Boller, Campbell and . . . Shane
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 20th, 2010 at 1:06 pm in Oakland Raiders.
As the Raiders went through a walkthrough portion of practice Wednesday before getting serious, Kyle Boller and Jason Campbell were both getting reps with the first team.
Bruce Gradkowski was on hand but a spectator and made no throws. Also working under center was punter Shane Lechler, a high school quarterback and owner of one of the best throwing arms on the team.
The Raiders have not as yet brought in another quarterback.
Running back Darren McFadden went through the walk-through portion splitting reps with Michael Bush, but the plays were at far from the “burst” pace McFadden talked about Monday.
Among those not present were defensive tackle John Henderson (stress fracture), wide receiver Chaz Schilens (knee), linebacker Travis Goethel (lower back), tight end Brandon Myers (concussion) and linebacker Thomas Howard (knee).
More to come following coach Tom Cable’s press briefing . . .
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October 20th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
HairyBush Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Broncos game will be a lot like Charger game. Orton will rip up our pass defense, but the Raiders do enough in all 3 phases of the game to pull out victory and stay alive in AFC west.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
2nd
October 20th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
damn it i want bruce g to start
October 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
bruce g and darren m means wins
October 20th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Cut Chaz Sign anyone who can contibute!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
seasons pretty much done. now we have to see who are the players that can contribute to the future of the team. hope we get to see if macfadden at cb can be a baller for us, hope he heals soon. lets also see if bruce can man the gaurd before the end of the season.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
This is plain stupid and ridiculous. Spend a 100k and sign a backup Qb!
“Also working under center was punter Shane Lechler, a high school quarterback and owner of one of the best throwing arms on the team”
October 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
how can you cut get chaz, if he can stay healthy he is good, and while he heals were only paying him 7th round money, how stupid would it be to see him ball for some one else if we cut him. think hard retard.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
thats the problem with this team, everything is half speed or slower from the start of camp to the season. thats why this team cant tackle, catch, run, block, or get in sync because there always walking through everything. dumbass coach. id be full speed till they learn, i know, i know, they get paid too much to risk it, but half our fn team is on the sideline with injuries anyway.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
i predict veldheer will get the starting qb killed this weekend. we wont get bruce henderson chaz back until after the bye
October 20th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Drexl Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
HairyBush Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Bruce Gradkowski (shoulder) did not participate in Raiders practice Wednesday.
Jason Campbell (knee) and Kyle Boller (ineffective) rotated snaps with the first-team offense. Gradkowski’s inability to participate signals that he is the least likely Raiders quarterback to play in Week 7. Campbell will have to stay healthy throughout the week, but appears to be the early favorite.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
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The confidence the coaching staff have in Boller seems awfully low, if Jajason, slightly injured gets the start after last weeks debacle of a performance.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
LMAO. Lechler at QB.
Couldn’t do worse than Campbell last week.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
da trinity Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
how can you cut get chaz, if he can stay healthy he is good, and while he heals were only paying him 7th round money, how stupid would it be to see him ball for some one else if we cut him. think hard retard.
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I’m going with facts, and the facts are he can’t stay healthy. Take it easy with the name calling there tough guy. Chaz=Arman Sheilds
October 20th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
da trinity Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
how can you cut get chaz, if he can stay healthy he is good, and while he heals were only paying him 7th round money, how stupid would it be to see him ball for some one else if we cut him. think hard.
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Amen.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
10. i think your right. i hope we get the big three back before then tho aig-raid
October 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I don’t know whether to be amused, excited, disheartened, shocked, amazed, or furious by this statement:
“Also working under center was punter Shane Lechler, a high school quarterback and owner of one of the best throwing arms on the team.”
Shane Lechler- QB of the future…
October 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
We’ve already seen Janikowski moonlight as a running back, so why not?
October 20th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
i like chaz. hes a playa when healthy. plz dont play shane at qb. what if he gets hurt. who will punt. jano
October 20th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Drexl Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
# Drexl Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
HairyBush Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Bruce Gradkowski (shoulder) did not participate in Raiders practice Wednesday.
Jason Campbell (knee) and Kyle Boller (ineffective) rotated snaps with the first-team offense. Gradkowski’s inability to participate signals that he is the least likely Raiders quarterback to play in Week 7. Campbell will have to stay healthy throughout the week, but appears to be the early favorite.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
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The confidence the coaching staff have in Boller seems awfully low, if Jajason, slightly injured gets the start after last weeks debacle of a performance.
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I hear ya, I just can’t help but think he will do better than Campbell. I say give Boller a shot and see how the guys respond to him in an actual game.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
kyle boller should start based on bruce g injury and cambells last game against sf
October 20th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RedneckRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I don’t know whether to be amused, excited, disheartened, shocked, amazed, or furious by this statement:
“Also working under center was punter Shane Lechler, a high school quarterback and owner of one of the best throwing arms on the team.”
