Don’t expect McFadden vs. Chargers
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 6th, 2010 at 4:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and quotes from Wednesday’s practice session, open locker session, conference calls with Chargers coach Norv Turner and quarterback Philip Rivers, and press briefing with coach Tom Cable:
– Cable is vague enough on the status of running back Darren McFadden that it seems likely the NFL’s No. 2 back in terms of yards and scrimmage (554) and first downs (26) won’t be available to face San Diego.
McFadden didn’t practice, and was seen working with the heavy ropes at one point during warm-ups and drills.
Cable repeated the right hamstring pull wasn’t as bad as McFadden’s left hamstring issue which cost him three weeks, but it’s doubtful the Raiders would risk making the injury worse playing their most productive player only seven days after the original injury.
“We expect the turnaround to be much shorter, so we’ll see,’’ Cable said.
With Michael Bennett also missing practice with a hamstring injury, expect a heavy dose of Michael Bush and Rock Cartwright against the Chargers. Regarding bringing in another running back, Cable said, “We’ll see.’’
– Linebacker Rolando McClain’s absence was explained as “a loss in his family’’ by Cable.
“He should be back by some time tomorrow,’’ Cable said.
—Left guard Robert Gallery was moving well with the training staff and Cable said he was “close’’ to getting on the field and wouldn’t rule him out against San Diego.
After having missed three games and having no contact during that time, be very surprised if Gallery plays. More likely, he’ll get in some serious practice time and hopefully face San Francisco.
– When cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha says San Diego quarterback Philip Rivers is “fearless’’ he says it knowing Rivers is one of the few quarterbacks to challenge him in past years.
In the past three games, Rivers completed a 46-yard pass to Vincent Jackson (with Asomugha drawing a flag) to the 7-yard line to set up a touchdown, hit Jackson with a 15-yard scoring pass in last year’s season opener, and converted a third-and-long opportunity to Chris Chambers into the sun in 2008.
“There’s a great deal of respect there,’’ Rivers told Bay Area reporters by conference call. “At the same time you have to let plays develop and go through your reads. As a quarterback you can’t completely count out that option.’’
With Jackson sitting out the season because of a contract dispute, Asomugha could find himself with a lot of responsibility on Chargers tight end, who has 24 receptions for 386 yards (16.1 average) and six touchdowns in four games.
Rivers said he wouldn’t be surprised to see Asomugha on Gates.
Said Asomugha: “In the past three or four years, there have been games where I’ve been on him a good amount of time.’’
— Cable said linebacker Trevor Scott has been moved back to weak side linebacker because of the injuries to Quentin Groves (hamstring) and Thomas Howard (knee).
Matt Shaughnessy will become the starter at right end and take a lot more snaps.
— Chargers coach Norv Turner was 0-4 against San Diego and 1-11 against the AFC West as the Raiders head coach. In San Diego, he’s 6-0 against the Raiders and 15-4 in the division.
But good luck getting him to crow about it.
“It’s hard to beat a team in your division twice a year, so, yeah, it does feel good, but this Raiders team is doing good things, they’ve got a good rhythm offensively,’’ Turner said. “We were up there last year and had to win on the last play of the game. We know it’s going to be a heck of a challenge.’’
– Linebacker Bruce Davis fits into the current Raider mold of linebacker _ players who have the pass rush skills and physicality of defensive ends who are playing off the line of scrimmage.
“Kamerion’s (Wimbley) a backer then a rusher. Trevor’s a backer then a rusher,’’ Cable said. “So you kind of have the same thing here. Quentin Groves, same thing. He’s a backer then he’s a rusher. I think that hybrid type guy just adds another one to that group.”
The question still to be answered is whether the hybrids can play in space in terms of making one-on-one tackles and covering receivers.
— Davis said he was surprised to learn some of the long-standing employees of the Raiders remember him from the days when his father Bruce played for the Raiders from 1979 to 1987.
“I was really young. I left here when I was 2 years old,’’ Davis said. “I don’t have much memory of that but I’ve run into some people here and they seem to remember me when I was a little kid. It’s a little strange for them to see me without a diaper on.’’
Having been drafted by Pittsburgh (and cut) and gone through indoctrinations with New England, Denver and San Francisco without sticking, Davis said he’s a quick study with a playbook.
Cable was offensive coordinator at UCLA when Davis was a dominant defensive end. He thinks Davis can contribute on special teams immediately.
– Right tackle Langston Walker believes the offense has responded to quarterback Bruce Gradkowski’s high-energy style.
“He’s definitely a fiery guy and I think most quarterbacks, you want them to be the strong, silent type,’’ Walker said. “But Bruce will go out there and mix it up. He doesn’t always slide, which isn’t the greatest thing, but it just shows you something. Shows you about his character.”
– Gradkowski said his right shoulder was fine and he met the media as the starting quarterback. He was listed as being “limited’’ along with tight end Zach Miller (hip), and linebacker Ricky Brown (hamstring).
Those who did not practice were Gallery (hamstring), John Henderson (stress fracture), linebacker Travis Goethel (lower back), Groves (hamstring), Howard (knee), cornerback Walter McFadden (hamstring) and cornerback Jeremy Ware (ankle).
Henderson’s stress fracture was apparently diagnosed Monday, and according to Cable, is a “three to six week’’ deal from the time of the diagnosis.
“It’s not a bad deal, but because he’s a big man, it tends to sometimes take longer, so we’ll see.’’
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October 6th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
1st
October 6th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
2nd we are screwed
October 6th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
909 Thanks
But I didnt even hear about any tornados.
I am in Northwest AZ
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AZ Raider Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
It’s all about Superbowls. Winning records are fluff and mean nothing. Just ask the current Dallas Cowboys and Jerry jones if that statment doesn’t ring true.
Is this why you changed your handle?
October 6th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Fix the o-line win the division.
Get a real NT stop the run.
It’s not rocket science.
No QB on our roster or in this league will get us to the Superbowl with the tackles, guards, and center we have in the starting lineup on offense.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Oakland is super bowl or bust, always has been , always will be. We when we kick ass, when we lose we crash and burn in spectacular fashion.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
oops win
October 6th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Question? What do these names have in common? Nnamdi, Seabass, Woodson, Allen, Mosebar, *Wisniewski, Tim Brown? Answer. The only number one draft picks that have worked out since 1980. Technically Wis was a second round pick since Raiders didnt have a number one during that draft year. Something else in common? During the heyday of the early to mid 80’s Ron Wolf handled the majority of the scouting and the draft prior to free agency. In the late 90’s early 2000’s? Bruce Allen was aboard with Jon Gruden handling the personnel choices as well as free agency. Uncle Al. Give it up. If your idol offensive guru Sid Gilman (an icon in his time) were still alive, he would tell you to wake up and get with the times, turn the football operation over to a young dynamic football guy. An no, your last will and testament stating that the Raiders will continue to run a 4-3 with a deep free safety and no blitzing is unenforceable. Raider fans, thats it in a nutshell. Period. End of story
October 6th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Chargers coach Norv Turner was 0-4 against San Diego and 1-11 against the AFC West as the Raiders head coach. In San Diego, he’s 6-0 against the Raiders and 15-4 in the division.
