Raiders chat here today at noon
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, October 12th, 2010 at 11:30 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Jerry McDonald takes your Raiders questions about the win over the Chargers and the upcoming game against the 49ers during a Raiders live chat on Tuesday, Oct. 12 at noon.
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October 12th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Primero.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
1st?
October 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
2nd?
October 12th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Yeah, got a 2nd. For the runnerup prize, I get an official Randy Hansen Memo Pad!
October 12th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Foot must remain firmly on the gas pedal for the 49er game.
They are prone to turnovers and Gore hasn’t been running all that well lately.
Davis will get his. Shut down everyone else and do your best to contain him and rattle Smith, we got ourselves a W and the begining of a new kind of streak…
October 12th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Need picks, but first need a GM-Coach combo that knows what to do with them.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Last week was a statement game for sure.
Special teams needed to step up and they did. Defense needed to be better in the red zone and blitz more effectively and they did. Offense needed to sustain some long drives and keep the SD offense off the field and they did.
Good job, now fugheddaboutit and go fug up the 9ers.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:36 am
LA……I totally agree….cant lose this game no matter what
October 12th, 2010 at 11:38 am
You said it Bauce Hog. Too many times we get what should be a ‘corner-turning’ win only to let the next one slip away.
This is a must win, but really every game needs to be looked at that way from our standpoint.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Don’t care if it’s Campbell or Grad, O Line needs to be on point, cause their front 7 is nasty.
One of those games where you HAVE to get the ball downfield and challenge their secondary.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Question to Jerry: Can you confirm the rumors regarding the positive impact Coach Southwick has had on Jason Campbell since his benching?
October 12th, 2010 at 11:40 am
I just want the Raiders to demolish the 9ers so I don’t have to hear thier BS talk for the next year.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Well the thing is if you want the support base to fill up the coliseum then u must win a big time game like this verse a winless team. It would mean the world to people up here who have easier access to going to the games and those that travel from other cities
October 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Clements falls for the double move everytime. Hope the Oline gives our WRs enough time to pull a DM.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
LOL Bo kills me with the Southwick stuff…..may be funniest thing ever on this blog besides my constant smashing of MR
October 12th, 2010 at 11:42 am
RNO……i remember JLH netted a PI on him last preseason doing a double move…….good call clements
October 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Southwick is for real! I seen the guy knocking water bottles off the top of cones from 50 yards away!
October 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
I just looked at our box score from Sunday and this is my favorite stat of the year so far….
Fumbles
SD
FUM LOST REC YDS
P. Rivers 2 2 0 0
M. Tolbert 1 1 0 0
OAK
Fumbles FUM LOST REC YDS
J. Campbell 1 0 0 0
J. Ford 1 0 1 0
Z. Miller 1 0 0 0
T. Branch 0 0 1 64
R. Brown 0 0 1 0
L. Houston 0 0 1 0
M. Huff 0 0 0 0
D. Loper 0 0 1 3
M. Mitchell 0 0 1 12
M. Shaughnessy 0 0 0 0
If that didn’t post very clear, basically, SD fumbled 3 times and we recovered all three. We fumbled three times and recovered all three.
That’s six times we were Johnny on the Spot, even if we had some butterfingers ourselves.
Good alert play and some awareness.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
bush and mcfadden will light up the ground front 7 will contain gore huff will shadow davis ASO will cover morgan routt will be on crabtree smith will test aso and get picked rookie line men for 49ers get eatin ALIVE by seymour
October 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Clements plays aggressive, we need to use that aggressivness against him.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
bush and mcfadden will light up the ground front 7 will contain gore huff will shadow davis ASO will cover morgan routt will be on crabtree smith will test aso and get picked rookie line men for 49ers get eatin ALIVE by seymour
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Wow, slow down, this is too much for me to take. I don’t think the Raiders are quite there yet.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
I’ve got to run……………
LATER NATION!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 11:49 am
clements will domnait to murphy or DHB but we will beat them with the run and miller will draw willis out of the box we should run a lot of draws
October 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Something tells me Al Davis will try to use this weekend to make a statement about why he picked DHB over Crabtree. DHB is going to get a lot of passes thrown his way this weekend. It’s best that Al Davis better put #21 on #15.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
bush and mcfadden will light up the ground front 7 will contain gore huff will shadow davis ASO will cover morgan routt will be on crabtree smith will test aso and get picked rookie line men for 49ers get eatin ALIVE by seymour
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Wow, slow down, this is too much for me to take. I don’t think the Raiders are quite there yet.
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We’ll see. Big statement game and we hit SD in the mouth right out the gate.
This is another big statement game. I know the 49ers are 0-5 and reeling and it’s not a division game or whatever, but a statement for us.
Statement is: We can win two in a row. We can come out on fire week in and week out.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I think routt will be on crabtree maybe not but morgan is good so I could see ASO on him a lot more
October 12th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I think the 49ers offensive gameplay will be a whole lotta Davis and a whole lotta Gore.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:54 am
gameplan*
The concern is they look at the tape on Rivers torching us and try to emulate it, but they dont have the receivers, QB, or system to be that vertical, so yeah, Davis and Gore.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I’d like to see us do what we haven’t done in years which is blow someone out. Or at least win by a comfortable margin so we can play 3/4 or 1/2 a game in 4:00 offense like Cable said he was hoping for against SD.
It will require more sustained offensive drives and some big defensive stops.
The key will be to come out early and finish strong, just like the SD game.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I think SF will look at the Houston game and try to do what they did. The only problem is I don’t think that SF runs the ZBS like Hou.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Fire the coaches!!!!!
Everyone knows JC should be playing over Grads. Made no sense to bench the guy that soon.
Good win but Cable is an idiot or who ever made the call! If Grads is well we go back to him, why? You fool.
JC is a rythm QB he makes your offense into a smooth sports car engine. Grads makes your offense into a dink and dunk old reliable truck. We need to be sporty!
October 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Everyone knows JC should be playing over Grads. Made no sense to bench the guy that soon.
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If by everyone you mean about 8-10% of the fans, then OK yeah.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Popcicledrip Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I think routt will be on crabtree maybe not but morgan is good so I could see ASO on him a lot more
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Their receivers are not scary. Look for the corners to stay on their own sides and take whoever lines up on them.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
stop the run early make then beat us with the pass
October 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Well its important to get this game because of the Bay Area braggin rights title and……….KC travels to houston, NYJ goes to Dungver and SD has to play a tough game on the road in STL……..we talking 3-3 with the possibility of being only a half game out of first with the other two teams behind us. Im sure this is being preached at headquarters
October 12th, 2010 at 11:59 am
popcicledrip Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I think routt will be on crabtree maybe not but morgan is good so I could see ASO on him a lot more
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crabtree is the real deal…. ASO should draw him as he gets waaaayyyy more targets than josh morgan…
October 12th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
We are 10 point dogs against the 9ors….
That should also be bulletin board material…
October 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Not sure if everyone knows, but the Raiders vs. Chargers replay is tomorrow night at 9:15pm on the NFL network.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Of course the DHB statement will be attempted….come on….but im sure he will be extra pumped for the game as well
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Crab isnt better than Morgan….believe that
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
MM34 should draw the davis assignment…
Gates had like 1 catch against him….
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
who ever alex smith likes throwing the ball to more ASO should cover and if he is stupid a nuff to throw at him hell know why he’s best CB in the league routt should give morgan fits wow can’t belive I just said that
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Crab isnt better than Morgan….believe that
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the stats dont lie Bruh…He gets the targets not Morgan…
October 12th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I’ve been saying for a year now that Nnamdi is not worth the $15 million. Rivers is the only QB with big enough gnads to challenge him. In fact, Rivers picks on Nnamdi. Last year Vincent Jackson made a name for himself against Nnamdi. The other day Malcolm Floyd got his name out there. I’d trade Nnamdi in a heartbeat for 2 second round picks.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Alex Smith is going to be scared to throw Nnamdi’s way. Rivers did because he is fearless.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Against the Niners, we gotta stop the run. Smith don’t have to throw if we don’t stop the run. Our most important player for this game will be McClain.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Crab isnt better than Morgan….believe that
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the stats dont lie Bruh…He gets the targets not Morgan
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LOL why you think Craptree and DHB get more targets? Come on Theculator
October 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
504…..im damn sure with that movement
October 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Since my prediction about Campbell was correct, I will give my prediction for this week:
The Raider will run the ball a lot, and well. But, the game will be a low scoring, hard hitting game. The Raiders pull it out with 7 Janikowski field goals. Raiders 21, 49ers 18
October 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Philly Game
Player Rec Yrds TD Long
M. Crabtree 9 105 1 22
V. Davis 5 104 1 36
D. Zeigler 2 32 0 20
T. Ginn 2 26 0 17
F. Gore 4 21 1 11
J. Morgan 3 21 0 16
October 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
DHB will be targeted-by who?Campbell acts as if we don’t have any WRs.2 completions to WRs in the 1st half of the Ram game,2 completions to WRs last week.That is his biggest flaw-he won’t cut it loose and let the WRs make plays.But he better this week or we will get beat.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
DHB won’t be lighting any fires if Campbell is starting. I don’t think Jason trusts him yet, he doesn’t even seem to look his way. Hard to blame Jason for that but one broken play that Solomon Wilcots was pointing out was pretty open.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Where is Priest? Hey Buddy….
“They’re a single-deep safety, natural pressure team that brings blitzes occasionally. That’s what Al Davis wants and most of the time, has had. But if you bring pressure and have success, you’ll get to do it more. We’ll see.”
Still singing your same old song?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
agreed we need to trade ASO for lineman and a couple of good picks you guys keep saying first rounder and great player well look what broncos got for marshall 2 second rounders
October 12th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
As much as I hate him, Rivers is a damn good QB, with ridiculous accuracy that plays us twice a year.
He probably will never play a better game this year, and our secondary won’t play a worse one.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Everyone knows JC should be playing over Grads. Made no sense to bench the guy that soon.
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If by everyone you mean about 8-10% of the fans, then OK yeah.
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I have learned in this life and you probably have too….the masses usually dont know what they are talking about
October 12th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
when Smith makes he progerssion who was he looking for in the Philly game;
1. Davis
1A. Crabs
I like Josh Morgan dont get me wrong he is the john taylor of the 90rs however, crabtree is his goto guy
and they are building. Cant compare crabs to DHB no comparision…crabs is years ahead…DHB should be coming out of college this year….
October 12th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
DHB will be targeted-by who?Campbell acts as if we don’t have any WRs.2 completions to WRs in the 1st half of the Ram game,2 completions to WRs last week.That is his biggest flaw-he won’t cut it loose and let the WRs make plays.But he better this week or we will get beat.
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How many passes did wr’s catch against the Texans???
October 12th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
If Nnamdi was more of a vocal leader and get in guys faces like Ray Lewis, I would support him more. Even Ray Lewis gets beat in coverage now and then. But Lewis gets guys to play above their heads. The Ravens have had many DC’s since Ray was drafted yet they still have a great defense and it starts and ends with Lewis. Nnamdi just collect checks on Mondays. IMO.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
only comparison crabtree to DHB is of course the money, it all crumbles after that, however to say crabtree cant ball is crazy talk…
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Crabtree stinks, I’d rather have Heyward-Bey. Crabtree will implode after a couple of years.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
As much as I hate him, Rivers is a damn good QB, with ridiculous accuracy that plays us twice a year.
He probably will never play a better game this year, and our secondary won’t play a worse one.
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You blitz him in the 1st and 2nd qtr when we have our foot on their necks he becomes moot….
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
“last night I mistakenly deleted half my post. The deleted half specifically talked about our 3-4 and the blitz package we used”
No you didn’t.
What you said was…..
“Every team we have ever won the trophy with relied on a base 4-3 man press just like yesterday.”
You DID have a moment, but it was more like a senior moment.=
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Thats your big come back? “your lying”? Too funny! Like you actually matter enough, for me to care about what you believe. ROFL!
October 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Crabtree stinks, I’d rather have Heyward-Bey. Crabtree will implode after a couple of years.
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Crabtree stinks how? Dude makes catches…Please explain
October 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Raider Ray has been drinking from tj’s moonshine jug.
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Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Crabtree stinks, I’d rather have Heyward-Bey. Crabtree will implode after a couple of years.
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Crabtree stinks how? Dude makes catches…Please explain
October 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
popcicledrip Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
agreed we need to trade ASO for lineman and a couple of good picks you guys keep saying first rounder and great player well look what broncos got for marshall 2 second rounders
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I would rather have 2 second rounders than a 1st almost every time. I read somewhere that they have a higher rate of success and they are far less expensive.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Thec07, Crabtree has been very disappointing. Last week was his only good game of the year. He acts like a Diva but doesn’t have the production to back it up.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
People who think first round picks are valuable really don’t know jack about football.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Yep, if we had blitzed early we would have forced SD into a 1 dimensional passing attack and maybe #21 could make a play for us, but not likely.
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Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
As much as I hate him, Rivers is a damn good QB, with ridiculous accuracy that plays us twice a year.
He probably will never play a better game this year, and our secondary won’t play a worse one.
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You blitz him in the 1st and 2nd qtr when we have our foot on their necks he becomes moot….
October 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
crabtree has double the recpetions, and yardage of DHB.
I like DHB however, comparing DHB to crabtree, crabtree wins at this point hands down….
October 12th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
“last night I mistakenly deleted half my post. The deleted half specifically talked about our 3-4 and the blitz package we used”
No you didn’t.
What you said was…..
“Every team we have ever won the trophy with relied on a base 4-3 man press just like yesterday.”
You DID have a moment, but it was more like a senior moment.=
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Thats your big come back? “your lying”? Too funny! Like you actually matter enough, for me to care about what you believe. ROFL!
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Wuts up mistic
Hope you been holding it down for JC and the betterment of the team in my absence
October 12th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Crabtree’s 1 and only good game is 1 more than DHB has had.
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Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Thec07, Crabtree has been very disappointing. Last week was his only good game of the year. He acts like a Diva but doesn’t have the production to back it up.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Thec07, Crabtree has been very disappointing. Last week was his only good game of the year. He acts like a Diva but doesn’t have the production to back it up.
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Who said that Alex Smith?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Crabtree has 20 catches for 244 yrds 1 TD
Murphy 18 catches 304 yrds 1 TD
Murphy is the better receiver. DHB has potential and is not a complete diva.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
If Crabtree gets seperation from our DBs, Sanjay Lol needs to be fired.
We have faster WRs…Niners have slower DBs…We have faster DBs and Niners have slower WRs.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
How many passes did wr’s catch against the Texans???
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More than the Rams first half and the Chargers game combined.
And that does not get to include the 17 yard completion that Murphy shat the bed on.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
ONe thing for sure.
Crabtree can’t block like DHB!!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Mistabr0wn Says
Crabtree’s 1 and only good game is 1 more than DHB has had.
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When the Pros speak, pay close attention…
October 12th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
DHB is a valuable decoy.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
who does everybody think has there best game this sunday for raiders and who has there worst game
October 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Crabtree has 20 catches for 244 yrds 1 TD
Murphy 18 catches 304 yrds 1 TD
Murphy is the better receiver. DHB has potential and is not a complete diva.
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Really….
October 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I’m not saying DHB is better than Crabtree, because he isn’t. I’m saying I would rather have Heyward-Bey on my team than Crabtree.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
How many passes did wr’s catch against the Texans???
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More than the Rams first half and the Chargers game combined.
And that does not get to include the 17 yard completion that Murphy shat the bed on.
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And that got us a win…..
October 12th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
DHB is a valuable decoy.
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and an expensive one at that…Hope we get our moneys worth…at this point unlikely….He is what he is…
October 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Right out of the tj blogging for dummies handbook.
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Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
DHB is a valuable decoy.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I’m not saying DHB is better than Crabtree, because he isn’t. I’m saying I would rather have Heyward-Bey on my team than Crabtree.
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Ok Bruh i will bite, I never liked crabs from the day he was drafted…He didnt want to wear the silver and Black so F@K him and his horse….
However to say he cant ball is crazy talk, he won every award know to man kind as the best WR that year
October 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Popcicledrip Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
who does everybody think has there best game this sunday for raiders and who has there worst game
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Best game: Darrius Heyward-Bey–8 catches 150 yrds 2 TDs
Worst game: Zach Miller–1 catch 9 yrds
October 12th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
You can mock me all you want, but I was the one right about Campbell coming in to win the game last week. I deserve some respect.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
You can mock me all you want, but I was the one right about Campbell coming in to win the game last week. I deserve some respect.
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LOL, what a sad and lonely life you must live.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
By the way, Campbell has a higher QB rating than Gradkowski 76 to 71. He also has 61 yrds rushing.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Campbell, Dmac, Seymore, area 21. Thes guys are quiet leaders, that lead by example. That is good in alot of ways.
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Now I know you have some sort of vendetta. Or you’re an attention wh*re.
What example has Campbell set? He was whining and complaining. That’s not a good example.
How you can mention leadership and not put Gradkowski on there suggests that you at one time put money on Toledo and lost big or Grad banged your girl or something.
Or you’re Campbell’s agent.
The coaches had enough faith in Campbell to give him 1.5 games before they benched him. I doubt very much the coaching staff ever wanted him in the first place.
Their continuing faith in his leadership is that he leads from the bench when Grad gets healthy again.
Where was Campbell’s leadership when he didn’t have the starting job? He was nowhere to be found. Who was holding the clipboard and following the game, discussing adjustments?
Campbell?
Try again.
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Bra, are you still stuck on the qb thing? Your like rain man, are you OCD?
Campbell came in off the bench to beat a team that has eaten our lunch for the last few years, returning as division champs. That was a big game, and he was one of the main reasons we won. This after being traded banched, and booed at the coliseum. When you get knocked down, and get up and kick a$$…. That is leadership!
Why didnt I mention grads? Did you read my post? I was talking about the quiet vets vs. the young vocal players we have on the team. Grads maybe your hero, but he doesnt fit into either of those categories.
I know you hate my team, but next time move old man AL’s nutsack off of your forehead so you can read my post, and have a coherent response.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Saddest stat of the day: Raiders only have 2 INTs this year for -4 yrds returning.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Neither QB is the future of this team. Get over yourselves.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Campbell is our future, get over it Morilla.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Campbell is our future, get over it Morilla.
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Funniest thing I have heard all week.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
You can mock me all you want, but I was the one right about Campbell coming in to win the game last week. I deserve some respect.
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I predicted Campbell would be benched halftime of week 2, in July.
You got props for things like this for about 48 hours, and than it is on to the next one.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
hey ward bey should come into his own in soon but for now crabtree is better but I have a felling DHB will and should end up with a decent year I say around 51 catches 506 yards 4 touchdowns
October 12th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Campbell deserves props. There should be a bronze statue of him outside the stadium for beating the Chargers.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I was talking about the quiet vets vs. the young vocal players we have on the team. Grads maybe your hero, but he doesnt fit into either of those categories.
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I believe Hue Jackson referred to Bruce as “young man”.
Jason is 13 months older than Bruce.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
What makes you think he will turn around and become a top tier QB in this league? It’s not going to happen. What makes you think he will turn around on the Raiders? Because he didn’t do anything worthwhile at Washington. Absolutely nothing, that town couldn’t wait to get rid of him. He was and STILL is mediocre QB.
We are all just happy it’s not Jawalrus out there.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Both QB have their flaws.
Which is why we need the defense to lead this team week in and week out.
Love the change at DE and OLB moving Scott off the LOS and getting Groves off the LB core.
No way in heck the S can keep making the same mistakes all year. Week 6 is when it all comes together for the back end of our defense and we SMASH the 9rs!
October 12th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
I am rooting for the kid, because he seems like a good dude, but gun to my head I set the over/under for DHB will be 6 touchdowns……FOR HIS CAREER.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 10:48 am
This team is awful in zone coverage, has been for years. I couldnt tell if i saw derrik gibson, or anthony dorsett playing safety. Also our lbs struggle in the zone.
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We struggle in the zone because we NEVER play or practice the zone. Difficult to react to the unknown.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Southwick is for real! I seen the guy knocking water bottles off the top of cones from 50 yards away!
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LMAO!
October 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Campbell will never be top tier, but the Raiders will never have a top tier QB as long as Davis is still running the team. Campbell is the second best QB this team has had since Jeff Hostlettler. Get over it!
October 12th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
I just don’t like the constant 15 yd plus patterns the have DHB running.
Where are the quick passes off the LOS? Slants, curls, digs, etc?
Why is everything down the field with this kid instead of letting him run after the catch from time to time?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
It’s a great week to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
Crabtree vs DHB?? Way too early to say either guy will be great, or even good, long-term. DHB continues to improve, and has the look of a dominant, big, WR. Saying he’s a bust is nonsense at this point. At the same time, claiming that Crabtree is better than DHB is BS.
They’re both young WR’s…Crabtree might be ahead in the instincts department, but DHB’s a great student and an even better athlete — he coaches-up well. They are used for different purposes in their respective Offenses…and this year (not last) if they were both targeted the same amount of plays, I’d say each guy would end up within +/- 10% of the other guy’s receptions. Keep targeting Louis Murphy, and HIS stats will dominate Crabtree’s.
Not saying Crabtree’s a bad WR…he MIGHT end up being great. But, he’s not yet. Hakeem Nicks is a great example of a young WR coming of age. DHB’s improvement has been steady, and noticeable…and I say he could break-out like Nicks has before the end of the year. As long as they throw him the ball, that is.
Lots of improvement, and lots of reasons to look for great things from DHB.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Campbell is the second best QB this team has had since Jeff Hostlettler. Get over it!
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Wow, what’s in the water where you live? Are you on meds?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I was talking about the quiet vets vs. the young vocal players we have on the team. Grads maybe your hero, but he doesnt fit into either of those categories.
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I believe Hue Jackson referred to Bruce as “young man”.
Jason is 13 months older than Bruce.
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Guys are you serious?
Old quiet vets: Campbell, seymore, asomoguha Dmac. Grad is a 5-6 year pro, he is not quiet.
young players: romac, houston, mm34, all less than two years in. Grads does not fit here either.
Why are you guys still bringing up the skabkowski thing?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
cambell is our future grads I like but what’s his deal he can play good football agaist a good cardinals secondry but plays like decent against a terrible secondary he should destroy in houston I mean come on
October 12th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
We struggle in the zone because we NEVER play or practice the zone.
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How can you say that?
We play A LOT of zone on Sundays. Can’t imagine us playing zone on Sunday and not practicing it during the week.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
We beat the Chargers
Good times.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
If Marshall decides to mix up the blitz packages more and blitz more often to put consistent pressure on the on Smith, than that will help the DB’s to get some INT’s and more fumbles potentially.
Come on Marshall…blitz more on 1st and 2nd down and not every other 3rd down in a series.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
morilla Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
What makes you think he will turn around and become a top tier QB in this league? It’s not going to happen. What makes you think he will turn around on the Raiders? Because he didn’t do anything worthwhile at Washington. Absolutely nothing, that town couldn’t wait to get rid of him. He was and STILL is mediocre QB.
We are all just happy it’s not Jawalrus out there.
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I have a few friends in the D.C. area and they liked JC and basically said the team wouldnt crumble around him and that Portis was as fragile as a porcelain doll. Their line was terrible year after year, and his only weapons were Cooley and Moss.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
The debate of DHB vs. Crabtree is pointless. The o-line and overall team mechanics are much different.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Cooley talked smack against him.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
The more respect our running game gets as the season progresses, the better the results will be from DHB. He will start getting some deep balls his way soon.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Really J Hill? We play A LOT of zone? Hmm, guess the whole man to man thing is actually a zone right? Or are we playing a hybrid zone man to man scheme? Or is the man to man we play actually a zone that each man has to man his man in the zone? Or is the whole zone and man thing just an imagination and we are actually watching 2-3 zone with Shaq underneath?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I really don’t care who is out there as long as they win. I also feel that what we have is not the long term answer.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
DHB was targeted 11 times in the Az game and caught 2 passes.
Gardowski found him one time against Houston for all of 2 yds.
