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Live blog from Raiders-49ers game here on Sunday

By Jon Becker
Saturday, October 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Get instant analysis from the Battle of the Bay as Jerry McDonald keeps you updated during the Raiders vs. 49ers game on Sunday, Oct. 17 at 1 p.m.

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104 Responses to “Live blog from Raiders-49ers game here on Sunday”

  1. Plunketthead Says:

    I love me some Raider football

  2. Dub77 Says:

    I rather see the Raiders win.

  3. Plunketthead Says:

    You aint had football till you’ve had football you love

  4. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Won’t be blogging as much for tomorrow’s game.

    Got the in-laws over and I am on BBQ duty, and than after the game I have to pack up and drive 4 hours to Clovis, NM.

    No drinking, screaming at the TV with vial profanities or blogging on game day. Maybe I should wear a skirt to commerate the day, lol.

    *Sigh*

  5. 100PercentRaider Says:

    satele vs. franklin could be one of the keys to the game

  6. Plunketthead Says:

    How bout them Badgers!!

    If only the Wildcats could play football

  7. fat kidd Says:

    the key to the game in three words= shutdown gore.

  8. Plunketthead Says:

    The key to the game in two words = kick ass

  9. Plunketthead Says:

    RAIDERS BOMAYE !!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. fat kidd Says:

    Mark Cuban: NFL Work Stoppage Would Be ‘Huge Plus’ for UFL9
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    10/13/2010 8:55 PM ET By Tim Povtak

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    Tim Povtak
    Senior Writer
    Visionary businessman Mark Cuban is just a silent, minority partner now in the fledgling United Football League, but he gets excited about the possibilities that will exist if the omnipotent National Football League comes to a halt as expected when its current collective bargaining agreement expires after the season.

    Cuban is licking his chops, tweeting about the UFL weekly.

    He believes the presence of the UFL — and what it could do — will factor into the stalled, NFL labor/management negotiations that likely will lead to a lockout/work stoppage next fall.

    “A work stoppage (in the NFL) would be a huge plus for the UFL. There will be a lot of great players with bills to pay and the UFL will be there to hire them,” Cuban told FanHouse during an e-mail exchange earlier this week. “There will be millions of fans going through withdrawals. The UFL will be there to make them very, very happy.”

    Cuban has been the owner of the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA since 2000, orchestrating a franchise turnaround that has become a model in professional sports. He has done it by spending big money and doing everything first class, trumpeting fan/franchise interaction, a perfect fit for his outgoing, energetic nature and an eager market.

    Earlier this year, his $600 million bid to buy Major League Baseball’s Texas Rangers narrowly fell short. He previously tried to buy the Chicago Cubs.

    A lifelong football fan, Cuban got involved in the UFL earlier this year because he loved its potential , believing it could survive and thrive even when previous attempts for upstart football leagues have failed.

    “A work stoppage (in the NFL) would be a huge plus for the UFL. There will be a lot of great players with bills to pay and the UFL will be there to hire them.”
    –Mark Cuban The UFL, now in its second year, has five teams — playing in Orlando, Omaha, Las Vegas, Sacramento and Hartford. They are in the midst of an eight-game regular season that will culminate with a championship game at the end of November.

    Most of the rosters are at least half filled with varying degrees of NFL experience, from stars like Daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia to players who spent limited time in NFL training camps.

    More than 50 UFL players were signed by the NFL after last season ended. An average player in the UFL only makes an estimated $55,000, paid over the eight games. The starting quarterbacks make an estimated $200,000. Cuban is part of the league ownership, which controls at least 51 percent of each team.

    He also owns HDNet, the world’s only all high-definition national television network, which televises the UFL games.

    “The fact that the UFL will be there to give NFL players jobs could easily change the dynamics of the negotiations,” Cuban said.

  11. Plunketthead Says:

    Erect a billboard that says
    AL PLEASE SELL THE TEAM TO MARK

    Mark is a Raider

  12. Raiders for life Says:

    Tomorrow Huff needs to get back the missed arm tackle against Gore in the preseason.