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Poetry, I think that says it all.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Dont expect the Raiders to win Sunday. Chargers-38 Raiders-20
October 6th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Hopefully all is well with McClain and his fam….people forget sometimes that this ish is just a game and these guys are real people with real problems and situations happening to ‘em all the time that could be affecting them. They just make a hell of a lot more money than us.
As for the O, in my best Red-Stripe voice – “Hooray Bush” Lets kick these Chargers’ a$$es please!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Kell,..the Spanos family, as crooked as they are, are paying Norv to win the superbowl,…hes a complete failure. Im real.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Some teams goals are different,…division titles are what some teams strive for,..some dont,…if the Raiders dont win the superbowl, they wouldnt care if their record was 1-15 that year,..the Chargers, when they win the division, then lose first playoff game at home,..hey, to them it was a great year,..thats why their superbowl trophy case has mold and cobb webs in it.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
The great Hunt family in KC,..what a great organization,..whoopteedoo,…in my lifetime Iv yet to see them play in a friggin superbowl,…as I said, some teams goals are different,…if the Raiders dont win the superbowl, that years record is meaningless to me,..and to Al Davis…keepin it real.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
The Chargers have a nice little streak against us,..ok,…tell you whats real though,..our three championships, to their none, drives them crazy…thats what they get for being Stockton slumlords.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Please the entire afc west are our little sisters ( historically speaking). even the donkeys won two trophies with our sloppy seconds head coach.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
The Chiefs haven’t won a Super Bowl since before we landed on the moon! LOL. The Chargers still aint got one. The fact is, the Raiders are the most successful franchise in the AFC West. Until someone surpasses them, they are still the Kings.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Where’s the Bauce at?
I told him we would be lucky to get 9 games out of Henderson.
He told me I was crazy.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
—”Cable said linebacker Trevor Scott has been moved back to weak side linebacker because of the injuries to Quentin Groves (hamstring) and Thomas Howard (knee).
Matt Shaughnessy will become the starter at right end and take a lot more snaps”—
This emans a lot, and as I see it its positive…
btw, how many times is the word ‘Hamstring’ written in Jerry’s post?
October 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Amzingly, coming into this year, Darren had missed one out of every 5 games.
Plays 4, misses one to start the year.
The synergy!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
However there are some that believe the history of the Raiders only began 7 -8 years ago,…thats the only way they have an argument,…thats how losers think….old kell thinks like a loser, behaves like a loser, talks like a loser, is miserable,..only chooses to focus on the recent losing years,….the Raiders successes over the years messes up his head, his whole slant on things,…to old kell, the Raiders didnt begin until 2003,..thats how losers look at things.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I actually thought scott was decent against the run as a backer. he sucks vs the run defensive end.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
[...] to Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times, Zach Miller (hip) was limited in practice Wednesday.Our View: Miller was [...]
October 6th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
The Chargers will likely win sunday, I will be there,..when their fans start chirpin, I will do what I always do,..ask them about their superbowl trophies,..they shut up and crawl away,…every time.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Dont leave out the sea hags, largent and warner, and the boz!
What a joke….we own you! well we owned them.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The lousy Raiders need to put pressure in the face of Cry Me a Rivers up the middle to disrupt his timing and also they have to cover Gates and not let Tolbert steam roll them.
They of course needs to score TD’s on offense, control the clock by pounding Bush.
All that being said final score:
Chargers 27
Raiders 17
The Raiders vanilla defensive scheme will suck and won’t be able to stop Cry Me a Rivers.
Same old…same old
October 6th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
—”Cable said linebacker Trevor Scott has been moved back to weak side linebacker because of the injuries to Quentin Groves (hamstring) and Thomas Howard (knee).
Matt Shaughnessy will become the starter at right end and take a lot more snaps”—
This emans a lot, and as I see it its positive…
btw, how many times is the word ‘Hamstring’ written in Jerry’s post?
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Finally a move that makes sense!
October 6th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
The lousy Raiders need to put pressure in the face of Cry Me a Rivers up the middle to disrupt his timing and also they have to cover Gates and not let Tolbert steam roll them.
They of course needs to score TD’s on offense, control the clock by pounding Bush.
All that being said final score:
Chargers 27
Raiders 17
The Raiders vanilla defensive scheme will suck and won’t be able to stop Cry Me a Rivers.
Same old…same old in Raider land.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
The Chargers will likely win sunday, I will be there,..when their fans start chirpin, I will do what I always do,..ask them about their superbowl trophies,..they shut up and crawl away,…every time.
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Get ready for another BAD hangover! LOL
October 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
This game is close as long as sadkowski doesnt turn the ball over, and the game is low scoring. Scabkowski cannot win a shoot out vs rivers.
Gates and norvel turners play action and deep seam passing means trouble for our safeties.
We must go deep against jammer. The dischargers will load the box and play up to take away the short sideline and slants. If scabs cant threaten deep it will be a long afternoon.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Betting BIG on the Dis-Chargers!
October 6th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
The lousy Raiders need to put pressure in the face of Cry Me a Rivers up the middle to disrupt his timing and also they have to cover Gates and not let Tolbert steam roll them.
They of course needs to score TD’s on offense, control the clock by pounding Bush.
All that being said final score:
Chargers 27
Raiders 17
The Raiders vanilla defensive scheme will suck and won’t be able to stop Cry Me a Rivers.
Same old…same old in Raider land…..
October 6th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Good to see Matt S back in the starting lineup. Looks like Scott is back at LB.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
NFL network replaying the Oak/Hou game. Must see T.V.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/10/06/10/Gutierrez-Marty-Draws-Raiders-Ire/landing_gutierrez.html?full_args=10/06/10/Gutierrez-Marty-Draws-Raiders-Ire/landing_gutierrez&blockID=325947&feedID=2801
October 6th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Why can’t we just be good again already? I’m tired of being a loser!
October 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
24 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Why can’t we just be good again already? I’m tired of being a loser!
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Start at the top of the org chart then work your way down.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Dont fret raider brethren, football is cyclical. We are down now but we are reloading and will be back sooner than later( my guess is 2011 play off run). The nfl needs the raiders, no other team gets the dander up of opposing players coaches and fan bases nation wide like the raiders. Even rex ryan is trying to copy our style. Silver & Black against the world( the world is winning).
October 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
24,..youre a loser?…because the Raiders are having some years of bad times?….you shouldnt define yourself by what your sports team does,…just enjoy the game dude,..its not that big a deal.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
This sunday,..win or lose, Im going to have a blast,..cant wait!…and I for one am glad DMC is out,..Bush is better suited to play San Diego.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
And Henderson out is meaningless,…maybe this will be a game that Houston can be the man, step up, dominate.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Bush = 128 yards rushing + 37 passing =
Raiders 37
New Tijuana 24
October 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Lets go Yankees!!!…hope to see the Giants and Yankees in WS,…would for sure got to a couple games…what a scene that would be!
October 6th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
The very best thing about this sundays Raider game,…no local tv!!!!!….
