Not so fast on McFadden
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 14th, 2010 at 11:39 am in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders running back Darren McFadden was less than optimistic at assessing his chances to play Sunday against the 49ers, while left guard Robert Gallery said he expected to start.
No official word about the starting quarterback, but it will be Jason Campbell. Offensive coordinator Hue Jackson said it “looks like” Campbell would start in place of Bruce Gradkowski, who is nursing an injured shoulder, but was leaving the final announcement up to coach Tom Cable.
Running back Michael Bennett returned to work after the birth of his third child, a son, and said he hoped to test his hamstring injury before practice.
More to come . . .
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October 14th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bcz24 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Raiders 17-13, Nick Miller houses one for an INT, defense gets 4 turnovers.
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Since when does ‘Not Zack’ Miller play defense?
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He must have meant Stevie Brown…
October 14th, 2010 at 11:41 am
yo
October 14th, 2010 at 11:42 am
dont sleep on the niners! get it done this week!
October 14th, 2010 at 11:42 am
1rst
October 14th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Oh, and first… awesome…
October 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Vernon Davis- 129 yards and a TD, the rest of there wideouts under 100 yards total.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Anyone heard of this new book called “Bada$$es?” Its about the Raiders in the 70’s. Going to Barnes and Noble today to try to pick it up. The Author on Sirius yesterday said he thinks this years Raiders remind him alot of the Raider teams from the 70’s. Lets hope that they start acting like it.
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wow. Are you serious? The Raiders oline suck. The WR’s suck. The D line sucks. The qb’s wouldn’t start anywhere else.
Key phrase was “the author on Serius says”…it’s said to encourage sales.
No one..as in NO ONE WOULD EVER STATE THIS YEARS TEAM IS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE RAIDERS OF THE 70′S.
that’s a damn insult to the players from that era…
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Hey Richochet, Did you hear the interview with the author on Sirius yeasterday? There was alot said in between too. I just don’t have the time to post the whole thing on here. Nor do I have a transcript. Calm down man.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Gore will get his yards, no question, but he won’t embarrass the run D like Chris Johnson or Arian Foster did.
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PA: thats fair
just FYI – the 49ers have the 3rd WORST running attack in the NFL
averaging just 78 rushing yards per game with 2 TD’s on the season
October 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
New post c-blocked me, so I’ll put my prediction here:
I’m goin’ balls out optimism. If there’s any game that it’s okay for this year, this is it.
Nnamdi and Routt each snag a pick off Smith. Gore will get his yards, no question, but he won’t embarrass the run D like Chris Johnson or Arian Foster did.
Campbell will be solid, if unspectacular. But that’s what we’ll need with Bush running well and Miller torching their safeties.
Raiders 33 – Niners 20. Print it.
Watch for this matchup: Seymour up against Mike Iupati. Iupati’s an awesome run blocker, but he can get abused in pass protection. Seymour’s lived in the opponent’s backfield much of the season. 2 sacks for Big Sey.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Nick Miller, at least 2 punt returns over 20 yards
October 14th, 2010 at 11:44 am
No official word about the starting quarterback, but it will be Jason Campbell. Offensive coordinator Hue Jackson said it “looks like” Campbell would start in place of Bruce Gradkowski, who is nursing an injured shoulder, but was leaving the final announcement up to coach Tom Cable.
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LOL!
Hue Jax is pretty smooth
October 14th, 2010 at 11:44 am
You all think that the 9ers home will be filled with RaiderFan?
October 14th, 2010 at 11:45 am
DMAC won’t play and thats good news. He should rest that hammy some more.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
# DMAC Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:42 am
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:38 am
DMAC Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:35 am
No way you compare CJ to Hall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chris Johnson looked good when he filled in for Hall a couple years ago, his play has gotten worse and Routt’s has improved. Seriously watch how many times he screws up on many different levels. I wanted the gut cut after last week, and that is not being dramatic.
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CJ has declined a bit, but thats because he’s old now (31)and has lost a step.
I still take him over play back 15 yards at the line of scrimmage Hall.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Match Up::
SF ranks 11th in passing yards per game with 234. 6 TD’s & 9 INT’s. comp percent 62.1 – QB Rating 71.6
Oak ranks 20th in passing yards per game with 205. 6 TD’s & 6 INT’s. comp percent 55.8 – QB Rating 73.2
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SF ranks 30th in rushing yards per game with 78. 2 TD’s & 3 fumbles. 3.7 yards per carry
Oak ranks 7th in rushing yards per game with 134. 3 TD’s & 2 fumbles. 4.4 yards per carry
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SF ranks 21st in passing yards allowed per game with 228. 9 TD’s against. 4 INT’s made. 10 sacks
Oak ranks 10th in passing yards allowed per game with 198. 10 TD’s against. 2 INT’s made. 10 sacks
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SF ranks 18th in rushing yards allowed per game with 111. 3 TD’s against. 0 forced fumbles. 3.9 yards per carry
Oak ranks 31st in rushing yards allowed per game with 148. 6 TD’s against. 1 forced fumble. 5 yards per carry
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
I live in Mass, and the local sports radio channels are talking about the Pats dealing Mankins. We can only pray that Big Al makes something happen. I’ll take a known commodity like Logan over a draft pick that you really don’t know will pan out.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
RRS,
I didn’t know their rushing attack was that bad, but it doesn’t surprise me, actually. They’ve got no one outside of Gore. Westbrook is over the hill and they refuse to utilize Anthony Dixon.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Would of been nice to have a RB with the speed to get outside of willis playing tho.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
just FYI – the 49ers have the 3rd WORST running attack in the NFL
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Gore is averaging 2 fumbles a game, and neither of their other 2 RBs are even touching the ball. Gore is a beast though, no joke, they better be ready to lay some hats on him. One on One arm tackles dont work with him.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:47 am
5 yards per carry
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OUCH! That says alot.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:47 am
SF 96 runs and 190 passes (attempts)
Oak 128 runs & 172 passes
Frank Gore has 124 touches in the 49ers first 5 games.
thats about 25 per game on average
Travis LaBoy leads SF in sacks with 3. I’m sure he remembers JCamp well …
we need a statement game from ROMAC and the rotating LT’s!
October 14th, 2010 at 11:48 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Would of been nice to have a RB with the speed to get outside of willis playing tho.
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You know Bush is pretty fast too… How about DHB on an end around once or twice, or DHB and Murph on a reverse. Get the ball in their hands and let them use their nasty speed.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:48 am
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CJ has declined a bit, but thats because he’s old now (31)and has lost a step.
I still take him over play back 15 yards at the line of scrimmage Hall.
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I would take him over Hall as well, that being said I would take some of our young guys over C. Johnson in a heartbeat. Could they do much worse?
October 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Here’s a little article for you Nick Miller fans!!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/13/SPGJ1FS9PP.DTL
October 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
This would be a great game to have RoMac spy Gore and let him live up to his draft status.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
marcedes lewis, was ricky dudly esque, before this his 4th year. Goes to show you that you must be patient with your pass catchers, its way too early to cash in our boys dhb and murph.
