Cable Q&A
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A transcript of coach Tom Cable’s weekly press briefing with the Bay Area media following a 17-9 loss to the 49ers at Candlestick Park:
Cable: OK, injury update from the game. Samson Satele missed a series in there with some dehydration right at halftime, so just got to back up and some fluids in him. Brandon Myers suffered a concussion. He would be day-to-day and questionable this week. Jason Campbell, did an MRI on the knee, the knee’s fine, does have a little bit of a sprain there but nothing at this point that looks serious.
Q: Is it too early to tell who QB will be this week or have to wait and see how Bruce comes out of it?
Cable: We’ll need to see both come Wednesday, see where they’re both at and then we’ll make a decision and go with it.
Q: Issue with Campbell’s health or is that not an issue?
Cable: Just see where he’s at, he’s pretty sore today. So let’s just see where he’s at come Wednesday.
Q: Is there a scenario where Kyle could be the starter this weekend?
Cable: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Q: Overall assessment of the game . . .
Cable: Just what I said yesterday, we’re all very disappointed today. We have the same feeling similar to what we had after the Arizona game, where you felt like you did a lot o things to win a game and didn’t do enough to get it over the hump to do it. You can put your finger on a number of things. We didn’t throw the ball well. Weren’t very good on third down. Weren’t very good in the red zone. Gave up four big plays on defense. Kicking game, pretty solid for the most part, could have done a little better job in the vice in the punt return team, some things like that. But it wasn’t a thing of just going out and executing, making the plays that were there. There was a ton of opportunity in that football game, and we didn’t capitalize on them.
Q: Put finger on third-down problems . . .
Cable: Just decisions, making throws and getting open, and protection, really making decisions and throwing the football, things like that, very fundamental issues.
Q: Lot of things go into getting ball to wideouts, is there anything that jumps out on you more than the other? Is it QBs? Wideouts? Coverage? Hue’s playcalling?
Cable: Nah, nah. I think the first play of the game is a perfect example. We’re going to take a shot to open the game, and you just got to cut that loose, and he ran right by him like we hoped _ and we did get a big play out of it with the pass interference call _ but there’s a chance I think when, when you get a chance to get a big chunk play, you know, to make it happen, and we’re just not doing that. We threw a go-route, we were backed up near the goal line, and just overthrew that one as well. I think the plays are there. I think it shows up on film that they were there, but we’re just not executing, whether it’s a throw or whether it’s a route.
Q: How would you assess Campbell’s performance?
Cable: He struggled. It is what it is. He struggled with some things. There were times early in the game where I thought the protection around him was a little shaky but it seemed to improve as the game went. He did some nice things making plays with his feet. But at the same time you have to make some of those plays more often than what we’re doing right now.
Q: When Campbell was hobbling around with nine minutes left, no thought of taking him out?
Cable: No, it wasn’t something we had even talked about. For us, it was just a play away, a play away, a play away. And you’re trying to get to the right play, and your team in position for the right play. But that’s not good enough.
Q: Were Niners doing something special to take away Zach Miller?
Cable: No.
Q:Any explanation on that losing a 14-yard play to a challenge that isn’t allowed?
Cable: The explanation was that the flag was on the ground before the ball was snapped. That’s all I got.
Q:But don’t they have to stop the play?
Cable: Yes. By rule, that’s the way it should be done. It was not stopped. It was ran to completion before anything was ever said about it. But their explanation was that the flag was on the ground prior to the ball being snapped.
Q: How come you couldn’t get running game untracked?
Cable: I think we were playing too high on the line of scrimmage. They are a very physical front 7 but we knew that. They didn’t do anything that surprised us or tricked us. Just a lack of pad level and finishing blocks.
Q: But it seemed you did some good things early with the run thenit tailed off . . .
Cable: The thing about running the ball is consistency. If you start out decent, usually you get better and better from there. For us, it just seemed like we got higher and higher from there. And that’s really a negative. Running the ball for 2 or 3 yards in the first quarter becomes 3 or 4 yards in the second quarter and so on as the game goes. You’re just not able to maintain that.
Q: How much did it hurt not to have a change-of-pace back when things were going slow with Bush?
Cable: It would help to have the ability to do that this week with either Michael or Darren, or even both of them. So it won’t be an issue for us this week. More than anything, Michael is a proven runner and a very good one. You gotta give him enough seam to run it. He can use that big body to break tackles and get through to the secondary. I just think that the seams were there and they just shut down too quick. That’s a product of not finishing blocks.
Q: Who would third back have been?
Cable: We wouldn’t have had one. We would have put Marcel Reece back there, would have been the third.
Q: Were receivers getting open?
Cable: I thought we had some guys open. I thought there were some times where we could have run better routes and give ourselves a chance to have some better windows to throw the ball to.
Q: How was the pass rush?
Cable: Just what you thought. You had some physical rush from 90 and 94 and all the speed from the outside backers.
Q: No, the Raiders pass rush . . .
Cable: Kind of hot and cold. Production at times and there were other times when we needed more and didn’t get it. We bothered him all day and we hit him a lot and rushed him. To categorize it sack wise, not enough. But when you talk about just pure pressure and disruption it was pretty good.
Q: First play was a flea-flicker and it’s to Murphy, end around is to Murphy, deep pass out of end zone to Murphy, any reason it’s not Heyward-Bey on any of those plays?
Cable: On the go route, he’s the guy on the other side. He didn’t have a step on his guy like Louis did. I don’t know that there’s really any explanation that way. I know we’ve run the reverse with Darrius early in the year. Maybe there’s more of that to come. I don’t know that it’s worth singling anything out that way. It’s kind of what the defense is giving you and the way it’s set up.
Q: Get burned in zone so why play it?
Cable: Certainly after the play like the big post you sit there and say Mman, I wish we were playing man there.’ But that’s an easy check and it’s an easy read. You just have to get to the post as a secondary player. It’s mot a difficult thing but we didn’t do it.
Q: How was run defense?
Cable: The long run obviously we just didn’t play it right, getting over the top of the fullback. There was another counter play we could have come under it outside backer, it would have really squeezed it, made it a 2-yard play. They’re disappointing because the rest of the game you’re knocking it dead, knocking it dead, knocking it dead. But you can’t let up, not at this level. Unfortunately we did on a couple of plays.
Q: Any chance on Raiders being active before trade deadline?
Cable:I don’t at this point know that, what the plan would be in terms of that. Certainly it wouldn’t surprise me if we do something. We’ll see what the next 24 hours bring.
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October 18th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Q: Do you have a clue how to fix any of this?
A: Huh?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Cable the 5-11 machine!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
If Cable is allowed to stay…we will continue hearing about how close we are until he is gone.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I bet Seymour would like to get the hell out.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
is anyone going to ask if that’s really jamarcus russell instead of campbell actually in there, but just 50 pounds lighter?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Cable can identify the problem areas and can even articulate them but unable to fix any.
I say he’s over matched as HC.
He’s a good line coach and that’s it.
He’s a player friendly coach when this team needs a fiery (Gruden like) offensive minded, and discipline 1st kinda Xs and Os guy.
Thanks Al for wasting another 2 years with another coach you’ll fire soon.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I bet Seymour would like to get the hell out.
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Who cares, not as if Seymour has been all that anyway…
October 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Cable = no clue how to win
22-58…..how much more proof does Al need????….if Cable isn’t gone at the end of this year I may go postal.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Dakota Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
if Cable isn’t gone at the end of this year I may go postal.
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You already are…
October 18th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Al Davis 31-86
Cable 22-58
Lol. sad.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Q: Any chance on Raiders being active before trade deadline?
Cable:I don’t at this point know that, what the plan would be in terms of that.
What’s wrong Tom? Al doesn’t keep you in the loop of things?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Cable can identify the problem areas and can even articulate them but unable to fix any.
I say he’s over matched as HC.
He’s a good line coach and that’s it.
He’s a player friendly coach when this team needs a fiery (Gruden like) offensive minded, and discipline 1st kinda Xs and Os guy.
Thanks Al for wasting another 2 years with another coach you’ll fire soon.
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Do you have a three year old article link for that?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Cable:I don’t at this point know that, what the paln would be in terms of that. Certainly it wouldn’t surprise me if we do something. We’ll see what the next 24 hours bring.
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And you guys thought he had a say in player acquisitions.
lmao
October 18th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
hmmmm maybe a sign a trade is coming?cable said lets see what the next 24 hours brings
October 18th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
eazy-e r-nation Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
hmmmm maybe a sign a trade is coming?cable said lets see what the next 24 hours brings
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A new coach maybe?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
You know, Al HAS traded a coach before…… Maybe he can get a smoke and a pancake for “The Cable Guy”….
October 18th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Tom Cable’s take: we did a great job allround, except on the plays we got scored on and the plays we turned it over and on the 3rd down conversions we did not make. Other than that we are the friggin 85 bears!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Doesn’t sound like they trying to get the ball to DHB like someone was trying to make a case that Al Davis was forcing them to. He’s beeen thrown to 7 times in 2 games. So I guess Mr Davis isn’t forcing them to.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
It’s like he was blaming the football players for everything. What about you and the coaching staff cable. How did you guys prepare the past week for the 0-5 9ers. From what I saw not very well. Awfull gameplan on offense. I never here him say the coaching staff did a bad job. Witch they always do.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
DHB is the world’s greates decoy! uuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Al just got a hardon!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
You know what would make Cable look a lot smarter??
A great QB…..all of a sudden he’d look like a genius.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Countdown to the Hue Jackson era
October 18th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I’ve never once heard cable call a guy out and say HE didnt get it done. Instead it’s always a missed play here and there and it’s SOOOOOOOOOO Simple to fix.
It’s like the guy who has a car thats a lemon and it’s always a part away from being a good car!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
The Raiders are too dumb. A great QB???????? lmao.
Tom Brady couldn’t play here.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
21.priesttj Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
You know what would make Cable look a lot smarter??
A great QB…all of a sudden he’d look like a genius.
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That is until Cable’s O-line gets the Great QB killed. Then he’d become a dumb hillbilly again!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
All I can keep saying after reading this lousy Q&A.
LAME!
Same old lame azz excuses.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
this strike is going to be the best thing that ever happened for Raiders fans. RESHUFFLE!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
The coaching staff has zero confidence in Campbell and he continued to show time and again why they shouldn’t.
However, this is as much on them than any one player or players.
They need to adjust and have shown nothing to lead us to believe that half time adjustments can be made which are so crucial in the NFL. All the best coaches are able to.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Q: Get burned in zone so why play it?
Cable: …But that’s an easy check and it’s an easy read. … It’s not a difficult thing but we didn’t do it.
Our DBs don’t do that easy thing 3 or 4 times per game, every friggin game. If its o damned easy why does it always happen?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
“It’s like the guy who has a car thats a lemon and it’s always a part away from being a good car!”
LMAO, this is so true.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I hate it when this team consistently gets out coached and out played.
Then the Raiders will get lucky and win 1 out every 4 or 5 games.
Terrible.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Mikeschoice Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
this strike is going to be the best thing that ever happened for Raiders fans. RESHUFFLE!
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Could be, if Al Davis takes the time off to reflect, and decide it’s best for the Franchise for him to retire.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Getting out coached and out played by a LOUSY Niner team is freakin inexcusable and LAME!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Getting out coached and out played by a LOUSY Niner team is freakin inexcusable and LAME!
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7 pt dogs to a 0-5 team, loses by 8.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
“It’s like the guy who has a car thats a lemon and it’s always a part away from being a good car!”
LMAO, this is so true.
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EXACTLY! LMAO!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Getting out coached and out played by a LOUSY Niner team is freakin inexcusable and LAME!
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7 pt dogs to a 0-5 team, loses by 8.
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Stupid isn’t it?
October 18th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
If Cable started singling out players all of you would be on here botching that he was throwing them under the bus.You guys watch too many beer commercials.You think coaches are supposed to act like the cuts in them.What you get from Cable at his press conf. is what you get from every coach-coach talk.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Cable and his facination with this fictious hump.
It’s called playing winning football, if you keep talking about this stupid fkn hump, than people/players will actually start to think there is one, instead of realizing you are just a fat-headed buffoon.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Mike Ditka would go ballistic in press conf.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
7 pt dogs to a 0-5 team, loses by 8.
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Stupid isn’t it?
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Those guys who set line are pretty good.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
38.Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Cable and his facination with this fictious hump.
It’s called playing winning football, if you keep talking about this stupid fkn hump, than people/players will actually start to think there is one, instead of realizing you are just a fat-headed buffoon.
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LOL! nice!
October 18th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
i freakin hate fable…dumber than norv….
October 18th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Cable is just the latest in the line of unsuccessful coaches here. I can’t hate on him.
October 18th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Cable and his facination with this fictious hump.
It’s called playing winning football, if you keep talking about this stupid fkn hump, than people/players will actually start to think there is one, instead of realizing you are just a fat-headed buffoon.
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Yep….just spinning wheels and not getting anywhere fast!
If JC was hurt..why the hell didn’t they pull him and put in Boller??
JC was already playing like crap, then if he gets hurt, it’s even more reason to take him out!
LAAAAAAAME…..
October 18th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Press conferences are just propaganda pieces.
Look, if the coaches and Al Davis wanted to send a message….they would start benching these useless players with no talent.
