Cable on QB: We have no idea
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 20th, 2010 at 10:39 am in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Tom Cable, speaking by conference call to the Denver media Wednesday morning, said, “We have no idea at this point” who will start at quarterback against the Broncos.
“It’s difficult in that you’d like to be settled and know where you’re headed, but we’ve got some issues,” Cable said. “So, I don’t really know when we’ll have something definitive, hopefully tomorrow, but today we’ll learn a lot, so we’ll see.”
The Raiders will have no coordinators available today, nor will they send a quarterback to the podium to speak with the media.
The Raiders open locker room session begins at approximately 10:45 a.m.
More to come . . .
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October 20th, 2010 at 10:40 am
PRIMERO
October 20th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Really?
October 20th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Does it really matter, none of those QBs can tackle anyway. Some running back will be contained all day, EXCEPT for those two or three runs right through the middle of our defense for over 125 yards……….again!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Maybe Cable will start Chris Johnson at QB…he can’t be worse there than he is at the CB.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:47 am
At least if CJ was the QB, he’d get an interception.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:50 am
“WE HAVE NO IDEA” – 4 words that describes the Raider’s coaching staff and their method of operation when it comes to turning this team around or their direction from above.
DON’T HAVE A CLUE is just another observation of their abilities to affect change.
SSDD – Same Schit Different Day. Our version of the groundhog day scenario we find ourselves entangled with for the last 8 years.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:50 am
BOLLER BOLLER!!!! He’s our only chance, he’ll probably suck like he did in Baltimore, but he’s our only chance since we aint running the wildcat
October 20th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Mike Bush at QB!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:55 am
How can they have no idea? It’s obvious, anyone but Jason!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Second and third words of the headline are completely unnecessary
October 20th, 2010 at 10:57 am
What is Cable and his fear of calling people out that need to perform? This is getting pathetic. Jason has no emotion when he plays. At least bring that to the game if your not going to make completions.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Ronald Curry for QB
October 20th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I guess the are drawing straws to see who gets stuck with telling the fan base that we are still screwed and “WE STILL HAVE ISSUES”. No Schit Dick Tracy. I think we’ve already figured that out.
AD really needs to bring Bill Parcells in to clean house. AD & Parcells are friends so that relationship is workable if either of the parties choose to make it happen. Maybe he could bring in Harbaugh as HC and Wade Philips should be available by then to become our DC.
We could turn this thing around if AD would only give it a chance.
October 20th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Keep in mind this is not a QB controversy. This is an owner insisting on a lousy QB and a coach pleading for the better one.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:00 am
What is Cable and his fear of calling people out that need to perform? This is getting pathetic. Jason has no emotion when he plays. At least bring that to the game if your not going to make completions.
yeah raider dave I was hoping I would see Hue or Cable give campbell the business on the sideline but nothing! It probably wouldn’t have mattered but anything is worth a shot! Puttin in Boller we might have won the game but now were a loss in Denver away from being last in the division when we could have been alone in 2nd place
October 20th, 2010 at 11:00 am
L.A. Raider Dave Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:57 am
What is Cable and his fear of calling people out that need to perform?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtbLLnDR4ps
October 20th, 2010 at 11:02 am
How does my supporting JaMarcus absolve your sorry ass from all the crap you spew. I can’t count in an entire day how many times you guy’s have said a player whpo starts here wouldn’t start somewhere else and almost to a man ypour always wrong.
Now you have the unmitigated nerve to say it again which the hieght of stupidity and ignorance. Just say nothing that way the leather taste in your mouth will soon dissipate.
Truth is YOU DON”T KNOW CRAP……….period so shut up!!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:02 am
ELWAYs TEETH Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:47 am
At least if CJ was the QB, he’d get an interception
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lol
October 20th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I mean even Alex Smith got it together enough to make some plays (and he was horrible), but Singletary was ALL OVER HIM on the sidelines. All Jason did was go to the sideline and have a blank expression on his face.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Priest,
I WANT WINNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JASON CAMPBELL, YOU’RE NOT A WINNER!!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Let me throw the football! I’ll make you all believe that we have Montana, P.Manning and Brady on our roster no problem!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:05 am
If Cable said today, “I want winners!!!”
