Still no McClain as practice opens
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 7th, 2010 at 1:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There was no change in the cast of characters Thursday as the Raiders completed warmups and drills before practice.
Middle linebacker Rolando McClain, absent the previous day tending to a death in the family, according to coach Tom Cable was not present. Ricky Brown was lining up with the first team defense.
Also not practicing were running back Darren McFadden (hamstring), left guard Robert Gallery (hamstring), weak side linebacker Quentin Groves (hamstring), linebacker Thomas Howard (knee), linebacker Travis Goethel (lower back), cornerback Walter McFadden, defensive tackle John Henderson (stress fracutre) and wide receiver Chaz Schilens (knee).
Say this for the Raiders _ they may have tight hamstrings, but they’re pretty loose in terms of practice demeanor.
There was no shortage of laughing and joking as they went through the paces at something less than half speed.
We’ll assume the intensity picks up once the prying eyes are sent from the field.
More to come . . .
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October 7th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Should make for some interesting defensive alignments, with no Henderson and maybe no McClain and Groves.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
C’monn Raiders!
Step It Tha Fug Up!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
McPain doesn’t need to practice. He learned everything he’ll ever need to know from his days at ‘Bama. You know he was coached there by Paul Bryant himself and has been there and done that.
All kidding aside, I hope his family is okay and wish them peace in their ordeal.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
There was no shortage of laughing and joking as they went through the paces at something less than half speed.
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…SMDH – I hate hearing this BS!
Figure It Out Raiders!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Hayes your swimming in your own words. I just quoted the man. Tell me where he doesn’t lead people to believe that the Raiders view themselves according to the lockeroom post. He said “it tells how the Raiders view themselves” not my words their his. And to be honest Hayes, your full of crap and a sheep and you don’t even know it.
So I’m done, don’t answer because I truely am not interested in what you have to say…….peace!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Too bad that Travis Goethel kid is hurt he could use some time with the 1st string. That kid looked like a playa.
Missing Big John Slappme Hendo is REALLY going to hurt.
Wonder if the Chargirls will try running on us or if they are going to continue to pass their way down the field.
Hope the defense shows up, very disappointed in them this year so far.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
23,000 Season ticket holders……..sheesh.
I wonder if any other team in NFL history other than the Raiders have had their entire home season blacked-out.
Jerry?
October 7th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I might throw myself off the Oakland bridge if we lose, can’t take it anymore
October 7th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Let me know what bridge so I can at least take pictures
October 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Drexl Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
This has probably already been posted.
Eric Davis and Romo bagging on John Marshall’s defensive scheme. Bend, but don’t break. Seems bent.
Romo caps on Huff for his “soft approach”, thinks the team lacks killer mentality. and they aint breaking enough fingers.
http://www.csncalifornia.com/pages/video?PID=jXDgjHdLKda6_baCGLg5_hETn6_LRCZe
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Wow that is an excellent peice of in your face football knowledge.
Its is not about the scheme in the nfl, its about the mentality of the players. Area 21 isnt a guy that fires up his teammates, althogh he is by far the best 1 on 1 press man cover db in leauge. Seymore is a great player but guys dont rally around him either. In fact on defense the only time I hvae seen the team react to an explosive play was when mm34 blew up a guy in preseason!
The idea of a bend and dont break attitude defense is a joke!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Travis Goethel is one player I wish were healthy, I liked what I saw from him during preseason. It would be nice to get Chaz back in the mix for midseason are some winnable games.
But in all honesty it just takes a win to change everything that’s going on I really thought we would win that game last week. This week I’m much less optimistic. Maybe that’ll help. lol
October 7th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
I despair. I hate pineapple-face and the dolts…and I don’t think we can win. Why o why did I have to be a Raiders fan. If it gets bad in the first quarter, Cable should just let McPain go WWF on receivers over the middle. The team that Al built can’t sell out the stadium with football so maybe they would do better with Vince McMahon’s business plan. What would you pay to see Seymour and Kelly double clothesline Sproles!
crap
October 7th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
JLofty – I agree that losing John Henderson is a big step back. It would be nice if Tommy (can you hear me?) Kelly would start EARNING HIS PAY.
It would be REALLY great if some of these other players would GET OFF THE BENCH and start earning their money too! Bush had his dang hand broken and wired back – and he is already back and ready to roll. WTF is up with these mysterious season ending injuries? Old John Hendu has a stress fracture in his foot, that is legit – these other Nancy-Boys just have hurt feelings.
The Raiders don’t need a conditioning coach – they need a psychoanalysis.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Mystic1
Seymour does what he can but these guy’s on the backend specifically Huff just aren’t physical players. His approach to stopping the run is suspect at best. He loves to play the pass but he our FS and he’s killing us vs the run and McClain roght now is guessing and hesitating way too much. It’s really a bad mix right now. Sunday we just got flat out punked!!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Who can be surprised the players are joking around? It’s not like they have a big game this week.
