Raiders add Davis, cut Alford
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 5th, 2010 at 3:32 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Concerned about their depth at linebacker, the Raiders signed Bruce Davis and released defensive lineman Jay Alford, beat writer Steve Corkran has confirmed.
The Raiders also waived cornerback Joey Thomas from injured reserve.
While it remains to be seen if Davis can be brought up to speed by Sunday when the Raiders face the Chargers, they came out of a 31-24 loss to Houston with two weak side linebackers, Quentin Groves and Thomas Howard, who weren’t able to finish the game. Groves had a hamstring pull, Howard a knee injury.
Ricky Brown, primarily a strong side and middle linebacker, was inactive because of a hamstring pull. Another linebacker, rookie Travis Goethel, has been out since the start of the season with a lower back injury.
If Davis is not an option against the Chargers and Groves and Howard are both out, the Raiders can either move Trevor Scott back to weak side linebacker, where he finished the 2009 season and played through training camp, or play alignments which utilize safety Mike Mitchell as a hybrid safety/linebacker. Mitchell subbed for Howard in the Raiders’ dime package Sunday.
Davis (6-foot-3, 252 pounds) was signed off the practice squad of the 49ers. He was a third-round draft pick, No. 88 overall, by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2008. He played five games for the Steelers, was released at the end of the 2009 training camp, and spent October of 2009 through the remainder of the season on the practice squad of the New England Patriots.
Signed following the season and later waived, Davis was claimed by Denver but waived.
Davis is the son of former Raiders tackle Bruce Davis, who also attended UCLA and played with the Raiders from 1979-87.
Alford was signed by the Raiders Sept. 8.
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October 5th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Your take is pure speculation, mine is based on what actually has happened…fact!
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So is mine. Campbell sucked. Gradkowski has played far better. That’s why he’s starting. Fact.
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You are still trying your best to mkae this about jc.
Why, is it because you refuse to acknowledge that 6 turn overs in 2 1/2 games from your boy scabkowski is pathetic? Just like your takes.
Im looking at scabs on the field body of work in 2010, so far he sucks, just like i said he would. Bottom line. You want to talk about someone else to avoid having to suck on your misinformed ridiculous opinion, that scabs was going to be a good qb! Dont run from it, own it like a man.
October 5th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
man, i always thought daivs was going to be good, but he’s traveled more than a left handed pitcher and he’s only in his third year. can all those other teams be wrong?
October 5th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Wake me when it says “Raiders cut Al Davis.”
October 5th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
You are still trying your best to mkae this about jc.
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It was about JC. He is demoted.
Now it’s about Grads.
If He stinks it up, mabey they trot out Boller.
Who knows.
October 5th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Gardowski did a much better job this week of not trying to make DHB a star. Probably still went his way a too many times as he ended up holding the ball and getting sacked.
Most of his passing yards were on passes to the RB and the TE. If we had decent options at WR he’d look a lot better.
But it is his decision to throw the ball to DHB, so he has to take responsibility for the outcome. Dropped passes, sacks, fumbles, ints, failed 3rd down conversions and all.
October 5th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
A former Steeler LB ????
He should be starting!
October 5th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I really hope at seasons’ end Al swallows his useless pride and extends the olive branch to either Gruden or Parcells, we need wholesale changes that start in the front office and real accountability, not the lip service of guys needing to play with more fire…..attention Cable: they don’t have to be accountable when they know they’ll outlast you! attention Montgemery S Burns:please draft Interior run plugger, draft or acquire upper echelon LT and center, we’ll worry about qb and sub 4.3 db’s wr’s once we get those areas figured out, thank you
October 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
While defensive tackle Richard Seymour suggested making some lineup changes after Sunday’s 31-24 loss, Raiders coach Tom Cable only questioned his team’s “desire.” The defensive personnel who gave up 249 rushing yards to Houston, at an astounding 6.9 yards-per-carry rate, aren’t facing any benchings.
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LOL! Ummm…isn’t lack of desire reason enough to bench players? Bench Huff!
October 5th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
JLH should be starting and getting far more targets than DHB, esp if DHB is injuried. Start JLH and JFORD…
October 5th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Seymour knows far better trhan cable…
October 5th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Hes not a 4-3 LB, hes a 3-4 pass rushing linebacker just like all of our current ones.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2008/draft/players/19652.html
not trying to be negative, just letting you know J Hill
October 5th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
@ post 8
so the only guy that’s a proven winner can’t even get the ear or attention of Barney Rubble, geez I just don’t get the rationale of the HC I swear
October 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
only way to get rid of Al Davis is by removing the head or destroying the brain
October 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
# crister Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
man, i always thought daivs was going to be good, but he’s traveled more than a left handed pitcher and he’s only in his third year. can all those other teams be wrong?
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Certainly interesting…. the positive side is being on the roster playing for Pitt and NE.
I remember us doing that with Quentin Moses that we drafted in the 3rd rd and he didnt make our 07 team.
Ah what a draft…
1. JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
2. Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
3a. Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
3b. Mario Henderson, OL, Florida State
3c. Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UT
October 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
6 turn overs in 2 1/2 games from your boy scabkowski is pathetic…
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Not for this team, it isn’t. Judging by the way Campbell played against Tennessee, I can only imagine how many turnovers he would have by now. Or what his completion percentage would be. Or sacks. Yikes. With Gradkowski, we’re much better. He’s the best QB available to us. And if he can get this team out of the cellar and into the 7-9 win range, he should be declared our starter, for the long haul.
October 5th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Huff attempting to play patty cake with Ward at the 23 yard line should be reason enough to bench him, he’s not going to hit anyone, not even a rb STUMBLING into him, it’s like Huff just made sure he regained his balance and felt he did his job… that one still bothers me, wtf was that?
October 5th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What’s the rule when it comes to snatching players off another team’s practice squad? Aren’t you required to keep them on the 53-man? For how long? Anyone? Anyone?
October 5th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Stubblebuzz…..for the year, so we have Sam Williams JR for the rest of the season
October 5th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Dakota Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
AIG,
Garbage has only played two full games…the second and third games of the season correct?
Okay, let us compare Garbagekowski’s two games to the same two games for Gannon in 2002.
Garbage: 41 for 73, 533 yards, 56% Comp %, 3tds 3ints
Gannon: 52 for 77, 738 yards, 67.5% Comp%, 7 tds 0 Ints
oh and Gannon was 2-0…Garbage is 0-2
If you really think that Garbagekowski could have done as well or better than Gannon back in 2002, I truly think you need to see a doctor.
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Dakota,
Dont twist my words. I never said Grad=Gannon. All I said was why is Grad putting our O up to the same level of production as Gannon’s team when we all know Grad’s supporting cast is the worst in league. You can’t answer this one so you’re trying to twist the argument. Give it up.
On Andre Johnson,you’re trying to twist the argument again. You said that we were lucky Houston didnt have their best offensive weapon Andre Johnson. I debunked it by showing you that Johnson’s production this year has not been great and he has not been their best weapon this year. As a matter of fact, his production is on par with Murphy through three games. You were too chickenshcytt to post the stats. Here it is for you.
Johnson had 3 more catches and 23 more yds than Murphy through 3 games. I doubt those are world beater numbers. Houson’s best offense is their zone running game regardless of Foster or Slaton or Ward. Did you forget that their system is the same system that churned out 1k runners each year in Denver?
Dont twist facts when you’re cornered. Laugh at Bruce all you want. All I know is his offense is putting up 24 points per game and on par with 2002’s team production in yds when you know darn well 2002 was one of the best supporting cast ever in our history.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
If you take from another teams practice squad, that player gets put on the 53 man roster.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
AIG, people who don’t think Gradkowski should be our starter right now are demented. Don’t waste your time trying to change their view. Just mock them, the same way you’d mock a 30 year old fat guy riding a kid’s BMX. I can’t picture a Raider fan who doesn’t want Gradkowski to start being much smarter than that, anyway. Sometimes the only way you can help people is by mocking them, AIG. So that’s what I do to these interesting folks who don’t think Gradkowski should be our QB right now, considering what’s available.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
MR,
Gosh the guy is running for his life and still produces 24 points per game. Even the haters acknowledge our OLine as the worst in the league. God forbid we ever put together a decent line and give this guy receivers that can catch the ball.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Everyone, there is more to the game than just stats. Gradkowski has almost always made throws to put us in position to win when he has had a chance. The perfect pass to Murphy that was deflected and intercepted in Houston, and the one to Heyward Bey that was deflected and intercepted in KC last year.
As of right now, and probably for the long haul, he gives us a better chance to win than Campbell does. I believe Houston is a better team than Tenn and they murdered while Gradkowski gave us a nail biting game until the end.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
There are teams in this league that would start Gradkowski this very moment if they had him. I honestly don’t think anyone would have even picked Campbell up if we didn’t trade for him. He would have just been cut. Out of the league.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Dakota Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
AIG,
Garbage has only played two full games…the second and third games of the season correct?
Okay, let us compare Garbagekowski’s two games to the same two games for Gannon in 2002.
Garbage: 41 for 73, 533 yards, 56% Comp %, 3tds 3ints
Gannon: 52 for 77, 738 yards, 67.5% Comp%, 7 tds 0 Ints
oh and Gannon was 2-0…Garbage is 0-2
If you really think that Garbagekowski could have done as well or better than Gannon back in 2002, I truly think you need to see a doctor.
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Dakota but you conveniently forget mention that Gannon had Pro Bowlers on his offensive line in Barrett Robbins and Lincoln Kennedy.
He had Hall of Famer Wide Receivers who could actually run routes and CATCH the ball in Tim Brown and Jerry Rice.
You can’t possibly in your right mind claim that if Gannon had played behind our current offensive line scrubs(Mario Henderson, Cooper Carlisle, Langston Walker,Samson Satele, and inconsistent Wide Receivers, that he would have had the success that he did.
Come on man. Stop skewing the facts with meaningless stats that don’t paint a true picture. The Raiders of 2002 as a TEAM were LIGHT YEARS ahead of the team that we have today.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
*forget to mention.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Gradkowski maximizes his ability.
Campbell and Boller do not.
Gradkowski is better than these 2 with our current O line.
Give Campbell or Boller a dominant O Line AND some quality WR’s and mabey it’s different.
For now, Grads is clearly the best option.
The proof is the point produced.
If our defense had played half way decent, this record could be reversed.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Give Gradkowski…all Pro offensive linemen and some future Hall of Fame Wide Receivers, and then see if he can win ball games before you attempt to compare his success to the success that Gannon had.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Would you please shut the hell up!We have the best Qb on the job that we have on our roster.Leave it at that and quit bagging on the guy.Case closed move on idiots.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Give Gradkowski…all Pro offensive linemen and some future Hall of Fame Wide Receivers, and then see if he can win ball games before you attempt to compare his success to the success that Gannon had.
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Na. A truely great QB can carry an entire team on his shoulders.
Sarcasm intended.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
yeah! eff yeah!!!! this totally means we will win the division… LOL
if in doubt, yup this was a itsibitsi piece of sarcasm…
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Gradkowski is succeeding because he is a garbage QB. He is a garbage QB playing with the other garbage that is our o-line and wrs. If he was playing with good players, in big games, he would choke under the pressure and throw 4 ints.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Gradkowski is succeeding because he is a garbage QB. He is a garbage QB playing with the other garbage that is our o-line and wrs. If he was playing with good players, in big games, he would choke under the pressure and throw 4 ints.
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And you’re basing this ridiculous unfounded statement on what facts?
October 5th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
yeah! eff yeah!!!! this totally means we will win the division… LOL
if in doubt, yup this was a itsibitsi piece of sarcasm
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LMN, long time. How are you?
WTF are you talking about?
Been out on the town?
October 5th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
jerrymac: the only way management is changing is if Al Davis looks in the mirror, determines he really ought to hand it over to someone else, and then acts on it. Do you see that happening? I don’t.
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So, that means as a sportswriter you shouldn’t say anything, you little chickens..t……
October 5th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
If the Raiders do not go at least 2-2 in the next four games, it’s time to start thinking about offloading assets while they still have value. If we have a reasonable chance at going 7-9, then in my mind, it’s worth keeping everyone here to try and get it. 7-9 is good progress here in Raiderland and something positive. However, if we don’t have that chance, it’s time to get some future draft picks.
1) I said this two years ago and I’ll say it again. Trade Nnamdi while he is still considered one of the best. Something like this would be reasonable:
Nnamdi to the Ravens for 2 1st rounders. The Ravens are weak at CB at I bet they would do this trade.
2) Trade Seymour to the Jets for a 3rd rounder and Kyle Wilson.
Let’s face it, to go along with all of the other blunders, this trade for Seymour is one of the all-time worst trades made by a GM. We need to get something back for him while we can. I think the Jets would bite since their D-line is fairly depleted. Plus, Seymour is great in the 3-4.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
So we are thin at DLine but we cut Alford?
Who isn’t hurt!?
Instead of one of the really hurt guys? That list is LONG.
Who makes roster decisions at 1220 Harbor Bay?
Do we actually have a personnel department?
October 5th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
yeah! eff yeah!!!! this totally means we will win the division… LOL
if in doubt, yup this was a itsibitsi piece of sarcasm
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LMN, long time. How are you?
WTF are you talking about?
Been out on the town?
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Nah im heading home soon, from last workday this week… efff yeah!…
and I was merely joking about the news, it wont matter one pubichair, this team is effed by another davis…
October 5th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Grads didn’t lose this game. The defense lost it.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Do we actually have a personnel department?
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The coaches are making these decisions.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
texguy Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Grads didn’t lose this game. The defense lost it.
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Yep.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Owski is the best thing we have for a qb. I like the guy like his fire. All the owski haters just don’t understand the game I guess. Cambell with this oline would have atleast six more turnovers. Just common since.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
So, that means as a sportswriter you shouldn’t say anything, you little chickens..t……
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If a columnist writes an editorial about AL and his misadventures, and goes on record as saying in “His opinion” it would be best for AL to step aside, they have said IT.
Jerry is not writing editorials, but if you want to read between the lines, I’d say he understands that at a minimum, AL needs some help.
Hell, what 80 year old person doesn’t.
Bay Area reporters aren’t chicken.
They just aren’t providing you with the copy/paste material you desire.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
[...] Alford released by Oakland The News Jay Alford has been released by the Raiders, according to the Oakland Tribune. [...]
October 5th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Raiders should have stuck with their training camp front seven, with Mr. Scott as an OLB & Mr. Shaunessey at DE.
This was a much stonger alignment against the run anyway.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Take jc out of the discussion, and just look at scabkowki’s performance. How can anyone that is on this board justify 6 turn overs in 2 1/2 games.
Jason Campbell is not the issue. Im only trying to get thos e of you who said scabkowski is a good qb to honestly look at what he has done this year.
We are 0-2 in games he started. One of the losses was to the lowly cards! 6 turn overs vs. 4td. In any other city, or any other qb would be getting killed for these two items alone!
Scabkowski stinks and if you dont think so lets, revisit it after the next game. Im sure he will suck vs the chargers as well.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Gradkowski is succeeding because he is a garbage QB. He is a garbage QB playing with the other garbage that is our o-line and wrs. If he was playing with good players, in big games, he would choke under the pressure and throw 4 ints.
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And your a garbage fan so shut up and move on already.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Raiders should have stuck with their training camp front seven, with Mr. Scott as an OLB & Mr. Shaunessey at DE.
This was a much stonger alignment against the run anyway.
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My guess is they thought Scott left them vulnerable in pass defense.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Take jc out of the discussion, and just look at scabkowki’s performance. How can anyone that is on this board justify 6 turn overs in 2 1/2 games.
Jason Campbell is not the issue. Im only trying to get thos e of you who said scabkowski is a good qb to honestly look at what he has done this year.
We are 0-2 in games he started. One of the losses was to the lowly cards! 6 turn overs vs. 4td. In any other city, or any other qb would be getting killed for these two items alone!
Scabkowski stinks and if you dont think so lets, revisit it after the next game. Im sure he will suck vs the chargers as well.
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Talk about stuck on someone.Your an idiot and its a proven fact so shut up already.Were tired of seeing your retarded posts.
October 5th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
No, Al doesn’t need help, he needs to GO!!!!!!
October 5th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Gradkowski is succeeding because he is a garbage QB. He is a garbage QB playing with the other garbage that is our o-line and wrs. If he was playing with good players, in big games, he would choke under the pressure and throw 4 ints.
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The above paragraph has to be the dumbest paragraph I have seen in weeks. It doesnt even make sense. If anything Grad has proven as a Raider is more clutch than I have ever seen. KC, Cinci, Pitt last year. Rams, Arizona, and Houston this year. Every time he has to make a throw on a do or die play he makes it happen. Have you even watched any game the last 2 years?
October 5th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
23 pts vs cards with no special teams or defensive td’s =Jano DHB’s big drop and Bush inability to get into the endzone lost the game. 24 pts vs Texans with no special teams or defensive td’s = d and Murphy’s big drop lost the game
October 5th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Al Davis
Giveth us Free!
October 5th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
The Coaches & Organization need freedom from all the old archaic shackles of Al Davis.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
repost
Everyone, there is more to the game than just stats. Gradkowski has almost always made throws to put us in position to win when he has had a chance. The perfect pass to Murphy that was deflected and intercepted in Houston, and the one to Heyward Bey that was deflected and intercepted in KC last year.
As of right now, and probably for the long haul, he gives us a better chance to win than Campbell does. I believe Houston is a better team than Tenn and they murdered while Gradkowski gave us a nail biting game until the end.
We may have had a chance in overtime vs texans, this is for those complaining about Gradkowski’s stats. He is making the throws when he needs to make them.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
No, Al doesn’t need help, he needs to GO!!!!!!
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Kell,
Just for the sake of conjecture.
Then what.
Who’s in charge?
Do they have any Football “bones”
If the new management sucks for 7 Years, will that be AL’s fault too?
Just curious.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Hot Shot Says
Talk about stuck on someone.Your an idiot and its a proven fact so shut up already.Were tired of seeing your retarded posts.
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Typical reaction…like most scakowski fans when hit wth cold hard facts and numbers they retreat and go to name calling. Anything from honestly answering weather or not 6 turn overs in such a short span is acceptable. Or better yet 3 turn overs ( nearly 5) is acceptable.
You cats are painting yourselfs into a corner. Time is the greatest teacher.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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Retarded….that is juvenile bra, arent you late for freeze tag?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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I’ve been watching the Raiders since before you were probably born. I know a good QB when I see it, and Garbagekowski is not it. We need a guy who can stretch the field like Lamonica and Schroeder.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What do you ole boys think of that privatized Fire Dept down there in Obion County Tennessee?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Mistic,
6 turn overs, ya, 6 turnovers, 6 turnovers, 6 turnovers.
Obsess much?
Gradkowski is putting points on the board.
Get it…savant
October 5th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Hot Shot Says
Talk about stuck on someone.Your an idiot and its a proven fact so shut up already.Were tired of seeing your retarded posts.
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Typical reaction…like most scakowski fans when hit wth cold hard facts and numbers they retreat and go to name calling. Anything from honestly answering weather or not 6 turn overs in such a short span is acceptable. Or better yet 3 turn overs ( nearly 5) is acceptable.
You cats are painting yourselfs into a corner. Time is the greatest teacher================================================
no time to put it to rest you repeat yourself and say the same lame a## crap day in day out.Were tired of seeing it.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
How would I go about starting a fan club?
Make a internet web site?
What else?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What do you ole boys think of that privatized Fire Dept down there in Obion County Tennessee
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The better question is what do the citizens of the county think about it.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Vikings are trying to work out a trade with N.E. for Randy Moss. Deal hinges on contract extension from Vikings to Moss….Per, Jay Glazer….
October 5th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What do you ole boys think of that privatized Fire Dept down there in Obion County Tennessee?
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That is crazy. Just another sign that U.S. is becoming a third world country. Those redneck fire fighters probably thinkt Gradkowski is a good QB too.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
RaiderLen
6 winning seasons in 21 years
11 loss seasons
7 consecutive seasons (going on
Are you really afraid of the future?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Vikings are trying to work out a trade with N.E. for Randy Moss. Deal hinges on contract extension from Vikings to Moss….Per, Jay Glazer….
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Vikings are “all in”.
Makes sense.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
The better question is what do the citizens of the county think about it.
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I asked you boys.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
We should trade Nnamdi to the Vikings for 7 draft picks, including 2 first rounders.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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I’ve been watching the Raiders since before you were probably born. I know a good QB when I see it, and Garbagekowski is not it. We need a guy who can stretch the field like Lamonica and Schroeder.
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I doubt that son.You guys don,t get it do you.Were not saying Bruce is like the greatest qb in the nfl or anything.Were saying hes the best qb we have on our roster to get points on the board so we have to stand behind that and hes doing a decent job compared to what we have had in years since Gannon.Get it got it good.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Are you really afraid of the future?
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Kell,
No Sir.
I was taught a long time ago however that change just for the sake of change, without a clear understanding of the outcome, is not always productive.
I have an open mind.
I’m willing to imagine the possibilities.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I was taught a long time ago however that change just for the sake of change, without a clear understanding of the outcome, is not always productive.
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Doing the same over and over again, expecting different results is Insanity!
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
The better question is what do the citizens of the county think about it.
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I asked you boys.
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Don’t know anything about it.
Local Government is better government.
If the county is violating LAW, then it needs to be addressed.
If not, then a non story.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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Retarded….that is juvenile bra, arent you late for freeze tag?
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Ok how is your a dumb a##.That fit you better.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Doing the same over and over again, expecting different results is Insanity!
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Great quote…Albert Einstein I believe.
I agree.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
When the Raiders watch film and see Huff’s horrible angles to the ball, I suspect there’s just silence in the room.
McClain is embarrassed, and should be. Who’d want to be part of this? They load up in the draft and FA to stop the run, but can’t stop the run. The head coach, hired as an offensive line coach has one of the worst offensive lines in the game. The defensive backfield has the top corner in the game, along with three mediocre to poor DB’s.