I don’t think you can blame his lack of production of Campbell.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Top 10 Raider QBs of all time:
1) Ken Stabler
Vince Evans
2) Jim Plunkett
3) Rich Gannon
4) Daryl Lamonica
5) George Blanda
6) Jay Schroeder
7) Jason Campbell
9) Tom Flores
10)Bruce Gradkowski
October 12th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I have a felling that mclain will out play willis
October 12th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
popcicledrip Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I have a felling that mclain will out play willis
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That feeling is just the opiats you swallowed several minutes ago. You aren’t thinking right, try not to comment anymore until you sober up.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
jesus christ 10 bruce hahhaahahaahha I hope no other teams see that
October 12th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Really J Hill? We play A LOT of zone?
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I’m not sure what you are looking at, but when WRs are running wide open for TDs, and the DBs start looking around at each other like WTF happened, you tell me.
Are you really suggesting that we exclusively play man to man?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
DHB was targeted 11 times in the Az game and caught 2 passes.
Gardowski found him one time against Houston for all of 2 yds.
I don’t think you can blame his lack of production of Campbell.
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Our best pass catcher on this team is Zach Miller, second best is Glass schilens, and third may very well be Mcfadden or Reece.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
my bad, I left out Hostettler.
Top 10 Raider QBs of all time:
1) Ken Stabler
Jason Campbell
2) Jim Plunkett
3) Rich Gannon
4) Daryl Lamonica
5) George Blanda
6) Jeff Hostettleter
7) Jay Schroeder
9) Vince Evans
10) Tom Flores
Honorable Mention: Bruce Gradkowski
October 12th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
kerry collins was way better than bruce or cambell so far cambell should start this season
October 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
October 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Top 10 Raider QBs of all time:
1) Ken Stabler
2) Jim Plunkett
3) Rich Gannon
4) Daryl Lamonica
5) George Blanda
6) Jay Schroeder
7) Jason Campbell
Vince Evans
9) Tom Flores
10)Bruce Gradkowski
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Hostetler???
October 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
St Jimmy,
Who is McCkain covering when he just drops back 10 yds and sits in the middle of the field?
How did McClain, Routt, and Branch all end up on Gates with Floyd running free in the end zone?
Botched man to man coverage?
October 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Also, Campbell isn’t that great. Forget the opinions. Couldn’t get players lined up right, couldn’t hit open WRs. Pretty simple.
October 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
my bad u got him lol
October 12th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
but when WRs are running wide open for TDs, and the DBs start looking around at each other like WTF happened, you tell me.
Are you really suggesting that we exclusively play man to man?
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Dude, wtf, that is exactly my point.
“but when WRs are running wide open for TDs, and the DBs start looking around at each other like WTF happened, you tell me”.
That is my point, put us in a zone and we are lost, can’t play, and like you said “look at each other like WTF”.
We obviously don’t play it and \ or practice it enough. We play and have ALWAYS played primarily a man system, zone is just an attempt to mix things up a bit.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
St Jimmy,
Who is McCkain covering when he just drops back 10 yds and sits in the middle of the field?
How did McClain, Routt, and Branch all end up on Gates with Floyd running free in the end zone?
Botched man to man coverage?
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That was on Branch
October 12th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
On the bright side, we now have two of the best 11 Raider QBs on the team right now.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Our best pass catcher on this team is Zach Miller, second best is Glass schilens, and third may very well be Mcfadden or Reece.
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Agreed, and Miller should be the #1 read all the time. I think Murphy or JLH should be the next look. And the RB or 2nd TE releasing late should be read #3.
Couple of qst down throws to DHB would be ok or something like a 2nd and short. Something we can recover from if/when he drops the ball.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I NEVER said we ONLY play man to man, what I said is we SUCK at zone, have for quite some time now, even with various coordinators.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I’d like to see Mcfadden used as a WR more, with Bush in the backfield.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Where has Dakota been?
October 12th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
JCampbell would be the starter now (and still) if he would JUST LET THE BALL GO. It’s not that he doesn’t want to throw the ball to the WR’s…he just isn’t trusting his arm and the timing of the WR’s/pass routes to let it rip.
But…people claiming JCampbell doesn’t have the instincts or brains to play NFL QB are way off base (and obviously know NOTHING about coaching or playing football). He’s got excellent instincts, plenty of football smarts, and all the athletic tools. His “problems” with the Offense are easily fixed (as evidenced vs San Diego).
If JCampbell fired-up his team the way Grads does, he would’ve never been benched. But, a tentative QB (and he’s been plenty tentative) doesn’t exactly instill fire-breathing confidence…even if all your teammates and coaches love you.
A good old-fashioned QB battle…hopefully one of these guys takes the helm and never lets it go. If that happens, we’re all going to be happy. Well, real fans will be, anyway…
October 12th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
We’ve never built a true zone defense, St. Jimmy. We’ve put man personnel in zone, and Al Davis loves to use the results as evidence that zone defense doesn’t work. I’ll bet you that if Kiffin were still here and he’d brought in Monte to run the defense, we would be shutting teams down with the Tampa 2.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Campbell and Schroeder over Flores-you have totally lost your mind.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
We’ve never built a true zone defense, St. Jimmy. We’ve put man personnel in zone, and Al Davis loves to use the results as evidence that zone defense doesn’t work. I’ll bet you that if Kiffin were still here and he’d brought in Monte to run the defense, we would be shutting teams down with the Tampa 2.
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If I wanted your opinion I would have farted.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Comment 141-Hayes-exellent post.You sum it up perfectly.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I NEVER said we ONLY play man to man, what I said is we SUCK at zone, have for quite some time now, even with various coordinators.
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Jimmy,
This is your post man …
“We struggle in the zone because we NEVER play or practice the zone.”
If you now want to change that to something different, fine by me.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Can’t blame all the ’skins issues on Jason Campbell, but your talking about a playoff team in 2005 (Campbell sat the bench as a rookie) 2007 (Went 5-0 with Todd Collins after 5-6 with Campbell) and looks like a playoff team this year in 2010.
Kind of a spotty resume in D.C. Was in DC and picked the brains of some skins fans before the season starts, and got more complimentry quotes from ‘Skins fans on Rock Cartwright than Jason Campbell.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Campbell did a good job Sunday. I think he earned the backup QB job for a long time with that performance. It’s good to know that when Gradkowski gets hurt, we have a solid backup to come in and keep the game alive.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Did someone say we should look at JLH. HA!!!!!!!. He hasn’t been the same for a while. One of the best pass catchers WR have is Nick Miller. Give him a chance, see what he did as PR?
October 12th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Tom Cable is responsible for 90% of the posts on this article. He was the knucklehead who first said DHB was better than Crabtree.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Interesting note from Jerry’s chat….
The last three Raider wins included 2nd half switchs at the QB position (Last year in Denver as the 3rd)
October 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I NEVER said we ONLY play man to man, what I said is we SUCK at zone, have for quite some time now, even with various coordinators.
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Jimmy,
This is your post man …
“We struggle in the zone because we NEVER play or practice the zone.”
If you now want to change that to something different, fine by me.
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Thanks MR, you got me, congratulations. You now going to post everything I said to prove me wrong. Taken out of context bro. Whatever…
October 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
St. Jimmy, it’s just glaringly obvious that you don’t know the difference between building a zone defense and using zone defense as a scheme with man personnel. Somebody has to teach you. No offense.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
mcfadden is a running back let’s keep it that way him and bush share carries eat up the yardage so cambell can every once in awhil big PA to heywardbay BOOM
October 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
I’m just wondering how Al’s going to screw things up, now. I’m guessing he puts Marshall in his corner for speaking like a man Sunday and dialing up blitzes. Al will tolerate forward behavior out of his offensive coaches but not defense. I’m guessing we don’t blitz once against SF, and Smith has all day in the pocket to redeem himself for last week.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Thanks MR, you got me, congratulations. You now going to post everything I said to prove me wrong. Taken out of context bro. Whatever…
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Cmon man, are you serious?
Taken out of context?
MR?????
LOL!
October 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
St. Jimmy needs to power down his computer, lay down for about a half hour, then log back on and give it another try. He’s just off to a bad start today, that’s all. I know he’s better than this.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Why doesn’t Jerry ever answer any of my questions?
October 12th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
LOL MR is too funny……I highly doubt Grad will even finish a game right now. JC will get his chance this week again and beyond if Al says so….you know that.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
we need beat alex smith up hit him hard all game and hope gore get lose but I can alredy see him running huff over for a touchdown
October 12th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I’m happy as of now…..we got a real shot at getting on a win streak and getting everyone healthy going into November. They will have to fight every sunday like they did this past sunday
October 12th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
MR reminds me of having brand new sneakers and going outside in 85 degree+ temperature and stepping on that light blue bubble gum.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Look guys Campbell is a great back-up. His hesitancy will cause him to forever underthrow and prohibit WRs from running into the ball. His ability to scramble makes him great as a back-up.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
I’m just wondering how Al’s going to screw things up, now. I’m guessing he puts Marshall in his corner for speaking like a man Sunday and dialing up blitzes. Al will tolerate forward behavior out of his offensive coaches but not defense. I’m guessing we don’t blitz once against SF, and Smith has all day in the pocket to redeem himself for last week.
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The Niners rookie O-Linemen, Davis and Iupati struggle in pass protection and especially when blitzed.
The Raiders need to attack them on defense and confuse them and get them frustrated.
Stop Gore also and don’t let Davis run the deep seam route.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I still can’t belive we lost to cards we would be 3-2 how much better would you fell going in 3-2 playing a 0-5 49ers team just sayin
October 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Anyone who put Jay Shroeder as the 6th best QB of all time with the Raiders is a certified bonafied moron. Sorry to be harsh. Were you even alive when Jay Schroeder was playing for us?
Also, what exactly did JC fix vs SD? Half of his completions were dumpoffs and 2 completions to our WR’s. We saw the exact same JC that we saw in the preseason and the first 6 qtrs of reg season. You JC fans remind me of Jawalrus fans. Getting all excited for JC finally completing 1 long pass after 9 qtrs. It’s like giving Jawalrus all the credit last year for the win vs the Eagles and KC.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
DKnight, I don’t think we’re going to be too aggressive on defense. Al’s going to put Marshall in his corner for speaking like a man Sunday and trying to run Al’s defense his way. We’re going to play base man, all day. Al’s team.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Can’t blame all the ’skins issues on Jason Campbell, but your talking about a playoff team in 2005 (Campbell sat the bench as a rookie) 2007 (Went 5-0 with Todd Collins after 5-6 with Campbell) and looks like a playoff team this year in 2010.
Kind of a spotty resume in D.C. Was in DC and picked the brains of some skins fans before the season starts, and got more complimentry quotes from ‘Skins fans on Rock Cartwright than Jason Campbell.
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Impossible..Collins played in only 4 games and started only the last 3.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Brien, Campbell did a good job Sunday. I think he secured his job as a backup. He knew that if he failed Sunday, he’d never get another shot to come in and back Gradkwowski up. He came though. He deserves to be Gradkowski’s backup for a long time. Good job, Jason.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
As usual, more stinky stuff coming from one of the most prolific spreaders of manure in here:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
We’ve never built a true zone defense, St. Jimmy. We’ve put man personnel in zone, and Al Davis loves to use the results as evidence that zone defense doesn’t work. I’ll bet you that if Kiffin were still here and he’d brought in Monte to run the defense, we would be shutting teams down with the Tampa 2.
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This team, as most NFL teams do, has all the athleticism and talent to play any Defensive scheme given them. We may have some players MORE suited to certain styles of Defense as a whole…but we play PLENTY of zone, and other hybrid types of zone/man coverages. (Not that the D has been doing too well with either.)
Speaking of that Monte Kiff zone D…how’s that been working out down @ USC? Oh yeah…USC leads the PAC-10/16 now. Ohhhh, wait…they DON’T? Must be Al’s fault.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Washington was 6-7 with JC in 2007 then Collins won the last 3 then got exposed in the playoffs
October 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Anyone who put Jay Shroeder as the 6th best QB of all time with the Raiders is a certified bonafied moron. Sorry to be harsh. Were you even alive when Jay Schroeder was playing for us?
Also, what exactly did JC fix vs SD? Half of his completions were dumpoffs and 2 completions to our WR’s. We saw the exact same JC that we saw in the preseason and the first 6 qtrs of reg season. You JC fans remind me of Jawalrus fans. Getting all excited for JC finally completing 1 long pass after 9 qtrs. It’s like giving Jawalrus all the credit last year for the win vs the Eagles and KC.
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You sound foolish…he led this team on a 97 yard drive. he overcame the type of misakes and bad calls and penalties that would have buried this team in the past. His calm demeanor and cool under the pressure was a calming forced and actually worked to his advantage. The moment wasnt too big for him, and on the goal line when he had to mak3e a play he did
October 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
MR reminds me of having brand new sneakers and going outside in 85 degree+ temperature and stepping on that light blue bubble gum.
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Actually, it’s the Raiders who make you feel that way. They’re the ones who get your hopes up then spoil them. You just blame fans for talking about it more than you blame Al Davis. That’s part of the victim syndrome, like when a battered spouse blames others for her man beating her.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
This team, as most NFL teams do, has all the athleticism and talent to play any Defensive scheme given them.
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I see comedy hour has begun…
October 12th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
This is pretty hot for 1948:
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October 12th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
LOL MR you really believe Al is gonna let Grad be a long term QB? Be serious. JC playing sunday whether you like it or not and we are going to win
October 12th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
MR is your birthday in April? Most of the negative thinking people I know were born in April for some reason.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
LOL MR you really believe Al is gonna let Grad be a long term QB?
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As long as this coaching staff is here he’s going to be. I think they’re going against Al’s wishes already, aren’t they?
October 12th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Anyone who put Jay Shroeder as the 6th best QB of all time with the Raiders is a certified bonafied moron. Sorry to be harsh. Were you even alive when Jay Schroeder was playing for us?
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Aig, can you tell me who was better than Schroeder. I never like him, but he did get the team to the AFC championship game.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
DKnight, I don’t think we’re going to be too aggressive on defense. Al’s going to put Marshall in his corner for speaking like a man Sunday and trying to run Al’s defense his way. We’re going to play base man, all day. Al’s team.
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Yeah, I know…if I was Marshall I would say FU old man and do whatever I think is best for the defense and for the TEAM to WIN!
Screw the old looney man Al….if Marshall does what he thinks is gonna win games and the old man fires him, then oh well. Marshall is already set for life and his grandkids are set also.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
AIG……..whether you like it or not JC will be your QB this season.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Campbell and Schroeder over Flores-you have totally lost your mind.
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Flores is none for his coaching, not his QB play. Flores only had one good year as a QB.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
504, again, you are the classic case of abuse syndrome. You protect the abuser. You blame the observer. Al Davis is the source of your misery, and you know it. But you don’t WANT to believe it. You want to believe outside forces are trying to bring down the Raiders, just like a battered woman wants to believe that other things or people are making her abusive husband act this way. She doesn’t want to blame him, even though her face is battered, with welts all over her. She loves him too much. That’s exactly how your relationship with Al Davis is. You, the other fans who are faithful to him, and his employees…except for the few that stand up to him.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
No Severe,
You guys sound like a bunch of homers. Seriously, I have already debunked the myth on that Miller TD. I showed you the video and you can literally count up to 5 seconds that it took JC to let the ball go. Miller was open the moment he left the line of scrimage.
So JC finally led us to 2 TD drives. OMFG. Close the shop. It’s xmas. The guy was spotted with a 12-7 lead when he came in and it was down to 1 point lead when the D showed up. Give me a fcking break. Grad threw 3 come from behind td’s in 1 qtr on the road in Pitt and you guys act like it’s no big deal.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
LOL MR you really believe Al is gonna let Grad be a long term QB?
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As long as this coaching staff is here he’s going to be. I think they’re going against Al’s wishes already, aren’t they?
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Grad isnt even 80pct right now. What the hell will the staff do if the Raiders are 4-3 heading home for Halloween? Bench JC? No way will Al let that pass
October 12th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Ray,not to those of us who began following the team from the beginning.Flores was way better than either of those guys.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
What the hell will the staff do if the Raiders are 4-3 heading home for Halloween?
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That’s only going to happen if Gradkowski starts, anyway.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
No Severe,
You guys sound like a bunch of homers. Seriously, I have already debunked the myth on that Miller TD. I showed you the video and you can literally count up to 5 seconds that it took JC to let the ball go. Miller was open the moment he left the line of scrimage.
So JC finally led us to 2 TD drives. OMFG. Close the shop. It’s xmas. The guy was spotted with a 12-7 lead when he came in and it was down to 1 point lead when the D showed up. Give me a fcking break. Grad threw 3 come from behind td’s in 1 qtr on the road in Pitt and you guys act like it’s no big deal.
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Man sorry but sunday possibly was a franchise changing win. Grad didnt lead us to a ground shaking win in Pitt. It was a great quarter and all but our season was over. JC led drives to beat a team we havent defeated since the Iraq was in its first year. That is a long damn time.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
The whole Campbell v. Grads is a non-issue. Cable said Grads is tr starter and he doesn’t like to change positions. All that is left is a couple of bloggers with nothing more to say.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Lefty, you must be pretty old.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
The whole Campbell v. Grads is a non-issue. Cable said Grads is tr starter and he doesn’t like to change positions. All that is left is a couple of bloggers with nothing more to say.
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Cable doesn’t make the decisions. Al does, then Hue Jackson.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
What the hell will the staff do if the Raiders are 4-3 heading home for Halloween?
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That’s only going to happen if Gradkowski starts, anyway.
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Oh so we are gonna lose if JC starts? I get ya angle
October 12th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
504, again, you are the classic case of abuse syndrome. You protect the abuser. You blame the observer. Al Davis is the source of your misery, and you know it. But you don’t WANT to believe it. You want to believe outside forces are trying to bring down the Raiders, just like a battered woman wants to believe that other things or people are making her abusive husband act this way. She doesn’t want to blame him, even though her face is battered, with welts all over her. She loves him too much. That’s exactly how your relationship with Al Davis is. You, the other fans who are faithful to him, and his employees…except for the few that stand up to him.
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This info is pretty good but useless today. I could’ve used it in a paper during undergrad about 10 years ago.
You must be a Univ of Phoenix professor, cus you spend way too much time in here to actually show up on some school’s campus.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
In other news. Raiders are one win away from 500. 500
500!!!!
Gotta pass 500 to get to the playoffs. It’s still possible.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Oh so we are gonna lose if JC starts?
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Well, yes.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
504, stand up to Al. Be a man. It’s liberating.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Bauce,
I have already told you. JC did not lose or win the game. He did ok. He did as I saw him all year. Nothing for me to get excited about. People forget that if it wasnt for Loper rolling 3 yds, one of those 2 scoring drives would never happen. People forgot that it came down to the D making a play to stop Rivers. JC didnt win the fckng game. Did he throw the TD pass to win the game? no. Did he put the team in position to kick the winning fg? no. Rivers put his team in the position to win the game and our D stepped up for once to save the game.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Marshall’s going to pay for it but do you realize how much of a man he must feel like right now? He finally stood up to Al. It’s gotta feel good. There will be consequences, but who cares. That’s what men do. They defend themselves, consequences be damned. You should try it sometime. If you can ever bring yourself to accept that Al Davis is the source of your misery. That’s step one.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Washington was 6-7 with JC in 2007 then Collins won the last 3 then got exposed in the playoffs
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Campbell led them to a 4 game losing streak before Collins led them on a 4 game winning streak.
Just talk to a Redskin fan, homie.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Coach Southwick will prepare EITHER QB to beat the whiners.
At least we don’t have to worry about a Mirer/Tui/Hobert type coming off the bench. We can win with either.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Rivers put his team in the position to win the game and our D stepped up for once to save the game.
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Yeah. Thank Gawd they didn’t go prevent there.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
The whole Campbell v. Grads is a non-issue. Cable said Grads is tr starter and he doesn’t like to change positions. All that is left is a couple of bloggers with nothing more to say.
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Cable doesn’t make the decisions. Al does, then Hue Jackson.
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It’s funny you say that cuz Hue pulled Jason. How could Al pull Jason midgame? The logic in this statement is lacking. Campbell got pulled during a live game that Al had no input in. Your statement is false.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
What is this about Marshall standing up to the old man?
Did he say something to him or the media or by blitzing at the end of the game, was that meant as standing up to Al?
October 12th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
aig-raiders Says:
So JC finally led us to 2 TD drives. OMFG. Close the shop. It’s xmas. The guy was spotted with a 12-7 lead when he came in and it was down to 1 point lead when the D showed up. Give me a fcking break. Grad threw 3 come from behind td’s in 1 qtr on the road in Pitt and you guys act like it’s no big deal.
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Haven’t been able to understand the hatred for JCampbell, AIG. The guy GOT IT DONE…and results are the only things that matter. If JCampbell just got it done most of the time, I wouldn’t care how it looked.
Grad’s accomplishments against the Steelers?? When you say guys “act like it’s no big deal,” — are you talking about the same guy that people started calling “Bruce Almighty?” Yeah…there’s a lack of respect there.
Grad’s has played well…for the most part. JCampbell shows he can, too. Neither guy has shown he’s on the way to Canton just yet…but, I feel pretty good about our QB’s right now. Better than I have in 7 years.
Go RAIDERS…and whomever is under Center on game day.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
October 12th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
But if he starts, I’m rooting for him.
Problem here is, one of these guys needs to win several games in a row without being benched or injured so that there is no controversey.
We already have a rotation at LT, we don’t need one at QB as well.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Neither Grads or Campbell are the type to foster a controversy. Both know they are on one year tryouts and will get a fair chance to seize the reins of the offense.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Bauce,
I have already told you. JC did not lose or win the game. He did ok. He did as I saw him all year. Nothing for me to get excited about. People forget that if it wasnt for Loper rolling 3 yds, one of those 2 scoring drives would never happen. People forgot that it came down to the D making a play to stop Rivers. JC didnt win the fckng game. Did he throw the TD pass to win the game? no. Did he put the team in position to kick the winning fg? no. Rivers put his team in the position to win the game and our D stepped up for once to save the game.
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Did Campbell fail on the go ahead drive? Did he complete first downs? It’s funny Grads comes in and plays very average and the team wins vs STL. Grad fans going nuts and all….cool. I gave GRad his props as you saw but when JC does the same thing with NO TURNOVERS with BETTER STATS you JC/Al haters cant do the same. How did Gradkowski win the STL game and JC not this?
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Did he say something to him or the media or by blitzing at the end of the game, was that meant as standing up to Al?
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The latter, yes. You don’t understand? How long have you been a Raider fan? 2 weeks? Did you jump on board when Moss got signed, or something? One of those guys? Anyhow, so you’ll know in the future: Al Davis DOES NOT believe in blitzing. So when a defensive coordinator calls blitzes, it is an affront to Al.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Bauce,
let me remind you of the Raiders win in 1997 with Nap Kaufman running over 200 yds against Shanarat. You were there. We didnt solve one frickin thing. Did we dominate SD last Sunday? FCKNO!!!
They had their will with us. We finally got some breaks. That is it. We got holes every where. Let’s examine the 3 areas of our team.
Spec Team – Fixed some stuff but do you really feel confident with Jacoby Ford fumbling back there? Do you really want to depend on Shanski to make a winning fg?
Def – How was that pass D on Sunday? We just may Floyd a bunch of money and lost a bunch of money for V Jackson. That is the worst communicating backfield in the league.
Offense – JC took over at the 9:44 mark of the 2nd qtr. Had a 12-7 lead. He produced 17 points. Do you really want to get excited over 17 points. Heck, Grad took us to 20 points last year vs Cinci, and would any of you JC supporters give him any credits for that one vs JC’s 17 points? Heck no.
So please spare me this franchise changing win. When we dominate an opponent then I will be secure. When we get breaks to end a streak, I am just happy for that Sunday moment.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
KK, when the Chargers moved past midfield I thought the game was over. I was like “Hear we go again!” I couldn’t believe the outcome.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Neither Grads or Campbell are the type to foster a controversy. Both know they are on one year tryouts and will get a fair chance to seize the reins of the offense.
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True where Campbell is concerned. Way off where Gradkowski is concerned. Try watching football.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Ray-to many of you I’m probably ancient,but Flores is 5th in the all time AFL passing and the old AFL was a wide open,passing league.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Great Day to be a Chilean miner today, isn’t it?.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
LAtoBay yeah I knew it was something to the degree collins led a streak and the end of the year but they got blasted by Seattle in first round.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
KK, when the Chargers moved past midfield I thought the game was over. I was like “Hear we go again!” I couldn’t believe the outcome.