Bill Cowher or (dare I say) Jon Gruden would put a stop to the nonsense.
But we’ll have Bill Fassel instead.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
priesttj Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Travis Goethel is one player I wish were healthy, I liked what I saw from him during preseason.
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I saw a lot of things in the preseason that i liked. None of those things have been replicated in the first four games.
Brad Roll should be fired over hammiegate IMO.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
not practicing were running back Darren McFadden (hamstring), left guard Robert Gallery (hamstring), weak side linebacker Quentin Groves (hamstring), linebacker Thomas Howard (knee), linebacker Travis Goethel (lower back), cornerback Walter McFadden, defensive tackle John Henderson (stress fracutre) and wide receiver Chaz Schilens (knee).
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there are your 8 inactives!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Should make for some interesting defensive alignments, with no Henderson and maybe no McClain and Groves.
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JFB,
do you think our Run D could drop from 31st overall to 32nd ???
October 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Romo got it right…”soft approach” indeed. Huff, you sissy!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Ricky Brown off the top rope for the big splash on rivers FTW!
October 7th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Bend don’t break, are you kidding me?
We have given up long runs for TDs by:
CJ 76 yards long TD
AF 74 yd TD
Ward 33 yd TD (a back up)
Ringer 15 ydTD (a back up)
Washington for 56 yrd rect TD
KOR return for 100+
Raiders have been bending over and breaking
October 7th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Someone remind me why Nick Miller is not playing.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Someone remind me why Nick Miller is not playing.
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doesn’t meet H/W/S requirements?
October 7th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
What really hurt me the most is when Houston just kept getting hooked. Everything they ran at them worked in the first 3 qrtrs Lamarr was technically whipped into a lather. He finally started to get it after Seymour tore into him. But we were already down 24 to 14 and the tackling was flat out embarrassing. Their backs just juked us left and right. This game we have got to be more disciplined and much more physical. It is time for the DC to move Huff to rover and TB too FS and MM to SS I think we’d be much better on the backend.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Nick Miller the Roster Spot Killer?
October 7th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Their backs just juked us left and right.
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I don’t know, it seemed pretty one cut and downfield to me.
I think Ricky Brown and and Matt Shaunessy on the field would do us a world of good for that backside cut.
Can’t keep letting teams go against the grain.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Clearly Houston needs a fungo bat to be competitive
October 7th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
They’re using JFord right now and he’s been good so far I think it’s the way to go for right now. JLH played big at WR last week he’s starting be a real factor in the passing game. He runs that dig better than anyone we have and he’s got better hands than both starters IMO.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Shaughnessy starting at end will help, but what this team really needs are offensive and defensive tackles.
Especially defensive tackles.
You can’t stop the run without good defensive tackles.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Wait, so who is practicing at WLB Jerry, Scott?
Sould be Wimbley-McClain-Brown
Wimbley moved to DE and Scott brought in as LB on passing downs.
Wimbley-McClain-Scott with ShoNasty as DE won’t be as bad last week, but not as good without Brown.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Drexl Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
This has probably already been posted.
Eric Davis and Romo bagging on John Marshall’s defensive scheme. Bend, but don’t break. Seems bent.
Romo caps on Huff for his “soft approach”, thinks the team lacks killer mentality. and they aint breaking enough fingers.
http://www.csncalifornia.com/pages/video?PID=jXDgjHdLKda6_baCGLg5_hETn6_LRCZe
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Wow that is an excellent peice of in your face football knowledge.
Its is not about the scheme in the nfl, its about the mentality of the players. Area 21 isnt a guy that fires up his teammates, althogh he is by far the best 1 on 1 press man cover db in leauge. Seymore is a great player but guys dont rally around him either. In fact on defense the only time I hvae seen the team react to an explosive play was when mm34 blew up a guy in preseason!
The idea of a bend and dont break attitude defense is a joke!
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After watching that video, all i could think was how much i would like to have a couple juiced up Romo’s running around spitting on dudes, pummeling team mates, losing their minds.
I then laughed my ass off.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
What did I miss?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
It’s not the DT’s that are killing us vs the run it’s containment and the tackling. Backs are cutting back and bouncing it so a DT is not going to change that. The big runs are all off tackle not up the middle. So it’s not the DT’s it’s the DE’s and the containment.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
hopefully the Chargers wont run this play on Ricky Brown!
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/10/26/ba-raiders_raven_0499359055.jpg
October 7th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
new starter at MLB?
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/82992523.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA5487206F2A563BFBCED22F4F304F003A9E5D6E65D29C612A9EDE30A760B0D811297
October 7th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
There was no shortage of laughing and joking as they went through the paces at something less than half speed.