This is what you would hear tomorrow:
“This is a regretful day for the Raiders. I was excited when I hired Tom Cable…”
October 20th, 2010 at 11:05 am
To The Real MaddenRaider Post#16
He’s gonna get fired either way! For losing Al’s way or for trying to do ANYTHING to win. I’d rather have the later and I’m sure the entire Raider Nation does too!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
MR Most coaches don’t call out their players it’s called keeping it in house. You(fans) are on a need to know basis and you don’t need to know what their doing behind doors. If that rankles your feathers TOUGH!!
No team would support a coach who routinely does that. It’s probably the reason the niners were 0-5 because he dresses down his coaches his players in public.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:10 am
#22 LOL!!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:12 am
The Raiders will play hard on Sunday. Don’t know that they’ll win, but they’ll play hard. Campbell will not be the starter.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Darren Mcfadden for QB… I’m gonna start preaching this. He’s done it before…
October 20th, 2010 at 11:13 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Keep in mind this is not a QB controversy. This is an owner insisting on a lousy QB and a coach pleading for the better one.
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I agree. That’s what this sounds like to me from Cable’s comments.
If Grads is injured and Campbell’s injured then it should be a no brainer. Start Boller.
If Grads is injured, and Campbell is NOT injured, then based on Campbell’s performance it should be Boller.
I don’t see the problem.
Sounds to me like Campbell’s knee isn’t bad enough to keep him off the field, Cable and Jackson want to start Boller, but Big Al is opposed to that idea.
This appears cut and dry to me. If Boller is healthy, he should be starting.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
This is bad news in that it means Grads might be more seriously injured than thought.
There is no QB controversy if Grads is healthy.
There is no Raider passing offense if he isn’t.
At least not if Campbell is at the helm.
Cable shouldn’t be saying ‘we have no idea’. He should be saying ‘If Grads can’t go, then Boller will. JaJason will not start again this year’.
Sort of like when he assured a grateful Raider nation that it wouldn’t have to endure another Sunday with JaMoron starting last season.
If I was a Mule fan I’d be salivating over the thought of facing the Raids with JaJason at QB. Maybe Cable should announce JaJason as the starter just to get them overconfident.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
If Gradikowski can throw the ball past the line of scrimmage at practice today. he will start. If he can’t tie his shoes to go to practice it’s going to be Boller. I hope Boller ties Gradikowski’s shoes.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:15 am
DMAC for QB!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Where is Chad penington? #1 in compleations in the NFL.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:18 am
By the way where is our D?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Sorry compeation % not overall compleations.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
At this point, there is no faith in Campbell. I also believe that it will be Cable’s call, not Al’s.
After, what 10.7 QB rating? and that BS attitude, even Davis will give Tom the pass. He wants the ball in the hands of his brilliant WRs and Campbell can’t do it.
Boller’s a first round reclaimation project. If he wins, just let Al take the credit.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Maybe Cable or Hue should play some QB.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Hell at this point old man Gannon would be an upgrade over any of the three guys we got.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Hue should be WR coach and a real o coordinator brought in.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Danny Southwick anyone? Can I get a QB? Please!!!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:23 am
As crappy as as our offensive line is. You would think that they would have a contingency plan in place in case they run out of QB’s? Beside I don’t know? Great scheming and coaching being done in Oakland.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I think Troy Smith is out there somewhere too.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:24 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Hell at this point old man Gannon would be an upgrade over any of the three guys we got.
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Wonder if Mark Davis (or whoever takes over when Al is unable to run the team) will bring in former Raiders to coach or manage.