  13. Plunketthead Says:

    Go Raiders!

    218.Plunketthead Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:57 am
    Lock of the week

    Wildcats over the Gamecocks

    Bet the old Kentucky home on this one
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That blue sure looks good

  14. Plunketthead Says:

    I hate to brag

    219.Plunketthead Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 8:59 am
    Badgers over buckeyes

    Everyone knows this will happen

  15. raidermarty Says:

    RAIDER run d AND pass d must have a complete effort to win
    RAIDERS 24 whiners 14
    Stop gore pressure smith win!!!!

  16. Raider O Says:

    Damn you Mich!!!!!!!!

  17. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    Pitos

  18. Kirk Says:

    Blitzing punishes the offense.

    Running the ball punishes the defense.

    Run the ball and blitz.

  19. r8eray Says:

    4.Just Fire Baby Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    Won’t be blogging as much for tomorrow’s game.

    Got the in-laws over and I am on BBQ duty, and than after the game I have to pack up and drive 4 hours to Clovis, NM.

    No drinking, screaming at the TV with vial profanities or blogging on game day. Maybe I should wear a skirt to commerate the day, lol.

    *Sigh*

    ———————–

    Scks to be in your shoes…look at the bright side, you still get to watch the game!
    I’ll drink enough beer for you and me…don’t worry, I got your back!
    ;)

  20. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Damn Plunk…..that two legger moneyline would have at least paid 8 for 1 if not a tad more.

    Unfortunately, neither of us live in Vegas anymore.

  21. r8eray Says:

    I got my bet in..too bad I took the points!

  22. RaidingTexas Says:

    @Just Fire: 4 fours from Clovis? Where do you live, man? I grew up in Lubbock, so I’m quite familiar with the area.

  23. Just Fire Baby Says:

    ABQ…..probably more like a 3 hours and 40 minutes.

  24. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ray,

    Cannery action?

    What was the moneyline?

  25. RaidingTexas Says:

    Cool. Pecos Wilderness area is an AWESOME place to backpack. Wish I lived as close to it as you do.

  26. r8eray Says:

    +250….man I regret it!

  27. Raider O Says:

    The Raiders better win tomorrow.
    Damn you Pryor!!
    Damn you Mich!!

  28. Raider O Says:

    Damn the badgers!!

  29. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wow. Is it the economy or just Raider fans having had enough? Eve of a game vs. Niners and there’s been 28 comments in the past 5 hours.

  30. Midwest Fan Says:

    If marleyraiders is around good luck tomorrow… Although your def better have like -20 pts, how you gonna start them this week. You should be ashamed.

  31. r8eray Says:

    RMR, everyone is getting rest for the long game tomorrow!
    Start time is 4:05pm!!

  32. r8eray Says:

    long day

  33. Midwest Fan Says:

    Go Hawaii!

  34. RaidingTexas Says:

    Hangover from the Giants game, maybe?

  35. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    R8eray, way to take one for the team.

    Just win baby. We need this game for all the right reasons.

  36. r8dercain Says:

    R8dercain Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 3:19 am
    Look personally idk who qb as long as the offense is scoring td’s.
    How I see it after five games were 2-3 each qb has won a game
    the defense lost one
    the kicker lost one
    an the offense lost one
    so if you look at it closely we sitting one game below five hundred
    ever facet of this team has helped win an lose games
    if the whole team plays well we will win on Sundays the WHOLE team
    that means ST,offense an defense or qb play won’t matter

  37. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    Wow. Is it the economy or just Raider fans having had enough? Eve of a game vs. Niners and there’s been 28 comments in the past 5 hours.
    ___________

    1. Bloggings free

    2. I think everyone’s standing on eggshells for this game. Rightfully so. This game is huge, bragging rights included.

  38. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    1. Bloggings free

    ……………

    LOL. Thanks. And, that’s obvious, when you consider the average IQ of this place. But what I was referring to was the bad economy resulting in an overall lack of interest in sports, in general.

