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Cable: Raiders are accountable

News, notes and quotes from Friday’s practice, group interviews with running back Bush and linebacker Trevor Scott, and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:

— Cable believes the Raiders players are past the point of deflecting blame and can finally look themselves in the mirror after a mistake.

`I think the accountability has gotten where it needs to be now,’’ Cable said. “It’s not a matter of how we did this or what we called, or whatever this or that is. It’s on all of us and we recognize that, and I think we take responsibility for it now.

“That’s really, really huge for us, for this football team, because it’s the first time in the four years I’ve been here where guys man up and say, hey, that’s on me. So that’s a good thing. The next step is you can’t let it happen.’’

— Officially listed as out for the Chargers game Sunday are WR Chaz Schilens (knee), LG Robert Gallery (hamstring), RB Michael Bennett (hamstring), LB Travis Goethel (lower back) and DT John Henderson (stress fracture).

Listed as questionable are LB Ricky Brown (hamstring), LB Quentin Groves (hamstring), CB Walter McFadden (hamstring) and CB Jeremy Ware (ankle). All were listed as having limited participation in practice.

Listed as probable are QB Bruce Gradkowski (A-C joint), TE Zach Miller (hip), S Hiram Eugene (hamstring) and CB Chris Johnson (ankle).

LB Rolando McClain returned to practice after two days off because of a personal issue and will start at middle linebacker.

— The Raiders pass rush was negated by a Houston rushing attack that kept the front seven on its heels. Trevor Scott, moved from end to outside linebacker this week with injuries to Groves and Howard, was asked what it would take to get the pass rush going and said, “I’m going to do it this week. I’ve got it.’’

Might that mean a lot of blitzing, given that Scott will play linebacker (Cable said Scott would start even if Groves recovers enough to be active)?

“I’m going to be all over the place,’’ Scott said. “That’s all I know.’’

—The seemingly endless wait for the debut of wide receiver/return specialist Nick Miller will come against the Chargers, Cable said.

Miller made the Raiders last season on the basis of a strong training camp, only to discover that what was originally diagnosed as shin splints was actually a broken shin bone.

For reasons never fully explained, Miller stayed on the 53-man roster for 15 games before going on injured reserve for the final game, and was listed every week as “not active.’’

Miller had another solid camp and made the team again this season, only to find himself inactive in Week 1. He wore the Raiders uniform in a regular-season game for the first time in Week 2 against the Rams, but was the only player suited up who didn’t get into the game.

He was active but didn’t step on the field in Weeks 2 or 3, either.

Against San Diego, Cable said Miller would play as a punt return specialist _ he was fielding punts along with Johnnie Lee Higgins _ and on special teams.

If the Raiders wanted to get creative, Miller had his own package of plays during each of the last two training camps which have never been used in regular-season game.

“Because of our injury situation, he’s going to have to help us in some teams and things like that. He’s a very energetic guy, naturally, so he’ll bring some energy to the game, that’s for sure,’’ Cable said. “He wants to get out there and go.’’

– Defensive coordinator John Marshall isn’t the only one surprised at the inability of the Raiders defense to force turnovers. Oakland has only five takeaways, and two of those were gift punt muffs by Arizona.

The other three were a sack fumble of Vince Young in the opener and interceptions by Groves and Stanford Routt.

“We seem to be late. If a ball’s tipped we’ve gotten a couple of those,’’ Cable said. “It’s just go get the football with an aggressive style. I don’t quite think we’re there yet.’’

— While McFadden’s speed and versatility will be missed in the backfield, the fact is that in terms of breakaway ability, his track record doesn’t match that of Michael Bush as a Raider.

In his last 26 games, dating back to a 50-yard run in Week 2 against Kansas City, McFadden’s longest run is 33 yards. During that span, Bush has runs of 67, 60 and 40 yards.

“Some guys to me have that innate ability, that when they get through they can make the safety miss and go, and he’s shown that,’’ Cable said.

Through three four games, McFadden was averaging just over 25 touches per game with 85 runs from scrimmage and 16 receptions, a workload Bush hopes to duplicate.

“I’ll be doing the same thing he was doing when I was out,’’ Bush said. “If he got the ball a lot, I expect to do the same thing if that’s the way the coaches are going to go. Whatever’s thrown my way, I’m ready.’’

— Cable, an unabashed New York Yankees fan who hasn’t been above gloating to a press corps member who is a Twins fan, conceded that Tim Lincecum would be good enough to pitch for his team.

“If George (Steinbrenner) was alive, he’d buy him tomorrow,’’ Cable said.