Romo as LBs coach, Howie as DC, Rich as OC. Gruden HC. Dream line up. Oh well, there’s always Madden. At least there, the Raiders are good every year with a real GM/HC at the helm.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Man to think we could of had McNabb and TO right now.. I’m feeling sick.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Would love to see Madden come in as a GM or advisor.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Troy Smith is on the 49er roster, McNabb said no to Oakland, and TO would still be waiting for someone to throw him the ball. Just like Moss when we had him.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:28 am
The Pats are loving every loss the Raiders take this year. I’m feeling sicker
October 20th, 2010 at 11:28 am
the raiders need to spend money on a great coach first. instead they over pay on jamarcus russell ($32 million guaranteed) or nnamdi (2 years were guaranteed at $28 million).
without a coach like bill cowher or gruden – nothing will come of the team.
they will just continue to drift. broncos/hawks/steelers/chiefs are upcoming -
raiders lucky to win 3 more games all year.
“Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck.”
-don shula
October 20th, 2010 at 11:28 am
It’s going to be the kid from Hawaii Colt Brennan as our number 2 or 3 QB on Sunday. Go Rainbow Warrior!
October 20th, 2010 at 11:29 am
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
MR Most coaches don’t call out their players it’s called keeping it in house. You(fans) are on a need to know basis and you don’t need to know what their doing behind doors. If that rankles your feathers TOUGH!!
No team would support a coach who routinely does that. It’s probably the reason the niners were 0-5 because he dresses down his coaches his players in public.
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The key word here being routinely. You are correct, it would not be a wise approach to continually berate your players. However, it would be refreshing to see Cable at least once show the emotion that we all know is or at least should be there.
Misery loves company and it is not unreasonable to expect our on field leader to at least share our pain every now & then. Possibly, this is one of the visible emotions that Gruden wore on his sleeve that endeared him to the fans. John Madden was certainly involved with his players and at times “communicated” with players he wasn’t happy with.
Inaction on the part of Tom Cable, when confronted with obvious system failures, can easily be construed as being lackadaisical or worse, being oblivious to his surroundings. This perception does not build confidence in one’s ability to deal with the issues at hand.
My recommendation to TC would be if you are going down, do it while you are swinging and take them with you. Fight for your continued survival Tom. Quit being a mushroom – living in the dark while eating bullschit. You should be better than that.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:29 am
James Harrison was excused from practice and is contemplating retirement.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:30 am
I think McNabb could of been had if Al would of tried harder. TO would of been the perfect Raider. Maybe he would of got the whole Oline to do some sit ups in thier driveways.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Boller is gonna start we all know it. If they start cambell then everyone who says al Davis says who plays and who doesn’t each game would be true. But don’t worry nation boller will have a killer day. I remember when cable said having two capable qb’s is a good problem to have for a coach. Lmao that sure did backfire on him. The man is clueless.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Skip, you are correct.
1) get a GM
2) get a good coaching staff
3) make EVERY player on the roster tradable
4) rebuild and get ready for 2012
October 20th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Why would Cable tip his hand for the Broncos by announcing who is quarterback is going to be when he has the perfect excuse to keep them guessing? It’s called gamesmanship. Brilliant move by Tom.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Calling Tom Cable clueless is a burn on Clueless.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Jb post 49,
Well said couldn’t have said it better myself.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
KC traded away thier best players and used the draft to build a new team. KC went out and got a good GM, HC, OC, & DC, look at them now. KC takes the division for the next three years. If they find a great QB somewhere they might run the table for the next 10 years.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:35 am
It’s Cable’s call, but he’s also got to have Al’s approval.
Al’s a stubborn old coot, but he’s not blind. He hoped JaJason could be Plunk II. He should know now that that was a pipe dream. In all honesty, he should have known that before giving up a 4th rd pick for him. But at the time bringing JaJason in seemed the right move because it was of paramount importance to rid the squad of the JaMoron cancer.