  39. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
    8RaiderReign8 Says:
    October 16th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    1. Bloggings free

    ……………

    LOL. Thanks. And, that’s obvious, when you consider the average IQ of this place. But what I was referring to was the bad economy resulting in an overall lack of interest in sports, in general.
    ___________

    Raider fans seem to always be able to sink their sorrows into football. Given the predictions on this blog about the upcoming game, I hope they have a high IQ

  40. priesttj Says:

    If blitzing punished offenses to the point most people want to believe, every team in the NFL would do it every down. The truth is it doesn’t blitzing is Hazardous wether fans want to believe or not. That’s why some teams rarely evr blitz like most cover2 teams.

    But of course those that want to believe that will believe it wetehr it’s true or not. More often you blitz teams will start to gameplan your blitz package and render it ineffective…………period
    You have to have a base defense that’s mor geared towards balance if you don’t how is blitz any different than not blitzing at all. The trick is to use the blitz as a element of surprise which make sit almost devastating.

    Make sense??????

  41. JB Says:

    Keys to tomorrow’s game:
    OFFENSE
    •Ball security
    •Heavy doses of running
    •Stretch the field w/ DHB & JLH
    •Don’t play injured players
    •Score early and often

    DEFENSE
    •Don’t underestimate the opponent
    •Stuff the run
    •Pressure up the middle
    •Keep the heat on the QB
    •Get to Smith early
    •Shutdown the TE position
    •Get 3 INT’s

    SPECIAL TEAMS
    •Just play like last week
    •Get 1 takeaway, Score TD

    Playing 0 & whatever teams is scary. They have nothing to lose. This is where upsets come from. The 49er’s are a much better team that their record indicates. They could easily beat us if we don’t pay attention. This is going to be a tough game in their home field. We can do it but we need 4 solid quarters of focus & intensity.

  42. r8eray Says:

    Im trying to find a raider bar in L.A.
    anyone know of any?

  43. djohnnyg Says:

    Raiders should pick up Jonathon Crompton. Chargers released him from their practice squad.

    He flourished in his final year at Tennessee under Lane Kiffins “pro style” offense.

  44. GG Says:

    Raiders 40, Niners 10

  45. djohnnyg Says:

    I don’t like the fact that Cable said the game “will be decided in the 4th ouarter”. Wow. What confidence in his team.

  46. r8eray Says:

    good night raider nation…till tomorrow!

  47. Midwest Fan Says:

    What’s going on priest

  48. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha had a good game, we need to remember first two blocked punts by special teams were set up by Nnamdi’s, Mr. McClain, and Mr. Shaughnessy’s run stuffing tackles behind the line of scrimmage and pass defends.

    We will need to blitz, hopefully the raiders can get a two touchdown early in the game and pin their ears back and get after the quarterback.

  49. RaiderRetribution Says:

    JB I agree, Raiders need to be focused and haveintesity on every play.

    We must win the TO battle, by at least 1.

  50. Violent Hands Says:

    Badasses: The legend of Snake, Foo, Dr. Death, and John Madden’s Oakland Raiders, by Peter Richmond, Harper Collins, 358 pages.

    The Oakland Raiders of the early to mid 1970s were that team that appealed to the badass in everyone with their irreverent ways, epic partying, and lineup of unique, quirky and very talented personalities.

    They might not have been a winning dynasty (after five straight conference finals, they finally won it all -once -in 1976). But the black and silver logo remains iconic.

    Author Peter Richmond was among the legion of devoted fans. So it must have been a dream come true to write a book for which the research required talking to as many players and coaches from that era as he could.

    What Richmond came up with was fascinating, although probably not in the way he intended.

    Many of the badass Raiders have changed. They got old. They no longer want to talk about the past.