October 6th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
[...] Miller (hip) limited Wednesday The News According to Jerry McDonald of the Contra Costa Times, Zach Miller (hip) was limited in practice [...]
October 6th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Zach Miller could have hip replacement surgery this week and still play San Diego,..DMC, if he feels any type of twinge, anywhere,..wont suit up, but will spend hours tweeting about playing video games and whatnot,…some players play hurt, some dont,…we all know which one DMC is.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
But you can count on DMC laughing and joking and smiling on the sidelines during the game in street clothes while team is getting killed,..seen it many times.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
24,..youre a loser?…because the Raiders are having some years of bad times?….you shouldnt define yourself by what your sports team does,…just enjoy the game dude,..its not that big a deal.
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Now the Davis flunkies are trying to sell losing as fun.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
It felt really good to have the SF Giants beat the Padres and take them out of the playoffs since I live in San Diego now. I can only hope the Raiders can beat the Chargers and make me feel even better about it.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
The very best thing about this sundays Raider game,…no local tv!!!!!….
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The very worst thing is that if the Raiders lose big, we might not see any telivised games the rest of the year. Home or away.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Kell,..its YOU whos the Davis flunkie,..YOU are the one that talks about him the most,…lol…poor ol fool….must suck to be you, being owned by Al Davis,..you couldnt get him out of your head if you tried,..and you have tried,..and failed….therapy old dude,..give it a try.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Here we go Big Bannana
38-31 raiders
we get over the hump this week!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Raider for life,…there will not be any games on tv locally this year,…no matter what happens sunday or any other game,..the Raiders made sure of that,…part of their plan to screw the JPA,…Im informed, youre not.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
LOL….watching the replay, and Bruce had a QB rating of 108 going into his last drive.
That is the pace of the 2nd best QB in the NFL.
26 yard, perfect spiral, that went 30+ yards in the air to JLH.
Peyton Manning couldn’t have thrown it better.
The more I watch, the more I realize Bruce might be our best player.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Old kell is not only a Davis flunkie, hes a Davis puppet,…when you see old kell in here rantin and ravin, cryin,…its easy to see the strings being pulled by al davis,…lol.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Bruce will play well sunday,..Bush will also for about a half then get winded,..however the weak D is what will wear down and lose game,..prolly a close game until late 3rd quarter.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Norco, I was talking about local tv
October 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
An we WILL get over the hump this week
offense is scoring points moving the ball well
defense gets one key turnover an we will win on Sunday
An that goes for every sun
shocking all haters!!!!!
Anthats not a Davis boy talking
that’s comin from a true to heart fan
like I think MOST of US are
October 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
@56
Oooops wasn’t talking about local tv.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Well they likely will play the away games,…Bay Area has to, however the Sac valley doesnt have to…and havent a couple times,…I dont watch alot of away games on tv anyway,..I dont like watching football on tv.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
I see now that the nfl is replaying the blackout game the Grad haters got quiet all of the sudden. Thanks for posting that 108 rating in the final drive. Time for the haters to STFU.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Uh oh,…Pin Stripers down already.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
LOL….watching the replay, and Bruce had a QB rating of 108 going into his last drive.
That is the pace of the 2nd best QB in the NFL.
26 yard, perfect spiral, that went 30+ yards in the air to JLH.
Peyton Manning couldn’t have thrown it better.
The more I watch, the more I realize Bruce might be our best player.
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DMAC is our best player. Grads gives us the best chance to win everyweek
all he does is make plays. DMAC also. Givem the ball they make a play
October 6th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Lmao,..Murphy pretended to be hurt on that last play when he made choke job drop,..too funny.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
DMC is our weakest player.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Put on the extra slow motion on the second to last play on the DHB out.
It hit DHB in the elbow, about 16 inches from the 8 and 5. DHB wasn’t even ready for it.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Bruce is the best player on our team. If he can generate this many yds, first downs, and points with that POS Oline and receivers, I know he will be doing magical stuff with a decent supporting cast and time.
If you noticed, he is pretty awesome during clutch moments. Look at all the final drives with him in the game, the KC game last year (hit DHB in the chest), Cinci, Pitt, 1st down pass against the Rams, 4th down against Cards, and 4th down against Texans. All of his throws were on the money.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Julius Jones is available,…suit him up in place of DMC and his silly putty hamstring.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
LOL….watching the replay, and Bruce had a QB rating of 108 going into his last drive.
That is the pace of the 2nd best QB in the NFL.
26 yard, perfect spiral, that went 30+ yards in the air to JLH.
Peyton Manning couldn’t have thrown it better.
The more I watch, the more I realize Bruce might be our best player.
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The Grads haters are clueless. All they keep trying to do is serve us piss and tell us that it’s lemonade.
Despite the fact that’s all Grads does is make plays week after week and get let down by his teammates, they still want to pull the wool over their eyes.
I’m done paying any attention to them.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
agreed Armchair,
From now on my standard reply is, “Grad is gonna be great. Get over it.”
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Like I said…not a QB in this league will take us to the AFC championship game or beyond with this cast offensive of linemen that we have.
Our receivers are showing improvement, but they’re clearly not ready for the Prime Time yet.
Gannon was great, yes.
But without Barrett Robbins, Lincoln Kennedy, Rice and Brown, he wasn’t gonna to take us to a Superbowl by himself.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Man just can’t get over murphys drop. Iam more upset about that then how are d played. There only three raiders playing there hearts out this yr. Mcfadden, owski, and miller. I don’t see how the rest of the team can’t see that. This team needs a leader on the field so bad. These are grown men. You think they would man up. I guess some of these guys have no character. Damn murphy no excuse. Well don’t worry raider nation he said that won’t happen again. Lmao whatever.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
*cast of offensive linemen.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Murphy had a clavicle issue and I know he got nervous going over the middle knowing 4 guys were around him. He flinched. Hopefully he learns from this.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Arizona Cardinals are going with Max Hall, the 6′1 noodle-armed QB from BYU.
According to some QB guru’s on here, he has no chance. Derek Anderson makes more than him, so he should start, and he is also taller with a stronger-arm.
Wisenhunt must be a moron, and clearly way too impatient with his QB.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Week 3 Janikowski.
Week 4 Murphy.
Like I said, all the QB can do is putthe team in a position to win.
He can’t throw the ball, make the catches, kick the field goal, make the play on Kickoff Coverage, etc.
If he puts his team in a position to win or tie, the other teammates gotta step up and help.
Two weeks in a row that has not happened.
And yet some of these clueless posters in here wanna blame the quarterback.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
They clearly must be watching a different game than the rest of us…
October 6th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
The more I watch, the more I realize Bruce might be our best player.
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WOW!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Davis said he was surprised to learn some of the long-standing employees of the Raiders remember him from the days when his father Bruce played for the Raiders from 1979 to 1987.
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This quote is priceless.
I’m sure his old man could bring him up to speed on the playbook!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
He can’t throw the ball, make the catches, kick the field goal, make the play on Kickoff Coverage, etc.
