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Could be Boller’s turn next

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.

With the Raiders having already gone from Jason Campbell to Bruce Gradkowski to Campbell again, can Kyle Boller be far behind?

Judging from Gradkowski’s level of activity during the media window Thursday, Boller will be backing up Campbell against the San Francisco 49ers.

And given that quarterbacks are often put in a compromising position in terms of injury, and that Hue Jackson and Tom Cable didn’t hesitate to give Campbell the hook when things weren’t going well, Boller could find himself getting on the field for the first time since the preseason.

Boller was getting work in a walk-through setting along with Campbell, while Gradkowski was a spectactor. If Gradkowski isn’t healthy enough to start, his arm isn’t going to feel any better as a backup _ meaning Boller is the likely No. 2.

Players who weren’t practicing were defensive tackle John Henderson (stress fracture), linebacker Travis Goethel (lower back), wide receiver Chaz Schilens (knee), linebacker Thomas Howard (knee) and running back Michael Bennett.

Bennett was jogging on a separate field as practice began.

Left guard Robert Gallery was with the first team defense at left guard, while Darren McFadden got in some work at the less-than-half speed walkthrough pace.

“I’m still feeling it right now,” McFadden said before practice began. I haven’t gone out there and tried to go 100 percent . . . I’m still working and taking my time with it.”

Asked if he thought he could play, McFadden said, “It’s up in the air right now,” and when asked if the odds were 50-50, he agreed.

Boller had a training camp that was solid enough for coach Tom Cable to say he’d pulled even with the injured Gradkowski in the competition to be Campbell’s backup. Gradkowski moved ahead with solid preseason performances against San Francisco and Seattle.

Boller was 26 of 43 for 360 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions in the preseason. He signed with the Raiders on April 15, before the team had cut JaMarcus Russell and traded for Campbell.

More to come . . .

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209 Responses to “Could be Boller’s turn next”

  1. mkyd1963 Says:

    Wow.

    I’m first.

  2. RaiderRockstar Says:

    1st!

  3. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    Mistic,

    You do you ever realize how you, Bauce and the rest of the JC fan club carry so many myths on JC?

    I can debunk each and everyone of your myths on here.

    1. Strong arm.
    2. Less turnovers
    3. More potential
    4. Better leader

    I’ve gone back and researched the nubmers and none of it seem to back up your claims on here. So please save me the excuses. I will believe it when I see JC actually show it on the field.
    ****************************************

    LOL you still havent debunked it yet. Come on do we really need to go there with number 1? This is common knowledge man. Number 2 well you already shown who has more turnovers lol. Number 3…..again come on AIG, what potential does Grad have when he cant last a whole season? Number 4 is up in the air and no one at least not me ever said either QB was a better leader.

    Funny I’ll actually believe Grad can be the game for the rest of the season when he is healthy…..problem is you and everyone else on this blog knows that will never happen. You make excuses for Grad and have been doing it all week my friend. Grad has yet to be beat a stout defense or win playing an entire game this season….just like Campbell. So I believe it when I see it too

  4. Dakota Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Dakota

    You said all DMAC needs is a head coach or Offense head who can use him properly. You have been saying that for two years.

    Laugh all you want, DHB just needs a strong armed QB that can lay a pass right in his hands while on a full sprint or at least get real close.
    He has a problem catching the ball, however for all we know a top ten QB could make DHB look like a top ten reciever
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    But the difference between McFadden and DHB is that McFadden actually produced in college. DHB didn’t. I think DHB has the work ethic to become a little better, but that is his only chance because those hands of stone are not going to suddenly get softer.

  5. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    More specifically against #21 the most overrated player to ever wear the S & B.
    ______

    HairyBush Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    # YoungAmerican Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
    ==========================================================
    against the Raiders anyways
    *******************************

    But Mista….he is such a class act and is so well spoken lol

  6. YoungAmerican Says:

    Haha maybe Kyle Boller is Jim Plunkett, too.

  7. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Judging from Gradkowski’s level of activity during the media window Thursday, Boller will be backing up Campbell against the San Francisco 49ers.

    And given that quarterbacks are often put in a compromising position in terms of injury, and that Hue Jackson and Tom Cable didn’t hesitate to give Campbell the hook when things weren’t going well, Boller could find himself getting on the field for the first time since the preseason.

    Boller was getting work in a walk-through setting along with Campbell, while Gradkowski was a spectactor. If Gradkowski isn’t healthy enough to start, his arm isn’t going to feel any better as a backup _ meaning Boller is the likely No. 2.

    ***

    sweet.

    back it up KB!

    I still don’t want to see Travis LaBoy get a free shot on JCamp though …

  8. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Routt is the second best CB we have on this team like I said in the pre-season when you semi’s and RRS were calling for his head. W McFadden might be the nickle when he’s healthy. CJ can watch and take notes in case a guy goes down.

  9. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Routt gets beaten deep routinley.

    ***

    Macho,

    He earned NCAA Outdoor All-American honors after finishing third in the 200 meters at the 2003 NCAA Outdoor Meet. In indoor track, he was named Conference USA’s Men’s 2004 Indoor Track Athlete of the Year after winning the 60-meter and 200-meter dashes and qualified to compete in the 60-meter and 200-meter dashes at the NCAA Indoor Championship. He is a two-time winner in the 200 meters at the NCAA Midwest Regional Championships.

    At the 2005 NFL Combine, Routt was recorded as having the fastest 40 yard dash with a time of 4.25 seconds

    Routt needed 6 years just to become an average football player!!

  10. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    Anyone remember Malcom Floyd who played for Houston Oilers/Tennesse Titans in ’90s? He’s actually the older brother of the Malcom Floyd in the league today. Their real last name is Seabron, but they changed it to Floyd after a racist incident with white relatives in the south (truth, not making this up). Unknown why both of their names are Malcom. George Foreman named a few of his sons George, too. The elder Malcom Floyd attended McClatchy high in Sacramento in the late ’80s (then going by Seabron).
    *********************

    Someone mentioned that to me last year but I never really paid too much attention to it……crazy story

  11. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Routt and CJ are a wash to me….both get beat but Routt may have advantage by a slight bit

  12. Mistabr0wn Says:

    It should be illegal to name your children the same name.

    smh

  13. Mistabr0wn Says:

    #21 and Routt are a wash to me.
    ______

    Bauce 4 Real Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    Routt and CJ are a wash to me….both get beat but Routt may have advantage by a slight bit

  14. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    DO NOT PLAY DMAC THIS WEEK!

    Bush and Cartwright take the load….have DMAC back for Denver game…..no need to rush him back so he can miss even more time

  15. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    #21 and Routt are a wash to me.
    ______

    Bauce 4 Real Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    Routt and CJ are a wash to me….both get beat but Routt may have advantage by a slight bit
    **********************

    Ouch! You been in my Tequila stash I see

  16. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DO NOT PLAY DMAC THIS WEEK!

    Bush and Cartwright take the load….have DMAC back for Denver game…..no need to rush him back so he can miss even more time

    ***

    Agreed!

  17. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    It should be illegal to name your children the same name.

    smh
    *************************

    It also should be illegal to have trash OGs like Gallery and Carlisle starting

  18. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Last week I couldn’t take it anymore & called out #21. A few people jumped on that & then #21 had a horrendous game against SD.

    Does #21 read the blog?

    Sorry to put your ego on the spot 21, sack up and make a play and i’ll take you off the list.

  19. mistic1 Says:

    All of our dbs can fly, the main problems i see, is our single deep is rarely deep enough on the long throws. Add in with that that our dbs are not playmkers, in that they dont find the ball in flight. So there are time when they really look bad because they take the outside shoulder and the safety never shows up to take away the inside. It looks bad as well when they are basically stride for stride but the ball is caught because the db never found the ball and made a pla on it. This is also why we get killed with pi calls.