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Yep, same here.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
No Severe,
You guys sound like a bunch of homers. Seriously, I have already debunked the myth on that Miller TD. I showed you the video and you can literally count up to 5 seconds that it took JC to let the ball go. Miller was open the moment he left the line of scrimage.
So JC finally led us to 2 TD drives. OMFG. Close the shop. It’s xmas. The guy was spotted with a 12-7 lead when he came in and it was down to 1 point lead when the D showed up. Give me a fcking break. Grad threw 3 come from behind td’s in 1 qtr on the road in Pitt and you guys act like it’s no big deal.
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You apparently dont know football, a guy is not open if a passing lane is not available. They wereat the one and there was a defender sitting on that route. They had the end zone packed with DB’s and LB’s and Jason made that play. he got out of the pocket, pump faked to freeze the defernder and delivered a pass that only his target could catch
October 12th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
ONCE AGAIN. JC PLAYED AVERAGE AT BEST. THE DEFENSE AND SPECIAL TEAMS WON THE GAME HANDS DOWN.
ON THE LAST DRIVE WE NEEDED A TD, NOT A FG. WE COULD HAVE EASILY LOST THAT GAME IF NOT FOR THE FUMBLE.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Bauce,
Let me remind you again. Grad has a track record with us since last year, this preseason, and this year. What’s JC’s track record with us?
The only times I have seen us move the ball fluidly is when we answered the opposing team’s first score so far this year. And JC was not the QB.
October 12th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Bauce,
let me remind you of the Raiders win in 1997 with Nap Kaufman running over 200 yds against Shanarat. You were there. We didnt solve one frickin thing. Did we dominate SD last Sunday? FCKNO!!!
They had their will with us. We finally got some breaks. That is it. We got holes every where. Let’s examine the 3 areas of our team.
Spec Team – Fixed some stuff but do you really feel confident with Jacoby Ford fumbling back there? Do you really want to depend on Shanski to make a winning fg?
Def – How was that pass D on Sunday? We just may Floyd a bunch of money and lost a bunch of money for V Jackson. That is the worst communicating backfield in the league.
Offense – JC took over at the 9:44 mark of the 2nd qtr. Had a 12-7 lead. He produced 17 points. Do you really want to get excited over 17 points. Heck, Grad took us to 20 points last year vs Cinci, and would any of you JC supporters give him any credits for that one vs JC’s 17 points? Heck no.
So please spare me this franchise changing win. When we dominate an opponent then I will be secure. When we get breaks to end a streak, I am just happy for that Sunday moment.
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LOL AIG thats what you dont get! WE have dominated the games vs SD before and still lost! We were losing in second half and didnt pack it in as usual. We stay blowing it vs that team.
We arent in 1997 buddy so you spare me. Different everything going on then vs now. Chargers didnt own us then.
Funny thing is you act like SD has a weak defense.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Did he say something to him or the media or by blitzing at the end of the game, was that meant as standing up to Al?
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The latter, yes. You don’t understand? How long have you been a Raider fan? 2 weeks? Did you jump on board when Moss got signed, or something? One of those guys? Anyhow, so you’ll know in the future: Al Davis DOES NOT believe in blitzing. So when a defensive coordinator calls blitzes, it is an affront to Al.
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LOL…yeah I jumped on board when Moss came to Oakland. Yeah, you figured it out.
Don’t waste my time with that irrelevent non sense.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
No Severe,
You guys sound like a bunch of homers. Seriously, I have already debunked the myth on that Miller TD. I showed you the video and you can literally count up to 5 seconds that it took JC to let the ball go. Miller was open the moment he left the line of scrimage.
So JC finally led us to 2 TD drives. OMFG. Close the shop. It’s xmas. The guy was spotted with a 12-7 lead when he came in and it was down to 1 point lead when the D showed up. Give me a fcking break. Grad threw 3 come from behind td’s in 1 qtr on the road in Pitt and you guys act like it’s no big deal.
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You apparently dont know football, a guy is not open if a passing lane is not available. They wereat the one and there was a defender sitting on that route. They had the end zone packed with DB’s and LB’s and Jason made that play. he got out of the pocket, pump faked to freeze the defernder and delivered a pass that only his target could catch
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I was at the game sitting in 127 with a clear view of the play. You obviously haven’t seen the play cuz Miller was open for DAYS. Everyone sitting next to me saw it. END OF ARGUEMENT.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Bauce,
Let me remind you again. Grad has a track record with us since last year, this preseason, and this year. What’s JC’s track record with us?
The only times I have seen us move the ball fluidly is when we answered the opposing team’s first score so far this year. And JC was not the QB.
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you cant remind me of shhht when we didnt win those games with Grad. this is 2010 not the 2009 crap fest. Spare me
October 12th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
You apparently dont know football, a guy is not open if a passing lane is not available. They wereat the one and there was a defender sitting on that route. They had the end zone packed with DB’s and LB’s and Jason made that play. he got out of the pocket, pump faked to freeze the defernder and delivered a pass that only his target could catch
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As a guy who has his own business, I hate it when people try to give me theories. Show me the fcking proof.
I got proof for you. nfl.com. Your theories are all myths. There was NOBODY ON MILLER. The video shows it. He was 5 yds behind all the defenders. Puhleeez.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
No Severe,
You guys sound like a bunch of homers. Seriously, I have already debunked the myth on that Miller TD. I showed you the video and you can literally count up to 5 seconds that it took JC to let the ball go. Miller was open the moment he left the line of scrimage.
So JC finally led us to 2 TD drives. OMFG. Close the shop. It’s xmas. The guy was spotted with a 12-7 lead when he came in and it was down to 1 point lead when the D showed up. Give me a fcking break. Grad threw 3 come from behind td’s in 1 qtr on the road in Pitt and you guys act like it’s no big deal.
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You apparently dont know football, a guy is not open if a passing lane is not available. They wereat the one and there was a defender sitting on that route. They had the end zone packed with DB’s and LB’s and Jason made that play. he got out of the pocket, pump faked to freeze the defernder and delivered a pass that only his target could catch
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I was at the game sitting in 127 with a clear view of the play. You obviously haven’t seen the play cuz Miller was open for DAYS. Everyone sitting next to me saw it. END OF ARGUEMENT.
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You were right near me and Bob lol
October 12th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Bauce,
So the D made a play, and you gonna give the credit to JC????
Are you real football fan or a homer?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
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I was at the game sitting in 127 with a clear view of the play. You obviously haven’t seen the play cuz Miller was open for DAYS. Everyone sitting next to me saw it. END OF ARGUEMENT.
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THANK YOU!!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
how has langston walker did this year haven’t got to watch many games
October 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
AIG……team won the game but JC had alot to do with it. How come you Grad nuts were saying he won the STL game? He played worse than JC did in the 2nd half vs 2nd half vs sd
October 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
JC got all the tools. He just does not have the instincts to play the starting QB in the NFL. You get .5 secs to make a decision in this league. That is why guys like JC and Alex Smith continue to tease their franchise to try and make it work with them. They throw beautiful spirals but they can’t pull the trigger. Never have and never will.
This weekend will be a match up of 2 exact qb’s. The Niners get the advantage because they have a better D than us.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
SD scores to go up by 9 and what did JC do from there?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Miller was open but there were defenders between him and the QB,thus the hesitation.Campbell waited for the defenders to overrun the play,which they did and it opened a nice wide open lane.What is being overlooked on that play is it was a terrible pass once it was thrown.Miller made a great catch and did a good job of staying in bounds.The ball should have hit him in the chest not been thrown over his head.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
I think Campbell’s feet are a lot quicker than Smith’s.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Really? Where do you guys tailgate? If you were sitting close to me then i know you saw that play breakdown. Miller was running along the back of the endzone doing wind sprints and jumping jacks. All JC had to do was give him a touch pass and he nearly messed that up.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
AIG and Grad lacks the arm,accuracy and size to be a legit starter lol
October 12th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Really? Where do you guys tailgate? If you were sitting close to me then i know you saw that play breakdown. Miller was running along the back of the endzone doing wind sprints and jumping jacks. All JC had to do was give him a touch pass and he nearly messed that up.
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Usually A lot but not last sunday….yeah JC threw it too hard but still zach got it….that’s all that matters.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Reign…..what row were you in?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
LAtoBay yeah I knew it was something to the degree collins led a streak and the end of the year but they got blasted by Seattle in first round.
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The games he lost before collins took over:
25-33 to the eagles
23-28 to the cowboys
13-19 to the bucs
16-17 to the bills
What the stats dont show is that the death of sean taylor occured right before that buffalo lost and could have very well fueled the team down the stretch of the season
October 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
is grads going to be good for next week
October 12th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Bauce,
I have been on here since Sunday nite to say that Grad sucked it last weekend and should not be out there. You can tell he is not healthy after the hit.
You saw the same Rams game we saw. The offense sucked. Grad came in and moved ball. He got more yds than JC did last weekend and was off by 1 point. He came in when we were down 7-3 not up 12-7. He got the WR’s involved. With JC, I see the same darn thing over and over again, dump it off here dump it off there. We play 9 or 10 vs 11 with JC. At least with Grad, I know we will try to involve the WR’s.
But dont get me wrong. I know Grad is not healthy. I’d rather have JC in there this weekend. I hope they pound the rock and just hash it out with the Niners. JC will get killed if we pass more than we run this weekend.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
SD scores to go up by 9 and what did JC do from there?
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Participate in the best Fumble-ruski play I’ve ever seen. Imagine if Loperamide doesnt get to that ball.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
“Return of the House of Thrills”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/the_silver__the_black
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I love it!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
LAtoBay yeah I knew it was something to the degree collins led a streak and the end of the year but they got blasted by Seattle in first round.
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The games he lost before collins took over:
25-33 to the eagles
23-28 to the cowboys
13-19 to the bucs
16-17 to the bills
What the stats dont show is that the death of sean taylor occured right before that buffalo lost and could have very well fueled the team down the stretch of the season
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Yep…..
October 12th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Row 25. Seat 6.
Helluva game.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Not sure about whether the passing lane was there or not on the Miller TD, but he clearly got bailed out by a great catch by Miller.
Should not have even been a challenge if he didn’t nearly overthrow the 6′6 TE all alone in the back of the end zone.
Anyways, as was my concern with Campbell is he plays up/down to his opponents. Last year, best game against the Saints, than benched at halftime at home against the Chiefs after one miserable half.
This year, played like crap against the Rams, played his best against the Chargers. Tough to figure out this weekend with a good 0-5 team, but I bet he plays well enough the next two weeks to lure us all in, than stinks it up against the Seahawks and that’s when they will go back to Bruce.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Aw we were in front two rows
October 12th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Grads shouldn’t play and I’m not sure he will. If he does it won’t be for long. iknow he’s got the heart but man, he came back in the game and clearly should not have been in there.
His heart over rides his brain.
I think Cable’s hedging his bets and being political and tactical by saying Grads is the man “if healthy”.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
AIG and Grad lacks the arm,accuracy and size to be a legit starter lol
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Why does Grad has more yds per completion than JC?
And Seve,
Please dont make excuses for JC’s losses in Wash on Taylor’s death. You guys come up with the most rediculous excuses I have ever seen for JC.
Has anyone bothered to address the fact that Nick Miller ran the ball back to SD’s 46 yds and JC couldnt move the ball? Where’s Mistic’s “we left poitns on the board”?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I was the black guy in front that kept standing on the seat pumping the crowd up
October 12th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Imagine if Loperamide doesnt get to that ball.
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Would that be on Campbell or the Oline?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
244. Like Jerry said, I think the benching was good for him. Overwhelming to come in and take over like that. Glad Grads was able to give Campbell some space and let him regroup.
Agree with Jerry 100% that neither guy is really “it”.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
The best part of the seating were the two blocked punts. Saw those up close and personal. I couldn’t believe when the second one happened.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
AIG and Grad lacks the arm,accuracy and size to be a legit starter lol
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Why does Grad has more yds per completion than JC?
And Seve,
Please dont make excuses for JC’s losses in Wash on Taylor’s death. You guys come up with the most rediculous excuses I have ever seen for JC.
Has anyone bothered to address the fact that Nick Miller ran the ball back to SD’s 46 yds and JC couldnt move the ball? Where’s Mistic’s “we left poitns on the board”?
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LOL that wont be last long and Grad has had more quarters of play right? Who has more turnovers?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
we should still trade for fat albert kelly did well last week but our d I think should be DE lamar DT seymourDT haynsworth DE matt shonasty OLB thomas howard MLB mclain ROLB wimbley or scott CB area 21 CB routt SS mitchell FS huff
October 12th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Yikes! Anyone elses screen all messed up? Lots of probs on this site lately!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
The games he lost before collins took over:
25-33 to the eagles
23-28 to the cowboys
13-19 to the bucs
16-17 to the bills
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6 TD’s 8 turnovers over those 4 games.
And if you go back two more games, he was 1-5 with 7 TD’s and 13 turnovers.
The guy sucked in Washington, any ‘Skins fans will tell you that. Just seem give you the “He struggled but…….lines”.
He is likable guy, so guys will make excuses for him and root for him.
But make no mistake about it, the ‘Skins were better without him, and don’t seem to have too many issues this year.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Look, Campbell did a good job. Good enough to win. Two long TD drives were badly needed because prior to that we were barely on the field.
The 1st quarter was like 12 min to 3 in favor of SD or some such ridiculous number.
I’m glad we got a good backup. Campbell finished 10/11 down the stretch with a TD.
Really, the offense isn’t the concern for me. Both QBs can move the ball. I’m on record for being in favor of Grad because of the leadership and intangibles.
Call me old school, but we went from having a 1st round #1 overall most entitled QB ever codeine-sippin f&*%$n @$$#ole who didn’t give a damn and was anything but a leader to a scrappy 6th round journeyman mid west guy who plays hard and earns respect.
Guys respond to Grad. Everyone not in this blog seems to understand that (announcers, writers, commentators, former football players, and coaches).
Campbell has that entitlement just as Russell did. And frankly, he seems like a crybaby to me and not a leader. I’m sure somoene will challenge that which is fine.
I’m glad we have 2 guys who can move the ball.
I’m worried about the defense.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Sh8t! Lunch is here! Enjoy the week and the win Nation! Peace owt!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
LOL. Anyone think Boller should be starting?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Has anyone bothered to address the fact that Nick Miller ran the ball back to SD’s 46 yds and JC couldnt move the ball? Where’s Mistic’s “we left poitns on the board”?
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Was there a sack taken, a QB fumble, or an errant pass by Campbell on that drive?
1st down pass to Murphy for 3 yds
2nd down 6 yd run by Bsuh
3rd and 1 Bush takes 1 yd loss
4th and 2 Bush gets 1 yd.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with. JC led two beautiful, time consuming TD drives. Not only did he score but he broke the rythm of the charger O and gave the D a much needed rest
October 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
LAtoBAY…..ceiling is much higher with JC skill base…..but guys do respond to Grad
October 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Wimbley will have a big game against 9ers rokies linemen
October 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Funniest part of the game from a fans perspective was when the raiders were in our redzone and they had to keep telling fans to quiet down.
I will give Campbell credit for the 97 yard drive.
I wont give Cable credit for the timeout with 1:15 to go. We gave away 3 points by stopping the clock too early.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Bauce,
Keep trying bro. You’re grasping for anything now. You’re like priest and Debo trying to find anything positive with Jawalrus. I respect your football knowledge but you’re starting to be a homer on JC. I’m a Grad fan but I will not hesitate to call him out when he is no good.
Nnamdi,
You are 100% correct on Cable and his hedging of Grad starting if healthy. I expect JC to start this weekend. We already saw what happened with JC vs Niners 1st string in the preseason. I expect the same thing again.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with.
If we lose to the Chargers it’s business as usuual but EVERYONE expected us to beat the Rams.
The argument could be looked at the other way entirely.
If JC continues to play as he did v. StL and we lose that game, then the sh*t really hits the fan.
Oh, and Grad got the ball to our WRs in that game and made Heyward-Bey look kinda like something resembling an NFL player.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with. JC led two beautiful, time consuming TD drives. Not only did he score but he broke the rythm of the charger O and gave the D a much needed rest
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Its pointless they have an agenda against JC. Grad gets credit for STL win but not JC for a division rival lol….Hilarious
October 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I’m worried about the defense.
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Couldn’t agree more.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Don’t know if he SHOULD be starting but he deserves a shot as much as anyone.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
For you AIG….two defenders in the immediate area and another trailing. Applewhite almost got a hand on that pass too
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d81b3ad9a/QB-Campbell-to-TE-Miller-1-yd-pass-TD
October 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Bauce,
Keep trying bro. You’re grasping for anything now. You’re like priest and Debo trying to find anything positive with Jawalrus. I respect your football knowledge but you’re starting to be a homer on JC. I’m a Grad fan but I will not hesitate to call him out when he is no good.
Nnamdi,
You are 100% correct on Cable and his hedging of Grad starting if healthy. I expect JC to start this weekend. We already saw what happened with JC vs Niners 1st string in the preseason. I expect the same thing again.
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We win the game against a nemesis for the last decade and I’m grasping?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
LAtoBAY…..ceiling is much higher with JC skill base…..but guys do respond to Grad
I just don’t get the ceiling theory with Campbell. Draft position-height-weight-arm strength are not what you look for in a QB.
Hue wanted a leader of men and he put in the guy who he thought fit that description.
But being that its a blog and its all about opinions and who can prove who wrong etc., let me get outside myself for a minute and just say good job Jason. Good game.
Back up or starter, I just wanna win…. baby.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
I wont give Cable credit for the timeout with 1:15 to go. We gave away 3 points by stopping the clock too early.
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I was screaming about this during the game on this blog, and Jerry also agreed and seemed to think that it was on Hue.
No problem actually callling a timeout to get an important play right. But I believe they called it with 28 seconds on the gameclock. Run that baby down a little than call it.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Grad gets credit for STL win but not JC for a division rival lol….Hilarious
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Agreed.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I’m on the record as saying Bruce shouldn’t even be active this weekend.
Let Campbell see what he can do on a road game. His last one didn’t go so hot, time to possibly redeem himself.
Maybe Bruce, or if Campbell plays well and wins than him, in Denver.
Either way, a split of these next two games would be disappointing, IMO. Not going to be easy, but two very winnable games.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Wow. Still with the JC vs. Grads thing?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Oh, and one last shot before I bounce.
What’s up with the Chris Webber routine, Jason? Damn, homie.
I’m out Nation. Be good.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
LAtoBAY…..ceiling is much higher with JC skill base…..but guys do respond to Grad
I just don’t get the ceiling theory with Campbell. Draft position-height-weight-arm strength are not what you look for in a QB.
Hue wanted a leader of men and he put in the guy who he thought fit that description.
But being that its a blog and its all about opinions and who can prove who wrong etc., let me get outside myself for a minute and just say good job Jason. Good game.
Back up or starter, I just wanna win…. baby.
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You dont get that defense are much more afraid of JC’s skill set than Grads? Ok thats on you but hey its just opinion right?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with.
If we lose to the Chargers it’s business as usuual but EVERYONE expected us to beat the Rams.
The argument could be looked at the other way entirely.
If JC continues to play as he did v. StL and we lose that game, then the sh*t really hits the fan.
Oh, and Grad got the ball to our WRs in that game and made Heyward-Bey look kinda like something resembling an NFL player.
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divisional game is MUCH more important for their playoff ramifications…that is if you still we can get there. This lost would have put us at 1-4, 0-1 in the and 3 games out of .500 is much worse than an 0-2 start and no divisional games lost
October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Nick Miller in one game has shut up all the doubters. Let’s hope he does it again and again and again.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
B,i wouldn’t say anyone has an agenda against JC.It is just a difference of opinion of who people feel is more likely to move the team and put wins on the board.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
but two very winnable games.
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4 very winnable games IMO.
Our defense has to lead the way.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I don’t think any defense is scared of Campbell or Bruce.
Campbell is going to have to complete a deep ball or three this weekend. 49ers strength are their LB’s, so dumpoffs and the running game will be tough to get going unless we can get them on their heels a little.
So far, Campbell is 0 for the season (and preseason) on passes going 25+ yards in the air.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Nike plans to “dramatically” change NFL jerseys
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 12, 2010 2:01 PM ET
On the day that the NFL announced Nike will replace Reebok as the league’s uniform supplier in 2012, a Nike official said changes are coming to NFL jerseys.
Nike Brand President Charlie Denson told Darren Rovell of CNBC that the change would be similar to changes that Nike has made to college football jerseys.
“We plan on changing the NFL jersey dramatically just like we’ve done with the college programs, using new thinking and the greatest technology available,” Denson said. “The NFL program hasn’t had the same type of advancement in recent years.
After years of Reebok leading the way on NFL jerseys, it will be interesting to see what dramatic changes Nike comes up with. I just hope no NFL team follows the hideous example of Oregon in college football.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Our defense has to lead the way.
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By leading the way, I think you mean start getting out of their own way.
Not counting on the D for anything other than a few spurts of good play and hopefully 2 turnovers a game.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with. JC led two beautiful, time consuming TD drives. Not only did he score but he broke the rythm of the charger O and gave the D a much needed rest
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Its pointless they have an agenda against JC. Grad gets credit for STL win but not JC for a division rival lol….Hilarious
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Yah its funny that all these guys on here were on my back even though i supported Grads but just felt we pulled JC too soon. Now these guys are on here bringing up every little mishap in a winning effort, like criticizing when a TD pass was thrown or if the WR’s were involved as they could have been. If “ifs” were fifths we’d all be drunk lol.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Macho……JC haters wont let it go like AIG
October 12th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with. JC led two beautiful, time consuming TD drives. Not only did he score but he broke the rythm of the charger O and gave the D a much needed rest
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My last ever post on JC vs Grad. fck me. You JC guys are such BS specialists.
1. Grad played 2 qtrs against the Rams. Came in when we were 7-3. JC PLAYED 3 QTRS with a 12-7 lead when he came in. So spare me this Bs of JC playing 2 qtrs.
2. Oh Grad should of have more picks. I noticed that Mistic was not man enough to answer JFB’s question about that pick 6 that JC almost threw.
3. Grad left too many points on the board. After Nick Miller returned it to SD’s 46, JC couldnt move the ball at all for a first down. Points left on the board? Anyone dare answer this.
4. JC has a better arm. Fck me. Why the heck does Grad has a better yards per catch than JC.
5. JC threw 1 completion for 58 yards. Oh wow. Look at how professional that is. Spare me. How many of these Grad examples do you want me to bring up?
6. Shanski missed the FG. It’s grad’s fault we lost the game. Murphy dropped a perfect ball. It’s grad’s fault we lost the game. BUT, the D makes a play. It’s JC’s beautiful drives that won the game for us.
STFU already. You’re all a bunch of HOMERS. HAVE A GOOD DAY!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Nick Miller in one game has shut up all the doubters. Let’s hope he does it again and again and again.
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Not me…..dont let him on the offense….he can go return punts…no issue with that…he is this wes welker clone you guys think he is
October 12th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
What do you guys think will be the ratio of Raider fans to Niner fans at Candlestick on Sunday?
Anybody think we will be able to take over Candlestick and turn this into a home game?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
I wont give Cable credit for the timeout with 1:15 to go. We gave away 3 points by stopping the clock too early.
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I was screaming about this during the game on this blog, and Jerry also agreed and seemed to think that it was on Hue.
No problem actually callling a timeout to get an important play right. But I believe they called it with 28 seconds on the gameclock. Run that baby down a little than call it.
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I didn’t mind the timeout either. We needed to make sure the play was right. However, I knew we left too much time on the board. I wish I was at the SF game, but I’m not putting any money into their coffers.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
B,the anti Grad crowd is just as much at fault.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I don’t think any defense is scared of Campbell or Bruce.
Campbell is going to have to complete a deep ball or three this weekend. 49ers strength are their LB’s, so dumpoffs and the running game will be tough to get going unless we can get them on their heels a little.
So far, Campbell is 0 for the season (and preseason) on passes going 25+ yards in the air.
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Quick question and not trying to go tit for tat, but how many has grads completed that long. All his long passes i remember having mainly YAC involved in them. I can’t think of one off top, but maybe you can remember one that i’m overlooking.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
You are 100% correct on Cable and his hedging of Grad starting if healthy. I expect JC to start this weekend. We already saw what happened with JC vs Niners 1st string in the preseason. I expect the same thing again.
