Raiders live chat here on Tuesday at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, October 18th, 2010 at 11:53 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Boller, Campbell or Gradkowski? Who will it be behind center against the Broncos on Sunday? Jerry McDonald will give his opinions on this and more during our Raiders live chat on Tuesday at noon PST.
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October 19th, 2010 at 12:01 am
# RaiderDebo Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
If I were Rich Gannon, I’d be insulted that you even mentioned Grads name in the same sentence as mine. That’s the worst comparison I’ve ever heard.
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Gannon on Gradkowski:
“I know how important it is to him,” Gannon tells Nancy Gay of FanHouse.com. “I know how hard he’s worked at it. I could just see it in his demeanor as I watched him play. You watched his facial expressions, the way he talked to the players in the sideline and the huddle — this kid just realizes that this is an opportunity of a lifetime and he’s going to make the most of it.”
And Gradkowski might be helping his teammates make the most out of their opportunities, too.
“He offers hope, particularly for a team that is starving for leadership and direction, and that’s what jumps out at me when I look at Bruce Gradkowski and what he’s done the last three or four weeks,” Gannon said.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/10/gannon-likes-gradkowski/
(This means it’s time for you to sit down and STFU,
Debo. You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re a novice who drinks the Raider kool aid, at best.)
October 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am
Jerry – what are you doing in here so late? Care to join our little chat? LOL
October 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am
1st
October 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am
You reading these posts Jerry?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am
I have no idea why i did that. But Boller here we go!
October 19th, 2010 at 12:04 am
“He offers hope, particularly for a team that is starving for leadership and direction, and that’s what jumps out at me when I look at Bruce Gradkowski and what he’s done the last three or four weeks,” Gannon said.
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Starving for leadership and direction. What key words.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Grads is like Steve Deberg he was an efficient QB who managed game well enough to tease the hell out f you. Then he would lose the game. It was frustrating watching him because you knew he culdn’t play well enugh to win.
I don’t want a QB that has enough to make me think he might do it then he doesn’t and it’s like he’s our guy. But he’s just a guy nothing special. We’ve beenthere and done that. I want to win and he will get another shot all he has to do is win. Problem solved!
October 19th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Starving for leadership and direction. What key words.
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Russell left a big void in that area and Jason’s done nothing to fill it.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Debo’s upset because the bust got cut and was a flop.He doesn’t like Grads because he outplayed him last year and made everyone realize what a terrible job the bust was doing.Don’t blame Grads for the busts downfall,blame the bust.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Usually you look to the fountainhead. But we know that direction.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Priest, should we listen to you, or Rich Gannon? Who has more expertise? You’re saying Grads is another DeBerg. Gannon says Grads is a true leader. Let’s see, who do we listen to? A former NFL MVP? Or some fan who acts like he knows everything on a blog? Somebody cue up that Jeopardy theme song and let’s contemplate it…
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
So who should be our guy, Priest? We know who it isn’t.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Debo’s still making posts in the last thread! LOL! I say leave him be.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Priest, I’d like to see you call a radio show when Gannon is on and make your case against Gradkowski, and then just listen to Gannon destroy you.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:10 am
wait so we traded for JC instead of Mcnabb?
if Campbell was a 4th rdr thrn Mcnabb is 2 1sts.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:11 am
GANNON’S SAT IN HUDDLES, PRIEST. WON LEAGUE MVP. WE’RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO YOU OVER HIM?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:12 am
lefty12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Debo’s upset because the bust got cut and was a flop.He doesn’t like Grads because he outplayed him last year and made everyone realize what a terrible job the bust was doing.Don’t blame Grads for the busts downfall,blame the bust.
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Definitely pissed that he got cut. But getting out of here is the best thing for him. Can you honestly say you’re excited about this team, this organization? JR’s release was the 1st of several changes that will take place between now and next season.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:13 am
That isn’t the point Priest.In the middle of the season there aren’t any other options.You know as well as anybody we can’t just go out and get somebody else this time of year.Up to now,he has shown he is the best we have.Boller just might change that,but as of now,our best option is Grads.Instead of talking about all his flaws,we should be backing him since he is our QB THIS year.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Try Some Reality Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:09 am
Debo’s still making posts in the last thread! LOL! I say leave him be.
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How did you know? Lol.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Debo – the level of anger you have over Russell’s release is usually the type of anger you see from a fan that’s ready to switch allegiance. If a team does pick up Russell, will you switch?
Just asking. Cause I know some Niner fans that switched to the Chiefs when Montana left and you’re sounding a lot like they did back then.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Well, Debo, I went back to the last post to see if everyone had made there way over, and wouldn’t you know, you were posting to yourself. LOL! Yes, I looked. And?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:18 am
We can argue stats and he looks good losing all we want. We’re 2-4 for a reason the foremost of which lies with that position. I got nothing against Grads he gives me all he’s got but it’s not enough. Campbell I can’t began to figure that guy out and quite frankly don’t care to. He looks the part at times plays the part but mostly looks miscast and to me one is no better than the other. For some Grads is more asthetically pleasing but to me he’s frustrating.
We need a QB who can win games when he’s on and getting it done. Who when he takes the field I feel confident that if they don’t stop him he’ll beat them. I don’t get that feeling with either one. Stats be damned stats only win games when they are overwhelming. His stats are nice but he just hasn’t put enough together to be the determining factor.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Oops! I mentioned Montana and Russell in the same post. Does that mean I’m comparing the two, Debo? LOL!
October 19th, 2010 at 12:20 am
I want to know why Campbell was not pulled if he was hurt? Cable said they were still a play away or something like that, but I don’t buy it.
Was he stuffing it to Al (which I hope he wasn’t) or was his hand forced (which I hope wasn’t). Just doesn’t make sense.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Those that don’t support Grads.point to the w/l record.Lets say Jano makes a 32 yd FG at the end of the Ariz. game and Huff doesn’t get the strip/sack/fumble at the end of the SD game and they kick the easy FG they would have had.Would the W/L record be such a big deal then?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Lefty12 I do back him alll I can he’s not playing now, I’m stating how I feel about him but during a game I’m damn near praying for the guy. But I cannot deny what my eyes tell me. I want to win NOW!!
If he can help I’ll start a charity fund in his honor I’m tired of losing. I just want him to focus when he’s playing and be efficient and make plays so far he just doesn’t do enoough of that.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:24 am
“Rich Gannon is not welcome here,” Raiders executive John Herrera told the Chronicle. “We told CBS we did not want him in our building, we did not want him to be part of our production meeting, and that’s where it sits.”
Herrera went on to argue that Gannon has repeatedly bashed the Raiders since becoming a TV analyst, quoting Gannon as saying that Oakland should just “blow up the building and start over” (ha ha ha ha!!! Here here, Rich!) — a statement that apparently sent Herrera and the rest of the Raiders franchise over the edge.
“We think in a post 9/11 world, that’s not a very proper thing to say,” Herrera told the Chronicle (lol..ok. bit of a stretch). “It’s uncalled for. He seems to be a guy who can’t get over the fact that he played the worst Super Bowl game in the history of the game and he wants to blame everybody but himself.
“I guess it’s our fault he threw five interceptions.(And I guess it’s his fault Barret Robbins went awol the eve of the game, and that their real coach is on the opposing sideline”
Yeah, I can’t imagine any reason Gannon would be jaded toward the Raiders …
When the Chronicle asked LeslieAnne Wade, CBS’ senior vice president of communications, about the situation, she backed Gannon: “”Rich Gannon is an objective and analytical broadcaster and he will be broadcasting the game as assigned by CBS. (she doesn’t sound too scared of Al and his goons. must bruise their egos…)”
NFL rules dictate that all teams must make the head coach and players available to the crew broadcasting a game for production meetings. The Raiders’ decision to lock Gannon out will almost certainly lead to a fine from the league.
Sunday’s Denver at Oakland game is blacked out in a 75-mile radius around the Oakland Coliseum because the Raiders failed to achieve a sellout.
Update, Sept. 26: Because of the NFL’s television rules, the Raiders decided to allow Gannon into the required meetings. “We have relented,” Herrera said. (ha ha ha!!! Tie that into the fact that CBS’s spokeswoman laughed at your guys so called ban, and it’s obvious nobody respects Al and his wannabe mafia image anymore!)
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/25/raiders-ban-rich-gannon-from-tv-production-meetings/
October 19th, 2010 at 12:26 am
To continue,both of those games were essentially decided by others,not the QBs,yet JC gets credit for beating SD and Grads gets the blame for losing to Ariz.Even looking at W/L records can be deceiving.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Lefty12 the reality is we’re 2-4 I HATE THAT, when I looka at those two I had high hopes I said we had 3 QB’s that can win games well I was wrong. We might have ONE!……………… MIGHT!!
I cannot say I have confidence in someone when I know I don’t.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:29 am
IN the Huston game we were down 31 to 21 and I said Grads will score 2 TDs and we’ll win 35 to 31. Well we lost 31 to 24 I saw it he doesn’t have it, he just doesn’t…………………period
October 19th, 2010 at 12:31 am
priest give up
October 19th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Try Some Reality Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Debo – the level of anger you have over Russell’s release is usually the type of anger you see from a fan that’s ready to switch allegiance. If a team does pick up Russell, will you switch?
Just asking. Cause I know some Niner fans that switched to the Chiefs when Montana left and you’re sounding a lot like they did back then.
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This is a valid point. The Russell release was pretty much the straw that broke the camel’s back. I’ve defended my team and Al Davis through everything including the free agent class of 2007, the hiring and firing of Kiffin, and even Cable’s hiring which brought ridicule from many. But the Russell debacle really pisses me off. There is no question in my mind we picked the right guy. I wouldn’t be so pissed if he hadn’t shown signs of getting it together, but that guy was looking good at the end of 2008. I would argue that that stretch is the best the Raiders have looked in the last 7 years. Then we let his OC ad QB coach leave, and decide to start Murphy and Heyward-Bey as ROOKIES and neglect the running game and OL. JR has a disastrous season and is scapegoated out of town. Now we’re left with scrubs at the QB position. Yes, I’ll be a big fan of whichever team signs JR because I think he got a raw deal here. But I’ll always be a Raider fan. Right now, it feels like a transitionary period like when Rick Mirer was the QB. Better days are surely ahead.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:35 am
The guy is avg.24 points a game this year.He isn’t Brady,but he is all we have THIS year,unless Boller proves different.I don’t think most consider him the long term answer,but when discussing our QB situation for this team,this year,he is the best option now.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:37 am
lefty12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Those that don’t support Grads.point to the w/l record.Lets say Jano makes a 32 yd FG at the end of the Ariz. game and Huff doesn’t get the strip/sack/fumble at the end of the SD game and they kick the easy FG they would have had.Would the W/L record be such a big deal then?
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Why you keeing bringing up the missed FG is beyond me. There are no “gimmes” in the NFL or why would he even have to kick it? There could have been a bad snap or it could have gotten blocked or he could have over corrected after hooking two other misses. That’s why they kick them. If Grads throws a TD pass, the game is over. If he’s better in the redzone, they’re trying to come back against us instead of the other way around. It wasn’t all his fault obviously, but he has to take a big part of the blame.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:41 am
I get it Lefty12, I know he’s all we have and that’s what sucks, why do we only have this guy? We traded for this bum Campbell and he couldn’t be further from a franchise QB so here we are with Grads which is something I dreaded all off season. Because I knew what he was, and here we are 2-4. My only hope is that either he stays healthy and gets better or someone does Boller or even Campbell. I just wnat to stop the bleeding.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:42 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/494951-jason-campbell-and-the-oakland-raiders-are-headed-into-another-black-hole
October 19th, 2010 at 12:43 am
Priest sghut yoyur mouth!
“We traded for this bum Campbell and he couldn’t be further from a franchise QB so here we are with Grads which is something I dreaded all off season. Because I knew what he was, and here we are 2-4.”
Last week you tried to humiliate me for saying Campbell sucked. idiot
October 19th, 2010 at 12:45 am
The reason I bring missing those FGs up is I’m illustrating how someone besides the QB can influence the outcome of games.You guys keep saying he is 0-2.Well if Jano does his job just avg. and makes just 1 of 3 fgs we win,and if Huff doesn’t make the play he made JC is o-fer also.You want to put all the blame on BG for not scoring that short TD.Suppose we don’t make the TD.Suppose he is stuffed at the line.Suppose we fumble.The TD wasn’t a sure thing,but a 32 yard FG by one of the best Ks in the league should be.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:51 am
lefty12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:45 am
The reason I bring missing those FGs up is I’m illustrating how someone besides the QB can influence the outcome of games.You guys keep saying he is 0-2.Well if Jano does his job just avg. and makes just 1 of 3 fgs we win,and if Huff doesn’t make the play he made JC is o-fer also.You want to put all the blame on BG for not scoring that short TD.Suppose we don’t make the TD.Suppose he is stuffed at the line.Suppose we fumble.The TD wasn’t a sure thing,but a 32 yard FG by one of the best Ks in the league should be.
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I agree. There’s a great case to be made that QBs shouldn’t even have records. But if we say that for Grads, JC deserves the same. The D, theorectically, could have made the 6-point lead hold up yesterday. That bogus challenge by Singletary cost us 1st and goal from the 5-yard line. There are a lot of ifs,ands or buts.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Lefty12 again I agre with you it’s not his fault, we’ve been over this when I say he’s 0-2 I’m saying we didn’t win not HE didn’t win. I know the kicker missed my point is he’s not good enough to overcome the mishaps in a game. Those mishaps are not his fault but he cannot overcome them.
It’s nt his fault he’s not a franchise QB it’s ours we should have one. He should be the backup. We thought we had that but the guy came up as lame as he possibly could in a big game. Now I don’t know if he was hurt or what but I do know I don’t want to see that again…..period If he can’t play better than that get rid of him.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:57 am
QBs shouldn’t have W/L records-teams should.QB W/L records are a product of the hero worshiping media.But here is something to think about-the Raiders are avg. 24 points a game when Grads is the QB.24 would have won the whiner game.JC is avg. about 10 with the same team.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Lefty12
I couldn’t care less about JC, my point is we need better than both. 24 points a game will win a lot of games but who can gaurantee that Grads would’ve scored 24 points in that game? It’s just a likely he throws 3 picks and we lose 24-10.
JC or Grads is a waste of time for me because I don’t wnat either as a starter I’ll take either as a backup but we need a bonafide starter…………..period
October 19th, 2010 at 1:04 am
Priest,I know how you feel,but when you come on here and bring up all the negative points about Grads it looks as if you want the other guys over him.Well,I’m through for the night-have a good one all.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:06 am
she said she was on the pill, now we have a baby. Girls are not to be trusted
October 19th, 2010 at 1:07 am
One last comment-There is no guarantee he would have put up 24,but history says it would have probably happened.I think we can all agree we would have had more than 9.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:07 am
No not at all, I want Mike Vick
Nite Left, Adios all
October 19th, 2010 at 1:21 am
She told me priesttj makes a lot of sense.
Girls are not to b trusted
October 19th, 2010 at 1:28 am
IslandRaider Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:20 am
I want to know why Campbell was not pulled if he was hurt? Cable said they were still a play away or something like that, but I don’t buy it.
Was he stuffing it to Al (which I hope he wasn’t) or was his hand forced (which I hope wasn’t). Just doesn’t make sense.
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You left out, “…or was it that TC NEVER GAVE IT A THOUGHT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE” !!!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 4:54 am
wait did davis really go?? lol, horrible
October 19th, 2010 at 5:39 am
BOLLER!!!! we want Boller!!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Boller? Really? We’re that desperate?
October 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
I mean anyone’s better than Can of Soup. But Boller. I think he has more career INTs than TDs.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:45 am
And I just want to go on record to say I said Campbell was would never work back in Week 1. He has no style. If the offense is working, he’s OK. If it’s struggling, he tanks. I wonder what it feels like to play half as good as Alex Smith? If it happened to me, I’d stab a dull object into my retina.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:49 am
But did you see Campbell in the TV interview after that pathetic performance. He kept saying, we screwed up, we had no rhythm, we failed to convert in the red zone. He never once took the onus for sucking. I mean, jeez — a 10.7 QB rating makes you long for JaFatAss and his 14.6 rating.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:50 am
FUNNY!
“Injured wide receiver Chaz Schilens appears to be getting back some of his burst, as well. He appeared in the locker room during media access for the first time since the regular season started Sept. 12, then darted off before anyone had a chance to ask him about his left knee. Schilens had knee surgery Aug. 24 and was expected to miss three to six weeks, according to Cable. The two-month mark arrives Sunday, and there still is no definitive timetable for his return”
October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 am
The Raiders are so friggin average on both sides of the ball. For the Raiders to even remotely resemble a decent team is nothing more than a wish. And you know what my Granny says about wishes: Wish in one hand, take a crap in the other and see which one fills up first.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:53 am
Ok somepositive spin on our QB nightmare…
Personally I think a third string QB should be a project. Someone with big potential/upside.
With grads and campbell down if not out, I say re-sign Colt Brennan.
Say waht you want but the Kid completed passes, had a lot of wins and looked good in Camp this summer. Put Campbell out of his misery (IR or cut)…
Sign Colt.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:55 am
Not a bad idea, Tuck. I agree — what’s the point recycling Boller. He’s already proven that he’s not very good. Campbell is a lifetime loser. So, why not. Sign Colt. At least it’s a fresh face with some upside until he proves otherwise.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Was it just me, or did it feel like the Raiders were trying to protect that 6-3 lead. I mean, did Hue turn the play calling over to The Cable Guy or what? I can’t remember such gawdawful play calling since Art Shell was here.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:03 am
I can’t get past the fact that someone is actually wasting time out of their day to defend JaDrank.
I don’t know if the stories about him falling asleep in meetings or the one about Cable giving him a blank DVD of gamefilm to see if he was really watching are true or not. I can believe them, though.
Why? Because the guy was the single most unprepared quarterback I’ve ever seen. He looked completely lost out there. Bad mechanics, bad footworks, accuracy so bad that I think somewhere Billy Joe Hobert was laughing at him.
And, oh yeah, HE WAS ADDICTED TO CODEINE.
Whether or not the organization could’ve done more for him is moot. Ultimately it’s a matter of personal responsibility to do things like prepare and, you know…not get addicted to drugs. When you’re the face of a billion dollar franchise, you shouldn’t need a babysitter.
Which, I should point out, is exactly what the Raiders gave him as a last ditch attempt to salvage him as a player. Paid over 30 million dollars to the guy and he needed a handler. Amazing.
JaMarcus Russell is indefensible. Period.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:03 am
ghosttothepost Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:00 am
Was it just me, or did it feel like the Raiders were trying to protect that 6-3 lead.
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My guess is they looked at how Campbell was playing and realized that 6 points was all they were likely to get.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Can of Soup was atrocious, wasn’t he? The next Plunkett? Bahhahahahahahahahahha.
Oakland — where QBs go to die.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Oakland is like an elephant graveyard for QBs.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:09 am
I don’t think it’s any secret at this point that Al keeps Cable out of the loop on personnel decisions. I have to wonder, though, if Cable hasn’t gotten wind of some kind of trade in the works. Uually coaches say something like “Well anything’s possible, but we’re very happy with the guys we have here and blah blah blah.”
When you look at his comemnts at the Q&A yesterday, he said “Certainly it wouldn’t surprise me if we do something.”
Whether or not the trade pans out is one thing. Trades are discussed all the time in all sports and the vast majority never come to fruition. But it seems to me that something’s up.
Wonder who Al is after this time. Much as we might pine for a QB, I think he’s after either WR or O-line help. Could be an interesting day….
October 19th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Yep, I had the same feeling something was up when I heard Cable answer the question on a live TV interview here. I don’t know what Al’s got up his sleeve, but whatever it is, it’s almost always a trick that doesn’t work where Al’s concerned.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:13 am
The Raiders desperately need a veteran presence at WR. Somebody who can go over the middle (besides Zach) and make some possession catches. Any ideas who it might be if indeed they are looking that way.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:15 am
Although, really, just about any trade won’t matter unless Al has invented a time machine and is trading this squad for the 1976 Raiders.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:17 am
hi kiddos
October 19th, 2010 at 6:19 am
corn brenan is not a nfl qb. kyle boller is. start him!
October 19th, 2010 at 6:24 am
i want michelle vick to qb my raiders. trade away mcfadden and murphy
October 19th, 2010 at 6:25 am
# ghosttothepost Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Boller? Really? We’re that desperate?
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please remind me how many TD we got against a bad SF team?? yeah I want Boller, we clearly cant win with JC as a starter..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:26 am
we can win with cambell. win the num 1 pick in round 2
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 am
ghosttothepost Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:13 am
The Raiders desperately need a veteran presence at WR. Somebody who can go over the middle (besides Zach) and make some possession catches. Any ideas who it might be if indeed they are looking that way.
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Chaz Schilens.
I know. I know, cue up the Chaz bashers. But the reality is the guy is not soft, his body has broken down on him several times. He’s not sitting out with a hang nail, he’s sitting out with injuries that have required surgery.
The other reality is: great hands, big target, very athletic, not afraid to go across the middle. If he could stay healthy he’d be an awesome addition to this offense, particularly with Grads in there.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:33 am
he could stay healthy he’d be an awesome addition to this offense
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What’s the old saying? “And If my aunt had nuts, she’d be be my uncle.”
The fact of the matter is Chaz can’t stay healthy. It sucks, but it’s the case. If I’m recalling correctly, that’s why he fell to round 7.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a hater. In fact, I’m a huge Schilens fan. I don’t think he’s soft…his body is just brittle.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:33 am
if tom cable says over the hump one more time im going to punch my own jewels
October 19th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Kareem..
what would do with vick? if both McFadden AND Murphy gone, they are the only half decent players we got…
no targets for Vick would mean 9 players in the box, and Vick would be tackled behind the lin on every play…
no we need veteran WR’s and Linemen on O, and on D we need AL to let go or die… thats the only way we will ever win the divison…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:36 am
Kareem — LOL
October 19th, 2010 at 6:37 am
You know, I’m honestly startled that the Raiders don’t use a 3-4 alignment. With Al’s obsession with the past, you’d think he’d insist on a 3-4 since the Raiders won Super Bowls XI and XV using it.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
81. vick bush zack mills and dhb means points la mili
October 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Hey La Milicia — Wanting Boller is a knee-jerk reaction. Trust me, he’s not very good either. Although, like I said in a previous post, Can of Soup’s outing was about as bad as it gets in the NFL.
I say, trade the franchise for Peyton.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Think about it: If Grads, Schilens, McFadden and Bush can all get and stay healthy for the rest of the season we could make some noise yet. Think about Schilens and Murphy at WR with a sprinkling of DHB. Miller at TE. McFadden and Bush running and catching out of the backfield. And Grads making good, quick decisions, getting the ball downfield and keeping plays alive when things break down.
Even with a sub-par o-line, that’s an offense that could go from 24 ppg with Grads to 30 ppg.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:41 am
ghosttothepost Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Hey La Milicia — Wanting Boller is a knee-jerk reaction. Trust me, he’s not very good either. Although, like I said in a previous post, Can of Soup’s outing was about as bad as it gets in the NFL.
I say, trade the franchise for Peyton.
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I’ve often wondered what the Colts would do if a team offered, say its next 10 first-round picks for Manning. Think they’d have any interest? Probably not.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Chris, but the fourth word “if” is the key. “If” is the biggest word in the English language. “If” the Raiders had a clue they’d be competitive in a weak ass AFC West.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:42 am
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# ghosttothepost Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Hey La Milicia — Wanting Boller is a knee-jerk reaction. Trust me, he’s not very good either. Although, like I said in a previous post, Can of Soup’s outing was about as bad as it gets in the NFL.
I say, trade the franchise for Peyton.
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Boller was better than JC in Pre-season, and Boller was better as a start in Baltimore…
So No, its not a knee-jerk reaction.. JC might be a great backup, but as a starter he truly sux
October 19th, 2010 at 6:43 am
bruce g and darren m will play against denver and we will beat them by 21 points. statement game 2-0 division
October 19th, 2010 at 6:44 am
# kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:38 am
81. vick bush zack mills and dhb means points la mili
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DHB isnt a target, Murphy is our best WR, and Schilens wont be healthy for more than2 game a year…
Zack and Bush arent targets enough.. thats our sole problem, we havnt got any targets for our mediocre QB’s
/LMN
October 19th, 2010 at 6:45 am
But the Raiders have become this culture of losing — once it’s in your blood it’s hard to shake. Look at the NFL — so-called parity, my ass. Oh, occasionally a lower tier team jumps up and has a big season. But year after year it’s the same teams competing for the top spot. In the NFL, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Look how fast the NY Giants retooled after last year’s debacle. The Pats are always good, despite few household names in the lineup. The list goes on and on. NFL=Haves & Have nots
October 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
I’ve said this a hundred times before, but I have to repeat: Man, this team is so primed to play a 3-4, it’s crazy.
Seymour was an all-world 3-4 DE. Houston and Kelly are tailor made in size and skill set to play the same position. Trevor Scott could be an unholy terror as a 3-4 rush linebacker. Wimbley played most of his career in the 3-4 in the same position. RoMac was a 3-4 ILB in college. I always thought Thomas Howard could flourish on the inside in a 3-4.
All we’re missing is a fat azz run plugger in the middle.
If if if if. Ghosttothepost is right. Biggest word in the English language
IF we’d play a 3-4…
IF we’d drafted Calvin Johnson…
IF Al would pay attention to beefing up the trenches…
IF Al would step down and hire a GM…
Frustrating, man.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Unfortunately, the Raiders are mired in the have nots. And it’s all because they have no direction at the top. Somebody prove me wrong, please.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:51 am
How can a team possibly look as bad as the Raiders did last week?
I mean really. If they just played 50 percent instead of 10 percent, they would have won by 2 TDs.
There is something intrinsically wrong with this team, this coaching staff … whatever.
For eight consecutive seasons it’s one step forward, three steps back.
It’s harder and harder to watch.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:53 am
91. i like the raiders roster. we have young fast wrs that just need some coaching up and a accurate qb that can run or pass threat any given play. get vick. he had a zbs in atlanta with no wrs. just a good rb and te and they went far la mili
October 19th, 2010 at 6:56 am
93. i like 3-4 blitz schemes too like pitts has with dick labo. mclain is a pro bowl but who is next to him inside backer? wimbley or r brown i guess silver
October 19th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Man this team is such a diappointment I am siting here crying in my coffee. I was trying to figure out what they have going for them and I just broke down man.
This team sucks so bad. The Lions, Bills and Browns are better to watch then the Raiders games and that is not saying much.
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October 19th, 2010 at 6:58 am
So, who should the Raiders trade for today before the deadline?
Let’s hear your thoughts, Nation.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Kareem, stop it. McClain is Pro Bowl? Please! The guy makes more mistakes than a one-armed stenographer.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Our defense has to many injuries to be effective. John Henderson is a real loss. We have no beef to clog up the middle and we have talented guys playing out of position each game.
Now screw our DBs outside of Nnamdi they suck! Also if Nnamdi once to be remembered as the best DB to play the game he better start hiting someone out there.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:00 am
raider fans seem so upset this week. the sf 49s are a good football team. i didnt think we would win. we will beat denver. no no we whip they azz this sunday. orton stinks and mcdonalds is a headcase weaselcoach like kiffen. russ beat them last year. i think bruce g can do it too
October 19th, 2010 at 7:01 am
I think McClain is going to be good with a few years under his belt. But he’s a long way from Pro Bowl at this point. He’s sold, but he’s not what I call an impact linebacker. He’s no Singletary, he’s no LT, he’s no Butkus, he’s no Nitchske, he’s no Handricks.
He’s OK so far. That’s it.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:03 am
# ghosttothepost Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:45 am
But the Raiders have become this culture of losing — once it’s in your blood it’s hard to shake. Look at the NFL — so-called parity, my ass. Oh, occasionally a lower tier team jumps up and has a big season. But year after year it’s the same teams competing for the top spot. In the NFL, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Look how fast the NY Giants retooled after last year’s debacle. The Pats are always good, despite few household names in the lineup. The list goes on and on. NFL=Haves & Have nots
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I agree and disagree… reason why those teams are in the top, is because of modern management… most NFL teams run their franchise as it was 1992, our is run like it was 1972…
NYG was a bad team in the early ’00s, NYJ was a bad team in the middle ’00s Lions has been the laughing stock, but after all Matt Millens folk have been thrown out, they are on track to be the team they never were…
back to us, as long Al is alive or meddling which goes hand in hand, we will NOT win the division..
and I bet the year after he dies we will be in the playoffs…
Kareem, i dont like our roster, our starters would be great on great teams but on bad teams they cant pull all the way and that said, most our starters would be backups in wining franchises…
October 19th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Kareem, it’s not that the Raiders lost, it’s how they lost. They quit trying on offense after securing that bountiful 6-3 lead. You’d think they were playing the dynasty Steelers instead of the winless Whiners.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Grads or Boller should be quarterbacking this team, and the sooner we replace DHB the better.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:06 am
105. sf came hungry and they took the game from us. they lb’s looked like they had more effort and better hands than our wrs. i dont get that. im not upset tho. like i said this week we beat the shizz out a denver and get back in that div title race ghostto
October 19th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Raiders game plan: Bush for 1 yard.