Shane Lechler- QB of the future…
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Doesn’t Shane get paid more than 2 out of our 3 QB’s? lol
October 20th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Bruce = win
Campbell = loss
Boller = ??? Could be good, or really really bad. Love the athleticism. Hate the accuracy. My gut tells me that behind this o-line he’d do much better than Campbell but not quite as good as Grads.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
“They got to put Boiler in there.”—a friend during the 9er game, after a few rum & cokes…
October 20th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
We’ve already seen Janikowski moonlight as a running back, so why not?
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I can see it now, the talking heads will have a field day with this lol!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Unless Boller shreds an ACL in practice, if he doesn’t start this week, I’m taking that as conclusive evidence that Davis is dictating gameday decisions.
10.7 QB rating gets you benched by any coach on any team. If Campbell is in, it’s only because Cable and Jackson are being overruled by higher authority.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
If Campbell does start at least I’ve got faith in Tommy the Cable Guy that he’ll give him the quick hook if things start to go like they did vs. SF.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Disheartening to hear Bruce was only a spectator, though. I had hopes he could go as the #2 if nothing else.
Wasn’t DMac supposed to test his hamstring today to see if he was at 100 percent? He’s probably gonna do it out of sight of the media.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Grads not throwing at all is a really bad sign. Raids have to be praying his separated shoulder will heal on it’s own. Probably giving him total rest hoping he can avoid surgery and return in a few weeks. By then we’re probably toast anyways unless Boller can step up.
We get reports that Schillens knee is improving, only to find out he still isn’t even able to practice.
Just a shame that Schillens can’t get healthy.
Those of us who do remember seeing him play breifly during pre-season and the start of last year would have to say he was our best rcvr.
He would run routes well enough and got enough separation that even JaMoron knew to throw him the ball. And as off target as JaMoron’s throws often were, Schillens would adjust and showed very good hands in securing the catch. Supposedly, he has or had tremendous speed and might be able to stretch the field in addition to being a very good posession rcvr.
There’s little doubt if he can get on and stay on the field that he’s a player.
I don’t think it’s his knee that’s kept him off the field all this time this season. I think it’s still his foot. The type of foot injury he had lingers for a long, long time. In many cases it’s career ending.
Can he ever get back on the field and stay there ? I don’t know. At this point it doesn’t seem likely. He’s been injury prone since his college days.
But I will say this, he’s one guy that I wouldn’t want to release and see him finally get healthy and make it somewhere else.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Go get Colt Brennan……what are we waiting for. Get him. Hell Colt McCoy looked better than anyone we’ve had this year.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
shane at q.b. that was big als secret plan, hes a big guy with a big arm, oh does he fit perfectly to als big plans, and if he has too he can always kick the ball to a wide out, probably would end up with better numbers than j.c. LOL
October 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Grads has onloy himself to blame running into safeties like he’s a HB. Idiot he’s already injury prone and he’s trying to show how tough he is. Slide next time and live to play another down.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Is Seabass the emergency punter?
October 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
i hope shane plays this weeken and completes passes to our wrs. too funny!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
With Boller and DMac, I’d rate our chances as better than fair, actually. Denver’s defense is nothing terribly special and they have no running game. (Then again, San Diego didn’t need one and it took a miracle strip-sack to beat them)
If Campbell starts and DMac sits again, though…ugh.
With Boller & McFadden = 24-20 Raiders
With Campbell and no McFadden = 23-13 Broncos
October 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Grads has onloy himself to blame running into safeties like he’s a HB.
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Huge Gradkowski fan, but he has got to learn when discretion is the better part of valor. It’s not like he’s the size of JaDrank.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
only the raiders waist 4 years on a seventh round pick to get healthy to play 4 games a year.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Shane is the 3rd QB in case of disaster what’s everybody panicking about. He’ll never see the field if Grads isn’t healthy by next week we’ll have another QB in here.
Relax…..lol
October 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Da Trinity Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
seasons pretty much done. now we have to see who are the players that can contribute to the future of the team. hope we get to see if macfadden at cb can be a baller for us, hope he heals soon. lets also see if bruce can man the gaurd before the end of the season.
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I guess the steelers should have said or thought like that goin in to the season without big Ben. I’m not gonna panic YET. Let’s see what boller can do
he moved the team well in preseason. Albeit it was preseason
October 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Is Seabass the emergency punter?
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I thought Condo the beast was the back up punter. None listed on the depth chart.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Shane is the 3rd QB in case of disaster what’s everybody panicking about.
