Cable clarifies QB situation
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 20th, 2010 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and quotes Wednesday as the Raiders prepare to face the Broncos in Denver:
— Here’s the way the question was phrased regarding the Raiders quarterback situation with Bruce Gradkowski, Jason Campbell and Kyle Boller:
Q: If Bruce could not go and Jason was healthy enough play, would he start over Kyle?
Cable: Yes.
That would seemingly put to rest speculation Boller would start if Gradkowski can’t play _regardless of how healthy Campbell is. Campbell is coming off an 8-for-21, 83-yard game with no touchdowns and a pair of interceptions.
If it’s any consolation, his 10.7 quarterback rating would have been 36.4 had Jacoby Ford held on for a 10-yard gain on Campbell’s final pass instead of having it explode off Ford’s body as if it were a cement wall and into the hands of linebacker Takeo Spikes.
Here’s how Cable described what Gradkowski and Campbell did Wednesday:
“Bruce did some stuff, which was good, and some real easy stuff, in terms of throwing (but didn’t) cut it loose or throw the ball down the field or anything like that. Moved around fine. Jason is a little bit sore. You saw Kyle practicing. So we’ll just continue on that path and it may have to be a game tim decision.”
— Cable on running back Darren McFadden:
“There was a couple times when he did cut it loose and it was good. He felt good afterward. If we get out here tomorrow and no setback or anything like that, hopefully we’re through it.’’
Running back Michael Bennett also practiced and ran hard a couple of times, meaning it’s possible both running backs will be available to rejoin the active roster after missing the 49ers game.
— With Campbell and Gradkowski healthy enough to at least do some things on the field, Cable doesn’t believe it’s necessary to bring in another quarterback for the practice squad.
Punter Shane Lechler assumed that role Wednesday.
“There’s a set of plays he would run,’’ Cable said in reference to having to use Lechler in a game. “A `what if’ thing.’’
— When Quentin Groves recovers sufficiently from a hamstring pull, Cable said he would return to weak side linebacker and Trevor Scott would go back to the three-man rotation at end along with Matt Shaughnessy and Lamarr Houston.
— Mario Henderson will continue to alternate with Jared Veldheer at left tackle, Cable said, but it appears Veldheer may be getting closer to winning the job outright.
Henderson had some particularly bad snaps against the 49ers, getting manhandled by Justin Smith on a failed Bush third-and-goal run out of the shotgun.
– With Brandon Myers missing practice because of a concussion and possibly not being able to play, Cable said the Raiders are considering a number of options, including using an offensive lineman during power formations, using Marcel Reece there during no fullback sets and possibly elevating practice squad tight end Kevin Brock.
– Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha thinks the Broncos passing game may have been easier to defend when the focal point was Brandon Marshall (with apologies to former Raider DeAngelo Hall and his forgettable 2008 opener against Eddie Royal).
Quarterback Kyle Orton is on pace to pass for an NFL record 5,179 yards. Three wide receivers _ Jabar Gaffney (37-408), Brandon Lloyd (34-663) and Royal (32-367) have 30 catches or more.
The Raiders leading wide receiver, by contrast, is Louis Murphy, with 19 receptions for 308 yards.
“Now there is not a focus,’’ Asomugha said. “They have so many weapons that Kyle is throwing the ball to everybody. They spread it around much more than they did in the past.’’
– Denver coach Josh McDaniels insists the Broncos haven’t abandoned the run, even if it looks that way.
The Broncos are averaging 2.7 yards per carry, far and away the worst in the NFL, but are running the ball 25.2 times, a middle-of-the-pack figure.
McDaniels told Bay Area reporters by conference call the Broncos have simply been more effective throwing the ball so far and that a few times game circumstances took the run out of the game.
Denver rushed for 149 yards against the New York Jets, a team with one of the top rushing defenses in the league. They got 49 of those yards on runs from quarterbacks, Orton on scrambles and Tim Tebow on designed runs.
“We’re focused on getting better in that area of the game and not abandon it certainly at all,’’ McDaniels said. “Our goal will always be to maintain balance.’’
— Mike Mitchell, coming off his second solid game with an increasing role in the secondary and a bit of a youtube sensation in college some college knockout hits at Ohio, had mixed emotions about the NFL stepping up enforcement for helmet-to-helmet contact.
“They’ve got to do what they’ve got to do to keep it safe,’’ Mitchell said. “We’re not out here to hurt each other and get hurt. Obviously, there has to be rules to protect us.
“I think we’ve got to make sure we don’t take from other players’ aggressiveness, but I definitely agree that we have to have these steps taken to crack down a little bit and make it safer. I just hope that one day, we’re not playing flag football.’’
Cable on the rules crackdown: “Certainly we want to protect the players, but some of these plays are so bang-bang, I don’t know how you tell a player to do that. A lot of injuries happen when guys get pulled up at the last second. Someone gets rolled up on or a guy gets hit at a bad angle or something that you don’t teach fundamentally, so we’re kind of teetering on having telling them something negative here that may in fact hurt ‘even more.’’
Cable said he agrees with the present rule and wants helmet-to-helmet contact legislated, but noted, “In this game, with the caliber of athlete and the training they do, athletes get better and better with all the great training we have every year. To ask those guys, `OK, stop.’ It’s impossible.’’
– Raiders safeties have zero interceptions this season and have incurred the wrath of the fan base (and justifiably so) in some instances, but that opinion is not shared by Cable who said “collectively, that group is playing at a high level.’’
Cable noted the improved play of Mike Mitchell of late and was asked about the possibility of him competing for a job as a starter, displacing Michael Huff, or, more likely strong safety Tyvon Branch.
“No, I think we’re pretty set at those two spots. We’re pretty set there.’’
— Linebacker Travis Goethel was on the practice field for the first time since the third preseason game. He’s been out for reasons never disclosed but believed to be minor surgery on his lower back.
“He did some drills, did some conditioning, kind of followed his rehab format and really, just the first time getting him back out there,’’ Cable said. “So, hopefully he’ll feel good tomorrow (and) we can just continue to add to that. I wouldn’t expect him, in terms of playing, until next week at the earliest.”
– A few players had heard about Pittsburgh’s James Harrison’s threat to retire over what he believed to be excessive enforcement of helmet-to-helmet rules, although one player who knows him figures he’ll back down once he learns how much bonus money he’ll have to return from his recent contract.
– Interesting observation from former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon during the telecast of the Raiders-49ers game Sunday regarding Campbell.
“He was struggling a little bit,’’ Gannon said on the air with information gleaned during a production meeting with the quarterback. “ He’s really trying to memorize the formations this week. He felt if he could memorize all the formations, it would help him play quicker, particularly early against the 49ers.’’
One question _ after arriving the day after he was acquired by trade and being with the Raiders ever since, shouldn’t Campbell have the formations memorized by now?
–Wednesday is typically the heaviest media day for an NFL team during the week, but the Raiders took the minimalist approach. No prior notification of opposing team conference calls (had to call the Broncos to find that out), no quarterback or coordinator to the podium and very few players with major roles in the locker room during the open session.
– Other injury related issues: DT John Henderson (stress fracture) did not practice. SS Tyvon Branch was limited with a sore lower back. LB Thomas Howard (knee) did not practice.
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October 20th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
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October 20th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I missed that comment from Gannon. Campbell is still trying to memorize the formations? LMAO! Wow. He really IS Russell Part Duece!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
They ought to start Boller. Kyle versus Kyle at the height of a mile!
October 20th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Tom Cable, regarding the safeties:
“No, I think we’re pretty set at those two spots. We’re pretty set there.’’
This is why you will be fired.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
We’re in trouble.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
If Cable can’t see that our safeties have been a major liability in almost every game we’ve played in so far, he has no business being our head coach.
Stevie Wonder can see that Branch has been torched time and time again. You have analysts pointing it out from the press box, but Cable standing right there on the field can’t see it.
Pathetic.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Mike Mitchel and Stevie Brown should be our safeties.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
JaCampbell sucks. Hopefully Boller gets the start this weekend. He’s not much better, but at least we’ll have something new to b!tch about.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Wednesday is typically the heaviest media day for an NFL team during the week, but the Raiders took the minimalist approach. No prior notification of opposing team conference calls (had to call the Broncos to find that out), no quarterback or coordinator to the podium and very few players with major roles in the locker room during the open session.
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Translation: No accountability.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
So you guys actually read above?
Props!
I don’t have the stomach or patience for it.
Cable is a meathead…
October 20th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
KKKell are you still here?
What does your wife do while your online 18hrs a day posting the same krap over & over like a deranged idiot ?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Don’t blame Al Davis for the Michael Huff draft pick…he wanted Matt Leinart!
October 20th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
If Cable can’t see that our safeties have been a major liability in almost every game we’ve played in so far, he has no business being our head coach.
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You have to take whatever any Raider Head Coach says with a huge grain of salt.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
12:09
[Comment From KoolKellKoolKell: ]
Jerry, with all the isms, edicts, philosophies of Al Davis etched on Stone Tablets, how can anyone hold the HC accountable for the Raiders performances?
Tuesday October 19, 2010 12:09 KoolKell
12:09
jerrymac:
Why even have one then?
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In other words, “and your point is”?
Even Jmac clowns you.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
What about a Schilens update?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
BrownStains
You handle your business, I’ll handle mine.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Too bad Travis LaBoy didn’t deliver the ultimate knock out blow this past week to the slug Campbell so Monkey AL would have to place the reincarnation of Jim Plunkett on the IR….hmmm…..lost for the season….how sad, lol, put a slug out of its misery.
K…..sooo…here we go…”Ode to Alzheimers AL” (please sing this to the melody of the Beverly Hillbillies’ theme song):
Come ‘n listen to my story ’bout Alzheimers AL
A shadow of himself, at the moon he would howl,
And then one day, dreamin of days gone by
Purple Drank appeared causing AL to sigh,
JaDumbarse, that is, black gold, BamaBoy…
Well, the first thing you know, AL’s 2 and 14
Nother seasons gone by, AL still has a dream,
Told ole Lance Californy is a place you ought’nt be
So Lance loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee
Hollywood..vertical attack, man-on-man, 1969…..
So AL’s still thinkin its 1969,
With a vertical attack everything’ll be fine
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole.
Well, now it’s time to say goodbye to AL and all his kin,
AL would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin’ in
Insanity and alzheimers, superbowls and gin.
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of AL’s hospitality
Dementia, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Y’all come back now, hear?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
I actually picked the Raiders to beat the spread against the Donks this weekend but with Jason playing over Boller? Donks will cover easy. Changing my pick right now.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
You think Matt Leinart would make a better safety? I know Huff would be a better quarterback.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Really? An injured Campbell over Boller? Not like Boller is some undrafted walk-on scrub. Kid had legit creds coming outta college. Has an NFL arm. Has started some games in the NFL. I admit I don’t have much of an idea if he can be effective and I was drunk by the time the kid got into the pre-season games but it seemed like he was performing in them. I thought he looked pretty good in PS albeit against scrubs and castoffs.
So we have to see which Campbell is going to show up agasint the Donkeys? The second half of Chargirl game Jason or the Titans/Rams/9Ball game Jason?
At least the Donkey D isn’t very good. And is injured I think. Dang.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
@17 that was pretty good. Sad but good.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Do you guys really think Al Davis would let Kyle Boller play over his 6 million dollar QB, whom he traded for?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
@#15: the Chaz is still hurt. You’ll get an update when that changes I figure.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Always with the name calling KKKell, not really appropiate behavior for a man your old age.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Raiders safeties have zero interceptions this season and have incurred the wrath of the fan base (and justifiably so) in some instances, but that opinion is not shared by Cable who said “collectively, that group is playing at a high level.’’
Cable noted the improved play of Mike Mitchell of late and was asked about the possibility of him competing for a job as a starter, displacing Michael Huff, or, more likely strong safety Tyvon Branch.
“No, I think we’re pretty set at those two spots. We’re pretty set there.’’
Then goes on to say…
“SS Tyvon Branch was limited with a sore lower back.”
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Full of ****.
Branch has been ahuge liabilty and if his sore back hampers him evenmore gawd help us.
Mitchell is likely to be the man stepping in for him but they’ll probably put in Ware or Brown instead.
OR Eugene.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
And another myth about JaPuke has just been debunked.
Myth – JaPuke is a smart player.
Fact – He was struggling a little bit,’’ Gannon said on the air with information gleaned during a production meeting with the quarterback. “ He’s really trying to memorize the formations this week. He felt if he could memorize all the formations, it would help him play quicker, particularly early against the 49ers.’’
Now we know why he was rated 10.7. Couldnt remember what to do.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
if Bush and Mcfadden controll the running game and the clock, we’ll be ok. if we gotta rely on JC arms. its gonna be a long game
October 20th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
20. Boller is inconsistent Campbell and Grads are…inconsistent…Whats the f’in diff at this point Al?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Wow I can’t believe Cable said that. Really!? You believe that our safeties are playing at a high level?
Is that some kind of back handed (excuse the pun) slap at the scheme from on high?
Single deep safety is unplayable even with a top 10 draft pick from a national championship college who has played in the system for 4 years now?
Wow.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Do you guys really think Al Davis would let Kyle Boller play over his 6 million dollar QB, whom he traded for?
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KK with the meddling theory? Link, source, you have neither.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
MistaBrownStains,
Which would you prefer, BrownStains or SkidMarks?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
How the “F” are you still learning the formations as a QB FIVE games into the season? Pathetic. Someone check his locker for the purple…
October 20th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
@23: he should have been put on the PUP-this Roster is badly mismanaged with the whole Nick Miller fiasco last year and now Schilens still not playing well into week 7?? It’s not like we’re overly deep in every position and can’t use the roster spot on someone who’ll get on the field
October 20th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
KKKell, while you are in here 18hrs a day 7 days a week criticizing AL Davis flunkies for carrying his water you are doing the same for pres purple lips, yes? If your still on the hop & change band wagon after this huge spread the wealth socialism failure that pretty much means you are the equivalent of a Davis flunkie, yes ?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
26. Word. I think Jmarc had memoery problems cuz he was drunk on cough syrpup.
Not sure what Campbell’s excuse is. Maybe he’s a slacker or has terminology overload.
Either way, its a **** job for us.
Yuck. Give Boller a shot. Might as well…
October 20th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
33.FREE PALESTINE Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
@23: he should have been put on the PUP-this Roster is badly mismanaged with the whole Nick Miller fiasco last year and now Schilens still not playing well into week 7?? It’s not like we’re overly deep in every position and can’t use the roster spot on someone who’ll get on the field
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Ask Al Davis, the GM.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
@33: agreed.
@35: check wonderlic scores. JC’s is none too high. About the same as Jamayonnaise if I recall.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
KKKell, if you can support a failure the magnitude of pres purple lips others can do the same for the great Al Davis without your 24/7 badgering, yes?
At least Al is a self made man that has accomplished something in his life unlike your hope & change hero!
October 20th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
I hope the pass defense is getting their game sharp. They’re gunna need it.
Do you guys see us winning a shootout with the Donks with Jason Campbell at the helm? A somewhat wounded and memory challenged JC mind you.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
BrownStains
Take your troll nonsense somewhere else, not interested.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Boller being behind Campbell on the depth chart is disheartening
October 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
41.inonewordraider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Boller being behind Campbell on the depth chart is disheartening
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Hopefully they’re trying to play games with Denver.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
BrownStains
Take your troll nonsense somewhere else, not interested.
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The king of trolls calling someone else a troll, oh the comedy.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Do you guys really think Al Davis would let Kyle Boller play over his 6 million dollar QB, whom he traded for?
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# KoolKell Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
41.inonewordraider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Boller being behind Campbell on the depth chart is disheartening
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Hopefully they’re trying to play games with Denver.
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Make up your mind old man.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Jerry says, “I am not a fan!”
October 20th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Hopefully Cable knows he’s gonna deam Campbell not fit to play due to health reasons so he can throw Denver off and Boller starts otherwise, Jamarcus 2.0
October 20th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
KKKell, your not interested in explaining how its ok for you to criticize Davis flunkies while doing the thing for pres purp lips?
Ok KKKell i’ll let you off the hook because we can all see what you are about.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
#32-El Gato-Typical SEC QB.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
BrownStains
Richochet likes to play those he said, she said nonsense on the blog. Wait for him to arrive.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I think Murphy and DHB actually would be pretty good by Sunday if Grads was playing since game 1, Campbell and Russell stunted their growth
October 20th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
KKKell I dont play that game. Dont act like I’m doing it.
Next time you go off about a Davis flunkie remember your a pres purple lips flunkie!
Carrying water is carrying water, yah ?
October 20th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Shut up MistabrOwn, you have no credibility anymore.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
A.B yes I do, always had cred, never lost it, get over it!
October 20th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
BrownStains
I was thinking about your cockroach problem you were talking about.
You know, those trailers are made with a lot of plastic, which I hear they feed on. You might want to think about a different place to live.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Shut up MistabrOwn, you have no credibility anymore.
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U Mad?
October 20th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Drexl Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Shut up MistabrOwn, you have no credibility anymore.
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U Mad?
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I’m not mad. But, MistabrOwn is a joke. Anyone who says the president has accomplished less in his life than Al Davis shows himself to be a complete moron.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
A.B, dont get an attitude at me just because you been carrying water for pres purple lips, not fault you bought into the hope & change B.S, thats your problem mam
October 20th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
LOL!
A.B is a true brown shirt!
Didn’t mean to hurt your lil feelins A.B, hey look at it this way lots of people bought into the hope & change B.S, not me….but lots of idiots like you and KKKell.
Al DAvis has built a franchise worth Millions. Pres purp lips has never even ran a cash register at Mickey D’s.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
A.B = B.S
Yes Al has run his empire into the ground but at least he built something to wreck. Cant say the same for a community organizer/agitator lawyer that never tried a case in his affirm action led life.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/494118-oakland-raiders-choke-against-san-francisco-49ers-raider-nation-deserves-better
Good read fellas……..
October 20th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Jmcclain, get a life.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
“He was struggling a little bit,’’ Gannon said on the air with information gleaned during a production meeting with the quarterback. “ He’s really trying to memorize the formations this week. He felt if he could memorize all the formations, it would help him play quicker, particularly early against the 49ers.’’
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1) AMAZING that he doesn’t know the playbook at this stage of the season.
2) Even MORE amazing that HE would tell that to the guys who are going to broadcast the game.
LMFAO!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Oh yeah ….
3) AMAZING that the coaches would play the guy who doesn’t know the playbook.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
— When Quentin Groves recovers sufficiently from a hamstring pull, Cable said he would return to weak side linebacker and Trevor Scott would go back to the three-man rotation at end along with Matt Shaughnessy and Lamarr Houston.
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VERY disturbing!
If If Scott ends up starting over ShoNasty again ….
SAD!!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
A.B Paine,
BrownStains is an Internet Troll. No need to bother with him.
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What Is A Troll?
The term derives from “trolling”, a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.
Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.
Why do trolls do it?
I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.
Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?
Remember that trolls are cowards; they’ll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that’s what they do!).
http://www.flayme.com/troll/#Why
October 20th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Kell, I don’t believe MistabrOwn is a troll. I just think he is tea party douche bag.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
A.B = B.S
I have never attended or donated $ to a tea party.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.
Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
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LMFAO!
Did you make that up Kell?
Strong and successful??????
Who would that be?
LMFAO!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Kell, I don’t believe MistabrOwn is a troll. I just think he is tea party douche bag.
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That too.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
http://www.flayme.com All about trolls.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
A.B = B.S
I have never attended or donated $ to a tea party.
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Sorry, I meant Fox News zombie douche bag.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Strong and successful??????
Who would that be?
LMFAO!
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That would be his perception of me.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Please stop mentioning Chaz Shillens. My god!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
BOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I’m not really looking forward to Cable getting fired during the season. I can’t imagine anyone else on the staff being ANY better.
Hue slobbers Al’s jewels more aggressively than Cable does.
Marshall and his lineups are a joke! And he looks old as dirt!
Hope Al will hire a reputable coach after the season, and let him bring in his own staff. Doubt it though.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
I really hope that the next coaching staff has lots of experience and success in the positions that they are hired for.
No HC with zero NFL coaching experience.
No OC without a history of success in the position.
No DC without a history of success in the position.
You know …. QUALIFIED APPLICANTS ONLY AL!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
WR coach with experience please inquire within!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
WANTED: RB coach!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
HELP WANTED !!!!!!
O Line Coach
Inquire within.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
A.B = B.S
I have never attended or donated $ to a tea party.
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Sorry, I meant Fox News zombie douche bag.
…………..they should ban fox news that takes good people and turns them into freaks.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
J Hill, I’ve watched a lot of football in my life, I wonder if Al would hire me for a coaching position.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Jmcclain, get a life.