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I am curious as to what you expect to happen?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
“jerrymac: He started out the same, looking nervous, unsure of his teammates and surroundings, then settled in and does what he does best _ play it safe, manage the game, avoid turnovers. It’s not flashy, but it was effective vs. SD”
AND
“jerrymac: Wins tell the story of who should be the starting QB. Third-downs a big part of it. but it’s not that easy. Here’s an example. On one third-down play, Campbell threw short of the stake. Zach Miller caught it, broke two tackles and got the first down. A great effort. Was that because of Campbell? Not really. He just made the routine throw. Miller got the first down.”
LOOKS LIKE JERRY IS PART OF THE JC CONSPIRACY…Guess the Campbell lovers are going to a new blog?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I am not sure I understand the hate for either QB. Both are Raiders….
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I’ll tell you this. N Miller looks waaaaaay better than Ford and JLH.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
You are 100% correct on Cable and his hedging of Grad starting if healthy. I expect JC to start this weekend. We already saw what happened with JC vs Niners 1st string in the preseason. I expect the same thing again.
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I am curious as to what you expect to happen?
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a bunch of dumpoffs and struggle. Dont believe me. Look up the playbyplay log on yahoo.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Severe,
Other than the PI call on DHB in AZ, I guess in total as a team we are 0 for the season. I guess Bruce had the Murphy TD in the preseason.
Wasn’t a trashing on Campbell, just referenced that all these checkdowns and the success of the running game will suffer against well coached teams if we can’t stretch the field occasionally
October 12th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
JC played a better half in this game than Grads did in St. louis agaisnt a better team, in a game of greater magnitude, and judging from the boos/bruuuce chants in what was almost as hostile of an enviroment to begin with. JC led two beautiful, time consuming TD drives. Not only did he score but he broke the rythm of the charger O and gave the D a much needed rest
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My last ever post on JC vs Grad. fck me. You JC guys are such BS specialists.
1. Grad played 2 qtrs against the Rams. Came in when we were 7-3. JC PLAYED 3 QTRS with a 12-7 lead when he came in. So spare me this Bs of JC playing 2 qtrs.
2. Oh Grad should of have more picks. I noticed that Mistic was not man enough to answer JFB’s question about that pick 6 that JC almost threw.
3. Grad left too many points on the board. After Nick Miller returned it to SD’s 46, JC couldnt move the ball at all for a first down. Points left on the board? Anyone dare answer this.
4. JC has a better arm. Fck me. Why the heck does Grad has a better yards per catch than JC.
5. JC threw 1 completion for 58 yards. Oh wow. Look at how professional that is. Spare me. How many of these Grad examples do you want me to bring up?
6. Shanski missed the FG. It’s grad’s fault we lost the game. Murphy dropped a perfect ball. It’s grad’s fault we lost the game. BUT, the D makes a play. It’s JC’s beautiful drives that won the game for us.
STFU already. You’re all a bunch of HOMERS. HAVE A GOOD DAY!
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Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
As for the stats with the arm …come on are you really trying to dispute this? You sound like an idiot if you do
How many turnovers does Grad have? 2nd time I’ve asked…..who is ducking other’s questions?
No you are a JC hater and it is coming out in your posts.
Seabass shanks it yes…..but didnt Grad mess up on that drive? Did he said it himself? NEXT
SD better defense tha AZ or Houston…..gonna dispute that as well? How about the 1/7 performance of GRad? Didnt he lose 2 starts?
Sorry son stay in the kiddie pool on this issue.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
whats up RAIDER NATION!!! Been away for a bit… im back now!!!! got that f-in monkey off our back yyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I’ll tell you this. N Miller looks waaaaaay better than Ford and JLH.
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Not as a WR….thats all I’m saying….he can PR thats it
October 12th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Bauce keep on spinning bro. Just know that you used to be respected by me for your football knowledge and now you’re just a homer!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Campbell has the arm to hit some of those big passes,but he has to let it fly.Imagine what will happen on here if Grads can’t go,Campbell gets knocked out of the game and Boller comes in and wins the game with some big plays.This place will go nuts!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
2. Oh Grad should of have more picks. I noticed that Mistic was not man enough to answer JFB’s question about that pick 6 that JC almost threw.
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AIG,
I can’t believe how bad he ducked out on that one.
He could have said, “Hey it was only one not the many Bruce should have had” or something along those lines.
The best he came up with was that it was a bad throw caused by poor protection, but even the “bad throw” admittance was like pulling teeth.
LOL…..oh well.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
You guys just love arguing moot points huh?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Bauce keep on spinning bro. Just know that you used to be respected by me for your football knowledge and now you’re just a homer!
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That will be a white flag by MR Aig………..lol you dont have to respect it or not. I said both can start for me but the JC hate and not giving him credit it ridiculous. No one has anything for comparison of week 2 and week 5 2nd halves. Apples to apples comparison. Both led us to wins but one guy it said to have won the game but other gets a no lol
October 12th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
the running game will suffer against well coached teams if we can’t stretch the field occasionally
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The underneath stuff has been open the past 2 games as the Texans and Chargers weren’t bringing the safeties up.
Going to the 3 WR sets instead of the ridiculous 3OT set will also get us a chance at some of those deep completions.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
30 year raider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
whats up RAIDER NATION!!! Been away for a bit… im back now!!!! got that f-in monkey off our back yyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
……………………………..no the monkey still here if your talking about mistabrown………
October 12th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Jlofty no not at all….im merely pointing out how off our good pal AIG is. I give both guys credit notice that. JC is worse thing ever to AIG and wont get any credit for win lol
October 12th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
I think cambell should be the starter grads is way to small hurt to much not careful with the ball jason cambell he will improve in system that 2 half he looked a lot difrent than the st louis game or the titans game he won’t dig a hole like grads and he’s got a great skill dosent have much to work with right now but still has great running game good TE WR medicore OL BAD !!
October 12th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
JLofty Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
You guys just love arguing moot points huh?
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Competetive conversation.
Good for the mind and the heart.
October 12th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
You are 100% correct on Cable and his hedging of Grad starting if healthy. I expect JC to start this weekend. We already saw what happened with JC vs Niners 1st string in the preseason. I expect the same thing again.
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I am curious as to what you expect to happen?
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a bunch of dumpoffs and struggle. Dont believe me. Look up the playbyplay log on yahoo.
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Thanks for the reply…As I remember it the first possesions he drove down the field for a TD….Against the 9ors 1’s….with a rookie center starting no less…
If he can march us down the field, eat clock, run the ball, keep our D rested, instead of 3 and outs, then yes I will take that JC allday…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
How many turnovers does Grad have? 2nd time I’ve asked…..who is ducking other’s questions?
No you are a JC hater and it is coming out in your posts.
Seabass shanks it yes…..but didnt Grad mess up on that drive? Did he said it himself? NEXT
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LMFAO!
Amazing the pass the Gardowski Group gives him on that delay of game penalty.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
aig-raiders Says:
2. Oh Grad should of have more picks. I noticed that Mistic was not man enough to answer JFB’s question about that pick 6 that JC almost threw.
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I dont know why you brought me into this, but once again you must not read my post.
I did answer, I said it was a bad throw. I also said that was the only poor throw of the game from him. being that it was only his second pass attempt, after being out 2 1/2 games, and under extreme pressure, its understandable.
You have a strange obsession with scabkowski, but your questioning my manhood?
Please.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
the first possesion
October 12th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I’m concerned that we’re going to need Boller to be ready to play this weekend, SF already sent JC off on a cart once…guaranteed sf is going to come out FIRED UP, w/ the D trying to win the game by themselves.
Would love to see some power running by Bush, draws, handoffs out of the gun, slow down their pass rush…
Keep our QB’s standing, whoever it is…
JUST WIN BABY!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Van……dont trip…our guys are ready now. Big monkey let off their backs
October 12th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
2. Oh Grad should of have more picks. I noticed that Mistic was not man enough to answer JFB’s question about that pick 6 that JC almost threw.
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AIG,
I can’t believe how bad he ducked out on that one.
He could have said, “Hey it was only one not the many Bruce should have had” or something along those lines.
The best he came up with was that it was a bad throw caused by poor protection, but even the “bad throw” admittance was like pulling teeth.
LOL…..oh well.
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I answered the question. Go back to the thread if you cant remember.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Yeah SF needs to see a lot of the ground and pound…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
….. but once again you must not read my post.
I did answer, ….
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I call it selective amnesia.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Severe,
Other than the PI call on DHB in AZ, I guess in total as a team we are 0 for the season. I guess Bruce had the Murphy TD in the preseason.
Wasn’t a trashing on Campbell, just referenced that all these checkdowns and the success of the running game will suffer against well coached teams if we can’t stretch the field occasionally
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What about that reece robbery…ur post came off as trashing jc, though u may not have intended it to
October 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Hue needs to know we should run the rock more exclusively…he did that second half last game as he should….pound it again and PA fakes will be deadly
October 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
How about we just pull for whom ever is in the game, debating about who is beter is futile.
Wins and loses is all that matters….
October 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Being that Jerry is the only professional, and he is torn between which is better between the two (says Campbell has a better skill-set, Bruce is more of a leader and better in the two minute drill) and the actual coaches seem to side with Bruce, not sure why it is a discussion.
Campbell has more talent, and doesn’t use it all. Bruce lacks talent, but gets the most out of it.
Until JC taps into the potential, he will continue to flounder. Same with Bruce, if he can’t stop taking massive hits and string together 5 or 6 good games.
Either way, both leave a lot to be desired, and I think most of us Bruce guys, like the grit and the fire from him.
This team needs fire and grit, from a lot more positions besides QB.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Would love to see some power running by Bush, draws, handoffs out of the gun, slow down their pass rush…
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This is where I’m looking for Hue Jax to step his game up. Take advantage of the aggressiveness and knock them on their heels.
Instead of the DHB deep route that is!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
AIG – What can he possible say? We didnt get a first down or get any points. Please show me how you will spin this.
As for the stats with the arm …come on are you really trying to dispute this? You sound like an idiot if you do
AIG – A strong arm is only good if you can use it. Why doesnt he have a better yds per catch. I know why. Dumpoffs!
How many turnovers does Grad have? 2nd time I’ve asked…..who is ducking other’s questions?
AIG – Grad has more. But wait, how many blowouts resulting from those turnovers? ZERO INCLUDING LAST YEAR. How many blowouts under JC?
No you are a JC hater and it is coming out in your posts.
AIG – Let’s set the record straight. I liked him when he got here. Can’t do no worse than Jawalrus. After watching him vs Grad, I know who is the better QB.
Seabass shanks it yes…..but didnt Grad mess up on that drive? Did he said it himself? NEXT
AIG – No not on that money drive. Obviously you have memory issues.
SD better defense tha AZ or Houston…..gonna dispute that as well? How about the 1/7 performance of GRad? Didnt he lose 2 starts?
AIG – Fck me. You gonna blame those 2 losses on him? How was JC’s game vs Tenn? Did we win? Were we even close? Did we lose because Shanski missed a game winning FG? Did Murphy make that catch in his chest?
Sorry son stay in the kiddie pool on this issue.
AIG – I guess I was wrong about you. All talk and nothing to back it up.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Reece robbery made SD scared of that deep ball for sure.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
I answered the question. Go back to the thread if you cant remember.
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LOL!!!!
You gave a running multi-post play-by-play if his entire game, but conveniently left out that play.
I grilled you on it numerous times, of most you ignored, until about 2 hours and 5 posts later, you gave that same excuse you just gave.
Meanwhile, when Bruce had a dropped INT, you posted about 50 times throughout the week, sometimes reverting to all caps to try to prove your point.
Just asking for some consistancy. The whole time I have been consistant, DB’s can’t catch, they drop INT’s every game every week.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
This is where I’m looking for Hue Jax to step his game up. Take advantage of the aggressiveness and knock them on their heels.
Instead of the DHB deep route that is!
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He needs too, before the 4th qtr and during I had him on the ledge for suicide watch…He showed me something play by play last game… Beutifull called 2 drives…Gound and pound, mix in some passes and some lucky bounces…
His overall playcalling grade went up from a D- to a C
October 12th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
The thing that bothers me about Campbell, who had a generally decent game on Sunday, is that he really only completed 1 pass to a receiver downfield all game. That was the nice but not extraordinarily difficult completion to Murphy who took it from about 15 yards to 50+ after the catch.
The same thing was true in the opener against Tennessee. The offense was going nowhere until the game was out of reach and Campbell kept dumping 5 yard passes to McFadden who would take it another 10 yards. Same could be said of the first half vs. STL.
Unless the D/ST generates 16 PPG every week this dink-and-dunk checkdown business isn’t going to cut it. To win in this league, QBs need to make difficult completions into tight spots to keep the offense rolling and put points on the board. We know that, when healthy, Grads is willing and able to make those kinds of throws, but it doesn’t seem like Campbell is willing to try so it remains to be seen if he’s able.
We’re not the 2000 Ravens or even the 2009 Jets on defense and we’re not going to get away with that kind of offensive passing non-attack.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
any on think jacoby going to return one this week I do
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
the whole nick miller thing…. let him return punts and kickoffs… lets see how he does after a couple of weeks.. he makes people miss and uses his speed up field without losing the ball then i say put him in…he looked good on that one return and i still cant get out of my head the diving catch in the endzone he made in that preseason game tho….
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
What about that reece robbery…ur post came off as trashing jc, though u may not have intended it to
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I thought it was the right call, and a combination of bad footwork from Reece and an underthrown pass.
Jerry agreed during the live gametime blog, that it should have been thrown more into the field and led him a little better.
Still Reece has to drag the feet better, but Campbell certainly could have made it easier for him.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
AIG – What can he possible say? We didnt get a first down or get any points. Please show me how you will spin this.
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Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Ford has progressively gotten worse on kickoffs.
I though his confidence is a tad shot.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I think we should turn bruce cambell in to a QB whoo lol
October 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
popcicledrip Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
any on think jacoby going to return one this week I do
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I sure hope so…He needs to do something he is on some of the blog pros list…..
October 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Being that Jerry is the only professional, and he is torn between which is better between the two (says Campbell has a better skill-set, Bruce is more of a leader and better in the two minute drill) and the actual coaches seem to side with Bruce, not sure why it is a discussion.
Campbell has more talent, and doesn’t use it all. Bruce lacks talent, but gets the most out of it.
Until JC taps into the potential, he will continue to flounder. Same with Bruce, if he can’t stop taking massive hits and string together 5 or 6 good games.
Either way, both leave a lot to be desired, and I think most of us Bruce guys, like the grit and the fire from him.
This team needs fire and grit, from a lot more positions besides QB.
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Those same coaches kept hiram eugen on the team over stevie initially, have under utilized MM34, continue to start carlisle and walker, started Scott over Shaughnessy….etc, etc, etc.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Ford has progressively gotten worse on kickoffs.
I though his confidence is a tad shot.
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I notice that too, doesnt look right…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
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Thanks for the reply…As I remember it the first possesions he drove down the field for a TD….Against the 9ors 1’s….with a rookie center starting no less…
If he can march us down the field, eat clock, run the ball, keep our D rested, instead of 3 and outs, then yes I will take that JC allday…
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Thec, that was all that he did and then we sputtered for the next 3 drives.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
its funny because if you combined Bruce Gradkowski and Jason Campbell you would have the prototypical QB.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Ford has progressively gotten worse on kickoffs.
I though his confidence is a tad shot.
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Doesnt run with explosion…Looks like he is going half speed.
Whoever was at the game whats your assesment of JFORD, and the KOR game? Outside of the 64 yarder he hasnt done squat…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Thec, that was all that he did and then we sputtered for the next 3 drives.
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Okay Aig, All i can hope for is the guy who led us to that score does that consistently this sunday…
By the way what was you score for the disc game?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
AIG – What can he possible say? We didnt get a first down or get any points. Please show me how you will spin this.
As for the stats with the arm …come on are you really trying to dispute this? You sound like an idiot if you do
AIG – A strong arm is only good if you can use it. Why doesnt he have a better yds per catch. I know why. Dumpoffs!
How many turnovers does Grad have? 2nd time I’ve asked…..who is ducking other’s questions?
AIG – Grad has more. But wait, how many blowouts resulting from those turnovers? ZERO INCLUDING LAST YEAR. How many blowouts under JC?
No you are a JC hater and it is coming out in your posts.
AIG – Let’s set the record straight. I liked him when he got here. Can’t do no worse than Jawalrus. After watching him vs Grad, I know who is the better QB.
Seabass shanks it yes…..but didnt Grad mess up on that drive? Did he said it himself? NEXT
AIG – No not on that money drive. Obviously you have memory issues.
SD better defense tha AZ or Houston…..gonna dispute that as well? How about the 1/7 performance of GRad? Didnt he lose 2 starts?
AIG – Fck me. You gonna blame those 2 losses on him? How was JC’s game vs Tenn? Did we win? Were we even close? Did we lose because Shanski missed a game winning FG? Did Murphy make that catch in his chest?
Sorry son stay in the kiddie pool on this issue.
AIG – I guess I was wrong about you. All talk and nothing to back it up.
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LOL too easy to slice you man
First off….Campbell completes a dink and dunk pass to murphy and then we run it 3 straight times and miss it on 4th down. What would Grads have done differently to get a TD?
Notice you walked around the arm strength issue and wanna cry about dumpoffs lol. How about INTS and fumbles? Bad accuracy?
How many of those turnovers helped the Raiders out by Grad?
LOL tell me you aint denying Grad admitted he fked up that AZ game? You lose
We did not lose that game on Seabass….never should have been close and come down to a kicker. Sorry you lose again
LOL sorry to let you down and not follow your BS. You proved nada except your agenda against JC sorry. Grad is not the better QB lol
October 12th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Did we lose because Shanski missed a game winning FG? Did Murphy make that catch in his chest?
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This is why it won’t die, lol!
Did Gardowski blow a GO AHEAD gift TD by taking a delay of game? Are both the coach and Gardowski lying when they say it shouldn’t have come down to that?
It was 4th and 16 at mid field man! LMFAO! Murphy did not drop a go ahead TD pass. What about all the blunders by Gardowski that made it 4th and 16?
And phhhuuggg me, as you would say, that completing that pass = going on to score a TD, getting the ball back and winning the game.
AMAZING stretches!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
# Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Ford has progressively gotten worse on kickoffs.
I though his confidence is a tad shot.
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Doesnt run with explosion…Looks like he is going half speed.
Whoever was at the game whats your assesment of JFORD, and the KOR game? Outside of the 64 yarder he hasnt done squat…
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totally agree!! ford looks scared out there…. thats why i say let miller do both PR/ KR.. MILLER has a set of cojones on him and is not afraid of getting hit…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
AIG – What can he possible say? We didnt get a first down or get any points. Please show me how you will spin this.
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Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
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Oakland – 10:12
1st-10, SD46 10:12 J. Campbell passed to L. Murphy to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, SD43 9:42 M. Bush rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
3rd-1, SD37 9:07 M. Bush rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
4th-2, SD38 8:20 M. Bush rushed to the right for 1 yard gain
WHOS THE FCKIN MORON NOW?????
October 12th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Bauce, what up for JFORD? He looks like he is going half speed on KOR???
October 12th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
its funny because if you combined Bruce Gradkowski and Jason Campbell you would have the prototypical QB.
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100% correct.
Sad thing for Bruce is, you just don’t gain talent at 27, so obviously Campbell has more of the capability to be the prototypical QB (although I would agree leadership is in your DNA).
But I am sick of waiting for the talented guy to “put it together”. Jamarcus Russell ruined it for me for all the talented guys out there that just haven’t put it together.
Figure that ish out Monday-Friday, and come to play with no excuses on Sunday.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
What about that reece robbery…ur post came off as trashing jc, though u may not have intended it to
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I thought it was the right call, and a combination of bad footwork from Reece and an underthrown pass.
Jerry agreed during the live gametime blog, that it should have been thrown more into the field and led him a little better.
Still Reece has to drag the feet better, but Campbell certainly could have made it easier for him.
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The announcers said that it was a well thrown pass and it looked that way to me. Problem is how Reece tried to catch it, and he still should have dragged that last foot
October 12th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
# Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Ford has progressively gotten worse on kickoffs.
I though his confidence is a tad shot.
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I notice that too, doesnt look right…
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when I moaned about the draft pick of Jacoby Ford, I was assured here that he would be a human joy-stick and return tons for TDs…
I still would have picked QB Mike Kafka… and what I seen to Ford, that dont change…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Chris a QB has to be accurate as well….is Grad that?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
AIG – What can he possible say? We didnt get a first down or get any points. Please show me how you will spin this.
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Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
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Oakland – 10:12
1st-10, SD46 10:12 J. Campbell passed to L. Murphy to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, SD43 9:42 M. Bush rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
3rd-1, SD37 9:07 M. Bush rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
4th-2, SD38 8:20 M. Bush rushed to the right for 1 yard gain
WHOS THE FCKIN MORON NOW?????
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And what would have Grad done on that drive MORON?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Got a question for everyone in here, if you had the choice would you lose this game to SF to win the next 3 in a row which 2 are in our division and all 3 in the AFC?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
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Oakland – 10:12
1st-10, SD46 10:12 J. Campbell passed to L. Murphy to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, SD43 9:42 M. Bush rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
3rd-1, SD37 9:07 M. Bush rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
4th-2, SD38 8:20 M. Bush rushed to the right for 1 yard gain
WHOS THE FCKIN MORON NOW?????
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Did you really just post stats backing up MY post and asking who the MORON is?
Like I said, Bush ran the ball 3 straight times including the failed 4th and 2 attempt.
How does that compare to Gardowski holding the ball too long and taking a sack fumble in FG range?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
AIG,
You should just let JFB speak for the Gardowski Group right now.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
severeraiderz Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
its funny because if you combined Bruce Gradkowski and Jason Campbell you would have the prototypical QB.
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100% correct.
Sad thing for Bruce is, you just don’t gain talent at 27, so obviously Campbell has more of the capability to be the prototypical QB (although I would agree leadership is in your DNA).
But I am sick of waiting for the talented guy to “put it together”. Jamarcus Russell ruined it for me for all the talented guys out there that just haven’t put it together.
Figure that ish out Monday-Friday, and come to play with no excuses on Sunday.
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JC just doesnt trust these wideouts, and why should he??? JC is a leader and he displayed on those drives, when the team made a costly mistake or the ref took away that pass to Reece he was the person that kept everyone cool and went out there and executed. Both u and i know those type of things would have derailed us in the past. Whether the qb is JC or Grads how many in here have confidence in our team taking it 97yds for a sacore in crunch time??? Not many i bet and Jason did just that when it mattered most. This game could very well be the tipping point that many in here thought the Rams game was
October 12th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I don’t live in the Bay anymore, and know about 2-3 49er fans.
Win the divison games and got those tie-breakers. This game is not much different than the Rams or Cardinals game for me.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Got a question for everyone in here, if you had the choice would you lose this game to SF to win the next 3 in a row which 2 are in our division and all 3 in the AFC?
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Yes I would lose this game…Winning 3 games in the AFC, and 2 games in the division is far more important to our playoff potential, than bragging rights…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
JHILL lol
October 12th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
This Gradkowski/Cambell argument is ridiculous. Campbell is going to be the starter. Grads won’t play this week, and Al is not going to let Cable bench our best QB for Rich Gannon lite.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
starting qb should be a coin flip in locker room prior to game.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Gimme the 49ers victory dammit
October 12th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
But I am sick of waiting for the talented guy to “put it together”.
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What does that mean?
Chaz is hurt and JLH can barely get on the field.
Gardowski tries to get it to DHB in the AZ game and the coach CLEARLY put an end to that against Houston. 11 targets down to what 3?
Murphy is playing with a bum shoulder, and is he really open?
Both QBs are handicapped with this issue. Gardowski to the WRs in the Az game and the Texan game was nothing to talk about.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Yeah Grad for sure aint playing this week….shoulder is jacked
October 12th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Gimme the 49ers victory dammit
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Must be keyed….
October 12th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Did we lose because Shanski missed a game winning FG? Did Murphy make that catch in his chest?
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This is why it won’t die, lol!