In any event, if Grads can’t go then Boller should. JaJason shouldn’t even be considered and should be cut unceremoniously to avoid offseason suspense. Then Preist can hope he gets picked up by Buffalo and start there. Or JaJason can share JaMoron’s fate of being unemployed.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Michael Bush…
Male High School
named Kentucky’s Mr. Football as a senior after leading Male to a 14-1 record and an appearance in the state title game … completed 190 of 304 passes for 2,891 yards and 35 touchdowns, rushed 131 times for 911 yards and seven scores and caught 17 passes for 152 yards and three touchdowns as a senior … completed 33 of 47 passes for 468 yards and six touchdowns, rushed 24 times for 116 yards and a score and caught two passes for 24 yards in Male’s 59-56 loss in the state finals .
October 20th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Maybe Russell and Campbell can open a Methadone clinic together.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Are the Raiders even bringing in some QBs for a try out?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bush – first string QB
DMAC – backup QB
October 20th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Could we get Daunte Culpepper out of retirement?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:43 am
I think Daunte would want in on the Methodone clinic with Campbell and Russell. Its the SLOW life man just roll wit it.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:44 am
You guys are the most pathetic fans I’ve ever seen. Stupidity abounds here that much is clear. That and the stench of adolesence.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
MR Most coaches don’t call out their players it’s called keeping it in house.
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“I WANT WINNERS!!!!!!” – Mike Singletary, coach of the 49ers, who just downed your Raiders last Sunday.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
What, duh?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Vince Evans no longer has the mobility, but he can still throw the ball deep
October 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Would love to see Madden come in as a GM or advisor.
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He already rejected the offer. That was Al’s “big” plan. Remember?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
True Singletary will get after his players, but at what point do the players stop responding to that sort of brow beating?
October 20th, 2010 at 11:47 am
No I don’t remember AL making any formal offer to Madden. Sorry.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Great coaches have called out players publicly throughout history, Priest. Parcells wrote the book on it. Belichick has been known to take the occasional shot across the bow at a player. In fact, only the lousy teams like the Raiders tend to believe in this “in house” nonsense. The teams that have so much to hide. The teams that want to win will clown a player publicly to get him playing better.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:48 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:47 am
No I don’t remember AL making any formal offer to Madden. Sorry.
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You can’t be that naive.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:50 am
If Troy Smith is on the SF practice squad, pick him up as our #2 or #3 QB and cut JCampbell right now. We need to find a fulltime QB soon.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:50 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
True Singletary will get after his players, but at what point do the players stop responding to that sort of brow beating?
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At what point will Raider players honestly believe they’re on vacation in the Bahamas because they have it so easy in Oakland? That’s what you should be asking yourself.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:50 am
We are “F’ed”. After relistening to Al Davis speak part 4 or 5 of the firing of Lance, He thinks a “coach should be with a team for 4-5 years.” NOOOOOOOO! I don’t want that dunce Cable for 3 more years
October 20th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Dude, no need to call me naive. I just don’t remember it. I do remember when Madden retired from TV and I heard talk of him talking to AL, taking in some games and such. I just don’t remember a formal job offer being made.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:51 am
inonewordraider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Could we get Daunte Culpepper out of retirement?
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Dauntes in the UFL.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
JB Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:50 am
If Troy Smith is on the SF practice squad, pick him up as our #2 or #3 QB and cut JCampbell right now. We need to find a fulltime QB soon.
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On regular squad as a vested veteran
October 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Raiderman99 the only Jason Campbell fan here is you, I’ll bet you also think if Michael Bush couldn’t start anywhere else……….probably Nnamdi too.
Dumbell.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
For those of you wondering how long before Singletar’s style will wear on his players…don’t question his technique. HE WON SUNDAY. Question the style of the team that lost. Question as to whether Raider players will start bringing lawn chairs and umbrellas to the sideline with them, because they’re surrounded by nothing but enablers.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
# RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
True Singletary will get after his players, but at what point do the players stop responding to that sort of brow beating?
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When they’ve been cut.