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If he could Blanda may still be alive… sorry I had to.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
# Carl Weathers Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
He can’t throw the ball, make the catches, kick the field goal, make the play on Kickoff Coverage, etc.
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If he could Blanda may still be alive… sorry I had to.
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lol
October 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
The Raiders According to the Twerp
The Raiders are a dysfunctional NFL organization that is analogous to a mixture of manure and puke.
Only a moronic and myopic Raider fan believes that the putrid no talent Raiders are relevant. They’re not.
Raiders: 87 losses in 117 games.
Raiders: 11+ losses in 7 straight seasons.
Raiders: 13 straight losses to the AFC West bully, the Chargers.
Raiders: 31st run defense in the NFL.
Raiders: An embarrassment drawing only 32,000 fans. That’s 50% occupancy for a NFL game! Say “hello” to L. A.
Enjoy losing for the 14th straight time to the Chargers, scumbags.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
So what type of numbers are you expecting Gardowski to put up?
October 6th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Maybe Bruce was practicing kicking FG’s when he had his groin issue in camp!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
We were down 31-14 because the defense didn’t show up,and we came back to be on the verge of tying and going to overtime.
Mind you, it only got to 4th and 16 because of an intentional grounding and loss of down penalty, when the offensive completely broke down and forced the QB to throw away the ball instead of taking the sack
The QB throws a perfect spiral on 4th and 16 that hits the receiver right in the hands, yet he muffed it, and tipped it up in the air resulting in an interception.
Yet somehow I’m supposed to be convinced that that was the quarterbacks fault. The QB stunk it up out there with his horrible QB rating of 108.
Yeah right. Pathetic.
But somehow
October 6th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
*offensive line.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Bruce played his heart out Sunday. Okey he had a couple turnovers. Actually one interception was his fault. Other pick murphys fumble that was langstons fault he totally missed that block. He got took. One thing about Bruce is he has got to slide more. He took some big hits in that game. But he always got right back up. Atleast I have my ducks to look forward to every weekend.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
So let me see if I have this right …
Gardowski had nothing to do with this team only having 14 pts going into the 4th qtr
but ….
Had everything to do with them coming back and almost converting a 4th and 16. A 4th and 16 that he had nothing to do with that is.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
The truth is that every single player on the Raider roster (with the exception of Zach Miller) needs to play better than they did last weekend.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
The QB throws a perfect spiral on 4th and 16 that hits the receiver right in the hands, yet he muffed it, and tipped it up in the air resulting in an interception.
Yet somehow I’m supposed to be convinced that that was the quarterbacks fault. The QB stunk it up out there with his horrible QB rating of 108.
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you really are this stupid, aren’t you?
hours ago you threw your little tantrum about how everyone should immediately stop talking about the qb situation.
i called you out for being a hypocrite, and a fool. that you have gone back and forth regarding the qb.
and here you are, hours later, still talking about the one position you whined to everyone to stop talking about?
you are an idiot, plain and simple.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
jhill-in regards to your comment that I, also, was in one of those three groups? you would be wrong. obviously you didn’t read what I posted
October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
in regards to your comment that I, also, was in one of those three groups?
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you would be wrong. obviously you didn’t read what I posted
You were in MY one category.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Like I said, all the QB can do is putthe team in a position to win.
He can’t throw the ball,
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qb can’t throw the ball? you sure you have the right sport?
btw, again, you haven’t shut up about the qb all day.
next time keep your feminine preaching to yourself,
October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Raiders I must admit are an oddball organization,…went to the website,..shop link,…jerseys,..you can get a Culpepper,..an Aaron Brooks,..a Lamont Jordan,…a Jason Campbell,..a Jamarcus Russell,…but you CANNOT buy a Gradkowski jersey,…the starting QB,..and who I feel will be the starting QB for the next 5 years,…but you can get an Aaron Brooks,…thats just friggin weird.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
# J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
in regards to your comment that I, also, was in one of those three groups?
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you would be wrong. obviously you didn’t read what I posted
You were in MY one category.
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ah, compromise.
no problem
wasn’t in my three, but was in your four.
works
October 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
So let me see if I have this right …
Gardowski had nothing to do with this team only having 14 pts going into the 4th qtr
but ….
Had everything to do with them coming back and almost converting a 4th and 16. A 4th and 16 that he had nothing to do with that is.
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Jhill,
Just to show your lack of knowledge and your continual hate…try looking up time of possession in the 3rd qtr. We had the ball for 4 mins and they had it for 11 mins. Grad is great. Get over it.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Sammy,..I dont do well with posts that have multiple posts on them,..are you for or against Gradkowski?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Raiders I must admit are an oddball organization,…went to the website,..shop link,…jerseys,..you can get a Culpepper,..an Aaron Brooks,..a Lamont Jordan,…a Jason Campbell,..a Jamarcus Russell,…but you CANNOT buy a Gradkowski jersey,…the starting QB,..and who I feel will be the starting QB for the next 5 years,…but you can get an Aaron Brooks,…thats just friggin weird.
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sold out?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
In my opinion, Gradkowski is the only QB since Gannon with any heart what so ever.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
No Sammy,..its not available,…never has been. I go to every game,..never seen one.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
# SammyTheBull Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
you really are this stupid, aren’t you?
hours ago you threw your little tantrum about how everyone should immediately stop talking about the qb situation.
i called you out for being a hypocrite, and a fool. that you have gone back and forth regarding the qb.
and here you are, hours later, still talking about the one position you whined to everyone to stop talking about?
you are an idiot, plain and simple.
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SammyTheBullSchit aka Ricochet-
I said that I don’t want to hear people complaining about the QB situation until the O-line was addressed.
And of course people were still complaining. So I simply explained to them that you cannot blame the QB when the rest of the team did not step up and do their part.
But I know that this is too complicated for your simple mind to understand you mental midget.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Im wearing my Tatum jersey this sunday, proudly.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
try looking up time of possession in the 3rd qtr. We had the ball for 4 mins and they had it for 11 mins.
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Is that going to tell me that we had more than 14 pts going into the 4th qtr?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
# SammyTheBull Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Like I said, all the QB can do is putthe team in a position to win.
He can’t throw the ball,
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qb can’t throw the ball? you sure you have the right sport?
btw, again, you haven’t shut up about the qb all day.
next time keep your feminine preaching to yourself,
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Well I guess your brain has a 1 and a half sentence reading limit. This is what I said…
# ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Week 3 Janikowski.
Week 4 Murphy.
Like I said, all the QB can do is put the team in a position to win.
He can’t throw the ball, make the catches, kick the field goal, make the play on Kickoff Coverage, etc.
If he puts his team in a position to win or tie, the other teammates gotta step up and help.
That was too complicated for you huh SammyThe BullSchit?
You’re even stupider than Rick-o-schit, your alter ego.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
# J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
try looking up time of possession in the 3rd qtr. We had the ball for 4 mins and they had it for 11 mins.
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Is that going to tell me that we had more than 14 pts going into the 4th qtr?
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What part of “We Don’t Have An Offensive Line” don’t you understand.