Bush 0 yards.
3rd and 9.
Can of Soup, incomplete.
Five consecutive three-and-outs with the game on the line.
F@#$##@ck, try something different. Anything.
If I had to watch that crap one more minute I was going to stab myself in the retina with a dull object.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Redskins drop asking price for Albert Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2010 9:39 AM ET
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said yesterday that there’s a pretty good chance Albert Haynesworth will still be with the team after today’s 4 p.m. Eastern trade deadline. But that doesn’t mean Shanahan isn’t open to a trade.
In fact, Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports that the Redskins, who have consistently asked for a second-round pick in exchange for Haynesworth, could be dropping their asking price today.
The Titans, Haynesworth’s former team, appear to be the most likely to make a move to bring Haynesworth back.
Haynesworth has played in three games and missed three games this season, including the last two. Although the Redskins gave Haynesworth time off to deal with the death of his brother prior to Week Five, La Canfora reports that Haynesworth is “miffed” he didn’t play in Week Six.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Sorry Kirk … DHB gets a free pass because he’s Al’s baby. He will continue to take up space without production. He will not be replaced.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:11 am
our starters here would be starters everywhere. this roster is great like every nfl one is. the difference in who wins and loses comes down to coaching and execution. just cuz players got talent doesnt mean they execute the way they were taught or maybe the coaches didnt coach em right or put them in position to make plays or stop plays. u know. mclain is good. no. he great. i like seeing him blow up plays week in and week out. like his nasty approach like the raids of old
October 19th, 2010 at 7:11 am
But Fat Kidd, the only question that matters is: Are the Raiders going to make a trade today?
October 19th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Did anybody watch the post game interviews on Comcast.
Out of all they guys they interviewed, I never once saw any anger about how poorly the team played.
I kept hearing the same thing, “Well, back to the drawing board.”
F@$#%*ck me. That drawing board has to be overflowing after eight years of going back to it.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:15 am
i like seymour. haynesworth is done. cable doesnt need a headache in the locker room. his character guys will be on the right track. you’ll see first hand when we cut that bronco horse up with the pirate sword this sun
October 19th, 2010 at 7:18 am
kelly gonna drop his pants again after orton sack. be prepared
October 19th, 2010 at 7:23 am
A culture of losing is the hardest thing in the world to change. Kiffin and Cable have tried, but being hobbled by Al, they’ve not had much success.
Here’s what I want: to get rid of almost any guys who have been here longer than 2, maybe 3, seasons. Get rid of guys who have been here through most of the last agonizing 8 years.
I want them to go because those guys are conditioned to lose. We can’t have players in Oakland who have a “Here we go again” mentality.
I’d see what I could get for the following guys:
Asomugha
Kelly
Gallery
Huff
Routt
Howard
Higgins
Carlisle
That crew might bring a nice haul of players and picks. Don’t care of it happens now or on draft day. But guys who are used to being kicked around and accept it as part of life have got to go. The roster needs turned over.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Get rid of Asomugha, Huff and that will mean Al Davis will spend the next 10 years worth of 1st & 2nd round picks + millions in free agents.
Who cares about the secondary….safeties or otherwise.
Get a REAL front 7 that pressures the QB into mistakes and stops the damn run.
This POS team gives up long runs every single week when in reality a team should only give up a handful of runs like that in a YEAR!
This team is poorly constructed
October 19th, 2010 at 7:28 am
I’d add Walker and MHenderson to that list too. Except for 2002, Walker has only known losing and I don’t believe Mario’s mentally tough enough to rebound from a loser’s mentality.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Fat albert isnt worth more than a 5th
October 19th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Singletary was right about one thing, man: “I want winners.” Right now, so much of the roster falls into “Can’t coach ‘em. Can’t win with ‘em.”
October 19th, 2010 at 7:31 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Fat albert isnt worth more than a 5th
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Maybe the Raiders will offer another 4th round pick for another player off the Redskins’ scrap heap…
October 19th, 2010 at 7:31 am
119.La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Fat albert isnt worth more than a 5th
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He is absolutely worth a 3rd rounder.
THe Raiders can’t draft for shhhhhhh.
Trade that pick and get someone in here that will make a difference.
Hell, give’m Tommy Kelly in the package. That man is useless on the field.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Is there a way to “mute” posts from certain posters?
October 19th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Next week against the Broncos has to be all about running the football with Bush and DMAC. Period.
This team does not have the horses to be an elite passing team.
To do that you need good hands and route running from your receivers, good pass blocking lineman (especially LT), and a QB that can see over the line, is accurate and can get the ball out of his hands and down the field.
The Raiders are so far removed, passing wise, from the Texans, Colts, Patriots, Chargers and others. Stop forcing a square peg in a round hole.
Run the ball 30 to 35 times….and throw the ball no more than 25x
October 19th, 2010 at 7:38 am
122. kelly is much better than haynesworth. i think seymour is too. we just need better support from trev scott and the safetys on run plays. mclain is givin em hell this year snb off
October 19th, 2010 at 7:39 am
kelly is much better than haynesworth.
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Dude, pass whatever you’re smokin’ over this way.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:40 am
balanced offense will do the trick against denver. 25 passes and runs. bruce g and darren m back in there. raiders hungry to prove they are a better team than what showed against sf. raids take this one by 3 scores and slap the hell out of josh mcdonalds cable!
October 19th, 2010 at 7:44 am
You need Bush and DMAC.
DMAC is not a durable back that you want slamming up the middle. You want both wearing down defenses all game long.
THe passing game should be used in advantageous situations…not as the primary weapon.
How many Jacoby Ford/Louis Murphy bobbles does one need to see.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:44 am
kelly is much better than haynesworth.
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Not in this universe.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:45 am
oak is 1-0 in div games and u win div u make playoffs. raids gonna control this next game from start to finish so piss and moan about sf all u want but come sunday we going 2 smash some orange n blue and spit on there graves then you guys can shut the hell up and show some respect to my team
October 19th, 2010 at 7:47 am
How many Jacoby Ford/Louis Murphy bobbles does one need to see.
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Bobbles? – The 4th qtr ints looked like volleyball setters serving up a tasty one for the dbs.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:48 am
a 3rd fro Fat Albert, jesus… then we have a d-line with all the worst has-beens…
Fat Albert disses his teammates in a way that would embarrass TO, why get a guy that cant play anymore and that think he is moses, and on top of that he disses players that are better than him…
October 19th, 2010 at 7:56 am
because the Raiders will NEVER draft a good DT. all their picks go to DBs.
Because Tommy Kelly is terrible and Henderson is old and injured.
Because Haynesworth became a player as a 4-3 DE.
Him and Seymour together might fail just like everything else around here.
At least they would be good on the Madden 11 game
October 19th, 2010 at 7:57 am
owens and haynesworth are not needed. just coach up these guys and execute the gameplan. we have the talent to go playoffs like coach says. i think were getting healthy at the right time 2. beat sd already. denver n kc got nuthin.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:00 am
128. kelly isnt terrible and henderson isnt old. seymour is top 10 at any dl spot. mclain is pro bowl. just need henders to get healthy to give the starter dts a rest. raids do lack depth. safetys have to tackle 2. cant blame it all on 1 guy snb off
October 19th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Albert just needs to be happy as a 4-3 NT…we can accomodate him, especially if the Skins only need a 3rd rounder. The vast majority of his K has already been paid.
I’d take a D-line of:
RDE Matt S
DT Kelly
NT Haynesworth
LDE Seymour
Too bad we would trade for him and then try to convert him to LT or DE or some other dumbazz idea.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Cut Campbell (Jason not Bruce).
I would rather roll with Aaron Brooks.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Goooooooooo Hawkeyes!
October 19th, 2010 at 8:05 am
As cancers go, Charles Barkley < Haynesworthless.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Go Badgers!
October 19th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Goooo Longhorns!
Always a good weekend when ND wins and Neb and Mich lose.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:10 am
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Too bad we would trade for him and then try to convert him to LT or DE or some other dumbazz idea.
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LOL, probably.
I’d actually relegate Kelly to backup and keep Houston at DE or move Seymour outside and put Houston at DT.
If Washington would take something like a 4th or 5th + Kelly for Fat Albert, I’d say go for it.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:12 am
The best thing that can happen to the Raiders next season is a lock-out.
That way we don’t lose 11 or more games!
October 19th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Magic, what are you doing? Why would you sell your stake in the Lakers in order to maybe be a part owner/President of the Pistons? Magic, since you are from there, you must know that Michigan is a long ways away from SoCal!
October 19th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Does Haynesworth play QB or something? You guys are fkin loco.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:15 am
BSJ, he wouldn’t be my top priority or anything close to it, but if the price is cheap, I say go for it.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:16 am
141.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Does Haynesworth play QB or something? You guys are fkin loco.
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Bo, if you hadn’t noticed, part of our problem is that we are 30th in the NFL against the run.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:18 am
some of you fools need to have your fan card revoked
October 19th, 2010 at 8:20 am
# Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:16 am
141.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Does Haynesworth play QB or something? You guys are fkin loco.
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Bo, if you hadn’t noticed, part of our problem is that we are 30th in the NFL against the run.
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Yes, and part of this is due to time of possession and teams playing with a lead against the Raiders Defense.
Offensive production keeps the defense off the field and the ability to get a lead on teams would decrease their rushing attempts per game.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:24 am
im ready to see what kyle boller has to offer. if they dont think he can be the guy, trade mcfadden and murphy for mich vick
October 19th, 2010 at 8:24 am
I would like to see the number of plays per game the defense is averaging and compare that to the defense of one of the top offensive teams.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Dakota
Magic”s wife was also from Michigan.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:27 am
142. i dont want to purge any players from the roster. i like what we have. if we are going for haynesworth i wont be too upset as long as he behaves and stays in shape. and if wash only wants a 4th or 5th im ok with it. we need to keep those 2nd and 3rds silver
October 19th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Remember how bad our running game was when they stacked 8 in the box daring JaLoser to throw. Watch Denver use that D if Campbell goes into the game at any point. 9’s in second half used it repeatedly as Campbell checked down.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Bill Parcells’ bags have been packed
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 18, 2010 11:15 PM ET
Eight days ago, Florio posted that Bill Parcells’ departure from the Dolphins could be imminent.
And even though he still holds the title of “consultant,” Parcells has essentially already left. ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Parcells packed his bags and moved out of the Dolphins offices. He’s now no longer involved with the day-to-day activities of the team.
Schefter writes, “Miami knew this move was coming, it just didn’t realize it was coming so soon.”
They should have looked closer at Parcells’ resume,Parcells could not be reached in oakland for comment.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:32 am
earvin johnson jr played with me from 79-89. hell of a player. i taught him everything he knows
October 19th, 2010 at 8:34 am
150. cambell isnt playing denver. bruce g is back and we will win by 3 scores so dont even go there ok exlaraid
October 19th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Maybe in 2012 — after the lock-out — Big Al can get David Garrard to play QB. Or Trent Edwards.
Then John Herrara can put out a press releasing proclaiming that “Jim Fassel will be able to turn either one into the next Ken Stabler.”
Or maybe Garrard and Edwards can switch off every series and Big Al can call them Trent Garrard.
After the Raiders start 2-4 — “We just need to execute in the Red Zone,” Fassel will say — Big Al will tell Fassel to sit Trent Garrard and play the third-stringer who had a GREAT pre-season, Derek Anderson.
Then in 2013, Big Al will trade his first-round pick for Michael Vick, saying that the Eagles’ forgotten second-stringer has always been a true Rai-duh.
In 2014, Big Al will bring in Terrelle Pryor, who will have just been cut by the Bills, who drafted him way too high.
At an impromptu press conference in a supermarket parking lot, Big Al will hail “JaMarcus Pryor” as the next great Rai-duh quarterback.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Albert just needs to be happy as a 4-3 NT…we can accomodate him, especially if the Skins only need a 3rd rounder. The vast majority of his K has already been paid.
I’d take a D-line of:
RDE Matt S
DT Kelly
NT Haynesworth
LDE Seymour
Too bad we would trade for him and then try to convert him to LT or DE or some other dumbazz idea.
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LMAO!!! Dakota you are right they would do that. They would have Haynesworth playing the left DE spot.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:42 am
what are jerry mc chats like. never been to one
October 19th, 2010 at 8:42 am
I am LMAO at the comments being made about Haynesworth being disfunctional to this team. We have been gutted like a fish every game this year by the run. Really??? DO you really think he can do more damage to this lame @$$ offense, no better yeat team. Really???
STOP BSing PEOPLE THIS TEAM SUCKS RIGHT NOW!!!! THEY ARE NOT THAT GOOD ONCE AGAIN. I WOULD TAKE THE TALENTED BUM IN A NY MINUTE.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Raider75 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:20 am
# Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:16 am
141.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Does Haynesworth play QB or something? You guys are fkin loco.
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Bo, if you hadn’t noticed, part of our problem is that we are 30th in the NFL against the run.
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Yes, and part of this is due to time of possession and teams playing with a lead against the Raiders Defense.
Offensive production keeps the defense off the field and the ability to get a lead on teams would decrease their rushing attempts per game.
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This may have been the case in past seasons, but this season it’s like Kelly says, hold, hold, bang.
The only time I saw the true 06-style ineptitude of our offense this season was Sunday in the 3rd quarter. Our offense has been on field quite a bit more this year, they just don’t put up a lot of points with Campbell.
Raiders were on the field for 26 minutes, 39 seconds Sunday and average 30 minutes and 31 seconds per game so far this year.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:43 am
SD, the leagues #1 offense averages 32:55
October 19th, 2010 at 8:44 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:42 am
what are jerry mc chats like. never been to one
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They are cool. Not sure why Jerry answers the dumb questions that our submited instead of all the good ones but O well.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:47 am
160. thanks i will attend cj leg
October 19th, 2010 at 8:48 am
does jerry mc report anything in live chats that we wont find my reading his articles on this site?
October 19th, 2010 at 8:50 am
145.Raider75 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Yes, and part of this is due to time of possession and teams playing with a lead against the Raiders Defense.
Offensive production keeps the defense off the field and the ability to get a lead on teams would decrease their rushing attempts per game.
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In theory you are correct, however when looking at the numbers it just doesn’t hold up. You see, we only lost the TOP against Tenn 31 to 29, yet we gave up 205 yards rushing. And then we won the TOP battles against both AZ and Houston yet we gave up 368 yards rushing total in those two games.
Do we need to have the ball for 40 minutes in order for our Rush defense to work??????
October 19th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Raiders were on the field for 26 minutes, 39 seconds Sunday and average 30 minutes and 31 seconds per game so far this year.
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Our time of possession this Sunday was skewed by our first two drives, I would say 65% of our t.o.p. was on those 2 drives. I know the first drive was over 8 minutes.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Total load of bull. The run defense was bad against Houston when the offense was playing fairly well.
Those guys are garbage against the run. Been sayin it for YEARS.
Stop the run and you win games. The offense is going to struggle…you have to go on that assumption until they either get real NFL caliber starting talent or the plodding talent they do have have an about face.
Stop the run and win games. The Steelers got over with the WORST passing offense in the league due to great defense.
Stop trying to be like the Colts, Pats or Chargers.
We don’t have the organization, coaching or talent to develop a real top flight offense! And you know I am right.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Stop the run and you win games.
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Truth. We are 2-0 when holding the opposition to less than 100 yards, and 0-4 when giving up more than 100
October 19th, 2010 at 8:59 am
# Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:50 am
145.Raider75 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Yes, and part of this is due to time of possession and teams playing with a lead against the Raiders Defense.
Offensive production keeps the defense off the field and the ability to get a lead on teams would decrease their rushing attempts per game.
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In theory you are correct, however when looking at the numbers it just doesn’t hold up. You see, we only lost the TOP against Tenn 31 to 29, yet we gave up 205 yards rushing. And then we won the TOP battles against both AZ and Houston yet we gave up 368 yards rushing total in those two games.
Do we need to have the ball for 40 minutes in order for our Rush defense to work??????
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Yeah, I was wrong on this one. I checked the stats on NFL.com and the Raiders defense is 15th in the NFL with 363 defensive plays, yet they are giving up more yards and points per game than most of the league.
Defense is not that good.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:59 am
165. we have the talent to stop the run. just dont do it consistantly. the big plays hurt. saftyes need to step up in a big way and start popping rbs. poor angles and arm tackles havent done enough. just need trev scott out at de. matt sh is better and houston is a man possesd. mclain is pro bowl. team effort and motivation fixes everything. we are gonna take it to denver and put a few blue and orange on the injured list snb off
October 19th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Our front 7 need to stop the run.
Base D:
LDE: Seymour
DT: Henderson
DT: TK
RDE: Matt S
SLB: Wimbley
MLB: McClain
WLB: Groves/ TH
Passing situations:
LDE: T Scott/ Wimbley
DT: Seymour
DT: Houston
RDE: Matt S/ Wimbley
LBs: McClain & Wimbley/ TH
Start MM at SS!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Our safeties end up being in the top 10 IN THE LEAGUE AT ALL POSITIONS in tackles.
The front 7 stops the run…not safeties
October 19th, 2010 at 9:06 am
As much as I’d like to see Grads play Sunday, it will be the “Battle of the Kyle’s” Kyle Boller vrs. Kyle Orton.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:06 am
We rush players to start like we did with DHB & Murphy, and now we are doing it with Houston.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:07 am
next tuesday lakers destroy houston rockets. first 8 games only tough match ups are portland and phoenix
October 19th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Until the Raiders give up on Campbell, DHB, and Mitchell, we will continue to sck.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Bring back Gruden!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:10 am
last yr huff n branch were 2 of my favs. this yr they r goats. what the hell happened? team to improve or play eugene n mitchell instead
October 19th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I’ll be happy with Gruden or Harbaugh.
Fire Tom Cable, and the entire coaching staff!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Start M Mitchell at SS, and let Branch & Huff compete at FS. Cut Eugene, and let S Brown be the backup SS. We don’t need 5 Ss.
Cut Eugene and sign a DT/ NT.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Gruden or Cowher will coach the Cowgirls next year.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:16 am
This is so brutal.To beat SD and choke against the lowly Niners is just sickening.Cut Campbell, he is a loser.What have we done?This season had promise, now its over.We let KC become better than us?It is sickening,the nausea is overwhelming.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:16 am
172.Raider O Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:06 am
We rush players to start like we did with DHB & Murphy, and now we are doing it with Houston.
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Murphy is playing to draft position…maybe a little higher…he should be playing.
DHB is a developmental pick. Should have gone in the 3rd, 4th or even later rounds. Can’t catch consistently, poor route running etc…etc…etc.
Houston should be playing Defensive Tackle. He’s learning a new position. Seymour should be the DE and Houston setting inside. Just my opinion.
The Raiders draft athletes with a lot of raw talent…or they draft talented players and move them to new positions based on how they see their physical capabilities.
Problem is that the Raiders don’t have the time, due to lack of roster depth, nor the coaching to pull it off.
Get NFL READY players in the top end of the draft.
DHB would be fine as a 3rd rounder…but as 1st rounder…he’s a disaster and is holding the team back. YOU CANNOT WIN when your #1 guy get a couple of meaningless catches a game
October 19th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Wasnt’ Branch originally a cornerback.
Jhill brought up the idea that the Raider players lack good instincts because they are all trying to learn new positions at the highest level of football.
I agree with that premise
October 19th, 2010 at 9:20 am
tom cable is doing a fine job. he just needs his players to execute better. cant blame him for jano missed fgs. murphy and ford catches turned intercepts. injuries. overthrows or drops. chris johns fail to cover crabs or v davis fake block wide open catch done previously against seattle. these guys know what to do. even team captain nnam says so. too many mental mistakes. look prepared monday thru saturday and then lost on sunday when it matters.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:23 am
From Bleacher Report:
Oakland Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell may have more than a sprained left knee. He tells CSN Bay Area that he thinks he “maybe” has a meniscus tear that he picked up during the team’s 17-9 loss to the San Francisco 49ers in which Campbell managed to gain only 83 yards and throw two interceptions.
Yes, IR him
October 19th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Campbell plays like he’s on Pain meds (which he prolly is)…he’s been shell shocked and apparantly copuld use a Sports Psychologist, cause w/ a week to prepare, he looked SCARED!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:24 am
182. branch was a cb at uconn and nnamdi was a safety at cal. jared allen was drafted to long snap for kansas pity. you draft players and develop them at whatever nfl position they fit best snb off
October 19th, 2010 at 9:26 am
sf played jason cambell 2x this yr and effed him up both times. kyle boller send there dcord a thank you card
October 19th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Then they gotta start developing them….
Too many Michael Huff, JLH, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard types on this team that just don’t improve measurably enough to be reliable contributors….let alone the stars they were projected to be.
Develop someone!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Campbell is ‘looking for away out’…
He’s due to ’slip down some stairs’ and get IR’d if this knee injury doesn’t get him there…
JC IS Jim Plunkett, the ‘Battered, shell shocked” Jim Plunkett that came to the Raiders and sat for a year, to get his head straight…not the Plunkett that won 2 Super Bowls…
October 19th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I say we go find Jamarcus, wake him up, scrub the purple mustache ring from his face, stretch the XXXL #2 over his fat frame and get him on the field. Of the tall, dark, and helpless quarterbacks we’ve had of late, he might be the best. At least he clapped his hands a few times in the huddle and hit the occasional deep ball.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:30 am
after we trade mcfadden and murphy for mich vick the top 5 off players leftover will be bush dhb z mills satele and gallery
October 19th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Mike VIck IS NOT coming to Oakland…
Get Over it!
His stock is too high to end up here…
October 19th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Ironic how Al will overpay players,
but goes w/ Bargain Basement Coaches…
It’s like having a Ferrari, and buying Discount gas,
it’ll never run right…
October 19th, 2010 at 9:36 am
I wondered what Art Shell was doing. Turns out he works for the Players Union. ”
Currently, fines and suspensions for on-field infractions are reviewed by Art Shell and Ted Cottrell. It’s unknown at this point whether Shell and Cottrell will have that same role when it comes to suspensions for a first-offense violation of the helmet-to-helmet rule.”
October 19th, 2010 at 9:39 am
who would philly want on def if we went that way instead. seymour and wimbley. good trade 4 vick. kelly and houston inside with matt shaug and scott outside. r brown and howard can start next to pro bowl mclain until groves is back. b davis and s williams is depth. mikchael mitchell can play olb 2
October 19th, 2010 at 9:43 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:20 am
tom cable is doing a fine job.
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LMFAO yeah right.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:43 am
VanHeathen Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Ironic how Al will overpay players,
but goes w/ Bargain Basement Coaches…
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Well of course. Good coaches will actually want to do things their own way and we certainly can’t have that at 1220 Bay Harbor Parkway.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:46 am
GM should be a position where you have too be elected by the fans,right now we need a republican GM to come in and loot the team treasury driving al into bankruptcy,when a player gets hurt the republican GM could say doctor you dont need a doctor thats a luxury.we treat you everyone will want medical coverage!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:47 am
kareemabduljabbar,
Are you appearing at any comedy clubs soon after you get out of Betty Ford?
October 19th, 2010 at 9:50 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:47 am
kareemabduljabbar,
Are you appearing at any comedy clubs soon after you get out of Betty Ford?
…………….do you mean betty ford clinic or that he is banging hips with betty ford?
October 19th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Campbell sucks….Al Davis suck…Cable sucks and Priesst SUCKS!
Freakin LAME!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:52 am
199. im too old for stand up comedy now. why do u ask. i didnt say any jokes exlaraid
October 19th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Fat Kidd:
LMFAO at the thought of him doing Betty Ford
October 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:23 am
From Bleacher Report:
Oakland Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell may have more than a sprained left knee. He tells CSN Bay Area that he thinks he “maybe” has a meniscus tear that he picked up during the team’s 17-9 loss to the San Francisco 49ers in which Campbell managed to gain only 83 yards and throw two interceptions.
Yes, IR him
^^^^^^^^
Cool…we won’t be seeing him start again this year!
He is the worst QB on the roster as of now.
Grads and Boller are way ahead of him!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
# kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:18 am
some of you fools need to have your fan card revoked
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after reading your posts, im not sure you are the one who should be using the term fool, pretty sure its us…
“trade Murphy”, “Cable is doing a fine job” and “satele is worth keeping” WHAT!?!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
I feel like some big deals are going down today. I kind of hope the Raiders can pick up Haynseworth. How about Tommy Kelly for Albert? Nnamdi and DHB for Calvin Johnson and draft pick? Sounds good to me.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:56 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:53 am
# kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:18 am
some of you fools need to have your fan card revoked
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after reading your posts, im not sure you are the one who should be using the term fool, pretty sure its us…
“trade Murphy”, “Cable is doing a fine job” and “satele is worth keeping” WHAT!?!
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I count 3 jokes right there!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:56 am
How about Nnamdi and DHB for Logan Mankins and the #1 back?
October 19th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Bring on the firesale!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 am
im 63 years old. no way im booking a comedy club anytime soon. stumbled upon this blog this morning and i like it. i question whther or not some here are haters or fans tho
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Campbell sucks…..Al Davis sucks….Cable sucks and Priesst SUCKS!
They are all Freakin LAME!
LOL
October 19th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:56 am
How about Nnamdi and DHB for Logan Mankins and the #1 back?
^^^^^^^
There you go. Pats won’t give the #1 back…but they may give up one of their 2nd rounders.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:00 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 am
im 63 years old. no way im booking a comedy club anytime soon. stumbled upon this blog this morning and i like it. i question whther or not some here are haters or fans tho
……….we are both fans who hate too lose……….
October 19th, 2010 at 10:01 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 am
im 63 years old. no way im booking a comedy club anytime soon. stumbled upon this blog this morning and i like it. i question whther or not some here are haters or fans tho
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Laker fans are happy to have you here. Hater not so much.
Lakers in 7
October 19th, 2010 at 10:01 am
How about the Easter Bunny and the Tooth fairy for Santa Clause?
Won’t happen, you all are on that stuff.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Chaz Schilens (knee) has been “getting back some of his burst,” according to the Oakland Tribune.
Schilens had knee surgery on August 24 and was supposed to miss 3-6 weeks, but it’s no surprise the notoriously slow healer is coming up on two months now. Although it sounds like he’s improving, there’s still no timetable for his return.
Source: Oakland Tribune
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Kareemabduljabbar, there are few haters on this blog, only realists. Do you know KoolKell? You guys are about the same age.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I dont see Al trading Asomugha.
I can only see us trading Huff, sice he is in his last year, and was AFC Defensive PLayer of the Week las week, maybe someone bites. Also we could see what Mitchell has to offer, and Eugene or maybe Stevie Brown could do the same he does.
Also THoward could be traded. He can be valuable in a Cover-2 defense like the ones TB or Indy uses.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
You don’t get a very good player for two or three BS players with potential on a BS team like the Raiders.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Waste of talent kid. Good player bad body.
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DMAC Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Chaz Schilens (knee) has been “getting back some of his burst,” according to the Oakland Tribune.
Schilens had knee surgery on August 24 and was supposed to miss 3-6 weeks, but it’s no surprise the notoriously slow healer is coming up on two months now. Although it sounds like he’s improving, there’s still no timetable for his return.
Source: Oakland Tribune
October 19th, 2010 at 10:04 am
#198 post of the year.
If the Raiders switch to Grads and Boller, at least we will have a chance to win the rest of the year. Get rid of DHB as well.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:04 am
No one will trade us a QB who can play, thats for sure.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:05 am
217. i dont know koolkell. i dont see all the negativity as being real. we are 1-0 in div games. ready to see orange crush and whip there asz raiderray
October 19th, 2010 at 10:06 am
No hunger. You’ve got the highest paid team in the NFL. Where’s the hunger. Sunday will tell.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Kirk maybe Grads but I keep telling you guys that Boeller was not that good in Baltimore. He was worse than Campbell in Washington. No faith in Boeller or Campbell. Liked him as 3rd QB at the start of season now we will see.