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  • Hobs Gnarly

    lol, oh i am scared. did you say that in a mr. t accent?

  • Hobs Gnarly

    priest,

    that is the truth and if you can’t handle it or if your paid to TRY and sway the opinion of FANS then your doing a piss poor job, because you said dhb is a developing wide receiver taken as a high draft status, which is exactly my point.

  • priesttj

    Look you’re a incoherent nut with an attitude nothing you say is true………….now move on.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    why because you said so….try to contradict what i just said instead of saying “shut up fool”. Does al make the mistake in taking his guys too high in the draft? tell me how they are not projects? if an nfl team takes someone in the first round are they not expected to contribute and not be developed. if your saying and you did that it’s taking 3-4 years to develop dhb then it’s you who should shut up fool! cheese and rice.

  • Hobs Gnarly

    tj how much or what do you get to have al’s back on the blog?

  • priesttj

    Having Al’s back what does that have to do with anything? I just aint interested in talking to nutjobs.

    keep it moving please…

    I’ll comeback when someone worth talking to is in here.

    Adios….

  • Hobs Gnarly

    oh gosh my feelings are hurt, al’s patsytj won’t talk to me. look you can predict the way al feels about a player or coach just by reading what priest has to say. when was the last time you liked one of our many head coaches?

  • 310 Raider-scum

    zzzzz! Shocking Asmougha will perform the pick 6, finally Rivers will have the balls to throw it his way. Almost gave up hope last week, blitz package like the Philly game last year.

  • mac

    Give it a rest will you Priest,you used to put up half decent posts but now your wrong on most things.
    Fans dont know what they’re talking about? And your what?
    A fan like us,,tell you something?
    “I’ve been in the building”,,,20 dollar tour
    “i’ve watched these youngkids”,,while jacking off,,,paedo
    On a lighter note
    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    October 8th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
    Wow Ndamukong Suh donated 2 million to his Alma Mater … I still wish we picked that kid up
    Al picking players instead of trackstars,,lol,and ps,hate the chargers,,break the streak guys,,,

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    `I think the accountability has gotten where it needs to be now,’’ Cable said. “It’s not a matter of how we did this or what we called, or whatever this or that is. It’s on all of us and we recognize that, and I think we take responsibility for it now.

    “That’s really, really huge for us, for this football team, because it’s the first time in the four years I’ve been here where guys man up and say, hey, that’s on me. So that’s a good thing. The next step is you can’t let it happen.’’

    ——

    What a load of BS, and typical Cable babble.
    Accountability = people losing their starting jobs or actual job, from poor performances.

  • raidermarty

    God I HATE the chargers.Would love to see some pressure on rivers and effective run D tomorrow.
    Gotta break that damn streak sometime!
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TerrapinRaider

    A few thoughts:

    Since when did DHB become the scapegoat of the game? The guy had an injuried groin and played though it. Had 1 catch and 2 very difficult opportunities. All the while clearing the way for ZM to have a monster game.

    Man, Murphy causes all hope to fade as a very catchable ball bounces off his body, through his hands, and DHB get all the blame. W.T.F? Seriously.

    The problem with the game was clear as day – the defense needed to stop Houston’s run game and they kept failing. Thats really what it came down to.

    It had very little to do with DHB – he just serves as your scapegoat every week. Its pretty ridiculous.

  • TerrapinRaider

    In other news: Hue Jackson is the man!

    We finally have a bonafide offense that scores POINTS and plenty of them.

    The Raiders offense is currently ranked 9th in yds and 17th in pts. And best of all is its not a fluke!

    This, even as 1.5 games out of 4 was saddled by inept QB play in JCamp.

  • TerrapinRaider

    And for the record:

    DHB 11/149 12.9ypc 0TDs
    Crabdiva 11/139 12.6ypc 0TDs

    Through 4 games (and 1 where DHB had groin issues) doesn’t look like Crabdiva is doing better accross the Bay …but hey, in this world of popular myth who is keeping track – hence no one even mentions the guy who THEY believe “should” have been the #7 pick.

  • TerrapinRaider

    This is a marathon not a sprint. By next year DHB will surplant Crabdiva as the unquestioned most productive WR out of the two.

    First year, Crabdiva seriosly outshined DHB. Second year, so far neck and neck. Third year will be for DHB. You can see the momentum. You can see it happening.

  • big pep

    GET RID OF THAT FAT GORILLA THAT IS CABLE, CANT STAND TO READ HIS BLAH,BLAH, BLAH,BLAH,BLAH, AND HIS SORRY ASSS O-LINE.

  • TerrapinRaider

    I would say we have a chance to beat the dolts only if I had confidence that the defense can stop them. But I’m not so confident.