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Why shouldn’t they joke around? They’re only 1-3….and they’re getting paid either way.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
trevor scott is not an an nfl caliber player.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
trevor scott scott has no pass rush moves, cannot hold the edge, and absolutely gets blown up by nearly every back that chips him. tight ends handle him like he is a corner.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Old Kell,..if not being able to lay your fat self on the couch and watch the Raiders play bothers you that much, as it clearly does,…go to the box office and buy a ticket, and see the game,.,..prob solved,….you keep crying about not being able to see it,..only YOU are preventing yourself from seeing it, not Raiders management,…its an NFL policy, not a per team policy,..you really are one uninformed old man,..sad.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
# 89052RAIDER Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
trevor scott is not an an nfl caliber player.
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We have a number of players that fit that category. It’s the reason we can dump players to the practice squad with ease. Nobody cares.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
I think Mario Henderson and Trevor Scott would go unclaimed if waived and we can safely assume the same about Mike Mitchell and Sam Williams.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
So who’s the next coach???
October 7th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
priesttj Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
It’s not the DT’s that are killing us vs the run it’s containment and the tackling. Backs are cutting back and bouncing it so a DT is not going to change that. The big runs are all off tackle not up the middle. So it’s not the DT’s it’s the DE’s and the containment.
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Well, the Kelly sucks and you have to be able to cause disruption as a DT. Have to. BHP is certainly right about containment though. All you have to do is string out the Raiders D and beat them off the edge. Houston did it a number of times.
How often did you see Texans RBs running to the edge and you’re sitting there like OK they read it, contain them, stop them and they, to your disbelief, kept running.
They don’t have to run at our awful DT when they can run off tackle every play.
Our ends were challenged in that game and failed, especially Scott.
Al HAD to have mandated his converted TE be placed on the LOS. No coach, even trhe sh;tty ones we have, could possibly think that was a good idea.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/296/376/83109507_display_image.jpg?1278972569
LEADERSHIP
October 7th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Groves’ injury may be the best thing to happen to this run D.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0f6S6Ta9J1gtl/610x.jpg
Ricky Brown’s “remember me” shot on Gates!
October 7th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Trevor Scott has no value at the point of attack and was so badly exploited on the edge in the first three games. He is just not powerful enough to be an average NFL Tackle.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04l9er5dGa9sd/340x.jpg
a MLB that isn’t afraid to hit somebody?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
are you for real RR?
brown is doodoo as a starter
October 7th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Joking around & laughing in practice with a 1-3 record. Thats great. I guess thats why when they take the field they look like a joke & everyone laughs at them. Good job basic Cable.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I think the timeout coordinator needs one of these:
http://ridiculouslyawesomeparty.com/dunce-cap-722311.jpg
October 7th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
brown is doodoo as a starter
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so is McLame
as Bobby would say “I’m Real”
October 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
LOL @ Banana!
nice pic bro
also love the basic Cable line courtesy of Rick (who always got upset when people called Russell “JaWalrus”)
Hmmmm
October 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Ricky Brown wasn’t good enough to beat out that scrub Kirk Morrison, but at least he is a LB with LB instincts.
Hoepfully McClain gets back and Brown replaces Groves.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Rockstar
You people have a fire dept in Teabag Podunk?
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/10/firefighters-watch-home-burn-down-because-owner-hadnt-paid-75-city-fee/1
October 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
I disagree but w/e.
Basic Cable! i love that Pretty Rick ahahahahaha
October 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Tommy Kelly is just plain lazy. He has the physical tools, but there is a reason none drafted him out of Mississippi State. He plays hard one play and take ten off.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
# Pretty Rick Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Joking around & laughing in practice with a 1-3 record. Thats great. I guess thats why when they take the field they look like a joke & everyone laughs at them. Good job basic Cable.
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What Jerry left out is that the players had just been shown the defensive gameplan sent down from Al Davis.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Dude was clearly lost out there on multiple plays. Would literally be looking around for help DURING the play.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Who me?? Naawww,,,
October 7th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
The real issue with the defense is S play.
No impact play from either S = average defense on a good day.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Small Banana writes,
“What Jerry left out is that the players had just been shown the defensive gameplan sent down from Al Davis.”
What Scheme….base 4-3, single safety, bump and run. and of course, play like your have no heart.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Trevor Scott would go unclaimed if waived
trevor scott scott has no pass rush moves
trevor scott is not an an nfl caliber player.
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whoa whoa whoa
slow down there little league!
Trevor Scott is a situational pass rusher and a darn good one
why we put a guy with his skill set at base end is a coaching/management issue.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
A little rough on Trevor Scott…no doubt he should not be starting DE, but he is a good 3rd/long pass specialist and a good fit for special teams.
Brown? Like everyone else on the Raiders, he seems to be made of glass. As soon as he becomes a starter, he is injured.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I may be crazy, but I can see the Raiders coming out and ripping the Dolts a new one this week. At home, the offense is clicking with Grads at the helm, the Chargers are coming off a blowout win but aren’t as good as they’ve been in recent years, we’re coming off a loss that was embarrassing for the defense, Marty’s comments could fuel that fire.