Boy captain kirk isnt even in the screen on most of these pays, when the play is over then you see him jogging into the picture sometimes. Looks like his teammates are ignoring him, when he is around the play, people are not responding to him. reminds me of how he was here last year.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
we need a statement game from ROMAC and the rotating LT’s!
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If RoMac blows up Gore on the screens like he has shown a penchant to do already he will cause at least 1 fumble.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Raiders 23-10
Our Defense puts a complete game together for once.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:50 am
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:48 am
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CJ has declined a bit, but thats because he’s old now (31)and has lost a step.
I still take him over play back 15 yards at the line of scrimmage Hall.
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I would take him over Hall as well, that being said I would take some of our young guys over C. Johnson in a heartbeat. Could they do much worse?
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True
October 14th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Gore is a beast though, no joke, they better be ready to lay some hats on him. One on One arm tackles dont work with him.
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the front seven on D has to have a repeat performance from last week. even if the secondary plays like they did last week Smith doesn’t have a 200 yards WR and he couldn’t throw for 400 if his life depended on it
October 14th, 2010 at 11:51 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Would of been nice to have a RB with the speed to get outside of willis playing tho.
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You know Bush is pretty fast too… How about DHB on an end around once or twice, or DHB and Murph on a reverse. Get the ball in their hands and let them use their nasty speed.
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Dude, I like the way you think. I was throwing some of the trick stuff out there last week and got blasted for it. The Raiders will need a little smoke and mirrors at some point in the season. KC’s been doing some things like this and its fun to watch.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Punk azz Kelly better come to play this Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 14th, 2010 at 11:52 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
This would be a great game to have RoMac spy Gore and let him live up to his draft status.
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Look forward to romac knocking his A$$ around…
October 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
This would be a great game to have RoMac spy Gore and let him live up to his draft status.
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Agreed!
October 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
That’s right the 49ers drafted two O-lineman in the first round…..
Should be good fuel for the fire that is the annual draft debate of when to pick O-lineman.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I would also like to see Ware or Mcfadden get some playing time. I’m not calling for them to be starting. Lets just see what the young ones got.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
DHB will have breakout game, teammates are in his ear how everyone is saying that Crabtree should have been first wideout taken in draft. DHB is pumped and will catch his 1st TD of the season-write that down.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
If RoMac blows up Gore on the screens like he has shown a penchant to do already he will cause at least 1 fumble.
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sweet!
that might officially put me on the McClain bandwagon
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I remember not long ago the Raiders used thier 1rst on a LT and thier 2nd on a C. Damn that sucked.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
This would be a great game to have RoMac spy Gore and let him live up to his draft status.
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Agreed!
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I second that!
October 14th, 2010 at 11:56 am
McClain has been a dissappointment to me for a while now. He did play lights out in the Texans game, only to drop off in the Chargers game.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:56 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 13th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
whats up Rich?
I see your boy Crabtree got it done last week!
I don’t think we’ll have a big Crabs vs DHB showdown this Sunday … do you?
I’m predicting something like 2 catches for 45 yards (Crab) and 1 catch for 7 yards (DHGhost)
Davis vs Miller = nice
Gore vs Bush = nice
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Sup Rock,
Re: Crab/Bey Crab started off season slow, but came out of his shell last week. Bey started off season slow, then bought really big cement shoes and bought Harry Potters invisibility cloak, because he’s either gone to a crawl, or disappeared all together.
I think Crab got over 100 yds last week. Bey got 100 inches….oh wait. Take off the 1. zero for last week.
I’m guessing Raiders will concentrate on shutting down Crab as much as possible, wanting to avoid the ’should have taken him” angle to follow.
And Raiders will definitely be throwing more and more at Bey, by orders of the Grand Poo-bah up in his guild-ed throne room, which could either be good, or really really bad.
Guess is Crab gets 6 catches, for 75 yds.
DHB gets 4 for 60
Good TE matchups, for sure. Gore is definitely better than Bush as far as talent, but Gore pretty much sucks this year, so that’s another good matchup.
Both olines are porous as hell, with rookies getting schooled.
Boils down to which qb handles the massive amount of pressure, because if either one lays a massive egg, costing the team the game (turnovers, fumbles, bad decisions) then that qb’s fans will tar and feather him, and they might as well ask to be traded, because both teams fans seem on the fence regarding Smith and Campbell.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Rock Cartright doesn’t get enough credit, he provides Grads like energy to the special teams.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:56 am
That’s right the 49ers drafted two O-lineman in the first round…..
Should be good fuel for the fire that is the annual draft debate of when to pick O-lineman.
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JFB, you know what debate I like better?
the one about nose tackles.
the Raiders have the highest paid trio of DT’s & MLB in the league with Kelly-Seymour-McClain and we’re ranked 31st against the run!
trade our 2nd & 3rd to Washington for Fat Albert
October 14th, 2010 at 11:57 am
HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
DHB will have breakout game, teammates are in his ear how everyone is saying that Crabtree should have been first wideout taken in draft. DHB is pumped and will catch his 1st TD of the season-write that down.
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This is the kind of schht I’m worried about. The Raiders trying to make a DHB statement.
October 14th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Let’s go with Jason Campbell and Michael Bush for this game as starters, Bush is solid and a hamstring injury can linger and be easily reaggrevated especially by such a speedy player like Mcfadden
October 14th, 2010 at 11:58 am
trade our 2nd & 3rd to Washington for Fat Albert
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how about just a 3rd and a bag of harvest cheddar sun chips.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
DHB will have breakout game, teammates are in his ear how everyone is saying that Crabtree should have been first wideout taken in draft. DHB is pumped and will catch his 1st TD of the season-write that down.
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What I’ll write down is you have a penchant for chasing parked cars.
Last 3 games: DHB-3 receptions, then 2, then zero.
Seriously, stating “he’s pumped”??
Really? players need to get pumped, in the NFL, when getting millions to perform?
If that’s the case, they shouldn’t be in the NFL.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
This is the kind of schht I’m worried about. The Raiders trying to make a DHB statement.
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I hear ya, It could work out in our favor or lead to our demise. Hopefully DHB proves people wrong and does something special Sunday.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Gots to run…………………
LATER NATION!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Seymour and Haynesworth would be a pretty ungodly tandem, I must say…
Still, Fat Albert seems to be catching on in Washington finally. Think that window has closed.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
This is the kind of schht I’m worried about. The Raiders trying to make a DHB statement.
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Kell, dont worry man
JCamp wont try to force feed DHB just because Al Davis wants him to. he’ll throw it to the guys who can catch. the guys that he trusts.
Bush, DMAC, Miller and perhaps Murphy (but he’s dropped too many for my taste as well)
I like JCamp playing conservative. We don’t need to go pass happy with a crappy OL & WR Corps!
run the ball & stop the run = wins
October 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
inonewordraider Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Let’s go with Jason Campbell and Michael Bush for this game as starters, Bush is solid and a hamstring injury can linger and be easily reaggrevated especially by such a speedy player like Mcfadden
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Ok, lets do it.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
The reason i think campbell will eventually thrive with this team he has the most important skills that a good qb needs.
1. He reads defense. You can see his head turning while dropping back, and in the shotgun, going through his reads. bruce was cool but he seldom goes through all of his reads, looked like sometimes his mind is made up before the snap. however his improve skill is pretty decent.