    Maybe the move of TScott back to LB and shadowing the line; and MShaun getting more snaps at DE will make the difference. This is the lineup we saw most preseason. Maybe. Only Sunday will determine this

  • ghosttothepost

    It’s kind of funny that the slogan “Just Win Baby” is forever and indelibly etched on the Raiders image because that’s exactly what they need to do this weekend — Just Win Baby.

  • ghosttothepost

    Win or they are staring down the wrong end of a double-barreled shotgun again. A 1-4 start translates to a 3-13 (or best case) 4-12 finish. Reality sucks, yes?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    TerrapinRaider,

    That was me that threw a critique DHB’s way.

    1st: We can’t have starting receivers with 1 catch for 2 yards. That’s garbage…rookie or not.

    2nd: I am not from the Bay Area. I could give a damn if Crabtree does better or worse than DHB. For me, its ONLY about DHB and if he’s helping this team.

    3rd: Just clearing space is not his job. His job is to catch the ball and get yards. I have seen 1 game where he’s even contributed.

    That’s not good enough. THe Raiders as a team is garbage because the team and the fans excuse this poor performance from WAAAAY too many players. Just like an earlier poster said….you want accountability, start taking away starting jobs.

    DHB doesn’t have to dominate a game. Not expecting that from a rookie (which in my eyes he still is)….but he’s gotta contribute receptions and yards….not just decoy.

    He’s holding back the offense when we are playing down a player…figuratively speaking

  • http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE&feature=related exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    You’re right Cable. Accountability! You need to be accountable for the poor development of players on the OL, not being able to get the refs to call time outs,your won loss record as a Head Coach, and all the other F-Ups you have caused this season.

    Fire Cable!

  • zopi

    Cable accountable!!???
    That’ll be the day, never has never will be. But as I said this fits exactly his part in this season’s tragedy. He will spin and spin to keep his job until the end of the season. He’s still is a lame duck coach with a bleak future as coach in the NFL.
    The dolts players are taking this game as a bye, sure Rivers doesn’t care to call out and openly challenge Nnamdi and will probably expose him.
    I think that the dolts will look to take out Gradkz early and then win it big and easy when Campbell plays. I can’t see how the Raider defense will be able to stop the dolts offense.

  • Just Fire Baby

    DHB has improved dramatically from last year, but he was supposed to be our big-play threat, and he still has a goose-egg for his career on any deep passes.

    I have been encouraged by his YAC this year. That shows a growing level of comfort, but right before Murphy’s drop last week, he wasn’t even ready for a pass that he was open on.

    I put the throw on extreme slow-motion. Bruce did throw it a tad behind him, but DHB’s reaction to the ball was terrible, and it did still hit him in his elbow.

    Any WR worth his salts who can get an elbow on the ball, has to catch it.

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    “It’s not a matter of how we did this or what we called, or whatever this or that is.”

    What the hell is that supposed to mean? And whatever that ‘JaCable-speak’ means it has no relation to the term ‘accountability’.

    “It’s on all of us and we recognize that, and I think we take responsibility for it now.”

    That they’re taking responsibility NOW is such a spin like “look RaiderNation, we’re righting the ship NOW, not all the 4 weeks of pre-season or 2 months of camp, we and i as coach didnt ever tell them about taking responsibility, we just went thru the motions not caring and not coaching EVEN THO i spent that whole time selling more press-conference BS about the Raiders are finally gonna be a hard-hitting team that makes playoffs etc etc.

    “That’s really, really huge for us,”

    Hate the way Cable talks, like he’s from the set of The Hills with all his “really really” and “like you know” babble.

    “for this football team”

    Is there a need to add this on? Babble.

    “because it’s the first time in the four years I’ve been here where guys man up and say, hey, that’s on me.”

    Again, what were you doing in those four years as a coach where players never took responsibility for anything? And doesn’t this just contradict your statement about how it’s not on any one person but on all of us?

    “So that’s a good thing.”

    No sheet?

    “The next step is you can’t let it happen.’

    That thing of how Raiders Training Camp lasts till about week 12 of the season before we start the right people, roster the right people, start preparing and coaching and playing like professionals. The NEXT step after all off-season, training camp, a month of pre-season, a month of regular season is now finally about TRYING to not have lackluster play/coaching?

  • http://atm Raider O

    Fire Marshall and Waufle too! This Defense should be better than what it is. We have talent (Nnamdi, Seymour, Wimbley, McClain, DE/DT Houston, T Scott, etc…)

    Hue Jackson is on thin ice too!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    JFB,

    Deep threat or not….you gotta have catches. Your boy Gradkowski is trying to get DHB the ball…in fact, I think trying to get the ball to the receivers were the root causes of all the sacks and turnovers.