If the QB doesn’t have any sort of pass protection and then his number one running back gets hurt, then tell me how putting up 21 points in a game where the defense couldn’t stop ANYBODY is a bad thing?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Yankeeeeeees!!…that Yankee-Giants series is gonna go down!…Im at the game friday night,…wearin Kevin Mitchell jersey,…so there. Guinness and Gilroy Garlic Fries baby.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
jhill
do you judge peyton or any qb through 3 qtrs or the entire game? kinda hard to score points when the other team held on to the ball for 11 mins no? your argument is weak. bruce is gonna be great. get over it!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
I don’t care about numbers, I care about letters (W/L).
Repost:
Everyone, there is more to the game than just stats. Gradkowski has almost always made throws to put us in position to win when he has had a chance. The perfect pass to Murphy that was deflected and intercepted in Houston, and the one to Heyward Bey that was deflected and intercepted in KC last year.
As of right now, and probably for the long haul, he gives us a better chance to win than Campbell does. I believe Houston is a better team than Tenn and the Titans murdereded us while Gradkowski gave us a nail biting game until the end against a stronger team.
Any thoughts? I usually don’t post much.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
guy
true. we put up points but cant win. we will win when spec team and D carries its weight
October 6th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
If the QB doesn’t have any sort of pass protection and then his number one running back gets hurt, then tell me how putting up 21 points in a game where the defense couldn’t stop ANYBODY is a bad thing?
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Putting up 21 points ????
Well it was entertaining. Made it interesting at the end when the Texans were in coast mode.
I think we all know that game was over when the Texans went up 31-14 in the 4th qtr.
You are making ridiculous excuses for Gardowski. Houston’s Oline is worse than ours. Check the stats on sacks given up. Shaub was playing with who as WRs? Houston had the WORST secondary in the NFL.
We should have had more points through 3 qtr with this dynamic player at QB. No bonehead penalties no dropped passes from the WRs. No turnovers from the RBs or STs.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Leave it alone about Jason Campbell,..they saw him up close in Napa and saw right off the bat he wasnt legit, but was forced to start him game one,..thats it for him, if Gradkowski goes down Boller will come in,…and that 1 year extension they gave Campbell is fake money,..he only gets it if on team next year, which of course he wont be.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
J,
In all seriousness, who is playing well on this team?
Zack Miller. OK
Darren. OK
Really who else? Nnamdi? Couldn’t tell. Routt I guess, but still giving up azz occasionally.
Everyone else has been pretty much spazzatura. Bruce is one of our top 3-4 players, at least right now.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
kinda hard to score points when the other team held on to the ball for 11 mins no?
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Might have held the ball for longer than 11 min if Gardowski didn’t turn it over, no?
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
J Hill you’re delusional.
The poor QB play by both Campbell and Grads is directly indicative of extremely poor offensive line play.
If you can’t see that then you’re blind.
However, Grads style of play allows him to at least move the chains in our offense whereas Campbell couldn’t even do that.
Until we fix our offensive line and get the players around the QB to step up and make plays, then stop blaming the QB when we lose the close games in the 4th quarter.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Maybe Ro Mac can use this as motivation to kick azz over SD. We need to break that losing streak!!!
Too bad about Hendu. That sucks big. DT shortage again and Kelly’s be sub par.
Kellen Heard anyone?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
My condolences to the McClain’s.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Jhill,
gonna call you out again. The pick was thrown at 2:16 mark of the 3rd qtr. So you obviously dont know your shcytt to back up your argument. Houston took 2 mins to score and that pretty much wrapped up the 3rd. Houston hung on to the ball for 11 total mins. Grad came back in the next drive at 14:44 mark of the 4th qtr and drove down for a TD.
Your grabbing at straws. Your argument is weak. Grad is great. Get over it.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Let’s take a look at the 3rd qtr AIG …
Houston score in 2 plays to open the half.
Next drive Gardowski completes a couple of checkdowns to McFadden and Miller mixed in with some runs Reece and McFadden for 2 first downs.
THEN …
Gardowski incomplete pass on first down
McFadden gets dropped for a 4 yd loss
On 3rd and 14 Gardowski scrambles and takes that big hit.
Houston drives down the field for a FG uses 8 min of clock.
Gardowski throws INT on first play of next drive!
Houston holds the ball for the last 2 min and score a TD on the first play of the 4th qtr.
14-14 game at half, 31-14 after the 3rd qtr.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
J Hill you’re delusional.
The poor QB play by both Campbell and Grads is directly indicative of extremely poor offensive line play.
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BOTH quarterbacks have contributed to making the O line look bad on occasion. Gradkowski misses easy D reads and allows blitzers to over whelm our blockers.
He doesn’t audible well I guess.
Campbell had Russell-itis and holds the ball too long.
Verdicts still out on Campbell but yeah, some better blocking would help THEM.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
guy
true. we put up points but cant win. we will win when spec team and D carries its weight
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Seems like they miss Tony Stewart and Ekejuiba. 2nd yr TE Brandon Myerrs has been tanking and costing us.
We’ve never been the same since the loss of Brian Schnieder.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Let me enlighten you about that losing streak…you guys care more about it then the players,…they couldnt care less about any losing streak,..this aint the old days when the Raiders hated the Chiefs, big brawls,..nope,..they all share agents,…Hell some Raiders and Charger players likely will go drinking together after the game,…that streak means nothing to them,…Im real.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
J Hill you’re delusional.
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Nice!
Of course our Oline is bad. So are most of the Olines in the NFL.
The Texans have given up MORE sacks than we have!
Gardowski is supposed to be the guy who can deliver IN SPITE of the Oline, but all I keep hearing is he needs a better line and better supporting cast, lol!
And why are you talking about Jason Campbell? He worse than Gardowski.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Raider linemen have been playing all over the place. No wonder they can’t get some cohesion.
Khalif’s been in as an extra “TE” played RT and LG.
Veldheer’s subbing at LT and of course he played center. Who’s idea was that?
Langston Walker at LT a couple times.
The only one staying put is Carlisle and he’s plain frikkin awful. Has been for 2 yrs prior.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Jhill,
So the 17 points is Grad’s fault when our D gave up 17 points and allowed the opposing team to control 11 mins of the qtr?
Do you judge Qb’s by each qtr or the entire game? Jeezus the guy throws one pick and you act like it’s the end of the world. Have Drew, Rivers, Brady, or Schaub ever thrown 1 pick in a game?
Your argument is weak. Grad is great. Get over it.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Grads threw 2 picks.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
is 24 points not enough JHill? Point to me where in our league history or even this year has a team CONSISTENTLY produced more 24 points with the worst Oline and WR’s who can’t catch?
Where The Fck are you getting your argument from and based on what? You’re just bitter about life and hating on Grad cuz everyone else and 30k fans chanting his name at the Coliseum.
You’re weak. Even on game day you were thinking he might bring us back? Remember how you asked if he can be “adding to the legend”?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Chargers go under cover to infiltrate the Raider nation.
Get a life…
http://behindenemylines.yahoo.com/
October 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
You guys taking the Gardowski criticism personally is HILARIOUS.