Ur right man. I should get a life. Ur an idiot. Who the heck are you to tell me to get a life.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
A.B.
You’re certainly qualified for the current staff.
Looking for an upgrade next year though.
Sorry Bruh!
October 20th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
well at 53 i could do better than any of our qbs so im coming back get your popcorn and a fat kidd jersey and start talking playoffs.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
12.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Don’t blame Al Davis for the Michael Huff draft pick…he wanted Matt Leinart!
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Liar. And an amateur one, at that.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Jmcclain Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Jmcclain, get a life.
Ur right man. I should get a life. Ur an idiot. Who the heck are you to tell me to get a life.
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Every day you come in here spamming us with links to bleacher report. The only thing that site is any good for is pictures of hot chicks.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Until Al Davis starts hiring championship pedigree coaches and then let these coaches make the decisions on the field, we will continue to suck.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Bleacher Report is to journalism what miniature golf is to golf.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Cables job is in trouble, he should of pulled Campel out in the 49r game we deserved to lose that game, I can’t say Bollers a Paytton Manning but anyone last sunday would of been better than Cambell.
If we can’t win the next two games Cable will be changing zip codes soon, it’s not like we have a lot of talent but we have enough talent to have a better record than this, this is not just bad Qb play but it has do to with coaching
October 20th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Jason Campbell splits snaps, but will start if healthy
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 20, 2010 6:46 PM ET
Jason Campbell was healthy enough to take half of Oakland’s first team reps at practice Wednesday. And if he’s healthy enough to play on Sunday, he will be Oakland’s starting quarterback again.
Raiders coach Tom Cable confirmed that the quarterback pecking order remains the same in Oakland Wednesday afternoon, according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune.
Bruce Gradkowski will get his starting job back when he gets healthy, but he didn’t practice Wednesday and looks unlikely to be ready because of his shoulder injury.
Campbell is still ahead of Kyle Boller, although Boller oddly took half of the team’s snaps at practice. Earlier Wednesday morning, Cable said he had “no idea” who will start. Campbell’s ability to practice indicates he’s likely to get the call.
Running back Darren McFadden also returned to practice, although it was a light session. If McFadden can practice Thursday, it appears he’ll play against the Broncos.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
That basically means retiring, Armchair. This notion that Al Davis can let a coach coach while he’s active in football operations is just insane. As long as he’s sitting next to the switch, he’s going to play with it. The only way he gets a real coach or GM, like Parcells or Madden, is if he guarantees them control, in writing. He’ll never do that. And he’ll always meddle over the no-names like Cable. Basically, Armchair, the Raiders are going to suck until hell has reclaimed its lost son.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
JC plays slow like he’s on MEDS, or the ‘Purple Drank’…maybe he found a stash in JR’s old locker…
Week 5 and he’s TRYING to memorize the formations???
Heard that too during the game…PATHETIC
October 20th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Wrong A.B only done it twice. If you don’t like my posts don’t read them. Maybe I should go over what I’m gonna post with you before I post things. That way I could get ur permision. Ur right though There are some hot chicks on there.
October 20th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
VanHeathen Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Week 5 and he’s TRYING to memorize the formations???
Heard that too during the game…PATHETIC
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How can that be? They don’t test that in the QB meeting room?
October 20th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Didn’t Jamarcus win his past two games at Denver?
Maybe Cables on to something here…
October 20th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
12.DutchRaider77 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Don’t blame Al Davis for the Michael Huff draft pick…he wanted Matt Leinart!
Liar. And an amateur one, at that.
REALLY, I LIED. Man, it must suck when everyone makes you look like a Jack@$$. Unless you are calling Jerry a liar.
FROM JERRY’S BLOG:
– “Al Davis, at one time, liked Leinart. Someone in the room the day Art Shell was fired says Davis blamed the former coach for taking Michael Huff over Leinart (or more accurately talking Davis into drafting Huff over Leinart).-”
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/09/01/the-leinart-rumor/
October 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Why is Ford starting ahead on NMiller? Ford’s ball security leaves much to be desired. NMiller has better hands. So here’s where we stand:
• DBH – still working on holding onto the ball
• Murphy – Still learning but semi-injured at the moment
• JLH – Still flaky around the edges. Never sure of who’s showing up
• Schilins – getting closer they say but, to what? Maybe 2011.
• Ford – Fast but has ball security issues. Not sure-handed as need be yet.
• NMiller – Always seems to show up when given the opportunity. Has great hands and is an illusive runner of good speed. Short in stature but makes up for it with mind-blowing catches.
Given the above assessment, I ask once again. Why isn’t NMiller starting? Hopefully, one of these days, the Raider coaches will get their head out of their a$$e$ and start playing the best players.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
B Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Why is Ford starting ahead on NMiller? Ford’s ball security leaves much to be desired. NMiller has better hands. So here’s where we stand:
• DBH – still working on holding onto the ball
• Murphy – Still learning but semi-injured at the moment
• JLH – Still flaky around the edges. Never sure of who’s showing up
• Schilins – getting closer they say but, to what? Maybe 2011.
• Ford – Fast but has ball security issues. Not sure-handed as need be yet.
• NMiller – Always seems to show up when given the opportunity. Has great hands and is an illusive runner of good speed. Short in stature but makes up for it with mind-blowing catches.
Given the above assessment, I ask once again. Why isn’t NMiller starting? Hopefully, one of these days, the Raider coaches will get their head out of their a$$e$ and start playing the best players.
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Boy am I going to feel sick if the Raiders wind up cutting Nick Miller outright after this year and he goes on to beast it up somewhere else….because the Raiders would do that.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Everyone, I’m sure, is well aware of the fact that Campbell isn’t the QB that will take us to the top. Grad’s a much better leader and has the ability to spark out entire team, not just our offense. Will Grad take us to the SB? I doubt it, but he will definately give us more wins! WE NEED YOU BACK BRUCE!!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Jacoby Fords draft status (salary) > Nick Miller.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
When JCampbell walks into the huddle, he is but 1 of 11 players. When Bruce walks into the huddle, he is the leader of the 11 players. Bruce perceives himself as THE man. JCampbell perceives himself as A man. Therein lies one of the major differences between the play of the two QB’s. Bruce is quick to react, sometimes being too quick, while JCampbell is a slow reactor. NFL QB’s cannot be slow reactors. Their mind has to be programmed to deal with a sight picture and also be wiling to not doubt themselves and pull the trigger when the sight snaps into place. JCampbell has confidence issues and can only play safely. He’s probably had ball security hammered into over the years where it’s better, in his mind, to play it safe rather than possibly losing the ball. After 5 years in the league, he’s now become damaged goods. He’s not going to be able to change those now ingrained concerns. Since arriving at Oakland, it can only be said that he has regressed to a point of no return. Cut him lose now. There is nothing to be gained by keeping him on the roster. Go find another prospect to fill the void. Colt Brannan perhaps? Better yet, just trade for Mike Vick.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
First, Al always says a few later that it wasnt him who picked the player… well if the player panned out to be bad… if its a great player he wanted him all along since high school…
Secondly, from what I know today, I still would have picked Huff over Leinert… but at the time I wanted Donte Whitner…
October 20th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
so campbell and boller both get hurt in 1st qtr shane lechler comes in and goes 33-35 for 546 yards sounds about right george blanda could do it.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Dutch great recall on post #12
October 20th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Jacoby Fords draft status (salary) > Nick Miller.
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SFW. I know what you are saying but that really is a lame way to run a railroad. Play the guy that produces the best results. Anything other than that is crap. That mentality will win you the cellar. I guess that just proves we’ve worked hard to gain our leading position in the basement.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
I can’t believe Davis didn’t take Cutler in that draft. He seems more like a Davis QB than Leinart.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Tricky I am concerned the Chiefs pick up Mr. Nick Miller.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Mr. Lechler will play QB in the 4th qtr, lead the Raiders to a victory, and the QB controversy.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
We can only hope Campbell gets hurt in the 1st qtr.Actually,hopefully he’ll get hurt in pre-game warmups.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
begins
October 20th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Seriously:
Raiders 28 Denver 10
Raiders first blow out vicory in years.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
I wonder how poor Mistic is taking the news that his favorite QB is dumber than Jamarcus
October 20th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Or better yet,he gets into an accident on the way to the airport and can’t even make the trip.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I don’t wish any of our players injury for any reason. I just wish our coaching staff and/or AD show JCampbell the same humanity they’d show an damaged beyond repair animal – put them out of their misery. Cut JCampbell now and bring in different talent. His 15 minutes of notoriety is over. It’s time to move on.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Raiders will rush for over 150 yards and hold Denver under 50 yards rushing;
Raiders will intercept Orton 3 times and sack him 5 times;
Raiders will score on defense and/or special teams;
Raiders will not turn the ball over at all;
Raiders defense will dominate since Denver does not have a premier runningback they will be able to stop the run with their front seven, safeties can cover deep, as the Broncos do not have a premier tight end either.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
were there any trades by any teams at the deadline yesterday?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Jason Campbell plays the game like he is in a perpetual state of a concussion.
I believe Jamarcus f’n Russell showed more fire between the stripes than Jason Campbell.
Aaron Brooks 2.0 . Said it from the jump.
And I doubt Jason will be as successful as Aaron has been in the Real Estate biz since retiring.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
JB,it would be great if that is the way it is handled,but since we know it won’t,I hope something happens to keep him out of the game.Nothing lasting,just something to keep him from playing.How about the measles?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Raiders will rush for over 150 yards and hold Denver under 50 yards rushing;
Raiders will intercept Orton 3 times and sack him 5 times;
Raiders will score on defense and/or special teams;
Raiders will not turn the ball over at all;
Raiders defense will dominate since Denver does not have a premier running back they will be able to stop the run with their front seven, safeties can cover deep, as the Broncos do not have a premier tight end either.
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Been smoking a little tonight, have we? Must be the good stuff. I’ll bet your rainbow has a pot of gold at both ends. Good for you! Keep a good thought.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
I have an idea knick pick our wrs and rbs instead of just understanding the fact that it takes the o line and qb. O line not only protects the qb but also can prevent any defense to be able to constantly blitz and attack. Defenses know our weakness. Until we fix that they will keep blitzing they will keep shooting gaps they will keep injuring raider qbs. Establish the line, establishes the run, off sets the safeties and lbs then allows the Recieving game to break out, especially with the play action with our outside speed and sure hands miller in the middle. Ask Fitzgerald how he loves playing for a poor line and qb! Murphy would be a solid #1 anywhere with that combo. Raider for life!
October 20th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
# lefty12 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
JB,it would be great if that is the way it is handled,but since we know it won’t,I hope something happens to keep him out of the game.Nothing lasting,just something to keep him from playing.How about the measles?
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LOL. I know your meaning but unfortunately AD needs to get smashed in the head with poor performance before he retracts all his platitudes and sends orders to separate. We saw that with JaLoser. We saw it with MeAngelo. we saw it with Yvonne Walker. The only thing they proved is that it took a major meltdown to get AD to react. I think JCampbell’s performance last week almost made the mark. If he plays again he should be able to earn the right to leave. If he’s sick or injured, he just hangs on to the roster spot and we get nothing in return. I want him gone. Whatever it will take to make that happen will be well received by many a Raider fan.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
I wang someone to once respond to my posts… Are they that bad or that true?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Ask Fitzgerald how he loves playing for a poor line and qb!
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Did the O-line just magicically get worse in AZ in one year?
It’s all about the QB!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
We need to blitz cutler like we did against rivers. And what we didn’t do against smith. Can’t let him pick us apart with passes down the field. I know blitzes don’t work all the time but they can cause mistakes. Blitz blitz blitz.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
How many first round picks have the Colts used on O-lineman? (Zero)
Their Left tackle is a converted collegiate TE, and a 6th round draft pick.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Run-JMc Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
I wang someone to once respond to my posts… Are they that bad or that true?
First learn how to spell want. Haha what up run-JMc.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
The Colts have run the same offensive system for what, 10 years?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
How many first round picks have the Colts used on O-lineman? (Zero)
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LOL!
Heeeerrrreeee we go.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Jmc they’re Both
October 20th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I actually thought Camplunkett did a decent job moving around in the pocket and scrambling. Too bad he didn’t know the plays so he could throw the ball to someone.
Really helps to know the plays man!
October 20th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Jeff Saturday Colts Center is All-Pro
Charlie Johnson Colts LT has Value Numbers like no other Raider O-lineman for the last 3 years.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnCh23.htm
October 20th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
So ….
Bob Gallery gets back in the lineup and our running game disappears.
Hmmmmm ….
October 20th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
jmcclain Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
We need to blitz cutler like we did against rivers. And what we didn’t do against smith. Can’t let him pick us apart with passes down the field. I know blitzes don’t work all the time but they can cause mistakes. Blitz blitz blitz.
cutler?
October 20th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Jeff Saturday = undrafted FA
Not saying the Colts don’t have a good O-line (although they always are at the bottom of the league in YPC, with 1st round picks at RB and the best passing game in the world) it’s just how they have been assembled.
Undrafted C, 6th round pick at LT, undrafted G…….
October 20th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
The Raiders have invested WAAAAAYY higher draft picks on their O-line than the Colts have.
If the Colts ever spent a 1st round pick on a futre G, a 3rd round pick on a LT, and a 3rd and 4th round pick in the same draft for O-line depth, Peyton Manning might give back some of his salary.
October 20th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Jeff Saturday = undrafted FA
Not saying the Colts don’t have a good O-line (although they always are at the bottom of the league in YPC, with 1st round picks at RB and the best passing game in the world) it’s just how they have been assembled.
Undrafted C, 6th round pick at LT, undrafted G…….
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O.K. I understand. Coaching & Stability & Winning Environment.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
I think Cable already know Boller will start. He just doesnt want Denver to prepare for Boller only. He wants to mess with Denver a bit. Not sure if it makes any diff. I think Boller should at least know the formation by now.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Fat Kidd Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
jmcclain Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
We need to blitz cutler like we did against rivers. And what we didn’t do against smith. Can’t let him pick us apart with passes down the field. I know blitzes don’t work all the time but they can cause mistakes. Blitz blitz blitz.
cutler?
Oh sh!t lol I meant Orton. Wow my bad
October 20th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
JFB is on fire tonite. Dude, where you been?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
JFB
Given what you’re saying the Colts still have the #2 O-Line.
Al Davis once said a loooong time ago “Organizations Win Championships.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&tabSeq=2&qualified=true
October 20th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Man I really sh!t the bed on that one! Damm iPhone auto spell!
October 20th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
O.K. I understand. Coaching & Stability & Winning Environment.
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Or a World Class QB.
Not like the Colts were the epitome of success prior to Peyton’s arrival (hence the #1 overall pick with Manning)
October 20th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Jmcclain Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
We need to blitz cutler like we did against rivers. And what we didn’t do against smith. Can’t let him pick us apart with passes down the field. I know blitzes don’t work all the time but they can cause mistakes. Blitz blitz blitz.
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Cutler? My God, you are a moron!
October 20th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
What’s going on AIG??
National Save for Retirement Week, got to go run to a police station for a 10pm briefing; no shifts in sales right?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Hill I was wondering the same thing myself about Gallery starting and the run blocking completely disappeared, especially to the left side.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
On a brighter thought Bill Parcells is taking a leave of absence from any front office duties, consulting with the Dolphins.
Al has huge respect for Bill and Bill is getting that itch to walk the sidelines again.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
JFB,
I figured you were busy selling dude. No shifts in sales. I take calls at nite and on weekends all the time. Good to see you on here again. Voice of reason bro. You’re just not as angry as I am when I see stupidity on here aka JaPuke worshippers.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
on a more serious realistic note:
one thing I noticed in jerry’s column;
Mr. Shaughnessy better start, he has earned it over Mr. Scott.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Trevor Scott should not be taking ANY snaps away from ShoNasty. I really don’t understand why ShoNasty gets pulled on 3rd downs?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Or a World Class QB.
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And since there aren’t any of those lying around, we need to be of those teams focusing on upgrading the O line talent.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Al has huge respect for Bill and Bill is getting that itch to walk the sidelines again.
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I just can’t see that happening man.
October 20th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Who’s gonna cover Haven Moses?
October 20th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Someone mentioned Al Davis is in POOR HEALTH. I’ve been hearing that for years.
Is there any truth to that? If so we have an 81 yr. old ELDERLY man in POOR HEALTH who is the acting GM and is the one caling all the shots (including personnel and scheme determination)for a pro football franchise in the modern era of football.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Anything’s possible if Big Al called he just might answer YES!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Bill Parcells as Al Davis’ stooge, really?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I want the “Old Al” back. The one who would actively look for ways to improve the team. Trades, acquisitions, etc. How come we see nothing?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
The way the Raiders reverted to the old “system” in the SF game didn’t bring the turnaround in fortunes for the Raiders like I hoped. Like the snake-bitten karma had finally been exorcised after beating the dolts. Not that I was holding my breath. What’s with this team that is not able to deal with success?
In the SF game, the defense finally broke down and couldn’t make a stop when needed. The offense reverted sadly to the stale and predictable play-calling book that plays for field goals, instead of what we saw in the second half of the SD game.
Campbell again goes back to what I thought he always was. Was that a 10 QB rating? 82 yards? Are you kidding me? That was pure Russell Purple Drink stuff. I can’t believe that Boller isn’t that much better than Campbell to play ahead of him.
And, I am sure Gradkz is nothing more than a back-up, of course he is not that much better than Campbell either, but just about any current qb in the NFL is better than Campbell.
Yes, Gannon was a perennial back-up, but was able to make the necessary plays in Oakkland because those Raider teams went far beyond the Raider playbook with Chokey at the helm.
I truly believe that the Raider playbook makes bad qbs such as Campbell worse. In the SF game, Campbell looked more like the reincarnation of JaMarcus than Plunkett.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
149.J Hill Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Trevor Scott should not be taking ANY snaps away from ShoNasty. I really don’t understand why ShoNasty gets pulled on 3rd downs?
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Cable has a history of playing lesser players over better ones.
Just from the top of my head:
Russell over anybody
Fargas over DMAC/Bush
DHB over Murphy
Eugene over Branch
Morris over Satele
Campbell over Grads
October 20th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Those flashy off-season FA signings by Al Davis, Randy Moss etc, did nothing but string the blindly optimistic along for another year.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Denver 24, Raiders 6.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Gee, I wonder if Orton is going to test our weak corners and safeties? No turnovers would = no chance!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
159.KoolKell Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Those flashy off-season FA signings by Al Davis, Randy Moss etc, did nothing but string the blindly optimistic along for another year.
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Yeah. Like me. I prefer that over doing NOTHING. That’s just boring. This team as assembled is going nowhere.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
I don’t know if there are even any more blindly optimistic fans, Kell. I think they just feel compelled to defend the Raiders because they argue so much with fans of other teams. Then of course you have your shills like Priest and Mistic. These guys don’t even believe their own words. I frankly think they’re just bored and baiting the more realistic fans that are fed up. Especially Mistic. He just basically says whatever delusional thing he can say about Al Davis that he knows will make Al’s haters respond in a fury. It’s a craft. Priest might be the one lone optimist left. I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. But not Mistic. No way. This guy is having fun with us. I’m telling you that right now.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
PLEASE REMEMBER FOLKS. IF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DEFENSE DON’T BLAME BASIC CABLE. HE ISN’T THAT STUPID. NOTHING SPECIAL BUT NOT THAT STUPID. UNCLE AL HAS DICTATED WHOM WILL BE REPLACED AND WHEN AT SAFETY. HE IS WATCHING THE SAME GAME WE ARE. COMPANY LINE FROM UNCLE AL. ALSO JC IS STARTING THIS WEEK BECAUSE CABLE AND JACKSON DAVIS CAN LIVE WITH GRADS BEING A REPLACEMENT BASED ON LAST YEAR BUT NO WAY RELEGATED TO 3RD STRING WHEN HE HAS A MODICUM OF HEALTH. UNCLE ALS EGO IS TOO GREAT AFTER THE JAPURPLEDRANK EXPERIENCE AND UTTERING HIS IMPETUOUS WORDS THAT JC IS ANOTHER PLUNKETT. GOOD NIGHT NOW
October 20th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
161.beach Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Gee, I wonder if Orton is going to test our weak corners and safeties? No turnovers would = no chance!
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C’mon man. You have to trust our head coach. He says that they are playing at a “high level”. So there you go.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Why can’t we find playmakers to play on our defense? Every other team in the league has at least one defensive player that can create turnovers. Come on, McClain! It’s time to grow up and make something happen.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Why can’t we find playmakers on defense? Because Al Davis is drafting for us. An 80 year old, well documented senile man is the general manager of this team. Are you really having trouble piecing that together?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Why can’t we find playmakers on defense?