    They don’t get open…..all DHB does is clear space. Name me one receiver who was known JUST for clearing space.

    Gradkowski got the nod because he produced on the field and others didn’t.

    Why is DHB on the field as a starter? Rotate him like Jhill said until he starts making catches.

    For all the hate on JLH, the guy gets you 2 or 3 in limited time……

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    GG,

    Spot on! Accountability through taking away jobs. That’s what other teams do. Raiders baby these players and have limited competition in camp…just hand out jobs based on draft status or contracts or owner discretion…

    Then they bust out during the season or whatever…and we still don’t have a solid lineup anywhere.

    Thy have 8 months to prepare…well in the Raiders case its 10 months because the season is usually over by now.

    GEt competente management

  • http://atm Raider O

    I forgot to add John Henderson to my list.

    This team is better than 1-3. Look at KC! Do they have a better QB, better RBs, better WRs, better Defense, or is it coaching?!?!
    The answer is NO (they don’t have better talent), but they do have better coaching!

    Upgrade from basic Cable, and lose the Waufle!

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think most of the hate on JLH comes from his piss-poor punt returns and penchant for running the wrong routes and not finishing his routes sometimes.

    But when focused, he may be our most polished WR, which is laughable considering my previous paragraph.

    DHB, for all his speed and size, is not a deep-threat. You actually have to have made a play or three going deep to be any type of threat.

    He is 0-for his career.

  • http://atm Raider O

    JLH is a retard, but he can catch.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Raider O,

    Coaching matters. Until the Raiders realize this, they are going to struggle.

    What concerns me most going into a game is not the plodding performance of certain players…its the most likely probability that the opponent is going to have a much better game plan and be better prepared

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    But JLH gets us a couple of catches in limited time.

    I say start him. Have DHB rotate in the slot with Ford or something.

    All I am looking for is 3 or 4 catches from the receiver. That’s all!

    And right now, we aren’t getting that. And you aren’t winning games when your leading receiver has 1 or 2 catches….BTW, JLH was the leading “Wide Receiver” last week.

  • djohnnyg

    I think it’s ridiculous that we have the highest paid team in the league, and yet Al Davis can’t even put a team together that can stop a team from having a 14 game winning streak against us.

    It would seem logical that if you have the HIGHEST PAYROLL you would most likely have some of the best players, but noooooooooo, we have to sit here and beg, plead, and pray that we can beat a rival who doesn’t spend nearly as much.

    Why if we have the HIGHEST PAYROLL in the league can we not be at the very least a .500 team?

    You wouldn’t think the team that spends more $ on players than any other would suck this bad, and we have to sit here as a 61/2 point underdog at home to a team that isn’t even considered in the NFL elite.

    This is nuts.

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    SnB Off/Def/Spec…

    Yeah, it’s so frustrating. It’s like the Raiders still think it’s 2004, only a year removed from a Super Bowl. While the rest of the league is in 2010. Things move so slow. The whole org seems to dawdle thru the weeks and months. Coaches/Al take forever to do anything. And it’s the same every season. By week 8 mathematically out of the playoff race, they then decide to TRY to start ATTEMPTING to do things, cutting players, addressing positions of need, etc.

    Also, I think Cable is just trying to hang onto an NFL HC paycheck. Just towing the line and saying whatever spin to keep the Raider fans hopeful and deluded. It’s like he’s just the messenger, PCs rolling out all that fake enthusiasm of school camp pep-talks.

    “we’re really really starting to attempt to turn a page now, it’s really really huge, for us, you know, like the football team, and us, you know the coaching staff, by that i mean we and us, and whatever it is that needs to be done we’re gonna get it done, that 40-3 blowout with 757 rushing yards and 47 sacks i dont understand, i mean we prepared all week, like you know, but i thought we hung in there and we’ll get back to the drawing boards and really really light this thing up, you know, this thing that is the Raiders you know.”

  • http://atm Raider O

    -Murphy is the new TO. He will have 4-6 catches/ game, but he will have a few drops that will cost us.
    -Chaz can’t stay healthy.
    -DHB needs more time to develop. He was raw when we drafted him.
    -JLH is a Retard, but he has great speed and good hands. He shouldn’t return punts!
    -Ford is a rookie, but I like his potential.

    -Miller the DB Killer needs to play, or we need to cut him.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Djohnnyg,

    That’s a result of a lot of top 10 picks that don’t become Superstars but just guys.