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Nobody’s panicking and if there’s worry expressed, it’s because disaster always seems to befall this team.
Having Brennan on for a week as #3 would at least be a cheap & easy insurance policy to make sure your damn punter doesn’t have to go under center. Remember JP Losman had to go in against the Donks last year, even if only for 1 snap.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I swear if Shane Lechler comes out as qb and throws a pass im gonna pee my pants from laughing so hard. lol smh
October 20th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
anthropology? hmmm
October 20th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
only the raiders would create this much drama.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Trade Jon Condo for Donald Hollas!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Also, if Shane starts, we can do the quick kick and/or drop kick field goal! (kidding)
Sad: Actually, I could see Cable calling for a drop-kick field goal.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
BOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
aig-raiders Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
i hope shane plays this weeken and completes passes to our wrs. too funny!
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He’s got a better chance than JaJason.
And that’s serious, not funny.
I’d rather have Shane punt on first down than see JaJason take another snap at QB.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
If they announced Shane as the starting QB for the next home game, I would buy a plane ticket tomorrow to fly up from L.A. to see this in person. That’s the ONLY way I’m buying a ticket for this crappy product. Since it’s Halloween season, they should let him wear a Plunkett jersey for costume, too. If he’s got “…one of the best throwing arms on the team…” it might make Al soil his diaper to see Shane in the old Plunkett jersey. LMAO.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
really though, big boller cant really be any worse than what we have been forced to watch last 3 years other than grads?
October 20th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Grads has onloy himself to blame running into safeties like he’s a HB. Idiot he’s already injury prone and he’s trying to show how tough he is. Slide next time and live to play another down.
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True dat.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
if frye and russell can beat denver last year kyle boller can too
October 20th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
bruce g and darren m means wins
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Really? What happened against the Cards and Texans?
October 20th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Grads has onloy himself to blame running into safeties like he’s a HB. Idiot he’s already injury prone and he’s trying to show how tough he is. Slide next time and live to play another down.
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Yep, part of being a good QB is ensuring that you’ll be on the field for the next play, the next offensive sequence, and the next game. Buy acting like you’re a strong safety while carrying the ball demonstrates that you’re lacking in some basic understanding of what it takes to be a franchise QB.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Shane is the 3rd QB in case of disaster what’s everybody panicking about. He’ll never see the field if Grads isn’t healthy by next week we’ll have another QB in here.
Relax…..lol
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Shane might be listed as the ‘disaster’ QB, but there’s absolutely no way he’s attempting a pass as a QB, even if Grads, Boller and JaJason can’t play.
Without Grads moving the chains, Lechler is our MVP.
You simply don’t jeopardize your MVP by playing him at QB and risk losing him too !
October 20th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
# kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
if frye and russell can beat denver last year kyle boller can too
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And so can Shane. LOL.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Boller should have played second half of last game, we would have won (almonst any qb would have) against a horrible 9er team, and he would have had confidence going into the Denver game now he gets his first start as a Raider in hostile territory
October 20th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
« Cable on QB: We have no idea
That’s hilarious unto itself
October 20th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
The Raider’s will find out if Grads needs surgery this week and if he does, we are “F’ed”
October 20th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Can Loper throw?
October 20th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Only a few more losses and we can start to get the drop on discussion for our favorite subject: “Who’s gonna be the next figurehead coach?”
Preliminary odds:
Jim Fassel: 2-1
Kevin Gilbride: 3-1
Denny Green: 5-1
Steve Mariucci: 7-1
Wade Philips: 10-1
Jim Harbaugh: 25-1
Rob Ryan: 50-1
Jack Del Rio: 100-1
John Fox: 250-1
Marvin Lewis: 500-1
Eric Mangini: 750-1
Jon Gruden: 1,000,000-1
October 20th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
And if he has surgery, we will find out afterwards.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
we should re-sign colt brennan and start him. that kid is a baller.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Harbaugh/Vick ‘11 or Gruden/Vick ‘11……im good either way.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Lmao right when you think things can’t get any funnier in raider nation. You can’t make this stuff up. I know we don’t win games, coaching is terrible. But there ain’t a NFL team in this league that’s as entertaining as this one. Us raider fans are the luckiest fans in the world. Good thing is I can’t see it getting any worse.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Only a few more losses and we can start to get the drop on discussion for our favorite subject: “Who’s gonna be the next figurehead coach?”
