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Cable needs Raiders to reverse AFC West woes

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, October 9th, 2010 at 3:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Many of you have had enough of the constant update (usually on the back end) of 30-86.

That represents, of course, the Raiders won-loss record over the past seven-plus seasons since the 48-21 loss to Tampa Bay in Super Bowl XXXVII.

Believe it or not, there are even worse subsets of won-loss records than 30-86 and its .259 winning percentage.

The Raiders are fond of reminding everyone in their weekly press release that they are the last AFC West team to go to the Super Bowl as well as the only division team to qualify for the playoffs in each of the last five decades.

What they leave out, understandably, is that against the teams they want to beat the most, they’re faring much worse than they are against the rest of the league.

Against division opponents over the last seven seasons, the Raiders are 8-34, a .190 winning percentage.

It gets worse.

Over the last seven years, the Raiders are 2-19 against AFC West teams at home, an almost-impossible-to-fathom-in-an-age-of-parity percentage of .095.

One of those wins was a 34-31 win over San Diego in overtime on Sept. 28, 2003, after which Oakland began a 13-game losing streak to the Chargers which the Raiders hope to end Sunday at the Coliseum.

The only other AFC West win at the Coliseum since then was a 34-20 win over Denver in 2007.

The Raiders have won more times in division games at Arrowhead Stadium (three) and as many times at Mile High Stadium (twice) as they’ve won in Oakland since 2003.

Included on the home front are some of the lowest points in franchise history.

The 27-0 Week 1 humiliation against Chargers in Art Shell’s second debut, for instance.

Or the 41-14 loss to the Broncos in Oakland to open the 2008 season.

Each Tuesday during my on-line chats, the question of Tom Cable’s job security comes up (as well as in e-mails almost daily almost immediately.

My answer has been the same. Davis has only fired two coaches during the season _ Mike Shanahan in 1989 and Lane Kiffin in 2008. Both were regarded as insubordinate by Davis. Shanahan tried to fire Shell and other assistants without Davis’ consent. He hired them back and eventually fired Shanahan. The Kiffin dismissal is fresh enough that it needs no rehash.

Both times it happened following a loss against a division opponent in a home game. Shanahan fell 24-20 to the Seattle Seahawks (they moved to the NFC West in 2002) and was dumped at 1-3. Kiffin lost 28-18 to the San Diego Chargers and walked the plank at 1-3.

Cable hasn’t been insubordinate, but a non-competitive loss to a San Diego team that extends its win streak against the Raiders to 14 games ought to make him awfully uncomfortable at 1-4.

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374 Responses to “Cable needs Raiders to reverse AFC West woes”

  1. SnakeStabler Says:

    Whatever happened to the autumn wind?

  2. lefty12 Says:

    Global warming.

  3. SharkCatcher Says:

    It’s only so much a man can take.I still believe. a little bit.

  4. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    It’s been replaced by a giant sucking sound

  5. lefty12 Says:

    Another informative article Jerry.Like Raider fans need to be reminded how bad we’ve been the last 7+ years.Besides you don’t have to tell everyone,that’s KK’s job-and he does it quite well and often.

  6. stubblebuzz Says:

    If, when Davis fires Cable, he replaces him with two all-pro offensive tackles, I’ll agree it’s a good idea

  7. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    Just physicing up for the game, I guess.

  8. EMRaiders Says:

    SD 21 OAK 24.

    W vs SF
    W vs Den
    L vs Sea
    W vs KC

    5-4 at bye.

    GO RAIDERS!

  9. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    SD 35, Oak 17, we’ll give up 200 on the ground in a Keystone Kops- like display of run D.

  10. EMRaiders Says:

    Does anyone know? Is McNeil back in SD Oline?

  11. Pretty Rick Says:

    Chargers-38 Raiders-20

  12. Plunketthead Says:

    Raiders 41 New Tijuana 13

    Defense knocks Rivers out in the first quarter
    Grads/DHB breakout game
    Bush runs for 125

  13. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    How about,the ‘ol ball coach’s South Carolina GameCOCKS upsetting the Nicktator’s Alabama Crimson Tide…..

  14. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12

    I think that’s the reason KK comes in here the wya he does. He is working in concert with the media to undermine Mr Davis, I guess they think if they propagate enugh negative info fans will demand AD step down and accomplish their wishes.

    What’s silly is no one needs to do that fans are much worse than anything the media can conjure up. Money will demand results and when people spend they get what they think is their monies worth or else they’ll stop spending.

    Jerry loves rubbing this stuff in our faces to make us feel ridiculous being fans of this team. IMO that’s what being a fan(fanatic) is. Win lose or tie Raiders til we die. Anything else IMO is sacrilege.

    No one likes losing but if your a fan of any team you’re going to lose 45% of the time. Hopefully our losing is coming to an end. So we’ll see…..

  15. Plunketthead Says:

    My office insider just texted me

    He said word around the office is Al thinks Devin Thomas is a great football player and will soon be a Raider

  16. waklaboo Says:

    No, says I to my self, there ain’t nothing in it.

  17. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Raiders75……

    If you’ve ever been to Midland, Tx. Then you have a pretty good idea what Bakersfield is like, except the women are much better looking in Midland…

    Oh, the Cops in Bako are meaner than a one nutted bull…

  18. fat kidd Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
    Raiders75……

    If you’ve ever been to Midland, Tx. Then you have a pretty good idea what Bakersfield is like, except the women are much better looking in Midland…

    Oh, the Cops in Bako are meaner than a one nutted bull…

    …………….only thing in texas are queers and steers!!!!

  19. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    So who’s the next coach????

  20. lefty12 Says:

    Wait until after the season,see how things turn out and then you can speculate who the next HC will be.This isn’t baseball or basketball where in season coaching changes are the norm.You can biotch all you want but the probability is our current HC will be here all year.

  21. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I dont mind Cable…..But I dont see him hanging around if we keep losing games

  22. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Please call him Tom “5-11″ Cable. Norv is gonna have a ball against our D-line. I think Bush is going to be an upgrade over McFadden, he’s gonna break a long one….

  23. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Oakland has the talent to win against anyone. They don’t play smart aggressive football often enough.

    AGGRESSIVE

  24. Howie Longs Flattop Says:

    God Damn I hate the Bolts. I could care less about statistics from prior seasons. At the very least we need to give Rivers a concussion tomorrow.

  25. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Howie why dont you take him out when he’s walkin into the stadium…Do it for the Raider Nation

  26. lefty12 Says:

    HLF-too bad the players didn’t feel the same way.There is too much cronyism on our team-and in the whole league for that matter.It used to be you hated your rivals.I don’t know if todays players feel that way.

  27. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Im pretty sure JLH hates Weddle with a passion….

  28. mikedlopes Says:

    I just watched NFL SoundFX with Tyvon Branch & Michael Huff mic’d up..

    Tyvon likes to close his eyes and just run towards where he thinks the runner is going to be. Which didn’t seem to work.. he just ran up to an offensive blocker so he looked like he was doing something, and Huff can’t tackle.

  29. Thec07 Says:

    EMRaiders Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Does anyone know? Is McNeil back in SD Oline

    +++++++++++++=

    After siging he has to miss 3 games. He will not play in the raider game.

  30. Thec07 Says:

    The team WILL b up for the disc…We will prevail
    31-24….

  31. Thec07 Says:

    More Targets JLH, and JFORD as they both make plays and dont drop the football….

  32. Thec07 Says:

    1 Nation….Raider Nation…

    Out.

  33. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I really wanna see J.Ford out there but has he really made any plays???

  34. Try Some Reality Says:

    Man, this game is important. Let’s see….we win and, depending on the outcome of the Denver game, we could be in a 3-way tie for second place in the division, 1.5 games back of KC with a leg up on San Diego with respect to the tie breaker.

    We lose, and kiss the season goodbye. Yeah, it’s only 4 losses and it’s early but consider that we’ll have sole possession of last place, at least 2.5 games back of the division leader and in the hole with respect to any tiebreaker. Yes, we meet these teams again later in the season but we have to take care of business at home. It won’t get any easier.

    But then again, if this team loses tomorrow, they don’t deserve to compete for the division. Especially not the way that defense is playing. Terrible. We have a fairy playing FS. Bench Huff!!!

  35. lefty12 Says:

    Actually,this isn’t the best week to bench Huff as he has had pretty good success against Gates.

  36. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders 28 over San Diego 17

    Raiders will score a defensive touchdown,

    Either Mr. Ford or Mr. Higgins will score a reception touchdown,

    Mr. Bush will score again on a rushing touchdown and run for over a hundred yards.

    San Diego will no longer be #1 ranked offense the same goes for their defense.

  37. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mike I noticed the same thing, Mr. Branch just ran up to the blocker instead of the runner.

  38. mac Says:

    Fat kidd,its steers an ,queers,
    no reply Bhp,,cmon,,bite back ,,lackey
    chargers 38 oak 26,feck rivers

  39. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Lefty I also agree Mr. Huff has always played well against Gates (& Tony G).

  40. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We are thin at LB, but I like this front seven best of all:

    Houston Kelley Seymour Shaunessey

    Scott McClain Wimbley

    Raiders will need at least 4 sacks and a bunch of pressures to win this game

    and we must hold SD under a 100 yards rushing total.

  41. RaiderRetribution Says:

    If the Raiders O=line is not protecting Bruce, then they need to run at least 40-50 times.

  42. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders 28 Chargers 17

  43. mac Says:

    omfg,,lol
    and we must hold SD under a 100 yards rushing total.
    Raiders 28 Chargers 17,,,hope so but be realistic,,whats your actual thoughts and not hopes?

  44. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Bush cant run it 50 times by himself and Cartwright is a chump

  45. Raider Ray Says:

    I am so excited about tomorrow. It’s going to be like that game when Gruden and the Raiders went into Arrowhead and knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs. That turned this team around. The streak ends tomorrow! Raiders 27, Chargers 17.

  46. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Sup people?