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Kirk Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:04 am
#198 post of the year.
If the Raiders switch to Grads and Boller, at least we will have a chance to win the rest of the year. Get rid of DHB as well.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Schilens… when we draft talent the kid is a broken toy.
But when we draft hype they never miss a game (Huff, Kirk, JaFatty, Howard,…)
October 19th, 2010 at 10:08 am
we are getting mich vick by trade. we have until 4pm eastern today i think.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:11 am
No way we get Vick, maybe Sage Rosenfels, there were rumors we wanted him.
Maybe some team wants Jason Campbell, at least to be a backup.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:11 am
CJ, I didn’t see Boller in Baltimore, but in preseason for us, he looked pretty good. I believe he’s better than Campbell.
Getting rid of DHB would help all the quarterbacks.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
What is all this speculation about a trade for Vick or another QB? I thought Garbagekowski was the next Rich Gannon!?!?!?!
October 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
another possibilty is vince jackson at sd. mankins and hayesworth arent going to happen. lines are fine. we have to pass threat to go with run. al davis wants points and wins. nobody currently at qb or wr gives us that
October 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
We went into Sunday like a crushed team. Kind of like how SD went in to St. Louis….What I can’t figure out is we should been on a high but weren’t. I can understand the SD loss, but Oakland?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:14 am
I dont know if it the WRs or the QB, Grads seems to have a faster release than JC and finds the WRs much better, TV replays showed WRs open in the SF game and JC didnt made the pass.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:15 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
another possibilty is vince jackson at sd
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You told another funny. SD would never trade him within the division. Norv do AD one. Right. At least Al Davis paid Norv, as far as I know?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:16 am
If we had an accurate QB we would have been 7-0 ahead after the firt play in the game, Murphy was open by 15 yads and thats a fact.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Maybe SD gives us Rivers and their 1st for Gradkowski.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Trade Huff, TK, Routt, ans CJ.
Cut Eugene, Sam Williams, and Cooper.
Fire Cable.
Later Nation.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:19 am
We should trade Gallery too, he cannot stay healthy.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:20 am
cables coaching seat luke warm .warm,hot,burn baby burn?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:23 am
DHB, Satele, Langston, Howard for mankins and maybe a 3rd…
October 19th, 2010 at 10:27 am
im being serious here. i dont think its out of the question to give philly seymour and wimbley for vick. maybe takes ‘10 and ‘11 2nd rounders to get v jackson. all these players are in the last year of there contracts looking for big money in the offseason
October 19th, 2010 at 10:28 am
236. why would sd want bruce g eltato
October 19th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Jackson is one DUI away from a 1 year suspension, yet he wants mega $$$
F-him
October 19th, 2010 at 10:34 am
The NFL is turning into a flag football league….we are going to have to watch the Canadian Football League to see some tackling.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:34 am
# kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:28 am
236. why would sd want bruce g eltato
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Just being sarcastic
October 19th, 2010 at 10:35 am
243. so was jared allen and minnesota loves him dakota
October 19th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Dakota,
The Cubbies picked Tom Quade to be the new MGR.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Give Philly Huff, Howard and Gallery for the QB they dont want. They need a S, LB and OL help.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Hey guys,
Technically new here, but been trolling and reading your posts…(arguments) about our team amongst yourselves. I’ll be straightforward and say we can’t win much games with the current cast of QB’s we have. JC has the physical tools, but like JR physical tools does not make a NFL quality QB. Bruce has got a fighting spirit but I’ve seen so many times his passes get batted down at the L.O.S. He does give us a fighting chance but he also gives us a chance to lose the game as well.
But let’s not lose track that the division is still ours to win. KC, Oak, Den, and SD in that order first to last. We’re one FG, and possibly 2 good drives with good QB play to being 5-1. SF is a good team no matter how you look at it their 0-5 record consists of close games to Saints, Falcons, and Eagles. They did shoot themselves in the foot in those games. Houston is also a good team who beat the Colts and ‘Skins who are playing pretty well this season as well. Our only real blow out came against Tennessee.
Call me optimistic, but I’m realistic in thinking that we can still win the division.
Airborne!
October 19th, 2010 at 10:37 am
248. i would make that trade eltato
October 19th, 2010 at 10:37 am
247.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Dakota,
The Cubbies picked Tom Quade to be the new MGR.
++++++++
New owner must be cheap.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Dakota,
Here’s the link http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39742788/ns/sports-baseball/
October 19th, 2010 at 10:38 am
How about the Easter Bunny and the Tooth fairy for Santa Clause?
Won’t happen, you all are on that stuff.
I’m hoping for the Lochness Monster, he has great size
October 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I hope we just dont do something stupid like we did with Randy Moss or Charles Woodson or Seymour or Javon Walker or JaMarcus or DHB or Gibril Wilson or MeAngelo Hall or Mitchell or Huff or Tommy Kelly or Aaron Brooks.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
253. al davis does whatever it takes to win. a big trade is not out of the question inone
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Damn Florio puts Cable #4 on hotseat. AD’s sure to keep him to prove him wrong.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
I dont think the Lochness Monster has the speed to play here, but who knows, maybe we could bring him for a try out.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Jerry………
Cable says Raiders could do something with regard to trade, will see what next 24 hours brings. 1 minute ago via web
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
255.kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
253. al davis does whatever it takes to win. a big trade is not out of the question inone
++++++++++
Al Davis throws a lot of schyt against the wall and hopes some of it sticks. That is clearly GM skill set.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
253. al davis does whatever it takes to win. a big trade is not out of the question inone
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Another joke. lmfao. Where have you been the last 7 years?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Jerry……
Jason Campbell had MRI on his left knee and no structural damage, although he’s sore. less than 20 seconds ago via web
October 19th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Meant: That is clearly HIS GM skill set.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Jerry………..
Cable hopes to have McFadden and possibly Bennett this week to give Bush a change-of-pace alternative in backfield. 2 minutes ago via web
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Jerry………
Cable says Raiders could do something with regard to trade, will see what next 24 hours brings. 1 minute ago via web
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Jerry tweeted that 20 hrs ago.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 am
It official now… we just traded for the Lochness Monster.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Same for 261
October 19th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Post 87.
Ghost you have a valid point there. I was one who thought there was parity in the league. But you couldn’t be more right. It’s the same teams every yr. And the NFL don’t care cause they make a lot of money still from those teams. One thing that frusterates me though is all the NFL shows talk about the same crap all day every day. The cowboys, Bret farve, Tom Brady, the list goes on. There’s no parity.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:45 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Jerry………
Cable says Raiders could do something with regard to trade, will see what next 24 hours brings. 1 minute ago via web
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Jerry tweeted that 20 hrs ago.
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Sorry buddy!!!!
I just got the schit.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:46 am
El Tato Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 am
It official now… we just traded for the Lochness Monster.
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Gave them 2-6 in next draft
October 19th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Mel Gibson will be in Hangover 2….I schyt you not!
October 19th, 2010 at 10:47 am
DMAC,
Wasn’t trying to be a smart ass, I look at his tweets
and Tafurs.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Mel Gibson will be in Hangover 2….I schyt you not!
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Took Gibson unstead of Tiger Woods figureing his image needed more of a rehab. lol
October 19th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Kareem, man you are just h0rny for Vick, huh? I cant fathom why?
another thing, he is everything in a qb that Al hates, it will NEVER happen, Vick runs more than he throws, Al want a WB to be still as a statue and deliver the ball 300 yds away..
October 19th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Its all good. Just trying to feed the Nation w/ some news.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Raiders HC Tom Cable, asked by Jerry McDonald about why he traded for the Lochness Moster said: “we just wanted to give Zach Miller some competition at TE, he is not getting his job done”
October 19th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Mel Gibson could murder an entire orphanage of children…and Mad Max and Braveheart would still be a couple of my favorite movies lol.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Problem is that the Raiders don’t have the time, due to lack of roster depth, nor the coaching to pull it off.
Nnamdi was a safety playing corner, T Scott was a DE playing LB, Stevie Brown was a LB playing safety, T Kelly was a DE playing DT, Matt Shaughnessey was a lb playing DE, Seymour was a DE playing DT, Reece was a WR playing FB, Robert Gallery was a LT playing G. If you ask me at this point in these players career they’re playing the position they should be playing
October 19th, 2010 at 10:52 am
DMAC Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Its all good. Just trying to feed the Nation w/ some news.
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Good job, some might not have seen it.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:52 am
#
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:42 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:39 am
253. al davis does whatever it takes to win. a big trade is not out of the question inone
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Another joke. lmfao. Where have you been the last 7 years?
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yeah its nice to have a court jester, saying all the stuff than we cant even imagine…
October 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Ya, and I like watching old replays of Chris Benoit. lol
October 19th, 2010 at 10:54 am
LMN my soci@list brother….are you happy now that the US is almost as pussified as your country?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:54 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Problem is that the Raiders don’t have the time, due to lack of roster depth, nor the coaching to pull it off.
Nnamdi was a safety playing corner, T Scott was a DE playing LB, Stevie Brown was a LB playing safety, T Kelly was a DE playing DT, Matt Shaughnessey was a lb playing DE, Seymour was a DE playing DT, Reece was a WR playing FB, Robert Gallery was a LT playing G.
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Very true. Anyone here knows what DHB real position is?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Is it Sunday yet. I have to set my FF team. My heart went into shock when Vince Young went down. He’s my backup for Peyton on this bye week.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:56 am
DMAC Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Jerry………
Cable says Raiders could do something with regard to trade, will see what next 24 hours brings. 1 minute ago via web
^^^^^^^^
They need to try and get Logan Mankins or trade a player or two and try and get 1st Rounder and or 2nd Rounder.
Maybe Fat Albert, if they don’t have to pay him big money.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Why are people still so upset about Mitchell? Guy’s not even halfway through his second season and while he hasn’t taken over the league he hasn’t played poorly when he’s gotten a chance.
Is this still based off that dumb Radio sports talk host from Miami who reported the coaches wanted to cut Mitchell? Does that report really have that much staying power? And why would anyone put so much stock in an unknown DJ from the other corner of the country about the inner workings of the Raiders?
Not predicting he’s the next Polamalu but how about waiting till the guy actually performs bad before writing him off as a bust. He’s probably better at this point than Nnamdi was in his 2nd season.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Very true. Anyone here knows what DHB real position is?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sprinter? Decoy? Spreader of the zone?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Let’s put JC on IR if his knee is serious, grab Colt Brennan back and groom him for the future. Trade Howard and CJ37 for next year’s draft. Maybe make a move for a OT, Jared Gaither still injured if not is he available?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Howard or CJ37 are not worth more than a 6 or 7th rounder, both backups.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Brennan? Really? come on!!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:03 am
well diner time, take care… keep on those guesses trade AL for Kraft…
October 19th, 2010 at 11:06 am
People we are missing the point. This team is not very good. The niners defense turned back the clock and played a hell of a game. The niners offense played keep away for most of the second & 3rd quarters. The raiders defense was very good but had some crucial break downs, that is where we lost the game.
Dont forget a good defensive game can make any qb look bad. This was a game that was a defensive battle where we could have won with our kicker, in the nfl you must be able to win that way on occasion. Your qb wont always be sharp, your running game me be sputtering, and you need to find a way to win. That is what the good teams do.
When you watch the steelers and ravens or jets, this is how they win at times, especially when they play one another. You wont have many scoring opportunities, you must capitalize when you get them, but more important you cant afford blown coverages, missed assignments, whiffs on tackles in that type of game. That is the real failure from sundays game.
It wasnt that the niner offense was any better than ours, they both struggled. the difference was the raider defense made critical errors, and the niner defense did not.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:07 am
273. i could never be herny for another man. not sure why you brought that up. vick is an excellent qb and he’s showing that this year. dual threat to run or pass. kolb is reids qb of choice and vick is a free agent next year. if he could get a few players like seymour and wimbley or those guys eltato brought up why wouldnt he la mili
October 19th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Anybody else hear the rumor of Nnamdi to AZ for Fitz?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:08 am
trade rumor
DHB for Kevin Kolb
October 19th, 2010 at 11:10 am
288. 5th and 6th could probably get us a pick in the 4th. Or if they perform well maybe move up a round based on their performance.
289. I like Brennan, mobile, has the intangibles, decent arm strength(by what I hear he throws a nice 50 yarder), I think he’s much better than JC.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Why are people still so upset about Mitchell? Guy’s not even halfway through his second season and while he hasn’t taken over the league he hasn’t played poorly when he’s gotten a chance.
Is this still based off that dumb Radio sports talk host from Miami who reported the coaches wanted to cut Mitchell? Does that report really have that much staying power? And why would anyone put so much stock in an unknown DJ from the other corner of the country about the inner workings of the Raiders?
Not predicting he’s the next Polamalu but how about waiting till the guy actually performs bad before writing him off as a bust. He’s probably better at this point than Nnamdi was in his 2nd season.
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I watched the game last night, and mitchell was one of the best players on the field. He was all over the place. he played well in coverage, he was a beast by the line of scrimmage, and he tackled well. he at this point is outplaying all of our safeties. He has been one of the few bright spots on our defense this year. I love how he punishes people with violent tackles, i wish we had more guys with his attitude.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:12 am
another possibilty is vince jackson at sd. mankins and hayesworth arent going to happen. lines are fine. we have to pass threat to go with run. al davis wants points and wins. nobody currently at qb or wr gives us that
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Are you for realz? Since when have are lines been fine?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Hey Herrera, wake up Al Davis before the deadline pass’s.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:12 am
i really think trading Aso will be good. i dont want him to go but it will help our teams future with some good picks. let him move on. he will never win here. by the time we turn it around he will be done. id love to see him on a team thats got a shot.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Mistic, I agree about Mitchell. That was the first game he played well with a “tude”. Fianally did not look lost.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:14 am
nnamdi for vick and ….
October 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Im not sure why anyone would want colt brennan. i know he put up numbers in that coleco vision run & shoot. That was college against inferior talent. the fact that this guy cant seem to even make it on any ones roster as a number three tells me you dont want him as your starter. Also he wasnt even here long enough to learn the play book, there is no way you can bring in a guy off the street and get him ready to play this season.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:06 am
People we are missing the point. This team is not very good. The niners defense turned back the clock and played a hell of a game. The niners offense played keep away for most of the second & 3rd quarters. The raiders defense was very good but had some crucial break downs, that is where we lost the game.
Dont forget a good defensive game can make any qb look bad. This was a game that was a defensive battle where we could have won with our kicker, in the nfl you must be able to win that way on occasion. Your qb wont always be sharp, your running game me be sputtering, and you need to find a way to win. That is what the good teams do.
When you watch the steelers and ravens or jets, this is how they win at times, especially when they play one another. You wont have many scoring opportunities, you must capitalize when you get them, but more important you cant afford blown coverages, missed assignments, whiffs on tackles in that type of game. That is the real failure from sundays game.
It wasnt that the niner offense was any better than ours, they both struggled. the difference was the raider defense made critical errors, and the niner defense did not.
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Umm. No.
Campbell was terrible. He continues to shy away from making throws down field. He’s led the offense to 1, count it 1 touchdown in his three starts. And that was a garbage-time score when we were already losing 38-6 against Tennessee.
That’s why we lost the game.
Defense didn’t have a perfect game, but played well enough that even average QB play wins us that game going away.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
i’d love to see what Brennan has too!!! but dude is more fragile than bruce! my uncle lives in Hawaii and went to all the games and watched him get literally knocked out twice on routine plays. our line would get him paralized
October 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I watched the game last night, and mitchell was one of the best players on the field. He was all over the place. he played well in coverage, he was a beast by the line of scrimmage, and he tackled well. he at this point is outplaying all of our safeties. He has been one of the few bright spots on our defense this year. I love how he punishes people with violent tackles, i wish we had more guys with his attitude.
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Huff is my candidate #1 to be traded today, AFC Defensive PLyer of the Week last week, last year of contract, below-average play and enough depth to replace him (not only Mitchell but also Stevie Brown did well in preseason, and Eugene is mor or less the same Huff is)
October 19th, 2010 at 11:16 am
blockbuster trade…
October 19th, 2010 at 11:16 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Why are people still so upset about Mitchell? Guy’s not even halfway through his second season and while he hasn’t taken over the league he hasn’t played poorly when he’s gotten a chance.
Is this still based off that dumb Radio sports talk host from Miami who reported the coaches wanted to cut Mitchell? Does that report really have that much staying power? And why would anyone put so much stock in an unknown DJ from the other corner of the country about the inner workings of the Raiders?
Not predicting he’s the next Polamalu but how about waiting till the guy actually performs bad before writing him off as a bust. He’s probably better at this point than Nnamdi was in his 2nd season.
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I watched the game last night, and mitchell was one of the best players on the field. He was all over the place. he played well in coverage, he was a beast by the line of scrimmage, and he tackled well. he at this point is outplaying all of our safeties. He has been one of the few bright spots on our defense this year. I love how he punishes people with violent tackles, i wish we had more guys with his attitude.
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TOTALLY AGREE!
MM should be on the field more often.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:16 am
JC… first play of the game should have been a Murphy TD pass, Murphy was open by 15 yards, awful trhow.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:18 am
The Patriots are reportedly seeking a first-round pick or high second-round pick in exchange for unsigned restricted free agent LG Logan Mankins.
NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora hears that the Pats are “unlikely” to deal Mankins before Tuesday’s 4:00 p.m. deadline. Mankins is expected to sign his tender and rejoin the Patriots by November 16 to ensure that he accrues another season toward unrestricted free agency.
Source: NFL.com
October 19th, 2010 at 11:18 am
301. vick and winston justice 4 nnamdi r8er
October 19th, 2010 at 11:19 am
mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Why are people still so upset about Mitchell? Guy’s not even halfway through his second season and while he hasn’t taken over the league he hasn’t played poorly when he’s gotten a chance.
Is this still based off that dumb Radio sports talk host from Miami who reported the coaches wanted to cut Mitchell? Does that report really have that much staying power? And why would anyone put so much stock in an unknown DJ from the other corner of the country about the inner workings of the Raiders?
Not predicting he’s the next Polamalu but how about waiting till the guy actually performs bad before writing him off as a bust. He’s probably better at this point than Nnamdi was in his 2nd season.
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I watched the game last night, and mitchell was one of the best players on the field. He was all over the place. he played well in coverage, he was a beast by the line of scrimmage, and he tackled well. he at this point is outplaying all of our safeties. He has been one of the few bright spots on our defense this year. I love how he punishes people with violent tackles, i wish we had more guys with his attitude.
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Yeah. I feel like we have too many guys playing soft on the D at times. I think a Ray Lewis type leader — I know, difficult to find — inserted into that group, a guy who didn’t tolerate softness would instantly make this a top-5 defense. To me our problems on that side of the ball are all about inconsistent effort, lack of emotion and undisciplined play. I don’t sense Mitchell is part of that problem.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:19 am
I’ll pass on Justice.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:19 am
302. I’m not saying bring him in to start right away, just groom him to eventually start. Or at least see what the kid has.
304. Our line would get Manning and Brady paralyzed, too. Doesn’t matter who you put back there.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Please trade Huff!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:21 am
jason campbell for some syrup!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:22 am
kareem, i’ll pull the trigger on that trade in a second!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I’d never thought a QB could be worse than JaLoserpurpledrank. But Campbell is there.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Chris in NY Says
Umm. No.
Campbell was terrible. He continues to shy away from making throws down field. He’s led the offense to 1, count it 1 touchdown in his three starts. And that was a garbage-time score when we were already losing 38-6 against Tennessee.
That’s why we lost the game.
Defense didn’t have a perfect game, but played well enough that even average QB play wins us that game going away.
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Campbell did not play well. Our running game was a non factor. The o-line struggled. The entire offense was struggling. The niner defense played very well.
Our defense also played well for stretches, but the blown coverages for td’s and gore running and hogging the clock is what really killed us.
That is called a defensive battle. Sometimes kicking and defense have to win for you. The niners did not make any huge errors on defense, we did.
You have seen defensive games before? We had the lead and couldnt hold it. Also our defense couldnt get off the field in the second and third quarter, that is a problem.
As much as everyone wants to say its all on the qb, there is more to it than that.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
We should of just tried M. Bush at QB last week.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Campbell will be fine if we can just get a better line and some receivers. Yeah, he played a bad game, and we may have won if Grads had started, but Campbell isn’t the problem. Give him some weapons and protection and JC could take us to the playoffs.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I’d never thought a QB could be worse than JaLoserpurpledrank. But Campbell is there.
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This is no-ending nightmare, I was just going to post the same right now.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Huff makes a lot of plays he gets no credit for. And our pass defense is way down the list of problems for us. We’re allowing less than 200 yards pg. That’s damn good. And almost all the big plays we’ve given up in pass D are from Routt, Branch or in zone miscommunication.
If you guys are trying to blame the Run D on the free safety then we’ve got some serious problems.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:30 am
# Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Campbell will be fine if we can just get a better line and some receivers. Yeah, he played a bad game, and we may have won if Grads had started, but Campbell isn’t the problem. Give him some weapons and protection and JC could take us to the playoffs.
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CANNOT agre with you.
Did you see the first play of the game, that should have been a TD, Murphy was open by 15 yards.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
if john henderson isnt going to be back for another 4-5 weeks we may feel inclined to trade michael huff to philadelphia in exchange for bunkley. kelly and seymour need another big body to spell them. this may allow seymour to be moved all around the dl again and create mismatches
October 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
We didn’t have a threat at QB for the niners to worry about. They saw those happy feet and that two cent head of Campbell and they put 8 or 9 in the box to kill our running game.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
# Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Huff makes a lot of plays he gets no credit for. And our pass defense is way down the list of problems for us. We’re allowing less than 200 yards pg. That’s damn good. And almost all the big plays we’ve given up in pass D are from Routt, Branch or in zone miscommunication.
If you guys are trying to blame the Run D on the free safety then we’ve got some serious problems.
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Branch is playing worse than Huff right now, I agree, but Huff is a FA after this season, we should try get something for him.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Ranked #31 out of 32 NFL Starting QB’s last week with only Matt Moore beneath him. From Bleacher Report:
“Sticking a fork in Jason Campbell may be the saddest and most necessary conclusion to be drawn from the 2010 NFL season.
Through six years in the league, Campbell has been greeted with a completely new playbook almost every offseason since the Washington Redskins spent a first-round pick on him in 2005.
At this point, he’s interpreting football in five different languages, none of them fluently
October 19th, 2010 at 11:33 am
mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Chris in NY Says
Umm. No.
Campbell was terrible. He continues to shy away from making throws down field. He’s led the offense to 1, count it 1 touchdown in his three starts. And that was a garbage-time score when we were already losing 38-6 against Tennessee.
That’s why we lost the game.
Defense didn’t have a perfect game, but played well enough that even average QB play wins us that game going away.
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Campbell did not play well. Our running game was a non factor. The o-line struggled. The entire offense was struggling. The niner defense played very well.
Our defense also played well for stretches, but the blown coverages for td’s and gore running and hogging the clock is what really killed us.
That is called a defensive battle. Sometimes kicking and defense have to win for you. The niners did not make any huge errors on defense, we did.
You have seen defensive games before? We had the lead and couldnt hold it. Also our defense couldnt get off the field in the second and third quarter, that is a problem.
As much as everyone wants to say its all on the qb, there is more to it than that.
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I just don’t buy that the 49ers defense is that great. Campbell just won’t push the ball down the field. 80 yards passing? When have you ever seen a good QB put up numbers like that? Even against defenses much, much better than the 49ers D, which I consider a highly average unit.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:35 am
# Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Huff makes a lot of plays he gets no credit for. And our pass defense is way down the list of problems for us. We’re allowing less than 200 yards pg. That’s damn good. And almost all the big plays we’ve given up in pass D are from Routt, Branch or in zone miscommunication.
If you guys are trying to blame the Run D on the free safety then we’ve got some serious problems.
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Rich gannon pointed out how recievers were running right by branch and huff, he said ” I have seen it sveral times in this game”. A few plays later craptree runs a post, routt played the outside shoulder, but out centerfileder wasnt even in the picture. That is on the safety.
Tom flores during the game said ” our center field play is atrocious”.
Atkkinson siad ” safety must see routes develop, and not look into the back field” ” the Safeties are looking into the back filed and not watching the routes”.
Yep safety play is an Achilles heel on our team at the moment.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:35 am
John Clayton is reporting that Nnamdi is going to be traded to the Dolphins for Chad Henne and a draft pick.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:35 am
John Clayton is reporting that Nnamdi is going to be traded to the Dolphins for Chad Henne and a draft pick.
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source?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Campbell will be fine if we can just get a better line and some receivers. Yeah, he played a bad game, and we may have won if Grads had started, but Campbell isn’t the problem. Give him some weapons and protection and JC could take us to the playoffs.
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You guys are killing me.
1. Yes, we probably would’ve won by 2-3 TDs if Gradkowski played.
2. Yes, Campbell is the problem (along with poor o-line play).
3. (Cue Jim Mora) Playoffs?!?!?! Don’t talk to me about Jason Campbell and — Playoffs!?!?!?! I just hope the guy never plays another game for us. Playoffs. Are you kidding me!?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am
CHAD HENNE!!!!!!! From?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Just kidding
October 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Queefs 3-2
Raiders 2-4
Dolts 2-4
Donkies 2-4
I’m not throwing in the towel, just yet!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Atkkinson siad ” safety must see routes develop, and not look into the back field” ” the Safeties are looking into the back filed and not watching the routes”.
Yep safety play is an Achilles heel on our team at the moment.
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you know why right? they need to help our pathetic DL & LBs…..
October 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
# Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:35 am
John Clayton is reporting that Nnamdi is going to be traded to the Dolphins for Chad Henne and a draft pick.
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no sense, they dont need a CB, they have good young CBs in Sean Smith and Vontae Davis.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:41 am
fck chad….no way!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Aaaaayyyyyyy, RIP, Mr. Cunningham.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Randall?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Chris in NY Says
I just don’t buy that the 49ers defense is that great. Campbell just won’t push the ball down the field. 80 yards passing? When have you ever seen a good QB put up numbers like that? Even against defenses much, much better than the 49ers D, which I consider a highly average unit.
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I didnt say the niners have a great defense. I said they played a great game.
Campbell did throw down the field, he missed, it happens.
The raiders ran the ball a lot on the few possessions they had in the second quarter. Our o-line was dominated by the niner front seven.
We had the ball only once in the third quarter. Sometimes you must win even when your rb isnt putting up big numbers. i think bush had a 2. something yards per carry average. Sometimes you must find a way even when your qb isnt on.
For the record, i saw to different campbells in that game. First quarter he played well. Then he struggled, it happens.
This is when you need a take away from your defense, or a special teams play. we got neither. Our defense had about three different chances to take the ball away and failed. Add that with the defensive lapses and all of a sudden its ugly.
Good teams find a way to win 6-3, or 12-6 if they have to. This is not a good team. People should not be shocked by sundays out come.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:50 am
We weren’t shocked Campbell was starting we have come to expect it.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:51 am
# DMAC Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Randall?
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Randall? What is this, the future? I’m talking about Mr. Cunningham. Richie and Joanie’s dad. What’s wrong with you? Aaaaaayyyyy.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Hey Ray. Pls go fk yourself. Thanks!
-BSJ
October 19th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Al Davis probably just woke up. He only has little more than an hour to complete some trades that are going to turn this team around.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Jason Campbell looked like my sister. Aaaaaayyyyyy.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Hey Campbell, you left ya purse on tha field. Aaaaayyyyy.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:54 am
My bad. The only Cunningham I remember is Randall.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
And your balls in the locker room.. AAAAAyyyyeee
October 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
If any one on this board thinks that campbell is finished in oakland, you are wrong. This is Davis’s guy and he will get another shot, and more than likely he will out last cable.
Davis is very patient with his picks (sometimes to a fault), so its not over yet.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
MR, I watched Arthur Fonzarelli. I enjoyed Arthur Fonzarelli’s character.
You sir, are no Arthur Fonzarelli.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Fonzie can fix Campbell just like he made the jukebox play: smack him a good one and everything’s fine!
October 19th, 2010 at 11:55 am
You are spot on about JaJason Campbell tho…
October 19th, 2010 at 11:56 am
And we will root for his sorry ass too. But, he is done he just doesn’t know it yet.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Aaaaay, and you’re no Bo Jackson. More like Michael Jackson.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:57 am
BSJ is more like Tito Jackson.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Mistic, Campbell was finished in pop warner. Aaaaaayyyyy.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Al Davis reminds me of the Fonz.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Tito Jackson? If I was going to compare Bo to one of Michael’s sisters I would have went with LaToya..aaaaaayyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Wassuppp….