Preliminary odds:
ART SHELL: EVEN LOL
Jim Fassel: 2-1
Kevin Gilbride: 3-1
Denny Green: 5-1
Steve Mariucci: 7-1
Wade Philips: 10-1
Jim Harbaugh: 25-1
Rob Ryan: 50-1
Jack Del Rio: 100-1
John Fox: 250-1
Marvin Lewis: 500-1
Eric Mangini: 750-1
Jon Gruden: 1,000,000-1
October 20th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Mario Henderson should be a D-Lineman….hes great at hurting a QB.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Lechler has got to be better than Campbell.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
60.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Only a few more losses and we can start to get the drop on discussion for our favorite subject: “Who’s gonna be the next figurehead coach?”
Preliminary odds:
Jim Fassel: 2-1
Kevin Gilbride: 3-1
Denny Green: 5-1
Steve Mariucci: 7-1
Wade Philips: 10-1
Jim Harbaugh: 25-1
Rob Ryan: 50-1
Jack Del Rio: 100-1
John Fox: 250-1
Marvin Lewis: 500-1
Eric Mangini: 750-1
Jon Gruden: 1,000,000-1
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Sooooooo Depressing.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
paging Bill Parcells….
October 20th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Only a few more losses and we can start to get the drop on discussion for our favorite subject: “Who’s gonna be the next figurehead coach?”
Preliminary odds:
RANDY HANSEN: 1-2
ART SHELL: EVEN LOL
Jim Fassel: 2-1
Kevin Gilbride: 3-1
Denny Green: 5-1
Steve Mariucci: 7-1
Wade Philips: 10-1
Jim Harbaugh: 25-1
Rob Ryan: 50-1
Jack Del Rio: 100-1
John Fox: 250-1
Marvin Lewis: 500-1
Eric Mangini: 750-1
Jon Gruden: 1,000,000-1
October 20th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
LOL, Exla. Good one.
I’d say it was possible, except that Shell probably has blocked all incoming calls originating in Alameda, CA.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
I bet Manase Tonga looks good out the shotgun formation
October 20th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
We in trouble. Shane at QB. This just keeps on getting more bizarre each day.
And we all criticized Randy Moss when he said that “something fishy” was going on in Alameda.
It seems like there is always something fishy going on with us…
October 20th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Too bad there’s not a rule that lets you drop kick the ball to receivers like in rugby. Shane would be our best QB if that was the case.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
There isn’t a bigger Grads supporter than me on this board.
But even I must admit it was sheer lunacy not to slide against the Texans on the play that he got crushed on.
Ironic that we’ve got a mutt like JaJason sliding two yards short of an easily attainable first down and managing to stay on the field when we don’t want him there, and a QB that we need on the field that isn’t smart enough to slide when necessary to stay healthy.
Chalk it up to inexperience, bravado, or a brain fart, but Grads refusal to slide against the Texans might very well have ended his season and the Raider’s season.
Not taking a time out in AZ was also another disastrous decision by Grads.
Got to use your brain Bruce. Have to play smarter.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Art Shell just called the B&B for an offensive Coordinator.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
bruce g and darren m means wins
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Really? What happened against the Cards and Texans?
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Missed chip shot and the D let up 31 points after our O put up 3 red zone TDs.
Grad is 1-2. He won the Rams game. Don’t care if he didn’t start.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
R U kidding me…Shane Lechler at QB??? No wonder we are the laughing stock of the NFL…
October 20th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Anybody know what the betting line is this week?
October 20th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
SHANE LECHLER:
Early years
Lechler attended East Bernard High School in East Bernard, Texas[1] and was a standout in football, basketball, golf and baseball. As a QUARTERBACK, punter, and placekicker, he led East Bernard to the state quarterfinals his senior year, completing 87 of 101 (86.1%) passes for 1,640 yards and 11 touchdowns. In his high school career, he PASSED FOR NEARLY 5,000 yards and averaged 41.6 yards per punt. His longest punt in high school was 85 yards.
College
Lechler was not only the Aggies’ punter, but also kicked off, served as the long field goal kicker, was the holder for short field goals and PATs, and was the EMERGENCY QUARTERBACK. As a senior, he completed a 29-YARD PASS on a fake punt against Baylor and threw a TOUCHDOWN PASS to Dan Campbell on a fake field goal in a hard-fought 17-10 win against Texas Tech.
When injuries depleted the depth chart, Lechler served as the BACKUP QUARTERBACK for the 1998 Big 12 Championship game. At one point in the game, the Aggies’ last healthy quarterback Branndon Stewart appeared shaken and a NERVOUS-LOOKING LECHLER WARMED HIS ARM UP ON THE SIDELINE.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
the line was off, but with shane in the mix it should be -4 raiders!