  47. Raider Ray Says:

    I don’t understand this whole Brett Favre controversy. It’s none of the NFL’s business if a man wants to send pictures of his wang to people.

  48. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    I’m at my Auntie and Uncle’s house……Charger WR Seyi Ajirotutu is right here and major shhhhht talking is going on by him and myself. He says we have no chance to win tomorrow and I countered back with you guys have no chance to not be on PEDs……My Raider brothers sound off right now on his ass and let him know what we are gonna do to them tomorrow

  49. armond Says:

    bauce bauce!!!

  50. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Bauce big pimpin… Haha the chokers will be beat and sent home to weak ass so-cal with there tail between there legs…..

  51. armond Says:

    tell him that powder blue schit they wear is played out like them 1990’s north carolina jerseys.

  52. La Milicia Negra Says:

    #

    # Raider75 Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    GET WR DEVIN THOMAS NOW!!!!!!
    …..

    lol. why?
    _____________________________________________________

    WHY?????he is 23 years old, he is top 2nd round pick from 2008 and he is better than any of our guys beside Murphy… we can get him for peanuts and Schilens, that sissy is injureded 10 weeks out of 16 anyway…

    Thats why…

  53. mac Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    I am so excited about tomorrow. It’s going to be like that game when Gruden and the Raiders went into Arrowhead and knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs. That turned this team around. The streak ends tomorrow! Raiders 27, Chargers 17.
    Raider Ray Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    Bauce is full of crap.
    an whats your exuse? yeh lots full o crap but cmon its ok

  54. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Ask him how many catches he’s gonna have?????….Oh sorry he aint gonna have any haha

  55. mac Says:

    Lmn,,party animal,,go to bed , you on nightshift?

  56. La Milicia Negra Says:

    but no doubt, he will probably end up as a patriot… *sigh*

  57. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I wonder if thats why Nick Miller is playin….If he has a unproductive day do we drop him and sign Thomas???

  58. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # mac Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Lmn,,party animal,,go to bed , you on nightshift?
    _________________________________________________________

    actually i havent been at work since tuesday night… Im watching Formula One qualifications on the TV…

  59. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    # Raider Ray Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Bauce is full of crap.
    ***********************

    How so?

  60. mac Says:

    6 in the am race starts here,missed qualifying,who’s on pole?

  61. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Nmandi isnt as good anymore?????? Nmandi would shut that dude down and every other receiver on that team blindfolded in a wheel chair….. Ryan Matthews and Phillip cry me a Rivers are both leaving on stretchers
    **************************

    That’s what I’m saying

  62. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # mac Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    6 in the am race starts here,missed qualifying,who’s on pole?
    __________________________________________________________

    qualifying is now.. live, they had a lot of rain in Japan so see it now… Q2 just over…

  63. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Where at in Fremont I mite have to pull a Tonya Harding on Rivers

  64. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I hate Rivers with a passion

  65. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Man I cant wait til we crush them 2morrow…Hahaha got beat by the Queefs

  66. mac Says:

    Gnite sweethearts,even you Ray,,xx,,keep the faith

  67. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    # Raider Ray Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    How so Bauce? You aint hangin with no Chargers. Your’e just trying to get attention.
    ******************************

    LOL you want proof?

    Got an email?

  68. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Mac is the man…he plays no games

  69. IndianaRaider Says:

    “and we must hold SD under a 100 yards rushing total.”

    lol, thats what we said about the Titans, the Rams,the Cardinals, and the Texans, it’s not going to happen, might as well forget that dream. It’s going to be amazing to see less than 100 yards by halftime.

    Last weeks performance ring any bells?

  70. aig-raiders Says:

    man, andrew luck does look pretty good. His motion is very similar to Peyton.

  71. GhostToMost Says:

    2-19 at home against the AFC west, that is just unbelievable.

  72. Kirk Says:

    The Raiders will continue to lose until Al Davis starts drafting linemen in the first round.

  73. beach Says:

    Rivers is an arrogant SOB. I want Seymour to take his friggin’ head off! Be at the game Raider Nation, and scream until the Chargers go home a loser!

  74. Chris in NY Says:

    First play I want to see a play-action fly pattern bomb to a streaking DHB or Murphy. Let’s set the tone right away and come out guns blazing.

    Come on Hue. Make it happen.

  75. Hot Shot Says:

    Shanahan tried to fire Shell and other assistants without Davis’ consent. He hired them back and eventually fired Shanahan. Even Rat face knew they sucked at coaching.

  76. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Many of you have had enough of the constant update (usually on the back end) of 30-86.

    ******************************

    I wonder how many people read this and immediately thought of KoolKell.

  77. priesttj Says:

    Then why did they start winning after Shanahan was fired? Some of you are just wouldn’t know your butt from a whole in the ground. Art Shell took them to the championship game…

  78. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nothing will be more humilating, than wearing fairy color uniforms, losing to the Raiders for the first time in years, and than having your name be Seyi.

    Sounds like a stripper’s name.

  79. Hot Shot Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Then why did they start winning after Shanahan was fired? Some of you are just wouldn’t know your butt from a whole in the ground. Art Shell took them to the championship game…
    ========================================================
    Yeah and art shell never won a superbowl either.If he was so great why did he get fired twice.

  80. aig-raiders Says:

    TJ,

    We all found out that the Raiders won despite Art Shell. The talent on those teams were incredible. Howie Long, Todd Christensen, Marcus and Bo Jackson. Not like these wimps we have today. Those receivers can actually catch.

  81. priesttj Says:

    He certainly didn’t suck you moron…..a lot of very good coaches never won a SB. How old are you 5?

  82. aig-raiders Says:

    Oh and those teams had a pretty good Oline as well as Mike Smith (one of our best FB ever). We had so much talent on the Oline that we traded one of them to the Skins for Jay Schroeder. Another awful Al Davis trade.

  83. lefty12 Says:

    He got screwed round 2.He was told he had 2 years and spent the 1st trying to rebuild the Oline.Then he wasn’t given a shot at year 2.

  84. Hot Shot Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    TJ,

    We all found out that the Raiders won despite Art Shell. The talent on those teams were incredible. Howie Long, Todd Christensen, Marcus and Bo Jackson. Not like these wimps we have today. Those receivers can actually catch.
    =========================================================
    I agree these players now days break a nail and they want to sit out.Old time players would rip these guys heads off cause they played for the love of the game not for the cash.

  85. priesttj Says:

    All those players won SB’s the players under Art Shell had gotten old. Art never had the pleasure of caching a HOF calibre QB he had Marc Wilson and Jay Schroeder.

    Why am I talking to kids who have no clue.

  86. Hot Shot Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    He certainly didn’t suck you moron…..a lot of very good coaches never won a SB. How old are you 5?
    =========================================================
    Moron, you guys sure run your mouths and call people names cause we have an opinon.Ill tell you what you see me ever in person son and call me a moron and see if you have teeth left.

  87. Chris in NY Says:

    Sorry PriestJ, but the Art Shell Part II year was the worst I’ve ever seen this team. I think the 0-16 Lions were probably better. Somehow we got lucky enough to steal 2, but that entire year was a disaster and Shell seemed completely lost for answers.

  88. Chris in NY Says:

    Still one of the greatest offensive lineman to ever lace them up though.

  89. priesttj Says:

    That’s exactly what I’m talking about, Chris HELLO he was talking about when Art was on Shanahan’s staff. Art had been away from coaching almost 10 years the second time. lol

    Man forget it it’s pointless!!

  90. lefty12 Says:

    Chris,Shell almost came out and admitted he sacrificed that year trying to rebuild the Oline because he was promised 2 years.

  91. aig-raiders Says:

    TJ,

    You’re protecting Art because he was a black coach. You know it and we all know it.

    Art inherited a pretty good team and he cashed in 1 year only. The rest were avg at best. Dont believe me. Here you go.

    1989 7-5
    1990 12-4
    1991 9-7
    1992 7-9
    1993 10-6
    1994 9-7

    Except for 1990 with Bo Jackson, it was avg at best with those talents. He inherited a winning franchise with fantastic players. We all saw how exposed he was in his second stinct so let’s not bs anyone Priest. You talk a lot of smack but you dont even know the numbers. Art inherited a very good roster that he barely won with.

  92. priesttj Says:

    You just don’t know squat about this team yet you’re all so damn arrogant and opinionated.

    get a clue first…

  93. aig-raiders Says:

    yeah like how you predicted Black Moses will be our starter this year. You’re clueless dude. Give it up.

  94. Hot Shot Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    yeah like how you predicted Black Moses will be our starter this year. You’re clueless dude. Give it up.
    =========================================================
    good facts bro on Shell.Priesttj is the one who don,t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

  95. Raider O Says:

    Art did well his 1st try (5/6 years above .500), but his 2nd try was a disaster.

  96. sirblitzalot Says:

    Why didn’t the coaching staff run any fly routes against one of the worse pass defenses in the league? I know they were playing bump and run all day but after 5 yards there is no more “bumping”. You can expect San Diego to do the same thing tomorrow. play bump and run to neutralize DHB and LM. In addition, they are going to “BRING IT” (PR) to BG.

  97. priesttj Says:

    AIG in 5 years he had one losing record I’d love to have that right now. You guy’s are so dumb it’s ridiculous. We were in the playoffs 3 out of 5 years.

    He won coach of the year he never should’ve been fired had Mr Davis not been so caught up in winning SB’s we didn’t have the talent and what really got Shell fired was the Marcus Allen fiasco.

    I gotta go this just aint worth it………………..;period

  98. sirblitzalot Says:

    I will be there, in the BH, yelling my lungs out but I have chalked this up as an L.
    I don’t see how we are going to be able to stop, Gates, Jackson and any running back. If you think they will repeat of only two penalties by the offense, you got another thing coming. They will be penalized for at least on football field length. Watch.

  99. sirblitzalot Says:

    I don’t know if anybody noticed but M Bush fumbled the ball on the play prior to the TD, then he fumbled it on the TD. That was with no one even touching his injured thumb! Can you imagine what is going to happen when he gets hit!