My daily dose of fact and fiction
MYTH – JC will be fine. We just need to surround him with good talent.
AIG says BS!!! This is another fiction from the JC fan club.
FACT – 2008 Skins – JC had the following probowlers: Clinton Portis RB, Mike Sellers FB, Chris Cooley TE, Chris Samuels LT. He also had Santana Moss a former probowler as his WR. How many points did his offense avg? 16.6 ppg and ranked 28th out of 32.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Weak.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Al Davis reminds me of an old guy taking forever to cross the street. aaaaayyyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
We will have to start listening to trades for Nnamdi and others pretty soon. This team is not that good and we need draft picks and cap room to rebuild.
The only way we have a chance of geting a good QB is back through the draft.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
The real fonz:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0903/nfl.10.afl.franchises/images/al-davis-oakland-raiders(ap).jpg
October 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Myth: Bo Schembechler Jackson has any resemblance to Bo Jackson, even gender. Aaaayyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
There are no trade available that can turn this team around this year. This is a 6 win team, help will come in the draft and off season. We are in a reloading phase.
Even if by some miracle we could make the play offs what good would that do us now, its not like we are a real contender.
This year should be about developing young players, and evaluating what we have.
Trade area 21? Why trade one of the best players at his position in his prime? That is not the davis way. Davis likes to collect great players, not trade them away.
What could you get for area 21 that you cant get in the draft next year, in terms of what this team needs.
I would rather draft for o-line than trade for malcontents, or guys already passing their prime. That could work for a team that is just a player or two away, that is not the boat we are in.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I disagree CJ. We will never develop a stud QB from the draft. Free agency or trade is the only way.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
If we’re going to have a stud QB we should start by putting a male QB in the lineup. Aaaaayyyy.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
MR, if you feel a need to imagine me as a woman pls keep it to yourself.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I wonder what QB’s have a chance to fall into our laps in the second round of next year? Christian Ponder?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Bo, all I need to do to imagine you as a woman is look at you. AAaaayyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Christian Ponder sounds like volleyball player. Aaaayyyy.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Put the Garbonzi kid in and let’s get some points on the board. Aaaayyyy. Jason Campbell makes me think I’m watching woman’s tennis.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Republicans look like they’re taking back congress. Bible freaks running the country again. Just what we need. Jeeeesus flippin crist….aaaayyyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
The Fonz was amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NxGO2lx-A0&feature=related
October 19th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
MR, if you feel a need to imagine me as a woman pls keep it to yourself.
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I imagine you as a woman all the time. What are you wearing?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Me and my old lady teabagged last night. Lipton packets, right before bed. What did you think? aaaayyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
All I need to do to imagine Bo slimbechler as a woman is look at him. Or listen to his shrill yapping about how great Al is. He sounds like Joanie. Ayyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Ray, you should still be fking yourself. I haven’t told you to stop yet. Thanks!
October 19th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
If I could fk myself I’d never leave the house. Oh, wait, that’s the diceman, not me. LOL. Aaayyyy. Campbell still looks like Bettie Crocker, ayyyyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Area 21? What a terrible nic…
October 19th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
My new nickname for Campbell is Beyonce Campbell. Ayyyyy
October 19th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
366. i think this team is just one or two players away. qb and wr mistic1
October 19th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Any trades yet?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
What do you have against Beyonce-she is one fine woman.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
366. i think this team is just one or two players away. qb and wr mistic1
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Yeah, if those two players happen to be Tom Brady and Larry Fitzgerald.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Lefty, Beyonce is fat.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
It’s still an insult to her.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
What do you mean stock is too high??? lol
Just beautiful !!
October 19th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
bo you talking to me…our those other ray?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Some want to trade all our good players for more draft picks.What for?All you guys do is complain about all of our draft picks.
October 19th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Anybody who says Beyonce is fat, qualifies as a real retard.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
386. vick and v jackson are available by trade. that would fix the pass o raiderray
October 19th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
October 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
386. vick and v jackson are available by trade. that would fix the pass o raiderray
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I doubt it. Plus, I wouldn’t trade for two players who are just as likely of getting suspended as being in the Pro Bowl.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
After shaking off the hard game it usually takes me til Tuesday to get back on the positive train………..whoever starts at QB in Denver…..please complete some damn passes so we can win. KC will win the next two games and shall head to Oakland 5-2. It would be nice to be 4-4 at that point and maybe just maybe we can play a meaningful game in November
October 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
# IslandRaider Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:04 am
“He offers hope, particularly for a team that is starving for leadership and direction, and that’s what jumps out at me when I look at Bruce Gradkowski and what he’s done the last three or four weeks,” Gannon said.
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Starving for leadership and direction. What key words.
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Very astute observations. Te main difference between JC (& JaLoser too) & Gradkowski is that when JC walks into the huddle he’s just 1 of 11 players looking for answers on what should we do whereas when Grads (or Gannon too) walked into the huddle he assumes the role of leader and tells them what they are going to do – that’s leadership. Grads (& Gannon too) is also the on-field coach talking players up and giving them tips on performance improvements. JC is just one of the guys rather than being THE GUY. That’s what leadership is all about and after 4-5 years, if JC hasn’t developed that skill set, he never will and by default is destined for failure as an NFL QB. Cut him now and let’s just keep looking for our long term solution.
I say trade Asomugha to Philly for Michael Vick, straight up. Having Asomugha is a luxury but having a franchise QB is an absolute necessity. M. Vick has the tools, experience & leadership ability to become that franchise QB. He used to be a RB pretending to be a QB. Since his prison stint, he’s matured and has become a pass first QB. Make the deal Al. Actually, you can throw JC in with Asomugha to make the deal look better (well, maybe it will LOL).
October 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Lefty12
Now you know why I get testy with these guy’s they don’t knw what they want except to whine and cry about everything.
Winning cures everything and until we get a legit NFL starter at QB we aint ging to win. Russell set us back 5 years and we have at least 2 left to go.
Bring in Mike Vick and everything changes.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Beyonce fat? LOL I dont think she is all that and I’d LAMBO Doors that fa sho but FAT? Come on. Only someone who lacks the equipment necessary to satisfy a woman like Beyonce would call her fat
October 19th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
dang Jerry saying were a 6 and 10 team at best, the realization of that probablity which is very possible is hard to swallow
October 19th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Vick not gonna change a damn thing IMO…….team got issues….Tackles on both lines suck…..WRs just not getting it done the safety combo is trash and the coaches……well need i say more?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
6-10 may be right….ill just go with 7-9 after we win meaningless games in december……..hopefully the loss at SF can wake these…..aw who am I kidding? The AZ game should have woke these guys up
October 19th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
After following this team the last few years, 6-10 looks good.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I think were a Peyton Manning and Bill Bellicheck away
October 19th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
LOL inoneword………no you mean Vince Lombardi and Johnny Unitas
October 19th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Fat Kidd likes Beyonce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTegy6sBQVA
October 19th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
6-10 does not look good at all…….still double digit losses…….this team has to win the next 3 games for any chance of the season to be a success
October 19th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
PORT ANGELES, Wash. — Rangers in Washington state suspect an encounter with a mountain goat killed a 63-year-old hiker in Olympic National Park.
The park service says Robert H. Boardman, of Port Angeles, was hurt Saturday as he hiked near the park’s Klahhane Ridge and died hours later at a Port Angeles hospital.
Officials did not provide any specifics on his injuries but said an early investigation indicates they were the result of an encounter with a goat.
Rangers tracked down and killed the animal, which will be analyzed by a veterinary pathologist.
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Testing for rabies?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Damn Drex in effect…….why did they have to kill the animal? People need to leave animals alone and not invade their space….guy deserved it just like the crocodile hunter
October 19th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
PriestTJ,
Was that you whining below? lmao…..calling your own comments “intelligent”?
[Comment From tjtj: ]
i send 2 intelligent comments and whopper or big mac makes it . are your screeners 12?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Man no Hendu until late november i bet…..we got tough RBs coming up in lynch,charles/thomas,mendenhall and williams/brown……….god hates us im convinced
October 19th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
B I think Vick would make all the difference in the world after watching this team lose the way they do I know a QB like Vick would’ve made a huge difference. Vick beats SF easily.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I was explaining to BHP all summer that the starting DT combo of Seymour and Kelly wont work through an NFL season…….,I’m sure the OG sees it now. Thank god SF just sucks as a team because constantly those two were getting pushed backwards. Should have drafted Cody or one of those NTs in the draft. Imagine our team with a young NT and a vet like Big John…….run defense would have been solved for sure….dammit
October 19th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
412.priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
B I think Vick would make all the difference in the world after watching this team lose the way they do I know a QB like Vick would’ve made a huge difference. Vick beats SF easily.
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Vick would make us a contender in the weak-azz division….but he would never win a SB. But hey, baby steps!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
BHP……..for some reason I think Vick would come here and suck too……but why are we talking about Vick? He aint coming to Oakland at all. Just let the dream die away. We got hurt ass Grads, soft spoken JC or Kyle Fuggin Boller under center……god help us……lol no he wont
October 19th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
DMAC……please get healthy soon. Your versatility is badly needed for this lame ass offense constructed by d*ckface Hue Crapson
October 19th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Vick not gonna change a damn thing IMO…….team got issues….Tackles on both lines suck…..WRs just not getting it done the safety combo is trash and the coaches……well need i say more?
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Vick will make a difference. You are correct that we have tackle problems on both sides of the LOS. Veldheer & BCampbell will come around. We need to draft Mike Pouncey to replace Satele. Loper or BCampbell should immediately replace Carlisle. An O-line of Veldheer/BCampbell, Gallery, Pouncey, Loper & Veldheer/BCampbell would be a good start on the offense. Our WR’s just need experience & seasoning. I’ll give DHB one more year and I’ve already written off Schilins. I want to see more of NMiller. Mike Vick is mobile enough to survive with our current line and with the above proposed changes and BUSH & DMac i the baxckfield, we’d be more than competitive offensively.
On defense we need 1-2 new DT’s Move Seymour to DE to pair up with ShoNasty. The LB’s would be another year older and more experienced playing with each other (not that way). As far as CB’s go I think would could move Huff to CB and pair him up with WMcFadden. At Safety I’d look at Stevie Brown & Branch/Mitchell.
That would be a start and Mike Vick could get us to the next level.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Bauce,
You gotta drop Cody man. That dude hasnt done anything in the nfl. here are his production so far from nfl.
Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2010 Baltimore Ravens 3 0 0 — – — – — – — 0.0 — – –
October 19th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Deadline passed. We are what we thought we were!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
how far will we go in the playoffs?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Bauce,
You gotta drop Cody man. That dude hasnt done anything in the nfl. here are his production so far from nfl.
Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2010 Baltimore Ravens 3 0 0 — – — – — – — 0.0 — – –
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He is a backup on a talented defense……trust me he will get his turn and Bmore loves him believe that
He is a better run stuffer than Kelly and Seymour for damns ure and would have not cost us as much by far
October 19th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Dakota Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Deadline passed. We are what we thought we were!
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LOL come on you guys really thought we were gonna make a trade?………We can win….and we will win….I have unshakeable confidence that the will to win burns in this organization lol
October 19th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
WE
WILL
WIN!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Fat Kidd Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
how far will we go in the playoffs?
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I dunno….it depends on the gas mileage or how much flights cost because i highly doubt we will be playing in January
October 19th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Our Oline looked good last game, this is the NFL and DE’s are going to get to the qb. We’ve rushed the ball well except for the San Fran game when the world knew when we would run. Our D is headed by a rookie MLB and young DE’s and and an SLB and WLB learning the position. With a little confidence in the O our D is good enough. The KR and PR game has finally shown life and is catching up with the rest of the special teams. DHB and Murphy show progress when Grads is playing. I know were down but we actually are good enough to win this division is Gradkowski can stay healthy and if Hue Jackson and Tom Cable get their heads out of their asses!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
B take the time for once and look at the best defenses vs the run and tell me how many have a fat slob like Cody?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
we gave up 3 runs worth talking about, out of maybe 30 now imo that is discipline not the lack of a nt.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
A.D. FOOTBALL, INC. shall live on FOREVER! I am sure Al has established a trust that dictates the 25 drafts after his death as well as qualities he looks for in coaches, players, and executive….and I am sure Herrera, Taylor and Trask will follow those dictates to the T baby!
AL DAVIS SHALL CONTROL US FOREVER!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Raider roster
3 D tackles
4 D ends
8 linebackers ( two rookies)
Minus 1 injured tackle
Minus 2 injured linebackers
Its easy to understand this defense when you look at the way the players are used and the injuries.
3 tackels
2 ends
2 hybrid out side linebackers
3 linebackers
2 special teams line backers
4/3 D?
Put this all together and you have the worst d in the league.
To watch these games and exptect a win is retarded.
I watch and expect a loss.
And there is nothing to cheer about the day after a win.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
426.priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
B take the time for once and look at the best defenses vs the run and tell me how many have a fat slob like Cody?
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Do those other teams all run a 4-3 man to man D? We need a fat slob in this system. It is no coincidence that the last time we were any good against the run we had fat slob Adams at NT.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
B take the time for once and look at the best defenses vs the run and tell me how many have a fat slob like Cody?
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Pitt best team and best defense in the league….damn the numbers that team gets it done………Who is a fat slob? Hampton?
Minny also has a fat slob named Pat Williams
KC has a fat slob in the middle…….I can keep going on and on man….last time we had a good run defense werent two fat slobs in the middle? Thanks
BHP you need a big body in the middle to occupy two blockers……simple football not hard……you were talking that athletic lineman BS and that wont win ya shhhht in January
October 19th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
anyways im out……back to the Boiler Room……see ya
October 19th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Dallas is #2 in defense their NT is 315 SF has a great run defense their NT is 315 tops. The Giants are a 4/3 no one over 310 the Steelers NT 315. The only one with a huge guy is Baltimore with Ngata. Playing run defense is gap control and discipline.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Hey fellas. Not expecting much out of Boller, I think his stats will mirror what JC did at SF. He has never had success, he is not a high energy leader type, what he’s got going is he’s tall and was a high draft pick.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
The Pat’s have Wilfork at 350 and they are average vs the run.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
KC sucks vs the run. Minn has struggled lately they used to be great but it takes a an entire defense to stop the run………..period
October 19th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Mr Davis didnt get his newspaper!!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
433.priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Dallas is #2 in defense their NT is 315 SF has a great run defense their NT is 315 tops. The Giants are a 4/3 no one over 310 the Steelers NT 315. The only one with a huge guy is Baltimore with Ngata. Playing run defense is gap control and discipline.
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Hampton is listed at 325 and I am sure they were being kind….besides he is only 6′1″
Kelly Greg is Baltimore’s NT, not Ngata…
besides, why are you comparing 3-4 teams with us?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Boller, who played for the Bears from 1999 through 2002, did a pretty good job in the preseason. He finished 26-for-43 for 360 yards, with two touchdowns and no interceptions for a 102.9 passer rating.
Boller, 29, also knows offensive coordinator Hue Jackson well. The two spent a year together in Baltimore, and Jackson urged the Raiders to sign Boller.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/18/SP801FUAR9.DTL#ixzz12q8SlQwk
Don’t wanna jinx this guy but this guy will be easy to get behind if he can win the Denver game for us. Former Cal Bear, former first round draft pick considered a bust, big arm. Let’s go BOLLER!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I subscrive to having a big NT like Pitt and Baltimore or having an 8 or 9 player deep Dline rotation like NYGmen. We have light 6 or 7 available Dlinemen and most dont break 290.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
is tom cable headset plugged in?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Lighter Dlinemen cant hold their assignments with heavy Olinemen all game without a good rotation. Lighter Dlinemen also get weaker as the season progresses. I would love to have 8 or 9 real D linemen to rotate.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
I hope Boller pulls a Plunkett and is a late bloomer. Evidence suggests he is just another bust. I really hope he shuts me up and plays awesome vs Denver, but I am expecting a JC @ SF performance from Boller… Armstrength? Please Al.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Al Davis gets business advice from is pet cat.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Whew, it appears Southwick made it past the trade deadline…
October 19th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Because we weren’t comparing 3/4’s and 4/3’s we were just talking great defenses…….period
October 19th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
PGutierrezCSN fair question @AugieAguilar how can trent edwards who’s been w/his team 8 days, be able to complete passes to his WR’s, yet campbell can’t?
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Say bye bye to another JaPuke myth.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
We did line up in the 3-4 on more than a few snaps, and we got smoked, when we did.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Tuesday, October 19, 2010By The Numbers: Mile-High Matchup
at 8:26 AM
Defense:
YPG Allowed
Broncos: 337.5 (19)
Raiders: 346.3 (22)
YPP Allowed
Broncos: 5.6 (22)
Raiders: 5.7 (24)
Total Points Allowed
Broncos: 140 (27)
Raiders 151 (29)
Sacks
Broncos: 10 (13)
Raiders: 7 (27)
Turnovers
Broncos: 5 INT, 4 Fumbles,
Raiders: 2 INT, 6 Fumbles, 2 Blocks, 1 TD, 1 Safety
Offense
YPG
Broncos: 378.3 (6)
Raiders: 312.5 (21)
YPP
Broncos: 5.5 (10)
Raiders: 4.7 (29)
Total Points
Broncos:124 (13)
Raiders: 120 (14)
Sacks Allowed:
Broncos: 13 (20)
Raiders: 18 (28)
QB Hits
Broncos: 26 (13)
Raiders: 28 (19)
Turnovers
Broncos: 3 INT, 5 Fumbles
Raiders: 8 INT, 2 Fumbles
Special Teams
Field Goals
Broncos: 11 of 12 (92%) (7)
Raiders: 14 of 19 (74%) (1)
Punting Avg
Broncos: 45.2 (7)
Raiders: 50.1 (1)
Punting Net
Broncos: 37.1 (21)
Raiders: 45.6 (1)
Kick Return
Broncos: 27.1 (8)
Raiders: 20.1 (28)
Punt Return
Broncos: 10.1 (10)
Raiders: 9.4 (15)
Overall:
Turnover Ratio
Broncos: -8/+9 = +1 (11)
Raiders: -10/+8 = -2 (19)
Net Points
Broncos: -16
Raiders: -31
Broncos: 1-2 at home
Raiders: 0-3 on the road
October 19th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
We got smoked trying to blitz a few times too.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
[Comment From AKA Jim Plunkett]
Jerry. Al Davis once again spoke very prematurely and crowned a QB (Jason Campbell) as the next Jim Plunkett. I never saw anything in Campbell’s playing abilities this year or past years that suggest this. Any thoughts why he once again putt his foot in his mouth/
12:50
jerrymac: It’s a free country, he’s entitlled to put his foot in his mouth any time he chooses.
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Wow Jerry, how gutless.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
[Comment From randy from ohio]
hi jerry, why do you think the raiders are the most undiciplined team in the nfl. seem to always be jumping into the neutral zone or in wrong position on defence.
12:39
jerrymac: The penalty count says yes.
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Another weaselly dodge.
October 19th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
[Comment From bigprimo]
Why are you defending Al Davis he is the scum of the earth? Don’t want to lose your Raider privileges?
12:56
jerrymac: The scum of the earth? You mean like a mass murderer or child molester? Get a life.
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Jerry you continually dodge the topic. He is the freaking GM, in case you didn’t know.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Mr. Davis has over fed his team ($$$). They are not hungry. Meanwhile, KC, lowest payroll, has some hunger.
I just don’t see the hunger with these guys. I wish I could, but can’t. Grads, Z.miller, maybe Boeller are hungry. I believe M.Bush has a hunger, but when SF knew how predictable Oakland was, Mr. Bush didn’t have a chance.
Hire a professional coach, pay the big bucks. Then you can expect some accountablility from the coaches. How can you hold Cable responsible? He may be the coach, but come on, what do you expect. This coming from a Cable supporter.
Why is Jerry so sure Gruden will never come back?
October 19th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
—”Texans waived LB David Nixon. Nixon did have six tackles as the weakside linebacker in the second half against the Chiefs with DeMeco Ryans (Achilles’) out, but he’s been inactive in three games so far. The Texans expect to get Darryl Sharpton, Xavier Adibi, and Kevin Bentley back healthy during the bye”—
wasnt he ours during pre-season, and wasnt he quite good? or at least ok
—”Texans released OT Ephraim Salaam. Salaam was signed for depth when LT Duane Brown was lost to a four-game suspension. With Brown returning after the bye, Salaam is no longer needed”—
I remember him as good, kick Langston out of town and sign him, btw, is that a cool name or what?
October 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Fat kid,
wow man thanks for the stats. Looks pretty even.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Think about it: If Grads, Schilens, McFadden and Bush can all get and stay healthy for the rest of the season we could make some noise yet. Think about Schilens and Murphy at WR with a sprinkling of DHB. Miller at TE. McFadden and Bush running and catching out of the backfield. And Grads making good, quick decisions, getting the ball downfield and keeping plays alive when things break down.
Even with a sub-par o-line, that’s an offense that could go from 24 ppg with Grads to 30 ppg.
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If that happens, i see us maybe going 8-8..we have a shot still
October 19th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Think about it: If Grads, Schilens, McFadden and Bush can all get and stay healthy for the rest of the season we could make some noise yet. Think about Schilens and Murphy at WR with a sprinkling of DHB. Miller at TE. McFadden and Bush running and catching out of the backfield. And Grads making good, quick decisions, getting the ball downfield and keeping plays alive when things break down.
Even with a sub-par o-line, that’s an offense that could go from 24 ppg with Grads to 30 ppg.
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That’s why this team frustrates me!
on paper they look tough
October 19th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
# shaider2010 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Raider roster
3 D tackles
4 D ends
8 linebackers ( two rookies)
Minus 1 injured tackle
Minus 2 injured linebackers
Its easy to understand this defense when you look at the way the players are used and the injuries.
3 tackels
2 ends
2 hybrid out side linebackers
3 linebackers
2 special teams line backers
4/3 D?
Put this all together and you have the worst d in the league.
To watch these games and exptect a win is retarded.
I watch and expect a loss.
And there is nothing to cheer about the day after a win.
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problem is, I bet Al says its a brilliant defense and the smartest usage of personnel ever…
October 19th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/business/global/20rare.html?_r=1&hp
Things are about to get real. We need to bomb China now before it’s too late.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
LMN
How’s the weather up there, getting darker?
October 19th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Jmack and Chris,
The yoyo’s on this blog could careless about 24 points let alone 30. They only care about a QB with a rocket arm to save us man.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Al needs too throw more money around as a stimulus to get the team going.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
A torn muniscus? That would explain it. Oh well shut it down bra, and get well soon.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Fat Kidd, the Raiders need a stimulus package. Maybe Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft can lend Al some money.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
…some money and a clue.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
434-another clueless comment.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Why are thre so many Raider haters on this board? Why did any one think this team was playoff ready? There is only one super bowl winner per year, that means for all intents and purposes all other teams are in a similar condition. Losers. Unless you are satisfied being an also ran, a stunt double, or ms congeniality, why get so bent out of shape? This team has good young peices but we dont have a head coach, and we stink on the line of scrimage, and at safety. This is a process. Complaining about wish list trades that didnt happen is a waste of energy. No matter who we would have brought in this team isnt going any where this year. Like I said in the off season, maybe 6 wins.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Why are thre so many Raider haters on this board? Why did any one think this team was playoff ready? There is only one super bowl winner per year, that means for all intents and purposes all other teams are in a similar condition. Losers.
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Another Davis worshipper who couldn’t care less about losing. Only spinning how “fun” losing is.
Like Norco Bob, who cares about losing, get over it. Get high & drunk, ok? Partey!
October 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Another Davis worshipper, HazeDaze “Great day to be a Raider fan, eh?”
October 19th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
KoolKell Says
Another Davis worshipper who couldn’t care less about losing. Only spinning how “fun” losing is.
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Who said losing is fun? Stop with your anti raider diatribes…they are boring
October 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1, you say this is a process. This process should have began 6 years ago. You need to face the facts, the Raiders are now on a level with the Detroit Lions. This team is fundamentally broken, there is no rebuilding process under current management.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
LMN
How’s the weather up there, getting darker?
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yeah its pretty dark around 20:00…
October 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Lefty,
When did I say an injured QB should be starting for us?
All things being equal, Gardowski should start.
I shouldn’t have to clarify that.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
So we couldn’t parlay Michelle Huff into a 1st rd pick coming off her player of the week honors?
DAMMMMM
October 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
if the Raiders start winning…what will my crutch for alcoholism be??
October 19th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Any prediction for DHB coming off his stellar 3 catch performance?
Does he finally get in the end zone this weekend?
October 19th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
can al davis be impeached?
October 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Mistic1, you say this is a process. This process should have began 6 years ago. You need to face the facts, the Raiders are now on a level with the Detroit Lions. This team is fundamentally broken, there is no rebuilding process under current management.
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Face facts? The fact is we have been set back. When you miss on the number one pick it wil hurt you, and we are hurting.
Now we have to shift gears and try to reload. We have some quality peices to build around, it is going to take a little patience.
By the way we could never be the lions or any other loser franchise..our 3 trophies seperate us from the futilty of teams that have never been to the mountain top. Like it or not.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
We all knew DHB was the wrong draft pick.
October 19th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Campbell will be fine if we can just get a better line and some receivers. Yeah, he played a bad game, and we may have won if Grads had started, but Campbell isn’t the problem. Give him some weapons and protection and JC could take us to the playoffs
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! Wait a minute, let me catch my breath. Hysterical. JC will sooner take us all to hell than to the playoffs. Please review those stats once more.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Mind I remind you all, Huff won us the Chargers game.. and he has always played well against Antonio Gates…
October 19th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Huff doesnt tackle very well. He is constantly getting beat deep, he is a laibilty in center field. The free safety in our defense is similar to the cover two in taht he should not let anyone get deeper than he is. Huff doesnt do this, and is routinely late helping the corners and taking away the inside. We cant trade him, he has no value.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Tyvon Branch is the free safety, not Huff.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Mistic1…
true, mostly I blame the coaches, but he have covered Gates well, and if it wasnt for him, we hadn’t won the Chargers game..
you gotta admit that..
October 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
The Giants are two wins away from the wrolrd series, my dream is 50% done 2 more wins and the Rangers knoack out the Yanks we’ll be favorites. I don’t think the Rangers can beat ‘em.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Tyvon Branch is the free safety, not Huff.
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You spend so much time hating the raiders that you have lost track. Huff has been playing the free safety spot almost since the day he arrived here. Huff doesnt tackle well enough to play strong, branch doesnt have the coverage skill to play free.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Boller in Baltimore had worse receivers then the Raiders have now. Difference between Boller and Campbell is he’ll throw the ball down the field, and won’t be so timid. The receivers were open against SF, and he just won’t take a chance. Grads will show flashes, get everyone’s hopes up, then get hurt. As I said last week, start who you start, fg or stalled drive change qb’s. As soon as they settled for the two fgs early in SF, JC should of been pulled.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Jmack and Chris,
The yoyo’s on this blog could careless about 24 points let alone 30. They only care about a QB with a rocket arm to save us man.
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Then they are morons, campbell might as well not even have a strong arm cuz he cant use it, hes a nothing. Gradkoski throws the ball with more accuracy and velocity and he supposidly doesnt have a strong arm
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Koolkell: Huff is the FS bro
October 19th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
474-?,please clarify.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
If im not mistaken Campbell went deep twice on sunday, once from our own goal line. He missed but he did take shots.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Mistic, us fans have been singing your song for too long now. No one but Raider fans cares about the three Super Bowls, that is ancient history. The Raiders are the joke of the league because of Al Davis. I think the Lions get more respect than us now.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Mystic1 that wasn’t Huuf’s fault on that Crabtree TD it was CJ who was late Tyvon was supposed to get deep help from CJ and he never got there. If CJ plays the flight of the ball instead the man he picks that off. But CJ seems to get nervous when the ball is in the air. Routt and Nnamdi were very solid and the safeties played well until the 4th qrtr.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Boller and Grads.
No more Campbells chicken soup.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
288.lefty12 Says:
October 18th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
The guy has a separated shoulder on his throwing arm and you think he should be playing?In AIG’s defense,it is statements like this that gets him going.
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I assumed you were posting this to me last night.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
The Giants are two wins away from the wrolrd series, my dream is 50% done 2 more wins and the Rangers knoack out the Yanks we’ll be favorites. I don’t think the Rangers can beat ‘em.
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I hear you Priest!
The hard part is getting by the Phillies.