October 20th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
It’s not surprising that we haven’t brought in another QB. We’ve needed a veteran receiver since the beginning of the year and haven’t done anything about that either.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
so shane can throw eh? Well why the hell did we try a fake fg with Seabass running for the 1st down instead of Shane The Arm Lechler throwing it? Still one of the funniest/most embarassing Raider plays in recent history
October 20th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
52. sebastian missed three fgs in az. bruce g and darren m got hurt against houston raiderdebo
October 20th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Shane The Arm Lechler
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too dang funny!
October 20th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Al should appoint himself head coach.
Get rid of the walker. Get one of those electric carts and terrorize the sideline.
Appoint a designated challenge flag thrower, or put a catapault on the cart, if necessary.
Appoint as many assistants as necessary to handle all the mundane time consuming and exhausting duties that Al due to his advanced age can’t handle.
Stock up on Geritol.
The greatness of the Raiders is in the future, baby – and Al will be a cornerstone.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
has this news made the national news yet? cause they are gonna be wearing our assess out tonight if they hear about it.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
I still hate the Raiders. You still hate the Raiders. Your next-door neighbor still hates the Raiders.
Every self-respecting Colorado resident still hates the Raiders.
But why? What’s to hate? The Raiders come into town on Sunday as losers. They have stumbled through seven straight seasons with 10 or more losses.
Sunday, in their 17-9 loss to previously winless San Francisco, Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell turned in a passer rating of 10.7. It was the lowest rating by a Raiders quarterback since Ken Stabler turned in a 9.9 rating against Cincinnati in 1975. Campbell didn’t complete a pass in the second and third quarters and he finished 8-of-21 for 83 yards with two interceptions.
It’s kind of pathetic.
Post Poll – Raider Haters
If you’re a Broncos fan, you probably hate the Raiders. But why?
Tradition. Broncos fans have always hated the Raiders.
Al Davis. The Raiders’ ancient owner is easy to despise.
Raiders fans. They are rude, obnoxious and scary.
None of the above. I hate the Raiders because …
You’d think we would take pity on a franchise that’s been teetering for years. Yet the black and silver still makes our blood boil and our skin crawl.
Why?
Read more: Broncos fans love to hate the Raiders, but why? – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16377597#ixzz12w53Njx5
October 20th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Lechler to DHB for a 86 yard TD!!!!!!
Holla!
October 20th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Here’s my personal list of reasons:
When I was a kid growing up in Arvada, the Broncos were really bad, the Raiders were really good. In 1967, the Raiders beat the Broncos 51-0.
The list of great Raiders who regularly rubbed salt in Denver’s wounds is a long one: Daryle Lamonica (the Mad Bomber), Fred Biletnikoff, Jack Tatum, Lester Hayes (and his Stickum), Ted Hendricks (The Mad Stork), Kenny Stabler (The Snake) and coach John Madden (Tommy Jackson called him “Fat Man), to name just a few.
The Raiders were not just good, they were cocky and therefore easy to hate. In 1973, Oakland came to Mile High Stadium for the first Monday Night Football game in Broncos history. It was a big deal and the stadium rocked like never before.
My brother, Steve, and I created a banner out of an old bed sheet. We hung it off the deck in the west stands. It read: “Roses are red, violets are blue, if you’re for the Raiders the hell with you!” Very daring, very cutting edge for two teenagers. The fans in our section gave us a standing
Coach John Madden (left) and owner Al Davis won a Super Bowl together on Jan. 9, 1977, beating the Vikings 32-14. (AP | Wally Fong)ovation.
Read more: Broncos fans love to hate the Raiders, but why? – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16377597#ixzz12w5b4hN5
October 20th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Al Davis. I know he’s an historic figure in American sports. I know he now cuts a sad, pathetic figure. But really, the guy is a jerk.
He used to sit in the press box in the old Mile High Stadium and spew profanities. Mike Shanahan once told me jaw-dropping stories (off the record) about how Davis cruelly mistreated people.
I remember covering a Super Bowl at Reliant Stadium in Houston. I was getting into the huge press elevator when Davis and his entourage arrived. Al’s henchmen made me take the next elevator because “Mr. Davis isn’t sharing this elevator.”
Read more: Broncos fans love to hate the Raiders, but why? – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16377597#ixzz12w5xAuaQ
October 20th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I don’t know why I am still a Raiders fan. It would be embarrassing for me to switch teams because of my friends and other people who associate me as a Raider fan. I have to continue to be on record as a fan. To be honest, I don’t know that I could ever NOT root for Oakland to win games but I wish I could. It’s embarrassing to be a Raider fan, and it sucks majorly.