Did Gardowski blow a GO AHEAD gift TD by taking a delay of game? Are both the coach and Gardowski lying when they say it shouldn’t have come down to that?
AIG – They all say it to bail out Shanski. You know it and the whole world knows it. The game came down to that fckin FG. Dont try to spin it.
It was 4th and 16 at mid field man! LMFAO! Murphy did not drop a go ahead TD pass. What about all the blunders by Gardowski that made it 4th and 16?
AIG – We had 2 mins left and 2 Timeouts at the 50 if he caught that. They could not stop us for the prev 2 drives. Who the fck knows what would happen!
And phhhuuggg me, as you would say, that completing that pass = going on to score a TD, getting the ball back and winning the game.
AMAZING stretches!
AIG – If the D doesnt make that stop, we lose the fcking game. It came down to the D making that stop and they did. Yet you guys are all so happy JC won the game for us. I thought the D made the play to win the game for us. How many points were JC spotted and how many did he have left? Out of 35 poitns, JC scored 17!!! But hell JC won the game for us right?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
im out see ya
October 12th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Grad shouldn’t even be active this weekend.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
ltr young lion…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Grads was 1-5 in the first qtr with his only completion being to Miller and finished the game 1-7 for 14yds.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Chris a QB has to be accurate as well….is Grad that?
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I think Gardowski is right at 50%.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
J,
What I’m saying is I am sick of the starting QB decision being based on who is the more “talented” guy.
Neither Bruce or JC has done much to write home about this year, so they should both continue to play until someone mans up and earns the job. Just like the LT position.
The whole notion that this guy is more talented and is going to get the start or a longer leash, just pisses me off to no end.
A bunch of spazzatura as grandma would say.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Grad shouldn’t even be active this weekend.
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they will keep him active, so the other team will spend time scheming for him. He is clearly hurt, and should sit until he is better. I like both our QB’s as they wear the Silver an Black…start who ever wil put us in a position to win…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Fck me Hill,
You said it was Grad that took the sack. Are you gonna run from post 334 and try to edit your own post?????????
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J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Notice Jhill already addressed the nick miller issue so you got cut right there
AIG – What can he possible say? We didnt get a first down or get any points. Please show me how you will spin this.
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Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
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October 12th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
spazzatura , is that a greek, or italian dish???
October 12th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
interesting stat i saw thru 5 weeks… RAIDERS have scored 111pts so far… only 10 other teams in the NFL have scored more…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
C’mon Jhill,
Are you gonna get the admins to delete post 334? Trying to pull a fast one on me? Aint gonna happen bro.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
As well as JC played in the 2nd half, we need Grads this week. he is the more active one in the pocket and we saw what happened to campbell in the preseason.
if grads in inactive the niners will probably send the house more often that not, thus meaning campbell may die by half time.
if boller enters the game, we will get a swift ass whooping. sooo lets hope bruce heals up quick. POSITIVE THOUGHTS NATION!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
AIG – If the D doesnt make that stop, we lose the fcking game. It came down to the D making that stop and they did. Yet you guys are all so happy JC won the game for us. I thought the D made the play to win the game for us. How many points were JC spotted and how many did he have left? Out of 35 poitns, JC scored 17!!! But hell JC won the game for us right?
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He scored 17 of the 28 we needed to win lol. He was spotted 12 points and then the D immediately gave up 17. Man the way you are getting so mad really tells me how you feel about grads, chill out my man.
Im outro, have already spent too much time here. Peace in the Middle East
October 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
C’mon JHill? Where you at now? Dont ever ever ever try to pull that shcytt on me again.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Jeezus Christ people, still going on about the QB?
Grad’s plays his heart out for you
Campbell is a more conservative
Neither are All-Pros, ok?
If you want real change……..get Al Davis out. Sheesh.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
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Read it slowly AIG!
The key word in the post is COMPARISON.
Line 1 = scenario 1
Line 2 = scenario 2
Line 3 = question about line 1 and 2.
Does that help?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Severez,
So it’s ok for you guys to use the D as an excuse when JC plays but we can’t use the D or spec team when Grad play? That’s why you are all a bunch of homers.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
The game was WON because somebody went against Raider Policy and shhtcanned the prevent defense down the stretch, ok?
October 12th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Kell, how about a moratorium on the Davis is evil stuff until they lose again.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
AIG
It’s when theose 17 points were scored that counts we were desparate for those points. It was the difference in the game to be sure. That’s what the coaches mean when they say finish.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Jhill,
It was not Grad. It was Campbell at the helm. And no he didnt take a sack. So you dont know wtf you are talking about.
But please by all means, try to spin it as much as you want.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
what was funny in the SD win was the woe is me bloggers who were on during our last 2 drives….
Oh we cant score, oh we cant stop rivers, oh we are going to blow it….
October 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
C’mon Jhill,
Are you gonna get the admins to delete post 334? Trying to pull a fast one on me? Aint gonna happen bro.
aig-raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
C’mon JHill? Where you at now? Dont ever ever ever try to pull that shcytt on me again.
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Post 1 min apart asking me where I am?
Hilarious stuff man.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
i called gradkowskis old coach in tampa asked should he be the starter coach= no then i called j.campbells mother asked should he be starter? mom= yes
October 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
is gallery starting this week
October 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Agreed KK-move on.Just root for whomever happens to be under center each game.This is getting ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Priest,
I never said JC sucked. I thought he did ok and I stand firm on that. However, I want to puke when I see the homers come on here trying to make it look like JC had a fantastic day.
You had the best post after the game. We won and we were lucky both qb’s were on our roster. I can accept that. I also think JC should start this weekend.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I remember when the Broncos played two QBs each game. Each QB alternated series.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Cable said Gallery has a good chance at playing this week.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Jhill,
next time, when you are wrong. Man up bro. You get more respect that way. Trying to spin it just make you look more stupid. I’m out.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Priest, We answered your riddle so give us the answer…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Got a question for everyone in here, if you had the choice would you lose this game to SF to win the next 3 in a row which 2 are in our division and all 3 in the AFC?
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Yes I would lose this game…Winning 3 games in the AFC, and 2 games in the division is far more important to our playoff potential, than bragging rights…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
504 Raider Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
MR is your birthday in April? Most of the negative thinking people I know were born in April for some reason.
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You know, you may have something there. I just flashed to the most negative person I know at work and sure enough, he was born in April. Now I’m thinking of other negative people I know and I think a lot of them were born in April. Weird.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
AIG,
Take a step back and calm down man.
YOU put together a list that contained this ….
3. Grad left too many points on the board. After Nick Miller returned it to SD’s 46, JC couldnt move the ball at all for a first down. Points left on the board? Anyone dare answer this.
Gardowski leaving points on the board = the sack/fumble he took in FG range right before the half.
Ask your team leader JFB to confirm this for you!
You look AMAZINGLY stupid for calling people MORONS yet you need YOUR argument repeated to you.
Let’s try it again now that you have the scenario fresh in your mind ….
Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
djohnnyg, you okay Bruh? As i remeber you were one of the naysayers on sunday…during the 4th qtr…
October 12th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
If the Raiders win this week, they are going to win the division. Print it!
October 12th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
It is really a shame Jerry doesn’t do more in depth reporting about things like injured players.For weeks we have read Goethel has been out with a lower back injury.Has anyone talked to him and tried to get any info. about it?That goes for some of the other injured players also.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
It is really a shame Jerry doesn’t do more in depth reporting about things like injured players.For weeks we have read Goethel has been out with a lower back injury.Has anyone talked to him and tried to get any info. about it?That goes for some of the other injured players also.
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I am Goethel’s friend on facebook. I’ll ask him.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
The Raiders are famous for the gag orders.
Players aren’t allowed to talk about their injuries.
October 12th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Lefty, on Saturday, Goethel said on his facebook page that he is getting better, but not quite there yet.
October 12th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Priest-I’d rather win all 4 games.
October 12th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
69 Days underground!!!
I sure will be glad to see those guys come up!!!!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Mike Singletary wanted to see how Alex Smith would respond to possibly being benched, so he tested Smith by yelling at him in front of the whole country. Singletary liked Smith’s response, so he kept him in the game.
If you think that entire episode was a little silly, a Hall of Fame coach agrees with you.
“That’s something that, a lot of things go on in a game that you’re not proud of as a coach,” Madden said on KCBS radio via the San Francisco Chronicle.
“That’s really not part of coaching, that’s sometimes I worry about that. I see youth football and I see high school football and coaches yelling at players and I cringe when I see it. I think people get the picture that’s what coaching is and believe me, that’s not what coaching is.”
October 12th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
To get off the JC vs Grads subject or Chile for that matter. Since the Giants are playing in the NLCS. Do you guys think it will be easier for Raider fans to get tickets to the 49er VS Raiders game. They are some fair weather fans for sure. Thoughts?
October 12th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
morilla Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
People who think first round picks are valuable really don’t know jack about football.
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Wasn’t Peyton Manning a first rounder?
October 12th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Go Phillies
October 12th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
ESPN looking into Mel Kiper’s relationship with Gary Wichard
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/12/espn-looking-into-mel-kipers-relationship-with-gary-wichard/
October 12th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
why j .campbell should start 1.stronger arm 2.more hair 3.better scrambler 4.he is a democrat 5.more durable 6.no ski in his name 7.taller 8.more experience as a starter 9.less turnovers 10.makes more money
October 12th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
This isn’t the first time there have been questions raised about Kiper’s relationships with Wichard. PFT wrote an article back in April about Kiper’s ranking of Jimmy Clausen as his top prospect at quarterback. Clausen was a Wichard client.
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I guess DHB isn’t one of Wichard’s guys.
October 12th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Thought Little Nicky was going to get blasted by the first Dolt gunner on that PR, nice side step, and man he gets those skinny little legs of his spinning in a hurry. Looks like a old looney tunes cartoon…
The great Bruce vs. Campbell debate is spirited and effin funny.
Al, could have a trained seal from Sea World at QB, and as long as we win I could care less…All about results..
October 12th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Grads is hurt. Campbell should start. Mcfadden is hurt. Bush should start.
If the o-line can protect Campbell consistently(and that’s a very big if), then we should do fine with Campbell right now.
October 12th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
A blonde was telling Gradkowski a Pollock joke, when halfway through Gradkowski interrupts her, ‘Don’t you know I’m Polish?’
‘Oh, I’m sorry,’ the blonde apologizes, ‘do you want me to start over and talk slower?’
October 12th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
You can’t praise Gradkowski’s efforts and then at the same time slam Campbell’s efforts yesterday….and vice-versa.
Play the best player. Play the guy that stands out and wins games and takes the job!
October 12th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Anyone suggesting trading Nnamdi Asomugha is out of their mind.
On a team lacking truly elite players….you don’t trade the one or two you’ve got.
Also…..you don’t create more holes on a team with too many as it is. What’s the answer if you trade Nnamdi? The next Fabian Washington? give me a break.. Nnamdi stays!
Also, if the Raiders were to trade Nnamdi, expect another 5 years of 1st round picks to be used finding his replacement!
October 12th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
They where just talking about raiders on NFL network. Giving them mad props. Saying this team is turning things around. Were not a pushover anymore guys. Teams are starting to worry about this team know. They even showed cables post game talk to his team also. It was awesome and I mean that in a good way. Not a big cable fan but he gained alot of respect for me. Just from his speech alone. Raider nation 4 life. I’m jacked guys. He’ll ya!
October 12th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Finally, trading Michael Bush would also be a HUGE mistake. As I said above, you don’t trade good players when you have a team that has a tough time finding and developing good players.
Bush and McFadden could become the perfect 1-2 punch for the next 5 to 8 years. And judging by the injury issues that both players have…keeping both makes perfect sense.
Again, replace him with who? The next Justin Fargas! Give me a break. Keep good young players….
The issue is not dedicating big dollars to players that don’t produce
October 12th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Jmcclain,
THey are playing tougher. Says a lot that the last two games they’ve played ended up on NFL Replay….only really out of 1 game…being the 1st week stinker.
The team is better….now they have to be consistent. And that’s on the coaches to get them ready to play this weekend. In every way, this week against S.F is as big as last week. This is a must win.
And the game plan better center around shutting down Frank Gore
October 12th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Anyone suggesting trading Nnamdi Asomugha is out of their mind.
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Resign the guy for 5 years 50 million or so. Disagree with letting him walk for nothing. Can’t pay a CB 17 million a year.
Routt is a free agent next year, what do yo do with him?
Huff????
October 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
SnB
I agree, you don’t trade a star in the hand, for potential in the Bush.
October 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Anybody knows the line for the 49ers game?
Im guessing its pick em ?…
October 12th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
JT Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Anybody knows the line for the 49ers game?
Im guessing its pick em ?…
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Some poster said above that it’s SF giving Oakland 10 pts.
October 12th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Comment:
This 49er game is the EXACT trap game that the raiders usually lose.
Coming from a emotional win, team will be flat, and beleiving they are the best team and dont have to prove it on the field?…
Hopefully they win 2 in a row for once
October 12th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
johnnyg Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
JT Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Anybody knows the line for the 49ers game?
Im guessing its pick em ?…
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Some poster said above that it’s SF giving Oakland 10 pts.
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No way thats the line…
October 12th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Raiders 7pts underdog.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Jhill,
Yes, sign Nnamdi to a reasonable contract that makes him the highest paid CB in the league. I don’t want draft picks. This team has such a sketchy record of late that its not worth it.
Routt…He’s not worth big money…they can re-sign him at a more modest salary.
Michael Huff, he would have to take a pay cut.
Thing is Jhill is Al Davis puts defensive backs as the NUMBER 1 PRIORITY!
We get rid of a Nnmadi, Routt or Huff and don’t have a satisfactory answer on the roster….well, you know how that damn draft is going to go in April for the next 5 years.
I think the secondary issues have a lot to do with not giving the opponent different looks and challenges pressuring the QB at times.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I’m thinking we could just enjoy the warm buzz of Sunday’s win. Lotta guys on here wanna talk about how it didn’t mean anything if we don’t back it up etc. etc. and getting all negative right off the bat. Geez, we don’t get to enjoy many wins around here, seems like after a nice one like Sunday’s we should just enjoy it for awhile and start worrying about the next one maybe Thursday. To each his own.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Raiders 7pts underdog.
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Impossible…
October 12th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
SnB
I agree, you don’t trade a star in the hand, for potential in the Bush.
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I am kind of tired of potential with this team. I want more sure things. That’s why I have no problem with Gradkowski playing over Campbell for the time being.
Guys have to produce and the Raiders track record with draft picks are just awful over the last 10 or so years.
Plus, teams are not going to give up a good player for Bush or Nnamdi. We aren’t going to get a boss D-Lineman or O-Lineman….more likely it will be some serviceable player and a draft pick…and you know what happens to draft picks around here
October 12th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
SnB,
One of the main reasons I’m hoping McFadden and Ware get healthy in that secondary.. Those youngsters playing well along with Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell give us some real options for next year.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Spread niners 6/12
October 12th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
JT
7 point dog. I know…………….
October 12th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
fat kidd Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
A blonde was telling Gradkowski a Pollock joke, when halfway through Gradkowski interrupts her, ‘Don’t you know I’m Polish?’
‘Oh, I’m sorry,’ the blonde apologizes, ‘do you want me to start over and talk slower?’
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I’ve got a good one:
There was this Jewish guy from New York who bought some football team in California…well, you know the rest.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
KoolKell
You are correct, I just checked.
Thats a big number… going against a 0-5 team… that says how little the oddsmakers think of the raiders…
Line should be at max around 3 points.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
DHB vs. Crabtree comments….
Crabtree right now is far better than DHB. Sorry to say it and I hate saying it.
But wide receivers are measured 1st and foremost on catching the damn ball and accumulating yards. That clearout thing is not what a top 10 pick is drafted for.
DHB may develop…just like any young player…but he is starting out veeeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy slooooooooooowwwwwly.
He got 11 receptions in 5 games….He’s been targeted 33 times.
He’s gotta step up….Louis Murphy is making plays…DHB needs to make some too
October 12th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Giants gave Justin Fargas a workout today
October 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I just hate playing an 05 team right now, for the 2 game winning streak.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
SnB,
One of the main reasons I’m hoping McFadden and Ware get healthy in that secondary.. Those youngsters playing well along with Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell give us some real options for next year.
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Keeping Nnamdi will make any other changes possible.
Losing Nnamdi and we will be neglecting the lines for another decade.
I am not so much concerned about the secondary. The Ravens get it done with a pedestrian secondary…the key for this defense is mixing up the looks and getting more pressure on the QB….and stopping the run
October 12th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Oakland_raiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Giants gave Justin Fargas a workout today
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He was the starter last year…or at least effectively the starter……
Gotta do a better job of evaluating talent in Oakland. I am all for good attitude go-getting types….but at the end of the day all that matters is PRODUCTION!
October 12th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I just hate playing an 05 team right now, for the 2 game winning streak.
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The issue the Raiders have to be mindful of is that this is a physical team that can punish an opponent if you let them.
This is not the Buffalo Bills here.
The Raiders defense has to bring their A game….stopping the run is everything here…it will set the tempo either for the Raiders or for the 49ers.
Also, in the preseason game, the 49ers were able to abuse the O-Line with a variety of looks and blitzes….again..o-line has to bring the A game.
This will not be a cake walk. Singletary is a motivator so the team will be prepared.
The Raiders have to come out ready fight, claw, cheat, steal and bleed for a victory
October 12th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I just hate playing an 05 team right now, for the 2 game winning streak.
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This is definitely a trap game.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
J Campbell not taking enough risks and too hesitant, Grads taking too many hits and risks, D exposed against the run one week then against the pass the next, Wr’s almost non existent, Jano missing a game winner. Surprisingly the OL may be the position group that has exceeded expectations moreso than any other. How many sacks has the oline allowed compared to other olines in the league? Don’t have the stat but we can’t be near the bottom can we? And the oline has produced a 100 yard runner every game except the Texan game when carries were split do to injury, they deserve some of the credit.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
djohnnyg, you okay Bruh? As i remeber you were one of the naysayers on sunday…during the 4th qtr…
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Yes. Guilty as charged.
I guess I was mentally preparing myself for what I thought was the inevitable last second heartbreaker. I admit I had no faith whatsoever the Raiders would stop ‘em.
Nobody was happier than I was when the final gun went off, because the gun was about to go off in my head.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I was seriously thinking how I hoped we’d win the coin toss in overtime. This was AFTER we went up by eight and there were only 50 secs. left.
I’ve seen worse happen to the Raiders. And really, after what we’ve all seen these past yrs. nobody can tell me that the possibility didn’t cross at least cross your minds for a brief moment.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Gallery not a LT but our best olineman and you can’t predict him being injury prone, lots of teams would have loved to have found T Kelly as an UFA, DMAC lookin like a stud, Seymour vital to us having a chance this year so worth a first rounder, Z Miller good 2nd round pick, Murphy good 4th round pick same as M Bush, Nnamdi good first round pick a while back, Shaughnessey and Houston already stout against the run, too early to asess DHB or some of the other 2010 draft picks but they’re showing promise
October 12th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
According to Raiders.com These are the WR’s receptions per game.
Wk 5 LM 2 DHB 0 JLH 0
Wk 4 LM 1 DHB 1 JLH 2
WK 3 LM 5 DHB 3 JLH 0
Wk 2 LM 6 DHB 6 JLH 0
Wk 1 LM 4 DHB 1 JLH 1
Looks like both QB’s have a tough time finding the WR’s at times.
If someone has already posted this I apoligize.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
REceivers aren’t getting targeted because they aren’t getting open.
Period.
Zach Miller gets open because he runs great routes and catches the doggone football.
He did so in his rookie year.
The Raiders receivers have to step up…especially from the anemic numbers they’ve put up. Get me to just bad at least.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
LOL MR you really believe Al is gonna let Grad be a long term QB? Be serious. JC playing sunday whether you like it or not and we are going to win
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I don’t think Al should be mettling in ANYTHING the coaches do. Unless they do something that I don’t like. Then, I want Uncle Al to deal the punishment.
I tend to waffle between wanting Mr. Davis to die a horrible death, and going out and buying an ‘Al Lives’ t-shirt.
I obviously need professional help.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
REceivers aren’t getting targeted because they aren’t getting open.
Period.
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The only reason I posted that was because someone mentioned the Bruce was finding the WR’s. So I had to check it out.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Raiders For Life,
The receivers just aren’t doing their jobs right now. Even JaDavis got the ball to the receivers on the handful of completions that he had.
DHB, Murphy and JLH have to step up. If they were open the QBs would hit them.
For now, checking down to Tight Ends and Running Backs move the chains and keep the team in contention.
Trying to force feed the receivers is the absolute WRONG thing to do right now.
The right thing to do is for Sanjay Lal and these “receivers” to just figure it out
October 12th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Right now our WR can’t get the ball because their routes are too long and the O-Line can’t hold blocks for more than 2 seconds.
October 12th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
didn’t the o-line play pretty well against SD? Especially after SD got a ton of sacks vs Jacksonville.
October 12th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Grads doesn’t have the arm to throw the outs. Campbell won’t throw the outs.
October 12th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
stimulate the econimy by putting al davis on the $10.00 bill it would make you spend more.
October 12th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Campbell would be the starter now (and still) if he would JUST LET THE BALL GO. It’s not that he doesn’t want to throw the ball to the WR’s…he just isn’t trusting his arm and the timing of the WR’s/pass routes to let it rip.
But…people claiming JCampbell doesn’t have the instincts or brains to play NFL QB are way off base (and obviously know NOTHING about coaching or playing football). He’s got excellent instincts, plenty of football smarts, and all the athletic tools. His “problems” with the Offense are easily fixed (as evidenced vs San Diego).
If JCampbell fired-up his team the way Grads does, he would’ve never been benched. But, a tentative QB (and he’s been plenty tentative) doesn’t exactly instill fire-breathing confidence…even if all your teammates and coaches love you.
A good old-fashioned QB battle…hopefully one of these guys takes the helm and never lets it go. If that happens, we’re all going to be happy. Well, real fans will be, anyway…
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Very well said.My biggest knock on Grad and he has yet to prove it is: He hasn’t beaten a quality defense yet. The wheels fell off the wagon of the Troy-less Pittsburgh win when Brady Quinn came in two weeks later and beat them to complete the 5 game losing skid. Cincy beat as many +.500 teams as we did last year (4). I had already predicted that if Grad started, we would lose to the Chargers. Six quarters against the Jets and Cowboys saw 7 points total. He has yet to prove he can take on quality defenses and move the ball like he does against 31st ranked defenses. The second knock is of course being injury prone. I’m sorry, when you injure both knees in one game, it still counts as two injuries unless it happens on the same play. Now,he’s injured his shoulder. For me, he’s going to have to prove that he can take the hit (Quit the Tarzan crap until you prove you can take a hit) and he’s got to beat someone who’s defense isn’t in the league’s toilet.
October 12th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
KKKell are you still bitter after the win? Keep your chin up old feller there’s 11 more games to be played!
October 12th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………WIN
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….WIN
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..WIN
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..WIN
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..WIN
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK……………..LOSS
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………WIN
October 12th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………LOSS
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….LOSS
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..LOSS
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..LOSS
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..LOSS
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK……………..WIN
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………LOSS
October 12th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
sad arguing over JC or Grab.
neither would start anywhere else
October 12th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
evenin nation,
#465 i agree, it is sad..arguing about who starts and who is better, especially when you consider it is al davis’s call..snd recent history tells us the raiders QB will be a black man..i believe that is why jason is here,,no?
October 12th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Stak Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
sad arguing over JC or Grab.
neither would start anywhere else
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Not exactly true. Buffalo, Carolina, Cleveland, San Fran, Arizona all come to mind. Those obvious ones aside, I’d take Bruce over more than half the starters in the league right now.
Bruce is averaging 14 yards per completion. Campbell is at less than 10 yards.
October 12th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Stak Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
sad arguing over JC or Grab.
neither would start anywhere else
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Not exactly true. Buffalo, Carolina, Cleveland, San Fran, Arizona all come to mind. Those obvious ones aside, I’d take Bruce over more than half the starters in the league right now.
Bruce is averaging 14 yards per completion. Campbell is at less than 10 yards.
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The Raiders may not have top tier QBs, but they have a better QB situation than a lot of teams.
October 12th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Why is SF favored to win? I’m not an odds guy or whatever, but shown how the Raiders can step it up, against a good team, why is SF the favorite?