  20. Bobby Bushay Says:

    Wow, QB controversy… well, at least last year we could almost all agree that #2 was a flop by now.

  21. Dakota Says:

    I like how some people justify DHBs hands by saying that “hey Jerry Rice couldn’t catch when he first go to the NFL either!”

    lol

    Yeah, Rice dropped some balls his rookie year…he also had a 10 catch 241 yard game and was named the offensive ROY his rookie season….and not to mention the fact that Rice set several college records (112 receptions, 27 TDs 1845 receiving yards his senior year).

    DHB is just a fast guy that has a very hard time catching passes, let alone TDs. I simply hope he somehow developes into an AVERAGE NFL WR.

  22. YoungAmerican Says:

    I’m hoping Ware and McFadden are the real deal. Coaching staff seems high on both of them, but they haven’t seen the field much lately.

  23. popcicledrip Says:

    boller I would like to see what he’s got if cambell don’t get it done this week

  24. Dakota Says:

    Danm, me englesh soucks!

  25. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Last year it was a legit reason. Anybody still saying that should have to shine tj’s boots.
    _______

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    I like how some people justify DHBs hands by saying that “hey Jerry Rice couldn’t catch when he first go to the NFL either!”

  26. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    Look guys if JC wins this week….he is your starter until the season ends…get over it

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Brown: Nnamdi Asomugha is a great player, but he’s not worth what we’re paying him to be sure

    next year he’ll get Top 5 QB money. we’re talking about Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers & Philip Rivers

    does N21 make that big a difference in the W/L column?

    the past 7 years we haven’t won more than 5 games in a season with him and this year we’re starting out 2-3

  28. mistic1 Says:

    # Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Routt is the second best CB we have on this team like I said in the pre-season when you semi’s and RRS were calling for his head. W McFadden might be the nickle when he’s healthy. CJ can watch and take notes in case a guy goes down.
    ============================================================

    I have j ware ahead of macfadden, he is very aggresive when the ball is up, has the look of a playmaker. he also has huge chip on his shoulder and seems to play angry, something we need.

  29. Bauce 4 Real Says:

    anyways ill get at yall later

  30. Mistabr0wn Says:

    He wont be the starter until the season ends because he will be on IR before the season ends.

    I see Boller finishing the year for us.

  31. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Jerry Rice had it more than figured out by the second half of his rookie year. His early bad hands were bad like T.O.’s hands are bad…what he drops, he makes up for in production.

    DHB is no Jerry Rice…but he could still be a great WR in the not-too-distant future.

  32. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    Brown: Nnamdi Asomugha is a great player, but he’s not worth what we’re paying him to be sure

    next year he’ll get Top 5 QB money. we’re talking about Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers & Philip Rivers

    does N21 make that big a difference in the W/L column?

    the past 7 years we haven’t won more than 5 games in a season with him and this year we’re starting out 2-3
    ++++++++++++

    After wasting countless draft picks on DBs, Al Davis finally got one right….he will pay whatever it takes to keep Nnamdi a Raider…whether or not it is worth it.

  33. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    DO NOT PLAY DMAC THIS WEEK!

    Bush and Cartwright take the load….have DMAC back for Denver game…..no need to rush him back so he can miss even more time

    ***

    Agreed!

    ————-

    Second motion for him not to play!

  34. Mistabr0wn Says:

    At least #21 is not getting a free ride anymore…

    My work is done.

  35. DutchRaider77 Says:

    How is Gallery Trash at LG?
    He does not block well?
    The team seems to run better with Gallery in the game, Henderson plays better with Gallery in the game.
    Or he is trash becuase he is always injured?
    Do not get me wrong, Gallery was a bust of a draft pick. No team picks a guy second overall to play guard.

  36. mistic1 Says:

    # HayesDaze37 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Jerry Rice had it more than figured out by the second half of his rookie year. His early bad hands were bad like T.O.’s hands are bad…what he drops, he makes up for in production.

    DHB is no Jerry Rice…but he could still be a great WR in the not-too-distant future.
    ============================================================

    On reason i love old man Al, he makes sure to be patient with his guys, there is no doubt if I can play or not by the time they are done here.

  37. popcicledrip Says:

    agree with RR I’ve been saying we should trade ASO he’s just not going to make a difrence right now get some picks start rebuilding the chiefs did it they traded jared allen and they know how good he was but they know they had to rebuild

  38. YoungAmerican Says:

    I agree that Nnamdi isn’t winning games for the Raiders. But he’s still the best football player on this team, and I think it would be stupid to get rid of him for anything less than a 1st round pick and a starting-caliber offensive or defensive lineman.

    Nnamdi to the Pats for the 1st round pick from the Seymour trade, and Matt Light/Logan Makins/Vince Wilfork? I wish…

  39. Dakota Says:

    DHB will never be a “great” WR. We will be lucky if he becomes an “adequate” WR.

  40. Mistabr0wn Says:

    LOL
    Problem is there is usually much doubt before they do leave.
    _______

    Mistic1 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    On reason i love old man Al, he makes sure to be patient with his guys, there is no doubt if I can play or not by the time they are done here.

  41. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    *****Warning********************

    Be very cautious of the Boeller band wagon.
    I watched this guy play in Baltimore and he was not that consistant. Will play big the whole game and blow two or three money plays to cost you the game. He never became “that guy” in Baltimore.

  42. YoungAmerican Says:

    Watch Al trade up for Michael Floyd… or a FS…

  43. aig-raiders Says:

    Bauce,

    Dont be a pssi and run today ok. This is my special for you and Mistic. I dont hate on JC. I’d like to see you guys back up your myths with some hard cold facts!!!

    1. Strong Arm.
    JC’s last 3 years avg yds per completion is 6.4, 7.1, and 6.1. That makes it 6.53 per pass completion. In his 5 yr career, he has only once been over 7 as a fulltime starter. Drew Brees’ weak arm is at 7.87. Garcia’s last 3 years 7.25. Could you please show me where he has put this strong arm to use? Isnt the def of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.

    So Bauce, what do you use to back up your claim that his avg yds per comp is goign to go higher when in his career he has never achieved it? Will you tell me DHB and Murphy are better than Moss and Laverenous Coles?

    2. Less Turnovers.
    Through 9 qtrs, JC has avg .78 int/fum, per QTR.
    Through 11 qtrs, Grad has avg .64 int/fum, per qtr.

    3. Potential
    Through 9 qtrs, JC has produced .22TD pass and 3.67 points per QTR.
    Through 11 qtrs, Grad has produced .36TD pass and 5.73 points per qtr.

    The Redskins avg 16.6 for 2009 and 16.6 for 2008.

    4. Leadership.
    You cannot lead grown men when you look lost out there and slide before the first down marker. They benched bruce due to an injury. They benched a healthy JC.

    So have at it. Please show me where in his track record that shows he is going to light it up or even back up your claims. You can have an opinion but make sure you dont try to pass it as facts!

  44. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Boller sucks, he sucked it up in Baltimore, he sucked it up in the preseason against scrubs, and he is gonna really suck it uo against Willis & Co. Tell JC to dump it off ! otherwise well be stuck with Kyle Boller who makes Donald Hollas look like a friggin luxury!

  45. Dakota Says:

    No one will trade for Nnamdi’s contract. They would have to offer him a HUGE contract extension to get Nnamdi to give up his guaranteed minimum of $16.8 million in 2011.

  46. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Here’s hoping JCampbell holds up to the pressure — before, during, and after the game…and we don’t even see Boller warming-up on the sidelines!

    It’s a great week to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

  47. popcicledrip Says:

    does any one think bruce cambell could be running back LOL

  48. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It’s a great week to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    ***

    wise choice to back down rodent

  49. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Dallas could trade for Nnamdi. They traded for Dion, and that got them 1 SB. Once the salary cap returns they can just trade him or something.