It sounds nuts, but, 31-20 Rrrraaaiiiddaazzzzzzz with SD tacking on a late TD to make it look closer than it actually was.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Big Banana,, I didnt even think about the Al Davis gameplan. Now it makes sense.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
RR,
T Scott will not sniff a sack all year. He is awful in every aspect. Watch the game film..Horrible.. Al insisting guys like this start is what is killing us.. Same goes for Mario Henderson and, to some degree DHB..
October 7th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Small banana? Where’d that come from?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
So T.Scott is going to go from a 7 sack season a year ago to no sacks this year because he’s awful??????
October 7th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Did I hurt you, 89052?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
You people have a fire dept in Podunk?
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Kell, actually we get a letter like this guy got every year asking for a small fee probably around $75-$150!
but i’m friends with half of the volunteer fire fighters so they would never watch my house burn down…
October 7th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Murphy is far an away our best receiver and Shaunessey is a better option than Scott. However, Al demands they get the nod…I am sure the coaching staff would prefer that Mitchell never plays either…
October 7th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Brown? Like everyone else on the Raiders, he seems to be made of glass. As soon as he becomes a starter, he is injured.
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Agreed!
October 7th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
you guys are jokes ripping scott like that. hes been a team leader in the sack dept for a reason! he shoulve stayed at WLB and just blitzed all yr, but we’re the Al Davis’s and blitzing loses you games.
wait….
October 7th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
How is Trevor Scott and Al Davis player?
Wasn’t dude basically an undrafted player?
Trevor Scott over a guy Al drafted in rd 3 in ShoNasty?
Trevor Scott or Al’s 2nd rd pick Houston?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
It seems at times Jerry would rather take shots than report any news about the team.There is nothing wrong with the players laughing and joking around.Better than being uptight.Just get an attitude when the whistle blows.As far as Scott goes,he wasn’t much if any worse than the other DEs last game.Its funny the way one person on here will say something negative about a player and then a bunch of people jump on the bandwagon.And he doesn’t plat tackle,he plays end.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Just playing banana. No offense intended.. I have watched Scott closely and he is absolutely getting gashed and has no pash rush…Maybe he is off the juice.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Murphy is far an away our best receiver
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Murphy is not better than Chazerella. May be healthier, but without question Chazerella should start over Murphy.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Lefty—scott is not holding the edge and gets blown up on power runs. Teams are going right at him and he cannot get near the QB when the raiders rush four.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Its is not about the scheme in the nfl, its about the mentality of the players. Area 21 isnt a guy that fires up his teammates, althogh he is by far the best 1 on 1 press man cover db in leauge. Seymore is a great player but guys dont rally around him either. In fact on defense the only time I hvae seen the team react to an explosive play was when mm34 blew up a guy in preseason!
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I think scheme has a lot to do with giving teams a competitive edge in the NFL, but I agree with most of what you say.
We need a guy to fire up this defense. Doesn’t necessarily have to be a Ray Lewis type, of course that would be nice, but the Ray Lewises of the world don’t come around very often. Could be a soft-spoken Polamalu type too if he were to lead by example by firing up the rest of the unit with big plays and big hits.
With that said, I think it’s time to give Mike Mitchell a start or two at strong safety. Fans like to bag on Huff because they’ve already written him off, but Branch has been the culprit on most of the big plays we’ve given up this year. A major disappointment thus far after a promising 2009 season for him.
Mitchell is capable of blowing somebody up — even somebody like Antonio Gates — and we saw after Groves’ special teams hit against the Rams how even one big hit can carry over to a tough, fired-up defensive unit.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Failure is looking even more imminent than before.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
has no pash rush…Maybe he is off the juice.
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LOL!
come on bro, put down the HaterAid.
what did TScott ever do to you?
are you related to Jhill?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
I am sure the coaching staff would prefer that Mitchell never plays either…
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Last couple of games, he’s looked like the best S on the field. Can’t possibly be any worse than Branch.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
but i’m friends with half of the volunteer fire fighters so they would never watch my house burn down…
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What about the black & mexicans in Podunk?
Nevermind.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Scott’s strength is rushing the qb in a blitz,,nothing else & thats how he needs to be used,,nothing else.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Know we’re short on LBs but please Al, DON’T…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20101007_shawne_merriman_reportedly_on_trading_block
October 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I like Houston alot,and teams realize Houston is a player so they hammer at Scott. He is weak link on a bad defense.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
J Hill Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
I am sure the coaching staff would prefer that Mitchell never plays either…
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Last couple of games, he’s looked like the best S on the field. Can’t possibly be any worse than Branch.
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This is true. To say Branch is struggling is an under statement.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Full on panic mode and we haven’t even lost to the Chargers yet!
Chargers 38-13.
1-4 here we come. Setting up the Bay of Pigs III Oakland vs SF!
October 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
What about the black & mexicans in Podunk?
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there aren’t any …
seriously, not that i’ve seen!