Blah, Blah, Blah….”pad level too high…..not knowing assignments…not playing 60 minutes….starting slow…”
Whatever bro….start benching mfers and move on.
I’ll give you a list to get started!
1. Jason Campbell – actually just cut him
2. The entire starting O-Line…go with backups
3. Darius Heyward-Bey – He is flat out AWFUL!
4. Tommy Kelly – he’s awful…
5. Lamar Houston – Penalties aren’t cool anymore
6. Richard Seymour – What does he do again?
7. Michael Huff – do something please
8. Chris Johnson/Stanford Routt – they both look the same
9. Tyvon Branch – gotta be in position to make plays
Replacements should be played. And Jacoby Ford should not see the field either.
Play the backups….even if its only for a quarter….start sending the message that these summer camp mistakes are totally unacceptable.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
That’s it Dakota, word for word.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
We threw a go-route, we were backed up near the goal line, and just overthrew that one as well
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People in here were lambasting Murphy for not “diving” for the ball, instead of focusing on the fact that our cowardly lion for a QB sailed it over a wide open WR’s head by 5 yards.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
44.KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Cable is just the latest in the line of unsuccessful coaches here. I can’t hate on him.
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C´mon kell live a little! You know you want to blame Cable for something.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I wonder if no one went to a raider home game. I mean no one. Forget the billboards. Raider nation should stand and unite. Seriously don’t anyone go to a the home games anymore. It would just be old al in his box seat in the stands. And well he’s looking down at the stands and sees no one not one fan. Then would he realize what he has done. Prabably not. I’m out of ideas. Anyone else no how we as fans can fix this.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I never want to see J Campbell again in my life, period.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Cable said the very same things after every loss when he was the head coach at Idaho.
“We’re close.” “Just a couple of plays.” “We’re leaving points on the field.”
Every bit of it true. Problem is, he never fixed any of it in college. He got fired.
I’m just sayin’.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Let’s all chip in for a billboard telling Al what we think
October 18th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
What should the billboard say?
October 18th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
50.jmcclain Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I wonder if no one went to a raider home game. I mean no one. Forget the billboards. Raider nation should stand and unite. Seriously don’t anyone go to a the home games anymore. It would just be old al in his box seat in the stands. And well he’s looking down at the stands and sees no one not one fan. Then would he realize what he has done. Prabably not. I’m out of ideas. Anyone else no how we as fans can fix this.
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We can’t rid the team of the main problem, Al Davis….so just enjoy the ride…let the nuttiness entertain you while you await Al’s time to come to an end….and then let the hope back in….for the Los Angeles Raiders!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Jmclain
It’s happening already. 23,000 season tickets. Nobody, not even Al Davis, can ignore that.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Hire tbe bloggers to run the team as a committe. That’s what the billboard should say.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
something like mr davis please do the right thing and hire a GM
October 18th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
54.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
What should the billboard say?
55.Dakota Says:
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Al, should a man who averages 6 dirty diapers an hour really be running an NFL franchise?
October 18th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
i swear, id rather watch a full 30 minute episode of charlie browns teacher talking than this fucn idiot. pad level kills me, he sucs and so does his staff,players. and all this trade talk. nobody wants our sorry asss players.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
We can’t agree on anything and we would throw each other under the bus without hesitation. And still better than what we currently have.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
damn 6 dirty diapers/hr is probably more than we have yards per pass!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
54.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
What should the billboard say?
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Or how about: Al, the Commitment to Excellence can no longer tolerate you as GM. Just Step Down Baby!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I’ve touched on this topic before…
I would not draft a QB from a big name school with elite athletes. I would ONLY take QBs that learned how to play by making reads and throwing the ball….These guys that come from the SEC and other “Power Conferences” have receivers that literally beat their man by a yard or two AND have O-Lines that are beasts. Therefore, the lot of them just wait till the guy is visibly open and hit a guy WIDE OPEN IN SPACE.
In the NFL….you can’t hold the ball waiting for a guy to be visibly open…not going to happen…you have to throw to spots…timing routes… or just have the accuracy to literally thread a needle….oh and by the way…you won’t have a boss o-line, you have 3 to 4 seconds to drop back make your read and RELEASE THE BALL.
That’s why some of these guys never get it and are visibly seen holding the ball waiting and waiting.
Give me some kid from a mediocre school with average talent around him. He’s already learning how get rid of the ball because of a lesser o-line…he’s already learning how to hit receivers that may only have half a step or no step at all on the defender.
Go after the QBs from teams in the lesser conferences OR lower teams in the Power Conferences like Boston College, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Minnesota, Baylor etc….
Unfortunately, the General Manager has no clue on how to really evaluate talent. A novice like me with no pro football experience could do a better job right now off the street!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I’m all for the running the team by committee. Should be helluva entertaining meetings with Mistic1 & Aig and Bob & Kell going at it. But what the hell, it cant be worse than Al!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
I’ve touched on this topic before…
I would not draft a QB from a big name school with elite athletes. I would ONLY take QBs that learned how to play by making reads and throwing the ball….These guys that come from the SEC and other “Power Conferences” have receivers that literally beat their man by a yard or two AND have O-Lines that are beasts. Therefore, the lot of them just wait till the guy is visibly open and hit a guy WIDE OPEN IN SPACE.
In the NFL….you can’t hold the ball waiting for a guy to be visibly open…not going to happen…you have to throw to spots…timing routes… or just have the accuracy to literally thread a needle….oh and by the way…you won’t have a boss o-line, you have 3 to 4 seconds to drop back make your read and RELEASE THE BALL.
That’s why some of these guys never get it and are visibly seen holding the ball waiting and waiting.
Give me some kid from a mediocre school with average talent around him. He’s already learning how get rid of the ball because of a lesser o-line…he’s already learning how to hit receivers that may only have half a step or no step at all on the defender.
Go after the QBs from teams in the lesser conferences OR lower teams in the Power Conferences like Boston College, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Minnesota, Baylor etc….
Unfortunately, the General Manager has no clue on how to really evaluate talent. A novice like me with no pro football experience could do a better job right now off the street!
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ALEX SMITH
October 18th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Big Ben Roethlisberger is from Miami of Ohio.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
SnB
I was talking to ex-player MacArthur Lane friday, he had the Raiders. But, he likes Arena Football as a QB developer, because the small field makes things happen so fast and quick and QB’s there learn how to read real fast. Ala Kurt Warner.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Boycotts and all won’t work.
Look, Al Davis is 80 years old and has done things HIS WAY for 45 years. He’s had success in the distant past doing this.
HE also helped pioneer the NFL and he’s the doggone OWNER.
He doesn’t care about profits like other owner do. He only cares that the cash flow is enough to current operations. The TV contract guarantees this.
So, its his to own and manage. Its his passion. He isn’t giving it because he doesn’t have too.
So ya gotta roll with the circus as is and hope the Raiders either get a group of guys that give a shhhhhhhhh or Al Davis gets lucky with a coaching hire.
Or
Even Davis gets sick and tired of this madness.
Regardless, he’s going to do things his way whether you like it or not….or buy tickets or not
October 18th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Big school, little school. Gimme a coach’s son that’s tough and smart.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Has anyone ever stopped to analyze the Campbell trade from the Redskins? Shanarat can’t stand Uncle Al or plain and simply the mention of the name Raiders or the colors silver and black. Supposedly the Raiders owe via a judgement 250k or so from his 1988 dismissal as coach. He hasn’t seen a penny of it. Does anyone think that the rat would actually make a trade with the Raiders if he thought there was a chance in hell Campbell would even be mediocre “performing” for the silver and black? To him a 4th rounder was a steal. He is smart enough to know a QB that is slow and indesisive regardless of above average arm strength will never be even an average performer in the NFL. Al, please, for all we diehard Raiders fans going back to the 60’s please give it up and bring back Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen or even better Ron Wolf to run the operation. Ron had Uncle Al’s ear in the late 70’s and 80’s including draft and personnel decisions
October 18th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
No, no billboards have to hit him in his pocket book. Nobody at the games will have a bigger impact. No one at the games will get talked about. Bspn, NFL network, all the NFL shows will talk about it. Then the comish would have to step in. And tell Davis he has to go. But we have to wait till next yr. I don’t want people to lose money that they spent for season tickets. Know this won’t happen overnight. It will take a couple seasons. If were all die hard raider fans let’s make it happen.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
“cash flow is enough to cover current operations” is what I should have said.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
We threw a go-route, we were backed up near the goal line, and just overthrew that one as well
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People in here were lambasting Murphy for not “diving” for the ball, instead of focusing on the fact that our cowardly lion for a QB sailed it over a wide open WR’s head by 5 yards.
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Seriously? Was Murphy supposed to extend his gadget-arms or something? Clearly overthrown deep ball. Which was supposed to be this poser’s specialty.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
How about with two minutes left in the first half in our next home game against Seattle we all yell at the same time. Hire a GM AL..And then we all walk to the exits.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Boycotts and all won’t work.
Look, Al Davis is 80 years old and has done things HIS WAY for 45 years. He’s had success in the distant past doing this.
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This sounds like Jerry McDonald.
“Al Davis isn’t going anywhere so stfu”
Can’t do that.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Bill Parcells’ Formula to drafting a College QB
Senior with 3+ years of starting experience, 23+ wins, and a college graduate
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how bout we start by emailing al davis this formula.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
In our dreams Al should retire as GM and Hire Mike Mayock of NFL Network to run all football operations. Then Mike should hire Jim Harbaugh as head coach and the rest will be history.
But in our nightmare which is being unfolded as reality Al is the GM, Def coordinator, and of course one and only owner. Al has taken the entire Raider nation and the team hostage for the rest of his life!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
68.KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
SnB
I was talking to ex-player MacArthur Lane friday, he had the Raiders. But, he likes Arena Football as a QB developer, because the small field makes things happen so fast and quick and QB’s there learn how to read real fast. Ala Kurt Warner.
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KoolKell,
I can agree with your associates assessment. I have never played pro football…but the common theme you hear from players is the speed of the game. Everything moving fast.
If you don’t have the confidence to throw into uncertainty…you aren’t going to make it.
I don’t think the Raiders have a clue on how to evaluate a develop a QB.
So, my suggestions were a guideline for the blind. In the abscence of rigorous analysis and evaluation….just set up some simple parameters and draft that way.
Also, for the Raiders, they have to make sure the guy is 100% self motivated and smart…because he’s going to have to figure it all out himself.
Maybe just focus on IVY LEAGUE QBs and guys from Stanford, Northwestern and Vanderbuilt….LOL
October 18th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Q: Were Niners doing something special to take away Zach Miller?
Cable: No
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Except covering him underneath with a LB and over the top with aafety.
Maybe Cable doesn’t want to assist our future opponents or maybe the big lug just doesn’t know what the h*ll he’s talking about like when he said our safeties played well against SD.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Big Pep and Macho, That would be Kellen Moore. Boise St. The year after the lock out.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
76.KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Boycotts and all won’t work.
Look, Al Davis is 80 years old and has done things HIS WAY for 45 years. He’s had success in the distant past doing this.
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This sounds like Jerry McDonald.
“Al Davis isn’t going anywhere so stfu”
Can’t do that.
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Oh no. I am not saying STFU. I am just saying that Al Davis is not motivated the same way as other businessmen.
I think the empty stadium’s visual is more of an impact than the financial loss.
That is the biggest statement…the empty seats and blackouts.
However, I truly believe that until the NFL changes its revenue sharing system, that Al Davis will not change his style.
Its his biggest hobby and passion. He’s not going to give it up unless he was somehow forced.
The only way that happens is if cash flow doesn’t meet current operations and whatever debt he’s holding.
The only way that happens is if the revenue sharing formula changes.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Last week damn near everyone was ethusiastially singing Campbell’s praises as only a few kept straightheaded and told it like it was – his performance vs SD did almost nothing to validate that praise.
Now everyone is back on the Campbell sucks boat. Go figure.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Al Davis is like someone on welfare who doesn’t care if he has a job or not. The NFL’s socialist system of revenue sharing keeps the Raiders afloat. With out it, the organization would have collapsed years ago.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Boycotts,…billboards…walkouts…letters…I would suggest to all of you, that if you are unhappy with this team, and ownership,..simply stay away, dont watch it, dont read about them online,..simply walk away from the Raiders,…if you think boycotts and billboards bother Old Al,..you kidding me?…he thrives on that crap, he loves being hated,..he loves that you CANNOT ignore him,…all of you are here today, with Al Davis on the mind,..you cannot stop thinking about him,…tell you all what, I dont feel much different today following a loss then I did last monday after the Charger win,..not much…I think you all are a little too consumed with all of this,..its a football game,..if it upsets you, makes you miserable,..find another hobby,…try going to the beach and getting high, go to a concert, I will be at the Seahawk game, have a primo tailgate,…getting all upset at your sports team is for little kids,..not adults,…especially guys pushing 60, who are clearly mentally ill….good luck to you all.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
77.big pep Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Bill Parcells’ Formula to drafting a College QB
Senior with 3+ years of starting experience, 23+ wins, and a college graduate
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how bout we start by emailing al davis this formula.
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I can agree with that. The important thing about getting a college degree is it shows an willingness to study and follow-through.