2. Accuracy, once he’s made the read he delivers the ball with accuracy, and velocity, or touch.
3. Game management, he doesnt force a lot of balls. I think it is better to have a guy that a little more conservative than a gun slinging farve type. Even though gun slingers makes it exciting, the turn overs kill you.
I think this is the biggest difference between qbs like montana and young, vs farve ( the most overrated qb ever).
4. Size, you need it in the nfl. if you are not 6″2 or taller, you wont be very good, very few short guys can make it.
Then the bonus. He has the rocket arm.
He only needs more time.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Punk azz Kelly better come to play this Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I’m curious bout sumthin…does a hundred exclamation marks make the point more than one or two?
Or does it just make you feel like you’re announcing it..with authority?
Just curious
October 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Good afternoon RR, H Bush, NATION!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Last 3 games: DHB-3 receptions, then 2, then zero.
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True, but I saw at least 2 plays where DHB was wide open and could have easily scored on both plays. Campbell needs to take a few chances throwing the ball down field. If DHB doesn’t catch it, than theres a great possibility there will be a PI call.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I’m guessing Raiders will concentrate on shutting down Crab as much as possible, wanting to avoid the ’should have taken him” angle to follow.
And Raiders will definitely be throwing more and more at Bey, by orders of the Grand Poo-bah up in his guild-ed throne room, which could either be good, or really really bad.
Guess is Crab gets 6 catches, for 75 yds.
DHB gets 4 for 60
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Rich, nice take
I can see that happening
any thoughts on the final score?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
DHB will have breakout game, teammates are in his ear how everyone is saying that Crabtree should have been first wideout taken in draft. DHB is pumped and will catch his 1st TD of the season-write that down.
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What I’ll write down is you have a penchant for chasing parked cars.
Last 3 games: DHB-3 receptions, then 2, then zero.
Seriously, stating “he’s pumped”??
Really? players need to get pumped, in the NFL, when getting millions to perform?
If that’s the case, they shouldn’t be in the NFL.
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Let’s face it, this dude needs any kind of spark or confidence builder he can. It is sad, but the kid has a good attitude and I’m pulling for him. I didn’t want primadonna Crabtree, he didn’t want to play for the Raiders anyway. To answer your question: I agree the $$ should be ample motivation, I just think in this case the “track star” needs something to build on to get rolling, I’m thinking this may be the week-I guess we’ll see.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Punk azz Kelly better come to play this Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I’m curious bout sumthin…does a hundred exclamation marks make the point more than one or two?
Or does it just make you feel like you’re announcing it..with authority?
Just curious
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both
October 14th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I predict a much more conservative approach by the coaches this week with Campbell in there. MB better buckle that chin strap. Lots of tough 3-4 yard runs, play-action, quick outs, screen passes, with maybe a heave it up bomb or 3 spread throughout the game in hopes of catching the 49ers sleeping or drawing a P.I. flag. Don’t think they ask Campbell to drop back and read the D much. Just quick, predetermined, vanilla stuff. Much like what Kiffin used to run when JaMarcus first stepped in.
And I think that’s probably the best approach with Campbell. Create a safe, low-risk/low reward game for him and try to get the hell out of there with a 17-14 win.
Of course, that means we’re going to have to lean on the defense to come up big this week. And if the D struggles early we’ll have to just start winging it.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Good afternoon RR, H Bush, NATION!
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sup bro
October 14th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Florio is a Raider Hater…hope we win this and make him look like he don’t know what he’s talking about!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I predict a much more conservative approach by the coaches this week with Campbell in there. MB better buckle that chin strap. Lots of tough 3-4 yard runs, play-action, quick outs, screen passes, with maybe a heave it up bomb or 3 spread throughout the game in hopes of catching the 49ers sleeping or drawing a P.I. flag. Don’t think they ask Campbell to drop back and read the D much. Just quick, predetermined, vanilla stuff. Much like what Kiffin used to run when JaMarcus first stepped in.
And I think that’s probably the best approach with Campbell. Create a safe, low-risk/low reward game for him and try to get the hell out of there with a 17-14 win.
Of course, that means we’re going to have to lean on the defense to come up big this week. And if the D struggles early we’ll have to just start winging it.
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Why do you say this, too protect our oline?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Of course, that means we’re going to have to lean on the defense to come up big this week. And if the D struggles early we’ll have to just start winging it.
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I feel better “winging it” with Grads, definetley not JC’s style.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
its just fun to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I don’t think our run d is that bad I mean we owend chargers rams and the cardinals dident do that good we got desroyed by foster and johnson but gore is not nearly as good as either of them he’s all he gets 68 yards and 1 touchdown
October 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Morrison finally gets into the hole, and fred jackson shook him out of his cup. Why did the jags think he could play in the middle?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
# bcz24 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:46 am
just FYI – the 49ers have the 3rd WORST running attack in the NFL
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Gore is averaging 2 fumbles a game, and neither of their other 2 RBs are even touching the ball. Gore is a beast though, no joke, they better be ready to lay some hats on him. One on One arm tackles dont work with him.
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One of the reasons the Niners OC, Jimmy Raye, got fired.
Arguably the worst play calling I’ve seen since Trestman.
Read this morning how Niners are second in NFL for “up the middle” on run plays.
Strongest/best lineman Niners have is Staley at LT, and if Niners wisen up, and start running Gore around left side, he’ll make a difference.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:56 am
McClain has been a dissappointment to me for a while now. He did play lights out in the Texans game, only to drop off in the Chargers game.
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I thought the other way around.
He was completely lost in the Texans game and whiffed a number of times. I thought he tracked the ball rather well in the SD game and shut down some screens and dump offs.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I think kirk could have played WIL he would have been good better than scott
October 14th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I wasn’t for drafting DHB with the 7th or 8th pick but I like the kid. He’s got physical skills/gifts and is a hard worker. But he’s young and WRs usually take a while to catch on in this league.
So that being said I do NOT think he’ll have a breakout game against the 9Balls this week. He may or may not have one this season at all. But certainly not with Campbell at QB at this point in the season. That broken play where DHB was WIDE open and Campbell either ran it OB or dumped it or whatever he did, that play says it all. Campbell isn’t really looking for him like Grad seems to.
I also don’t think Cable and HueJ are going to try and make any statements regarding him and Crabgrass. I think Cable is trying to focus the guys on winning and unless they’ve seen some matchup deal where they are going to exploit it until the 9Balls stop it they will just try to win. Hopefully anyway.
And I hope DHB shuts me down and goes MONSTER on the 9Ball DBs.
That’d be sweet after all those tools got uppity after that draft. Fools they deserve their carppy owner/coach/team.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Just looking at the NFL power rankings on CBS.com
they had Oak at 24 and MIN at 23. Just weird to see those 2 teams so close in the rankings, it’s been a while.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I agree popcicle.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Does Kirk play for the Raiders? NO, next topic.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Don’t expect much from DHB in his “SHOWDOWN” with Crabtree this week.
Campbell has only thrown it his way a handful of times this year and I doubt that changes on Sunday. Don’t think Crabtree does a whole lot either though. Much more concerned with Gore and DaDavis.