Kansas City & St Louis = different story. very diverse, might as well be in Cali
October 7th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Setting up the Bay of Pigs III
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Dakota, is that when MR goes skinny dipping with his cousin ???
October 7th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
did any of yo guys see the soundfx piece on NFL Network?
Huff and Branch were mic’d for last weeks game. as the game went on i got the feeling that Branch and the coaches just wanted to be like “F**k you suck d^&k Huff wtf are you doing out there?!”
interested if anyone else saw it, and if you got that feelin also.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Mitchell is capable of blowing somebody up — even somebody like Antonio Gates — and we saw after Groves’ special teams hit against the Rams how even one big hit can carry over to a tough, fired-up defensive unit.
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Yeah but is that all Mitchell’s capable of? He may be able to blow him up but bet he can’t cover him.
Groves “big hit” was a crock. He was blocked into the guy BACKWARDS. It was dumb luck he slammmed into the guy.
Groves has been about as terrible as Branch.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Wonder if McClain’s poor game had anything to do with the fact a sick family member was dying?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Wonder if McClain’s poor game
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which one?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Groves has my vote for biggest off season acquisition bust.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
It seems at times Jerry would rather take shots than report any news about the team.There is nothing wrong with the players laughing and joking around
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Jeez, and people call me a whiner for posting 30-86, yikes.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Last couple of games, he’s looked like the best S on the field. Can’t possibly be any worse than Branch.
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It’s easy to look good when you are on the field 15% of the time.
As bad as Huff and Branch are, I’m not sure MM34 would have even been in the position to make a tackle, as poor as angles as he takes.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Groves has my vote for biggest off season acquisition bust.
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really?
I vote for the mail carrier who forgot to deliver Tom Cable’s termination letter!
October 7th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Something doesn’t feel right about this one. I hope to god I am wrong but I hope we don’t have a rookie that just went AWOL.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Jeez, and people call me a whiner for posting 30-86, yikes.
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Kell, why hate on L12?
he’s a Prez Barook worshipper such as yourself …
October 7th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
The problem is that when you are choosing between branch and mitchell is like choosing to be either kicked or punched.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Lefty12
These guys’s will crack you up if you just let them ramble. lol they’re jumping all over the wrong players hahaha.
Trying to correct them is useless they’ll just say it again later lol
October 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Chargers 31
Raiders 17
I would like to be proven wrong….
Sheesh…
October 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Question? What do these names have in common? Namdi, Seabass, Woodson, Allen, Mosebar, *Wisniewski, Tim Brown? Answer. The only number one draft picks that have worked out since 1980. Technically Wis was a second round pick since Raiders didnt have a number one during that draft year. Something else in common? During the heyday of the early to mid 80’s Ron Wolf handled the majority of the scouting and the draft prior to free agency. In the late 90’s early 2000’s? Bruce Allen was aboard with Jon Gruden handling the personnel choices as well as free agency. Uncle Al. Give it up. If your idol offensive gurul Sid Gilman (an icon in his time) were still alive, he would tell you to wake up and get with the times, turn the football operation over to a young dynamic football guy. An no, your last will and testament stating that the Raiders will continue to run a 4-3 with a deep free safety and no blitzing is unenforceable. Raider fans, thats it in a nutshell. Period. End of story
October 7th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
The problem is that when you are choosing between branch and mitchell is like choosing to be either kicked or punched.
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call them bagel & english muffin because these guys are great at being toasted!
October 7th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
And I swear Jerry can tell the sky is falling and half of them will run for cover. lol
October 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
2nd time in 3months that McClain hasnt been around because of family problems
October 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
The Raiders defensive scheme sucks and doesn’t utilize the players strengths on defense and put them in a position to succeed.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
2nd time in 3months that McClain hasnt been around because of family problems
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you got $40 million. get your family out of the hood!
October 7th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Chargers 31
Raiders 17
Prove me wrong Raider coaches and players!
Sheesh…
October 7th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
The Raiders defensive scheme sucks and doesn’t utilize the players strengths on defense and put them in a position to succeed.
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Per Al Davis, because it’s the same regardless of HC or DC.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
whats up DK?
make up your mind right now …
are you rooting for the W’s this season or staying on the Lakers bandwagon still?
October 7th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
2nd time in 3months that McClain hasnt been around because of family problems
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Exactly, and something is fishy about this.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
At least R Brown will be in the right gap, hit someone and wrap up.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Groves has my vote for biggest off season acquisition bust.
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really?
I vote for the mail carrier who forgot to deliver Tom Cable’s termination letter!
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That doe not equate? We have the same letter carrier from last year who forgot to deliver Tom Cable’s termination letter. He is on scholarship, per AL.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
i totally agree TJ. name 1 person in here who didnt whine that DMAC was a piece of garbage who needed to be cut. he has a few good games and ten its “i told you so”.
thats why i dont post too often, some of these guys are kinda annoying.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
More than I can say for the other 3 turds
October 7th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Kell, have you ever listened to a stand up comedian named Roy Wood Jr ???
that guy is hilarious. check him out
October 7th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
name 1 person in here who didnt whine that DMAC was a piece of garbage who needed to be cut
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Dakota!