    Be advised that it takes 6 weeks for a bone to heal, but the soft tissue surrounding the injury will take a much longer time, and weakness in the grip is a major problem. That is why he couldn’t avoid fumbling the ball.

  100. Raider O Says:

    Raiders 27
    DisChargers 24

    We should have won the last 2 games. We should be 3-1, but thx to Cable, Marshall, Waufle, Sanjay Lal, OL coach, we are 1-3!
    This team is better than KC, Denver, and should be able to compete with the Dischargers, but we lack coaching.

  101. aig-raiders Says:

    TJ,

    please stfu. I dare you to back up any facts with your claims. You tellin me a team with Howie Long, Greg Townsend, Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson and Mike Smith are not talented? These are just some of the names I mentioned.

    Let’s try the Oline ok. Don Mosebar, Steve Wiz, Max Montoya

    Dline Howie Long, Scott Davis, Greg Townsend and Bob Golic

    D Backs – McDaniel, Eddie Anderson and Lionel Washington

    spec team Jeff Jaeger

    RB Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson and Steve Smith

    WR Gault, Fernandez and Brown

    TE Ethan Horton

    So let me see here. Probowlers Allen, Jackson, Smith, Brown, McDaniel, Wiz, Long and Townsend.

    Holy crap, you’re telling me we didnt have talent for Shell to play with. Compare that roster to today’s roster. Nite and Day. STFU.

  102. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12

    I agree had he been given 3-5 years to get something done he might have turned it around. But at that time Mr Davis’ patience was just at it’s worst and the issue with Jerry Porter wore on him. Art was extremely stubborn and may have been is have been his undoing.

    I can discuss this stuff with someone a little less frat boyish.

  103. Raider O Says:

    -The AZ game: we passed more than we need to, and we exposed.
    -The Texans: they ran the same play over 15 times, but we couldn’t stop them.

    We need a new coaching staff. I would keep Hue as our QB coach/ OC, but he needs to improve his play calling.

  104. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12

    I think if we can block these boys up front we might have a chance to compete with them. If Grads takes to heart Hujacks admonition I think we have a chance to make some plays on SD. However if this defense does what it did last week we don’t hav e a shot.

  105. priesttj Says:

    Raider O

    I was shocked by that defense I couldn’t believe my eyes it was very disappointing. We need to grow up fast.

  106. Raider O Says:

    Sanjay Lal & Fassel!!
    They should be fired! they should have been fired last season!

  107. lefty12 Says:

    Shell’s main goal was to rebuild the line.As an ex lineman he knew that was necessary.I honestly believe if he’d have been given the time we’d be much better off today,and we’d be running the power blocking system everyone NOW says they’d like to see.I know we wouldn’t have been any worse than we’ve been the last few years.Sometimes you have to tear something completely down before you can rebuild it and ,IMO, that is what he wanted to do.

  108. Hot Shot Says:

    Well Tommy Kelly needs to step it up.Seems like we have been saying that for a while now.That D line has to plug the middle up and guys need to hit those gaps and if they do we might have a chance to win.

  109. Hot Shot Says:

    Last game almost all runs is where Tommy Kelly was suppost to be.He was not doing anything out there.Seymour cant stop the runs through the middle by himself.

  110. lefty12 Says:

    I’m hoping the flack they have taken and the way everyone has questioned their manhood will have an effect and they will play a good game.You’d think they’d get tired of getting kicked in the mouth.

  111. Dark Forces Says:

    It’s not the coaching. The players are awful. Look at teh horrible draft and free agent aquisitions the Raiders have made. Every year we get a defensive linemen off waivers who turns into our best lineman. Our offensive line is the worst pass blocking line in the league bar none. DHB? Mike Mitchell at the very top of the second round? Michael Huff instead of Haloti Ngata? Al Davis is the worst talent evaluator in the league. A chimp could do better by throwing it’s poop at names on the draft board.

  112. lefty12 Says:

    Actually,the guy who stunk it up against the run last week was Houston.They went after him and made him look like the rookie he is.

  113. beach Says:

    I know this is off topic, but I think 100 years from now in the dictionary you will see a picture of Mariano Rivera next to the term “relief pitcher.” The guy is the best “clutch” pitcher of all-time.

  114. Chris in NY Says:

    Screen passes have been a pretty big part of our game this year and while Bush can be good in that respect — few defenders want to tackle him when he has a head of steam — I’d like to see us work in some kind of screen to either Nick Miller or Jacoby Ford. Something where one of those guys is in the slot, fakes a quick, 1-yard out with the rest of the WRs streaking downfield, then come back into the middle to catch a screen behind a few linemen. Let’s get the ball to one of those dudes in open space 1-on-1 against a defender. If executed well, that’s almost a guaranteed 15-20 yards and potentially much more.

    Let’s get those two guys going tomorrow.

  115. Chris in NY Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    Actually,the guy who stunk it up against the run last week was Houston.They went after him and made him look like the rookie he is.

    ——————

    Branch was a disaster as well. The really big run plays usually involved Branch charging up to the line, totally out of position with no clue where the ball carrier even was until he had already blown by.

    Looking forward to much better play from him tomorrow.

    And I’m not even sure we fielded any LBs last week. Seemed like every tackle was made by a d-lineman or db.

  116. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Groves being out would be a good thing. He’s been terrible. Too bad Howards out too though.

    Hate how this team makes others look good.

  117. Hot Shot Says:

    # Chris in NY Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Screen passes have been a pretty big part of our game this year and while Bush can be good in that respect — few defenders want to tackle him when he has a head of steam — I’d like to see us work in some kind of screen to either Nick Miller or Jacoby Ford. Something where one of those guys is in the slot, fakes a quick, 1-yard out with the rest of the WRs streaking downfield, then come back into the middle to catch a screen behind a few linemen. Let’s get the ball to one of those dudes in open space 1-on-1 against a defender. If executed well, that’s almost a guaranteed 15-20 yards and potentially much more.

    Let’s get those two guys going tomorrow.
    =======================================================
    I agree with that.I think Jacoby needs to get the ball.The guy is fast and he can break it for a long run if he gets going.Miller he has good hands.He needs to be involved more too.We need to use miller like N.E uses Wes Welker.

  118. Dark Forces Says:

    The Raiders can’t seem to use McFadden like the Eagles used to use Westbrook.Get him out in space and let him use his speed. One of the few things DHB and Murphy can do is block. Part of the problem is that the O-line is too big and slow to move and execute in space. With Bush they are better off bashing up the middle and then hit Miller or trying their usual desperation lobs towards the sideline to DHB and Murphy who love to bounce the ball off their hands into the air.

  119. Nnamdi21 Says:

    114. Bubble screen on the goal line like Arizona did to us. They used an illegal pick but weren’t flagged. We’d get flagged.

  120. Nnamdi21 Says:

    118. agreed. Our O line can’t get second level. Awful…

  121. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 he looked clueless Houston got schooled last week. Let’s hope he gives a much better effort this week.I think that’s the first time he saw how effective that style offense can be if he’s not ready.

  122. Chris in NY Says:

    Case in point about the LBs:

    We only got 9 tackles + 3 assists from our LBs all game despite the fact that they ran the ball 36 times and 11 of Houston’s 16 completions were to RBs and TEs: guys that LBs typically cover. That group seemed awfully gutless last week.

    And so many rag on Huff in here but I contend he’s much improved these last two seasons and is far from being a primary culprit in this defense. Huff led the team with 7 tackles + an assist. Huff almost had as many tackles as our entire linebacking corps.

  123. priesttj Says:

    Houston’s safeties made tons of tackles as well. Pollard must have had 10. If the front7 is taking on blocks the safties have to make tackles that’s why they’re there. I never heard George Atkinson and Jack Tatum cmplain about how many tackles they were making and they made a ton.

  124. priesttj Says:

    Great sfaety play is paramount to great defense because in a lt of cases the MLB is taking on a OG or a lead blocker the safety has to be physical.

  125. lefty12 Says:

    The whole Def. stunk up the place.While it is easy to single out certain players,the fact is you could single out almost any one of them last game and you wouldn’t be wrong.The thing is they have to quit trying to make every play themselves and just do their own job.To me guys being constantly out of position means they are trying to do to much.They want to make plays so bad,they get totally out of position.Just stay home and do your job!

  126. priesttj Says:

    I’ve been saying that for years left these guy’s get over anxious because there trying not to let a big play happen and they overreact and it happens. Great defense is about gap control discipline and tackling. It’s not about a huge fat guy in the middle certainly if that fat guy can play it helps. It’s about scheme integrity and making you do YOUR job. And you’ll have a great defense. Dallas has a great defense but they don’t have a 400 lbs guy clogging the middle they do it with discipline.

  127. lefty12 Says:

    Although it is difficult to do with limited rosters,I’d like to see guys replaced if they continue to make those mental mistakes-even if its just for a few series.Maybe the thought of losing playing time will have an affect,preaching to them doesn’t seem to have any.

  128. lefty12 Says:

    What makes me laugh is when guys do stay home and do what they are supposed to do,many on here complain because they aren’t ‘making plays’-ie. a DE takes on a blocker and turns the play inside where someone else is supposed to fill the gap and people on here will biotch because the DE didn’t make the tackle.What they don’t seem to realize is he isn’t necessarily supposed to make the tackle-the LB or safety is.

  129. priesttj Says:

    That’s right when you try t do too much is when the back will bounce it arond the DE and still gain 10 yards then still say he sucks. lol

    But I guess as I get older I get even more impatient with some of these guy’s in here. It just grates on me when they just complain just to be complain because it makes them sound cool. It annoys the hell outta me. They make statements that make no sense at all and do it so arrogantly as if THEY know better.

    Ezpecially these criticisms about how bad we draft, hindsight is always 20/20 it’s easy to say we should’ve done this or that after the fact. I just need to ignore their post more.

  130. priesttj Says:

    Well Lefty I’ll be there rooting the boy’s on win or lose. I would love to win this game I’m so tired of the ball bouncing SD’s way. Just once I would like to walk out of that stadium with a win over them. It would make the entire season much better for me no matter what happens afterwards.