And yes, it is my understanding that AD did discuss with Madden about becoming involved as part of the organization. Madden says he was too old for that type of thing now and besides, he’d prefer to remain as friends with AD.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:54 am
RNO, you’re so naive it’s troubling if you think Davis didn’t try to get Madden here. Read between the lines.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I don’t want the players on Vacation. If the player is not playing hard put him on the bench. No need to brow beat a grown man. Make a statement the way we make a statement in pop warner though college. You play this way or you sit! No need to be an ahole about anything. Let the guy with less talent but more heart play. See how that works out.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Al Davis spoils his players, doesn’t let his coaches call them out, and that’s why the Raiders look like girls every Sunday. It’s why they lose every year. It’s why the fans that are kool aid drinkers get laughed at so hard everywhere they go.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:57 am
MADDENRAIDER!!!! I never said Al didn’t try to get Madden on the payroll! I said “I DONT REMEMBER!” dude, get over it.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:57 am
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:55 am
No need to brow beat a grown man.
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Nonsense. If a grown man doesn’t do what’s expected of him he’s not acting like a grown man, so you treat him like a child. That’s how the world works. Always has been.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:58 am
JB I’ve had enough of these wannabe QB’s we need a guy who’s done it. Won games been to probowls been to playoffs and the like. I can’t stand another one of these Gradkowski’s and Campbell’s and guy’s barely on rosters. They can keep Smith and good luck to them. I wouldn’t mind taking a longer look at Colt Brennan though.
This team cannpot go forward with out that position settled the sooner the better. Until we that’s done we’ll be frustrated.
October 20th, 2010 at 11:59 am
RNO, if you aren’t thoroughly convinced that Davis tried to get Madden, you’re naive. Period. Davis was talking about “something big” around the time Madden retired. Then he stopped talking about it. Use your head.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Yeah right MR you should know. That’s why you do what you do huh?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I’d like to see what Boller can do. It seems to me that of all our QBs he’s got the most upside. His time in Balt was brief, he was young, and if I’m not mistaken involved some coaching changes. It takes some time to learn to be a decent NFL QB, one of the toughest jobs in America. How the game plan and passing strategy interlaces with the personnel and the defense on a given day/game.
Anyway if Grads shoulder isn’t 90-95% then we need to see what Boller can do. If Campbell has a gimpy leg then that option should be off the table. That was about the only stuff he did decent at last Sunday.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
This team can’t go forward until the following positions are settled
WR
1) GM
2) HC
3) OC & DC
4) QB
5) OT
6) LB
7) OG
9) C
10) CB
October 20th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
The best way to make sure your team is full of grown men is to weed out the children by calling them out. If they rise to the challenge and start acting like men, they stay. If not, there’s an assistant JV coach position waiting for them at a local HS.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
11) NT/DT
October 20th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
MaddenRaider, you are a run on sentance…….
October 20th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Oh ya forgot NT/DT
October 20th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
TJ
Can’t argue with that assessment. We’ve become starved for success for so long that anything resembling a QB is hailed as the next coming. Maybe that explains AD’s premature proclamations. I’m sure he wants to win and is as frustrated as the rest of us. Actually more so because he does have the wherewithal to initiate change. He really has to be frustrated at the ongoing failure that unfortunately is his.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
And that’s why the 49ers just beat the Raiders with the worst QB in the game. They’re players are playing like men to avoid Singletary’s wrath. The Raiders simply don’t know of that kind of pressure. Only the gifted leaders like Miller and Gradkowski will step up in environments like that. And of course Gradkowski was on the bench.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
RNOraiderFan Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Danny Southwick anyone? Can I get a QB? Please!!!
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AMEN BROTHER!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
“I’ve had enough of these wannabe QB’s we need a guy who’s done it. Won games been to probowls been to playoffs and the like. I can’t stand another one of these Gradkowski’s and Campbell’s and guy’s barely on rosters.”
” I wouldn’t mind taking a longer look at Colt Brennan though.”
Ummmm… what?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
I was at that game Sunday and I’m telling you the 49ers just punched the Raiders in the mouth. All that was holding them back was Smith early on. If they had played Carr, they would have beat us 90-0.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Guys, Madden was EXPLICIT about retiring and getting out of the daily grind. Maybe he could be had for an advisory role but that didn’t work out real swell for the 9Balls and Bill Walsh if I recall.