IF you can’t do that…you probably can’t study the playbook either
October 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Not only did he go from praise to ridicule but now you same people want to cut him ….lol!!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Ok guys. I’m just saying. You don’t have to agree with me. Just my opinion relax.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
There were stories about him looking for more investors this past off-season, to no avail.
He throws money away on players like crazy.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Bad coaching, poor play calling and very suspect QB play. You can see why they were going Gradkow early on. If Bruce is stil hurt play Boller. See if we got something there. plus might get a stands view of Carrie.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
If its true Al insisting we only win if we do it his way is complete and utter BS.
IF thats the case he needs to be go already…
October 18th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
89. Lot of frustration in Raiderland…pretty F;in sick of it…
October 18th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
G.D. Norco, you are absolutely right. Have a great day nation. Thanks Bob..
October 18th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
The bottom line is if we had a QB worth is check on the field we would have ran away with that game by 1H. It wouldn’t have even been close.
But that’s Campbell’s game – checkdown maestro! Just like I told ya’ before. Mr. Checkdown. Absolutely refuses or shall I more correctly say reluctantly willing to throw the ball downfield.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
how does jacoby have a ball hit him square in the chest then pop UP? what a tool.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
84.TerrapinRaider Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Last week damn near everyone was ethusiastially singing Campbell’s praises as only a few kept straightheaded and told it like it was – his performance vs SD did almost nothing to validate that praise.
Now everyone is back on the Campbell sucks boat. Go figure.
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This fan base is looking for hope of something that is sustainable. Campbell represented a chance at that because he’s supposedly had the physical tools, good attitude and dedication.
So he plays well in the S.D game and people latch on to that. It clearly didn’t work out….spectacularly so.
So he should be cut. I think 95% of the fanbase agrees with that.
I think most people realize that Gradkowski is the answer for now.
Problem is you have to be durable, a problem DMAC has as well, and you have to do the things that the successfull QBs do (win games, 60%+ completion, more TDs than INTs) etc.
This team is limited. The best hope is for Gradkowski to get back and for Hue Jackson to go back to the West Coast Passing style and hope that it doesn’t take 12 and 13 throws to DHB to get 3 receptions.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
So many of the Al Davis isms, edicts, philosopies etched on Stone Tablets in the 60’s really handicap ANY Coach.
Cable is just the latest, that’s why I can’t hate on him.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Louis M. “I thought I was getting open” ..Yes you were Louis. But your QB stinks. You were not confused. You don’t need to refer to the tape. You were very much open but your QB doesn’t have the instinct or balls to throw it.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
89.TerrapinRaider Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Not only did he go from praise to ridicule but now you same people want to cut him ….lol!!
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Not that I am keeping score…but I suggested cutting him after the Titans game…….seriously.
I was shocked that a QB could look so bad.
Goes to show you that the preseason DON’T MEAN SHHHHHHHHHH
October 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Boycotts,…billboards…walkouts…letters…I would suggest to all of you, that if you are unhappy with this team, and ownership,..simply stay away, dont watch it, dont read about them online,..simply walk away from the Raiders,…if you think boycotts and billboards bother Old Al,..you kidding me?…
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This is true and I agree with this statemnet.
Just enjoy Sunday NFL football and the beer.
The losses don’t bother me nearly as much as they used too
October 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
If the team doesn’t care….why should you?
October 18th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
of course preseason doesnt mean anything. Know our preseason record in the art shell year? 4-0
October 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Boycotts,…billboards…walkouts…letters…I would suggest to all of you, that if you are unhappy with this team, and ownership,..simply stay away, dont watch it, dont read about them online,..simply walk away from the Raiders,…if you think boycotts and billboards bother Old Al,..you kidding me?…he thrives on that crap, he loves being hated,..he loves that you CANNOT ignore him,…all of you are here today, with Al Davis on the mind,..you cannot stop thinking about him,…tell you all what, I dont feel much different today following a loss then I did last monday after the Charger win,..not much…I think you all are a little too consumed with all of this,..its a football game,..if it upsets you, makes you miserable,..find another hobby,…try going to the beach and getting high, go to a concert, I will be at the Seahawk game, have a primo tailgate,…getting all upset at your sports team is for little kids,..not adults,…especially guys pushing 60, who are clearly mentally ill….good luck to you all.
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The Al Davis worshipers don’t care if the Raiders win or not. I don’t know how anyone can call themselves a fan if winning or losing doesn’t matter. But………booze & pills……….
October 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
So if Grads can’t go: K. Boller anyone?
October 18th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
THE DEFENSE? PEOPLE ARE CLUELESS.
Ysterday the Raiders Defense tied for 4th best in the NFL with 17 points allowed.
EVERY TEAM THAT HELD THEIR OPPONENT TO 17 OR LESS WON, EXCEPT THE RAIDERS.
Your “next HC” play-called an inept J Campbell to the 3rd fewest points scored yesterday and geniuses want to cut everybody and promote Hue “No Screens” Jackson.
Bad Game -
J Campbell (ran the Prevent Offense again)
Hue Jackson (no screens, misdirection, fade to Reece, 7-step drops all day)
T Branch – (Another TD catch allowed)
These were the 3 biggest problems and the folks on here are screaming about Aso and Cable and Huff. Please, watch some football.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
107.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
So if Grads can’t go: K. Boller anyone?
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Doesn’t matter. The General Manager failed to get the required talent and coaching to really win this thing in the end.
Campbell is garbage
Gradkowski is not durable for the NFL game and is inaccurate
Boller is what he is. A 1st round bust handing on for a paycheck in the NFL vs. the UFL
Plus the run defense is awful and the O-Line is incompetent (even Cable has to admit that).
No real NFL ready receivers to speak of.
Just a bunch of 10 year development guys and a few vets.
Can’t win consistently that way!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Although this season is pretty much a wrap,,atleast we can hope for something good to come out of this,,like getting a REAL HEAD COACH. ” Gruden Come Home”
October 18th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Well, there is a very bright spot to this very normal dark cloud.
As bad as things look right now…and they are bad…
The doggone team is still in the thick of the AFC West race.
If the players and coaches got some courage, pride and self-respect…and if some brittle players became strong again, they might have a shot next week.
At least it will still be worth watching
October 18th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Old Kell,..you just dont get it, and maybe you never will,…I would rather they win, but if they dont, I live with it,..easily,…if the Raiders went on a 10 game winning streak and won the superbowl this year, my life, or yours, or anyones in here, wouldnt change one bit,…as I said, if you cant enjoy the football for what it is,…give it up,..it clearly makes you miserable,…Im not Al Davis worshiper,…never have been,..Iv never met him so how could I like him or hate him?..never met him,…old Kell, youre a troubled old guy that has several issues,..you need to step away from the Raiders until they are contenders again,…you are a fair weathered fan, period,..you cant hack it during the tough times, so just go away, we wont even know youre gone.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
So many of the Al Davis isms, edicts, philosopies etched on Stone Tablets in the 60’s really handicap ANY Coach.
Cable is just the latest, that’s why I can’t hate on him.
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Right on, Kell. Too easy to be a critic in this day and age.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Pretty Rick Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Although this season is pretty much a wrap,,atleast we can hope for something good to come out of this,,like getting a REAL HEAD COACH. ” Gruden Come Home”
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We’re usually out of it by Halloween.
The blind loyalists will pine for a flashy FA signing, New Coach etc, as usual. Happy yap all off-season, them face the same ole same ole nest year. So hopeless.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
HEY JERRY MAC!!! Ask Cable at the next presser when the Raiders are actually going to turn this proverbial corner and start WINNING. The fans want to know. They printed shirts saying AFC West Champs or something like that in camp, and do a lot of talking – but not a lot of winning. It appears that the Chiefs have turned the corner as has the Rams. Some teams have been good, stunk, and been good again while we drift in this 7-year abyss called Raider Nation. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WIN AGAIN !?!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Coach on Wheels,
The defense is decent, but the big play to Gore is unexcusable! They do this cr ap ever game. We could have won 12-10 with no QB.
You’re right, though, in terms of the goats of the day: Jason Campbell and Hue Jackson.
And KoolKell,
Long time Raider fans are addicted. I can’t stay away from this train wreck.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
98.JLofty Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
how does jacoby have a ball hit him square in the chest then pop UP? what a tool.
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Let me throw out a guess….preparation!
Stuff like catching the ball, knowing zone assignements, gap discipline, pad level, passing game rhythm…
That stuff you’ve got to figure out in the preseason…not week 5 of the regular season.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Draft my personal fav Andy Dalton from TCU next year.
Give me the ugly, firery red-headed QB who probably played in front on bigger high-school crowds in Texas than our QB’s play for in Oakland.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
The Cards tried their damndest to lose to us, the 49er’s tried like Hell. Everybody in the AFC West lost yesterday…..
October 18th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
They tried to lose to “us”?..old kell?…since when did you become an oakland raider?…lol…that was funny,…all you are is a crybaby in a blog…that was funny,..thanks!
October 18th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Beach Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
And KoolKell,
Long time Raider fans are addicted. I can’t stay away from this train wreck
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If we could we’d be long gone, no?
October 18th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I liked Gruden, but he gad a buffer in Bruce Allen who Al respected because of his father, George. Rich Gaannon was the other piece of the puzzle. You won’t find a journeyman quarterback with the leadership qualities and fire that Gannon had 12 years ago. And don’t forget that Gruden was an unproven 34-year old that nobody else was hankering for at the time. Al swung for the fences and it worked that time. It was the perfect confluence of circumstances that played out well.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I should have said Norco Bob. You are a different kind of Raider fan if you feel the same after watching your team beat somebody for the first time in 14 tries and losing to a useless team, the 49ers. Sundays and Mondays are much brighter when the Raiders win.
October 18th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Beach I go to every game,..I was a great win last week,..I was there,..awesome,..lasted about an hour,..as did the anger over yesterdays loss,..keep it real dude, or you will end up like old kell.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Norco Bob Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Beach I go to every game
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Who cares, seriously?
October 18th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
You do old kell,..clearly.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Im out fellas! Gonna watch CJ2K vs Pocket Hercules!
October 18th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Well Im going to watch the Yankee game,…hoping for Yankees-Giants world series…you guys hang in there…old kell, try seeking out professional therapy,..a man your age, behaving this way,..clearly disturbed. Night all! Raider Nation!
October 18th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
The play calling was unbelievable, I agree 100%. I am glad I am not the only one that thought that. If the defense keeps a team to 17 points, they did their job. Bruce would have got it done. Campbell is too slow reading the field and or defenses.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Cable would look a lot smarter with a great QB, these guy’s wuld make Jimmy Johnson and Bill Walsh look for another profession.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
I question how many on this blog are real raider fans. Not gonna point fingers. Some of the things I read just blow my mind. If ur team loses and ur ok with it and don’t care ( ur not a true fan ). If ur team wins but can care less ( ur not a true fan ). And that’s the way it is.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The Raiders know about as much about great QB play as Colonel Sanders at KFC.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Grads is 0-2 just like Campbell, give me another QB…………period
October 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
# jmeds Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
The play calling was unbelievable, I agree 100%. I am glad I am not the only one that thought that. If the defense keeps a team to 17 points, they did their job. Bruce would have got it done. Campbell is too slow reading the field and or defenses.
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I’m inclined to agree with you. Bruce would have gotten us 1 td and 1 more field goal. We would have won 19-17, at the least.
Campbell is the worst QB I have seen since the one whose name we don’t mention.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
KK,
I’ve gotten better over the years. The pain doesn’t linger as long after a loss. I still have to work on Monday. We probably should lighten up some. It is just a game for us to watch. We have no control of the outcome.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
If Campbell starts next week it’s not worth watching it’s Jamarcus all over again. If Grads plays you’ll see how much better the rest of the team realizing they have a chance. Let’s get Vick in here and have Grads run the show until Vick get’s up to speed on the O or Bruce could even keep the job if he earns it
October 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
There is no qb help in the draft this year. This is one of the most qb poor drafts i have seen in a while.I read on this board that drafting qb’s from big schools and power confrences is the wrong thing to do. I couldnt disageree more. Qb drafting is a crap shoot, no matter where they play. The good thing about big schools and power conference is the compitition that you face.
Brady – michigan. p mannning- tenn. breeze- purdue, and if we go through history you will find a bunch of great players that went to big time schools.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Grads is too fragile to be the long term solution in my opinion though. Would love to see Mike Vick in Silver and Black.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Personnell wise were actually a very talented team, it’s sad
October 18th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Cable:
….. “I don’t know that there’s really any explanation that way. I know we’ve run the reverse with Darrius early in the year. Maybe there’s more of that to come. I don’t know that it’s worth singling anything out that way.”
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Maybe he should single everything out and fix it instead of looking at every loss in a generalized manner! In case he didn’t know, this is the NFL and every other coach out there pays attention to even the smallest details. Paying attention to those small details is what we need to get over “the hump”
October 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Beach Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
KK,
I’ve gotten better over the years. The pain doesn’t linger as long after a loss. I still have to work on Monday. We probably should lighten up some. It is just a game for us to watch. We have no control of the outcome.
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I’m getting there. When I was a kid, I used to belong to a private Horse Club in the Oakland Hills with Charlie Smith of the Raiders.
I came home from school one day and Art Shell was sitting in our living room in 68′
My mother did quit a few of their taxes.