  131. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Lefty,

    I agreed with your post about Art Shell. He was trying to revamp the team and build it from the ground up and instill discipline.

    However, what really did him in the 2nd go round was hiring the Bed-N-Breakfast guy. That offense was horrendous and a lot of it was relying on that offense. Shell relied too much on trust that 2nd go round…..

    Nevertheless, anyone slamming Shell’s contributions to the Raiders as a player and coach doesn’t know or appreciate Raider history.

    Shell is all class!

  132. lefty12 Says:

    I know,but it is really difficult to do sometimes.The mob mentality is what really gets to me.One person will say something about someone and they’ll all start a ‘this guy sucks’ tirade without any justification.The draft crap is the same thing.Every team every year has guys they miss on but you’d think we’re the only one.And if a guy isn’t all-pro in his rookie year they label him a bust.

  133. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Lefty,

    I’ve benen saying for a while that the D-Line is not measured by tackles when it comes to taking on the run. The unit is measured on Yards Per Carry. The D-Line’s job is to protect the linebackers so that they can FLY around the field and get to the ball and make plays.

    Priettj, while shedding blocks is part of the deal in good linebacking play, you don’t want to see your MLB wrestling with Guards and Centers. Those Gs and Cs should be wrestling with the DTs.

    McClain is only as good as the guys in front of him.

    Safeties in the run defense is like insurance. You buy it but you really don’t want to use it.

  134. lefty12 Says:

    Very true S&B.If you look at it would we really be any worse off now if we would have given him a couple of years to finish the job?The thing is he was being too loyal which is something the old man is supposed to appreciate.

  135. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priesttj,

    At the end of the day winning will stop the critiques and everything else. You are going to get second guessing with the way things are going.

    I went to my 1st home Raider game last week. Great experience and saw Freddie B and met some real fans. Awesome experience. I couldn’t believe there were only 30K there until I got in the stadium.

    Anyway, you would rather have guys getting emotional and angry about this performance, then the apathy of 30K empty seats.

  136. priesttj Says:

    Left they’ve already labeled McClain a bust. lol

    Houston is next as soon as they can. It’s ridiculous, man if they only knew. But it’s the times we’re living in, no respect for anyone including themselves. Everybody sucks if we lose.

    And the one that really gets me is if they don’t like a player automaticall he’s on scholarship. lol which is the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. The Kitten cmes up with this lame label for players he doesn’t want and all of a sudden they think I’ll sound smart if I say this……… they actually sound just the opposite.

    But hey it is what it is, let’s enjoy the game tomorrow.

  137. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    In my opinion, unless there is some other issues, a coach in the NFL really should be given 3 years before a decision is made on the direction of the team

    Especially in a rebuild.

  138. lefty12 Says:

    I think we will win.I have to believe all the crap that was put out there this week plus the embarrassing play of last week will have a positive effect this week.Plus the law of average is in our favor.

  139. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priesttj,

    Who’s calling McClain a bust? I simply said that he is only going to be as good as the line in front of him. And that’s true. Whether he’s a rookie or a 12 year veteran.

    I have no problem with McClain’s overall play this year. Especially for a rookie.

  140. lefty12 Says:

    S&B-agreed-at least 3 years.I know I’m in the minority,but I believe Cable should get another year too,but the rest of the season will decide that.

  141. lefty12 Says:

    He wasn’t talking about you.

  142. priesttj Says:

    Safety play is like what in the run defense? huh? I think I don’t agree and never will. Safety play is critical to run defense. Every player on the field is critical to run defense if you want to be a great run defense. Who told you run defense is up to the front7???

    If your entire defense is not committed to stopping the run you wont stop the run……….period

    Your secondary contains the run instead of a 50 yard run they keep it to 10 or less. You must get everyone on defense involved and committed to stopping the run. The more people you get involved the better you’ll be at it. I’ve watched the Steelers play the run for 40 years and that is exactly how they do it. With their entire defense. Palomalu is a vicious run defender that goes all the way back to Mike Wagner and Tony Dungy and all the great STeeler safties. It’s paramount to great run defense.

  143. lefty12 Says:

    I don’t know if you guys watch the post game shows on CSNCA but last week Romo laid into our safeties and put almost all of the blame for those TD runs on them.

  144. lefty12 Says:

    When I went back and watched the game again,I saw what he meant.They are constantly out of position,over run plays,and miss tackles.

  145. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    There was no excuse for the blown tackles by Michael Huff. None.

    But we are not crticizing safety play in the box…for example, Tyvon Branch’s missed tackle on Chris Johnson at the LOS.

    Huff was player of last resort 10 to 15 yards down the field with a running back that has come clean through the front 7. I agree that the safety has to make the play. However, the defense was not designed on that play for the safety to make the tackle 10 to 15 yards down the field with a RB on a full head of steam.

  146. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12

    I never talk about Cable but IMO Mr Davis needs to keep this staff together at least another 2 years.Cable is not a great coach but he understands what he’s doing contrary to popular opinion. Hue Jackson is at a time in his career where it seems everything is starting to come together for him. Tom is not some ego driven spokes person who’s clever with the media he just wnats to coach this team. These players need to start making him look good.

    He’s giving this everything he has and to be honest I think Cable is doing a good job he just needs rsults. JaMarcus really screweed him and now he’s dealing with a young QB just learning his way. He deserves an opportunity to get that star QB that others have and them you can see what kind of coach he really is. I’m hoping Grads has enough to get us to that next player if he can’t get it done himself. Right now this team needs Tom Cable. He’s honest and very hard working similar to Bill Cower who had Dick Labeau to lean on with that great defense. Bill was not a great coach and isn’t a great coach he had a great staff……….period

  147. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Or contain on runs to the sideline

  148. lefty12 Says:

    I think Branch is more at fault than Huff.It is pretty difficult to be the last line of defense against the pass AND fill the gaps against the run at the LOS.But at the same time if the ball carrier does get past the front 7,the safety is expected to make the saving tackle.Both our S leave much to be desired on this front.

  149. priesttj Says:

    Lefty it’s easy to see that they aren’t attacking the runner their giving him a 2 way go. If you that it’s very difficult to make an open field tackle. You have to stay square MIke Huff turns his shoulder and the HB knows he cannot recover and it’s off to the races. Romo is right those guys have to force the HB one direction and the acelerate to cut him off. Now if he’s truely a great back there’s not much you can do. But in most cases they give a 2 way go and they lose contain thus 70 yard runs. It’s all technigue I’ve been watching safety play for years the great ones attack the ball carrier. Huff sits back, and you cannot do that.

  150. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,those are my exact same feelings concerning Cable.The key is he wants to just be the coach-nothing more-and he seems to be working with Davis better than most realize.He is turning things around although not as fast as most want.Cowher is a perfect example.It took him many years to finally win the SB,and he wasn’t that good his 1st few years as the HC,but they stuck with him and it eventually paid off.

  151. priesttj Says:

    The FS has to be the smartest player in your secondary. He has to diagnose quickly run or pass if he cannot get him outta there. When you KNOW it’s a run you have to be very decisive in your approach you cannot sit back and see what the ball carrier looks like if you read wrong, read wrong aggressively. You have to be instinctive and aggressive it’s not nearly as hard as it seems if you study film. Most teams have no more than 5 running plays it’s a matter of you anticipating and attacking.

  152. lefty12 Says:

    S&B,agreed the defense isn’t designed for that to happen,but if it does,it is the safeties responsibility to make the stop.I believe great safeties are extremely hard to find.That is why when they come around they are so well known.

  153. priesttj Says:

    I see the same things here Lefty12 Cable isn’t a self promoter Like another Bay Area coach. He’s in it for the right reasons. And he doesn’t mind Hujack getting pub there are no power struggles. He just wants to do whatever it takes to get this team winning again. And your smart not to underestimate that, we have a good OC IMO and a good DC now these players need to be made to know that’s how it’s going to be either get the job done or get out. And you’ll se them start to play to that and eventually we will win again. Hopefully sooner than later.

  154. StayinBlack Says:

    The FS has to be the smartest player in your secondary. He has to diagnose quickly run or pass if he cannot get him outta there. When you KNOW it’s a run you have to be very decisive in your approach you cannot sit back and see what the ball carrier looks like if you read wrong, read wrong aggressively. You have to be instinctive and aggressive it’s not nearly as hard as it seems if you study film. Most teams have no more than 5 running plays it’s a matter of you anticipating and attacking.
    —————————————————————————————————————–
    Great post. Without question Aso is our smartest player in the secondary out of dire need do you think it’s a mistake not to play him some sets at FS? I haven’t seen every single play on D and where everyone is lined up but do you think his talents would serve us better from that position?

  155. lefty12 Says:

    Wasn’t it last year when everyone was ranting about how we need a coach like Singletary,about how he was going to do such a great job across the bay.Not anymore.The guy is half loony.And if a Raider coach pulled half the sh!t he does he’d be roasted like a pig at a Texas BBQ. Does anyone really believe they are better off than we are today -that they are going in the right direction?

  156. Guy Says:

    Priest what do you think of Branch? What would the Colts give up for him? They lost Sanders and Bullit for the season I think.

  157. lefty12 Says:

    Stayin-while Nnamdi no doubt would be a good FS,I don’t think you should move the best corner in the game during his prime.

  158. priesttj Says:

    No I don’t think we can afford to sacrifice his skills at corner, I think we have a kid who can be effective at FS in Tyvon Branch and Mike Mitchell is what I call a rockhead(hitter) he should be in the box. Huff skillset lends itself well to FS at times but in reality he’s a CB/S he just is. There are times when Huff plays very well at FS then there’s those games like Sunday. Most in here don’t like Eugene but I would much rather play him at FS than mess with Nnamdi. Incidently Eugene is a much better player than anyone gives him credit for he’s more physical in the run game.

  159. lefty12 Says:

    I like what I’ve seen from S.Brown so far.He seems to be a ball hawk-always around the ball.A little raw,but he could be a player in the near future.