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Cable is still our COACH!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
I’m telling you, you could put a 10 year old girl in charge of the Raiders and she’d have a better defense than what we have now fielded by the opening of next season. That’s how bad Al is. Just let the league draft for us, give us the default player with the best rating, stats, etc. no one else picks each round. Let a computer do it. We would be better. That’s how bad it is.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I know how you feel KooKoo being a stooge and all but just because you happen to be one (Larry, Moe and Curly) they all you Larry(look just like him) doesn’t mean that it’s the thing to do.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
if we drafted Suh..he probably would be our WLB since we have such a problem playing natural position…(punter at QB is the most outrageous so far)
October 20th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
We don’t have a coach, Ray. We haven’t had a coach since Gruden was ran out, and Al’s not going to allow another Gruden. That’s why Kiffin was dealt with swiftly. If Cable tried to go Gruden/Kiffin/Shannahan, what have you. Basically if he tried to speak like a man and run the team his way, Al would fire him with cause and he’d never see what’s left of his contract. Cable’s not that rich. He would need that money. Blaming him is blaming the victim. Period.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
we have a coach RMR…AL DAVIS…plain and simple.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Cable noted the improved play of Mike Mitchell of late and was asked about the possibility of him competing for a job as a starter, displacing Michael Huff, or, more likely strong safety Tyvon Branch.
“No, I think we’re pretty set at those two spots. We’re pretty set there.’’
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Cable needs to get his head out of his @$$!!
Making comments like that make me sick to my stomach!
You gotta play the best player available in their position.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Just got off the phone again with Al. Seems like we’ve been talking a lot these past couple of weeks.
We sure spend a lot of time with pleasantries, but after that, I tell you what, he is one angry hombre…
And when I say angry, I dont mean he’s pissed. He was angry. You would of thought I was talking to an angry Sears customer who just bought a lemon lawn mower.
I think I got him going when I hinted it was his idea to start Jason in Denver. Said he was sick and tired of bringing in qbs’ who couldn’t smell their asss if their head was buried in it! (go figure).
Said he was surprised Bush couldn’t pound it in last Sunday, but hinted that if they could score from 50-60 out, they wouldn’t have the red zone problems they got now.
Again, he confided things to me I dare not repeat. But I can say this, if things go bad Sunday in Denver, you will have to re-think the meaning for ugly. It won’t be pretty. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the coaches and players take a bus home.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
That’s what he’sdoing maybe you don’t agree with it but that is what he’s doing. You’re essentially saying you know better.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
# bboyink Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
we have a coach RMR…AL DAVIS…plain and simple.
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LOL. If you want to call that a coach. LOL. It’s like calling Lady Gaga a singer.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
the only good news is they cant f”"K it up any worse than they have it now!Trades,coaches,players -they are the worst
October 20th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
The scapegoating of Cable has begun. The kool aid drinking fans are going along. Next year, Hue. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
All I know is that I don’t give a crap how…we better beat the DOnks!
I don’t care if its DMAC running and throwing the ball…to HIMSELF!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Until Raider fans hold Al Davis accountable, the post Super Bowl 37 meltdown continues. The billboard’s a start. Raider fans need to step it up. Al needs to see a completely empty stadium one game.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
MR…it was close…Houston 2 weeks ago was more than half empty!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
And SF may be hoisting a World Series Championship Flag next week. What has the world come to?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
7 years and counting. 3 years to go to hit the decade mark. A decade of losing goes a long way to dissolve a legacy of winning the Raiders were once known for. I hope Al’s thinking hard about it. If the Raiders go a decade losing like this, those 10 years will be mentioned along with any accolades the Raiders have historically earned.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I hear ya Beach…I hear ya…that just sux!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
HMMM BABY! GIANTS!!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Only loser owners fail for 10 years straight. That worst of the worst list doesn’t allow exceptions for owners who once won. Once you hit the 10 year mark of losing, you belong to a special club.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Sux? No way baby! That’s sweet music! Pain reliever for the grief that my Raiders cause me.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
176.priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
That’s what he’sdoing maybe you don’t agree with it but that is what he’s doing. You’re essentially saying you know better.
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Priest, be honest with me. You don’t think you and I could draft better than the Managing General Partner?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
if things go bad Sunday in Denver, you will have to re-think the meaning for ugly. It won’t be pretty. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the coaches and players take a bus home.
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Really? Do you really think Al Davis cares about winning?
October 20th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Want a good laugh? Read the article and comments here:
http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2010/10/showtimes_inside_the_nfl_to_pr.html#_logout
It’s about a JaMarcus Russell comeback.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
184.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
7 years and counting. 3 years to go to hit the decade mark. A decade of losing goes a long way to dissolve a legacy of winning the Raiders were once known for. I hope Al’s thinking hard about it. If the Raiders go a decade losing like this, those 10 years will be mentioned along with any accolades the Raiders have historically earned.
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Luckily, I’ve seen the good. I feel bad for the entire generation that only associates the Raiders and Al Davis as losers!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
JaMarcus…comback? That itself is a good laugh!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Yup! I’ve seen the good and that is how I will always remember the Silver and Black! Hoping for a turnaround one year, but how long more? Geez…I wanna see another Bo running over Boz at least one more time…
# beach Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
184.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
7 years and counting. 3 years to go to hit the decade mark. A decade of losing goes a long way to dissolve a legacy of winning the Raiders were once known for. I hope Al’s thinking hard about it. If the Raiders go a decade losing like this, those 10 years will be mentioned along with any accolades the Raiders have historically earned.
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Luckily, I’ve seen the good. I feel bad for the entire generation that only associates the Raiders and Al Davis as losers!
October 20th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
190.djohnnyg Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
if things go bad Sunday in Denver, you will have to re-think the meaning for ugly. It won’t be pretty. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the coaches and players take a bus home.
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Really? Do you really think Al Davis cares about winning?
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Oh he cares about winning, I can vouche for that. Still thinks he can steer the ship. But between you and me, he’s doing it in a storm and refuses to listen to his most trusted advisors (cause me thinks he dont trust them), and personally I think he’s lost the ability to evaluate talent like he once did. He’ll spend the big dollars, but he doesn’t know what he’s buying.
October 20th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Beach I’ll be perfectly honest with you until you’ve been in a warroom you have no freakin clue dude. Seriously!!
We’re fans we can second guess everything after the fact and question every move that didn’t work. You do that job one day and you’ll go back to whatever it is you do.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Too funny…getting back his burst and then darts off when asked about his knee…lol
# Injured wide receiver Chaz Schilens appears to be getting back some of his burst, as well. He appeared in the locker room during media access for the first time since the regular season started Sept. 12, then darted off before anyone had a chance to ask him about his left knee. Schilens had knee surgery Aug. 24 and was expected to miss three to six weeks, according to Cable. The two-month mark arrives Sunday, and there still is no definitive timetable for his return.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_16373101
October 20th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
# Cable said he “wouldn’t be surprised” if the Raiders made a trade or two before today’s deadline. He said he was unaware of any trades being discussed.
When was the last time that happened?
October 20th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
hwnrdr Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
# Cable said he “wouldn’t be surprised” if the Raiders made a trade or two before today’s deadline. He said he was unaware of any trades being discussed.
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Just plain old double-speak.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
We need to fire Cable ASAP!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
I’m sick of Cable. He plays who he likes and boy based on how they play. MM was playing well, so why not start him or increase his playing time?!
Where is B Campbell?!?!?!
Damn you Cable!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Cables name was pulled out of a hat. He is doing the best he can. I’ve spoken to the man. The job is not as easy as it looks.
He quit talking to me for a few days when I told him he makes the job look harder than it should be, but now I understand.
If we can finish 12-4, he’ll be back.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Winning the next 10 games is possible, but I somehow don’t see that happening…I say if we play the way we played against SD…9-7, but…
October 20th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
When I think of the way we played SD, SF pops up to. Makes me dizzy to think about it.
The scenarios are endless.
So I try not to think.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Raider O Cab;le is supposed to play who he thinks is best we don’t have to agree with him but that’s not his job to please fans. His job is to play who he thinks can win for him. I think as fans we think we know more but we don’t.
You say one thhing and another fan says something else, whta’s he supposed to do? he cannot please us all. He plays what he thinks is best.
Wether we like it or not, is not his concern. And it shouldn’t be.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
196.priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Beach I’ll be perfectly honest with you until you’ve been in a warroom you have no freakin clue dude. Seriously!!
We’re fans we can second guess everything after the fact and question every move that didn’t work. You do that job one day and you’ll go back to whatever it is you do.
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I can’t say you are wrong, but I would love to be in that position one time, maybe as a college scout.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
I wasn’t talking about Raider fans remembering the good with the bad, I was talking about everyone else. People who aren’t Raider fans are going to remember 10 years of failure just as much as the winning in the far past. More so, considering how recent the losing is.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
The way this season is turning out…I’ll be happy with 7-9!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Thats if we’re lucky!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Good night Raider Nation!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
True, RMR. Sad, but true. I’m struggling with the fact that the team looked like it had a real fighting spirit for 5 weeks, and then this game vs. SF happens (especially the offense). I thought after San Diego, we were heading out of the darkness.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
The ‘fighting spirit’ took off after JC was announced the starter…outside fo dump offs to the right flat, and 12 yarders between the numbers, JC has NOTHING!
No wonder the 9ers were able to take away the passing game…he couldn’t even complete a successful screen pass on 3 tries Sunday…this kid is DONE!
October 20th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Beach I’ll be perfectly honest with you until you’ve been in a warroom you have no freakin clue dude. Seriously!!
We’re fans we can second guess everything after the fact and question every move that didn’t work. You do that job one day and you’ll go back to whatever it is you do.
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That’s a damned lie. There’s plenty of people who can do that job. Just like the rest of NFL professionals in other organizations.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Well I’ve been in the position to see enough to know that I don’t know squat. Those guy’s do a great job that is a year round effort and it’s nonstop pressure beyond anything you can imagine.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Well I’ve been in the position to see enough to know that I don’t know squat.
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Then why do you call people names who disagree with you?
October 20th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
priesttj….we need a priest or a rabbi or a minister in the warroom at this point. bottom line is a real, true person up to date with today’s modern football operation is all we need. period, end of story. he will hire the right coaches, player personnel director etc and the culture will automatically change from the top down. my mom is in her early 80’s. she ran a school system for years. she admits she could not handle all the day to day pressures that come with it. yet uncle al marches forward.
October 20th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
We’ll need a miracle to beat Denver in Denver on Sunday folks. JaMarcus Russell ain’t walkin through that door!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
We’re fans we can second guess everything after the fact and question every move that didn’t work.
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I’m sure you did it with Kiffin and Gruden, just as much as anybody is doing it right now with Cable.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
175.DaRayduh Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Just got off the phone again with Al. Seems like we’ve been talking a lot these past couple of weeks.
We sure spend a lot of time with pleasantries, but after that, I tell you what, he is one angry hombre…
And when I say angry, I dont mean he’s pissed. He was angry. You would of thought I was talking to an angry Sears customer who just bought a lemon lawn mower.
I think I got him going when I hinted it was his idea to start Jason in Denver. Said he was sick and tired of bringing in qbs’ who couldn’t smell their asss if their head was buried in it! (go figure).
Said he was surprised Bush couldn’t pound it in last Sunday, but hinted that if they could score from 50-60 out, they wouldn’t have the red zone problems they got now.
Again, he confided things to me I dare not repeat. But I can say this, if things go bad Sunday in Denver, you will have to re-think the meaning for ugly. It won’t be pretty. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the coaches and players take a bus home.
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At the risk of being the idiot who doesn’t get the joke
are you claiming you REALLY did talk to Al Davis ? I’m not saying I believe you, I’m just curious if that is what you are claiming.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
i hear Al still has weekly phone conversations w/ Bill Walsh…
October 20th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Shrek and Donkey, oops i mean Cable and Hue,
need to tell Puss n’ Boots, oh, i mean, Campbell to throw it to the WR’s this sunday…
October 20th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
If Campbell does start, can somebody please let him know that this is a MUST WIN, and for him to show some poise in the pocket and look like a man!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
How about JC completes a pass over 15 yds before the RAC…he hasn’t completed one yet.
the ball Murphy caught against SD only flew for 15 yds in the air…so much for the BIG ARM theory
October 20th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
There isn’t a bigger Grads supporter than me on this board.
But even I must admit it was sheer lunacy not to slide against the Texans on the play that he got crushed on.
Ironic that we’ve got a mutt like JaJason sliding two yards short of an easily attainable first down and managing to stay on the field when we don’t want him there, and a QB that we need on the field that isn’t smart enough to slide when necessary to stay healthy.
Chalk it up to inexperience, bravado, or a brain fart, but Grads refusal to slide against the Texans might very well have ended his season and the Raider’s season.
Not taking a time out in AZ was also another disastrous decision by Grads.
Got to use your brain Bruce. Have to play smarter.
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Another myth about Grads that has been debunked.
Myth: Grads is a smart player. The 16 he scored on the Wonderlic is pretty telling, huh?
October 20th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
I want him to look like a starting NFL QB. Look like he has a clue as what he can do to attack the defense and makes plays. That game was winnable if he steps his game up. And I know we can beat Denver if he does that. He has to tell the coaches to call what he’s comfortable running and then use the players accordingly.
I’m mad at him because I know that guy can play better than that but he goes out there like he’s unprepared to compete. The rest of the team sees that and there confidence is then lessened. He cannot play at half speed he has to attack them. What I saw in the SD game was a guy that has a chance to be good what I saw in SF was like a scared player who’s unsure of himself and everyone around him. I never want to see that again EVER!!
Just get off the field hand the ball to the next guy and take a shower and GO HOME! Don’t hold this team hostage to your lack of confidence.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Myth: Grads is a smart player. The 16 he scored on the Wonderlic is pretty telling, huh?
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You know how the stereotypes go.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
What JC likes to run is, dumps to the flat, screens and 15 yard passes between the numbers, that’s why SF was able to take the passing game away…
October 20th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
VH
The guys can throw deep I see it, he jsut needs to do it with some degree of confidence. He’s guessing and not anticipating. Those deep balls are there he just isn’t sure of himself and the way he throws it shows that.
I cannot emphasize it enough he has zero confidence in his players and himself. He’s playing on his athletic ability alone. The talent is there all of it, but you have to have some degree of confidence that when you cut it loose it gives the rec. every chance to catch he’s just heaving it out there and hoping they get it. That’s highschool stuff
October 20th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
I’m mad at him because I know that guy can play better than that but he goes out there like he’s unprepared to compete.
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Looks like he’s unprepared to compete? You heard what Gannon said. Dude doesn’t even know the playbook…and it’s late October! He is unprepared to compete. He doesn’t even belong in the league.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
The Re-Building Process
2003 4-12
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 2-14
2007 4-12
2008 5-11
2009 5-11
2010 2-4
October 20th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Looks like he’s unprepared to compete? You heard what Gannon said. Dude doesn’t even know the playbook…and it’s late October!
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RMR, the Dude has been there all off-season.
What’s going on in the QB meeting room?
October 20th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
That’s why I say Gannon is full of hot air. It’s not that he doesn’t know the playbook as much as it is he’s not comfortable running the entire playbook. Knowing the playbook and executing it is 2 different things. So it’s easy to be critical sitting in the press box same as it is for much to blast the guy.
But I don’t like his demeanor and his body language, I expect the timing to be off I expect him to struggle at times with certain players but he simly cannot show a defeatest attitude no matter what. That’s what I hate.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Years of a soft Run D.
Big money spent, New Defensive Coordinator
And the Raiders are STILL ranked #30 in Run D this year.
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Why are problems never fixed in Raiderland?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
djohnnyg Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
175.DaRayduh Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
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Just got off the phone again with Al. Said I just had a quick question, didn’t mean to bother him. He said no problem, he doesn’t sleep anyway. Said he hasn’t slept since january 26th of 2003.
I just wanted to ask him, well not ask but let him know RMR was pretty upset with him in this blog here and what could I tell him to make him feel better. He said he often wonders that himself, but won’t post anything here because to many people claim to be Al, and who would belive him. But he did say to tell RMR that he gets upset with himself too as of late, not so much because of the way the team has been as of late, but those 5 picks Gannon thru against TB. Said he was struggling to get past that, but for RMR to be patient, he’ll right this thing yet. He doesn’t want to hid the decade skid like RMR is worried about.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
That’s why I say Gannon is full of hot air. It’s not that he doesn’t know the playbook as much as it is he’s not comfortable running the entire playbook. Knowing the playbook and executing it is 2 different things. So it’s easy to be critical sitting in the press box same as it is for much to blast the guy.
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Do you believe Rich Gannon or…………..nevermind. Gnite.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Game against Denver gonna be hard to watch. I mean are offense just isn’t moving the ball at all. The d is what’s gonna kill us though. We have given up 12 passing td’s this yr 3rd worst in the NFL. Plus the broncos passing offense is ranked 3rd best in NFL at 300+ yds. = not a very good chance if beating them. Just hope Marshall mixes up some blitzes if are front four ain’t getting to Orton. Huff and branch got to play smarter. Give Mitchell some good playing time. Mcclain needs to bring his energy he had against the cardinals. It just seems weird when things go good for this team then all of a sudden it gets worse. Pride is something I believe that some NFL players just have there born and bread with it. It’s not just something you wake up and have. And some of the raiders frankly just don’t have it. Piznease out nation
October 20th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Priest,does not being sure of himself cause a long pass to be 5 yds short like the flea-flicker we started the last game with?Why isn’t he not executing?Could it be he can’t execute the plays?I,along with most others,believe that is the case.You are using the same arguments you used with the bust-he needs time,he has to get comfortable.Why doesn’t Grads need extra time?Why do rookies like Ryan,Flacco,Bradford,Stafford,the guy in TB,etc. come in and be successful without this extra time required by Campbell.The guy hasn’t been successful in ANY system he has been in as a pro.I don’t think he ever will .
October 20th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I Believe Gannon threw 5 int’s in the biggest game of his life and tries to take it out on everyone except himself. He blew a SB championship and he has to live with that for the rest of his life and taking shots at others helps him deal with that.
Campbell’s problem may be unsolvable because it’s the way he is has nothing to do with talent or ability to read defenses any of that stuff. He is just not as competitive as he needs to be. So we’ll see….
October 20th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Please tell Al I am not very happy either and if he decides to start Campbell I refuse to watch the game on Sunday.
I have no doubt that will affect him deeply.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
That’s why I say Gannon is full of hot air.
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Gannon’s lying, Priest? We’re going to play this game again?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
BTW,I know you have been critical of him all week.I just don’t understand how you can come on here and try to make any excuses for him.Your arguments would be valid if he was a 1st or 2nd year player,but he’s been in the league,what,6 or 7 years.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Jason Campbell Out Does JaMarcus RussellAUTHOR: Chris Shellcroft
A day to forget: Campbell made Alex Smith look good a JaMarcus Russell appear clutch. (Photo: YardBarker.com)
In a team sport like football it is unfair to place blame on one individual. No matter how poorly JaMarcus Russell played during his expensive tenure in Oakland, there were always other facets of the game that could be held to the same scrutiny.
Often the offensive line failed to give Russell enough time to get into his drop, never mind being able to scan the field. The defense would allow opposing offenses to score at will on long drives forcing the Raiders to change their offensive gameplan and in effect taking Russell out of whatever comfort zone he might have been in.
On Sunday, this was not the case for Jason Campbell.
To begin, Campbell is scheduled to have an MRI on his knee which is reported to have been injured during the first half of the pathetic 17-9 loss to the then winless 49ers. For what it’s worth, Campbell did look sharp early on with the exception being red zone execution – again. Perhaps the knee injury, which could be severe, was the biggest factor in his poor performance.
Injuries notwithstanding, Campbell out did JaMarcus Russell in ineptitude – a seemingly impossible feat – with a hideous 8 for 21, 83-yard, 2-INT, 10.7 QB rating performance.
For the record, not even a purple drank drunk slow motion Russell had a day this pathetic. From a jail cell somewhere, Ryan Leaf was popping pills to ease the pain of watching JC in action.
Campbell’s excuses are few. He got a solid performance from the O-line. The defense was dominant early. He had receivers getting open downfield. Hue Jackson dialed up some quality play calls. Campbell just flat out had the execution of Michael J. Fox performing brain surgery. He was shaky in the pocket, nervous under pressure, easily rattled, quick to scramble, slow to release quality throws and clearly has yet to fully grasp the offense. Kyle Boller, already labeled a bust after a disappointing career in Baltimore, is looking to be a better option if Bruce Gradkowski’s shoulder isn’t right for the date in Denver next Sunday.
Campbell doesn’t carry the full brunt of blame. The Raiders still have no answers for stopping the run. The secondary continues to give up big plays in-between moments of stellar play. The field remains littered with more yellow flags than white yard markers thanks to a continued lack of focus.