Also while Parcells would be a great football person to lead us, he is also advancing in years and his AN EAST COAST guy. He has houses in Saratoga NY, and Jupiter FLA. and just retired from a sweet gig in FLA remember? Being a GM or a HC in the NFL is a 12-14hr a day grind. Barely a day off. Competing at the highest levels of the most competitive elements in the world takes a ton of energy. Its why an 81 yo man in poor health is ill-fit to run a pro NFL operation and why we are were we are. Its why you don’t see Gruden scrambling to back into the meat grinder.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
I’ve seen Danny do some work in shorts, the kid has some talent. Don’t know how he would do in a game. At this point whats the problem in tring?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
IMO, Mike Singletary will be fired at the end of this year. He is better suited to be in the role of a DC.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RealMaddenRaider for GM, he has all the answers!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I knew the RAiders were going to loose all along. Even with that stupid 9-3 field goal score, whatever it was. It was obvious early on that the Niners would be the team that busted out at the end. You could see it in the contact, the speed, the energy. You could hear it.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RAIDERS LOSE BECAUSE THEY DON’T WORK HARD. PERIOD.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Did you put $ on the second half?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
How much?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Just saying, if you knew.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Oh schit. I can’t believe someone has actually posted a worse QB rating than Campbell this season.
6.3 QB rating his last game and a 8.1 QB rating against the G-men.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
THEY’RE UNPREPARED FOR GAMES. THEY’RE GIVEN A LAXED WORK ENVIRONMENT. THEY’RE PROTECTED BY UPPER MANAGEMENT. COACHES ARE VOICELESS.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Cable has no idea? WTF? More like he had no idea how to be a head coach. Too bad really, I liked him.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
MR why are you shouting?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
You could hear it.
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Ah yes! “Crick” – the sound of a Japanese camera.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Trade Jon Condo! Period!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Leave it to me to publicly call out our weak links.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
The Raiders get physically beat, week after week, because they’re unprepared. If any coach tries to change this environment, he’s gone. And won’t get paid. That’s why Cable is just going along with it. It’s not his fault. He goes Kiffin and starts laying down the law, he gets fired with NO PAY. Kiffin still hasn’t gotten his money.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
WTF is a “A LAXED WORK ENVIRONMENT”?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Jon Condo? Are you serios? Why? He is a solid special teams player. A good long snapper, and typically the ONLY one making a tackle on special teams. Why do you think he should be traded?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
I was at that game Sunday and I’m telling you the 49ers just punched the Raiders in the mouth. All that was holding them back was Smith early on. If they had played Carr, they would have beat us 90-0.
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I actually thought the Raiders were the ones dominating the first half. They just didn’t score TD’s in the red zone.
Didn’t do schit after half time.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Is it lax or relaxed? Or laxative?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Condo is vying for Raider MVP this season.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Why do you think he should be traded?
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Who else has value?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I’ve got to run. LATER NATION!
Raiders 27 Donkeys 17
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Maybe Jon Condo would take the GM job. He’s got the doo.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Me too, lunch times up.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Trade Jon Condo! Period!
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Condo is one of the few GOOD PERFORMERS on this team. Why are you so insistent on shooting the good guys when there are so many other richer targets available?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
The Raiders get physically beat, week after week, because they’re unprepared. If any coach tries to change this environment, he’s gone. And won’t get paid. That’s why Cable is just going along with it. It’s not his fault. He goes Kiffin and starts laying down the law, he gets fired with NO PAY. Kiffin still hasn’t gotten his money.
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I wouldn’t use Kiffin as an example. Kiffin was, and still is a complete jack azz moron. Just ask the Vols and Jeff Fischer if you need an agreement.
Gruden is a better example. Al gave him some rope, but Gruden eventually didn’t have enough and got sick of it.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
That’s why those of you who said you want Singletary here crack me up. Singletary would read that little agreement that Al makes coaches sign, about the “Raider Way”, etc., actual legal language that binds coaches to Al’s philosophy, politely set it back on the table, stand up, kick his chair over, pull his pants down, and say, “This is what I think of you guys”, and then leave.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Jon Condo is a slackass waste of a good roster spot! WHERE IS ADAM TREU?!?!?!?!?!?!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
(just trying to motivate)
October 20th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Why do you think he should be traded?