  50. RaiderRockstar Says:

    No one will trade for Nnamdi’s contract. They would have to offer him a HUGE contract extension to get Nnamdi to give up his guaranteed minimum of $16.8 million in 2011.

    ***

    Dakota,

    it’s not guaranteed

  51. Dakota Says:

    Nnamdi ain’t no Deion Sanders.

  52. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi ain’t no Deion Sanders.

    ***

    N21 prob has 10 INT’s in eight years …

  53. Thec07 Says:

    wow a lot of Pros, and Semi pros hitting the blog right now…Some good post and reads….Nice

  54. popcicledrip Says:

    mario was drafted at DT out of florida state right

  55. RaiderRockstar Says:

    wow a lot of Pros, and Semi pros hitting the blog right now…Some good post and reads….Nice

    ***

    everybody gets excited over a Kyle Boller post!

  56. Thec07 Says:

    agree with RR I’ve been saying we should trade ASO

    +++++++++++

    That sounds and looks like the woodson deal…What did you get in return?

  57. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I haven’t watched FoxNews in nearly two years. Except for the clips that John Stewart shows, highlighting their absurd moments. I don’t know why people watch that network. It’s not journalism. They also invented the style of crossfire news shows that have ruined all of the cable news networks, that pit a republican and a democrat and have them yell over each other for an entire segment. It’s impossible to learn anything while watching that. It’s just entertainment. And propaganda, in Fox News’s case.

  58. RaiderRockstar Says:

    honey crisp apples are amazing!

  59. Thec07 Says:

    Oh I also forgot, “Blog Personalities” lol….

  60. aig-raiders Says:

    Bauce,

    Do you have to run back to work now? Considered yourself owned! You’re excused.

  61. KoolKell Says:

    Like Snb said, If Davis trades Nnamdi, he’ll spend the next 10 years drafting speedy CB’s and dishing out millions on bust after bust.

  62. Dakota Says:

    “Asomugha’s contract voids after the second season unless the Raiders pay him $16.8 million for 2011 or the franchise tag for a quarterback, whichever is higher.”

    Rockstar…yeah, it is not guaranteed if the Raiders decide not to pick up his option…then the Raiders lose him for nothing. but we are talking about trades. If the Raiders trade him the team that gets him is going to have to either give him at least $16.8 million or get him to renegotiate by offering a huge contact. They are not going to trade for him and then let him walk after the remainder of this season.

    If Nnamdi blows out his knees before the end of the season that might happen, but otherwise, he is guaranteed a huge payday in 2011.

  63. aig-raiders Says:

    Dakota,

    Been saying all week. Nnamdi is now a product of media hype like Revis. He got one great year and our other corner is so bad (Meangelo Hall, Fabian Wash, CJ, Routt) that they dont bother testing Nnamdi. All I know is Rivers just toast Nnamdi every time we play him.

  64. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Davis trades Nnamdi, he’ll spend the next 10 years drafting speedy CB’s and dishing out millions on bust after bust.

    ***

    Kell,

    you’re giving AD another 10+ years?

  65. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    JC will have a good game this weekend and show why he should be the starter. Take that to the bank!!!

    He has just been trying to figure this team out. Also, for the last time a check down is not a bad thing!!! All of the top QBs in the NFL do it. You ahve to or you will be killed!!! Check downs keeps the defense honest and the chains moving. Our new WRS need to learn how to adjust to the check downs and catch the ball in stride rather than looking for this Grad jump balls that he loves to throw and they like to catch. They are easy catches. JC throws balls you can take to the house if you catch it at the spot and in rythm. Ask Murphy!

  66. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Woodson was/is better than Nnamdi.

    Any objections?

  67. DutchRaider77 Says:

    I would rather have Kyle Boller as a bakcup then Bobby Hoying.

  68. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    There is no such thing as “left” and “right”. Those are just titles created to divide and confuse people.

    Both groups have the exact same agendas and ideologies BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

    …………..

    Nonsense.

  69. KoolKell Says:

    Kell,

    you’re giving AD another 10+ years?
    —————————-
    Lol, just trying to make a point.

  70. Dakota Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    Dakota,

    Been saying all week. Nnamdi is now a product of media hype like Revis. He got one great year and our other corner is so bad (Meangelo Hall, Fabian Wash, CJ, Routt) that they dont bother testing Nnamdi. All I know is Rivers just toast Nnamdi every time we play him.
    ++++++++++++

    I agree to an extent. I said before the season that Nnamdi might look more human this season if teams are forced to actually attempt passes against our defense. Everyone got pissed at me and said it couldn’t happen. Don’t get me wrong, Nnamdi is a great CB, but he isn’t invincible.

  71. popcicledrip Says:

    next blog will be charlie frye might have a shot LOL

  72. aig-raiders Says:

    He’s def above avg but not at the level that teh media was having him at. He’s not a threat to intercept the ball like Charles or Deion. Did you see Revis got abused on Monday nite? Percy treated him like a biatch.

  73. Thec07 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    There is no such thing as “left” and “right”. Those are just titles created to divide and confuse people.

    Both groups have the exact same agendas and ideologies BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

    May not be what they say to US in debates and speeches. But after the show is over, they are rubbing shoulders, partying, and breaking bread with one another.

    That’s why it’s called politics. It’s a dirty game. With emphasis on GAME.

    ++++++++++

    Best post of the day….

  74. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I know Nnamdi is targeted that often, but I wonder what the percentage is of balls thrown to the guy he’s covering.

    passes defensed & INT’s versus catches & scores?

  75. Thec07 Says:

    Both groups have the exact same agendas and ideologies BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

    +++++++++++

    both do the biding of the same masters….

  76. Dakota Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    Woodson was/is better than Nnamdi.

    Any objections?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Woodson is certainly more physically gifted than Nnamdi, but Nnamdi isn’t as big of a pain in the azz…Woodson is a HOF CB, Nnamdi will probably not get there unless something dramatically changes in the next season or two that allows Nnamdi to make some plays on the ball.

  77. aig-raiders Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    I know Nnamdi is targeted that often, but I wonder what the percentage is of balls thrown to the guy he’s covering.

    passes defensed & INT’s versus catches & scores?
    ————-
    I’d go one further and add the penalties in there too. How many times have we seen him give up a first down on a critical 3rd down due to an illegal contact?

  78. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Best post of the day….

    ***

    really Thec?

    thats the best on a ‘Raider blog’ ?

  79. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec and Armchair are confusing elected politicians with political ideology.

  80. Thec07 Says:

    Some times its best when an idiot speask to not respond….

  81. RaiderDebo Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    aig-raiders Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    Dakota,

    Been saying all week. Nnamdi is now a product of media hype like Revis. He got one great year and our other corner is so bad (Meangelo Hall, Fabian Wash, CJ, Routt) that they dont bother testing Nnamdi. All I know is Rivers just toast Nnamdi every time we play him.
    ++++++++++++

    I agree to an extent. I said before the season that Nnamdi might look more human this season if teams are forced to actually attempt passes against our defense. Everyone got pissed at me and said it couldn’t happen. Don’t get me wrong, Nnamdi is a great CB, but he isn’t invincible.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I agree as well. The guy has led a charmed life. He’s gotten paid like the top QBs in footballl without ever having to prove how good he really is. I’m ready to see how he handles more balls sent his way.

  82. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    Best post of the day….

    ***

    really Thec?

    thats the best on a ‘Raider blog’ ?