Despite most people saying that he should be the starter, NO ONE can say he needs to play better without “Heart of a Lion Club” protesting.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
24 points is nice and much better than in recent times but we need “W”s!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Chargers owner AJ Snith “Lord of No Rings”
October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Jhill,
The problem we have is you and the other morons on here are blaming the loss on Grad. My goodness dont you remember how bad we have been the last 7 years on offense. We were the laughing stock of the league last year for our futility. Remember how JLH and Murphy ran into each other against SD? The man has put the team on his back and put them in position to win. Now if Jano can kick a chipshot or the D can slow down the opposing team, we’d be 3-1. Grad is the least of our problem this year. If you can’t see it, then at least 30k fans can at the game. They’re not chanting his name because they hate him. I can assure you that.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
It’s amazing how now that Grads has the job, all we here about is how the OL, receivers and defense suck. Nobody ever mentioned the supporting cast last year when JR had the job and the same receivers were ROOKIES! What a joke!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Nnamdi,
To win in this league you need all 3 phases of your game. The bad offense has masked our weakness on the D. There are lots of folks on here complaining about our running D and I must admit I finally saw how bad it is this year.
We have solved our offense in spite of its weaknesses but we need the other 2 phases to carry its weight. I do expect the D to come out fired up this week.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Nnamdi, you know darn well the 2nd pick is not his fault so please let’s not get into it. I can put up with your consistent advertising of your website but please dont start acting like the other morons on here.
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It was still a pick.
Grads is a lousy QB. Thats why he wasn’t drafted till the 6th round. Thats why 3 of the Leagues worst teams waived him from their practice squads.
BUT, he has all the intangibles. He moves the ball, he scores points and makes those around him play better.
Its not in his stats and or amount of picks, Its how he plays and he’s the best we’ve got right now.
He gets it done, we just need wins.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/
October 6th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
It’s amazing how now that Grads has the job, all we here about is how the OL, receivers and defense suck. Nobody ever mentioned the supporting cast last year when JR had the job and the same receivers were ROOKIES! What a joke!
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Oh and we didn’t have Hue Jackson either who is clearly the reason the offense has a fighting chance this year. Who was the OC last year anyway? Cable??
October 6th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Nnamdi,
To win in this league you need all 3 phases of your game. The bad offense has masked our weakness on the D. There are lots of folks on here complaining about our running D and I must admit I finally saw how bad it is this year.
We have solved our offense in spite of its weaknesses but we need the other 2 phases to carry its weight. I do expect the D to come out fired up this week.
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Not sure i follow about a bad O making masking our bad ru n D. I think maybe you meant exposed our run D cuz they can’t stay on the field and score.
I think others may have realized our run D has sucked for quite some time now.
Agreed ST have been bad. No return game. Higgins needs to be replaced with a quickness.
I hope the D plays well without Hendu and 2 starting LBs.
I hope the O carries the day and Bush rushes for 200 yds.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Peace owt Nation!~
October 6th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
The problem we have is you and the other morons on here are blaming the loss on Grad.
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Show me ONE post where I said Gardowski is responsible for the loss.
You clearly have you panies all bunched up.
I’ve repeatedly said the poor S play is responsible for the loss.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Jhill,
The problem we have is you and the other morons on here are blaming the loss on Grad. My goodness dont you remember how bad we have been the last 7 years on offense. We were the laughing stock of the league last year for our futility. Remember how JLH and Murphy ran into each other against SD? The man has put the team on his back and put them in position to win. Now if Jano can kick a chipshot or the D can slow down the opposing team, we’d be 3-1. Grad is the least of our problem this year. If you can’t see it, then at least 30k fans can at the game. They’re not chanting his name because they hate him. I can assure you that.
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AIG-raiders don’t worry about these clowns.
These are people who probably still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too. There’s nothing that can be said to help them.
They somehow think that the QB should block for himself, get open downfield, throw the ball and then run downfield and catch it, kick the field goals, and play special teams too.
Only then will he be a good QB.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Thanks for the replies. I know Gradkowski doesnt have the prettiest numbers, but he almost always comes through when he has to. Besides for Dallas and the Jets, what game has he played in for us that we weren’t close in?
I know some people said houston slowed down a lot after they were up big, but we almost made them pay for that because we were on the verge of making a come back, now that would have a been an embarrassing story for them to tell if we ultimately made it in OT.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
McFadden’s autobiography is tentatively titled: Hamstrung.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Now if Jano can kick a chipshot
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Or if Gardowski doesn’t take a delay of game penalty at the half yard line and coverts the QB sneak …
Just sayin’!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
what’s going on..raider nation!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
jheezy wassup mayne? the heart of a lion schit is hilarious!! cant say nothin about him needing to play better without the bravehearts attacking.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
These are people who probably still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too. There’s nothing that can be said to help them.
They somehow think that the QB should block for himself, get open downfield, throw the ball and then run downfield and catch it, kick the field goals, and play special teams too.
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You said that already.
Are you running outta material?
When are we going to see Gardowski come out at have us up going into halftime? Are you admitting that he can’t do it because the rest of the team isn’t good enough?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Nnamdi,
You’re a moron to blame that last pick on Grad and how many people have actually clicked on your site. Obviously not enough or else you wouldnt be advertising it on here. How about posting another clueless exclusive that no one bothers with.
BTW, Jawalrus was drafted 1st overall. That means he must be awesome based on your logic. Brady was drafted where? Kurt Warner or Romo wasnt even drafted. Now you know why no one bother to go to your site. LMAO.
I’ll leave this site to you, JC’s brother and Jawalrus’ brother. Have at it. Grad is great. Get over it!
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Now you’re attributing things I never said. No sh*t it wasn’t Grads fault. It bounced off Murphy’s breat plate. Great pass under pressure but it was still A PICK.
Whats your probelm with stats?
I might actually be hurt if it were my site.
I could care less. They have good articles and I learn from them about our team. Plain and simple.
Don’t like it? Don’t care.
My point was about Grads being drafted 6th over all (which you didn’t even know I’d wager) is that NO ONE thought he was any good. Not even good enough to MAKE A PRACTICE SQUAD.
Valid.
Crawl off of Grads **** for a second and listen to reason and logic. You’re not even hearing what I’m saying.
Grads is the best we’ve got but he’s NOT great. He wouldn’t even start here or anywhere else if it weren’t for injury.
BUT he’s the best we’ve got and he scores and moves the ball.
Take a chill pill and gp vetn somewhere else me lady.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Easy, go look up the league standings and look at all the bottom teams. Look at how many points they are scoring and compare their OLine, WR’s and RB’s to the Raiders. See how many points they are scoring. Most of them have at least a better line than us. Detroit surely has better line and WR’s. Arizona? Let’s look at Dallas. They scored less than 20 per game but surely they have more talent than we do at every position. You should be thanking Grad for getting us 24 per game with that POS Oline we have.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Grads is f***ing magic.. unfortunately it can’t compensate for Hue Jackson, John Marshall, and Tom Cable…
But for the most part.. the whole Raider franchise is an abomination against football nature. That’s why I think it’s so fun to watch the games and see what antic we pull week to week
October 6th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Now if Jano can kick a chipshot
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Or if Gardowski doesn’t take a delay of game penalty at the half yard line and coverts the QB sneak …
Just sayin’!