But that doesn’t excuse Campbell from being unable to get this team into the end zone. Three Sebastian Janikowski field goals wouldn’t be enough to beat De La Salle let alone a winless NFL team.
Where do the Raiders go from here?
Campbell is not the answer this franchise was looking for and he’s got another two years on his deal thanks to Al Davis granting JC a contract extension before ever putting on a silver and black shirt. Mr. Davis still hasn’t learned his lesson. Players must prove themselves first before being given the keys to the car. In the case of JaMarcus, Mr. Davis was at the mercy of the draft. With Campbell, there is no excuse. He was, after all, drafted to be the franchise in the Nation’s Capital and then became expendable in just four years as the starter.
Initially, the thought was Campbell couldn’t be any worse than JaMarucs so this team stands to improve. Hard to believe but after Sunday this team is worse with Campbell. For all his faults, JaMarucs Russell did have a knack for coming up big late in sloppy games like the one played in Candlestick Park yesterday (see victories in Kansas City and Denver one year ago). Given that Campbell has the reputation of being a hard worker and Russell was known for napping during meetings. Kinda makes you wonder just how bad Campbell truly is or how good Russell could have been.
But I digress…
Campbell was brought in to resurrect the ghosts of Raider Past. Instead, all he’s done is dusted off the jersey of #2.
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Great article. Pisses me off that every member of the national media convinced sheep Raider fans that cutting JaMarcus and trading for Campbell would be the answer to all the Raiders’ problems. Now we’re left with JC, Grads and Boller. It’s embarrassing really. The worst qB situation in the NFL bar none! And yes, that includes the Bills.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I Believe Gannon threw 5 int’s in the biggest game of his life and tries to take it out on everyone except himself.
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Priest, if you don’t want to sound like such a kool aid drinking shill, try not to repeat things that John Herrera has said practically verbatim.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Gannon threw 5 Int’s in the Super bowl, cause Al traded his coach to the team he ended up facing in the Super Bowl…Of course, our team stayed with gruden’s offense all year, terminology and all, and were easy picking on Super Sunday.
Oh yeah, Gannon’s All pro Center went AWOL and missed the SB, just to help matters…can’t understand why he didn’t make a MIRACLE happen.
Listening to ANYONE soin this on to Gannon is laughable and fraudulent…that Super Bowl loss was all Al’s doing, no one else to blame…
October 20th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
237.lefty12 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Priest,does not being sure of himself cause a long pass to be 5 yds short like the flea-flicker we started the last game with?Why isn’t he not executing?Could it be he can’t execute the plays?I,along with most others,believe that is the case.You are using the same arguments you used with the bust-he needs time,he has to get comfortable.Why doesn’t Grads need extra time?Why do rookies like Ryan,Flacco,Bradford,Stafford,the guy in TB,etc. come in and be successful without this extra time required by Campbell.The guy hasn’t been successful in ANY system he has been in as a pro.I don’t think he ever will .
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Thank you. Why do all those other players you mentioned NOT need a bunch of time to “develop” but all Raider QB’s do?
When are Raider fans finally going to stand up for themselves and say “enough is enough”.
I live in Chicago area so cannot join in any protests but fully support any such efforts if they occur.
When is this nightmare gonna end?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Do you realize Rich Gannon has more credibility with people outside of the Al’s kool aid drinking circle than the entire Raiders’ organization combined? Anyone in the Raiders can say anything about the era in which Gannon played. Anything. And Gannon could completely disavow whatever they said with one phone call.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Lefty12
What were his stats last year? You don’t do that in this league and can’t play we saw him beat us. I saw what he did to SD. I have no idea if he can be successful here but I see talent to be sucessful. What I don’t see is comfort and confidence. WQill he ever get it, who knows?? I didn’t know a thing about the guy when he got here but I see talent. Now can the coaches pull it out of him to be good. I don’t know.
But he is starting Sunday I don’t have a say in that I have to hope he can get it done or else we’re sunk. What wuld you like me to do?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
239.djohnnyg Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Please tell Al I am not very happy either and if he decides to start Campbell I refuse to watch the game on Sunday.
I have no doubt that will affect him deeply.
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Will do next time we talk. Contrary to popular belief, he is affected deeply by the way the fans feel. That billboard made an impact on him. Now you know he did not hire a gm, but before the season started, we looked pretty good. He actually did a little homework and it showed, til the season started that is.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Dear Al,
Gannon was a damn good QB for this team,
get over it!
don’t make ME get out the overhead projector and break it down for you ….
October 20th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I’ll bet the Raider defensive “players” are all excited about the news of the newly expanded fines for hitting too hard. Now they have a ready made excuse for not tackling. “Hey, I didn’t wanna get fined. You know about those new rules and stuff”.
Raider D doesn’t like to tackle anyway. This is perfect for them.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Rich Gannon was the best thing to happen to the Oakland Raiders since the drafting of Marcus Allen. The first thing Rich Gannon did when he got here is banned, on his own, didn’t care what Al or the coaches thought, not even Gruden, banned all of the recreational fun. The hindsight, wannabe ’70s Raiders attitude was out the door. There’s only one aspect of the ’70s Raiders that Rich Gannon allowed the team to emulate, and that was the hard work, dedication, and winning. Everything else was put on hold until things were turned around. Priest, you can think what you want of Gannon but without him, I can’t even begin to imagine how bad the Oakland Raiders’ all time won/loss record would be now. You think Kell’s numbers are annoying now…
October 20th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Al thinking Shanarat was going to send him any player that could help is delusional…
Deception is done to others,
delusion is done to yourself…
October 20th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
VH LOL try telling that to Jerry Rice and Tim Brwn and Charlie Garner. I bet you’d get a much different reaction. They were there and they were very upset at Gannon. No one else.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
We all know stats can be deceiving-garbage time,completing 5 yd dump offs when it’s 3rd and 15,etc.I for one hope he doesn’t start,but if he does and stinks up the place I hope they have the sense to put him on the bench before the game gets out of hand.It is possible he’ll have a decent game and as fans we have to hope we somehow pull out a win,but to be honest if he plays I have very little faith we will make a good showing let alone win the damn game.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
And don’t forget that Rich Gannon, statistically, is the second best Raider QB in Raiders’ history, second only to Ken Stabler, another high percentage, accurate passer who Al constantly made things miserable for. Theoretically I’d give Plunkett an honorable mention because two Super Bowls are huge in anyone’s book, but the numbers don’t lie. Statistically, Gannon was better, and Plunkett is 4th on the Raiders all time list. Gannon played a major part in changing the culture here from a losing one to a winning one, and he left only one QB on the all time roster of Raider quarterbacks with better numbers than him. He can criticize the way things work in Oakland all he wants to and this fan’s listening.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Well those are my sentiments as well but He’s our starter as of right now if Grads were there I’d feel the same way. If Boller were there I’d have the same hope. But to be honest I can’t believe he is as bad as he looked Sunday at least I hope not. I’m not at all saying he’s what we need, I’m saying I hope he comes through Sunday……period
October 20th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Also noteworthy, Gannon has the best QB rating in Raider history.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
MR will that help us Sunday? NO! so I’m not interested in Gannon’s stats so save it.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Sure TJ, i’ll ask them next time i talk to them, but could really care less, Al got cute w/ Gruden, and we all paid for it…anyone on Al’s payroll at the time isn’t going to call him out, so Gannon’s the easy target…of course Gannon was so bad, he stayed the starter here the following year…
just doesn’t add up, sorry
BTW: Herrera should stick to threatening whimpy journalists in the press room, he’s a TOOL!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
VH LOL try telling that to Jerry Rice and Tim Brwn and Charlie Garner. I bet you’d get a much different reaction. They were there and they were very upset at Gannon. No one else.
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Without Gannon here, Rice and Garner would have come to Oakland to die. No big games, no pro bowl stats, just a few dead years and an easy paycheck before heading off to pasture. Rice wouldn’t have come here if Gannon wasn’t here, anyway. Rice only came here because of Gruden and Gannon, which gave him a system he could shine in, and a chance to get one more ring.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
What I really can’t understand is after the way he has preformed so far this year how can he still be starting.If Boller is that bad,he shouldn’t be on the team.If they have so little faith in him,a young QB who could be brought along to possibly be the future should be #3,carrying the clipboard and learning,not a 6 year vet.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Well if you love Gannon that much why not marry him? sounds like a good mix.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Wow, I’m sorry, Priest. I wasn’t aware that I couldn’t talk about former Raiders in here and take pride in their accomplishments. Any other self made rules you have for a blog you have no control over? LOL. Character.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
If you hate Gannon so much, Priest, why don’t you find another team to root for? Gannon is the second best QB in Raiders history, and the best if you’re going by QB rating alone. And, he’s going to be the second best for a long time, possibly forever. If you don’t like that, you’re a fan of the wrong team. Gannon’s legacy is here to stay.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
With all of the mediocre Qb’s that have come thru this locker room inthe last 15 yrs, Gannon gets all the hate…he was the last Winner we’ve had at Qb, but he’s a bum compared to Jamarcus, Brooks, Collins, Walter, Tui, George, Hollas, Schroeder etc…
That’s a joke and makes anyone spewing it look like a passenger on the ’short bus’…
October 20th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Gannon doesn’t play here now fool maybe you haven’t noticed we have a game Sunday the last thing I’m interrested in is Gannon’s heroics.
You want to talk about the game Sunday I’m all ears otherwise talk to someone else.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Alright, I’ll talk about the game Sunday, Priest. We need the quarterback who plays the most like Gannon to start Sunday, and it’s not Campbell.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
the reality is, it’s not Gannon’s fault we lost the Super Bowl, it’s Gannon’s fault we were IN the Super Bowl..if he had just FAILED like the guys before him since Plunkett, and the ones since, he’d be a GREAT guy..
October 20th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Van Heathen, 2nd best QB in Raiders history! Highest QB rating in Raider history. This is why Al is so ridiculed anymore. No other organization in sports craps on former greats the way the Raiders do. Stabler, Allen, Gannon…the former two being the franchise leaders in passing and rushing yards, respectively, btw. It’s unreal.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:00 am
RUSSELL NEWS!!!
For those of you who actually care…
I don’t know if I am late on this or not, but I just watched an interview done by Showtimes Inside the NFL with Jamarcus Russell and here’s a few of the pointers I found interesting…
- He is now living in Houston and is in a 6 day a week training program done by a sports coach who used to be a basketball player I believe, John Lucas.
- When asked if he would play in the UFL, he said NO.
- When asked if he’s ready if any of the 32 NFL team would call this season, he abruptly corrected the reporter with “31″. An obvious knock on the Raiders.
- When asked if he would consider playing another position in the NFL, he chuckled and very harshly said “No, I’m a quarterback.”
Then he basically went on to say he’ll be back, he’s been training, and he can’t wait to show “those guys” what he’s capable of.
Sounds like someone got a chip on his shoulder. And is a little bitter he’s off the sizzurp…lol
To read more on the interview go to cbssports.com
October 21st, 2010 at 12:02 am
Gannon only threw two picks when the game still meant something. The last 3 were desperation in a game already lost. We were an offensive team and you have to hold the offense accountable, no doubt. So Gannon carried much of the burden. But the real nail in the coffin was Tampa’s 10 minute drive to start the second half. Tampa’s offense was far less than stellar, and Gruden just picked apart Al’s vanilla defense. Woodson playing injured? The very TD on that long drive was an out patter than had Woodson pivot on his hurt leg. Don’t ever accuse Gruden of not doing his homework.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:03 am
Point being ^^^ Woodson shouldn’t have been in that game. Can anyone say, scholarship? Woodson is a man coverage corner and has to have two healthy ankles, because he’s turning on them all day.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:08 am
Russell is better off where he is now than he is in Oakland. I wish I could say the Raiders were better off without him. Not with Campbell starting they’re not.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:18 am
john lucas Had a ton of issues when he played for the Houston Rockets with crack cocaine. He’s a recovering addict himself. He’s been very successful helping wayward athletes find themselves and becoming very productive returning to society. He has a long record of success. Russell was smart to hook up with someone of his ilk. Now the best thing Russell can do is forget his failures and move on with his career he was responsible for what happened here no one else.
Until he owns up to that, he’ll have problems. He has way too much talent to waste and has a lot to offer. But first he needs to understand that he is responsible for his own success or failure. NO ONE ELSE!!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:20 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:08 am
Russell is better off where he is now than he is in Oakland. I wish I could say the Raiders were better off without him. Not with Campbell starting they’re not.
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Hate to say it, but you’re right. There were a lot of people saying that JR was drafted by the wrong team and that oakland is a place where careers die. I fought that and wanted to see Al prove everyone wrong. We know how that turned out.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:24 am
Deb you’re really blaming Al Davis for giving him 60 million for his attitude? Come on man I mean I would love to have Russell right now but to blame someone else is ridiculous. Russell wouldn’t listen to anyone even his father and mother. It just didn’t work the Raiders gave him support if he had just shown that he recognize that. Take ownership of his own future.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:37 am
If that kid had shown half of what the Raiders wanted to see he’d be the Starter right now. His partying and drugs, hell he spent more time in Mississippi than he did here. He didn’t put near the work in he should’ve. Had he there is no way Mr Davis releases him. They hid a ton of stuff from the media concerning Russell if you only knew you wouldn’t side with him for one second.
He was immature and homesick, he was a small town kid in the big city and he never adjusted. Maybe now if he were here and competing things would be different because IMO we don’t have anyone with that kind of talent and ability to finish games. He had the an uncanny ability to win games at the end.
It’s the biggest shame ever in the history of this organization, but he made it unavoidable.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:40 am
TJ,
Not calling the guy blameless. But I saw a guy coming along his 1st couple of years. He made big plays against Buffalo late and against SD the next week in a close game. Then Kiffin, a good young coach, gets fired? Then after finishing the the last six games of the year strong, including two straight victories over good teams, the coaching staff changes again. The guy had a good thing going with Greg Knapp and John DeFillipo. Why the hell did Al let that get upset going into the next season? Then Chaz gets hurt and he gets Murphy and Heyward-Bey as rookies? I can’t think of a lot of players that could overcome that, including Gannon who I felt was overly critical of Russell. He should have worked harder, but the Raiders played a big part in his demise. I have no problem with his contract. He was picked #1 overall. It was the Raiders’ responsibility to make sure they got the most out of their investment by providing a stable environment and surrounding him with the protection and weapons to be successfull. Look at the Jets, Ravens and Falcons. I think they failed in that regard.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:42 am
JR should have only 1 choice of teams to play for…
the Raiders, a true ‘recovery’ would mean, making the situation right w/ the people he previously let down…
that person is Al davis, we should have right of first refusal should he be eligible to play again…it’s no where near fair, that we paid him for 2 seasons while he was strung out on codeine like he was…total crap!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:44 am
They hid a ton of stuff from the media concerning Russell if you only knew you wouldn’t side with him for one second.
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TJ,
I hear this a lot. What kind of stuff are you talking about?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:46 am
VanHeathen Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:42 am
JR should have only 1 choice of teams to play for…
the Raiders, a true ‘recovery’ would mean, making the situation right w/ the people he previously let down…
that person is Al davis, we should have right of first refusal should he be eligible to play again…it’s no where near fair, that we paid him for 2 seasons while he was strung out on codeine like he was…total crap!
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I’d be all for his coming back here. That would be true redemption. As presently constituted , I’m having a hard time getting behind this team. We have three scrubs at the most important position in the game.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:59 am
Vanilla D,true MR,when was the last time an offence called a timeout cause our D had them confused?
October 21st, 2010 at 3:00 am
JV moving up to varsity full time. Let’s see what he can do.
October 21st, 2010 at 3:49 am
Just Fire Baby…
Not to rain on your parade…
But Colts drafted with the 59th pick G Mike Pollak in 2008, and with the 42th T Tony Ugoh in 2007…
October 21st, 2010 at 5:22 am
I’d be all for his coming back here. That would be true redemption. As presently constituted , I’m having a hard time getting behind this team. We have three scrubs at the most important position in the game.
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Seriously? Bruce, JC and Boller are scrubs but you want to bring back Jameatball?
October 21st, 2010 at 5:27 am
Greetings from Podunk!
October 21st, 2010 at 5:34 am
good morning AM crew!
BCZ, LMN, Airborne, Mac …
October 21st, 2010 at 5:36 am
JERRY WRITES————————–
–Wednesday is typically the heaviest media day for an NFL team during the week, but the Raiders took the minimalist approach. No prior notification of opposing team conference calls (had to call the Broncos to find that out), no quarterback or coordinator to the podium and very few players with major roles in the locker room during the open session.
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If only oakland could game plan and execute football as well as they seem to execute their ability to allude and smokescreen the media, then maybe us fans wouldn’t have had to suffer for the past 7 yrs (about to be 8). Cripes, they’d probably be undefeated.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:37 am
after reading the past 3 days Raider news it looks like …
-DMAC is healthy.
-Brittle Bruce isn’t.
-Chaz & Big John probably wont be back until after the bye week
-Cable is still a wife beating buffoon
-my man JCamp let me down, but may get a shot at redemption
anything else I missed?
October 21st, 2010 at 5:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
LMN, Bcz24, Rockstar, 2sense…
October 21st, 2010 at 5:44 am
LMN,
Tony Ugoh is out of the league, and was replaced by a rookie, collegiate TE who was taken in the 6th round.
Colts didn’t really skip a beat.
The fact remains, undrafted C, another undfrafted G for years, 6th round pick at LT, and a #1 overall QB, a #1 pick at WR, a #1 pick at TE, and two #1 picks at RB.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:44 am
I dunno if it’s big news…. but Mario is permanent back up now.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:45 am
Mario is permanent back up now
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permanent ???
great day!
October 21st, 2010 at 5:47 am
good morning Hwnrdr, JFB, 2sense …
Happy Thursday
October 21st, 2010 at 5:48 am
Tafur reported on his twitter that Veld has been taking all of the first team snaps. So either Mario is injured… or he’s now the backup. Let’s hope for the latter.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:49 am
I must have missed when Veldheer was playing well.
I think he won by default.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:51 am
against Sandy Eggo & San Fran, JCamp missed a wide open Johnnie Lee at least 3 times!
he really needs to get it together … I haven’t given up on him yet, but if he plays against Dungver like he did the 0-5ers I may be ready to pull the plug
October 21st, 2010 at 5:53 am
He has also missed a wide open Murphy a few times in the SF game.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:54 am
JaMarcus Russell working hard
When’s the last time you ever saw those four words together? Anyway, the former Raider quarterback was on Showtime’s Inside the NFL last night. He has been working out with former Warrior John Lucas the last two and a half months in Houston and here is the five-minute segment on Russell and his comeback efforts.
Lucas is a life coach, and Russell has been working out six days a week.
While Russell has definitely lost some weight, he should have waited longer to do this interview. He didn’t say what he did wrong in Oakland, never admitted that he had a codeine problem, said he will be cleared in the codeine possesion case and that he wasn’t willing to go to the UFL to prove to NFL general managers that he was serious about playing again.
He said he has changed in the last two-plus months, but I didn’t buy it and I don’t think NFL people will either. Yet.
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
October 21st, 2010 at 5:55 am
Let me reword that. He failed to notice a wide open Murphy.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 5:49 am
I must have missed when Veldheer was playing well.
I think he won by default.
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Veldheer is the one who got Gradkowski injured. The most absolutely weakazz pathetic attempt at cutblock I’ve ever seen. He basically flopped down like a puppy who wants his belly rubbed while flailing his arms a bit and let the linebacker vault him.
If Veldheer at this stage is the better option over Henderson, that speaks far more about Henderson than it does about Veldheer.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:56 am
Mornin’ a.m. crew. I got a rant I want to type out if I can get my thoughts together and find the motivation. We’ll see.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:58 am
If Campbell plays, I am sure he will play better, but he is still a certifiable loser.
He ended the 2008 year going 2-6, went 4-12 in 2009, and is 0-2 here (although he did have the SD “comeback” where he came in with a lead).
That’s 6-20 in his last 26 games he has started and finished.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:59 am
Considering he’s a rook, we should at least have a an extra body next to him. Casually get him up to speed. I thought he played well in the second half of the game.
October 21st, 2010 at 5:59 am
If Campbell plays, I am sure he will play better, but he is still a certifiable loser.
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I agree, if only by default. If you’re putting out sub-JaMarcus Russell level performances, there’s nowhere to go but up
October 21st, 2010 at 5:59 am
my boy Travis Goethel is about ready. I hope they keep him on the shelf until after the bye week.
if McLame needs a breather, Mr T will come in and trash some RB’s behind the LOS !!!
there is a new ‘Lights Out’ in the AFC West and this one doesn’t wear purple or use illegal drugs
October 21st, 2010 at 6:00 am
Last I checked, John Lucas was another former athlete turned drug addict, who has had more success talking to inmates than developing QB’s.
