up a 7 minute 75 yard drive and we are down 10.
I have a great idea for our offense on the first play afterwards….7 step drop, deep in to our struggling WR!!!!
(Sigh….)
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Debo
They’re doing the same thing as last year, passing when the run game is going good. Just how hard is that to see?
I was crying for them to give the ball to Mbush and we’re passing on vitually every down.
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Yeah. It was especially stupid last year when dhb and murphy were rooks. We’ve got big problems. I was hoping the defensive ranking wasn’t totally a mirage. Oh well.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
One big difference in every game so far,
Titans, Rams, Cardinals, and Texans have all had large gains of 30+, 50+, 60+, 70+ yards for touchdowns.
Raiders have had just as many large gains, but just that large gains, today: Ford(KOR) & McFadden (receiving and a run) previous games as well, Higgins on a PR, Murphy & DHB on receptions.
Raiders end up between midfield and the redzone, opponents end up in the endzone.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Funny stuff……Now Raider fan says Nick Miller is the answer. LOL! NICK MILLER!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Some of you are such crybabies my god… The Raiders lost today… And they lost to one of the best teams in the entire AFC. This is the same team that beat the Colts and is 3-1… The Texans are a VERY good football team… And the Raiders battled back and were driving down the field to tie the game…
now all of you think the Chargers are going to dominate the Raiders? WHY? THey’re not CLOSE to as talented as the Texans… And we should have Henderson back, against a team that doesn’t run the ball, which falls into our hands…
I think the Raiders will win against the Chargers to get them back to 2-3… Where we head to the 49ers who may be 0-5 at that time… No reason to think the Raiders can’t bounce back and win next week.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Need to watch the replay, but were the receivers taken away by press man all day? They were big-time zone busters last week.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Priest …
You’re saying we should have run the ball to end the half? Wasn’t it a two minute drill?
And we were down 17 pts in the 2nd half, right?
Offense is fine, we need to focus on a defense that is giving up WAY too much booty!
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Raidersteve,
You sir are a complete fool. First of all the Chargers have more talent than the Texans. Second, the Texans are a DECENT team but they were without their best player and still handled the Raiders. Third, the Raiders dont beat the Chargers…EVER.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:50 pm
This is the same team that beat the Colts and is 3-1…
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The same Indy team that lost to the Jags today?
Texans and the Titans are NOT that good!
The Raiders are simply worse than they are.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
nick miller, jerry porter, or james jett i dont care! i want someonewho will get the damn ball not complain about pi….
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
we suck! but at least we showed life. didnt give up like in years past. for that i am grateful and still excited about the direction of this team.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
You guys are focusing way too much on offense. The point is the defense is HORRIBLE!
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
The Raiders might have the worst WR core in NFL history.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
The players on defense admit they STINK!
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
This team has shown early life every year. Just about the time the 5th or 6th game rolls around is when the white flags start wavin
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
next step is to do something about it…..
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Let’s face it. Until al takes his dirt nap the raiders will remain a punchline. Javon walker, Jamarcus, dhb! He is incapable of running a franchise and he is too prideful to get help.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
If Parcels is available, get him in here now! He and AD are good friends. Parcels is one of the few people that AD wold listen to. Make Parcels the GM and let him go to work on the coaching staff and players.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Mike Mitchell and Sam Williams are not NFL players. Al must appreciate that they hand wash his jumpsuit and change his diapers.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Including 2003, our record is now at 30 wins, 86 losses.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Remind me again how Parcells has done in his last 2 stops?
Hue Jackson is going to be the next head coach of this team.
Offense is performing with no WRs, a backup QB, and no Oline.
DEFENSE is the problem!
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Jhill I’m talking about to end the half and the end of the game. Both time swe had the ball with less than 3mins to go with multiple t/o’s and the runnin game was verry effective yet we elect to be pass oriented IMO it’s why we lost. At the end of the half itn was 14-14 the end of the game 31-24 with 2mins. left and 2 t/o’s.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
The texanz never stopped our run game we did.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
– Remember coach Cable’s 24-point plan? The Raiders would be in good shape if they scored 24 points per game. Since then, they scored 23 against Arizona and lost by a point. Then they scored 24 and still lost.
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Raiders can’t get a complete game.
They have yet to show up with offense, defense, and special teams ready at the same time.
Defense can’t bail out offense, offense can’t bail out defense, and special teams lets them both down.
Is Cable fired yet?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
[...] to his right hamstring, not the one he injured before missing most of the preseason, according to Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times.Our View: McFadden was allowed to talk to reporters following the game, a [...]
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
I’m tired of looking at Cable now. Next stooge, take your place!
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Where to begin with my beloved team…
Horrible offensive line
No game-changing big hits or turnovers from defense, ever
Can’t stop the run
VERY weak wide receiver corps
Even with Hue, still poor play calling
Bad safeties
Can’t pass protect
Worst attendance since 1967 = continual blackouts, team has lost the community and has become irrelevant
Our big offseason acquisition starting QB benched after six quarters
Now an injured starting RB
Awful drafts in the past decade have set us back years into rebuilding mode
No first round pick next year
Horrible head coach who can’t even do an average job with his “specialty”, the OL
No blocking stud FB
Can’t rush the passer
Seymour is a DE only, not a DT
Inconsistent kicker
Awful special teams on coverage
No GM
That about covers it.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Dude,
You’re an annoying fck. Congrats on USC winning yesterday…oh wait they didnt. On the same line you’re mocking other Raider fans on here….you forget that you thought Kiffin would do well for USC.
What exactly has lil Kitten done in his career for you to be so optimistic? Congrats on USC dropping out of the top 25. Did you know that Airforce is now ranked higher than Southern Cheaters? How about Central Arkansas?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
JB why Parcells what’s he done?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Another thing Tom Cable needs to get away from the Oline and leave it the hell alone………..period
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Michael Bush 7 carries for 40 yards and instea dwe start passing and the HC is crying because we can’t pass protect? Are these guy’s this clueless?
Run the damn ball Cable!!!!!
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The offense wasn’t the problem, despite the fact that the o-line played like a Pop Warner team.
It was the defense letting Houston run all over them like the Pamplona Bulls in Spain all day long.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
What’s with all the doom and gloom?
In the past, we’d get blown out on games liket his. Last year, we could hardly score 10 points a game. Now we know we have an offense that answer any TD. A running game. A QB that can put the ball where it has to when you absolutely need it.
We’ve been at the bottom of the hell hole. It takes time to get out. Gotta walk before you run. We have new Offensive coaches and D coaches. Would any of you really be upset if we didnt make the playoff this year? We’ve lost 2 games by 1 score each late in the fourth. Houston is supposed to be one of the better teams in the league and we hung with them in the first half and almost tied the game in the 4th. 7-9 to 9-7 would be considered a good season for most of us on here. We’re down 3 losses. Do you really fear Denver, SF, KC and Seattle?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Another thing Tom Cable needs to get away from the Oline and leave it the hell alone………..period.
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In Jesus name. Amen.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
A few of us have been trying to tell you guys…Seymour and Kelly are not NT’s. You cannot have them both in the middle and expect to stop the run.
The Raiders have stopped the run 1 TIME this season, and who was in the middle?????? Big John Henderson! Without him we’ve been gashed three straight times!
Seymour should be playing defensive end. If Henderson isn’t playing we NEED another BIG Nose Tackle.
Maybe you guys will listen now.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Damn Jerry you must be a gradkowski apologist too? the two passes in question not only were they bad passes but most receiviers upper tier or not could not have made those catches, but I guess DHB is a convenient whipping boy. Campbell time again, if Gradkowski deserves multiple chances so does Campbell.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Wat does that say about the Defense when the HC states we need atleast 24 pts. What does that say about the defense when we still cant win despite scoring 24.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Why is Cooper Carlisle still starting? A rookie BCampbell could do no worse and at least, has an upside and needs the playing time to develop. I’d much rather see BCampbell alternate at OLT where I believe he will end up. When Gallery returns, move Loper to ORG. I still like Veldheer at center but if not there then ORT. What this all means is that our O-line is a disgrace. Until we fix the o_line, we’re going to continue to be in the cellar.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:50 pm
This is the same team that beat the Colts and is 3-1…
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The same Indy team that lost to the Jags today?
Texans and the Titans are NOT that good!
The Raiders are simply worse than they are.
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Raiders are simply worse team in the league…as usual.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
I mean “worst”.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
did V or Mario give up any sacks today? Anyone knows?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Hey Stabler, the answer is at the bottom of your post: No GM!
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
By game’s end, Murphy had one catch (he was targeted seven times) and Heyward Bey one (he was targeted five times). That’s 2-for-12 for seven yards to the two starting wide outs.
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Time to fire Lal?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Doesn’t WINNING matter anymore to anybody?
“We played hard”
“Guys are not giving up”
“We came close against a good team”
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
did V or Mario give up any sacks today? Anyone knows
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I think only Walker might have. Not sure…
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
We lost to a pretty good team today the Texans will be in the playoffs for sure But morale victories mean nothing. The same exact problems that have been plaguing the Raiders for the last 7 yrs obviously was the formula for defeat today. Question when are we going to make a drastic change on the oline?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
What’s with all the doom and gloom?
In the past, we’d get blown out on games liket his. Last year, we could hardly score 10 points a game. Now we know we have an offense that answer any TD. A running game. A QB that can put the ball where it has to when you absolutely need it.
We’ve been at the bottom of the hell hole. It takes time to get out. Gotta walk before you run. We have new Offensive coaches and D coaches. Would any of you really be upset if we didnt make the playoff this year? We’ve lost 2 games by 1 score each late in the fourth. Houston is supposed to be one of the better teams in the league and we hung with them in the first half and almost tied the game in the 4th. 7-9 to 9-7 would be considered a good season for most of us on here. We’re down 3 losses. Do you really fear Denver, SF, KC and Seattle?
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We fear the season is already lost. And you know as well as I do, a loss to the Chargers puts the nail on the coffin with no way out!
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
UPs and DOwns, Rounds and Rounds put all together and what’ll we have?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
# JB Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Why is Cooper Carlisle still starting? A rookie BCampbell could do no worse and at least, has an upside and needs the playing time to develop. I’d much rather see BCampbell alternate at OLT where I believe he will end up. When Gallery returns, move Loper to ORG. I still like Veldheer at center but if not there then ORT. What this all means is that our O-line is a disgrace. Until we fix the o_line, we’re going to continue to be in the cellar.
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Amen,Amen…
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
59. Its the only thing.
Raiders keep hobbling themselves.
This is a young team growing but they keep adding elemetns that don’t fit.
Grads has no chemistry with wides. How could he?
Campbell really didn’t get to either. Most of the guys were out at one time or antoher during camp.
O lines shaky at best. Does no one in Oakland know how to make these guys run an enemy at the gates drill?!
Ridiculous.
Defense was a sieve again today. That looked too familiar.
Tommy Kelly is no good. Period.
Doesn’t rush the passer, gets blown off the line. Period.
Seymour makes plays but he’s one man. Needed Henderson 2 day and please for the love of gawd won’t someone realize Groves is no good.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Oh yeah and bench Tyvon till he gets his head to gether. He’s been consistently awful even through pre season.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
JB why Parcells what’s he done?
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The team needs a buffer between AD and the front line coaches. Parcells has had positive results at NYG, Dallas and most recently Miami. All three of those teams improved under a Parcells regime. Parcells is a no bullschit person. He doesn’t allow scholarships. He only tolerates good coaches. He has a way of getting the best out of a athlete or he gets rid of them. I believe he could help AD with personnel decisions and more importantly make sure we have competent coaching. He’ll bring an environment of credibility with him and hopefully that will translate into better performance across the board – players and coaches alike.
We need to do something. The 7 year status-quo can’t continue. Something needs to change drastically and I believe that’s the one change that could be made (and accepted by AD) that will make a difference.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
64. Coopers been suspect all year and hasn’t been good for several years.
Fix the O line save the Raiders.
What a waste of talent on that O to force them to play behind that motley crew.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Beach,
Here are the Raiders problems the last 7 years.
1. No QB.
2. No Oline
3. No Run Game
4. Cannot score
5. Cannot stop the Run
6. Cannot get to the QB
7. Spec Team
To me 1, 3, and 4 are fixed. 6 seems to be making improvement. The rest will need to be addressed but you can’t do all this overnite.
Would you be happy with an 8/8 season? I would say most on here would. That means you have 5 more losses to go. Everyone was saying the Rams were no good when we beat them. yet the Rams are 2-2. Houston has the top O in the league and we were able to hang with them today. I’m not looking for moral victories. I’m looking for signs of improvement. I see it on offense and I am looking for more consistency on the D.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
66. Might as well Tyvon’s confidence is shook he is supposed to be one of the dynamic players on the D it’s too bad he has been involved in about 70% of the TD’s given up this year.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:33 pm
So the WR’s have one bad game with Grad but guess what Grad made the TE look like an all pro today. Stop overreacting already. The bottomline is we scored enough points to win any game in this league. We need the D to carry its weight now.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Like I said in August L Murphy has alligator arms. He is a pu$$y that will not go over the middle and make a tough catch. He will make a big play for us here & there but in between that he is sub par at best.
DHB has peaked. Still photos aside, he has a very low football IQ.
JLH – hot mess
R Seymour – best days behind him
T Kelly – nice contract
M Huff – what position do you want to play?
O-line – How are you that bad?
H Jackson – Good riddance
SeaPerch – You still suck even though you didnt wreck anything today.
M Reece – Are you sure your a FB?
T Cable – I cant watch your press conf any longer.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
The attendance tells it all, how long can we wait, how many excuses, dropped passes, penalties, turnovers, sloppy play and more ,you hear people say, ” we are a young team”, thats all ludicris, this team is underacheiving. You can lose on Als terms and not on your own. Cable got Lucky he scored 24 pts, he would of been on the hot seat.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
he is on the hot seat!!! if he loses to SD he is gone in my opinion.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Houstons D sux. Thats why the Raiders scored. Gradkowski is better than Russell but he is no long term answer.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Richard Seymour played well today he needs help TK just didn’t show up today. Our MLB is getting taken to school. Lamarr Houston was used up today. They scouted us very well and attacked us where we were weakest great gameplan for them. We just weren’t very physical. Last week we gave up 17 points in AZ they scored 7 on ST’s is we don’t give that up we beat the crap out of AZ.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
So now we score because we are lucky the other team’s D sux. Nice. Is this the NFL or highschool?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
You’re right this is an underachieving young team. Young teams normally under achieve.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:44 pm
How is it that we are lucky we scored 24 points? Was it due to any turnover, spec team, or Defensive TD’s? NO. A Grad led offense scored 13 points in 2 qtrs against the Rams. Yeah the same team that everyone thought they sucked until they showed that they have yet to be blown out this year and they blew out the Skins and Seatle. The same offense that scored 23/24 in the last 2 games.
I’d like to think of this as proof of consistencies rather than luck. Luck happens once. When Luck repeats itself, it’s not considered luck.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Somehow Tommy Kelly had 5 tackles today.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 pm
No this offense has weapons no doubt but they’re very young, that’ why you would be wise to rely on the best players which are your two HB’s. We are force feeding these WR’s when we should be force feeding the running game.
Said it last year saying it again this year, make the other guy stop us.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Haha, dont forget one of his tackles were in coverage vs dreesen, what a joke.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
5 tackles, hmmmm??? perception is one thing…..
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Sure, the defense took a step back today, but I saw a lot of positive things out there. This team is heading in the right direction. The ass kicking starts next week against the Chokers. I really believe we can still make the playoffs.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Some people on here don’t seem to get it. Once Grads threw that awful pick and the Texans went up by 17, the game was over. They called off the dogs or we would have gotten beat by 20 plus. How else do you explain three straight running plays before we got the ball the last time? That was a slap in the face! They weren’t scared to give the ball back to us and they were right. They came in here without their best player and barely play Foster in the 1st half and STILL kick our asses. Anyone looking for moral victories in this game is a damn fool!
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Out curiosity, is JLH the best the Raiders have as a kick returner? Is he that much faster than the rest of the NFL to have him back there doing that job? His ball handling skills do not separate from other team mates in that position nor does his illusiveness. what gives?
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
2 weeks from now the season will be over & we’ll be discussing what an imbecile pres purple lips is.
I hope I’m wrong & they go on a 9 game winning streak but I know better…
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
TK’s tackles went unseen during the game
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
SeyMourBush/Oakglen,
How have you been? Laying low I see..
Continue on!
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RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Some people on here don’t seem to get it. Once Grads threw that awful pick and the Texans went up by 17, the game was over. They called off the dogs or we would have gotten beat by 20 plus.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
JLH has taken three steps back since he scored those 3 TD in 2008
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
“They called off the dogs”-you mean they went to the running game that tore us to shreds and gave them that lead.But you are correct some people don’t get it-and one of those people is YOU.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Why is it, almost everybody on this blogs sees and agrees on some of the obvious problems with this team but it would appear that the coaches can’t or won’t receipt for the problem(s) and fix it?
Problems that we all seem to agree on:
O-Line
• Carlisle shouldn’t be a starter
• MHenfderson is NOT a NFL caliber OLT
• Satele is a backup at best
• Walker can no longer be a force at ORT
• Gallery is becoming a problem due to repeated injuries.
Special teams
• Poorly coached
• Undisciplined
• Janakowski is not consistent this year
• JLH should no longer be the PR
• Players not staying in their lanes thereby allowing greater run backs than should be
Defense
• We need a fulltime NT
• Scott should not be starting, Shaughnessy should be.
• Tommy Kelly is off more than he is on
• Our safeties are not getting it done
• We still don’t have the right players in the LB corps
• Our defensive scheme has NO imagination – it’s very predictable.
Coaching
• Tom Cable is not really head coach material
• Sanjai Lai is a terrible coach
• Hue Jackson’s game plan is 180 degrees out of sync. should be running but instead passes first
Offense
• Our WR group is suspect at best
• We need a big blocking FB
• We need a real Full time NFL caliber QB.
• We need a dominant power-blocking O-Line
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Who let the dogs out? Woof, woof!
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
SeyMourBush/Oakglen,
How have you been? Laying low I see..
Continue on!
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RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Some people on here don’t seem to get it. Once Grads threw that awful pick and the Texans went up by 17, the game was over. They called off the dogs or we would have gotten beat by 20 plus.
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Don’t know OG or SG, but I’m doing the same. Not too much to talk about. Ready to see this thing get blown up and go a new direction.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
AIG, I’m fine with your assessment. I can live with 7-9 after what I saw today. If I hear that John Henderson and Robert Gallery can play next week, I can believe we have a shot against SD.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
“They called off the dogs”-you mean they went to the running game that tore us to shreds and gave them that lead.But you are correct some people don’t get it-and one of those people is YOU.
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LOL! You’re out of your mind man. Wouldn’t be surprised if you think we’re a couple of plays away from being a SB contender. Wake up!
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Some people on here don’t seem to get it. Once Grads threw that awful pick and the Texans went up by 17, the game was over. They called off the dogs or we would have gotten beat by 20 plus. How else do you explain three straight running plays before we got the ball the last time? That was a slap in the face! They weren’t scared to give the ball back to us and they were right. They came in here without their best player and barely play Foster in the 1st half and STILL kick our asses. Anyone looking for moral victories in this game is a damn fool!
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You’re such an idiot with your blind faither for Jalwarus and JC that I am going to start calling you Deborah,
The only fool on here is you. Did you know that Andre Johnson has 15 catches and 255 yds for the season. 2 catches and 23 more yds than Louis Murphy before today’s game. But you wouldnt know that would you dumbfck. So how much of their offense is he carrying? Or is it their running O that has won games for them this year like against Indy? like how they have the number 1 rusher in the league?
As for they werent scared, another dumb statement. You think they were happy when we came within 7 points and driving to equalize the game at the 50 yd line with 2 timeouts left and 2 mins to go?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Other than Seymour, there is no toughness or leadership on defense. McLain talks a good game but nothing approaching his draft status.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:02 pm
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October 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
lol @ Debo pretending not to know OakGlen or SeymourBush.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Beach,
I do my best to be objective but I am a Raider fan at heart so optimism is in me. However, I believe the D will bounce back because their manhood got stomped on today. Much like how the D bounced back against the Eagles after the Giants game last year, I believe we will bounce back and win against the Chargers. Bauce is right on for his assessment on the NT position. Henderson plays a huge part and we need him back.
I thought we would split Hou/Sd and go 2/2 against KC, Den, SF, and Sea. Obvoiusly I go into every game hoping we win and wishing we win.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
92. Nail on the head.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
When is the last time Nnamdi had an INT?
2006?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:09 pm
The offense has come around, so now it all boils down to stopping the run.
Put eight men in the box on every play, if you have to.
And get some new defensive tackles.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Anbody notice that Davis Nixon played for Hosuton. Good enough for their 53 man roster, but we still gave Sam Williams, who lost any upside he had remaining 6 years ago.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Thank you Grads for keeping it close. We know how much the deficit would have been if Campbell were QB. Think Tennessee.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Right now it looks like we didn’t need Houston and Cody may have been a better draft pick because people want Seymour at Houston’s end position. I dont know how Cody is doing right now for the Ravens, so we’ll see how things unfold. Asomugha got an int in Pittsburgh last yera.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Aig,
This coming from the guy who couldn’t wait to give Grads a blow after the game. They ran the ball on 3rd and 6!!! Why the fck would you do that if you’re scared of our offense? You are such sheep! You really believe in all that “Bruce has heart”, “He sparks the offense”, “He’s gritty and gutty” garbage! When are you gonna figure out that that BS counts for next to nothing? The guy is a loser and consequently, so are the Raiders.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Kirk,
I agree. I think the offense’s ineptitude the last 7 years has really masked how bad our D is. Now that we have a competent O (I’m not saying great), we can clearly see that the D needs to step up its game. I think the D will show up next week. We’ve matched up on the D decently before with them.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
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October 3rd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Gradkowski at least gives us a chance to win. Watch the Tennessee game to see where Campbell gets us. I’d rather have close games like today than get blown out. No thanks to Campbell.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Loser quarterbacks don’t take the two hits Gradkooski did and still almost lead a comeback.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Deborah,
1. Why would you pass and stop the clock or risk a turnover late in the game?
2. If you look at the stats today, they ran the ball much more effective than passing?
3. Do you see how on the final play, they ran the ball and got a first down to run out the clock?
If you have any brain cells left, I’d suggest you look up the box score today and see how many yds they gained in running vs passing and the avg yards per play. Dumba$$
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
We need to put eight men in the box on every play until we stop the run.
Hopefully Henderson will be back soon.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
# The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Thank you Grads for keeping it close. We know how much the deficit would have been if Campbell were QB. Think Tennessee.
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We all know you are a Grad fan if for no other reason, your moniker. Grads has great heart, no doubt. He has a lot of other positives too. Is he our long term solution, I don’t think so.
The long and short of it all is you either WIN or you LOSE. Everything else is window dressing. Whether you win or lose by 1 or 100, it’s still a WIN or a LOSS. I’m tired of LOSING no matter who’s fault it was.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Loser quarterbacks don’t take the two hits Gradkooski did and still almost lead a comeback.
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According to Aig they do. Aig, care to tell us Grads record as a starter?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Gradkowski at least gives us a chance to win. Watch the Tennessee game to see where Campbell gets us. I’d rather have close games like today than get blown out. No thanks to Campbell.
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the few times we can agree on something. I’d rather be able to watch my team til the end vs knowing the game was over after the first qtr.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Deborah,
Grad’s record with the Raiders is zero blow outs. How is JC’s and Jawalrus’ records with the Raiders? I know you love these guys.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 pm
2. If you look at the stats today, they ran the ball much more effective than passing?
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Who cares about the stats? Think of the situation. 3rd and 6! Schaub hadn’t been sacked all day! He’d thrown no interceptions! Play-action had been effective. An ultra-conservative call against an inept offense. That’s how they looked at it and they were right.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
You 2 nimrods are arguing about which Qb is more worse than the other with the myriad of problems this team has from top to bottom?
From top I mean the GM to the HC to the OC to the DC to the ST coach!
lol, knock yourselves out!
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
You 2 nimrods are arguing about which Qb is more worse than the other with the myriad of problems this team has from top to bottom?
From top I mean the GM to the HC to the OC to the DC to the ST coach!
lol, knock yourselves out!
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No argument from me. You’ll never find a post from me on this board supporting JC. I’ll never in a million years understand why we traded for him in the 1st place.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
An inept offensive starts from play calling. look at Mcfadden’s stats in the first half. now, who was inept from stopping his progress?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
A head coaching change will accomplish nothing this year. The only thing worse than a scholarship player would be a scholarship HC, and I`m afraid that’s what Jackson would be.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Spartacus you are dead wrong.
A coaching change in the off-season is more entertaining than the product on the field. I say we start the circus show a little early this year!
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 pm
2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
An inept offensive starts from play calling. look at Mcfadden’s stats in the first half. now, who was inept from stopping his progress?
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Can’t argue with the playcalling. The ball needed to be taken out of Grads hands. He showed zero “pocket presence” and held the ball too long on the sack/fumble. And there’s no excuse for that 1st interception. It cost us the game.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:40 pm
With George Blanda passing away, Al has got o know the end is near. Perhaps he waits until the end of the year and gives the carte blanche to Jim Harbaugh. I could live with that.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
You guys knocking Gradkowski are just plain clueless. Guy’s consistently getting us about 25 ppg. The last time we had a QB doing that we were a Super Bowl contender. The last few years we’ve been about a 10 ppg team. Are you guys dumb, or just have zero memory?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
JB,
Gradkowsk IS our long term solution. He has shades of Rich Gannon. He’s a true competitor, like Gannon. He wants to win, like Gannon. He knows what it takes to win, like Gannon. He can rally the team and keep them focused even under a Raiders front office that is ALWAYS mired in chaos, like Gannon. Bruce is the long term answer. He should be our QB for the next 5 years and beyond.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Not to mention he led us back to victory against the Rams, led what should’ve been a game-winning drive against the Cards, and possibly could’ve produced another game-tying drive today if Murphy catches a ball that hits him right in the hands on 4th and forever. … A game in which our D allows well over 200 yards rushing no less.
Give me a break.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Same ‘ol sorry ass raiders
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Is there any player on this team that’s not on scholarship? so far I’ve seen every player n this team is on scholarship by you dimwits. If you don’t like him that means he’s on scholarship.
All it means is that you don’t like him scholarship has nothing to do with it. Birdbrain!!!
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Priest,
Valid point, but no need for name-calling (to whomever it was directed).
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
One thing that’s bothering me as much as the D’s inability to stop the run is when are we going to get a turnover? I mean a real one, not a punt that bounces off an unwitting blocker. I’m talking a pick-6 or a couple of sack-fumbles that set up a short field. I think we had one of those in the first half vs. Tennessee and then … nothing.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
priest, the Raiders are notorious for keeping lousy players for long amounts of time because Al Davis just likes them. That’s where the term comes from, and that’s why fans are always suspicious of players being scholarships. We know Gradkowski isn’t a scholarship, though. Because he plays smart football, doesn’t just heave the ball downfield the way the Raiders like. Al likes dumb quarterbacks. Proven fact. That’s why he traded for Campbell. That’s why he drafted Russell. I’m glad Cable or Kiffin, whoever, lobbied to get Gradkowski, though. What a relief. If not for him, we’re not even keeping games close. We’re just getting blown out like we did against Tennessee, under Campbell.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 pm
2romes Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
An inept offensive starts from play calling. look at Mcfadden’s stats in the first half. now, who was inept from stopping his progress?
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Can’t argue with the playcalling. The ball needed to be taken out of Grads hands. He showed zero “pocket presence” and held the ball too long on the sack/fumble. And there’s no excuse for that 1st interception. It cost us the game.
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It cost us the game? Did the 31 points and roughly 250 yards rushing by the defense have anything to do with it? Or Murphy’s DHB impression on the last play that would’ve picked up a first down and gave us a chance to tie the game?
That was a bad play by Gradkowski on the fumble, should’ve sensed that rush. Walker is equally to blame though. Pretty much completely whiffed on his block. The INT I can live with. If you want to see an offense that moves the ball and scores some points you’re going to need a QB like Grads who isn’t afraid to thread the needle to make plays happen. Sometimes a guy will make a play for the defense, tip it up and they’ll get a pick. It happens. I can live with it. The alternative is a QB who gets sacked a zillion times and leads the league in fumbles and throwaways.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
tj, do you think you are qualified to call anybody a Birdbrain?
lol
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
JaMarcus Russell was an easy target, now, you’ll have to find another……….Tom Cable?
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
# I am Spartacus Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Priest,
Valid point, but no need for name-calling (to whomever it was directed).
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My exact thought. Priest often posts some very astute observations but they lose their value when they go on to denigrate specific individuals or everyone as idiots, morons or whatever. Then all we get is a food fight so to speak.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
The Texans are a good team and we hung in there, so this loss doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the loss to Arizona. What it does do though is make that loss hurt even more because 2-2 would be much more comfortable than 1-3.
The one thing that softens that though is we finally have a QB that makes some plays and directs an actual professional-looking offense that consistently moves the chains and is capable of scoring multiple TDs per game. It’d be nice to get a win here soon though to stay relevant and maybe spark some confidence.
On the one hand, it’s been nice to watch some close, nail-biting games the last couple of weeks, even though we lost, rather than the 35-7 routes we’ve grown accustomed to. On the other, I’d love to watch a boring, 35-7, type game real soon — with us on the winning end for once, of course.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Deborah,
We know why you hate Grad. The post below pretty much sums it up. Anyone who seriously still find excuses for Jawalrus is a bonafied certified idiot.
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RaiderDebo Says:
April 28th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
This is awesome news!!!!!! This guy has been made the scapegoat for everything that’s wrong in the world. It’s complete blsht!! He had the worst supporting cast in football last year. His crime is that he didn’t work miracles. Why fix the supporting cast and then cut him after paying him $40 million? And Jason Campbell failed in Washington. He doesn’t deserve to be handed anything. I want to see JR compete with him just like he had to compete with Ryan Perriloux and Matt Flynn before his junior year. We know how that turned out. And I can’t wait to see all these “sources” backtrack when he’s not pushing three bills.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
My concern is even when the Raiders get good talent they get caught in with is mixture of derisory.The concept of great team players get thrown out the window.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Gardowski had 3 turnovers!
All 3 of those turnovers were costly. Just like the delay of game penalty at the one yard line last week! The guy taking the intentional grounding penalty on that last drive was a killer! Should’ve never been in a 4th and 16 in the first place.
With that said he did a MUCH better job this week of getting the RB and TE involved in the passing game. Still goes to DHB in crucial situations WAY too often.
The game was DEFINITELY over in Houston’s mind when they went up 17 pts.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
DMac getting hurt is a HUGE blow for the offense. Bush and DMac in the lineup together was going to be nice.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:13 pm
This is kind of off-topic, but, including today’s home game, the Raiders only leave the Bay area once from Week 4 through Week 10. That’s a seven-week span of practicing, preparing and playing at your HQ except for a couple of days in Denver. You would hope that would be somewhat beneficial.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm
3 LBs who had ZERO experience as NFL 4-3 LBs prior to this year.
A DE who just got beat out at OLB by a guy who never played OLB before?