But I’m getting over it.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
And I can not stress enough that Seymour and Kelly playing DT together, WILL NOT get the job done fellas.
Seymour had a good game yesterday, I don’t know what game some of you guys dissing him were watching. But he’s out of position without a true NT next to him.
That’s the bottom line. Kelly isn’t an NT.
We just have the wrong personnel out there and playing in the wrong positions. That’s the problem on both sides of the ball.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
We just have the wrong personnel out there and playing in the wrong positions. That’s the problem on both sides of the ball.
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Always.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Grads is too fragile to be the long term solution in my opinion though. Would love to see Mike Vick in Silver and Black.
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I would much rather have Vick behind center too but I think he’s far too mobile. Be mobile exposes him to unneccessary risk and he’s not getting any younger. Until he feels more comfortable behind the line of scrimmage, he’s not going to be a long term solution for anybody. He’s on the right path though, already we can see developments in the right direction. Personally, when you’re looking long term, I’d rather have Kolb
October 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
You know as much about the Raiders as Colonel Sanders at KFC.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
agreed armchair
lets not forget that we play a defense as complex as 2+2. jeez Campbell made us look bad last year, and we all see how terrible he is when a D rattles him.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Trade Nhamdi straight up for Mike Vick. Nhamdi is a luxury and as great as he is, he will not win games for us. A QB on the other hand is a necessity. We don’t have a full-time starting QB on this squad. Grads has great heart & leadership but he doesn’t have a body that can withstand the trauma incurred by a starting NFL QB. He’s a great #2. We need a #1 and that person is not with us at this time.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Hopefully we’ll see what Boller has to offer this week. Give Bruce another week to rest up. I’m going to be at the game so the raiders better not lay an egg. hopefully Boller can bring something to the broncos they’re not prepared for
October 18th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
# Born with a Patch Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Grads is too fragile to be the long term solution in my opinion though. Would love to see Mike Vick in Silver and Black.
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I would much rather have Vick behind center too but I think he’s far too mobile. Be mobile exposes him to unneccessary risk and he’s not getting any younger. Until he feels more comfortable behind the line of scrimmage, he’s not going to be a long term solution for anybody. He’s on the right path though, already we can see developments in the right direction. Personally, when you’re looking long term, I’d rather have Kolb
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I disagree with your M. Vick assessment. He used to be a RB pretending to be a QB. Prison must have changed him. He’s now a pass first QB with outstanding mobility – very necessary with out current O-line.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I will not blame the playcalling. If you have a QB that simply cannot complete a damn simple pass to a WR parrellel to him or simply refuses to throw to any WR what are you going to do? Keep calling pass plays so this same QB gets knocked on his arse down after down?
What are you going to do? They give Campbell opportunities and he routinely failed. What are you going to do besides keep it on the ground and try to grind it out – reduce any mistakes?
October 18th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
The playcalling was predicated on the initial game plan but more so given the piss poor performance being given at QB.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Question is, if we trade Nnamdi, who are our two cornerbacks?
So we give up one of the best shut down corners in the league and still don’t have a healthy NT to stop the run.
So instead of having teams run the ball 300yds against us one game, and then have another team throw it 400 yds against us in the next game, we can look forward to seeing teams accomplish BOTH feats against us in the SAME GAME!
Wow that’s something to look forward too.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
If Vick were to come here, he’d be placed in Al Davis antiquated systems, become frustrated and a problem in the locker room. Just like Randy Moss.
Winning players won’t tolerate the nonsense here.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
JB,
he’d definately need to stay mobile to survive a season. but look what happened two weeks ago, i’d rather see him protect himself instead of trying wedge himself in between 2 defenders… It’s not like he was sacrificing his body for a playoff spot, or in the superbowl like elway did.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Games on ESPN.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
So we give up one of the best shut down corners in the league and still don’t have a healthy NT to stop the run.
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Maan, Malcom floyed scored 2tds and caught passes for 213 yards with nnamdi on the team. Qb is more important right now. I’d trade Nnamdi for vick fast. If vick were qb he would have hit Murphy in stride, and I bet he’d hit dhb as well. Trade campbell and nnamdi for vick and a first round.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I will not blame the playcalling. If you have a QB that simply cannot complete a damn simple pass to a WR parrellel to him or simply refuses to throw to any WR what are you going to do? Keep calling pass plays so this same QB gets knocked on his arse down after down?
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Ha ha ha, maybe you’re right!!! maybe Hue wanted him to get hit. then he would be able to put in Boller. maybe Al only approved of benching Campbell in favor of bruce because of what Bruce did for us last year. Hue may have been told by Al that Kyle would only replace Jason if he were injured???
Prob not, but you never know whats going on. almost everything talked about here is speculation after all
October 18th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Q: Why do the Raiders suck?
Cable: blah, blah, blah… something stupid… blah, blah, blah
Man, I get tired of the same crap every week.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Just watch Kirk get burnt in Jags game.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
I can’t blame the play calling too much when on the first play our receiver is ten yards behind the safety, and Campbell under throws him.
Boller should start on Sunday.
October 18th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
# Tom “pimp hand” cable Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Maan, Malcom floyed scored 2tds and caught passes for 213 yards with nnamdi on the team.
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And he also completely shut down Larry Fitzgerald. So you gotta call it even across the board.
Nnamdi has rarely been burned when he is playing one on one man defense. Apart from questionable, borderline bogus PI calls against him, Nnamdi has consistently shut his man down week after week.
Again like I said…who will the corners be? We clearly can’t stop the run. Do you wanna lose games 37-31 every single week instead?
October 18th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
75, thanks but I knew how many catches he had.
lol
October 18th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
no, I was just saying I nailed it 3 days before the game.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
I knew he wouldn’t do sh!t. He never does.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
I HATE Ja Campbell so much, I hope he never plays another down in Oakland, he is such a weak suck!
October 18th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
DHB= drops Hella balls
October 18th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Grads get healthy now please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Q: First play was a flea-flicker and it’s to Murphy, end around is to Murphy, deep pass out of end zone to Murphy, any reason it’s not Heyward-Bey on any of those plays?
Man, when (if) Schilens gets back and he starts, if DHB is still the starter instead of Murphy we can start looking forward to the draft.
Q: How was run defense?
Cable: The long run obviously we just didn’t play it right, getting over the top of the fullback. There was another counter play we could have come under it outside backer, it would have really squeezed it, made it a 2-yard play. They’re disappointing because the rest of the game you’re knocking it dead, knocking it dead, knocking it dead. But you can’t let up, not at this level. Unfortunately we did on a couple of plays.
He should have just saved time and said “It is what it is.”
October 18th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Will Chaz ever get healthy? What’s the eta on him
October 18th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Jason Campbell fine, but Kyle Boller may still start
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 18, 2010 6:22 PM ET
Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell lost his starting job to Bruce Gradkowski after only a few games this season, despite the contract extension he signed over the offseason.
Now he could face another indignity: Getting benched for Kyle Boller.
Coach Tom Cable said there is “absolutely” a chance that Boller will start over Campbell on Sunday against the Broncos. This isn’t because of Campbell’s injured knee. An MRI revealed no structural damage to Campbell’s knee, but Campbell’s Jamarcus-like numbers against the 49ers appears to have spooked Cable.
Gradkowski appears to have a grip on the job when healthy, but no one is sure when that his shoulder will allow him to return.
Boller has a history with offensive coordinator Hue Jackson going back to their days together in Baltimore. Despite that, it would be a damning statement about Campbell’s future with the Raiders if Boller gets the call in a key game against Denver.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Yeah, I hope I never see Campbell on the field again for the Raiders.
He’s sooooo faint hearted.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Shanarat is lying about Haynesworth. He said “I hope he stays…but you never know.” I think something is in the works with him. Think about this, his mega deal would be a problem for any team to take him. That is unless that team had another player with another mega deal….(Namndi anyone?)
Now, I’m not saying that this would be a good trade or not or anything like that. Just pointing out an observation I made today. The article in on PFT about Shanarat and what he said…
I don’t see any QBs on the market and don’t know about any WRs. I think we are ok on RBs and the only other immediate need I would say is on the Oline, which I’m not sure if there’s any players available for that either.
Personally, I don’t think we are getting much for anyone else besides Nam, Bush, McF, or Miller. So to trade anybody else for basically nothing is not a good move. But you never know with Al. He might just trade Grad for all we know…
October 18th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Your saying C Schilens is going to dictate when we start talking draft?????
LMFAO!!!
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504 Raider Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Man, when (if) Schilens gets back and he starts, if DHB is still the starter instead of Murphy we can start looking forward to the draft.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Start Boller next week if Grads not ready,
October 18th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Faint hearted is a perfect description.
‘Ol Jackson could see Campbell wasn’t right, benching him after only 1 1/2 games. He looked like he would have rather been anywhere other than out there potentially getting hit.
Can’t say we weren’t warned by the skins fans.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
I was completely wrong about JC I thought he would be a good fit. The way he closed the game against SD I held out hope but that is out the window.
Move on..
October 18th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Unfortunately, Al Davis forced JaPuke on us this past weekend. That is why the coaching staff was too afraid to pull him. JaPuke only still got a job in the nfl because JaDumbvis gave a 4th rounder and proclaimed JaPuke the next JaPlunket.
I’m glad JaPuke got exposed and I hate to say this but the JaPuke fans deserved last weekend. I’m a Raider fan and hate to see us lose but I already scratched the game against teh Niners as a L before the game anyway. Boller has to start next week. I’m not a fan of his but I know he will not go 2 qtrs without a completion.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Former NFL Star Drives Off Cliff
Former NFL linebacker Junior Seau drove his car off a cliff—and survived—shortly after he was released from prison, where he was held for domestic abuse, on Monday morning. Seau’s girlfriend had accused him of domestic assault during a verbal argument. He was arrested at 12:20 a.m. and, shortly after posting bail, drove his white Cadillac SUV off a cliff and landed on the beach at Carlsbad. Seau was drafted by the San Diego Chargers in 1990 and played there until 2003, when he joined the Miami Dolphins. He then played with the New England Patriots, before retiring last January.
October 18th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
You know what would be funny. IF Boller plays and wins the next 3 games. Then Grad gets healthy enough to come back and when he does he plays ok and then gets hurt again and Boller comes back and takes us to the playoffs. Now that would be sweet. Dreaming, but sweet.
Hey, after all, he knows Hue’s system, right?
October 18th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I don’t think Hue Jackson want’s to work with Campbell again this week.
Boller will start if Grad’s is not ready.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Unfortunately, I don’t think Grads could holdup physically 3 games in a row.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
I don’t think they see much of Al down in SD…
October 18th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
154.ArmChair GM Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Question is, if we trade Nnamdi, who are our two cornerbacks?
So we give up one of the best shut down corners in the league and still don’t have a healthy NT to stop the run.
So instead of having teams run the ball 300yds against us one game, and then have another team throw it 400 yds against us in the next game, we can look forward to seeing teams accomplish BOTH feats against us in the SAME GAME!
Wow that’s something to look forward too.
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Maybe if we got rid of Nnamdi we would feel like our corners aren’t the best and maybe play more zone cover two and maybe even blitz more. Thinking Nnamdi got a side of field covered gives us false hope that all we gotta do is cover the other side and our front 4 can provide enough pressure.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
EM,
I agree, Boller should know Hue better than anybody but in baltimore Hue’s system wasn’t really implemented since he wasn’t the O coordinator
October 18th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Mista
All I’m saying is that if the Raiders favor DHB over Murphy when (if) Schilens is healthy then the team will pack it in.
And I will also say what most of you cats won’t say: FVKK Nnamdi! I’d trade him for a shrimp and catfish po-boy w/ hot sauce and ketchup.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
I would love to see Boller this weekend. Hell, he couldn’t do worse than Campbell…could he?
Colt McCoy was 22-33 for 281 yards 1 TD and 2 Picks in his ROOKIE DEBUT against the freakin Steelers defense!!!
We could have had him in the 3rd round this draft for Pete’s Sake!
October 18th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Look folks, when you can’t develop your own QB, chances are VERY GOOD that your team is going to be garbage.
We all in here contemplating between Kyle Freekn Boller and Bruce Gradkowski….with the worst QB in NFL history Jason Campbell.
I am just watching the games and hoping they compete.
And as bad as last week was, at least the game went into the 4th QTR. So as far as entertainment value, this season has gone well for me.
Also, the team is still in the hunt despite the nonsense….so there is still a reason to watch
October 18th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Problems never get fixed here, year after year, the same problems.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
where is colt brennan??? i wanna see him brought in asap, im freakin serious too.. like his mobilty and ability to throw on the move..any guy that holds the ncaa rec for td passes should at least be given a lil more time than just a looksie for a week in preaseason..
October 18th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
quit blaming cable. its all the qb. we would have had a chance at any game this year including the titan game with a qb. if seabass didnt miss that field goal and we had at least 100 yards and a td from our qb the 49er game we would be at 4 – 2 alone. Then would you be complaining about the coach? give me a break, this year is exciting alone because we are in games and have a chance. hell we beat the chargers finally. have some faith guys…we get boller or grads in there for the rest of the year and we will be 9-7 and possibly still win the west.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Unfortunately, Al Davis forced JaPuke on us this past weekend. That is why the coaching staff was too afraid to pull him. JaPuke only still got a job in the nfl because JaDumbvis gave a 4th rounder and proclaimed JaPuke the next JaPlunket.