Yeah, maybe the Raiders should try some lineup changes. But to what?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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I’ve been watching the Raiders since before you were probably born. I know a good QB when I see it, and Garbagekowski is not it. We need a guy who can stretch the field like Lamonica and Schroeder.
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I doubt that son.You guys don,t get it do you.Were not saying Bruce is like the greatest qb in the nfl or anything.Were saying hes the best qb we have on our roster to get points on the board so we have to stand behind that and hes doing a decent job compared to what we have had in years since Gannon.Get it got it good.
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Just stop trying to sell the idea that grads is a good qb. He is below average on his best days. Hold grads accountable the way everyone likes to point at jc, or al davis, or dhb ……etc
October 5th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
The better question is what do the citizens of the county think about it.
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I asked you boys.
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Don’t know anything about it.
Local Government is better government.
If the county is violating LAW, then it needs to be addressed.
If not, then a non story.
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I don’t see how letting someone’s house burn down is any different than accessory to murder.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
We now watch our neighbors home burn down, in America???
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/05/2279115/fire-fighters-condemn-south-fultons.html
October 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
If the county is violating LAW, then it needs to be addressed.
If not, then a non story.
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Watching a neighbors house burn down is a non-story?????? Only in TeaBag country
October 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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Retarded….that is juvenile bra, arent you late for freeze tag?
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Ok how is your a dumb a##.That fit you better.
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Really… such a keyboard gangsta. You cant defend your boys horrible play. Just think if he wouldnt have loused it up we may have actually beaten the texans in an upset. 3 turn overs meant we had to play from behind. Its ok come back next week when there is even more evidence that says grads is not very good.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
So, I recently became friends with Travis Goethel on facebook. His recent post alluded to someone pissing in his bead. Someone commented: “Teach you for having Mr. Davis over for the night.”
October 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I don’t see how letting someone’s house burn down is any different than accessory to murder.
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As I said, I don’t know anything about it. If the law was broken, fix it.
Letting a House burn and it can be prevented?
Sounds like a problen to me.
It still has to be worked out within the community…eventually.
Morality can not be legislated.
Acountablilty can.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Watching a neighbors house burn down is a non-story?????? Only in TeaBag country
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Kell,
I’ve stated 3 time now.
I don’t know anything about it.
I’m not informed as to the details.
I know right from wrong.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# Raider Ray Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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I’ve been watching the Raiders since before you were probably born. I know a good QB when I see it, and Garbagekowski is not it. We need a guy who can stretch the field like Lamonica and Schroeder.
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I doubt that son.You guys don,t get it do you.Were not saying Bruce is like the greatest qb in the nfl or anything.Were saying hes the best qb we have on our roster to get points on the board so we have to stand behind that and hes doing a decent job compared to what we have had in years since Gannon.Get it got it good.
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Just stop trying to sell the idea that grads is a good qb. He is below average on his best days. Hold grads accountable the way everyone likes to point at jc, or al davis, or dhb ……etc
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When Campbell can actually move the ball and play like he cares and can lead this team ill give him credit.But he plays with no emotions and no love for the game and it shows in his play.We have scored points with Bruce and we have not been able to do that in several years so i think hes doing a decent job.With that line Campbell would never get the ball off hes a drop back passer he dont know how to move with the pocket.He would get murdered back there.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Should the Raiders consider signing Julius Jones, Seahawks just cut him. Personally I would rather they get Mr. Rankin, we cannot afford to have our only backup RB returning KOs along side Mr. Ford.
I think we will see Mr. Nick Miller returning kicks this weekend.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
What the heck is there to know RaiderLen
Fire Dept watched a mans house burn to the ground for lack of a $75 dollar fee.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Hot Shot Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Mistic1 and raider ray should be cut as Fans.They are retarded and obviously dont know nada about the team.
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Retarded….that is juvenile bra, arent you late for freeze tag?
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Ok how is your a dumb a##.That fit you better.
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Really… such a keyboard gangsta. You cant defend your boys horrible play. Just think if he wouldnt have loused it up we may have actually beaten the texans in an upset. 3 turn overs meant we had to play from behind. Its ok come back next week when there is even more evidence that says grads is not very good.
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One thing about me and ill tell you son im no keyboard gangsta ill say it to your face or anyone elses and thats the bottom line.Dont make it personal you dont want to go there with me.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
One of the most erroneous stats in the NFL is interceptions.QBs get blamed when an Olineman lets his man thru and he hits the QB as he is letting go of the ball thus causing an errant pass.The QB gets the blame when he hits the WR on the money and the WR drops or tips the pass into the air and it is int.It would be interesting to see how many ints are actually the total fault of QBs.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
What the heck is there to know RaiderLen
Fire Dept watched a mans house burn to the ground for lack of a $75 dollar fee.
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Thanks for some facts.
Clearly wrong on the part of the fire department.
Idiots.
County employees?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I don’t see how letting someone’s house burn down is any different than accessory to murder.
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As I said, I don’t know anything about it. If the law was broken, fix it.
Letting a House burn and it can be prevented?
Sounds like a problen to me.
It still has to be worked out within the community…eventually.
Morality can not be legislated.
Acountablilty can.
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Morality can not be legislated? That is a dumber statement than anything Raider Ray has said. So if I saw you on the street and decided I did not like you, and then proceeded to hit you in the head with a baseball bat, that would be ok if the community was alright with it? Is that what you are saying?
October 5th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Dont make it personal you dont want to go there with me.
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Hot Shot, that sure sounds like a keyboard gangsta to me.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I really hope at seasons’ end Al swallows his useless pride and extends the olive branch to either Gruden or Parcells, we need wholesale changes that start in the front office and real accountability, not the lip service of guys needing to play with more fire…..attention Cable: they don’t have to be accountable when they know they’ll outlast you! attention Montgemery S Burns:please draft Interior run plugger, draft or acquire upper echelon LT and center, we’ll worry about qb and sub 4.3 db’s wr’s once we get those areas figured out, thank you.
Thank you, raiderlaker1980.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
[...] The roster moves were first reported by Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. [...]
October 5th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Moss heading back to Vikings.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
TouchofDown Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Mistic1, I don’t even like Bruce and I wish I could block your post. Please quit man.
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Speak for yourself. With all due respect to Jhill and TJ, Mistic is easily the most knowlegeable poster on this board.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
With all due respect, that is your opinion. I would like to know how to block JT’s post as well.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
I’d be interested to hear what lineup changes Seymour thinks need to be made.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I’d be interested to hear what lineup changes Seymour thinks need to be made.
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He’d clone himself with a good hamstring, and he’d start across the line.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I’d be interested to hear what lineup changes Seymour thinks need to be made.
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He’d clone himself with a good hamstring, and he’d start across the line.
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Works for me!
October 5th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
That dude probably didnt pay the 75 bucks to protect his trailor because thats likely about its worth,…Im real.
October 5th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
As I sit here Im blown away that Kell hasnt yet said those fire fighters let that trailor burn down because Al Davis was involved. Youre slippin dude.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Hot Shot Says
I dont need no key board.Did you see what i said.I would say it to your face.
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Ok….sure you would. I suggest you stick to football opinion and save the wanna be stuff for impressing fifth graders.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
There HAS to be some lineup changes on defense. We can’t just sit here hoping fools will get better.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
My problem is w our lackluster wr’s. All off season, I was begging for a veteran set of hands-ala Patrick Crayton, Tory Holt, Mark Clayton, T.O.-anyone who can come in here & pick up 1st downs & show these young guys what playing wr in the nfl is all about. All everybody was saying is we dont want to take reps away from our young wr corps, the vet will stunt there growth… What growth? Where has that gotten us so far? Would we, as a team really be worse off w/ 1 of those guys on our team???? Anyone? Anyone?????
October 5th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Hot Shot Says
I dont need no key board.Did you see what i said.I would say it to your face.
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Ok….sure you would. I suggest you stick to football opinion and save the wanna be stuff for impressing fifth graders.
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Well don,t run your mouth and call me out then.Cause im never scared.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
J Hill Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
There HAS to be some lineup changes on defense. We can’t just sit here hoping fools will get better.
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Get a f’n clue.
What did I tell you?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, It’s time for 99’s quarterly review and ’state of the Raiders’ post !
We’re through 4 games and the 2010 Raiders have floundered to a 1-3 start.
What’s gone wrong:
Offensive line continues to be horrible. This unit is absolute garbage. Pass protection has been horrendous.
Special teams – Kick off coverage has been atrocious. Punt return game with JLH is non-existent. Lechler not punting up to his capabilities. Janikowski cost Raids a W in Az.
Defense – Physically dominated and woefully unprepared against Hou. An absolute embarrassment. This unit doesn’t hit hard and it doesn’t force any turnovers.
Coaching – Less than stellar so far, to say the least. Delay of game penalty snafu in Az costly, and easily avoidable provided team is well coached.
What’s gone right:
Bruce Gradkowski.
Raiders finally have a good QB !
Always hear the lament ‘the Raids never develop a QB’. Now one is developing before our eyes and some morons here are still griping and whining for a confirmed turd like Jason Campbell to be given the reigns. Unbelievable.
I’m going to go on record again and state that BG is a much better than average NFL QB. He’s not Peyton Manning because he doesn’t have the physical tools. But he has everything else. He’s gritty, he’s got heart, and he’s a winner. This guy has shown an ability to score points without an OL and a green WR corps. He’s consistently shown the ability to make a play when needed. He’s turning dog food into filet mignon and still catching crap from people who refuse to see how much better the Raider offense is with him at the helm. He’s the heart and soul of this team and if he goes down there is absolutely no hope for 2010.
What else has gone right ?
Not much. Darren McFadden has shown flashes of how good he can be if he can stay on the field. DHB has shown limited progress but still has a long, long way to go.
Looking forward:
The start of the 2nd quarter of the season, and the Raids already have one foot on a banana peel and the other through the door of non-contention. It’s hard to imagine this team contending if they lose to SD at home this week. However, a win this week and they’re not done just yet. McClain is going to have to step up and make some sort of impact on an anemic defense. Murphy and DHB have to contribute more. OL will continue to blow, but Grads has shown he can overcome that, if they make a nominal improvement.
A win this week against SD and there’s still hope. Start this quarter strong and take it from there.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
All I want out of the rest of this year is no more wins and no local tv coverage,…thats it, nothing else….theres some suits in Alameda that want the same thing, (ok one of them is a silly looking warm up suit)..we will get our wish. However, snow is starting to fall here in Tahoe,..that means fun times coming early, while some of you continue to follow the daily comings and goings of all things Raiders,..why, I dont know.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Something about Al Davis?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Oakdebo said
“Speak for yourself. With all due respect to Jhill and TJ, Mistic is easily the most knowlegeable poster on this board.”
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Someone is getting desperate for chatpals
October 5th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Kell,
Could you be a bit more specific?
I mean, how does Al Davis factor in to that 73 yd run by Foster?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Im worried about Kell,..a guy his age, using wink icons at the end of his posts,..its just odd. Act your age dude.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
J Hill Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Kell,
Could you be a bit more specific?
I mean, how does Al Davis factor in to that 73 yd run by Foster?
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How about the single-deep safety Raider DC’s must employ, for example. But I know you’re not dumb.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
I feel the same about that dudes trailor as I did about San Bruno,…BFD.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
How about the single-deep safety Raider DC’s must employ, for example.
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But they weren’t in the single deep S coverage on that 73 yd run.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
But they weren’t in the single deep S coverage on that 73 yd run.
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How about the players he hires?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Have we gotten any sundays predictions yet?…heres mine,…shutout,..Raiders will not score,…44-0…Im layin the 6.5 Mont Bleu has it set at, and its my lock of the weekend…not only will it be on my parlay card but I will also take that as a single bet,…the Chargers minus 6.5 is a joke,…really it should be like 16.5
October 5th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Oh, one more thing.
Trade Jason Campbell to the Cards, Bills or any other team desperate and/or dumb enough to give the Raids anything for him.
Jason Campbell is a certified turd.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
How about the players he hires?
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Are you just throwing sshhyytt out there now?
Do you have specific answer for the 73 yd run?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
The Coaches & Organization need freedom from all the old archaic shackles imposed by Al Davis.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
How about the Coaches he hires?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Kell,..you are archaic..act your age you old fool,..Naussbaum thinks you have mental problems by the way.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
If you want the emails I will forward them,..I owe him no loyalty…Jan I do,…but not that guy.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Norco,
Give me your co-cordinates for Sunday in the parking lot.
I’ll tip one or two with You and Brian.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Doofus Boob
You can stalk me all you want, you cannot shut me up.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Raider ray, yeah your right man we dont need a guy who scores points right now, we need like a tall statue who stands still and can throw the ball 65 yds down field with the flick of his wrist!!! Like Lamonica and Schroader, wait a min, how many rings did thoughs guys have????
October 5th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
You can stalk me all you want, you cannot shut me up.
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LOL!
Kell is on a mission!
Free speach baby.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Kell why would I want to shut you up?…youre the only person in here that I get a laugh from…keep up the humor!
October 5th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Have you seen Kell?…looks ike he lives in a rescue mission.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
J.Hill
Al Davis has 6 winning seasons in the last 21 years.
Do you really believe he has nothing to do with the on-field product?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Someone in your office, not a friend of yours by any shot, thinks I should post your cell phone number in here,..would that be ok with you?…I know you were banned for posting personal info, but Jerry likes me, as does Becker,..they both think youre an old weirdo.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
J. Hill
At least 12/32 teams go to the playoffs, every year.
Yet Al Davis has only been there 6 times in the last 21 years. Go figure
October 5th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Do you really believe he has nothing to do with the on-field product?
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I just asked you to be a bit more specific.
Of course Al Davis has something to do with the on field product. He’s the owner, right?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Norco,
Where you be in the lot on Sunday?
Wanna meet and drink.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
J. Hill
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB since 1972.
Are you really that surprised the current QB play is so bad?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
for the gradkowski haters its ridiculous how u can bash the guy.The guy has fire inside,he huddles his team and carries himself to want to win badly and no raider qb has been like that since gannon.With what we have he has done an outstanding job.No o-line, no wr’s other than z miller the int will come and the fumbles will come due to this.He gets the ball out fast campbell would probably be out for the year with injury or concussion with this o-line and lack of a wr presence.He’s a gutsy player.Next year with a overhaul on the line and a proven vet wr he has the chance to be a special qb.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
All I can tell you is A lot,..wont know row until Im there dude.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Are you really that surprised the current QB play is so bad?
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Gardowski is a decent QB. Where have you been?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
J Hill Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Of course Al Davis has something to do with the on field product. He’s the owner, right?
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You’re also aware he’s the General Manager too, right? or was that some kind of disingenuous azz slip?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Paul Hackett, Ted Tollner, and Hue Jackson (all Davis hires) have done a pretty decent job with Brice Gardowski.
Cmon man!
October 5th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
All I can tell you is A lot,..wont know row until Im there dude.
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Lot A
I’ll hunt You down!
What should I look/listen for?
Music? Vehichles?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
J Hill Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Paul Hackett, Ted Tollner, and Hue Jackson (all Davis hires) have done a pretty decent job with Brice Gardowski.
Cmon man!
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If you’re just going to be disingenuous, I have better things to do.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Disingenuous?????
Gardowski is putting up 24 pts a game.
You don’t think that is decent?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
The General Manager is on a 30-86 stretch. All other components have been changed.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Jan,..Marie,…Nussbaum,..they all thought you were an ok dude,..not a good closer,..now all they think about you is your obsession with chatrooms and message boards have made you somewhat crazy,..thats the truth dude,..learn from it.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
You Davis apologists have sank so low as to regard a passer rating of 72 and a 1-3 as decent.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
And Iv known those people a Hell of alot longer then you think,..I go to alot of A`s functions,..as they do.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Do you guys really think Al Davis will be a better GM at 82, rather than 81?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
You people certainly have the right to genuflect towards Al Davis all you want.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
You really think youre getting any better at closing houses at your age?…look man,..why discriminate due to age?…thats as bad as sexism, racism,..any ism,…let it go,…its just a number dude,…concentrate on improving yourself, not the owner of the Raiders,..just tryin to help, as you clearly need it.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
The Raiders offense has a freaking pulse!
Let’s see what the hell happens.
The Defense needs to get it’s act together.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I’d like to start off by saying I love the passion of the Raider fans. Most of you hold yourself accountable for what you say online and are even willing to return and post when you have been proven wrong. That says more than I can say for our Head Football Coach.
Many of you who predicted a successful season have already owned up, but our Head Coach has taken no responsibility for OUR 1-3 start.
I see where recently some of you have been discussing the QB situation and who should be the starter. That’s easy. Campbell should be the starter. Football is a business. Campbell is paid more money than Grads so he should be the starter. It is the Coaches job to get the player to perform. This isn’t high school football where the coach needs to decide who the best players are on the team….that effort has been decided by personnel and ownership. Once this chain of command is broken what essentially is being communicated nonverbally is that the Coaches cannot “COACH” up the players they have been given to Coach.
Once a Coach has to replace a player without injury being an issue he has admitted to both himself and the organization that he thinks knows more than the men who afforded him the position in the first place. This creates problems within the communication of the organization as a whole.
Comparing players in this league is not the problem, they are all world class athletes and can perform the duties asked of them if given the proper leadership, plan, and instruction. Case in point, the New England Patriots, coached by CURRENTLY the best football coach in the NFL, Bill Belicheck. He continually wins with men no one has ever heard of, which is what a good coach can and should be able to do. He even went 11-5 when Brady went down with a knee injury. Last night he displayed his coaching talent again showcasing a strong, young defensive unit. Should I mention he’ll be picking a top 10 pick in the draft this year with OUR pick which we traded to him last September?
As per the Raiders situation. Coach Cable is obviously thinking short term with his move to bench his QB so early in the season. Coach Jackson, who took responsibility for the move is also on the hook as this was his idea. So far the team is 0-2 with the move in place. Seems to me Grads is a great changeup coming off the bench. Some view this situation as a controversy, I think it’s a good problem to have.
What concerns me isn’t the move at QB, simply because either Gradkowski or Campbell is going to have difficulty with ball security with the Offensive Line Coaching we currently have in place. If you look at the stats per game, it doesn’t matter if it’s Campbell, Russell, or Grads, they are each turning the football over at too high a rate. This tells us the problem most likely exists somewhere else. Some would like to blame the Offensive Line, some want to blame Mr. Al Davis, but the blame always should fall on the position coach and the Head Coach, but most importantly, the Head Coach.
The main problem the Raiders still have is that the Offense and Defense DO NOT compliment one another. Our Offense now is scoring more points but this has put added pressure on the Defense. In the past our Offense was so pathetic that opposing teams didn’t need to gameplan to score very many points, that will not be the case the remainder of this season.
It seems like the Raider coaches are always re-acting instead of forcing the action. While our Offensive production has improved, our record has not. Why?
Football isn’t about stats. It is about gaining and keeping an advantage. The majority of the Raider yards this season have come when we were behind in the game. This is a problem. Coach Jackson needs to use the aggresiveness he has displayed when the team has been behind before the situation becomes desperate and predictable.
As far as last Sunday goes:
First off, the Raiders didn’t believe they would win against the Texans. This mindset started immediately following the loss to the Cards, a game which it took until Tuesday for the Raiders to get over…If we don’t believe we can win, we won’t win.
The Texans fed this belief by not only sitting their star WR, but benched their RB at the beginning of the contest. This fed into the fear Oakland had about not being respected which grew into a debacle that ended with our weekly moral victory following a loss.
Truth be told, the continuity spoken of for the last year and a half in the coaching staff has nothing to do with our success or lack of it. It is time once again to replace the staff and let someone else do some cooking in the kitchen.
This team/organization needs a leader and does not have one.
They need a Coach with a universal plan for success inside ever facet of the organization.
Coach Cable has done his best, no question. His best just isn’t good enough.
PERIOD
October 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Iv said this before old dude,..I go to alot of sporting events,..A`s,..W`s,..Raiders,…and I dont go, or dont go, due to who happens to own the team,..your obsession is misguided…I think your real frustration lies elsewhere and nothing to do with the Raiders….try therapy dude.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Norco,
I’m hurt dude.
Wanna tip a few.
What you drivin?
What you playin?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Randy Hanson is here.How are you Randy?
October 5th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Campbell should be the starter. Football is a business. Campbell is paid more money than Grads so he should be the starter
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So in other words…
Barry Zito should start the 1st game of the divisional playoff against the Braves.
Genious.
Elkins, all self important.
For the loss.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Silver Bronco,..loud classic metal…dont be hurtin over Raider stuff dude,…its not that important,..before you know it you will be a miserable frustrated old man like kell.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
We need a new HC. You guys can debate on who that should be all night long. But whoever it is should be a Coach that will berate players who make mistakes as they are strolling to the sidelines. Our Coach should be yelling and screaming at guys who make mistakes. Period!
The last guy we had do that took us to the Super Bowl, sort of. Well, his assistant took us with his players.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Silver Bronco,..loud classic metal…dont be hurtin over Raider stuff dude,…its not that important,..before you know it you will be a miserable frustrated old man like kell.
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LOL…
Not hurtin at all.
Just wanted to get the info.
See you Sunday.
It will be good to meet you and Brian.
I love meeting people face to face.
Makes it real.
I’ll have my Son or daughters boy friend with me.
Depends on their work scheduals.
Thanks.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
The main problem with the Raiders is: AL Davis, and all the archaic isms he saddles the organization and coaches, with.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Kell,…lol…nice “isms” line,..pretty funny…whered ya get that?…lol….my guess is post 155 a couple minutes ago,…sorry,..lol…too easy.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
We need a new HC. You guys can debate on who that should be all night long. But whoever it is should be a Coach that will berate players who make mistakes as they are strolling to the sidelines. Our Coach should be yelling and screaming at guys who make mistakes. Period!