I hope it’s the Yankees and I think we can beat them!
Go Giants!
October 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Michael Huff is the Strong Safety who covers the T.E., C’mon guys. Jeez.
Tyvon Branch is the Free.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Mistic, us fans have been singing your song for too long now. No one but Raider fans cares about the three Super Bowls, that is ancient history. The Raiders are the joke of the league because of Al Davis. I think the Lions get more respect than us now.
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We have struggled since the last super bowl run, no doubt about that. But we can never be compared to any team that havnt matched what we have accomplished historically.
As far as respect, who cares. Unless you win the big game, you are an understudy, a fill in, a substitute teacher. Super bowl or nothing, that is oakland, that is the real world.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
No I wasn’t.I believe I was talking to Debo.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Campbell did take two shots, i personaly dont even know why Davis got him, hes a small ball QB AT BEST…i personally thought if we threw more short passes and tried getting him into a rhythem he would have done better, but handing the ball off twice then expecting 3 and 8’s to be converted is DUMB, JACKSON AND CABLE GOT EGOTISTICAL and wanted to run down the niners throats THATS WHTA LOST THE GAME!! WHY NOT JUST RUN THE SAME GAMEPLAN WE HAVE BEEN WHICH HAS BEEN FINE..LET THE QB GET A RYTHEM..THEN THE RUN WILL OPEN..9ERS HAVE STRUGGLED AGAINST THE RUN THIS YEAR but what makes jackson think our front 5 is better then their front seven???they are not, jackson and cables ego lost us the game..playcalling was tom walsh esque, at best.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Campbell was late with the football all day long JLH was great on those out routes but he was always late with the ball. If he would just set and throw and not stare at the WR he’d have cooked the 49ers.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Go Phillies;Go Rangers
October 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
My bad then Lefty
October 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
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You spend so much time hating the raiders that you have lost track. Huff has been playing the free safety spot almost since the day he arrived here. Huff doesnt tackle well enough to play strong, branch doesnt have the coverage skill to play free.
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You spend so much time in here gobbling up Al Davis’ turds,
Michael Huff is the Strong Safety who covers the T.E., C’mon guys. Jeez.
Tyvon Branch is the Free.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
The 2nd i saw what we were trying to do i knew we would lose, trying to hold a 6-3 lead, stupid stupid stupid..
October 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
hahahah Koolkell please tell me ur kidding, just take back what you said…MHUFF24 is the guy playing centerfield, BRANCH33 is in the box or covering a slot or TE..pleeeeze
October 19th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Mistic, us fans have been singing your song for too long now. No one but Raider fans cares about the three Super Bowls, that is ancient history. The Raiders are the joke of the league because of Al Davis. I think the Lions get more respect than us now.
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It was branch that blew the coverage on craptree’s td, that does not absolve huff of his own mistakes. He is always late. When was the last time we saw huff come from center field close down over the top and take the ball away on a deep pass, or even just break up a pass.
That is the one of the main responsablities.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Look at the teams depth chart-Huff=FS;Branch=SS.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Kell, I hate to burst your bubble, but Huff is listed as the FS on the Raiders’ depth chart. He may cover the tight end, but he is the FS.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Kell, http://www.raiders.com/team/depth-chart.html
October 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The staff got cocky, i dont blame the players for that loss, CAMPBELL did play bad no doubt, he played scared and late…but our gameplan lost us the game, we wanted to prove sumthing to them, we went in with the mentality the game would be a close grity headknocker, and we PUT OURSELVES IN THAT MINDSET, WE PLAYED THEIR GAME FELLAS!!!RIGHT INTO THEIR GAME!!!!RUNNIN THE SAME STRETCH PLAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEN A PLAY ACTION!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Sorry. Michael Huff is listed at FS. When did that happen? he was playing the TE’s
October 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
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You spend so much time hating the raiders that you have lost track. Huff has been playing the free safety spot almost since the day he arrived here. Huff doesnt tackle well enough to play strong, branch doesnt have the coverage skill to play free.
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You spend so much time in here gobbling up Al Davis’ turds,
Michael Huff is the Strong Safety who covers the T.E., C’mon guys. Jeez.
Tyvon Branch is the Free.
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This is proof that I shouldnt waste any time on you. Do yourself a favor, study up and have an informed opinion. Maybe then you would be worht the space you take up on this blog. Branch…free safety!?!?!?!
laughable
October 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Mistic, I agree. Kell is laughable, just like your belief that the Raiders are in a rebuilding process.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
sometimes the 2 positions are easily mistakable its not that big of a deal, the way we play, on certain looks branch my play FS somtimes, MISTIC blowing it out of proportion like he does mostly everything..
October 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
*mistaken
October 19th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Huff has always played Gates well. He’s listed at FS this year. SS last year?
October 19th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The staff got cocky, i dont blame the players for that loss, CAMPBELL did play bad no doubt, he played scared and late…but our gameplan lost us the game, we wanted to prove sumthing to them, we went in with the mentality the game would be a close grity headknocker, and we PUT OURSELVES IN THAT MINDSET, WE PLAYED THEIR GAME FELLAS!!!RIGHT INTO THEIR GAME!!!!RUNNIN THE SAME STRETCH PLAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEN A PLAY ACTION!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!
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Good plan, we killed sd on the ground and no one thought the 9rs run defense would play the way they did. Wet field lends it self to pounding it in the run game, wear the 9rs down and put it away late. The two main problems with the plan.
1.) our o-line was dominated by the 9r front seven. satele, carlisle, henderson got zero push.
2.) We didnt possess the ball enough to tire them out. In fact it was the niners that beat us at our own game. We are the ones that fatigued and had major breakdowns on defense.
Conservative yes, unheard of not really.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Crazy to spend all that money on QB’s, RB’s, WR’s DB’s when the O-line is built from scrubs………doesn’t make sense.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Mistic, I agree. Kell is laughable, just like your belief that the Raiders are in a rebuilding process.
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When you dump your number one draft choice qb, all of your starting linebackers,bring in a new oc, with no shot of reaching lombardi’s prize, it is a reloading process. When you are drafted rooks for the d-line, and line backer, and you are giving significant time to second year guys at key positions to develop them, it is commonly called rebuilding.
What is your problem with that statement?
October 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Mistic
Rebuilding????????? for 7 years?????????
October 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Rebuilding????
40 million for a QB 07′
35 million for a RB 08′
28 million for a WR 09′
Scrubs on the O-line???? Really?
October 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Rebuilding????????? for 7 years?????????
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Na,
It’s more like remodeling.
Crazy old guy keeps changing Contractors, and the project looks like a hodgepodge of “ideas”
The place never really gets finished, just in a constant state of “Construction”
October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
MY MAIN POINTS OF THE NIGHT:
1. F/S OR S/S..DOESNT MATTER, HES AN ATHLETE, NOT A FOOTBALL PLAYER, IM REALLY GETTING SICK OF LOOKING AT HIM AFTER HE BLOWS A PLAY..BRANCH33 THAT IS.
2. OUR STAFF/GAMPLAN LOST US THE GAME:PLAYED TO ALL OF THERE STRENGTHS, PLAYING A 0-5 TEAM AND WE HAND THEM THE EASIEST POSSIBLE OFFENSE TO HANDLE..GIVES VANILLA A NEW MEANING..
3. We need GRADS back, to all you haters/idiots, no im not calling him JOE MONTANA but right not he gives us a better chance to win, IM NOT COMPLETELY DONE ON CAMPBELL THOUGH, JACKSON should have tried getting him into more of a rhythem but our gameplan didnt allow it
4. Next time grads plays i guarentee playcalling will be different, passing more trying to get rhythem.
5. Defense played good enough for me lol, dont give a rats A$$ about the big plays, that game was winnable down to our last offensive possesion, and our defense kept it that way.
6. If we put up 20 pts we win bottom line, the run run run run…play action absolutely killed me boys, i thougth JACKSON was supposed to be inovative!! A NEW LOOK!! our offense looked like BEDnBREAKFAST all over again, soooooo bad guys!! does anyone else see that!!???
7. Mistic, in order to dominate a team on the ground you gotta have a better line then theres..9ers have a very talented front 7, they killed us, it was unheard of to do that, when you face a team looking for a win, you dont play down to them(run the ball, win late like you said) you go after them,(where were the quick short flat routs to Miller??Swing to bush?Screen to reece or Bush? NO WHERE!! that gameplane was far more ocnservative then the one against SD..horrible plan, ur right about one thing we played right into their palm..gave them a chance to win the second we decided we wanted to play conservative and sit on a lead…dumb plan
October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Mistic
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
Rebuilding, Really?
October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Mistic
Rebuilding????????? for 7 years?????????
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It isnt like we havent tried, it just hasnt worked.
Some times its like that. Ask the cowboys. What about the gap between unitas and manning. Or bart star and Favre ( the most over rated player in nfl history).
In the grand scheme of things 7 years is painfull but not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
No more Campbells chicken soup.
That’s the new moniker, Campbells Chicken Soup!
October 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
In the grand scheme of things 7 years is painfull but not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
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Mistic, these numbers are a gawdarned NFL Record. Hello???
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
October 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Mistic
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
Rebuilding, Really?
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you have to break out of the microwave instant gratification mentality.
03 we thought we had a superbowl ready team( maybe should have blown it up) but we were returning the leauge mvp and a very good team. The dumbest team in america imploded.
We have been starting over almost every year since. The old man tries, it just hasnt worked….recently.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Rebuilding????????? for 7 years?????????
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Na,
It’s more like remodeling.
Crazy old guy keeps changing Contractors, and the project looks like a hodgepodge of “ideas”
The place never really gets finished, just in a constant state of “Construction”
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We are in a constant state of flux. i agree with this comment, we aquire athletes and talent at skill positions and switch coordinators that all share the basic philosphy, it is a hodgepog…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
We are in a constant state of flux. i agree with this comment, we aquire athletes and talent at skill positions and switch coordinators that all share the basic philosphy, it is a hodgepog…
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The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
It sure would be nice to have a head coach with “bonafides”
Bill Cowher, are you listening?
Just hire a Proven, Winning Coach.
Pay Him.
Then let him do it HIS way.
This is not rocket science.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Cristine O’Donnell never heard of the seperation of church & state: What amendment was that again? Ans 1st.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwSljJAzqg
October 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Raider Ray Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Mistic, I agree. Kell is laughable, just like your belief that the Raiders are in a rebuilding process.
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When you dump your number one draft choice qb, all of your starting linebackers,bring in a new oc, with no shot of reaching lombardi’s prize, it is a reloading process. When you are drafted rooks for the d-line, and line backer, and you are giving significant time to second year guys at key positions to develop them, it is commonly called rebuilding.
What is your problem with that statement?
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My problem with that statement is that Al Davis does not believe in rebuilding. And there is no rebuilding because you can’t build a building without a solid foundation. Besides, if Davis was rebuilding, don’t you think he would have drafted another QB.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Our offense is a bunch of young talent MISTIC..not the kind of team that you can run the ball alot and expect success in the passing game when you dont pass enough, our recievers need short touches early, our qb’s need short to intermediate completions early, our O-line needs to have a play called that gets rid of the ball early…WE ARE NOT A TEAM THAT IS TALENTED ENUOGH(NOT YET) OR SAVVY ENUGH YET TO EXPECT TO PLAY RUN RUN PA, WE NEED RYTHEMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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Do these freaking numbers look successful?
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
October 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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Because….your scouts know exactly what to look for in personell.
This makes for a more efficient and accurate assement of players.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Lighter Dlinemen cant hold their assignments with heavy Olinemen all game without a good rotation. Lighter Dlinemen also get weaker as the season progresses. I would love to have 8 or 9 real D linemen to rotate.
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Thats why the Steelers and Ravens are always strong on the D-Line.
They draft big strong guys who are versatile and athletic.
The Raider only draft guys that are athletic and can run a fast straight line 40.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
WE BEAT SD BECAUSE ON THOUGHS LONG DRIVES CAMPBELL HAD, WE HAD RYYYTHHHEEEMMMMMM, usually jackson calls that kind of game to, gets everyone involved early on..then the run works, n the deep ball maybe, but that gamplan on sunday gave us no shot…played down, campbell is a rhythem QB, WE ALL HAVE SAID THAT, IF YOU WANA GIVE US A CHANCE TO WIN, GET RYHTEM…I DONT KNOW IF YUO ARE GETTING THE THEME OF MY POSTS…RRYYTHHEEMMMMMMM
October 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
El Tato Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I dont see Al trading Asomugha.
I can only see us trading Huff, sice he is in his last year, and was AFC Defensive PLayer of the Week las week, maybe someone bites. Also we could see what Mitchell has to offer, and Eugene or maybe Stevie Brown could do the same he does.
Also THoward could be traded. He can be valuable in a Cover-2 defense like the ones TB or Indy uses.
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Yeah, they need to trade Huff for an O-Linemen or a 3rd round pick and T Howard for at least a 4th rounder.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
El Tato Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I dont see Al trading Asomugha.
I can only see us trading Huff, sice he is in his last year, and was AFC Defensive PLayer of the Week las week, maybe someone bites. Also we could see what Mitchell has to offer, and Eugene or maybe Stevie Brown could do the same he does.
Also THoward could be traded. He can be valuable in a Cover-2 defense like the ones TB or Indy uses.
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Yeah, they need to trade Huff for an O-Linemen or a 3rd round pick and T Howard for at least a 4th rounder!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
We are in a constant state of flux. i agree with this comment, we aquire athletes and talent at skill positions and switch coordinators that all share the basic philosphy, it is a hodgepog…
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The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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STEELERS PASS GAME IS MORE LIKE A SPREAD EM OUT TYPE DEAL…AND THEY HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO IT…BIG BEN IS BETTER THEN ANY QB WE HAVE HAD FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS, BUT WE DONT HAVE A BIG BEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE HAVE GRADS AND JC!!!!!DO YOU GET THAT????
October 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
IslandRaider Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 12:04 am
“He offers hope, particularly for a team that is starving for leadership and direction, and that’s what jumps out at me when I look at Bruce Gradkowski and what he’s done the last three or four weeks,” Gannon said.
………..
Starving for leadership and direction. What key words.
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Once again…Gannon is right!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
The only reason Gannon likes Grads is because he is Gannon Lite.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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The Raiders have been to the playoffs 6 times in the last 21 years since Free Agency
The Steelers have been to the playoffs 16 times in the same period with 2 SB championships.
How dare you compare the Raiders to the Steelers.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Our offense is a bunch of young talent MISTIC..not the kind of team that you can run the ball alot and expect success in the passing game when you dont pass enough, our recievers need short touches early, our qb’s need short to intermediate completions early, our O-line needs to have a play called that gets rid of the ball early…WE ARE NOT A TEAM THAT IS TALENTED ENUOGH(NOT YET) OR SAVVY ENUGH YET TO EXPECT TO PLAY RUN RUN PA, WE NEED RYTHEMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
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You are cracking me up bra. I did not dis agree, I would like to see more like we saw on the first two drives sunday.
But we did win two games by running the ball, the 9rs have not shown this year to be drop dead run stoppers. I can see why they went with the plan. Should they have changed up when it wasnt working? Maybe, difficult to assess becuase our defense couldnt get off the field. Who knows what more possesions would have done for us.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I’m going to quote one of the guys I was watching the game with on Sunday.
Early 4th. qtr. He’s had a few rum & cokes: “They need to get Boiler in there.”
GET BOILER IN THERE!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Mystic1 you have to forgive KooKoo you see he still thinks we run 10 yard comebacks. He thinks Al Davis is still the HC and he thinks Freddie B is still catching passes. Most flks have a hard time figuring him out but it’s simple he has ALZ. So don’t take it personally. Huff is the FS Tyvon is the SS and eveyrone knows it except KooKoo.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
MISTIC TELL ME THIS….SERIOUSLY
When was the last time that gameplan was a winner for us???please tell me brother???it was 1984 when we won the superbowl, the gannon years we had a pass balanced west coast rythem pasing game with a bunch of dinkers and dunkers and the occastional seam or post route(never to deep either may i ad)…
The steelers of late are ran well on offense cuz they have BIG BEN, he makes plays time after time, breaking tackles making perfect throws, we obviously dont have that dude!! we just dont!! why use a system like that when we dont have the gusy to do it???? that system is designed for a team that is GREAT!! future HOF QB, FUTURE HOF WR(WARD), and a REDICULOUS DEFENSE TO BAIL THEM OUT, WE DONT HAVE ANY OF THAT!!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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The Raiders have been to the playoffs 6 times in the last 21 years since Free Agency
The Steelers have been to the playoffs 16 times in the same period with 2 SB championships.
How dare you compare the Oakland Raiders to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Or the Rooney family to Al Davis
October 19th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I’m going to quote one of the guys I was watching the game with on Sunday.
Early 4th. qtr. He’s had a few rum & cokes: “They need to get Boiler in there.”
GET BOILER IN THERE!
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LOL!
I aint gonna say what my friend was saying after some jack daniels and jack and coke.
It was all jibberish…we stopped watching when there was 5 minutes left..we call knew Campbell wasn’t going to do crap. Boller should have been thrown in there in the 2nd half.
One of my friends past right outside by the BBQ in the rain in the chair with 5 minutes left in the game!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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Do these freaking numbers look successful?
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
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Again this is only part of the picture, no matter how much you hate the raiders you cant erase the fact that we have played in 5 superbowls (2002 is not that long ago) and won 3. So yes Davis sticks to his philosophy because he has won with it. Im fine with that. i would rather have a guy that is steadfast in his conviction than a wishy washy, fly by night owner that cant make up his mind.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
NOT TRYING TO DISAGREE WITH HATE BROTHER…we are all bros here, all im saying is, the times we have been succesful this year is with a good mix of run and pass, balance and rythem, not CLASSIC NFC EAST FOOTBALL(ground and pound)..we are not built for that and i think thats clear..we are a short pass rythem team, short to miller, short to bush, short to reece, run, short to miller, run, PA max protect to murphy for a medium gain…. NOT RUN RUN PA, RUN RUN PA, RUN RUN PA, when you do that you do what we did sunday, five 3 and outs in a row and 50yds passing,,,
October 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
It was all jibberish…we stopped watching when there was 5 minutes left..we call knew Campbell wasn’t going to do crap. Boller should have been thrown in there in the 2nd half.
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LOL…I stopped watching with 7 minutes left for the same reason.
Fark.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
thats a funny link kell on o duh nell…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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The Raiders have been to the playoffs 6 times in the last 21 years since Free Agency
The Steelers have been to the playoffs 16 times in the same period with 2 SB championships.
How dare you compare the Oakland Raiders to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Or the Rooney family to Al Davis
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thanks man, truth is no matter what kind of personel we have, davis will make sure our philosphy is HIS PHILOSPHY (power running and vertical passing)..which i like also, but do it in a different way(the way HJACK was doing it b4 the niner game)…steelers also havent consistantly been ground and pound PLAY ACTION TEAM..there have been years they spread it out 5 wide and play for completions…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
MISTIC TELL ME THIS….SERIOUSLY
When was the last time that gameplan was a winner for us???please tell me brother???it was 1984 when we won the superbowl, the gannon years we had a pass balanced west coast rythem pasing game with a bunch of dinkers and dunkers and the occastional seam or post route(never to deep either may i ad)…
The steelers of late are ran well on offense cuz they have BIG BEN, he makes plays time after time, breaking tackles making perfect throws, we obviously dont have that dude!! we just dont!! why use a system like that when we dont have the gusy to do it???? that system is designed for a team that is GREAT!! future HOF QB, FUTURE HOF WR(WARD), and a REDICULOUS DEFENSE TO BAIL THEM OUT, WE DONT HAVE ANY OF THAT!!
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Davis has what he likes, but he is not as rigid as you make him out to be.
We have had west coast offense, we have had vertical coryel/gilman offense.
We have had 4-3, we have had 3-4.
Bottom line Davis believs in great players, schemes, and chemistry are over rated.
Please dont try to deny davis credit for 2002. davis signs all of the checks, and signs of on all moves, if it was in silver and black, it wasnt without the blessing of old man al.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
We are in a constant state of flux. i agree with this comment, we aquire athletes and talent at skill positions and switch coordinators that all share the basic philosphy, it is a hodgepog…
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The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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yeah problem is that their ideology works in this day and age, and they let their coach make decisions, and their management staff is professional…
our ideology is outdated, we dont let our coach do the shopping and there isnt a professional management to support the coach..
The coach here is all alone, on top of that, we always get unproven coaches…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Plus the Steelers have had 4 Head Coaches since 1989.
The Raiders have had 4 Head coaches in the last 5 years.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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The Raiders have been to the playoffs 6 times in the last 21 years since Free Agency
The Steelers have been to the playoffs 16 times in the same period with 2 SB championships.
How dare you compare the Oakland Raiders to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Or the Rooney family to Al Davis
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What is the point of this? have you forgotten during a great deal of that span the afc west was a power division. We had a guy named elway that won two superbowls we had to contend with.
The steelers got fat beating the bungles, and browns twice a year.
Regardless of any of that the roony’s have a certain way they do business, davis does too. So do most sports owners. Davis is not unique in that regard.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
@551
Hah ha…get BOILER in there, that would have been funny to hear at just the right time.. when the soul was crushed from defeat. But, even a drunk man could see the Raiders needed a change, that is the point. JC looks like a sack-less dancer behind that shaky o-line, where Grads has the huevos to deal and place the ball where it needs to be. Boiler’s traits will be known this Sunday.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Olinesux Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
thats a funny link kell on o duh nell…
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That was unimaginable. Yeah funny, but jeeez.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
mistic..
the problem is exactly that, Al thinks we have a championsship team, and he doesnt believe in chemistry, and Al never gives coaches credit, so why should we give him any???
the year after AL dies we are in the Playoffs..
October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
The coach here is all alone, on top of that, we always get unproven coaches…
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Yep,
Sometimes it works, often times not.
What is wrong with getting a Proven Winner as a head coach, and paying Him.
Credibility IS important to players.
Parcells sure as hell got everyones attention.
C’mon AL.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Davis has what he likes, but he is not as rigid as you make him out to be.
We have had west coast offense, we have had vertical coryel/gilman offense.
We have had 4-3, we have had 3-4.
Bottom line Davis believs in great players, schemes, and chemistry are over rated.
Please dont try to deny davis credit for 2002. davis signs all of the checks, and signs of on all moves, if it was in silver and black, it wasnt without the blessing of old man al.
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I thank him for getting gannon(wait nvmd that was grudens idea) thank him for drafting derek gibson instead of todd heap(gruden was for heap)..BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU he cares about players, he also lost us the SB cuz he traded away our most important weapon in thoughs years..CHUCKY..and the reason was…CHUCKY was better than him and he knew it…after that, puppet after puppet running the same damn offense, he was also responsible for hiring SHELL AND WALSH..lol..JACKSON was a great move in my opinion, first smart thing he has done in a while..but as i said, 9ers game was jackson and cable to blame…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
STOP BACKING AL MISTIC
October 19th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
SHCEMES AND CHEMISTRY ARE OVERATED..LOL. tell that to the patriots dynasty team, and belechek…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
We are in a constant state of flux. i agree with this comment, we aquire athletes and talent at skill positions and switch coordinators that all share the basic philosphy, it is a hodgepog…
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The steelers have the same philosphy they have had since the 70’s, lights out defense strong run game, and deep passing.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to your philosophy, when it has been a winner for you.
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yeah problem is that their ideology works in this day and age, and they let their coach make decisions, and their management staff is professional…
our ideology is outdated, we dont let our coach do the shopping and there isnt a professional management to support the coach..
The coach here is all alone, on top of that, we always get unproven coaches…
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Madden, Flores, Gruden…unproven before davis hooked them up. All three won trophies, i think the old man knows what he is doing.
Lots of caoches dont have complete control over the roster, this is not unique to oakland.
Lets not get to caught up in the recent history of the last seven years. It hasnt been pretty, but is that any better than coming close and losing? Not in oakland it isnt.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Steelers hired an unproven coach 3 times in a row. They run a defense that’s been around for 25 years. The offense is simplistic and hasn’t changed in over a decade. Their doing the same thing since the 70’s and 80’s. They started winning when they got a decent QB anyone who keeps Kordell Stewart at QB for 7 years isn’t a great coach he’s a decent coach in a great prgram that’s been working for years they know who fits their scheme because it hasn’t changed in ovcer 20 years. They just get players that fit.
Simple as that……………anuthing else is lies and damn lies.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Schemes are over rated that is why so many different schemes have won the super bowl.
Chemistry is overated, ask kobe and any of his teammates.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
its funny the irony in all that..lol..WE GET SCREWED IN FOXBORO, to a team with a second year QB, GREAT CHEMISTRY, GREAT SCHEME, GREAT COACHING..lol.. We release our most important weapon(gruden)..think gannon can do it himself(gannon and trestman were the guys who wanted to throw more, gruden wanted to keep the game balanced)..gannon becoems MVP and faces a great scheme in the superbowl( a scheme in fact that knows every gannon manurism, audible, formation shift, read..everything)…no why, cuz we got rid of our coach!!!THE SAVIOR THAT THIS ORGINZATION WAS CRAVING SINCE GOD KNOWS WHEN!!! THE GUY TO TAKE US TO THE PROMISE LAND!! THE GUY WHO WASNT THE PUPPET!!IM SORRY BRO BUT DAVIS’ PHILOSPHY IS CRAP, PURELY AND SIMPLY CRAP…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
The coach here is all alone, on top of that, we always get unproven coaches…
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Yep,
Sometimes it works, often times not.
What is wrong with getting a Proven Winner as a head coach, and paying Him.
Credibility IS important to players.
Parcells sure as hell got everyones attention.
C’mon AL.
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true dat…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Madden, Flores, Gruden…unproven before davis hooked them up. All three won trophies, i think the old man knows what he is doing.
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Talk about 6 playoff appearances in the last 21 years.
Talk about double digit losing seasons. adding up to a W-L of 31-87
And somebody brings up John Madden and Tom Flores….sad.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Lets not get to caught up in the recent history of the last seven years. It hasnt been pretty, but is that any better than coming close and losing? Not in oakland it isnt.
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I’m a patient Guy.
But the last 7, going on 8 seasons have been ridiculous.
This has to stop.
Or not.
If it continues much longer, the Coloseium will be empty.
What a shame.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Steelers hired an unproven coach 3 times in a row. They run a defense that’s been around for 25 years. The offense is simplistic and hasn’t changed in over a decade. Their doing the same thing since the 70’s and 80’s. They started winning when they got a decent QB anyone who keeps Kordell Stewart at QB for 7 years isn’t a great coach he’s a decent coach in a great prgram that’s been working for years they know who fits their scheme because it hasn’t changed in ovcer 20 years. They just get players that fit.
Simple as that……………anuthing else is lies and damn lies.
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That is the truth, change for the sake of change is a bad idea.
This is the Raider way, if you dont like it you could always be a chief fan.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Madden, Flores, Gruden…unproven before davis hooked them up. All three won trophies, i think the old man knows what he is doing.
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Talk about 6 playoff appearances in the last 21 years.
Talk about double digit losing seasons. adding up to a W-L of 31-87
And somebody brings up John Madden and Tom Flores….sad.
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Dont forget gruden
October 19th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Steelers hired an unproven coach 3 times in a row. They run a defense that’s been around for 25 years. The offense is simplistic and hasn’t changed in over a decade. Their doing the same thing since the 70’s and 80’s.
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I guess they are just a tad way smarter than Al…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Lets not get to caught up in the recent history of the last seven years. It hasnt been pretty, but is that any better than coming close and losing? Not in oakland it isnt.
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
What does it hurt to lose the most games over 6-years?
Ummm…NOTHING, but merchandise and ticket sales.
Oh, and a lot of pride.
But, that’s all.
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This is all you get from the Davis worshippers. “Losing aint that bad”
October 19th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
if we take the 70’s out of our pedigree, we are a lousy lousy franchise, since free agency we actually has been terrible…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
What is this proven coach stuff, sonds like code language for retread to me. Parcells is a favorite on this blog, what the hell has he done since he was with lt, and carl banks? Squat!
Please tell me proven coach…who?
October 19th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Its sad that some Raider fans will actually celebrate when ole Al finally goes…but I’m starting to understand it…
Campbell says he may have torn meniscus. Could Colt be back?
http://raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room
October 19th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU 2 CAN SIT THERE AND TRY TELLING ALL OF US THIS GARBAGE!!!