    +++++++++

    In my opinion YES…

  83. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d be fine with giving Nnamdi Asomugha 5 years $50 million, but if he wants more than that in his 30’s I say trade him (we can easily find a partner)

    remember nobody wanted Randy Moss’ contract either and he renegotiated to play for a winner. Guys do that when they know there could be a ring in it for them

  84. Dakota Says:

    If we could ever stop the run and score some points at the same time, we might actually get to see what Nnamdi is really made of.

    I don’t see that happening in the near future though. Not with Marshall at DC, and Al’s love of playing two pass rushing DTs instead of having a true NT. The latter is also why we will never know how great McClain could be…

  85. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Uh, why were you watching the “View.” I thought the “View” had the same negative effects as steroids, causes males testies to shrival up and fall off.

  86. raidertay Says:

    No QB is safe behind the Raiders OL.

  87. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If we could ever stop the run and score some points at the same time, we might actually get to see what Nnamdi is really made of.

    I don’t see that happening in the near future though. Not with Marshall at DC, and Al’s love of playing two pass rushing DTs instead of having a true NT. The latter is also why we will never know how great McClain could be…

    ***

    Agreed. and it’s a crying shame!

  88. RaiderDebo Says:

    I’m so tempted to bet the ranch and take the Raiders on the money line this week. But there has to be a reason the 49ers are favored by so much. It’s the 4th highest point spread this week. What am I missing?

  89. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Debo: Raiders win 20-14

  90. KoolKell Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    Both groups have the exact same agendas and ideologies BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

    +++++++++++

    both do the biding of the same masters….
    ————————-
    That’s easy and cynical to say, and it allow’s the sayer to sit on their arses and stay uninformed. You get the Govt you deserve.

  91. RaiderDebo Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    Debo: Raiders win 20-14
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    All I needed to hear. Gonna make the call.

  92. Chris in NY Says:

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    Really Chris?
    Art Shell’s O-line sucked too? Didn’t know! I bet A Walter would agree with you, thanks for stating the obvious to defend Cable.

    Shell didnt get 5 years to turn it around. Not that he could but comparing Cable to Shell’s 1 year is basically just ignorant.

    ———————-

    The point was that in Cable’s first year as o-line coach — the first season post Art Shell II — the line was dramatically better. Which meant it was probably average. The problem is that it hasn’t gotten any better since that first season.

  93. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    Both groups have the exact same agendas and ideologies BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

    +++++++++++

    both do the biding of the same masters….
    ————————-
    That’s easy and cynical to say, and it allow’s the sayer to sit on their arses and stay uninformed. You get the Govt you deserve.

    ++++++++++
    Who are you? Oh thats right you’re a “Blog Personality” never mind….Piss off DYCK…

  94. raidertay Says:

    Namndi is overated. Philip Rivers went after him last week and had plenty of success.

    I dont buy the I dont get thrown to so I dont get int’s theory. QBs avoid Charles Woodson and Deion Sanders but they got plenty of picks every year.

  95. fat kidd Says:

    Charlie Frye= Ken Stabler

  96. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Fat Kidd =

    http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Job/child_actors_3.jpg

  97. DutchRaider77 Says:

    I thought things were going to change with our D, once we penciled in two passing rushing specialists as our (Wimbley and Scott/Groves) starting OLB. Thought the D-Line would be more focused on stopping the run.

  98. Thec07 Says:

    Charlie Frye= Ken Stabler
    ++++++++=

    Wrong….When stabler stepped on the field you knew the team was going to win, no matter what….

    Not sure charlie frye has that aura….

  99. popcicledrip Says:

    if cable don’t work out are next head coach should be rob ryan WHOO

  100. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Well, if you can’t fool real people anymore….

    ***

    bwahahahahahaha!

  101. Chris in NY Says:

    I’ll take CJ over Routt. I think both are solid No. 2 CBs though. CJ is more physical and better against slot WRs. I think they’re pretty comparable though. Both do a pretty decent job, IMO.

    The big plays usually come from somebody getting out of position or miscommunication in the secondary. Plus — and this is shocking — offensive players actually make big plays and NFL QBs make great throws to complete passes into pretty good coverage. I think people in here are often over-critical of our DBs because our own passing offense has been so weak for so long that they forget what typical NFL offenses are capable of and what typical pass defenses allow is certainly no less than what we’re giving up.

    Despite the 400-yard day by Rivers and our lack of consistent pass rush, we still haven’t given up 1,000 yards passing through 5 games — that’s less than 200 yards per game. The Patriots, by comparison, are giving up about 272. The Texans, last in the league, are allowing 329.

    So yes, they’re not perfect, but I’ve got no problems at all with CJ and Routt as our 2&3 CBs.

  102. popcicledrip Says:

    is rob ryan still D cord for brownies

  103. KoolKell Says:

    The Mod won’t let me explain the differences to you.

  104. Dakota Says:

    Rob Ryan? You mean Rex’s retarded little brother? Jezuz, I’d rather keep Cable!

  105. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Deion Sanders didn’t tackle. Nnamdi does. Having said that, Nnamdi is very overrated. He is a solid DB that teams have not had to attack in the past.

  106. ArmChair GM Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Thec and Armchair are confusing elected politicians with political ideology.
    _______________________________________________________
    Yeah right…….

    And on Oct 31st Ichabod Crane is gonna get chased by the Headless Horseman. And on Dec. 25th Santa’s gonna slide down your chimney.

    Oh….and don’t forget to put your missing teeth under the pillow so the Tooth Fairy can bring you some money.

    You and Mistabrown can keep on believing in Fairy Tales(I mean politics) buddy.

    Just sheep being led to the slaughter.

  107. KoolKell Says:

    The GOP attacks on organized labor over the years, have cause wage earners income to remain flat, while CEO’s now make over 400 times what a worker makes.

  108. RaydaSwagger Says:

    Great point 108.

  109. Dakota Says:

    Despite the 400-yard day by Rivers and our lack of consistent pass rush, we still haven’t given up 1,000 yards passing through 5 games — that’s less than 200 yards per game. The Patriots, by comparison, are giving up about 272. The Texans, last in the league, are allowing 329.

    So yes, they’re not perfect, but I’ve got no problems at all with CJ and Routt as our 2&3 CBs.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I disagree. Just because teams have been gashing us with the run, doesn’t mean we should pat our DBs on the back. We spent 2006 claiming we had some sort of dominate pass D…then when we were actually competitive in 2007 that pass D was exposed to be crap too.

    We need a better #2 CB and better safeties…but first we need better d-linemen and LBs lol…and a better DC!

  110. KoolKell Says:

    Sure the Democrats have their interest groups, labor, environmental, civil rights…….

    Republicans, Oil, Mining, Wall Street…….

  111. Richochet Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    RRS — Take it back, and I’ll let it drop.
    ===================
    LMAO…what are you, 12? 10?
    Take it back?

    It’s posters like you that other teams fans look at and laugh.

  112. ArmChair GM Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    We need a better #2 CB and better safeties…but first we need better d-linemen and LBs lol…and a better DC!
    _______________________________________________________

    You mean a better DC than Al Davis,lol??

  113. RaiderRockstar Says:

    first we need better d-linemen and LBs…and a better DC!

    ***

    Tom Cable gets a pass from Nakota?

    wow!

  114. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderDebo Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    I’m so tempted to bet the ranch and take the Raiders on the money line this week. But there has to be a reason the 49ers are favored by so much. It’s the 4th highest point spread this week. What am I missing?
    ==========================
    Just common sense, Oakglen.

    of course, you can’t miss something you never had, so..you have that going for ya.

  115. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rich,

    you should see HD37’s detective skills!

  116. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    first we need better d-linemen and LBs…and a better DC!

    ***

    Tom Cable gets a pass from Nakota?

    wow!
    ++++++++++++

    No, we could have the best DL, LB and CB in the world and they would never win anything of significance under Tom Cable.

  117. mistic1 Says:

    Aig,
    I dont know why you keep mentioning me, but i have to disagree with you.