    “That several are now prone to play down their prior exploits is understandable, if a little baffling,” Richmond writes. “It’s as if age has shed their youthful skins. Perhaps they believe their frivolity diminishes their statures as football players when, in fact, it only embellishes them.”

    That’s the Raiders fan in him talking. In 2010, in a culture that has taken political correctness to a ridiculous level, they probably feel it no longer embellishes them one bit.

    Several, including Bob Brown, Dave Casper and Marv Hubbard, wouldn’t talk to him. Some, like receiver Fred Biletnikoff, would talk football but clam up when it came to reliving those crazy times off the field.

    Quarterback Ken Stabler boasted of all the “women’s undergarments” tacked up on the walls of his training-camp motel room in his autobiography. But after three divorces, he won’t go there now.

    “Some of these guys got grand-kids now,” said fullback Pete Banaszak, one of those who was happy to talk.

    Re-telling it all now is like opening up a time capsule, an

    anachronism up there with the Pacer, the Partridge Family and Evel Knievel.

    There have been pieces of it before, especially in Stabler’s tell-all. Owner Al Davis also was the subject of a book. Head coach John Madden wrote one.

    But this really is the first full compendium of that era. Perhaps, to get the full story, it comes a few decades too late. But what Richmond does come up with is pretty funny stuff.

    There were strippers, and pranks, and parking-lot drag races, and air-hockey tournaments with awards like Most Disgusting Player.

    And a whole lot of guns.

    When Bob Brown arrived at training camp in 1971, he showed up in a Cadillac with a driver -and a suitcase full of pistols. He walked across the field, and announced his arrival by tackling a goalpost to the ground.

    One night, Brown shot out the television in his room (it was probably a rerun). Once, while negotiating his contract with owner Al Davis, not hearing the number he wanted to hear, Brown just pulled out a gun and laid it on the desk.

    You can see why he wouldn’t want to retell those stories now. In today’s NFL, guns are no longer a laughing matter.

    The best escapades occurred during training camp in Santa Rosa, Calif., then a small town in the middle of nowhere. But the Raiders had no trouble finding trouble.

    There was a whole lot of beer and marijuana, but no steroids.

    “Hey, our steroid came in a brown bottle. It was Budweiser we loved,” Banaszak said. “Kept your weight up, too.”

    But the book talks about football, too. And that’s where it shines.

    Often in these kinds of books, there is chapter after chapter of detailed play-by-play that just drags it down. Richmond avoids that trap by interspersing game time with recollections and portraits of many of the great characters.

    There was the chain-smoking Biletnikoff, who later played one season with the Alouettes. Biletnikoff repeatedly vomited before every game even if his teammates couldn’t imagine what was coming back up. They never saw him eat.

    There was Skip Thomas, who would check himself into a hospital after home games even when he wasn’t injured, to make sure he stayed out of trouble.

    Thomas would ride his Harley right into the hospital, down the hallway and into his room, and play strip poker with the nurses -who always had a fifth of Crown Royal or tequila ready for him.

    The Super Bowl win was the beginning of the end. The sniping and infighting began, as it often will in a family that gets too close.

    Madden resigned after the 1978 season. Davis took the money and moved the Raiders down to L.A., where they remained for 12 years.

    It couldn’t have lasted, anyway. But while it did, it was epic.

    “Seven days a week, it was as much fun as a human being could have and still stay alive,” tight-end Bob Moore said.

  51. neilb Says:

    Post #40….makes total sense to me.Live by the blitz-die by the blitz.

  52. raiders22 Says:

    I’ll be there tomorrow, tailgaitng with a familyy full of niner fans. SMH.
    free tickets oh well, nothing a 4 man, 12 beer, beer bong can’t get my mind off of. here’s to a win! and here’s to hoping I’m conscious to see the win!
    JUUUUUIIIIIIIICEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD

  53. Kirk Says:

    Blitzing creates turnovers.

    Turnovers win games.

  54. raidermarty Says:

    Yeah we could stand to blitz a little bit more it just has to be used smartly and efficiently.But sure I’d like to see more pressure on the qb like everyone else.