The niners may be under more pressure to win, and that may not be a good thing. I’ll look for logical explanations please.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Island because the 49ers are at home and our defense can’t stop anybody run or pass.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Agree we may not stop a run (and pass). But I wouldn’t call Candlestick hostile because I’m sure there will be plenty of Raider fans.
Hopefully there may be some new life with the SD win and Marshall and company will practice that this week.
Maybe special teams will feel the calling.
That is a problem tho when the Raiders do win for me. I always think they are ready to turn the corner and then the reality disappoints me again. But I wouldn’t bet against them if I were a betting guy.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Vegas linesmakers don’t look at win-loss records.
The have their power rankings, home field is worth 3 points, and they go right off of that.
Suprised the line is 7, I thought it might be 4.5 or 5
October 12th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I remember hearing a few months ago, after the Boise State-VA Tech game (even after VA Tech lost to James Madison) that if they were going to play again on a neutral field, Vegas would still have the Hokies as a favorite.
Win and losses don’t mean as much as you would think.
Alabama could lose the next three games, and they still will be favored in every game afterwards.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Campbell deserves props. There should be a bronze statue of him outside the stadium for beating the Chargers.
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He was the QB of record, for sure. Beat the 49ers and he deserves a blue ribbon. You know what he would have to do to get the statue.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Vegas linesmakers don’t look at win-loss records.
The have their power rankings, home field is worth 3 points, and they go right off of that.
Suprised the line is 7, I thought it might be 4.5 or 5
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I highly doubt home field should be worth 3 with the Raider crowd you will see at this game. This spread is based on the end of last season. Don’t worry, the good guys will win by 7!!! My concern is they’ll blow opportunities like they did in Arizona. If they come out with 90% of the intensity as they did vs. San Diego, it should be a win by the end of the 3rd quarter.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
It definitely is hard not to be skeptical, based on the past 7 seasons. But mentally, this has to be the best time to play these guys! Imagine the crowd turning on Alex Smith if we abuse him in the 1st quarter? Our defense has to be licking their chops!
October 12th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
djohnnyg Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I’m thinking we could just enjoy the warm buzz of Sunday’s win. Lotta guys on here wanna talk about how it didn’t mean anything if we don’t back it up etc. etc. and getting all negative right off the bat. Geez, we don’t get to enjoy many wins around here, seems like after a nice one like Sunday’s we should just enjoy it for awhile and start worrying about the next one maybe Thursday. To each his own.
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If you weren’t at the game, watch it tomorrow night at 6:15 on the NFL Network. Otherwise, be like the players. They are very glad to have knocked off the Chargers, but we have to be concerned about our 2nd in a row now and get in contention in the AFC West!
October 12th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
I would like to think the momentum from the SD game would account for something, but I know, these are the Raiders. I still think (or would like to believe) this win was big enough to kick start this team to some consistant winning.
It was like, they competed. Where did that come from. Now maybe they found ‘it’.
October 12th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
I stumbled on this:
http://richeisen.nfl.com/2010/10/12/the-rich-eisen-podcast-episode-5-ice-cube-jared-allen-and-more/
Cube thinks, “Brad” should Start. 51:10
October 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
some criticize single for reaming smith, but most dont. he made sm stupid mistakes, and looks like it did him good. it’s football. u have a whole team counting on u. you mess up, u should expect to hear it.
smith said it woke him up, that he had to be aggressive or be gone. sure looked good the lst couple drives cept for the pick he threw w he was hit
October 12th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Cube thinks, “Brad” should Start. 51:10
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high praise indeed. who cares?
October 12th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
everyone waiting for crab/bey matchup.
have a feeling crab is going to embarass bey
October 12th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Raiders For Life,
The receivers just aren’t doing their jobs right now. Even JaDavis got the ball to the receivers on the handful of completions that he had.
DHB, Murphy and JLH have to step up. If they were open the QBs would hit them.
For now, checking down to Tight Ends and Running Backs move the chains and keep the team in contention.
Trying to force feed the receivers is the absolute WRONG thing to do right now.
The right thing to do is for Sanjay Lal and these “receivers” to just figure it out
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Completely agree with this. DHB and Murphy have yet to demonstrate that they can make the catch when it absolutely has to be made. They have demonstrated quite the opposite on enough occasions that a smart QB will think twice about throwing them the ball unless they’re wide open. “Getting them involved” is a nice sentiment if your job isn’t on the line; Campbell’s is, and he’s going to go to the guys he thinks are going to catch the ball. The defense will give him all the information he needs; if they’re going to play to take away the WRs Campbell will check down and go to ZMiller all day. When they start shortenig their coverage he’ll take shots. If the running game is clicking he’ll have more options. Say what you want about Campbell, but keeping us out of third and long is his job right now and if he can do that and orchestrate a few long drives like he did against the Chargers we’ll be a better team for it.
October 12th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
J Hill Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
AIG,
Take a step back and calm down man.
YOU put together a list that contained this ….
3. Grad left too many points on the board. After Nick Miller returned it to SD’s 46, JC couldnt move the ball at all for a first down. Points left on the board? Anyone dare answer this.
Gardowski leaving points on the board = the sack/fumble he took in FG range right before the half.
Ask your team leader JFB to confirm this for you!
You look AMAZINGLY stupid for calling people MORONS yet you need YOUR argument repeated to you.
Let’s try it again now that you have the scenario fresh in your mind ….
Gardowski took a sack-fumble in FG range …
Bush ran the ball 3 straight time including a failed 4th and 2 attempt.
The fact that you are trying to make a comparison here is HILARIOUS!
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Jhill,
WTF are you smoking? Are you just plain ignorant or refuse to admit you didnt know your shcytt. Here is the fcking play by play log from yahoo you moron.
4th-7, 50 10:24 M. Scifres punt. N. Miller returned punt for 46 yards
Oakland – 10:12
1st-10, SD46 10:12 J. Campbell passed to L. Murphy to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, SD43 9:42 M. Bush rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
3rd-1, SD37 9:07 M. Bush rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
4th-2, SD38 8:20 M. Bush rushed to the right for 1 yard gain
Where in the world is Grad in this series. This is the second Raider series in the 3rd qtr. Grad is already yanked. BTW, right before the half is when Campbell led the team to a FG.
WTF are you talking about you dubm fck!!!
October 12th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
OK SO….
Fat Kidd Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………WIN
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….WIN
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..WIN
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..WIN
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..WIN
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK……………..LOSS
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………WIN
FINAL RECORD 11-5, Playoffs, maybe Superbowl fat kidd?
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………LOSS
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….LOSS
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..LOSS
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..LOSS
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..LOSS
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK……………..WIN
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………LOSS
FINAL RECORD 6-11, Cable out, Hue in. Top 10 bust pick again LMN?
HERE’S MY PREDICTIONS, I’VE BEEN POSTING WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN UP TO THE BYE, AFTER THAT ANYTHING GOES, BUT I’LL TAKE A CRACK AT IT FOR FUN AND GAMES…
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………WIN
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………LOSS
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….WIN
RECORD AT BYE 5-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..WIN
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..LOSS
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..LOSS
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK………………LOSS
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………WIN
FINAL RECORD 8-8, MISS PLAYOFFS, KEEP CABLE (MAYBE), NAMNDI IS GONE, POSSIBLE TRADE TO GET A FIRST ROUNDER BACK, BUSH TRADED AS WELL, GRAD GONE, TK GONE, CJ GONE, CHAZ ONE MORE GO AROUND, INJURED WHILE CUTTING TOE NAILS, BUT STILL ON 53 ROSTER FOR 2011.
FEEL FREE TO ADD…
October 12th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Also noticed how 3 out of the next 4 games are home games, yes, I’m counting the SF game a home game. If you count the last two games vs Hou and SD that’s 5 out of 6 games being home games before the bye. Then after the bye we go to Pits and then come back and play Mia in Oak. So technically, that’s 6 out of 8 games being home games. Man, I wish we were a good home team, and won at home alot more often…
October 12th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I’m with most who have sited the real importance of jumping out to an early lead and pressuring the hell out of Smith.
I think Singletary’s act may already have worn out with his players and if we can jump out to a big early lead — big if — the wheels are coming completely off that wagon.
And this is certainly the game they insert Carr if things aren’t going well for them. Gotta dial up the pressure on him as well.
My fear is that if Campbell starts how will he do against their attacking pressure.
If Grads is healthy and plays 60 mins …
Raiders 31, 49ers 16
If Campbell plays all/most of the game …
A crapshoot. 17-13, someone.
October 12th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
This is a different team we have to wait and see how they will respond, that game when we lost to AZ on a FG miss. Took a lot out of this team and they got it together and beat a great team so now let’s see how the play vs SF.
They’re learning how to win games and all we can do is see if they’re ready to do that. Now IMO if we can run and stop Frank Gore this will be a win at the very least much easier. THey have to get Gore going because the last thing they want is to put this game in Smiths hands to win.
I heard a on the radio today that the Texans eventhough they beat us were very complimentary of this team. So it is a different team, that hasn’t happened much lately. So now we’ll see if their ready.
October 12th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
I think you are really missing the boat on Campbell if what he did Sunday didn’t impress you then maybe you don’t want to be impressed by him. It’s personal and that is crazy IMO. You don’t go out and beat a team of that calibre the way he did and can’t handle the 49ers pressure I think SD has a much betetr defense so all this he can’t do this or that is crap because he did it.
October 12th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Man, how many Grad homers are there in the world? Look, the wheels fell off the damn Pittsburgh win the minute Quinn beat up on them. For all this crap about fire and energy, he’s still 0-2 as a starter. Put a skirt on him and give him a pair of pom poms because he hasn’t done that much to warrant this lovefest thats going on. Yeah, Kubiak spoke so highly of him but left out the part where he dumped the Great Gradkowski for Craig Nall, the future HOFer. You can pick JC apart all you want. Both QBs deserve criticism but you sound like a damn fool trying to make a career backup into the next great thing. He sure as hell isn’t Gannon. Gannon came in and started games and won them before he played here. He played complete games against good defenses and guess what, he won.
Bruce hasn’t started a half season and he’s been friggin injured twice. How the hell do you injure BOTH knees in a game is beyond me. Pretty soon, he and Cable will be doing a replay of the Nolan-Smith “I have a big owweee and that’s why I suck”. Get real. If you don’t like JC, that’s cool. It’s frigging America and you’re welcome to your opinion. But don’t try to reference an 0-2 QB who’s more fragile than my daughter as the savior. You sound stupid when you do.
October 12th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Yes, I think we need to be objective and say BG and JC are pretty close to a draw. Give credit to Jason Campbell for leading us to 2 big TD drives! The QB position should be the least of our concerns right now. I want to see a complete game by the defense this week!
October 12th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Amen Beach!!
some of these guy’s just have personal agendas, it’s not about winning it’s about being right.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
BenRaiderfan Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Man, how many Grad homers are there in the world? Look, the wheels fell off the damn Pittsburgh win the minute Quinn beat up on them. For all this crap about fire and energy, he’s still 0-2 as a starter. Put a skirt on him and give him a pair of pom poms because he hasn’t done that much to warrant this lovefest thats going on. Yeah, Kubiak spoke so highly of him but left out the part where he dumped the Great Gradkowski for Craig Nall, the future HOFer. You can pick JC apart all you want. Both QBs deserve criticism but you sound like a damn fool trying to make a career backup into the next great thing. He sure as hell isn’t Gannon. Gannon came in and started games and won them before he played here. He played complete games against good defenses and guess what, he won.
Bruce hasn’t started a half season and he’s been friggin injured twice. How the hell do you injure BOTH knees in a game is beyond me. Pretty soon, he and Cable will be doing a replay of the Nolan-Smith “I have a big owweee and that’s why I suck”. Get real. If you don’t like JC, that’s cool. It’s frigging America and you’re welcome to your opinion. But don’t try to reference an 0-2 QB who’s more fragile than my daughter as the savior. You sound stupid when you do.
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You listening fAig? Post of the day.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
BenRaiderfan – Grads latest injury was caused by him taking risks. What can you say…the guy has a heart bigger than his body can handle. He shouldn’t take on defenders like that. He’s already proven himself already as a balls to the walls kind of guy. As for your insult about him putting on a skirt. Come on, man. Really? You’re gonna call out a guy that lays everything he has out there on the field? Look, I agree with your point about not anointing him the next Gannon before he does anything but you need to back off with that. Grads doesn’t slide butt first with nobody within 5 yards.
Fact is, Grads is the best option right now. Need proof of that? The head coach and coordinator both agree he is the starter.
JC did a pretty decent job coming off the bench and didn’t make any mistakes. But he still has to work on getting the ball downfield.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
LOL. I just love it when people proclaim “post of the day”. Yes, you are the ultimate authority on the best post of the day. LOL!
October 12th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Beach – good post. I agree. The defense is the biggest concern right now. AAnd frankly, that pass defense has me worried.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Amen Beach!!
some of these guy’s just have personal agendas, it’s not about winning it’s about being right.
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You mean like Mistic? That guy has JC slated as a HOF QB. Calling Grads all kinds of cute insults to try to further his agenda. You have criticisms, fine. Leave the insults at home.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
well anybody who supports jc is called a homer by aig. its been explained to us by him what that means. grads shouldnt play less than 100% so jc will get his time to shine and he better do it to save his career. all this talk of not trusting wrs needs to stop. he will not produce enuff points avoiding the wrs. he needs to let it rip or we will be seeing boller who will.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Alex Smith aint Rivers and those WR’s aren’t as good as those kids for SD yes they have a great TE but so do we. I think my point aboiut Grads is I think he’s reading his press clippings and playing to the crowd because both those runs were sand I saw a QB in stupid not fiery not gutsy STUPID. Just play within yourself and move the team so we can win. He may be the best option at QB right now but really how long will that last? I saw in Campbell a QB who’s got what it takes to win bigtime games. That’s all that matters
Anything else is just personal
I think Campbell upside is higher than Grads if he can work and continue to improve he can be a very good player. Now we have to wait and see if he will but I definitely see that potential.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Anyone in here break down the D-line play? I know we have some folks in here that watch and re-watch the game. What I saw was Shaunessy holding his own both against the rush and in the passing game (sack/fumble). Hope this kid gets another chance this week to show us what he can do. Thought he held it down pretty well but anyone have a different opinion?
October 12th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
TSR,
The skirt thing might be a little bit harsh, although I’ve said the same thing about him myself. But I wouldn’t exactly call the guy tough. It would be different if he managed to play effectively through the pain, but the guy always has to come out. C’mon man the guy is a china doll. That makes him stupid for not sliding, not courageous. You’ve got to admnit, your praise of this guy has always been a little over the top.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Armond, I agree man. If Grads isn’t 100%, let him sit. Was talking with someone yesterday about this. It’s a shame he was out there to start the 2nd half, injured as he was. Not sure if that was the coaches decision or Grads again just exhibiting a little too much heart.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
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October 12th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
trs shawny should never been on the bench. he started the whole preseason and then they have scott replace him which was stupid. i would like to see wimbley at de and just have him rush the passer. dont care how small he is that dude is a natural de who closes in on the qb. our oline has to control those lbs when they blitz but also in the running game. if there was ever a time to attack a defense its now. aside from mays that sf 2ndary is slow and gullible. theyre physical but some double moves will beat them. i would attack them early.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Nah, I don’t think my praise is over the top at all. I haven’t proclaimed he was the best thing since sliced bread. What I have stated is that he’s our best option and seems to get the guys on offense to play. That he gets the WRs involved and makes decisions quicker than JC. That was my opinion and it stands today. I’ve seen him make plays that JC would fold under the same circumstances. Case in point is the 2nd to last 1st down our offense got at the end of the Rams game. Blitzer came up the middle completely unblocked. Grads knew exactly where he wanted to go and lofted it to the left sideline before Murphy even made his cut. First Down! Then DMAC took care of the next 1st down. I’m convinced based on what I saw from JC in his 1st 6 quarters, that it would have been a sack and punt with the Rams having a chance to steal the game.
Now, that being said, I’m not above admitting hat JC had a solid game this past Sunday. Look, I hope that every single player on this roster succeeds and if JC can make strides, we’re the better for it. But I’m also not gonna put blinders on and pretend he’s better just because we traded for him in the hopes of being our starter. Prove it on the field. And he made strides this past game, no doubt. Heck, even he admitted that sitting was good for him and he improved his approach.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Are you confusing heart with “I don’t want to lose my job” and I do think he wants to show the fans how grity he is and that is not an act. But I think he knows that JC was the starter before the season started and if he stays in there over a 3-4 game period I don’t think Grads gets that job back.
As far as our Dline I think the praise the Texans had for that unit says it all. I heard they raved about the Dline and the defense overall. As for Shaughnessy I think that kid has greatness in him. He is very stout against the run and has very good pass rush skills and as he gets better I think there are a few probowls in his future.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Amen Beach!!
some of these guy’s just have personal agendas, it’s not about winning it’s about being right.
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isn’t that u? how many times did team lose under JR, where that didn’t matter to you? all that matter is jr playin?
or bey? team lost, bey sucked, but wasn’t about winnin to you, was about being right.
except u were wrong
October 12th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
But I think he knows that JC was the starter before the season started and if he stays in there over a 3-4 game period I don’t think Grads gets that job back.
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u don’t like white qbs, do you?
u thought aaron brooks deserved another chance, didnt u?
October 12th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
if there was ever a time to attack a defense its now. aside from mays that sf 2ndary is slow and gullible. theyre physical but some double moves will beat them. i would attack them early.
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Couldn’t agree more. Their CBs, especially Nate Clements, seem susceptible.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
cable said grads thought he could give it a go so they let him try. dude didnt show any brains going heads up with lbs and safeties especially with his throwing shoulder. i believe he has start believing in his press clippings and all the bruce chants. callin him bruce almighty without accomplishing much was stupid. its not like he was throwin 3-4 td passes a game helping us average 30+ points a game. he missed zach a few times in arizona and dhb murphy once a piece. i dont care which guy takes the job i just want a guy to play at a high level. we need a qb that will make plays to give us a big lead throughout the game.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Nah, I don’t think my praise is over the top at all. I haven’t proclaimed he was the best thing since sliced bread. What I have stated is that he’s our best option and seems to get the guys on offense to play. That he gets the WRs involved and makes decisions quicker than JC. That was my opinion and it stands today. I’ve seen him make plays that JC would fold under the same circumstances. Case in point is the 2nd to last 1st down our offense got at the end of the Rams game. Blitzer came up the middle completely unblocked. Grads knew exactly where he wanted to go and lofted it to the left sideline before Murphy even made his cut. First Down! Then DMAC took care of the next 1st down. I’m convinced based on what I saw from JC in his 1st 6 quarters, that it would have been a sack and punt with the Rams having a chance to steal the game.
Now, that being said, I’m not above admitting hat JC had a solid game this past Sunday. Look, I hope that every single player on this roster succeeds and if JC can make strides, we’re the better for it. But I’m also not gonna put blinders on and pretend he’s better just because we traded for him in the hopes of being our starter. Prove it on the field. And he made strides this past game, no doubt. Heck, even he admitted that sitting was good for him and he improved his approach.
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You haven’t heard me on here tooting JC’s horn. You know I think JR should have gotten a chance to save his career. But Sunday’s game swayed me a little. The two TD drives he lead came in pressure-packed situations, when we had to make plays. In front of a crowd that wants Grads in there against a top-tier team. He never really came close to making a mistake. It’s hard for me to imagine Grads doing that in the same situation. Plus the Grads always plays with house money, as is evidenced on this board. We’re 0-2 in his two starts and all I hear is blame passed on to everyone else. Quite a change from last year when JR was blamed for everything wrong in the world.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
priesttj Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Are you confusing heart with “I don’t want to lose my job” and I do think he wants to show the fans how grity he is and that is not an act. But I think he knows that JC was the starter before the season started and if he stays in there over a 3-4 game period I don’t think Grads gets that job back.
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This is a very good point Priest. We shouldn’t confuse “heart” for being afraid Campbell leads the team to a win and takes the job back.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
You haven’t heard me on here tooting JC’s horn. You know I think JR should have gotten a chance to save his career. But Sunday’s game swayed me a little. The two TD drives he lead came in pressure-packed situations, when we had to make plays. In front of a crowd that wants Grads in there against a top-tier team. He never really came close to making a mistake. It’s hard for me to imagine Grads doing that in the same situation. Plus the Grads always plays with house money, as is evidenced on this board. We’re 0-2 in his two starts and all I hear is blame passed on to everyone else. Quite a change from last year when JR was blamed for everything wrong in the world.
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Debo, those TD drives when we needed them most were solid, no doubt. But saying that Grads is 0-2 isn’t fair at all. First off, while he didn’t start the Rams game, clearly…CLEARLY…he was a big part of our turnaround in the 2nd half. Using the term “starts” is a technicality that you’re throwing in there just to make sure his record start with a 0. As for the Arizona game, look I’m not one to make excuses but dude. Come on. 3 missed FGs? Let’s get real here, Debo. The team was in position to win with a gimme FG at the end. Let’s call a spade a spade.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Speaking of fire, I like McClain’s fire. I just have to laugh thinking back to his salute on Sunday. I hope this kid will be a rock in the middle there for us. Didn’t seem too solid in coverage on Sunday.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
OK I’ve plowed through most of the comments here …A very spirited debate I must say.
However, let me set the record straight here:
Campbell did an OK job, but he still refuses to let the ball go and play the game at the speed it should be played. He was bailed out plently of times vs SD with his teammates getting the necessary YAC for the 1st down.
For the life of me I cannot understand why he dumps the ball off (well short of the yard stick) on 3rd downs and not to his WRs or players beyond the yard sticks – but his teammates bailed him out more than once during the game.
IF his teammates did not get the YAC you all would be pissin’ mad! Trust me, I was just discomforted watching it even as they got the 1st down because I knew we were missing other opportunties downfield.
For example, a dump off to MBush on 3rd down thrown well short of the sticks should have been a TD pass to DHB who was running open on the same side of the field. (I think we got a FG out of this drive, I think).
Campbell only took 1 shot downfield that I remember – that was the pass to a WIDE OPEN Reece (he had about 2 steps) but Campbell’s ball was off causing what should have been a TD catch into a near catch only if Reece dragged his feet.
Campbell has to get into his head to let the damn ball go and engage his WRs in route if he wants to be the long term answer at QB. The coaches won’t continue to put up with the dumpoffs and neither will the fans beyond a certain point.
What you saw last week was a guy that continues to dumpoff but only this time the team got the necessary YAC to keep the Offense moving. He only threw to WRs (or Reece for that matter) when they were WIDE and I mean WIDE open and that is not good enough to be successful in this league.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Oh, and now that you mentioned Miller, solid return. I thought he was gonna get pasted when he didn’t call fair catch but he made that first guy miss and sprinted through that seam. lol. nice. I want to see more out of this guy.
October 12th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Debo, those TD drives when we needed them most were solid, no doubt. But saying that Grads is 0-2 isn’t fair at all. First off, while he didn’t start the Rams game, clearly…CLEARLY…he was a big part of our turnaround in the 2nd half. Using the term “starts” is a technicality that you’re throwing in there just to make sure his record start with a 0. As for the Arizona game, look I’m not one to make excuses but dude. Come on. 3 missed FGs? Let’s get real here, Debo. The team was in position to win with a gimme FG at the end. Let’s call a spade a spade.
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Here’s my problem with the Arizona game man. The missed FGs were bad, but remember: One of the misses was from 58 yards, and he hit one from 55. In the end though, who cares? The Arizona game reminded me a lot of the Cincy game last year and Sunday’s game. Arizona handed the game to us on a silver platter. It should have never come down to a FG. We should have led comfortably in that game. Just because Grads got us into FG range doesn’t mean he put us in position to win. Janikowski still had to go out there and hit the damn thing. We got way too many breaks in that game to lose it, or win it by two freakin points for that matter.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:02 am
IF his teammates did not get the YAC you all would be pissin’ mad! Trust me, I was just discomforted watching it even as they got the 1st down because I knew we were missing other opportunties downfield.
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I agree Terapin and good point, man. Another good example is Zach Miller making 2 or 3 guys miss to get that first down.