(and myself)
October 7th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Kell, have you ever listened to a stand up comedian named Roy Wood Jr ???
that guy is hilarious. check him out
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Not that I know of, but….yeah.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Someone ought to be telling this team CLEARLY that there’s nothing to be laughing about – They are the sole possessor of last place in the AFC-W.
They should also be made aware that the rest of the league is not laughing WITH them but rather AT them.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Never once did I see anyone say that DMAC should be cut, and I am on here as much as anyone.
Some tongue and cheek “trade DMAC for…..” jokes but that’s all.
Anyways, the guy got hurt, again, on zero contact.
The durability question on DMAC is still out there.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
October 7th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Just looked, the only time Darren has played more than 7 games in a row, was when a few of those games he has gotten 3-4 touches.
Looked great so far, best he ever has, but what if he sits out 2-3 weeks and Bush looks just as good?
October 7th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Some tongue and cheek “trade DMAC for…..” jokes but that’s all.
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BS
October 7th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
“There was no shortage of laughing and joking as they went through the paces at something less than half speed.
We’ll assume the intensity picks up once the prying eyes are sent from the field.”
BFD. I’m not going to draw a whole lot about how a team’s going to play Sunday afternoon from their demeanor during warm-ups at Thursday’s practice.
Nice attempt to incite a riot, Jerry.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Did you ever see anyone propose a serious trade proposal KK?
Like trade Darren for a 3rd rounder? or for this player?
Nope, just a bunch of slapstick stuff. People certainly doubted his abilities, myself included, but I don’t remember anybody just flat out saying “cut this guy”.
Now Gradkowski, different story. Some people wanted to keep Colt Brennan over him during the preseason, based on really nothing but hatred of Bruce Gradkowski.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RaydaSwagger Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
2nd time in 3months that McClain hasnt been around because of family problems
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Exactly, and something is fishy about this.
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Is this code for Crohns disease is hereditary?
October 7th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Never once did I see anyone say that DMAC should be cut, and I am on here as much as anyone.
Some tongue and cheek “trade DMAC for…..” jokes but that’s all.
Anyways, the guy got hurt, again, on zero contact.
The durability question on DMAC is still out there.
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Stange how the guy never was injured in college…
October 7th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
BFD. I’m not going to draw a whole lot about how a team’s going to play Sunday afternoon from their demeanor during warm-ups at Thursday’s practice.
Nice attempt to incite a riot, Jerry.
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Maybe not, but taken in conjunction with 30-86 and 6 winning seasons in the last 21 years……………
October 7th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
I guess in the SEC you could hit someone with your shoulder and they would fall down…. It doesnt work that way in the NFL, Ro Mc.
At least K Morrison led the team in tackles (not our 2 safeties)
October 7th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Rossee since when has Gruden EVER handled personnel? Bruce was a capologist and spokesperson.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Now Gradkowski, different story. Some people wanted to keep Colt Brennan over him during the preseason, based on really nothing but hatred of Bruce Gradkowski.
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Actually, I remember someone saying that he couldn’t carry Russell’s luggage. Or something like that. Meanwhile, Russell’s on the street trying to get off the drank and Grads is the starter. hmmm…
And there’s still a lot of hatred for the kid. So are those guys annoying too? Or just the ones that called out DMAC?
October 7th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
damn i was watching the replay last night, ablout 10:somthing in the first quarter, mcclain was in shaubs face and the defender had his shirt stretched out three feet behind him no call, dump off tho the rb for about 20+ yds. someone needs to file a greivence agianst thos ebaasturds
October 7th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
whats so funny about 1-3,with tons of hamstring injuries.most of these guys need to be checked for some heart….if they get whacked this week the season is probably over
October 7th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
whatever bro my point was everyone said he sucked.
after week 3 hes a hero.
my point is that ideas in here are rediculous.
whoever just said Groves is a bum worst off-season acquisition…really dude? we got a 1st rounder for a 5th rd pick, did u think he was a pro bowler? hes been better than jags fans made us think he’d be.
just another example of the odd posts people leave in here.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Stange how the guy never was injured in college…
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Very strange, because in the NFL he has always been pretty physical and never has gotten hurt by a big hit or anything.
It’s turf toe when dragged down from behind, hamstring pull while running to the sideline and the like.
Either way, it can’t keep happening every year.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
rolando is a 3-4 lb,not a 4-3 lb.he has some adjustments.plus the d-line does not keep blockers off him.too bad for him.alabama has a better d scheme than oakland
October 7th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
# LhayeS37 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
whats so funny about 1-3,with tons of hamstring injuries.most of these guys need to be checked for some heart….if they get whacked this week the season is probably over
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Nope, i just checked my season ticket booklet. 5 more fun filled Sundays to go.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Groves has missed many an open-field tackle the last few weeks, resulting in big plays.