Crabtree: 4 catches, 37 yards, 0 TDs
DHB: 1 catch, 11 yards, 1 35-yard P.I. flag drawn, 0 TDs
Murphy: 2 catches, 50 yards, possibly 1 TD
October 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
This Raider team may not be as good as the 70’s Raiders.
BUT, THE FEAR IS NEAR!!!!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Chris you forget that we had to run that same vanilla O carp most all last season too with Jamayonnaise at the helm.
Say what you want about both Grads and Campbell they are both MUCH more professional and worthy than Jasizzurp ever was.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
# popcicledrip Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I don’t think our run d is that bad I mean we owend chargers rams and the cardinals dident do that good we got desroyed by foster and johnson but gore is not nearly as good as either of them he’s all he gets 68 yards and 1 touchdown
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Run d is wildly inconsistent, i think this more about the fact that this is a losing team that doesnt rarely puts together four solid quarters, let alone back to back games.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
DHB: 1 catch, 11 yards, 1 35-yard P.I. flag drawn, 0 TDs
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I wouldn’t be mad to see DHB draw some long P.I. calls. It may not show up in the newspaper as a stat, but it helps our team move the ball.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I predict a much more conservative approach by the coaches this week with Campbell in there. MB better buckle that chin strap. Lots of tough 3-4 yard runs, play-action, quick outs, screen passes, with maybe a heave it up bomb or 3 spread throughout the game in hopes of catching the 49ers sleeping or drawing a P.I. flag. Don’t think they ask Campbell to drop back and read the D much. Just quick, predetermined, vanilla stuff. Much like what Kiffin used to run when JaMarcus first stepped in.
And I think that’s probably the best approach with Campbell. Create a safe, low-risk/low reward game for him and try to get the hell out of there with a 17-14 win.
Of course, that means we’re going to have to lean on the defense to come up big this week. And if the D struggles early we’ll have to just start winging it.
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Why do you say this, too protect our oline?
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Partially. I think SF is going to attack with blitzes and Campbell doesn’t read and react fast enough and won’t make the tough throws to make them pay.
Factor in the o-lines inconsistency and frequent leakiness and it’d be a bonanza of turnovers and sacks.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# JLofty Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Chris you forget that we had to run that same vanilla O carp most all last season too with Jamayonnaise at the helm.
Say what you want about both Grads and Campbell they are both MUCH more professional and worthy than Jasizzurp ever was.
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the raiders were not vanilla against sd on offense, why would they be vanilla against the niners?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
rr, hangover 2, scream 4, and potter 3D also!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
I hope carsile retires after this year he’s horrible we need to sign big name tackle next offseason like colombo that would be a great move
October 14th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
JLofty Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Chris you forget that we had to run that same vanilla O carp most all last season too with Jamayonnaise at the helm.
Say what you want about both Grads and Campbell they are both MUCH more professional and worthy than Jasizzurp ever was.
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I agree. Big Grads fan actually and I’d say Campbell is about even with Collins — behind Gannon and Grads — but better than the rest we’ve had in the last 10 years.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
when’s hangover 2 coming out? is it the same cast?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
The Author on Sirius yesterday said he thinks this years Raiders remind him alot of the Raider teams from the 70’s.
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Tsk tsk, RNO. (he’s trying to sell the book)
October 14th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Chris in NY Says:
Partially. I think SF is going to attack with blitzes and Campbell doesn’t read and react fast enough and won’t make the tough throws to make them pay.
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I will partially agree, i think the niners will blitz for two reasons. They are a 3-4 team, that scheme is about blitzing, but this also the only way they can generate heat.
To say capmbell doesnt read or react to the blitz, not true. he picked the dichargers apart. They tried to heat him up, it worked on campbells first series, after that he pretty much owned them.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
DHB: 1 catch, 11 yards, 1 35-yard P.I. flag drawn, 0 TDs
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I wouldn’t be mad to see DHB draw some long P.I. calls. It may not show up in the newspaper as a stat, but it helps our team move the ball.
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BINGO!
Take a few chances down field. Draw a few PI calls.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Mistic I was just stating that we had to go Van last year in addition to when lance muffin was here.
No I don’t think we have to go Vanilla with Campbell, he looked a lot more comfortable in the second half last week than in either of the two first games.
I think HueJ has done an outstanding job calling games with a few exceptions (those 3 runs goalline comes to mind). Especially considering what he’s had to work with….
I think it is going to be a more defensive battle quite frankly tho. I see scoring in the teens for both teams.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Does Kirk play for the Raiders? NO, next topic.
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Any fool knows he plays in jax now. i am watching to see the difference in his game vs. romac. Romac is a major upgrade so far.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
(SIGH)
RRS — I see after I left yesterday you continued to call me a liar for pointing out the truth (in your own words)…so here I am again, to defend my good name on this board. Since you’ve tried so hard to make it seem like I made up YOUR actions, and called me a liar in here, we’ll just let the people see the truth:
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Wasn’t that a game show? YOU ARE THE WEAKEST CHINK!
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who won?
the guy who only had 2 children?
RaiderRockstar Says:
China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.
why did they do this? overpopulation!
hence the joke about the weakest only having 2 kids …
HD37, I did not use racism or slang. if you wish to attack somebody or make false accusations I suggest you get your story straight.
RaiderRockstar Says:
HD37, in review …
“my own words” as you put it, had nothing to do with racism or slang.
I made a joke, but it wasn’t inappropriate or hurtful to others. if it was I assume Becker would have removed it by now, right?
it was not off color, you’re still a liar.
i’m not red faced. you certainly made up the fact that I called somebody a “chink”
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Now, RRS — I never said you called anyone anything…but, I did point out that you MORPHED someone else’s use of the otherwise innocuous word into a joke. That is the TRUTH, even according to you.
Now, you claim your joke had nothing to do with racism or slang…if that’s true, why did you equate that particular word with people of Chinese heritage? You may not have started the use of the word, but you put it into the racial context with your joke.
You claim your off-color joke wasn’t inappropriate or hurtful…yet you propagated the use of a derogatory term referring to Chinese people.
Do you think it’s at all possible that our brothers and sisters of Chinese descent might be offended in the slightest?
Careful, RRS — Your Tea Bag is showing again!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
91. Agreed. Although I do think KM may have been a good WIL for us.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Fremont High Tigers!
Go Raiders!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
One of the reviews at Amazon says “Badasses” is basically a rehash of the same stories that have been passed around for years about the ’70s Raiders. I have Stabler’s book, Madden’s first couple of books, Tatum’s book, and Tooz’s book. I’ve also seen every documentary film made about that team. I doubt there’s much else I can learn about the ’70s Raiders without time traveling to 1974 and hanging out with the players themselves. It’s time for the Raiders to win now and start a new era…and, interestingly enough, that’s what a lot of the players on the 2000 team said in an HBO Inside The NFL report on them midway though that season, when it was obvious they were for real. Gannon and those guys basically said that being compared to the ’70s Raiders annoyed them. They were the 2000 Raiders. They wanted to make THEIR mark. That’s the attitude the Raiders need. Not, “oh, look, he’s our next Cliff Branch”
October 14th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
DHB will have breakout game, teammates are in his ear how everyone is saying that Crabtree should have been first wideout taken in draft. DHB is pumped and will catch his 1st TD of the season-write that down.