A SS who is a former CB?
95% of the “big yards” given up happen on runs to Trevor Scott’s side, or play action aimed at the LBs and SS.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
J Hill,
You can’t pin that 3rd turnover on Gradkowski. Guy makes a perfect throw to a barely open receiver for a would-be first down, but it gets coughed-up into the hands of the defense.
The fumble was shared responsiblity with Walker who whiffed on his block. The first INT is the kind of thing that happens sometimes when you’re trying to make plays in tight windows — a necessity if you want to compete in the NFL. Just like the pass to JLH that went for 30+ yards.
The fact is that while Murphy has been a nice player for us in his 1.25 seasons, he’s still got inconsistent hands that have been overshadowed by DHB’s hands issues.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Blaming Grads for the last interception and the intentional grounding is ridiculous. The final interception clearly belongs to Murphy and on the grounding call, a defensive lineman came free at Grads before he could even look over the field.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
One guy I’ve gotta call out today is Tyvon Branch.
Where has he been this year? I’d say more than half the big plays given up by the defense this season were because he was out of position.
Might be time to give Mike Mitchell a look. At least to get TB’s attention and give him a chance to see the game from a different perspective.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Come on J.The 3rd TO was a pass that hit the WR right on the money but he missed it.The intentional grounding could have been blown off because the pass was going towards a WR but fell well short-not arguing the call,just saying.As far as going to DHB,last week he went to him on a key 3rd,or 4th(don’t remember which down it was) down play to keep the drive alive,then DHB got the PI that set up the FG try.This week,he got a key penalty for a 1st down-that makes him 3 for 3.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
And did we even have LBs on the field today? Seemed like every tackle was made by a d-lineman or DB.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
You can’t pin that 3rd turnover on Gradkowski.
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4th and 16 is the issue Chris. Yeah Murphy should have caught the pass, but we say that a lot, don’t we?
The fact that we needed a big play from Murphy or DHB at the end of the game was because of a bad play by Gardowski on the intentional grounding.
Not saying Camplunkett is the answer, but Gardowski CLEARLY held the ball too long on several occasions today and we were down 31-14 because of it.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Al Davis has a ton of explaining to due regarding the lack of a veteran WR with solid hands on this roster. Mark Clayton or Terrel Owens would have had a huge stabilizing influence on the young guys we are trying to develop. For the life of me I just cant figure out what Al is thinking here. Don’t even get me started on the OL and out of position LB’s.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Deborah,
We know why you hate Grad. The post below pretty much sums it up. Anyone who seriously still find excuses for Jawalrus is a bonafied certified idiot.
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RaiderDebo Says:
April 28th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
This is awesome news!!!!!! This guy has been made the scapegoat for everything that’s wrong in the world. It’s complete blsht!! He had the worst supporting cast in football last year. His crime is that he didn’t work miracles. Why fix the supporting cast and then cut him after paying him $40 million? And Jason Campbell failed in Washington. He doesn’t deserve to be handed anything. I want to see JR compete with him just like he had to compete with Ryan Perriloux and Matt Flynn before his junior year. We know how that turned out. And I can’t wait to see all these “sources” backtrack when he’s not pushing three bills.
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Guilty as charged.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 pm
One guy I’ve gotta call out today is Tyvon Branch.
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Been saying that since he bit hard on the Washington TD week 1 that put us down 7. G ave up 3 TDs that day, and 2 more against the Rams.
Gets targeted by other coaches which is why you see the play action working so well.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Chris in NY says:
The fact is that while Murphy has been a nice player for us in his 1.25 seasons, he’s still got inconsistent hands that have been overshadowed by DHB’s hands issues.
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All true. According to Jerry Rice, Murphy’s problem on that 4th down pass was that “he took his eyes off the ball in anticipation of taking a big hit”. Murphy has been rumored as not being comfortable on crossing patterns. Maybe there’s something to be said for the rumor. If that’s the case, put in a WR that’s willing to make the catch and absorb the hit. Isn’t that what NMiller was supposed to be good at? How will we ever know unless they give him some reps. That catch needed to be made by whomever was playing. Our WR’s need to know it’s there job to catch the ball without a load of excuses.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Michael Huff needs to be called out as well. His poor excuse for tackling has me pining for the return of Stuart Schweigert.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
You can’t pin that 3rd turnover on Gradkowski.
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4th and 16 is the issue Chris. Yeah Murphy should have caught the pass, but we say that a lot, don’t we?
The fact that we needed a big play from Murphy or DHB at the end of the game was because of a bad play by Gardowski on the intentional grounding.
Not saying Camplunkett is the answer, but Gardowski CLEARLY held the ball too long on several occasions today and we were down 31-14 because of it.
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We were down 31-14 because our defense gives up a ridiculous number of big plays every single week. If not for Grads, we’re probably down 31-0 like the Jets and Giants and several other teams last year, and basically were to the Titans this year.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
You can’t pin that 3rd turnover on Gradkowski.
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4th and 16 is the issue Chris. Yeah Murphy should have caught the pass, but we say that a lot, don’t we?
The fact that we needed a big play from Murphy or DHB at the end of the game was because of a bad play by Gardowski on the intentional grounding.
Not saying Camplunkett is the answer, but Gardowski CLEARLY held the ball too long on several occasions today and we were down 31-14 because of it.
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Knew I could count on you Jhill.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
JB Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Chris in NY says:
The fact is that while Murphy has been a nice player for us in his 1.25 seasons, he’s still got inconsistent hands that have been overshadowed by DHB’s hands issues.
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All true. According to Jerry Rice, Murphy’s problem on that 4th down pass was that “he took his eyes off the ball in anticipation of taking a big hit”. Murphy has been rumored as not being comfortable on crossing patterns. Maybe there’s something to be said for the rumor. If that’s the case, put in a WR that’s willing to make the catch and absorb the hit. Isn’t that what NMiller was supposed to be good at? How will we ever know unless they give him some reps. That catch needed to be made by whomever was playing. Our WR’s need to know it’s there job to catch the ball without a load of excuses.
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That’s why we need Schilens back more than anyone realizes. A WR not afraid to go across the middle and hands as sure as Zach Miller’s.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
You’re right this is an underachieving young team. Young teams normally under achieve.
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This type of thinking keeps you in a losing cycle for eternity. Arian Foster is in his 2nd year and looked like Jim Brown today.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Lefty,
Sorry man, but we are throwing WAY too often to DHB. Would much rather see some of those balls go to Miller and the RBs. Heck even JLH. The percentages are just not in his favor. Sure if we throw it too him enough times, something is going to happen in his favor. But he’s terrible right now man, by NFL standards.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
The only thing sure about Schillens is that he is gonna be unavailable due to injury
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Chris in NY, yes, I can say in confidence it had a major factor on the result of the game . Bill parcell, most of his tenture had extremely close games. he was victorious in many of those games. maybe that is the style of game the Raiders should be playing.The Raiders lately have not been able to try that approach because the head coach throws the team under the bus, making them do to much to fast. How often are the Raiders in position to score points. Any points!!! It shows lack of discipline on the head coach part.little points can add up to win games in the end.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
When was the last time a Raider WR made a catch that had you shaking your head with amazement? I cannot recall one in a few seasons. Al really dropped the ball counting on this group.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
On the one hand, it’s been nice to watch some close, nail-biting games the last couple of weeks, even though we lost, rather than the 35-7 routes we’ve grown accustomed to.
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We should have beaten the Cards 35-7. I’ve never seen a team make that many mistakes in a game and actually WIN it. I would have been critical even if Jano had hit the FG. We had no business being behind in the 1st place. I wouldn’t be surprised if they played better today than they did last week, and look was SD did to them.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
When is the last time Nnamdi had an INT?
2006?
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Yea, and I get ridiculed here for calling the “pretty boy” overrated.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Michael Huff needs to be called out as well. His poor excuse for tackling has me pining for the return of Stuart Schweigert.
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Huff blew one but all in all I think he’s now solid. Branch was left in the dust a few times when he should’ve made the tackle and took himself out of position several other times with nothing behind him.
It’s a shame, cuz we all thought Branch was a long-term answer. Now I think it’s time Cable benches him to at least see what MM can do.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
When was the last time a Raider WR made a catch that had you shaking your head with amazement? I cannot recall one in a few seasons. Al really dropped the ball counting on this group.
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I think it was Ronald Curry.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 pm
That’s why we need Schilens back more than anyone realizes. A WR not afraid to go across the middle and hands as sure as Zach Miller’s.
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Wasn’t this the case last year too for JR? And he got benched in the same game Chaz came back. Every QB on the roster played better when Chaz came back and DHB went to the bench. But shame on the Raiders for not getting a veteran in here. Chaz’s health can’t be counted on.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
If not for Grads, we’re probably down 31-0
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Again, I’m not arguing that Gardowski isn’t the best QB on this team.But the guy makes a lot of mistakes that you just won’t acknowledge.
He without question lost the game for us last week with that delay of game penalty at the half foot line. Should’ve never come down to a frickin kicker!
Today, I think he didn’t play well. The turnovers and sacks from holding the ball too long hurt the offense and gave the ball back to Houston. If we take care of the ball better, we don’t go down 17 pts.
IMO, the game was over when we went down 17 pts. The come back yardage was insignigicant to me as Houston seemed to go into coast mode.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
You guys knocking Gradkowski are just plain clueless. Guy’s consistently getting us about 25 ppg. The last time we had a QB doing that we were a Super Bowl contender. The last few years we’ve been about a 10 ppg team. Are you guys dumb, or just have zero memory?
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Facts are facts. Chris, you are correct. Grads in the game so far = 24 points. All this other stuff about the offensive line and Murphy dropping balls is ridiculous. The lousy D gave up 31 effing points!!!
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
The game was over when Derrick Ward torched the defense for a 32yd TD run on the Texans’ opening drive. It is mind boggling to me how the Raiders can be so consistently bad against the run year after year.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Michael Huff needs to be called out as well. His poor excuse for tackling has me pining for the return of Stuart Schweigert.
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Branch was the safety on the side of Foster’s big run. Huff coming in from BEHIND is not missing a tackle.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
J-he only had 5 passes thrown his way today-Miller had something like 10 receptions.I don’t agree that he is terrible-he isn’t great but he isn’t terrible-but that is an opinion thing.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
# chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
The only thing sure about Schillens is that he is gonna be unavailable due to injury
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# chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
When was the last time a Raider WR made a catch that had you shaking your head with amazement? I cannot recall one in a few seasons. Al really dropped the ball counting on this group.
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Both true. Maybe our problems lie with poor coaching. I’ve often felt that Sanjay Lai was the weak link. His results have never escalated above poor since he’s been here. If your position coach is happy then the likelihood is that the athlete is too. Maybe it’s time the gloves come off and some a$$ is kicked. Doesn’t matter to me whether its the coach or the player. Better yet, That whole group, including the coach, needs their butts reamed.
Maybe TC just needs to go give Lai a shot to the chin to get his attention.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
The defense lines up incorrectly A LOT to me.
Can’t for the life of me figure out why we line one of our DTs up in front of the C. There always seems to be a big hole between that DT and the DE. And the other team just runs right threw it as the OG is able to jump right on a LB.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:45 pm
J-he only had 5 passes thrown his way today
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I said earlier that he did a much better job going away from DHB to the RBs and TE this week.
Those 4 passes that didn’t connect, at least 2 of them were on 3rd down. I’m just saying that I don’t think he’s earned the trust to be a go to 3rd down guy. I need better than a 50-50 chance at the play being a success.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Since that glorious January day, after beating the Titans at the Coliseum in 2003, your Oakland Raiders winning percentage is .256. That’s right fans, 30-87. Have we hit rock bottom yet? Lord, we hope.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
If not for Grads, we’re probably down 31-0
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Again, I’m not arguing that Gardowski isn’t the best QB on this team.But the guy makes a lot of mistakes that you just won’t acknowledge.
He without question lost the game for us last week with that delay of game penalty at the half foot line. Should’ve never come down to a frickin kicker!
Today, I think he didn’t play well. The turnovers and sacks from holding the ball too long hurt the offense and gave the ball back to Houston. If we take care of the ball better, we don’t go down 17 pts.
IMO, the game was over when we went down 17 pts. The come back yardage was insignigicant to me as Houston seemed to go into coast mode.
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That is total B.S. First, in the AZ game we still had a couple of downs to try to score after the delay. Second, there was a lot of game left after that series and Arizona could’ve played more aggressively and come back to win anyway. The only play you can say without a question lost us that game was the blown FG.
I don’t think Grads was necessarily at his sharpest today. I wonder how much of that had to do with his WRs both in terms of their health and failures to get open/catch the ball. If the guys around Gradkowski did their job in the clutch (Janikowski last week and Murphy today) we could easily be 3-1 right now.
Peyton Manning aside, QBs are going to make mistakes from time to time. Look at the Sunday night game between a Super-Bowl winning QB and another top-10 draft pick QB. They were getting sacked left and right and their offenses were turning the ball over and generally ineffective.
So you can’t expect Grads to pitch a perfect game every time out. I’ll be happy with the 25 ppg and 20+ first downs he gets this offense to produce every single week, numbers we haven’t seen around these parts in 8 years. You should expect the highest paid kicker in the league to make a 32-yarder for the win and you should expect your No. 1 WR to catch a ball that hits him right in the chest on 4th down in crunch time. Bottom line.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
After each loss I say to myself it just cannot get any worse but somehow, it always does.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Those 4 passes that didn’t connect, at least 2 of them were on 3rd down.
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Another one was an underthrown ball in the endzone by Gardowski. Dude was open on that play, but it was a 2nd down play I believe.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 pm
How come you don’t see that “Commitment to Excellence” posted in the schedules anymore? The Raiders are not the Team of the Decades. Sorry to say, the Pittsburgh Steelers are. They’ve had stability since 1970 with ownership and coaching, never having a prima donna mentality, just pure smash mouth defense and a solid running game. True blue collar players.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Those 4 passes that didn’t connect, at least 2 of them were on 3rd down.
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Another one was an underthrown ball in the endzone by Gardowski. Dude was open on that play, but it was a 2nd down play I believe.
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And DHB probably should’ve caught it. A difficult catch, yes, but one that good NFL WRs make more often than not. Our WRs never help the QB out — no matter who the QB is — with that kind of exceptional play though.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
That is total B.S. First, in the AZ game we still had a couple of downs to try to score after the delay.
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Like I said, just a few things you Gardowski cats are not going to acknowledge.
Bottom line is Gardowski is not suppossed to be the guy taking delay of game penalties in that situation. THAT play was easier than the Jano missed FG, and it can’t be argued. He also threw the ball to DHB a couple more times in that drive as his first read instead of Miller or a RB.
The delay of game penalty was HUGE man.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
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Monte Poole: Oakland Raiders’ Silver-and-Black heroes of yore would be disgusted
By Monte Poole
Oakland Tribune columnist
Posted: 10/03/2010 09:15:33 PM PDT
The Silver-and-Black heroes of yore, the Raiders of the late George Blanda and the late Jack Tatum, would have been disgusted by what took place Sunday at the Oakland Coliseum.
The Raiders of today didn’t like it, either, but they couldn’t do anything about it.
They were pushed, smacked and punished on their own turf. They were beaten up, pounded down and shoved sideways. Though they rallied and fought back, actually made a game of it, they were unceremoniously flattened by a team without its best player.
Oakland’s 31-24 loss to Houston before an energetic but ultimately exasperated gathering of 32,218 was much more decisive than the score indicates and not as close as many of the game statistics suggested.
“We got our butts kicked,” defensive tackle Richard Seymour said.
“We got whipped on the line of scrimmage,” coach Tom Cable said.
The Raiders were manhandled on both lines of scrimmage, to be precise. The Texans sacked quarterback Bruce Gradkowski (24 of 39, 278 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions and undiminished pluck) four times and hit him at least another half dozen. They also contained Darren McFadden, the No. 3 rusher in the NFL, who finished with a season-low 47 yards.
The worst of this mashing, though, came from Houston’s offensive line, which spent most of the afternoon as oversized magicians by making Oakland’s front seven disappear.
The Raiders surrendered 249 yards on the ground —
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despite the absence of Houston’s Pro Bowl wideout Andre Johnson, which practically shouted an emphasis on running the ball.
“When we found out he wasn’t playing,” said cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, who would have been assigned to Johnson, “that should have been a moment that we said, ‘OK, let’s key in on the run.’ ”
Then there’s this: Arian Foster, the league’s rushing leader, didn’t start. He was late to a meeting and that was the discipline he received from Texans coach Gary Kubiak.
Foster entered midway through the second quarter and had three carries at the half. His fourth carry, on the second play of the third quarter, went through Oakland’s defensive left, after which he shook off safety Michael Huff and raced in for a 74-yard touchdown.
The crowd, restless and eager to roar, went mute. Before long, it wouldn’t matter that Oakland had more first downs (24 to 21), fewer penalties (two to Houston’s five) and a slight advantage in time of possession.
“When somebody runs for (249) yards on you, what are you going to say?” barked defensive tackle Tommy Kelly. “At the end of the day, you don’t have anything to say. Can’t nobody go out there and say nothing after someone runs for 200 yards, in your house, without their best player.”
Maybe that explains why rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain, drafted largely for his leadership ability at Alabama, could summon only a “no comment” as he strolled out of the locker room.
This was a truly dispiriting performance by the unit alleged to be the team’s strongest. These Raiders were supposed have a more effective run defense than the holey units of the recent past. They made substantial changes in the front seven, adding four completely new faces and with only Kelly lining up in a similar position as last season.
Asked what he told his players afterward, Cable said he gave them their criticism straight because there’s no point in concealing the truth when it’s on such naked display.
“You don’t sugarcoat that,” he said. “You don’t talk around that. You have to deal with that.”
So here we are, four games into what was hailed as a season of resurgence, and the Raiders are exactly where they’ve been for each of the past two seasons. They are 1-3, searching for answers and facing the prospect of dwindling home crowds.
Yet they remain resolute.
“Change is going to come,” Seymour vowed. “We can’t lay that out there.”
Cable talked about the improved character and the more resilient attitude. He says this team is different from those in years past, and Asomugha, the most accomplished longtime Raider, echoed the sentiment.
“I’m confident because we’re in games more than we were in the past,” he said. “Plus, there are so many new players that they don’t know what ‘Here we go again’ means. I think we’ll be fine.”
While that speaks to the Asomugha’s faith, it wouldn’t do much good for the great Raiders of long ago. They didn’t win them all, but rarely, if ever, did they feel so helpless.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Next week is a H.U.G.E. game hosting San Diego.
Denver plays Baltimore and you’d think they’ll fall to 2-3. If we could pull off the win at home against the Chargers we’re all 2-3 and chasing the Chiefs. It suddenly becomes a wide-open division again.
All hands on deck.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
I wonder how much of that had to do with his WRs both in terms of their health and failures to get open/catch the ball. If the guys around Gradkowski did their job in the clutch (Janikowski last week and Murphy today) we could easily be 3-1 right now.
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You could also say of Gardowski plays better we could at least be 2-2 and possibly 3-1.
I’m not anti Gardowski, so I’m going to move on to my main beef with the team right now …. The defense!
LBs and SS play is killing us. Anyone not seeing them being targeted with play action is blind. But what should we expect from basically 3 rookie LBs and a converted CB at SS? The lack of instincts at those positions is GLARING!
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
And DHB probably should’ve caught it. A difficult catch, yes, but one that good NFL WRs make more often than not.
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Are you serious?
That would’ve been a top 10 play of the week if DHB made that catch. Way underthrown and DHB showed off his hops trying to go BACKWARDS over the DB to get it.
Would’ve been a HELLUVA catch.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
That is total B.S. First, in the AZ game we still had a couple of downs to try to score after the delay.
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Like I said, just a few things you Gardowski cats are not going to acknowledge.
Bottom line is Gardowski is not suppossed to be the guy taking delay of game penalties in that situation. THAT play was easier than the Jano missed FG, and it can’t be argued. He also threw the ball to DHB a couple more times in that drive as his first read instead of Miller or a RB.
The delay of game penalty was HUGE man.
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I don’t put a lot of stock in that play. It hurt but there’s a fair chance Arizona comes back and scores anyway if they’re behind rather than sitting on a lead.
And the delay could’ve been on Jackson getting the play in late, Cable failing to get the refs attention to call time out or even the center for failing to snap the ball when Grads gave him the signal. Every team has that built-in option for the QB to “goose” the center when he wants the ball regardless of the snap-count. You could see Grads was calling for it and the ball was never snapped.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
I guess I will go to sleep and bathe in a multitude of Raiders victories. Good night Raiders brothers and sisters.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
And DHB probably should’ve caught it. A difficult catch, yes, but one that good NFL WRs make more often than not.
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Are you serious?
That would’ve been a top 10 play of the week if DHB made that catch. Way underthrown and DHB showed off his hops trying to go BACKWARDS over the DB to get it.
Would’ve been a HELLUVA catch.
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Isn’t it nuts? With JR under center, everyone loved to blame is lack of pocket presence, his accuracy, his weight, blah blah blah. All of a sudden, all any of these guys want to talk about is the receivers, the playcalling, the defense and anything thing else BUT the QB. Crazy stuff!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
JHill,
Dude give up the hate.
1. Do you know why Grad went to DHB last week? You ever wonder because that was the only guy they left for 1 v 1 coverage. Since we only sent out the TE and 2 WR’s, they decided that we would have to beat them with DHB. Didnt you read anythign of the post game notes from grad and Cable?
2. So Grad got the delay of game for us. It’s 2nd and 6 to go for a TD. Wow you make it sound like 2nd and 16! Dude, if Hue got a clue that DMAC was our best weapon that day and ran the ball we would have scored. 6 frickin yds with 2 downs considering he was avg 4 per carry that day and our Oline couldnt protect.
Chris is right and you’re just hating dude.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
And DHB probably should’ve caught it. A difficult catch, yes, but one that good NFL WRs make more often than not.
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Are you serious?
That would’ve been a top 10 play of the week if DHB made that catch. Way underthrown and DHB showed off his hops trying to go BACKWARDS over the DB to get it.
Would’ve been a HELLUVA catch.
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Would’ve been a very nice catch. But the kind I see at least once in most games by just about every other team in the league.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
48. Good call we are way improved then last yr. I remember last yr we couldn’t move the ball up the field at all. I mean at all. We are scoring points this yr. Like everyone is saying it’s the d. We do good then boom we give up huge plays on d. 24 points is enough to win a game in the NFL. As bad as this team has been after the superbowl. It’s gonna take a while to fix this we are almost there. Cable has got to go period. I’m not a big fan of hue Jackson either. I love the raiders always will. I see alot of people talk alot of crap about this team. Well find another team. We don’t need haters. I won’t give up on them. I will be here no matter what. I know everyone is pissed just chill. There’s alot of balance in the league right know. Fix the o line, new head coach, new O cordinater. Couple more pieces on d. One more thing on hue he calls really bad games. Keep ur head up raider nation. D just can’t keep giving up big plays. It’s a good d just some one needs to put a fire under them. But sorry this coaching staff we have just isn’t capable. And that falls under the head coach. Mr exscuses himself. Says the same thing after each loss. Cable has got to go!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Deborah,
With Jawalrus, we couldnt even score 10 points per game. With Almighty we avg 23.5 per game. Easy enough for me.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
#194, are you John Herrera posting comments blaming the coaching staff and not the players Davis hand picked? We have been through so many coaches/players over the past seven seasons while there has been only one constant (besides losing football) and that is Al Davis. I hate to say it but this team is doomed as long as he continues to call the shots.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
And DHB probably should’ve caught it. A difficult catch, yes, but one that good NFL WRs make more often than not.
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Are you serious?
That would’ve been a top 10 play of the week if DHB made that catch. Way underthrown and DHB showed off his hops trying to go BACKWARDS over the DB to get it.
Would’ve been a HELLUVA catch.
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Isn’t it nuts? With JR under center, everyone loved to blame is lack of pocket presence, his accuracy, his weight, blah blah blah. All of a sudden, all any of these guys want to talk about is the receivers, the playcalling, the defense and anything thing else BUT the QB. Crazy stuff!
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If JR was guiding the team to 25 ppg and 350-400 yards of offense every week I sure as hell wouldn’t have been blaming it all on him. Fact is he was averaging about 9 ppg and the offense was going for maybe 200 yards.
I think JR’s weight as an issue was overblown. His accuracy, pocket presence and ability to make split second decisions while dropping back from center is why he stunk.
How many games did we lose with JR simply because a WR dropped a pass or we missed a clutch kick? Very few. Most of the time we were non-competitive and the offense was an embarrassment from beginning to end.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
With Almighty
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I think that says it all right there.
His name is Gardowski, thank you very much.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Deborah,
With Jawalrus, we couldnt even score 10 points per game. With Almighty we avg 23.5 per game. Easy enough for me.
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Dcklk,
We are 1-3, same as last year. The only difference is last year, we had a a win in the division under our belts. This year, we have an NFC victory over a perennial cellar dweller. Easy enough for you dumb ass?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Why are we still talking about Jamarcus?
Is he off the dope yet?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Is that the best you can do?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Why do you think we are 1-3 this year vs last year Deborah?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
The truth you are all right, the truth is always somewhere in the middle of a discussion like this. Grads played uneven enough to help the Texans get short fields to score. And yes the defense played poorly. That’s why you can’t turn the ball over. The Oline didn’t help either.
Let’s not pretend Grads is a great QB but he does put points on the board and no one can argue with that after the last 7 years.
I like what Grads is doing he makes plays and gives the team hope. Do we need better play at that position HELL YEAH if you have a great QB you want to give us. Please send him air freight next day. But we don’t have that do we?
So Grads is it, we have to play mistake free at least t/o free football to win………period
Can Grads do that? sometimes and when he does we’ll win, we he turns it over we’re probably going to lose now he’s got ot know that and do his best to get that done. Because it’s obvious these coaches are going to ask him to win games. Go Figure.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
J Hill couldn’t be more right about the LBs They can’t cover anybody, they constantly over-run the play and fill the wrong gaps. They can’t tackle in the open field.
Did I leave anything out? Good thing we went out and got big run stopping LB’s
When the other team rushes for 250 yards and our 3 LB’s have 4, 3 & 2 tackles OUCH that sucks!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Way off with your criticism of Gradkowski Debo. No way you can compare last season’s inept offense under Ja-slob-cus to this season. Gradkowski is by no means perfect but he is a HUGE upgrade over that fat ingrate Ja-fat-so.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 pm
in the 1970s the raiders got alot of wins by when d.lamonica had a bad game they brought in the field goal kicker george blanda and he would lead us to victory,so thats what we need to do now is bring our field goal kicker in when we are behind and let him qb.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Priest,
how about the D not get fcking reamed up the you know where the sun doesnt shine and maybe we can win a game.
How about Hue moves the pocket since we can’t protect? Plus you got a midget QB back there move him out so that he can use his mobility and get better lanes.
Grad did more than enough for us to win the game the last 2 weeks. He is the least of my worry on this team.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Way off with your criticism of Gradkowski Debo. No way you can compare last season’s inept offense under Ja-slob-cus to this season.
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I think the point is there was WAY more wrong with this offense than Russell. Russell was just the easy target, and rightfully so.
But the OT problems are still here and glaring!
The WR problems are glaring.
And most importantly, our front 7 is still a mess putting WAY too much pressure on our offense to score!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
We’ve got the QB, the running game and TE covered
All we need is a run defense.
Functioning wide receivers
And at least a simi effective offensive line
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Way off with your criticism of Gradkowski Debo. No way you can compare last season’s inept offense under Ja-slob-cus to this season. Gradkowski is by no means perfect but he is a HUGE upgrade over that fat ingrate Ja-fat-so.
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Huge upgrade???? How so? Stats? Who gives a fck?? How about our record? The standings? Last I checked, that’s the only thing that matters. Anyone want to give me Grads record as a starter? Dcklk is too scared.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:18 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Deborah,
With Jawalrus, we couldnt even score 10 points per game. With Almighty we avg 23.5 per game. Easy enough for me.
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Dcklk,
We are 1-3, same as last year. The only difference is last year, we had a a win in the division under our belts. This year, we have an NFC victory over a perennial cellar dweller. Easy enough for you dumb ass?
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Last year we beat a perennial cellar dweller in our own division and got absolutely demolished weeks 3-5:
Broncos 23, Raiders 3
Texans 29, Raiders 6
Giants 44, Raiders 7
Through 5 weeks last year we had 49 points.
In Gradkowski’s last 2 starts we have 47 points. Throw in the 2nd half against STL and we have 60 points in exactly HALF the time it took us to get to 49 last year.
Difference in record? No. Difference in the effectiveness, competency and in the confidence a fan should have in this offense now? Light years.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Jhill is right on the pass into the endzone to DHB the ball was thrown to far inside a DHB had to jump over the DB to make an attempt to catch it and almost did. Had he caught that pass that would’ve the top 10 plays af the day. The 2nd to the last play Grads threw behind him had he threw gthe ball to the sideline it would’ve been a 1st down.
I watch DHB closely he rarely gets a well thrown ball most of them are just in the vacinity. I think it’s a matter of the timing is not quite there. He and Grads neeed a lot of work.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Does NFL network still stream blacked out games for free starting a midnight?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
NFL.com, I meant. Does NFL.com still stream blacked out games to local fans at midnight?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Debo, can you honestly say that last season’s QB play is comparable to what we have witnessed this season?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
I clearly remember the moment Ja-worth-less came into the game against the Redskins and it was very apparent that the entire offense had ZERO confidence in him. Grads has the opposite effect on the team as the team seems to rally behind him. He is clearly an upgrade over last season despite our win/loss record
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Through 5 weeks last year we had 49 points.
In Gradkowski’s last 2 starts we have 47 points. Throw in the 2nd half against STL and we have 60 points in exactly HALF the time it took us to get to 49 last year.
Difference in record? No. Difference in the effectiveness, competency and in the confidence a fan should have in this offense now? Light years.
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Not that it matters, but lets take a closer look. Now we have an OC. Hue Jackson is a definite upgrade over Tom Cable. Also, the receivers aren’t rookies anymore. They have a year of experience under their belts, plus another full offseason and training camp. As bad as they were today, they’re a hell of a lot better than last year. Finally, if you needed the Raiders to win three in a row to save your life, who would you rather they face? Last year’s Den-Hou-NYG or this year’s STL-AZ-Hou? Think about it.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Jhill I agree there was way more wrong with this team than Russell, the fans just took out all there frustration on him for obvious reason the money, draft status and his personal issues. But eventhough we’re puttning points up we still can’t win for the very same reason as when Russell was here. That’s going to piss a lot of people off but it’s true.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
We would be 0-4 with Jamarcus right now and averaging less than 7 points a game.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
I clearly remember the moment Ja-worth-less came into the game against the Redskins and it was very apparent that the entire offense had ZERO confidence in him. Grads has the opposite effect on the team as the team seems to rally behind him. He is clearly an upgrade over last season despite our win/loss record
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How about the Denver game a week later?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Last thought for the night.