The Steelers run an aggressive defense that causes turnovers(first difference)…
Oh yeah and i like what priest said, they GET PLAYERS WHO FIT WHAT THEY WANT TO RUN…ILL SAY AGAIN…AND AGAIN….AND AGAIN!!!! throughtout these dominant SB YEARS…they have had A>HOF COACH(agree with it or not he will be in the HOF, great in your face coaching, or great coaching all together, oh yeah AL doesnt beleive in that lol) B>HOF running back in BETTIS C>HOF WR WARD
D>Defense that scores points cuz they dont play vanilla and are aggressive. (GREAT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR)…BLITZBURG!!! ANOTHER GREAT COACH!! SOMETHING AL DONT BELIEVE IN….AND OF COURSE BIG BEN, a DEVELOPED, DRAFTED QB, who will one day be a HOF guy…so they do get great coaches..check..they develop great defensive exautic blitz schemes..check.. they have HOF players on there teams..check..
TELL ME ONE ASPECT OF THIS ORGINIZATION THAT COMPARES TO THE STEELERS!!!NOT ONE!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
if we take the 70’s out of our pedigree, we are a lousy lousy franchise, since free agency we actually has been terrible…
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we won twice in the 80’s, perfect storms hit us twice in the last decade. Fat ass tony saragusa, the tuck rule, and the raiders alter ego, and the curse of chucky.
It runs in cycles, we will be back
October 19th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
My Parcells history is not crystal clear.
But I do know that he got New England to the SB.
Right?
Also got the Jets to the playoffs.
He Hired the head coach and drafted the personell to get Miami back on track.
Accurate?
October 19th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
The same is true with the Steelers if you take away their winning years. The Might Steelers lost for over 40 years before they ever won anything. They were the worst sports franchise in the history of sports for 40 years. Old man Rooney only had the team because he liked hanging around ball players.
The same is true with Dallas the same is true with the 49ers if you take away a 15 year stretch they’re the Detroit Lions. That’s a silly way to think.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
they believe in good coaching, yeah they have signed un provens but they ARE NOT PUPPETS!!!!!!!!!
THEY RUN AN AGGRESIVE BLITZING DEFENSE
THEY HAVE HOF PLAYERS/COACHES!!
October 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Priestj, Norco Bob, Brien the Whatever, HazeDazey, Mistic: All Davis worshipers, all unconcerned about losing:
“Great Day to be a Raiders Fan, eh”
“I go to every game to get high and drunk”
“The last 7 years haven’t been that bad”
“So the Raiders lost, what are you whining about”
“DHB reminds me of Jerry Rice”
October 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU 2 CAN SIT THERE AND TRY TELLING ALL OF US THIS GARBAGE!!!
The Steelers run an aggressive defense that causes turnovers(first difference)…
Oh yeah and i like what priest said, they GET PLAYERS WHO FIT WHAT THEY WANT TO RUN…ILL SAY AGAIN…AND AGAIN….AND AGAIN!!!! throughtout these dominant SB YEARS…they have had A>HOF COACH(agree with it or not he will be in the HOF, great in your face coaching, or great coaching all together, oh yeah AL doesnt beleive in that lol) B>HOF running back in BETTIS C>HOF WR WARD
D>Defense that scores points cuz they dont play vanilla and are aggressive. (GREAT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR)…BLITZBURG!!! ANOTHER GREAT COACH!! SOMETHING AL DONT BELIEVE IN….AND OF COURSE BIG BEN, a DEVELOPED, DRAFTED QB, who will one day be a HOF guy…so they do get great coaches..check..they develop great defensive exautic blitz schemes..check.. they have HOF players on there teams..check..
TELL ME ONE ASPECT OF THIS ORGINIZATION THAT COMPARES TO THE STEELERS!!!NOT ONE!!!
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You missed my point.
The steelers have had the same philosophy since the seventies. They have won in the 70’s and didnt get back to the super bowl until the 90’s. They lost had a few more lean seasons and came back to win it all.
I bet during those stretches there were plenty of people suggesting that the roony’s had lost it too.
Goes to show you cant jump ship ( pirate ship) just because the fans want you to. Stick to what you know.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Its sad that some Raider fans will actually celebrate when ole Al finally goes…but I’m starting to understand it
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I cant speak of others, I wont celebrate, but I sure as a fan will be relieved, and I will be sad too, for him ot retire in a honorary position and let some new brains take care of the franchise so he could die with maximum respect from fans. friends and enemies…
problem with the Al situation is, if the 1970’s Al Davis, heard about a franchise in the situation like ours… he would laugh and say the old fart would do the franchise and fans a big favor to step back..
October 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Funny the players on that 2000-2002 team werent DAVIS type of players, they were possesion receivers with great hands, cerebral QB, west coast RBS, short west coast passing game..
October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
After all you know yu guy’s can always leave and root for the Steelers since they can do no wrong.
Why are you here???
October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Goes to show you cant jump ship ( pirate ship) just because the fans want you to. Stick to what you know.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Priestj, Norco Bob, Brien the Whatever, HazeDazey, Mistic: All Davis worshipers, all unconcerned about losing:
“Great Day to be a Raiders Fan, eh”
“I go to every game to get high and drunk”
“The last 7 years haven’t been that bad”
“So the Raiders lost, what are you whining about”
“DHB reminds me of Jerry Rice”
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Come on bra, dont put words in my mouth
October 19th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
they believe in good coaching, yeah they have signed un provens but they ARE NOT PUPPETS!!!!!!!!!
THEY RUN AN AGGRESIVE BLITZING DEFENSE
THEY HAVE HOF PLAYERS/COACHES!!
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Why have the steelers run the 3-4 defense for so many years?
Why do they have so many power runners in thier history?
It is the roony way, why is that hard for you to accept?
October 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Its sad that some Raider fans will actually celebrate when ole Al finally goes…but I’m starting to understand it
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I’d like to make clear, I don’t want anything untold to happen to him. Just turn the thing over to younger men.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Goes to show you cant jump ship ( pirate ship) just because the fans want you to. Stick to what you know.
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the wife is cheating on you, but hey stick with what you know…
what a load of crap…
fact is, what all has done since the mid 80’s hasnt worked, besides 3 years around the millennial…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Come on bra, dont put words in my mouth
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“The last 7 years haven’t been that bad”
Your words, not mine.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Funny the players on that 2000-2002 team werent DAVIS type of players, they were possesion receivers with great hands, cerebral QB, west coast RBS, short west coast passing game..
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Wait…they played for the raiders right?
Davis paid them , right.
Davis wants to win, and he said “scheme is over rated”.
So you are only proving my point with this.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
NOW, i do agree with that..thats why i have said pleanty of times that i still beleive in this season because i think HUGH JACKSON is despite last game a gppd coordinator, i think we have young/talented playmakers(emphasis on young)..this team theortetically has the potential to be a GREAT CLASSIC AL DAVIS RAIDER TEAM, potential though, its just hard to put young talented PLAYERS IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE PHILOSPHY IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO PERFECTLY EXECUTE(most of DAVIS teams have been stacked with proven winning veterans) this team is not.. IF HUGH JACKSON calls HIS GAME…HIS GAME..not ALS GAME, we can be a great team , GRADS will have to do for now, we need a long term answer..but grads will have to do for now, and im STILL NOT GIVIN UP COMPLETELY ON CAMPBELL, NOT TOTALLY…we gotta call the right game for him to succeed…
October 19th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
I understand cycles.
They are a fact of all things living.
This cycle is of AL’s making.
It’s not just bad “luck”.
I’ve said it before.
ALL 80 yr old people need help.
Al is trying to run an NFL franchise the same way He did when He was in his 40’s.
Hell, I’d argue he had more help then, than now.
Again, this is not rockett science.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
OUR recievers didnt run 4.2 40’s
QB didnt throw the ball 80 yds off his knee
OFFENSIVE SYSTEM didnt consist of run run PA
CONCLUSION: AL isnt an idiot, he knew he had sumthing good with thoughs players and they were WINNING!!!! He was desperate to win so he caved on his philosphy..let gruden run the show for a while..lol..then blew it all cuz he coulndt handle it..lol..3 years of playoff football besieged by 25 years of crap..
October 19th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Listen man every player that gets on this team is a Davis player unless you’ve bought into some hype characterisation of the genuine article. Mr Davis wants players the media willl tell you he ONLY likes certain types. I’ve seen him draft QB’s with average arms(Marinovich and Stabler) and some with great arms( Marc Wilson and JaMarcus Russell) to say he oONLY likes a certain type player is a myth.
Maybe in the secondary he likes speed or at WR he likes speed but he’ll draft a lot of possesion guy’s like Mike Siani Jerry Porter and several others. Zack Miller isn’t some speedster neither Mike Bush. But they can play.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
if he would have kept gruden and ignored his EGO we wouldnt be in the whole we are in now..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Gruden didn’t run crap, since when did Gruden draft players?? Gruden was a coach nothing more nothing less.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
HAVE THE PLAYERS WE HAVE HAD FOR THE PAST 7 years been able to play??
October 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Then what happened in Tamps Bay?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
lol he got to face the QB that he made..lol..and ate him for lunch…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Come on bra, dont put words in my mouth
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“The last 7 years haven’t been that bad”
Your words, not mine.
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This is a only part of my statement taken out of context. This was what i said exactly.
“Some times its like that. Ask the cowboys. What about the gap between unitas and manning. Or bart star and Favre ( the most over rated player in nfl history).
In the grand scheme of things 7 years is painfull but not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.”
Please dont use quotes unless you are going to be exact, other wise you are spreading false hood. The truth shall set you free.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
# mistic1 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Funny the players on that 2000-2002 team werent DAVIS type of players, they were possesion receivers with great hands, cerebral QB, west coast RBS, short west coast passing game..
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Wait…they played for the raiders right?
Davis paid them , right.
Davis wants to win, and he said “scheme is over rated”.
So you are only proving my point with this.
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actually it proves how stupid ole Al is… because he let go of Gruden, who was the architect behind it, and he then let the carpenter take care of the plan..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
If we didnt get rid of him we would have won in 2002-2003…we would have kept gannon, players would have not hated our coach(cuz gruden wouldnt have called his team the dumbest in america) and we probably would have been a solid team for a few more years, maybe playoffs too.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Every player that’s been on this team was drafted by Mr davis bad or good. You guy’s have an opinion of him that just might not be accurate…….simple as that
October 19th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
OUR recievers didnt run 4.2 40’s
QB didnt throw the ball 80 yds off his knee
OFFENSIVE SYSTEM didnt consist of run run PA
CONCLUSION: AL isnt an idiot, he knew he had sumthing good with thoughs players and they were WINNING!!!! He was desperate to win so he caved on his philosphy..let gruden run the show for a while..lol..then blew it all cuz he coulndt handle it..lol..3 years of playoff football besieged by 25 years of crap..
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Wait… is he rigid, or does he cave? You cant have it both ways.
Any body who knows any thing about Al davis knows Davis never caves…..ever. he will however let a coach do his thing if it works. Dont beleive the hype.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
And yeah ill admit like i have a million times on this site, this team we have now is a great group of players AL hand picked, JACKSON is a good coordinator, he just has to play his game, like chucky did..play HIS GAME..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Mystic1 that’s all they know is HYPE they hav eno choice but to believe it they get fed HYPE everyday in here by the BLOGGER
October 19th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
WHY DID HE GET RID OF GRUDEN THEN!!!!!!!
because AL wasnt the face of the franchicse anymore mistic!! it was the chucky dolls everyone was bringin into the stadium..lol..gruden was to good to be true, and since his philosophy differed from al’s, and it wasnt known has als team anymore, al got rid of him…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
My critisisim of Gruden would be that he ran a boring brand of offense, and He leaned heavily on older players.
It was successful. It’s documented.
It would have been interesting to see how the roster was turned over under Gruden, had he stayed, and how the team performed during the transition.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Mystic1 that’s all they know is HYPE they hav eno choice but to believe it they get fed HYPE everyday in here by the BLOGGER
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well thats your take, we are plenty enough that either say you must be blind or eat what you are fed by the raider propaganda
October 19th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
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# Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
If we didnt get rid of him we would have won in 2002-2003…we would have kept gannon, players would have not hated our coach(cuz gruden wouldnt have called his team the dumbest in america) and we probably would have been a solid team for a few more years, maybe playoffs too.
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yeah thanks Al… you doing a great job, LOL
October 19th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
ITS not hype man, if you 2 have read my posts, im not taking sides, the team we have now is a direct example of DAVIS, his guys, his type of guys, and they are good, minus the makeshift O-line and musical QB’S, we are talented and fast and hungry..lol..im not like the typical hype guy, i like al cuz im a raider fan and i know that its his team, but EVERYONE KNOWS he made a mistake when he let go of gruden..lol..he even said it himself!!!
The past seven years have been bad yes..the team we have know is the best one we have had in the past 7years, so yeah he has made progress in the decade.. HYPE, HYPE, HYPE….BUT YOU 2 MISTIC AND TJ..you guys ALWAYS ALWAYS GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, i admit when he makes dumb decisions and i say when he has made right ones….dont feed me your BS and say im HYPE driven…i see what i see every sunday for the past 17 years of my life…i know what we have and what we dont..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
That said, maaan Memphis Belle is a great movie…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
JMack what the hell do you think he was hired to do??? lol
October 19th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
My critisisim of Gruden would be that he ran a boring brand of offense, and He leaned heavily on older players.
It was successful. It’s documented.
It would have been interesting to see how the roster was turned over under Gruden, had he stayed, and how the team performed during the transition.
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Good question, i would have loved to see it..No telling the result, he may have won more, or did what he did in tampa, a playoff appearance here and there..but it would have been better then what we had….but now is now, we have a squad lets ball..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
JMack what the hell do you think he was hired to do??? lol
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Gruden? Turn around a team that had been coached by IDIOTS…QB’d by idiots…return the team to greatness, put fans in the stands..then get fired for no real reason, idk?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Oh and aquiring Gannon, which was his idea completely..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
u know, the 2002 MVP? he was grudens boy, not AL’s
October 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
JMack I have always admitted his mistakes that I thought were his mistakes. What I don’t do is accept other peoples opinions that a mistakes was his if I don’t think it was. Ja Marcus Russell was a mistake, Kiffin a HUGE mistake Joe Bugle a HUGE mistake.
I have no problem critigueing him I’m just npot on board with the stupid if we lose it’s his fault if we win he had nothing to do with it crap. THat’s the HYPE I’m talking about.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Good question, i would have loved to see it..No telling the result, he may have won more, or did what he did in tampa, a playoff appearance here and there..but it would have been better then what we had….but now is now, we have a squad lets ball..
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Agreed with all.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
KK if you are so mad at Al Davis essentially the heart and soul of the Raider organization, move along, find another team to follow and become happy again. You cry cry cry, and it gets you absolutely nowhere. Go put upm a bill board if you think it will get you some satisfaction. Us “Davis worshipers”, just don’t take this sh!t as personally as your old ass does.
Really suks to be you.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Gruden didn’t get fired son he left of his own accord. He left……..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
or you could DIAF, and that would be okay too.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Good freaking krist, all the Gruden nut hugging is disgusting. WTF happened in Tampa?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
JMack I have always admitted his mistakes that I thought were his mistakes. What I don’t do is accept other peoples opinions that a mistakes was his if I don’t think it was. Ja Marcus Russell was a mistake, Kiffin a HUGE mistake Joe Bugle a HUGE mistake.
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As head of the Raiders, 31-87 accurately represent the length and breath of his mistakes.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
obviously when we win, he has something to do with it, all i said was that 2000-2003 team, wasnt complasant with his philosphy’s/beleifs of football..When he hired gruden you can damn well beleive that he was gona giv a bigger leash with the state his team was in, he did, we had success, then he got greedy and released the guy who represented in every way a raider. Gruden was a raider.
the picks we got for him were horrible besides nnamdi, we got 2 first rounders, 2 second rounders correct? who of them are still on the roster?
Admit releasing Gruden was a mistake
October 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
As head of the Raiders, 31-87 accurately represent the length and breath of his mistakes.
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that’s it? Just another intriguing one liner from an idiot. KK you are the poor mans MMR.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
put up the last 7 year record again for the 10th time today, you have nothing else.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
What I don’t do is accept other peoples opinions that a mistakes was his if I don’t think it was.
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31-87 is not opinion, see what I’m saying?
6 playoff appearances in 21 years is not opinion.
7 straight double digit losing seasons, is not opinion.
That’s production.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
poor mans RMR
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
He left bcuz A. Davis emberessed him infront of the whole team after the 2000 loss to the ravens, and jumped down his throat when Notre Dame rumors arose in 2001-2002 year, he basically forced him out. And got pics for him, which all were wasted save 1.. HEY DREXL!!BUDDY!!NOT NUT HUGGIN ANYBODY!! HE WAS OUR LAST GREAT COACH!!LOVED HIM AND I BET YOU DID TOO WHEN WE WERE WINNNNNNNIIIINNNNGGGGG WIIIITHHHH HIIMMMMMM!!!!
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Got greedy are you NUTS?? Greedy for what?? he had everything he wanted Greedy? See that’;s the kind of crap I have no patience for because you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about……………period
October 19th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
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31-87 is not opinion, see what I’m saying?
6 playoff appearances in 21 years is not opinion.
7 straight double digit losing seasons, is not opinion.
That’s production.
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say it again!!!
you bring nothing else to the table
October 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
whats the currant 7 year record i forgot?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
But let me say again, past is past, just trying to prove that sometimes when we did have success(short lived) it wasnt based of DAVIS’s raider philosphy, there was great coahcing invlolved, schemes, etc…
the closest thing we have had in a while to a great DAVIS TEAM is the team we have now, very talented and hungry with JACKSON i like em..you happy guys??
October 19th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Gruden didn’t get fired son he left of his own accord. He left……..
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As I recall Gruden was trade3d in the middle of the night after the contract extension he WAS GOING TO SIGN, was altered with regard to caoching staff and personell issues.
Right?
I know Bruce Allen, was none to happy.
It’s documented.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
What I don’t do is accept other peoples opinions that a mistakes was his if I don’t think it was.
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31-87 is not opinion, see what I’m saying?
6 playoff appearances in 21 years is not opinion.
7 straight double digit losing seasons, is not opinion.
That’s production. Or a startling lack thereof.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Keep the hits coming KooKoo you retard.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
That is a truely remarkable record of failure.
Al, do you really want to be remembered this way?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Keep the hits coming KooKoo you retard.
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Any rebuttal more substantive to 31-87?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
So Tampa Bay just sent us 3 or 4 draft picks for nothing? Including a 1st rounder?
LMFAO
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Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Gruden didn’t get fired son he left of his own accord. He left……..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Got greedy are you NUTS?? Greedy for what?? he had everything he wanted Greedy? See that’;s the kind of crap I have no patience for because you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about……………period
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Greedy/stubborn…he had what he wanted yes, a winner, in gruden, but wait, gruden was a fan favorite ok…wait..DAVIS doesnt beleive in coaching..so he gets greeeeeeeeedyyyyyyyy and gets rid of him and thinks he can win with calahan(puppt)…and gannon/rice/brown/porter/garner….good idea, would have worked to..lol..
would have worked..lol.. except Karma came and bit him so dam hard in his old a$$ he had no idea what hit him..get rid of your coach..lol..play him in the SUPERBOWL and get Fu**ed in your old A$$..thats what happens when you get greedy…i dont know what im talking about?? Doesnt take a rocket scientist to know what happened..
YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT TJ..but all you do is say the same $h*t over and over again my man, obviously i will always be in DAVIS’s corner cuz he is the RAIDERS, but i know when a dude Fu*ks up…not hard to see..i could care less about your “expert opinion” lol…your in here with all the rest of us so that makes you one of us…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
tj speaking of retarded can you explain how you came to the conclusion DHB is a threat to a defense?
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Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Keep the hits coming KooKoo you retard.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
This is the part where tj the nutless wonder disappears for the night.
P.O.S
October 19th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
The think is TJ i agree with u on alot of things, but ur so slanted to one way its hard to take u seriously sometimes..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
So Tampa Bay just sent us 3 or 4 draft picks for nothing? Including a 1st rounder?
LMFAO
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Yep!
October 19th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
So Tampa Bay just sent us 3 or 4 draft picks for nothing? Including a 1st rounder?
LMFAO
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Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Gruden didn’t get fired son he left of his own accord. He left……..
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thank you!
October 19th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RaiderLen Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Gruden didn’t get fired son he left of his own accord. He left……..
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As I recall Gruden was trade3d in the middle of the night after the contract extension he WAS GOING TO SIGN, was altered with regard to caoching staff and personell issues.
Right?
I know Bruce Allen, was none to happy.
It’s documented.
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thank you!!
October 19th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Jmack
I stopped taking tj seriously about 3 years ago. How long have you been coming in here?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
KMack you have your opinion I have mine, and never the two shall meet. Gruden had just as much blame for his departure as Mr Davis. If someone doesn’t wnat to be here what can you do? Iguess he should’ve begged him to stay. Yeah he should’ve begged him and gave him the team so he could do what he did in Tampa. Yeah that works……get outta here…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
he will reply now and be like, well you see, technicly he still wasnt fired he did just leave!!! his fault davis tried pullin a last second change on the contract…
October 19th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
tj, your quiet on DHB after you anointed him HOF material.
Didnt you say DHB is better than T Brown & C Branch, tj?
Fraud & Buffoon!
October 19th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
ive been reading this blog for about 3 or 4 years(oaklandtribune) is the best source of team news a guy from morrisville PA can get..TJ.. he didnt have to beg bro, he could have just not been a giant dick and tried changing the contract that they had alreayd went over….why push the issue? if u have a winner let him win…didnt have to beg him..didnt have to at all..just respect him for what he did and try ur best to keep ur winning coach on ur team thats all..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Gruden was becoming the face of the Raiders, that’s the problem.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
With all do respect AL IMO has done a good job in putting this team together, going young…Jackson just has to keep the gameplan within his teams limits.. has i said before, nice rythem passin game, timely runs that go for 6 yds a pop like they did against SD, i luv 3 and 4 boys i love it!! i dont like 3 and 9 and 3 and 13. we found ourselves in many of thoughs situations sunday..play the game this teams personel are able to play..why try for bombs when you can get a nice ten yarder to miller? BUSH? REECE? MURPHY?
October 19th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Gruden was becoming the face of the Raiders, that’s the problem.
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Oh i know, didnt want to say it tha blatantly though, might have given somebody a heart attak, thats the truth though..
October 19th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
I don’t buy into your garbage and it pisses you off. Gruden wasn’t some Saint. But you want me to think he was, and he wasn’t.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Gruden became more than the face of the franchise if he had just been happy with that he would’ve goten what he wanted.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
We dont have to worry about any Raider players getting a flagrant suspension we dont lay the wood to anybody.
Especially #21, the next time he puts a hit on anybody will be the first time.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Bruce Allen was the spokes person you never heard from Mr Davis and still don’t. Tom Cable is the face of the franchise now and he’s happy with that. The other wanted more a lot more.
October 19th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Gruden became more than the face of the franchise if he had just been happy with that he would’ve goten what he wanted.
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He got a Super Bowl ring kicking the shcct out of Al Davis, which obviously he’s never recovered from.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
tj how does it feel to come in here everyday and be made a fool ?
You keep coming back for more, unbelievable really!
October 19th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Never said he wasnt a saint my dude…lol..u are very insecure. Never asked you to buy into any of my “garbage either”. I just state fact(with the help of raider len and misterbrown with their 2 posts) Gruden was far from a saint and thats what made him a great raider coach!! and yes i know he wasnt always in the right and probably there was some instances were he tried pullin a fast one or two on DAVIS, but DAVIS’s job is to JUST WIN BABY!! IF HE REALLY WANTED TO JUST WIN..he would have made sure that gruden was given what he wanted to stay..but he didnt, our loss, his win.
And it doesnt piss me off cuz i know what im saying has some validity to it, you act as if you are AL’s buddy and you work in the front office, maybe you do, chances are you dont. Thats why it boggles my mind you are so very quick to defend the guy who has openly said “i dont care about them” “its my team”…
October 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
KKKell, you should send tj a Christmas card because when he is here he is the #1 punching bag. When he leaves you slide into his warm seat as the village idiot.
lol
October 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I will place the Over/Under on how many more passes Jason Campbell will throw in an Oakland Raider uniform at 47.5
Out for a few weeks with this injury, and he will struggle to get the backup job back.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
KKKell, you should send tj a Christmas card because when he is here he is the #1 punching bag. When he leaves you slide into his warm seat as the village idiot.
lol
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lol…messed up. Kell means well i think.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I will place the Over/Under on how many more passes Jason Campbell will throw in an Oakland Raider uniform at 47.5
Out for a few weeks with this injury, and he will struggle to get the backup job back.
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Over
October 19th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
now where is brennan, get his a$$ outa laguna beach and get him on the practice field..lol
October 19th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Hue Jackson clearly can’t stand Jason Campbell as his QB, and I think Hue Jackson has more Raider capital right now than Jason Campbell.
Kind of funny that Denver is the same point spread as the 49ers were over us, even though one team was 0-5 and the other 2-4, with Denver being a longer travel and a tougher place to play.
Basically, Vegas is not much of a fan of Jason Campbell either.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
You are a LIAR when has he ever said “I don’t care about my coaches” now you’re a flat out liar.
So just move on son with it I aint interested anymore. I thought you were legit but you’re just another sucka with an agenda……period
October 19th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
BrownStains
If I were you, I wouldn’t be talking about sliding on your arse into warm seats.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
LMFAO!!!!
tj is priceless. The only blogger that can take the heat of KKKell.
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Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
I thought you were legit but you’re just another sucka with an agenda……period
October 19th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
agenda hahah..he didnt say he didnt care about his coaches, i didnt say that he said openly howwever “this is my team, i dont care what they thing” about the FANS,wow lol….he said this during the period of him moving the raiders to LA. Asked what he felt about the fans, he said he didnt care about them, this is “my team its not their team”
October 19th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
talking about the fans
October 19th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
I did have respect for you TJ, but tonight you showed me alot of things, and i kind of pitty you now in a way..GO RAIDERS!
October 19th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
There’s a great article on the website called ( bleacher report ) about the raiders. Titled ” Oakland raiders choke against sf 49ers: raider nation deserves better ” it’s written by a reporter, Jay Dee a raider fan for 37 yrs. It sums up the game against sf and the coaching staff to a T. I suggest people on this blog should read it. It sums up the issues with this team perfectly.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Gruden could be back in coaching as soon as next year.
He has been linked most prominently with the 1-5 Browns, given his past relationship with team president Mike Holmgren. And, as a practical matter, Gruden’s comments could make some current coaches leery about welcoming Gruden to practice and otherwise sharing strategy and secrets for purposes of the broadcast, if they’ll be once again competing with Gruden as soon as January.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
He’ll ya Texas with a three run homer. Takes the lead 5 to 3 awesome
October 19th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Gruden shows up next year in Big D, baby.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
No Gruden will show up in SF. Cowher will show up in Big D.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Can’t tell you how happy most Raider fans would be if we could get a legit reputable coach up in here.
I’ll even take Brian Billick.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
If I were a professional football player had a 10.7 passer rating, I’d be totally embarrassed. A public apology to the fan base would seem appropriate. How does a QB even get that low? Quite an achievement JC. Hang your head low Mr. Campbell. Even the greatest of all time BUST, the JaLoser, didn’t rate that low on any game and he was beyond terrible. I don’t know how you intend on getting back into the good races. Truth is, I think you are already dead meat just waiting for a spot to be buried. I think your days at Oakland are over and the big countdown is well underway.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
graces
October 19th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Lucky for Campbell he tore his meniscus, or at least he claims to. I think he’s had enough.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
MCCLAIN..post the link to that article man..
October 19th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
No Gruden will show up in SF. Cowher will show up in Big D.
Gruden shows up at browns Cowher shows up at Penn State
October 19th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Certain player were born to be a Raider. he same can be said for John Gruden. Next to Madden, Gruden is my favorite Raider coach.
Come home John Gruden, the family is in need, BIG TIME.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
A Gruden/Holmgren combo would be dangerous but not sure Gruden would want Holmgren overseeing him.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Shanahan must be laughing his a$$$ off right now for getting a 4th for JaPuke. He was gonna cut him anyway. JaDumbVis takes the bait every time.
October 19th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Wish list:
• Parcells – GM
• Gruden – HC
• Gannon – OC
• Vick – QB
It’s never going to happen but it sure would turn things around. It would also probably put a lot of butts back into the seats at the Coliseum.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Agree with everthing exept Gruden and Gannon. Gannon’s all hot air IMO Gruden is old news. I’ll take Harbaugh in a heartbeat. I’ll even take that Chris Peterson from Boise St. It’s getting to the point I get tired of Gruden’s name.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
We all knew Tom Cable was a fill-in
We all knew DHB was the wrong pick.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
kkell is da man
October 19th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
KKKell,
You are saying the MRI showed no tear so Campbell threatened the doctor to lie about his injury?