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Who else has value?
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LOL, ok, you got me bro. I thought you were dissing Condo. Too bad our long snapper \ special teams player is the ONLY player on our team with trade value…
October 20th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Trade Shane Lechler!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
St. Jimmy, all we knew about Kiffin when he was here is that he was a coach trying to change the environment, and the controversy started immediately. You guys want Cable to do the same? What do you mean when you say you want CAble to call out players? That’s what Kiffin did. Kiffin hadn’t yet abandoned Tennessee yet.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Trade Asomugha for M. Vick. Luxury for a necessity.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
The only thing you could have hated Kiffin for when he was here was taking on Al. None of his other misgivings had happened yet. So why do you try to compile all of those things that happened after he left Oakland as a reason to criticize what he did in Oakland? What he did in Oakland was tried to coach the team. Period. He did NOTHING wrong here.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Kiffin wasn’t trying to change the “environment”. He was auditioning for another job. No matter how bad things get, we should never settle for a coach who doesn’t want to be a Raider.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Kiffin never tried to coach the team. He has no talent for it.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Raiderman99 the only Jason Campbell fan here is you, I’ll bet you also think if Michael Bush couldn’t start anywhere else……….probably Nnamdi too.
Dumbell.
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Preist, you’re obviously confusing me with someone else. Anyone familiar with my posts knows what I think of JaJason. (By the way, I’d like to take credit for coining the ‘JaJason’ name, I believe I was the first to use it).
I’m one of the only posters here that thinks Grads is the long term answer and a franchise QB. For that, you can ridicule me if you choose. In fact, I’d really appreciate it if you would, based on your track record of assessing QBs.
As far as Bush goes, I was ecstatic when the Raids drafted him with the first pick in the 4th rd. I think he’s a very good back. He definitely could start other places and excel. He’s a bruiser once he gets going downfield with surprising elusiveness for such a big man. Also has very good hands which the Raids have not utilized properly to date. Only thing I didn’t appreciate about Bush was his unwillingness to play full back when the Raids desperately needed him to do so. I can understand his reluctance to do so, but in my opinion he should have put the TEAM first in that instance. Besides that, I’m a big fan of his.
Concerning Nnamdi, I think he’s a terrific cover corner. Definitely one of the best, even if he hasn’t secured as many picks as we’d like to see. I think he has a future as a safety once he slows down, he’s a very good tackler, and wouldn’t be surprised to see him garner quite a few more interceptions if the move to safety actually happens.
So Preist, you’d lose your bet about what I think. And you also need to calm down and quit calling me a dumbell…unless you want me to call you a pompous douchebag in return. I don’t want to do that !
October 20th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
I’m getting lunch.
Al is a wannabe. Total fraud. Never built a team in his life. Wolf and Gruden built our winners.
Entire front office is nothing but DAvis enablers.
Coaching staff has their hands tied. Al purposely hires desperate coaches who need the money they would lose if they were to get terminated with cause. That’s why Cable can’t call anyone out or lay down the law.
Aside from Miller, Grads, and a few others, the Oakland Raiders players are women, period. They play like it, they act like it, a lot of them even look like it.
See you guys later!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
What do you mean when you say you want CAble to call out players?
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I didn’t say that dude. What are you talking about?
I am just saying you should use Gruden as an example of a good coach that clashed with Al’s stupid philosophies. Kiffin is a weasle. Jeff Fischer is highly respected in the NFL, and based on Kiffin’s spat with Jeff, how he left the Vols, and his Raider days, I am just saying he probably isn’t a very respected guy around the NFL or with alot of fans.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Kiffin wasn’t trying to change the “environment”. He was auditioning for another job. No matter how bad things get, we should never settle for a coach who doesn’t want to be a Raider.