The last guy we had do that took us to the Super Bowl, sort of. Well, his assistant took us with his players.
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I’d say that Cable just threw both lines under the bus publicly.
That is a departure from his previous MO.
Cable is not Bill Walsh.
Berating has to be measured. You have to know your players.
Some need a nudge, some need a hug.
Knowning the difference, is the art.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Kell,…all this message board crap aside,..youre always welcome at my tailgate,…will even bring you some of that jap wine ya like, (and makes you a more pleasant person)….will even heat it up for you on our coleman stove we bring,…open invitation dude.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
We need Gruden back.Team will be better and we will sell more tickets.It will kill two birds with one stone.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Good post from Coach Elkins!
October 5th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Yet N Miller is safe for 2 years without ever playing a down.
Commitment to Excellence!
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Concerned about their depth at linebacker, the Raiders signed Bruce Davis and released defensive lineman Jay Alford, beat writer Steve Corkran has confirmed.
The Raiders also waived cornerback Joey Thomas from injured reserve.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Its pretty safe to say Elkins has never seen or read tj’s post or he wouldn’t have jumped out this window.
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Coach Elkins Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Most of you hold yourself accountable for what you say online and are even willing to return and post when you have been proven wrong.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
The only difference between everyone on this blog and Cable is Cable gets to call Timeouts and throw red challenge flags.
Anyone of us can be on that sideline and get the same results.
We need a GOTDAMN COACH!
October 5th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
KKKell, what do you have better to do? You post the same thing here 18hrs a day like a mental patient.
Truth is you have absolutely nothing better to do. You are either living off the govt (which explains your luv for pres purple lips)or your wife is supporting you.
Funny stuff KKKell, keep posting!
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# KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
If you’re just going to be disingenuous, I have better things to do.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I thought Kell was retired.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
RaiderLen,
IMO, you only hug an NFL player two times:
Getting to the Super Bowl.
Winning the Super Bowl.
Anyone else who needs a hug out side of those games don’t need to be in the league. They need their asses chewed out. Pause!
October 5th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
SeaPerch & Murphy still getting a free ride from the Nation. R Seymour still getting a pass…
All you Huff & JLH bashers need to expand your hotizons.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
The main problem with the Raiders is: AL Davis, and all the old archaic “isms” he saddles the organization and coaches, with.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
RaiderLen,
IMO, you only hug an NFL player two times:
Getting to the Super Bowl.
Winning the Super Bowl.
Anyone else who needs a hug out side of those games don’t need to be in the league. They need their asses chewed out. Pause!
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LOL…Fair enough.
“Hug” is meant as a metaphor for support in a non confrontational manner.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
KKKell, learn where to put an exclamation point in a sentence! Where did you go to school by the way? A retard wouldn’t do what you did below.
lol
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he saddles the organization and coaches, with.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
*comma
October 5th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Kell, we all know Davis should hire a GM and step down. You keep repeating it isn’t going to make it so.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Hi,my,name,is,KKKell,I post, on, Jerry’s blog, 18 hrs,a, day. I,have,a,infatuation, with AL,Davis, he consumes, my, pathetic, life, no?
October 5th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Mistabrown, Murphy may be inconsistent, but he is the best WR we have.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Kell, we all know Davis should hire a GM and step down. You keep repeating it isn’t going to make it so.
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Kell has traveled the world.
Imagine the future, make your intent reality.
He learned that in the Navy.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
AB, its no consolation to me that our best WR is not even a starter on a legit NFL football team.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Ab,
I guess Im sick & tired seeing Huff, DHB, Mario, Gallery, JLH get blasted here 24/7 when SeaPerch, Seymour, Murphy get almost a free pass. Either blast all the poor performers or leave them all alone.
Murphys lack of guts to catch a ball over the middle really makes my blood boil. JLH got blasted 10 times worse than Murphy has and it affected his entire game.
Whats Murphy’s excuse?
October 5th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
October 5th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
AB, its no consolation to me that our best WR is not even a starter on a legit NFL football team
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True.
Think about that for a second.
2 starting WR’s…both in their second year.
Combine that with a bad O Line and a mediocre starting QB..
There ya go.
Having said all of that, they have scored 23 or more 2 weeks in a row.
Not bad, all things considered.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
There are teams in this league that would start Gradkowski this very moment if they had him. I honestly don’t think anyone would have even picked Campbell up if we didn’t trade for him. He would have just been cut. Out of the league.
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He was a RFA if a team wanted him they could have easily gotten him!!!!! He is a fiery guy and maybe he could one day be a complete QB but right now he isn’t. I hope he does well but i have no emotional attachment to either him or any player on this team i want results. I lobby for JC because IMO his ceiling is higher than Grads, but his flor is also lower. Grads good will never be as good as JC’s good, but his bad will also never get as low as JC’s because of his akward style
October 5th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Gradkowski maximizes his ability.
Campbell and Boller do not.
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Len, Gradkowski is better than them. He’s a better QB. Never mind effort or desire. Don’t let them punch you into this corner. They’re using meaningless stats from the past and the fact that Gradkowski was never named a starter to own the notion that Campbell is better, and it’s b.s. We’ve seen both of those quarterbacks play this year, and Gradkowski is better in every single category, period. Gradkowski isn’t starting because he has more desire and tries harder than Campbell. He’s starting because he’s better than him, period!
October 5th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
R Seymour is here just collecting a paycheck. He is almost invisible going back to week 1 of last year but T Kelly takes all the heat on the D-line.
NE raped us of a #1 pick, not that we would do anything with it anyway.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Gradkowski maximizes his ability.
Campbell and Boller do not.
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Len, Gradkowski is better than them. He’s a better QB. Never mind effort or desire. Don’t let them punch you into this corner. They’re using meaningless stats from the past and the fact that Gradkowski was never named a starter to own the notion that Campbell is better, and it’s b.s. We’ve seen both of those quarterbacks play this year, and Gradkowski is better in every single category, period. Gradkowski isn’t starting because he has more desire and tries harder than Campbell. He’s starting because he’s better than him, period!
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We can disagree on some fine points, but I’m a results oriented person.
Gradkowski has demonstrated an ability to put points on the board.
That is all I need to see.
The rest is moot.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
If the new management sucks for 7 Years, will that be AL’s fault too?
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That’s a far fetched scenario, because no other owner has ever sucked for 7 straight years. Just Al Davis.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
R Seymour is here just collecting a paycheck. He is almost invisible going back to week 1 of last year but T Kelly takes all the heat on the D-line.
NE raped us of a #1 pick, not that we would do anything with it anyway.
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I would agree that in total Seymour has been a disapointment.
Mabey my expectation was unrealistic, but I thought of Him as an anchor and playmaker.
Is it a “system” issue, or a reflection of his current ability?
I don’t know.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
No owner has ever sucked for 7 years?
LMAO!
Tell that to Cinn, NO, Atl, TB, or Det, or 49er fans.
I havent seen a all out blatant lie or falsehood like this since tj said Black Moses would win us 3 SB’s!
Nice going MR! haha
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# The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
That’s a far fetched scenario, because no other owner has ever sucked for 7 straight years. Just Al Davis.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What do you ole boys think of that privatized Fire Dept down there in Obion County Tennessee?
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No kidding. Yet another example of how much better the private sector is at running things than the government.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
R Seymour is here just collecting a paycheck. He is almost invisible going back to week 1 of last year but T Kelly takes all the heat on the D-line.
NE raped us of a #1 pick, not that we would do anything with it anyway.
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I don’t agree with you about Seymour. He hasn’t been a dominating force. But, it seems that when ever a d-lineman makes a big play, he is involved. Him and Nnamdi were the only defensive players that showed up against the Texans.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
MR is almost always misguided, wrong, borderline manic,..however hes dead on with the little Polock,….the little Polock is easily the best qb on this team,…if Campbell starts Texans game its likely a 56-6 game.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Mistic,
6 turn overs, ya, 6 turnovers, 6 turnovers, 6 turnovers.
Obsess much?
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If juggling’s your only party trick, juggle.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
MR, you followed that first gem up with “government is better than the pvt sector”
I bet you thought cash for clunkers was a brilliant idea on your way to the DMV after leaving the post office!
Brain dead.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
MR only posts when his prozac is wearing off & his viagra is kicking in.
Hide his hot cousins ASAP!
October 5th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
That’s a far fetched scenario, because no other owner has ever sucked for 7 straight years. Just Al Davis.
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LOL…
This hit me good.
Genuine amusement.
You’re right. It’s documented.
I would however say the Lions have been almost as bad.
William Clay Ford. A close 2nd.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
If the county is violating LAW, then it needs to be addressed.
If not, then a non story.
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Watching a neighbors house burn down is a non-story?????? Only in TeaBag country
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No, you see, Kell, it would be a story if this fire department were a government agency, and union. Even if they were obeying the law, letting the house burn down per some type of fee ordinance in that county, whatever. They’d be ballistic! But because it’s the private sector that committed this atrocity, and it flies in the face of their political platform that private industry is better than government, they’re downplaying it and pretending it’s a non issue.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
If it wasn’t for socialism, Al Davis would have gone out of business years ago.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
It was a trailor,…bfd.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
MR probably thinks an illegal alien housekeeper collecting 23.00hr falsifying documents to dupe her employer is an American hero. Too bad we cant deport MR along with the illegal law breaker.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
202-Very well put.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
We dont need a border patrol,..we need assasins on the border,..prob solved. I can mow my own lawn.
October 5th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
AB,
31 other NFL teams are supporting AL Davis & his blackouts. In addition the chunks of the team he keeps selling off to stay afloat.
Socialism isnt really in the equation unless you are talking about our current regime in Wash.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
HBO overhyped Boardwalk Empire,..so far it sucks.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Norco, when your trailer burns down, we’ll see how you feel.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Get a clue.
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# lefty12 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
202-Very well put.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Blackouts are beautiful.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
AB,
31 other NFL teams are supporting AL Davis & his blackouts. In addition the chunks of the team he keeps selling off to stay afloat.
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Exactly. If it wasn’t for the more successful teams sharing the wealth, the Raiders would have gone under or moved out of Oakland.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Sorry AB to disappoint, but Iv never even been in one much less lived in one,..if I had a friend who owned a trailor that he lived in, I would not be his friend anymore,..Im real.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Black booty is beautiful.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I’m a results oriented person.
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Not if you don’t think Bruce Gradkowski is the best QB on this team, you’re not.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Sorry AB to disappoint, but Iv never even been in one much less lived in one,..if I had a friend who owned a trailor that he lived in, I would not be his friend anymore,..Im real.
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Sorry Norco, you just seem like a trailer type of guy.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I used to know Peter Eiges pretty well before he left Oakland,..now hes with the UFL…we would talk alot of “the splits”….the monies devided to visitting teams from the home team,..he told me the Denvers, KC`s,..teams that sell like 75K seats, Oakland got a nice chuck of those games,..but the money Al had to cough up to them was almost nothing,…crazy like a fox.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
“We have the right people on the field”
- Tom Cable speaking on possible defensive changes.
Very disturbing!
October 5th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
AB you can stereotype all day long,..it will get you nowhere, and I bet it has.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
If it wasn’t for socialism, Al Davis would have gone out of business years ago.
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Revenue sharing?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Not exactly.
32 teams agreed to “share the wealth”. Nobody agreed to Socialsim that’s why pres purple lips does like every libtard and campaigned as a moderate.
You see the difference right AB ?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
AB I live in South Shore now,..there are trailors there,..but for the people that have jobs cleaning casino hotel rooms,..keepin it real.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Exactly. If it wasn’t for the more successful teams sharing the wealth, the Raiders would have gone under or moved out of Oakland.
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The Raiders carried the east coast market in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s as the late West Coast National broadcast.
Al Davis’ Raiders helped make the NFL what is is today.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
We actually got a dusting today of snow,…its amazing what that does to the people up here,…so much excitement around here…when we went to the game sunday,..as soon as we got close to the bay area,..say Vallejo, the overwhelming bad taste came back,…even though the Raiders lost, we had huge smile knowing in about 3 hours we would be back in paradise.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Not if you don’t think Bruce Gradkowski is the best QB on this team, you’re not.
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Whom has demonstrated an ability better than gradkopwski to put points on the board?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Kell, we all know Davis should hire a GM and step down. You keep repeating it isn’t going to make it so.
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Whatever nonsense you post in here everyday isn’t going to help either. At least, I’m not delusional.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Mistabrown, do you even know what socialism means? What do you think revenue sharing is? Even the draft and scheduling system is set up to even the playing field. The NFL is creating wealth with capitalism and using that capital to support a socialistic system. Kind of like Marx intended.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Doofus Boob.
You’re a needy little thing aren’t you?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
AB, you will never see a socilaist marxist loving libtard like pres purple lips campaigning on socialism he knows he has to lie and run as a moderate to get elected. People like you MR, and KKKell buy into hope & change like retarded fools and make the rest of us suffer for 4 years.
HC is all about spreading wealth not insuring the uninsured. Its cool 2012 will be here before we know it!
October 5th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Lol old kell,…has all the answers,…where from the old man barber shop?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I agree about Seymour’s lack of total commitment, he does make the occasional play but he offers very little leadership and seems to mostly go through the motions. Remember when Randy Moss was a Raider?
Looking ahead at the season schedule scenario, there are only 2 possible wins left, back to back Seattle and KC here, and because 3-6 will happen just before the bye week, it sure will falsely fire up the Raiders into keeping Cable for the rest of the season, only to lose the remaining seven games at Pitt, Miami, at SD and Jack, Den, Indy, and at KC, ready for a 3-13 season, and possibly fighting AZ or Buffalo for the worst record and a #1, so Seymour should provide the Pats a great replacement for Moss, plus the Pats double up with another #1 from the Vikes.
And to think Davis gave away Moss for a 4th rounder.
Does anybody remember the loser the Raiders got for Moss? Will Davis also give away Seymour for another 4th round loser in 2012?
Adding insult to the disaster. What a shame.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Kell, the reason you are the delusional one is that you take yourself too seriously. I’m just having fun. Have a nice night semi-pro blogger.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Nice post Elkins…
Cable needs a defense attorney to refute that one.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Gardowski will be fine.
He only gets into trouble when he tries to throw to those inexperienced WRs.
Seems like Chazerella will be back for the 49r game per Cable. QB play should improve accordingly.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
MistabrOwn, you have been tea bagged one too many times.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Needy?…dang dude, I offer you a party at my tailgate,..meet me and brian, have a good time,..and yet you still have to be that cranky old man,..you must be the life of the party…youre almost 60 dude,…Nussbaum doesnt hang in a chatroom, thinks its weird that you do.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
AB, I’ll say it 1 more time and this will be it.
32 teams voted & agreed to revenue sharing. Nobody agreed to share wealth except for you left wing derelicts who dont earn anything. We didn’t vote for Socialism its being forced down our throat and renamed things like Health Care & Cap and trade.
What part of this dont you understand?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
[...] Oakland Raiders have signed linebacker Bruce Davis off the San Francisco 49ers practice squad, Jerry McDonald of the Bay Area News Group [...]
October 5th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Just scored Giants-Braves tix,..craigslist…will wear my old school Kevin Mitchell jersey.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
MR probably thinks an illegal alien housekeeper collecting 23.00hr falsifying documents to dupe her employer is an American hero.
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Put her on Wall Street, jack that 23 dollars an hour up to billions per year bilked from tax payers, whiten her skin, and you think she’s an American hero.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Cable sees the same things we see. Even talked about how ridiculous it was that the Texans were able to run the exact same play twice to open the game.
Talked about the lack of pass rush, players taking snaps off, etc.
Problem is he doesn’t think the players responsible should be replaced. Not one of them.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
HBO overhyped Boardwalk Empire,..so far it sucks.
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I agree. I hate how HBO keeps comparing it to the Sopranos to advertise it. “If you think Tony Soprano was tough…”, etc.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Chaz will improve the QB play. Oh wow! Thats a doozy. LOL. Gradkowski has thrown a hell of alot more passes to Loui and DHB than he has the Chaz.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
MR, why dont you just stick to hugging Bruce’s nuts and licking Grudens ball bag. Everything else you are derelict as humanly possible.
Just a suggestion no need to respond.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Chaz not doing a damn thing if 300lb pounders get to knocked the QB out
October 5th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
No trailors in Meeks Bay….(google it for you fools that dont get out much)
October 5th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
what it be brian
October 5th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Its not his call.
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# J Hill Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Cable sees the same things we see. Even talked about how ridiculous it was that the Texans were able to run the exact same play twice to open the game.
Talked about the lack of pass rush, players taking snaps off, etc.
Problem is he doesn’t think the players responsible should be replaced. Not one of them.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Did anyone notice Tommy Kelly at DE late in the 4th qtr with Bryant and Seymour at DT?
October 5th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Dig you give up MistabrOwn. I guess you lose the debate, again.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Bauce in the building.
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Sup Mista……sad about Murphy eh? Alligator arms…..I went over a friend’s house and reviewed games from this year and last……I like Louis but man he gotta step it too…….
October 5th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
If Al Davis’ boy Jamarcus Russell can be benched, certainly Branch, Houston, Scott, or Groves can be benched.
Huff has already been benched for Hiram Eugene of all people.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
sad about Murphy eh? Alligator arms…..I went over a friend’s house and reviewed games from this year and last……I like Louis but man he gotta step it too…….
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Chaz’s 8 games played this year are going to address this. Murphy will go back to #3 and we will have a reliable set of hands to compliment Miller.
October 5th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
we have to go .500 the rest of the year just to get to 7-9
October 5th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Nnamdi
Al Davis’ isms forced on the coaching Staff and Organization is the biggest detriment to change, whaddya think?
October 5th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Campbell, Grads? Pick your poison. Both not the answer right now but one may be long term and thats Campbell. The former 25th overall draft pick has excuses so far but he’ll need to make leaps and bounds if we don’t see him till next season.
He might be back soon if Grads gets crushed more or the line dumps on him.
Campbell’s got the potential still. With Grads you pretty mcuh got what you got.
A guy with a lions heart and intangibles but not the skill set.
With Campbell you’ve got the tangibles but he’s never been comfortable enough with a system or O to have the confidence to even show he can lead.
Maybe he’s a bust, we just don’t know.
One thing, it seems he’s the type of Qb who’s not going to take the game onto his shoulders and win it.
He may be able to contribute here and there but at this point he’s not Grads in that department.
Right now, we need Grads to compensate for the O and wides and for Campbell to keep grinding at the books.
October 5th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Nnamdi
Al Davis’ isms forced on the coaching Staff and Organization is the biggest detriment to change, whaddya think?
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Sadly, I fear…that may have some merit…
October 5th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Peace owt nation! Grilled cheese!
October 5th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
[...] The team also waived cornerback Joey Thomas according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. [...]
October 5th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Why is Campbell considered to be the long term answer and Boller isn’t even mentioned?He was also a former 1st round pick-19th overall.He has also had more success in the NFL than Campbell has.
October 5th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Why is Campbell considered to be the long term answer and Boller isn’t even mentioned?He was also a former 1st round pick-19th overall.He has also had more success in the NFL than Campbell has.
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Because Boller was with a class org in Baltimore and had a great D every year and a real offensive minded coach and Off. Coord. JC was drafted by “Raiders East” had solid to good defenses every year to go along with his new playbook and off. coord.
October 5th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
At this point Tom Cable makes Jim Fassell look like he would have been a good hire. I think Mooch or Gilbride will be our next coach but i would prefer Frazier from Minny.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Because he played for Balt.-that isn’t a reason.Why has JC had a new OC every year and never really been successful with any of them.Maybe he just isn’t any good like Smith across the bay.As far as Billick being an Off. minded HC,that is a laugh.He never produced a great offense in Balt. but always had a great Def.Wash. also had Off. minded HCs and did their best when Campbell was injured or benched.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Campbell couldn’t be successful playing for Gibbs for god sakes.You won’t find a more offensive orientated HC than Joe Gibbs,or a HC who has had more success bringing along young QBs.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Why is a guy that’s had far less playing time than both Campbell and Boller, and shown an ability to put points on the board, (something Campbell and Boller haven’t done, despite far more chances) not considered the long term answer ?
Oh yeah, I get it. He’s too short and his arm isn’t a cannon.
Well, there’s more to being a good NFL QB than being 6′5″ and throwing the ball 80 yards.
Got news for you. Campbell is what he is. A tall guy that throws a nice spiral, but not a good QB. All that B.S. about the different offensive coordinators preventing him from developing is a crock of garbage. Campbell hasn’t gotten the job done in the NFL, and he never will. Just another 1st round bust.
Grads, on the other hand, doesn’t look the part, but he can get the job done. Doesn’t have a cannon, but his arm is strong enough. Most importantly he’s accurate, makes quick decisions, and has shown the ability to convert crucial 3rd downs and come from behind.
Grads hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. He’s going to get even better with more experience. Campbell and Boller have both gotten tons of playing time and failed.
Tell me again which QB of the 3 has a chance to be the long term answer.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
99-I’m not disagreeing with you or that opinion,just asking why so many throw out Campbell’s name but never mention Boller.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Because he played for Balt.-that isn’t a reason.Why has JC had a new OC every year and never really been successful with any of them.Maybe he just isn’t any good like Smith across the bay.As far as Billick being an Off. minded HC,that is a laugh.He never produced a great offense in Balt. but always had a great Def.Wash. also had Off. minded HCs and did their best when Campbell was injured or benched.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Joe Gibbs was so good his second time around that he walked away because he knew that this NFL is far different than the one he left. The point i was making in the contrasting of the 2 is that Boller was giving everything that he needed to succeed and didn’t, JC has been learning a different system for every year but 1 in his career, if you think that is not difficult than you obviously have some type of bias against him. Also the only time the Redskins had a different QB was in JC’s second year when Todd Collins finished the year 3-0.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Why is a guy that’s had far less playing time than both Campbell and Boller, and shown an ability to put points on the board, (something Campbell and Boller haven’t done, despite far more chances) not considered the long term answer ?