Yeah, it was pretty much the Reece pass and the one to Murphy, which was a good throw, for sure. But you should read Mistic’s comments from yesterday. Guy had me rolling with laughter. Said that JC beat the Chargers the Raider way, with deep passing. LMAO! What game was that clown watching? Did he confuse JC with Rivers? LOL
October 13th, 2010 at 12:03 am
JC’s stats are goosed. I think everyone is seeing that now. As it was mentioned by some before how his stats were goosed in Washington because he always dumped it off. Sht I can have a high QB rating doing that making this statistic almost meaningless.
JC can be a very good QB for this team but only if he gives way to the coaching and attacks downfield (but not recklessly mind you). You can just see the hesitation on the field. You know he sees it but he just won’t throw it.
I hope he does learn to let it go, but his comments don’t encourage me.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Does anyone know if NFL.com is going to show the game again? They had it yesterday. Only for one day?
October 13th, 2010 at 12:08 am
T’pin
To your own point that he doesn’t throw downfield, he threw downfield to Reece but because it wasn’t complete your not giving him credit for it. It’s still a pass downfield. I’m not saying JC is a great QB I don’t know but I see potential there. I couldn’t care less what he did in DC this is not DC I care what he does here. So far he was extremely disappointing to start the season. But Sunday was a huge answer for what he possesses as a starter. We don’t have Brett Farve waiting in the wings.
As far as I can see JC is as good a player as we have, if he can get better I’m all for it. If not we move on simple as that. I’m not in love with the guy but I think he can win bigtime ballgames because he just did it. That performance he gave Sunday we haven’t had in 5 years. I want t see if he can raise his level of play he’s still a young QB and sometimes a fresh start is all a guy needs.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:10 am
One of the misses was from 58 yards
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Ok, disregard that miss. But what about the other 2? Add those 2 FGs with the Kick return TD and that’s a 13 point differential right there.
Our offense was pretty good in that game. We just had trouble punching it in. Go ahead and roast him for that if you like but there were plenty of other factors that contributed to that loss. The offense got over 350 yards and looked pretty decent.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:12 am
As opposed to the SD game where the offense was spotted 12 points by the special teams. You have to look at it objectively. With fans, the QB tends to be the hero when the team wins and the fall guy when they lose. But it’s a team game, ST and Defense play large roles as well.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:12 am
Where do you guys get the energy, man? LOL. Al’s going to do what he wants, no matter how much we analyze. I would like to watch that game, though. NFL.com was showing it for free yesterday.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Try Some Reality Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 12:12 am
As opposed to the SD game where the offense was spotted 12 points by the special teams. You have to look at it objectively. With fans, the QB tends to be the hero when the team wins and the fall guy when they lose. But it’s a team game, ST and Defense play large roles as well.
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I agree with this. But that never seemed to apply with JR. And it didn’t apply when JC lost against the Titans. There’s this double-standard with Grads that’s really annoying. He get’s all the credit for the Cincy game last year, but we spread the blame for the Cards and Texans. Just be consistent.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Preisttj
I’m definitely not discrediting him for taking the shot at Reece. That was not my intent. What I was saying, if you read it over, was he would only take a shot when the said player is so wide open there is not much of a chance that he misses or gets it intercepted. In short, I’m saying he is much too conservative.
I don’t think you can rely on this kind of “openness” game in, game out. Rivers, for example, had to complete some VERY tough catches where the window was thin (take Gates TD catch between two defenders for example – that is a pass Campbell seems to not want to even try but you have to take your chances and leave it up to your players to make the play).
Campbell just prefers to dump it off. I’m sayin you cannot score a lot of points that way and you will not win a lot of games either. You WILL get the DC experience of mediocre years (not to say this is a bad thing for Raider Nation at this point in time).
October 13th, 2010 at 12:20 am
RMR-
http://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/servlets/inmarket?id=OAK&icampaign=OAK_Blackout_w5_ROS
October 13th, 2010 at 12:21 am
Incidently all this hew and cry about him checking down, Rich Gannon was MR CHECKDOWN that’s all he did he rarely ever threw the ball downfield Gruden’s offense was as boring as it could be that’s all they ever did was checkdown. It freakin drove me crazy and it’s the very reason I don’t want Gruden back here. Yet Gannon took us to the SB.
JC is a high % passer Garcia and Joe Montana were checkdown passers maybe right now if he can keep the chains moving and score points that is exactly what we need to get the confidence of this team going. We all know he can throw deep and as Hujack works with him maybe he gets much better. WHO KNOWS!!
But I just don’t see that as that bad of an attribute in fact I see it as a strength until this team is ready for the rest of his ability to develope.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:21 am
As opposed to the SD game where the offense was spotted 12 points by the special teams.
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It’s true they spotted us 12 points. But the bottom line is they came back to lead by 9 and JC brought us back in what turned out to be somewhat of a shootout in the second half.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Hue pulled Campbell because Campbell wasn’t attacking the defense – hence he wasn’t scoring any pts. He was leaving too much on the field. Grads came in and the whole dynamic of the offense changed. Ram’s coach even complimented Cable for bringing Grads in the game (i.e. clue).
The dirt balls, the dump offs, the throwaays – you saw it all again vs SD.
We won, which is great, thanks to a team effort. But you simply cannot continue this method of play if you want long term success. This is all I want. Campbell has to realize this and get with it or sit the pine as he WILL get pulled again if he doesn’t.
I want Campbell to be the guy. I want him to succeed but I know he won’t if he won’t ‘let it go’.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:27 am
So I’d like to ask you JC supporters something here.
1. Find 1 post this week from me that said JC sucked on Sunday! I dare you to find one and I will be glad to apologize for it. There aint one.
2. I said over and over again JC was ok. If that means I hate JC then so be it.
3. You are a bunch of homers. JC did ok. He didnt throw for 300 yds and led us to 35 points. However, I am most certain 2 years from now some of you will tell others that he led us to 35 points last Sunday.
4. You guys want to crown him king of Raider Nation go on ahead. It’s kinda like Jawalrus lovers touting his KC performance last year based on 1 drive.
5. Someone was bashing Bruce’s 0-2. Great. How did JC do when he started this year in Tenn?
150 yds passing with the rest of the team providing 18 points and we’re acting like the guy put the offense on his back. A bunch homers!
October 13th, 2010 at 12:32 am
LOL! Watching the replay right now. Just love watching the Charger ST coach get all red faced and yelling at his guys after that second block.
And I forgot just how dialed in our D was for those first two Charger possessions.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:32 am
We don’t win that game without JC’s performance why is that so difficult for soem of you to admit. If it were Grads it would be all time great p[erformances in the history of the world.
What is it that you don’t like about JC is it he’s black or looks too much like Russell or what?
Now to knock Gradkowski because that is just as wrong but this anti Campbell sentiment is crazy. What did he do that was so bad that he has to be ostricised. The guy has been here all of 15 minutes and people hate him. What is that? he may take us to the playoffs then what? I just think it’s crazy t react this way t this kid when he hasn’t done anything to deserve it.
Some of you really ned to check yourselves. Because there are some deep seeded issues going on here…………period
October 13th, 2010 at 12:34 am
Shaunnessy playing like an absolute beast!
October 13th, 2010 at 12:36 am
priesttj Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 12:21 am
Incidently all this hew and cry about him checking down, Rich Gannon was MR CHECKDOWN that’s all he did he rarely ever threw the ball downfield Gruden’s offense was as boring as it could be that’s all they ever did was checkdown. It freakin drove me crazy and it’s the very reason I don’t want Gruden back here. Yet Gannon took us to the SB.
JC is a high % passer Garcia and Joe Montana were checkdown passers maybe right now if he can keep the chains moving and score points that is exactly what we need to get the confidence of this team going. We all know he can throw deep and as Hujack works with him maybe he gets much better. WHO KNOWS!!
But I just don’t see that as that bad of an attribute in fact I see it as a strength until this team is ready for the rest of his ability to develope.
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Priest – I have to take many issues with these comments.
Didn’t Gannon take us to the SB under Callahan who to popular/common belief ‘took the riegns off Chucky’s offense’?
The offenses that Garcia and Montana ran were more WC style offense that used short stuff plenty. Prob more so than Hue’s offense requires. Hue’s offense seems to require the QB to be willing to attack much more than Campbell will committ to.
I think this team is ready now. Grads coming in for Campbell showed me all I needed to see. The WRs are ready to play and get better. Campbell just doesn’t use them. Quite frankly, this is wasting away talent and tarding growth not passing them the ball. If Campb uses all of his weapons we win game running away. Thats all I’m asking of him. Thats all the coaches ask of him I would assume.
You seem to believe Camp needs or will develop more …I cannot be so confident. He has been in the league for years and has been showing the same results.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Poorly called blitzes left our D vulnerable at times. Letting WRs run completely free. Only takes Rivers a half second to find the guy running free.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Playing the race card because of criticism Priest? Typical.
What I dont get is why do you guys act like the man just put our O on his back or something? Loper saved his a$$ if I recall on that 3rd down fumble play. JC produced 17 points and the team produced 18 points. Yet you want to say JC was more important. Give me a break.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Priest – did you really just criticize our top ranked offense during the Gruden years? Dude, Gannon broke records here!
October 13th, 2010 at 12:39 am
If it were Grads it would be all time great p[erformances in the history of the world.
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So true. I can only imagine what fAig would be saying if Grads had done the exact same thing against SD. He’d probably propose to the guy.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:39 am
Absolutely he did. Why? Because he wants us all to bow to the new King JC aka Black Moses II.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:40 am
I am black so that card doesn’t fly here. I’m just calling it how I see it.
I hope JC does great. I hope and I support him. But you can’t continue to support bad decisions for long. If he wants to be THE answer then work the offense as it requires to be worked.
Maybe he will be the answer. Who knows.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Deborah,
Keep trying.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:42 am
outro
October 13th, 2010 at 12:42 am
T’pin
This team is not ready now, I kow that may cme as a shock but it isn’t the passing game has a ways to go. With or witout Grads that’s the facts I was not extatic about what I saw from Grads to be honest. He left too many points off the board. Had he been nearly as good as soem think he is we would be 4-1…………..period
But he’s ayoung QB and still learning, this pass offense has a long way to go. Hujack is calling plays and big gains are there but both QB’s are missing them……….period
As I said we don’t have Brett Farve standing on the sidelines we have a couple of guy’s struggling to make thing work, thse are the facts.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:45 am
As I said we don’t have Brett Farve standing on the sidelines we have a couple of guy’s struggling to make thing work, thse are the facts.
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Other than Buffalo, Carolina and SF, we may have the worst QB situation in the league.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:45 am
Terrapin,
I’m a minority and I fcking hate homers (esp reverse racism). It’s obvious there are folks out there that want to see Black QB’s do well. I can understand that. However, they way over do it. I thought JC would do well here. I was happy because it can’t get any worse than Jalwarus. Then I watched the preseason and crap the Skins fans’ complaints were dead on.
I went back and looked at the play by play log for all of JC’s play in the preseason and reg season. I think the most he ever completed to WR’s were 4 passes in one game. We cannot go into a game playing 9 or 10 vs 11. This weekend we will see 2 exactly the same QB’s. they both got great ability but they lack the ability to let it go. Chris Collinsworth broke it down perfectly on Sunday nite.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:45 am
But before I go: HUE JACKSON is the MAN!
This offense is highly capable of scoring well over 20pts per game ….maybe even 30 if they are hitting on all cylinders
(but you won’t get that kind of production from this offense if you do not use your WRs ..hint)
October 13th, 2010 at 12:47 am
Congrats to Ray on his prediction,never believed i’d see it happen.Time to go eat my hat,lol
October 13th, 2010 at 12:49 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 12:45 am
But before I go: HUE JACKSON is the MAN!
This offense is highly capable of scoring well over 20pts per game ….maybe even 30 if they are hitting on all cylinders
(but you won’t get that kind of production from this offense if you do not use your WRs ..hint)
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Just remember, the lack of production from the WRs has come the last TWO weeks. Grads started against Houston. Let’s make sure he gets some criticism too.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:50 am
If not for Lamarr Houston’s bearhug, Mitchell takes that fumble recovery on the 1 all the way for 6!
October 13th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Grads had his issues vs AZ but they still had the chance to win it in the end if not for Jano’s horrific performance. So although against lighter compo, under Grads the team should have beaten both STL & AZ and this team would have been 3-2 now. Just the facts.
out
October 13th, 2010 at 12:52 am
BenRaiderfan Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Man, how many Grad homers are there in the world? Look, the wheels fell off the damn Pittsburgh win the minute Quinn beat up on them.
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dude, you do realize it was Charlie Frye that started against Quinn right? Know your facts before you talk shyctt dummie.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:53 am
Gannon broke records under Callahan not Gruden, when Gruden left he was MVP of the league. I said that’s why I don’t want Gruden back here his offense is pedestrian. Marc Trestman changed it to a high powered aggressive attack and at that point Gannon could handle it but Gannon under Gruden was BORING!!
T’pin I know you’re black that wasn’t meant for you. I just think JC is still growing as a QB and we need to allow for that. So is Gradkowski for that matter.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Deborah,
Did you realize that Houston’s weakest link this year was defending the TE coming into the raider game? Did you not bother to read all the analysts predicting Miller should have a big game? I doubt you knew that. That is why Miller had a career game against them. Try reading more often.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:56 am
But we didn’t beat them, which is a fact we were 1-3 for a reason and I’m not saying it was Grads fault but Iam saying he couldn’t get us over the hump. If he could’ve he would’ve.
October 13th, 2010 at 12:58 am
So Priest,
Based on your logic, we should credit JC with the D’s final turnover then right? What is wrong with you people?
JC did ok for us last Sunday.
Grad has done good things for us since he has been a Raider.
WTF is wrong with you people.
October 13th, 2010 at 1:00 am
AIG then you’re going to have to HATE me because I’m a Raiders HOMER pure and simple. So keep hating because that is exactly who I am.
October 13th, 2010 at 1:03 am
1. I stand corrected.
2. Oh so because Quinn beat Pitt, we shouldnt count it. IC. So Bengals beat the Ravens twice last year, then does that count for something when we beat them with Grad? I know you guys would never give him credit for that one.
October 13th, 2010 at 1:04 am
Priest,
Of course you are. I know you’re a homer for a long time now. Just calling it like it is.
October 13th, 2010 at 1:06 am
2. Oh so because Quinn beat Pitt, we shouldnt count it. IC. So Bengals beat the Ravens twice last year, then does that count for something when we beat them with Grad? I know you guys would never give him credit for that one.
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Make up your mind. If he gets the credit for the Cincy win last, he gets the blame for the Aizona and Houston losses. You can’t have it both ways.
October 13th, 2010 at 3:30 am
# EMRaiders Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 12th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………LOSS
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….LOSS
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..LOSS
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..LOSS
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..LOSS
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK……………..WIN
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………LOSS
FINAL RECORD 6-11, Cable out, Hue in. Top 10 bust pick again LMN?
HERE’S MY PREDICTIONS, I’VE BEEN POSTING WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN UP TO THE BYE, AFTER THAT ANYTHING GOES, BUT I’LL TAKE A CRACK AT IT FOR FUN AND GAMES…
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF……………….WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………WIN
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………LOSS
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK……………….WIN
RECORD AT BYE 5-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 Bye ……………………….TIE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT……………..LOSS
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK……………..WIN
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ……………..LOSS
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC……………..LOSS
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK……………..WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK………………LOSS
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC………………WIN
FINAL RECORD 8-8, MISS PLAYOFFS, KEEP CABLE (MAYBE), NAMNDI IS GONE, POSSIBLE TRADE TO GET A FIRST ROUNDER BACK, BUSH TRADED AS WELL, GRAD GONE, TK GONE, CJ GONE, CHAZ ONE MORE GO AROUND, INJURED WHILE CUTTING TOE NAILS, BUT STILL ON 53 ROSTER FOR 2011.
FEEL FREE TO ADD…
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well I have to correct you, that would be 6-10 and not 6-11… And I said before pre-season I thought we would go 6-10, but hey, we have improved each year, maybe only one game per year, but still, this way we will be undefeated in 2020, LOL…
Regarding the pick, its NE’s not ours, we gave it away for Seymour.. but that means at least the rest of our picks are high in each round LOL…
regarding Indy, I believe we will win, because, the dont have a run-game, they dont have a run-defence, they are a pass team, and we have quite some pass-rushers and a pass-defence… so I think we actually could do it… but still 6-10, cable out and adding another dimvit puppet as HC and so on, we all know the drill by know..
October 13th, 2010 at 4:25 am
ding dong the which is dead…Gillett and Hicks is gone!!
October 13th, 2010 at 4:26 am
ding dong the witch is dead…Gillett and Hicks is gone!!
Hah!
October 13th, 2010 at 4:40 am
I can’t wait for this Sunday’s game. If we want to make the playoffs we have to take advantage of these NFC west teams. It would be nice to blow a team out for once, but I’ll just settle for a W.
October 13th, 2010 at 4:41 am
Gotta beat the Niners they have Jamarcus I mean Alex Smith at Qb how many years are they going to give him , that fumble that he just dropped and Eagle ran in for a TD would Russell a run for his money.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
October 13th, 2010 at 5:24 am
LOL at people referencing Brady Quinn and the Browns win over Pittsburgh last year to take some of the shine of Bruce’s victory over the Steelers.
I certainly get it that the Steelers D was nowhere near what their D is today or in the Super Bowl years.
But referencing Brady Quinn “beating up on the them” is comical.
In that game, Quinn was………..
6-19 for 90 yards O TD’s 1 INT and sacked 6 times, not to mention it was in Cleveland.
October 13th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JFB, NMF, LMN, Boston…top of the morning (afternoon for you LMN) to ya!
October 13th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Morning Hwnrdr.
Let’s go get Singletary fired this weekend!!
October 13th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Texans kick tires on a couple of quarterbacks
Posted by Mike Florio on October 12, 2010 8:16 PM ET
Though the Houston Texans have three quarterbacks under contract, they spent part of Tuesday eyeballing two more.
Per a league source, Colt Brennan and Jarrett Brown tried out for the team on Tuesday.
The intentions aren’t clear, but it could mean that Matt Leinart or Dan Orlovsky are on shaky ground.
October 13th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Morning Hwnrdr.
Let’s go get Singletary fired this weekend!!
That would be FN AWESOME!
October 13th, 2010 at 5:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.MAKE THAT A STIPULATION TO THE GAME..LOSING COACH GETS FIRED.
October 13th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Even better Dirt Lot…but who will take over for us? Hue? Marshall? Sanjai? Ok, I’ll stop but just wondering…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 5:24 am
LOL at people referencing Brady Quinn and the Browns win over Pittsburgh last year to take some of the shine of Bruce’s victory over the Steelers.
I certainly get it that the Steelers D was nowhere near what their D is today or in the Super Bowl years.
But referencing Brady Quinn “beating up on the them” is comical.
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Thats almost as bad as the beating I gave you… LOL
Couldnt resist.
October 13th, 2010 at 6:05 am
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…………….there has not been this many latins pulled from a hole since madonna”s last visit to the gynecologist……..
October 13th, 2010 at 6:08 am
fatty, you’re disgusting
… but still more mature and respectful than Armond
October 13th, 2010 at 6:13 am
What was that rant about Rockstar? Wow…on an internet blog…
And sick, but funny Fats…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Good Morning btw…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:19 am
mcfaddens going to play this week right
October 13th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Armond says:
whats your point aig? yeah there were several racist comments about jamarcus from the time we drafted him. his people down in alabama was even called porch monkies by rrs when that article about them disliking the raiders came out after he was cut.
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Rockstar says:
don’t you ever try to put words in my mouth again you lying sack of crap!
can’t believe it.
the Raiders finally beat the Chargers and some clowns like Armond are wrapped up talking about racism and JaMarcus Russell!
Norko Bobby was the guy that hated JaWalrus since the draft, idiot.
turns out he was right too!
and for all of you who compared Jason Campbell to JaMoonpie … shut your traps. he delivered yesterday
Monday (10/11/2010)
October 13th, 2010 at 6:23 am
LADY’S & GENTS,THE NEXT HEAD COACH OF YOUR OAKLAND RAIDERS…AMY TRASK..ANOTHER 1ST FOR AL DAVIS, 1ST WOMAN H.C.IN NFL
October 13th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Hwnrdr: post # 577 was his response to Monday’s chat
this guy just attacks me out of the blue in a convo with AIG. stuff that isn’t true and really has no place on this blog imo
but I guess i’m too “ignorant” to remember what I did or didn’t say about JaFranchise 3 years ago!
October 13th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Too sad Rockstar…some people I tell ya…
Dirt Lot…I would not put it past Al Davis to do so!
October 13th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Think you’ve had rough day….?
One of the trapped Chilean miners just realised he didn’t clock in…!!
October 13th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Haha…hey now…we are the same age…(whoops, did I give that away…lol) and Trask can be his personal cougar…
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Dirt Lot: Amy Trask has a better chance at hooking up with Grandpa Favre than becoming Head Coach of the Oakland Raiders …
October 13th, 2010 at 6:27 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 6:23 am
LADY’S & GENTS,THE NEXT HEAD COACH OF YOUR OAKLAND RAIDERS…AMY TRASK..
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Only if she’s sleeping with the wintern.
October 13th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Think you’ve had rough day….?
One of the trapped Chilean miners just realised he didn’t clock in…!!
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LOL!
October 13th, 2010 at 6:36 am
Bruce is the starter (if healthy). same with Gallery
DMAC status unknown until later today
Nick Miller is your PR
Chaz will be ready by Week 16 – in time for the playoffs
anything else I missed yesterday ???
October 13th, 2010 at 6:37 am
1ST THING THOSE MINERS HEARD..GET A SHAVE-SHOWER AND A HAIRCUT,SEE U 2MORROW…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:42 am
1ST THING THOSE MINERS HEARD..GET A SHAVE-SHOWER AND A HAIRCUT,SEE U 2MORROW…
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I bet half of those guys opted for early retirement and the others have applied elsewhere
October 13th, 2010 at 6:48 am
predictions for Sunday?
does Banana have a list going yet ???
October 13th, 2010 at 6:48 am
if we traded bush and TK in a package what’s the best deal we would get
October 13th, 2010 at 6:49 am
What up NATION?
October 13th, 2010 at 6:49 am
popcicledrip Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 6:48 am
if we traded bush and TK in a package what’s the best deal we would get
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5th rounder for bush, bag of popcorn for TK
October 13th, 2010 at 6:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 6:48 am
predictions for Sunday?
does Banana have a list going yet ???
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what up Rock? I would like to see last weeks list. Want to see the names of all those who doubted…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:51 am
OAKLAND-31—S.F.-14
October 13th, 2010 at 6:52 am
We need Michael Bush & Tommy Kelly!
DMAC is hamstrung along with 12 other players
Seymour still isn’t 100 percent. Bryant sucks
October 13th, 2010 at 6:53 am
I would like to see last weeks list. Want to see the names of all those who doubted…
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me too Thec!
i’m guessing it’s pretty lengthy
side note: any of you guys had a bacon double butterburger at Culvers?
October 13th, 2010 at 6:54 am
DMAC is hamstrung along with 12 other players
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How many other teams have this as a major issue?
Its either the water, supplements, or trainer…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:54 am
does any think if we traded bush kelly and 3 round pick we could het vince wilfork
October 13th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Trade Bush? No…Kelly…well, yeah, we need him because no one else is around!
October 13th, 2010 at 6:55 am
side note: any of you guys had a bacon double butterburger at Culvers?
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sides like a cardiac waiting to happen….
October 13th, 2010 at 6:56 am
I WAS 1 WHO DOUBTED,BUT I HAVE BEEN SET FREE…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Thats almost as bad as the beating I gave you… LOL
Couldnt resist.
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I deserve it and can take it.
3/4 of the way through the morning games, I predicted I might lose by 100 points, and I was close!!
October 13th, 2010 at 6:57 am
I HAVE BEEN SET FREE
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Dirt Lot,
GET A SHAVE-SHOWER AND A HAIRCUT,SEE U 2MORROW…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:57 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 6:56 am
I WAS 1 WHO DOUBTED,BUT I HAVE BEEN SET FREE
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You are free indeed…
October 13th, 2010 at 6:58 am
So if campbell goes on a win streak, grads comes back who does tom and Hue start?
October 13th, 2010 at 6:59 am
I will beat Dakota in FF this week!