The way this team has performed for several years we can’t count any wins before they’re in the bank, but if we could grit one out against SD, we have 4 winnable games after that heading into the bye:
10/10 SD
10/17 @SF
10/24 @DEN
10/31 SEA
11/07 KC
11/14 Bye
I know it’s a bit optimistic and we’ve all been there before, but don’t count this team and this season out just yet. They’re competing and are really much better than they’ve been in years in a lot of ways. No one is running away with this division this year. SD’s already been picked off by KC and Seattle so don’t crown their azzes yet. And KC will need to keep it up for at least a few more weeks to make a believer out of me.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
What is your point Debo? What do you want to see done?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Through 5 weeks last year we had 49 points.
In Gradkowski’s last 2 starts we have 47 points. Throw in the 2nd half against STL and we have 60 points in exactly HALF the time it took us to get to 49 last year.
Difference in record? No. Difference in the effectiveness, competency and in the confidence a fan should have in this offense now? Light years.
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Not that it matters, but lets take a closer look. Now we have an OC. Hue Jackson is a definite upgrade over Tom Cable. Also, the receivers aren’t rookies anymore. They have a year of experience under their belts, plus another full offseason and training camp. As bad as they were today, they’re a hell of a lot better than last year. Finally, if you needed the Raiders to win three in a row to save your life, who would you rather they face? Last year’s Den-Hou-NYG or this year’s STL-AZ-Hou? Think about it.
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Did any of those three teams even make the playoffs last year?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 pm
You are giving him credit for leading one drive in that Denver game? You must be the last man standing the Jamarcus Russel fan club. I just saw his Fathead for $5 at Dick’s Sporting Goods if you dont already have one.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Anyone know if NFL.com still replays blacked out games at midnight?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Quite frankly thisis a much better team than the one Russell had DMC and DHB primarily. Our WR’s last year were putrid and the running game was very sporatic. Russll just made it look worse with his struggles. But if he had this team who knows unless you see it.
Now people will get pissed because they’ll visualize last years Russell. But if he were much improved who knows? We might get that chance to see one day. Who knows?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Anyone who doesn’t think that last pick was on Murphy is deranged. Period.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Tell Debo that.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
I dont plan on watching the UFL anytime soon Priest because I dont believe Russell will ever clean up his act to get back in the NFL
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
What is your point Debo? What do you want to see done?
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I want it blown up. I want Cable gone and a real coach to come in and clean house. I can’t stand watching this patchwork team. At least with JR, I could see flashes that made me believe things could get turned around in the future. As it turns out, we were way too green at the skill positions. I just don’t know what the hell we’re doing now. To me, it seems like Al is giving Cable enough rope to hang himself. I wish he’d just pull the trigger already.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Every time I watch the highlight of Murphy missing that catch I think the people blaming it on Gradkowski are even more deranged. All of NFL gameday crew says he should have caught it. Houston’s announcers on the replay with audio of their radio team says he should have caught it.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
chappy23us Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 pm
You are giving him credit for leading one drive in that Denver game? You must be the last man standing the Jamarcus Russel fan club. I just saw his Fathead for $5 at Dick’s Sporting Goods if you dont already have one.
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So he gets no credit for beating Denver??? You are kidding, right?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 pm
No one knows what we be doing if Russell had stayed and got himself together. No one knows except God himself so let’s just cut it short!! and deal with the here and now. Which is Grads and I want to win this next game.
I wnat Gradkowski to find a way t win this next game I don’t care how he does it. WE’re all pulling for him now it’sput up or shut up yime as far as I’m concerned. I DON’T WANT TO LOSE THIS GAME………….period forget our record aand all the rest of the crap beat SD…………….period
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 pm
What the hell were you watching when you saw flashes that things could get better? As far as blowing things up is concerned, unless Al is swept out too we are in for more of the same.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Anyone who doesn’t think that last pick was on Murphy is deranged. Period.
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Where the hell are you getting the idea that anyone is blaming Grads for the last pick? It was obviously on Murphy. But the 1st one was on Grads. Not on the playcaller, the protection or the receivers. On Grads. And it cost us the game.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
That was the highpoint of his miserable career Debo. Are you happy with that?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Hey Deborah,
You want stats then go get them yourself to back up your point. I know my stats well enough and I can tell you that Bruce is 2-3 in games he started and finished its much better than your Jawalrus. How’s that number spot in Jawalrus fan club looking for you as per Chappy?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Chappy a lot of people don’t believe a lot of things until they happen. That’s life!!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Deborah,
You mean the playcaller was so smart that he dialed up a down the field pass when his QB was just blasted on the previous drive? Do you think it ever entered the playcaller’s mind that we should do a screen or a run to ease him back in?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Every time I watch the highlight of Murphy missing that catch I think the people blaming it on Gradkowski are even more deranged. All of NFL gameday crew says he should have caught it. Houston’s announcers on the replay with audio of their radio team says he should have caught it.
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You act like Murphy was in the enndzone. We still needed to score a TD. And that would have only tied it. You are focusing on the wrong play.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:46 pm
That last dropped pas to Murphy was definitely on Murphy. He should have caught that pass – he took his eyes off the ball looking for where the hit was coming from. In addition he was not playing at 100%. He should not have been playing. A 100% backup WR should have done a better job than an 80% Murphy. Bad decision on the coach’s part. Using their logic, I’m surprised Schilins isn’t in there running on one leg.
Because Murphy was in there, the fault was his – doesn’t make any difference that he was playing hurt. If you are in there, catch the damn ball!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Gardowski had 3 turnovers!
All 3 of those turnovers were costly.
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People are not blaming Grads?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Deborah,
I think you better stop taking them pills. You’re the only one on here seeing flashes of greatness in Jawalrus. Even Al Davis had to admit there was no greatness in Jawalrus.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Murphy was afraid of the hit coming and he dropped the ball. That’s it plain and simple.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:49 pm
196. This bad stretch the raiders have been going through since the superbowl. Is all because of the coaches and Davis of coarse. Coaches getting fired left an right. Cable is not the answer though. Understand we have been through alot of coaches. But don’t keep cable around just because of that. He is not a head coach and does not know how to run this team at all. Half way good coaching staff with this team and we win games. Good o cordinator we don’t throw the ball every play like we did against Arizona in the red zone with d Mack in the backfield. Just plain stupid. Cable and hue just dont make the right calls at all. I mean cable should just be fired cause of his post game comments alone. Same thing every week. Um will fix it. We made some mistakes. Well fix it cable. I’m tired of his exscuses. Do something like coach the damn team.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
It’s not hard for me to see Russel pulling his life together and becoming a very good QB in this league, in fact I expect it.
But most people have never met Russell he was just a very young impressionable immature young man who got caught up. That stuff happens all the time, he’s 24 years old in 2-3 years that kid could be one the better QB in this league. You just don’t know.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Deborah,
You mean the playcaller was so smart that he dialed up a down the field pass when his QB was just blasted on the previous drive? Do you think it ever entered the playcaller’s mind that we should do a screen or a run to ease him back in?
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Grads was fine. You oughtta know. You were the one whp kissed his boo boos away when he went to the locker toom. Any QB that needs to be “eased back in” is a QB I don’t want on my team. Grads needs to get rid of his skirt.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
What cost us the game is our Def. getting pounded for over 200 yards on the ground and giving up 31 damn points.Argue about the QB all you want but the Def. lost the game-again!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
It’s not hard for me to see Russel pulling his life together and becoming a very good QB in this league, in fact I expect it.
But most people have never met Russell he was just a very young impressionable immature young man who got caught up. That stuff happens all the time, he’s 24 years old in 2-3 years that kid could be one the better QB in this league. You just don’t know.
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I agree. We should have been more patient. I don’t want to see him do it for someone else while we’re rolling out the “gritty gutty” overachiever week in and week out.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Good night all. Debo-pleasant dreams about Jamarcus
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
AIG
Belive or not Grads hasn’t won a game this year that he started. He’s 0-2
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
all they need to do is let met know if i should waste my time watching this year cuz im not putting up with much of this. we have 2 many guys out of position and it started to open the season. figurs making the team was a red flag. scott all of a sudden the starter and still starting over shawny = red flag.not having a true lead fb since orens injury also a red flag. if john hendu was healthy they would still start kelly inside with seymour. we have talent but not at their right position or on the depth chart. that whole s.brown pears thing was disgusting. why is jlh not playin as 3rd wr more? lack of focus on the running game and cc at rg is a mess. this team has no leadership or organized plan to succeed therefore the players will never get it right like they should. they need to clean this stuff up starting with the hc.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
He better be 1-2 next week I know that, or these fans will start turning on him. No t/o’s and play smart and he’ll win if he turns it over he’ll lose……….period
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
LOL! Grads can’t win games by himself moron. The point is this offense actually looks decent now They’re moving the ball and getting over 300 yards every week. The offense under Russell looked downright laughable.
Our problem today was the defense. And a WR that can’t catch when his team needs him most. End of story. Good night.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
LOL! Grads can’t win games by himself moron. The point is this offense actually looks decent now They’re moving the ball and getting over 300 yards every week. The offense under Russell looked downright laughable.
Our problem today was the defense. And a WR that can’t catch when his team needs him most. End of story. Good night.
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Wow! All of a sudden, the QB can’t win the game by himself. When did you come to this conclusion?
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
You know it’s real funny to see some of the guys in here that criticize fans for being too fickle and blaming everything on one guy, doing exactly that. The QB isn’t the reason we lost today. Pull your heads out of your azzes!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:02 am
Lefty – couldn’t agree more, man. This one’s on the defense, plain and simple. The Texans had their friggin way with this defense. Did whatever the heck they wanted to do whenever they wanted to do it. Pathetic! The entire defenseve unit should be embarrassed. This game serves as confirmation that the top 5 ranking was a mirage. This D stunk up the joint today!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Armond JLH played a lot today in the slot and at flanker. He made a great catch in a tough situation. Our young rokkie Lamarr Houston had his butt handed t him today. McClain got ahndled as well.
We just have to give Houston their just due that offense they have is for real, it’s a lot better than anyone is giving them credit. They run that damn thing darn near to perfection. That’s a playoff team for sure. Trust me.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 am
The D stunk up the joint all season last year.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:04 am
houston playin end is a problem. wasnt he a dt in a 4-3 and a end in the 3-4? we have it backwards. seymour is more of a 3 but could play end for us. i said i wanted a end in this draft cuz we arent quick enuff to the qb and now u see why. what happened to our pass rush? we have 3 dts houston kelly and sey but only 1 can start. i say our rotation should go like this if i was the coach. dts houston/hendu de shawny/sey. kelly gets moved to the bench cuz he doesnt make plays. houston is going to be quicker from the inside than seymour while sey is more powerful from the outside.shawny should go against the lt while hendu eats blocks in the middle. kelly can provide some rush as a backup on pass dwns. scott is only a pass rush specialist, get over it.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Grads needs to get rid of his skirt.
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LMAO! Say what? Are you on drugs or something? Grads took some shots today and kept bouncing back. Or did you not notice the Bruce chants when he shot bak up after getting pounded that first time?
October 4th, 2010 at 12:05 am
# priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
It’s not hard for me to see Russel pulling his life together and becoming a very good QB in this league, in fact I expect it.
But most people have never met Russell he was just a very young impressionable immature young man who got caught up. That stuff happens all the time, he’s 24 years old in 2-3 years that kid could be one the better QB in this league. You just don’t know.
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Of course it’s possible.But, IMO, not likely. He’s not the type to work for something. His history is based on everything being given to him as a result of his size & strength. That’s not going to fly any longer. I know you’ve always thought he was this great talent. We just disagree on that point. I think he’s a lazy ill-equipped person with a strong throwing arm. Unfortunately, that’s all he had. There was no leadership, heart, skill sets, accuracy, and zeal for being the best at whatever he was doing. He’s just another dumb would-be athlete who was in the right place at the right time and collected millions for doing absolutely nothing other than wreck our franchise for the next 3-4 years. We are fortunate he’s no longer here.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:07 am
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Armond JLH played a lot today in the slot and at flanker. He made a great catch in a tough situation. Our young rokkie Lamarr Houston had his butt handed t him today. McClain got ahndled as well.
We just have to give Houston their just due that offense they have is for real, it’s a lot better than anyone is giving them credit. They run that damn thing darn near to perfection. That’s a playoff team for sure. Trust me.
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Hell yeah.
Houston didn’t have the top rusher in the league coming in for no reason. It was embarrassing, but the better team won. On the other hand, we faced a porous defense today minus Eugene Wilson and Brian Cushing and still got our ass kicked.. That’s troubling.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Priesttj Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
He better be 1-2 next week I know that, or these fans will start turning on him. No t/o’s and play smart and he’ll win if he turns it over he’ll lose……….period
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Nope, Won’t happen. The fans are smart enough to know that while Bruce is no Peyton, he’s the best QB we have right now. Like it or not, the fans are behind this kid.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Good night ladies. Keep whining about the QB like it was all his fault. LOL!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:08 am
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LMAO! Say what? Are you on drugs or something? Grads took some shots today and kept bouncing back. Or did you not notice the Bruce chants when he shot bak up after getting pounded that first time?
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Nobody said he wasn’t a fan favorite.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:12 am
lbs as jhill said r a problem cuz 2 guys r really undersized de’s. whenever goethel gets healthy give him a shot at wlb and move groves to backup de on pass dwns. tell mcclain to stop actin like hes seen it all and be accountable after games. we really need to draft some LB’S who understand how to play the position. when it comes to the secondary its all about making plays. we force no to’s. do we move namdi back there and let cj start with routt? do we let cj play fs to see what he can do? we have no real ballhawks and its killing us. a defense that doesnt rush the qb fast enuff or stop the run must atleast force to’s to win games. we dont so we never stop our opponents momentum.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:12 am
Of course it’s possible.But, IMO, not likely. He’s not the type to work for something. His history is based on everything being given to him as a result of his size & strength. That’s not going to fly any longer. I know you’ve always thought he was this great talent. We just disagree on that point. I think he’s a lazy ill-equipped person with a strong throwing arm. Unfortunately, that’s all he had. There was no leadership, heart, skill sets, accuracy, and zeal for being the best at whatever he was doing. He’s just another dumb would-be athlete who was in the right place at the right time and collected millions for doing absolutely nothing other than wreck our franchise for the next 3-4 years. We are fortunate he’s no longer here.
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Dude, are you serious? Do you really think he accomplished the things he did as a prep and college QB just because he was a “lazy person with a strong throwing arm”??? Please explain yourself.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:12 am
TSR fans are behind whoever can win games if Gards doesn’t get a win soon they will turn on him I gaurantee you. If we don’t win come Sunday that’s when it will start and we better not lose to SF if he loses to SF they for sure will turn on him.
I gaurantee it!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:17 am
I’m not gonna blame grads. It’s hard to do anything with this o line. I’m a grads supporter. Understand two picks and a fumble. But he was under preasure alot. And mistakes happen when ur under preasure all the time are you have no faith in ur o line. Shoot look at what happened to cutler today. And he’s way better than any qb we have by far.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:17 am
JB I know how most feel abut Russell but i’ve seen way too much of this young man to think he’s LAZY that IMO is stupid. Misguided and with out direction yeah I agree. But the Lazy dumb label is ridiculous. He just didn’t put in the requisite work because like most young player sthey just don’t know how. Hell Grads and Campbell are just learning how, Grads has a lot to learn contrary to popular belief.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Priest-if the Off. continues to move the ball and score at least 23 points a game I don’t think they will turn on him so fast-only the ones who didn’t want him in the 1st place will.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:18 am
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:12 am
TSR fans are behind whoever can win games if Gards doesn’t get a win soon they will turn on him I gaurantee you. If we don’t win come Sunday that’s when it will start and we better not lose to SF if he loses to SF they for sure will turn on him.
I gaurantee it!!!
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I agree with 99% of the things you say, but I’m not so sure about this one. The Grads apologists can’t see past his “fire” and “energy”.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:19 am
last the oline is a mess and it started after the draft. the decision to move bc to rg was STUPID!!! alot of us didnt like it for this reason. there was no clear cut lt on the team and we drafted 2 for a reason. for all the talk of him playing quicker at rg where has it gotten him? he is a natural lt who couldve been developing for the last 6 months to play NOW. v was much more of a rg/rt type than he is. mario doesnt have the mentality to be consistent. cc sucks and shouldve been replaced by loper in the preseason to see how he and gallery look out there. there is no consistent plan by this damn team which has just fugged everything up.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:28 am
grads underthrew dhb in the endzone. he held the ball 2 long at times and didnt really use his legs as much as i thought he would. the damn oline is just pathetic. why cant we blow up their dlines and lbs like ours gets blown up? u never see dmc get those huge gaping holes to run thru or cut back 2 for a 70 yarder. what really makes me sick is that defense doesnt play with the kind of inspiration u would expect.i really dont like their demeanor out there.when the hell will they play angry instead of being so timid?
October 4th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Armond,I agree.You’d think at some point pride would take over and they would get angry.But that isn’t something we ever see.It wold be nice if they started playing like they had a chip on their shoulder and decided they weren’t going to get pushed around anymore.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Lefty12 I understand what you’e saying but the way he’s playing they will start to pick him apart and nitpik. Fans don’t undersatnd how hard it is to play that position and he is in no way playing as good a she is capable sometime in the future. I think he can get a lot better but they wont give him that chance if he doesn’t win…………..period trust me.
He has got to win games or they will turn on him.
Armond I keep saying the problem mmore than anything with this line is Cable keeps screwing with it. Cohesion is paramount in that unit more than any. You can’t have people thinking about anything pther than getting better at their position. And when you have guy’s thinking LT and C and G and LT it’s way too unsettling. I’ve never seen the Raiders do anything like this. Cable need to leave it alone.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:41 am
Priest,there may be grumbling,but the way JC started the year and the infamous slide will give him more time as people believe he is all we have right now.I’m not nearly ready to give up on him but if something happens,I’d hope Boller got the opportunity before JC was reinserted.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:49 am
That’s what I’m hoping to I like what I saw from Boller I just don’t know what would have to happen to get him in there.
However I’m not predicting Grads falls out pof favor. I think he’ll beat SD I didn’t know Houston’s offense was quite that prolific they’re really good. A lot better than I thought. Our defense just got outplayed. Michael Huff seems to go on these mystifying stoopers where he is just not in the game at all and today was one of them. He was horrible.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:55 am
He had at least 8 or 9 others with him.Unless that unit gets its act together we won’t win many games.The Off. might make the games competitive but they can’t overcome the Def. getting blown up the way they have a habit of doing.We aren’t the Colts or Pats that can count on outscoring teams.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:57 am
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:49 am
That’s what I’m hoping to I like what I saw from Boller I just don’t know what would have to happen to get him in there.
However I’m not predicting Grads falls out pof favor. I think he’ll beat SD I didn’t know Houston’s offense was quite that prolific they’re really good. A lot better than I thought. Our defense just got outplayed. Michael Huff seems to go on these mystifying stoopers where he is just not in the game at all and today was one of them. He was horrible.
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TJ, why do you think we’ll beat SD? Another great offense coming to town. And you’ve got to like SD’d D better than Houston’s. I don’t think it looks good.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:04 am
Because I think we played flat parts of the game, I think we have as good a running game as any IF we use it. The coaches have to see by now that passpro is suspect. The answer is in the running game.
I think we could’ve won this game if we used it. Houston is an outstanding team. IMO better than SD right now.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:04 am
Nite,Priest,talk with you later.Let’s beat SD and things won’t look so bad.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:04 am
priest, we just want you to give Gradkowski the same chance you gave Russell, which was 2 full seasons of support despite horrible play, followed by your crying and reaching out for him as he was shipped out of town. We just want you to get behind Grads just as much.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:07 am
If Huff can give us a great effort vs Gates we can win.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:07 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 1:04 am
priest, we just want you to give Gradkowski the same chance you gave Russell, which was 2 full seasons of support despite horrible play, followed by your crying and reaching out for him as he was shipped out of town. We just want you to get behind Grads just as much.
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It’s a hell of a lot easier to get behind a guy we picked #1 overall, has a golden arm, and was paid $40 million than a fringe NFL player. He gets one more game. That’s it.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:08 am
If the past is any guide, next week it should be the defense playing well again, while the offense losing it for us. Or special teams… in the end a loss is still a loss.
One other thought I had: looks like the coaches did prepare the players. Reading Jerry it seems players all said they knew what was coming. Still players (especially on D) did not or rather could not execute. It would have been nice if we really did have the league’s 2nd best defence, but this was a very temporary statistical fluke…
October 4th, 2010 at 1:12 am
It aint about ME giving him anything I already like Grads but his talent is his talent. Russell was an awesome talent who didn’t use it. Different story different circumstances. I don’t see in Grads what I saw in Russell different player but I’ll give him every chance he deserves.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:13 am
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 1:07 am
If Huff can give us a great effort vs Gates we can win.
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I don’t like this matchup at all. Things are going downhill on offense. If Houston can take our WRs away, SD can with Cason and Jammer. I agree we should run the ball more, but we’re gonna need a lot of points to beat them. Anything can happen, but this will be a tougher game IMO.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:19 am
Defensively maybe but I don’t think there is another offense in the NFL like Houston’s it’s very physical and explosive.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:24 am
# Raider Ray Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Sure, the defense took a step back today, but I saw a lot of positive things out there. This team is heading in the right direction. The ass kicking starts next week against the Chokers. I really believe we can still make the playoffs.
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That’s rich. Off you go, friend, to the funny farm.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:26 am
Nite Lefty12!
Adios!!
October 4th, 2010 at 2:24 am
Hard to believe some of you whining morons are calling Bruce a loser!
That’s one tough, resilient quarterback working with a totally crappy offensive line!
Houston was clearly the better team and yet Gradowski came back from seventeen points! That last drive was really something and the team didn’t quit as they have in the past. Losing is losing but Bruce sure as hell didn’t cause it.
When Houston came in we knew they had the best running back in the NFL and they were a really good offensive team. Why the effin hell are some of you whiners suprised that’s who showed up?!
October 4th, 2010 at 4:53 am
Oh yeah this run D is scary just a couple of big runs , they need to make Huff change # never seen 24 whiff on so many tackles what a piece of garbage make him a CB or get him off the field. How is the old 24# doing you know the team cancer. Again Alex Smith is a worst bust than Jamarcus how is that Cal kid doing at GB Niners way to take a tiny hands chump.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 5:21 am
I think the Texans ran that misdirection play-action bootleg thing about 6 times (the very first two offensive plays as well).
Each time, I think all 11 of our defenders bit on the fake.
They were literally 0 for 66 in not overpursuing.
Great job guys!!
October 4th, 2010 at 5:27 am
Bruce was working on a 95+ passer rating before the Murphy dropped pass/INT.
His worst play was the fumble before the half. Of course, it was our typical stellar job by our OT’s, but you can take the sack, but not fumble the ball.
Ball-security Bruce!!!!!
Anyways, we shall be very competitive next week against SD, and a break here or there and we can win it.
But first things first, let’s get JLH the hell out of there on punts. He’s pathetic these days!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 5:37 am
The great news is that we are still ranked #10 in both total offense and total defense!!
October 4th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Good Morning Nation…
…Still too pissed off to watch another Tom Cable, “we’re over that there hump” press conference.
That man is a buffoon.
It was a very tough pill to swallow, watching the Raiders fall again. The positives I can say briefly is that the Raiders are competing against good teams, and it is going to take awhile for the game to slow down for them. This is a season of baby steps.
Problems the Raiders have right now:
Offensive line is terrible. Cooper Carlisle shouldn’t be a starter. Mario Henderson is not a starting caliber NFL LT. Samson Satele is just a backup at best. Langston Walker is living out his final games in the NFL. He no longer can be a force at RT with all his injuries. Robert Gallery is also breaking down, and is becoming injury prone.
Special Teams are horrible. Coach John Fassel is the worst special teams coach in the league. They are poorly coached, undisciplined, with no playmakers, and no coordination. Guys are not staying in their lanes, thereby allowing returns much greater than they should be. Janikowski is not consistent enough. Johnnie Lee Higgins is terrible as a punt returner and should no longer be a punt returner. JLH once was a ST star back in ’08, but he is now a shadow of his former self.
Defense is…is…can’t come up with a fitting description.
Perhaps: Oaklan Rai ers, Still No D to be found anywheres.
We need a fulltime NT. Notice that the only time we stopped the run consistently was the Rams game when we had big John Henderson in there. TK and Seymour can’t stop the run, even when on the field at the same time. I’ve said this since before game #1, but I will say it again. Trevor Scott should not be starting DE, Shaughnessy should be. TK is on the sidelines for too many plays. Our safeties are not getting it done. Our LB corps, led by rookie Rolando McClain isn’t getting it done either. Either lined up wrong, or reacting poorly. Our defense looks very predictable with little imagination.
Coaching is abysmal. Tom Cable is not head coaching material. WR coach Sanjay Lal is a terrible coach. Hue Jackson’s game plan is too pass heavy. The running lanes are there, and too often we are passing in running situations.
Offense needs an identity. It has been high powered, and compared to last year when the Raiders didn’t have the aptitude to score 20 points on offense, this group is a threat to score consistently with Bruce Gradkowski. But our WR group is injured and depth is paper thin. Louis Murphy dropped a pass on the last drive that would have made the game very interesting at the end. An inexcusable drop. DHB looked like the groin slowed him, and it was clear he wasn’t getting the separation he had in previous games.
Needs: An real live NFL head coach, a big blocking FB, NFL caliber offensive linemen, an NT – preferably a younger, equally talented clone of big John Henderson.
October 4th, 2010 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yeah…it was entertaining at the end when the game seemed out of reach…until Murphy inexcusably tipped that darn pass… I left after that!
Tell you what…32,000 sold, probably under 30 at the game…that place was loud in the 4th…I mean really…
October 4th, 2010 at 5:49 am
FireJohnMarshall.com
October 4th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Raiders are mastering the pulled groins, quads, etc. lead of the league. Who the heck is the the personal trainer? Fire him/assistants. They are dropping like flies.
October 4th, 2010 at 5:53 am
Really…Fire John Marshall? Who’s stepping in?
October 4th, 2010 at 5:54 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.JUST FIRE BABY,NOMOREFARGAS.FROM THE RUN-D,TO THE LEFT TACKLE,TO THE STARTING QB,TO THE OWNER,,
October 4th, 2010 at 5:55 am
You were not thinking of firing John Marshall after the first 2 preseason games. Were you?
October 4th, 2010 at 5:55 am
Yes, there is definitely a problem with the conditioning. It reminds me when the Yankees went with some alternative-yoga conditioning coach a few seasons back. Half the team had groin and hamstring strains by mid-April. The guy was fired by May and everything returned to normal.
Hmmm, I wonder if the Raiders hired that guy?
October 4th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Worked a night shift yesterday so didn’t know the score till late.
Just like to thank the Rai ers for depressing the crap out of me.Back to normal…..
October 4th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Except for a nice 27 yard dart that JLH snagged, he has looked terrible on ST’s. He needs to be replaced.
To be fair, McClain looked pretty much as weak as as his predecessor, Cap’n Kirk.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:02 am
HWNRDR,GOOD DAY.TOP 10 IN BOTH OFF. & DEF. COULD THAT BE CONSIDERD DRESSING UP A PIG.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Left Coast Wake up!!! It’s 6:00 AM outthere, rise and shine.
9 oclock here, 3 cups of joe down…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:04 am
2pm over here and 2 cups behind you.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:04 am
what up NATION????
Left coast is awake….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:05 am
That may as well be…dressing the pig…hahaha!
Funny thing though…they were still blitzing in the 4th. Hue did something to change that up…Bruce did manage to almost make a comeback down by 17!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:06 am
To be fair, McClain looked pretty much as weak as as his predecessor, Cap’n Kirk.
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cannot disagree however, he is a rookie so he gets the ” he is a rookie the game will slow down for him” card…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Not going to attempt to dress a pig. But we had a real chance at the end to tie. If Murphy just makes that routine catch…
We could have been in OT, and then anything could have happened. Even though the Texans were clearly superior yesterday.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Can’t nobody go out there and say nothing after they run for 200 yards in your house without their best player, basically.—Kelly
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Hey, watch the triple negatives!! Didn’t you go to college???
I’ve been saying for 8 yrs “STOP THE F#$KING RUN!!!
Just get this one thing right then move on to the next monumental problem.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:08 am
To be fair, McClain looked pretty much as weak as as his predecessor, Cap’n Kirk.
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cannot disagree however, he is a rookie so he gets the ” he is a rookie the game will slow down for him” card…
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If he’s got nothing in front of him to protect him then it’s never going to improve.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Agree….We need big John H. back in the worst way.
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If he’s got nothing in front of him to protect him then it’s never going to improve.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:11 am
We could be winners if we follow a simple formula;
1. Next 5 years draft for the trenches.
2. Draft guys who actually played the position in collge. No special needs projects of any sort.
2011 draft
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
2012 Draft
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
2013 Draft
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
2014 Draft
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
2015 Draft
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Our trenches have been killing us…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:12 am
If he’s got nothing in front of him to protect him then it’s never going to improve.
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100% accurate….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Inactive for the Raiders today against Houston are LB Travis Goethel, LB Ricky Brown, G Robert Gallery, DT John Henderson, CB Walter McFadden, CB Jeremy Ware and WR Chaz Schilens.
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We need Henderson & Gallery back … quick!
Goethel > McClain
October 4th, 2010 at 6:13 am
Thec07…..
never happen…..
October 4th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Goethel > McClain
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disagree, without a run stopper you coul put anybody in the NFL at MLB they would be fending off hogs all day…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Except for a nice 27 yard dart that JLH snagged
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Uhh thats more than Murphy, DHB & Ford did combined yesterday
October 4th, 2010 at 6:15 am
wuuuhuuu oth my FFL teams won this week =)
October 4th, 2010 at 6:15 am
We need Henderson & Gallery back … quick!
Goethel > McClain
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Morning RRS
Ford > JLH
October 4th, 2010 at 6:16 am
so … does everybody still think i’m crazy for wanting a starter quality nose tackle in Oakland ???
can’t wait until JFB comes in with the glamorous new Run D stats!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:16 am
neilb Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:13 am
Thec07…..
never happen…..
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why not I ask rhetorically…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:16 am
New York is up and after vommiting watch Jet highlights, I know I feel secure in seeing my Raiders flop as usual. Same freaking leaky defense mental lapses gap problems, no matter who they bring in the same results. I take no pleasure in seeing upgrades on offense when the D continually let’s me down. I have been a Raider fan for years, the defense sucks! this is a quick turnaround league after almost 8 horrific years nothing changes except Al’ diapers!!!!!No personel man, no scouting, no GM!!! keep wishing for Gruden, nothing will change unless the ownership does.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:16 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Except for a nice 27 yard dart that JLH snagged
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Uhh thats more than Murphy, DHB & Ford did combined yesterday
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Yes…That was a nice one…but Ford did return the opener 64 yards. Should have been 15 yards tacked on to that horse-collar tackle that was made…but…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:16 am
so … does everybody still think i’m crazy for wanting a starter quality nose tackle in Oakland ???
can’t wait until JFB comes in with the glamorous new Run D stats!