You watch these other teams get coverage on ESPN and NFLN and you wonder: “Gee wouldn’t it be nice if WE could be like them? You know, a team that actually gets respect cuz they are good. Wouldn’t it be cool to be a fan of a team that wasn’t a complete joke, and the laughingstock of the sports world?” “Wouldn’t it be cool to have the media talk about my team in terms of respect or admiration?” How about FEAR? Ha. Yeah right. Who fears Oakland? Nobody even respects this franchise in the least. I’ve put myself on the line as a fan for this team and all people do is feel sorry for me.
Wouldn’t it be cool just to root for a football team that mattered?
The Raiders ruin my enjoyment of football. I hate the team, I hate the owner now, but a part of me will always want them to succeed, but it sucks knowing they never will.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I love the Raiders because everyone else loves to hate the Raiders. Yeah, the Raiders can be pretty pathetic at times, at by at times I mean for 7 years, but I still and will forever love the Raiders. They are my team for life. There’s really nothing to be positive about right now but the feeling that you have, does it seem familiar? It’s the same feeling you had before the San Diego game.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I don’t know why I am still a Raiders fan. It would be embarrassing for me to switch teams because of my friends and other people who associate me as a Raider fan. I have to continue to be on record as a fan. To be honest, I don’t know that I could ever NOT root for Oakland to win games but I wish I could. It’s embarrassing to be a Raider fan, and it sucks majorly.
You watch these other teams get coverage on ESPN and NFLN and you wonder: “Gee wouldn’t it be nice if WE could be like them? You know, a team that actually gets respect cuz they are good. Wouldn’t it be cool to be a fan of a team that wasn’t a complete joke, and the laughingstock of the sports world?” “Wouldn’t it be cool to have the media talk about my team in terms of respect or admiration?” How about FEAR? Ha. Yeah right. Who fears Oakland? Nobody even respects this franchise in the least. I’ve put myself on the line as a fan for this team and all people do is feel sorry for me.
Wouldn’t it be cool just to root for a football team that mattered?
The Raiders ruin my enjoyment of football. I hate the team, I hate the owner now, but a part of me will always want them to succeed, but it sucks knowing they never will.
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Burn your Raider gear, drop your friends, quit your job and relocate. Problem solved.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
KoolKell,
Amazingly same as last weekend (Raiders +7)
October 20th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Also working under center was punter Shane Lechler, a high school quarterback and owner of one of the best throwing arms on the team.
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Even with this fact, the only thing our brainaic head coach could come up with on the Fake side of things was having him throw the ball between his legs to a 300 pound kicker.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
djohnnyg Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
The Raiders ruin my enjoyment of football. I hate the team, I hate the owner now, but a part of me will always want them to succeed, but it sucks knowing they never will.
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Could be worse, you could be like me…certain that they are going to turn things around, only to be bitterly disappointed.
God help me, I love this team.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
JFB
Those guys are pretty smart. I didn’t understand last week, but they were dead on.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I’m kind of new to this forum, but now I think I’m getting it now. KoolKell is the negative Nancy right?
October 20th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Have we called a WR screen to DHB yet this year…
If Desean Jackson can return punts then DHB can return kicks. Hes gotta be as fast or faster than Ginn.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
We seem to be relatively dead in the woods annually and drift into Denver and pull out a W or at least a close loss.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
DHB with all his speed has turned into a possession receiver with possessing issues.
Murphy is our big-play guy (with his own set of issues)
October 20th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
From Tafur:
Jared Veldheer seemed to get every snap with 1st team, as he may have beaten out Mario Henderson.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Kimbo Mitchell….Keep it up buddy.
Gutierrez: Mitchell Taking Note of NFL’s Crackdown
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Paul Gutierrez
CSN California
ALAMEDA – Mike Mitchell was appealing to the Raiders in the 2009 draft out of Ohio, in part, due to his reputation as a game-changing big hitter in the mold of Jack Tatum.
Whether or not the second-year strong safety has reminded anyone in Silver and Blackdom of the late “Assassin” is besides the point. But Mitchell is coming off the two best games of his young career. And, with his physical style of play, Mitchell has taken a special interest in the NFL’s cracking down of illegal hits this week.
“They’ve got to do what they’ve got to do to keep it safe,” Mitchell said. “Especially this week, there’s been a lot of injuries and that’s the main thing for guys. We’re not out here to hurt each other and get hurt. This is a game we play for fun. It’ a game we love. So obviously, there has to be rules to protect us.”
Three players – Pittsburgh linebacker James Harrison, New England safety Brandon Meriweather and Atlanta cornerback Dunta Robinson – were each fined by the NFL on Tuesday for “dangerous and flagrant hits” this past weekend. Harrison was docked $75,000 for his blow on Cleveland receiver Mohamed Massaquoi, while Meriwether, who hit Baltimore tight end Todd Heap, and Robinson, who knocked himself out along with Philadelphia receiver DeSean Jackson, were slapped with $50,000 fines. An upset Harrison is reportedly contemplating retirement.