    Campbells arm is strong, but that is not his best quality. Nor is arm strength the best or most important quality a qb should have.

    By the way yards per completion isnt that good of an indicator of arm strength. Just becuase a qb has a strong arm doesnt mean he is going to heave it down the feild on every snap.

    come on bra, your better than that.

  118. LA to TheBay Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    I know Nnamdi is targeted that often, but I wonder what the percentage is of balls thrown to the guy he’s covering.

    passes defensed & INT’s versus catches & scores?
    —————————-

    Became a starter in 2005 and set new highs in tackles with 60 tackles(55 solo) and passes broken up with 14.

    2006 finished the season with 50 tackles(48 solo), eight interceptions, a sack, a forced fumble and one touchdown.

    2007 season, opposing quarterbacks tested him only 31 times with a mere 10 completions the entire season. One NFL scout told Pro Football Weekly that Asomugha was thrown at “less than any defender in the last ten years” in 2007 and finished with 34 tackles(32 solo), 1 interception and 7 breakups

    2008 season. Opposing quarterbacks tested him only 27 times the entire season resulting in just 8 completions. Only perennial all-pros Randy Moss (3 receptions, 40 yards) and Tony Gonzalez (2 receptions, 34 yards) would catch more than one ball on him during the year. New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said Asomugha is “as complete a cornerback as he has seen all year”.[8] He finished the 2008 season with 40 tackles, 1 interception, 1 forced fumble, and 9 pass deflections.

    A team captain again and the NFL’s least targeted cornerback by an extremely wide margin, Asomugha was challenged by opposing quarterbacks only 27 times and allowed 13 completions the entire 2009 season.

    Asomugha finished the season with 34 tackles, 1 interception, and was second in the league with 8 tackles for loss from the cornerback position
    ————————————–

    07: 10/31 32.3% 1 INT, 7 passes defensed
    08: 8/27 29.6% 1 INT, 9 passes defensed
    09: 13/27 48.1% 1 INT, 4 passes defensed

  119. KoolKell Says:

    *riddled

  120. Doc B Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Bauce,

    Dont be a pssi and run today ok. This is my special for you and Mistic. I dont hate on JC. I’d like to see you guys back up your myths with some hard cold facts!!!

    1. Strong Arm.
    JC’s last 3 years avg yds per completion is 6.4, 7.1, and 6.1. That makes it 6.53 per pass completion. In his 5 yr career, he has only once been over 7 as a fulltime starter. Drew Brees’ weak arm is at 7.87. Garcia’s last 3 years 7.25. Could you please show me where he has put this strong arm to use? Isnt the def of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.

    So Bauce, what do you use to back up your claim that his avg yds per comp is goign to go higher when in his career he has never achieved it? Will you tell me DHB and Murphy are better than Moss and Laverenous Coles?

    2. Less Turnovers.
    Through 9 qtrs, JC has avg .78 int/fum, per QTR.
    Through 11 qtrs, Grad has avg .64 int/fum, per qtr.

    3. Potential
    Through 9 qtrs, JC has produced .22TD pass and 3.67 points per QTR.
    Through 11 qtrs, Grad has produced .36TD pass and 5.73 points per qtr.

    The Redskins avg 16.6 for 2009 and 16.6 for 2008.

    4. Leadership.
    You cannot lead grown men when you look lost out there and slide before the first down marker. They benched bruce due to an injury. They benched a healthy JC.

    So have at it. Please show me where in his track record that shows he is going to light it up or even back up your claims. You can have an opinion but make sure you dont try to pass it as facts!
    ———————————–

    Great info aig. grads interceptions by the way were from deflected passes or because of bad hands of our receivers. To me if he had fitzgerald or johnson to throw to i can see him having more than one pick this year.

  121. fat kidd Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    Why is it that the Universities and higher educated people favor the Democrats, while “low information” voters vote Republican?

    …………….because republicans find a issue like abortion to sucker people into voting for them then they get in office and say we cant do nothing about abortion because of democrats so lets give the rich a tax break and loot the treasury.

  122. mistic1 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
    I’ll take CJ over Routt. I think both are solid No. 2 CBs though. CJ is more physical and better against slot WRs. I think they’re pretty comparable though. Both do a pretty decent job, IMO.

    The big plays usually come from somebody getting out of position or miscommunication in the secondary. Plus — and this is shocking — offensive players actually make big plays and NFL QBs make great throws to complete passes into pretty good coverage. I think people in here are often over-critical of our DBs because our own passing offense has been so weak for so long that they forget what typical NFL offenses are capable of and what typical pass defenses allow is certainly no less than what we’re giving up.

    Despite the 400-yard day by Rivers and our lack of consistent pass rush, we still haven’t given up 1,000 yards passing through 5 games — that’s less than 200 yards per game. The Patriots, by comparison, are giving up about 272. The Texans, last in the league, are allowing 329.

    So yes, they’re not perfect, but I’ve got no problems at all with CJ and Routt as our 2&3 CBs.

    =======================================================

    I think those guys are servicable, the main problem is where in the hell is our single high guy. On most of those deep passes you should see two defnders, the corner taking away the boundary, and single high closing off the middle. Most times our single high wasnt even in the picture when rivers went deep.

  123. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    Republicans convinced coal miners in Kentuckey to turn against Unions, played them.

    Then they violate saftey procedures which unions insist on and kill miners in their hazard riddles mines

    Massey Mines.

    ++++++++++++++
    So you really beleive in this 2 party system????

    Jobs are leaving the country no matter what party is in charge as that is part of the agenda. The USA has been sucked dry, and is on its way to being a 2nd, then third world nation.

    ROFLMAO at you Bruh…

    BTW you cant tell me SH!T about polittics, the 2 party system is all for no nothings like you to slurp and eat. Fact of the matter is this is a socialist country, and will continue to be….

    No

  124. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    Why is it that the Universities and higher educated people favor the Democrats, while “low information” voters vote Republican?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In 2008 Ob@ma took the White House thanks to the hispanic, black, youth and women voters…I guess we really have turned the corner in this country if they are the “higher educated”….they must have acheived those education levels under Bush!

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    07: 10/31 32.3% 1 INT, 7 passes defensed
    08: 8/27 29.6% 1 INT, 9 passes defensed
    09: 13/27 48.1% 1 INT, 4 passes defensed

    ***

    LA to TheBay, thanks man!

    that was an awesome breakdown…

    looking at these stats, could one assume that his play actually declined in 2009 after getting that monster contract from Al?

    solid #’s overall, not hating on the guy. just asking

  126. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    The GOP attacks on organized labor over the years, have cause wage earners income to remain flat, while CEO’s now make over 400 times what a worker makes.

    ++++++++++++++

    You are blind as hell, and the problem is that you “think” you are on top of things…

  127. mistic1 Says:

    The nfl is where the best coordinators and coaches work. There must be a reason, why most offenses dont even throw attempt to throw at area 21. I think the job he did on fitzgerald, was masterful, and validated his status as the best press cover corner in the game. I have never seen anyone do that to fitz.

    Also i dont have a problem with Al overpaying to keep quality talent. We let him go and we will be a long time trying to find a guy any where near his level.

  128. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    The GOP attacks on organized labor over the years, have cause wage earners income to remain flat, while CEO’s now make over 400 times what a worker makes.

    ++++++++++++====

    I bet you beleive the federal reserve and the US post office are goverment entities…

  129. Dakota Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    The nfl is where the best coordinators and coaches work. There must be a reason, why most offenses dont even throw attempt to throw at area 21. I think the job he did on fitzgerald, was masterful, and validated his status as the best press cover corner in the game. I have never seen anyone do that to fitz.