Why does Jamarcus need to go get in shape with John Lucas, and spend the offseason’s when he was here getting “in shape” in AZ?
Do they not have a Gold’s Gym in Mobile?
October 21st, 2010 at 6:01 am
Good to see ya, RRS.
If Goethel outplays McClain, I will never stop laughing.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:02 am
I think Veldheer has a lot of raw talent and could be very good someday.
I don’t trust this coaching staff to develop it.
Although, there’s his short arms. Another Gallery?
October 21st, 2010 at 6:02 am
Do they not have a Gold’s Gym in Mobile?
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they obviously have more than enough pizza & burger joints!
October 21st, 2010 at 6:04 am
If Goethel outplays McClain, I will never stop laughing.
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whats up PA?
Al Davis always does better in Rounds 4-7, doesn’t he?
October 21st, 2010 at 6:06 am
whats up PA?
Al Davis always does better in Rounds 4-7, doesn’t he?
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Just real frustrated about a lot of stuff from Cable’s press conference. Slow day at work, which I ain’t gonna complain about.
He sure seems to. I can’t help but wonder if he only really gives a crap about people drafted in the 1st and 2nd rounds and lets the scouts and coaches determine things from the 3rd on.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:08 am
I’ll be honest. I’ve seen ROMAC make about 2 good plays in each game he has started …
but it was nice to read guys that are/were his biggest fans finally give an accurate assessment of his play on Sunday while I was blogging & watching the game live online at home
October 21st, 2010 at 6:11 am
Cable is the dumbest coach in America.
Every PC is the same,
Cable~ We’re trying some THINGS out…
Cable~ We have some STUFF to sort out…
IDIOT!!
October 21st, 2010 at 6:12 am
Dungver is going to torch us this weekend. 35-13…
October 21st, 2010 at 6:14 am
Good Morning everyone…
October 21st, 2010 at 6:15 am
I still cant fathom how you support Mr 10.7 but say Romac sucks.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:17 am
We had worse teams in the past that has beaten Denver in Denver…I still believe we can…but JC needs to wake the hell up and look down field at times…
October 21st, 2010 at 6:17 am
RRS, I copied and pasted this scouting report on ROMAC from a fantasy website I sometimes read. What do you think? You agree?
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What’s going on with Rolando McClain? Is he a buy low candidate or a bust?
McClain’s poor start is easily the most surprising development of the season to date. Every scouting report I read this winter acknowledged McClain’s lack of straight line speed and athleticism, but unanimously argued that his football instincts and intelligence would more than make up for those deficiencies. Given the poor competition for tackles, McClain looked to be a lock for 90+ solos and a LB2 floor. Six weeks into the season and we’re staring at a stat line of 21 solos, 12 assists and just a single pass defended. That has McClain ranked as the LB63 right now.
What’s wrong with McClain? There’s no single satisfying answer. I went back and watched every rushing attempt the Raiders have faced this season and a few issues are apparent. Most striking is that McClain is not playing downhill at all. He’s often a step slow after the snap, shuffling his feet and getting caught on his heels when a blocker gets into his body. Some of that is attributable to the read-and-react nature of defensive coordinator John Marshall’s scheme, but McClain seems to be reading his keys and playing his gap to the extreme. When there’s a clear lane to the back in his assigned gap, he accelerates and makes the play. When there isn’t, he’s slow to scrape and often ends up struggling to shed the block of an interior offensive lineman.
Is McClain a lost cause already? I’d argue that he’s not. At some point, McClain is going to get comfortable with the speed of the NFL and his instincts will take over. He’s actually doing exactly what he’s asked in the current scheme. There’s room to be both disciplined and downhill, however, and that’s what needs to happen for McClain to reach his LB2+ potential. There’s plenty of time for that to happen and there’s no guarantee that Marshall will be his DC for any length of time. If you can get him cheaply, do so. Redraft owners in shallow leagues should move on if they haven’t already, but current dynasty owners should absolutely hold through at least part of 2011.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:22 am
Raiders haven’t been blown out since week 1, take Den and the 9…
October 21st, 2010 at 6:22 am
I will put the JFB guarantee that Rolando McClain will make at least 2 Pro Bowls in his career.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:23 am
When Campbell found out he was the starter this weekend:
His palms got sweaty and he started to shake at first
Something told him “try to fake a stomach ache it works”
He screamed “Ow my appendix I think it burst”
Cable Cable quick I need a naked nurse
“Whats the matter?”
“I don’t know my leg it hurts”
“Leg? I thought you said it was your tummy?”
“Oh I mean it is but I also got a bum knee!”
“Mr. Campbell the fun and games are over, and just for that stunt your gonna get some extra practice work.”
“But dont you wanna bench me to get my attention?”
“Nah those Donkeys wanna beat your a$$ and Im’a let ‘em!”
October 21st, 2010 at 6:24 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 6:22 am
Raiders haven’t been blown out since week 1, take Den and the 9…
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You mean give the 9 points?
If JCamp is the starter or even Boller, Denver will cover, I agree.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:25 am
Isn’t Campbell’s meniscus torn? How is he a likely starter?
October 21st, 2010 at 6:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 6:22 am
I will put the JFB guarantee that Rolando McClain will make at least 2 Pro Bowls in his career.
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We’re trading him to Baltimore? LOL
October 21st, 2010 at 6:26 am
I still cant fathom how you support Mr 10.7 but say Romac sucks.
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BCZ,
did you read any of my posts this morning about JCamp or ROMAC?
obviously not. sounds like you’re still going off of what I said a few weeks ago
October 21st, 2010 at 6:27 am
I’d say the optimist in me suggests this is an elaborate smokescreen to force Denver to prepare for Campbell and Boller and maybe even spend a bit of time gameplanning for Gradkowski. Then suddenly Campbell will be a Sunday morning scratch because of too much knee pain and Boller will go.
But I can’t say that because the optimist in me doesn’t exist anymore with regards to this team. Campbell is starting if he has to be out there on a crutch.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:28 am
I see that no one has commented on the ROMAC scouting report. It seems that from an outside critic, that John Marshall’s read and react defense isn’t aggressive enough for ROMAC’s limited athletisism. He seems to think ROMAC will thrive under a new DC, or new attack first and think later philosophy.
RoMac is no Patrick Willis. But he should be better than he is.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:30 am
I copied and pasted this scouting report on ROMAC from a fantasy website I sometimes read. What do you think? You agree?
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Jimbo, nice read
I agree
October 21st, 2010 at 6:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 6:26 am
did you read any of my posts this morning about JCamp or ROMAC?
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“I haven’t given up on him yet” was your exact quote this morning. Not a glaring endorsement for sure but, it IS still surprising to me since you gave up on McClain before he ever donned a Raiders uniform.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:31 am
Jimbo,
RoMac is simply reacting an eyelash too slow. I have confidence that once he develops as a pro (he is not even 22 years old) he will tighten that up and be a player.
As far as tackling and being physical, he already seems to be the most sure-tackling hitter since Gregg Biekert.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:37 am
I will be glad when Campbell and DHB are gone.
Davis’ method of judging talent doesn’t work.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:37 am
As far as tackling and being physical,
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Oh no…. we wont be having ANY of that in the NFL.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:37 am
Jimbo,
RoMac is simply reacting an eyelash too slow. I have confidence that once he develops as a pro (he is not even 22 years old) he will tighten that up and be a player.
As far as tackling and being physical, he already seems to be the most sure-tackling hitter since Gregg Biekert.
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JFB,
I think he needs to take some chances, even if it skirts the edge of gap discipline. He needs to make up for that eyelash of slowness. He may get burned, but I bet he’ll make some blowup plays too, and that will make the other teams OC think about thier playcalling some.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:38 am
you gave up on McClain before he ever donned a Raiders uniform.
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False
is he an impact player? no
does he alone improve the run defense? no
is he playing better (as a rookie) than kirk? no
does he embrace the media and fans? no
was he a wasted pick? yes
do i hope he turns it around and becomes the best mlb in the league? yes
for the record, at the time he was drafted … I thought DMAC was a wasted pick too and you all saw how I defended him this offseason when nobody else (except Dakota) did.
we had Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes, Bush & Echemandu at the time when our pass protection was as BSJ puts it a “menace to victory”
thats the way I see our D-Line and McClain does NOTHING to make up for thier incompetence
October 21st, 2010 at 6:39 am
If you look at the routes DHB is running, and the catches he makes, he is really being used as a possession WR.
Has he even had one catch 15 yards down the field yet?
He is catching a bunch of 8 yard passes.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:40 am
What do you all think of Veldheer as our LT? Can he get accilimated to be servicable his rookie year? Is Mario H. done?
October 21st, 2010 at 6:41 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 6:39 am
If you look at the routes DHB is running, and the catches he makes, he is really being used as a possession WR.
Has he even had one catch 15 yards down the field yet?
He is catching a bunch of 8 yard passes.
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That is because he hasn’t proven he can catch the ball with his back to the QB. He is a project WR. I have strong doubts he will ever develop. I am throwing the towel on DHB.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:43 am
Veldheer is already comparable to Mario H. So I’d say ya Mario is done.
Well, by done I mean he’ll get another 3 year deal when his current one is up and ride the pine as a backup.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:44 am
Is Mario H. done?
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Super Mario (LOL) will be a restricted free agent this offseason. He’s making 550k this year as a 2 year starter with Drew Rosenhaus as his agent
the Raiders seem to be moving forward with Veldheer at LT, so I certainly think he’s done in Oakland.
Some other team will take a chance on him. Paul McQuistan, James Marten, Kevin Boothe, Cornell Green, Jake Grove & Barry Sims all found work after leaving Oakhole (Kwame Harris was the exception)
October 21st, 2010 at 6:45 am
I wish we had a backup plan for Big John H.
Unfortunately they don’t grow 330 pound run stuffing DT’s on trees anymore.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:47 am
I got a bad feeling about this game in Denver. I already picked up Denver’s defense for my fantasy league.
The good news is the last time I did that, I picked up San Diego and we beat them. So maybe that’s a good omen.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:48 am
One day the Men in Black will rule again…
I sure hope that I am alive…
October 21st, 2010 at 6:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 6:48 am
One day the Men in Black will rule again…
I sure hope that I am alive…
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Relax, all you have to do is outlive an 81 year old man.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:49 am
#337 — Hopefully Veldheer can overcome the short arm issue with his strength. He impressed me by being physical in preseason with Julius Peppers. Peppers beat him early, then Jared put him out of the game. He’s got to be better than Mario at this point. Mario can’t even run block now. Time for B. Campbell to get some snaps at Tackle. There are enough guards already.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:50 am
I wish we had a backup plan for Big John H.
Unfortunately they don’t grow 330 pound run stuffing DT’s on trees anymore.
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my plan to stop the run would be to get a fresh rotation of DT’s in there with McClain to charge the LOS every 1st & 2nd down regardless of offensive formation or distance of down. just hit the guy with the ball in his hands (QB or RB)
bring Kellen Heard up from the practice squad and re-sign William Joseph.
Desmond Bryant & Bruce Davis aren’t needed …
October 21st, 2010 at 6:50 am
ME 2 HWNRDR,NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER..
October 21st, 2010 at 6:51 am
AL WILL OUT LIVE US ALL…
October 21st, 2010 at 6:53 am
baseball = ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
October 21st, 2010 at 6:53 am
Nope…not getting any yonger or patient…
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 6:50 am
ME 2 HWNRDR,NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER..
AL WILL OUT LIVE US ALL
October 21st, 2010 at 6:56 am
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my plan to stop the run would be to get a fresh rotation of DT’s in there with McClain to charge the LOS every 1st & 2nd down regardless of offensive formation or distance of down. just hit the guy with the ball in his hands (QB or RB)
bring Kellen Heard up from the practice squad and re-sign William Joseph.
Desmond Bryant & Bruce Davis aren’t needed …
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I remember we tried that with Jay Alford, and some other lesser DT’s. Our defense as a whole is slow to react, and some of that is on ROMAC. But some of that is Marshall. We need to commit sooner to the run blitz, even if it exposes us on the underneath patterns. I know it’s picking poisons, but getting run on phyiscally wears down the defense to point of crying uncle.
We got to stop the run and that must be priority #1.
October 21st, 2010 at 6:57 am
I was one of those weird East Bay guys that loved Will Clark as a kid, and always have been a SF Giants fan since than.
Raiders, Cal Bears, Warriors…..and Giants.
Hummmm Baby!!!!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:00 am
Good for you Giants fans, I hated seeing my Rays get beat. But I admit it would be nice to see some new blood in a Texas-SF WS.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:00 am
I’d be happier with JaJason if he throws 5 INTs into the secondary this week and we hit a few deep passes than if he has another game where he doesn’t even attempt 5 passes to his WRs (in which case he probably turns it over at least 2x anyway).
October 21st, 2010 at 7:02 am
We got to stop the run and that must be priority #1.
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Agreed!
Jimbo, the whole reason Jay Alford was cut by the Giants was because they told him that he was a rush DT, not a run DT and thats not what they were looking for. the Raiders found out the same thing and sent him packing, even with John Henderson on crutches
I have to think that Heard or Joseph are better against the run than that guy. Jhill even brought up Willie Jo as a solid player in film study from last year’s games (when we talked about it over the offseason). I’ll admit I have not personally saw him do much in games
October 21st, 2010 at 7:03 am
Has Campbell semi-officially been named starter? Is Grads pretty much no chance for Sunday?
If McFadden is out, can Bennett help Bush in the backfield as a one-two punch?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:03 am
Good morning Nation.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:04 am
No one will out live Al.He has acid for blood.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:07 am
JFB…I don’t mind if you are a true fan, but I hate bandwagoners…were was everyone when the Giants sucked? No where! I hope they lose against the Rangers!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:08 am
I say start Shane at QB.Let him complete a few shove passes and make his stats look good for Canton.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:08 am
Chris,
the Raiders gameplan with JCamp at QB is uber conservative. vanilla & predictable. after that 2nd FG I thought Hue Jax did a lowsy job against SF
that last INT you cant hang on JCamp, that was on Ford!
Campbell didn’t play well, but he didn’t have much help from his WR’s or play caller either. That long pass from the endzone to Murphy was slightly off target but he was under heavy pressure and Murphy didn’t even TRY to make a play on the ball. He seemed content just to beat his man in a footrace down the field. A real WR would have seen the ball coming and went after it. the 49ers LB’s were diving for balls, but the Raiders WR’s were just giving up if the pass didn’t hit them in the hands or chest (besides Zmiller)
October 21st, 2010 at 7:11 am
I guess I can say that I was an East Bay fan without even knowing where the East Bay was…the only weird one is that because of WTBS in Atlanta, my NL team has always been the Braves! bobby Cox will be missed!
Raiders-A’s (Braves)- Lakers (I know, u all will hate me for that, but do cheer for the Warriors because they are my home team)…
October 21st, 2010 at 7:11 am
The Raiders should pick up Del Curry to play QB!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:11 am
I hope that Hue Jackson is carrying a stopwatch in practice and cussing out Campbell up one side down the other if he can’t make his read and throw quickly.
He should throw a football at Campbells nuts like the video when Favre went down in practice.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:12 am
Ooooooooops, make that Ronald…
October 21st, 2010 at 7:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:08 am
Chris,
the Raiders gameplan with JCamp at QB is uber conservative. vanilla & predictable. after that 2nd FG I thought Hue Jax did a lowsy job against SF
that last INT you cant hang on JCamp, that was on Ford!
Campbell didn’t play well, but he didn’t have much help from his WR’s or play caller either. That long pass from the endzone to Murphy was slightly off target but he was under heavy pressure and Murphy didn’t even TRY to make a play on the ball. He seemed content just to beat his man in a footrace down the field. A real WR would have seen the ball coming and went after it. the 49ers LB’s were diving for balls, but the Raiders WR’s were just giving up if the pass didn’t hit them in the hands or chest (besides Zmiller)
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I don’t think Murph gave up. If you look at Campbell’s missed passes, he put a lot of muster on them, but they were too flat. He needed to put some air under the ball. Those were borderline uncatchable. They looked close, but the trajectory was darned near impossible to snag out of the air.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:14 am
Even though we could have got him for peanuts in the offseason, Al Davis should have traded our 2nd rounder to Cincy for Terrell Owens and handed him a 3 years $30 million contract
our O-Line isn’t very good, but it’s probably good enough if we had any sort of passing game. inaccurate mistake prone QB’s with young wides that cant catch or run routes = recipe for disaster
I want to see what JCamp looks like in the 1st half against Dungver. if its the guy who played against St Louis & San Fran, he’s officially done for the season. if it’s the guy we saw in preseason and against SD then lets chalk the other losses up to a “slow start” and get going here
October 21st, 2010 at 7:14 am
neilb Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:08 am
I say start Shane at QB.Let him complete a few shove passes and make his stats look good for Canton.
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I’m kind of hoping for Shane to play as well. If nothing else it’d be fun to watch our punter out there.
Have a feeling this could be one of those Raider games that’ll be best watched in fast-forward, set to the Benny Hill theme music.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:15 am
I wash my hands of Campbell. Horrible QB. Stick a fork in him already.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:15 am
Hwndr, I loved Dale Murphy as a kid, The only Brave I ever liked!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:16 am
trajectory?
Jimbo, have you been watching NFL Live with Trent Dilfer & Tim Hasselbeck?
LOL, just kidding man
October 21st, 2010 at 7:17 am
All I know is our passing game had the WRs involved and was going for close to 300 ypg when the Bruce was in there. I haven’t checked exactly, but with Campbell it’s probably more like 125.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:18 am
It pisses me off when Campbell does have decent protection, he is shuffling his feet around trying to avoid a phantom rush, and lowers his eyes to 5 yards past the LOS.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:18 am
neilb Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:08 am
I say start Shane at QB.Let him complete a few shove passes and make his stats look good for Canton.
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I’m kind of hoping for Shane to play as well. If nothing else it’d be fun to watch our punter out there.
Have a feeling this could be one of those Raider games that’ll be best watched in fast-forward, set to the Benny Hill theme music.
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Put him in when we’re in the red zone and run the wildcat……..can’t do any worse!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:19 am
RRS, is there any Raider fan that didn’t want TO in the offseason?
Can anyone ever remember a team with such an unproven WR core?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:19 am
Murphy is a decent WR, imagine if he had a QB like McNabb or Roehlisberger throwing to him.
imagine that?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:21 am
Denver has the worst running game in the NFL. If we make them look good on the ground, we can start wearing upside grocery bags with cutout frowns.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:22 am
All I know is our passing game had the WRs involved and was going for close to 300 ypg when the Bruce was in there. I haven’t checked exactly, but with Campbell it’s probably more like 125.
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thats fair. I’m not going to argue Grads vs JCamp here
Bruce has already been named the starter (when healthy)
my point is, if Hue Jax doesn’t trust JCamp to throw the football … play Boller!
I don’t want to see that conservative vanilla predictable offense again, no matter who we have at QB, do you?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:23 am
I’ll give the QB’s a little credit.With this Oline any QB would have happy feet.Which team in the nfl is thinking of starting it’s 3rd QB?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:24 am
Check that……..make that “with this Oline and these WR’s”….
October 21st, 2010 at 7:25 am
my point is, if Hue Jax doesn’t trust JCamp to throw the football … play Boller!
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yes! Agree completely!
And stop with the run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, 3rd and 8 play action (aint fooling anyone).
Where have all the swings and screens gone?
HueJack stunk up the place the last game.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:25 am
I’ve never burnt a piece of clothing before but I’m strongly considering throwing my Russell jersey into a fire… or should I wait until the offseason in hopes that we sign a FA QB and he wears #2.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:26 am
Indian Wanting Coffee:
An Indian walks into a cafe with a shotgun in one hand and the other hand pulling a male buffalo with the other. He says to the waiter: “Want coffee.”
The waiter says, “Sure, Chief. Coming right up.”
He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee…..
The Indian drinks the coffee down in one gulp, turns and blasts the buffalo with the shotgun,
Causing parts of the animal to splatter everywhere and then just walks out.
The next morning the Indian returns.
He has his shotgun in one hand, pulling
another male buffalo with the other.
He walks up to the counter and says to
the waiter: “Want coffee.”
The waiter says, “Whoa, Tonto!We’re still cleaning up your mess from yesterday. What was all that about, anyway?”
The Indian smiles and proudly says,
“Training for position in United States Congress.
Come in, drink coffee, shoot the bull, leave mess for others to clean up,
Disappear for rest of day.”
October 21st, 2010 at 7:26 am
Morning Nation!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:28 am
Does no charity shop want it Carl?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:28 am
Browns starting their 3rd QB.
If Hue got some faith in Boller he should let Cable know… unless he’s scared of being punched and getting a broken jaw.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:28 am
“Training for position in United States Congress.