Oh yeah, I get it. He’s too short and his arm isn’t a cannon.
Well, there’s more to being a good NFL QB than being 6′5″ and throwing the ball 80 yards.
Got news for you. Campbell is what he is. A tall guy that throws a nice spiral, but not a good QB. All that B.S. about the different offensive coordinators preventing him from developing is a crock of garbage. Campbell hasn’t gotten the job done in the NFL, and he never will. Just another 1st round bust.
Grads, on the other hand, doesn’t look the part, but he can get the job done. Doesn’t have a cannon, but his arm is strong enough. Most importantly he’s accurate, makes quick decisions, and has shown the ability to convert crucial 3rd downs and come from behind.
Grads hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. He’s going to get even better with more experience. Campbell and Boller have both gotten tons of playing time and failed.
Tell me again which QB of the 3 has a chance to be the long term answer
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At the NFL level Grads has been anything but accurate and has never had a year when he had above a 60% pass completion. He was all world accurate in college but that didnt translate to the NFl. He is also a turnover machine i think he alread has 5 or 6. To anwser your question, unless Grads steps up the accuracy and cuts down the mistakes, or JC starts playing with a much higher sense of urgency we dont have our future QB on this roster.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:01 am
raiderman you are looking at this with too much emotional investment in a player and not the team. I thought it was too early to dump campbell and it is too early to dump Grads. Grads has put up avergae numbers against 2 poor defenses. Jason put up below average #’s against a good defensive team and against the common opponent Grads outplayed JC after halftime adjustments were made (adjustments both coaches admitted to making, then later denied). The main difference i see is what each has done in the red zone, there where Grads has been better. When it comes to point production Grads has been able to do what JC couldnt in his 1 1/2 games so he desrves the start until further notice.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:07 am
goodnight all
October 6th, 2010 at 12:08 am
The reason he has had a different OC every year is they all failed with him as QB,just as H.J. would have if we didn’t bench him.If the guy can’t be successful in so many different OCs systems,maybe he can’t be successful with anyone.BTW,his owner went out and got him everything he needed to be successful and he never was.Maybe you are the one with the bias.I base my opinion on his continued failure under different circumstances-if it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck,and walks like a duck,eventually you have to realize it is a duck.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:19 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Jason put up below average #’s against a good defensive team
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Campbell played the first half against the Rams and sucked against them, too. I see a new liar has joined the fray. Keep ‘em coming, liar.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:23 am
My authentic lamarr houston jersey just came in. wish he’d be turning more heads, but he’s been steady for a rook. if you notice, he always stays home and keeps contain unlike trevor (crash the line no matter what) scott. boots dont work to lamarrs side. kid plays smart and as a rookie i love that. hopefully he’ll start to blossom as the year goes on.
but they jersey looks sick, im juiced
October 6th, 2010 at 12:27 am
lefty12 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:08 am
The reason he has had a different OC every year is they all failed with him as QB,just as H.J. would have if we didn’t bench him.If the guy can’t be successful in so many different OCs systems,maybe he can’t be successful with anyone.BTW,his owner went out and got him everything he needed to be successful and he never was.Maybe you are the one with the bias.I base my opinion on his continued failure under different circumstances-if it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck,and walks like a duck,eventually you have to realize it is a duck.
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Pro sports is aboust consistency, without it you are lost. It is impossible to get comfortable in a system when that system is constantly changing and being taught by different people with different styles and different expectations. If a kid were a military brat and constantly moved from school to school and had average grades though they worked as hard as they could and were a bright kid, would you blame the kid, the teachers or the constant change the child endured. I have no bias i see each QB for what they are, the only game that seperates Grads from JC is the game against the Rams. There is no gurantee Grads would have done better against Tenn. (especially after seeing how poorly he did against a bad Houston D) and there is no gurantee that JC would have done any better against Ariz or Hou. I am just of the opinion that we have not had enough season to make a change at QB. The results have been no different. Grads is 0-2 as a starter and he deserves a few more games to prove whether or not he can get it done, an oppurtunity that JC was not afforded.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:30 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:19 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Jason put up below average #’s against a good defensive team
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Campbell played the first half against the Rams and sucked against them, too. I see a new liar has joined the fray. Keep ‘em coming, liar.
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You aren’t possibly using a half to determine the outcome of a full game are you….. I lied about nothing if you read my post i gave Grads credit for outplaying JC in that game and putting points on the board, i just simply pointed out that those points were put up against inferior defensive teams to tenn. JC’s only full game opponent.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:34 am
Although the only reason you are rooting for the raiders is because of Bruce, and the only reason you are rooting for Bruce is because of your sick fetish over his connection to Gruden, it is nice to have you onboard MR.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:38 am
I think it’s actually pretty cool that McClain is not talking to the press. I just wish he would succeed in playing better and have an impact. That’s the only talking that really matters in the end.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:42 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:19 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Jason put up below average #’s against a good defensive team
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Campbell played the first half against the Rams and sucked against them, too. I see a new liar has joined the fray. Keep ‘em coming, liar.
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The Real Strawman Raider
October 6th, 2010 at 12:43 am
AbusedByAl Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:38 am
I think it’s actually pretty cool that McClain is not talking to the press. I just wish he would succeed in playing better and have an impact. That’s the only talking that really matters in the end.
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I agree if he was ballin I’d be all for it, but hes been average. you can tell he’s gonna be a good player though, and it doesn’t hurt that Al will die at some point during his tenure here and he’ll get to play an actual NFL defense. Back to the media thing tho, it is entertainment so that kinda bothers me that he doesnt talk to us. oh well,better than him being an idiot.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:46 am
AbusedByAl Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:38 am
I think it’s actually pretty cool that McClain is not talking to the press. I just wish he would succeed in playing better and have an impact. That’s the only talking that really matters in the end.
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If an athelete is doing well he better not say sh!t about it to the press because that is shameless self promoting and totally selfish, but if he is doing poor or playing mediocre he should do an interview every chance he gets??? Does that make any sense, he just talked to the press after the last loss what more do they want??? Asomugha is our defensive diplomat and Huff is also one of the vocal leaders of that unit, speak to them.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:46 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:27 am
It is impossible to get comfortable in a system when that system is constantly changing and being taught by different people with different styles and different expectations.
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The hardest thing about life is making excuses for someone when someone else has proven that they’re capable of doing it. Gradkowski has been through different systems too, yet he steps up and gets the job done. Because he’s a good QB. Campbell is a bust.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:48 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:30 am
I lied about nothing
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You said Campbell has only faced good defenses this year. That’s a LIE. The Rams are ranked 23rd. Campbell played against them and he sucked, still. One half is plenty because had he lit it up in that half, you’d be using that as a reason to play him, wouldn’t you? Liar.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:50 am
# severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:34 am
Although the only reason you are rooting for the raiders is because of Bruce, and the only reason you are rooting for Bruce is because of your sick fetish over his connection to Gruden, it is nice to have you onboard MR.
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Get caught lying, go to the conspiracy theories. Typical.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:52 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:46 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:27 am
It is impossible to get comfortable in a system when that system is constantly changing and being taught by different people with different styles and different expectations.
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The hardest thing about life is making excuses for someone when someone else has proven that they’re capable of doing it. Gradkowski has been through different systems too, yet he steps up and gets the job done. Because he’s a good QB. Campbell is a bust.
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Grads has been with this team for a full season last year and has been in this system since at least early february as hue jackson arrive in late January. Jason Campbell met almost everyone on this team for the 1st time in the last week of April.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Grads played for other teams, in different systems. Grads was playing in that bizarre half vertical game, half west coast offense we tried to use last year, and stepped up big time. Your whole argument tonight is a huge fail, dude. You got caught lying. You’re making excuse after excuse for a bust QB. You’re coming up with conspiracy theories as to why people are Raider fans. That’s called a bad day at the office, Severeraiders. You took a severe beat down tonight. Go to bed, lick your wounds, and try a smarter angle tomorrow. Your fellow Raider fans aren’t as dumb as you think they are. That’s your problem. Davis shill.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:58 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:48 am
severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:30 am
I lied about nothing
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You said Campbell has only faced good defenses this year. That’s a LIE. The Rams are ranked 23rd. Campbell played against them and he sucked, still. One half is plenty because had he lit it up in that half, you’d be using that as a reason to play him, wouldn’t you? Liar.
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I never used the word only, straw man. I even made it clear that Grads outplayed him against their only common opponent. One can not judge the outcome of a game or an idividuals performance based on a half….see chris johnson week 1 2010. So far it is looking like you are the liar, straw man. Been watching beck lately i see, is JC a Maoist could that be why you hate him so???
October 6th, 2010 at 1:02 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Grads played for other teams, in different systems. Grads was playing in that bizarre half vertical game, half west coast offense we tried to use last year, and stepped up big time. Your whole argument tonight is a huge fail, dude. You got caught lying. You’re making excuse after excuse for a bust QB. You’re coming up with conspiracy theories as to why people are Raider fans. That’s called a bad day at the office, Severeraiders. You took a severe beat down tonight. Go to bed, lick your wounds, and try a smarter angle tomorrow. Your fellow Raider fans aren’t as dumb as you think they are. That’s your problem. Davis shill.
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You get owned, accuse me of being a liar using straw man tactics, get caught lying yourself, resort to childish name calling and some how claim victory. Your Tea Party candidate out of Sacramento….Straw-Man Raider!!! You are a sad, strange little man and i pity you
October 6th, 2010 at 1:56 am
Yeh, buddy. Just tell us again how Campbell has only faced tough defenses, when he stunk it up against the 23rd ranked Rams’ D in the first half of that game. You said he only faced tough defenses. YOU LIED. End of story. You think Raider fans are dumb, but you’re the one that’s dumb. Goodnight.
October 6th, 2010 at 3:34 am
RAIDER NATION TODAY IS THE DAY WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ……..THE DAY MOSS GOES SOUTH WITH THE PATSIES.THIS IS GREAT NEWS.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:39 am
Really? Pats paid 4th round pick, got 259 receptions for 3904 yards and 50 TDS and are now going to get at least a 3rd for Moss. They will now own 2 picks in each of the first 3 rounds of the draft next year. They hosed the entire NFL on that deal.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:37 am
yup, a 3rd round pick for Moss… now Favre has a target… and when sidney rice is back wow!!! and percy as the vikes Wes welker, this should mean the lakers (sorry I mean the vikings) should be fun to watch..
October 6th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Wait…Moss to Vikings? Oh oh…
Good Morning Nation!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Wow…go here…
http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL
Seems like every other entry is about Randy Moss
October 6th, 2010 at 5:56 am
Yep yep Moss will have good year till playoffs then he will disappear like he always does, when does he ever have big Playoff games .Can’t wait till he retires and you have to hear him cry cause no one will ever even mention his name with Rice!
GO RAIDERS!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:01 am
I cannot believe anyone here is seriously contesting the idea–the FACT–that Gradkowski is the best option for the team.
Harp all you want on the turnovers. Both INTs in the Texans games were deflections of good passes. That will happen to any QB. Not his fault.
Fumbles are a concern, but any QB behind that tissue paper O-line is going to get strip-sacked. At least Gradkowski has the awareness and ability to evade a lot of that. How many more strip-sacks would Campbell, with his lack of pocket awareness, have suffered?
He pulled our fat out of the fire and saved the team from what would’ve been a humiliating loss to the Rams. He’s 0-2 as a starter this year you say? Yeah, and if Seabass hits a f@!cking routine chip shot field goal, he’s 1-1. If Murphy doesn’t drop a well thrown ball last Sunday…who knows? I do know this: he was putting us in a position to force overtime in a game that we had no business even being in, given the defensive play.
Gradkowski gets the best use possible out of the embarrassing collection of misfits, rejects, has-beens, never weres and projects on offense. I do know this: in the 5 games he’s started and played the entire game, the team has scored 20 or more points 4 times.
If the defense and special teams would stop letting everyone down, the team could actually win some damn games.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:07 am
SNBPA…
I have to agree with you. I think some in here are thinking long term, in which I don’t think Bruce is…
But right now…Grads is the best option we have because of the tissue paper O-Line you speak of and we all know too well!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:08 am
IF-IF-IF,THE RAIDERS MIGHT BE 4-0 IF…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Groves had a hamstring pull, Howard a knee injury.
Ricky Brown, primarily a strong side and middle linebacker, was inactive because of a hamstring pull. Another linebacker, rookie Travis Goethel, has been out since the start of the season with a lower back injury.
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LB’s available against the Chargers are as follows …
McClain, Wimbley, Scott, Williams, Mitchell, Condo
playoffs ???
October 6th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Jay Alford = trash. glad he’s done
now we only have 4 DT’s though, with Seymour hamstrung.
John Henderson must have the same Podiatrist as Chaz Schilens!
more reps for Houston at DT ???
October 6th, 2010 at 6:13 am
trade Nick Miller for a good Podiatrist!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:13 am
We may find Mitchell is a better LB than a safety… we play everyone else out of position. I hear this week Zack Miller is starting at right guard…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:13 am
Unless they move Shaunessey inside?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:14 am
we play everyone else out of position. I hear this week Zack Miller is starting at right guard…
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hey now, just because McClain got stonewalled by the Texans backup TE doesn’t mean we should start using TE’s as O-Linemen!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:14 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:08 am
IF-IF-IF,THE RAIDERS MIGHT BE 4-0 IF…
Maybe not 4-0, but 3-1 if if if…
Going Sunday? My cousins supposed to be going to this on (funny and they are Niner fans…)
October 6th, 2010 at 6:17 am
I thought Moss got traded to Sandy Eggo for Shawne Merriman?
YOU PEOPLE better check your sources!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Moss gets traded to Vikings for 3rd round pick.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:20 am
75: is that trade final?
or just PFT speculation ???
October 6th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Minnesota next 4 games… at NYJ (Revis, Revis?) home against Dallas, at GB and at NEW ENGLAND (Moss will TORCH the Pats weak a$$ secondary)
October 6th, 2010 at 6:22 am
GOOD DAY HWNRDR,ROCKSTAR,BCZ24,SNBPA.WILL NOT B THERE THIS WEEK HWNRDR.PREVIOUS ENGAGMENT THAT CAN NOT BE AVOIDED.SORRY I MISSED YOUR TEXT SUNDAY MORNING.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Trade is final Rock
October 6th, 2010 at 6:23 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:20 am
75: is that trade final?
or just PFT speculation ???
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was watching mike & mike. says its official here.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Re-sign JaMarcus Russell to be our fatazz run stopper if Henderson can’t go! He can be paid the with a vat of purple drank and 10 free coupons to the Sizzler’s buffet.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:24 am
How many people are P!SSED they threw their Minnesota Moss jerseys away! LOL
October 6th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Good morning Nation.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:25 am
WILL NOT B THERE THIS WEEK HWNRDR.PREVIOUS ENGAGMENT THAT CAN NOT BE AVOIDED
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Dirt Lot, have fun at Chuck-E-Cheese!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:26 am
SNB… dont even JOKE like that! Jamarquil couldnt stop his refrigerator from running if he unplugged it!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Moss getting traded? Pats sick of old croc’ arms eh?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 am
I live in Pittsburgh. Yesterday I looked on Orbitz and StubHub and saw that I can get a good ticket, round trip air-fare to Oakland and 2 nights in a hotel for 600 bucks or so. Tempted to do it.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Re-sign JaMarcus Russell to be our fatazz run stopper if Henderson can’t go! He can be paid the with a vat of purple drank and 10 free coupons to the Sizzler’s buffet
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I honestly think we should re-sign William Joseph & Terdell Sands
then cut Nick Miller & Desmond Bryant
the run defense won’t be SOLID … but it’ll be better than it has been with more beef inside and the injuries we’re going through right now
October 6th, 2010 at 6:28 am
it’s official.
Randy Moss will never have a Super Bowl ring
bwahahahahahaha!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:29 am
# neilb Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Good morning Nation.
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Morning neil… have you heard about the liverpool mess, the two american fools wont sell it to ‘New England Sports Ventures’…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:29 am
Joseph maybe but there is no way Turdell is in football shape.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:30 am
How many people are P!SSED they threw their Minnesota Moss jerseys away!
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most people had them on Ebay or Craigslist for $25.
price just doubled. Bob Kraft just stimulated the economy more then Prez Barook!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:31 am
“I honestly think we should re-sign William Joseph & Terdell Sands”.
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MacDonalds will never let Terdell go.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:31 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:28 am
it’s official.
Randy Moss will never have a Super Bowl ring
bwahahahahahaha!
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neither will any the players on our roster…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:31 am
MacDonalds will never let Terdell go.
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Sands = Grimace?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 am
neither will any the players on our roster…
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eventually we’ll trade Nnamdi Asomugha to New England
Print That
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 am
I remember a play in 2006 that pretty much defines Moss’s career in Oakland. For once, Andrew Walter had time to throw. He stepped up, saw Moss open in the end zone, threw a perfect pass….and Moss drops it.
When was the last time Randy Moss ever dropped an easy touchdown pass?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Afternoon LMN,how ya doing?
This group is owned by the owner of the Boston Red Sox.When will Liverpool learn?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 am
bcz24 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:29 am
Joseph maybe but there is no way Turdell is in football shape.
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That implies the Turd was ever in football shape.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 am
there is no way Turdell is in football shape
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is anybody on the current roster?
12+ hamstring injuries … bum feet for our only sure handed WR and run stopper
October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 am
# neilb Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Afternoon LMN,how ya doing?
This group is owned by the owner of the Boston Red Sox.When will Liverpool learn?
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never!! but its stilll better than those two fools they got now…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Terdell in football shape or the shape of a football?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 am
LMN…..
Could be wrong but I think it could be “out of the frying pan ans into the fire”.
Hope I am wrong…….seeing Liverpool in the bottom three is just ………wrong.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:38 am
98 Vs Falcons Moss drops easy TD that would have sent Vikes to SB but of course he chokes, Randy Moss=Little Chrissy Webber
All-World players who never show up in big games
October 6th, 2010 at 6:38 am
are you bloody english blokes talking about foosball again?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:38 am
…..and into the fire.
Sorry,not enough coffee!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Randy Moss=Little Chrissy Webber
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Chris Webber belongs on the Lakers, just like Dennis Rodman & Ron Artest
October 6th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Yes,sorry Rockstar!!
I’ll go sit on the naughty step!!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:42 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 am
I remember a play in 2006 that pretty much defines Moss’s career in Oakland. For once, Andrew Walter had time to throw. He stepped up, saw Moss open in the end zone, threw a perfect pass….and Moss drops it.
When was the last time Randy Moss ever dropped an easy touchdown pass?
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Monday night… only pass Brady threw his way.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Neil: the naughty step???
October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 am
neilb Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 am
Terdell in football shape or the shape of a football?
LMAO!!!
Dirt Lot—no problem bro! Halloween?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Say what you want about the “we can’t win the Super Bowl” Vikings, but at least they know how to put asses in the seats … favre, moss & peterson … that’s worth paying for … we got Gradkowski, Bush & DHB …
October 6th, 2010 at 6:45 am
favre, moss & peterson … that’s worth paying for …
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dont forget TE Shiancoe & both lines of scrimmage!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Hey Ghost…don’t forget Tommy Kelley and that pidgeon!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:46 am
So reading through my twitter account last night… apparently I am not a real fan of the Raiders because I called out every Raider I have on twitter. Whats wrong with these idiots. 30-86 since the super bowl and they seem more concerned with medal of honor than the upcoming (most likely 14th loss in a row) game against the chargers… and Im not a real fan because I am mad about it?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:47 am
lol .. yeah, and how about them seagulls …
October 6th, 2010 at 6:47 am
I still don’t see the Vikings making the playoffs this year.
Packers have the division wrapped up, even without starting RB Ryan Grant!
Bears will be #2 despite a poor showing against the G-Men …
October 6th, 2010 at 6:47 am
Good morning nation!
This team is as mixed up as a box of crayons. This team blows!
Now we have the ol pulled hammmieee curse!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Neil…
and meanwhlie brondby is imploding… fans yelled all game for our GM to step off…
Brondby=raiders…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:48 am
or should I say the Oakland Hammies..
October 6th, 2010 at 6:49 am
yeah … and we also got michael fluff … and johnny lee friggin can’t catch the ball, whether it’s a punt or a pass
October 6th, 2010 at 6:49 am
On Moss to the Vikes: Was there ever a roster move by the Patriots that really backfired on them? Can’t think of one. Not even Deion Branch’s departure hurt them all that much. They seem to overcome whatever change. They are really savvy when it comes to their personnel. I wish the Raiders were only half as savvy when it comes to trading and drafting……..
October 6th, 2010 at 6:50 am
RR — playoffs! are you kiddin’ me, playoffs!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Rockstar…
There a tv show over here where a nanny sorts out bad children.One of her punishments is “the naughty step”.You go sit there and think ’bout what you did…..!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:52 am
yep ABA, it’s true — in the NFL the rich get richer and the poor, well you know the rest … it takes brains to run an NFL franchise in the 21st century … and not old worn out brains, either
October 6th, 2010 at 6:52 am
They are really savvy when it comes to their personnel. I wish the Raiders were only half as savvy when it comes to trading and drafting……..
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Yup and now they have 2 picks in each of the first FOUR rounds next season… They could feasibly draft Andrew Luck as Tom Bradys backup!!! LOL
October 6th, 2010 at 6:53 am
LMN…..
I did notice that you got beat by FC a couple of weeks back.Didn’t know it was that bad though….
October 6th, 2010 at 6:53 am
we also got michael fluff … and johnny lee friggin can’t catch the ball
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Ghost, welcome to the “hater” list
RUE THE DAY my friend …
Huff & Higgins on any other team = Pro Bowl
October 6th, 2010 at 6:53 am
HWNRDR,WILL B THERE VS. SEA-CHICKENS 31-OCT.LMAO ROCKSTAR..