    Also i dont have a problem with Al overpaying to keep quality talent. We let him go and we will be a long time trying to find a guy any where near his level.
    +++++++++

    Yeah, Derek Anderson had nothing to do with Larry Fitzgerald’s bad game lol.

  130. ArmChair GM Says:

    A well thought out article once said…

    In a TRUE democracy, the people should be the ones responsible for selecting and nominating the CANDIDATES for Presidency, as well as voting for the one who eventually wins.

    Instead the political parties nominate there OWN guys/gals and we are left to pick between the candidates that they put forth.

    Oftentimes it leads to a choice similar to that of deciding whether or not you want to drink cyanide or arsenic.

  131. fat kidd Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    Why is it that the Universities and higher educated people favor the Democrats, while “low information” voters vote Republican?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In 2008 Ob@ma took the White House thanks to the hispanic, black, youth and women voters…I guess we really have turned the corner in this country if they are the “higher educated”….they must have acheived those education levels under Bush!

    ……………….former president bill clinton is in haiti former pres. bill clinton is campaigning for democrats he is always in the news .george w. is in hiding why?

  132. ArmChair GM Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    I bet you beleive the federal reserve and the US post office are goverment entities…
    _______________________________________________________

    Right on Thec…

  133. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Derek Anderson had nothing to do with Larry Fitzgerald’s bad game

    ***

    I think WR Steve Smith is going to explode and punch somebody again if they don’t get him a better QB than Moore or Clausen!

  134. mistic1 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    mistic1 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    The nfl is where the best coordinators and coaches work. There must be a reason, why most offenses dont even throw attempt to throw at area 21. I think the job he did on fitzgerald, was masterful, and validated his status as the best press cover corner in the game. I have never seen anyone do that to fitz.

    Also i dont have a problem with Al overpaying to keep quality talent. We let him go and we will be a long time trying to find a guy any where near his level.
    +++++++++

    Yeah, Derek Anderson had nothing to do with Larry Fitzgerald’s bad game lol.

    =======================================================

    Anderson sucks, but he wasnt the reason fitz was locked down, it was area 21, on him like gravy on grits.

  135. Thec07 Says:

    Questions for you “Kool Kell” “Blog Personality”
    1. Who owns the federal reserve?
    2. Who owns the US post office?
    3. Who owns the central bank?
    4. Who owns the world Bank?

  136. Dakota Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    A well thought out article once said…

    In a TRUE democracy, the people should be the ones responsible for selecting and nominating the CANDIDATES for Presidency, as well as voting for the one who eventually wins.

    Instead the political parties nominate there OWN guys/gals and we are left to pick between the candidates that they put forth.

    Oftentimes it leads to a choice similar to that of deciding whether or not you want to drink cyanide or arsenic.
    ++++++++++

    Ever heard of a primary election?

  137. RaiderRockstar Says:

    gotta love the political PM crowd :)

    I can’t wait to kick the 49ers while they’re down!

    watch us send Gore or VDavis to I.R.

    bwahahahahahaha

  138. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk – later gents!

  139. Thec07 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
    Questions for you “Kool Kell” “Blog Personality”
    1. Who owns the federal reserve?
    2. Who owns the US post office?
    3. Who owns the central bank?
    4. Who owns the world Bank?

    +++++++++++++++

    Kell if you have problems with the answers you can google it, as NBob has pointed out you have great surfing skills….

  140. mistic1 Says:

    Another underated part of nams game is when his guy does get a catch ( and that is rare) that guy gets tackled right where he caught it. Nam almost never gives up yards after catch, almost never gives up a catch to begin with. he is a good tackler, lat week he fought off a block and made huge tackle on the runnning back. I think we are forgetting it not just ints, that measure the corners.

  141. Thec07 Says:

    Getting rid of NAM is crazy talk…Should have kept CWOOD also…

  142. mistic1 Says:

    One last note on area 21, when he does finally start to slow down, he maybe able to slide back over to free safety, and play for another 4-5 years, like rod woodson.

  143. popcicledrip Says:

    we should draft my boy MANTE TEO out of ND to go along with mclain for 10plus$$ years of pure domnaits

  144. Thec07 Says:

    Our DB play has just as much to do with pressure than the DB covering.

  145. Dakota Says:

    ……………….former president bill clinton is in haiti former pres. bill clinton is campaigning for democrats he is always in the news .george w. is in hiding why?
    +++++++++++

    Bill Clinton didn’t show his face for several years after his presidency other than to stump for his wife; it is called professional courtesy. Presidents generally allow the next president to have the spotlight for some time, and then they move back into the fray several years later, if at all.

  146. ArmChair GM Says:

    How about the whole electorate college sham.

    That’s what got Bush into office the second time.

    It’s all a joke.

  147. mistic1 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Getting rid of NAM is crazy talk…Should have kept CWOOD also…

    ========================================================
    Can you imagine woodson and area 21 together….unfair.

    Woodson was to caught up in the bay area hyphee life. Looks like being in green bay with 0 distarctions has helped him alot. People always say that new york ruins alot of athletes, I think the bay is just as perilous for young rich party animal athletes.

  148. Thec07 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    How about the whole electorate college sham.

    That’s what got Bush into office the second time.

    It’s all a joke.

    +++++++++++++====

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH i get a kick out of that one every time…

  149. turner42 Says:

    The reason the pass defense stinks is there is no center fielder. Huff was drafted that high because he made plays at Texas close to the line of scrimmage, and can cover man to man, he is not Ed Reed. Thus, keep him blitzing, or covering the slot, not as the center fielder or the last line of defense. That’s just bad coaching to have him in that role. Play to his strengths, and we saw what happens on Sunday, he made a play, put him in space he’s lost. While sure it was against 3rd stringers, but Brown showed in the preseason he can play center field, and has shown on special teams he can tackle, so there is your single high/center field free safety we need.

  150. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Getting rid of NAM is crazy talk…Should have kept CWOOD also…
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Will you still think that when the salary cap is lowered once the owners dominate the players in next year’s lockout and suddenly Nnamdi’s contract is taking up $16.8 million of the $85 million cap?

  151. Thec07 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Getting rid of NAM is crazy talk…Should have kept CWOOD also…

    ========================================================
    Can you imagine woodson and area 21 together….unfair.

    Woodson was to caught up in the bay area hyphee life. Looks like being in green bay with 0 distarctions has helped him alot. People always say that new york ruins alot of athletes, I think the bay is just as perilous for young rich party animal athletes.

    ++++++++++++++=

    You would be deduced to running the football or throwing a lot of INTS….Truly 1 dimenstional…
    WTF did we get for him anyway????

  152. Thec07 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Getting rid of NAM is crazy talk…Should have kept CWOOD also…
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Will you still think that when the salary cap is lowered once the owners dominate the players in next year’s lockout and suddenly Nnamdi’s contract is taking up $16.8 million of the $85 million cap?

    +++++++++++++

    No…becuase if thats the case the team will have to resturcture to get that done…

  153. mistic1 Says:

    turner42 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    The reason the pass defense stinks is there is no center fielder. Huff was drafted that high because he made plays at Texas close to the line of scrimmage, and can cover man to man, he is not Ed Reed. Thus, keep him blitzing, or covering the slot, not as the center fielder or the last line of defense. That’s just bad coaching to have him in that role. Play to his strengths, and we saw what happens on Sunday, he made a play, put him in space he’s lost. While sure it was against 3rd stringers, but Brown showed in the preseason he can play center field, and has shown on special teams he can tackle, so there is your single high/center field free safety we need.

    =======================================================

    Couldnt agree more. Huff can cover a man, he is not good covering the field. Even though he has the speed, he is always out of position back there. Also our safety needs to be a good tackler, huff struggles there as well.

    Wasnt he a gruden pick, cant quite remember.