  160. StayinBlack Says:

    Left- I feel ya bro. He is as good as it gets but at 30-86 you would think he is lobbying to get the opportunity to make more plays. Mayb not a permanent move but against those teams that don’t have the elite WR he could line up at FS.

  161. lefty12 Says:

    Unless he wants too much money,it wouldn’t surprise me if this isn’t Johnson’s last year and Huff takes over his role.I don’t think Huff has the skills to be a pure cover corner,but he would be very good at nickel and sometime S.

  162. lefty12 Says:

    Stayin-the way Routt is playing,I wouldn’t be surprised if Nnamdi doesn’t start getting more action.Right now they are playing as good as any corner combo in my opinion.You haven’t seen a lot of completions going Routt’s way.

  163. lefty12 Says:

    Well,looks like everyone is all talked out.Enjoy the game today.I’m hoping it’s a good one-division rival-anything can and probably will happen.

  164. priesttj Says:

    I think we said that in preseason Left, Routt was getting a raw deal in here. Everyone was saying the Raiders were stupid and we needed CJ. I think Routt is a much better player than CJ at pure corner I like CJ at slot even Huff can play slot IMO.

    The S Brown I can’t say one way or the other I just haven’t seen enough of him but I’ll say this he plays fast(decisive). So I’m willing to give anyone who can contribute a chance. But what is he? SS FS what?? He seems fit for SS more than FS to me.

  165. priesttj Says:

    OK Lefty12 adios guy’s……….peace!

  166. StayinBlack Says:

    I don’t see it ever happening but I think it would interesting about Nam but it is amazing watching him shadow Wideouts.. But I guess it boils down to when is John Marshall going to pull the trigger and shakeup the S rotation and some more opportunities to Brown and MM. Branch at FS might not be a bad idea. It’s imperative something happens back there because we keep giving up big plays

  167. raiders22 Says:

    damn fellas were givin it to old priesttj tonight lol.
    i dont follow what he says but when there’s that many people saying something about 1 person, there’s gotta be some truth to it. sorry bro

    tomorrows prediction:
    San Diego 41, Oakland 24
    we suck :[

  168. sirblitzalot Says:

    I believe there is about a .092 chance that the Raiders are going to beat the S.D. -never-won-or will-win-a-Superbowl Chargers later today.
    This, in spite of the fact that M Bush is going to fumble the 3 times.
    In spite of the fact that the o-line is going to allow BG get sacked 5X with 2 T/Os
    In spite of the fact that N. Miller muffs a punt or loses the ball as he heads upfield.
    In spite of the fact the the “front seven” refuse to engage in violence.
    In spite of the fact that TC not only plays players out position but plays them in a position they have never played in their careers, (from high school through college)
    In spite of the fact that #21 is the only competent db we have.
    In of the the fact that our only competent d lineman has a hamstring pull
    In spite of the fact that it is impossible to light a fire under these guys for home games.
    Why did I buy these tickets!!!!???????????????????????????????????????

    For the Raiders are accounted as sheep for the slaughter……
    and they have no rod or staff (or canicas) to comfort them.

  169. sirblitzalot Says:

    I forgot,
    In spite of the fact that we are going to see more yellow flags than at a steeler playoff game.

    Okay, now let see if can get some sleep (I doubt it), so I can go to the game ready to cheer like a banchi, “DEEEEFEEENCE!!!!!!” and “BRUUUUUUUCE!!!!!!” and in the second half on, “FIRE TOM CABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  170. Violent Hands Says:

    Jerry you missed out one important stat

    Raiders lead series 55-44 with two ties

  171. Violent Hands Says:

    they need another 11 wins before it stirs Al

  172. neilb Says:

    That really hurts Jerry.Everyone knows the first stat but those within the AFC west…….wow,I never really thought ’bout it.

  173. neilb Says:

    http://behindenemylines.yahoo.com/

    I want to buy that bloke with the bald head and beard a beer.Anyone from here on this?

  174. HairyBush Says:

    Anyone want to take a look at WR Devin Thomas? (2nd round pick cut by Skins)

  175. Que Says:

    New Day Nation and I feel something goods possible today. The defense can play better and will. Lets get a win and start our winning in the afc west.

  176. Que Says:

    I think the raiders should look at everyone

  177. Raider Ray Says:

    At least something good is going to come out of today’s results. Either the Raiders win, or Cable is going to be fired. At least the week won’t be boring.

  178. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # HairyBush Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 5:00 am

    Anyone want to take a look at WR Devin Thomas? (2nd round pick cut by Skins)

    Apparently only you and me…

  179. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    #

    # Raider75 Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    GET WR DEVIN THOMAS NOW!!!!!!
    …..

    lol. why?
    _____________________________________________________

    WHY?????he is 23 years old, he is top 2nd round pick from 2008 and he is better than any of our guys beside Murphy… we can get him for peanuts and Schilens, that sissy is injureded 10 weeks out of 16 anyway…

    Thats why…

  180. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # HairyBush Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 5:00 am

    Anyone want to take a look at WR Devin Thomas? (2nd round pick cut by Skins)
    ________________________________________________________

    Apparently only you and me…

  181. HairyBush Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 5:30 am
    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    #

    # Raider75 Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 9th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    GET WR DEVIN THOMAS NOW!!!!!!
    …..

    lol. why?
    _____________________________________________________

    WHY?????he is 23 years old, he is top 2nd round pick from 2008 and he is better than any of our guys beside Murphy… we can get him for peanuts and Schilens, that sissy is injureded 10 weeks out of 16
    ———————
    well said!

  182. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Game day!!

    No matter how crappy we feel during the week, it’s always fun to wake up with some hope.

    Going 7-9 and beating the Chargers this year would be a huge step in the right direction.

    Let’s go Bruce!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  183. HairyBush Says:

    Raiders win today 27-24

  184. Raider Ray Says:

    Raiders will win today if Campbell gets in the game.

  185. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Speaking of WR’s, that Jeffrey dude from South Carolina was amazing yesterday.

    Never seen him play before, but I don’t know if I have been that impressed by a collegiate WR in a long time.

    He made the Alabama defense look silly.

  186. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 6:11 am
    Raiders will win today if Campbell gets in the game.

    ***********************************

    Too funny.

    I think the coaching staff disagrees with you.

  187. ghosttothepost Says:

    Who’s smoking crack before dawn? Raiders win of Campbell gets in?
    Raiders are blown out if Campbell gets in because Grads got blind-sided and is on his way to the hospital.

  188. ghosttothepost Says:

    This game today decides almost everything. For The Cable Guy it decides his future. For the Raiders it decides if they are going to be the doormat in the AFC West — again. For me, it decides whether or not I have 11 weeks of the NFL season left and nothing to root for.

  189. ghosttothepost Says:

    So bring it on.

  190. ghosttothepost Says:

    anybody out there?

  191. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It is all on the line Ghost, no doubt about it.

    Win today and we have more than pride to play for (at least for a few weeks).

  192. raidermarty Says:

    We’ve just gotta find a way to beat the dolts today. I know all the stats say san diego is the better team but we’ve gotta find a way to play inspired ball and get this season going in the right direction.DAMN RIGHT THIS IS A MUST WIN! This win would give us some badly needed confidence!!! Ah the hope and promise of gameday morning springs eternal!!!!!
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  193. Raider Ray Says:

    The Raiders best chance to win today is if Grads gets knocked out of the game, or benched. The Chargers will expose to us who Grads really is.

  194. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ray is another person on the list of Raider “Fans” hoping for bad things to happen for the slight chance that he is right for blog purposes.

  195. raidermarty Says:

    Well i think we already know who Grads really is- he is a physically limited, prone to injury, middle of the road NFL quarterback who’s never gonna be a big stat guy. But he has heart,determination, competitiveness, and fiery energy. Of the 3 qb’s on the roster, I believe he’s the best thing for us right now. We go into a shell on offense sometimes and I think he keeps us competing. I would however like to see Campbell get another shot at some point down the road. Who knows???

  196. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    ghosttothepost Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 6:23 am
    This game today decides almost everything. For The Cable Guy it decides his future. For the Raiders it decides if they are going to be the doormat in the AFC West — again. For me, it decides whether or not I have 11 weeks of the NFL season left and nothing to root for
    ====================================================
    For us, it means do we have 11 weeks of football or we crack Al Davis for trading a top 5 pick in the draft.

  197. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    2 thoughts and I can’t decide.

    27-24 Raiders.
    37-14 Dolts.

    I’ll go against reality, 27-24 Raider’s.

  198. Raider Ray Says:

    C’mon Just Fire Baby, Grads has been very lucky so far. He throw at least 3 balls a game that should be intercepted. The Chargers are too good to be dropping his lame duck passes. At least Campbell gets rid of the ball.

  199. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ohh shoot, when is the game tonight?

  200. La Milicia Negra Says:

    piiiiyyyywwww!

    2215, I will be home at that time… TG

  201. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    What is luck? Being well studied and prepared so as to take advantage of situations when they present themselves. If that makes Bruce lucky, I’ll take it. Campbell did not get rid of the ball. Could not even get through his second read. Campbell sucks.

  202. Raider Ray Says:

    Let’s be frank here. Gradkowski is a backup QB at best. And, I hate to be the one to bring up the racial component, but I feel many of you Raider fans only like Grads because he is white. When Grads holds on to the ball too long it is because he is “tries to hard” or “never gives up on a play”, when Campbell does it it is because he “can’t read defenses”, is too “slow”, or just too “stupid”.

  203. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jason Campbell still leads the team in fumbles, lol.

    As far as this “he should throw 3 picks a game” nonsense. Last week was his first start in a Raider uniform in which he threw more than one pick, and the second pick clearly wasn’t on him.

    Bruce has started and finished 5 games, and played a half in three games.

    He has 3 games with zero picks, 4 games with one and one game with two.

    I say he was unlucky in the ONE GAME HE HAD TWO INTS.