What do you mean? Those guys work 24/7.
24 hours a week, seven months a year.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:30 am
Neilb, that would be cruel!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:30 am
AirborneRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:28 am
Browns starting their 3rd QB.
If Hue got some faith in Boller he should let Cable know… unless he’s scared of being punched and getting a broken jaw.
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No way….Hue would jack Marshmallow boy Cable up.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:30 am
Airborne…..
You got me! Is because of injury?
October 21st, 2010 at 7:31 am
As a Raider fan, I sit and watch every game, no matter what happens. But I wouldn’t recommend watching the Raiders to a nonfan over say golf or bowling.
It’s just that boring to watch anymore.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:32 am
Neil, sure is, McCoy looks much better than the Turnover Machine and Wallace. I’m guessing he will be the starter until he gets hurt, too.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:35 am
Cleveland has a worse Oline than the Raiders? Would you believe it!! Some one more in the crap than we are.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:36 am
Jimbo, I watched every game since the Sunday ticket came out up until the 2006 season. After that opening loss to the chargers I didn’t watch another gam for a few weeks. And since then I stopped spending the dough on the package because they just aren’t worth it.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:37 am
That Giant’s “Don’t Stop Believin” song some hack recorded over the Journey classic is nauseating to hear on the radio. When I was in California last week, they played every hour. Dude sings waaaaay off key. Shower singers could do better. Steve Perry’s ears are bleeding.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:38 am
neilb Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:35 am
Cleveland has a worse Oline than the Raiders?
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No way, not with Joe Thomas and Alex Mack.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:39 am
Haven’t seen every game this season.Missed last week.
Watching Raider games is like sitting in the dentist’s chair………you just know there’s going to be pain at some point.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:39 am
Cleveland has a worse Oline than the Raiders? Would you believe it!! Some one more in the crap than we are.
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No, I have actually heard the opposite. Peyton Hillis is tearing it up and even against the Steelers had a good day. So the Raiders have to find someone else to pick on.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:40 am
What game, other than the Raider game of course ;^), are you guys looking forward to this weekend?
I think the Bears/Skins game should be good, plus I wanna see favre get smashed for his “last” game at Lambeau.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:40 am
Watching Raider games is like sitting in the dentist’s chair………you just know there’s going to be pain at some point.
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LOL, post of the day
October 21st, 2010 at 7:40 am
Watching Raider games is like sitting in the dentist’s chair………you just know there’s going to be pain at some point.
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LOL, exactly!
well put Neil …
October 21st, 2010 at 7:40 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:36 am
Jimbo, I watched every game since the Sunday ticket came out up until the 2006 season. After that opening loss to the chargers I didn’t watch another gam for a few weeks. And since then I stopped spending the dough on the package because they just aren’t worth it.
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I feel your pain.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:41 am
Jimbo Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:39 am
Cleveland has a worse Oline than the Raiders? Would you believe it!! Some one more in the crap than we are.
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No, I have actually heard the opposite. Peyton Hillis is tearing it up and even against the Steelers had a good day. So the Raiders have to find someone else to pick on.
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The Bears
October 21st, 2010 at 7:42 am
Carl,
Pittsburgh and Miami should be a good game. Also looking forward to the Patriots (hopefully) rolling the Chokers.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:42 am
JFB,
how about 3 straight wins for the Podunk Express in Dell’s fantasy football league, eh?
let’s make it 4, Maverick!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:43 am
I’m looking forward to Buff and Baltimore… just makes me feel good knowing there are more awful teams out there.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:43 am
Time for some dinner…
Have a great Thursday everyone.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:44 am
looking forward to the Patriots (hopefully) rolling the Chokers.
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me too!
Dolts lose and we beat Dungver = we’re in good shape for the AFC West crown
October 21st, 2010 at 7:44 am
I got a meeting. See ya tommorow, if I just don’t say to heck with it and call in.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:45 am
see ya Jimbo. knock’em dead in the meeting!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:45 am
SNBPA, ya that should be a tight one, I like Miami to win,
Airborne, Good call, I’ll tune in to that one for that reason only!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:44 am
looking forward to the Patriots (hopefully) rolling the Chokers.
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me too!
Dolts lose and we beat Dungver = we’re in good shape for the AFC West crown
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That would be nice. Orton has put up a billion yards passing though and unless Grads is in there and healthy it might take another 3 defensive/special teams scores to pull off a victory.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:50 am
Damn, I was just looking at the standings, that friggin 9er game, I’m still bitter! We should be 4-2 FFS!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:51 am
Jimbo Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:39 am
Cleveland has a worse Oline than the Raiders? Would you believe it!! Some one more in the crap than we are.
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No, I have actually heard the opposite. Peyton Hillis is tearing it up and even against the Steelers had a good day. So the Raiders have to find someone else to pick on.
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The Bills
October 21st, 2010 at 7:51 am
4-2!!!!! We would be tied for 4th in the AFC!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:53 am
Carl Weathers Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:50 am
Damn, I was just looking at the standings, that friggin 9er game, I’m still bitter! We should be 4-2 FFS!
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We COULD be 4-2. The way we have played, we SHOULD be exactly where we are.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:54 am
it might take another 3 defensive/special teams scores to pull off a victory
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whatever it takes to win man!
the Rams & Chargers are better than the Cards & 49ers.
hopefully last week was just “playing down to the competition” or the “back2back wins curse” or the “overconfident” thing
none of which will be valid excuses this week.
get it done Raiders !!!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:55 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 5:44 am
LMN,
Tony Ugoh is out of the league, and was replaced by a rookie, collegiate TE who was taken in the 6th round.
Colts didn’t really skip a beat.
The fact remains, undrafted C, another undfrafted G for years, 6th round pick at LT, and a #1 overall QB, a #1 pick at WR, a #1 pick at TE, and two #1 picks at RB.
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well your point was they didnt use high draft picks on o-line, I know Ugoh is out, but fact is they did use two 2nd round pick in two years, maybe they arent starters or playing, but the DID pick them…
October 21st, 2010 at 7:55 am
bcz24 Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:53 am
We COULD be 4-2. The way we have played, we SHOULD be exactly where we are.
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Sad but true.
October 21st, 2010 at 7:56 am
BCZ,
you lucked out man. you play me in FF next week (WK
I have Flacco, Mason, Jacobs, Smith and the Giants D on a bye !!!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:57 am
week 8 … sorry about the sunglasses
October 21st, 2010 at 8:00 am
Just Fire Baby…
I get your point though…
but only an AAA+++++ QB can do what Peyton does…
so if you are lucky to just draft an AA+ QB, you might need some other kind of support on o-line…
another thing, you and cable should be best buds, he also looks after O-line help on the scrapheap or un-draftees..
October 21st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Can’t Condo fill in for injurerd TE Brandon Myers? Oh I forgot, he doesn’t play real football.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:56 am
BCZ,
you lucked out man. you play me in FF next week (WK
I have Flacco, Mason, Jacobs, Smith and the Giants D on a bye !!!
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Nonsense poopypants! I dont need luck to derail the podunk express! LOL
I truthfully dont pay an awful lot of attention to that league. I focus on my money league for the most part. I am 6-0 in that league. The next closest guy is 4-2, and I play him this week. He has Schaub, Addai, Collie, and A Johnson all on bye’s this week! I should win going away I think.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:25 am
From Tafur:
JaMarcus interview. I am a JaLoser hater, but he is changing. Seems more focused and mature. One day, he may make it back but never with the Raiders. Said there were only 31 teams in the NFL.
http://sports.sho.com/browse/video-portal-infl.html?id=643135749001
October 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am
Knowing the Jameatball is on Inside the NFL this week makes me want to go home and delete it off my DVR.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:31 am
Magic Johnson Interested in Bringing NFL Team to Los Angeles10
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Could Magic Johnson bring the NFL to Los Angeles? If he has his druthers, it could be so.
The NBA Hall of Famer told the Los Angeles Times that he would be interested in bringing an NFL team back to the city, saying he “really, really wants the NFL to come back to L.A.,” but has not yet talked to the league.
Johnson recently sold his minority ownership stake in the Lakers, and followed that up by moving 105 Starbucks franchises — a pair of moves that freed up considerable finances.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Johnson owned a 4.5 percent stake in the Lakers, and sold his shares for an estimated $27 million. He sold the franchises back to Starbucks for a reported $75 million.
The timing of the sales prompted much speculation about Johnson’s future moves, and it appears FanHouse’s Tom Ziller was on to something when he wondered if Magic could be the man to bring football back to LA.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:32 am
JaMarcus Russell: “I don’t know where it went wrong”
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 21, 2010 10:33 AM ET
Former Raiders No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell says he still wants to play in the NFL, and he says he’s not the same man now that he was when he played three disappointing seasons in Oakland.
“Now looking back on it, I could have went about certain things different,” Russell said in an interview with Josina Anderson on Inside the NFL.
But when Anderson asked him to be specific about what he would do differently, Russell couldn’t give much detail.
“I’m not sure,” Russell said. “I don’t know where it went wrong. But for the things that did go wrong, I take full blame for whatever was my fault and the things that did happen. Being drafted number one, there’s so much that they want you to do at the snap of a finger. It didn’t happen that way, which brings us to today.”
Unfortunately for Russell, if he can’t be specific about what he did wrong and what he will do differently if he gets another chance, it’s going to be hard for him to convince NFL teams that he deserves another chance.
Russell insists that he will get another chance, however, telling FOX 26 in Houston, “I know for a fact. I have faith in God and strong beliefs. I know for a fact it’s going to happen.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/21/jamarcus-russell-i-dont-know-where-it-went-wrong/
October 21st, 2010 at 8:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 7:56 am
BCZ,
you lucked out man. you play me in FF next week (WK
I have Flacco, Mason, Jacobs, Smith and the Giants D on a bye !!!
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Don’t feel bad…I got Manning, Clark, and Collie on a bye!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:37 am
morning nation,
reading back over posts the past few weeks, it is obvious to me we wouldn’t be having any of these discussions/arguments if our o-line guru had gurued us up a decent o-line. with an average nfl calibre o-line we would be winning games like sundays loss to the niners.. our offense could sustain drives and score in the red zone. our QB’s could get the ball downfield and our run game would be awesome.. the defense would face way less run offense and the d line could rush the passers..
instead we have these stupid injuries, we make every game a dog fight, we are poorly prepared for the team we are playing, and no offensive line!! we have a few line players but no iine…
sad to say it but we need a new coach, at least for the o-line….
October 21st, 2010 at 8:39 am
I dont need luck to derail the podunk express! LOL
I truthfully dont pay an awful lot of attention to that league
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BCZ,
last time I checked you had a pretty doggone good team & record in Dell’s league. be proud of it and be ready to get walloped by an undermanned Podunk squad in Week 8!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:41 am
Russell insists that he will get another chance, however, telling FOX 26 in Houston, “I know for a fact. I have faith in God and strong beliefs. I know for a fact it’s going to happen.”
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did JaWalrus spend some time with D-Smooth recently?
October 21st, 2010 at 8:44 am
RMR with his Gannon man crush.
Gannon sucks, get over it.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:45 am
Man I’ll be pissed if McFadden doesn’t play when I am at the game this weekend!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:46 am
BCZ,
last time I checked you had a pretty doggone good team & record in Dell’s league. be proud of it and be ready to get walloped by an undermanned Podunk squad in Week 8!
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This is going to sound incredibly douchey, but 4-2 is what happens when I dont pay an awful lot of attention to a FF team.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:47 am
Knowing the Jameatball is on Inside the NFL this week makes me want to go home and delete it off my DVR.
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yeah, why even bother interviewing guys that are out of the league on a show called ‘Inside the NFL’ ?
maybe they should call it ‘Outside the NFL’ ???
all of our QB’s are light years ahead of JaFranchise – even Frye with a busted wrist
They should be doing a segment on former Raider WR’s like Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie, Drew Carter, Tim Dwight, Doug Gabriel, Alvis Whitted, etc
shoot. Samie Parker might be our #1 WR right now!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:49 am
4-2 is what happens when I dont pay an awful lot of attention to a FF team.
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you might be 4-4 by the time i’m through with you!
good thing you don’t care
October 21st, 2010 at 8:50 am
I beat Dakota by 40+
bwahahahahahahahaha!
I forgot to check: did I get blowout of the week?
October 21st, 2010 at 8:50 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Why do you think he should be traded?
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Who else has value?
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# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 8:08 am
Can’t Condo fill in for injurerd TE Brandon Myers? Oh I forgot, he doesn’t play real football.
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So, which is it going to be?
October 21st, 2010 at 8:52 am
439.RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 8:50 am
I beat Dakota by 40+
bwahahahahahahahaha!
I forgot to check: did I get blowout of the week?
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I let you win….felt sorry for you.
Hey, did you see that article on the recall of those baby positioners?
October 21st, 2010 at 8:53 am
Cable said the Raiders are considering a number of options, including using an offensive lineman during power formations, using Marcel Reece there during no fullback sets and possibly elevating practice squad tight end Kevin Brock.
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forget Brock!
Veldheer is the starter at LT now so the extra OL is either Henderson or Barnes …
Marcel Reece isn’t a blocking TE. He’s not a FB either!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:55 am
did you see that article on the recall of those baby positioners?
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yeah man, thanks
5 more weeks!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:55 am
I got blowout of the year on JFB… 96 points! LOL
October 21st, 2010 at 8:56 am
Gannon on Sirius just now,
~I got the feeling Campbell just didn’t seem comfortable with Jackson’s offense…
October 21st, 2010 at 8:56 am
I got blowout of the year on JFB… 96 points!
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Ouch!
that’ll make you write home to momma
October 21st, 2010 at 8:57 am
^^^^^ Forgot to add that this was while talkingto him last weekend, not while watching the game lol!
October 21st, 2010 at 8:58 am
Magic Johnson interested in bringing an NFL team to LA…Al, please sell the team to Magic and let him move it back to LA.
Magic will then hire Jerry West as the GM and even with zero experience he will be a better NFL GM than you Al.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:59 am
NBA News:
Miami @ Boston, Tuesday 10/26 at 7:30pm EST
this will be a great game!
Print This …
October 21st, 2010 at 9:00 am
Good morning dear friends,…heading to Mont Bleu here in a bit, get my parlay card in,…will post it later tonight, or tomorrow, my 4 team parlay,…might go with 5,..anyway, one things for sure, Im taking Denver, laying the 8.5….for all you people that get all worked up over losses, dont tune in sunday,…it will be over by mid second quarter,…I will say this, the two most important positions on an NFL team,..QB and LT,…in our case, we dont have a QB, the punter is taking snaps, and regarding the LT,..rotating guys and one of them is a rookie from a division 2 school,…no need to comment on that, that says it all,…you guys no doubt will blame the usual,..and honestly, its probably true, this does land at the feet of Old Al,…personally, Im hoping for 2-14, and Im hoping the losses are blowouts,…you want change?…better hope for the same, Im not saying that will demand change, but it might,…off to Mont Bleu, I miss the old Ceazars, liked it much better. Cya.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:01 am
This team is so freakin lame!!!!
Fire Cable’s stupid @$$ based on just this one line
Punter Shane Lechler assumed that role Wednesday.
“There’s a set of plays he would run,’’ Cable said in reference to having to use Lechler in a game. “A `what if’ thing.’’
He is the freakin punter!!!!! Stop using guys out of position. Heck just in case I bring Mike Bush in at QB before Lechler. WHat is wrong with this dumb @$$ dysfunctional, freakin team????? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh!!!!!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:01 am
As much as I hate the Celtics I will be rooting for them to beat Team LeBron. I’d rather have the Lakers face a real NBA franchise in the finals instead of LeBrons little collusion team.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:02 am
Your what if is the High school punter at QB?
He is no d@mn throw back!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:03 am
He is the freakin punter!!!!! Stop using guys out of position. Heck just in case I bring Mike Bush in at QB before Lechler.
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CJ, Shane Lechler is our Tim Tebow. LOL!
Dungver is seriously going to freak out if he actually jogs out there on a down other than 4th …
October 21st, 2010 at 9:03 am
Al Davis just made a statement:
“Shane Lechler reminds me of George Blanda.”
October 21st, 2010 at 9:05 am
Tom Cable just made a statement:
“Ricky Brown reminds me of the movie ‘Rudy’.”
October 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am
Dakota Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:03 am
Al Davis just made a statement:
“Shane Lechler reminds me of George Blanda.”
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+1 Internets to you.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am
Heard RT Ryan Harris might have fallen out of favor in Denver. He’s a great fit for the ZBS, so assuming it’s sticking around for at least another season, the Raiders should make a trade. Good young player.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:09 am
I’d rather have the Lakers face a real NBA franchise in the finals instead of LeBrons little collusion team.
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Bosh/James/Wade > Gasol/Bryant/Fisher.
the difference will be the “other guys”
Bynum, Artest & Odom are probably better than the Top 3 role players for the Miami He@t
October 21st, 2010 at 9:10 am
Tom Cable just made a statement:
“We are close. We just need to work harder. We are right there. We are about to step through that door. We just have to go out there and execute. We have to make plays on both sides of the ball. Really, we are knocking on the door. Al, please don’t fire me. I am a Raider for life!”
October 21st, 2010 at 9:11 am
457.RedneckRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:07 am
Dakota Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:03 am
Al Davis just made a statement:
“Shane Lechler reminds me of George Blanda.”
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+1 Internets to you.
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Say what?
October 21st, 2010 at 9:12 am
Coach Tom Cable admitted Wednesday that the Raiders “have no idea” who their starting quarterback will be in Week 7.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:13 am
Cable has no idea how to coach!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:15 am
Same old song, different tune!
I don’t know about the rest of you guys…but I’m getting tired of the same old $h!t!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:18 am
I don’t know about the rest of you guys…but I’m getting tired of the same old $h!t!
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I’m not!
I love it. the Raiders are dysfunctional just like my family
I feel right at home
Tom Cable might as well be my brother
October 21st, 2010 at 9:19 am
I don’t think Cable truly cares how long he’s around for. He gets fired here and he’ll end up as a halfway decent offensive line coach making solid money for a much better team.
When an endless array of players and coaches come through with the same end result, chances are the problem isn’t the players or coaches.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:19 am
lol…I heard that!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:23 am
Still haven’t heard anything in regards to MM34… WTF. Why wasn’t he on the field late? They were playing Hiram Eugene…. I think we need to rotate our safeties a little more.. Branch has regressed, and can not cover. He also seems unable to stick to his responsibilities in a zone… Huff, has great tackling numbers, but dude can’t tackle.. he hugs and falls. I’d love to see Huff play nickle CB, and let 33 slide to FS, while MM plays SS… I do like the 3 safety looks too, as I have said numerous times….
Anyone see the pop MM put on Gore? Was an incomplete, but MM drilled Gore right in the small of the back…. We need more physicality on defense… PLAY MM34
October 21st, 2010 at 9:24 am
Looks like that little story about the coaches wanting to cut him got MM34 all fired up.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:18 am
I don’t know about the rest of you guys…but I’m getting tired of the same old $h!t!
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I’m not!
I love it. the Raiders are dysfunctional just like my family
I feel right at home
Tom Cable might as well be my brother
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Too funny man.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:28 am
Al Davis referring to Tom Cable: “He’s a Great Coach, get over it!”
October 21st, 2010 at 9:28 am
Did you guys see that story of that 20yr old chic in Mexico becoming Cheif of Police in one of the border towns? Chic is pretty hot!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:29 am
You are right man. I already have come to the reality that it is a cursed franchise. No doubt, No doubt in my mind. This pirate ship is full of bad spirits man.
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YoungAmerican Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:19 am
I don’t think Cable truly cares how long he’s around for. He gets fired here and he’ll end up as a halfway decent offensive line coach making solid money for a much better team.
When an endless array of players and coaches come through with the same end result, chances are the problem isn’t the players or coaches.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:29 am
Has Cable shredded the pack of hotdogs off the back of his neck yet?
October 21st, 2010 at 9:30 am
Oh boy, you got to get us a photo.
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memo Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:28 am
Did you guys see that story of that 20yr old chic in Mexico becoming Cheif of Police in one of the border towns? Chic is pretty hot!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:41 am
That chick is going to get her head chopped off now that she is in the news. The worst news I saw today was that 1 Texas National Guard died during a shootout on the borders today. The schcytt about to hit the fan on that El Paso border. Gonna steer clear of that town when I drive back next year.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am
Here’s her picture:http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//101020/ids_photos_wl/r722889207.jpg/
October 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am
http://pressrevolver.com/warning-graphic-drug-cartel-beheads-man-alive
aig-raiders Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:41 am
That chick is going to get her head chopped off now that she is in the news.
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Enter at your own risk!!!!!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am
“No, I think we’re pretty set at those two spots. We’re pretty set there.’’