You dumb mope get serious!
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KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Lucky for Campbell he tore his meniscus, or at least he claims to. I think he’s had enough.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
But you loved Art Shell.
You did backflips when H Jackson came on as OC.
You fell head over heels for MaMeatloaf.
Seems like you are just as lost as that 80 yr old man A Davis.
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KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
We all knew Tom Cable was a fill-in
We all knew DHB was the wrong pick.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
*JaMeatloaf
October 19th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
lol
October 19th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
KKKell see what I mean?
When tj is gone you are next in line…
lol
October 19th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
That bogus challenge by Singletary cost us 1st and goal from the 5-yard line.
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First and FOREVER. Campbell wouldn’t have been able to get us in the endzone if the niners had only put 3 guys on defense to stop him.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Brownstains
Only you and a few other trolls here are interested in troll nonsense.
Pretty much the rest of us are worried about Sunday’s during football seasons. Get over it.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Jmack,
Don’t meant to sound stupid. But I probably do. I usually post my comments with my iPhone. To be honest don’t know how to post a link with my iPhone. And I’m at work not by my computer. All I know is I found the jay lee article about the raiders by googling bleacher report. There’s an NFL section on that page then just click on teams. Click on raiders and then ur there. Sorry man not the brightest when it comes to computer stuff lmao. But it’s seriously a good article.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
KK I’m with ya’ on post #707 Sistabrown is the personification of a troll. No football discussion just comes here with rhetoric and contraversy in mind.
He really needs a life.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
tj,
I’ve tried to discuss DHB with you several times in the last week but you dont have the balls to defend the buffoonery that comes out your mouth.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
KKKell, you post the same nonsense here day in and day out. The same old tired cut & paste stats. I’m here every sunday talking football, get over it.
Looks like tj is humping your leg i’ll let you 2 derelicts give each other a reach around…
October 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I want to get into this blog but by reading most of these posts it’s obvious there’s many people that are in la la land. Too much wishfull thinking and not enough reality. Raiders are easy to break down. Obviously the coaching mentality, “huh… We miss opportunity, blah blah”, man up cable my high school and college coaches would tear your ass apart! Dhb- Rihanna called and has an umbrella for you! Whole you have a mansion to make with a prayer 3 catches a game the rest of Our work our asses off everyday to pay the bills. Dmc love ya to death but my god toughen up! And those that understand football it is won in the trenches. Develope and improve the o line. Try being a defense that plays there asses off to get kicked in the face and get maybe a 5 minute breather before there back on the field. Ya allot of motivation shown by Jamarcus Campbell. I’m not sure he knew be was in a football game in San Fran. So much talent and it’s so hard defending them day to day, game to game, year to year. It’s so easy to talk about change. Man up and make it happen. Raider for life!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
tj you are here until 2 am almost every night in here taking a beating trying to defend all the retarded horse sh!t that comes out your mouth and I need a life?
LMFAO
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Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
He really needs a life.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Sista all you’re intrested in is contraversy.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
SistaBrown you’re sick racist and ignorant. I think that covers it.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
687.aig-raiders Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
No Gruden will show up in SF. Cowher will show up in Big D.
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A nobody wanna be/has been for minimum salary will show up in Oakland.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Might as well bring in Goldie hawn.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
I’d rather keep Cable than go through another change that wont work in the long term. Cable is happy here he’s not a self promoter he’s not insecure(let’s Hujack have his space) no power struggles and works his butt off. No he’s not Mike Shanahan or Bill Belicik but he knows that and coaches within himself. Unless we bring in someone who is a varitable lock to improve the team not interested in change for the sake of change.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
trade deadline is midnight?
October 19th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Run-JMc,
He’ll ya way to put it. This team needs to man up. Play some freakin football raiders. You guys like being the laughing stock of the NFL. Does davis like lookin like a bloomin idiot. Let’s get this circus fixed.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
511.Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The staff got cocky, i dont blame the players for that loss, CAMPBELL did play bad no doubt, he played scared and late…but our gameplan lost us the game, we wanted to prove sumthing to them, we went in with the mentality the game would be a close grity headknocker, and we PUT OURSELVES IN THAT MINDSET, WE PLAYED THEIR GAME FELLAS!!!RIGHT INTO THEIR GAME!!!!RUNNIN THE SAME STRETCH PLAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEN A PLAY ACTION!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!
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Excellent observation. Cable prepared the team as if the possibility of actually kicking some a$$ and winning big wasn’t even a possibility. He said “This game will be decided in the fourth quarter”. What an inspirational motivator he is.
It was obvious that the Raiders could’ve taken it to SF and they act like they are shocked that they may be able to actually kick some butt, and then they go in to this “prevent offense” garbage.
Did it not seem like they were almost content just to get three points in the red zone? It’s like the possibility of scoring a touchdown didn’t even enter their minds.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
JFB: I’ll take the under on JC’s throws from here on out…last sunday was his attempt to tap out and get his pay for the rest of the year…
Once gruden get the SF job, and starts winning, WE ALL will be tired of hearing his name…
October 19th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Ya he is not them he hasn’t or can’t win.. Great point! But hey who cares cause he is happy! Wow how did football get like this!
October 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Trade deadline gone and Al does NOTHING???
He used to be fun. At least give us SOMETHING besides another double digit loss season.
We aren’t gonna win anything this season so do something interesting.
Trade just to trade. Why not? It doesn’t matter anyway. It’s not this team as assembled is anything to “protect”. Gimme a break.
That’s why I used to love Al; he would do things. make deals, to make the team better. What does he do now, just sleep?
October 19th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
New d coach marshall sucks, new o coordinator, best coach we have is the special teams coach. Let’s promote him to head coach. Atleast his group is kicking ass this yr. If ya all don’t see that ur NUTS………….Come join the fassel fan club.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Djohnnieg It’s not the coaches that look like that it’s the QB. THis game should not have been close with the way they called the game. I know some say he was way too conservative. I think it was because he couldn’t get anything out of the QB. We only had 3 plays in the 3rd qrtr.
So IMO Campbell has to show his coach that he can put the game in his hands. How by making throws, by showing he’s on top of his game and sharp. He did none of that. The coaches were desparate for someone to make a play and no one did. Except ZMiller and Campbell waited all game long to notice him.
There is only so much a coach can do to help a QB and they ran everything to help him he just didn’t execute….period
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
721.djohnnyg Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
511.Jmackraider12 Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The staff got cocky, i dont blame the players for that loss, CAMPBELL did play bad no doubt, he played scared and late…but our gameplan lost us the game, we wanted to prove sumthing to them, we went in with the mentality the game would be a close grity headknocker, and we PUT OURSELVES IN THAT MINDSET, WE PLAYED THEIR GAME FELLAS!!!RIGHT INTO THEIR GAME!!!!RUNNIN THE SAME STRETCH PLAYS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEN A PLAY ACTION!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!
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Excellent observation. Cable prepared the team as if the possibility of actually kicking some a$$ and winning big wasn’t even a possibility. He said “This game will be decided in the fourth quarter”. What an inspirational motivator he is.
It was obvious that the Raiders could’ve taken it to SF and they act like they are shocked that they may be able to actually kick some butt, and then they go in to this “prevent offense” garbage.
Did it not seem like they were almost content just to get three points in the red zone? It’s like the possibility of scoring a touchdown didn’t even enter their minds.
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I didn’t like that ‘the game will be decided in the 4th qtr” stuff. Too many reads into it.
-were as bad as they are, or they are as good as us, or I respect Mike so much kind of thing
-took away the we’re gonna come at you like we did SD
-were just not that good so there is no way we’ll sub in garbage time
-where’s the confidence. If they were to powerhouse teams, then that statement would seem appropiate.
But you gotta give him credit where credit is due. The big guy was right.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
this was not a shoot out, it was a field position game if he makes 2 throws the flea flicker and the deep 9 route this is a blowout 24-3.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Tj, yes I would have to agree it was Campbell primarily. I’m thinking right now about that 3rd down play where he just floated it out of the end zone and then walked back to the sidelines and was talking to a coach like “oh well, we got three. I did MY job”. ‘we weren’t trying to score a TD were we?”
October 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Thows 2 throws were supposed to be his strength w/ the ‘Big Arm’ and all…too bad he JaMarcus like in his accuracy…
JC prolly needs time w/ a Sports Psychologist to get over his ‘Battered QB Syndrome’…
October 19th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Yeah IMO that is the QB he has to get that done if he’s satisfies doing that then yeah it’ll look like the coaches concur. Campbell has to play with a much better sense of urgency his body language is horrible. I don’t know if he was hurt or what but I was pissed watching him piss that game away. We should’ve blown them out from down 1 6 points and then just bludgeon those fools. Man I hate that we lost that game it makes me freakin sick.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Would of could of cambell sucks.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Djohnny…you are right, JC’s body language during the game was Horrible, he looks defeated, or scared and doesn’t want to be there…he’s looking for an OUT w/ pay, hence this whole ‘miniscus’ deal w/ his MRI…he should man up and just quit the game if that is true.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
I guess what I’m trying to say is your QB must be supremely confident I mean SUPREMELY confident that he can win games because if he’s not you don’t have a chance this league is too tough.
In the last 5 years we’ve had guy’s that are trying to find their way. When we traded for Campbell my only hope was that he was a leader a confident leader. When he took the field he didn’t blink it was balls to the wall. But this guys is out of sorts he’s guessing he’s tentative and slow at the trigger.
Sit him down and play anybody with some balls to get the job done even if he can’t you have to have a guy who firmly believes he’s the only guy to get that job done. Plunkett had lost most of his natural ability but he was one fierce competitor. No one could out compete Plunkett every down was like it was his last. I’ll take a guy like that anyday over a talented guy who’s guessing.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
So who’s our QB this week, fellas?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
this was not a shoot out, it was a field position game if he makes 2 throws the flea flicker and the deep 9 route this is a blowout 24-3.
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I agree. Folks want to blame the defense but our offensive sputtering gave Gore way too many opportunities. Tough to hold a guy like him down for long.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I would love to see Boller because I think he’s just hungry enough to want to let it all hang out and go for it. If he gets his chance one thing I know he wont do is do it half hearted. He’s going to try to make a statement to the coaches that he belongs. And right now we need a guy with some talent and fire in his belly to take on anything to prove himself.
That kid (Boller) opened my eyes this preseason he can throw it and he’s biult for this system. Now I’m not sure about his timing with the rec. but I know he wont be tentative even if he throws a pick. Once Campbell threw that pick he went into a shell. Great QB’s don’t do that.
As far as Grads I know what he has to offer and I know he can win games that’s not an issue but he’s no longterm answer IMO if Boller plays as well as Grads with his talent we may have something worth keeping.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Can anyone name the team Plunkett played for in college?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Stanford
October 19th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
739.priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Stanford
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Name the team.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Stanford Indians
October 19th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
738.IslandRaider Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Can anyone name the team Plunkett played for in college?
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Austin Peay ?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
741.priesttj Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Stanford Indians
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Very good. It’s a great trivia question. Used to watch him play there.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Stanford Indians? Thought it was Cardinal. Was it Indians back then?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Priest did name the team Stanford
October 19th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Man I saw Plunkett play 20 times in college he had a WR named Randy Vataha and a RB named Jackie Brown the defense was the Thunder Chickens. They used to have a Indian as a mascot.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I agree. I’d like to see what Boller has to offer.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Used to watch John Brodie smoke ciggarettes during breaks at practice when you could sit on a 3 foot fence all day. That was in Redwood City.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I think most of the 7g Raiders smoked cigs. I know Freddie B. did, and I think Stabler did also.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I meant 76 Raiders.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Plunkett won a Heisman and a Rose Bowl. Plunkett is a good story.
Didn’t the Raiders at one time (never made past pre-season) have 4 Heismans on the team? I beleive Plunk was cut prior to the season.
Bo, Allen, T. Brown and Plunk.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Yeah they did and Marc Wilson ended up starting I believe. But Plunkett was so good I cna’t even imagine how good he would’ve been had he gone to a good team as a rookie and had sme help. But he went to a team with nothing and he was brutalized for 3 years. It took him 4 years to get something back mainly confidence. He was so competitive to a fault. When he finally got to a good team he won 2 SB’s that’s how good he was he should’ve had 5 IMO. He was the best QB I’d ever seen and I still feel that way.
He was Marino and Elway put together.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
749.djohnnyg Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I think most of the 7g Raiders smoked cigs. I know Freddie B. did, and I think Stabler did also.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if those guys had flasks hidden somewhere under the benches during games.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Aight…sooo…..too bad Travis LaBoy didn’t deliver the ultimate knock out blow this past week to the slug Campbell so Monkey AL would have to place the reincarnation of Jim Plunkett on the IR….hmmm…..lost for the season….how sad,lol.
K…..sooo…here we go…”Ode to Alzheimers AL” (please sing this to the theme song of the Beverly Hillbillies):
Come ‘n listen to my story ’bout Alzheimers AL
A shadow of himself, at the moon he would howl,
And then one day, dreamin of days gone by
Orange Drank appeared causing AL to sigh,
JaDumbarse, that is, black gold, BamaBoy…
Well, the first thing you know, AL’s 2 and 14
Nother seasons gone by, AL still has a dream,
Told ole Lance Californy is a place you ought’nt be
So Lance loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee
Hollywood..vertical attack, man-on-man, 1976…..
So AL’s still thinkin its 1969, vertical attack a game for fools,
Superbowl is loomin everyone says “Cool!”
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole
Well, now it’s time to say goodbye to AL and all his kin,
AL would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin’ in
Insanity and alzheimers, superbowls and gin.
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of AL’s hospitality
Dementia, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Y’all come back now, hear?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Excellent observation. Cable prepared the team as if the possibility of actually kicking some a$$ and winning big wasn’t even a possibility. He said “This game will be decided in the fourth quarter”. What an inspirational motivator he is.
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Yeah, I noticed that too.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Mistic is playing a game with you guys. He’s saying all of this outrageous pro Al Davis stuff to get under everyone’s skin.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
If Mistic is willing to throw me softballs, I’ll demonstrate a smooth swing for those who want better.
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October 19th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Who is the real Oakglenn?
Mistic or RAider debo?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
It really doesn’t matter.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
I believe the Raiders have always been a reflection of Al. To this day. When the Raiders were great, Al was in his prime. He was a maverick, a shark, a wheeler/dealer, innovative and on and on.
The Raiders today are Al too. He’s not as sharp and fast as he once was, but still wants to win, only the game has changed and he hasn’t adjusted to the point of deligating what he needs to be deligated.
The players he once had all reflected him. I’m not so sure todays players do, but he still reflects on them. Only they are of a different mold.
While I get angry at the losses and think I see it for what it is, I cannot wish him any ill will. I just wish he’d delagate and sit back and enjoy the show.
Sometimes I crack jokes about this team, but that is a matter of survival instincts, because if I didn’t, I’d go crazy with the performance of this club, depressed and all that, let alone in my social circles. They are all hawk fans and they make me sick.
Gone are the days of slamming pitchers of beer on the table, puking in corners, arguing, etc.
It does baffle me how they have never recovered tho from the SB loss. Maybe that says something about Al.
But I always feel they will turn it around. Just can’t say when.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
If Al Davis, if he had any grace, would have done what’s best for the franchise, instead of his ego.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
761.KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
If Al Davis, if he had any grace, would have done what’s best for the franchise, instead of his ego.
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It is what it is I guess. But I’m sure in Als’ mind he is doing what he thinks is best. And it has to be boiling in him, because on paper, this is not a bad team. Just overpaid.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
At 81 years old, he knows damned well he needs to retire, for the good of the Raiders.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
At 81 years old, 31-87, he knows damned well he needs to retire for the good of the Raiders.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
763.KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
At 81 years old, he knows damned well he needs to retire, for the good of the Raiders.
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And I will agree with you. However, ‘in his mind’ I do not think he thinks he needs to retire. I just wish he would realize he needs competent help, a gm for example, pay a bona-fide coach to come in, and it seems life would be easier for him, instead of ‘this’.
If you are an employer, your are only as good as the personell you hire. That to me is where the problem lies.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
KK It’s 11:58pm you should’ve retired at least 2 hrs ago. Ni!te nite
October 20th, 2010 at 12:01 am
31-87 is pretty plain, that you need help. If not he’s delusional.
Hiring a GM and Coach? sure, all for it.
Gnite IslandRaider.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Have you guy’s ever been told you don’t know what you’re doing by a 16 year old?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:09 am
So whos the douche who called Al Davis the scum of the Earth?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Well if you stop and think for a second you’re asking a man who’s done this all his life and been extremely successful at it. That you need to retire you don’t know what you’re doing. Anyone with any sense of pride and dignity would tell you to go to Hell.
His mind is sharp and he has a ton of fire and will also he has hired the staff HE wants to work with. This is not a prly put together team it just needs a QB that’s got it IMHO. So t tell himm he cannot do it when he’s doing it. Just doesn’t compute to him nor anyone who would be in his shoes. this team IMO is a QB away from being very competitive.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:13 am
768.priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Have you guy’s ever been told you don’t know what you’re doing by a 16 year old?
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Not telling him anything what to do (just wishin), kind of like how you want Vick, just wishin.
Now, if I was driving down the middle of the road and then started heading for the ditch, I would most certainly expect someone to tell me what to do.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:23 am
His life aint in danger, he’s doing what he’s been doing for a lifetime. He can do it in his sleep. The man eats and drinks and lives football 24/7 365 he knows what’s on any team in this league and he knows what it takes to get it.
This is a very young team that’s short on leadership and confidence he knows that and he’s trying to get it. He went traded for a guy he thought needed an opportunity well you saw what that guy did in return. If he can get a QB worth a damn this team can win NOW. Now how can you tell him he’s driving toward a ditch unless you’re stupid. He rebiult this team from the ground up yes it still needs talent in sme areas but t say he’s driving toward a ditch is stupid.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:28 am
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Jason Campbell Adds His Name to Long List of Failed Quarterbacks in Oakland
by Jake Safane on Sep 23, 2010 2:23:54 PM
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Jason Campbell should have listened to Confucius.
The ancient Chinese philosopher once said, “Study the past if you would divine the future.” Had the fifth-year pro looked into the recent history of the Oakland Raiders, he most likely would not have signed a two-year deal and wound up in a quarterback controversy with Bruce Gradkowski.
Over the last half of the decade, Oakland has been the place where all castoffs are welcome. Since Rich Gannon played his last game in Week 4 of 2004, no quarterback has been able to succeed.
Kerry Collins became the first of the failed experiments when he angrily left New York after the Giants drafted Eli Manning in ‘04. Collins filled in once Gannon went down, but during his two years in Oakland, he went 7-21, got benched for two games in 2005 and the Raiders cut him after two disappointing seasons. His numbers actually aligned closely with his career averages, but his time with Oakland showed that Collins can’t do much with a bad team other than rack up yards and throw interceptions.
While the Collins era was only mildly disappointing, Aaron Brooks stepped in next and really got the ball rolling for the failing quarterback trend. During his time in New Orleans, Brooks performed well, making plays with his arm and legs, and he led the Saints to their first playoff victory in franchise history. However, he struggled his last few seasons with the Saints to the point of getting benched in favor of Todd Bouman to close the 2005 season.
Alas, the Raiders never picked up on Brooks’ regression. He played in only eight games for Oakland in 2006 and passed for 1,105 yards with three touchdowns and eight interceptions. The Raiders went 2-14 that season and cut Brooks, who subsequently retired.
Next in line came the combo of Josh McCown and Daunte Culpepper in 2007. McCown came to the Raiders after never living up to his potential with the Cardinals and a year with the Lions, while Culpepper tried to revive his career after a failed attempt with the Dolphins. McCown opened the season as the starter, but the two went back and forth due to injury. Unfortunately, neither could muster up much magic, and the Raiders endured a 4-12 year.
In 2008 and 2009, the Raiders didn’t bring in any big name free agents, but instead went primarily with first overall pick JaMarcus Russell, whose hype turned out to be much bigger than his gut. Again, the Raiders went through losing seasons, going 5-11 both years.
Which brings us to this season, when the Raiders needed to find a new quarterback after Russell ended up in legal trouble. The Redskins acquired Donovan McNabb from the Eagles, which meant that the underperforming Campbell would either be the backup or shipped out of town. On draft day, the Raiders opened up their arms and wallets and made Campbell the franchise quarterback.
And surprise, surprise, Campbell is already struggling in Oakland. He already has been benched in favor of Gradkowski for Week 3, and who knows if he’ll ever start another game for the Raiders?
Quarterbacks seem to think they can return to glory in Oakland, yet continue to falter. How did Campbell not see this coming? At the very least, he shouldn’t have signed an extension through 2011.
Or maybe Campbell just doesn’t care about success and wanted the money. But he’s still young, and a few bad seasons in Oakland could really derail his career.
The smarter financial move would have been to take a smaller deal somewhere he has a better shot at winning, and then hope to sign a more lucrative contract after that. Yet by falling into the Raiders’ trap, Campbell will have to endure a painfully long season.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:32 am
I could answer with his record of the last 7 years, but I won’t. Sometimes it takes more than yes men. I know the man is football 24/7/365. And I do hope a good qb appears, but somewhere along the line it just seems with all his football acumen, he could have righted this condition with-in a year or two after the SB loss, instead of taking this long. I’m in his corner, but sometimes it feels like a corner you’ve painted yourself into.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Outside of Collins how have those QB’s fared elsewhere? I think if we can get a legit QB this team can win I’ve seen it too many times to believe otherwise. The last 7 years doesn’t define the history of this organization the way some would have you believe. To many players over the years have come here and had great careers. The list is way to long to name. Campbell is what he is for whatever reason he looks like he’s expecting some help or something. But he needs to do it. Grads has had his best games of his career here Campbell could do the same if he wants to.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:43 am
775.priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Outside of Collins how have those QB’s fared elsewhere? I think if we can get a legit QB this team can win I’ve seen it too many times to believe otherwise. The last 7 years doesn’t define the history of this organization the way some would have you believe. To many players over the years have come here and had great careers. The list is way to long to name. Campbell is what he is for whatever reason he looks like he’s expecting some help or something. But he needs to do it. Grads has had his best games of his career here Campbell could do the same if he wants to.
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Agreed…….Later!
October 20th, 2010 at 2:00 am
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October 20th, 2010 at 2:50 am
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:23 am
His life aint in danger, he’s doing what he’s been doing for a lifetime. He can do it in his sleep. The man eats and drinks and lives football 24/7 365 he knows what’s on any team in this league and he knows what it takes to get it.
This is a very young team that’s short on leadership and confidence he knows that and he’s trying to get it. He went traded for a guy he thought needed an opportunity well you saw what that guy did in return. If he can get a QB worth a damn this team can win NOW. Now how can you tell him he’s driving toward a ditch unless you’re stupid. He rebiult this team from the ground up yes it still needs talent in sme areas but t say he’s driving toward a ditch is stupid.
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agreed, team is loaded with ATHLETES and TALENTED PLAYERS, this team with a pro bowl QB would get us to the playoffs no doubt in my mind…
October 20th, 2010 at 4:20 am
I’m not so sure about Al Davis being “sharp” and that he knows what he’s doing. If he did know what he’s doing, than we wouldn’t be sitting at 2-4 and facing what I think is an obvious result: another double digit loss season. You ever meet an 81 yr. old? How many of them are “sharp”. Sharp enuff to run a complicated business like an NFL franchise? C’mon. At 81 he’s competing with younger, sharper minds who DO know what they are doing, and he is actually the acting GM? At 81 yrs. old?
I’m into RESULTS myself. And results show he doesn’t know what he is doing or else they wouldn’t be this bad, plain and simple.
If he REALLY knew football still, than he should have known JC was NOT a good QB. Al should’ve watched film and realized this but all tooo often he gets duped by younger, sharper minds.
Al may have had it in the past and I used to really respect and love the guy, but as they say “pride comes before a fall” and THAT is Al Davis. ..Plus…he’s too old.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:49 am
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by Jake Safane on Sep 23, 2010 2:23:54 PM
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Jason Campbell should have listened to Confucius.
The ancient Chinese philosopher once said, “Study the past if you would divine the future.” Had the fifth-year pro looked into the recent history of the Oakland Raiders, he most likely would not have signed a two-year deal and wound up in a quarterback controversy with Bruce Gradkowski.
Over the last half of the decade, Oakland has been the place where all castoffs are welcome. Since Rich Gannon played his last game in Week 4 of 2004, no quarterback has been able to succeed.
Kerry Collins became the first of the failed experiments when he angrily left New York after the Giants drafted Eli Manning in ‘04. Collins filled in once Gannon went down, but during his two years in Oakland, he went 7-21, got benched for two games in 2005 and the Raiders cut him after two disappointing seasons. His numbers actually aligned closely with his career averages, but his time with Oakland showed that Collins can’t do much with a bad team other than rack up yards and throw interceptions.
While the Collins era was only mildly disappointing, Aaron Brooks stepped in next and really got the ball rolling for the failing quarterback trend. During his time in New Orleans, Brooks performed well, making plays with his arm and legs, and he led the Saints to their first playoff victory in franchise history. However, he struggled his last few seasons with the Saints to the point of getting benched in favor of Todd Bouman to close the 2005 season.
Alas, the Raiders never picked up on Brooks’ regression. He played in only eight games for Oakland in 2006 and passed for 1,105 yards with three touchdowns and eight interceptions. The Raiders went 2-14 that season and cut Brooks, who subsequently retired.
Next in line came the combo of Josh McCown and Daunte Culpepper in 2007. McCown came to the Raiders after never living up to his potential with the Cardinals and a year with the Lions, while Culpepper tried to revive his career after a failed attempt with the Dolphins. McCown opened the season as the starter, but the two went back and forth due to injury. Unfortunately, neither could muster up much magic, and the Raiders endured a 4-12 year.
In 2008 and 2009, the Raiders didn’t bring in any big name free agents, but instead went primarily with first overall pick JaMarcus Russell, whose hype turned out to be much bigger than his gut. Again, the Raiders went through losing seasons, going 5-11 both years.
Which brings us to this season, when the Raiders needed to find a new quarterback after Russell ended up in legal trouble. The Redskins acquired Donovan McNabb from the Eagles, which meant that the underperforming Campbell would either be the backup or shipped out of town. On draft day, the Raiders opened up their arms and wallets and made Campbell the franchise quarterback.
And surprise, surprise, Campbell is already struggling in Oakland. He already has been benched in favor of Gradkowski for Week 3, and who knows if he’ll ever start another game for the Raiders?
Quarterbacks seem to think they can return to glory in Oakland, yet continue to falter. How did Campbell not see this coming? At the very least, he shouldn’t have signed an extension through 2011.
Or maybe Campbell just doesn’t care about success and wanted the money. But he’s still young, and a few bad seasons in Oakland could really derail his career.
The smarter financial move would have been to take a smaller deal somewhere he has a better shot at winning, and then hope to sign a more lucrative contract after that. Yet by falling into the Raiders’ trap, Campbell will have to endure a painfully long season.
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Article had me till the last 3 paragraphs.
The author suggests that the Raiders derailed the promising career of Jason Campbell. False. This is the same Jason Campbell who’s selling price on the trade market was a 4th-round draft pick two drafts after the one during which the deal was made. Meanwhile there were several teams with unsettled QB positions that said ‘no thanks.’
I think the real moral of the story is not that the Raiders damaged these QBs, it’s that it’s damn hard to find a franchise QB and Campbell, nor any of these guys, was capable of being one by the time they got to Oakland. And in today’s NFL, you can’t really win without one. Where were the Packers, Colts, Patriots and Saints before they lucked into Favre, Manning, Brady and Brees. Where were the Chargers before Brees/Rivers. Those were bottom of the barrel teams until those guys came along.
The fact is that since Gannon we’ve struggled to find our guy. We’ve had a few draft picks — JaMarcus, Tui, Walter — who never panned out. We’ve had some reclamation projects — Campbell, Brooks, Culpepper –that haven’t worked. And we’ve taken a flier on McCown, who struggled, and another on Bruce “Almighty” Gradkowski, who just might be the answer if he can stay healthy.
Bottom line: it’s these QBs that are killing Oakland the last 8 years and not the other way around.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Good Morning Nation!!! Not much really to say but…Kyle Boller to start in Denver…well, lets see what he got…
October 20th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Listen, there’s no denying Al has screwed up royally and is responsible for the dismal state of the Raiders.