  204. Just Fire Baby Says:

    And, I hate to be the one to bring up the racial component, but I feel many of you Raider fans only like Grads because he is white.

    ********************************

    Take it up with Hue Jackson, because he is the only one with the ability to change QB’s, and he couldn’t wait to bench Campbell for Bruce, even saying he was considering doing it in the Tennessee game.

  205. Raider Ray Says:

    Just Fire Baby, I didn’t say the coaches are racist, because obviously they are not. I’m just saying that many Raider fans can’t accept a black QB.

  206. Raider Ray Says:

    On a side note, has anyone ever seen this:

    http://www.pbase.com/sacd/image/41833797

    Since when has Vince Evans ever been considered a Raider legend?

  207. raidermarty Says:

    Grads gets alot of passes tipped because of his height and arm delivery so I think int’s are just a by-product of that. Also it doesn’t help that the wr’s drop the damn ball too. Too many tips/deflections can kill us…..

  208. souldogdave Says:

    McNeil can’t play until next week.Campbell was benched cauz he looked bad out there.Today could be heaven, probably will be hell. Here we go Raiders.

  209. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I can accept any Raider QB regardless of color. I was excited to get Campbell but I did not realize his shortcomings that became apparent when he played. Playing the race card is bullsh*t. Raider’s come in all ethnic backgrounds. Your outlook is unacceptable.

  210. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    raidermarty Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 7:25 am
    Grads gets alot of passes tipped because of his height and arm delivery so I think int’s are just a by-product of that. Also it doesn’t help that the wr’s drop the damn ball too. Too many tips/deflections can kill us…..
    =========================================
    Having Matador Mario at LT does not help!

  211. Plunketthead Says:

    MMM MMM MMM
    Hannah is looking fine today

  212. Plunketthead Says:

    Raider Ray Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 7:22 am
    Just Fire Baby, I didn’t say the coaches are racist, because obviously they are not. I’m just saying that many Raider fans can’t accept a black QB.

    I will “accept” a black QB when we get one that does his job.
    We keep picking the wrong black QB

  213. Que Says:

    Im a raiderfan 1st and go raiders and im a campbell fan 2nd. I do believe myself everyone scapegoated him. Time will tell on grads and he s a decent qb also. I like him to. But I myself have ask people on here to be just as critical of grads after watching and i saw last weeks game also how we could hav won it even though the defense played horrible. Lets go raiders and guys watch the game closely

  214. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Given the perfect situation for a QB, I believe that Campbell could be more successful than Bruce. A great O-line, stable coaching, great defense, veteran WR’s.

    But without that, Campbell just accepts losing. Did it in Washington, and he was starting to do it here, before Hue pulled the plug and tried to infuse life in his team and offense.

    This is far from a perfect situation, and I think Campbell won’t even be here next year.

  215. Plunketthead Says:

    Ex

    No reply to my “I will get her to send you a brett pic”?

    I thought it was a pretty good reply for early morning

  216. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I’m not interested in the Brett pic’s, but if you have any of her pics au natural, I’ll give you my address. lol

  217. Plunketthead Says:

    I know you did not want bretts pics but you stepped in it and I had to rub it in

  218. GG Says:

    I knew it was the end of the world and the season after the Titans loss. 0-1 only but the writing was on the wall.

    At 1-3, this really is the mathematical key game right now. At 2-3 (mathematically) hope will spring forth in the team and us. At 1-4 it’ll be mathematically too hard for this poorly coached, poorly GM’d, poorly playing team to then try to mathematically go 8-3 or above.

  219. raidermarty Says:

    Oh no question this is a pivotal game on so many levels- “Which way is this team headed?” will be answered today
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  220. JLofty Says:

    Unlike this place eh Plunketthead?
    Just kidding. I hope the Raiders get their pride back and show up to play today.

  221. aig-raiders Says:

    Raider Ray,

    How about we saw the diff between JC and Bruce in 2 games and it was good enough for us. Rams and Niners. They both played against the same 1st unit D and supported by the same players. How about judge the issue for what it is rather than trying to spin the race card. As a minority in this country, it’s sickening to see race cards being played and abused. There are racists situation but on the field performance is not one of them.

    It’s ok to be a JC fan but it’s stupid to bash Bruce. The guy has done nothing but delivered for us time and again. I have not seen a Raider QB this clutch since I have followed them from 1983. Wait until Jon Gruden goes to the Niners next year and gives us a 3rd round tender for Bruce. They’ll rule the Bay for the next 10 years. And we’ll go back to being an embarrassment in the nfl.

  222. Plunketthead Says:

    Ray, or should I say moronraider?

    I have noticed you chatting here the past two weeks and I am convinced you are a Raider hater, probaly a mule fan.
    So save your breath. I could care less what you think

    Dont bother responding

  223. aig-raiders Says:

    Everyone said last year was JC’s breakout year. Well for all of his great stats, his team avg 17 points per game.

    Dont even start with they had a bad Oline. Their Oline gave up fewer sacks than the 2009 Raiders Oline. Their Oline allowed JC to start the entire year. Our Oline killed 3 QB’s.

  224. Plunketthead Says:

    Hannah Montana?

    You euros sure are strange. When you are not talking about American football and swilling bud, do you debate the merits of Hannah growing up?

    I bet you had one of those countdown clocks in every town square when the Olsen twins were 16

  225. Plunketthead Says:

    Firebaby

    Who won the battle of New Mexico?
    Do they have a cannon or an axe or something that goes to the winner?

  226. Raider Ray Says:

    Aig says, “They’ll rule the Bay for the next 10 years. And we’ll go back to being an embarrassment in the nfl.”

    Huh? We already are the embarrassment of the NFL.

  227. ghosttothepost Says:

    Simple cliche’ sums up today: “Put up or Shut up.”

    Every Raider needs to grow a pair today, defend their home turf like it means something and be accountable for beating the guy in front of them more times than he beats you.

    Keep it simple. Just win baby.

  228. aig-raiders Says:

    Raider Ray,

    We’re an embarrassment when we get blown out 38 points to the Titans. We’re an embarrassment when we can barely score 10 points. You should be thankful to Bruce for putting the team in position to win or tie the game the last 2 weeks. You may have your love for JC but you aint got nothing to back it up other than your personal opinion. 30k fans chanting his name as he enter the final drive last week was for a good reason. They saw what he had done. They believed in him and he didnt disappoint either. You on the other hand got your opinion but nothing to back it up.

  229. ghosttothepost Says:

    it would suck to concentrate all my rooting interest on the Sharks the first week of October … AGAIN

  230. Just Fire Baby Says:

    New Mexico state beat the Lobo’s 16-14.

    New Mexico had 5 fumbles. The coach is a pathetic excuse for a human being, punching assistants (sound familiar?) and started actual physical fights with the hard-hitting Albuquerque press. Let the Mike Leach countdown start.

    No axe or anything I don’t believe, but somehow they have been playing football annually (they claim) for 101 years, although New Mexico hasn’t been an actual state that long, and I don’t know too many football games being played in 1910.

  231. ghosttothepost Says:

    so today’s the day … there’s no more tomorrows … i don’t give a damn who the Raiders are playing … if they want to salvage any semblance of a season (and at least a slice of pride) they must win today … no other way

  232. ghosttothepost Says:

    JFB … I lived in ABQ for 10 years and wrote sports in Moriarty … UNM & NMSU football are truly pathetic … that 16-14 nail-biter must have been a thing of beauty

  233. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Craziest thing about last night’s game was that the New Mexico State Aggies were 2 point favorites.

    Final score: 16-14

    Vegas wins again.

  234. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ghost,

    You should see what they are doing to the Pit. Massive expansion, it will now hold 32,000 with suites and alchohol sales.

    Coach Alford is pushing the Albuquerque economy by himself.

  235. ghosttothepost Says:

    those guys get paid a lot of money to be right more than they’re wrong … hey, the Raiders get paid lots of money to play football well, too, don’t they? … see a correlation here?

  236. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Plunketthead,

    You got edited out. LOL

  237. ghosttothepost Says:

    Yeah, I used to love to go to the Pit. I used to go to almost every game when Kenny Thomas was dominated the MWC .. it’s about the only game in town … SEND ME SOME REAL GREEN CHILE PLEASE!

  238. ghosttothepost Says:

    Is that Hispanic guy still covering the Lobos for the Journal? What’s his name?

  239. ghosttothepost Says:

    JFB … Is the green chile still getting roasted in front of the grocery stores, or is it too late in the season?

  240. Plunketthead Says:

    The Lions are the undisputed champions of embaresment.
    Throw the Browns in there and the Aints untill Brees blew into town.

    The Jets play in the largest market and suck with one VL.
    The Bills hahahahahahahahahahah, excuse me. I could not help myself.
    The Cards untill Warner saved them for one year.
    The Lambs? See above

    I am serious about my weekly devotion to the Raiders.
    I go into every game thinking we can win that day.
    I can not wake up Sunday and say “bummer, we are gonna lose today”.
    That would take all the fun out of it. Its just another small part of life here on the spaceship Earth.

    We will turn the ship around and we will upset some teams this year and I will be cheering all game long in front of my boob tube.
    When we lose, I am irritable tha evening but I quickly get over it amd look forward to the next game. I cant picture myself whining and moaning all season long about something I have no control over. Thats why I support whoever wear Silver & Black.

    But thats just me
    You are welcome to live your life as you do.

  241. Plunketthead Says:

    Doesnt NM have the “pit”?
    You have that to look forward to. That must be an awesome place to watch a game.

    I went to tons of Tark games at the convention center and later the T&M. And that was a lot of fun.

  242. Plunketthead Says:

    CC just said Brady and Moss went head to toe last week

  243. Plunketthead Says:

    Looks like one reason the Titans blew us away is because they have taken cheating to a new art form. We were the first test and were not ready for it.

    I dont mean to excuse everything but they did play as if they were not worried about penaltys, especially offsides.

  244. Plunketthead Says:

    Ex

    lol Theres somethings you just cant talk about and my post was not very offensive.
    I guess RMR was right. It was over the line for such a fine family styled blog such as this.