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WTF??????????
The safeties are playing horrible!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:48 am
I don’t think Cable truly cares how long he’s around for.
He gets fired here and he’ll end up as a halfway decent offensive line coach making solid money for a much better team.
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YA,
Disagree with that first part. Raiders are his dream job. being with this organization means something to him and he’ll never get another Head Coach job after this – even in college. the pay scale from HC to OL Coach is drastically different too. big difference between 300-450k and $2 million per season
I do think he’ll eventually get fired though and when he does, he won’t have trouble finding an O-Line coaching gig in the NFL. may even get on with a winner
October 21st, 2010 at 9:49 am
Linebacker Travis Goethel was on the practice field for the first time since the third preseason game.
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Good news. Would like to see what he has to offer on the weak side.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:50 am
More Pics:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/College-student-becomes-Mexican-town-police-chief/ss/events/wl/102110marisolvalles#photoViewer=/101020/481/urn_publicid_ap_org015aae0185214e489ededfce7b02419c
October 21st, 2010 at 9:50 am
R8Ray,
Was tempted brother but couldnt pull the trigger. I really dont want the image of a chopped off head while trying to focus on work today.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:51 am
When Quentin Groves recovers sufficiently from a hamstring pull, Cable said he would return to weak side linebacker and Trevor Scott would go back to the three-man rotation at end along with Matt Shaughnessy and Lamarr Houston.
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WTF??????
Get ready to get gashed, wherever Scott is on run plays.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:52 am
483.aig-raiders Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:50 am
R8Ray,
Was tempted brother but couldnt pull the trigger. I really dont want the image of a chopped off head while trying to focus on work today.
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I made the mistake of watching that video of a US worker in Ir@q get his head chopped off…unreal.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:54 am
Like I said before.
If Campbell starts there is NO chance to win the game.
If Grads or Boller starts at least there is a slim chance.
This team also needs DMC to play this week.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:54 am
Marisol Valles Garcia > President JaMarcus
October 21st, 2010 at 9:55 am
Campbell’s final pass instead of having it explode off Ford’s body as if it were a cement wall
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Jerry angling for the Pulitzer Prize for sports blog sites
October 21st, 2010 at 9:55 am
This team also needs DMC to play this week.
Get ready to get gashed, wherever Scott is on run plays.
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Agreed!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:56 am
McFadden better play this weekend. The dude that got him drafted will be in the house. He owes me big time.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:58 am
RIP Penthouse Mag founder Bob Guccione
October 21st, 2010 at 9:58 am
Of course Campbell puts the ZIP on his short passes and too much air under his deeper throws, all witht he same slow wind up, telegraphed throws all day on Sunday…
October 21st, 2010 at 9:59 am
I did the same mistake a couple of weeks ago. I was getting ready to go to bed and my brother-in-law tells me you gotta watch this…man do I regret it!
This video makes Al-Qaeda look like a wannabe terrorist group!
October 21st, 2010 at 9:59 am
Champ might have a monster game if Campbell throws his way.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:02 am
31-9 Donks
October 21st, 2010 at 10:03 am
The Los Angeles Magic doesn’t SOUND like a football team, but I would instantly be a diehard fan.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:03 am
Champ Bailey = trash
Louis Murphy will leave him in the dust.
just need a few things to happen first …
1. Murphy has to run a proper route
2. JCamp has to see him
3. O-Line has to hold up in pass pro
4. JCamp has to throw an accurate (at least catchable ball)
5. Murph has to CATCH it!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:03 am
R8,
Seriously, there aint much we can do about it if that schytt spilled over to the US side. It’s gonna get ugly real soon.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:04 am
Dakota Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:56 am
McFadden better play this weekend. The dude that got him drafted will be in the house. He owes me big time.
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Careful, you could cause him to regress and start coughing the rock up again…
October 21st, 2010 at 10:04 am
yeah, I get the feeling of a blood bath this weekend too. We were lucky Alex Smith was the 2nd worst QB (next to JaPuke) this past weekend.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:04 am
Champ Bailey = trash
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He won’t be trash if Campbell lobs the ball his way Sunday.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
Next war is against the Mexican Cartel…mark my words!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
1. Murphy has to run a proper route
2. JCamp has to see him
3. O-Line has to hold up in pass pro
4. JCamp has to throw an accurate (at least catchable ball)
5. Murph has to CATCH it!
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0 for 5
What next?
October 21st, 2010 at 10:06 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
1. Murphy has to run a proper route
2. JCamp has to see him
3. O-Line has to hold up in pass pro
4. JCamp has to throw an accurate (at least catchable ball)
5. Murph has to CATCH it!
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0 for 5
What next?
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Slumping!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:07 am
I wonder what the Cartel would think of Cable’s soft camp & practices?
do they need jobs in America?
Al Davis needs to get a few of these guys on the phone pronto!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:08 am
0 for 5
What next?
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LOL @ Exla
October 21st, 2010 at 10:09 am
Old favorite:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHa71AFBGoE
October 21st, 2010 at 10:09 am
Eddie Royal (groin) is being held out of practice again on Thursday.
It’s not looking good for Royal’s chances of playing this week against the Raiders. Jabar Gaffney will get a slight bump in value, and rookie Demaryius Thomas’ snaps will increase at the No. 3 receiver.
Source: Lindsay Jones on Twitter
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Thank GOD, Hall isn’t around anymore……..
Oh schit, but we still have CJ, Huff, Routt, and Branch on the roster.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:11 am
He won’t be trash if Campbell lobs the ball his way Sunday.
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Chump got lit up by Kerry Collins throwing to Jerry Porter & Ronald Curry!
…but sadly thats probably the best passing trio we’ve had in the last 5+ years
October 21st, 2010 at 10:11 am
Raider fan stabs Charger fan:
http://www.wikio.com/video/raiders-fan-stabs-chargers-fan-249693
October 21st, 2010 at 10:12 am
Al Davis just made a statement:
“I just voted for Kennedy! Fuk Nixon! Where’s my lunch?”
October 21st, 2010 at 10:14 am
we still have CJ, Huff, Routt, and Branch on the roster
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Orton can throw for 400 yards with Lloyd, Gaffney & Thomas out there. They wont miss a beat without Eddie Royal!
if we shut down thier ground game we should be fine, but SF was only averaging 78 rush yards per game until they played us and I think we’re allowing 150+ (even to them!) right?
October 21st, 2010 at 10:24 am
Time to go play some Fallout New Vegas.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:28 am
Vincent Jackson will reportedly decide within the next 24 hours whether he will sign his restricted free agent tender in time to play the final six games this season.
The decision has essentially been made for him. The NFLPA has advised Jackson and Patriots OG Logan Mankins to report by October 30 if they want to accrue the six games of service time mandatory to reach unrestricted free agency in 2011. With V-Jax backed into a corner, it would be shocking if he decided against returning to the Chargers this year.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com
October 21st, 2010 at 10:28 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:03 am
The Los Angeles Magic doesn’t SOUND like a football team, but I would instantly be a diehard fan.
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How about the L.A. HIVe?
October 21st, 2010 at 10:33 am
r8eray Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 9:47 am
http://pressrevolver.com/warning-graphic-drug-cartel-beheads-man-alive
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How the fvck did you find that? I just dragged the slider into the middle and saw a glimpse of… u know, and I had to stop. I’m gonna send it to a sick puppy I know and he’ll watch it all and get back to me. Not sure if I wanna see all that!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:34 am
Or the Los Angeles Johnsons, lol
October 21st, 2010 at 10:39 am
Do it Carl!!!! Do it!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:43 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:34 am
Or the Los Angeles Johnsons, lol
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I think we have a winner! lmao!!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:46 am
9 and 7 would mean we go 7 and 3 the last ten games……. Oh boy
October 21st, 2010 at 10:47 am
Los Angeles Marauders
October 21st, 2010 at 10:48 am
9 and 7 would mean we go 7 and 3 the last ten games
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sounds good!
I only see 2 teams on the schedule that should beat us
October 21st, 2010 at 10:51 am
Which 2 teams?
October 21st, 2010 at 10:52 am
Steelers and Colts!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:53 am
yup. ray guessed it!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:53 am
I can see the Raiders winning their divisional games, but some some reason they can’t win outside of the division no matter how bad the other team sucks.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:55 am
Might as well post it. There ain’t nothing else to talk about anyways………..
NBA Star Baron Davis Accused of Dirtball Attack
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/19/baron-davis-kate-hudson-lawsuit-paparazzi-dirt-ball-attack/
October 21st, 2010 at 10:56 am
I wish we could just play Buffalo every week, they havn’t won a game yet. Oh wait the 9ers hadn’t won a game until they played us. Duo!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:57 am
New NFL team…. The Vegas Gamblers!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
8 or 9 wins will take the AFC West this year, but the Raiders better step it up because right now we’re looking like a 4-6 win team!
Top 10 draft pick to the Pats
October 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
r8eray Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
Next war is against the Mexican Cartel…mark my words!
^^^^^^^^
Should have happened a long time ago!
October 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:53 am
I can see the Raiders winning their divisional games, but some some reason they can’t win outside of the division no matter how bad the other team sucks.
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It would just be the perfect middle finger from God for this team to run the table in the division and lose every other game.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:59 am
Gruden open to coaching return?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Gruden-open-to-coaching-return-?urn=nfl-278467
October 21st, 2010 at 10:59 am
Watched that video, those guys a mentally ill.
October 21st, 2010 at 10:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:58 am
8 or 9 wins will take the AFC West this year, but the Raiders better step it up because right now we’re looking like a 4-6 win team!
Top 10 draft pick to the Pats
^^^^^^
It’s actually better that way….old looney man Al usually screws up the pick anyway!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:01 am
I F’in hate the Pats! Damn them for getting our high 1rst rounder!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:01 am
If Gradkowski can get healthy or Campbell pull his head out of his azz, the team still has a legit shot to go 8-8.
Both Denver games, both KC games, Seattle and Jacksonville are all very winnable.
Although, if I’m gonna be honest, I only have Seattle and Jacksonville circled as games we “should” win for the rest of the year. So 4-12 is still a very real possibility.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:02 am
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:59 am
Gruden open to coaching return?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Gruden-open-to-coaching-return-?urn=nfl-278467
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Don’t get your hopes up unless Al Davis checks out between now and January. Gruden will end up in Cleveland or Dallas.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:03 am
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:59 am
Gruden open to coaching return?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Gruden-open-to-coaching-return-?urn=nfl-278467
^^^^^^^^
Gruden will go to Dallas, the Niners, Carolina or get this….the VIKINGS if Childress gets fired!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:05 am
Gruden will go to Dallas, the Niners, Carolina or get this….the VIKINGS if Childress gets fired!
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how funny would if be if Jon Gruden decided to come back here and we ended up with Childress as OC and Singletary as DC ???
October 21st, 2010 at 11:05 am
There is no games we should win. The Raiders are a goofy team right now. they can play great they can play horrible. The Raiders are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. At least until the last 2 mins in the 4th quarter.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:07 am
Cower to Carolina, that is solid.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:07 am
It’s actually better that way….old looney man Al usually screws up the pick anyway!
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yeah. then we could count ROMAC as the 1st rounder for both years. $40 million for 2 first rounders that play like Kirk Morrison
McClain & Ricky Brown
sorry – just trying to stir the pot
October 21st, 2010 at 11:08 am
Gruden as HC, Childress as OC, and Singletary as DC? I don’t now, rockstar, how funny do you think it would be? Because Al Davis would have to be dead.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:08 am
The Raiders are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. At least until the last 2 mins in the 4th quarter.
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We no what we’re going to get from our safeties.
NO PRODUCTION.
No int’s
No tackles
No pass deflections
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October 21st, 2010 at 11:09 am
It’s amazing how so many of you are able to block out the reality of Al Davis’s presence and style of management when giving your wish lists for this team.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:09 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:05 am
There is no games we should win. The Raiders are a goofy team right now. they can play great they can play horrible. The Raiders are like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get. At least until the last 2 mins in the 4th quarter.
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Goofy team now?
They have been a goody for 8 years!
Goofy like their owner and head coach.
Teams are a reflection of the coaches personality. LOL
October 21st, 2010 at 11:09 am
how funny do you think it would be? Because Al Davis would have to be …
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not too funny then, but we’d win some games!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:09 am
Bruce scored a 19, not 16 on his wonderlic. Debo just makes $hit up!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:10 am
I see Gruden going to Dallas. As his haters say, he likes the spotlight. That I would agree with (although I think he’s a good coach, too). He has to be eying big D.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:10 am
What about Mouch as a OC
October 21st, 2010 at 11:11 am
Bruce scored a 19, not 16 on his wonderlic.
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Why is this relevant?
did Debo call Bruce a dummy or something?
what did he think JaMarcus was then?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:12 am
Rockstar, why do you offer up so many scenarios that either Al Davis would never allow, or where the other people involved would never work for Al Davis? Is it that you pretend Al Davis doesn’t exist when wishing things for the Raiders? Or are you hoping that he’s going to change his ways?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:12 am
Wade as DC?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:13 am
Why are Al’s biggest supporters in here offering up scenarios either Al would never go for, or that the other people involved would never agree to? Mooch as OC? It’s weird. Al’s biggest supporters seem to be in the most denial of his mere existence!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:13 am
FOOTBALL smarts is what matters!
Book smarts mean nothing when it comes to playing FOOTBALL!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:13 am
Russell seems pretty smart to me. The dude got 60 mil for nothing. Now all he has to do is kick back and enjoy the opiate high the rest of his life.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:14 am
Readjusted betting odds for our next permanent head coach.
No-name assistant with limited experience: 2-1
Jim Fassel: 3-1
Kevin Gilbride: 5-1
Denny Green: 7-1
Steve Mariucci: 10-1
Rob Ryan: 25-1
Wade Phillips: 50-1
Jack Del Rio: 100-1
John Fox: 250-1
Jim Harbaugh: 500-1
Marvin Lewis: 800-1
Eric Mangini: 1,000-1
Jon Gruden: 5,000,000-1
October 21st, 2010 at 11:15 am
At least Jason wants to be good. Its just too bad the guy is too scard to play NFL football.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:15 am
# r8eray Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
Next war is against the Mexican Cartel…mark my words!
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Dumbest political comment in the history of this blog.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:16 am
offseason prediction:
Al Davis will shock the world by turning the team over to his son, Mark Davis.
2 weeks later Bill Parcells will be named VP of football operations.
3 days later a former Raider legend (pick one) is named GM.
Parcells will bring in Jason Garrett as HC and a bunch of former Giants/Jets/Cowboys/Dolphins assistants to fill out the staff
we will proceed to have the best offseason ever – despite missing a 1st rounder.
big names will be purged from the roster, including Campbell, Gallery, Seymour & Asomugha
October 21st, 2010 at 11:16 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:14 am
Readjusted betting odds for our next permanent head coach.
No-name assistant with limited experience: 2-1
Jim Fassel: 3-1
Kevin Gilbride: 5-1
Denny Green: 7-1
Steve Mariucci: 10-1
Rob Ryan: 25-1
Wade Phillips: 50-1
Jack Del Rio: 100-1
John Fox: 250-1
Jim Harbaugh: 500-1
Marvin Lewis: 800-1
Eric Mangini: 1,000-1
Jon Gruden: 5,000,000-1
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Me: I’m hired. When do I start?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:17 am
HC Fassel
OC Mariucci
DC Fox
I’d be real good with that!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:16 am
offseason prediction:
Al Davis will shock the world by turning the team over to his son, Mark Davis.
2 weeks later Bill Parcells will be named VP of football operations.
3 days later a former Raider legend (pick one) is named GM.
Parcells will bring in Jason Garrett as HC and a bunch of former Giants/Jets/Cowboys/Dolphins assistants to fill out the staff
we will proceed to have the best offseason ever – despite missing a 1st rounder.
big names will be purged from the roster, including Campbell, Gallery, Seymour & Asomugha
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Hah! Don’t I wish.
Will the skies also open up and rain manna and honey?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:18 am
Al Davis will shock the world by turning the team over to his son, Mark Davis.
2 weeks later Bill Parcells will be named VP of football operations.
3 days later a former Raider legend (pick one) is named GM.
Parcells will bring in Jason Garrett as HC and a bunch of former Giants/Jets/Cowboys/Dolphins assistants to fill out the staff
we will proceed to have the best offseason ever – despite missing a 1st rounder.
big names will be purged from the roster, including Campbell, Gallery, Seymour & Asomugha
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I’d be good wit that!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am
Got to run. LATER NATION!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am
It would make my day Sunday, if Tebow went head up against MM during the game.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:20 am
Will the skies also open up and rain manna and honey?
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LOL
dont forget the quail
and yes!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:21 am
It would make my day Sunday, if Tebow went head up against MM during the game.
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Nnamdi Asomugha will probably get TRUCKED by Tebow, like his mentor CWood did by Kordell Stewart (Bears)
October 21st, 2010 at 11:21 am
Jim Fassell? Honestly, does anyone really want a head coach who writes Al Davis a letter basically saying he wants to be his puppet? That reminds me of Bugel. His first day here he says that he welcomes Al’s meddling. No surprise he took a team that missed the playoffs by one game to 4-12.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:22 am
Give Nnamdi more credit than that, RRS, remember how he tackled Ryan Clady last year?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:23 am
RMR, don’t misunderstand me as wanting Fassel. The whole odds thing is done with tongue planted firmly in cheek and is mostly for my own amusement as the season’s death march continues.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:24 am
RMR, in the history of the blog??
Thanks for the acknowledgment!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:24 am
remember how he tackled Ryan Clady last year?
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I remember Dick Seymour slammed Clady to the ground by his dreads!
that was hilarious …
October 21st, 2010 at 11:27 am
Has Tebow attempted a pass yet? If not, they’ll try and have him do it this week to take advantage of our “top notch” safeties, you watch.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:27 am
Pretty stupid comment, Ray. Mexican Cartel? Jut think about what you said.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:29 am
mostly for my own amusement as the season’s death march continues
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PA, last 10 games of the season = death march?
DANG!
We lost to Arizona & San Fran, but SD lost to St Louis & Seattle … and i’m pretty sure they haven’t thrown in the towel yet (same record)
we need to pass around a GET WELL SOON card for Gradkowski, Schilens & Henderson or something
October 21st, 2010 at 11:33 am
That’s just the natural pessimism peaking through, RRS.
Season ain’t dead yet, but it’s also on life support with the family getting ready to pull the plug.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:34 am
You guys think Goethal see’s action this Sunday if healthy?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:35 am
Random sad fact: You know that Gallery is the only one of the first 8 players taken in the 2004 draft that never made at least one Pro Bowl?
And he was supposed to be the “safe, can’t miss” pick too.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:37 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:15 am
# r8eray Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 10:05 am
Next war is against the Mexican Cartel…mark my words!
…………..
Dumbest political comment in the history of this blog.
Why is this a dumb comment?
The U.S. is almost entirely to blame for the drug-war in Mexico.
The demand by Americans for drugs is what created the problem.
The guns that the Cartels are using are smuggled from the U.S. into Mexico.
How did we not creat this problem?
Have you seen the suffering of the people of Mexico?
October 21st, 2010 at 11:38 am
Random sad fact: You know that Gallery is the only one of the first 8 players taken in the 2004 draft that never made at least one Pro Bowl?
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I don’t think Bob Gallery is sad
I’m sure he’s been to Hawaii many times with all that money Al Davis gave him!
October 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
How can anyone think we have a chance to win more than 3 or 4 more games, especially since Bruce is hurt? We’ve lost to an Arizona team that will be lucky to finish 7-9 and an 0-5 SF team that is garbage.
The only “easy” game on the sched is Jax, and captain Kirk will probably pick off Boller twice and at least one for 6!
This team does one thing well, choke! There isn’t a team in the league that has put up as many flaming bags of chit as the Raiders have since and including their last posteason game.
My rant for the day.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:39 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:38 am
Random sad fact: You know that Gallery is the only one of the first 8 players taken in the 2004 draft that never made at least one Pro Bowl?
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I don’t think Bob Gallery is sad
I’m sure he’s been to Hawaii many times with all that money Al Davis gave him!
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And has a nice collection of old school cars.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:41 am
Southwick will be the the next head coach and GM, ala Holmgren in Seattle
October 21st, 2010 at 11:43 am
Season ain’t dead yet, but it’s also on life support with the family getting ready to pull the plug.