I won last week with Mendenhall & Ronnie Brown on bye weeks, Pierre Thomas OUT and Aaron Rodgers concussion-game.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:02 am
ROCKSTAR,U THINK THAT IS WHAT FAVRE TOLD THAT LADY THAT WORKS 4 THE JETS?
October 13th, 2010 at 7:03 am
I have won the last 2 weeks in Dell’s league …
the Podunk Express is picking up steam!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:04 am
U THINK THAT IS WHAT FAVRE TOLD THAT LADY THAT WORKS 4 THE JETS?
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LOL!
you never know
October 13th, 2010 at 7:08 am
If Campbell goes on a win streak, then I see no reason to put Grads back in…
October 13th, 2010 at 7:09 am
But…
October 13th, 2010 at 7:12 am
# hwnrdr Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JFB, NMF, LMN, Boston…top of the morning (afternoon for you LMN) to ya!
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Hawdy partner…
October 13th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Armond = class act
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Agreed!
One of the better semi pro’s on the payroll!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Need your help raider nation!!! So my brother is going up to candlestick for the game this weekend (from so.cal) and is staying in heyward..he’s taking the bart to balboa park and then some type of bus shuttle….is this what he should do? Or is there a better way to go? Any feedbacks appreciated. Go raiders!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:15 am
One of the better semi pro’s on the payroll!
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October 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
How’s this for those of you who are bashing Cable and talking about how stupid he is and how awful of a coach he is. This organization has had two opportunities for the season to go South in a big way. He knew it and his responses respectively were to….
—bench Campbell for Gradkowski
—send the house on Rivers with the lead
Cable is always labeled as a guy who is gritty and no nonsense but you know what his best virtue is? The rare ability to learn from a mistake and not make it twice.
LAST YEAR: Cable sat and watched JR last year crap away the season when he probably knew a switch was in line much earlier than when Russell got the hook.
THIS YEAR: With all discussions of skill and talent set aside Campbell wasn’t ready. He didn’t have the footwork or pocket presence to operate under Oakland’s shoddy line. Cable knew it and gave Campbell the hook. Good for him.
LAST YEAR: Cable saw Rivers and Sproles work underneath the soft, deep coverage of the LB’s to drive for a game winning TD in week 1.
THIS YEAR: He sends the house and is running press coverage even with an 8 point lead. Good for him.
You all know as well as I do there are critical points in games long before the fourth quarter that are greatly influential on whether a game is won or lost. The same goes for a season. For those who say, “That’s OK its only week 2″ are fools. You can say that if you’re Indy or Baltimore but not if you’re Oakland. I understand its the players who make the plays but its on the coach to put them in the position to make those plays and if Mike Huff is standing in the secondary in coverage that fumble never happens. Losses to St. Louis and San Diego could have ended the season. I don’t care how early it is.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
we should trade gallery 2 round pick and and ASO for mankins and willfork boom
October 13th, 2010 at 7:18 am
My predictions for the rest of the season:
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF…………………WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………WIN*
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK………………WIN
10 BYE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT………………WIN*
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK………………WIN
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ………………WIN*
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC………………WIN*
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK………………WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK………………WIN
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC…………………WIN
*Obviously, starred games are predicted wins that I wouldn’t put money on, if you catch my drift…
October 13th, 2010 at 7:19 am
RedneckRaider Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 7:18 am
My predictions for the rest of the season:
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF…………………WIN
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………WIN*
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK………………WIN
10 BYE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT………………WIN*
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK………………WIN
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ………………WIN*
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC………………WIN*
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK………………WIN
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK………………WIN
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC…………………WIN
*Obviously, starred games are predicted wins that I wouldn’t put money on, if you catch my drift…
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Also, 9-7 and probably playoffs
October 13th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Hey Jeff,
After literally sitting in a line of cars trying to get out of that darn parking lot for an hour and a half…that is the best way to go…trust me! I’m never going back to that crap hole!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:22 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Hey Jeff,
After literally sitting in a line of cars trying to get out of that darn parking lot for an hour and a half…that is the best way to go…trust me! I’m never going back to that crap hole!
Sorry…
Jeff Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Need your help raider nation!!! So my brother is going up to candlestick for the game this weekend (from so.cal) and is staying in heyward..he’s taking the bart to balboa park and then some type of bus shuttle….is this what he should do? Or is there a better way to go? Any feedbacks appreciated. Go raiders!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
How’s this for those of you who are bashing Cable and talking about how stupid he is and how awful of a coach he is.
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Cable is a guy off the street like either of us.
Bowling shirts and tattoo’s lol!
We need a real HC!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
hey hwnrdr,
Thanks man I figured that was the deal.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Drip,
Gallery
Asomugha
2nd Round pick
in exchange we get Mankins & Wilfork?
Bill Belly would make that deal in a heartbeat!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:29 am
bellicheck wouldn’t take the contract though..just sayin
October 13th, 2010 at 7:30 am
popcicledrip Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 6:54 am
does any think if we traded bush kelly and 3 round pick we could het vince wilfork
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Al went after Wilfork last year and a 1st rounder (what Bill probably thought would be a top 10) couldn’t get it done and Vince was complaining, wanted out of NE.
Al ended up with Seymour as a consolation prize.
No chance, Wilfork means too much to their D.
I would expect to see no trades from Al.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Where is that genius AIG???
LMFAO at this guy.
Asks for a response on Gardowski leaving points on the board, and doesn’t even know what the Gardowski leaving points on the board reference was about.
Still waiting on a response to who in the phhuggg you can compare …. COMPARE, AIG, lol
1) Gardowski taking a sack/fumble right before the half OF THE TEXANS GAME YOU FRICKIN’ #@$%@@@@@@tha!
to ….
2) a drive that ENDED WITH Bush taking 3 straight HANDOFFs including a failed 4th and 2 conversion.
Bottomline dippy is that you need to let JFB speak for the Gardowski Group. You sound like a damn clown.
Your attempt to make a point about Camplunkett leaving points on the board after the Nick Miller return punt was just a DUMB point, lol!
I guess you didn’t like the way Camplunkett handed the ball off?
October 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
mankins better than healthy gallery and our D LINE would be DE houston DT seymour DT wilfork DE matt shonasty our O LINE RT mario RG LOPER C satle LG MANKINs LT LANGSTON WALKER
October 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
I bet half of those guys opted for early retirement and the others have applied elsewhere
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Not likely. Those guys were fighting to be the LAST to leave the mine. Chile is a pretty poor country, not like there are a lot of opportunities
October 13th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Al went after Wilfork last year and a 1st rounder (what Bill probably thought would be a top 10) couldn’t get it done and Vince was complaining, wanted out of NE.
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Another one of the more solid semi pro’s on the blog!
People seem to forget that Wilfork was the initial target from day 1.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:39 am
LT Langston Walker?
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:39 am
at least that trade would fix something on defense it would berun on a d line like that you could still throw on us though but atleast they run when ever they want
October 13th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 7:39 am
LT Langston Walker?
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Pretty ridiculous, eh?
October 13th, 2010 at 7:44 am
There are only 3 more days until the trade deadline. I would say the chances of ANY trade happening are slim to none… and slim just left town.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Trade Jon Condo for Vince Wilfork!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:48 am
if bruce plays this week patrick willis will murder him wen he trys running for first down and gets ROCKED
October 13th, 2010 at 7:49 am
If Langston played a full game at LT we would be finishing the game with MBush running the wildcat and 3 QBs lined up for surgery.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Ok guys, Jmack is here….I have a few things to say:
1. With T.Scott at WLB we are a little weak in coverage, but are better at stopping the run by FAR with him there and shaugnessy at DE. For now i will definitely take the swap, better run d is what we needed. Rivers threw for 400 sum yards on us and we still won, because we stopped the run.
2. I was a huge Gradkowski advocate, and i still am. I didnt like what cable said though, that he will be the starter, if Campbell plays well against SF he should start. Gradkowski is a hell of a player for us, and is dangerous off the bench! But i think as he plays more and more the spark gets smaller and smaller… Start Campbell and we can always bring Grad in if JC struggles. I feel comfortable with both qb’s in the game, grad will play ballsy and JC will play conservative and make better decisions. We saw the Campbell we traded for on sunday, he played HIS GAME AND DID GOOD.
3. Bush is tough, i love the way we are running the ball, him and DMAC are a great 1,2 punch. Reece is nice out of the backfield lol or even down field. Zach Miller was the play maker on our offense, he played great.
4. Our secondary was burnt yes. Rivers is smokin right now and he ripped us a new one for sure, usually its when we were in cover 3 and our safteys were biting on the underneath stuff, i like how marshall called the game though. Blitzed early and then backed off and played man with the front four rushing. And in the end 5 straight blitzes, that was BEAUTIFUL.
5. And we took advantage of their poor special teams and got points out of it, also liked nick millers punt return.
6. Receivers have to get more involved, until then its gona be our backs and miller winning games. Hopefully(and i think its true) beating San Diego could be the catalyst for this team to really start balling, we are very confident right now and are starting to find an identity as a team in my opinion. Im ,liking HJACK’s offense alot and we can only get better..
THIS IS WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE PLAY GOOD RAIDER BALL!!!….9-7 or 10-6, i believe….
October 13th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Jhill:
you cheering on Armond is like somebody who drools over the posts by MR, Male Cheerleader, Fat Kidd or SeyGlenn.
were you also a fan of Corky from ‘Life Goes On’ ???
October 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Start Campbell and we can always bring Grad in if JC struggles. I feel comfortable with both qb’s in the game, grad will play ballsy and JC will play conservative and make better decisions. We saw the Campbell we traded for on sunday, he played HIS GAME AND DID GOOD.
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Agreed with Jmack!
October 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
were you also a fan of Corky from ‘Life Goes On’ ???
Ouch! Corky form “Life Goes On”? ( I know who he is…)
October 13th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Hey fellas. Still thinking about what will happen when Dmac is healthy again. Looked like both Dmac & Bush can carry the load all game. Dmac looked good running outside & catching, Bush looked good running inside & out, and pass blocking. I hope they figure a way to play them both like they do in Miami with Brown & Williams. These two are the key to our O, I really believe it.
October 13th, 2010 at 7:59 am
is chad going to start wen he comes back
October 13th, 2010 at 8:01 am
is chad going to start wen he comes back
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OchoCinco?
October 13th, 2010 at 8:04 am
popcicledrip Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 7:35 am
mankins better than healthy gallery and our D LINE would be DE houston DT seymour DT wilfork DE matt shonasty our O LINE RT mario RG LOPER C satle LG MANKINs LT LANGSTON WALKER
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Again… HUH? The NFL is not fantasy football man. Trades like that just don’t happen. I say we trade Campbell and Grads for Manning, Chaz and a 4th for Reggie Wayne, Zack Miller for Gates and Bush for CJ2K… oh yeah Huff for Polamalu as well.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:06 am
wow imagine if we would of traded for mcnabb and signed TO we would be 4-1 right now
October 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Huff for Polamalu
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no way !!!
October 13th, 2010 at 8:10 am
wow imagine if we would of traded for mcnabb and signed TO we would be 4-1 right now
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we could have traded for Boldin too
or grabbed TJ Housh in free agency …
October 13th, 2010 at 8:12 am
it not nothing like huff for polamalu – aso for wilfork – gallery 2 draft pick – mankins
October 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
were you also a fan of Corky from ‘Life Goes On’ ???
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Who ????
October 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Corky from Life goes on> Allen Iverson any day kids got way more guts than the Canswer smarter too!
October 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
yeah we could have tradid for boldin or grabed TJ but TO is having a great year
October 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Look RRS …
Sorry you’re all up in arms because I admitted I was wrong about Huff. Bauce and Raider O were right, the guy sucks.
And Armond is a solid poster on this blog. Top 10 imo.
You said he was a class act, and I agreed with you.
What’s the problem?
October 13th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Another Young Raider Hater “I hate Football” LMFAO
From PFT:http://www.nctimes.com/youtube_cb225b32-d58c-11df-b439-001cc4c002e0.html
October 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
J Hill
People seem to forget that Wilfork was the initial target from day 1.
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Wouldn’t that be something if we had him in the middle?
That’s why I keep telling folks it’s still a work in progress.
Al identified the need for a run stuffer. NE wasn’t willing to part with Wilfork who was about to sign his 2nd contract (the big one) but was comfortable letting Seymour go cause he wasn’t as essential, a bit more long in the tooth, and (most importantly) didn’t want to give him the crucial 3rd contract.
Al will though.
Point is, Al knows the O Line and NT are positions of need. For whatever reason, they didn’t like Cody who is apparently in the Wilforkian mold (no jokes about it breaking lol) so he got Houston to replace Ellis’ production.
I think Houston will turn out quite nicely. Had a chance to watch him at UT when I was hanging out in Austin last year. Good motor, real firey type dude.
Cable said he wanted the 4 guys already off the board when they took McClain at 8.
The top 2 DTs and top 2 LTs.
Now, we don’t have a 1st and I doubt we trade back up into it or trade more of our picks AWAY for players this year, so Al will make the best of his 2011 draft rounds 2-7.
Let’s not forget free agency either.
Al did grab Henderson which was a great move.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:17 am
RRS …
Didn’t you post some stuff about a black farmer and farm equipment?
I remember some other stuff too that was pretty outta left field.
Either some trolls you from time to time, or …. well …
October 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Huff should play nickel.
Shadow the slot guy and occasionally blitz.
He’s being misused, IMO.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
J Hill Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Point is, Al knows the O Line and NT are positions of need. For whatever reason, they didn’t like Cody who is apparently in the Wilforkian mold (no jokes about it breaking lol) so he got Houston to replace Ellis’ production.
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Exactly!
Al wanted Wilfork, but he gets crap for not drafting the fat guys some of the other semi pro’s wanted.
Oh well …
October 13th, 2010 at 8:21 am
I think a lot of these players are out of position really.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:23 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Huff should play nickel.
Shadow the slot guy and occasionally blitz.
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Agreed.
But CJ37 has moved ahead of Huff IMO. I’d like to see more of Stevie Brown too.
Huff is a FA after this year, and he can walk as far as I’m concerned.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Yeah I honeslty thought it would be McClain then Cody and he was there for the taking.
I was a bit surprised but was OK with the Houston pick.
This should really be a 34 team.
It just may be next year if we get the all-important piece.
Scott/Wimbley OLB
McClain/Goethel MLB/WLB
ShoNasty/Fat Guy/Seymour
October 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
I say we trade Campbell and Grads for Manning, Chaz and a 4th for Reggie Wayne, Zack Miller for Gates and Bush for CJ2K… oh yeah Huff for Polamalu as well.
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LOL!
October 13th, 2010 at 8:25 am
yeah al did try to fix the dline hederson was a great move but he really made a big move to fix oline I kind of thought that big john was going to go down quickly
October 13th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Huff is a FA after this year, and he can walk as far as I’m concerned.
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I’m sure he will unless he seriously lights it up.
He’s decent in a cover 2, but problem is QBs just go after Branch’s side.
I’d like to see more of Stevie Brown too.
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He’s this year’s Nick Miller. We haven’t really seen enough of him to know he’s that good, but you can just feel it. Looked great in preseason. Him and Wimbley were preseason MVPs.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
I don’t know about Veldheer and Campbell. They were smart 3rd and 4th rounders as projects.
You’d hope they get the more polished guys, but as none were available, they took the best on the board.
Something REALLY needed to be done after the draft to get an established guy or two.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:30 am
6 Oct 17 OAK @ SF…………………W
7 Oct 24 OAK @ DEN………………L
8 Oct 31 SEA @ OAK………………W
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK………………W
10 BYE
11 Nov 21 OAK @ PIT………………L
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK………………L
13 Dec 05 OAK @ SD ………………L
14 Dec 12 OAK @ JAC………………W
15 Dec 19 DEN @ OAK………………W
16 Dec 26 IND @ OAK………………L
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC…………………W
8-8 finish might win the division
October 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Okay, so my fantasy team was just boned by the bye week.
For my #2 RB spot, so I start Danny Woodhead, Jason Snelling, or pick up Julius Jones?
All of those options kind of suck…
October 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am
Corky from Life goes on> Allen Iverson any day kids got way more guts than the Canswer smarter too!
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LOL @ NMF
A.I. is gonna rip it up in Turkey!
RUE THE DAY my friend
October 13th, 2010 at 8:36 am
I admitted I was wrong about Huff
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Jhill, good job man
I hope 80 percent of this blog follows you
Huff is a player!
October 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Didn’t you post some stuff about a black farmer
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Jhill,
i’m cool with Darius Rucker
whats your problem?
October 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Huff will be a very serviceable player for another team.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:41 am
For my #2 RB spot, so I start Danny Woodhead, Jason Snelling, or pick up Julius Jones?
All of those options kind of suck…
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Agreed!
I had to roll with Brandon Jacobs & Jonathan Stewart as my RB’s last week and I still won (beat Plunk)
LOL
started Kenneth Darby & Cadillac Williams last week too (in a different league) and won that game as well. those guys netted me a total of like 4 points. pfft
October 13th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Agreed!
I had to roll with Brandon Jacobs & Jonathan Stewart as my RB’s last week and I still won (beat Plunk)
LOL
started Kenneth Darby & Cadillac Williams last week too (in a different league) and won that game as well. those guys netted me a total of like 4 points. pfft
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That’s rough.
The worst part is, Fred Jackson FINALLY becomes a starter, and his bye week comes up. Thank god Ray Rice has started coming around for me.
I think I’m going to go with Woodhead. Should be a big part in the passing game without Faulk around, and now that Moss is gone everyone else should see the ball more… in theory…
October 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
what was the worst offseason move we made all year I think it was the trade for groves
October 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
What did DHB do in last Sundays game aginst the Chargers?
October 13th, 2010 at 8:47 am
YA: I feel your pain man
last week scenarios
#1 Mendenhall & Ronnie Brown on bye weeks. Pierre Thomas OUT injured
subs = Jacobs & Stewart
#1 Justin Forsett & Benjarvis Green-Ellis on bye weeks. Clinton Portis OUT injured
subs = Darby & Caddy Williams
October 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
What did DHB do in last Sundays game aginst the Chargers?
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he ran fast!
sorry CJL34. i’m trying to keep it positive
October 13th, 2010 at 8:50 am
YA: I feel your pain man
last week scenarios
#1 Mendenhall & Ronnie Brown on bye weeks. Pierre Thomas OUT injured
subs = Jacobs & Stewart
#1 Justin Forsett & Benjarvis Green-Ellis on bye weeks. Clinton Portis OUT injured
subs = Darby & Caddy Williams
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Ooh damn, that hurts.
Although I’m glad I’m not the only person who has Forsett as a starter. Why the Seahags don’t use him more is beyond me, he’s by far their best runner.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:51 am
popcicledrip Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am
what was the worst offseason move we made all year I think it was the trade for groves
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Nah a 5th rounder for Groves wasnt a bad move. Making him a LB may not have been a great idea, but it wasnt a bad trade.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
what was the worst offseason move we made all year I think it was the trade for groves
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the entire draft!
we had a fine MLB in Kirk Morrison and fine DE’s in Seymour & ShoNasty
we needed 1 nose tackle and two OT’s that weren’t projects!
Henderson & Walker? really?
rookie LT’s converted to play center & guard? really?
a kick returner in RD4? those guys are dime a dozen! look at nick miller! louis rankin is still a FA too!
October 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
What did DHB do in last Sundays game aginst the Chargers?
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Please dont everyone speak at once LMAO!!!
October 13th, 2010 at 8:54 am
DHB didnt do anything wrong, Campbell just didnt throw his way, he was open or one on one coverage and Campbell just didnt go his way, Campbell doing the safe options to Miller, which is fine when you need to keep the chains moving.
And Gradkowski and his sore shoulder threw a pass to DHB on a hitch route that hit the ground like 5 yards short of DHB.
DHB is often just running go and hitch routes, with a safety creeping over in cover that side. Whilst Miller runs seams and in routes, and Murphy runs a variety of routes.
Boller could be good for DHB and Murphy. Campbell is good for McFadden and Miller. Gradkowski healthy is good for Miller and Murphy.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
I keep waiting for a break out game what a disappointment.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 8:49 am
What did DHB do in last Sundays game aginst the Chargers?
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he ran fast!
sorry CJL34. i’m trying to keep it positive
October 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
what was the worst offseason move we made all year
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Moving Scott to DE.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Ooh damn, that hurts.
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yup. I’m just here to tell you that I won both games anyways!
ANY GIVEN SUNDAY man … it’s true
I wonder what Forsett’s role will be once Marshawn Lynch learns enough of Pete Carroll’s playbook to see action? will he still start? will his # of carries be cut in half?
October 13th, 2010 at 8:59 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 8:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am
What did DHB do in last Sundays game aginst the Chargers?
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Please dont everyone speak at once LMAO!!!
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I don’t see him being productive until the coaches expand the routes they call for him. As long as the majority of his attempts are vertcal routes, he’s going to be a non factor.
October 13th, 2010 at 9:01 am
new post Armond Shields lubbers!
October 13th, 2010 at 9:04 am
we are getting better but you can tell we are still playing like a bunch of highschool kids we are not getting the ball to wide recivers are safteys are getting destroyd In the passing game getting run over in the run game you could have mistaken our secondary last week for a division 2 school against boisestate I know rivers is great but come we half to stop beating are selfs in games its killing us every game
October 13th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
BenRaiderfan – Grads latest injury was caused by him taking risks. What can you say…the guy has a heart bigger than his body can handle. He shouldn’t take on defenders like that. He’s already proven himself already as a balls to the walls kind of guy. As for your insult about him putting on a skirt. Come on, man. Really? You’re gonna call out a guy that lays everything he has out there on the field? Look, I agree with your point about not anointing him the next Gannon before he does anything but you need to back off with that. Grads doesn’t slide butt first with nobody within 5 yards.
Fact is, Grads is the best option right now. Need proof of that? The head coach and coordinator both agree he is the starter.
JC did a pretty decent job coming off the bench and didn’t make any mistakes. But he still has to work on getting the ball downfield.
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Look guy, you’ve got it wrong. First of all, that’s not heart. That’s a career backup taking whatever chance he can to keep his job. Like coming in injured when he couldn’t throw marshmallows. It’s not fire and desire and all that crap. It’s a guy that saw his chance in Houston ripped to shreds when frigging Craig Nall stepped on the field. He got his shot with the Bust stinking up the joint and he made a good run. But he’s as fragile as porcelain and he’ll crack whether he runs into a linebacker or a pillow. And whether he has this heart or not, he NEEDS to beat a damn good defense if he’s going to be a QB in the league. Troy-less Pittsburgh and Cincy do not count for that. If he’s half as good as half the people say, he should have owned the Cards and Texans because their defense were begging for a buttkicking. The Cards gave him 5, yes 5 starts at the 38 or greater in the first half. How the hell do you think he got 20 points in the first half? Bet you thought it was that fire and energy? WRONG!!!! It’s playing on a field that 40% smaller than a normal football field. Don’t believe me. Look at the second half with normal field position. How many points? 3. Geddddouuuuuuddddaaheah. Let him prove it before you say it.
October 13th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Debo, those TD drives when we needed them most were solid, no doubt. But saying that Grads is 0-2 isn’t fair at all. First off, while he didn’t start the Rams game, clearly…CLEARLY…he was a big part of our turnaround in the 2nd half. Using the term “starts” is a technicality that you’re throwing in there just to make sure his record start with a 0. As for the Arizona game, look I’m not one to make excuses but dude. Come on. 3 missed FGs? Let’s get real here, Debo. The team was in position to win with a gimme FG at the end. Let’s call a spade a spade.
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What turnaround??? We won by two points, we were down by 4 points. That’s 6 points. Look at Campbell’s drives in the first half? Cable goes for it on fourth and one (money on the ground but we walk past it). Jano missed a field goal and we kick a field goal and interception and a three and out. That’s it. That’s what I hated about the Cards game. The same thing happens (4th and one miss and missed field goals) and everyone is saying poor Grad. Meanwhile he didn’t score a point in the 3rd quarter just like the Texans game and no one says anything.
Obviously, JC has started slow in all three games he’s been in. If he had been with the team a year, I’d be concerned but not for a new person. After beating the frigging Bolts, there’s no way anyone can convince me he couldn’t have beat the Rams. He’s the only QB who’s led two back to back TD drives this season.