Probably the Raiders fault for playing him out of position, but his whiff on Beanie Wells in the AZ game was laughable. Unblocked, with the play running right to him, and I don’t even think he touched him.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
lamar houston is playing out of position.he is a dt with some quicks.should not be at de
October 7th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Too bad Turd fans!!!
http://slumwords.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/note-to-self-its-raiders-week/
October 7th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
I don’t think we can really pinpoint a player or two who’s making this defense bad..Huffs’ shoddy tackling and Branch getting burned stand out because they’re on the back end of the plays, but the scheme is flawed. If you’re going 1v1 all over the field, that’s just bad news waiting to happen. If 1 guy gets pulled out of position or gets picked up by his blocker in the front 7, chances are it’s going to be a big play because the ball carrier is going that way. This team does not attack certain gaps to eliminate the run, they are playing 1 on 1 matchup ball, and that is the biggest problem with this defense. There are personell issues as well, but until the schemes get better, these problems will continue to exist.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
man i dont wanna see pics of fags
October 7th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
raiders22 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
we got a 1st rounder for a 5th rd pick,
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Second rounder.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
he is outta position JFB. hiw many DE’s can make 1 on 1 tackles, not many.
see we went through an offseason of acquiring 3-4 personnell, then Al was woken from his coma during training camp and told Basic Cable that “The Raiduhs dont play the 3-4 anymore.” so now we’re stuck with 3-4 players and a 1972 4-3 scheme.
Besides kickers, return men, an JaWalrus Russell i really cant place blame on a player on this team. they have essentially no chance playing for this organization and they no it. say what you want about Crabtree but when they showed him after the Raiders picked DHB the truth came out. even a guy about to get paid millions was happy to get passed by us.
humiliating
October 7th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RAIDERS ARE THE WORST TACKLING TEAM IN THE NFL,BAR NONE
October 7th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
LhayeS37 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RAIDERS ARE THE WORST TACKLING TEAM IN THE NFL,BAR NONE
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This is true, but the question is why? Answer… there is no design to get 2 or 3 players to 1 spot to foil a play, it’s predicated on everyone beating their man far too often
October 7th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Stange how the guy never was injured in college…
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Very strange, because in the NFL he has always been pretty physical and never has gotten hurt by a big hit or anything.
It’s turf toe when dragged down from behind, hamstring pull while running to the sideline and the like.
Either way, it can’t keep happening every year.
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Just plain Raider bad luck. The turf toe thing can happen anywhere. I was playing pickup b-ball in college and I just stuck my foot in the floor to pivot on D and I got turf toe on the ball of my right big toe…took two years before it fully healed….
I can’t explain the hamstring issues this team has this year….never seen anything like it….other than in a softball league with a bunch of bear bellied players trying to run for the first time in 9 months!
October 7th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Furthermore… we have all pash rushers on the dline, which would be fine if we had the Colts or Patriots offense, but we’re not scoring so fast and getting teams off the field early to force them into passing situations. The reason the defense looked so good against the Eagles last year? They are a pass happy bunch who played right into our hands..And there was actual pressure packages for once
October 7th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
going to the game this week to see the streak finally end. we will find a way to wint this game…..i hope
October 7th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Kobe 2-15 v. Barcelona…oh schyt! That is Allen Iverson-like!
October 7th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
raiders22 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
he is outta position JFB. hiw many DE’s can make 1 on 1 tackles, not many.
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Definately out of position.
And yes many DE are going to struggle with 1-1 tackles in space, but they shouldn’t at the LOS.
If Groves isn’t going to make a tackle when he is not only not blocked, but not even accounted for, when is he ever going to?
October 7th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
i do recall that play, he whiffed terribly, looked like he was falling down for no reason!
October 7th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
8 players with bad hamstrings
that more than soft players that a terrible training program
October 7th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Wonder if McClain’s poor game had anything to do with the fact a sick family member was dying?
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Family and friends very poor health conditions can have adverse psychological effect on most anyone.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Chargers 31
Raiders 17
Prove me wrong Raider coaches and players!
Sheesh!
Someone names Mike Tolbert will go over 100 yards and score a TD??
October 7th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Raider Fans,
Check out these two idiots:
http://behindenemylines.yahoo.com/
The game is a blackout but I’ll be in the stadium to hopefully see an end to the 13 game losing streak.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
I’m not sure what games a lot of you have been watching, but we’ve been blitzing more lately and playing a soft cover 2 defense, which is why Branch has been victimized sever times in his deep half of the field.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
several
October 7th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
priesttj. Gruden and Allen as a tandem “strongly suggested” personnel acquisitions and cuts to Uncle Al. For example, Do you really think that Rich Gannon would have been signed to a free agent contract had Gruden and/or Allen not insisted on it? Gannon, like Hostetler during the LA days, was brought in because of a suspect offensive line. For your information, Amy Trask has more say in personnel than the coaching staff. Unfortunately its a sorry, sorry state of affairs.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
have you guys seen this…
http://behindenemylines.yahoo.com/
October 7th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Good news/ bad news….