I’m glad JaPuke got exposed and I hate to say this but the JaPuke fans deserved last weekend. I’m a Raider fan and hate to see us lose but I already scratched the game against teh Niners as a L before the game anyway. Boller has to start next week. I’m not a fan of his but I know he will not go 2 qtrs without a completion.
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best post of the day
October 18th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Oakglenn,
I told you already. Try to get your attention somewhere else. JaPurpledrank is still waiting for you to donate to his defense funds.
October 18th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
# Doc B Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
quit blaming cable. its all the qb. we would have had a chance at any game this year including the titan game with a qb. if seabass didnt miss that field goal and we had at least 100 yards and a td from our qb the 49er game we would be at 4 – 2 alone. Then would you be complaining about the coach? give me a break, this year is exciting alone because we are in games and have a chance. hell we beat the chargers finally. have some faith guys…we get boller or grads in there for the rest of the year and we will be 9-7 and possibly still win the west.
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im diehard bro but 9-7??? lol man i want some of that kool aid brotha???? the winner of this division could be 7-9… prob 8-8 tho…
October 18th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
will someone please tell me how cambpell threw for 3600 yds and 20 tds last yr???
October 18th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
1. GRADS WOULD HAVE WON THE GAME HANDS DOWN
2. OUR PROBLEMS CAN BE EASILY FIXED( SAID ALOT BUT COULDNT BE MORE TRUE)
3. HEALTHY GRAD, DMAC, SCHILENZ, HENDERSON AND WE ARE LEGIT.(ESPECIALLY GRAD CUZ OUR TEAM PLAYS 10X BETTER WHEN HES IN NO DOUBT)
4. OUR DIVISION SUCKS, AND YEAH THE WINNER WILL MOST LIKELY BE 7-9 TO 9-7, WE STILL HAVE A SHOT WE BEAT THE BEST TEAM(IN MY OPINION IS STILL SD)..WE LOST SUM GAMES THAT WERE HANDED TO US BUT WE STILL HAVE HOPE!!
5. WE ARE ONE PLAY AWAY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL(TRUTH)
6. STOP HATING ON TJ, I LIKED CAMPBELL AFTER THE SD GAME TOO, BUT AGAIN PROVED WRONG AFTER THIS WEEKS PERFORMANCE.
7. DONT TRADE NNAMDI PLAY OUT THIS YEAR WITH GRADS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, NO MORE DRASTIC COACHING OR PERSONAL CHANGES, WE HAVE TALENT ON THIS TEAM AND HAVE SHOWN IT…BELIEVE MY NATION, BELEIVE…
October 18th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
JUST BELIEVE BOYS….WE ALL BLEED SILVER AND BLACK AND WILL NEVER STOP, THIS IS THE BEST WE HAVE LOOKED IN YEARS(AND U KNOW ITS TRUE)..ALOT OF SEASON LEFT IN A SUSPECT DIVISION…
October 18th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
BELIEVE
October 18th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
You have to dig deep and ask yourself why JaPuke avg 16.6 points per game in 2008 and 2009.
He had a probowl TE, a probowl RB, and a probowl WR. On top of that his LT Chris Samuels was a 6 time probowler through 2008. People bought into the hype of JC except the Skins fans. People whine about surrounding him with a good team but what more do you want from the list above. You are who you are after so many starts.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Jmac,
This time last year the season was over. I am with you. This season has been exciting comparing to the last 7 years. We can actually see the possibility of competing in our own division. If Grad is back there and healthy, we got a shot. If we roll with Boller, I know he cannot do any worse than JaPuke.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
WHO ARE MY BELIEVERS BOYS!! WHO ARE MY RAIDERS!!! SAY IT SAY U BELIEVE!!
October 18th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
LOL JUST BELIEVE IN OUR BOYS GUYS, WE RIDE N DIE WITH EM, I STILL THINK WE CAN DO IT….
October 18th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Rangers are spankin that Yankee azz! I love it!
October 18th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
THERE WE GO AIG, YOUR MY BOY, I GOT ONE!! WHERE ARE MY OTHERS!!!IMA DRIVE OVER FROM PHILLY TONIGHT TO OAKLAND IF I HAVE TO BOYS ILL DO IT!!!LETS FUC*IN GO!!
October 18th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Jmackraider12 I’m with you bro…. doesn’t matter who is behind center or who the owner is, they’ll always have my support!
October 18th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
So how are the Raiders supposed to win with QBs the rest of the league have quickly discarded?
These guys are what they are.
Let me ask you this….if not the Raiders, where would these three QBs be?
October 18th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Kinda like where Josh McCown, Andrew Walter, Daunte Culpepper, Aaron Brooks and JaDavis…..are right now.
All out of the league once they left the Raiders
Says something
October 18th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
and for the record I have stated that the long-term answer is not on the roster.
Campbell is the worst QB I’ve ever seen (rather have JaDavis)
Gradkowski is too reckless, doesn’t protect himself and is not a very accurate passer. QB does us no good injured and on the bench
Boller – “Child Please”
October 18th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
GOOD NIGHT BROTHERS..SEE YALL TOMORO, THANKS TO FELLOW BELEIVERS, ALWAYS LUV, SILVER N BLACK TILL I DIE, NIGHT BOYS
October 18th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
has cable been fired yet?
October 18th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
WHO ARE MY BELIEVERS BOYS!! WHO ARE MY RAIDERS!!! SAY IT SAY U BELIEVE!!
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Sounds like a 16year old kid.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
All I ever hear in here is if Grads had started we win hands down. Then why in hell is he 0-2? First let him start a game and win it before he’s this gauranteed winner. The guy hasn;’t done a damn thing to warrant all this adulation as agreat QB. Next game he starts he better win I don’t care who the opponent is because if he doesn’t then that settles it. He is not a lock to beat anybody until he actually does it.
Grads is someones dream as a great QB I wish he were our problems would be SOLVED!!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
has campbell finished playing onthe freeway?
October 18th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
and for the record I have stated that the long-term answer is not on the roster.
Campbell is the worst QB I’ve ever seen (rather have JaDavis)
Gradkowski is too reckless, doesn’t protect himself and is not a very accurate passer. QB does us no good injured and on the bench
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SnB,
I know you are a diehard fan but I gotta call you at times on your issues.
1. Who gives a hoot about accurrate passing or comp %. The key thing is look at how the offense moves overall when the QB is in there. It’s not a coincidence that we put points on the board when Grad is back there. The haters like mistic say Cinci was one of his worst games yet he put up 20 points on a supposedly bad day (I know that Spec Team got him 3 points out of those 20). On a bad day and you still get 17 is not bad to me. JC has great comp % in his career but it doesnt translate into points on the board. The Japuke avg 17 points in 08 and 09 when he was surrounded by probowlers on offense.
2. I agree that Grad is too reckless and I think he finally learned his lesson.
3. You already stated over and over again that JaDumbvis is the worst GM and we have no talent. Then why would you expect the comp % to get any better.
4. I was dead on for my analysis of JaPUke last week. I told you all it was less than a sec decision for NFL QB’s and JC doesnt have it. You all saw that on Sunday.
You’ve been hating grad all offseason and calling for Japuke. Now that you hate Japuke at least appreciate Grad for what he has done considering what we had to put up for the past 7 seasons. Andrew Walter, Aaron Brooks, Kerry Collins, Josh McNown, Daunte Culpepper, Jawalrus, and Japuke. None of them has delivered on the field command and some consistent points like Grad has. Enough is enough already man.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
TJ,
For claiming to be a homer for the Raiders, you sure do hate on Grad quite a bit. Tell me something, who has consistently put points on the board for us in the past 7 years? Being a homer, you should know that already, wouldnt you?
October 18th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
TJ,
If Grad was black, you’d call him Black Moses III. I know that 100% and you darn know that too.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
AIG,
Call me slightly disillusioned. Gradkowski has not stayed healthy man. Last year it was his knees, this summer his pectoral, and now its his shoulder. A QB under Tom Cable is going to get hit.
Guys like Manning, Favre, Rivers…those guys don’t miss games….Brees and these guys are playing 14 and 15 games a year plus playoffs. Being healthy and taking that punishment is part of it. Especially when you are trying to prove yourself
Look, Gradkowski is the best answer on the roster. I am not ready to make the leap that he is a difference maker at QB yet. You have to play in these games man.
As far as accuracy. Over the long-haul, the better QBs are accurate. You may be able to win here and there, but if a QB is inaccruate, he’s not winning over the long-haul
October 18th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
TJ,
If Grad was black, you’d call him Black Moses III. I know that 100% and you darn know that too.
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lol… black moses
October 18th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Jhill,
JaDavis has left such a bad impression around here that a guy demonstrating passion and the will to win is going to seem like larger than life. Plus Gradkowski is a fighter and scrapper and that endears him to many people. People like underdogs.
Bottom line, this is a performance league. You have to play and win games. Thats just it.
Gradkowski has the entire season to prove he’s the long-term answer.
Either he does it or he doesn’t
October 18th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Cowboys sound a lot like the Raiders. Excuses, work harder, blah blah.
Good teams put it together and bad teams don’t
Like Parcells said, you are what your record is
October 18th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Jhill,
I have already proven that you’re a moron. BTW, Murphy was open twice yesterday for TD’s, how was our QB getting the ball to him? I noticed you ran after I posted your idiotic comments about Grad and Pitt. The question is, ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MAN UP AND ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG?
Japuke is a career 60% passer. What how much diff has that made for the Skins and the RAiders? See how your argument doesnt hold any water? effin moron!
October 18th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Wow….effective immediately on wednesday the NFL is now the wimp league. No more hard hits lol
October 18th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
SnB,
Do you think Brees, Favre or Peyton would stay healthy when the opposing DE has a free ride to the QB like Veldheer and Mario gave up? JC was brought off the field in a stretcher in the preseason. He’s supposed to be a tough and big guy. Injuries are part of the game and the QB will injured when they receive a clean hit. Kevin Kolb, Mike Vick and Aaron Rodgers all got knocked out. How is Vick right now?
October 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
They changing football before our eyes…..Goodell is similar to a certain current leader of USA
October 18th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
NFL taking physicality out of football. The shut downof society is happening people. Its bigger than sports
October 18th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Im more mad about this new rule than the loss to SF! Goodell and his nazi rules killing the league
October 18th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Strike coming up. I can feel it. Owners will at least lock the players out. I wonder if the owners will have “scab” players ready to play like they did back in the 80s? If so, I don’t think our REGULAR, OVERPAID players could beat anybody’s scabs. Sad……..
October 18th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
how is this for performance? 24 points per game, 400 yds and 20+ first down. I wonder if we could use that on yesterday.
Oh btw, do you know that the only QB since Gannon that has never failed to deliver a TD as a starter is guess Who among these names? Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks, Josh McCown, Andrew Walter, Daunte Culpepper, Jalwarus, JaPuke and yours truly Almighty. GUESS WHO??????
October 18th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
nice season biatcccccccccchhhhhhhh! now let’s get Vick and get some entertainmant value!
October 18th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
***let me add with extensive playing times as a starter in the game
October 18th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
time to watch ncaa only…
October 18th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
They changing football before our eyes…..Goodell is similar to a certain current leader of USA
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whats up BAUCE!!!!!!
there gonna be playin with flags on by 2014 i hear!!
October 18th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Aig,
If Gradkowski doesn’t play, he’s not going to get the chance to prove he’s the long-term answer.
A lot of the guys you mentioned have burnished their reputations as QB solutions.
Contrary to what many here think, Gradkowski has not done that yet.
Right now he provides emotion and energy. But you gotta win too and you gotta play.
Otherwise Al Davis will bring in another free agent
October 18th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
You never see Campbell talking to anybody on the sidelines or trying to fire up the offense or defense. He just stands there with that dumba$$ look on his face. I’m sooo sick of that. You don’t have to be fiery to be good, but if you aren’t good, than at least be a guy who contributes SOMETHING to the team.
Let’s face it. Campbell just sucks period! Shanahan knew what he was doing when he let him come to Oakland. He came into Washington and wanted to start a WINNING tradition. First order of business? Get rid of Campbell. Second order? Get a GOOD QB. Done.
Raiders pick Campbell up and “whoopee we’ve got a real NFL QB”. Not so fast. I personally cannot stand athletes who just go through the motions and act like some joyless robot. He is NOT a leader. A leader would take a hit for the team. A leader LEADS by example. The example Campbell sets is “hey it’s ok to slide so u don’t get hurt. You guys need to protect YOURSELF first man”.
So typical Oakland would pick up a guy like this and expect him to win. Al Davis is such a senile old idiot now that he likens this POS to Jim Plunkett. LMAO.
Campbell is a lifeless, emotionless, pathetic excuse for a QB. No guts, and just that stupid a$$ face of his. I hate this guy.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
what would it take to get logan mankins in here??? we need him at LT… He played that at fresno st… trade #21 and get a real good OL to help this unit out..
October 18th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
AIG,
The fight is over. Gradkowski is the only QB on the roster.
I don’t understand what you are pushing here.
He’s got to win games just like any QB in the league does.