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If he could read a D blitz and audible or sense the pressure off of said D blitz he failed to read over and over and over…
October 6th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Wassup Armond!
Yeah these cats are hilarious.
Did you see JFB call Gardowski the best player on the team?
WOW!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
…….
It was still a pick.
Grads is a lousy QB. Thats why he wasn’t drafted till the 6th round. Thats why 3 of the Leagues worst teams waived him from their practice squads…..
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Nnamdi,
Dont backtrack on your statement above. His college stats were good but just because he was picked in the 6th round doesnt say he is lousy or not. Based on your logic, Brady, Warner, and Romo sucked too.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
If he could read a D blitz and audible or sense the pressure off of said D blitz he failed to read over and over and over…
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Exactly!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
132.RaiderDebo Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
It’s amazing how now that Grads has the job, all we here about is how the OL, receivers and defense suck. Nobody ever mentioned the supporting cast last year when JR had the job and the same receivers were ROOKIES! What a joke!
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You are absolutely right. JR was a joke.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Was the team in position to make a chipshot and win? yes or no? How do we know if Arizona were down 4 points they wouldnt go for that 4th down rather than punting the ball back to us?
The game came down to a chipshot and we missed it. You’re just a hater. Get over it.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
How do we know if Arizona were down 4 points
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It sure would be nice to see what a team would do if we were up 4 pts against them.
Can’t wait for Gardowski to put LEAD us to a LEAD in the game FOR ONCE!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
In my opinion, Gradkowski is the only QB since Gannon with any heart what so ever.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~you are right about that.
from josh, to aaron, to dante to jr, all heartless.
maybe tui had heart, just not the time to develop the skillset
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Was the team in position to make a chipshot and win? yes or no? How do we know if Arizona were down 4 points they wouldnt go for that 4th down rather than punting the ball back to us?
The game came down to a chipshot and we missed it. You’re just a hater. Get over it.
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STFU!! Why the hell were we ever behind to begin with against AZ? The Cards played bad enough to get be 31-7. Come to think of it, why are we always behind when Grads starts? That dork loves to dig holes!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
dude i saw that. i like how some have made it seem like dmac is playin good cuz of him and not cuz hes that good. just like the media takin credit for him playin well. be damn the fact that we are feeding him the ball like ive been sayin we needed to do since forever. haha the bravehearts are funny. reminds me of that nas song bravehearts years ago.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
I know gut feelings mean squat, but I have one that we might be in store for an upset this week. Odds are against it since we have so many injuries, but I don’t know…
I hope I’m right.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Bruce is our QB…get over it!!
The one you guys should be talking ish about is Cable!
If we lose this game against the tijuana chargers, fire pimp hand!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
SeymourGlen,
Bruce doesn’t play defense he doesn’t dig holes. Take your meds and think about your actions.
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RaiderDebo Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
STFU!! Why the hell were we ever behind to begin with against AZ? The Cards played bad enough to get be 31-7. Come to think of it, why are we always behind when Grads starts? That dork loves to dig holes!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
How come other teams in the league bring in players and the Raiders don’t do ANYTHING? Vikings get Moss, Saints get a new kicker, Miami has a horrible special teams game and they fire the ST coach, yet the Raiders? Starting “run stopper” goes down they do NOTHING. Kicker blows another game winner? NOTHING (except tell him they “love him”)
I keep coming here hoping beyond hope Al Davis will pull the trigger on something ANYTHING to improve the team, but yet again NOTHING!
Soooo sick of this losing crap and yet Al does NOTHING!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Sammy,..I dont do well with posts that have multiple posts on them,..are you for or against Gradkowski?
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for.
ever since jason’s white flag waving kneel down, and butt slide short of a first, he’s on the outs with me
October 6th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Gradkowski – all heart, all fire. Great to see.
Does anyone have his 4th down stats? I know he has more attempts that you’d like at converting 4th down, but one thing I notice is that he is so fearless about it. He doesn’t play it like it’s any other down, but he doesn’t get nervous either. I don’t remember many other QB’s convert on 4th down as much as he does. Not just this year, but since I’ve seen him on the Raiders.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
# J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
How do we know if Arizona were down 4 points
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It sure would be nice to see what a team would do if we were up 4 pts against them.
Can’t wait for Gardowski to put LEAD us to a LEAD in the game FOR ONCE!
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insert “any raider qb” in for Grad, and it still works
October 6th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Yeah these cats are hilarious.
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For some reason I felt compelled to put on Grease
October 6th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Gradkowski starts: SD 38, Raiders 28
Campbell starts: SD 38, Raiders 10
October 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
They somehow think that the QB should block for himself, get open downfield, throw the ball and then run downfield and catch it, kick the field goals, and play special teams too.
Only then will he be a good QB.
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are you drunk, or just stupid?
you already said that. why post the same thing again, mixing up a couple words? that’s what idiots do. or drunk people.
so, which is it?
oh, and good on ya for not discussing the qb anymore. idiot
October 6th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
So after we lose AGAIN to San Diego, who is the new HC?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
…and why is John Marshall still the def. coor.?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
djohnnyg Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
So after we lose AGAIN to San Diego, who is the new HC?
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AL
October 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Gradkowski starts: SD 38, Raiders 28
Campbell starts: SD 38, Raiders 10
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Boller starts: SD 38, Raiders 41
^^ True story ^^
October 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
SammyTheBullschit-
Who’s your favorite football team?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Let’s see if Nnamdi can earn some money this week. I guarantee you Rivers will throw in his direction many times. No better time for a turnover, Mr. Asomugha!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
If everyone on this team played with the passion and intensity of Bruce Gradkowski, we’d be sitting at 3-1 right now. That’s why he is the QB, and not Jason Campbell.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Robert Gallery needs to “man up” and play this Sunday. The game vs. SF is meaningless unless we beat the Chargers!!!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Just got off the phone with Al.
Had a long talk with him. After pleasantries, I asked him how he felt about the QB situation. He is very cool with Gradskowski. Likes him alot, likes his tempo.
Said he could of saved millions if Herreras psycic hadn’t told him we’d be getting Russel. Said he could of paid Bruce the league minimum, and had money left over.
I told him about all the Grad haters here on this blog and he knew of it. He said they would get over it.
I asked him many questions, but the thing that struck me the most was his concern for his defense. Said Seymor was to be the anchor, work with the rooks and all, but that quite hasn’t panned out yet. Couldn’t believe Moss was back with the Vikings. He said ‘funny old world, isn’t it?’
There were things he told me not to repeat, so I can’t. But I will say he is tired of Cable and Marshall moving guys around. He doesn’t like that. He realizes todays players are one dimensional.
On a parting note, I asked him who he liked in this years baseball play-offs. He asked me if the Brooklyn Dodgers made it to the Series, and I said ‘no, but maybe next year.’
He thought that was pretty funny, because he said he was thinking the same thing.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
DaRayduh Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Just got off the phone with Al.