  55. Que Says:

    Big Game Again, last week was last week. I myself hope NOT for a let down.Defense cant play like they did last week. Have to be dominate and punish guys. Run that ball and play action. Go raiders make us proud beat who your supposed to beat . San fran isnt a team to take lightly.

  56. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I hope the Raiders learned from the lesson of Wisc.-Oh St. Wisc. came out and smashed the Buckeyes physically. Watch the 9er’s try to do the same.
    31-21 Raiders.

  57. SR Raider Says:

    No idea who’s going to win today, but the Raiders will need to blitz to get it done. That, and Jason Campbell needs a good game. Go Raiders!

  58. big pep Says:

    morning nation, today we hope two have two in a row and maybe just maybe, we start looking like an organized nfl football team if not, FIRE CABLE……..

  59. raidermarty Says:

    Well this stretch of games is definitely critical to determine what direction this team is headed in. It’s been extremely frustrating to watch them take one step forward and two steps back.
    Win or lose i think they’re starting to play with a purpose and overall they are getting better so i am hopeful we are emerging from the dark ages…
    Stay positive RAIDER FANS, something good is coming!!!
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. big pep Says:

    this team needs to treat this as a, lose and your season is over type game. they need to stay motivated, and even though id prefer b.g. over j.c. he looked pretty good in the second half last week. so good luck to him and the rest of the team.

  61. Plunketthead Says:

    JFB

    I got lucky. I predicted a Wildcat win every week so far. When I was young I was a three team parley guy.
    I always figured three teams was not that hard to pick. Once in awhile I would hit one but few and far between.
    Later on I got to where I liked to parley two underdogs straight-up for the odds or an underdog and a favorite team.
    I seemed to have better luck doing that

  62. Plunketthead Says:

    Today I would take Raiders & Tunafish to win outright

  63. JLofty Says:

    Raiders 17-13

  64. Raider O Says:

    Raiders better win today. I can’t have both my teams lose this weekend.
    Damn you Pryor!!
    Damn you Mich!! We will destroy you again, so don’t start dreaming.

  65. EMRaiders Says:

    Raiders better don’t find a way to lose this one. I still say we will be 5-4 at the bye.

    my guess for this game is OAK 26 SF 24.

    halftime score OAK 13 SF 14

  66. GG Says:

    40-10 win to Raiders

  67. Plunketthead Says:

    Adam Shefler on BSPN just said the Raiders are shopping someone and you will be suprised to hear who it is.

    Then went to commercials

  68. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I want to see DHB get 3 catches. At some point this team has to get him involved in the offense….

    I want to see pressure on Alex Smith. The front 4 has to step up and do something. The leading sacker is Shaughnessy with 3 sacks. He was a backup until last week.

    I want to see Veldheer/Henderson do their freekn job

    I want to see Bush get 20+ carries

  69. r8eray Says:

    Plunk, keep us updated!! I still have not gotten my cable turned on! Just moved in..

  70. Plunketthead Says:

    According to Adam Raiders are shopping every player on the team just like “they did last year”

    Then he mentioned the name Chris Johnson but didnt give any more info

  71. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Plunketthead,

    Looks like the RAiders are shopping the entire roster again…..just a tactic.

    Although I would rather not see ANY trades go down. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the this team’s ability to get a “fair” deal.

    PLus if they do trade anyone, it will be guys like Miller, Bush, DMAC or Asomugha….we will BE RIPPED OFF BIGTIME on any trade like that.

    You don’t trade your good players because YOU WILL NOT GET GOOD PLAYERS IN RETURN

    Just roll with the roster we’ve got and let’s see what happens. The team is getting better.

    No one is going to give up a good LT, QB or NT…..and I am not a fan of draft picks.

    Roll with what we’ve got!

  72. Plunketthead Says:

    BSPN must be hard up for news

  73. Raider75 Says:

    # Plunketthead Says:
    October 17th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Adam Shefler on BSPN just said the Raiders are shopping someone and you will be suprised to hear who it is.