  245. aig-raiders Says:

    LMAO…pretty darn funny there Plunk.

  246. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Today’s date is 10/10/10.

    The last time that happened, the earth was travelling through the tail end of Haley’s Comet and a lot of unusual things happened around the world.

    Raiders 27-24!

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  247. Mistabr0wn Says:

    The Chiefs absolutely have to lose today 4-0 cant be an option. If we lose it doesn’t matter, season over and back to discussing the many failures of pres purple lips.

    Just Win Baby!

  248. aig-raiders Says:

    I hate the Chargers and Rivers the most. Please win today. For once, defend the home turf.

  249. Mistabr0wn Says:

    C Portis is hurt as much as our Chaz I wonder what the Skins fans think of that mope.

  250. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Divisional games matter the most , no better time to get this thing going than today. Bush needs to pound the rock.

  251. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Portis at least played in more than 2 games before the IR

  252. Raider Ray Says:

    I think the Lions are more respected now then the Raiders.

  253. Mistabr0wn Says:

    And at least Portis gets hurt in games while Chaz gets hurt in practice. Nevertheless Portis is a goon. When he defended M Vicks dog fighting I was done with him. Has he played more than 6 games in the 5 years?

  254. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ghost,

    Yup, Green Chiles are roasting all over town. My wife is a maven with those things.

    Just had the balloon fiest this week. Don’t know about the hispanic dude covering sports, but my wife went to UNM at the same time as Kenny Thomas and knew him, because her best friend was dating a guy on the football team, who was a pretty good TE who went on to play a few years in Canada.

  255. ghosttothepost Says:

    JFB … That pungent odor of REAL green chiles roasting is hard to forget

  256. mistic1 Says:

    There is no such yhing as a “race card”! There are real issues in amerikkka, around race, black folks among others have suffered, & still do. Please understand our hyper sensativity where these matters are concerned, it is a survival mechanism. Much the way a mongoose is hyper sensative in the prescence of a cobra.

  257. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Cornell Green…false start in the red zone…..

  258. Plunketthead Says:

    Aig

    Which one was funny?

  259. Roch R Says:

    Go Raiders! S’up Nation!

  260. Plunketthead Says:

    Never mind, It had to be the Raiders dont suck rant

  261. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    It’s too early in the morning to do the race thing…. I could care less if our qb was an eskimo as along as he scored TD’s……And I kep hearing this Crapola about Bruce being too short thats why his balls get tippedd…You guys act like he’s a midget..He’s taller than Bree’s and Bree’s sure than hell gets thing done…Well and Bree’s has a O-Line and Wideouts haha but still its more of Bruce’s delivery and us playing Andre the Giant at center

  262. Mistabr0wn Says:

    What brought this off topic rant on?
    ______

    # mistic1 Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    There is no such yhing as a “race card”! There are real issues in amerikkka, around race, black folks among others have suffered, & still do. Please understand our hyper sensativity where these matters are concerned, it is a survival mechanism. Much the way a mongoose is hyper sensative in the prescence of a cobra.

  263. Roch R Says:

    I love Sunday’s right before game time…..not always the case after game time….

  264. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Colts defense looks a lot like the Raiders. THey are talking about DEs overpursuing, gap control, containment….wow

  265. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Sunday is time for football man.

  266. Roch R Says:

    Let’s hope that McClain is hyper-sensitive in the presence of Darren Sproules.

  267. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    October 10th, 2010 at 8:55 am

    plunk…

    swilling bud, never! I rather drink the pi5s from a man that have been drinking tar for a week… any beer before I drink a Bud, I have standards you obviously dont have… take a trip to 3urope and learn a little about beer-culture… LOL

    btw… you brought up Hannah, so ofcourse I thought you were talking about americas teen s1üt montana =) LOL

  268. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Peyton needs to crush the Queefs and throw for 400 yards and 4 Td’s for the raider nation’s sake and my fantasy team’s sake

  269. Roch R Says:

    SnB, how is KC looking? Are they for real? I haven’t watched a game of theirs yet.

  270. Kirk Says:

    What makes the Raiders think they can defend the run with a defensive end that weights only 265?

    I am glad Shaughnessy is starting today.

  271. praidertor Says:

    Morning fellow Raider fans.The local newspaper’s critique down here in boltland:
    Qb – edge Chargers
    Rb – edge Chargers
    Recvrs – edge Chargers
    O-line – edge Chargers
    D line – edge Chargers
    Lb’s -_edge Chargers
    D backs – edge Chargers
    Spec team – edge Raiders
    Final Score – Chargers 42 Raiders 13
    I personally “need” a Raider victory. I have seen 3 graduating classes pass through 4 years of high school without a Raider victory. Where is the devil? My soul is available!

  272. La Milicia Negra Says:

    WTF is KC doing??

  273. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why on earth would the Chiefs go for that?

    OK than Haley….

  274. Thec07 Says:

    what up NATION? dont count on the cooks “coming back down to earth”. They have the best coaching staff in the AFC west. Would not surprise me if they beat indy.

  275. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Roch R Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:22 am
    SnB, how is KC looking? Are they for real? I haven’t watched a game of theirs yet.
    =====================================================
    They run the ball with authority.

  276. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Dwight Freeney= 268 Jared Allen= 270 Chris Long= 276

  277. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Todd Haley is a douche

  278. Thec07 Says:

    Raiders 31 – disc – 24

  279. Roch R Says:

    Todd Haley is a douche!! For sure, just look at him, he’s the “gay dad” that you had to car pool with as a kid, always yelling at his kids, and driving like an idiot….

    Todd Haley is gay dad, Tom Cable is funny Uncle, that smells like beer and has stains on his bowling shirt.

  280. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Roch…..Thats the funniest thing I’ve heard today…Ur dead on when it comes to both… Cable=Uncle Buck

  281. Roch R Says:

    Josh McDaniels is the dick that dates your aunt, that tries too hard in the family football games and lays out Grandma.

  282. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Chiefs are going to lose by 30.

  283. Thec07 Says:

    TO just cuaght a 43 yrd pass from palmer…
    remind me again why we didnt go after TO????

  284. Kirk Says:

    Sorry, PD, Scott is listed at 255 and gets thrown around like a rag doll on running plays.

  285. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Josh Mcdaniels is the guy who try’s to hard but gets laid out by Grandma….He’s a Weinie

  286. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    Chiefs are going to lose by 30.

    ++++++++++++++++==

    hahahahahahaha…..not…

  287. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I jus seen the 265 and had to do some research

  288. Roch R Says:

    Norv Turner is the weird neighbor that is always in his front yard staring at people.

  289. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I cant stop laughing picturing all this

  290. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hue Jackson and Darius Heyward-Bey should have watched the Manning to Wayne quick slant pass. That’s what they need to do. Wayne catches and runs for about 10 yards

  291. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Colts in the red zone at the 5 yard line….Bills kickn azz

  292. Thec07 Says:

    Hue Jackson D+
    Darius Heyward-Bey C-

  293. Roch R Says:

    I think we need to start a petition to have Dan Foutts banned as a commentator, seriously he just may be the most annoying person on the planet…i mean he’s that QB that was known for his beard!?!

  294. aig-raiders Says:

    den, kc and hopefully sd will lose today.

  295. Roch R Says:

    Quick, someone put up a bill board that Reads “Dan Foutt’s Beard will drain your intelligence”

  296. Roch R Says:

    I’m thinking Murphy has a big day today, he’s due.

  297. Plunketthead Says:

    You may have forgotten but all the euros were swilling bud at the world cup, thats where I got that from.

    It was a joke, but that part skips over your head in your haste to poke fingers at Americans.

    I was talking about Hannah Storm, not the extremly young pop tart that is renting space in your head you dirty minded old euro, you.

  298. Roch R Says:

    Sooo, anyone want to bet, Tom Cable is wearing the bowling shirt again this week?

  299. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hakeem Nicks with 2 TDs…

  300. Thec07 Says:

    Houston getting kicked in the nutz by gints…

  301. Roch R Says:

    Bets to be made:

    Over/under for the attendance today…. 18,000

    (attendence has been brutal, that’s why the field trucks have broken windshields)

    Cable attire:

    Odds:
    Tom Landry style tie and Fedora: 100-1
    Avaitor shades: 50-1
    Hat big enough to fit on his head: 30-1
    Flores style collared undershirt and sweater: 25-1
    Gruden style visor: 20-1
    Barney Rubble costume: 15-1
    Bowling Shirt: 2-1

    Next Bet:

    JLH Fair-catches every punt today: 3-1

    Bet:

    Satele does an ole-whiff on the nose guard on at least one 2nd and 3 play: 4-1

    Any others???

  302. kidseven Says:

    This one will be decided in the first five minutes. Either the Raiders are the aggressors, physically dominating, or they aren’t. Sorry to say no flea-flicker pass-back-to-the-QB or SeaBass fake FG end run is going to make the difference today Cable. Players need to make plays. And Bush needs to rumble.

  303. Thec07 Says:

    denver down 14-0 just fumbled kick off…hahahhahaha

  304. Roch R Says:

    Rumble Bush Rumble…..cheers to that.

  305. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think JLH is returning punts today, it is going to be Nick Miller.

  306. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Good morning/afternoon, and evening to the warm beer drinkers across the pond…

    Got my bloody mary next to me….cheers!

    Now, just gotta hope we can somehow find a way to beat those scumbags from Dago…..

  307. kidseven Says:

    Nice Roch.

    Cable attire:

    Something truly fashionable 250-1
    A slightly undersized Tank Top 6-1
    A soft cast on his smackdown hand 3-1
    Mock Turtleneck 2-1

  308. Roch R Says:

    Yeah soft cast!!! Seriously laughing out loud!!