His drafts have been terrible. The whiffs in the first round have been pathetic.
I mean, JaMoron, Gallery, Huff…busts extraodinaire !
He’s traded for absolute garbage…JaJason and MeAngelo.
Free Agency ? Also pathetic. Javon Walker ? Give me a break please.
And when he did trade for a top notch talent like Moss, even that didn’t work out and he wound up getting a 4th rd pick in return.
Let’s face it, there is absolutely NO WAY any franchise could overcome the disastrous multitude of mistakes that Mr. Davis has made and that’s why the Raids are struggling to even be COMPETITIVE.
That being said, I’m a Davis loyalist. Why ? Because I’ve been a Raider fan for over 30 years and will always treasure the glory years and great teams. Some people argue Davis wasn’t responsible for assembling those great teams. They like to give Ron Wolf the credit, and surely he deserves alot of credit. But in the final analysis Davis was the captain of the great Raider ship, and I’ll never throw him under the bus, even if that great Raider ship has morphed into the S.S. Titanic.
Nope, I’m sticking with the Raiders and Al Davis. Through thick and thin.
The old man is in a horrible slump, and there’s plenty of reason to doubt he’s going to come out of it. I mean, if he thought JaJason could be another Plunk, then he’s not instilling confidence that he can judge talent at all any longer.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:08 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.GET YOUR ARM WARM’D UP,HWNRDR,STUDY THE PLAY BOOK,U MAY B STARTING AGAINST SEATTLE ON HOLLOWEEN..
October 20th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Ok, Brett Favre and I are the same age…unfortunately, I cannot throw the ball that darn far anymore…
Oh wait, no one needs to, right? Just throw it to the back of the defender, miss a wide open wr, and just throw a 3 yd dump off to the dirt…
October 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
http://www.raiderimage.com/4026050501.html
Click that link. Read the first sentence of the product description. Try not to spill your coffee laughing. Someone needs to update the store.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:24 am
HEY,NO MORE “DIRT” REFERENCES….BETTER WORK ON THE CARDIO ALSO,U WILL B RUNNING 4 YOUR LIFE MOST OF THE TIME..
October 20th, 2010 at 6:29 am
Haha…sorry about that…
October 20th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Just throw it to the back of the defender, miss a wide open wr, and just throw a 3 yd dump off to the dirt…
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You’re JaMarcus Russell?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Apparently JC also…
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Just throw it to the back of the defender, miss a wide open wr, and just throw a 3 yd dump off to the dirt…
+++++++++++++++
You’re JaMarcus Russell?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Now, a few comments on the 2010 Raiders…
I realize I’m about the only poster on this board that thinks Bruce Gradkowski is the long term answer and a franchise QB.
I’ll accept the ridicule over that belief.
What is clear is that he’s the only hope the Raids have to win this year. JaJason, despite a respectable showing against S.D. is a dog with fleas. If the Raids are going to score points and be competitive, then it rests on Grads. Sorry, but I saw enough of Boller with Baltimore to know he can’t get it done behind this offensive line either. Better than Campbell, but still, another bottom tier QB.
Ironic that a scrub like Campbell slides 2 yards short of a first down, driving all Raider fans crazy and making them sick, and the QB that actually gives us hope to score and win, refuses to slide and busts his shoulder up, maybe ending the 2010 Raider season.
Ah well. That’s life.
Better hope Grads is ready to go this week. Because without him, we’re looking at zero passing and offensive production and a 20 point blow out.
And one more thing, Mr Marshall, I’ve never seen so much confusion in a secondary asked to play zone in my entire life. Better get your act together or just go 100% man to man. Either you can’t coach or the players are too dumb to learn, but whatever the case, the constant blown coverages and confusion can not be tolerated. Orten is going to be throwing those slants and outs all day Sunday, get the secondary ready.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:51 am
I’ve never seen so much confusion in a secondary either. It’s weird as hll.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Yup, seen Branch’s face after that Craparse TD…wow!
October 20th, 2010 at 7:01 am
Been a while but…..
Good morning all.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Works changed my shifts again so I missed the game.Was it as bad as it sounds?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Good Morning Neilb…
Yup! JC couldn’t sniff out the endzone that day even if he was a German sheppard!
October 20th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Start Boller.
No more Campbells chicken soup.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Morning Hwnrdr….
Is it true we messed up again in the red zone?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:10 am
796. cambell only has 3 starts in oakland. russell had 25 kirk
October 20th, 2010 at 7:12 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Now, a few comments on the 2010 Raiders…
I realize I’m about the only poster on this board that thinks Bruce Gradkowski is the long term answer and a franchise QB.
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I agree. I think Grads can be the long-term answer.
Don’t forget, this is a guy from the fabled Western PA high school football territory (Marino, Montana, Namath and others) who broke Dan Marino’s conference records. It’s a guy who is getting us about 25 ppg compared to JaCampbell’s 10 (which is on par with JaMarcus). It’s a guy who is getting his first non-rookie season shot with us and has been impressive just about every time out whether preseason or reg season. It’s a guy who gets receivers involved and extends plays and is really the only guy to consistently move the chains through the air since Gannon.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:13 am
if we start bruce g instead of jason c we will win 6 games not 5 and miss out on a top 40 draft pick
October 20th, 2010 at 7:13 am
SilverNBlackPA’
Even funnier in that link was the JaMarcus Russell #2 Jersey in the lower right hand corner.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:15 am
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 7:13 am
if we start bruce g instead of jason c we will win 6 games not 5 and miss out on a top 40 draft pick
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We don’t have a 1st round pick in the next draft. Gave it to NE for Seymour.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:18 am
802. top 40 means 8 worst teams in football pick in round 2 exlaraid
October 20th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Neil…yes, we messed up in the redzone again…badly!
October 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
We are so screwed…
Blowing it on the JR pick has set us back ANOTHER 7 years…Al may not live long enough to see the end of this…old man is trying to repair a hole in his boat by filling it with gold…what a long strange trip…
October 20th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Why is everyone so down on JaMarcus ? He’s a great player.Get over it.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:28 am
……makes you wonder what Bruce throwing to Calvin Johnson would do for the Raiders……..
October 20th, 2010 at 7:30 am
only the bills browns cowboys lions panthers and 49ers have a worst record than we do at this point. were tied for the 7th worst team in football
October 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
- The offensive play calling has been horrible.
- The defensive play calling has been almost horrible.
- On the last drive last week although Campbell played terribly he did hit Ford right between the numbers only to have the ball clank off of his chest like a Shaq free throw off of the rim.
- Back to the play-calling, the Raiders red zone performance is a prime example of the poor play calls. Running the ball 3 times in a row (the same play twice) against the strength of the 9ers, c’mon man.
- Not one attempt to Zach Miller (your best receiver) in the red zone is some major bull.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Morning men…
Do you guys think the DMac stuff is smoke and mirrors… About 2 hours before Kickoff, KHTK was reporting that DMac would indeed play in the 49er game… Obviously he didn’t… Two weeks ago, Cable said this injury wasn’t as bad as the other that sidelined him for 3 weeks…. So which is it? Does he play?
Please advise on any MM34 news… Was he injured Sunday or not? Eugene played the last 5-6 minutes, no sign of MM34.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:40 am
809
I agree, the playcalling was a bit mystifying, however IMO, it was all due to a lack of confidence in Campbell… When you’re running draws on 3rd and 6, that tells me, you do not have confidence in giving the QB the ball….. I don’t blame Hue a bit.. JC has looked like the worst QB ever.. Would you have confidence in him? Do you now have confidence in him?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Time for me to go.
It’s Wednesday so that means pasta for dinner.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:47 am
810. cable does the injury report updates on wednesdays so you should know about mcfadden and mitchell later today neweng
October 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Think you’ve had rough day….?
One of the rescued Chilean miners just realised he didn’t clock in…!!
October 20th, 2010 at 7:59 am
# neilb Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Why is everyone so down on JaMarcus ? He’s a great player.Get over it.
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Bwahahhaahahha
October 20th, 2010 at 8:08 am
791.Kirk Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:51 am
I’ve never seen so much confusion in a secondary either. It’s weird as hll.
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Garbage coaches and players = garbage product
October 20th, 2010 at 8:11 am
we fly high, no lie, you know this…BOLLER!!!!!
please…anything but Campbell.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Dakota Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:08 am
791.Kirk Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:51 am
I’ve never seen so much confusion in a secondary either. It’s weird as hll.
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Garbage coaches and players = garbage product
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and Cable basically admitted they have been burnt everytime they run zone….but….do they stop? of course not….
October 20th, 2010 at 8:13 am
I doesnt make much sense to alter the play calling for Campbell. He executed the playbook flawlessly against SD, why didnt they stick to that script? Why would you try and cram it down the throat of one of the better run defenses, why would you NOT make any adjustments when Bush was unable to move the ball and Campbell hadnt completed a pass in 2 QUARTERS! Its all on the coaches.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:22 am
I think the Defense is a DT away from being a decent squad.
Offense however, needs major work. The O-line is bad, WRs are bad, and QBs are bad.
Another good offseason and draft concentrating on the offense before this team is ready to make a move.
8-8 or 7-9 would be a huge step for this team and would get them ready for next year.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Browns signed WR Yamon Figurs and OL Paul McQuistan according to Raidersblog on twitter
October 20th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Morning peoples!
Raider75,
So you think our safeties are any good?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:27 am
TO has 31 catches for 476 yards this season, which puts him on pace to finish the season with 99 catches for 1,523 yards.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:28 am
811
- I think that it goes both ways the coaching staff doesn’t quite know what to do with Campbell and Campbell really doesn’t have any confidence in his teamates or the coaches at this point.
- It’s hard to really judge anything at this point, The play calling is more than suspect, the o-line personnel aren’t helping (maybe a couple of them are playing the wrong position), and the receivers are questionable at best.
- I by no means support poor play by anyone, but I do recognize that takes the whole unit (players and coaches) doing their jobs making good decisions to win a game.
- It’s obvious from watching the games that Campbell is not confident in his knowledge of the play book so combine that with all of the things that I mentioned above and you get a weak offense. Also with the current state of the o-line I think the Raiders would be best served with more mobile QBs.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:28 am
# neilb Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 7:28 am
……makes you wonder what Bruce throwing to Calvin Johnson would do for the Raiders……..
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That would of been nice.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Remember that Campbell had no idea he would be playing against SD. San Diego game planned for Gradkowski. He did not have a week to worry and suffer ball shrinkage.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:30 am
# DMAC Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Morning peoples!
Raider75,
So you think our safeties are any good?
………..
They are inconsistent. They show flashes, but then f’k up at the worst time.
The Safeties get exposed a lot due to lack of pressure on the QB from the front 4 as well.
I just said they would be DECENT, not great, but good enough.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:34 am
# Raider75 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:30 am
# DMAC Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Morning peoples!
Raider75,
So you think our safeties are any good?
………..
They are inconsistent. They show flashes, but then f’k up at the worst time.
The Safeties get exposed a lot due to lack of pressure on the QB from the front 4 as well.
I just said they would be DECENT, not great, but good enough.
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I think its time to see what these young guys have to offer.
Branch has played worst than Huff.
MM should be on the field more often. (has played solid)
CJ is pretty washed up….(Ware or Mcfadden should replace him)
October 20th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Our safeties consistantly get caught cheating up to the line, be it on runs or play action. They need to be trained to cover their area and stay there! If Gore busts through the line and Branch is where he is supposed to be thats a 12-18 yard run instead of a 64 yd run. If Huff and Branch BOTH dont bite on the Alex Smith roll out they dont leave vernon davis WIDE OPEN for a TD.
If you consistantly try to do someone elses job, you leave no one to do your own. If all 11 men on our Defense do what their assignment calls for in any given play, then we dont get torched for big play after big play.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:47 am
A little old guy is walking around in a supermarket calling out, Crisco,
Crissssssscoooo!’
Soon an assistant manager approaches and says, ‘Sir, the Crisco is in aisle 3.’
The old guy replies, ‘Oh, I’m not looking for the cooking stuff. I’m calling my wife. She’s in here somewhere’
The clerk is astonished.
‘Your wife’s name is Crisco?’
The old guy answers, ‘Oh no, no, no. I only call her that when we’re out in public.’
‘I see,’ said the clerk.
‘What do you call her at home?’
‘Lard ass’
October 20th, 2010 at 8:52 am
G… Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
… – On the last drive last week although Campbell played terribly he did hit Ford right between the numbers only to have the ball clank off of his chest like a Shaq free throw off of the rim. …
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True. Awful job by the rookie on that play, but come on, the offense wasn’t going anywhere all day. That would’ve been another one of Campbell’s patented 2-yard pass plays and there was nothing to suggest we’d score, convert a 2-point conversion and win it in OT at that point.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I think the Defense is a DT away from being a decent squad.
Offense however, needs major work. The O-line is bad, WRs are bad, and QBs are bad.
Another good offseason and draft concentrating on the offense before this team is ready to make a move.
8-8 or 7-9 would be a huge step for this team and would get them ready for next year.
I beleive we actually have the talent to win. Shaughnessey Seymour Kelly and Houston Wimbley Mcclain and Scott is a front seven designed to stop the run and get a pass rush Nnamdi and Routt are solid and Huff is a good cover corner Mitchell good in the box. Our oline looked good, yes good against the pass rush of the 9ers and we have had a 100 yard runner in every game except for the 9ers. Bush and Mcfadden is as good a 1 – 2 as any in the league Reece is as a good a fullback out of the backfield as any Miller is a stud TE and our DHB/Murphy Duo have a lot of growing to do but look formidable with Bruce at the healm. Talent wise the only question is Bruce staying healthy and if he stays healthy is he really good enough for a whole season or just for flashes? The real problem is every organization needs change to keep things fresh especially when things aren’t going well and although I love him, Al needs to get a GM because these 8 years have resulted in a culture of losing similar to the Clippers where regardless of the talent level as Marty Schottenheimer said, if you keep the game close against us we’ll lose, because it’s old habit. Organizations need fresh blood, fresh ideas. Even the Cowboys will continue to struggle if Jerry Jones continues to exert so much control and he actually hires GM’s. The iron fist with which Al leads results in no reputable coaches wanting to come here. Shoot Hue Jackson coming here was a surprise.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:01 am
No Pass Rush
No Pass Blocking
In a passing league.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:01 am
The idea that Campbell was lights out in the SD game is another myth. The reality is the D/special teams/offense with Grads scored 19 pts to the offense’s 16.
Campbell threw for 159 yards and 1 TD in that game. He was sacked 3 times and fumbled once. He ran 4 times for 7 yards. He completed one pass downfield to a WR.
He entered the game with a 12-point lead. We won by 8 points.
He managed the game well and helped us win behind a strong running game and several big plays by the D/special teams.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:05 am
JaPuke couldnt win in Wash surrounded by probowlers. How is he going to win here? He’ll never win. After we cut him and we will in the offseason, He’s going to be playing for the league min on someone else’s roster as a backup. My guess right now is the Panthers.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:17 am
823.Raider75 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:27 am
TO has 31 catches for 476 yards this season, which puts him on pace to finish the season with 99 catches for 1,523 yards.
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How many SEASONS will it take DHB to get to 99 catches and 1,523 yards?
lol
October 20th, 2010 at 9:19 am
1- Hire a new coaching staff.
2- Get a real QB who can avg more than 50% cmp, and he needs to know how to read a Defense.
3- we need to add a DT/ NT.
4- we need to improve our OL.
5- we need to fix the WR situation. We need a vet who can make plays.
6- we need a blocking FB, and we should keep Reece.
7- we need another CB. Routt & CJ are done.
8- we need to add a blocking TE.
Fire Cable Now!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Is Jerry on vacation? No post re: JaJason’s meniscus?
October 20th, 2010 at 9:22 am
We could have drafted DHB in the 2nd RD, and drafted an OT in the 1st.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Start MM at SS!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:28 am
At least we can always count on the Ohio Browns to make us look good by comparison. They just signed Yamon Figurs AND Paul McQuistan!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/20/browns-lose-pashos-smith-sign-figurs-mcquistan/
October 20th, 2010 at 9:36 am
KoolKell Says:
October 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Priestj, Norco Bob, Brien the Whatever, HazeDazey, Mistic: All Davis worshipers, all unconcerned about losing:
“Great Day to be a Raiders Fan, eh”
“I go to every game to get high and drunk”
“The last 7 years haven’t been that bad”
“So the Raiders lost, what are you whining about”
“DHB reminds me of Jerry Rice”
^^^^^^^^
The weak links of the Raider Nation.
Accepting LOSING is a LOSERS mentality!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:39 am
IMO:
- Branch needs to compete with Huff at FS, and start/ give MM more playing time at SS. Cut Eugene, and make S Brown the backup SS, and the 4th S on the roster. We don’t need 5 Ss.
- Move L Walker to RG, and let Campbell play RT. The freakish athlete is playing G, and we have a need at both T positions?!? Makes no sense to me.
- Use Reece as a TE like D Clark and Chris Cooley. Him and Z Miller can catch the ball, and they can take presure off our young WRs, and help our QBs.
- Our Base D should be (when Henderson is healthy):
LDE: Seymour/ Houston
DT: Henderson
DT: TK/ Houston
RDE: Matt S
Or
LDE: Houston
DT: Henderson
DT: Seymour
RDE: Matt S
October 20th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Campbell did have a respectable game against S.D. Overall, he did a good job managing the game. 2 long drives and no turnovers. Props to him for that…
BUT
There was still one series in that game where the Raids called a time out, Campbell comes back out on the field after the time out, comes to the line, and something is wrong, play clock is winding down to zero, here comes ANOTHER time out — except he isn’t allowed to call another time out ! Miraculously, the Raids aren’t penalized for delay of game as the officials have a brain cramp and allow the Raids a ‘do over’. So much for stellar ‘game management’.
Not the first or only time there’s been inexcusable confusion getting a play off. The most notable being Grads not bailing Hue Jackson out in AZ by calling a time out when the play was late and a prudent time out probably nets the Raids 4 more points and a win.
One other thing I’D like to mention about the game in SF. I missed the opening series when SF attempted to challenge an unchallengable call. From what I understand the Raids got screwed on that one.
But besides that, the trend of the Raids getting some favorable calls continued or the result could have been worse.
Case in point…the intentional grounding call against SF…this was dubious at best. No doubt Smith was throwing the ball away and there really wasn’t a rcvr in the area but this appeared due to a miscommunication between the QB and WR, and I’ve seen far more egregious groundings go uncalled.
Another very questionable call that went the Raids way occurred later when JaJason was sacked for what looked like an obvious SAFETY. But nope, the refs place the ball on the one inch line. Thought it should have been a safety watching the play in real time, still thought it was a safety after watching it on the replay. Surprised Singletary didn’t challenge that one.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:45 am
How many SEASONS will it take DHB to get to 99 catches and 1,523 yards?
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Those are greater than his career numbers will be!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Knight,..lol…thanks Im flattered you stole my line referring to you and old man kell and mamas boy mr as the weak link,…which you are,…as you know,…but Im at every game, as you know, as is brian,…as are the Raider Nation,..while losers like you, and the “fans” above, hang in a Raiders blog and cry,…you are what you are Knight, a crybaby,..Im at every game,..come say hi sometime,..A lot,…Im always there,..have a good day crybaby.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Are you guys going to let Mistic bait you to death today? Probably so. It’s so easy for him. He just says all of these ridiculously delusional things about how in control Al and the Raiders are, and you guys bite every time, trying to respond to him by telling him how crazy he is, and giving him more than sufficient examples to make your case. Doesn’t matter. He just keeps going. He’s playing you guys.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Bob, why didn’t you go to the Niner/Raider game? I saw Brien.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:47 am
My girlfriend is into role playing. She comes home in the evening, dresses up just like herself & acts like a b!tch!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Oh,..I was told old man kell was here for over 14 hours yesterday,..didnt believe it so went back and checked,..wow,..hard to imagine a 60 year old man can spend that much time snivlin about al davis,..lol…I happen to know some people in that RE office in Alameda,..they find his behavior very disturbing,…I find it hilarious.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:48 am
No you didnt MR,..we got a laugh at your attempt though,..but no,..you didnt…lol.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Al needs to retire. He already hired a good coaching staff. Hired Gruden in ‘98. By 2000 Al was running him out, drafting kickers in the first round, to let him know who’s boss. He’s determined to not let another Gruden happen anyway. That’s why the Kiffin thing went down the toilet so fast. Al can hire a good coach today. Kiffin all over again.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:49 am
RaiderTW Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 9:47 am
My girlfriend is into role playing. She comes home in the evening, dresses up just like herself & acts like a b!tch!
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Sooooo Frickin Funnyyyyyy!!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Gotta run,..heading to Red Hawk,…meet me there MR,..have a couple bloody marys,…goin to Ice House later today,..cya.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Bob, I asked Brien what kind of car he was in, without having ever said what kind it was. He described it, right down to the bumper. So, it’s one helluva coincidence then.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Lol,..as I said MR,..we got a laugh at your attempt,..what do you call it?…baiting?…nice try though,…anyway,..Red Hawk dude…I have 2 for 1 drink tokens!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:53 am
LOL. Alright, Bob. All I know is this. I ask Brien what kind of car he was in. Couldn’t think of a better litmus test. I hadn’t described the car at all. He describes it right to a “t”. So what’s up with that? Color, make, model, whole 9. So, at the very least, whoever posts as “Brien” on this blog was in that car at the tailgate on Jamestown street.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:54 am
How can a pro defense not be able to run a freakin zone??
LAME!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:56 am
DKnight, that’s part of it. It’s just the overall atmosphere. Coaches have no control. Players come here knowing they don’t have to work. The only ones who do are the ones who are either driven to succeed or the ones who really want to be in this league a long time. You’d be surprised how many NFL players today are just spoiled brats who don’t see past today. Heck, that attitude had worked for them to this point.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Bill Romanowski to be on the pip squeak, Jim Rome radio show @ 10:30ish A.M. PDT,..
October 20th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I know you couldn’t imagine it, but if you were to have a beer with Mike Shannahan and get him to open up about what things were like behind closed doors at the Raiders, the last thing he’d mention is the coverage shell they use. It’s much bigger than that.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Romo’s mainly going to talk about Goodell’s continued pussifcation of the NFL..
October 20th, 2010 at 10:14 am
And players like Romo are part of the reason for the strict policy. I’d rather them interview a real football player and known hard hitter, like George Atkinson, Ronnie Lott, or Ray Lewis, than some roid freak like Romo who just took out his racist rage on the field. Asking Romo about NFL’s policy on hitting is like asking O.J. what he thinks of murder laws. He’s the reason for the rules.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:17 am
You know I hear you guy’s criticise our players time after time after time. Saying if they were not here they wouldn’t start on any other team in the NFL. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read that crap.
You all say Mr Davis dpoesn’t know talent, then those same players that get roundly criticised by you guy’s go to another team and START.
Gerard Warren must have been vilified in here a thousand times along with Mr Davis not knowing how pick DT’s that can play the run (SnB). I’m watching Gerard Warren play NT for the NE Pat’s right now as a starter but he wasn’t good enough to start here based on the GM’s in here.
Just another example of all tidal wave of BS that goes on in here of which these wannabe GM’s. Now DT’s we have now are the worst in the league they’re the reason we can’t stop the run. Same ol same same ol crap. I’ve been saying for years that you stop the run with your entire defense running to the ball and staying true to the defense (gap control). The most important part of run defense is tackling. Getting the guy on the ground…………period
Your DT’s are just the focal point they aren’t what makes your run defense great, it’s the entire defense. That’s what makes a great run defense.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I thought Gerard Warren sucked at NT well he looks good now.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Former Oakland Raider OL Rich Stephens is challenging a local Missouri police officer to a mixed-martial arts cage match. Stephens, who played for the Oakland Raiders in 1995, claims that police officer Tim Walker kicked and shoved Stephens during a recent arrest. Stephens has placed a large sign on the back of his pick-up which reads, “What is Short, Fat and Round all over? A Byrnes Mills Cop!” Stephens, 6’7″ 315 pounds claims that he wants to sell tickets to the possible MMA event and donate the proceeds to charity. A local television report attached below claims that all local police cars are equipped with dash mounted cameras and unless Stephens files a formal complaint against the police officer, there will be no investigation into the alleged assault.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Goodell sent out notification today to all 32 NFL teams that the rules regarding unecessarily violent, leading with your helmet, and helmet to helmet hits will be vigorously enforced and possibly result in a suspension.
He considered saving the postage and not notifying the Raiders since no one on that defense hits anyways, but changed his mind at the last minute.
Ahh for the good old days when Tatum and Atkinson were a ‘criminal element’ that instilled fear in the opposition and the Raids would be the first team getting Goodell’s notice.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Norco Bob Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Knight,..lol…thanks Im flattered you stole my line referring to you and old man kell and mamas boy mr as the weak link,…which you are,…as you know,…but Im at every game, as you know, as is brian,…as are the Raider Nation,..while losers like you, and the “fans” above, hang in a Raiders blog and cry,…you are what you are Knight, a crybaby,..Im at every game,..come say hi sometime,..A lot,…Im always there,..have a good day crybaby.
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LOL!
Typical LOSER attitude…..just gives a crap about getting drunk and high!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Norco,
Go drink some more and shoot up some more heroin while your at it.
Keep living in your loser land and keep avoiding the reality of your lousy life.
Crybaby drug addict! LOL
October 20th, 2010 at 10:32 am
They made such a ridiculous deal over these hits this weekend.
I didnt see Harrisons hit on Cribbs, but his hit on Massoquoi was legal, not Harrisons fault that the receiver “ducked” into him. He should have been fined for that hit.
Robinsons hit on Jackson was visious and devastating, but not illegal. Robinsons facemask was buried in Jacksons shoulder. He shouldnt be fined.
Meriweathers hit on Heap was dirty and he should have be ejected for it.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Al Davis sucks, Tom Cable sucks, Jason Campbell sucks, Priesst sucks and Norco Bob sucks!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:40 am
870
Exactly… Repped
October 20th, 2010 at 10:42 am
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:17 am
You know I hear you guy’s criticise our players time after time after time. Saying if they were not here they wouldn’t start on any other team in the NFL. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read that crap.
You all say Mr Davis dpoesn’t know talent, then those same players that get roundly criticised by you guy’s go to another team and START.
Gerard Warren must have been vilified in here a thousand times along with Mr Davis not knowing how pick DT’s that can play the run (SnB). I’m watching Gerard Warren play NT for the NE Pat’s right now as a starter but he wasn’t good enough to start here based on the GM’s in here.
Just another example of all tidal wave of BS that goes on in here of which these wannabe GM’s. Now DT’s we have now are the worst in the league they’re the reason we can’t stop the run. Same ol same same ol crap. I’ve been saying for years that you stop the run with your entire defense running to the ball and staying true to the defense (gap control). The most important part of run defense is tackling. Getting the guy on the ground…………period
Your DT’s are just the focal point they aren’t what makes your run defense great, it’s the entire defense. That’s what makes a great run defense.
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There’s some truth to what you say.
Nonetheless, I’m still going to say that Tommy Kelly is a subpar DT getting paid way too much money, and I find it hard to believe he’d start anywhere else.
True that a good pair of DTs won’t guarantee a strong run defense, but it sure is a good place to start when building one.
And while some here are guilty of blasting or underrating Raider players, the reverse is also true.
And guess what Preist ? You’re a prime example. None of the regulars here will ever forget you defending JaMoron to the bitter end and insisting he’d be a great QB.
Who’s JaMoron starting for now ?
October 20th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# DKnight007 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Norco,
Go drink some more and shoot up some more heroin while your at it.
Keep living in your loser land and keep avoiding the reality of your lousy life.
Crybaby drug addict! LOL
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The only ones in here crying are you RMR and KK. Nice crew you got there.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Chris in NY Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:52 am
G… Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
… – On the last drive last week although Campbell played terribly he did hit Ford right between the numbers only to have the ball clank off of his chest like a Shaq free throw off of the rim. …
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True. Awful job by the rookie on that play, but come on, the offense wasn’t going anywhere all day. That would’ve been another one of Campbell’s patented 2-yard pass plays and there was nothing to suggest we’d score, convert a 2-point conversion and win it in OT at that point.
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Also, true. There wasn’t anything to suggest that we’d come back and win but it doesn’t mean that we definitely without a doubt wouldn’t have either. As long as they weren’t getting blown out and were with the ball with time left there’s usually a shot.
Remember that there was nothing going on to suspect that Frank Riech would lead the Bills back from 30+ points down at halftime.