    Then went to commercials
    ………..

    Shopping Nnamdi. Trying to move back into 1st round next year.

    Thats just my prediction

  74. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Per ESPN’s Shefler: The Oakland Raiders called around the league this week and let it be known that any of their players are available in a trade, according to league sources.

  75. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Wow, I was late on that one. lol

  76. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider75,

    If the Raiders traded Nnamdi Asomugha, how many 1st round draft picks will Al Davis burn trying to find his replacement?

    Exactly….a lot…so just pay the guy so that we don’t neglect the O-Line and D-Line another 10 years.

  77. r8eray Says:

    The Raiders web site is saying Adam Schefter is lying…again!

  78. r8eray Says:

    lol

  79. EMRaiders Says:

    I really think that if we end up with anything less than 8-8 this season we will do some wholesaling. I think there’s a really good chance Namdi will be gone and possibly Bush as well. Chris Johnson wouldn’t get us anything more than a 4th rounder, so unless we are planning on keeping Nam and keeping Routt opp of him it wouldn’t make sense if we are trying to get some high picks for next draft.

    Unless you are a manning or brady, you are always in risk of being traded. That’s just how it goes in the league. no surprise there.

  80. EMRaiders Says:

    I think it’s just madam schefter trying to cause some distraction before a very winnable game that would put us back to .500 and kick starting our season into what would be the most memorable turn around for any NFL team and continuing the Raider legacy of making the AFC title game at the beginning of every decade, hence living up to our world famous name of “Team of the Decades”.

    AL DAVIS the world is against you!

    GO RAIDERS!

    lol…

  81. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    EMRaiders,

    The Raiders have a few players that are truly good players….Nnamdi, Bush, DMAC, Miller, Lechler and Seymour. The rest of the roster is a question mark.

    So trading the few good players makes no sense. Especially when we get draft picks back. Who is THIS team going to draft? More 4 year development players?

    Keep what you got and keep building it up. Do we have to pay Nnamdi a lot of money? Probably, but he’s worth it. Imagine HOW BAD this defense would be without him. Good Lawd.

    Having two good running backs is an absolute Godsend. Trade Bush for what…..a 3rd round pick like Johnnnie Lee?

    Forget that shhhhhhh

    Roll with what you got!

  82. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Every year it is reported that the Raiders are willing to listen for offers for any player, and every year not one player is traded.

    Yawwnnnnnnn………

  83. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JFB,

    But the concern is if someone tries to sweet talk Al Davis into trading a Michael Bush or Darren McFadden. Anything can happen I guess.

    I would rather not hear something like that. The Raiders aren’t very good with roster management…(not hating, just my opinion)….so I would prefer they just roll with what they got.

    Personally, Nnamdi, Miller, Bush are off limits.

    But we will see….

  84. EMRaiders Says:

    Hey SnB, I’m not saying I want them to get traded, I’m just saying I think they will because of money, and need issues. I hope we keep them all, I really like all our “good” players, but I think Al made all this sensible moves this off season in a last ditch attempt to turn the team around, and if it doesn’t work, he might just blow it all up. I know I’m probably wrong though…and I hope I am, but it was just a thought… and only if end up with a losing record. 8-8 or better and I think we stay the course.

  85. Plunketthead Says:

    I almost feel a little bit sorry for Colt McCoy today
    Mike Tomlin is the real deal

  86. fat kidd Says:

    Breaking news adam schefter,lane kiffin, rich gannon,randy hanson group to purchase the Oakland Raiders.

  87. Plunketthead Says:

    It will be up to Rex’s little brother and his “I will be hired tomorrow” defense to slow down the Steelterds.

    I think little Ben is gonna show off….again

  88. morilla Says:

    I don’t even know why people bring up #21. He’s not going anywhere.