  309. IslandRaider Says:

    Roch R Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:53 am
    Bets to be made:

    Over/under for the attendance today…. 18,000

    (attendence has been brutal, that’s why the field trucks have broken windshields)

    Cable attire:

    Odds:
    Tom Landry style tie and Fedora: 100-1
    Avaitor shades: 50-1
    Hat big enough to fit on his head: 30-1
    Flores style collared undershirt and sweater: 25-1
    Gruden style visor: 20-1
    Barney Rubble costume: 15-1
    Bowling Shirt: 2-1

    Next Bet:

    JLH Fair-catches every punt today: 3-1

    Bet:

    Satele does an ole-whiff on the nose guard on at least one 2nd and 3 play: 4-1

    Any others???

    ………………………………

    Yeah. Cable is asked for his autograph by a fan who mistakes him for John Goodman: Even

  310. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Giants 21, Texans 0 LOL!

  311. A.B. Paine III Says:

    The Texans aren’t even that good.

  312. IslandRaider Says:

    Could be huge today. KC and Denver losses & a Raider win starts to level up the division.

  313. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jimmy Clausen looks like a 7th round pick not a 2nd rounder.

  314. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I needed those Hakeem Nicks Td’s

  315. kidseven Says:

    Going to be fun to see Nick Miller real-time against real players. Like Bruce, all Nick has done so far is make plays. I have a feeling it will translate. The only way the Raiders win today is if someone, anyone, has a breakout performance. Someone has to go above and beyond all expectation.

  316. Thec07 Says:

    Going to be fun to see Nick Miller real-time
    ++++++++++++++

    Hope to also see him play in the slot….

    Target JLH and JFORD both have better hands than DHB, and my boy LMURPHY..

  317. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    We really dont know how goo J.Ford’s hands really are he hasnt really played….I like the kid and i hope he does big things but rite now he is a question mark

  318. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    **Good

  319. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:56 am
    I don’t think JLH is returning punts today, it is going to be Nick Miller.
    =======================================================
    I think JLH will be getting a lot more time at WR today though

  320. A.B. Paine III Says:

    There are as many Bear fans in Carolina as there are Raider fans at Charger games.

  321. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I’m pretty sure the Raiders are better than the Panthers.

  322. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Yet Haley is 3-0 and Cable is on the brink of being canned.
    _______

    # Roch R Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Todd Haley is a douche!! For sure, just look at him, he’s the “gay dad” that you had to car pool with as a kid, always yelling at his kids, and driving like an idiot….

    Todd Haley is gay dad, Tom Cable is funny Uncle, that smells like beer and has stains on his bowling shirt.

  323. djohnnyg Says:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:11 am
    There are as many Bear fans in Carolina as there are Raider fans at Charger games.

    Yeah, do you notice how Todd Collins is single handedly trying to keep Carolina in the game? He throws an int. on the 2 yd. line TO A DEFENSIVE LINEMEN, then he overthrows a wide open receiver downfield for another int.

    I look at Collins and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Al goes after him as our new saviour.

  324. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Packer D-Line is just manhandling the Redskin O-Line

  325. Thec07 Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:08 am
    We really dont know how goo J.Ford’s hands really are he hasnt really played….I like the kid and i hope he does big things but rite now he is a question mark

    ++++++++++++==

    Not for me he needs to play more, he gets target he makes plasy…plain and simple he and JLH needs to be on the field…F DHB sit him…

  326. djohnnyg Says:

    I sometimes wonder if Al isn’t doing everything he does just to spite everyone, and to tick us all off.

  327. Thec07 Says:

    JFORD is a far better option than DHB….

  328. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Because we have “still photo” DHB, alligator arms Murphy, and twinkle toes Schilens.
    ______

    # Thec07 Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 10:36 am

    TO just cuaght a 43 yrd pass from palmer…
    remind me again why we didnt go after TO????

  329. djohnnyg Says:

    Collins just threw his 3rd int. He’s on his way to Oakland tomorrow.

  330. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sad thing is, three years ago Todd Collins was an upgrade over Jason Campbell for the Redskins.

  331. Thec07 Says:

    JFORD hands > DHB hands…not even close…

  332. Plunketthead Says:

    Dont forget

    The coach of the mules started last season 6-0 and the talking heads said he was the greatest thing since canned spam

  333. Mistabr0wn Says:

    JFORD = Carlos Francis

    Out of the league in 3 years.

  334. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:19 am
    Because we have “still photo” DHB, alligator arms Murphy, and twinkle
    ++++++++++++

    A blast from one of the blog Pros….hahahahahaa

    I was crying loud for us to get TO… He is ripping
    in the C…

  335. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    JFORD = Carlos Francis

    Out of the league in 3 years.
    +++++++++++=

    Come on Brown, JFORD has waaaayyy better hands than francis…

  336. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Thec,
    Id rather go 4-12 without TO than 6-10 with him.

    Feel me?

  337. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Odds that Cable DOESN’T get a timeout called in time in the first half.. 1-9

    Over/under on beads of sweat on his fat head, by midway thru 1st. qtr… 750

  338. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Thec,
    I have not seen those hands or the KR skills. When I do I will take him off my list.

    Deal?

  339. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:23 am
    Thec,
    Id rather go 4-12 without TO than 6-10 with him.

    Feel me?

    ++++++++++

    Damn Brown you must really hate TO…

  340. A.B. Paine III Says:

    The Bears would be better off not passing for the rest of the game.

  341. Mistabr0wn Says:

    I would love to take these guys off the “list”
    -Schilens
    -FordFrancis
    -DHB-
    -Murphy
    -JLH
    -Seymour
    -SeaPerch

    They just wont cooperate!

  342. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:24 am
    Thec,
    I have not seen those hands or the KR skills. When I do I will take him off my list.

    Deal?

    ++++++++++++

    OK deal Brown however, he does have the logest KR for a raider this year at 64.

  343. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Thec,
    I’m not a TO fan. But If we were close to being a legit NFL football team I would hold my nose and accept TO on our squad. Right now I wouldn’t touch that mental patient with a 10 foot pole.

  344. Thec07 Says:

    The Bears would be better off not passing for the rest of the game.
    +++++++=

    not sure why they stopped forte had 100 yards and 2 db in the first qtr…

    Might have something to do with the gambling odds…

  345. maitaipony Says:

    Plunketthead says:
    My office insider just texted me

    He said word around the office is Al thinks Devin Thomas is a great football player and will soon be a Raider
    ———————
    Why doesn’t Davis just trade with Snyder Raiders for the Skins… he’s so in love with their players… This way he’ll get both Shanahans to screw over again.

  346. Mistabr0wn Says:

    When he takes 1 to the house and has a 20 – 25 return avg wake me up. For now I will forgive his WR play if he gives us that.
    _____

    # Thec07 Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:27 am

    OK deal Brown however, he does have the logest KR for a raider this year at 64.

  347. Thec07 Says:

    Brown, TSCOTT should be on your list as a DE…He straight sucs, hopefully he stays at lb…

  348. Mistabr0wn Says:

    We cant even get help from Indy ?

    6-3 <——–WTF

  349. djohnnyg Says:

    Still not sure if I’m gonna watch theb game today or not.

    Everytime I watch the Raiders it ruins my Sunday night.

    I definitely will not have the sound on. All they will talk about is “the streak”.

  350. Mistabr0wn Says:

    TSCOTT is so irrelevant I forgot about him. WTF is he a LB or DE…..or neither?

  351. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m going to do my part for the Breast Cancer awareness week, and drink this Pink Lemonade Vodka.

  352. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:32 am
    TSCOTT is so irrelevant I forgot about him. WTF is he a LB or DE…..or neither?

    ++++++++++++++==

    Neither, he is a “pass rush specialist”…

  353. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Thec who was that DE that put a knee into the family jewels of a player and then we released him and he went to the Panthers?

    That is TSCOTT!

  354. Mistabr0wn Says:

    JFB, way to announce drinking womens drink on game day!

  355. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 10th, 2010 at 11:34 am
    Thec who was that DE that put a knee into the family jewels of a player and then we released him and he went to the Panthers?

    That is TSCOTT!

    ++++++++++

    ROFLMAO….

  356. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I’m tired of officials taking TDs away from Calvin Johnson. I need his fantasy points.

  357. Just Fire Baby Says:

    MB,

    It’s a warm-up, I will be sailing the seas with my man Mr. Morgan by kickoff.

  358. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Tyler Brayton was the player who kneed the Seahawk in the groin.

  359. fat kidd Says:

    cable out jt the brick in

  360. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Who injurs a hammy today?
    Choices are:
    -Huff
    -Mario
    -McClain
    -Z Miller

  361. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Here is the video of Brayton:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGG0zWu_VIs

  362. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Today will be the Michael Bush and Louis Murphy Show….book it!

    Now, can the defense stop somebody?

  363. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Chiefs D-Line taking it to Manning on successive snaps

  364. Thec07 Says:

    -Mario

  365. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Peyton Manning with the same exact type of fumble as Bruce before the end of the first half last week.

    Sometimes the great ones make mistakes too.

  366. Mistabr0wn Says:

    AB, thanks!

    TSCOTT = TBRAYTON

  367. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Did Jerry forget its Sunday ?

  368. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I think the Chiefs are for realz.

  369. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Your 2010 Oakland Raiders:

    Darrius Heyward Jett
    Trevor Brayton
    Darnell Huff
    Louis Mickens
    Rolando Millen
    Tommy Long
    Lyle Seymour

  370. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    In the parking lot

    Seats at 127

    Hit me!

  371. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Mistabrown.

    WTF? is right… what in the wide world of sports is a goin on here?

    Archies middle son needs to step it up…

  372. Guy Says:

    scott is a 3-4 olb

  373. djohnnyg Says:

    Winners are winners. How can Tom Cable impart a “winning” attitude to his team when he himself comes from a history of losing?

    I see a problem of not knowing what it’s like to win.
    Lottery winners almost always regress to where they were before they won, because that’s what they know; that’s “who they are”. All Cable knows is losing. Cable couldn’t even win with Idaho, and he certainly hasn’t learned much about winning with Oakland.

    He’s very comfortable with losing. It’s who he is.

  374. Plunketthead Says:

    Your first round pick is starting to pay dividends.

    Opps calling that one back

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