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Not Crazy….you speak TRUTH!!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:18 am
How many times was FORD on the Field? JLH got most of the snaps in the slot….
JFORD targeted 1 time, 1 catch….
Folks in hear still want JLH’s head….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Hwnrdr: it’s amazing to me that you guys compare JLH with kick returners
when has Higgins EVER been a kick returner for Oakland?
he’s a slot receiver and punt returner man. always has been
YOU PEOPLE!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Folks in hear still want JLH’s head….
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are they allergic to playmakers?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am
NMILLER or JFORD should be on punt returns….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Where does JLH rank in the NFL as a slot receiver?
Lets assume that Wes Welker is the #1 guy.
hmmm..
October 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:16 am
so … does everybody still think i’m crazy for wanting a starter quality nose tackle in Oakland ???
can’t wait until JFB comes in with the glamorous new Run D stats!
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You’re crazy because we need 2 run stuffing DT’s!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am
JFORD had 64 yard KOR…what did JLH do on ST???
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
guest123 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Where does JLH rank in the NFL as a slot receiver?
Lets assume that Wes Welker is the #1 guy.
hmmm..
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dead last….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Afternoon LMN…..
How you holding up with both the Rai ers and Liverpool in the crapper?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
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You’re crazy because we need 2 run stuffing DT’s!
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I’d settle 4 one
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
by the way … Gradkowski sucks!
3 turnovers yesterday
even though the Run D was trashed, Grads had an opportunity to win the game. he did his best Philip Rivers impersonation and choked in crunch time. folded like a cheap tent
October 4th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
guest123 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Where does JLH rank in the NFL as a slot receiver?
Lets assume that Wes Welker is the #1 guy.
hmmm..
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dead last….
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WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:24 am
You’re crazy because we need 2 run stuffing DT’s!
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LOL @ Neil
very true …
October 4th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Hmmmmm chicken…..
October 4th, 2010 at 6:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
by the way … Gradkowski sucks!
3 turnovers yesterday
even though the Run D was trashed, Grads had an opportunity to win the game. he did his best Philip Rivers impersonation and choked in crunch time. folded like a cheap tent
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HAHAHA!!
folded like a cheap tent. I guess he can’t transport his a piece of his soul into Murphy’s lame as$. He can’t catch his picture perfect throws for himself.
Grads was money….
I thought he was out of the game for sure when he went down.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:26 am
JLH is a maker no doubt however, he should be targeted more than DHB at this point…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:28 am
I thought he was out of the game for sure when he went down.
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Yeah they were knocking the SH!T out of him out there, he stright manned up…Grads is stand up period, if we had half an oline he could win us some games….
but our Dline would just give it right back….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:26 am
JLH is a maker no doubt however, he should be targeted more than DHB at this point…
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Even I agree with this, as DHB’s groin has made him useless. The only thing that made him useful was his legs. His hands of stone make even JLH an upgrade at this point.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:29 am
the run defense is perhaps the worst in the league after moving Seymour to DT and drafting McClain to replace Kirk …
yet all you guys can seem to complain about is our best WR yesterday?
typical semi-pro bloggers!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Wait…why are you attacking me for Rockstar?
JLH was a KR a couple years ago, right? until Justin Miller came in and took that spot…
Also…I was ansering you on Ford. JLH did good yesterday…as a receiver.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:29 am
the run defense is perhaps the worst in the league after moving Seymour to DT and drafting McClain to replace Kirk …
yet all you guys can seem to complain about is our best WR yesterday?
typical semi-pro bloggers!
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Come off of it man, read the whole story we allready covered the Dline, if you want to revist it we can…by the way you are late this morning, letting work get in the way of a great blog sesssion, with all us semi’s….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:31 am
yet all you guys can seem to complain about is our best WR yesterday?
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We have WR’s at the Rai ers?…when did this happen?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:32 am
I had some thoughts to say but Guest123 at post #298 just said them all for me. Spot on, everything.
I want to add that I was one of the people who was on the side of “We don’t need a big NT.” I’m here to admit my error. The difference in the run D with him against St. Louis & Arizona and without him yesterday was night and day. And Henderson is a guy on the downside of his career. Imagine what a young guy in his prime could accomplish for us right now.
Name to keep your eye on when draft season approaches: Jerrell Powe out of Ole Miss. Dude is almost impossible to move.
Seymour and Henderson are a winning combination on the interior. Seymour and Kelly or Bryant are a recipe for disaster.
I won’t bag on McClain because he got the Captain Kirk treatment yesterday: getting demolished by oncoming guards. No coincidence his best two games were with Henderson in front of him. (Everyone on the field execpt DMac was a disaster in the Tennessee debacle)
How many times did I have to hear Greg Papa say yesterday as a big Texans run was unfolding: “Led into the hole by Vonta Leach” Time to activate Tonga from the practice squad. Keep Reece as a pass catching option.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Trevor Scott needs to buried in the depth chart. Shougnessy needs to start and take most of the reps. We need big John Henderson in the worst way back. TK is taking too many plays off. The TK/Seymour pair isn’t working.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:32 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Wait…why are you attacking me for Rockstar?
JLH was a KR a couple years ago, right? until Justin Miller came in and took that spot…
Also…I was ansering you on Ford. JLH did good yesterday…as a receiver.
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Hwnrdr, If this is directed at me I was not directing any post at you Bro….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:34 am
We have WR’s at the Raiders?…when did this happen?
you are late this morning, letting work get in the way of a great blog sesssion
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LOL!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Seymour and Kelly or Bryant are a recipe for disaster.
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Roflmao…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:36 am
A few positive things:
-Gradkowski is the man. The offense can at least move the ball consistently under him and that’s with a tissue paper O-line in front of him.
I’d actually like to see Grads play with a lead for once instead of always having to try and engineer these miracle comebacks.
-Bush looks to be 100 percent.
-Stanford Routt, man. He’s really kept up. I can’t believe it.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:36 am
why are you attacking me for Rockstar?
JLH was a KR a couple years ago, right? until Justin Miller came in and took that spot…
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Hwnrdr: I wasn’t attacking anybody. I just lump all the Higgins haters into one pile and address them as a collective group. RUE THE DAY!
by the way, our kick returner prior to Justin Miller was Chris Carr (I think?)
October 4th, 2010 at 6:36 am
We could be winners if we follow a simple formula;
1. Next 5 years draft for the trenches.
2. Draft guys who actually played the position in collge. No special needs projects of any sort.
2011-2015 drafts
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Our trenches have been killing us…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:37 am
trade McClain for a recipe for disaster!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:37 am
No special needs projects of any sort.
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Thec: cut Bruce Campbell?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:38 am
that’s with a tissue paper O-line in front of him.
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That line is going to get every offensive player we have killed, esp the RB’s and QB’s…DMAC was also getting hammered….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Trevor Scott needs to buried in the depth chart. Shougnessy needs to start and take most of the reps
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Word to that. This continued experiment with Scott as base end is inexplicable. He is an awesome 3rd down pass rush specialist ala Clemons and Burgess. Why try to make him something he’s not?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:38 am
I won’t bag on McClain because he got the Captain Kirk treatment yesterday: getting demolished by oncoming guards. No coincidence his best two games were with Henderson in front of him. (Everyone on the field execpt DMac was a disaster in the Tennessee debacle)
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I’ll reserve bagging on McClain until we get big John H back. If he still is getting blown up in the secondary, I’ll reconsider.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:37 am
trade McClain for a recipe for disaster!
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LOL, we disagree about RoMac, but that was hilarious.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:39 am
I want to add that I was one of the people who was on the side of “We don’t need a big NT.” I’m here to admit my error.
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PA = a real man
October 4th, 2010 at 6:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:37 am
No special needs projects of any sort.
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Thec: cut Bruce Campbell?
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No… Put him at the position he played in college…
why draft someone and make them something they are not???? why not just draft a person who is familiar with a position, who played it in college???
thats what most NFL teams do right?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:36 am
We could be winners if we follow a simple formula;
1. Next 5 years draft for the trenches.
2. Draft guys who actually played the position in collge. No special needs projects of any sort.
2011-2015 drafts
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Our trenches have been killing us…
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Imagine if we had drafted Michael Oher instead of DHB?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Trevor Scott
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He was getting ate alive yesterday….
They were also running right at houston…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Time to go.
Have a great Monday everyone.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:42 am
later Neil. thanks for lightening the mood in here this AM!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:43 am
RR argument about kirk morrison does have merit.
You put a run stopper in front of anyone they will make plays… we should have taken a true run clogger at pick 2 or 3….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Take care Neil…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:45 am
argument about kirk morrison does have merit
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can you believe the Jags beat the Colts yesterday?
that was wild!
October 4th, 2010 at 6:46 am
can you believe the Jags beat the Colts yesterday?
that was wild!
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any given sunday bro….
October 4th, 2010 at 6:46 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:43 am
RR argument about kirk morrison does have merit.
You put a run stopper in front of anyone they will make plays… we should have taken a true run clogger at pick 2 or 3….
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Perhaps, but Houston will be the best pick of the 2010 draft when we look back on it. I’m glad we didn’t get that tub of lard Cody. He was going to eat himself out of the league, if he didn’t end up in B’more where Ray Lewis would constantly bust his chops.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Rockstar…I’m not a JLH hater, but…that’s ok…moving on. Sorry about that bro…little sleep deprived here…thought you were attacking me…its all good. JLH was the KR and was bad at it. Miller came in and took over and JLH exploded on PR and Miller had 2 TD’s as KR. Why we got rid of Miller is way beyond me!
Thec07…nothing was directed at you, bro…I never do that in here.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Stop updating FOX news headline stories.
Let’s talk Raiders please.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Perhaps, but Houston will be the best pick of the 2010 draft when we look back on it. I’m glad we didn’t get that tub of lard Cody. He was going to eat himself out of the league, if he didn’t end up in B’more where Ray Lewis would constantly bust his chops.
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You might be right for the record I like houston, guy plays hard and mean. A few run cloggers could have been had at 3…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:53 am
bbl…got a 10:00
October 4th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Quarter season report card
HC…….D
OC…….D
DC…….F
QB…….C
WR…….C
DL…….F
OL…….F
ST…….F
RB…….A
DB…….C
LB…….D
TE…….B
October 4th, 2010 at 6:54 am
work to do. you guys may resume the Higgins propaganda
BBL
October 4th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Quarter season report card
HC…….D
OC…….D
DC…….F
QB…….B
WR…….C
DL…….F
OL…….F
ST…….F
RB…….A
DB…….C
LB…….D
TE…….B
Actually need to change the QB grads has balled…
October 4th, 2010 at 6:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:54 am
work to do. you guys may resume the Higgins propaganda
BBL
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lol
October 4th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Top of the morning good people …
Let me set a couple of you AM gloaters straight!
It is CRYSTAL clear after 4 weeks that THE main issue with our Dline is still the DEs! In particular, Trevor Scott and the rookie Houston.
Next in line are the THREE rookie LBs we have starting for us.
Did I mention the converted CB play SS who makes ZERO plays and gets beat 10 times a game?
All you have to do is look at the first 2 plays Houston ran in the game to see what opposing coaches think of our defense.
Play action boot rollout to the no named TE was the first play they ran and THEY botched. It was so wide open, they ran the exact same play again, and it was wide open again. No contain by the DE, and the SS and LBs were NO WHERE to be found on the play.
Our defense is TERRIBLE! Ridiculous holes in the middle and on the edges.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Houston needs to go back to the 3 tech, and we need to end the Tommy Kelly experiment as a starter.
But the real question is what do we do at DE?
The only decent every down DE we have is ShoNasty.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:58 am
JLH on punt returns is another expirement that needs to end.
No problem with him playing in the slot, but it’s painful to watch him on PR.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Well at least we get to see the Lakers today
October 4th, 2010 at 7:02 am
The only decent every down DE we have is ShoNasty.
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Richardson getting hurt was a tough blow. Dude was a solid base DE, decent against both the run and as a pass rusher. Wasn’t going to set the world on fire ever, but much better than Trevor Scott or, to this point at least, an out-of-position Lamarr Houston.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:04 am
I wish I hated sports…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Scott needs to be relagated to ST and 3rd downs…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:06 am
I wish I hated sports…
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ROFLMAO….man sometimes I want to check out also but cant do it…Its like an addiction… too much love for the team…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Wasn’t Kelly originally a DE? Maybe this could work:
Kelly-Henderson-Seymour-Shaughnessy
Houston backs up Henderson, Bryant backs up Seymour, Scott relieves Kelly on 3rd down pass rush situations.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:07 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:04 am
I wish I hated sports…
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LMFAO, I feel ya, bro.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:08 am
If you cross the American border, you get to pick lettuce in the blazing sun for $7 an hour, and then get demonized by racist Republicans.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:10 am
It is CRYSTAL clear after 4 weeks that THE main issue with our Dline is still the DEs! In particular, Trevor Scott and the rookie Houston.
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They ran right at both DE’s yestreday….scott looked the most ridiculous though, he was getting eating alive… hopefully that experiment is over.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:11 am
So true Thec07.
Scott is a third down pass rusher. Period.
And we should have picked a nose tackle in the first round last year. If John Henderson could play every down, we could defend the run.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Seymour-Houston-Henderson-Shaughnessy.
TK and scott to the bench….
October 4th, 2010 at 7:12 am
They ran right at both DE’s yestreday….scott looked the most ridiculous though, he was getting eating alive… hopefully that experiment is over.
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I don’t know why it was ever actually re-started in the first place. The Seymour trade happened because the 2009 pre-season made it abundantly clear that Scott couldn’t hold the edge against the run to save his soul.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:12 am
1-3
NBA season started yesterday.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:14 am
302.
who’s stepping in? we have only one d cord and that’s al. crappy schemes.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:15 am
And we should have picked a nose tackle in the first round last year. If John Henderson could play every down, we could defend the run.
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I was hoping we went NT with either the first or second or third pick. get a big fat run stuffer that can eat 2 guys… Mcclain is getting eatin becuase of the holes in front…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Hobs Gnarly Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:14 am
302.
who’s stepping in? we have only one d cord and that’s al. crappy schemes.
Exactly! So why Fire Marshall?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Dakota I’ll say it now , either 72+ or 34 in a row either one but want to see it.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am
by the way … Gradkowski sucks!
3 turnovers yesterday
even though the Run D was trashed, Grads had an opportunity to win the game. he did his best Philip Rivers impersonation and choked in crunch time. folded like a cheap tent
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Another Raider Rockstar I didn’t watch the game moment.
The only time Bruce played well was the 4th Quarter!!!
How did he fold up like a tent?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:20 am
404.
for that matter al’s are o cord and head coach too. bad schemes all around.
the difference in the game was planning. houston did a great job in coaching and calling plays and their overall game plan.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:22 am
need to play action, roll grads out instead of being in the pocket. houston did it beautifully and they have the same protection problems.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:23 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Dakota I’ll say it now , either 72+ or 34 in a row either one but want to see it.
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I’d rather see 73 wins…we already hold the other record.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:25 am
I have not seen the game yet…what the hell happened to our run D? And did Houston just take their foot off the gas late in the game…that’s what appeared to happen.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Play action boot rollout to the no named TE was the first play they ran and THEY botched. It was so wide open, they ran the exact same play again, and it was wide open again. No contain by the DE, and the SS and LBs were NO WHERE to be found on the play.
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Like I said, they ran the play a good half-dozen times, and all 11 defenders bit, EVERY TIME!!!
Scott even followed through and tackled the pretend ball-carrier one time, lol.
Amazing, you think one guy might say, “You know, I am going to keep my weight going the other way for split second, just to see if they run that play-fake misdirection bootleg for the tenth time today”.\
Nope.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:26 am
McFadden 129 yards….but injured.
What is with all of the hamstring issues on this team?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Man that game almost killed me yesterday. I knew this day would come where we would miss a veteran WR to come up witht he clutch catch. DHB and Murphy are play makers with questionable hands. Excuse me the verdict is still out on DHB. We could have really used an Owens yesterday. I said at the start of the year I am not happy with our WR rotation. I would have designed a play to go with JLH before Murphy. Chaz can not be counted on with his injuries. We had some veteran guys at the start of the season and we passed on them.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Well at least we fought hard to the end. Too bad our WRs decided they didnt feel like catching the ball again. Oh and FANTASTIC that ANOTHER guy (DMAC) has a hammy injury. Step one. Strenght and Conditioning coach is fired today. Cable is on notice. The only saving his job is that AL doesnt want the publicity of another in season change. If we lose to SD next week, Cable will likely be gone though.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:30 am
McFadden
554 total yards…year of redemption is on track…so long as this injury is not serious.
I am getting tired of seeing McFadden get them to the goal line and then Bush getting the glory of the TD (or the attempts anyhow).
Fooooking BS. It is not like Bush is a power runner like ZC or something.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Grads has the heart of a lion and a arm of a mouse. No velocity on his ball man. He also threw a number of balls into triple coverage. They should have tried Campbell.
Every defense in this league knows he likes to roll right out the pocket and throw back. They respect his abilityt o scramble but not his arm.
The sack he took at the half he held the ball way to long he looked Russel.
If this team made it to 500 I would be shocked
October 4th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Zach Crockett…didn’t the Raiders only miss 0ne (1) 3rd and one all year round with that guy on the roster?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Garbagekowski….you did your best, but not quite good enough….still gotta call you the Garbage man.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Quarter season report card
HC…….D
OC…….D
DC…….F
QB…….B
WR…….C
DL…….F
OL…….F
ST…….F
RB…….A
DB…….C
LB…….D
TE…….B
we have been competitive just not enough…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:33 am
JFB thats on coaching. The coaches werent identifying that play and telling guys to key on it.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Garbagekowski….you did your best, but not quite good enough….still gotta call you the Garbage man.
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ROFLMAO….
He had some mistakes but he is a warrior…
Our Oline is going to get all of our offensive players killed though…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Scott even followed through and tackled the pretend ball-carrier one time, lol.
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Hill air e us….
October 4th, 2010 at 7:36 am
1-3….isn’t that what Kiffin was in year 2 when he got fired?
Cable is what, 10-22 now…I hope Al doesn’t fire him mid-season, but when you will less than 1/3 of your games it is time to go.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Fooooking BS. It is not like Bush is a power runner like ZC or something.
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Bush got in the game and balled also…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Thec I think Hugh is doing better than a “D”. We lead the NFL in trips to the red zone, the players (until this week) were not capitalizing. They got better and scored each time in the red zone. Our Offense is MUCH better than it had been and is the reason we have been competitive. The fact is our defense just isnt getting it done. We cant stop the run.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Fooooking BS. It is not like Bush is a power runner like ZC or something.
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Bush got in the game and balled also…
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yes, it looks like he played well…and on drives where he gets us to the goal line he should get the carries for the TD…unless of course he is out of breath.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Yeah, Hue is doing okay….imagine what he could do if he had a legit NFL QB and even an average o-line!
October 4th, 2010 at 7:40 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Thec I think Hugh is doing better than a “D”. We lead the NFL in trips to the red zone, the players (until this week) were not capitalizing. They got better and scored each time in the red zone. Our Offense is MUCH better than it had been and is the reason we have been competitive. The fact is our defense just isnt getting it done. We cant stop the run.
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the red zone brakdowns all fall on the OC…
I will humour you…Put your up so we can copare notes Bro…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Yeah, Hue is doing okay….imagine what he could do if he had a legit NFL QB and even an average o-line!
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We would be the ravens…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Grads WOULD be a legit NFL qb with an average OLine…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Scott even followed through and tackled the pretend ball-carrier one time,
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This has got to make NFL follies….Classic…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:42 am
The breakdowns arent all on Hue in the redzone. The players HAVE to be held accountable to make the plays. They arent doing it.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Were do you begin on this situation. I myself am so tired of not being able to talk smack to friends when there teams lose. Because damm we lose, its funny I had to keep my mouth shut. The thing is right at the beginning even two years ago this concept of no hitting and smashing during training camp. I hated this CLASSROOM teaching style. The only way to toughen up a run defense is to have them hitting hard smashing during training camp kinda like B-more. The other thing is how many times have watched real defensive tackles there on the board and we didnt take em, I remember Baltimore NT nata being there for the taking or how about recently the huge guy in GB from boston college we could taken him. This team is getting better but slower than we should see and that because of the way it run. Another thing I actually read most of the post just to see if or how many guys would say well Grads he did kill us in this game and if campbell would have done the turnovers and int the exact same way . Everyone would have been calling fo his head. Its just Jason Campbell as I ve said all alone has been scapegoated for the WR and O line and even the 7 dropback pass style. Hell even for the guy having sense to slide and save his body for the long hall was talked about. The team does play hard for grads but the guy isnt better , he is good for this crappy line and notice how he did when he had to stay in the pocket. I give credit he showed me something when he came back and brought the team back within a chance to win but there was a point in the game we could have went on top and kept going for a win. He killed us also doing what he does best trying to make something out of nothing. Every Qb changes after being hit hard and campbell got his butt torn up right at the start in preseason while bobby brister whatever his name was came off the bench. Weres that guys now?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:42 am
What was funny is that even the camera man know where the ball was going….
October 4th, 2010 at 7:42 am
We would be the ravens…
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Minus the stellar front 7 on D
October 4th, 2010 at 7:44 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:42 am
The breakdowns arent all on Hue in the redzone. The players HAVE to be held accountable to make the plays. They arent doing it.
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Hue is an improvement from last year which is why he got a D. His play calling is sub standard, thats my opinion. Be brave strong and bold and put your own report card up, those are my opinions based on what I see…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Get a GM , if this season hue jackson doesnt show something bring back like so many of us have ask the real RAIDER john gruden . No reason this football nut isnt coaching. Id follow that guy were ever he coaches. He s like Bill in NE , they love to learn more football stuff offenses and ideas and use em.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Why? You did the work for me… my only disagreement is with Hue, and Im not saying he is an A… I think a C+ is fair. Hues play calling is DEFINITELY hamstringed (pun intended) by the limitations of the OLine and the fact that we need to leave extra blockers in far too often. We cant even run a 3 wide set on 4th and 16… No the OCs fault.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Example
Raiders have the ball 1st and 10 on our 3 yrd line following a punt, that should have been challgened as a touchback.
1st and 10 – A QB sneak
2nd and 10 – run reece up the middle
3rd and 9 – attempt a pass
3 and done….the brilliance of Hue…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:49 am
also why when you watch other teams , you notice the defensive guys PLAY TO THE BALL. Our guys need to go to the ball, locate that crap . get off blocks
October 4th, 2010 at 7:50 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Why? You did the work for me… my only disagreement is with Hue, and Im not saying he is an A… I think a C+ is fair. Hues play calling is DEFINITELY hamstringed (pun intended) by the limitations of the OLine and the fact that we need to leave extra blockers in far too often. We cant even run a 3 wide set on 4th and 16… No the OCs fault.
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Ok I see your point however, C+ would be stretching it as Hue goes away from the run too fast… Iwll say D+ and thats pushing it…lol
October 4th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Que Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:49 am
also why when you watch other teams , you notice the defensive guys PLAY TO THE BALL. Our guys need to go to the ball, locate that crap . get off blocks
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Half the time they dont know where the ball is…
ask trevor scott who bites on pretend ball carriers…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:52 am
The offense isn’t the problem…
Sincs Grads stepped in the team scored 13 (half), 23, 24 for an average of 24.3 ppg. That would be 8th in the NFL. If Jano makes 1 32-yarder they are 2-2 and averaging 25.3 ppg or 6th in the NFL.
The problem continues to be the area Al Davis has the most direct impact on – Defense. Allowing 26.8 ppg is 28th in the NFL and unacceptable.
The only hope is that if / when Gallery, Chazz and Bush, Murphy, DMAC and DHB all get healthy the O can put up 31 ppg.
The D has 6 players at new positions in the front 7 so some ugly plays will happen. Can’t use that excuse much longer. If 6 new guys have the same results it is the SCHEME Al. period.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Again, hamstringed by the weak OLine. I agree that punt WAS a touchback, the guy who touched the ball down last was on the freakin goalline. Hue ran what he could to try and get some space, its very rare that you see teams with weak olines able to move the ball of their own goalline. At least, we didnt give up a safety or worse in that situation.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:54 am
hey how many of you guys were like ahhh AL , theres Michael Other sitting there . Take him ..who d we take did we need him?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Agreed wheels. Heres the thing, our Defensive scheme CAN work. We dont have the personal. We have a bunch of pass rushers on the line, LBs who are getting destroyed by olineman (because of the Line) and a secondary who thinks it gets bonuses for largest over pursuit. Oh, guess who got beat like a red-headed stepchild on another 74 yarder. Branch sold out, got beat in the hole and there was no one left to stop Foster. BENCH BRANCH. Start Mitchell.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Grads did kill the chance to win yesterday to, it was a total team disfunction. You maybe able to score points but if you throw in opportune INTs or Fumble or hold on to the ball just like Campbell hmmmmmm?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Id even say Grads is becoming like Campbell he might not be starting to trust those outside WR
October 4th, 2010 at 8:00 am
How did Grads kill the chance to win? Louis Murphy dropped a ball on 4th and 16 that got picked off. The fumble we last at the end of the first half, grads got mauled 2 seconds after taking the snap… thats on Langston.
Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure EVERY one of Gradkowskis INTs were tipped by our receivers first.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:00 am
Que Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:54 am
hey how many of you guys were like ahhh AL , theres Michael Other sitting there . Take him ..who d we take did we need him?
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I know I was. Well sort of. I was stoked leading up to the pick announcement because I was sure we’d get one of:
1. B.J. Raji
2. Michael Oher
3. Eugene Monroe
4. Brian Orakpo
All 4 of those guys are major contributors on their team right now and each would be just awesome to have right now.
Raji the run clogger, Oher and Monroe the franchise blindside protectors and Orakpo the beast pass rusher who’s also able to contribute against the run.
Instead, we got a project. You simply can’t draft projects with a top 10–hell, a top 16–pick.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:00 am
How did he fold up like a tent?
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JFB, last 3 minutes of the game
3 turnovers, NFL’s worst secondary, Texans benched Steve Slaton for a quarter, they didn’t have Andre Johnson, Duane Brown or Brian Cushing
2010 Raiders = 5-10 at best. Cable will be fired at the bye week
October 4th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Texans benched Steve Slaton for a quarter
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correction: Arian Foster*
October 4th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Langston Walker better stop worrying about “whipping someone’s ass” until this team learns how to even hold someone’s jock. Our team is terrible again. At this rate, by the end of October, it will be another lost season.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:03 am
to Grads credit … he completed better than 50 percent of his passes for the first time this season!
24/39, 278 yards & 2 TD’s
Pro Bowl?
October 4th, 2010 at 8:04 am
At this rate, by the end of October, it will be another lost season.
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I got news: This season is pretty much already lost. Another defeat next week and it’s over.
1-3 is a season on life support
1-4 is a dead season and it’s time to start discussing draft picks and off-season moves.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:05 am
I love this team, I just thought Al would be like the late NY yankees owner. He gave the power. Damm I know about some of you guys but The raiders and myself started when I was 9 years old talking grap to this old guy. Im 40 almost and damm all i ve had is tuck rule, shannon sharpe score Tony fatgoose falls on gannon and the next we play our ex coach for the superbowl and bill callahan who should have been told to stay forever coaching our o line never made any adjustments. There has to be some sense of something in AL s head
October 4th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Dakota: offer a trade to Dell for McFadden right now!
while his value is low (injured)
do you have a backup kicker or tight end to offer or something ???
he might be back to full strength in time for FF playoffs
Dell promised to trade him to you at a “reasonable” bargain at some point during the season anyways, didn’t he?
October 4th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Congrats Marley…you killed me in FF.
I’ll see you in the playoffs!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:07 am
the Chargers destroyed Arizona like we should have last week!
I suspect we’ll play the Dolts tough, but lose by 3 …
October 4th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Anyone else tired of all the players and coaches claiming we are so close?
F-close…win some F’in games!
Damn it!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Marley slapped you around Dakota, in a battle of unbeatens
I slapped Jhill around in a battle of the bottom feeders thanks to AP’s bye week!
woohoo
October 4th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Anyone else tired of all the players and coaches claiming we are so close?
F-close…win some F’in games!
Damn it!
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that shipped sailed 3 years ago….We are all addicted…We are all AL-coholics…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain is fond of downplaying anything he’s seen in the NFL as having already seen it at Alabama in the SEC. He wasn’t saying anything Sunday, brushing off the only reporter who approached him with a brusque no comment and heading for the door.
No reason to explain why he was walled off by tight end Joel Dreesen on Ward’s game-opening 33-yard scoring run, or how Foster beat him for an 11-yard touchdown pass to make the score 31-21.
That stuff did happen all the time in the SEC. Except it happened to Vanderbilt.
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sound like a DROY candidate???
October 4th, 2010 at 8:11 am
We have the highest budget in the NFL…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:13 am
“We got whipped on both sides of the line of scrimmage. That’s the bottom line.’’
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Cable never should have logged on and read JFB’s comments about being able to win despite a crappy o-line and Jhill’s comments about DT’s not being a part of the run defense problem (DE’s & LB’s only)
October 4th, 2010 at 8:16 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Marley slapped you around Dakota, in a battle of unbeatens
I slapped Jhill around in a battle of the bottom feeders thanks to AP’s bye week!
woohoo
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I have Brady tonight. Need 33 points for the win, it would be ridiculous for that not to happen when I see QBs getting 65 on a weekly basis. Come on 4-0!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Give the Texans Andre Johnson, Duane Brown & Brian Cushing.
Give the Raiders Robert Gallery, John Henderson & Walter McFadden.
does it change the outcome?
do we lose by more? less? actually win?
THOUGHTS ???
October 4th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Told you guys that YOU CAN’T WIN IF YOU CAN’T STOP THE RUN!
Couldn’t stop Tennessee, Arizona or Houston…result..get rolled.
Stopped Steven Jackson and put the pressure on the QB…result win.
Tommy Kelly IS NOT A NT….too bad NONE of you guys understood the fundamentals of defense.
Now McClain is getting mauled, no one on the d-line is disrupting the O-Line…and the result is once again blaming Huff and Branch for the big plays.
Can’t stop the run…you can’t win.
Draft all D-Lineman next year!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 7:26 am
McFadden 129 yards….but injured.
What is with all of the hamstring issues on this team?
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When Cable is fired, remind him to take the trainer with him!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:21 am
I have Brady tonight. Need 33 points for the win, it would be ridiculous for that not to happen when I see QBs getting 65 on a weekly basis. Come on 4-0!
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good chance of that happening, but I have Bejarvis Green-Ellis in another league so i’m hoping the Pats go run heavy. Maybe Miami will be expecting the pass with Brady, Moss, Welker, etc and the Pats Maroney (traded), Faulk (IR) and Fred Taylor ruled out
Benji did pretty well last week against the Bills, too!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:22 am
The worst part about yesterday was that on top of not stopping the run, we generated no pash rush. Our D just didnt do anything to help us. They couldnt get a stop, they couldnt get a sack and they could force a turnover.