October 6th, 2010 at 6:56 am
This is Huff’s last year of his contract isn’t it ? Or has he signed a new one?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Neilb, this is his next-to-last year under contract, but that can be voided and Jerry pointed out that players always do.
So, yes, for all intents and purposes, this is his last year under contract.
Gotta think the Raiders are gonna say “Thanks for the memories, Mike, but there’s the door.”
October 6th, 2010 at 6:58 am
agree or disagree next years draft:
LT/RT
NT
FS
G????
October 6th, 2010 at 7:00 am
agree or disagree next years draft:
LT/RT
NT
FS
G????
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disagree
Al Davis will draft 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR and 3 DB’s
ZERO help for the lines.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:01 am
RR — I think you have to be able to make at least 1 of 5 open field tackles to be considered for the Pro Bowl … I believe Huff is like zero for September & October
October 6th, 2010 at 7:04 am
LMN….
Nevermind,I think everyone on this site can chant “there’s always next year”!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:04 am
“just a little more confidence he would have cleared that roof”
LOL
October 6th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Other than Rockstar,does anyone think we’ll re-sign Huff?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:06 am
# neilb Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:04 am
LMN….
Nevermind,I think everyone on this site can chant “there’s always next year”!
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Bwahahahah or at least “next decade”…
October 6th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Heard Huff was ready to sign an extension,
but when he went to sign, he MISSED the paper…
October 6th, 2010 at 7:10 am
VH — LOL!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Post 373….LOL!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Other than Rockstar,does anyone think we’ll re-sign Huff?
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huh?
I never said we would re-sign him!
first of all, Huff has the option to void the final year of his contract – not Oakland. if the Raiders cut him, they are forced to pay the remainder of his guaranteed money. there is no guarantee Huff actually will void his contract, even though Jerry Mac says players do it all the time hoping for a bigger payday. maybe he likes it here? maybe he wants another year to prove himself to cash in during the 2012 offseason?
second, I said Huff will be a stud when he goes to another team. if Huff had a solid front seven and a defensive scheme that wasn’t from the 70’s he’d be a Hall of Fame candidate already … one of the best cover safeties in the league. PERIOD
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 am
It’s sad as fans when all we can do is sit here and ridicule our team … I’m trying to think of something positive to say ….
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Face it guys.
Raiders this decade are up there with terrible teams of the past. 90’s Bengals, 80’s Bucs, Pre-2007 Saints, and the Lions.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 am
… still thinking
October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 am
RR — Yeah, he can cover — but I think, and correct me if I’m wrong, part of a safeties job is to tackle …
October 6th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Its not only that huff misses tackles if u saw the replay on the big td he let up he was so damn late to the play it was rediculous, he saw the runner emerge from the box and didnt even attack until he was half way down the sideline, he missed angle on him and got killed, that was pathetic, and we pride ourselves on having fast DB’s, atleast have a FS that can catch the guy on the sideline, huff isn’t even fast.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 am
ghosttothepost Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:14 am
… still thinking
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You got me thinking now……
October 6th, 2010 at 7:17 am
you go Jmack — Huff is horrible … period
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Huff is like an NHL goalie who can’t stop a puck … last line of defense as to make stops once in a while
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 am
And also RR is right about single high safety… Its ridiculous, and if some of the great FS’s in the league were forst to play that scheme they would make sum good plays but would be overshadowed with the same dreadful runs that huff gives up, 1 guy, and a whole field to cover…do the math
October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Just think, in 20 years they will be remembered as those lovable losers.
They will be featured on old blooper reels on NFL Network.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Both of our safety’s have been bad this year, straight up bad, with our defense its hard to judge what part is weak from game to game, i feel like a team with the offensive scheme of the Texans could come in and beat us 10/10 times…when facing a team with a scheme like that it kills our defensive philosophy which prides itself on 1 on 1 match ups. With motions and cut blocks and zone blocking, our defense looked clueless. Everyone looked bad…I hate to say it too cuz going into the season i thought it would keep us in games, not the other way around.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 am
The first testicular guard, the “Cup,” was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974.
That means it only took 100 years for men to realize that their brain is also important.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 am
With pick #38 in the 2011 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select………
QB, Christian Ponder, Florida State University
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 am
With our personal on defense, WE SHOULD BE PLAYING A PRESSURE TYPED DEFENSE, like baltimore, pitt, or NYJ…. who agrees?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Time for some dinner.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Pasta today.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 am
It’s so funny that we pride ourselves on 1 on 1 matchups, yet every game for years, we frequently leave a guy WIDE OPEN on a screen/short slant etc, especially in the red zone…
Considering we don’t blitz much, where is that defender?
How does this keep happening?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 am
No matter the players or coaches we have, Davis’ ego will always be seen in the team, his philosophy of “me being better then you” is so easily seen in the type of game we play, our pride gets in the way. So easily fooled..
October 6th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Hayes Dayez blasted me yesterday for my point that any deep pass to DHB should be underthrown, as to draw a PI call, because catching the pass is out of the question.
Started thinking about it on my drive home from El Paso yesterday, and I don’t think DHB has yet to catch a pass where his back was to the QB. He is like 0-20.
I think every one of his career catches, yes all 20 of them, are where he is at almost a dead stop, and facing the QB.
Everytime he is moving, or tries an over-the-shoulder type catch…..well we know the result.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Other than his inept personnel decisions, the greatest drag Al Davis imposes on the Raiders is his insistence on a single high safety. It ties the hands of the defensive co-ordinator, as he has to build his system and schemes around that antiquated idea. It pretty much totally rules out a 3-4 alignment which, by the way, we have some good personnel fits for.
Richard Seymour was well on his way to having a Hall of Fame worthy career as a 3-4 end in New England. Tommy Kelly’s size and skill set are ideally suited to 3-4 end. John Henderson has the size to play nose tackle. I think Lamarr Houston could be a NT too in the Jay Ratliff mode–not a prototypical huge fat guy, but someone who’s incredibly strong and is always playing with a high motor and disrupts the run by penetrating the backfield rather than being relaly really fat.
Rolando McClain made his reputation in college as a 3-4 ILB. Kamerion Wimbley has played most of his career as a 3-4 OLB and Trevor Scott could be truly fearsome rushing off the edge as a 3-4 OLB.
But a 3-4 just isn’t compatible with Al’s single high safety and neither are some of the more advanced 4-3 schemes. So we have to suffer with the most vanilla defense in the NFL. It’s one reason I have trouble blaming John Marshall too much.
Jerry actually said yesterday in the chat that it was no coincidence that Rod Woodson has been the only guy to successfully play that role on defense in the last decade….he’s a Hall of Famer and you need some at least close to that level to take that kind of responsbility in today’s NFL of faster, more elusive players and complex offensive schemes.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 am
its like watching a very well coached scheme going up against talent in the back yard, 11 guys on the same page always beats our version of football…Shanahan probly gave kubiak a list of 18 plays that always beat the raiders lol, the truth is its possible bcuz the fact we never change it up, guarenteed, who remembers watching elway bootleging out and finding a wide open sharp.?? Or plummer with putzier, or cutler with shefler, IT ALWAYS HAS WORKED….its like that system was built to beat up on teams that play vanilla like we do..whatever happened to the idea we were gona get creative on defense this year, i dont remember blitzing once last game, Marshall just has to say fu*k it! send the dogs
October 6th, 2010 at 7:31 am
neilb Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Pasta today.
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Had pasta yesterday. Wife is making meatloaf and mashed potatoes today.
I might have a sh!te football team, but I’ve got an awesome wife.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Oh yeah, SnBPA, we did once run a 3-4 defense lol, coincidentally it was in 1983 when we won the superbowl, go figure..
October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 am
My wife’s pasta is better than yours…..na-na-na-na-nah!!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Moss to the Viqueens…I know a lot of people around here will be giddy about that.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 am
LMAO if the Pats win the Super Bowl after they trade Moss.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Davis’ overall scheme / philosophy on offense and defense is possible to be ran, as you said, Rod Woodson lol, our scheme is designed for what Davis has always done, signed veterans that are proven winners and have loads of talent, but we don’t have that, we have youth, Davis isn’t great at building a team ground up, he cant develop youth bcuz he doesn’t believe in coaching!!! Who knows though, i think a lot of our 1970’s team was home grown. Maybe in a few years this team develops into a winner, we have some talented players(young) playing a scheme that suits a veteran established team.
Hard to do, by the way, on a liter note, did anyone see the Ball GRADS threw to JLH down the middle on his come back drive lol?, that ball was a dime, since when does grads not have arm strength or talent!!! I think hes a good player, GET OVER IT.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:42 am
SNBPA:
Saw your earlier post about coming to the game this weekend for around 600 bucks. If you plan ahead you can do even better. Right now, if you wanted to come to the KC game 7 Nov…..you could book a flight on Southwest leaving on Sat and going back Mon for 283 bucks round-trip….no baggage fees. Look for a room on one of the discount sites….or….better yet….get the discount site’s price, then call the hotel and bid it down (Have friends who do this all the time).
October 6th, 2010 at 7:43 am
By some Fruedian phenomenon, when I saw this:
“Raiders add Davis, cut Alford”
I thought it said this:
“Raiders cut Al Davis.”
I swear.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Now that the stench of a pathetic defense effort in a loss has worn out, time to get the kool-aid flowing for a W this weekend.
Chargers aren’t all that good, or at least compared to previous years, are having ST issues and well…..chances are we will beat them one day.
Raiders 31 Chargers 23
October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 am
John Henderson has the size to play nose tackle. I think Lamarr Houston could be a NT too in the Jay Ratliff mode–not a prototypical huge fat guy, but someone who’s incredibly strong and is always playing with a high motor and disrupts the run by penetrating the backfield rather than being relaly really fat.
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false & false
October 6th, 2010 at 7:47 am
did anyone see the Ball GRADS threw to JLH down the middle on his come back drive
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he threw it to Higgins
of course it was a completion!
what are you gonna tell us next, the sky is blue and Kelly aint no nose tackle?
we know these things man!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 am
$600 bucks seems like a lot.
Got two tix for AZ game (about $160), rental car for 3 ($100 total) hotel for 3 ($480 total; $160 a piece) and my SW ticket was $145 round trip (wanna-get away special; flew out Monday at 6:00 am).
So that is about $415 a head.
I think we did pretty well. Planning is key for these things.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 am
JFB, if your boy Bruce turns the ball over 3 times against Sandy Eggo, we won’t lose by just 7. we’ll lose by 21
October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 am
#393
ehhhhm…
Mr. Eric Turner was an amazing safety for the Raids (not sure if he played the single high – but that cat could ball).
RIP
October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Just Fire Baby”’
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Thats what im saying man, we came close to beating them twice last year and it was with jamarcus, grads is obviously better then Jamarcus, maybe we win, i know that our team wants this one, and we will have the mentality that we can win for this game, unlike the texans game….we need to pull this one out to salvage the season….
October 6th, 2010 at 7:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:48 am
JFB, if your boy Bruce turns the ball over 3 times against Sandy Eggo, we won’t lose by just 7. we’ll lose by 21
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I don’t know, we gave up 240 yards rushing at about 7 yards a pop, had three turnovers and were still in position to tie the game, against probably a better team.
Bruce is a gun-slinger, he is going to have some turnovers, but if he can offset it with 24+ points and some of his typical 4th quarter moxie, we will always be in position to win (until we start giving up 300 yards rushing a game).
October 6th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Mike Mitchell, Hiram Eugene & Tyvon Branch
=
Derrick Gibson, Stuart Schweigert & Gibril Wilson
you’re welcome.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:56 am
we gave up 240 yards rushing at about 7 yards a pop
we will always be in position to win (until we start giving up 300 yards rushing a game).
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JFB, did you read the transcript of Jerry Mac’s live chat yesterday ???
some harsh words for your boy McClain and for the record … Jerry Mac wanted us to draft him too!
LOL
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 am
hahahah, ewww derek gibson, you know Davis insisted on drafting him? Gruden actually wanted to draft todd heap that draft… Imagine…Gannon, Rice, Brown, Porter, Garner, Heap…..
October 6th, 2010 at 8:01 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Randy Moss=Little Chrissy Webber
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Chris Webber belongs on the Lakers, just like Dennis Rodman & Ron Artest
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Hate all you want Back2Back and Rodman has 5 Rings Ron Ron has 1 more than Allen Iverson I mean the Canswer
October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 am
a few highlights -
Q: What do you feel is the biggest commonality in the Raiders prolonged run d woes?
jerrymac: A consistent, run-clogging DT to tie up blockers and make the occasional play, forsaking the pass rush.
jerrymac: Problem with Houston is he’s another three technique guy _ just like Seymour, just like Kelly. None are true nose tackles.
Q: I’m getting less impressed with Rolando McClain every week. On both Foster’s and Chris Johnson’s long runs he was out of position and got sealed off. I know he wasn’t expected to turn around the poor run defense by himself and he’s a rookie running the defense but I was still expecting him to make more of an impact than he has so far.
jerrymac: Agree on all counts. And I’m someone who advocated drafting him. Not writing him off, but thought he’d have done more through four games.
Q: How would you rate Rolando’s first 4 games compared to other MLBs you have seen?
jerrymac: Without getting into other MLBS, I’d say his first four games are a disappointment. No other way to put it. No sacks, no fumble recoveries, no forced fumbles, no interceptions, no passes defensed. He’s not talking, but he had to be expecting more. Everyone was.
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thoughts ???
October 6th, 2010 at 8:08 am
some harsh words for your boy McClain and for the record … Jerry Mac wanted us to draft him too!
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Jerry would not make a very good GM.
He wanted us to take RoMac, was ectastic about Jason Campbell, talked about Darren McFadden years 1-2 in training camp, but nothing this year.
He is a jinx.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Hard to blame the run defense on a rookie MLB, i think the fact that we have 3 three technique guys in the middle instead of having run stoppers kills us, thats what u need to break up a line, Davis insists on getting guys that can pass the rusher along with being “alright against the run”..We need henderson back, and i also think we need another guy like him, another big NT..
October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 am
trade RoBust & Seymour to Baltimore for 35 year old MLB Ray Lewis and 33 year old NT Kelly Gregg!
at least we know the run defense would be solid for 2 years … and Al Davis might win another Super Bowl before he dies afterall
October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Jerry Mac a jinx? common lol man
October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 am
thoughts ???
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4 games doesn’t make a career, but he has to play better, and soon.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Blockbuster trade –
Baltimore gets: Robert Gallery, Richard Seymour, Rolando McClain & Nnamdi Asomugha
Oakland gets: Michael Oher, Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis & Kelly Gregg
Deal ???
October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 am
i would take that deal… Oher and Ngata alone would do it for me
October 6th, 2010 at 8:17 am
McClain and Houston are rookies. Inconsistent play is expected.
I blame the system on defense. Al’s old-school system needs to go.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Houston and Mcclain are young, i dont know why they were expected to play so well, talking about them as if they were supposed pro bowlers, they are rookies!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Teams rarely ever trade a player for a player, even scrubs.
It is almost always a player for a draft pick.
Herschel Walker was 20 years ago!!! That don’t happen in today’s NFL.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:20 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:01 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Randy Moss=Little Chrissy Webber
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Chris Webber belongs on the Lakers, just like Dennis Rodman & Ron Artest
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Hate all you want Back2Back and Rodman has 5 Rings Ron Ron has 1 more than Allen Iverson I mean the Canswer
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Had Chris Webber joined the Lakers back in 2002-2003, the Lakers would have won 7 straight titles.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Herschel Walker was 20 years ago!!! That don’t happen in today’s NFL
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Napolean Harris was thrown in the Moss trade.
Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey.
Peyton Hillis for Lady Quinn.
many other examples that I can’t think of right now …
October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 am
# Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Had Chris Webber joined the Lakers back in 2002-2003, the Lakers would have won 7 straight titles.
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But he didn’t. He would never play for that classless franchise. He hates the Lakers and their fans, and has said so.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:29 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:28 am
it’s official.
Randy Moss will never have a Super Bowl ring
bwahahahahahaha!
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Sorry, but a lot of black athletes already have one and more are going to get one, so I don’t know why you’re celebrating.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:31 am
MR,
pipe down you racist sleezeball
October 6th, 2010 at 8:32 am
# Raider75 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Face it guys.
Raiders this decade are up there with terrible teams of the past. 90’s Bengals, 80’s Bucs, Pre-2007 Saints, and the Lions.
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You’re just now facing it? I mean, you didn’t see signs of it at any point in the past 7 years?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Sorry, but a lot of black athletes already have one and more are going to get one, so I don’t know why you’re celebrating.
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Whoa why the racism? He didnt say anything about Moss being black, simply commented on the fact that the Vikings have never won a SB…
October 6th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Rockstar, we all know why you really hate Moss. So I’m just saying, what’s the point? A lot of black athletes are going to hoist that Lombardi every year. Why would you go so excited that one is going to be denied of it?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Awful early for the RealWhinyCharger to be in here isnt it?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Bcz, if you don’t think RRS hates Moss for his race, you’re slower than I thought you were.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Raider Rockstar!!!!!
I have a bone to pick with you brother.
You convinced me that Huff was a good player and I bought into it. He broke my heart aginst the Texans again. That tackle he attempted to make on Foster was priceless. LMAO!!!! I hate this guy now, I can’t wait to see him traded. I know the line blew it but he was right there.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d81b0bddf/RB-Foster-74-yd-run-TD
October 6th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Jan 11, 2007
Chris Webbers wish list: Heat, Pistons, Spurs, Mavs and….LAKERS…..
Sorry MR, he knows a good thing when he sees it…couldn’t ever beat the Lakers, but certainly thought about playing for them.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Moss & Owens are divas.
MR, how’s your cousin?
did you pop the question yet?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Maybe Moss still has some of the Raider curse left in him and will pull his hamstring this year. : )
October 6th, 2010 at 8:41 am
2007? Chris was 50 years old then. Didn’t he retire in ‘06?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:41 am
RR LMFAO!!!!!!!!
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RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Moss & Owens are divas.
MR, how’s your cousin?
did you pop the question yet?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:42 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Moss & Owens are divas.
MR, how’s your cousin?
did you pop the question yet?
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We don’t do that in California, RRS. That’s a southern thing.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Can we get Charles Woodson back? Maybe a trade with Greenbay for Namdi and a cookie or something next year.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Doesn’t look like you do much of anything in California my friend.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 am
All Chris Webber wants in a franchise/city is the ability to get some soul-food at midnight.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:46 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Can we get Charles Woodson back?
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WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD HE COME BACK HERE?
AL DAVIS TREATED HIM LIKE A BUM, AND NOW HE’S ON A SUPER BOWL CONTENDER AND PLAYING THE BEST FOOTBALL OF HIS CAREER. EVEN IF YOU’RE JOKING THAT’S A STUPID QUESTION.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:47 am
I have a bone to pick with you brother.
You convinced me that Huff was a good player and I bought into it. He broke my heart aginst the Texans again. That tackle he attempted to make on Foster was priceless. LMAO!!!! I hate this guy now, I can’t wait to see him traded. I know the line blew it but he was right there.
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CJ Legend 34, I don’t know what to say man
Al Davis & the front seven on D are putting Huff (and Branch) in a position to fail
October 6th, 2010 at 8:48 am
What’s new?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:48 am
I’m surprised Woodson isn’t brought up more. So much for a media that’s after Al Davis. If they really were, not a day would go by without Woodson’s success in GB being brought up, to rub it in Al’s face.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Davis blew it BIG TIME with C. Woodson. Big time. Gave the money to Tommy Kelly instead.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:49 am
What’s new?
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Jhill,
MR is here making racist remarks and bragging about players that did better after leaving Oakland
so pretty much, nothing is new!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Chuck Wood was my favorite Raider.
That guy was money, played his best games in our playoff years, IN THE PLAYOFFS.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Forget any blockbuster trades.
We’re gonna finish the season with who we got.
The read and (don’t) react defense is what it is. There was certainly a lot of sitting back on their heels trying to key in on what the play was going to develop into (stretch, cut back against the grain, PA bootleg), which I don’t forsee against upcoming opponents.
They need a real nasty DC that shows up chewing on wrenches and tells everybody practice isn’t ober until they take a bite outta one.
The style of defense they play is predicated on ‘beating the guy in front of you,’ and really nobody did v. Houston.
Hopefully they will have better luck against the Chargers. If the D has any self respect, we’ll see 150 yards on the gorund or less.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Woodson was treated like a bum????
LMFAO!
I guess you don’t remember the agent signing that tender instead of negotiating a deal, and how that impacted the cap, huh?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Just read Jerry’s chat replay.
Said there were some frustrations in the locker room, that he couldn’t put in print.
Maybe Bruce was pushing some guys around, lol.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Davis blew it BIG TIME with C. Woodson. Big time. Gave the money to Tommy Kelly instead.
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C Wood to Green Bay = 2006 offseason
TK breaks the bank = 2008 offseason
Doofus.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:53 am
So what’s the over/under on how many mis-directions bootleg type plays we will see this weekend?
After the way we played it, opposing OC’s should be ready to call it at least 1-2 a quarter.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:53 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:48 am
I’m surprised Woodson isn’t brought up more. So much for a media that’s after Al Davis. If they really were, not a day would go by without Woodson’s success in GB being brought up, to rub it in Al’s face.
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Al has been a laughing stock for years. Everything ends up being rubbed in his face.
I think trading the best coach you’ve had in a decade to a team that would eventually beat you 11 months or so later is pretty much the crowning achievement in face-rubbing.
Woodson and Nnamdi on the same team????
Fugheddaboutit. Would be better than Hayes/Haynes.
Al f’ed that one up bad. Real bad. Gruden bad.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Chuck Wood was my favorite Raider.