“I think we’ve got to watch to make sure we’re not taking away from players’ aggressiveness, but I definitely agree that we have to have these steps taken to crack down a little bit and make this thing a little safer. I just hope that one day, we’re not playing flag football,” Mitchell said.
Two Sundays ago, Mitchell as lauded for his coverage of San Diego’s All-World tight end Antonio Gates. Three days ago, he shadowed the 49ers’ Vernon Davis. Mitchell’s thoughts?
“Well, Vernon didn’t have a catch this week on me so I guess that’ an improvement,” Mitchell said with a smile. “I gave up one against Gates and I gave up none this week…I just want to keep getting better, keep progressing.
“The coaches and the players on my team, I think I’m gaining their respect, slowly but surely. I just got to keep working and find out what I didn’t do good last week and improve going into this next game. That’s what this thing’s about – 16 games, every week you’ve just got to keep getting a little better.”
So I asked Mitchell if there was any chance of a letdown this week going against Denver’s relatively unheralded tight end duo of Daniel Graham and Dan Gronkowski.
“Uh, no,” Mitchell said with another grin. “Because I don’t have a name yet and I’m trying to develop a name as being a good player in this league. So every opponent I face, I’m getting up for.
“This is the NFL. It’s the best of the best. There are no slouches or any bums or anything like that. Everyone is going to be a great player so every week I’m bringing my “A” Game and, you know, we’ll just let the chips fall where they may.”
October 20th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Jared Veldheer seemed to get every snap with 1st team, as he may have beaten out Mario Henderson.
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That was the most pathetic “fight” for a job since Jimmy and Timmy duked it out on South Park.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Jimmy and Timmy’s fight was entertaining though. Seeing our qbs get murked, not so much
October 20th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
99.elvesandplums168 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I’m kind of new to this forum, but now I think I’m getting it now. KoolKell is the negative Nancy right?
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Lets’s hear some of your happy talk………..
October 20th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
i am happy boller is sharing reps with num ones but i dont think jared v is ready for full time lt
October 20th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
just read some of my prior posts. you have some good points but some of them, not so much
October 20th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
99. i think your right. too many people in hear that claim to be fans of the team but use this site as a popularity contest like social networking or sumthing. im close to being done with it but may continue to read jerrys articles as they are always top notch elvesandplums
October 20th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
I used to be a David White reader myself but ever since that bozo Vitto came aboard Jerry has really stepped up his game. He is on top of his beat
October 20th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
This guy should be our next HC. Too funny.
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Mike Zimmer on Bobby Petrino: “He’s a gutless bastard”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 20, 2010 4:03 PM ET
Let’s just say Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer doesn’t look back fondly on his days coaching under Bobby Petrino in Atlanta.
“He’s a gutless bastard. Quote that. I don’t give a s—,” Zimmer said Wednesday, according to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer.
When Zimmer was told that responsible news organization may not be able to use “bastard,” Zimmer responded:
“How about this, gutless MF. You can use that.” (Awesome. Much appreciated.)
Petrino famously didn’t tell any of his assistants that he was leaving Atlanta for the head coaching job at Arkansas. On Sunday, Zimmer’s Bengals face a Falcons team that has been almost completely remade since 2007, especially on defense.
Meanwhile, the “gutless bastard” has Arkansas back in the top 25 in college football.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Why don’t you guys try one of the booster blogs, you can get all the happy talk you want there.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
112. mike zimmer is a very good defensive coach but i like tom cable as the head man. this ship is slowing turning around but that over the hump line is wearing me thin aig-raid
October 20th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
you seem to be quite the Raider fan when you chat with Jerry
October 20th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
113. one commenter here told me to talk to you because we may have a lot in common as we are close to the same age. how old r u koolkell
October 20th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
kareemabduljabbar and elvesandplums168, I’m quite sure have been posting here for awhile.
Who were you before the name change?
October 20th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I just created a log in not too long ago. Got sick of Vitto’s non-informative articles
October 20th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Watching the games in a sportsbook in Reno last weekend. Line on the Raid game is teetering between 6.5 and 7. Decide I’m gonna bet the Raids at plus 7 bcz the I’m convinced there’s no way it can go higher and there’s no way I want to get hooked if I bet em at 6.5 and the whiners win by 7.
Get my bet in and wait. Surprisingly, the line goes to 7.5. Now I’m pissed I didn’t wait and get the extra half point. Then the line moves to 8. And then to 8.5 !
Someone or some syndicate is really pounding that number. Can’t be just the local whiner fans moving the line that much.