In all reality Houston probably should have beaten us by 20
October 4th, 2010 at 8:23 am
I think 250yds and 2 TDS is very realistic for Brady tonight, and Welker always goes big against Miami. I am confident.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:24 am
S&B, what is this?
3 years in a row of us lobbying to draft a nose tackle and being ignored ???
I say after 7-8 years of being the worst team in the league it’s time to start checking fan blogs for answers!
haha
October 4th, 2010 at 8:24 am
I need Brady to use our trainer. That way he pops a hamy tonight.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:25 am
When you say too bad NONE of you understood fundementals of defense, you had several guys including myself that for the last 3 years running wanted TRENCHMEN…TRENCHMEN are the new skilled players as RB, TE, WR, and FB are a dime a doz, ask arian foster, the texans got him for a roast beef sand.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am
# Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:11 am
We have the highest budget in the NFL…
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you know its bad when you start wishing that you ballclub was run like Detroit’s…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I need Brady to use our trainer. That way he pops a hamy tonight
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Exla, do you have money for Brad Roll’s plane ticket?
October 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Well, another season gone to hell.
The worst part is that there’s no foundation for a better future.
The offensive line stinks. Can Veldeer and Campbell change that next year? Doubt it.
We don’t have one legit starting wide receiver.
All the young guys on the defensive front who were supposed to be good this year — Trevor Scott, Matt Shaughnessy, Desmond Bryant — have done nothing.
Tommy Kelly is helpless, but there is no one to replace him.
And I hate to say it, but McClain looks too slow to play MLB in the NFL. He can’t chase down running backs sideline-to-sideline and he stinks in pass coverage. He is noticeably slower than the guys he’s trying to keep up with.
Branch has been terrible against the run and the pass.
The stadium is empty. We have no first-round pick. We have no general manager. And Al Davis is close to be an invalid.
And I watched Baltimore beat Pittsburgh yesterday with Fabian Washington and Chris Carr starting and playing well.
Where is the hope? We have to go 5-7 just to avoid another 11-loss season.
I’ve been a Raider fan since 1973. My 11-year-old son couldn’t understand why Nnamdi was smiling and joking around with the Texans right after the Raiders lost another devastatingly close game.
Where is the hope?
October 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am
-We can’t stop the run.
-Our OL is sorry.
-We don’t like t run the ball!!??!!
Fire Cable!!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:29 am
cable gets whacked I dont want hue jackson as HC. go get a real HC give them a ton of money and get the hell outta the way….
October 4th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Ahead by 41.12 pts. I’ll lose by 2. That’s my prediction. LOL
October 4th, 2010 at 8:32 am
only 21 rushing attempts yesterday for McFadden, Bush & Reece. good for 94 yards (4.4 ypc)
Meanwhile, the injured starting WR’s produced a whopping 2 catches for 7 yards.
Why didn’t we run the ball more?
I understand McFadden & Bennett eventually got hammy injuries … but Bush, Reece & Cartwright were all still active for this game and they could have used an OL or backup TE Myers if need be for any additional Reece runs!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Cut TK, S Williams, H Eugene, R Brown, Walker, Cooper C, Satele, and N Miller.
Fire the entire Coaching staff!!!
Cable, Fassel, Sanjay Lal, Marshall, and Waufle are SORRY!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:33 am
If i was really seroius about all this after reading post 478 i would jump off the ledge….
October 4th, 2010 at 8:34 am
You can take hue jackson also…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:35 am
bcz24 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:00 am
How did Grads kill the chance to win? Louis Murphy dropped a ball on 4th and 16 that got picked off. The fumble we last at the end of the first half, grads got mauled 2 seconds after taking the snap… thats on Langston.
Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure EVERY one of Gradkowskis INTs were tipped by our receivers first.
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You’re wrong. The 1st one was tipped by a defender. Terrible throw that led to the TD putting them up by 17. Cost the Raiders the game.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:35 am
too quick to target DHB…JLH sohuld be geting more targets than DHB ayt this point…Especially if DHB is injuried, heck play FORD also he gets in the game gets 1 target and 1 catch….
October 4th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Grads is not perfect but dude has stones…He was getting racked and still came back…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:36 am
# Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am
-We can’t stop the run.
-Our OL is sorry.
-We don’t like t run the ball!!??!!
Fire Cable!!
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if there is a fire in your house and a pyromaniac is in your hallway, who will you be mad at? the Fire department??
Cable is NOT the problem, we could get the best coaches in history and it wouldn’t matter, it starts at the top, and the top is sick…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:37 am
I would bet you JFORD would have more catches than DHB if he got the same amount of targets…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:39 am
I would bet you JFORD would have more catches than DHB if he got the same amount of targets…
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THEC: lets be real here for a minute
Jerry Porter & Ronald Curry would double the production we’re getting from the 2nd year wides
October 4th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Thank God for Gradkowski. I don’t know if he’s really good enough to be the starting QB, but he’s the reason that the games are watchable this year (not to mention close).
I wonder how he would do if he had average pass protection and mediocre receivers.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Grads is not perfect but dude has stones
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well stones have us 1-3 right now
is Kyle Boller ready to lead this team? does JCamp have any fire after being benched?
October 4th, 2010 at 8:42 am
You’re wrong. The 1st one was tipped by a defender. Terrible throw that led to the TD putting them up by 17. Cost the Raiders the game.
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Your right… giving up 230yds on the ground played NO part in us losing.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Richochet was right about Terrell Owens …
October 4th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Hate to say it guys, but if DHB is ever going to live up to the hype, he needs a QB who has confidence in him. It seems like he and Bruce have something of a rapport, so I say let him keep throwing it at the young guy. If Heyward-Bey can start catching even half of the balls thrown his way, it’ll be solid progress for him. Give him a chance to do something on the field. That’s the only way this team is ever going to find out what it has, and that’s the only way DHB is ever going to learn how to be a pro.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Yeah grads made some mistakes in this game, but he won 2 games for us considering he brought us back in the ARZ game, however sea perch missed the FG…
Grads is 1-1 in my book… Not 1-3…
October 4th, 2010 at 8:44 am
dude rich wasnt the only one crying for TO… I wanted TO as I thought he would not only ball but help our youngsters….check the logs….
October 4th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Observations:
*Huff is Garbage (sorry RRS, you have to tackle to play safety and he doesn’t). Huff had terrible angles and fundamentals. Had two or three chances to shut down what turned into be long, back-breaking runs after a lackluster front seven continued to get gouged.
The one where he put his arms out as if to say ‘hey, stop….let’s talk about this’ was comical.
He will not be resigned (thank God).
*McClain is garbage (good call, RRS). Also terrible angles, had more trouble lining up the D correctly and had them out of position all day.
Even when in position they were standing around waiting for someone else to make a play and McClain personally was resposible for at least 4 big plays.
*After having a rough day where he took several hits (the offensive line was responsible for two and he was responsible for two… really uneccecarily on his part), Grads is still a soldier and gutted out a tough game and had his guys marching yet again.
I don’t care what anyone says, Grads is the unquestioned starter the rest of the season on that performance alone. Try again next year at QB unless he starts making better decisions early.
*The coaching is awful. Awful. Our receivers couldn’t get in the game because there were no intermediate routes until the 2nd half of the 4th Q.
The only thing they did was clear the way for….
*Zach, who is an All Pro.
*The coaching is awful. Did I say that before? Well, let’s say it again. Awful. The defensive scheme is garbage.
A read and react defense where nobody is flying around is disaster. They need to not let them think that much.
The defense GAVE UP down 7 points with 25 minutes to play, then GAVE UP AGAIN down 10.
They couldn’t even get a stop on 3rd and 6th to get the ball back with about 30-40 seconds left in the game for a Hail Mary.
Complete losers. All the leadership in the world won’t help them with that kind of coaching.
*The offense was productive and the D folded anyway. This is completely unlike the last 7.25 years and far more terriying.
*Murphy sucks.
*Campbell’s a terrible teammate.
*Bruce is a mench.
*Cable’s an idiot.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:45 am
LMN,
I blame the FD if they were late, and didn’t do their job.
We were a good team with Al as GM with Gruden.
Hire J Harbaugh, J Gruden, or another Coach with a good resume (who can work with Al).
Also, hire a guy like Bruce Allen to help around the org.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I don’t have any problem with making Higgins, Ford & NMiller the Top 3 WR’s against Sandy Eggo next week.
time to give these guys a chance with significant playing time at the WR position
leave Bodiford on the PS. Murphy #4 , DHB #5
if Bruce finds a new favorite target? so be it!
October 4th, 2010 at 8:46 am
TO could have been had, but the team no longer goes after “problem guys”… Who would take Haynesworth over TK right about now????
October 4th, 2010 at 8:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Grads is not perfect but dude has stones
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well stones have us 1-3 right now
is Kyle Boller ready to lead this team? does JCamp have any fire after being benched?
Bruce made some early mistakes and the INT he threw was bad. But please, for anyone to say that lost the game weren’t really watching. The D folded. Needed to hold em to 3 and didn’t bother.
Bruce AGAIN marched em down the field.
I am baffled there is a debate.
3 red zone TDs and one dropped pass away from possibly making a 4th.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:48 am
McClain is garbage (good call, RRS). Also terrible angles, had more trouble lining up the D correctly and had them out of position all day.
Even when in position they were standing around waiting for someone else to make a play and McClain personally was resposible for at least 4 big plays.
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LA, welcome to reality my friend!
we missed you
October 4th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I don’t have any problem with making Higgins…
Just stop.
The guy has zero football IQ. He’s a better WR than PR, but if Higgins is the solution, we’re in real trouble. Hope Murphy gets his swagger back and DHB keeps clearing space for Zach and Schillens gets healthy (LOL at myself).
The coaches did not put these guys in position to win with the talent they have.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:50 am
LA, welcome to reality my friend!
we missed you
I’ll meet you there when you come off Huff’s jock. Dude sucks.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Huff is Garbage
He will not be resigned
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LA, Huff is under contract next year … but he does have the option to void that final year
I expect him to do so, like Jake Grove, Rod Coleman, Eric Barton and many others did to get out of Oakland
Ed Reed is going to retire, so Huff will go to Baltimore and they won’t notice a difference (no drop off in production from safety)
October 4th, 2010 at 8:52 am
*After the absolute garbage performance and head-scratching offensive playcalling we STILL were in position to tie.
I guess I get what Cable’s saying. They’re ready to turn the corner but they’ve just been stuck.
They’ve been losing so long, they don’t know how to win.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:53 am
LA, Huff is under contract next year … but he does have the option to void that final year
I expect him to do so, like Jake Grove, Rod Coleman, Eric Barton and many others did to get out of Oakland
Ed Reed is going to retire, so Huff will go to Baltimore and they won’t notice a difference (no drop off in production from safety)
Fine by me, hopefully for their sake, they play him as a nickel instead.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am
The guy has zero football IQ. He’s a better WR than PR, but if Higgins is the solution, we’re in real trouble.
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are DHB & Murph “the solution” ???
October 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Cable was good to get these guys to goin on the interim, but they need a winner as HC.
Done with Tom.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am
The guy has zero football IQ. He’s a better WR than PR, but if Higgins is the solution, we’re in real trouble.
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are DHB & Murph “the solution” ???
Murphy’s nice until he goes up the middle. Need someone who aint scared.
Gotta jet, back later
October 4th, 2010 at 8:55 am
I will continue to say it because I am accurate in my assessment.
Football is a violent game won in the trenches.
You must build your lines through the draft to get good VALUE (Performance relative to salary).
Linebackers are only as good as the lineman in front of them.
Kelly is the last remaining poor value on this team.
He was punished and embarassed RELATIVE to his salary.
He is stealing money.
Our problem is not coaching,scheme, or lack of skill.
We are soft on both lines.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:56 am
We have a real genius as the head coach. “I thought the game was lost on the line of scrimmage, period.” Raider’s Coach Tom Cable said. No SH*T Sherlock. Anyone without an ounce of football knowledge could see that. Your OL Cable got their as* kicked and Grads almost killed. Do us all a favor and “get us over the hump” by quitting.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:56 am
later LA. i’m out too for a bit
October 4th, 2010 at 9:01 am
The following is the list of Defensive Tackles available in this year’s draft. If you argue the need for a true NT with some girth, Joseph and Cody stand out. But I would easily have taken Houston over those two. His raw talent is on par with Suh and McCoy selected at the top of round #1.
Those that argue that we should have drafted an NT, please tell me who on this list jumps out at you, and for what reasons. I argue that the Raiders did the best that could given the talent level.
Pick # 2 Ndamukong Suh Lions DT Nebraska 6′4″ 302 lbs.
3 Gerald McCoy Buccaneers DT Oklahoma 6′4″ 296 lbs.
26 Dan Williams Cardinals DT Tennessee 6′3″ 321 lbs.
28 Jared Odrick Dolphins DT Penn State 6′5″ 306 lbs.
41 Torrell Troup Bills DT Central Florida 6′3″ 314 lbs.
44 LaMarr Houston Raiders DT Texas 6′ 3″ 305 lbs.
46 Linval Joseph Giants DT EastCar 6′4″ 328 lbs.
56 Michael Neal Packers DT Purdue 6′3″ 294 lbs.
57 Terrence Cody Ravens DT Alabama 6′5″ 365 lbs.
74 D’Anthony Smith Jaguars DT Louisiana Tech 6′2″ 304 lbs.
81 Earl Mitchell Texans DT Arizona 6′3″ 315 lbs
83 Corey Peters Falcons DT Kentucky 6′3″ 300 lbs.
120 Gene Atkins Bengals DT Georgia 6′1″ 290 lbs. pick 4/22,
*** Atkins picked after Ford and Campbell **
October 4th, 2010 at 9:04 am
*After having a rough day where he took several hits (the offensive line was responsible for two and he was responsible for two… really uneccecarily on his part), Grads is still a soldier and gutted out a tough game and had his guys marching yet again.
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Enough already about how tough Grads is! Some guys act like he’s the only QB in history to take a lot of hits and stay in the game. Nobody talked about how tough JR was last year. And his supporting cast was 10 times worse than the one Grads has now. Results are the same, except last year, we had a division win under our belts.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Banana:
SD 42-Oak 21
October 4th, 2010 at 9:12 am
….setting up Bay of Pigs III Oakland v. SF in a couple of weeks…..1 win between them by then?!?!?!?
(Bay of Pigs I-Kennedy v. Castro, Bay of Pigs II Green Bay v Tampa Bay in the 1980s)
October 4th, 2010 at 9:13 am
But I would easily have taken Houston over those two. His raw talent is on par with Suh and McCoy selected at the top of round #1.
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Come on dude….that is just crazy talk….have you seen Suh play?
October 4th, 2010 at 9:14 am
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# Raider O Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:45 am
LMN,
I blame the FD if they were late, and didn’t do their job.
We were a good team with Al as GM with Gruden.
Hire J Harbaugh, J Gruden, or another Coach with a good resume (who can work with Al).
Also, hire a guy like Bruce Allen to help around the org.
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yup more than 10 years ago, Al still had a pinch of sanity left in him, what was there clearly poured out and left only craziness…
October 4th, 2010 at 9:15 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Cable was good to get these guys to goin on the interim, but they need a winner as HC.
Done with Tom.
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Word to this. Cable was as good a choice as anyone to sheperd the team out of the Russell Era(error) and toward something better, because just about anyone would’ve been able to do that. But if they’re ever going to learn how to win, they need someone else, ideally a proven winner as coach who can bring the team along.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:13 am
But I would easily have taken Houston over those two. His raw talent is on par with Suh and McCoy selected at the top of round #1.
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Come on dude….that is just crazy talk….have you seen Suh play?
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I was saying I would have taken Houston over Joseph or Cody.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Our problem is not coaching,scheme, or lack of skill.
We are soft on both lines.
Ummmm… just acknowledging how bad it is and still doing nothing about it = bad scheme = bad coaching.
Why did our receivers do nothing against a weak secondary? No creativity. The entire game ran thru McFadden and when he went down (again…. knew it was too good to be true), then we made some adjustments, but the defense needed to be kept more honest more often and earlier.
Garbage O Line than can actually run block? Run more. Screens were great, but nothing downfield and that’s what Bruce is best at.
One more thing, then I really gots to bounce.
Why is Treveor Scott playing more than 5 (passing) downs a game?
Yikes. Disaster. Whe’res Matt S?
Scholarship converted TE.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Guest,
I know what you were saying….you said Houston’s talent is on par with Suh and McCoy…sorry, I have to disagree…I would trade McClain Kelly, AND Houston right now for either of those DTs.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Our line of scrimmage issues are a result of ignoring the lines in the draft for the better part of a decade.
We can not expect to find superior line talent in rounds five-seven.
Build the lines with high draft picks and we will win.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:21 am
How many times does it have to be said?
Playing with two 3-tech DTs DOESN’T FOOOOOOKING WORK!
Playing with garbage pile o-linemen DOESN’T FOOOOOKING WORK!
Playing with pass rushing DEs that can’t hold the end at the LDE spot DOESN’T FOOOOKING WORK!
FOOOOK U AL DAVIS!
October 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
If this team continues on another 4-12/5-11 spiral, Davis is going to be lucky to have 20,000 people showing up in the Coliseum by the last game of the season. A team has got to sell tickets, period.
He swallowed his pride and released JaDrank. He needs to do it once more.
He needs to go to Gruden at the end of the season and give him everything he should’ve offered him after the 2001 season, to wit: a large salary and control over basic personnel decisions. Hell, Gruden didn’t even much care who Al drafted, if Jerry tells us the truth (and he surely is).
The Raiders have to sell tickets. Hiring Gruden back is the one card Al has in his hand left to play to try and make that happen. Jerry and others have said that re-hiring him would instantly re-energize the Nation. Re-energized fanbase = more tickets sold. His ability to actually coach a team and win games would continue the inital burst of momentum.
Gruden knows how to win. The team needs to be taught that again. Gruden wants to coach again and loved coaching the team. Gruden has the fire and discipline in him necessary to handle the relaxed, Davis-fostered Raider atmosphere.
If I could somehow look into a crystal ball and see that another 5-11 season would mean Gruden’s return, I could deal with all the losing, no problem.
Sadly, I fear we’ll be getting some lame coaching has-been or never-was, ala Cable, Bugel and Mike White.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
We could be winners if we follow a simple formula;
1. Next 5 years draft for the trenches.
2. Draft guys who actually played the position in collge. No special needs projects of any sort.
2011-2015 drafts
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Our trenches have been killing us…
For the last time this is how a draft should be conducted. Take the best available players only….
No projects, or trying to convert a guy…
October 4th, 2010 at 9:26 am
1 guy i know can fix this mess now, I would back a brinks money truck up to parcells house and let him clean house from top to bottom…
October 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Our 1st round pick is looking better to the Patriots every week.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:30 am
“The 32,218 count was the smallest in a non-strike year since Dec. 24, 1967, when the Raiders beat the Buffalo Bills 28-21 in the regular-season finale.
No paid attendance figure was ever lower in Los Angeles.
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If this doesn’t make it obvious that the end is nearing for the Raiders in Oakland than you are a moron.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back YOUR Los Angeles Raiders.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:30 am
The number of guys playing out of position drives me up a wall.
Off the top of my head:
Marcel Reece, a WR/TE at fullback.
Jared Veldheer, a tackle, at center
Bruce Campbell, a tackle, at guard.
Robert Gallery, a tackle, at guard.
Lamarr Houston, a DT, at DE.
Trevor Scott, a TE, at DE.
Quentin Groves, a DE, at OLB
Tyvon Branch, a CB, at SS.
Tommy Kelly, a DE, at DT.
A couple of those have worked (Gallery, Scott to a degree) but come on, man. What’s wrong with drafting guys to play the position they actually know?
October 4th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
We could be winners if we follow a simple formula;
1. Next 5 years draft for the trenches.
2. Draft guys who actually played the position in collge. No special needs projects of any sort.
2011-2015 drafts
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Oline
Dline
Our trenches have been killing us…
For the last time this is how a draft should be conducted. Take the best available players only….
No projects, or trying to convert a guy…
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The problem is our grounding in the 4-3 defense. The better teams draft 3-4 guys or allowed for hybrid defenses. In that case, you can take the best player available and maximize the talent.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Parcells, Gruden, Fox (heard his name last week in here)…all guys that told Sean Peyton to stay the foook away from Oakland and Al Davis.
I just can’t see it happening…I would take any of them, but it just isn’t going to happen.
Jim Fassell would be a step up from Cable….that is more of what we might get.
Jim Harbaugh? Probably makes more at Stanford than Al would pay him, since Al seems to think HCs are not important.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:26 am
1 guy i know can fix this mess now, I would back a brinks money truck up to parcells house and let him clean house from top to bottom…
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I’d do backflips. Parcells & Sparano (his handpicked coach) flipped a 1-15 joke team into a playoff team in one season.
I think Parcells would do it because he and Al are friendly and the ego boost of turning around a once-great-now-pathetic franchise would be huge. But would Al give him the salary and control? All past behavior points to “nope”
October 4th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Parcells, Gruden, Fox (heard his name last week in here)…all guys that told Sean Peyton to stay the foook away from Oakland and Al Davis.
I just can’t see it happening…I would take any of them, but it just isn’t going to happen.
Jim Fassell would be a step up from Cable….that is more of what we might get.
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Sadly, I have no doubt you’re right. Nice to dream, though.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Guest,
I know what you were saying….you said Houston’s talent is on par with Suh and McCoy…sorry, I have to disagree…I would trade McClain Kelly, AND Houston right now for either of those DTs.
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I’d love to have Suh, but McCoy is a one gap DT, made for the Tampa 2. He isn’t a run stuffer. I’d swap Houston for McCoy…but Suh I’d do that trade you mentioned. He’s a beast!
October 4th, 2010 at 9:38 am
The number of guys playing out of position drives me up a wall.
Off the top of my head:
Marcel Reece, a WR/TE at fullback.
Jared Veldheer, a tackle, at center
Bruce Campbell, a tackle, at guard.
Robert Gallery, a tackle, at guard.
Lamarr Houston, a DT, at DE.
Trevor Scott, a TE, at DE.
Quentin Groves, a DE, at OLB
Tyvon Branch, a CB, at SS.
Tommy Kelly, a DE, at DT.
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PA, I only have a problem with a few of these
Scott is an excellent situational pass rusher in the NFL. he played DE in college too ya know? not just TE only
Kelly at DT might be fine with a big nose tackle next to him (see Rams game). Next to Seymour he looks like complete trash against the run – they both do – and so does McClain (coincidence?)
completely agree with you though on Reece/Veldheer/BCamp. Huff at SS his first 3 years in the league was a bad move too. I would also argue that Langston Walker is out of position. He played pretty well at guard last year and he’s WAY too big & slow at tackle on passing plays. He should be our starter at RG imo
October 4th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Al Davis has watched his credibility as a football GM plummet over the past 25 years. He went from football god to the crazy guy in Oakland that we all say great things about in public, but whom we laugh at behind closed doors.
Al knows this, he can see what his antics has done to the franchise. He knows that few, if any, legit HC candidates will even return his calls these days.
But I think in his proud, warped mind, he would rather drag the team to hell with him than give up control and watch someone else like, Parcells or Gruden, get the credit for reviving the franchise.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:41 am
morning nation,
well we took a beating, this is the nfl and ish happens.. don’t abandon ship and start pointng fingers.. real raider fans go dowm fighting with our team, and we haven’t quit…don’t complain,,buy a ticket to the next game, take our frustration out by getting some authentic raider gear, from the raider image.. that will help more than anything else..let’s support our team no matter what.. stop all the cut/fire bull-ish. it is counter productive….no-one on here has all the information about injuries, tendancies and strategies…if we did we would not be here..
October 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Dakota quit being all butt hurt about Al Davis, not only his fault.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Al Davis has watched his credibility as a football GM plummet over the past 25 years. He went from football god to the crazy guy in Oakland that we all say great things about in public, but whom we laugh at behind closed doors.
Al knows this, he can see what his antics has done to the franchise. He knows that few, if any, legit HC candidates will even return his calls these days.
But I think in his proud, warped mind, he would rather drag the team to hell with him than give up control and watch someone else like, Parcells or Gruden, get the credit for reviving the franchise.
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Al Davis just might be that mad genious like that guy in “A beautiful Mind”. As smart as a whip at football, but all that knowledge has driven him mad. He needs a lesser football man to run the show.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Dakota at post #540 = spot on.
Davis is like the captain of a ship who refuses to give the order allowing the crew to abandon ship when it’s sinking. If he’s going down, so must everybody
October 4th, 2010 at 9:43 am
r8rwill Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:41 am
morning nation,
well we took a beating, this is the nfl and ish happens.. don’t abandon ship and start pointng fingers.. real raider fans go dowm fighting with our team, and we haven’t quit…don’t complain,,buy a ticket to the next game, take our frustration out by getting some authentic raider gear, from the raider image.. that will help more than anything else..let’s support our team no matter what.. stop all the cut/fire bull-ish. it is counter productive….no-one on here has all the information about injuries, tendancies and strategies…if we did we would not be here..
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LMAO
This message has been brought to you by the public relations department of the Oakland Raiders, John Herrera-marketing manager/diaper changer.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Please stop mentioning Chaz Schillens. That boat has sailed. He doesn’t exsist. He is a ghost.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Once again I think our true issues were brought to light.
1) Failure to beef up the o-line and d-line with interior players. Average QBs such as Grads can look great with protection and time.
2) WR projects instead of “pro WR talent.”
3) Naaaa….Screw three!!!…Fire Cable!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Chaz is a ghost but because we did not go after another veteran WR in the off season he continues to hang around.
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RaydaSwagger Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Please stop mentioning Chaz Schillens. That boat has sailed. He doesn’t exsist. He is a ghost.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:47 am
I totally agree with #434.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Texans were 3 pt favorite. Opening line is Dolts by 8.
We really impressed them.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:48 am
#545 Dakota LMAO!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Schilens is like that friend you met accidently somewhere, went out drinking with once and had a great time, but always seems to have something else to do when you’ve suggested hanging out ever since.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:50 am
The problems with the Raiders go FAR beyond just the issues and problems Al Davis has created. We have a curse, a losing culture that won’t change. Putting ALL the blame on Al Davis is just stupid and juvenile.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Better not tell those run-stoppers on defense that Ryan Mathews returns next week. “And he could go all the way!)
October 4th, 2010 at 9:51 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Schilens is like that friend you met accidently somewhere, went out drinking with once and had a great time, but always seems to have something else to do when you’ve suggested hanging out ever since.
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LMFAO, dude, that is a great example. LFMAO.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
I tell you one of the lamest plays of the day.
Huff’s lame attempt to tackle Arian on his big run. He runs after him jumps out and bounces right off the guy grabing air. If you look he even had time to jump up and watch him run to the endzone. Huff is lame as all $#!t. I don’t care what anyone says. He can’t tackle to save his life. Mitchell is right beside him. The two most bone headed DBs in the NFL!
October 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Three hour drive to Oakland and three hour driveback home.
I can’t tell you how frustrating, the drive is when you see the same problems, and no matter who the coaching staff is, nothing changes.
The only constant is Tommy Kelly on our Dline. We switched Burgess for Shonasty, Richardson for Lamarr Houston, and switched, Seymour for Terdell Sands, and Sapp, and others. The only constant is Kelly.
We have seen whole sale changes of our LB’S, Gone are Morrisson, Howard, Brown, replaced by Wimbley, McClain and Groves.
I watched Kelly yesterday, he just can’t control his gap. I literally thought, he was being double teamed or just had bad leverage. Kelly is just flat out getting dominated. Most of the long runs, were to his gap, and if they weren’t, he was over playing into another gap, so essentially has no gap control.
I always proclaim, this is a team game and one individual can’t be blamed. In this case Kelly has no business on the field, until he changes or accepts his role. I don’t know, if a gap control large body, can help him, but Henderson would at least stay in his gaps and that will offset Kelly’s bad habits.
Offensive line.
Are you kidding me, Grads had on the average 2.5 secs to throw the ball. I noticed at the game, when the Texans found out they didn’t need to blitz as much, due to their pressure with four lineman, they were able to back off and play a safety over the top on both WR’S. With that defensive alingment, both WR’S were rendered ineffective, and Zach Miller was the only option, with a linebacker covering him all game.
So Grads was rushed, accuracy was an issue and I’m surprised he’s was not killed yesterday.
I can’t believe, this Organization thought this OL can actually hold up for 16 games. Was this a wish or a prayer.
The Texans knew, to defend the pass due to their horrible ranking as 31st ranking in the NFL, they were able to play two safetys and take away the pass and play with 7 in the box. Which tells me on a 7-7, our ofensive line, should have been able to create lanes for some good running lanes, when they weren’t able to, the Texans sat back, dared the Raiders and the Raiders, then played to the Texans strength, and the OL, is responsible for this also.
The offensive Play calling can’t be blamed on the coach or players, they must execuate, and when you combine the suspect calls and poor execuation, blame is all around, not on one player.
We flat out yesterday, got dominated, we are a wussy team, how pitiful to see this. The Texans came in and slapped us around like we were their lil brother.
Raiders will never be a winning team until the basics are completed per game.
1- Tackle hard and well.
2- Attention to detail, lacks every game.
3- Stop the opposing team running attack.
4- Stop the unnecessary penalities.
5- Learn to play every play hard, no plays off.
When those are met, any player or coach will not succeed in Oakland. The following coaches have not met the above 5 objectives.
Callahan
Shell
Turner
Kiffin
Cable.
I also know were in a real tough economy, but only 32,000 in attendance, how embarassing.
Later
October 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Enough already about how tough Grads is! Some guys act like he’s the only QB in history to take a lot of hits and stay in the game. Nobody talked about how tough JR was last year. And his supporting cast was 10 times worse than the one Grads has now. Results are the same, except last year, we had a division win under our belts.—————————————————————————————————-
Exactly! Randall Tex Cobb was tough as well. That didn’t help him a bit when he fought Larry Holmes. FIRE CABLE!
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Please no personal confessions over the Blog. I am not to sure I like where this is going. LOL! : )
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SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Schilens is like that friend you met accidently somewhere, went out drinking with once and had a great time, but always seems to have something else to do when you’ve suggested hanging out ever since.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Dakota quit being all butt hurt about Al Davis, not only his fault.
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Yeah, it really is his fault.
Who was it that looked at Tom Cable’s 11-35 coaching record and said “Hey, I want this guy to be the head coach of the Raiders”? Al Davis
Who was it in 2009 that looked at DHB and said, forget Michael Oher and Eugene Monroe, we need this WR who is really fast and has questionable hands, and then watched Mike Mitchell on youtube and decided to take him over Max Unger and Phil Loadholt? Al Davis
Who looked at John Marshall and decided, hey, this is the guy that can solve our ongoing run D issues, despite the fact that he almost always has a bottom 1/3 run D? Al Davis
Who decided to let all the Kiffin coaches, like Rathman and Schnieder go? Al Davis
Who decided to not trade Randy Moss to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers and then draft Calvin Johnson #1 in 2007? Al Davis
Who benched Marcus Allen? Al Davis
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
It’s gotten so bad that the Mercury News is posting articles about John Madden’s Oakland Raiders of the 1970s-”football’s equivalent of a forearm to the jugular.”