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What I’ll write down is you have a penchant for chasing parked cars.
Last 3 games: DHB-3 receptions, then 2, then zero.
Seriously, stating “he’s pumped”??
Really? players need to get pumped, in the NFL, when getting millions to perform?
If that’s the case, they shouldn’t be in the NFL.
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Let’s face it, this dude needs any kind of spark or confidence builder he can. It is sad, but the kid has a good attitude and I’m pulling for him. I didn’t want primadonna Crabtree, he didn’t want to play for the Raiders anyway. To answer your question: I agree the $$ should be ample motivation, I just think in this case the “track star” needs something to build on to get rolling, I’m thinking this may be the week-I guess we’ll see.
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Always said that two positions are complete “head game” positions. QB and kicker..if they press too much, they tighten up, and results are disastrous.
Add to that receivers who have something to prove.
When DHB is comfortable (training camp, where everyone predicted he’s turned the corner) he’s solid, but game time, between the ears becomes his enemy.
once he settles down, he’ll be ok.
question is, when will that happen?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# JLofty Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Mistic I was just stating that we had to go Van last year in addition to when lance muffin was here.
No I don’t think we have to go Vanilla with Campbell, he looked a lot more comfortable in the second half last week than in either of the two first games.
I think HueJ has done an outstanding job calling games with a few exceptions (those 3 runs goalline comes to mind). Especially considering what he’s had to work with….
I think it is going to be a more defensive battle quite frankly tho. I see scoring in the teens for both teams.
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We were bland on offense for so long, I had forgotten what offense looked like.
I am amazed by what hu-jak has done, in a short time, and what he has to work with. Seems like the entire tempo and personality of the offense, is something we havent seen for along time. i wish we had that kind of personality on defense, they are a little to lax and casual. i look forward to our young defesnive players growing into vocal leaders.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# JLofty Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Chris you forget that we had to run that same vanilla O carp most all last season too with Jamayonnaise at the helm.
Say what you want about both Grads and Campbell they are both MUCH more professional and worthy than Jasizzurp ever was.
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the raiders were not vanilla against sd on offense, why would they be vanilla against the niners?
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I disagree. We only completed 2 passes to our WRs all day — one of them a screen pass.
Campbell may have completed only one pass that was 10+ yards in the air all day. There were I think 4 others that gained 10+ yards but those were screens or passes where the tight end caught it in the 5-10 yard range and picked up some extra yardage.
That’s pretty vanilla to me. I think it was more of Campbell’s style than Hue’s playcalling though. This week I suspect Hue Jackman reins it in and adopts a more simple, conservative approach with 2 or 3 pre-planned, strategic strikes down tha field.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
And the Niners are starting to get just as bad. Every time they draft a QB he’s “the next Montana”. They’ve got Hindsight Disease over there too.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
One of the reviews at Amazon says “Badasses” is basically a rehash of the same stories that have been passed around for years about the ’70s Raiders. I have Stabler’s book, Madden’s first couple of books, Tatum’s book, and Tooz’s book. I’ve also seen every documentary film made about that team. I doubt there’s much else I can learn about the ’70s Raiders without time traveling to 1974 and hanging out with the players themselves. It’s time for the Raiders to win now and start a new era…and, interestingly enough, that’s what a lot of the players on the 2000 team said in an HBO Inside The NFL report on them midway though that season, when it was obvious they were for real. Gannon and those guys basically said that being compared to the ’70s Raiders annoyed them. They were the 2000 Raiders. They wanted to make THEIR mark. That’s the attitude the Raiders need. Not, “oh, look, he’s our next Cliff Branch”
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Didnt seymour say that same thing this year too. i respect what those guys did, but we need to form our own legacy. I love it.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
LOL. “Hindsight Disease”, in SF…. Just realized how that read. Fire away.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Mistic, isn’t it funny that the real players on the Raiders just don’t seem to be fond of these comparisons to past Raiders? It’s almost as if they’re offended. They didn’t get to where they’re at living in the shadows of past players. They believe they’re BETTER than the past players. That’s the attitude that got them where they are.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Chris in NY Says:
the raiders were not vanilla against sd on offense, why would they be vanilla against the niners?
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I disagree. We only completed 2 passes to our WRs all day — one of them a screen pass.
Campbell may have completed only one pass that was 10+ yards in the air all day. There were I think 4 others that gained 10+ yards but those were screens or passes where the tight end caught it in the 5-10 yard range and picked up some extra yardage.
That’s pretty vanilla to me. I think it was more of Campbell’s style than Hue’s playcalling though. This week I suspect Hue Jackman reins it in and adopts a more simple, conservative approach with 2 or 3 pre-planned, strategic strikes down tha field.
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Hu jack did not call a vanilla game at all. The san diego safeties played back to take the deep stuff away, so campbell abused them underneath, Thats not vanilla, thats smart.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
Vegas — I agree with your earlier statement about DHB having to stop and turn to go after balls thrown his direction…but it’s not as simple as saying DHB can’t catch while running.
When a WR makes a move that beats (or potentially beats) a DB, the window for throwing the ball timely is very small, actually. DHB has beaten his man (or men) a number of times, but the ball hasn’t been released. By the time the ball’s released, the route either is compromised or the DB has recovered sufficiently enough to disrupt the play.
Grads and DHB have much better timing than Campbell and DHB do…and not releasing the ball in a timely fashion has hurt JCampbell with receivers other than DHB, too. The only way DHB will continue to grow as a downfield threat is if he gets the ball in a timely fashion, and with plenty of opportunities to catch it in-stride.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Mistic, isn’t it funny that the real players on the Raiders just don’t seem to be fond of these comparisons to past Raiders? It’s almost as if they’re offended. They didn’t get to where they’re at living in the shadows of past players. They believe they’re BETTER than the past players. That’s the attitude that got them where they are.
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I love what the silver and black means historically. But i love even more the idea of working hard to fashion your own story. One thing, (the only thing), Ill give cable credit for, is the way he has been able to work with davis, to get rid of the loafers and half steppers. he has reshaped the locker room with guys that dont seem to be selfish. we had a selfishness problem even on our last super bowl team.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Alex Smith = Montana
Campbell = Plunkett
lol!
October 14th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
The QB’s don’t seem to be having timing trouble with the TE.
Murphy makes plays. Not DHB. Not even in the Red Zone.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Hu jack says ” we want to build a bully on offense”.
Davis say ” we dont take what the defense gives us we take what we want”
I like this mix, if we can rebuild our o-line, and continue to develop our young guys, our offense will be scary next year.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Hu jack says ” we want to build a bully on offense”.
I think that is what the goal line and short yardage runs have been about, giving the team an attitude. Dont be cute, im gonna run you over, try and stop me.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
HD37: you’re a liar
I think I proved that
twist, squirm or try to convince others that you didn’t all you want
NEXT …
“Careful, RRS — Your Tea Bag is showing again!”
I don’t even know what that means
October 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Another scenario, Mistic.