  89. Plunketthead Says:

    Casserly says Alex Smith addressed the team monday and said he has been too conservative and this weekend he will let it rip.

    The Raiders will have two interceptions by halftime and David Carr will finish the game

    RAIDERS 38 Fairywhiners 13

  90. EMRaiders Says:

    And start a a reality show called “The American Rumor Mongering Show with Rich Gannon”

  91. priesttj Says:

    SnB

    Every player is develping his entire career if you’re not then you’ll be out of the league soon. Because there ae no perfect players. Usually before a player really learns hw to play his position his career is winding down. It’s hard to find a player who has it together mentally and physically in fact that player has never existed.

    That’s what you just can’t wrap your head around at this level you’re always learning because it’s the highest level.

    In other walks of life even a Rhodes Scholar PHD doesn’t know everything. Well it’s the same thing in football it’s s complex that the nuances are never completely accomplished.

    When I say a player is developing in most cases I’m saying he’s catching up to the speed of the game as he learns to refines his basic knowledge of his position. But truth be told that refinement is never pure because he’s long since retired injured or otherwise.

    Every player has to develope every single one and normally it’s a 3-4 year period. Patrick Willis is still developing most of what he’;s done is on physical talent alone he’s just starting t really understand his position. I know that sounds crazy to some of you but it is TRUE……..

  92. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    It’s going to be interesting what hatred Gannon spews today as he works the Raiders vs 9er’s game on CBS.

  93. r8eray Says:

    Should I start Malcolm Floyd or Zach Miller in FFL?

  94. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Al deserves his rippings for his drafts and FA acquisitions, but his trading hasn’t been that bad.

    Got over on the Pats for Burgess, and Wimbley I think was a deal the Raiders got the better of.

    Of course there is Moss, but the Pats didn’t get much more out of him than we did, and he is fresh off some career years, while he was hurt and unproductive here.

    CJ for a 5th would make sense, IMO, as long as Walter McFadden is healthy. I think JLH would be considered in a move, and hell maybe even Bruce Gradkowski.

    But again, I doubt anyone will be traded.

  95. mistic1 Says:

    Frisco prepare for the worst day of your miserable life as your city gets double penatrated oakland & philly! Giants ithe curse of 89 lives on!

  96. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Go Raiders Go Giants!!!

  97. SaintKaufman Says:

    Enjoy a great game today fellas.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0

    Go Raiders!!

  98. priesttj Says:

    It seems all fans want their teams to have 20/20 hindsight vision except do into the future when it comes to the draft. Most of you think scouting and drafting players is easy when you really have zero clue how it’s actually done. Perfect fan reaction to everything.

    THe draft is the ultimate crapshoot and all teams struggle with it. All teams have bust and successes, I’m not aware of any team that has that part of it mastered. EVeryone in here seems to revere Mike Mayock whom preactically put a halo on Brady Quinn. Even the great Matty Ice Ryan is struggling in his 3rd year and so is Flacco. In fact if Flacco didn’t have that defense to support him he’d be a bust right now.

    Putting together a roster is arduous and filled with pitfalls but you still have to play. KC is in 1st place but that QB might be the worst in the division and they gave him $63 million. Biulding a roster is very difficult and no one has the market cornered on it. Indy has Manning and the Pat’s have Brady and those guy’s cover up a lot of mistakes.

  99. morilla Says:

    Rams are looking decent.

  100. fat kidd Says:

    Go Raiders Go Phillies

  101. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JFB,

    Looking at this roster, Miller, Bush, DMAC, Lechler and Seymour are guys that would generate interest. I don’t think anything short of a 1st round pick for any of them (except Lechler) would be worth it. The Raiders will not find a 1st round pick that could replace those players.

    Therefore, you would be entertaining 2nd and 3rd round picks…

  102. raidermarty Says:

    C’mon RAIDERS
    Dominate right from the start!!!!!!!!!!

  103. morilla Says:

    wow, Gannon looks horrible.

  104. morilla Says:

    where is that big arm?

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