    It’s a result of overpaying to lure/keep free agents like Nnamdi, Seabass, Lechler, TK, CJ, Routt, Campbell, Seymour (franchise).

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    GG,

    My thoughts exactly. Being Raider head coach pays about $2M a year. I’ll run interference for $2M a year

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Raider O,

    We just need a receiver to rope in 3 catches a game. Murphy catches some and spectacularly drops some…of course what do you expect from a 4th round pick thrusted into starting before he’s ready.

    DHB? I am still waiting!

  • http://atm Raider O

    SnB,

    Well said bro.
    Mr. Davis needs to hire a good HC (J Harbaugh, or bring Gruden back. This team would be perfect for him: Good RBs, 2 Vet QBs, and an OK Defense), and also add a guy like Bruce Allen.

  • http://atm Raider O

    SnB,

    Sanjay Lal!!!!!

  • djohnnyg

    “we’re really really starting to attempt to turn a page now, it’s really really huge, for us, you know, like the football team, and us, you know the coaching staff, by that i mean we and us, and whatever it is that needs to be done we’re gonna get it done, that 40-3 blowout with 757 rushing yards and 47 sacks i dont understand, i mean we prepared all week, like you know, but i thought we hung in there and we’ll get back to the drawing boards and really really light this thing up, you know, this thing that is the Raiders you know.”
    ——–

    Ha. Great Cable impression.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    DHB looks thicker this year. Looks about 5-10 lbs heavier than last year and a half step slower. Think it’s a combination of his body maturing and lots of lifting.

    Still has world class speed, but somehow doesn’t seem to get separation. Needs to work on his routes, and be more sudden.

    And of course, those hands still seem very shaky.

    Yes, he’s improved, but there’s still a long way to go. He’s not a natural and is going to struggle until he can refine his game. Hopefully, if he’s working as hard as reported, it will eventually pay off.

  • kidseven

    Nick Miller is a great return man. Get over it.

  • http://atm Raider O

    We have a young group of WRs, most (if not all) of them are still learning, so we help them by adding WRs coach Sanjay Lal.

    Cable is an idiot, and Hue Jackson needs to improve his play calling.

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    Cable is both out of his depth and has no business being a HC, whilst also hog-tied by Al’s insistence on a range of stuff. So a HC, these no-names that Al likes to hire, are just shills, doing his bidding, putting on a PC-face of fake enthusiasm (like Al himself always does in PC’s with the “the fire burns bright in me, the desire to win, we’ll get this thing going again, just you wait and see, c’mon RaiderNation, buy this BS-spin and buy merchandise and tickets, this new playuh i signed he reminds me of Howie Long, you remember him don’t you RaiderNation, he was great, so get excited about this new Howie, and this new Plunkett, and this new Branch, i drop these names to get you all misty-eyed.”

    These no-name coaches we have are just there to repeat all this BS every week about turning things around, getting back to the drawing boards, we’ll “fix this”, said week 1 thru to week 8-9 till we’re mathematically out of the race, try to blow air up the fans azzes.

    Now the new talk is…”these fans, only 30,000 they’re not buying the 7 year old spin, they recognize there’s no accountability, so Tom, go out there and talk up about all this NEW accountability even tho everything you say will actually NOT show there’s any real accountability going on, either by the owner/gm, or the coaches or the players. No one loses their jobs, until my HC starts to lose the fans, starts to stray from the company line in PC’s and pinning the blame on the owner/gm’s ‘no accountability’ org.”

    Now im babbling grr.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Nick Miller, The Roster Spot Killer needs to show us what he can do this week, or he should be cut.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Raiderman99,

    DHB should not be starting if refining his game means we only get 1 catch a game….He’s gotta pull in at least 3…DAMN….

    Gradkowski is targeting him way too much to come out of games with 1 catch…rookie or not.

    If he’s struggling, which in my opinion he is, then rotate him in until he gets his game straight.

    Just like you can’t win without stopping the run…you can’t win when you top receiver can’t get more than a catch for two yards….or no catches at all…..can’t win.

    Need to iron this garbage out in camp.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Can we trade JaJason to the Cards or Bills please ?

    They probably know he’s a useless turd, but they’re so desperate they just might give us the 4th we paid for him.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    3 catches a game = 48 catches a season…..

    I’ll cut him a break…get me 2.5 per game

  • http://atm Raider O

    Look at how we lost the last 2 games, and you will understand that coaching cost us those 2 games.
    Don’t blame the kicker who missed 2 FGs, sweating like a research monkey, but blame the HC who had enough time to try to score a TD but called in the Kicker.