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remember when we played the Bears and he got trucked by Kordell Stewart?
LOL!
Remember T.O. slapping him around like a high school kid?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:56 am
The read and (don’t) react defense is what it is. There was certainly a lot of sitting back on their heels trying to key in on what the play was going to develop into (stretch, cut back against the grain, PA bootleg), which I don’t forsee against upcoming opponents.
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When you have players who haven’t played their postions before in key spots, the read and react is going to be up and down because they don’t have the instincts.
I think we need to use Groves and Wimbley more at DE and hope and pray Goethel, Brown, and Howard get healthy quick.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:57 am
How Aso SHOULD be used.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Charles Woodson, another ex Raider just dancing on Al’s grave, a las Moss, Gruden, et al.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
So what’s the over/under on how many mis-directions bootleg type plays we will see this weekend?
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It’s been working since week 1 TD to Nate Washington. Why would teams do anything different with Branch out there?
Might be a little better by default with Groves on the shelf. You know, we might actually get someone in there who is actually a LB.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Wimbley was drafted as a LB and played LB in cleveland. He might work out at DE, but talking about guys out of position and moving Wimbley to DE is kind of a contradiction
October 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:56 am
The read and (don’t) react defense is what it is. There was certainly a lot of sitting back on their heels trying to key in on what the play was going to develop into (stretch, cut back against the grain, PA bootleg), which I don’t forsee against upcoming opponents.
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When you have players who haven’t played their postions before in key spots, the read and react is going to be up and down because they don’t have the instincts.
I think we need to use Groves and Wimbley more at DE and hope and pray Goethel, Brown, and Howard get healthy quick.
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Agree 100%.
Wimbley and Groves are 34 OLBs.
Scott is a situational 34 OLB.
McClain should be a stay-at-home 34 MLB
Seymour is a 34 DE.
Houston is a 34 DE.
Kelly is a 43 DE, long removed.
These guys have been rearranged far too much and don’t know where they’re supposed to be. How many times did we see guys running into the FB after Kelly and Scott got blown off the line of scrimmage?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Our D stinks. It’s been exposed. And we have an impostor playing FS. He’s not a football player. Get that sissy off the field.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:01 am
bcz24 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Wimbley was drafted as a LB and played LB in cleveland. He might work out at DE, but talking about guys out of position and moving Wimbley to DE is kind of a contradiction
Look at his play in preseason v. the Bears. He does his best work as a 43 DE or 34 OLB.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Rockstar,
Those were October games.
I do remember Chuck dominating WR’s in playoff games under the lights.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Rockstar,
Those were October games.
I do remember Chuck dominating WR’s in playoff games under the lights.
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Yeah, being that he didn’t practice or anything, it took a while to get the Henny, McDonalds, and Kush blunts outta his system.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:03 am
He’s not a football player. Get that sissy off the field.
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Banana, I thought you liked McClain ???
October 6th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Woodson also used to get INTS… no one on our team does that anymore! What do we have 2 for the year right, Groves 1 and Routt 1?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Yeah, being that he didn’t practice or anything, it took a while to get the Henny, McDonalds, and Kush blunts outta his system.
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no mention of the turf toe adventures?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:06 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:03 am
He’s not a football player. Get that sissy off the field.
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Banana, I thought you liked McClain ???
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If McClain shows 5 years of subpar play, then you can say this.
Sorry, RRS. You my boy and everything but there is no more argument for Huff. Dude sucks. Can’t tackle. Period.
With the front 7 playing the way it is, he’s gotta play clean up at FS and he can’t.
He too, is out of position. Nickelback.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:08 am
With the front 7 playing the way it is, he’s gotta play clean up at FS
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LA: exactly!
thats what I’ve been telling you people
October 6th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Coaches better have these dudes prepared to play on Sunday.
At least Grads and the offense are holding their own, well accept Murphy and DHB, who apparently can’t hold anything.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Wimbley was drafted as a LB and played LB in cleveland. He might work out at DE, but talking about guys out of position and moving Wimbley to DE is kind of a contradiction
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He played 3-4 LB and mostly rushed the passer.
Strong side LB in the 4-3 is a whole different animal.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I’m checkin out for a bit. See you in the PM sesh.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:09 am
And who on the Raiders practices, anyway? Did you see a defense last week that practices hard? Isn’t there a long running legend around the league that Shannahan used to purposely run sweeps and rollouts against the Raiders, to wear their unconditioned defense down by half time? Shananan’s biggest problem with Davis is that Davis wouldn’t let him work the team. He knows what’s up.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Rolando McClain has as much impact on the run defense as Darrius Heyward-Bey has on the pass offense …
October 6th, 2010 at 9:10 am
He played 3-4 LB and mostly rushed the passer.
Strong side LB in the 4-3 is a whole different animal.
Exactly. AJ Hawk strong side or weak side 43 LB (I think weak)? Guess it doesn’t matter, he would be an upgrade at either spot.
That would be a nice trade to make. Prob wouldn’t have to give up too much for him either.
Oh well.
To dream.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Woodson was clutch but I don’t know that this was the right place for him. Players are sort of allowed to do their own thing over here and Woodson was known for turning it on and off and getting disinterested at times. You can’t blame him too much since the losing has got to wear on you but he’s not the right player for this atmosphere.
We need players like Nnamdi that take it upon themselves to be the best they can be with no prodding. Just look at the penalty situation as an example. It didn’t improve until the players started disciplining themselves.
The coaching here will always be sub-par so we need players that have the drive to be the best they can be without any motivation. And it’s a hard task indeed to fill a roster with players like this.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:11 am
The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:09 am
And who on the Raiders practices, anyway? Did you see a defense last week that practices hard? Isn’t there a long running legend around the league that Shannahan used to purposely run sweeps and rollouts against the Raiders, to wear their unconditioned defense down by half time? Shananan’s biggest problem with Davis is that Davis wouldn’t let him work the team. He knows what’s up.
Al’s arch nemesis is grinning ear to ear.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:11 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:03 am
He’s not a football player. Get that sissy off the field.
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Banana, I thought you liked McClain ???
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I do. I was referring to Mike Huff.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Although McClain didn’t exactly have a solid game himself this past week.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Banana,
there are at least 8 players MORE responsible for stopping the run than Michael Huff
toss in Al Davis & John Marshall schemes or system that would make 10.
we have bigger fish to fry, my friend
October 6th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Sorry, RRS. You my boy and everything but there is no more argument for Huff. Dude sucks. Can’t tackle. Period.
With the front 7 playing the way it is, he’s gotta play clean up at FS and he can’t.
He too, is out of position. Nickelback.
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I’m finally with you guys.
Was a Huff supporter for a while as I think he is very good against the pass. But with the front 7 being as weak as it is, his lack of “sure tackling” kills us.
The first TD to Ward was ridiculous. Much worse than him not being able to run down Foster.
I think it may be time to see the Branch Mitchell combo. Free Branch from all run support thoughts so he stops getting beat on PA.
Mitchell has been playing well!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:20 am
RRS – I don’t necessarily disagree, but you have to admit that Huff has a job too and he stinks. Did you see those attempts at tackling? Pathetic.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:23 am
But you’re right with respect to the scheme. I’m so tired of the same ole crap. Man, that old man can sure be stubborn. Years and years of bad D but sticks to the same ole crap every year.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:24 am
“We came forward with everything we could to make everyone happy. Especially our fans, and see if we can make this an economically viable organization.”
“Al Davis quote”
October 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Randy Moss, one of the top 5 receivers in Football at age 33 gets traded for a late 3rd rounder from Patriots to Vikings.
Richard Seymore, one of the top 10 DTs in football at age 30 gets traded for a high 1st rounder from Patriots to Raiders(Al Davis).
Lynch, still a premiere RB w two pro bowls gets traded for a late 4th and 6th rounder.
Looking at these deals Who’s the sucker? If U said Al Davis U are right. The wanna be GM these days can’t even close the door bathroom door let alone close a deal for a player at a decent market price. Pathetic. We the fans suffer because this loser keeps losing everything in sight:
- Loses in making deals & trades for veterans,
- Loses in his draft choices.
- Loses in making the right decision to stay in LA in new Hollywood park stadium,
- Loses in firing a good coach(Gruden).
- Loses in Superbowl to Gruden,
- Loses for year after year on the field,
- Loses ……………
Al Davis, U used to be a winner 20 years ago but U’re now a loser. Al Davis, U’re the reason for where Raiders are today. I ONLY feel sorry for the fans. Players are happy since U are paying them above market and they know they don’t have to kill themselves to get the check either since U don’t now how to manage the team and never hold them accountable for their subpar play.
Retire buddy and save whats left of your legacy!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am
I don’t necessarily disagree
you’re right with respect to the scheme. I’m so tired of the same ole crap. Man, that old man can sure be stubborn. Years and years of bad D but sticks to the same ole crap every year
I think he is very good against the pass. But with the front 7 being as weak as it is
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thanks Banana & Jhill!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch & Hiram Eugene can’t tackle or cover.
at least Huff can cover!
and if you don’t think he can tackle anybody, I challenge you to go back and watch the Rams game. Huff played hurt and made several nice open field 1-on-1 tackles on that beast Steven Jackson …
whats the solution?
Stevie Brown or Jerome Boyd at FS (who were linebackers in college and didn’t even make the final cut?) No.
draft a FS in Round 2 next year and ignore the lines again?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:38 am
no response Huff haters ???
October 6th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Rewatching the game. First offensive possession, loper and henderson not sure who to block results in a sack. This is inexcusable the texans didnt stunt or twist, henderson started on the inside man and went to the outside man, loper just whiffed!
33 yd td run. Trevor scott gets walled off on the edge, mcclaine get sealed inside ( although he did collapse the double team). Branch running half speed on the backside pursuit!!! Huff attempts to hug the rb! These cats are not playing like they want to win. Cable’s team comes out flat again. What does he do for pregame, feed the team burritos and chamomile tea, while injecting them with heroin?!?!?!? These cats are sleep walking.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:38 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Rolando McClain has as much impact on the run defense as Darrius Heyward-Bey has on the pass offense …
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Groves even less.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:40 am
whats the solution?
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Complicated.
First of all, we are not running the same ole Al Davis schemes. We play a lot of cover 2 zone which is why you see Branch’s area and the LBs area open a lot. Huff blitzed Schaub on the first play of the game man.
I think that McFadden, Brown, and Ware are going to be decent players for us in the secondary.
We can let Huff walk.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Just read Jerry’s chat replay.
Said there were some frustrations in the locker room, that he couldn’t put in print.
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So I guess we can just try to guess what’s going on.
Something is up with RoMac.
If I recall correctly, Jerry posted something about RM texting Cable after the Houston game to assure TC that he did indeed care.
What the hell is going on when your starting MLB is having to assure the head coach that he ‘cares’….and does it by texting him, no less ?
I can understand RM blowing off fans asking for autographs, and refusing to talk with the press…but I’ve got a feeling RM is also blowing off the coaching staff and maybe some teamates.
Something is brewing here and it ain’t good.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:42 am
draft a FS in Round 2 next year and ignore the lines again?
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Veldheer, Campbell, and Gallery are locks for the Oline next year. Loper is playing really well too, so I don’t see us going Oline.
I could see us going WR easily, lol.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Groves even less.
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Groves was had for a 5th rounder, McClain = Top 10 overall
big difference man
October 6th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Loper is playing really well too, so I don’t see us going Oline.
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Jerry Mac said he played worse than Carlisle on Sunday!
thoughts ???
October 6th, 2010 at 9:47 am
So I guess we can just try to guess what’s going on.
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There were also rumblings about the Texans players clowning at the end of the game about how easy it was to get Houston off his game.
Seymour is suggesting lineup changes …
A lot to speculate from.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Loper was completely dominated in pass-protection all game.
Maybe OK at run-blocking, but he stinks otherwise.
Christian Ponder in round 2 next year. Book it!!!
I started calling for McClain around this time last year.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Charles Woodson was the Man he can do whatever he likes,I like Nhamdi but he will never tackle, cause fumbles or ever have the swagger of Woodson. 2009 DPOY GREATEST WOLVERINE EVER!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Jerry Mac said he played worse than Carlisle on Sunday!
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I recall one play where Loper whiffed on a block. Gardowski fumbled and Loper recovered it.
Other than that, no one has missed Bob Gallery in 3 weeks.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:50 am
So I guess we can just try to guess what’s going on.
Something is up with RoMac.
If I recall correctly, Jerry posted something about RM texting Cable after the Houston game to assure TC that he did indeed care.
What the hell is going on when your starting MLB is having to assure the head coach that he ‘cares’….and does it by texting him, no less ?
I can understand RM blowing off fans asking for autographs, and refusing to talk with the press…but I’ve got a feeling RM is also blowing off the coaching staff and maybe some teamates.
Something is brewing here and it ain’t good.
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Thats not exactly correct. The quote about the text message had nothing to do with RM caring. I was that Romac had text Cable with some ideas on Monday morning.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:51 am
2nd drive gradkowski bailed out by bush macfadden and miller!
Raiders finally in 3-4 wide sets. hue jack is calling a great game.
1st pass jlh on the sidline well covered grads tries to force it it hits the db in the hands, should have been picked in our territory!
DHB runs past the db smokes the safety, that has no shot at catching our young burner. Pass from grads is late and severely under thrown! Defensive back never turns to look for the ball( he had a pick if he plays the ball). DHB makes a circus move jumps over the db and tries to pull the ball of the db’s back!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Jerrymcd More Raiders bad stats: Tyvon Branch no picks, passes defensed, forced fumbles or rec. fumbles thru 4; Lamarr Houston seven tackles thru 4.
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pretty much sums up our D effort at the safety position so far this season.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Thats not exactly correct. The quote about the text message had nothing to do with RM caring. I was that Romac had text Cable with some ideas on Monday morning.
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Middle linebacker Rolando McClain has probably never been part of a team which gave ground as easily as the Raiders did Sunday. He was right in the middle of it, as responsible as anyone else for the poor play, but unavailable for comment Sunday or Monday.
“He sent me a text this morning with some of his thoughts, and it is important to him and he’s embarrassed about it like everybody,’’ Cable said.
-Jerry Mac on Monday
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
DHB has never caught one pass, in about 100 quarters of a play, when he wasn’t at a dead stop and facing the QB.
NOT ONE!!!!
He wouldn’t have caught that pass, if Peyton Manning threw it. Throw it short, hope for PI, it has been the only thing that has worked when throwing the ball deep to DHB.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:58 am
I dont see how that quote shows that he is trying to reassure Cable that he cares. He should be embarrassed. They all should be. You are not getting better if the same problems keep you from winning. A leaky faucet that doesnt leak as much is still a leaky faucet!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:58 am
1st pass jlh on the sidline well covered grads tries to force it it hits the db in the hands, should have been picked in our territory!
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According to Mistic1, I think Bruce’s int total should be up around 20 so far this year, lol.
What part of DB’s can’t catch don’t you understand!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
DHB has never caught one pass, in about 100 quarters of a play, when he wasn’t at a dead stop and facing the QB.
NOT ONE!!!!
He wouldn’t have caught that pass, if Peyton Manning threw it. Throw it short, hope for PI, it has been the only thing that has worked when throwing the ball deep to DHB.
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Heres a though… just dont throw it to DHB…
October 6th, 2010 at 10:00 am
*thought
October 6th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Veldheer, Campbell, and Gallery are locks for the Oline next year.
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when Cable and the zbs are dumped in the offseason, most of the o-line players will be gone too
Walker, Carlisle, Satele, Loper, Gallery, Barnes = OUT
Mario Henderson (2 year starter at LT) is only making 550k this season and he’s a RFA this March with his agent being Drew Rosenhaus
Veldheer & Campbell might be the only keepers and it’s hard to know what they have to offer at this point, isn’t it ???
October 6th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Macclain & Houston look like rookies are supposed to look. back to back plays they look good fighting off blocks , houston pentetrates the back field gives solid pass rush. Romac makes a tackle in the gap. Next series, houston on the ground and romac slow to react get victimized. Zone defense in the red zone is still a problem for our defense! Way to soft Romac nowhere near the tight end on the td pass from schaub.
I am willing to live with the rookie mistakes at this point.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:03 am
The steelers run a 3-4 and have more D-linemen than the Raidehs. How the hell are you gonna stop the run in the 4th quarter with few & undersized linemen? Our GM has no clue.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Robert Gallery originally signed a 7 year deal in 2004, but he restructured his contract in March 2009 and the terms of that were undisclosed… so I don’t know if he’s going to be a free agent or not
October 6th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Think about it…
Your first round pick and starting MLB has to assure the head coach that he ‘cares’ ?
And he doesn’t hang around the locker room to do so in person…he does it by text ?
Like I said, blowing off the fans and press is one thing…but I’m guessing RM couldn’t get out of the locker room fast enough after the defense laid an egg against the Texans.
I’m sensing a pattern here with RM. Being aloof with the fans, refusing to talk to the press. Wouldn’t be surprised if this extended to coaches and maybe even teamates. Maybe he’s not happy being here or has some sort of attitude problem.
I hope not.
Outside of his body slam against the Rams and one play last week we he diagnosed and blew up a screen bautifully, RM has had a negligible impact.
Last thing this team can afford is a first round headcase with a questionable attitude.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:09 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
DHB has never caught one pass, in about 100 quarters of a play, when he wasn’t at a dead stop and facing the QB.
NOT ONE!!!!
He wouldn’t have caught that pass, if Peyton Manning threw it. Throw it short, hope for PI, it has been the only thing that has worked when throwing the ball deep to DHB.
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According to Mistic1, I think Bruce’s int total should be up around 20 so far this year, lol.
What part of DB’s can’t catch don’t you understand!!!
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Why are you doing this to yourself? That deep pass was terribly under thrown, and was late! He did not throw it short on purpose, and if he did that is a bone headed throw. When the db is one on one you can under throw and hope he crashes into your receiver, but when a safety is on the way over also form the rear, your under throw suddenly turns into a throw into double coverage! Also when the receiver has separation on the corner like ddhb had you dont make him stop and come back into the double coverage, you get rid of the ball early and and let dhb trun under it! Its either a bone headed decision or, a noodle armed pass attempt.
I dont care if the db dropped the int, its a force to jlh on the side line. Weather the db caught it or not is beside the point, bad decision , bad throw.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I think McCLain’s biggest issue has been his inability to deal with failure.
He was a true freshmen, who started at MLB for Alabama, and was a stud from day one collegiately. Ended with him winning a National Championship, and a zillion awards.
Now he is lost in the shuffle of the Raiders annual version of an awful run D.
He just turned 21. As long as somewhat rights the ship, he should be OK down the road.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:12 am
You can call it a bad throw, it certainly wasn’t a good throw, but there isn’t a WR in the NFL that makes as much money as the DHB does who doesn’t occasionally catch one of those.
DHB has never caught one, and truth be told, if he did catch it, it wouldn’t have been any type of highlight reel catch.
It hit both of his forearms!! Two forearms = no catch in the world of DHB. Never has, probably never will.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Weather the db caught it or not is beside the point, bad decision , bad throw.
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The Gardowski guys are dug in deep mayne. Let them have their entertainment while it lasts.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Whatever. We are 1-3, and look to finish the year at 6-10 at best. Im not going to continue to argue about our rookie middle linebacker. The way I see it ALL 53 players lost the game. The ENTIRE coaching staff screwed up. The ENTIRE team top to bottom is NOT playing winning football. To try and infer a players commitment from a 2 sentence statement seems ridiculous to me.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:15 am
ROMAC and HOUSTON destroy the texans drive! great pressure and a tackle at the line of scrimmage, by houston, and romac diagnosed the screen and blows it up.
If you are relying on rookies to win you will have along season some one else needs to step up on defense in this game. the two dropped ints by area 21 ands cj really have hurt. defense needs to make some take aways.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:16 am
The Gardowski guys are dug in deep mayne. Let them have their entertainment while it lasts.
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Were you not entertained in the 4th quarter?
Hell you were the first one predicting a Bruce comeback, down 17.
You are a Gardkowski guy on gameday, and a hater on the weekdays, lol.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:17 am
As long as somewhat rights the ship, he should be OK down the road.
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JFB, just FYI
the Raiders are ranked 31st in Run Defense (we were 29th last year!) giving up 162 rushing yards per game
the Jaguars are ranked 12th in Run Defense, giving up 101 rushing yards per game …
October 6th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Wow. McClain was such a stud a couple of weeks ago. What happened?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:19 am
McClain was such a stud a couple of weeks ago. What happened?
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MR,
he fooled around with his cousin. what are your thoughts on that?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:20 am
You still dont think marcel reece can play? he is doing a good job lead blocking ( good enough), and he is a weapon catching and running.
Great play call fooled the texans badly.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:21 am
LMAO at JHILL getting called out and got caught!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Hell you were the first one predicting a Bruce comeback, down 17.
You are a Gardkowski guy on gameday, and a hater on the weekdays, lol.
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LOL!
You were obviously faded! I was asking YOU if you were going to predict a Bruce comeback.
I’m on record as a Bruce is a backup. Make no mistake about it!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Shavonn Branch has been our starting SS for the past 2 years and she has exactly 1 pick. Has anyone ever remembered anything good she has ever done at the SS position? I can’t recall one strong hit on anyone. All I remember is Shavonn running and trying to catch up to the runner down the field.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:23 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:12 am
You can call it a bad throw, it certainly wasn’t a good throw, but there isn’t a WR in the NFL that makes as much money as the DHB does who doesn’t occasionally catch one of those.
DHB has never caught one, and truth be told, if he did catch it, it wouldn’t have been any type of highlight reel catch.
It hit both of his forearms!! Two forearms = no catch in the world of DHB. Never has, probably never will.
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Im sorry pulling up from a dead run, jumping back into and over the top of the db, to pull it off of the db’s back, qualifies for a highlight catch! Asking your wides to make this a routine play is asking too much! you cant blame DHB for this play!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:25 am
LMAO at JHILL getting called out and got caught!!!!