Right now he’s 0-2.
I guess I am not ready to elevate him to the starting role until I see something that says he’s a franchise type QB.
That answer won’t come until we see a full season of football from him. Until then, its hope, dreams and cheerleading
October 18th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
JaDumbvis picked up Shavonn Walker from Shanahan and thought he got a steal…..ooops
JaDumbvis picked up Japuke for a 4th rounder and thought he got another steal…..oops
JaDumbvis should learn to stay the effin away from doing anything with Shanarat. Shanarat does know a thing or 2 about offense. He’s clueless on defense though.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Well, unlike guys like deAngelo Hall, JaDavis, Tyler Brayton….etc…etc….etc…Jason Campbell didn’t cost us much….a 4th rounder in 2012.
So he garbage. No big deal. I am more concerned about the plight of the million dollar secondary, Tommy Kelly and DHB
October 18th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
30 year……may as well watch the Lingerie Football League
October 18th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
SnB,
I know you’re a good guys so I’m not fighting. But I doubt we will ever know if we have a franchise qb without an adequate Oline and the owner forcing hands of stone DHB on the starting roster. Even if we get Tom Brady, Brees, John Elway and Manning back there, we’d put up points on teh board but I cannot guarantee we will win consistently or keep the QB healthy.
I look at our current roster and look at the winning raider roster of years past and I nearly puked at the talent level. Leave the QB aside, compare this roster with 85 Raiders, 1990 or 2002 Raiders. I dont even bother with 83 Raiders.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Boller is better than Campbell.
Campbell should be the third string quarterback.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
**a good guy. darn laptop.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Im more mad about this new rule than the loss to SF! Goodell and his nazi rules killing the league
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Like I said, Davis worshipers could care less about winning and losing. Just excuses spun for his benefit.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
man where the hell is colt brennan??
October 18th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
AIG,
Something in Gradkowski’s favor. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick who came out of nowhere.
So I think its very possible that Gradkowski could be the answer….but at 27, he’s going to have to prove it right now with this flawed football team
October 18th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
SnB,
I know you’re a good guys so I’m not fighting. But I doubt we will ever know if we have a franchise qb without an adequate Oline and the owner forcing hands of stone DHB on the starting roster. Even if we get Tom Brady, Brees, John Elway and Manning back there, we’d put up points on teh board but I cannot guarantee we will win consistently or keep the QB healthy.
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man why do you think ive been screaming for logan mankins in here?? we need some oline help up front..
October 18th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
AIG,
Something in Gradkowski’s favor. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick who came out of nowhere.
So I think its very possible that Gradkowski could be the answer….but at 27, he’s going to have to prove it right now with this flawed football team
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get real… the guy plays 3 games and gets a sep shoulder… hes not the answer either… the answer is at stanford,UDUB, or at SC!!! thats where the answer is long term!
October 18th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Kell shut the hell up…..i love what the NFL was. Sure im mad to go see SF beat us but I wanna see real football played to decide the champion. Explain how I am making excuses. Al has nada in this
October 18th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
THE ONLY WAY GRADS SURVIVES IS IF WE TRADE FOR LOGAN MANKINS AND PUT HIM AT LT…THEN MMMMMAAAAAYYYYYBBBEEEEEEE WE HAVE A LIL SHOT AT 8-8
October 18th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Maybe a big trade coming? Nah. Same ole crap. Al Davis doesn’t make any moves anymore. That’s what I used to love about him. He used to make moves to improve the team.
Anybody that thinks THIS roster as currently assembled will do ANYTHING but lose is delusional. It’s a team filled with losers and quitters. That’s all it is.
Why do we “gotta believe”? What is there to believe in? The only thing I KNOW is that they will continue to lose.
Three things to count on in life:
-Death
-Taxes
-Raiders losing
October 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
you just described GRADKOWSKI….
“I would not draft a QB from a big name school with elite athletes. I would ONLY take QBs that learned how to play by making reads and throwing the ball….These guys that come from the SEC and other “Power Conferences” have receivers that literally beat their man by a yard or two AND have O-Lines that are beasts. Therefore, the lot of them just wait till the guy is visibly open and hit a guy WIDE OPEN IN SPACE.
In the NFL….you can’t hold the ball waiting for a guy to be visibly open…not going to happen…you have to throw to spots…timing routes… or just have the accuracy to literally thread a needle….oh and by the way…you won’t have a boss o-line, you have 3 to 4 seconds to drop back make your read and RELEASE THE BALL.
That’s why some of these guys never get it and are visibly seen holding the ball waiting and waiting.
Give me some kid from a mediocre school with average talent around him. He’s already learning how get rid of the ball because of a lesser o-line…he’s already learning how to hit receivers that may only have half a step or no step at all on the defender.
Go after the QBs from teams in the lesser conferences OR lower teams in the Power Conferences like Boston College, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Minnesota, Baylor etc….
Unfortunately, the General Manager has no clue on how to really evaluate talent. A novice like me with no pro football experience could do a better job right now off the street!”
October 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
EVERYONE on the roster is avail, lets call NEW ENG and make an offer at the least…. what do we got to loose???? then lets make an offer for haynesworth… phuk it… im desperate…
October 18th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
AIG wants everybody to recognize Bruce as a great QB and if we don’t he’s just going ball up into a fetal position and whine with Grads pictie in his hand crying “they just don’t love us” over and over again.
AIG we know who the guy is and what he’s done so far which aint much. I’m sorry but everybody has their own opinion. Let it go….
October 18th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
# tuckrulefool Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
you just described GRADKOWSKI….
“I would not draft a QB from a big name school with elite athletes. I would ONLY take QBs that learned how to play by making reads and throwing the ball….These guys that come from the SEC and other “Power Conferences” have receivers that literally beat their man by a yard or two AND have O-Lines that are beasts. Therefore, the lot of them just wait till the guy is visibly open and hit a guy WIDE OPEN IN SPACE.
In the NFL….you can’t hold the ball waiting for a guy to be visibly open…not going to happen…you have to throw to spots…timing routes… or just have the accuracy to literally thread a needle….oh and by the way…you won’t have a boss o-line, you have 3 to 4 seconds to drop back make your read and RELEASE THE BALL.
That’s why some of these guys never get it and are visibly seen holding the ball waiting and waiting.
Give me some kid from a mediocre school with average talent around him. He’s already learning how get rid of the ball because of a lesser o-line…he’s already learning how to hit receivers that may only have half a step or no step at all on the defender.
Go after the QBs from teams in the lesser conferences OR lower teams in the Power Conferences like Boston College, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Minnesota, Baylor etc….
Unfortunately, the General Manager has no clue on how to really evaluate talent. A novice like me with no pro football experience could do a better job right now off the street!”
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hyymmm very good post who ever the phuk u are…
October 18th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
some of u show ignorance about trading Nnamdi, seymour ect…This is a team sport and when the others arent up to par, doesnt mean everyone sucks.
the main issue with the raiders, is they dont play to there strengths and the dont have the right personal in the key positions ( QB, LT, RT, WR)
I agree with the bashing of JC, he deserves it, but the play calling doesnt helo him either. Hue was way to conservative with a below avg secondary, and ran the ball right at Patric willis ( not too smart) His 1st int he throw was honeslty a great play by the defender, and his second was the fault of ford
…plp want to say JC didnt complete a pass in the 2nd and 3rd qrt, but how many of those plays were passes? Raiders ran the ball on every 1st down, except on a play action on there own 10 that left JC exposed and almost caused a saftey( not good play calling)
the problems some of u are talking about irrelaventm without a good off and def line a QB and an experienced play caller
October 18th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
# DaTruth91 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
some of u show ignorance about trading Nnamdi, seymour ect…This is a team sport and when the others arent up to par, doesnt mean everyone sucks.
the main issue with the raiders, is they dont play to there strengths and the dont have the right personal in the key positions ( QB, LT, RT, WR)
I agree with the bashing of JC, he deserves it, but the play calling doesnt helo him either. Hue was way to conservative with a below avg secondary, and ran the ball right at Patric willis ( not too smart) His 1st int he throw was honeslty a great play by the defender, and his second was the fault of ford
…plp want to say JC didnt complete a pass in the 2nd and 3rd qrt, but how many of those plays were passes? Raiders ran the ball on every 1st down, except on a play action on there own 10 that left JC exposed and almost caused a saftey( not good play calling)
the problems some of u are talking about irrelaventm without a good off and def line a QB and an experienced play caller
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wow 2 good post back 2 back!!! now were talkin.. i told my boy the same thing yest… play calling is rediculous… hue jax has got to do a much better job of running plays to are strenghts… what lil we have… his running mike bush up the gut on first down is so damm predictable!!! man im gonna say it.. i wanna see nick miller in the freakin offense… he has hands and is not afraid to get hit…HE also is very elusive.. get him the ball in open space… line him up in the slot and run some clear outs with him draggin over the middle behind the LB…see wha he can do
October 18th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Priest,
How did Black Moses I and II do for us? These are your boys, remember? Remember how Grad couldnt carry Jawalrus’ jock, your proclamation and edict from your know it all power?
All I know is my QB put points on the board while your QB’s Jawalrus and JaPuke give us nothing.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
im out later NATION!!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
AIG,
Do all black posters who don’t like Gardowski Camplunkett lovers?
Your dellusions of grandeur are just plain made up, lol. Your only answer for ANYTHING Gardowski related is Camplunket this and Camplunkett that.
You are the ONLY person on this blog who will EVER say I had anything positive to say about Camplunkett after the punk slide in game 1.
LOL at you ducking the straight question of did Murphy have ANYTHING to do with the Pittsburgh win.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
30,
I think Luck is going to be phenomenal. He is maxing out the talent around him. Stanford is not loaded like USC. Luck would still get killed if we allow Shaun Philips a free ride to him. Think about this, our Oline has gotten the following players injured.
Jawalrus, JaPuke, JaMighty, and JaFrye all in the last 12 months. Some of them were all in the same game.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
NO ONE likes Jason Campbell!
EVERYONE thinks Gardowski is the best option at QB!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Jhill,
Dont twist the fact mofo.
1. Only a hater like you would mock me for giving kudos to Grad’s good game against Pitt. Remember how you mocked me on Sat for that bomb from Grad to Murphy? How did we do yesterday when Murphy was WIDE OPEN twice on deep routes? Dont duck mofo. You’re an effin moron.,
2. You whine about comp %. How did Japuke do for the Raiders and Skins with a career 60% comp rate? Fact is you dont even know any shcytt about stats and how it applies. I await your answer if you dare.
3. Show me another Raider QB that has delivered points consistently on the board and I will honor that mofo too. Please show me….if you dare. He doesnt exist does he?
Keep on ducking mofo. I’m through with you.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
1. Only a hater like you would mock me for giving kudos to Grad’s good game against Pitt. Remember how you mocked me on Sat for that bomb from Grad to Murphy?
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See, there you go making sshhyytt up again. You said Gardowski “put the team on his back”, and I simply asked you if Murphy had anything to to with that.
LMFAO.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
J Hill Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
NO ONE likes Jason Campbell!
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Are you sure? Because I swore you were defending his a$$ all last week and then you disappeared after yesterday’s performance. Remember how you were defending him for not leaving poitns on the board when he took over at SD’s 46?
October 18th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
How did we do yesterday when Murphy was WIDE OPEN twice on deep routes? Dont duck mofo.
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Duck, spin, yada, yada, yada ….
Once AGAIN you bring up Campbell.
WTF does this have to do with if Murphy had anything to do with the Pitts win?
October 18th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
I await your answer if you dare.
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October 18th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Hey J Hill,
let me teach you a few things about stats ok.
1. You want to know if Murphy had anything to do with it? Hmmm..
How about this? Grad completed 20 passes for 308 yds. Murphy caught 4 for 128. You sure you want me to get teh ratios for you? You just got schooled son!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
2. You whine about comp %. How did Japuke do for the Raiders and Skins with a career 60% comp rate?
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Notice a pattern here?????
Another Campbell reference, lol.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Hey J Hill,
let me teach you a few things about stats ok.
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No!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
See how stupid you are J Hill. Murphy represented 20% of the completions. Only an idiot would hate a QB that brought you 3 come from behind TD’s. If you want to say he had 1 good game fine. But to say that he didnt have a good game in Pitt is stupid.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Please show me….if you dare
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Do you really talk like this?
Seems like there should be some type of hollywood track with all the if you dare, lol.
Too many movies!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Campbell will get a Plunkett pass and get time to learn the system. Hopefully Oakland rebuilds one of its lines (the O) and with another camp under his belt Campbell begins to play well next year.
Remember, Plunkett didn’t play his first year here.
Threw no passes and 15 the next year.
I don’t want to wait but its too early to completely write Campbell off just yet.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
See how stupid you are J Hill. Murphy represented 20% of the completions. Only an idiot would hate a QB that brought you 3 come from behind TD’s. If you want to say he had 1 good game fine. But to say that he didnt have a good game in Pitt is stupid.
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Grads is a good change of pace QB. You bring him off the bench and teams defenses struggle to keep up with his energy level and willingness to take the hit as he holds the ball that extra fraction for the wide to get open.
He’s got a gun slinger mentality but he’s not consistent or smrat enough to read it all and call the ball.