The good news: The game WILL be on ch.2 in SO-CAL, won’t have to go to the local dive to see it…
The bad news: IF we’re getting our butts kicked by half time, I’ll have plenty of time to channel my anger into washing all three of my vehicles……
October 7th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
# kokomo Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Raider Fans,
Check out these two idiots:
http://behindenemylines.yahoo.com/
The game is a blackout but I’ll be in the stadium to hopefully see an end to the 13 game losing streak.
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just posted this too. what a couple of d!cks
October 7th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
We’ve played more cover 2 lately, yes, but the base defense which is getting us killed against the run is the same cover 0 man to man single high saftey wich leaves Huff as the last line of defense.
October 7th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Raider75 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
have you guys seen this…
http://behindenemylines.yahoo.com/
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That was hilarious! I bet one of those dudes was Charged Up!
October 7th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
whats up DK?
make up your mind right now …
are you rooting for the W’s this season or staying on the Lakers bandwagon still?
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I’m a Laker fan bro…first and foremost and always have been since I was 8 years old.
October 7th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
I’m not sure what games a lot of you have been watching, but we’ve been blitzing more lately and playing a soft cover 2 defense, which is why Branch has been victimized sever times in his deep half of the field.
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Yeah, they have been blitzing at the wrong times…..how about blitzing on 1st down for once?
October 7th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Waiting for Jerry to post the game is BLACKED OUT…again! LOL
October 7th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Yeah sure Rossee she also rides motorcycles and does under cover work for the FBI.
October 7th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Here is how this Sunday is going to go down. The Raider offense gets off to a pathetic start. Grads throws 2 ints in the first half. Halftime Chargers 17 Raiders 3. Then, in a move of desperation, Cable puts Campbell back in the game to appease Al, hoping this will save his job. Campbell leads the team to 24 unanswered points in the second half. Raiders 27, Chargers 17. Raiders then go on a 8 game winning streak.
October 7th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Here is how this Sunday is going to go down. The Raider offense gets off to a pathetic start. Grads throws 2 ints in the first half. Halftime Chargers 17 Raiders 3. Then, in a move of desperation, Cable puts Campbell back in the game to appease Al, hoping this will save his job. Campbell leads the team to 24 unanswered points in the second half. Raiders 27, Chargers 17. Raiders then go on a 8 game winning streak.
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If Grads goes down….JC will not lead this team anywhere near 24 unanswered points…let alone 12 unanswered.
October 7th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
I want to know what the real deal is with McClain. He’s making tons of money. I agree this sounds fishy. You can’t count on the Raiders telling us the truth on this; they may be, but u can’t count on it.
Someone suggested he’s gone AWOL. Is that possible? If so, why? He doesn’t like playing for Oakland and he’s gonna protest?
October 7th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Why wouldn’t Gannon have signed as a FA without Bruce and Gruden? Gruden was the last to agree based on his own words.
Listen if you don’t know something why not ask? instead you pretend that you know and look foolish and lie your way out of it.
Bruce didn’t have much if anything to do with personnel decisions in Oakland that was Mike Lombardi’s dept.
October 7th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
His attitude is wierd…He missed time during training camp due to (family problems)…He wont say anything to reporters but he’s done alot of interviews @ Bama…Whats going on here???
October 7th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Raider Ray is drinking the Purple Drank again
October 7th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
rumor has it his Grandpa passed away during training camp and the same Grandpa passed away on Monday.
Family deaths are almost always more difficult the second time they pass.
October 7th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
priesttj Are you related to uncle al? Al didn’t want anything to do with Gannon. Period. I have forgotten more about Raider football than you will ever know. I guess you aren’t smart enough to figure out sarcasm. Facts are facts. Today’s football has passed Al buy. His insecurities led to Wolfs, Gruden’s and Allen’s departure. He is typical business owner that wants yes men with no dynamic or original thinking. That messes up their culture. The employees, in this case the culture have no clue what the plan is. Its the I will draft the players based on my ways and theories and your job is to develop them using my (archaic) systems. Uncle Al would rather lose with his methods than win with today’s methods. Marshall actually had his butt handed to him for having the audacity to blitz with (his) zone blitz packages against Cinn and Pitts last year. Regarding McClain, lets put it this way. Not comparing them but Ray Lewis would have trouble with this defensive scheme. Why? Because Lewis is able to improvise. Uncle Al’s system would restrict him. Im been sick over the last 8 years. This once proud franchise needs a makeover.
October 8th, 2010 at 3:53 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Wonder if McClain’s poor game had anything to do with the fact a sick family member was dying?
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reason he dont talk to media…so ease him up Jerry dudes got alot of family issues from day