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Getting caught????
Are you 5?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Mike mitchell in perfect coverage position, and can it be a safety makes the tackle!!!! Give mm34 more run instead ofbranch at the strong spot.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:26 am
after 4 games:
McClain has 24 tackles (15 solo)
Morrison has 25 tackles (21 solo)
$40 million well spent !!!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:27 am
mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Mike mitchell in perfect coverage position, and can it be a safety makes the tackle!!!!
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Hey something we agree upon!!!
Cheers
October 6th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Grads cant see over the pass rush holds the ball and tries to get to the outside, but is sacked! Poor grads just wasnt built to make the play that a pro qb should be able to make.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:28 am
You were obviously faded!
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How can you not be watching this team??
The extra hour (games start at 2:15pm) makes it more reasonable to be wasted at kickoff, and an angry drunk at the end of the game.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:30 am
You got caught with your hand in the cookie jar by JFB buddy. Bashing Bruce during the week and then hoping for an Almighty comeback on Sunday. LMAO!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Randy Moss back to the Vikings??? New England does it again. Im surprised they didnt trade him back to the Raiders for a 1st rnd pick in 2012.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:32 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
JFB,
Is Gardowski going to pull something outta his arsse here and add to the legend?
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How the hell is this post predicting Gardowski is going to do something?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:34 am
the Raiders are ranked 31st in Run Defense (we were 29th last year!) giving up 162 rushing yards per game
the Jaguars are ranked 12th in Run Defense, giving up 101 rushing yards per game …
after 4 games:
McClain has 24 tackles (15 solo)
Morrison has 25 tackles (21 solo)
$40 million well spent !!!
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any thoughts from the McLame crowd ???
October 6th, 2010 at 10:34 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
J,
Bruce time???
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I asked you that at the start of the qtr, lol!
Way to NOT go out on a limb for you boy.
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Make no mistake about it, I am NOT a Gardowski fan!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:35 am
J,
When I said “Bruce time” about 10 minutes after your above post, you called me out saying you called it earlier or something like that.
It’s OK, you can admit that you anticipated Bruce doing what Bruce does, play his best with his back against the wall.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:35 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Gardowski is TRIPPIN taking these hits.
WTF is he doing ?!?!?!
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J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 2:58 pm
FunkTown6thAve Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Bruce is dead…
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LOL!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:35 am
OK….well again reference the “faded” part and added hour before kickoff, lol.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:37 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Houston will run the clock out now, game over.
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Gardowski comeback prediction????
LMFAO!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:37 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:34 am
the Raiders are ranked 31st in Run Defense (we were 29th last year!) giving up 162 rushing yards per game
the Jaguars are ranked 12th in Run Defense, giving up 101 rushing yards per game …
after 4 games:
McClain has 24 tackles (15 solo)
Morrison has 25 tackles (21 solo)
$40 million well spent !!!
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any thoughts from the McLame crowd ???
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RoBusta, LOL! How quick the mighty fall.
Now Groves play on the other hand, gets me steamed.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Raider fans were so proud when he slammed a 170 pound white slot receiver to the ground (which the NFL fined him for) and extended the Rams drive that resulted in a TD thanks to that 15 yard penalty …
is that all you guys have to hang your hat on after 4 games?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:38 am
A disaterous final two drives of the half for grads. the defense is playing well enough and stops the texans on two staright drives with solid pressure on the qb ( schaub throws the ball away several times to avoid the sack), and excellent coverage behind the pressure! Romac blows up the pass protection, mitchell with good coverage, our youngsters look really good.!
Grads misses jlh in the deep flat that would have put us in field goal range, instead he throws at dmacs feet. Grads has happy feet and isnt going through all of his reads. Granted this is probably a result of not trusting the pass protection. But holding the ball for a strip sack in scoring range gong into the half….horrendous!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:35 am
OK….well again reference the “faded” part and added hour before kickoff, lol.
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Where’s your ball slobber AIG?
Wonder what he has to say about your retraction?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Without going into detail about ’scheme’ or individual players ability, two things stand out to me about why this defense is anemic.
Number 1 is that this team never forces a turnover. You don’t see opposing RBs getting stripped or made to fumble. The secondary doesn’t come up with picks. The only turnovers the Raids have gotten have been muffed punts. This defense is simply not opportunistic. At this rate the Raids will have one of the NFL’s worst take away ratios.
Number 2 is that this defense rarely comes up with what Ronnie Lott used to call a ‘woooo’ hit. There’s just no intimidators or big hitters on the field. How many hard hits can you think of thus far ? Groves on a punt return ? Branch last week on a falling RB ? Seymour last week with a high hard tackle at the los ?
I mean, there’s just no real consistent bopping or fear instilling hitting coming from these guys. Been a Raider fan for 40 years now and I can honestly say we’ve never had what I’d consider to be a truly dominating defense like the Steel curtain, 85 Bears, or Ravens….but one thing you could count on in the old days is that the Raids were gonna hit hard. Now we’re ecstatic if guys can just be in the right spot and actually tackle.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:40 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Tommy Kelly lost all that weight and is less effective this year than he was last year.
INCREDIBLE!
He’s playing the 3 tech with Seymour at NT getting all the attention, and he still is invisible.
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This one is for RRS and Bauce, lol.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:41 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Grads cant see over the pass rush holds the ball and tries to get to the outside, but is sacked! Poor grads just wasnt built to make the play that a pro qb should be able to make.
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of course he could pull a Jason Campbell, which is either kneel down, like a coward, or butt slide, short of the 1st down.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:41 am
So, guys. What happened to McClain? After he made that dumb tackle against the Rams, that nearly cost us the game with a penalty, people were calling him a stud, saying he was one of the next greats, etc. Now people are saying he’s soft? What happened?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:41 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Raider fans were so proud when he slammed a 170 pound white slot receiver to the ground (which the NFL fined him for) and extended the Rams drive that resulted in a TD thanks to that 15 yard penalty …
is that all you guys have to hang your hat on after 4 games?
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I do remember a couple of DROY predictions floating around here last summer.
Anyone still thinking that?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:42 am
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Interception coming up. Put Campbell in.
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Called it.
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Yes he did!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Poor mistic, still making his case for Campbell. Is anyone still listening to him? I’ve been ignoring him since yesterday. How many times can you state the obvious to him? Everyone knows Gradkowski is the best QB we have.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Tommy Kelly lost all that weight and is less effective this year than he was last year.
INCREDIBLE!
He’s playing the 3 tech with Seymour at NT getting all the attention, and he still is invisible.
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another lucid post from Jhill!
you’re on a roll today
October 6th, 2010 at 10:44 am
J Hill Says:
October 3rd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
JFB,
Is Gardowski going to pull something outta his arsse here and add to the legend?
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Why do you use the words “add to the legend” when you think he’s a worthless POS QB on our roster? LMAO!!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Scrolling back through the game day posts are hilarious!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:45 am
We just need to combine Mistic1 and Debo.
Debo loves him some Jamarcus, but hates Campbell.
Mistic loves him some Campbell, but was not a fan of Jamarcus.
Both despise the thought of Bruce Gradkowski.
If we could co-mingle them, at least they would be half right sometimes.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Why do you use the words “add to the legend”
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Is English your 2nd language?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:46 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:34 am
the Raiders are ranked 31st in Run Defense (we were 29th last year!) giving up 162 rushing yards per game
the Jaguars are ranked 12th in Run Defense, giving up 101 rushing yards per game …
after 4 games:
McClain has 24 tackles (15 solo)
Morrison has 25 tackles (21 solo)
$40 million well spent !!!
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any thoughts from the McLame crowd ???
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Macclaine is a rookie, still learning in his first, and although he hasnt made any huge plays, he is making steady plays. he hasnt even begun to scratch the surface of his talent, once he can let his instincts take over he will be one of the best. he actually made several good plays in the texan game as well. he is making plays in the hole and in the backfield, capt. kirk never did that. Capt. Kirk has already maxed out his potential. Romac is playing better for us than kirk did already.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:47 am
if Jhill called Grads a “legend” i’m sure he was being sarcastic … like when I compared Mike Bush to Ron Dayne
October 6th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Morning peoples!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:49 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:46 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:34 am
the Raiders are ranked 31st in Run Defense (we were 29th last year!) giving up 162 rushing yards per game
the Jaguars are ranked 12th in Run Defense, giving up 101 rushing yards per game …
after 4 games:
McClain has 24 tackles (15 solo)
Morrison has 25 tackles (21 solo)
$40 million well spent !!!
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any thoughts from the McLame crowd ???
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Macclaine is a rookie, still learning in his first, and although he hasnt made any huge plays, he is making steady plays. he hasnt even begun to scratch the surface of his talent, once he can let his instincts take over he will be one of the best. he actually made several good plays in the texan game as well. he is making plays in the hole and in the backfield, capt. kirk never did that. Capt. Kirk has already maxed out his potential. Romac is playing better for us than kirk did already.
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Capt. Kirk is GONE!
ROMAC is A Raider!
GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Romac is playing better for us than kirk did already.
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did you completely ignore the stats you included in your response to me ???
LOL!
JFB is McClain’s biggest fan and he’s even quiet right now.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:50 am
I’m baffled by this McClain discussion. After that Rams game, he was the next Rod Martin in here. Now a lot of fans seem to have him on the chopping block. Wow.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:50 am
# The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Poor mistic, still making his case for Campbell. Is anyone still listening to him? I’ve been ignoring him since yesterday. How many times can you state the obvious to him? Everyone knows Gradkowski is the best QB we have.
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Wrong as usual, i have not mentioned the other qb at all. I do see what another poster said is true, we are leaving lots of points on the field, and with better qb play could have the lead going into the half.
No excuses just the facts.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:47 am
if Jhill called Grads a “legend” i’m sure he was being sarcastic … like when I compared Mike Bush to Ron Dayne
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Sad you have to explain that.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:50 am
good morning DMAC!
Chaz will be ready by Week 16
October 6th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Rockstar,
Yes so far you have been somewhat right on Rolando. Big ups as the kids say.
However, tough to compare a sample size of 6 years to 4 games don’t you think? If in two years he is playing at a Pro Bowl level, than that $40 million is well spent, no?
BTW, Russell Okung and Gerald McCoy were drafted ahead of McClain and haven’t done squat either.
In there case, is this a questionable $50 million spent?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:52 am
JHILL,
If you think he’s worthless why do you even bother to ask if he’s going to generate a comeback? Why didnt you just flat out say he’s gonna sck here! As Will Clark said about this to Rafael Palmeiro on his denial of steroid use…You got caught buddy!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Yes so far you have been somewhat right on Rolando. Big ups as the kids say.
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I guess that’ll do (for now)
October 6th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Wassup RRS
Chaz and Nick will be ready Week 16.
What the hell….
Gallery will be back week 16 too.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Bruce Campbell will see some action Week 16 also.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:54 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Romac is playing better for us than kirk did already.
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did you completely ignore the stats you included in your response to me ???
LOL!
JFB is McClain’s biggest fan and he’s even quiet right now.
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Its no surprise kirk has more tackles, he is a vet, and romac is on a learning curve.
Rush defense is about more than just the mlb, its also the dline, and for our defense it also the safety.
Team rush defense stats cant be attributed to one player.
Romac is making plays we never saw kirk make. The goal line stone wall on beanie wells last week, is something we never saw morrison do.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:54 am
I do see what another poster said is true, we are leaving lots of points on the field, and with better qb play could have the lead going into the half.
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That would be me sir. Went through the same drill you’re going through right now.
I actually felt a lot better about the team after rewatching it though.. We should’ve easily been up at least 6 pts at the half. Gardowski did a much better job of targeting the RBs and TE, but still forced it to the WRs which tends to get him in trouble.
If Gardowski continues on his, eh hmmm, checkdown path instead of forcing it to DHB, then this offense will continue to put up at least 24 pts a game.
The real issue with this team is the S play. BOTH of them!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:55 am
# The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Poor mistic, still making his case for Campbell. Is anyone still listening to him? I’ve been ignoring him since yesterday. How many times can you state the obvious to him? Everyone knows Gradkowski is the best QB we have.
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ignoring him since yesterday? you followed him around for 12 hrs yesterday, and will probably do the same today.
hows the job search doing?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:55 am
I love the notion of leaving points on the field.
Someone in here, I believe JHill, said we left 14-21 points on the field.
So with no O-line, Tom Cable as coach and suspect WR’s, Bruce is SUPPOSED TO HANG 35+ points, just to play well?
What happens if he does play really well? 40+ points? Maybe 50??
Get a grip!!! 24-34 points is this offenses limit, with whoever at QB, as long as the D provides zero turnovers and the punt returner averages 4 feet a return.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Kelly will have his first tackle Week 16!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:56 am
DHB will have his first TD reception of the year, week 16!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Chaz and Nick will be ready Week 16.
What the hell….
Gallery will be back week 16 too.
Bruce Campbell will see some action Week 16 also.
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DMAC -
John Henderson must have the same Podiatrist as Chaz Schilens!
trade Nick Miller for a good Podiatrist!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:56 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:52 am
JHILL,
If you think he’s worthless why do you even bother to ask if he’s going to generate a comeback?
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Are you really still on this???
Ok, AIG
I really like Gardowski. He is the man!
Can we move on now?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Someone in here, I believe JHill, said we left 14-21 points on the field.
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Cmon man!
What is with you today?
14-21 pts ???!?!?!
You’re going to get AIG riled up again, lol!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Trade Nick Miller for a Wes Walker game time cleat!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:59 am
McClain has 24 tackles (15 solo)
Morrison has 25 tackles (21 solo)
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Interesting Rock…. Lets look further though OK
Jacksonville Starting DLine:
Derrick Harvey – 3 Tackles
Tyson Alualu – 9 Tackles
Terrance Knighton – 6 Tackles
Aaron Kampman – 9 Tackles
All other DLineman – 4 Tackles
31 total tackles by dlineman
Oakland Starting DLine:
Lamaar Houston – 7 Tackles
Richard Seymour – 17 Tackles (missed a game too)
Tommy Kelly – 14 Tackles
Trevor Scott – 5 Tackles
All other DLineman – 22 Tackles
65 Total Tackles by DLineman
So… by stats alone Our DLine is accounting for more than twice as many tackles and Our MLB has 1 less tackle than Morrison? Seems to me our DLine is just better which is the difference. I would also argue that Jacksonville is giving up a full point per game more than we are.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Report is that Moss berated a coach at halftime.
Man that Monday nighter had some implications.
Dolphins ST coach gets canned, Moss has no receptions, yells at a coach and gets traded.
Meanwhile, Seabass gets a hug, our lines get a motivational talk, and the only D-lineman who barely played (Alford) gets the axe.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Rush defense is about more than just the mlb, its also the dline
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Mistic, you got it!
so basically McClain is in a position to fail because the interior D-Line sucks
right ???
so why wasn’t it addressed?
McClain behind crappy DT’s = non factor against the run
your eyes have now been opened. you’re welcome
October 6th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Mistic, do you honestly expect any of us to believe that you’re not doing this to shill for Campbell?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:00 am
That is ugly run defense! lamar houston, holds his spot, romac presses the blocker into the hole, tammy kelly also presses the hole, they funnel the rb right to where the strong safety should be, you guessed it branch out of position. Make it worse huff whiffs on another tackle.
Rotate branch and huff, and get brown and mm34 in now!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:01 am
J,
Well how many points did you say he left on the field?
I could have sworn I saw the 14-21 comment, and I wasn’t faded that time.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:02 am
McClain will be alright. He had one bad game. He’ll bounce back. How many bad games has Kelly, Scott,Branch, and Huff had this season?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Seems to me our DLine is just better which is the difference.
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BCZ, so we have a better DL than the Jags and Morrison is still outplaying McClain?
I’m not surprised bro. thanks for the insight
October 6th, 2010 at 11:03 am
satele runs right pass the dtackle and blocks noone!! Dmac gets nailed inthe backfield!!! cable your done at the end of the year.
On the bright side veldeheer looks good.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:04 am
DMAC:
regarding Kelly & Seymour
a better question would be “how many GOOD games have they had in a Raider uniform?”
October 6th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I think someone suggested we move CJ to free safety the other day. I think thats a great idea.
FS – CJ or Brown
CB’s – Nnanmdi, Routt, Huff
SS – Mitchell or Brown
October 6th, 2010 at 11:06 am
FS – CJ or Brown
CB’s – Nnanmdi, Routt, Huff
SS – Mitchell or Brown
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what about Tyvon Branch?
Al Davis traded up to get him!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:06 am
God forbid we ever get a decent Oline and some WR’s that can catch for Bruce. There are those on here that thinks if we give him these tools he would truly sck! LMAO. I have never seen a QB plays worst with better tools and play better with worst tools. The logic for some of you is hilarious.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:08 am
is it basketball season yet?
Go Heat!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:08 am
RRS,
Seymour had a few solid games…
Kelly is garabage. Was ok when he played DE early in his career. The only thing I can rememebr about Kelly is this…. (and I’m not gay)
http://no4corners.com/life/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kelly-smh.jpg
October 6th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Oh yeah, Branch can play corner.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:09 am
# SammyTheBull Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:41 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Grads cant see over the pass rush holds the ball and tries to get to the outside, but is sacked! Poor grads just wasnt built to make the play that a pro qb should be able to make.
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of course he could pull a Jason Campbell, which is either kneel down, like a coward, or butt slide, short of the 1st down.
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LOL! We go through this every day it seems.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Grads is operating behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL and even with a poor WR corps is still putting up points.
He’s turning dog food into filet mignon, and there’s still some myopic idiots here complaining about poor QB play.
Besides his failure to call a time out in Az, he’s been stellar.
Got news for you Grads detractors, he’s the heart and soul of this team. There’s absolutely no hope for the 2010 Raids without him. If he goes down it’s back to 10 points a game and 30 point blow out losses.
End of story.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Bruce has a higher QB rating than Brett Favre and Joe Flacco this year.
Give him Michael Oher, the rest of that O-line, and Boldin and Housh, a defense that gets turnovers and good field position, and he would be in the top 10-12 in QB rating.
I guarantee it.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:03 am
satele runs right pass the dtackle and blocks noone!! Dmac gets nailed inthe backfield!!!
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It is a guaranty that this is going to happen to at least one Raider o-lineman every game. Satele was not alone missing blocks.
I was amazed by the lack of penalties, I will call it an anomaly, and wait until next week. Cables wind sprint punishment is working wonders. Though maybe a few more wind sprints would cut through the fog of “hammygate”.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:11 am
http://no4corners.com/life/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kelly-smh.jpg
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what are Howard & Branch looking at in that photo ???
October 6th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Yeah. Thats what I said Rock… You are as bad as RealWhinyCharger when it comes to twisting peoples words around.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:12 am
# The Real GradkowskiRaider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Mistic, do you honestly expect any of us to believe that you’re not doing this to shill for Campbell?
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Lmafao!!!!!!
I couldnt give two squirts of piss about what you believe!
That is the difference between us, knowledge is superior to belief. I have watch have a knowledgeable take, you are operating on belief blind faith and hope. This is why you haven’t posted one thing that makes you sound like you have the slightest clue about football.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Amazing that Schaubb has the third most sacks in the NFL, and yet we could barely sniff him all game.
WTF!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Gotta love everybody always hating on the safeties! Where is that ol’ punching bag Stu?…
October 6th, 2010 at 11:12 am
I guarantee it.
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JFB, did you just recently buy a suit at the Men’s Warehouse or something ???
October 6th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:01 am
J,
Well how many points did you say he left on the field?
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Same thing I said in post 581!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I agree, I’d like to see a rotational Safety lineup. On running downs MM34 and TB33.
On passing downs MH24, and TB33.
I also like the 3 Safety looks. Granted it’s possible MM34 was playing a little LB on Sunday, if you watch the games over, you’d see that when we had 3 safeties of=n the field, our defense played rather well.
I am not ready to give up on Huff or Branch, but would like to see Brown and MM34 get some reps.
Also wouldn’t mind Seymour and Houston position swapping occasionally.
Trevor Scott should not, I repeat SHOULD NOT be playing on running downs. Instead of stretching plays out, he’s trying to go upfield and thus making other guys switch their own responsibilities.
Believe me, I played RDE in HS, and honestly I sucked at it, because I wanted to get after the QB. I went back to LB and played very well.
My point being, that you must be disciplined to play an end position. You must stop going up field and move more laterally. This is what I was coached. Believe me, they ran my way on purpose just to yell at my a$$. However it just didn’t change my mentality, I still wanted to kill the QB and when they ran a running play, I was out of position more times than not.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:15 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Grads is operating behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL and even with a poor WR corps is still putting up points.
He’s turning dog food into filet mignon, and there’s still some myopic idiots here complaining about poor QB play.
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Didn’t you know? When the O-line fails in blocking for DMAC, he gets a pass. But when the O-line fails for Bruce, he is supposed to make some magic. Read post 597. lol…
October 6th, 2010 at 11:15 am
You are as bad as Jhill when it comes to twisting peoples words around
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BCZ, round here we like to call that a plethora of propaganda
don’t we Banana?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Texans waived OG Shelley Smith.
He’ll likely be re-signed to the practice squad. A developmental sixth-round pick out of Colorado State, he wasn’t getting any run on the active roster.
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I don’t know who this guy is, but he might be better than any O-linemen we have.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
What???? Please tell me you are drunk.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Bruce has a higher QB rating than Brett Favre and Joe Flacco this year.
Give him Michael Oher, the rest of that O-line, and Boldin and Housh, a defense that gets turnovers and good field position, and he would be in the top 10-12 in QB rating.
I guarantee it.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
I am not ready to give up on Huff or Branch, but would like to see Brown and MM34 get some reps.