And he’s not as physical as that role demands.
He’s got heart but gets hurt…
October 18th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Well all the franchise QB’s that I know came from big name schools with great athletes that got wide open. A lot of these franchise QB’s in the NFL came from the SEC, Big10,Pac10,Big12 and on and on. Stafford, Rivers, Ryan, Bradford, Manning, Brady, Brees, McNabb, VY, Vick, Manning II, Kolb, Mark Sanchez, Henne, Rogers, Farve, Orton and Cutler and on and on.So if your looking for a frab=nchise QB maybe you should rethink that.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
But to say that he didnt have a good game in Pitt is stupid.
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See THIS is what we call a spin.
Now you should understand the term when you try and use it.
I said Murphy and his 2 TDs … Oh, is there a reason why you are leaving out TOUCHDOWNS in your Murphy didn’t have anything to do with the win argument?
Anyway, I asked you why you think Murphy didn’t have anything to do with the win and why Gardowski got all the credit, in your opinion.
How you spun that into Gardowski didn’t have a good game is HILARIOUS.
You know, I think YOU are the one starving/begging for attention. You can’t possibly be the retarded.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Grads is a good change of pace QB. You bring him off the bench and teams defenses struggle to keep up with his energy level and willingness to take the hit as he holds the ball that extra fraction for the wide to get open.
He’s got a gun slinger mentality but he’s not consistent or smrat enough to read it all and call the ball.
And he’s not as physical as that role demands.
He’s got heart but gets hurt…
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AIG,
Thoughts ????
October 18th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
J Hill,
It was nice schooling you. Next time know your schytt sherlock.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
No you weasel, I said Grad put the O on his back in Pitt and you tried to take the credit away by saying it was Murphy wide open for 15 yds. Do you want me to repost it? Do you really want me to embarrass you again?
October 18th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
I don’t want to wait but its too early to completely write Campbell off just yet.
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We’re not talking about a 3rd or 4th year guy here.
I just don’t see that “it” about him that tells me he’ll make plays when we need it.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Next time know your schytt sherlock.
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Again, do you really talk like this?
Your an asian cat. From Memphis.
Who are you trying to be?
Really??!??!!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
“he’s not smart enough to read it all and call the ball”-not sure what you are saying,but it seems he learned the Off.and learned it faster than the other QBs on the team-this year and last.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
I said Grad put the O on his back in Pitt and you tried to take the credit away by saying it was Murphy wide open for 15 yds. Do you want me to repost it?
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I’VE posted the same frickin ? to you AGAIN for about 20 minutes now, lol?
And you ask me if you want to repost it?
YES REEEETARD!!!!
You said Gardowski put the offense on his back?
I simply asked you if Murphy and his 2 TOUCHDOWNS, AND his miraculous catch of the flailing duck thrown up in the air like a punt around at least THREE defenders had anything to do with the win.
It’s a yes or no question reeeetard.
Yes or no?!?!?!?
October 18th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Or at least he reads and reacts faster.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Isn’t it like 2 in the morning in Memphis????
You’re flaming dude….
Go to bed!
October 18th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Dam, Mistic! Just when you were providing some good entertainment for us bloggers as the blog idiot, you decide to pull your head out of your azz and finally admit that JC is crap. It was a lot more fun in here when you were posting your crazy whino proclamations that JC was an the best thing since sliced bread. Campbell was well on his way to Canton in your mind. And, now, just when it was getting fun kicking you around in here, you decide to get some sense.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
How the hell are we gonna beat Denver without my main man JR? Boller is gonna have to be spot on. If he plays like he did against the Pats during their run in 2007, we’ve got a chance.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
He’s got a gun slinger mentality but he’s not consistent or smrat enough to read it all and call the ball.
And he’s not as physical as that role demands.
He’s got heart but gets hurt…
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Not smart enough? lol…is there someone smarter on this roster at QB? Not physical? LOL! Really? If anything, the guy is too physical.
And just who won’t get hurt behind this line?
Nnamdi – you trying to take Mistic’s place? lol…
October 18th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
It’s why Grads comes in and does well off the bench situations as well.. When you;re behind he is great because he has nothing to lose but go out there and wing it…
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Dude, you’re giving Grads way too much credit. I really question how tough he is. Everytime he takes a hit, he’s out of the game. I bet there are “tough” QBs in the league that would take the shot and play through his current injury. You just can’t count on the guy.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Give our receivers a chance to catch the ball by simply throwing to them, Jacampbell aka Mr check down is scared to let it,rip, Id rather loose giving a good effort taking chances with a guy like Grads than loose like we did Sunday. The secondary cannot play zone, just not discipline enough. The play calling was terrible too, hu jack must have zero confidence in ja Campbell, we cannot win just kicking field goals, sit ja Campbell then cut him.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
J Hill,
I have comprised some of your greatest posts.
1. You hate Camplunkett but you defended him vigorously against me all last week.
2. I liked Bruce because I have seen him put our O on his back before. You came back with Murphy had something to do with it. No schyttt. When a QB has a good day, you’d think that one of his receivers would have a good day too. Who do you effin think is going to catch his balls? The effin Oline? See how stupid your argument is?
3. Here are the stats for you gain. 308 passing, 20 completions, 3 tds for Grad. 128 yds, 4 catches, 2 TDs for Murphy. So WHO THE EFFIN CARRIED THE DAY THAT DAY? Who holds the record for the only QB to throw 3 come from behind TDs in the 4th QTR? If that is not a day you put the O on your back, then you’re just a hater.
4. You think Grad is RARELY the better QB but you asked JFB if Grad was going to lead a comeback and add to his legend when the game was on the line agaisnt Houston? How can a rarely good QB be adding to any legends? You’re contradicting your own posts idiot.
I think these posts below clearly show you’re a hater as well as a confused Raider fan. Would have been nice to have a QB that delivered the ball to a wide open Murphy yesterday huh?
Exhibit 1—-
J Hill Says:
October 15th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Amazing how you give Gardowski ALL the credit for the Pittsburgh game, lol!
Murphy didn’t have anything to do with that, eh?
Murphy beat his man by 15 yds (slight exag ..) on one TD play and pulled down a MIRACLE catch of a Gardowski duck pass.
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Exhibit 2
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Gardowski is better than Camplunkett, but he is RARELY the best QB on the field.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
The guy has a separated shoulder on his throwing arm and you think he should be playing?In AIG’s defense,it is statements like this that gets him going.
October 18th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Oakglen,
you wanted Mike Vick earlier. How is his toughness right now?
October 18th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
707raiders – agreed. JC can only complete passes within 10 yards. Even then, he shows flashes of JaCarcus as he did yesterday with that 3 yard laser to Bush.
Funny, Grads has completed much more mid to long range passes but the JC guys say that Grads has a noodle arm. lol…
October 18th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
TSR and Lefty12,
I’m done for the nite. You guys take over. I want to puke at the Raider fans who have zero appreciation of a QB that puts points on the board after the last 7 years. Later gents.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
J Hill Says:
October 17th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Gardowski is better than Camplunkett, but he is RARELY the best QB on the field.
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As far as I’m concerned, the jury is still out on this one. I think they both suck, so really the question isn’t who’s better, it’s who sucks more. Since JC just had a terrible game, I understand people saying it’s Campbell. But a week ago after the SD win, it was Grads hands down. Now if the little china doll could just get healthy, we could put it to a vote on a week-to-week basis.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
The guy has a separated shoulder on his throwing arm and you think he should be playing?In AIG’s defense,it is statements like this that gets him going.
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LOL! Burn…Some of these guys in here are a trip, Lefty.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Will Bolder start if Grads is still hurt???????? Hopefully
October 18th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
The jury is still out on which one is better? LMAO! Campbell was bad at record levels yesterday. Not even your boy toy JR ever posted a 10.7 QB rating. LOL! Get that punk mother outta here!! He’s garbage. Heck, I’d rather have your boy, JaSizzurp than JC.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
The guy has a separated shoulder on his throwing arm and you think he should be playing?In AIG’s defense,it is statements like this that gets him going.
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Separated shoulder??? Don’t be so dramatic. A sprained AC joint. Matthew Stafford threw the game-winning TD against Cleveland last year with a real separated shoulder. A ROOKIE! Grads is a pssi.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Boller should have been our QB 2 quarters ago. I sure hope they start him over Russell, the sequel.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
The jury is still out on which one is better? LMAO! Campbell was bad at record levels yesterday. Not even your boy toy JR ever posted a 10.7 QB rating. LOL! Get that punk mother outta here!! He’s garbage. Heck, I’d rather have your boy, JaSizzurp than JC.
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Of course you know I agree with the JR part. But it was just one game. What makes it tough is that he played 10 times better (literally) the previous Sunday and beat a team that we hadn’t beaten in 6 or 7 years. So the jury is still out as far as I’m concerned. Especially when you consider that Grads is Mr. Glass.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Separated shoulder??? Don’t be so dramatic. A sprained AC joint. Matthew Stafford threw the game-winning TD against Cleveland last year with a real separated shoulder. A ROOKIE! Grads is a pssi.
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Stafford threw a 1 yard (1 YARD!) TD pass then was done for the day. Don’t be so dramatic!!!
October 18th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
What makes it tough is that he played 10 times better (literally) the previous Sunday
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Yes, of course it was 10 times better. And that’s not saying much. Campbell was TERRIBLE yesterday.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Maybe you should read, listen,and learn before making some of your remarks.Gannon said during the game it was a separated shoulder.In one of Jerry’s write-ups he explained the sprain he has is a separation.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Raiders can’t get any worse. If they did, it would be an improvement.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
LOL @ IslandRaider. So true, bro. Then again, we all remember Art Shell Part 2. As bad as it is now, nothing compares to that garbage.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Calling Gradkowski names like glass and china doll doesn’t change the fact that when he plays he is more productive than JC.He puts up more points,more yards,more 1st downs,and the team looks more like a real NFL caliber team.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Separated shoulder??? Don’t be so dramatic. A sprained AC joint. Matthew Stafford threw the game-winning TD against Cleveland last year with a real separated shoulder. A ROOKIE! Grads is a pssi.
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Stafford threw a 1 yard (1 YARD!) TD pass then was done for the day. Don’t be so dramatic!!!
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Yeah, but he played the next game against Green Bay. Grads needs to take a page out of Stafford’s book.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Someone has probably already made this observations but our coach looks like Barney Rubble. Neither here nor there, I realize but…just sayin…
October 18th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Calling Gradkowski names like glass and china doll doesn’t change the fact that when he plays he is more productive than JC.He puts up more points,more yards,more 1st downs,and the team looks more like a real NFL caliber team.
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Blah Bla Blah. Problem is he doesn’t put up more wins. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the stat that matters most?
October 18th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Interesting that you bring up Stafford, Debo. He has only missed, what, just about the entire season this year with injury? And he dealt with shoulder and knee issues last year? LOL! Oh, the irony. Sometimes you guys make it way too easy on me.
And, yet, Grads is the china doll, right Debo. LMAO!
October 18th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
He scores points and puts the team in position to win.He doesn’t play Def. or kick(or should I say miss) field goals.In case you didn’t realize it football is a team game.It takes a team to win games,one person can’t do it alone.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
What bothers me the most, is when these high priced QB’s come to Oakland for those HUGE contracts, don’t they know what they are getting into?
Come on , really. If you pay me millions, I will bust my a$$ to prove I’m worth it. I would appreciate the confidance that was given to me in my contract. And if I was the man who paid out those millions, I would be pissed off. Al probably is pissed off, but I’m sure he’s used to it.
I just don’t get it. How can you take a mans money, excuse me, millions, and pretty much flip him off by giving a 25% effort at best, or, simply not that good? I would be inclined to give him back his money, but hey, that’s just me.
The choker is, Oakland is the highest paid team. These guys are just not hungry. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
I believe Grads, Z.Miller, maybe Boeller, are hungry, But the rest? That game was sickening.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
But it is safe to say 1 person alone can lose games.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
But it is safe to say 1 person alone can lose games.
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Oh I see. So when Grads loses, 1 person alone didn’t lose it, it was a team loss. But when JC loses to SF, it’s all his fault and he should be cut immediately. What a joke!
October 18th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
But it is safe to say 1 person alone can lose games.
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Clearly! We saw that on Sunday. JC singlehandedly lost that game. It was obvious to everyone with any common sense that the defense wasn’t going to hold up all game against Gore with as many chances as our offense was giving them by going 3 and out
And have you ever seen a QB go on hibernation like that between the 1st and 4th quarters. Not a single passing yard from JC for, what, 2 hours or so. Unbelievable!
October 18th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Interesting that you bring up Stafford, Debo. He has only missed, what, just about the entire season this year with injury? And he dealt with shoulder and knee issues last year? LOL! Oh, the irony. Sometimes you guys make it way too easy on me.
And, yet, Grads is the china doll, right Debo. LMAO!
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Dude, you’re really arguing that Grads hasn’t been a china doll since he’s been here? He didn’t last four starts last year and hurt himself in the offseason LIFTING WEIGHTS! Think about it before you answer. LOL!