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Enjoy the Raiders in Oakland while you can Bay Area fans, because the end is nearing, the return to Los Angeles is inevitable at this point.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:57 am
hahahaha, CJ Legend34, I suppose I walked into that one.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:57 am
The only constant is Tommy Kelly on our Dline.
I watched Kelly yesterday, he just can’t control his gap. I literally thought, he was being double teamed or just had bad leverage. Kelly is just flat out getting dominated. Most of the long runs, were to his gap, and if they weren’t, he was over playing into another gap, so essentially has no gap control.
I always proclaim, this is a team game and one individual can’t be blamed. In this case Kelly has no business on the field, until he changes or accepts his role.
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Dell,
according to Jhill … TK is the 4th best DT in football (not on the Raiders – in the NFL)
October 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Enjoy the Raiders in Oakland while you can Bay Area fans, because the end is nearing, the return to Los Angeles is inevitable at this point.
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Where they can play in front of good crowds for 1 season before the L.A. fans realize “Hey, this team blows” and then it’s back to 30,000 a game again.
A winning team is viable anywhere. A losing team is viable nowhere.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
We flat out yesterday, got dominated, we are a wussy team, how pitiful to see this. The Texans came in and slapped us around like we were their lil brother.
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Agree with this
October 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Enjoy the Raiders in Oakland while you can Bay Area fans, because the end is nearing, the return to Los Angeles is inevitable at this point.
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Us LA fans need them to stay in Oakland so that we can continue to see all the games on TV. Please keep them up there.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
#557 good post but you can’t blame people for not coming in a bad economy with a team that his beenn dominated for 8 plus years straight.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
JerryMac, deciding when to have the next live chat. Why don’t we skip it this week?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am
St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:50 am
The problems with the Raiders go FAR beyond just the issues and problems Al Davis has created. We have a curse, a losing culture that won’t change. Putting ALL the blame on Al Davis is just stupid and juvenile.
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Who created a culture where it is okay to get drunk on flights to away games? Al Davis
Who created a culture where players don’t have to respect the head coach and can complain directly to the Owner, and usually get their way? Al Davis
That stuff might have been okay in 1976….but times have changed, Al Davis hasn’t.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Kelly and Bryant are garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the positive note…
At least the Whiners are 0-4
October 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Totally agree with post 570.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
I am sorry, I could not resist brother. : )
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SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:57 am
hahahaha, CJ Legend34, I suppose I walked into that one.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Who was it that looked at Tom Cable’s 11-35 coaching record and said “Hey, I want this guy to be the head coach of the Raiders”? Al Davis
Answer: Who the fck else is going to coach this team? (Yes possibly Al Davis, but you can also say the same for Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, and AJ Smith)
Who was it in 2009 that looked at DHB and said, forget Michael Oher and Eugene Monroe, we need this WR who is really fast and has questionable hands, and then watched Mike Mitchell on youtube and decided to take him over Max Unger and Phil Loadholt? Al Davis
Answer: You could say the EXACT same thing for the piece of sh1ite Michael Huff and (until this year) YOUR boy DMac. Coaches coach, players play.
Who looked at John Marshall and decided, hey, this is the guy that can solve our ongoing run D issues, despite the fact that he almost always has a bottom 1/3 run D? Al Davis
Answer: Do you see a Davis jersey on the field? No, his old azz is in the booth calling the plays. The players play the game bro.
Who decided to let all the Kiffin coaches, like Rathman and Schnieder go? Al Davis
Answer: Are you fking kidding me? You are defending Kiffin? Ok, now I am just thinking MR or Kell is trolling as you. Kiffin? Seriously bro? Kiffin?
Who decided to not trade Randy Moss to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers and then draft Calvin Johnson #1 in 2007? Al Davis
Answer: Speculation
Who benched Marcus Allen? Al Davis
Answer: Dude come on, Bo Jackson was the hot ticket, Marcus was a primadonna, didn’t want to be on the field the same time as Bo, and didn’t want to share the carries. THAT IS PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED. WTF would you have done? Bench Bo?
Not defending Al, but our problems are much deeper than JUST Al Davis, you obviously don’t know sh1t and never played football. What is in the water in the Dakota’s, or you just smoking to many cigarettes at the pawn shop?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Big John!
We need you!
Kelly sux!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
On the positive note…
At least the Whiners are 0-4
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WK6 = battle of the bottom dwellers
October 4th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Yeah, battle of the bay garbage
October 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
A winning team is viable anywhere. A losing team is viable nowhere.
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Yeah, especially in Green Bay right? Where you have to be on a waiting list for OVER 15 years before you are even CONSIDERED a season ticket. Bad excuse dude. Oakland just doesn’t cut it, hasn’t been able too since they got there.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Yeah, battle of the bay garbage
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DMAC, I am so pumped to see this Crabtree vs Heyward-Bey air show!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Dakota Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Who was it that looked at Tom Cable’s 11-35 coaching record and said “Hey, I want this guy to be the head coach of the Raiders”? Al Davis
Answer: Who the fck else is going to coach this team? (Yes possibly Al Davis, but you can also say the same for Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, and AJ Smith)
Who was it in 2009 that looked at DHB and said, forget Michael Oher and Eugene Monroe, we need this WR who is really fast and has questionable hands, and then watched Mike Mitchell on youtube and decided to take him over Max Unger and Phil Loadholt? Al Davis
Answer: You could say the EXACT same thing for the piece of sh1ite Michael Huff and (until this year) YOUR boy DMac. Coaches coach, players play.
Who looked at John Marshall and decided, hey, this is the guy that can solve our ongoing run D issues, despite the fact that he almost always has a bottom 1/3 run D? Al Davis
Answer: Do you see a Davis jersey on the field? No, his old azz is in the booth calling the plays. The players play the game bro.
Who decided to let all the Kiffin coaches, like Rathman and Schnieder go? Al Davis
Answer: Are you fking kidding me? You are defending Kiffin? Ok, now I am just thinking MR or Kell is trolling as you. Kiffin? Seriously bro? Kiffin?
Who decided to not trade Randy Moss to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers and then draft Calvin Johnson #1 in 2007? Al Davis
Answer: Speculation
Who benched Marcus Allen? Al Davis
Answer: Dude come on, Bo Jackson was the hot ticket, Marcus was a primadonna, didn’t want to be on the field the same time as Bo, and didn’t want to share the carries. THAT IS PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED. WTF would you have done? Bench Bo?
Not defending Al, but our problems are much deeper than JUST Al Davis, you obviously don’t know sh1t and never played football. What is in the water in the Dakota’s, or you just smoking to many cigarettes at the pawn shop?
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You asked….if the truth hurts, just bury your head in the sand…I stand by all of those things. Al Davis drafts the players, chooses the coaches, decides the trades, decides who plays…who else is ultimately responsible for all of this? Through 25 years, thousands of players, almost a dozen coaches, and you still can’t see that the one constant is Al Davis? LMAO
And Bo wasn’t around when Allen was benched for Eric Dickerson and Roger Craig…you haven’t been a fan very long if you didn’t know that.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
You guys and your noted comments, regarding players and coaches have real merit. I’ll just wait for Priest to tell us, were full of crap and this team is as good as the top 5 teams.
To much to do. This is just a rerun of every Monday over the past 7 years, and counting.
I need a drink, where’s Norco Bob at?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
I couldn’t believe at halftime of Sunday Night’s Giants-Bears game, the halftime crew was talking up the 49ers. “Hey, they played the Falcons tough, and are only 2 out in the Western Conference!”
WTF?
How’s that for spinning an 0-4 team?
ROFL
October 4th, 2010 at 10:08 am
LOL you guys are so funny
October 4th, 2010 at 10:09 am
DMAC, Dakota RRS,
Hope all is well.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Drink away Dell, drink away!
I think I heard that line from a M. Night Shamalanananamaha movie.
By the way, that dude’s movies suck now…..
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Louis Murphy confirmed that he aggravated his bruised collarbone early in Sunday’s loss to the Texans.
Murphy thought at one point that he was doubtful to even play Sunday and admitted he was hurting all game. Perhaps he should have just sat out. He had one catch on seven targets and an ugly drop ended the Raiders’ chances of a comeback. We expect Murphy to play against the Chargers next week, but it’s unlikely he’ll be back to 100 percent.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
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He should of just sat out.
1 catch and a crucial drop and the end of the game.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Cheer up guys, the season’s only 1/4 of the way done. We can still take this to the next level. We are already over the hump, so it’s all downhill from here.
Let’s hang a “mission accomplished” banner, and give each other an internet high five!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Garbage team, garbage owner, garbage coaching, garbage stadium, garbage city. Agree to disagree. It all plays into the equation, not just ONE old azz man.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Wassup Dell!
Reality just he me again.
We s_uck!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
DMAC, Dakota RRS,
Hope all is well.
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I finally got a win in your league!
playoffs ??? (jim mora voice)
October 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
# St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Garbage team, garbage owner, garbage coaching, garbage stadium, garbage city. Agree to disagree. It all plays into the equation, not just ONE old azz man.
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I agree, except for the garbage city. Born and raised in east Oakland and still reside here. I love it!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Garbage team, garbage owner, garbage coaching, garbage stadium, garbage city. Agree to disagree. It all plays into the equation, not just ONE old azz man.
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Only one guy collected all that Garbage and then presents it as an NFL franchise…Al Davis.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
I kept telling yall that we dont have NT’s…..guys like Jhill,JUST LOSE and BHP tried to combat the BAUCE…..what do they have to say now? I was at the game man and the interior of the dline was getting destroyed. Draft Cody? That was a no brainer. People were saying not picking him was right because Houston was so athletic, well what do you have to say now?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Wow, that news that Murphy was hurting all game and then aggravated the injury he already has makes me furious.
That one’s all on the coaches. He should’ve sat out, pure and simple. No reason to have him out there.
Ford and NMiller were both healthy. Murphy had one catch and a drop that led to the game killing INT. Either Ford or Miller couldn’t have done any worse.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
FK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My boy DMAC is down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Even Lechler was only average yesterday.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am
My favorite line last week during the presser with Kubiak.
Kubiak, says “how impressive we are on defense, citing our third ranking” Then the Texans proceed, to churn out nearly 500 yards and half of those yards are on the ground.
Rule of thumb, Coaches speak is full of BS.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:17 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
# St. Jimmy Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Garbage team, garbage owner, garbage coaching, garbage stadium, garbage city. Agree to disagree. It all plays into the equation, not just ONE old azz man.
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I agree, except for the garbage city. Born and raised in east Oakland and still reside here. I love it!
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All due respect, not wanting to trash your beloved city. But I remember what it once was. Before Jerry Brown and his liberals screwed it over….
Oakland & Alameda (also screwed over by anti-Govt commie hippies) used to be a garden spot. Sorry, just sayin….
October 4th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Kelly is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Houston didn’t even have their best offensive player yesterday, and played almost half the game without their best RB due to a coaches decision….
…could have been much worse I guess….
October 4th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Wow and JLH I would rather not be on PR……play him at WR…..2 targeted passes 2 receptions for 36 yards 2 first downs…….wow huh…..How come you geniuses arent talking about that? Ford should be the punt returner….As I keep saying JLH needs to be on the field in the offense but you semi pros think you know something lol
October 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
what do they have to say now?
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Same ole same ole ….
DEs getting abused, LBs outta position.
3 LBs with ZERO NFL experience at the position.
A converted CB at SS who is never in the right place.
Seymour was in the backfield A LOT, and he is playing on one leg.
Tommy Kelly is a backup, shoulda kept Money Warren instead.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
How many times have we had to hear some variation on this speech from the opposing coach during the pre-game conference call?
“The Raiders are a good football team, no question. They’ve got some really talented players at key areas. They’re better than their record shows. If they’d gotten a bounce here or there, they’d be much different. If you take any team lightly, you’re going to lose and we’re not going to do that. I think they’re a player or two away from being real contenders.”
Translation: Boy, the Raiders suck the big one. My only challenge as coach is to make sure my guys keep their heads in the game all 4 quarters and don’t get to thinking about which strip club they’re headed to after the game.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Wow and JLH I would rather not be on PR……play him at WR…..2 targeted passes 2 receptions for 36 yards 2 first downs…….wow huh…..How come you geniuses arent talking about that? Ford should be the punt returner….As I keep saying JLH needs to be on the field in the offense but you semi pros think you know something lol
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I said I was cool w/ JLH in the slot, but he has got to go on special teams!!!!!!!!!!
Give Jacoby a shot or Miller.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Wow and JLH I would rather not be on PR……play him at WR…..2 targeted passes 2 receptions for 36 yards 2 first downs…….wow huh…..How come you geniuses arent talking about that? Ford should be the punt returner….As I keep saying JLH needs to be on the field in the offense but you semi pros think you know something lol
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At least you do realize he sucks at PR. You do agree now…
October 4th, 2010 at 10:21 am
JLH = the only healthy WR on the field and caught 2 passes. Whoop-de-doo…
October 4th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Wow, I just remembered to check the ND score…they won!
Man my football teams stink.
But there is a Lakers game today!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Did you guys check out that Stanford-Ducks game?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Don’t worry guys, Chaz will save the day!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
You cats are funny. The raiders are not good enough to beat this team, anyone with a basic understanding of football could see this coming.
The number 1 rush offense vs. our beat up dtackles. Seymore and Bryant are nicked up, and hendu our best run stuffer didnt play. Even if we had all of our horses ready this was going to be tough for a run d that has improved but is only shaky at best.
No o-line. Every team in the nfl knows that the raiders cant pass protect. This severely limits the play calling, and hampers the offense. Im sure that the screen game to tight ends and backs are not supposed to be the main passing play in our offense. You are forced to run screens and draws when you cant pass protect.
When you are down in the second half you have to throw the ball, especially playing against one of the top run defenses in the league so far this year. Mainly though time is a factor and you have to try and score quickly when you cant stop the opponent from running the ball and chewing up the clock. The Raiders cant win shootouts, They do better in games when the scoring is low, like the rams game.
Grads is a turn over machine. This is not news for anyone that has watched him play over the coarse of his nfl career. Grads turnovers and sacks really killed any chance of the raiders winning. You cant win shootout style games with out a quality nfl trigger man,and grads doesnt have the goods.
Lots of people are making excuses for him but 2 fumbles and and 2 ints are unacceptable. Some have said “he led another comeback”. Wrong again, its only a come back if you win. Moral victories are for losers.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:19 am
How many times have we had to hear some variation on this speech from the opposing coach during the pre-game conference call?
“The Raiders are a good football team, no question. They’ve got some really talented players at key areas. They’re better than their record shows. If they’d gotten a bounce here or there, they’d be much different. If you take any team lightly, you’re going to lose and we’re not going to do that. I think they’re a player or two away from being real contenders.”
Translation: Boy, the Raiders suck the big one. My only challenge as coach is to make sure my guys keep their heads in the game all 4 quarters and don’t get to thinking about which strip club they’re headed to after the game.
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LOL,
and you forgot to mention that the opposing HC’s will say, stat’s don’t lie. Raiders are #2 against the pass.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:23 am
DAMN, wassup w/ all those reviews in college football? That schit is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am
followed the game on Jerry’s blog, which was great being in the predicament I was in unable to watch, it sounds like the first pick was a tipped ball and second Murphy should have had.. So did Grads do the job and D basically lost the game?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Since you guys are commenting about our PR and that leads me to Special Teams. I don’t think anybody, can do well as our PR, until we decide to block the gunners. I can’t tell you how many of the other teams gunners are making the first tackle.
That area is non exsistent. We supposebly, have all this team speed and were last in PR and in the bottom five on KO, how ridiculous is that.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Will someone please explain to me how Big John will help Trevor Scott and Houston at DE?
Rookie mistake and a guy who simply can’t play the postion.
Someone tell me how Henderson helps the OLB play the right gap?
How does Henderson stop the SS and LBs from biting on PA?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Almost noon…time to go drink!
I’ll have one for you Dell!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:26 am
In my opinion, Grad did his job. There were some tipped balls, and some dropped passes. The line was giving him 2 seconds to fire.
For his talent level, Grads is overachieving. I don’t see Drew Brees doing better with this line and the crppy WR’s we had yesterday
October 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
GRADKOWSKI’S FAULT?
Anybody that watched the game the least bit sober knows if Grads had TIED the game at 31 the Defense would’ve gave it back in the 4th or OT.
TWO 90 yard scoring drives.
After Murphy gave the Texans the ball, the Raiders couldn’t stop them from running for a 1st down or Grads would’ve got another shot. BUT knowing they were running, the D choked.
Jason Campbell crowd is clueless. With JC it would’ve been another blowout.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Thanks Dakota
October 4th, 2010 at 10:30 am
As someone said earlier, it would be nice if I just didn’t care anymore.
But this is vicious cycle. Get amped for this week’s game, get to see my team pummeled, gripe about it for 3 days, talk myself into getting over it, get up for the next game.
rinse/repeat. 8 years and counting. At least I had a good 32 years before that of being a Raider fan.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:31 am
DMAC Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:13 am
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I agree, except for the garbage city. Born and raised in east Oakland and still reside here. I love it!
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Translation: Born here. Raised here. Stuck here.
Damn
October 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Lol jhill someone had to explain the NT POSITION to you this summer and you looked at Madden to see the evidence hahahahahaha. How does it help? Texans dont get 250 on the ground is how
October 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
8 years and counting. At least I had a good 32 years before that of being a Raider fan.
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G, are you Kell’s age?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
I’m 44
October 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
You cats are funny. The raiders are not good enough to beat this team, anyone with a basic understanding of football could see this coming.
The number 1 rush offense vs. our beat up dtackles. Seymore and Bryant are nicked up, and hendu our best run stuffer didnt play. Even if we had all of our horses ready this was going to be tough for a run d that has improved but is only shaky at best.
No o-line. Every team in the nfl knows that the raiders cant pass protect. This severely limits the play calling, and hampers the offense. Im sure that the screen game to tight ends and backs are not supposed to be the main passing play in our offense. You are forced to run screens and draws when you cant pass protect.
When you are down in the second half you have to throw the ball, especially playing against one of the top run defenses in the league so far this year. Mainly though time is a factor and you have to try and score quickly when you cant stop the opponent from running the ball and chewing up the clock. The Raiders cant win shootouts, They do better in games when the scoring is low, like the rams game.
Grads is a turn over machine. This is not news for anyone that has watched him play over the coarse of his nfl career. Grads turnovers and sacks really killed any chance of the raiders winning. You cant win shootout style games with out a quality nfl trigger man,and grads doesnt have the goods.
Lots of people are making excuses for him but 2 fumbles and and 2 ints are unacceptable. Some have said “he led another comeback”. Wrong again, its only a come back if you win. Moral victories are for losers.
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Post of the day.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Been a Raider fan since I was a toddler. Only thing I ever remember about being 4 years old.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Groves looked completely lost yesterday.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Here’s Norv Turner’s offensive game plan for next sunday:
1.- Run offtackle right
2. Run offtackle left
3. PA to Gates
4. Bootleg to Sproles
Result: 250 yds rushing, and a 35-24 beatdown of the “over the hump” Raidehs!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Wasn’t it PeeWee football sad when the Texans kept running the same play for 8 yards?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:40 am
# guest123 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:30 am
As someone said earlier, it would be nice if I just didn’t care anymore.
But this is vicious cycle. Get amped for this week’s game, get to see my team pummeled, gripe about it for 3 days, talk myself into getting over it, get up for the next game.
rinse/repeat. 8 years and counting. At least I had a good 32 years before that of being a Raider fan.
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32 years before that?
Raiders were ‘83 Champs.
From 83 to getting back in, in ‘02 can hardly be viewed as “good years”.
couple years will be 3 decades of futility
October 4th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Our D line is paper thin. Said it in the pre-season, hoped I was wrong. you could play Lott, R.Woodson, C.Woodson & Nnamdi at the D-backs and we still would have given up 30+ points.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:42 am
I’m 44
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G123, thats a good number!
that was my # when I played basketball (power forward)
October 4th, 2010 at 10:42 am
I am so tired of this. I support this team with all my heart as well as finances every year. I buy the NFL ticket every year. I buy my Raider jersey’s, as well as fly up to Oakland for a couple of games and then drive down to the San Diego game only to be humilated year after year.
Bill Callahan is gone. Norv Turner is gone. Art Shell and the bed & breakfast guy are gone. Lance Kiffen is gone. Tom Cable is soon to be gone. Guess who is left and has overseen this hot mess for the past 7 years?
I’m tired of the excuses.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Guest123 is a clueless person lol……..JLH doesnt suck on PR at all. We have seen him this season get a big return so what you are saying is bullshhhht. I want JLH to focus on offense because that is where we need him the most. As far as being only healthy receiver talk….you displaye your obvious womanly spirit to down someone who produced. Idiot
October 4th, 2010 at 10:44 am
32 years before that?
Raiders were ‘83 Champs.
From 83 to getting back in, in ‘02 can hardly be viewed as “good years”.
couple years will be 3 decades of futility
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You forget the 1976 SuperBowl or the 1980 Superbowl. You forget the decades of dominance that this team had. You forget that at one time, we owned Monday Night Football. You forget that at one time, other teams shook with fear when our captains came out to flip the coin.
Committment to Excellence….
Pride and Poise….
Silver and Black
This used to mean something
October 4th, 2010 at 10:44 am
the Texans aren’t a playoff team without Andre Johnson.
In fact, they aren’t even that good!
but they are smart enough to take what the defense gives them and our defense GAVE them pretty much whatever they wanted …
October 4th, 2010 at 10:44 am
# RaiderDebo Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
You cats are funny. The raiders are not good enough to beat this team, anyone with a basic understanding of football could see this coming.
The number 1 rush offense vs. our beat up dtackles. Seymore and Bryant are nicked up, and hendu our best run stuffer didnt play. Even if we had all of our horses ready this was going to be tough for a run d that has improved but is only shaky at best.
No o-line. Every team in the nfl knows that the raiders cant pass protect. This severely limits the play calling, and hampers the offense. Im sure that the screen game to tight ends and backs are not supposed to be the main passing play in our offense. You are forced to run screens and draws when you cant pass protect.
When you are down in the second half you have to throw the ball, especially playing against one of the top run defenses in the league so far this year. Mainly though time is a factor and you have to try and score quickly when you cant stop the opponent from running the ball and chewing up the clock. The Raiders cant win shootouts, They do better in games when the scoring is low, like the rams game.
Grads is a turn over machine. This is not news for anyone that has watched him play over the coarse of his nfl career. Grads turnovers and sacks really killed any chance of the raiders winning. You cant win shootout style games with out a quality nfl trigger man,and grads doesnt have the goods.
Lots of people are making excuses for him but 2 fumbles and and 2 ints are unacceptable. Some have said “he led another comeback”. Wrong again, its only a come back if you win. Moral victories are for losers.
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Post of the day.
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werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
October 4th, 2010 at 10:44 am
When somebody like Tom Cable is the coach of your team, you know its more losses than wins. Pretty Simple.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Guest123 is a clueless person lol……..JLH doesnt suck on PR at all. We have seen him this season get a big return so what you are saying is bullshhhht. I want JLH to focus on offense because that is where we need him the most. As far as being only healthy receiver talk….you displaye your obvious womanly spirit to down someone who produced. Idiot
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LOL, is this a self inflicted tirade?
LMAO
October 4th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Tommy Kelly was surprised they couldn’t stop the run, he was as suprised as the day Al made him a millionaire!…Tommy is confortable at NT, 3 tech DT, and Cornerback…
October 4th, 2010 at 10:47 am
fantasy footballers:
go get Chargers RB Tolbert in free agency or claim him off waivers
trade for Ryan Mathews (if you can)
the Raiders are about to make them look like Earl Campbell & Walter Payton on Sunday!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Grads had a terrible game against one of the worst passing D’s in the league. He so called chemistry with the WR’s wore off for at least this week and he took a sack fumble at the end of the half when we needed points. The Texans were playing soft and allowed us back in the game, if they wanted to they could have stepped on our necks and put up 50+. We need to totally revamp our O-line and we need a QB of the future.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Mistic is wrong and of course Debo would second it. With John Henderson in the game your defense doesnt get pummeled in the run game. Shaky at best? That’s bull. Hendu start in middle and seymour to LDE. Defense is 15th or better
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
There is still no need to panic. Was anyone expecting more than 6 wins this year? We will continue to add pieces in the draft. Im sure the o-line and d-line will continue to get attention.
We have some good young players and, they are gaining experience, by the end of the year we will know what we have to build with. The new head coach will draft his guys, my guess is we have seen the last of cables zbs guys, and straight line power will be the focus.
We are learning that we have glaring weakness at the safety position with huff and branch. Mitchell is on the field more and is up and down, stevie brown continue to impress. We will have a good body of work to eveluate mm34 over the remainder of the season.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Gotta love Gradkowski trying to teach the O-line how to hit a safety…ups, that was a big safety!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# guest123 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:44 am
32 years before that?
Raiders were ‘83 Champs.
From 83 to getting back in, in ‘02 can hardly be viewed as “good years”.
couple years will be 3 decades of futility
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You forget the 1976 SuperBowl or the 1980 Superbowl. You forget the decades of dominance that this team had. You forget that at one time, we owned Monday Night Football. You forget that at one time, other teams shook with fear when our captains came out to flip the coin.
Committment to Excellence….
Pride and Poise….
Silver and Black
This used to mean something
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u stated prior to ‘02 you had 32 good years.
guess you meant to say 4 decades ago the Raiders were a force.
you sure can’t say that from 83 to now. 1 sb appearance and getting embarassed in that sb means 28 years of ugly
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:46 am
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Snap into a Slim Jim…
OOOOHhhhh YEEEEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
How many yards did Tennesee rush for against us?
Henderson played in that game, right?
Thought so.
I have no problem with his fat arsse playing on our Dline but his foot hurts so he can’t go.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:50 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
The new head coach will draft his guys,
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that’s some funny stuff.
new head coach?
draft his guys?
you don’t follow this team very closely, do you?
October 4th, 2010 at 10:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:47 am
fantasy footballers:
go get Chargers RB Tolbert in free agency or claim him off waivers
trade for Ryan Mathews (if you can)
the Raiders are about to make them look like Earl Campbell & Walter Payton on Sunday!
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Note to self: trade for Tolbert and Mathews, give up the farm, start on Sunday.
Got it!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:51 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Mistic is wrong and of course Debo would second it. With John Henderson in the game your defense doesnt get pummeled in the run game. Shaky at best? That’s bull. Hendu start in middle and seymour to LDE. Defense is 15th or better
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Slow down bra, take a breath. The reason i have used the word shaky is becuase although when healthy they are a vastly improved run defense, they have to this point given up lots of rush yards in the first quarter of almost every game, and have given several runs for more than 20 yards, with long tds.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Henderson played in that game, right?
Thought so.
I have no problem with his fat arsse playing on our Dline but his foot hurts so he can’t go.
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Jhill, would you please copy & paste the article (or link) to that Bleecher Report article which states Tommy Kelly is a Top 4 DT in the NFL ???
Thanks in advance,
Podunk Express
October 4th, 2010 at 10:52 am
# J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
How many yards did Tennesee rush for against us?
Henderson played in that game, right?
Thought so.
I have no problem with his fat arsse playing on our Dline but his foot hurts so he can’t go.
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Boy did you even watch that game? When Hendu was in the Tenn game how well did the Tenn rush game do? Exactly I rest my case…..NEXT
October 4th, 2010 at 10:53 am
What the hell are you talking about? Tennesee rushed for 205 yds, with a 5.3 average.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:54 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:51 am
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Mistic is wrong and of course Debo would second it. With John Henderson in the game your defense doesnt get pummeled in the run game. Shaky at best? That’s bull. Hendu start in middle and seymour to LDE. Defense is 15th or better
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Slow down bra, take a breath. The reason i have used the word shaky is becuase although when healthy they are a vastly improved run defense, they have to this point given up lots of rush yards in the first quarter of almost every game, and have given several runs for more than 20 yards, with long tds.
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I get what you are saying but through the course of the game no team is hammering a team with Hendu in the middle. Look at his career….look at the rush numbers of opposing RBs
October 4th, 2010 at 10:54 am
where is Fat Kidd?
now that McFadden is injured i’m sure he REALLY wants us to trade for CJ Spiller now!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
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Yeah, right. Just check out his blog. I have plenty of my own posts on the subject. But I had to tip my cap to the most accurate synopsis of yesterday’s game I’ve seen so far. And you’re the slow one if you can’t see that this team is dealing with the exact same problems of a year ago.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
James Jett (DHB) has no football instincts.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
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Jhill, would you please copy & paste the article (or link) to that Bleecher Report article which states Tommy Kelly is a Top 4 DT in the NFL ???
Thanks in advance,
Podunk Express
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That’s for real? Someone thinks TK is top 4 DT? On the team? Maybe…
in the NFL? LMAO!!
Bleecher report needs to take away his scholarship.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
@ SammyTheBull
werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
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You got the wrong guy. Jamarcus is not here and is struggling with a drug addiction. I hope he can get his personal life in order.
My post also has nothing to do with jason campbell. I am simply stating the facts. Gradkowski through his career turns the ball over a lot. Fumbles, interceptions, and sacks will kill an offense. Especially when you have no offensive line to speak of, and young playmakers still finding their way. This is not a team that can hide gradkowski’s weakness, or survive his mistakes.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
In fantasy football, I got McFadden and Bush.
I’m curious about how bad McFadden’s hammy is, and if Bush takes over. Either way, I’m covered.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
# Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:53 am
What the hell are you talking about? Tennesee rushed for 205 yds, with a 5.3 average.
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Oooooooooh yeah brutha….you better go holla at Vince McMahon to get another shot in the WWE
Watch the plays Hendu was in the game and see how great tennesee really did……as I keep saying the run defense is drastically better with that guy in the game. Seymour and Kelly suck man.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
RaiderDebo Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 9:04 am
*After having a rough day where he took several hits (the offensive line was responsible for two and he was responsible for two… really uneccecarily on his part), Grads is still a soldier and gutted out a tough game and had his guys marching yet again.
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Enough already about how tough Grads is! Some guys act like he’s the only QB in history to take a lot of hits and stay in the game. Nobody talked about how tough JR was last year. And his supporting cast was 10 times worse than the one Grads has now. Results are the same, except last year, we had a division win under our belts.
LMAO at the guy still on Russell’s jock.
Who cares about the supporting cast (the same, by the way, lol)? The guy was lazy and didn’t give a sh;t and was drinking codeine.
Case closed. End of story. He was an AWFUL player. Get over it. Maybe the worst ever, because talent and potential was there, just didn’t really care about football.
Mental toughness is part of the equation too.
I’d like to see Grad wearing 50k worth of jewelry and being a professional celebrity and semi-pro football player.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Nick Miller had a helluva game. hey Al, here´s an idea: cut a WR, sign a big DT off the street, play him in the 4th quarter when our D-line is completely out of gas!
