Raiders revive oldie but goodie

Posted on October 6, 2010 by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Former Chiefs and Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer, a Raider-hater from way back, fielded a quesiton recently on his Sirius radio show about the Raiders inability to finish and resurrected an old theme, which was dutifully printed and placed in the locker room where players could read it.

With some words in bold face and underlined for emphasis, it read:

“The one constant yuo can count on in playing the Raiders is that they don’t finish. They don’t finish plays and they don’t finish games. I always told my players that if they keep playing hard against the Raiders, (the Raiders) would eventually fold. That is why I knew we would always win.

That is still the perception in the league today.”

He left out the part about “hitting them in the mouth.”

More to come .. .

Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

bcz24

DT42 Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
If i was Coach Cable I would put those quotes on loud speakers all over 1220 Harbor BayParkway. Locker Room, Admin offices, Coaches office….EVERYWHERE! Play them over and over again, up until the kickoff. Play them in the stadium up until the pre-game introductions. Play it in the locker room during half-time. And tell the team that they are going to hear this and every other negative comment from every Raider Hater, Ex-Player and anyone else until they put together two complete games in a row. Players want to act like little children and get punched in the face by other teams and not fight back then they need to be treated like children until they produce.
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That would be an awful waste of time… the players tune that garbage out. They collect their check, and there are NO ramifications for poor play. No accountability what so ever.
89052RAIDER

I wonder how the uber-Al sycophant, Hererra would spin the Shanarat/Marty dominance of the Raiders? The Chargers will likely run their streak to 15. Pathetic..Just Pathetic.
DT42

That would be an awful waste of time… the players tune that garbage out. They collect their check, and there are NO ramifications for poor play. No accountability what so ever.
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Well what they are doing now isn’t working. Players at any level do not want to disrespected. When they see that on Sportscenter and people that they respect are laughing at them they will respond.
89052RAIDER

Marty also said on sirius that the Raider roster is full of guys who are used to losing. I agree that their is no expectation of success anywhere within the Raider organization.
REBEL-RAIDER

FUG MARTY “I finish premature in my pants and the playoffs” Shotinbastard
Just Win Baby

Kind of like the Chargers in the playoffs. They just cant finish. They will fold.
KoolKell

“Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.”
89052RAIDER

Marty Schottenheimer prepared for the Raiders by telling his players, “If you hit them in the mouth, they’ll quit.”
bcz24

Well what they are doing now isn’t working. Players at any level do not want to disrespected. When they see that on Sportscenter and people that they respect are laughing at them they will respond.
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They will respond by laughing it off saying you are haters as they cash their checks. People blasted Jamarcus everywhere he went… he responded by going to the jewelry store. Our defense gives up 250 to Houston… they respond by watching the Godfather and playing Medal of Honor. You want to motivate an NFL player? Start levying fines for poor play. $5000 per missed tackle. $10000 per penalty…. they will start to pay attention then.
bcz24

89052RAIDER Says:
October 6th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Marty Schottenheimer prepared for the Raiders by telling his players, “If you hit them in the mouth, they’ll quit.”
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Coach Cable prepared for the 2009 season by proving Marty right. He hit a coach in the face and the team quit.
89052RAIDER

The sad fact is that Marty is correct. The entire organization is nut-less. The Raiders as an organization have been punched in the mouth for the past 8 years and have just quit. Any fan who wants to apologize for Al or think things will turn around with Al in charge are stupid.
ArmChair GM

I love the Nation and I respect everyone’s comments here but a lot of people here still don’t get it.

(Now time for my rant…)

All this talk about QB’s is just plain ridiculous!

The truth is we will never know WHAT WE HAVE at the QB position until we get some stability and talent on that offensive line.

I keep seeing all this chatter about Gannon and Brees and all sorts of foolishness. But no one besides myself and maybe one other person has pointed out who Gannon had on that offensive line when he was here.

He had PRO BOWLERS and ALL PROS! He had Wisniewski, he had Barrett Robbins, he had Lincoln Kennedy! On top of that he had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice who in their old age were playing at a much higher level than what we have right now with any of our wide receivers.

Please stop talking about QB’s! Stop it! If Gannon was behind our current offensive line he would be having many of the same struggles that both Campbell and Grads are having. And taking the SAME HITS!

Remember what happened when Barrett Robbins and Lincoln Kennedy retired? That’s right Gannon got hit and his career ended.

Get a clue you guys please. Cable is an idiot. He is solely responsible for that O-line and has failed miserably.

I’ve been saying it since before the season started and will say it again..Fix the O-line…we win the division!

Fix the O-line and get a REAL NT…we stop the run and make it past the wild card game and to the AFC divisional playoff game.

That’s light years ahead of where we have been. But unfortunately that doesn’t appear to be happening any time soon.

Stop complaining about QB’s. We have way bigger problems on our team than that.
SammyTheBull

bunch of old ladies in here.
you have posters posting the same asinine stats, over and over, too slow to come up with anything new.
you have the same posters going back and forth on grad/campbell, for so long that they actually start repeating earlier exchanges, and just go along.
and you have those who blame al for everything, and others who so desperately want to cling to stats from back in the 80’s, and 70’s.

did I leave anyone out?
some of you are pretty embarrassing
JLofty

embarassing fans of an embarassing team, Sammy what did you expect? Us all to be in here blowin’ sunshine. I agree with you btw.
If we beat the Chargirls, season is a glorious redemption. If not, dudes start collecting paychecks again I suspect.
stucktrader

As much as my Raiders are disappointing me on the Defensive side of the ball… I am glad they can at least score… They just got to keep building that O-line. If you can score, you can at least win… The D-Line is still talented enough, but no real leadership. Seymour was suppose to be that… Nmandi is ok, but he’s quiet… They need a Hue on D… I think Cable is done after this year.
Musaeus

It’s amazing how many haters have sirius talk shows. I think sirius is in on it. Ready…aim…fire!