October 18th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
It is beyond me how at this point in time any Raider fan could be against Grads.Is he Brady-no.But there are no Brady’s out there in the middle of the season.Are you mad because we didn’t keep or get who you wanted?Is that any reason to be against the best option we have on our roster RIGHT NOW?JC has played the equivalent of 3 games and been worse than terrible for 2 1/2 of those games.Grads has never been that bad.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Debo – yes, Grads has been injury prone. I simply got a kick out of you using Stafford to prove that he was a china doll. LMAO @ that! It was you who made the comparison, not me. Shall we play a little trivia? Who has missed more games this year from injury, Grads or Stafford? I’ll give you a little while to answer that. LOL!
Don’t try to turn this around on me.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Debo – tell us again how Grads should be more like Stafford. LOL
October 18th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Clearly! We saw that on Sunday. JC singlehandedly lost that game. It was obvious to everyone with any common sense that the defense wasn’t going to hold up all game against Gore with as many chances as our offense was giving them by going 3 and out
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Why couldn’t the defense hold up against a QB that was being booed out of his own stadium? I mean, JC was terrible, but don’t you think ONE turnover from the defense might have helped him out? How about a really long return by the ST? And the defense did have a six-point lead. It’s a little bit of a stretch, but it could be argued that giving the team a six-point lead put it in position to win.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Did I say it was JC who lost a game?Actually i was talking more about Jano missing 2 chip shot FGs.But I guess YOU are correct,JC did lose the game.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Lefty – it’s clear that some folks like to hate on Grads. Not sure what he did but all I can say is that there are a lot of Al Davis homers that buy into the deep pass, the Plunkett comparisons and all that. I’m not hating on Davis by any means. But they buy into the philosophy so much that they hate anything that doesn’t agree with the Davis blueprint. Gannon is a perfect example of this. He was only the best QB to step foot into a Raider uniform in years, decades even. Yet, even during our good years under Gannon, there were folks criticizing him. Why? Didn’t fit the Raider mold. Lots of sheep in here that believe we should live and die with the deep pass and all that. Gannon didn’t have the arm for it. Grads doesn’t necessarily have it either even though he has completed more mid to long range passes than anyone else on the roster, including Davis pet, Jason Campbell.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Debo – yes, Grads has been injury prone. I simply got a kick out of you using Stafford to prove that he was a china doll. LMAO @ that! It was you who made the comparison, not me. Shall we play a little trivia? Who has missed more games this year from injury, Grads or Stafford? I’ll give you a little while to answer that. LOL!
Don’t try to turn this around on me.
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I stand by my comparison. Grads had a sprained AC joint, Stafford had a separated shoulder. Stafford begged his way back into the game and threw a game-winning TD. then he started the next week against GB. Grads begged his way out of the SD game, missed the SF game and will miss the Denver game. See what I mean? He can’t hold Stafford’s jock where toughness is concerned.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Debo – Alex Smith is better than JC. Switch QBs for yesterday’s game and we win. And had JC been playing at home….man….I GUARANTEE you would have heard louder boos than the ones you heard for Smith.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Lefty – it’s clear that some folks like to hate on Grads. Not sure what he did but all I can say is that there are a lot of Al Davis homers that buy into the deep pass, the Plunkett comparisons and all that. I’m not hating on Davis by any means. But they buy into the philosophy so much that they hate anything that doesn’t agree with the Davis blueprint. Gannon is a perfect example of this. He was only the best QB to step foot into a Raider uniform in years, decades even. Yet, even during our good years under Gannon, there were folks criticizing him. Why? Didn’t fit the Raider mold. Lots of sheep in here that believe we should live and die with the deep pass and all that. Gannon didn’t have the arm for it. Grads doesn’t necessarily have it either even though he has completed more mid to long range passes than anyone else on the roster, including Davis pet, Jason Campbell
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If I were Rich Gannon, I’d be insulted that you even mentioned Grads name in the same sentence as mine. That’s the worst comparison I’ve ever heard.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Grads begged his way out of the SD game,
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There’s a stretch. He tried to come back in the second half but it was clear his shoulder wasn’t holding up.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
TSR,I can understand if they don’t necessarily like a player,but if he is the best option they should,as fans,at least support the guy.After all,he is the QB whether they like it or not and unless Boller does the unexpected he is the best option on the team right now.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Debo – Alex Smith is better than JC. Switch QBs for yesterday’s game and we win. And had JC been playing at home….man….I GUARANTEE you would have heard louder boos than the ones you heard for Smith.
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Again, that’s questionable. Would you have said the same thing a week earlier when JC beat SD and AS lost to Philly?
October 18th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Grads begged his way out of the SD game,
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There’s a stretch. He tried to come back in the second half but it was clear his shoulder wasn’t holding up.
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Clear how?
October 18th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Debo – again putting words in my mouth. The comparison was strictly to illustrate fans and their hatred for certain types of QBs. As of right now, Grads hasn’t done anything close to what Gannon achieved. I never said he did.
But you keep misinterpreting, misreading, and purposefully misunderstanding my posts. It’s your only chance. Or is your comprehension really that bad?
Tell us again how Grads should be more like Stafford. And why hasn’t Stafford toughed out his injury this year? I’m waiting…
October 18th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
JC didnt beat SD, and even if he did theyre 2-4, whats Philly?
October 18th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
TSR,I can understand if they don’t necessarily like a player,but if he is the best option they should,as fans,at least support the guy.After all,he is the QB whether they like it or not and unless Boller does the unexpected he is the best option on the team right now.
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Not sure if I agree that Grads is the best option. If I had to look at both of their performances to date and rank them, JC’s performance against SD would be 1st and Grads’ performance against AR would be 2nd. Agreed?
October 18th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Grads begged his way out of the SD game,
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There’s a stretch. He tried to come back in the second half but it was clear his shoulder wasn’t holding up.
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Clear how?
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He was throwing passes into the grass! You know, like your boy JR. Except Grads has the knowhow to pull himself out when things aren’t right. Your boy would have blamed the receivers routes, not making plays, the plays being called….Did I miss anything? Oh yes, the offensive line, the fans, etc, etc
October 18th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Not sure if I agree that Grads is the best option. If I had to look at both of their performances to date and rank them, JC’s performance against SD would be 1st and Grads’ performance against AR would be 2nd. Agreed?
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Wrong.
Special teams beat the Chargers.
Arizona was all Grads leadership until Jano blew it.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
No way do I agree with that.JC didn’t do anything that great in the SD game.He engineered 2 long drives by running the ball and playing dink and dunk which Grads can do just as well,if not better.If not for Huff causing the fumble and the resulting TD we would have lost the game.If that had happened would you be on here talking about how great JC was?I think not!!
October 18th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Debo – again putting words in my mouth. The comparison was strictly to illustrate fans and their hatred for certain types of QBs. As of right now, Grads hasn’t done anything close to what Gannon achieved. I never said he did.
But you keep misinterpreting, misreading, and purposefully misunderstanding my posts. It’s your only chance. Or is your comprehension really that bad?
Tell us again how Grads should be more like Stafford. And why hasn’t Stafford toughed out his injury this year? I’m waiting…
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Sounds to me like you’re assuming that the guys in here that don’t like Grads play didn’t like Gannon either because they’re the same kind of QB. I’ll just speak for myself and say nothing could be further from the truth. I loved Gannon. Best guy we’ve had in a long time. And I don’t think they were the same kinds of QBs in the least. Gannon was awesome and Grads sucks. LOL.
October 18th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
agreed^
October 18th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
JC didn’t beat SD at all. He was spotted 19 points by defense and special teams, correct? And if you watch that game closely, he did nothing that was impressive. Simply didn’t screw up. The only pass beyond 10 yards was the one to Murphy. All the other completions were short with the receivers making plays. Zach Miller comes to mind, breaking tackles and taking the football past the sticks. Folks that don’t believe me can re-watch the game.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:00 am
i agreed with MR not dumbarse debo
October 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am
Grads has the knowhow to pull himself out when things aren’t right
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Was it “knowhow” or cowardice? Phillip River played a championship game against the Pats on a blown ACL. That’s toughness. That’s leadership. Grads could stand to learn a few things about both.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:06 am
lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
No way do I agree with that.JC didn’t do anything that great in the SD game.He engineered 2 long drives by running the ball and playing dink and dunk which Grads can do just as well,if not better.If not for Huff causing the fumble and the resulting TD we would have lost the game.If that had happened would you be on here talking about how great JC was?I think not!!
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Take it easy man. I’m not saying JC is great. I’m just saying he played damn well in that game and was a big reason why we won it. I gave props to Grads for a decent game against the Cards too. But the fact that we failed in the red aone too many times and ultimately lost that game gives the edge to JC for performance of the year so far.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
raiders22 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:00 am
i agreed with MR not dumbarse debo
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Dude, you hurt my feelings. I always thought I was a pretty smart guy.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:31 am
its a conspiracy! what if Shanarat did some mind control brainwashing to Jason Campbell before shipping him off to Oakland. I can’t win consistently in Oakland is etched in his subconscious! that would be crazy
October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 am
Campbell is still using the method of throwing to his reads he learned in the al saunders system in washington, dont throw to your reciever unless he already has gotten wide open, didnt beleive in throwing to spots, which is rediculous..
October 19th, 2010 at 5:41 am
My hopes have been trampled too many times.The Raiders suck.Campbell sucks.Jackson and Cable suck.Henderson sucks.DHB sucks.Whole lotta suction, a “giant sucking sound” coming from Oakland.Football is over in October once again.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Oak, you say some dumb things, some real dumb things but this one is right up there with the best/worse of them.
I stand by my comparison. Grads had a sprained AC joint, Stafford had a separated shoulder. Stafford begged his way back into the game and threw a game-winning TD. then he started the next week against GB. Grads begged his way out of the SD game, missed the SF game and will miss the Denver game. See what I mean? He can’t hold Stafford’s jock where toughness is concerned.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:19 am
RR
Did I hear you say something about no way on earth the Titan D can get me a win over my best ever euro buddy??
October 19th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Oh well Its off to work I go.
You can still guzzle tall boys in the cooler on day shift. You just have to suck them dry in a hurry, crunch the can real small (good thing I am still strong as ten bears) so it fits in my back pocket and then throw it out in dumpster
October 19th, 2010 at 6:28 am
We get no respect. Florios latest ratings
The four above us include the discharge, cowboys, lions and fairywhiners
29. Oakland Raiders (No. 27; 2-4): Adam Schefter’s report regarding the Raiders’ willingness to trade anyone on the team technically was incorrect. He left out the fact that they’re also willing to trade their coach.
30. Cleveland Browns (No. 29; 1-5): With a trip to New Orleans next on the agenda, the Browns could crawl into their bye week at 1-6. Which could persuade Mike Holmgren to run Eric Mangini out of the building.
31. Carolina Panthers (No. 31; 0-5): The crappy quarterback carousel continues, with perhaps the best chance of avoiding 0-16 coming this weekend against the 49ers.
32. Buffalo Bills (No. 32; 0-5): With a late break or two, “bye” actually could have beaten the Bills.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Cable: “We didn’t throw the ball well. Weren’t very good on third down. Weren’t very good in the red zone. Gave up four big plays on defense.”
Yeah, but other than those things and that you couldn’t run the ball, your team was fricking stellar.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Let me just point out the insanely obvious here:
If we don’t get some tackles in here who can actually keep someone…anyone from getting their quarterback killed, we are going to be looking at starting Colt Freakin Brennan next week…cause Boller is going to suffer the same fate as Gradkowski and Campbell before him.
These freakin no talent, overrated, wouldn’t be third string on any other roster in the NFL are absolutely horrible. Why can’t they look in the mirror and see that it is THEIR fault that the Raiders are down to the Third String QB by week 7? Week 8 is going to have a guy activated off the practice squad…You don’t need to be John Madden to know that the Raiders are losing these games because this line is terrible.
What is the famous quote from Einstein? “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.
It is the epitome of the way AL, this Coaching Staff, and this Line Operates…its totally INSANE! Get a freakin clue..and oh by the way..Hue, that was the worst offensive play calling you have orchestrated this year..No wonder Singletary took a pass.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Season is still very much alive if Gradkowski comes back soon. Keep the faith guys. Remember all the positive comments after the SD win! That was just last 8 days ago. Let’s not get too negative (i know, it’s tough after 7 years of misery but still). However, if Campbell keeps playing, then yes the season is officially over.
I like Cables comments about whether niners took away Miller or not…Cable: “No” aka “campbell couldn’t read anything but a check down”
October 19th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
I come here everyday to read jerry’s updates. I must ask if there is anybody here over the age of 20? You guys are like a bunch of little school girls. With all the name calling, stupid little jokes, and complete lack of knowledge regarding the NFL and Raiders.
There are some that post here that actually have interesting points of view. But, majority of the time it sounds like a ride home on the school bus.
OK. I’am done, carry on children.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
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October 19th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Let’s be real gentlemen. We can pick apart our team for days, as well as the coaching situation. But the proof is in the pudding…without an above average quarterback, we will never see a championship. Gannon=MVP=Superbowl appearance. Gradkowski, Campbell, Russel, Collins, Brooks A.,Walter, Frye…do I really need to continue. Put Big Ben, McNabb, Rivers, Manning X2 on this team and we flourish. Until then, we won’t be competeing. Raider fan for 30yrs and its pathetic we havent landed a stud quarterback in that time. But hey, we’ll keep our fingers crossed right?