October 4th, 2010 at 10:59 am
# RaydaSwagger Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
James Jett (DHB) has no football instincts.
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HAHAHAHA
October 4th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Nick Miller had a helluva game. hey Al, here´s an idea: cut a WR, sign a big DT off the street, play him in the 4th quarter when our D-line is completely out of gas!
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Howard Green has my vote
October 4th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Better get Hendu a pack of special Slim Jims, cause he aint playing more than 15 snaps per game…ooooooooooooooooohhhh yeah!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Exactly I rest my case…..NEXT
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Ah ha ha … yawwwnnnnnn
Henderson was in the game when Jackson was gashing the defense in the first half of the Rams game mayne.
All the other team has to do to get Henderson off the field is go 3 WRs. You know, like they did on a 1st down in the Tenn game on CJ2Ks big run?
How is the fat nose tackle going to help in that scenario?
Here’s a thought …
How about getting 2 OLBs that actually played the position before and have LB instincts?
How about a couple of DEs that actually played DE?
And lastly, how about a SS that is not a converted CB?
5 players on the field with ZERO instincts at their position. LMFAO!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:01 am
@ Bauce 4 Real
I get what you are saying but through the course of the game no team is hammering a team with Hendu in the middle. Look at his career….look at the rush numbers of opposing RBs
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I agree 100 percent. I would even say the more he has played the better our run d has played. Also thier best games will come when seymoure is 100 percent along with hendu. Kelly and bryant can round out the rotation as they are more penetrators than run stuffers. hopefully we will find a solid run stuffer in the draft.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:01 am
I’m sick of all you guys trashing Jason Campbell and Darrius Heyward-Bey!
According to Al Davis we have the next Jim Plunkett and Cliff Branch
Get Over It!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Actually, Tommy Kelly has done such a good job that despite facing constant double teams, he was the NFL’s 14th most productive of all D-linemen, including defensive ends.
Of all NFL defensive tackles, he was the fourth most productive.
Based on production, Tommy Kelly is the best player on the Raiders D-line. Yes, even better than Richard Seymour and Trevor Scott.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/327021-oakland-raiders-its-time-to-get-tommy-kelly-a-partner-in-crime-at-dt
October 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
thanks Jhill !!!!
(post #673)
G123, read it and weep
October 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
You can never say with a clean heart or a straight face that a qb that had 3 turnover did his part. Unless you mean did his part to ensure a loss.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I wish that we could do to others what they do to us.
They can run 3 WR sets all day on us, but we don’t have the personnel to do it to them.
Like having an arm tied behind you.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Who cares about the supporting cast (the same, by the way, lol)? The guy was lazy and didn’t give a sh;t and was drinking codeine.
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Dumb question. There is a direct correlation between the supporting cast and the performance of the QB. The Raiders had the worst supporting cast in the NFL last year. JR suffered for it and was scapegoated out of town for this garbage that we’ve seen this year. Hue Jackson has helped, but he can’t overcome the bad OL and young receivers. And no, this isn’t the same supporting cast as last year.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:05 am
# Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Better get Hendu a pack of special Slim Jims, cause he aint playing more than 15 snaps per game…ooooooooooooooooohhhh yeah!
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Yeah that may be true and then we shall still get gashed
October 4th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Jerry was here doing updates yesterday. You will never see Jerry login on his Fat Kidd ID during the games.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:54 am
where is Fat Kidd?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:06 am
It amazes me that some of you don’t see the OLB situation as a problem.
Quentin Groves was a DEFENSIVE END before he came to the Raiders!
Wimbley is a pass rush specialist!
WTF are we doing ?????
October 4th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Trevor Scott was a TE …
Lamar Houston was a DT !!!!!
Why are they starting at DE for us ???!?!?!?
WTF are we doing ???!?!?!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Bauce,
Remember me asking why SeaPerch & Murphy were getting a free pass in here after week 1?
Sho nuff Murphy has a chance to keep a drive alive yesterday but his alligator arms got in the way on that pass over the middle.
Murphy = the most gutless WR I’ve ever seen in a Raider uni.
The end
October 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Tommy kelly is a good player, however he is like the rest of our d-linemen ion that he is good in rotation, he is not a guy that can do it on his own. When he is kept fresh with a healthy hendu and seymore and bryant they are good enough to slow the run down. As long as the injuries on to dtackles are there we will struggle against the run.
The next game that this team realistically has chance to beat is the whiners. These next two games should present opportunities to throw are youngsters into the deep end. because of injuries to starters and ineffective play by others, the door is now open to start the youth movement, including b campbell.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
JR suffered for it and was scapegoated out of town for this garbage that we’ve seen this year.
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You can’t be serious!
Russell was high on drugs more often than not.
THAT is why he is no longer on the team.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
# J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Exactly I rest my case…..NEXT
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Ah ha ha … yawwwnnnnnn
Henderson was in the game when Jackson was gashing the defense in the first half of the Rams game mayne.
All the other team has to do to get Henderson off the field is go 3 WRs. You know, like they did on a 1st down in the Tenn game on CJ2Ks big run?
How is the fat nose tackle going to help in that scenario?
Here’s a thought …
How about getting 2 OLBs that actually played the position before and have LB instincts?
How about a couple of DEs that actually played DE?
And lastly, how about a SS that is not a converted CB?
5 players on the field with ZERO instincts at their position. LMFAO!
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LOL too easy to cut this….J why do you even try?
We have talked about that game and the first Q that happened and how did Jackson do after 1quarter? Youre done lol
LOL we talking 3 wr sets or running the ball? NEXT
October 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
It amazes me that some of you don’t see the OLB situation as a problem.
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relax man
We still have Thomas Howard, Ricky Brown, Sam Williams and that guy on the practice squad
plus Mitch plays LB sometimes too, right?
if BSJ got his wish, Condo would play LB too (thats his 2nd position behind long snapper)
October 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
You dont have to look any further than the N Miller situation to understand the lunacy of AL’s ways. Why any coach with self respect comes here is beyond me.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
thanks Jhill !!!!
(post #673)
G123, read it and weep
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What kind of crack is that author smoking? That is the dumbest article and part of the reason I stop going to bleecherreport.
It’s kind of like when I first saw Glen Beck on Headline News and I actually took him seriously. The man scared the crap out of me.
Then, I figured out the joke. BR report should censor stupid authors as they destroy their credibility, and views will plummet.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Actually, Tommy Kelly has done such a good job that despite facing constant double teams, he was the NFL’s 14th most productive of all D-linemen, including defensive ends.
Of all NFL defensive tackles, he was the fourth most productive.
Based on production, Tommy Kelly is the best player on the Raiders D-line. Yes, even better than Richard Seymour and Trevor Scott.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/327021-oakland-raiders-its-time-to-get-tommy-kelly-a-partner-in-crime-at-dt
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA that was too funny
October 4th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Coach on Wheels Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
GRADKOWSKI’S FAULT?
Anybody that watched the game the least bit sober knows if Grads had TIED the game at 31 the Defense would’ve gave it back in the 4th or OT.
TWO 90 yard scoring drives.
After Murphy gave the Texans the ball, the Raiders couldn’t stop them from running for a 1st down or Grads would’ve got another shot. BUT knowing they were running, the D choked.
Jason Campbell crowd is clueless. With JC it would’ve been another blowout.
Exactly.
Brien, RE: Henderson, exactly. Without a real NT, you’re asking your rookie MLB (who was awful yesterday. Just awful) and your awful SS to stop the run.
The Raiders were playing read and react D all day, and even when read correctly, don’t fly to the ball and don’t wrap.
LMFAO at the guys saying that Grad ain’t the guy. He had 2 careless turnovers.
The first didn’t hurt us. The pick did only because the D had already given up earlier in the quarter. Down 7. SEVEN!
Unbelieveable.
Let Murphy catch that ball and see what happens.
Coaches had no intermediate routes to WR for 3,5 quarters of football.
It was all designed to pull the D and get McFadden in space, which isn’t a bad idea, other than you don’t keep the D honest and ESPECIALLY when McFadden goes down.
Can we get a quick slant? A post? An out?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:11 am
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:06 am
It amazes me that some of you don’t see the OLB situation as a problem.
Quentin Groves was a DEFENSIVE END before he came to the Raiders!
Wimbley is a pass rush specialist!
WTF are we doing ?????
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It amazes me that you people can whine about everything, BUT, the man in charge.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Jill, are you making people laugh again?
Nothing new…..lol
October 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Why any coach with self respect comes here is beyond me.
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Brown, Sanjay Lal said it was either this or manage a Wendys
October 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
The Raiders were running the ZBS system for 3 years EXCLUSIVELY, so that means the defense was practicing against that and the D was still gashed yesterday by the ZBS??
Unacceptable.
If it’s not one thing wrong with this team it’s the other….they can’t all come together for one game and pull out an important victory huh?
The old man needs to suck it up and man up and give Harbaugh or Gruden what they want to turn this team around! He won’t though….and the next HC will be Hue Jackson, because he will accept working under the old mans lousy conditions!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
What kind of crack is that author smoking? That is the dumbest article and part of the reason I stop going to bleecherreport.
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LOL!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Anyone who tries to put the blame on Grads for this loss, doesn’t know what they are talking about and is an idiot!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
KKKell, remember how excited you were when H Jackson came aboard?
Remember when I asked the question “what has this guy done as a OC” ?
KKKell, no need to respond. Go chase parked shopping carts @ Safeway.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Kell, Davis is not the problem. He provides the coaches with talent. I will agree that he is not good at picking coaches anymore. I wish he would shell out the money for Cowher. That guy would love to resurect the Raiders. Davis just needs to get a good coach.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Brown, Sanjay Lal said it was either this or manage a Wendys
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John Herrera said it was KFC manager was his other option.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
# Mistabr0wn Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Bauce,
Remember me asking why SeaPerch & Murphy were getting a free pass in here after week 1?
Sho nuff Murphy has a chance to keep a drive alive yesterday but his alligator arms got in the way on that pass over the middle.
Murphy = the most gutless WR I’ve ever seen in a Raider uni.
The end
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Ouch but hard to argue against Mista…..well played Bauer
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I still think Campbell is the answer. Grads is tough, but you need more than that to win in the NFL. Davis knows QB talent when he sees it. I’m sure Campbell has got what it takes.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Dumb question. There is a direct correlation between the supporting cast and the performance of the QB. The Raiders had the worst supporting cast in the NFL last year. JR suffered for it and was scapegoated out of town for this garbage that we’ve seen this year. Hue Jackson has helped, but he can’t overcome the bad OL and young receivers. And no, this isn’t the same supporting cast as last year.
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Ok, there’s no Gary Russell, there’s Marcell Reece.
OL, WRs, RBs, it’s all the same. They averaged 10 points a game with that clown. They are more than double that with Gradkowski? Are you Russell’s agent? If so, nice work.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:16 am
RR,
If you haven’t tried the spicy chicken nuggs @ Wendys for .99 you are killin yourself! Sanjay should bolt for a hot N juicy gig.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:17 am
mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
You cats are funny. The raiders are not good enough to beat this team, anyone with a basic understanding of football could see this coming.
The number 1 rush offense vs. our beat up dtackles. Seymore and Bryant are nicked up, and hendu our best run stuffer didnt play. Even if we had all of our horses ready this was going to be tough for a run d that has improved but is only shaky at best.
No o-line. Every team in the nfl knows that the raiders cant pass protect. This severely limits the play calling, and hampers the offense. Im sure that the screen game to tight ends and backs are not supposed to be the main passing play in our offense. You are forced to run screens and draws when you cant pass protect.
When you are down in the second half you have to throw the ball, especially playing against one of the top run defenses in the league so far this year. Mainly though time is a factor and you have to try and score quickly when you cant stop the opponent from running the ball and chewing up the clock. The Raiders cant win shootouts, They do better in games when the scoring is low, like the rams game.
Grads is a turn over machine. This is not news for anyone that has watched him play over the coarse of his nfl career. Grads turnovers and sacks really killed any chance of the raiders winning. You cant win shootout style games with out a quality nfl trigger man,and grads doesnt have the goods.
Lots of people are making excuses for him but 2 fumbles and and 2 ints are unacceptable. Some have said “he led another comeback”. Wrong again, its only a come back if you win. Moral victories are for losers.
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Wake up call….Grads is the best overall QB on this roster! Period!
The Raiders would have won the game if the DEFENSE would have showed up! With Andre out and Foster not playing until the 2nd quarter also??
Unacceptable!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Grads is the only reason we have a chance in games. That defense looked like a bunch wimps. 24 points should be plenty at home for a win.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
If you haven’t tried the spicy chicken nuggs @ Wendys for .99 you are killin yourself! Sanjay should bolt for a hot N juicy gig.
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bwahahahaha!
and further contribute to the shame that is JaMarcus Russell?
you know who thier #1 customer is …
October 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Bottom Line: Defense quit. Down 7. With 12 minutes left…. in the 3rd.
Offense played well despite themselves and coaching.
I think the D was amazed they were still in the game.
Read and react don’t work with these guys. The few times they tried to key on the play, McClain had them backwards.
The many, many times they did read it, they’re not flying around, they’re looking at teammates to make tackles.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Wow well……try to shake it off by tomorrow and pray for a lucky win vs SD…….these coaches and players can do that positive BS in the pressers but you gotta win. We were real lucky to even be in that game. We were physically dominated
October 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Ghost, Grads is tough but lacks intelligence. The Raiders need someone who can get the ball deep, and Campbell is the guy. With JC, this team could score 35 a game. Apparantly that is what we need because the coaches can’t coach the defense out of a whet paper sack.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Sure Cower would to resurrect the Raiders.
And the sky is green and all people are nice and there are lollypop tree’s in the desert.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Can we stop talking about that player that no longer is a part of this team, but sucked and took this team into the ground with his cough syrup…no talent… waste of space…shhh for brains, rocket propelled arm with a ten cent head ex QB?
Talk about Grads, Boller, or Campbell if you must speak of QB’s.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:20 am
We have talked about that game and the first Q that happened and how did Jackson do after 1 quarter?
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Steven Jackson had all of 4 carries in the 2nd qtr, lol!
I don’t even know what you are arguing to be quite frank. I think we have ALL said that the Dline should be Seymour-Henderson-Kelly-ShoNasty. Fact of the matter is the fat man’s foot hurts and he isn’t up to playing.
Meanwhile, our OLBs and SS SUCK!!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Davis knows QB talent when he sees it. I’m sure Campbell has got what it takes.
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What the hell makes you think that?
You’re living in fairyland, pal.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
So many people claimed Crabkowski was the answer. The mistake prone physically challenged qb is all sizzle and no steak. The little engine that couldnt had a game that showed you who he really is, not doug flutie, or jeff garcia, but more like orko, the hamburgler, or gleek the monkey from the wonder twins. Somewhat interesting little characters but cant be the lead.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Nick Miller had a helluva game. hey Al, here´s an idea: cut a WR, sign a big DT off the street, play him in the 4th quarter when our D-line is completely out of gas!
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Howard Green has my vote
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Green resigned w/ the Jets
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Did you see Campbell on the sideleines when Grad came back? If you don’t know they’re exact words, play it back and I’ll do the subtitles.
Grad is warming up on the sideline.
Campbell walks up to him.
Campbell: “Uh, yo, you got this?”
Grad: “Yup.”
Campbell: “Ok, cool, I’ma go smoke.”
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
*love
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
guest123 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
In fantasy football, I got McFadden and Bush.
I’m curious about how bad McFadden’s hammy is, and if Bush takes over. Either way, I’m covered.
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Cable will probably sat day to day. In otherwords, 6 weeks.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Who was talking to Grad on the sidelines during the game when they were fighting to come back?
Boller.
Where was Campbell?
Beats me.
Guy sucks. Reminds me of Russell last year.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:22 am
First off Murphy should not have ate that popcorn before the game.Kelly you suck.They ran the ball right where you were suppost to be.You get paid all that cash to suck.Seymor cant handle the middle all by him self so shape up kelly or ship out.Bruce played good made the most out of what he had to work with.Had that 1 bad pass that was the int.Walker you sucked Henderson sucked and loper messed up too.If the line would play better Bruce would be even better out there.I think other than those people i named the Raiders played good and they didnt lay down like they use too.Getting better guys.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Davis knows QB talent when he sees it
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Pathetic, I’d laugh if I could.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Unfortunately, Jhill, Scott is on scholarship and we have to rely on him to ’set the edge.’
Matt S should be in on most every snap. He can play both run and pass.
Scott should play 5 passing downs a game. Maybe. As TE.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Davis knows QB talent when he sees it. I’m sure Campbell has got what it takes.
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What the hell makes you think that?
You’re living in fairyland, pal.
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Jason Campbell 2009 3,618 yards
2008 3,245 yards
Those are major league stats compared to our QBs. Give him the rock and let the dogs out!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Sure Cower would to resurrect the Raiders.
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Bill Cowher would never come to a place like this, even as GM!
he’d be handicapped. no control. puppet and fall guy for Al Davis
coaches & other higher staffing positions will be filled with guys that #1 are proven failures elsewhere #2 somebody we’ve never heard of thats unqualified or #3 guys that use this gig as a stepping stone to bigger & better opportunities
October 4th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Al Davis should turn over the franchise to his son, like George Stienbrenner did with his son. Then he died a short time later. George got all the enjoyment out of it that he could. When you get to be 80, long term planning is attending to your final affairs.
Maybe Al’s son is smart enough to hire a GM and the healing can begin.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Davis knows QB talent when he sees it
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Pathetic, I’d laugh if I could.
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I know you are old, but I didn’t know you were senile. Davis discovered Lamonica, Stabler, Plunkett, Beuerlein, and Gannon. Plus, Marinovich and Russel would have been all stars if not for there drug problems.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Pathetic, I’d laugh if I could.
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Kell: botox?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:28 am
LMAO!
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# Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Plus, Marinovich and Russel would have been all stars if not for there drug problems.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:28 am
How was it the D absolutely quit. I mean quit in the 3rd quarter?
Maybe if it was like 28-0 and the offense couldn’t move the ball, but 3 red zone TDs, possibly a 4th on the way.
Yes, Grad’s clock is off. He took off when he thought there was no time and no WRs and got clobbered.
When he trusts O Line, he stands in the pocket way too long and gets hammered. He threw a pick. He was not perfect and never is and never will be but earned his paycheck and will and should start the rest of the year, barring injury.
Boller should be 2.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:28 am
If the Raiders were a public corporation, Al Davis would have been ousted as CEO years ago.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
No matter the opinion …
DT, NT, DE, LB, or S
Everyone agrees the defense is a disaster!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
DHB (Top of the screen).. about 18sec. into the video nearly snaps his own ankle.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d81b0bf6b/QB-Gradkowski-to-WR-Higgins-26-yd-pass
October 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Jason Campbell 2009 3,618 yards
2008 3,245 yards
Those are major league stats compared to our QBs. Give him the rock and let the dogs out!
8-8 (finished 2-6)
4-12
If you want the dogs let out, hope we sign Mike Vick next year.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am
If Campbell was in that game he would of got sacked and beat up with his drop back style the Texans would of ate him alive with the play of our line.You guys who say put Campbell in need to start watching the games and quit talking crap.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Everyone agrees the defense is a disaster!
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Had such high hopes after the first 2 games. Where did it all go so wrong?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
How was it the D absolutely quit. I mean quit in the 3rd quarter?
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I don’t think they quit.
They gave up the “big play” right outta half time.
The other scores were on short fields, right.
No to mention that they are just not that good mayne.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
first two (PRESEASON) games….correction
October 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
No matter the opinion …
DT, NT, DE, LB, or S
Everyone agrees the defense is a disaster!
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so can we all agree that Seymour, Kelly, Mitchell and Eugene aren’t getting it done and that McClain & Houston were wasted picks until the interior DL is addressed?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
J Hill Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am
No matter the opinion …
DT, NT, DE, LB, or S
Everyone agrees the defense is a disaster!
I honestly don’t even think it would be this bad if we played to our strengths and avoided weaknesses.
They studied and studied and had a head coach that is an expert in the style of offense we faced.
Groves is garbage. Trade for AJ Hawk. Huff is garbage. Start Stevie.
Other than that, I’d take the guys on D if they played right.
We played so far off the ball it was comical. Too afraid to commit to anything. Read and react and they reacted so poorly.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Hot Shot Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am
If Campbell was in that game he would of got sacked and beat up with his drop back style the Texans would of ate him alive with the play of our line.You guys who say put Campbell in need to start watching the games and quit talking crap.
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That really makes a lot of sense. Not! The Colts wouldn’t keep Manning on the bench if their O-line sucked just so he wouldn’t get sacked. Put Campbell in and change the game plan. These coaches suck. It’s not the players.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
LA to TheBay says
LMFAO at the guys saying that Grad ain’t the guy. He had 2 careless turnovers.
The first didn’t hurt us. The pick did only because the D had already given up earlier in the quarter. Down 7. SEVEN!
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Careless turnovers are 2 to many, and 2 much for a weak raider team the is in a rebuilding phase. Your qb must not only be a play maker,( Which grads is occasionally) he must also be a game manager. When you turn the ball over three times and nearly a fourth, you have failed to manage the game.
All turn overs hurt! Even when the opposing team doesnt score, it hurts because you have lost an opportunity to score and run your game plan! There are no such thing as harmless turn overs.
Of course the defense struggled! You are playing short handed against one of the premier offenses in the league this year. This is a game where you have to win a shootout. Grads cant win that kind of game.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
so can we all agree that Seymour, Kelly, Mitchell and Eugene aren’t getting it done and that McClain & Houston were wasted picks until the interior DL is addressed?
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you go too far…give the rooks some time.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Davis discovered Lamonica, Stabler, Plunkett, Beuerlein, and Gannon. Plus, Marinovich and Russel would have been all stars if not for there drug problems.
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You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Just parroting thing you’ve heard.
The Raiders are 30-86, working on the 8th straight 11 loss season, and some monkey is talking about Darryl Lamonica……….
October 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Seymor did some good stuff yesterday he just cant play the middle by him self.Kelly did nothing in there.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Groves is garbage. Trade for AJ Hawk. Huff is garbage. Start Stevie.
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LOL @ LA!
I swear some of you Laker fans start to get loopy as the NBA season approaches
October 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
and that McClain & Houston were wasted picks until the interior DL is addressed?
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NO!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Grads suxs! yet, he is by far the best QB on the roster!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
No matter the opinion …
DT, NT, DE, LB, or S
Everyone agrees the defense is a disaster!
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so can we all agree that Seymour, Kelly, Mitchell and Eugene aren’t getting it done and that McClain & Houston were wasted picks until the interior DL is addressed?
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Seymour is a luxury to have. Should be 34 DE and moved around occasionally to get a mismatch. Kelly, I don’t know. You can’t keep waiting for him to play up to potential. 43 DE on rushing downs.
McClain? I hope its just rookie-itis cause he was not good. At all. All that talk about the SEC being not so different from the NFL? Talk.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Ghost to the Post Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Grads is the only reason we have a chance in games. That defense looked like a bunch wimps. 24 points should be plenty at home for a win.
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EXACTLY!
Defense played like PANSIES yesterday….when I knew it was going to come down to that coaching staff and unit to step it the hell up.
Grads is the tough as nails, gritty leader this team needs, especially with that sorry ass O-Line when it comes to pass protecting. He at least keeps the offense and team fighting.
Can you imagine how ugly it would have been if JaBustas or Campbell were the QB yesterday??
OMG!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Is Al Davis a good GM?…Exhibit A please: Tom Cable… I rest my case.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Campbell might be better than Grads, but he has NO CHANCE behind this O-line.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
McClain & Houston were wasted picks UNTIL the interior DL is addressed?
Yes. But what else would they have done in that draft? The best NTs were gone, as were the best OL.
More should have been done in FA or trade.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:36 am
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Just parroting thing you’ve heard.
The Raiders are 30-86, working on the 8th straight 11 loss season, and some monkey is talking about Darryl Lamonica……….
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I don’t appreciate the racist remark.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Grads suxs! yet, he is by far the best QB on the roster!
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I thought Al Davis loved old wiley vets?
Jon Kitna, Mark Brunell, Brad Johnson still around someplace?
I’ll take Jeff George at this point!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Of course the defense struggled! You are playing short handed against one of the premier offenses in the league this year. This is a game where you have to win a shootout. Grads cant win that kind of game.
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Premier? Shorthanded? They were playing with a banged up starting TE, and they plugged in the scrub backup and he played like Antonio Gates against us. They had a gimpy uberstud WR AJ and they spotted us a third of the game without their stud RB. Still their backups carved out chunks of territory.
Houston was playing us with personnel reserved for the 2nd and 3rd qtr of a preseason game and made our defense look like they were on rollerskates.
That was no “premier” offense. Sorry.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I’d take the guys on D if they played right.
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If they played right ????
LMFAO!
Ideally, I’d go with a Dline of ShoNasty-Henderson-Seymour-Wimbley. LBs = Brown-McClain-Howard. S = Brown and Huff. CBs = Nnamdi and Routt.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:39 am
In every other city if your qb has a history of turning the ball over, and turned it over 3 times in a loss yesterday he would be getting killed. Im still not sure why or how crabkowski has earned a pass. His blunders were horrendous, and when you look at the big picture honestly you have to admit that he is not an nfl starter.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Kell, is it true they named the “Black Hole” after you?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Did anyone see Zach Miller’s interview after the game?
Here’s what he said: ” The Texans wanted the game more than we did. They were more physical than us from the beginning to end.”
Romo who is on the show went ballistic hearing a player saying the other team wanted it more than us, the home team. I know Romo is Romo but he said management needs to put fire under the collective behind of this team.
The second highest paid Roster in NFL didn’t want the game more than the visiting team.
What does that tell U?
It tells me the coach didn’t fire them up.
It tells me the coach is a player’s coach.
It tells me He’s not tough on these overpaid/under-performing players.
It tells me players are running the show and they’re not motivated to risk injury to get a W and instead choose to coast.
Another thing: Rolando Mclain is more like Napoleon Harris than Patrick Willis. Patrick Willis will be insulted to have been mentioned in the same sentence as Rolando.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:40 am
You put manning behind our line he would suck too.He would get sacked too.our line is not made for drop back passers.Want me to say it again.We have the best QB in there for the line we have so watch the games.That oline is filled with Bench warmers.Theres maybe two decent people on that line the rest suck.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Of course the defense struggled! You are playing short handed against one of the premier offenses in the league this year. This is a game where you have to win a shootout. Grads cant win that kind of game.
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Um, 24 points my man. 3 Red Zone TDs. Possibly a 4th on the way. And you’re right, the fumble cost us 3 or maybe even 7 at the end of the half, so I admit my mistake there. Point taken.
But your solution is comical. Campbell? The guy has no heart. Pray for a trade.
If anything, Grad showed and shows us those are EXACTLY the types of gam,es he wins.
Is it strange to anyone else how he seems to march us down the field in clutch situations only to have chumps f^%^% it up?
He was feelin it in the 4th. You see him get in Louis’s face after that drop?
The D makes a stop (lol) on 3rd and 6 and the Raiders STILL have a chance to come back.
LOL at the guy who thinks this was Grad’s fault. 31 points??????
The D gave up with 45% OF THE GAME TO GO, DOWN BY 7.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
In every other city if your qb has a history of turning the ball over, and turned it over 3 times in a loss yesterday he would be getting killed. Im still not sure why or how crabkowski has earned a pass. His blunders were horrendous, and when you look at the big picture honestly you have to admit that he is not an nfl starter.
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much to harsh on Grads. Put Drew Brees behind this line, and watch him have a season ending injury within 4 weeks. Manning would last about 2 games. The QB should treat the offensive line to alpo snax after the game.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:43 am
guest123 Says:
Premier? Shorthanded? They were playing with a banged up starting TE, and they plugged in the scrub backup and he played like Antonio Gates against us. They had a gimpy uberstud WR AJ and they spotted us a third of the game without their stud RB. Still their backups carved out chunks of territory.
Houston was playing us with personnel reserved for the 2nd and 3rd qtr of a preseason game and made our defense look like they were on rollerskates.
That was no “premier” offense. Sorry.
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Thank you for illustarting my point. The texans are better than us! The texans are deeper than us! While we are banged up we couldnt really think we could contain their run game. By the way they boast the top rushing offense in the league. Are you surprised? kubiak was under sham-ahan, plug in a rb behind their zbs and watch him go. Did you think we were good enough to win this game?
laughable.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:43 am
I’ll take Jeff George at this point!
RRS, what game are you watching?
Ones in which Huff is a player and Higgins has an IQ larger than his foot size?
I’m sorry my friend, I respect you as a man and a semi pro, typically agree with you, but I think you’re way off here.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 pm
With Almighty
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I think that says it all right there.
His name is Gardowski, thank you very much.
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Now that’s funny!!!!
thank you very much.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am
mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:39 am
In every other city if your qb has a history of turning the ball over, and turned it over 3 times in a loss yesterday he would be getting killed. Im still not sure why or how crabkowski has earned a pass. His blunders were horrendous, and when you look at the big picture honestly you have to admit that he is not an nfl starter.
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Uhhhh…one of those turnovers was not on Grads.
Murphy dropped a ball that clearly should have been caught and would have extended the drive and it ended up in a defenders hands for the INT.
Your pointing fingers in the wrong direction regarding the loss yesterday! Plain and Simple.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Areas that need to improve:
GM
Coaching
DT/NT
FS
WR
SS
WLB
CB
October 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Im still not sure why or how crabkowski has earned a pass. His blunders were horrendous, and when you look at the big picture honestly you have to admit that he is not an nfl starter.
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The fact that the only answer you get to this question is Gardowski is better than Russell or Camplunkett says it all.
I can’t believe the pass he gets for taking that delay of game penalty at the 1/2 foot line last week.
But he is without question the best QB on the team right now. If you saw Jason Campbell when he thought he was about to come in the game, that should have told it all. Looked like he didn’t even want to play. NEVER took off his hat and put on his helmet. Shoulda been dying to get in there, but is was more laloop-de-loopness.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am
If they played right ????
LMFAO!
Ideally, I’d go with a Dline of ShoNasty-Henderson-Seymour-Wimbley. LBs = Brown-McClain-Howard. S = Brown and Huff. CBs = Nnamdi and Routt.
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I would too. I think you misunderstood. Not neccecarily the starting lineup, just the guys available on D in general.
This is a coaching issue, pure and simple.
Starting guys outta position, playing waaaay off the ball and running into blocks and taking poor angles, even after diagnosing the play.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Gotta agree. Put Campbell in there, and with his fire and heart Tommy Kelly & Trevor Scott would have limited the Texans to 70 yds on the ground.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Did you think we were good enough to win this game?
laughable.
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I have to think that, or why bother watching?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Areas that need to improve:
GM
Coaching
LT
RT
C
DT/NT
FS
RG
WR
SS
WLB
CB
So… how do these all get addressed in one (two? three?) offseason(s)? You can only do so much through free agency.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Is this how Kell usually roles? He says some outrageous statement and then checks out. What a coward!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
RRS, what game are you watching?
Ones in which Huff is a player and Higgins has an IQ larger than his foot size?