  154. turner42 Says:

    As for the QB situation; Neither are going to the HOF, and the offense is basic, so keep the hot hand out there, and keep them on their toes. Produce TD’s you stay in the game, stall drives for FG’s your out. I mean if your going to rotate LT’s, which is unheard of, why not Qb’s?

  155. popcicledrip Says:

    no mistic gruden was gone when huff was drafted

  156. Thec07 Says:

    turner42 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    The reason the pass defense stinks is there is no center fielder. Huff was drafted that high because he made plays at Texas close to the line of scrimmage, and can cover man to man, he is not Ed Reed. Thus, keep him blitzing, or covering the slot, not as the center fielder or the last line of defense. That’s just bad coaching to have him in that role. Play to his strengths, and we saw what happens on Sunday, he made a play, put him in space he’s lost. While sure it was against 3rd stringers, but Brown showed in the preseason he can play center field, and has shown on special teams he can tackle, so there is your single high/center field free safety we need.

    ==============

    AMEN…

  157. KoolKell Says:

    In 2008 Ob@ma took the White House thanks to the hispanic, black, youth and women voters…I guess we really have turned the corner in this country if they are the “higher educated”….they must have acheived those education levels under Bush!
    ——————————–
    In addition to educated whites.

  158. fat kidd Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    ……………….former president bill clinton is in haiti former pres. bill clinton is campaigning for democrats he is always in the news .george w. is in hiding why?
    +++++++++++

    Bill Clinton didn’t show his face for several years after his presidency other than to stump for his wife; it is called professional courtesy. Presidents generally allow the next president to have the spotlight for some time, and then they move back into the fray several years later, if at all.

    ………………..well i see former pres jimmy carter building homes as a volunteer i see him going to korea to get americans released from jail,like i said i see bill clinton all the time,just a couple of days ago i saw ronald reagen talking too elvis at a piggly wiggly store.but bush is hiding cause he fauked up the country and he knows it even his own father dont like him cause he screwed up his younger brothers jeb chances of being president.

  159. Dakota Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    How about the whole electorate college sham.

    That’s what got Bush into office the second time.

    It’s all a joke.
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Dude, you are showing your ignorance on this topic. Bush won easily in his second term.

    And as to the electoral college, this is a nation made up of individual states that had to compromise in order to form this nation…if you like the idea of the UNITED STATES then you should applaud the electoral college and the fact that each state gets two senators, because without those compromises there would be no UNITED STATES. This nation isn’t going to be dominated by two or three States that have the greatest population as long as there is the electoral college and the senate.

  160. KoolKell Says:

    Thec

    If you’re going to call names, then I’d say you’re one of those low-information dummies being played by Tea-Bag dummies.

  161. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    In 2008 Ob@ma took the White House thanks to the hispanic, black, youth and women voters…I guess we really have turned the corner in this country if they are the “higher educated”….they must have acheived those education levels under Bush!
    ——————————–
    In addition to educated whites.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Just white women lol…once they go black….

  162. mistic1 Says:

    popcicledrip Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    no mistic gruden was gone when huff was drafted

    =======================================================
    oh yeah this was one of the infamous coach vs. al draft decisions. poor art shell

  163. KoolKell Says:

    Thec

    Are you seeing the black helicopters circling over your house, too?

  164. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Getting rid of NAM is crazy talk…Should have kept CWOOD also…
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Will you still think that when the salary cap is lowered once the owners dominate the players in next year’s lockout and suddenly Nnamdi’s contract is taking up $16.8 million of the $85 million cap?

    +++++++++++++

    No…becuase if thats the case the team will have to resturcture to get that done…

    ++++++

    true

  165. popcicledrip Says:

    does any one agree that we should drafr MATE TEO in 2 years

  166. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
    Thec

    If you’re going to call names, then I’d say you’re one of those low-information dummies being played by Tea-Bag dummies.

    +++++++++++++

    you have yet to answer these questions;
    1. Who owns the federal reserve?
    2. Who owns the US post office?
    3. Who owns the central bank?
    4. Who owns the world Bank?

    Kell I would stack my information and knowledge against you any day of the week on any topic….

  167. denverraider Says:

    Today’s crazy prediction:
    Kyle Boller ends up the long term Raider QB if he gets a shot.

    Gradkowski has the spunk but lacks the arm and personal sense of…gravitas that will take you through to a super bowl win.

    Campbell has the arm, and seems level headed, but lacks fire.

    Boller has fire and an arm, and accuracy has improved.

  168. Dakota Says:

    popcicledrip Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    does any one agree that we should drafr MATE TEO in 2 years
    ++++++++++

    Depends…is DC Al Davis gone and do we have a real NT yet?

  169. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    Thec

    Are you seeing the black helicopters circling over your house, too?

    +++++++++++
    Yeah kell i get the helicopters, problem is sometimes they have diffrent flags on them, russian, chinese…

    Glad you still have a sense a humor…
    I dont recall calling you a name, however if I did my apologizes….

  170. popcicledrip Says:

    dakota I’m hoping next year 2 round NT any suggestions

  171. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    He lost the white evangelical vote big

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7709852.stm

  172. Thec07 Says:

    That’s easy and cynical to say, and it allow’s the sayer to sit on their arses and stay uninformed. You get the Govt you deserve.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++===

    You started in on me, I never hardly ever address the “Blog Personalitites” lol

    Kell I will let you off the hook Bro, just answer one of those question;

    Who owns the federal reserve?

  173. KoolKell Says:

    you have yet to answer these questions;
    1. Who owns the federal reserve?
    2. Who owns the US post office?
    3. Who owns the central bank?
    4. Who owns the world Bank?
    —————————-
    Google it, What’s your point?

  174. Thec07 Says:

    Kell, I will make is even easier for you;
    Is the Federal Reserve Federal?

  175. fat kidd Says:

    popcicledrip Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    does any one agree that we should drafr MATE TEO in 2 years

    ………………..i dont because of his name mate teo………ahoy there mate is that a real parrot on your shoulder,i noticed your eye patch how ya lose that eye.come aboard mate wet your whistle……

  176. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
    Dakota

    He lost the white evangelical vote big

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7709852.stm
    ++++++

    Well, at least someone was right about Ob@ma! But now people are coming to there senses very very quickly.

    Thune in 2012!

  177. turner42 Says:

    There is no NT in a 4-3 defense, there are defensive tackles…not the same thing at all, see A. Haynesworth. Thus if the Raiders continue to run a 4-3, which they’ve done forever, and will continue to do so, why draft a NT?

  178. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
    you have yet to answer these questions;
    1. Who owns the federal reserve?
    2. Who owns the US post office?
    3. Who owns the central bank?
    4. Who owns the world Bank?
    —————————-
    Google it, What’s your point?

    ++++++++==

    thats really weak….
    How can you talk politics and not know how money is created, derived, and how it flows into the system…
    how credit is truly leverage against NATIONs….

    Just what I thought you have zero IDEA…
    Thanks for playing…
    Knew you couldnt step up or keep up…

  179. KoolKell Says:

    The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as The Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, and was largely a response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907.[1][2][3] Over time, the roles and responsibilities of the Federal Reserve System have expanded and its structure has evolved.[2][4] Events such as the Great Depression were major factors leading to changes in the system.[5] Its duties today, according to official Federal Reserve documentation, are to conduct the nation’s monetary policy, supervise and regulate banking institutions, maintain the stability of the financial system and provide financial services to depository institutions, the U.S. government, and foreign official institutions.[6]

    Again, what’s your point, some crazy assed conspiracy?

  180. Dakota Says:

    **their**

  181. Thec07 Says:

    Kell, Next time don’t address me, especially if you arent ready…

  182. popcicledrip Says:

    fat kidd do you even know who he is you fat lazy eyed kunt

  183. Thec07 Says:

    aha now we are getting some where…Like Nbob says you have impecable surfing skills….