Who were the ’70s Raiders trying to be like? What past Raider team were Davis, Wolf, and Madden trying to build them like? They weren’t even thinking about the past. They were just building the best team they could for that era. That’s probably what Al should do NOW. Build a team for NOW. For THIS league. Stop trying to look for comparisons to past players. He didn’t do that when building the ’70s teams.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
“Smoke and Mirrors”-How about a little no huddle? Especially when McFadden comes back healthy, we can go 5 wide with our base package (McFadden and Reese Lining up as receivers.) I am assuming Reese can run patterns, being a former WR.
This could help our protection issues.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/teabagging4jesus.jpg
October 14th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Hu jack did not call a vanilla game at all. The san diego safeties played back to take the deep stuff away, so campbell abused them underneath, Thats not vanilla, thats smart.
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LMAO!!!!
you mean how he dumped off 50% of his passes like he has always done in his ENTIRE CAREER. Why dont you look up his career stats in yds per completion? Compare it to weak arm guy like Jeff Garcia or Drew Brees? I already know the answer.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
The QB’s don’t seem to be having timing trouble with the TE.
Murphy makes plays. Not DHB. Not even in the Red Zone.
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Miller has the best hands so the qbs trust him and look for him. Also he has gotten a lot of single coverage underneath and intermediate range, so he is easy to find.
I would love to see campbell heave a couple of deep ones to dhb, and throw him some fades in the endzone, when they get inside the red zone. i believe this will all come the more these guys play together.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Yah our offense has been borderline scary for the last 5 years just ask tj.
Problem is we dont build our O-line. Cable has wrecked and made the O-line garbage! Our WR group couldn’t be more inept.
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Mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I like this mix, if we can rebuild our o-line, and continue to develop our young guys, our offense will be scary next year.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
r8eray Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Alex Smith = Montana
Campbell = Plunkett
lol!
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damn funny for sure. I mean between the two of them they went through 15 OC’s. How about Alex Smith = Campbell? We could trade for either of them and the results would be exactly the same.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Murphy makes plays? How many balls has DHB dropped this year, and how many has Murphy dropped? When were those drops? Murphy should’ve caught a crucial ball even YOU could have caught two weeks ago, KK.
DHB looks fine…he needs to see the ball more. Also, Jacoby Ford needs to see more reps as a WR — his natural, easy-to-get-open style could take him far (regardless of how he does as a KR or PR).
People calling for the heads of the young WR’s before they have matured in NFL terms should instead be calling for them to get fed the ball more frequently. Steady diet.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
So what is this story about Favre? Did he take a picture of his junk and send it to some chick?
October 14th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
He wanted to show her the hair’s only gray upstairs.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Miller makes plays. Murphy is ok as long as you dont send him over the middle. DHB is a ghost…..no 3rd WR even on the map! Every NFL team has 3 WR’s that contribute at least SOMETHING….we dont even have TWO!
We are playing with 1 hand tied behind our back.
The end
October 14th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I like this mix, if we can rebuild our o-line, and continue to develop our young guys, our offense will be scary next year
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Geez, you’re such a clown.
Rebuild the oline..and offense will be SCARY NEXT YEAR??
Next year?
You believe you can rebuild DURING THE YEAR?? and all of a sudden it’s effective the following year?
Slap a duh on your forehead, clown.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
http://product-image.tradeindia.com/00171503/b/0/Tea-Bag.jpg
is this an insult or something?
I don’t get it …
October 14th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
“Smoke and Mirrors”-How about a little no huddle?
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Excellent Point!
Ans: The Raider’s haven’t been competent enough to run a no-huddle, sugar-huddle, even get lined-up properly in a generation.
The Raiders and the QB would have to be in the same offensive system/vocabulary for a few years to master a offense and be able to pull those things off. Like Manning/Brady and a few others.
October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
October 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Anybody defending DHB is on his payroll. Through 5 games DHB has 11 catches for 142, Murphy has 18 for 304. DHB averages 2 catches per game, thats why the call him “more names than catches”….
October 14th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
was chester pitts a FA this year I thought he was
October 14th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
was chester pitts a FA this year I thought he was
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I think he signed with Seattle
October 14th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
RRS — Take it back, and I’ll let it drop. You know I made nothing up.
You propagated (you know, helped further) the use of a slang term that has been out of style since Archie Bunker showed everyone just how un-funny it is.
Now, either you did it not knowing it’s a derogatory term…or you did it on purpose, knowing fully what it was. My preference is to let it go, and assume the innocent of those two options.
But, I won’t let it go if you just admit I didn’t make any of it up.
BTW — I think you may semi-frequent one of my in-laws’ diners!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
The only buffoon I’ve seen defend DHB is priesttj, is there another moron in here ?
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Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Anybody defending DHB is on his payroll
October 14th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Yah our offense has been borderline scary for the last 5 years just ask tj.
Problem is we dont build our O-line. Cable has wrecked and made the O-line garbage! Our WR group couldn’t be more inept.
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Mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I like this mix, if we can rebuild our o-line, and continue to develop our young guys, our offense will be scary next year.
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Our o-line play was actually way worse just before Cable got here in the Art Shell II season. That line was a trainwreck.
As an o-line specialist though Cable should have that group much better than it is now.
I will say this for the o-line, they have consistently helped our backs churn out 100+ yard games. They’re doing a good job of run-blocking. Pass protection has been very inconsistent though.
Haven’t heard Satele’s name much since he was reinserted back into the lineup and that’s a good thing. He seems to be getting it done. Loper has filled in nicely. And they did a great job in pass protection in the 2nd half of the SD game.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
we should have signed him he’s better than any thing we got exept gallery
October 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Does Kirk play for the Raiders? NO, next topic.
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Any fool knows he plays in jax now. i am watching to see the difference in his game vs. romac. Romac is a major upgrade so far.
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Who cares, Judge RoMac on what he does/ doesn’t do.
no offense but compating him to Kirk is a waste of time.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
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It’s embarrassing how we continually allow people to have career days on us. I remembered how SD used to struggle running the ball and then we help them fix it. Something tells me we are going to help the Niners fix their W/L record.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Hu jack did not call a vanilla game at all. The san diego safeties played back to take the deep stuff away, so campbell abused them underneath, Thats not vanilla, thats smart.
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LMAO!!!!
you mean how he dumped off 50% of his passes like he has always done in his ENTIRE CAREER. Why dont you look up his career stats in yds per completion? Compare it to weak arm guy like Jeff Garcia or Drew Brees? I already know the answer.
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Ok first off lets not get into a campbell vs. grads thing…again.
Checking down beats forcing the ball. Dumping the ball off and letting your athletes make plays is a good thing, especially when the defense is trying to take away the deep game. He drove down the field on two long time consuming drives doing it, and it helped us win the game.
That is called game management, Campbell is a natural and well schooled in this department. Being a good game manager, is one of the most important attributes a qb can have.
By the way, when your main weapons are chris cooly and santana moss, that limits your ability to go down the field. moss is not the vertical threat he was 5 years ago.
as he builds with our guys you will see them stretch the field.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
My preference is to let it go
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HD37, why did you bring it up in the first place?
I’m here to talk about Raiders football.
you’re obviously here to talk about racism and tea bags. Get Lost
October 14th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
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River City High School, West Sacramento, CA.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Well DHB needs to turn it around starting Sunday. People still waiting on breakout game from the young guy.