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only 2 ways to respond after a loss to the 0-5 forty9s
1. get depressed and pack it in. start looking at vacation packages for January
2. get motivated and start living up to that potential. have to win your division to clinch a playoff spot. this Donks game is important
watch the 1st & 4th quarter of this Raider/Bronco game twice. that’ll tell you all you need to know about the rest of this season imo
October 21st, 2010 at 11:44 am
Ferentz made Gallery appear to be a stud. In retrospect, should have been a 2-3rd rounder.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:46 am
Gallery makes Loper appear to be a stud
October 21st, 2010 at 11:47 am
Hue Jackson will be the next HC. I doubt Al would hire anyone or anyone else good will even want to come here unless there is a drastic change i.e. a new GM in town. It’s just a sad, sad state of affairs to see another season go down the drain if our Raiders lose this week.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:48 am
The only “easy” game on the sched is Jax, and captain Kirk will probably pick off Boller twice and at least one for 6!
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They crushed Dungver in Week 1. I hope we can do the same!
prediction: Morrison = beast against Oakland
Print That
October 21st, 2010 at 11:52 am
Do any of you guys listen to the radio show “Razor and Mr. T” on KNBR? Those guys are a total bunch of jerks and SF Niner homers. They only bring clueless people like Jarod Cooper who can bash the Raiders.
October 21st, 2010 at 11:54 am
@Rockstar
Debo Said: “Another myth about Grads that has been debunked.
Myth: Grads is a smart player. The 16 he scored on the Wonderlic is pretty telling, huh?”
Sorry, I hate when people just make crap up. Debo is a fanatical Russell suporter. He feels the Raiders worst off-season move was releasing Russell. He says that he will trade his allegience from the Raiders to whatever team picks Russell up. Debo believes Russell was worth every penny the Raiders paid him! That is why he hates Gradkowski.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
If Morrison plays like a beast it will be the first time in his undistinguished and soon-to-be-culminated career.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Is Debo ebonic for Tebow?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I think our next QB will be Carson Palmer. I bet the Bengels release him* next year and Al picks him up.
(From what I have seen, Palmer has not been the same since sholder surgery. His play is bringing the Bengels down. He seems to be surronded by a pretty good supporting cast)
October 21st, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Debo is a fanatical Russell suporter. He feels the Raiders worst off-season move was releasing Russell. He says that he will trade his allegience from the Raiders to whatever team picks Russell up. Debo believes Russell was worth every penny the Raiders paid him! That is why he hates Gradkowski.
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LOL! are you serious?
Dutch, so in other words … you think Debo is incorrect?
maybe he supports JaWalrus in the bellyfat walk-a-thon?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Dutch: Palmer is still a very good QB
not in Peyton Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Schaub, Rivers sort of way!
but in the Eli Manning, Roethlisberger, McNabb, Romo, Cutler sort of way …
October 21st, 2010 at 12:07 pm
DutchRaider, work on the attention span, bud. I never said the US didn’t have its hands dirty in the drug trade, I said the idea of the US going to war with the Cartels is stupid. It is. Of course, if you think about it. But I don’t think these “illegal immigrants are bringing drugs into america, oh my!!” right wingers are capable of thinking anyway.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Bo, “ebonics” was a radical idea of the ’90s that went nowhere. Most people have stopped talking about it, except for redneck racists who of course live int the past anyway, and the ’90s is actually the future to them.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
So when is Al’s second HOF induction ceremony scheduled?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
So when is Al’s second HOF induction ceremony scheduled?
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The day of his death.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
“Real MaddenRaider” is ebonic for self-loathing abuse whore.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
So when is Al’s second HOF induction ceremony scheduled?
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The day of his death.
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Al will join God’s HOF?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
“Al Davis” is ebonic for consistent losing.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
So when is Al’s second HOF induction ceremony scheduled?
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The day of his death.
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Al will join God’s HOF?
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Don’t know him personally, so I couldn’t say yes or no.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:41 am
Southwick will be the the next head coach and GM, ala Holmgren in Seattle
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I predict whenever Al dies, it’ll turn out that Mark Davis has zero desire to run an NFL franchise and that the Oakland Raiders franchise has been willed to Danny Southwick.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
“Real MaddenRaider” is ebonic for self-loathing abuse whore.
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Bo Chimp, you’re such a racist piece of schht.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Jarrod Cooper bashes the Raiders? I find that hard to believe.
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kokomo Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 11:52 am
Do any of you guys listen to the radio show “Razor and Mr. T” on KNBR? Those guys are a total bunch of jerks and SF Niner homers. They only bring clueless people like Jarod Cooper who can bash the Raiders.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Kell, Bo’s still afraid of ebonics. I told him it was a radical idea from two decades ago that went nowhere. Bo’s overwhelmed. He’s still trying to memorize jive. Now ebonics comes along.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
“Al Davis” is ebonic for consistent losing.
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Try again later. No one currently here wants to play your “abuse me please” game.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:16 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I predict whenever Al dies, it’ll turn out that Mark Davis has zero desire to run an NFL franchise and that the Oakland Raiders franchise has been willed to Danny Southwick.
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Glory be to Al!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Bo, in twenty years instead of saying “slump”, they’ll be saying, “They’re in a bit of an Al Davis right now”. ROLMFAO
October 21st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Palmer also had his knee torn up.
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(From what I have seen, Palmer has not been the same since sholder surgery. His play is bringing the Bengels down. He seems to be surronded by a pretty good supporting cast)
October 21st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
KK, coming from a racist piece of sh!t like you? Oh so painful.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
RMR
Bo Chimp constantly tries to bait me with his racist garbage.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Is simply using the term ebonic somehow racist KK? Did it never happen?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Al should at least hire Matt Millen as GM, just to say…
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Bo Chimp, you need to go wash your mouth out with Darren McFadden’s jockstrap.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Kell, it’s not that hard to piss Bo off. Watch:
Hey Bo, in twenty years, whenever a team blows a game at the end, they’ll say, “They had the game in control then did an Al Davis…”
ha ha ha
October 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Juan Williams is a bigot. NPR fired him for saying he is afraid of ebonic-speaking muslims at the airport.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Using the term ebonics isn’t racist, Bo. But purposely baiting black people on a blog is. It’s not black peoples’ fault that Al Davis sucks, Bo. It’s that Al stupid, and a fraud. Al has no business owning an NFL team. That’s all. Can’t blame black people.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Roseville Galleria evacuated, man barricaded inside, smoke pouring out
LIVE STREAM: Mall evacuated
ROSEVILLE – Mall customers were leaving the Westfield Galleria at Roseville Thursday as a SWAT team works with local law enforcement to respond to a situation where a man barricaded himself inside a storeroom
October 21st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Leinhart or Campbell?
Who would you start this Sunday, if both were on the team?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Juan Williams is a fool. Everyone knows that. He’s been a token black reporter for a lot of news agencies, and he’s been a total coward to the neo-con movement for the past 10 years. Glad he’s finally done. Hopefully the next token black guy hired by all of these agencies has a little bit more of a spine.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Anyone here with the history of NFL, can you tell me something about mike silver, yahoo sports columnist? He always seems to talk negative about the Raiders.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Al should at least hire Matt Millen as GM, just to say
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I was going to say Millen is worse than Al, but then I remembered that Millen drafted Calvin Johnson, which gives him a more recent first round success than Al, since the jury is still out on McFadden.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
612.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Bo, in twenty years instead of saying “slump”, they’ll be saying, “They’re in a bit of an Al Davis right now”. ROLMFAO
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Too funny.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Yep. That mall situation is on all the news stations.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:24 pm
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Leinhart or Campbell?
Who would you start this Sunday, if both were on the team?
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Well, both hold the rank of Captain in the Checkdown Army…..but I’d probably have to go with Leinart, actually.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Al should at least hire Matt Millen as GM, just to say
++++++++++++++++++
I was going to say Millen is worse than Al, but then I remembered that Millen drafted Calvin Johnson, which gives him a more recent first round success than Al, since the jury is still out on McFadden.
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Yeah, but he finally found the right WR, after selecting 4 others in previous drafts.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Mall fire, right on time for the holidays. Wow.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Leinhart or Campbell?
Who would you start this Sunday, if both were on the team?
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Woohoooo, that’s a tough one. lol
October 21st, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Looks like it’s arson, too. Terrorism. Straight up. Bet you it’s a white guy. Ooops, that’s racist. Sorry, Bo.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Over/Under- Tim Tebow scores 2 touchdowns on gadget plays.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Kokomo Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Anyone here with the history of NFL, can you tell me something about mike silver, yahoo sports columnist? He always seems to talk negative about the Raiders.
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Highly respected member of the Sports Journalism community.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Fremont High Tigers!
Go Raiders!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Raider Fans need to realize that when you’re 31-87, you’re not going to get a lot of glowing reports from sports journalists.
It’s not personal.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Malls are racist. Burn em all.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo, it’s actually a black guy. They’re showing him now. You feel better?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Raider Fans need to realize that when you’re 31-87, you’re not going to get a lot of glowing reports from sports journalists.
It’s not personal.
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Thanks.. It makes sense and yes Mike Silver does talk a lot of sense. For ex; he thinks Cable should be fired for performance given his team has produced one offensive TD or fewer in some 18 games out of the 34 he has coached.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
safety Mike Mitchell question:
Thoughts on how you played against the 49ers and Vernon Davis after playing so well against the Chargers and Antonio Gates?
“Well, Vernon didn’t have a catch this week on me so I guess that’s an improvement. I gave up one against Gates and I gave up none this week, this past week. I just want to keep getting better, keep progressing. I think the coaches and the players on my team, I think I’m gaining their respect, slowly but surely. I just got to keep working and find out what I didn’t do good last week and improve going into this next game. That’s what this thing’s about — 16 games, every week you’ve just got to keep getting a little better.”
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
October 21st, 2010 at 12:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo, it’s actually a black guy. They’re showing him now. You feel better?
……………OMG ITS JUAN WILLIAMS
October 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
It began at the GameStop store. LOL. I already know what happened.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
“Well, Vernon didn’t have a catch this week on me…”
If by letting your man roam free into the end zone for an uncontested Touchdown you mean he didnt have a catch on you, then yes Missle Mike you did a great fkn job…
October 21st, 2010 at 12:41 pm
643.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
It began at the GameStop store. LOL. I already know what happened.
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Futhermuckers where out of copies of NBA2k11!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Podunk this week:
-average day of first frost
-look for spiders ballooning on clear, windy days
-orionid meteor shower peaks, moon interferes
-green winged teal migration at its peak
-juncos arrive from Canada
-striped skunks are fattening up for the winter
-snow goose population at wetland areas at its peak
-bullfrogs begin hibernation
October 21st, 2010 at 12:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:39 pm
It began at the GameStop store. LOL. I already know what happened.
……….thats only 30 miles north of you where you bought your al davis fathead wall poster.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:44 pm
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Al should at least hire Matt Millen as GM, just to say
++++++++++++++++++
I was going to say Millen is worse than Al, but then I remembered that Millen drafted Calvin Johnson, which gives him a more recent first round success than Al, since the jury is still out on McFadden.
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Yeah, but he finally found the right WR, after selecting 4 others in previous drafts.
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What was the name of the worst one of em all?
Hey, Pete Carroll has Mike Williams playing well at least.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
If by letting your man roam free into the end zone for an uncontested Touchdown you mean he didnt have a catch on you, then yes Missle Mike
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BCZ,
was Mitch “the abused” on that play?
I know CJ37 was to blame for Crabs TD
October 21st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Ok I think we got a better shot today. Boller will start this weekend. Chalk that baby up. I have no clue how he will do but I assume it will be better than 10.7. I am sure he will remember the formations.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Yeah, but he finally found the right WR, after selecting 4 others in previous drafts.
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What was the name of the worst one of em all?
Hey, Pete Carroll has Mike Williams playing well at least.
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Roy Williams is playing pretty well for Dallas, too.
Charles Rogers had a drug problem he couldn’t shake, I think…
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Carl, Millen’s worst draft pick has to be Charles Rogers. No talent, mentally unstable, easily injured. He’s now broke, drug addicted and I think might even be homeless.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
@The Real MaddenRaider Says:
The drug cartels have been monitoring the border along the Rio Grande. The make sure that they get a cut of the action of everyone that crosses over.
Mexico is not winning the war with the cartels. We invaded Afghnistan because they supported Al Queda. No, not advocating invasion of Mexico, but advocatin supporting the Mexican government. Guess where the Drug Cartels get their financing and weapons from? Did you hear the Mexican mayor who was gunned down with his whole political team and at the press briefing, the reporters in the room did not ask any questions? Why, because they are executing politicians, reporters and citizens who stand up to the cartels. [NPR had a very in depth story yesterday, probably can get it on Podcasst]
Educate yourself on the issue and the suffering of our neighbor and then reply!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
MR,
Juan Williams made absolutely no eubonics comments. You made that up. What got him in trouble was this:
“The comments which led to the firing of Williams revolved around his admitting to Bill O’Reilly that he gets “nervous” and “worried” when he boards a plane and sees “people in Muslim garb.” That is what was said that the leftist NPR got upset wth. Being a liberal didn’t give Juan Williams any cover. I have no problem with firing him for stereotyping Muslims, but the other is your BS.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Mike Silver doesn’t care for the Raiders or more specifically Davis and has some kind of grudge against the team-warrented or not.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Charles Rogers that’s the Jarussell of the bunch!
October 21st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Ok I think we got a better shot today. Boller will start this weekend. Chalk that baby up.
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AIG, is this official?
or just your best guess?
I thought Caveman Cable said soemthing about a game-time decision …
October 21st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
PA & CW agreed
Charles Rogers has to be pretty high on Detroit’s 1st round bust list …
October 21st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
juan williams was fired for being associated with foxx news which npr cant atand.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:51 pm
652.SilverNBlackPA Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Carl, Millen’s worst draft pick has to be Charles Rogers. No talent, mentally unstable, easily injured. He’s now broke, drug addicted and I think might even be homeless.
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And yet….in 15 games he had 36 receptions, 440 yards and 4 TDs
DHB: 17 games, 23 receptions, 285 yards, 1 TD
October 21st, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Charles Rogers: 15 games he had 36 receptions, 440 yards and 4 TDs
Darrius Heyward-Bey: 17 games, 23 receptions, 285 yards, 1 TD
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LOL! nice work Dakota …
October 21st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
LMFAO, Dakota, well done. So, so, so pathetic.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I agree with Dakota, we need to get DHB a drug problem! Kidding, Rogers was actually pretty good until he broke both collar bones…damn you Dre Bly! Rogers looked awesome as a rookie.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Lefty12 Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Mike Silver doesn’t care for the Raiders or more specifically Davis and has some kind of grudge against the team-warrented or not.
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Can you provide a link?
October 21st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
641
That’s right.. Welcome to the other side buddy. Glad to have you.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
BCZ,
was Mitch “the abused” on that play?
I know CJ37 was to blame for Crabs TD
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Nah, actually our entire defense bit when Smith ran right, Davis ran free to the left and boom TD. I was SCREAMING at my tv. Alex wasnt going to run why the fudge did our WHOLE defense bite on that bootleg. Turrrable.
October 21st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
644
I suggest you go back and look at the play.. he was covering the middle of the field in a ZONE
October 21st, 2010 at 12:59 pm
649
No he wasn’t.. the aforementioned poster hasn’t a knowledge of zone or man 2 man coverages…
October 21st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Al, sign Charles Rogers, he will immediately be our best WR.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:01 pm
oops
October 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
That’s right.. Welcome to the other side buddy. Glad to have you.
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NE!
you’re always around when theres a Mike Mitchell quote or debate around
have you been following the YouTube sensation since his Ohio days ???
October 21st, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Raider O, I can’t believe you failed Operation Neutered Wolverine!
“Man carrying two unloaded M16 rifles allowed onto field
CBSSports.com wire reports
Oct. 21, 2010
ANN ARBOR, Mich. — A full-time National Guardsman toting two unloaded M16 assault rifles was allowed onto the Michigan Stadium field before the Michigan-Michigan State football game.
Security officials allowed the man into the stadium, where more than 113,000 people had gathered, because his weapons were empty and no ammunition was found.
A member of the color guard reported the impostor, who was escorted out by police.
Brown said the unidentified man was compliant, and told officers he used his uniform as a ruse because he wanted to attend the Oct. 9 game but could not get a ticket.
Diane Brown, a spokeswoman for the university’s department of public safety, told WJBK-TV that school officials do not believe anything was done “incorrectly or improperly by police in any of the checkpoints.”
Brown declined immediate comment when reached on Thursday.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
635.KoolKell Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Kokomo Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Anyone here with the history of NFL, can you tell me something about mike silver, yahoo sports columnist? He always seems to talk negative about the Raiders.
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Highly respected member of the Sports Journalism community.
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I don’t know about Silver being a well respected journalist. He’s a joker kind of guy. He has a forum to spout his views but I’ve never heard him talked about in glowing terms myself. That being said,
everyone talks bad about Oakland cuz it’s well deserved.
People, we can’t just wish away the media talking negative in regard to the Raiders. When the scoreboard starts saying that the Raiders are winning games than it will stop. Until then, we have NOTHING to stand on to say anything contrary to the media criticism. The Raiders are LOSERS. What can we say to refute the idea we are a pathetic franchise? “We try hard…sometimes” is not enough, we have to actually WIN SOME FREAKIN’ GAMES and maybe, just maybe, get over .500 and we’ll get some respect.
It’s just the way it is.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Dakota,
Cable (the guy who beats his wife and punches asst coaches) has a policy. no knuckleheads
please tell me what this team would look like with Vick, Burress & Owens right now …
October 21st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
NE I was totally being sarcastic dude. I like Mitchell and think he should get more time. I went on to say that our entire D bit on Alex Smiths bootleg allowing Davis to run free to the end zone. I am not even certain Mitchell was on the field when that play occured. I have a very good understanding of man and zone coverages, unfortunately the players in our secondary apparently do not.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
666.bcz24 Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
BCZ,
was Mitch “the abused” on that play?
I know CJ37 was to blame for Crabs TD
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Nah, actually our entire defense bit when Smith ran right, Davis ran free to the left and boom TD. I was SCREAMING at my tv. Alex wasnt going to run why the fudge did our WHOLE defense bite on that bootleg. Turrrable.
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because our defense is a bunch of dim witted retards who are badly coached.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Silver, who lists pro football, pro basketball, tennis and college softball as his favorite sports to cover, has received numerous writing awards from several organizations, including the Pro Football Writers of America, the Associated Press Sports Editors and the Pro Basketball Writers of America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Silver
October 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
notice how players heal quicker on teams that still have a playoff shot. I bet the raiders will have half the guys sitting out with a couple more losses………..
October 21st, 2010 at 1:10 pm
What if Juan Williams said he doesnt like Christians and dont feel comfy sitting next to them on an airplane? I wonder if Conservatives would ask for him to be fired right away? Conservatives crack me up.
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exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
MR,
Juan Williams made absolutely no eubonics comments. You made that up. What got him in trouble was this:
“The comments which led to the firing of Williams revolved around his admitting to Bill O’Reilly that he gets “nervous” and “worried” when he boards a plane and sees “people in Muslim garb.” That is what was said that the leftist NPR got upset wth. Being a liberal didn’t give Juan Williams any cover. I have no problem with firing him for stereotyping Muslims, but the other is your BS.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
DutchRaider, you’re the one who needs to educate yourself on the issue. You gave the perfect neo-con take on drug cartels. You obviously have learned nothing from the events of the past 10 years. Before watching any more Fox News, at least try to study up on the connection between our drug laws and the profits of drug dealers. See if you can use that brain and think of a solution, considering those resources, that doesn’t involve sending more kids to die.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Mikeschoice Says:
October 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
notice how players heal quicker on teams that still have a playoff shot. I bet the raiders will have half the guys sitting out with a couple more losses………..
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Oooooh Yeah.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Donald Trump announces he is running for president
October 21st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Juan Williams is a Patriot
October 21st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Juan Williams is about the biggest non story I can think of today. They could bury it and it would have no effect on my life. NPR fired him for making a cruel statement about Muslims that he had no basis to make. Good for them.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Jesus…what is the deal and major malfunction with these Bay Area football teams??
The Niners and Raiders are freakin STUPID!
Goodell has been basically telling them, that if they get together and share a modern state of the art stadium like what has happened with the New York teams, then it will be easier on both their wallets in this tough economy. Plus I’m sure the NFL will help them with financing and the Bay Area would also be in the running for Super Bowls every 5-6 years!
The Yorks and old looney Al need to get their heads out of their collective asses!
October 21st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Christians have done their fair share of killing over the years, but did Christians hijack planes and then fly them into the world trade towers in the name of Jezuz?
Would Rachael Maddow be kicked off her show if she said she was uncomfortable sending her kids to a Catholic Church? I doubt it.
October 21st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
new post!
October 21st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Mike Silver is a spy for any team playing the Raiders, he used to get info from team officals and give it to the team they were playing. They found out kicked him off the campus in LA. He also spread rumors about Mr Davis using half truths and embellishing negative stuff. This was when they were winning so it had nothing to do with the record. Sorry KK.