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Call him back tomorrow and ask him to allow some blitz packages vs. San Diego! Or else we’ll take JaMeatloaf out of his will!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
J Hill Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
How do we know if Arizona were down 4 points
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It sure would be nice to see what a team would do if we were up 4 pts against them.
Can’t wait for Gardowski to put LEAD us to a LEAD in the game FOR ONCE!
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JHill,
Where TF have you been? Didnt he rescue JC and put the lead on the board? Didnt he convert that critical 3rd down to Murphy to seal the win? I do remember that we took a knee to win the game. So where have you been? Your argument is weak.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
***That was against the RAMS Jhill
October 6th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
No LT, No VJ. Is McNeil playing yet?
1 Sep 13 SD 14 @ KC 21 L Final
2 Sep 19 JAC 13 @ SD 38 W Final
3 Sep 26 SD 20 @ SEA 27 L Final
4 Oct 03 ARI 10 @ SD 41 W Final
Also SD has 2nd best D overall in the league, 4th vs the pass, 7th vs the run.
On Offense, they are 1st overall, 3rd passing, 10th rushing.
By contrast, we are 3rd vs pass and 31st vs run.
Offense we are 20th passing, 6th rushing.
But if the Charger W/L pattern continues this week, they would be set to lose right?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
TXRAider,
Bruce has not played many games for us but the man has been money on critical downs while playing for us. Dude is clutch. There will be games where he loses it and cant make it happen but so far he’s money.
KC, Cinci, Pitt, Rams, Cards, and Texans.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
They are set to lose, by a 24-17 count. Murphy will score a TD, Bush will score a TD, and Zach Miller will score a TD. Just pray the defense/special teams don’t give up a BIG PLAY!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Also noticed how SD has won both games at home, but lost the two on the road. They are playing in oakland, so the pattern should hold right?…
October 6th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
I’m confident McClain will be a stud MLB. I understand he’s the “quarterback” of the defense. But shouldn’t guys like Seymour and Nnamdi be the leader(s) of the defense, especially with the kid being a rookie? Can somebody tell me if they agree with me, or am I off the mark?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Tempo.
That is what Al told me. Tempo.
When was the last time you saw a Raider qb that had tempo? It’s been awhile. A long while.
And no more JR apologies. The guy had a golden egg and he stepped on it. Never had tempo………
Campbell got no tempo.
Bruce has tempo. Get over it.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I was thinking the same thing the other day. That’s why Seymour was brought in, or at least one of the main reasons why. For veteran leadership and example. Nam is too soft spoken to be a fiery leader, but he should at least hold some people accountable. Who knows what goes on behind close doors, but judging by the product on the field, there seems to be a lack of leadership on the D.
I’m sure others have noticed, but every time the D gives up a big play there’s a lot of finger pointing by the players on the field, but not someone gathering everyone together to get ready for the next play.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Question? What do these names have in common? Nnamdi, Seabass, Woodson, Allen, Mosebar, *Wisniewski, Tim Brown? Answer. The only number one draft picks that have worked out since 1980. Technically Wis was a second round pick since Raiders didnt have a number one during that draft year. Something else in common? During the heyday of the early to mid 80’s Ron Wolf handled the majority of the scouting and the draft prior to free agency. In the late 90’s early 2000’s? Bruce Allen was aboard with Jon Gruden handling the personnel choices as well as free agency. Uncle Al. Give it up. If your idol offensive guru Sid Gilman (an icon in his time) were still alive, he would tell you to wake up and get with the times, turn the football operation over to a young dynamic football guy. An no, your last will and testament stating that the Raiders will continue to run a 4-3 with a deep free safety and no blitzing is unenforceable. Raider fans, thats it in a nutshell. Period. End of story
October 6th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
beach Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
I’m confident McClain will be a stud MLB. I understand he’s the “quarterback” of the defense. But shouldn’t guys like Seymour and Nnamdi be the leader(s) of the defense, especially with the kid being a rookie? Can somebody tell me if they agree with me, or am I off the mark?
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You are ON the mark. Al said todays players are one dimensional. The ones that have leadership are few these days. There are many who lack it. Al knows. He is very old school. He was hoping Seymor would be the guy. Hasn’t worked out yet.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
I have a strong inclination that the family member Mr. McClain lost has a lot to do with his lack of intensity on the field, (or rather overcommitting to a paly).
As we recall he had to leave during pre-season to be with his family, so this must be something that has been lingering in the back of his mind for awhile now.
God, family, U.S.A., then the Raiders; I’m confident Rolando has his priorities. He will be a quality MLB for the Raiders and when it comes to death in the family of Raider personnel, Al Davis steps up, he always has as Mr. Long testified to multiple times.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
So McClain is NOT hurt right?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Apparently he doesn’t have the hamstring flu, EM.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Good night, Raider fans! May the autumn wind guide the Silver and Black to a stunning victory this Sunday.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
This Sunday it is going to be an Autumn Thunderstorm!
Raiders will dominate!
October 6th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
You cats have been fun …… But you awfully confident in a qb that is 5-13 as a starter, & thats over a 5 year career!!!!!!!
Good luck with that
October 6th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
I can’t believe that you think DHB should’ve caught that pass that was clearly behind him. If the ball is thrown to the sideline it’s a catch……….period
Now the pass to Murphy I ttally agree with no excuse he should’ve caught but I wish Grads had gone back to DHB on the 9 route because we probably wuld’ve scored he had his man beat by 5 yards.
I think that gameplan hujack put together was outstanding we’re just not quite there yet. But it was obvious to me that most teams wont be able to stop this offense in that formation. It spreads the defense out and takes advantage of all 3 zones all the QB has to do is take what they give him. And mix in the running game consistently we’ll average 30 points a game.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Huff mic’d up on Showtimes “Inside the NFL” this week. Bad body language when Branch asks him to give him sum. Ole Marty “the DRIVE” Schottenheimer may just have hit the nail on the head… again
October 6th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
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October 7th, 2010 at 12:49 am
#176 nice post!
I hope they beat SD but really, it’s a stretch… This particular win would be a huge boost.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:34 am
This was the number one worry of drafting mc clain. I myself was hoping and calling for jimmy causen or davis offensive tackle san fran taken. I think mc clain can get it done and be great but he has some serious family things . It was documented even on you tube. I hope his family lets him grow up and no stress
October 7th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Mike Tomlin coming up on Mike & Mike in the morning.
I thought he would fail following Cohwer but he has done a fantastic job.
And the best part. I love hearing him speak. He is straight foward and is vry intelligent
He impreses the hell out of me.
Too bad he is not coaching the greatest team in the Universe
October 7th, 2010 at 7:37 am
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October 7th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Plunketthead Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Mike Tomlin coming up on Mike & Mike in the morning.
I thought he would fail following Cohwer but he has done a fantastic job.
And the best part. I love hearing him speak. He is straight foward and is vry intelligent
He impreses the hell out of me.
Too bad he is not coaching the greatest team in the Universe
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Wow, you mean to tell me that your not happy with the Cable guy? I’m shocked!