I still believe making too much out of the Craptree vs DHB thing. This game will come down to the 4th quarter and who will or wont choke.
I’m confident we can pull out a win but dont think the 49ers are chopped liver. Smith will have a short leash and SF plays better at home.
Should be one of the more exciting games of the week. I expect turnovers and big plays by both teams
October 14th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Chris,
Did you notice how Cable went out of his way to say that Loper is a “backup”? I thought that was very interesting. It’s like he’s going back to the bench when Gallery gets back. Al Davis is forcing V on us. The guy has averaged 1 whiff per game and is going to get JC killed this weekend.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
HD37,
pretty funny that you never actually said a word to the guy who did use the word “chink” … just me
odd, isn’t it?
never brought up that spade a spade comment you think I made either. you just dropped it
Hmmmm
I think you’re a liar and a sack of crap human being. now quit talking to me
October 14th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Gallery is back……excuse me while I do backflips
October 14th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Man I hope RoMac develops quickly cause our LBs look lost out there. I understand Wimbley & Scott looking lost, they are converted Dlinemen not accustomed to reading Offenses, but RoMac has struggled in his natural position, given he has had good plays here and there. Wish we had a real WLB and NT, our D would improve significantly.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Just looked at the Deadspin site…saw what might be Favre’s junk…must have been cold outside….
October 14th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I like this mix, if we can rebuild our o-line, and continue to develop our young guys, our offense will be scary next year
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Geez, you’re such a clown.
Rebuild the oline..and offense will be SCARY NEXT YEAR??
Next year?
You believe you can rebuild DURING THE YEAR?? and all of a sudden it’s effective the following year?
Slap a duh on your forehead, clown.
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Rebuild during the year!??!?! What are you talking about? I said next year. Meaning get veldeheer, and b campbell coached up. Continue during the draft to rebuild the o-line?
Bra reading is fundamental.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
DHB gets at least one more year.
I will go out on a limb and say he will shock the world next year.
PRO BOWL BABY!!!!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
He will learn to go up and fight for the ball
and some will rue the day
October 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Mistic,
You do you ever realize how you, Bauce and the rest of the JC fan club carry so many myths on JC?
I can debunk each and everyone of your myths on here.
1. Strong arm.
2. Less turnovers
3. More potential
4. Better leader
I’ve gone back and researched the nubmers and none of it seem to back up your claims on here. So please save me the excuses. I will believe it when I see JC actually show it on the field.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
most quarterbacks try to avoid the sack, brett favre takes pictures of his
October 14th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
DHB gets at least one more year.
I will go out on a limb and say he will shock the world next year.
PRO BOWL BABY!!!!
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LMAO that is funny stuff.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
lol…hey Loper can roll over to RG now!
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Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Gallery is back……excuse me while I do backflips
October 14th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Gallery and Carlisle…….softest svelte wimp OG combo in the league. That’s just a damn shame.
Carlisle is a journeyman guard who gets manhandled but Cable loves him. Good a guy who goes up against the better pass rushing DT sucks the big one
Gallery is a chump. Made me sick last night looking at the replay of him on the sidelines sporting the big beard and long hair as if he is a bad ass. He cant stay hurt for all I care and take Carlisle with him
October 14th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Thats if he does not flunk out of NFL 101 first.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
If DHB makes 4 catches a game for 55-ish yards (not unrealistic), his production would be that of a quality NFL WR. As long as those catches and yards mattered, that is (i.e., they’re not “hollow” stats when a game’s already been decided).
Not only is DHB ready to catch 4 balls per game, but he’s likely going to be catching more than that per game by the end of the year. I’ll even make a guess that (barring injury to himself) DHB will be catching +/- 6 per game by the last 5 games of the season. This of course means our very impressive Running game holds up all year.
If those things happen…the Raiders will be 9-7 or better, even after the bad start.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
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People thought cliff branch was a bust until his 3rd year. Some times it takes guys a while.
Also DHB is still young he is only what 20-21. he hasnt yet finished growing, and he hasnt yet matured physically/ mentally enough to play with the men in the nfl.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Al likes to give his track stars many years to prove him wrong
October 14th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Gallery is back……excuse me while I do backflips
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LOL @ ROG
Loper has played well man. what kind of difference do you expect big Rob to make ???
October 14th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Really Chris?
Art Shell’s O-line sucked too? Didn’t know! I bet A Walter would agree with you, thanks for stating the obvious to defend Cable.
Shell didnt get 5 years to turn it around. Not that he could but comparing Cable to Shell’s 1 year is basically just ignorant.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Good NFL teams work with needs.
Bad NFL teams work with ifs.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
hey Loper can roll over to RG now!
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nice one Brown! haha
October 14th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Does Kirk play for the Raiders? NO, next topic.
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Any fool knows he plays in jax now. i am watching to see the difference in his game vs. romac. Romac is a major upgrade so far.
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Who cares, Judge RoMac on what he does/ doesn’t do.
no offense but compating him to Kirk is a waste of time.
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If your not interested dont comment, but dont tell me what I can and cant do…mom.
I want to know if kirk got a bad rap, and if romac is an upgrade, so i compare the players.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
ROG, you were being sarcastic re: Gallery
gotcha!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Just an opinion on drafting 40 times:
1) DHB has never run away from anybody, ever.
2) Routt gets beaten deep routinley.
3) M. Bush has longer carries than Dmac.
hey Al, how bout draft people that do well in the high jump, or the cone drill, lets try that for 15 years and see if our team improves!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
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against the Raiders anyways
October 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
If DHB makes 4 catches a game for 55-ish yards (not unrealistic), his production would be that of a quality NFL WR. As long as those catches and yards mattered, that is (i.e., they’re not “hollow” stats when a game’s already been decided).
Not only is DHB ready to catch 4 balls per game, but he’s likely going to be catching more than that per game by the end of the year. I’ll even make a guess that (barring injury to himself) DHB will be catching +/- 6 per game by the last 5 games of the season. This of course means our very impressive Running game holds up all year.
If those things happen…the Raiders will be 9-7 or better, even after the bad start.
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9-7? haaaahahahahahahahaha
Man, a win thanks to some blocked punts and now DHB is all world and the Raiders are gonna win 9 games! Koolaid is really flowing now huh?
October 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Only RRS is sharp enough to not let a subtle joke go by….the rest of you are semi’s.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
hey Loper can roll over to RG now!
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nice one Brown! haha
October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Dakota
You said all DMAC needs is a head coach or Offense head who can use him properly. You have been saying that for two years.
Laugh all you want, DHB just needs a strong armed QB that can lay a pass right in his hands while on a full sprint or at least get real close.
He has a problem catching the ball, however for all we know a top ten QB could make DHB look like a top ten reciever
October 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
More specifically against #21 the most overrated player to ever wear the S & B.
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HairyBush Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Look at Malcolm Floyd. The dude is 29 already, but he didn’t come around until last season. Now he’s putting up 200 yard games…
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against the Raiders anyways
October 14th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Mistic,
You do you ever realize how you, Bauce and the rest of the JC fan club carry so many myths on JC?
I can debunk each and everyone of your myths on here.