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NE is back!
what do all the Patsie fans think about trading Moss away?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
DMAC
Why would you want Branch to play CB? Routt is doing very well on the outside. We have seen routt play the outside well over the years and struggle in the slot. We have also seen CJ37 play the slot better than he does the outside. Also, huff will be the guy to move to CB, not Branch.
By the way, how’s the Hammy? We’ll have to wait until after the bye week to see you again, I’m guessing.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Texans waived OG Shelley Smith.
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DMAC, who in the world names thier son Shelley ???
October 6th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Grads is operating behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL and even with a poor WR corps is still putting up points.
He’s turning dog food into filet mignon, and there’s still some myopic idiots here complaining about poor QB play.
Besides his failure to call a time out in Az, he’s been stellar.
Got news for you Grads detractors, he’s the heart and soul of this team. There’s absolutely no hope for the 2010 Raids without him. If he goes down it’s back to 10 points a game and 30 point blow out losses.
End of story.
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Grads throws a horrible can of cream corn that wobbles into quadruple coverage?!?!?!?! The ball is tipped by the linebacker zoning underneath and ends up in the hands of the db!
This is certainly not stellar play!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Yes, when Satele missed a block for Darren, Cable should be fired.
When Walker misses a block that leads to a fumble, Grads is costing us the game and leaving points on the field.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:19 am
When your defense give up 30 pts a game, the QB talk is just pure entertainment.
The holes at S HAVE to be plugged!!!!
Ok, the DT makes a mistake, should be a 5 yd run.
LB outta position, 10-15 td run.
Below average S play = TDs for the other team. It just takes ONE bad play from the S to = 7 pts.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Because he’s never where he’s suppose to be + has played well when covering receivers or RB’s in the slot.
Branch is having a horrible season thus far.
CJ is an excellent tackler. Give him a shot.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Unreal branch and huff having a worse game than they had in AZ!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:20 am
lol. That’s right RRS. It’s called a “plethora of propaganda”. It’s in here every day.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
RRs
Over here, they’re all over Moss. It’s like that. When you do well, you’re the best ever, now they’re hating. Week 2, I went on my porch to take a few hits during a commercial and I here my neighbor screaming ” Oh what a catch” ” Randy Moss is fuggin nasty” Then I see him Monday and he starts all this randy Moss hype. Today, it was a good deal, Moss isn’t what he used to be, he didn’t catch a ball last game, yada, yada,yada.
One thing you must know RRS, the NE/BOS fans are the MOST front running, fair weather, bandwagoning fans there are.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
For those still doing the Grads and JC argument. It’s not even a comparison. Those doing it must not have watched the first two games.
If we had Campbell in there against Houston we would’ve been blown out just like the first game.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:17 am
What???? Please tell me you are drunk.
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Hey he is only 9 spots away from #12, and he does not have the options Flacco has.
IMO, improve just about every QB’s, WR’s, O-line and Field position to Baltimore Ravens level, and it will add close to 7-8 ranking in the QB ratings rankings.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
BB you make good points man but I just don’t see Grads being a very good QB. I think he is a very good back up coming off the bench and he manages the game decent under fire. He reminds me alot of Charlie Bach in Pitts when he would back up Big Ben. He won games, managed the game well but did not have the talent to be a prolific QB in the league. It is not that they stink, they just don’t have the “it factor” like the big name QBs in the NFL. You will mostly hear he played good games, not he played great games!!!
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The Big Banana Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:15 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Grads is operating behind perhaps the worst OL in the NFL and even with a poor WR corps is still putting up points.
He’s turning dog food into filet mignon, and there’s still some myopic idiots here complaining about poor QB play.
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Didn’t you know? When the O-line fails in blocking for DMAC, he gets a pass. But when the O-line fails for Bruce, he is supposed to make some magic. Read post 597. lol…
October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Grads throws a horrible can of cream corn that wobbles into quadruple coverage?!?!?!?! The ball is tipped by the linebacker zoning underneath and ends up in the hands of the db!
Quadruple coverage!??!?!! How many guys were open on this play?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:22 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Texans waived OG Shelley Smith.
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DMAC, who in the world names thier son Shelley ???
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Dave Duncan…(Cardinals pitching coach)
Named his son Shelley
(Ugly son of b_itch too!)
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/AvYuZRB8gv4/New+York+Yankees+Photo+Day/siP63sZCUiE/Shelley+Duncan
October 6th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Dmac our best weapon, pulls a hammy again!!! we must lead the entire world in hammy pulls!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:23 am
J-hill just said it best, every person in here that talks about grads committing turnovers and losing us the game are idiots…IDIOTS…MORONS…..Our defense sucks!!! this is like 2004 all over again, score points but our defense wont get turnovers and wont stop the run, they suck..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:24 am
And we should trade for a WR since we failed to sign anyone over the entire off season. Vikings just got Moss for a 3rd round pick.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Mistic1, lol probly only one other guy running a route on that quadruple coverage pic, it was a play action max protection that was called
October 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hill
What do you suggest we do at Safety. I really wanna see MM34 play more. Lets see what he can do. if he sux, he sux, whatever, but give him some time. The intimidation factor is huge in this league, look at JLH. After MM blew up Forcett, what happened on the next play? A drop.
I am certain huff isn’t scaring anybody trying to grab their hands, and sometimes their head to try to tackle them
October 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am
The Grads vs JC argument has been impressive. Its been 50 vs Mistic1, and Mistic1 has held his own using a bunch of slippery arguments. I tip my hat Mistic, keep on battling! ooooooooooooooooo yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am
BRUCE IS OUR STARTER…..
GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Half of Grad’s interceptions are from balls bounding off the Receiver’s chest/hands and going then being intercepted.
The only thing you can do about that is throw to RBs and Zach Miller all day. Well, actually….when he did that look…he completed like 90% of his passes to those two and like 10% to the WRs. We need better WRs. Even with our CRAP O-Line we still are dangerous. If we had someone who could get open and catch…..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:26 am
new englandraider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I agree, I’d like to see a rotational Safety lineup. On running downs MM34 and TB33.
On passing downs MH24, and TB33.
I also like the 3 Safety looks. Granted it’s possible MM34 was playing a little LB on Sunday, if you watch the games over, you’d see that when we had 3 safeties of=n the field, our defense played rather well.
I am not ready to give up on Huff or Branch, but would like to see Brown and MM34 get some reps.
Also wouldn’t mind Seymour and Houston position swapping occasionally.
Trevor Scott should not, I repeat SHOULD NOT be playing on running downs. Instead of stretching plays out, he’s trying to go upfield and thus making other guys switch their own responsibilities.
Believe me, I played RDE in HS, and honestly I sucked at it, because I wanted to get after the QB. I went back to LB and played very well.
My point being, that you must be disciplined to play an end position. You must stop going up field and move more laterally. This is what I was coached. Believe me, they ran my way on purpose just to yell at my a$$. However it just didn’t change my mentality, I still wanted to kill the QB and when they ran a running play, I was out of position more times than not.
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This is the Al Davis Scholarship Program at work here, IMO.
Why would they play Scott a WLB the enitre camp and the 3rd or 4th preseason game, play him at end.
He is the primary reason we got Seymour.
Scott can’t set the edde even if he was trying to move laterally.
He is a converted TE that Al sees as being a great pass rusher. Dude is a situational 34 OLB at best. And he was in for MOST of the big running plays last Sunday, getting pushed around.
Shaunessey is a FAR better player, more well rounded and a natural fit for 43 DE. This makes no sense.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Yes, when Satele missed a block for Darren, Cable should be fired.
When Walker misses a block that leads to a fumble, Grads is costing us the game and leaving points on the field.
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Ok, man … DAMN!!!!!
I can’t believe you are crying about this. YOU even said he held the ball too long. You can say it but we can’t?
We should have had at least a FG on that drive if he is not trying to go deep again. Keep going to Miller and Dmac!
Or how about pulling it down and scrambling?
Walker vs Mario Williams 1 on 1?!?!?!?
Why on earth would Grads think he could hold the ball that long?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:27 am
mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Dmac our best weapon, pulls a hammy again!!! we must lead the entire world in hammy pulls!
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He was gone on that play if he doesnt pull up lame right? I havent watched it again yet, but that was the “homerun” we have been waiting for I think.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Mistic you are right and if anyone did not see him throw into triple and double coverage at times during the game is full of BS. Stop it with this Grads bandwagon BS! He is a B- QB on his best day!
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mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Grads throws a horrible can of cream corn that wobbles into quadruple coverage?!?!?!?! The ball is tipped by the linebacker zoning underneath and ends up in the hands of the db!
Quadruple coverage!??!?!! How many guys were open on this play?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:28 am
edge*
October 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
bcz24 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:27 am
mistic1 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Dmac our best weapon, pulls a hammy again!!! we must lead the entire world in hammy pulls!
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He was gone on that play if he doesnt pull up lame right? I havent watched it again yet, but that was the “homerun” we have been waiting for I think.
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No, defense had the angle. He would have most likely went down on the play maybe another yard or two. I give him credit for trying to get to the corner.
Best player this year.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Bay
I agree, I’d rather see Shaughnessy at RDE, or is it Bruce Campbell who wears 77?
Joke, Gus Johnson called Matt S, Bruce campbell at least 3x Sunday
But yes, I would like to see Shaughnessy play more. Even a snap or two at a DT position, to give these scrubs a little breather.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
# Jmackraider12 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Mistic1, lol probly only one other guy running a route on that quadruple coverage pic, it was a play action max protection that was called
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Mistic1, You must first understand what you are looking at. He had two choices, throw it out of bounds or attempt to throw into tight coverage. Protection was breaking down around him. He chose the latter, same as a lot of other qb’s would do. It was not as bad a decision as you make it out to be.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:30 am
The defense, contrary to what i have been reading did plenty of blitzing, schaub was under pressure, although he wasnt sacked. The run defense shaky safety play, and, terrible qb play have doomed us!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Funny how only a year ago, people were posting ” well for the 1st time in a long time we don’t have to worry about the Safety position”
October 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Agreed! Line does suck but Grads should have let that ball go or through it out of bounce 2 seconds before he was hit. He held on to the ball way to long.
But don’t say that around the Grad lovers fan club.
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J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Yes, when Satele missed a block for Darren, Cable should be fired.
When Walker misses a block that leads to a fumble, Grads is costing us the game and leaving points on the field.
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Ok, man … DAMN!!!!!
I can’t believe you are crying about this. YOU even said he held the ball too long. You can say it but we can’t?
We should have had at least a FG on that drive if he is not trying to go deep again. Keep going to Miller and Dmac!
Or how about pulling it down and scrambling?
Walker vs Mario Williams 1 on 1?!?!?!?
Why on earth would Grads think he could hold the ball that long?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
i will take a B- qb over a c qb any day of the week…Grad takes chances, so what, you have to take chances to have success, campbell will take 1 chance a game and its a forced chance that kills momentum, grads better for our team as of now..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
new englandraider Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Hill
What do you suggest we do at Safety. I really wanna see MM34 play more.
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Me too!
That guy is playing really well when he’s on the field. Funny because I guess I believed the hype about the coaches not wanting him.
I’d like to see Branch get a shot a FS to see if the lack of run support responsibilities improves his pass coverage. When he’s not biting on the PA fake, he’s been decent.
Huff can take a seat as far as I’m concerned. Trade him if we can.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Branch – always out of position
Huff – can’t tackle
October 6th, 2010 at 11:33 am
While defensive tackle Richard Seymour suggested making some lineup changes after Sunday’s 31-24 loss, Raiders coach Tom Cable only questioned his team’s “desire.” The defensive personnel who gave up 249 rushing yards to Houston, at an astounding 6.9 yards-per-carry rate, aren’t facing any benchings.
“I think it’s the same group that I know can defend the run and has shown it can defend the run,” Cable said Monday. “So will we adjust some things, perhaps because of injury and all that? Yeah, but in terms of, do we have the right people and all that, yeah, we have the right people.”
-SF Gate
October 6th, 2010 at 11:33 am
What I want to know is what are we going to do about RBs? If both McF and Bennett are out with hammys than we only got Bush and Rock, well I guess Reece too, but is that really enough? Bush better be ready for a full load…
I’m not sure there’s any WRs our there in FA. Could we trade for one? But who? I don’t really see us doing it though, all decision making people seem to be happy with our 60%-70% catch rate WRs.
If any trades will be pulled, I would say let’s get Oline. I mean, if they don’t realize what big issue this is, I don’t know they should be coaching football. (this is not a knock on Cable, at least not yet, it’s just a general statement)
One thing about coaching, you can only teach someone so much, there is a point where all the teaching has to translate into action. That’s where the player comes in. Execution is big part of it. I would say close to 50-50, maybe 60-40 coaching.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Why on earth would Grads think he could hold the ball that long?
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Bad play, clock wasn’t ticking right. He left at least 3 on the field right before halftime. Big play.
Grads is definitely flustered out there because of the line. On occasion, he has more time than he thinks and he takes off running. Other times, he has zero time and he’s holding on to it.
I think we saw Grad get into a great rhythm after his INT (notice I said ‘his’). The ball was getting out quick and when there was no time thanks to O line, he threw it in the dirt.
The gameplan should be similar. Get Bush in screens and dump offs after clearing out the D with our outside speed, but the threat of the deep ball has to be there.
We made a mistake in not keeping the Texans honest early.
We HAVE to get a WR, any WR, the ball downfield. If the coverage is too tight or the routes aren’t strong enough, those plays have to be manufactored (sp?) closer to the LOS and let a great athlete make a play in space.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:35 am
And i have noticed that in every game grad has played he has become progressively more mature with our offense, his turnover rate should go down game by game, in the end hes a slinger, but he will realize his weapons underneath are just has important as his weapons are vertically, and that has shown game by game..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am
The Texans ran for 249 yards and averaged 6.9 yards per carry, numbers that surprised even Kubiak when he saw the stats at the post-game news conference.
“When you average seven yards a carry … holy smokes, I didn’t know that …” Kubiak said.
-SF Gate
October 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am
100% agree with both 656 and 657
October 6th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I don’t think anyone is saying put Camplunkett in the game. I think we realize that our defense is so bad that we need our offense to score more.
Gardowski is clearly the best option at QB, but to act like he is above criticism is ridiculous!
He needs to stop trying to make DHB and Murphy into stars. Stop doing stupid stuff like not sliding and getting your head knocked the F off. What good is it if he gets hurt and Campbell has to come in?
And stop underthrowing DHB when he behind the defense. You are only going to get so many PI calls!
PS – This does not mean I want to see Campbell!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I have no doubt that Huff will eventually find the bench on running downs, but Hi eugene will probably be the guy playing.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:38 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Half of Grad’s interceptions are from balls bounding off the Receiver’s chest/hands and going then being intercepted.
The only thing you can do about that is throw to RBs and Zach Miller all day. Well, actually….when he did that look…he completed like 90% of his passes to those two and like 10% to the WRs. We need better WRs. Even with our CRAP O-Line we still are dangerous. If we had someone who could get open and catch…..
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Isnt that what JC was doing and he was plastered for it. If we are going to have him in the game it is because of his chemistry with these wideouts. He was given the job partly because he was getting DHB and Murphy involved and he needs to continue to do so. He has had a lot of balls defelcted and picked but he has also had a lot of passes bounce off of defenders hands that shouldve been picked.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:39 am
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I don’t think anyone is saying put Camplunkett in the game. I think we realize that our defense is so bad that we need our offense to score more.
Gardowski is clearly the best option at QB, but to act like he is above criticism is ridiculous!
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It sure sounds like there are a couple that would put Camplunkett in ASAP.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:39 am
no O-line. no D-line. no safeties. no QBs. no LBs. no WRs. no hammies. 80’s defensive scheme.
5-11 gentlemen.
Out 4 lunch!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:40 am
no hammies. LMFAO
October 6th, 2010 at 11:40 am
590. Good point. Says something about the raider oganization doesn’t it though. The dolphins fire there special teams coach after that pathetic game Monday night. New England gets rid of moss cause he’s all about him and a cancer to any team he plays for. Meanwhile the raiders d is awfull. The oline is crap. Seabass I’m ok with I mean he made a field goal on Sunday. But anyway raiders do nothing about it. They just move people around out of there position hoping that will work. Why doesn’t Oakland start firing some people and holding them accountable for crappy play. I guess al just accepts it.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:41 am
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I don’t think anyone is saying put Camplunkett in the game. I think we realize that our defense is so bad that we need our offense to score more.
Gardowski is clearly the best option at QB, but to act like he is above criticism is ridiculous!
He needs to stop trying to make DHB and Murphy into stars. Stop doing stupid stuff like not sliding and getting your head knocked the F off. What good is it if he gets hurt and Campbell has to come in?
And stop underthrowing DHB when he behind the defense. You are only going to get so many PI calls!
PS – This does not mean I want to see Campbell!
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Thank You!!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Hill
Any reason why you call Grads “Gardowski” ????????
Fill me in bro. What does that mean????
October 6th, 2010 at 11:44 am
659
Julius Jones?????
October 6th, 2010 at 11:45 am
new post Huff haters!
October 6th, 2010 at 11:46 am
And I’m not saying that hes beyond criticism j-hill, he threw a pick and he rebounds, he throws another and he rebounds, hes not a pu$$y to be plain and simple, and that’s what we have had for the last 7yrs, pu$$y a$$ quarterbacks. Yeah i was pissed off after the 2nd time he didn’t slide that caused an injury, Campbell looked scared to go in, i would be too behind our o-line. From a business perspective its probably smart to keep your investment(campbell) on the bench and protect him from failure.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:35 am
And i have noticed that in every game grad has played he has become progressively more mature with our offense, his turnover rate should go down game by game, in the end hes a slinger, but he will realize his weapons underneath are just has important as his weapons are vertically, and that has shown game by game..
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I have noticed the opposite. He played great against the Rams, pretty good in Ariz, and pretty poorly last week (against the worst pass D in the league). In that rams game he got DHb and Murphy involved and they performed, same in Ariz (though he did force a lot of passes), but last week the WR’s were no involved at all and he made even more bad throws. I think the constant hits are having an affect on him and teams are just game planning to take away what he likes to do.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:49 am
im a huff hater right now, but i will soon be a eugene hater after he fu*ks up..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:50 am
As badly as defense played, we were still in position to win or at least tie. this game again was about the plays that we didnt make.
I notice that when the pressure is coming off the edge grads doesnt step up into the pocket 9 probably becuase he wont have throwing lanes due to his height. Instead he tries to break the pocket, this led to sacks , errant throws, and a grounding call. On the grounding call if he only was bale to step into the pocket he coukld have seen dhb once again streaking down the sideline wide open!
DHB and Murphy have to catch the last two passess. The one to dhb was behind him would have been a difficult catch, but one that nfl player has to make. he is still struggling with the physical part of the game, being able to adjust his body or get position with the ball in flight.
Murphy’s drop was ridiculous, he took his eye of the ball looking to see who was going to hit him.
This game didnt hvae to come down to the final play and another failed comeback attempt. better fundamental play and we win this game. O -line needs to block, recievers need to catch, defenders need to tackle, qb must protect the ball make sound decisions and hit guys when they are open.
Grads is 5-13 as a starter in the nfl.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:51 am
# severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:35 am
And i have noticed that in every game grad has played he has become progressively more mature with our offense, his turnover rate should go down game by game, in the end hes a slinger, but he will realize his weapons underneath are just has important as his weapons are vertically, and that has shown game by game..
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I have noticed the opposite. He played great against the Rams, pretty good in Ariz, and pretty poorly last week (against the worst pass D in the league). In that rams game he got DHb and Murphy involved and they performed, same in Ariz (though he did force a lot of passes), but last week the WR’s were no involved at all and he made even more bad throws. I think the constant hits are having an affect on him and teams are just game planning to take away what he likes to do.———————————————-
How is he not reacting well to hits when last week he hit more checkdowns than he has in all his games???He was smart and realized that we had NO TIME to hit our recievers, NO TIME, thats why miller had 11 catches and bush and mcfadden combined for around ten, and reece had sum too. your logic doesnt make sense.. The more he plays and realizes our line wont give him the deep ball he checks down, makes sense to me..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:54 am
But..im not going to lie, i am a lil curious to see how campbell can do, even if he does mess up, he did show signs in pre season… If he could get better in the system and get rid of the ball earlier he has the tools to be bettere then grads, grads at this point has the system down a lil better..
October 6th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:51 am
# severeraiderz Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 11:35 am
And i have noticed that in every game grad has played he has become progressively more mature with our offense, his turnover rate should go down game by game, in the end hes a slinger, but he will realize his weapons underneath are just has important as his weapons are vertically, and that has shown game by game..
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I have noticed the opposite. He played great against the Rams, pretty good in Ariz, and pretty poorly last week (against the worst pass D in the league). In that rams game he got DHb and Murphy involved and they performed, same in Ariz (though he did force a lot of passes), but last week the WR’s were no involved at all and he made even more bad throws. I think the constant hits are having an affect on him and teams are just game planning to take away what he likes to do.———————————————-
How is he not reacting well to hits when last week he hit more checkdowns than he has in all his games???He was smart and realized that we had NO TIME to hit our recievers, NO TIME, thats why miller had 11 catches and bush and mcfadden combined for around ten, and reece had sum too. your logic doesnt make sense.. The more he plays and realizes our line wont give him the deep ball he checks down, makes sense to me..
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But it didnt make sense when JC did the same????
October 6th, 2010 at 11:57 am
You fellas care to join us on the new thread?
October 6th, 2010 at 11:58 am
And i do have the fear in the back of my mind that teams will game plan for him and send those rushers up the middle to block his vision, his height is definitely his weakness, which sucks..they will realize he loves throwing in the seams to SLOT and TE guys, but we don’t know for sure what he is capable of, lets see how the next few games go..He definitely needs lanes to throw in, like garcia did..
October 12th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
broken wrist after the cast comes off…
Published on this site…