    However you did not answer the question,

    Who owns the fed?????

  184. Thec07 Says:

    I want to hear you say that the fed is a govt agency…
    You have allready proven you no zero about it….

  185. KoolKell Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Kell, Next time don’t address me, especially if you arent ready…
    ————————–
    ????????????????wtf?????????????

  186. KoolKell Says:

    Thec

    Stfu dummy. I don’t know what else to tell ya.

  187. Thec07 Says:

    Kell, you would have been better not to address me Bruh, seriously… You are not equiped to have this disccussion Bruh…

  188. fat kidd Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
    The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as The Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, and was largely a response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907.[1][2][3] Over time, the roles and responsibilities of the Federal Reserve System have expanded and its structure has evolved.[2][4] Events such as the Great Depression were major factors leading to changes in the system.[5] Its duties today, according to official Federal Reserve documentation, are to conduct the nation’s monetary policy, supervise and regulate banking institutions, maintain the stability of the financial system and provide financial services to depository institutions, the U.S. government, and foreign official institutions.[6]

    Again, what’s your point, some crazy assed conspiracy?

    ……………….if your looking for conspiracies your looking in the wrong place,its the chamber of commerce that the republican party has bought and are going too use.its going to be the new way of ripping people off…..

  189. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Thec

    Stfu dummy. I don’t know what else to tell ya.

    +++++++++++++++

    Oh having a melt down and resorting to names….

    Wow kell I would expect more from “blog personality”.

    Thanks for playing….

  190. Thec07 Says:

    I am going to move on now Kell, you are unarmed…

  191. r8dercain Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    Plunketthead Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Dakota

    You said all DMAC needs is a head coach or Offense head who can use him properly. You have been saying that for two years.

    Laugh all you want, DHB just needs a strong armed QB that can lay a pass right in his hands while on a full sprint or at least get real close.
    He has a problem catching the ball, however for all we know a top ten QB could make DHB look like a top ten reciever
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    But the difference between McFadden and DHB is that McFadden actually produced in college. DHB didn’t. I think DHB has the work ethic to become a little better, but that is his only chance because those hands of stone are not going to suddenly get softer.
    ———————-
    throw him rocks. That will soften his hands. Lol
    but yes I agree his work ethic can make him better

  192. Dakota Says:

    turner42 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
    There is no NT in a 4-3 defense, there are defensive tackles…not the same thing at all, see A. Haynesworth. Thus if the Raiders continue to run a 4-3, which they’ve done forever, and will continue to do so, why draft a NT?
    +++++++++++++

    Wrong, in a 4-3 there can be a NT and a 3 tech DT. The NT tries to occuopy the C and a G (Ted Washington or Sam Adams), and the Three Tech is usually the better pass rusher (Warren Sapp).

    Playing with two Three Techs (Kelly/Bryant/Seymour) = disaster.

  193. Raider Ray Says:

    Thec, I heard your friends with Bauce. You guys must have some real intellectual conversations. All you need is Beecham tagging along and you guys can be the three stooges.

  194. turner42 Says:

    That would not be a NT, it would be a 1 tech defensive tackle. Saying it’s a NT is like saying an olb in the 3-4 is a DE, which like your use of a NT in a 4-3 would be wrong.

  195. fat kidd Says:

    fat kidd Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
    turner42 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
    The republican party has not bought the chamber of commerce, big business both foreign and domestic control the chamber, and thus it is the chamber that has bought the republican party…….This is RAIDER blog right?

    yea this is a raider blog thats why im talking about republicans =raiders of the treasury….

    ………….please rate my comeback on a scale of 1 to 10

  196. HairyBush Says:

    Bauce 4 Real Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    Mistabr0wn Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    More specifically against #21 the most overrated player to ever wear the S & B.
    ______

    HairyBush Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    # YoungAmerican Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
    ==========================================================
    against the Raiders anyways
    *******************************

    But Mista….he is such a class act and is so well spoken lol
    ———————–
    You have to admit there were definetley some “phantom” calls against Nnamdi. just sayin

  197. Dakota Says:

    turner42 Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
    That would not be a NT, it would be a 1 tech defensive tackle. Saying it’s a NT is like saying an olb in the 3-4 is a DE, which like your use of a NT in a 4-3 would be wrong.
    +++++++++++
    Football 101

    “Frequently in a 4-3 defense, the DTs will have one gap responsibility. That means the DTs line up on the shoulder of their man, not head to head, and attempt to get by him and into the backfield. They are responsible that no running back comes through their gap. In the picture above, the gaps are lettered “A,” “B,” and “C.” The positions where the DTs can line up are numbered 1 through 6. Normally in a 4-3 you will have on very large DT who weighs about 330 to 360 pounds. He will line up on the Center’s shoulder and handle an A gap. This large guy is called a Nose Tackle (NT). You will often have a second DT who is just a little smaller and faster, perhaps 305-320 pounds, who will line up on the outside shoulder of the right guard in the 3 position. This DT is sometimes called a “3-technique” because of where he lines up. He will have responsibility for a B gap.”

  198. JLofty Says:

    I can’t believe you guys are harping on Nnamdi. While he is probably overpaid, he is a GREAT defensive back – get over it. The guy tackles, the guy is one of the best M2M cover corners in a generation, a standup employee and leader. WTF do you guys want in a football player? God?
    Woodson used to get toasted a LOT. He’d give up huge TDs to make big showy plays. Not that he wasn’t talented. Name me the last time Nnamdi got toasted like that for a big play TD. I didn’t think so.

    That and the two party system is killing this nation.

  199. HairyBush Says:

    JLofty Says:
    October 14th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    I can’t believe you guys are harping on Nnamdi. While he is probably overpaid, he is a GREAT defensive back – get over it. The guy tackles, the guy is one of the best M2M cover corners in a generation, a standup employee and leader. WTF do you guys want in a football player? God?
    Woodson used to get toasted a LOT. He’d give up huge TDs to make big showy plays. Not that he wasn’t talented. Name me the last time Nnamdi got toasted like that for a big play TD. I didn’t think so.
    ———————–
    can I get an amen!

  200. Thec07 Says:

    I am off, enjoy the day NATION…

  201. priesttj Says:

    If Huff plays the way he did Sunday he is as good a FS as we need. He he brings that kind of intensity and focus he’s very good.

    I Mike Mitchell does what I saw him do this past Sunday this secondary all of a sudden is damn good. Mitchell we outstanding but now like HUff it’s all about being consistent.

  202. Raider Ray Says:

    Kell, I agree and believe Al Davis is a lousy GM.

  203. Raider Ray Says:

    ArmChair, what do you know about facts?

  204. Raider75 Says:

    Let’s get a pool going….

    Over/Under the number of catches by Heyward-Bust this Sunday.

    Let’s start at 3

    Over/Under?

  205. fat kidd Says:

    new post ladies

  206. JLofty Says:

    238: even

  207. Raider O Says:

    Dell,

    I owe you a response about Unions. I know I do, but I was busy last few weeks with my 1st midterms. Please excuse my delayed response, but I forgot all about it tell you said something today.
    I will try to look for that post, and I will respond ASAP.
    I appreciate your patience.

  208. MikieG Says:

    Jacoby Ford made the play of the game recovering the Zach Miller Fumble, watch it again, he was like a d@mn leopard jumping on a springbok…FANTASTIC play Ford, absolutely Heads UP PERFECT lightning fast recovery, it was a one in a hundred type play….Well done man.

  209. MikieG Says:

    Any of you guys think that Branch shoulda downed that fumble recovery at the 1 yard line so we could have ran out the clock instead of giving Rivers a chance to march on us again? We were dodging bullets until the last play. I realize that the emotion caught up with everyone but I think the smart play would have been to down that sucker and run out the clock….

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