1. Strong arm.
2. Less turnovers
3. More potential
4. Better leader
I’ve gone back and researched the nubmers and none of it seem to back up your claims on here. So please save me the excuses. I will believe it when I see JC actually show it on the field.
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LOL you still havent debunked it yet. Come on do we really need to go there with number 1? This is common knowledge man. Number 2 well you already shown who has more turnovers lol. Number 3…..again come on AIG, what potential does Grad have when he cant last a whole season? Number 4 is up in the air and no one at least not me ever said either QB was a better leader.
Funny I’ll actually believe Grad can be the game for the rest of the season when he is healthy…..problem is you and everyone else on this blog knows that will never happen. You make excuses for Grad and have been doing it all week my friend. Grad has yet to be beat a stout defense or win playing an entire game this season….just like Campbell. So I believe it when I see it too
October 14th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
who do you guys thiks better matt ryan or phillip rivers
October 14th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
If your not interested dont comment, but dont tell me what I can and cant do…mom.
I want to know if kirk got a bad rap, and if romac is an upgrade, so i compare the players.
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Hey, if you got the time to do that, knock yourself out. I still say it is irrelevent seeing as he doesn’t play for the Raiders anymore.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Routt gets beaten deep routinley.
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Macho,
He earned NCAA Outdoor All-American honors after finishing third in the 200 meters at the 2003 NCAA Outdoor Meet. In indoor track, he was named Conference USA’s Men’s 2004 Indoor Track Athlete of the Year after winning the 60-meter and 200-meter dashes and qualified to compete in the 60-meter and 200-meter dashes at the NCAA Indoor Championship. He is a two-time winner in the 200 meters at the NCAA Midwest Regional Championships.
At the 2005 NFL Combine, Routt was recorded as having the fastest 40 yard dash with a time of 4.25 seconds
Routt needed 6 years just to become an average football player!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
MB
IF Al had stuck with Art we would be a respectable team and 8-8 at the least.
Lance & JR set us back 5 years and we were already lower then a guttersnake
October 14th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Anyone remember Malcom Floyd who played for Houston Oilers/Tennesse Titans in ’90s? He’s actually the older brother of the Malcom Floyd in the league today. Their real last name is Seabron, but they changed it to Floyd after a racist incident with white relatives in the south (truth, not making this up). Unknown why both of their names are Malcom. George Foreman named a few of his sons George, too. The elder Malcom Floyd attended McClatchy high in Sacramento in the late ’80s (then going by Seabron).
October 14th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Mistic,
You do you ever realize how you, Bauce and the rest of the JC fan club carry so many myths on JC?
I can debunk each and everyone of your myths on here.
1. Strong arm.
2. Less turnovers
3. More potential
4. Better leader
I’ve gone back and researched the nubmers and none of it seem to back up your claims on here. So please save me the excuses. I will believe it when I see JC actually show it on the field.
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Are you starting another I hate jc conversation.
Arm strength isnt the most important quality, in my book.
Reading defense, making accurate throws, game management and size, these are the big attributes a qb can have in my book. Campbell has them.
Campbells arm strength is a bonus. ( you need it to run our offense).
October 14th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
DHB might become a top ten receiver after he becomes the receiver in his team. Right now DHB is behind ZMiller, DMac, Murph, MBush, & Schillins (who doesnt even play!). So he’s got his plate full before he is the QBs preferred choice here in Oak.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Routt is the second best CB we have on this team like I said in the pre-season when you semi’s and RRS were calling for his head. W McFadden might be the nickle when he’s healthy. CJ can watch and take notes in case a guy goes down.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RRS — You’re the guy who used the term in your joke. Nobody else had anything to do with it, even the original poster. Everybody read it.
Your spade-is-a-spade comment was inappropriate when it was made also. You’re pretty good at letting them slip-thru.
I knew I wasn’t going to “win” anything by trying to point-out how you are offending people…and I sure don’t expect you to change your beliefs…but stop acting so innocent about your ways (better yet, don’t use race-baiting and race-based jokes), and others will stop pointing-out how good you are at it.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Rivers is a crybaby mamasboy but he is one hell of a QB and he stays healthy
October 14th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Actually, I would think that Alex Smith takes more away more from the 9ers offense.
Since Alex Smith does better out of a shotgun and a shotgun formation takes away from the 9ers power running game (Frank Gore).
I think the 9ers would be a better team with Jason Campbell at the helm.
Also, I am very suprised that they do not use Brian Westbrook more in the passing game (split him out, where he thrived on the Eagles.)
Think Singulatary will pull a Tom Cable at the end of the year and blame everything on Alex Smith? (Not saying that Tom Cable was not justified)
October 14th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
haven’t heard much from the greatgradkowskiraider lately.. is he okay?
October 14th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
The year we drafted DHB I remember telling a number of people DHB is NOT the best WR in the draft. There are about Two posession WRs and 1 speedster that I think are more polished. They were Crabtree and Hakeem Nicks and Maclin down field. I said, all these guys can contribute immediatley. But if you ask me who had the measurables and coached up seems like they would have the better upside. I said it was DHB. If you look at his game at MD not only did he have the speed he had the height and the frame with more muscle to go up and catch the jump ball. There is always that WR sleeper that you just don’t plan for (Rice, TO, Colsten, Chad Johnson, etc.). Usually the top drafted WRs w/ exception Tim Brown never turn out to be worth their weight in gold. Now I did not consider him a #7 pick but I did think he had mad upside.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
HD37: you’re a piece of trash
i’ll post what I want when I want and I’ll decide whether or not it’s inappropriate…
you hear me, Corky?
October 14th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Schitlens will you ever be healthy enough to come back and play ball?
He may announce his retirement next year.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Schitlens will you ever be healthy enough to come back and play ball?
He may announce his retirement next year.
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lol
October 14th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 14th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
HD37: you’re a piece of trash
i’ll post what I want when I want and I’ll decide whether or not it’s inappropriate…
you hear me, Corky?
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All yeah a blog fight!!!! Get em RR!!!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
new post!
October 14th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
RRS — Just admit it was not an appropriate joke, and I’ll drop it.
By the way, how’s your day going? Mellow, I hope.
October 14th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
HD37: i’m fine with what I said then and I’m fine with it now
you sought me out for what reason? to prove what exactly? and why?
still don’t understand your “teabag” comment either. please elaborate
October 14th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Im reading BADASSES….. Im about 200 pages in… ITS A MUST READ FOR ANY RAIDER FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NYC DAVE…
October 14th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
I have to root for Jason Cambell because he is the quarterback of my team. I will definatly close my eyes everytime he drops back and give a prayer. Lets just see if he actually wins the game or if our running backs, defense, and special teams win the games. I sure just cant see all your arguments about Jason managing a game when he calls back to back timeouts and gets bailed out from the refs or doesnt call a time out when our guys are out of position or when he fumbles again cause he just wont throw the ball to someone or out of bounds. Or maybe one of his errant throws wont just go through the defenders hands and it will be a pick six. Looks like he is doing really well at managing a game… Grads turnovers have all been in the receivers chest or hands and so happens they get deflected so he gets credit for the pick.
October 14th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Let’s woop the Niners and put a nail in their coffin!!!!