Anyway, I’m convinced the Raids will cover getting 8.5 even though I figure Campbell blows and they won’t score much. So I double up on them +8.5 and luckily split on my bets.
Eventually the line settled at 8 and it made me happy that the book got sided and middled by bettors taking the whiners anywhere from -6.5 to -8 and by the bettors that moved the line back down when it hit 8.5
In my opinion Campbell was sacked for a safety late in that game and the whiners should have won by 10. That blown call enabled a few late Raider bettors to cash tickets.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Either way, I know you are a Raider fan even though you try to hate on them as much as you can
October 20th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
im 63 and i remember the greats like fred b ted h gene u and willie
October 20th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
120.elvesandplums168 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Either way, I know you are a Raider fan even though you try to hate on them as much as you can
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Don’t be childish, I’ve followed the Raiders since childhood. Criticizing a losing team is not hate. It’s disapointment.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Kareem,
I dunno brother. I’ve seen enough drama to know that Tom Cable is fighting an uphill battle. It’s going to be tough for TC this year. My prediction was 4-5 at the bye week. If he wins 2 of the next 3, his job is safe. I think our team will be much healthier after the bye week. Not sure if JaPuke and Boller can get us 2 wins in the next 3 weeks. Grad’s injury is playing huge.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
they are dissapointing and they do deserve most of the criticisms they get, but im just saying, many of us felt like this before the san diego game too. I guess i just have blind faith in them
October 20th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Al Davis is NOT God.
Al Davis. I know he’s an historic figure in American sports. I know he now cuts a sad, pathetic figure. But really, the guy is a jerk.
He used to sit in the press box in the old Mile High Stadium and spew profanities. Mike Shanahan once told me jaw-dropping stories (off the record) about how Davis cruelly mistreated people.
I remember covering a Super Bowl at Reliant Stadium in Houston. I was getting into the huge press elevator when Davis and his entourage arrived. Al’s henchmen made me take the next elevator because “Mr. Davis isn’t sharing this elevator.”
Read more: Broncos fans love to hate the Raiders, but why? – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16377597#ixzz12w5xAuaQ
October 20th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
They beat Pitt & Cincy last year and still wound up at 5-11.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
what do u think this weekend’s score will be?
October 20th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Weekend’s score depends on which Raider team shows up. If the oe against Niners, it’ll be 10-35 Denver. If the one against SD or Arizona, it’ll be 27-20 Raiders
October 20th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Somebody call Jeff George…that’s how badly I don’t want to see Campbell on Sunday.
If Campbell starts the score this weekend is 31-10 (TD in junk time), with only a 5% chance that we win the game. If Boller starts, the score will be 24-17, with a 25% chance we win the game. If Grads started, I’d say we are in the game for 4 quarters as usual but this doesn’t seem like the case. Jeff George stars, 31-28 after throwing 3 TDS but 4 pick-6s and 1 pick that leads to a fg.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
In order of who i want to start on Sunday:
1) Boller, 2)a left handed Gradkowski, 3) Lechler, 4) Jeff George, 6) Janikowski (at least it would provide laughs to mask the misery), 7) Campbell, 8)Jawalrus
October 20th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
You fans heard the latest rumor?…I actually see this as a real possibility…Majic Johnson sellin off his coffee shops and whatever else, Laker stock,…looking to buy into the Oakland Raiders,…guess where Ervin and Amy would like them to be playing?….yep, youre right. Cue the Randy Newman music…and no, I wont be attending all home games when that happens…guess when they leave I will not be a mini plan season ticket holder for the Warriors, I will just get the entire season plan. Let the Keith Smart era begin!
October 20th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
After all these “Re-Building years”, the
Raiders are STILL # 30 in Run Defense, 149 yds per game.
Why don’t things ever get fixed on this team?
October 20th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Have we called a WR screen to DHB yet this year…
If Desean Jackson can return punts then DHB can return kicks. Hes gotta be as fast or faster than Ginn.
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But he has to catch the ball first. Drops His Balls.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
12:09
[Comment From KoolKellKoolKell: ]
Jerry, with all the isms, edicts, philosophies of Al Davis etched on Stone Tablets, how can anyone hold the HC accountable for the Raiders performances?
Tuesday October 19, 2010 12:09 KoolKell
12:09
jerrymac:
Why even have one then?
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In other words, “and your point is”?
Even Jmac clowns you.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
^^^ hahaha get em
October 20th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
[...] In his senior year of high school Lechler quarterbacked his team to the Texas state quarterfinals. He is also the “owner of one of the best throwing arms on the team” according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. [...]
October 21st, 2010 at 7:25 am
Re-sign Colt Brennan.