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Ouch!
RRS refuses to order the NFL ticket from DTV. I think we should pitch in for his baby shower and hook him up! Forget about the encyclopedias.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
The whole building is filled with cockroaches.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am
injuries are a part of the game.
However, a healthy Henderson & Goethel = run defense solved
move McClain to WLB and Kelly to the bench (but still in the DT rotation)
October 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Areas that need to improve:
GM
Coaching
LT
RT
C
DT/NT
FS
RG
WR
SS
WLB
CB
So… how do these all get addressed in one (two? three?) offseason(s)? You can only do so much through free agency.
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All good questions. Now imagine you are Al Davis and you are 81 years old. How much more patience do you have?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Bottom line: D is better prepared, doesn’t quit down 21-14 early in 3rd and only gives up 23, its a win.
Offense, led by Grad with no help from his play-callers after McFadden went down, did enough to win.
It’s 1-3, looking bleaker but not over.
If offense, defense and special teams ever decided to show up on the same day at the same time, we’d win.
Our schedule looks easier with SF and Seattle now. 8-8 is still possible.
I’m not gonna quit, but it will not be a good week for the Raider or their fans.
I’m out. Be good.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I would really like to see a healthy Goethel in the game, either at MLB or WLB.
McClain – Goethel – Wimbley with Howard and Groves subbing in occasionally looks good on paper, anyway.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Wow! Kell calling people monkeys and cockroaches. What a lowlife.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Rolando McClain = Sheldon Quarles
October 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
The whole building is filled with cockroaches.
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Well someone turn on the gawd damn lights!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
TheyCallMeAssassin Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Areas that need to improve:
GM
Coaching
DT/NT
FS
WR
SS
WLB
CB
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It starts with a new GM and a REAL Head Coach like Harbaugh or Gruden and letting them pick their coaches and have rosetr input and than and only then will the losing demons of this organization and team be exorcised.
The puppett lap dog head coaches that the old looney man Al hires aren’t going to cut it.
End of story!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Lol grad or campbell will net same result as long as coaching is this bad. Cable still has a job lol
October 4th, 2010 at 11:51 am
injuries are a part of the game.
However, a healthy Henderson & Goethel = run defense solved
move McClain to WLB and Kelly to the bench (but still in the DT rotation)
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Kelly spends too much time on the bench. Make him earn his $$$
October 4th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Harbaugh + Campbell = Super Bowl
October 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I’m trying to understand where the Goethel crowd came from?
This guy has done NOTHING.
Preseason … Nothing!
Mysterious injury after doing NOTHING in the last preseason game featuring scrubs. He couldn’t even get on the field mayne!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Kelly = Joke
October 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
LA to TheBay Says:
Um, 24 points my man. 3 Red Zone TDs. Possibly a 4th on the way. And you’re right, the fumble cost us 3 or maybe even 7 at the end of the half, so I admit my mistake there. Point taken.
But your solution is comical. Campbell? The guy has no heart. Pray for a trade.
If anything, Grad showed and shows us those are EXACTLY the types of gam,es he wins.
Is it strange to anyone else how he seems to march us down the field in clutch situations only to have chumps f^%^% it up?
He was feelin it in the 4th. You see him get in Louis’s face after that drop?
The D makes a stop (lol) on 3rd and 6 and the Raiders STILL have a chance to come back.
LOL at the guy who thinks this was Grad’s fault. 31 points??????
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Twenety four points was obviously not enoguh. We needed to be in the high 30’s. Grads mistakes killed any chance of scoring that many points. There are high scoring games every week in the nfl even good great defenses will have a game or two during the coarse of a season that they dont play well.
I havent posted anything today about playing jason campbell, im talking about honestly looking at crabkowski since so many people said he should be our starter moving forward. I say crabs is who always has been, good second banana but we need an upgrade.
All this talk abut near comebacks is ridiculous! Bottom line is grads is just as guilty and responsible for the losses as anyone else. He has 6 turn overs in his time on the field this year which continues his career trend. No excuses just plain truth.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Kelly = Garbage
October 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Kelly = Kelly Price
October 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
A link to Goethel’s facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Goethel/847665461
October 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Al Davis will throw Cable under the bus later this year, and most of you people will be happily yapping Playoffs, until this time next year.
How do you delude yourselves like that?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Singletary shuns Smith
You might not want to get San Francisco 49ers coach Mike Singletary and Atlanta Falcons coach Mike Smith at the same dinner table.
Singletary didn’t shake Smith’s hand after the Falcons’ 16-14 victory over the 49ers Sunday at the Georgia Dome, according to a league source.
Smith went to the center of the field to look for Singletary and never saw him. That’s because Singletary didn’t show.
Yes, it was a tough loss. Yes, his team is now 0-4 and Singletary’s job is on the line. But the rule is — unless, of course you’re Bill Belichick and you write your own rules — is you always shake the winning coach’s hand.
Whether it’s an outdated tradition or not, it’s the way it is. Not shaking Smith’s hand speaks volumes about Singletary.
Is there is a reason? Did he think Smith ran it up when the Falcons blew out the 49ers last year at their place?
We’ll find out. But, for now, it looks like a classless act.
http://peteprisco.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6315047/25022631
October 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Ray,
Campbell needs 4 1st rd picks on the Oline to get to the SB.
I supported the trade right up to the slide 2 yds short of the first down marker game 1. Showed me all I needed to see from this clown!
His deep ball is very inaccurate to boot.
Not interested in seeing him under center anytime soon.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Kelly spends too much time on the bench. Make him earn his $$$
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he hasn’t EARNED playing time imo
I hate putting guys out of the field just because of thier income. if Cable got the green light to bench Huff for Eugene, Russell for Grads and now Campbell for Grads I’m sure he can get the green light to bench TK if he’s not living up to his potential either. even the coaching staff seems content to sattle our QB’s with young wides that cant catch and athletic O-Liners that cant pass protect
October 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
The truth is, no matter who the Raiders have plugged in on either side of the ball over the last eight years, the team has had the same problems.
- can’t protect against outside rushers
- constant false start penalties
- poor gap discipline / inability to stop the run
- give up big plays several times a game
So I’m not entirely convinced that bringing in new players or coaches is going to do it. There’s one constant in all of this, and that’s Al as GM. Does he really personally change the offensive or defensive game plans like Warren Sapp says? I don’t know. But something stinks, and I’m hesitant to put all the blame on the players. Especially because every new, promising player that has come through Oakland has panned out the same way.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
where did KoolKota go?
October 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Kool went to spank his monkey.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
I was watching last night’s Giants/Bears game. The commentators were gushing over the Giants run defense. Saying they create hard edges and control gaps. They make it sound like rocket science. Are you Raiders coaches listenting? Take notes.
October 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Waddup fellas….another looooooong Monday. Everyone quit trippin’ out on McClain. The kid is gonna be alright. He is a rookie at the most demanding position on defense in the NFL. He’s basically our QB on that side of the ball. Yeah, he can make a couple more big plays a game, but he is not the reason we’re getting our tails whipped.
Seymour and Kelly just need to play better. That same interior can produce better results if they have fresh legs to come in for them every now and then and Henderson would’ve been nice as a temporary fill-in yesterday.
Ford should’ve gotten some more burn yesterday. He looked spry on that reverse and it would’ve been nice to see him run some routes and get some passes tossed his way with Murph and DHB totally ineffective yesterday.
And please, please, please get Higgins off of that PR team. I’m so sick of the 1 step juke, plant, spin, and eventual tackle for a 2 yard return. Every freakin’ time…
October 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Why is everyone so surprised we are 1-3?!?!?!
This team is rebuilding. We have some good young pieces and a long way to go.
Main problems are head coach, o-line, and our starting qb!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Don’t we play SD this weekend? Let’s sign Turd Sands for 1 game.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I’m trying to understand where the Goethel crowd came from?
This guy has done NOTHING.
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Jhill: Travis Goethel was a beast at ASU!
Print That
October 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Were scoring more points than we have in years and they still bag on Bruce.His rating is over 70%.Hes tough and is a leader on offense.Its other guys on the team that keep making Dumb mistakes.In the draft or by trade we need a nose tackle and OL players.Mclain will get better he still learning.We fix those areas we will do alot better.I loved the way we used Bush and Mcfadden in that game.Nice job on screens they worked good.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Seymour and Kelly just need to play better
please, please, please get Higgins off of that PR team
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LOL!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
J Hill (J = Jardowski?) don’t know football.
NFL Wr’s should catch 99 out of 100 football’s that hit them in both hands, and pull in the occasional one-hander.
The fact that Bruce GRADKowski lives until the end of a game and produces points is a testament to his survival instincts and natural football acumen.
He rarely has more than 2 seconds to make a decision without opponents in his face…let allow get a throw off.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Anyways guys its not all bad……bigger things going on in life…..dont get down and keep ya heads up
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
The only thing that hasn’t been changed is the General Manager, through this 30-86 mess.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Jardowski
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RDT, Who ???
October 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
later ROG!
i’m out too for a bit
October 4th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
If the Niners keep losing….I wouldn’t be surprised if York goes hard after Harbuagh or Gruden.
If they get a top 2 pick…Harbaugh may consider it because Luck will be available if he declares for draft.
York at least has some sense of what it will take to win in this day and age.
Old looney man Al doesn’t value head coaches anymore in this day and age unless they are his puppet.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
32,ooo fans, wow.
The public is making it as plain as they can to Al Davis.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Were scoring more points than we have in years and they still bag on Bruce.His rating is over 70%.Hes tough and is a leader on offense.Its other guys on the team that keep making Dumb mistakes.In the draft or by trade we need a nose tackle and OL players.Mclain will get better he still learning.We fix those areas we will do alot better.I loved the way we used Bush and Mcfadden in that game.Nice job on screens they worked good.
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“Fans” who bag on Bruce are shortsighted simpletons who don’t what the heck is going on with this team.
Most Raider fans love the Da Bruce because he has BALLS and he doesn’t quit!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Crabkowski is suffering from the same circumstance that the other starter did. Terrible offensive line play. Having said that when you couple that with his bone headed schleprock style of play, it gives this team very little chance to win. The when you add in his physical shortcomings, it really hamstrings the operation.
If on guy gets so much ridicule after 6 quarters in the same circumstance, then why should we not also judge crabs 6 turnovers,( not to mention all of the near turnovers), the same way?
Dont make excuses for frodo he has sucked in every game, and is making just enough plays for us to lose.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
The only thing that hasn’t been changed is the General Manager, through this 30-86 mess.
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Are you even a Raiders fan? Go support the Broncos or Niners. We don’t need you.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Anyways guys its not all bad……bigger things going on in life…..dont get down and keep ya heads up
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Yeah, you right about that. These fk’n clowns probably care less about us (fans) w/ the exception of a few players. I love the Raiders, but it is what it is. I’m happy to be breathing.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Crabkowski is suffering from the same circumstance that the other starter did. Terrible offensive line play. Having said that when you couple that with his bone headed schleprock style of play, it gives this team very little chance to win. The when you add in his physical shortcomings, it really hamstrings the operation.
If on guy gets so much ridicule after 6 quarters in the same circumstance, then why should we not also judge crabs 6 turnovers,( not to mention all of the near turnovers), the same way?
Dont make excuses for frodo he has sucked in every game, and is making just enough plays for us to lose.
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Stop wasting your time and energy on trying to blame Da Bruce for the ill wills of this team!
It’s misguided, warped and just plain wrong!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Some issues with some of you… First of all i want to congratulate DUDE, on the Raiders loss yesterday..(good for you man)..Second i want to address the Priest saying that we stopped running the ball, and other people giving our offense no credit…Well you could say that we stopped running the ball in the second half, after they went up 17..hmmm let me think, we are facing a team that is RUNNING DOWN OUR THROATS with 7 minute plus drives, we are down 17 and you guys are complaining we stopped running the ball…So OK we run the ball and take an extra 4 min to score..NOO!! we threw the ball because we had to..WE WERE DOWN 17!!! We were searching for a big play which we obviously didn’t get, I do agree we should of ran it on the intercepted ball though, i don’t know if you guys have been noticing but we start off doing play action on about every drive..But enough with the offense, if we can have that kind of production every game as a minimum and build on it, we can win sum games, and has for our next 4 games, very winnable, last year we played San Diego tough both games with RUSSEL, H.Jacksons offense ill admit can be suspect at times, he does have to learn to be conservative at the right times instead of giving grads the green light on plays he really shouldn’t, ONE QUESTION..were are the check downs and short throws to DMAC and MILLER when they were blitzing our ass!!! we were doing that when they were dropping back and giving it to us…Sometimes our pass philosophy is backwards, but nonetheless we are better than last year guys. And now i got something to look forward to on Sundays, at least we are better.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
There’s only one man responsible for all the Raider’s ills, Allen Davis.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Need to start Stevie Brown for Huff. Hell, I’d start Stevie Wonder over Huff.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
32,ooo fans, wow.
The public is making it as plain as they can to Al Davis.
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From what I heard, it was actually less than that at the Coliseum as far as the actual attendance.
Al Davis is an idiot.
All he has to do is give Harbaugh or Gruden what they want to be the head coaches to turn this team around and as soon as they are announced as being hired…..SEASON TICKET SALES would skyrocket!
Looney old man Al just doesn’t get it does he….and his evil advisors (Herrera, Taylor and Trask) do NOT want REAL change either, cause they know they would lose their plush jobs if that happened!
Sad…
October 4th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
DKnight007 Says:
Stop wasting your time and energy on trying to blame Da Bruce for the ill wills of this team!
It’s misguided, warped and just plain wrong!
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Dont even try it bra. Crabs is a major reason we lost the last two games, but I never said he is the only reason!
Cable must go at seasons end.
Upgrade o-line d-line in draft.
Play b campbell and all of your young players, since we have no shot at the playoffs.
Crabs is not qualified to start for this team in 2011 ( maybe not even this year). His proclivity for the back breaking turnover, and the ill timed brain cramp is devastating.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
In my honest opinion… Kyle Boller
then again, you guys are way too hard on Gradkowski.. Look what he’s working with..
the guy is playing with the saddest composition of receivers ever.. the closest thing we have to a physical beast is Chaz Schilens, and that guy is made of twigs.
Everyone else is 6′0 / 180lbs.. easily McClain’able
It’s sad though, we put ourselves in a situation where we’re obligated to keep Murphy and DHB in the starting lineup because they’re our future and confidence.
you can tell Grad is frustrated with his supporting cast in the post-game conference.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Atleast gradkowski throws the ball guys, SHUT UP!! CAMPBELL would have been 20-38 203 yds 1td 1int and we woulda lost 31-13….AGAIN!!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
DT Kelly couldnt stop my 5 year old daughter from running the ball.This guy has never done nothing for this team.Cant pass or stop the run.This guy is garbage.They double Seymor and he still makes some plays.Kelly makes him look bad and the rest of the line too.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
murphy and dhb are both 6-2 about 215, not 6ft 180
October 4th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
# Hot Shot Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
DT Kelly couldnt stop my 5 year old daughter from running the ball.This guy has never done nothing for this team.Cant pass or stop the run.This guy is garbage.They double Seymor and he still makes some plays.Kelly makes him look bad and the rest of the line too.
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I second that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kelly = Garbage
October 4th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
The offense under Gradkowski and Hue Jackson is actually ok. Its the doggone defense!
Where are all those defensive experts that lectured me, Rockstar, Bauce, Thec and others about how the defense is bad because the offense doesn’t score etc….
What a load of B.S. You stop the run by having disruptive players up front that abuse O-Lineman and allow linebackers to run free.
We still don’t get it. An almost singular focus on pass rush guys. Tommmy Kelly is a DE. Maybe a UT…and certainly NOT a NT. Can’t win with him there.
See John Henderson…when he plays and he’s not even all that good.
Stop the run, keep the score low, win games.
If the Raiders had drafted that kid from North Carolina in the 4th or 5th instead of workout warrior Bruce Campbell, we’d have more beef up front.
But nope..more shock and awe type athletes that can’t even get activitated for week 1.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
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Yeah, right. Just check out his blog. I have plenty of my own posts on the subject. But I had to tip my cap to the most accurate synopsis of yesterday’s game I’ve seen so far. And you’re the slow one if you can’t see that this team is dealing with the exact same problems of a year ago.
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wrong.
year ago the qb was a fat lazy total bust who didnt give a damn, who just cashed his check, and laughed at the notion he even needed to improve, much less be adequate.
not sure who’s slower, you or priesttj.
not sure it matters
October 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
@ SammyTheBull
werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
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You got the wrong guy. Jamarcus is not here and is struggling with a drug addiction. I hope he can get his personal life in order.
My post also has nothing to do with jason campbell. I am simply stating the facts. Gradkowski through his career turns the ball over a lot. Fumbles, interceptions, and sacks will kill an offense. Especially when you have no offensive line to speak of, and young playmakers still finding their way. This is not a team that can hide gradkowski’s weakness, or survive his mistakes.
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my post was directed at debo
October 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
yeah, i think henderson is literally the only guy on that d-line who is built to stop the run, every one else are pass rushers, davis doesnt get that part of football..
October 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Branch is another player that is garbage in motion on the field.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
By the way…DHB is a liability on the field. Start Johnnie Lee Higgins in his place immediately.
Higgins had 2 receptions for 38 yds off the bench. DHB goes entire games with nothing.
You are playing 10 vs. 11 with him out there. At least JLH will get you 3 or 4 a game. That’s all we need…
They are single covering DHB and taking his 4.2 40 right out of the game
October 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Truth is we dont have a franchise qb yet, grads is a good player, throws sum pics throws td, cant ask much more from him, hes tryin to make things happen…
October 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
If the Raiders had drafted that kid from North Carolina in the 4th or 5th instead of workout warrior Bruce Campbell, we’d have more beef up front.
But nope..more shock and awe type athletes that can’t even get activitated for week 1.
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I have to disagree with this take. Our diline when healthy is serviceable. This is one of the reasons why we beat the rams, and had a chance against the cards. The most glaring weakness is in the o-line. B campbell is not getting the run for two reasons. he was a tackle in college, but cable doesnt think he can play tackle in the nfl now. Campbell is a power blocker cable likes zone guys. This is the only reason I can think of why carlisle is still your starter at guard. Campbell did well on the inside during preseason.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Later peoples!!!!!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
You can never say with a clean heart or a straight face that a qb that had 3 turnover did his part. Unless you mean did his part to ensure a loss.
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depends, right?
fumbles resulting because of a turnstyle on your blind side has to be directed at the person allowing.
balls in a receivers chest, that bounces out, or off their hands on well thrown balls also get put on the qb’s stat.
but who’s fault are they?
not saying that’s what happened on all the plays, because couldn’t watch the game, just saying the NFL needs a change for stat recording.
In MLB errors don’t go against pitcher.
In NFL they do. kind of taints the end result
October 4th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Jacoby Ford should be doing kick offs and punt returns.Hes fast as hell.Miller should get a shot as a wr on the field he seem to do good in preseason and the guy can catch.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
good point bull
October 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
# Hot Shot Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Branch is another player that is garbage in motion on the field.
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Branch is a corner back im not sure why he is playing strong safety in the nfl. MM34 is a strong safety and should get a good look this year especially since we are not going any where this year.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Mistic,
Our d-line has played in 1 game. the rams…other than that ghey’ve gotten rolled up and down the field. They can’t stop the run and that D-Line is turning McClain into a bust in the making.
If you stop the run..the opponent becomes 1-dimensional. By forcing the pass, the Raiders can leverage that MILLION DOLLAR secondary to do its job…my forcing the pass, the opponent loses the time of possession battle.
Bruce Campbell? He’s on the practice squad if not for his draft status. The kid can’t even get acivated, with the offensive line the Raiders have. Not buying it.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I have no problem with the offense. There only problem has been red zone…but at least they get there and are making progress. Hue Jackson is doing a fine job.
If the defense did its damn job…the Raiders are 3-1
October 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
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From what I heard, it was actually less than that at the Coliseum as far as the actual attendance.
Al Davis is an idiot.
All he has to do is give Harbaugh or Gruden what they want to be the head coaches to turn this team around and as soon as they are announced as being hired…..SEASON TICKET SALES would skyrocket!
Looney old man Al just doesn’t get it does he….and his evil advisors (Herrera, Taylor and Trask) do NOT want REAL change either, cause they know they would lose their plush jobs if that happened!
Sad…sad…sad…
October 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Jhill: Travis Goethel was a beast at ASU!
Print That
please spare me. jamarcus was a beast at LSU…need i say more?
October 4th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I have no problem with the offense. There only problem has been red zone…but at least they get there and are making progress. Hue Jackson is doing a fine job.
If the defense did its damn job…the Raiders are 3-1
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With this team…if it’s not one thing…it’s the other that blows the game.
True sign of a lack of a winning attitude.
This team and organization need to be CLEANSED of it’s LOSING mind set and that means hiring a REAL head coach, but that is not going to happen as long as looney Al is still alive.
Next head coach will be Hue.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Team management is freaking joke. They do nothing to change culture other than firing coach and his staff bring in few new players and assume culture will change that way. Listen Amy Task, John Herrera and the rest of you order takers, YES men here’s something you could do:
- Bring in Tony Robbins to talk to the team. He can hopefully get through to these overpaid/under-achievers to rise above their low threshold of pain and push themselves to the next level to become mediocre.
I’m serious Tony is a proven world class motivator. Have Rolando McLain walk over fire. Have Richard Seymore do the same.
http://www.tonyrobbins.com/
October 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Defense STILL not being able to stop or contain the run is UNACCEPTABLE and PATHETIC!
October 4th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Its a couple of players on D that make us look bad.kelly Branch.Our Rookies make some mistakes but they are learning.Its those veterans that are messing things up.I think Wimbley should play DE.This guy is fast and has good pass rushing skills.Scott should go back at LB on rushing situations.Shaunesy And wimbley should be our DE and if we get a nose tackle we can rotate Seymour to the edge also.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
we need to play out this year with our current o-line issues..then in the offseason, address o-line and start implementin a 3-4 defense…our dline is built for it. seymour was an all pro dend in the pats 34 system, kelly at NT might be a strectch. but shaugnessy and houston are perfect fits for the other d end.
without a first round pick i think its gonna be hard to fix the qb situation, but grads and campbell can make us competitve if the oline is stronger
October 4th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
we will need one addition at LB with a 34 def too..scott and wimbley on the outside will be fine, mclain in the middler will be fine but howard wont fit in. it would be real nice to upgrade lbs enough that scott doesnt have to play except for passing downs..
October 4th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
The d-line problem can be solved easily. Get Haynseworth for a 4th rounder.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
32000 tkts sold, but some estimate att at around 22, 23000.
every once in a while the camera would pan the stands following the ball. huge sections of empty seats.
scroll back, pre-LosAngeles.
Al in his box, on high, surveying jam packed stadium.
fast forward to Al, sitting alone, talking to noone, wondering what happened.
and never taking any of the blame.
He actually feels those 23000 were there to see him in his box. sad sad figure al has become
October 4th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Team management is freaking joke. They do nothing to change culture other than firing coach and his staff bring in few new players and assume culture will change that way. Listen Amy Task, John Herrera and the rest of you order takers, YES men here’s something you could do:
- Bring in Tony Robbins to talk to the team. He can hopefully get through to these overpaid/under-achievers to rise above their low threshold of pain and push themselves to the next level to become mediocre.
I’m serious Tony is a proven world class motivator. Have Rolando McLain walk over fire. Have Richard Seymore do the same.
http://www.tonyrobbins.com/
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This is exactly the problem and that is why most fans are not buying season tickets!
Your idea to bring in Robbins is actually a good idea.
Couldn’t hurt anymore could it? LOL
October 4th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Motivation is the coaches job. Our coaches aren’t doing it.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
SammyTheBull Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
32000 tkts sold, but some estimate att at around 22, 23000.
every once in a while the camera would pan the stands following the ball. huge sections of empty seats.
scroll back, pre-LosAngeles.
Al in his box, on high, surveying jam packed stadium.
fast forward to Al, sitting alone, talking to noone, wondering what happened.
and never taking any of the blame.
He actually feels those 23000 were there to see him in his box. sad sad figure al has become
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Yep…the old man Al is a shell of his former self….he doesn’t truly care about winning anymore either.
If he did….he would give REAL head coaches what they want to turn the team around.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
DKnight, what does he care about? Apparently he doesn’t care about making money either.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
The defense can’t stop the run and they can’t create turnovers…..not good!
Oh and the special teams isn’t so special!
Without the defense being able to step it up in a game in game out basis….this team has no chance at winning games consistently.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
it depends which hayesworth you get..we already have enough ppl with more leverage than our head coach. adding players that think they are bigger than the team can be tough…although still probably worth a 4th rd flyer. if we can even pay him
October 4th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
The worst thing I saw yesterday was on one Texans running play.
Wimbley kept trying to go to one-side, and McClain get sending him the other side. Wimbley even looked at him, like WTF I need to go over there, but McClain was admanant about it.
Snap….. ball goes right where Wimbley wanted to go, easy 12 yard gain.
*Sigh*
October 4th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Why can’t this defense every get consistent pressure UP THE FREAKIN MIDDLE and get in the QB’s face to disrupt his timing??
October 4th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Got to go guys. I’m actually going to the Raider Image with my son. He want’s to get a Heyward-Bey jersey.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Props to Bruce Campbell and his two tackles yesterday (according to Gus Johnson).
Only in the twilight zone of the Raiders, can a QB throw his best pass all day, and that ends up an INT to seal the loss.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Oh my aching colon. Man was I f’kd up yesterday. Always a good time partying at the Coli with 26K of your closest friends.
Too bad the D didn’t do much yesterday. Not much at all.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
DKnight, what does he care about? Apparently he doesn’t care about making money either.
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Exactly….he is lost looney old man who listens to his evil yes men and women advisors (Herrera, Trask, Taylor) cause they want to keep their high paying jobs, cause they know they won’t get another job like it.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Got to go guys. I’m actually going to the Raider Image with my son. He want’s to get a Heyward-Bey jersey.
Herrera? Is that you?
October 4th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
JFB,
Seriously, if they bench DHB and went wth JLH, Bruce would get 4 or 5 more receptions a game.
Bruce did ok…held the ball longer than usual..but played well enough to win. Him and zach miller were money.
get DHB out and make him the slot guy…he is a liability on the field right now who is only playing because of his contract.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
JLofty Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Oh my aching colon. Man was I f’kd up yesterday. Always a good time partying at the Coli with 26K of your closest friends.
Too bad the D didn’t do much yesterday. Not much at all.
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It used to be fun doing that….until the actual game starts and then it becomes a buzz kill more often than not and then causes a bad hangover!
Not fun….
October 4th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
By the way, there are plenty of great deals to be had at the Raider Image:
http://www.raiderimage.com/category-jerseys-authentic.html
Check out the Aaron Brooks, Lamont Jordan, Ronald Curry, and JaMarcus Russel jerseys for only $99.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Mistic,
Our d-line has played in 1 game. the rams…other than that ghey’ve gotten rolled up and down the field. They can’t stop the run and that D-Line is turning McClain into a bust in the making.
If you stop the run..the opponent becomes 1-dimensional. By forcing the pass, the Raiders can leverage that MILLION DOLLAR secondary to do its job…my forcing the pass, the opponent loses the time of possession battle.
Bruce Campbell? He’s on the practice squad if not for his draft status. The kid can’t even get acivated, with the offensive line the Raiders have. Not buying it.
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Our d-tackles are serviceable, maybe middle of the road when we are healthy. we need to draft a run stuffer in the mold of a young hendu.
Campbell not being active is a problem, I think cable is making a mistake not having him run. he is a very good power blocker, and couldnt do any worse than walker at tackle or car lisle at guard.
Failure to develop the o line including our o-line draftees is a major factor and will cost cable his job.
The fact the offense is moving and scoring points bodes well for jackson. That fact that our young skill positions are playing better overall this year also bodes well for jackson.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
Only in the twilight zone of the Raiders, can a QB throw his best pass all day, and that ends up an INT to seal the loss,. october 4th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
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the pass to dhb the play before was nice too..the timing was little early, but that is on both of them. but still dhb has to want the ball and be ready to make a play..
October 4th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
SnB you sir watch the same games as I……without a guy to effectively hold the interior of the line the run D has no chance to win. We literally watching the middle getting dominated play upon play
October 4th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I wish people could also see the Texans fullback smashing holes open. Would be nice to have that. Marcel Reece is not a fullback. Manase Tonga on your PS serves nothing for you. Our backs will not get the max value out of a game.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
SammyTheBull Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
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Yeah, right. Just check out his blog. I have plenty of my own posts on the subject. But I had to tip my cap to the most accurate synopsis of yesterday’s game I’ve seen so far. And you’re the slow one if you can’t see that this team is dealing with the exact same problems of a year ago.
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wrong.
year ago the qb was a fat lazy total bust who didnt give a damn, who just cashed his check, and laughed at the notion he even needed to improve, much less be adequate.
not sure who’s slower, you or priesttj.
not sure it matters
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OK genius. If we aren’t dealing with the same problems as last year, why do we have the same record?
October 4th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
SammyTheBull Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
October 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
werent you that sad sack that was still crying the blues, the other day, over jamarcus?
rushing to prop any sorry take about jamarcus, while jumping on anyones post that was negative about Grad?
in other words, others think and post, and you jump on?
makes u look weak, and slow
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Yeah, right. Just check out his blog. I have plenty of my own posts on the subject. But I had to tip my cap to the most accurate synopsis of yesterday’s game I’ve seen so far. And you’re the slow one if you can’t see that this team is dealing with the exact same problems of a year ago.
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wrong.
year ago the qb was a fat lazy total bust who didnt give a damn, who just cashed his check, and laughed at the notion he even needed to improve, much less be adequate.
not sure who’s slower, you or priesttj.
not sure it matters
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OK genius. If we aren’t dealing with the same problems as last year, why do we have the same record?
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Because Al Davis sucks, Cable sucks, and so does the defensive scheme overall.
The O-Line sucks also…and WR corp is still young and learning.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Murphy….brother if you hurt then sit……playing ineffective vs a bad pass D is unacceptable…… higgins should have had your reps. he for sure catches that fourth down play!
October 5th, 2010 at 9:10 am
aint no excuse for whats going on. it’s been 7-8yrs since a winning record. theres good talent on the team but no disclipine! u have to be able to stop da run in dis leauge. u have to block n dis leauge, as a fan its just sad and hurtful dat it aint came together yet!! your being paid good money to play a game youve played all your life, just play football and get it together>
October 5th, 2010 at 9:13 am
a real number! wr dont drop that many passes
October 5th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Just whupped is sooooooooo right. Better yet, the Raiders were whupped ghetto – style. Sorry to say but this coming Sunday against the Superbowl Chargers will be yet another exercise in futility as in 14 STRAIGHT LOSSES to the Supers! To spare the grief I believe the Raiders should just call the NFL League Office and request a cancellation of the upcoming debacle. Why subject the team to additional humiliation and embarrassment. To play this Sunday would a disgrace to the Old School Raider greats who used to represent the true Raider Image. This version is so so sad.