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Bo Shrimp, you don’t know that. He just saw the writing on the wall, early.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
140. the nickname jajason is stupid. you get all the credit raiderman99
October 20th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
I don’t really have an opinion one way or another regarding Kiffin. I don’t recall any of the players really bashing him publicly after he left. But I know Cable was pissed he took coaches, the way he left the Vols wasn’t very good, and trying to take coaches from the Titans and pissing off Jeff Fischer (who is highly respected in the NFL) wasn’t very smart. His reputation isn’t very good around football, not just Raider fans. Thats all I am saying.
In regards to coaches vs. Al Davis debate, I am simply stating Jon Gruden is a better argument than Lane Kiffin, based on Lane Kiffin’s actions after he left the Raiders.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
99. who is danny southwick boschem
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Im voting Gruden/Vick ‘11
October 20th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Im voting Gruden/Vick ‘11
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That is commonly referred to as “a wet dream”
I would place that vote too bro….
October 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Players that have to go next year:
Jason Campbell
Chaz Schillens
Cooper Carlisle
Mario Henderson
Michael Huff
October 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
It better be Grads or Boller starting.
If not….expect another ugly game for the Raiders.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Im voting Gruden/Vick ‘11
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That is commonly referred to as “a wet dream”
I would place that vote too bro….
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Ya but we could of had Vick.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Kelly needs to be moved to his original tackle spot.
Wimbley needs to not be a OLB in a 4-3 ever.
And we need(ed) to draft OL & DL all rounds.
Gruden/Vick ‘11
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
149. chaz is our best receiver and mario henderson is better than veldheer for now deuce
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
The team can’t go forward until old looney man Al lets go of yes men and hires a REAL Head Coach like Gruden or Harbaugh.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
DeuceDeuce Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Players that have to go next year:
Jason Campbell
Chaz Schillens
Cooper Carlisle
Mario Henderson
Michael Huff
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Who the fck is Chaz Schillens? Is he on the practice squad? I don’t recall of seeing him play.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
“JaJason” is brilliant; kudos to the creative mind who came up with it.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
No pass rush.
No pass blocking.
In a passing league.
The Oakland Raiders.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
149. chaz is our best receiver and mario henderson is better than veldheer for now deuce
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Chaz “IR” Schillens has held up our plans offensively for 2 years now. I understand hes our best WR. But he cant get on the field.
And Henderson can stay as long as hes a backup. Veldheer should be our RT. We need a NFL caliber LT period.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Drexl Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# DKnight007 Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Norco,
Go drink some more and shoot up some more heroin while your at it.
Keep living in your loser land and keep avoiding the reality of your lousy life.
Crybaby drug addict! LOL
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The only ones in here crying are you RMR and KK. Nice crew you got there
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I see delusional drug addict and alcoholic fans who don’t know what it takes to win and what winning is all about.
They are happy with LOSING! LOL
Crybaby LOSERS!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Who the fck is Chaz Schillens? Is he on the practice squad? I don’t recall of seeing him play.
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Exactly.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Drug addicts and alcoholics who call themselves Raider fans who no NOTHING about football are whining crying LOSERS…who wash away their tears by being crack head addicts! LOL
October 20th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
99. who is danny southwick boschem
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I am a faith-based fan, and Danny is our Moses.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I think I can make Huff miss me in the open field. Stevie Brown please.
And Branch aka the biggest disapointment on D…regress much?
October 20th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
158. we wont notice chaz schilens hurt so much if dhb murphy and jlh step up there games deuce
October 20th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
That’s why those of you who said you want Singletary here crack me up. Singletary would read that little agreement that Al makes coaches sign, about the “Raider Way”, etc., actual legal language that binds coaches to Al’s philosophy, politely set it back on the table, stand up, kick his chair over, pull his pants down, and say, “This is what I think of you guys”, and then leave.
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Dude, we bump heads on things but that was some funny schiict. LMFAO!
October 20th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
162. is danny a football player boschem
October 20th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
158. we wont notice chaz schilens hurt so much if dhb murphy and jlh step up there games deuce
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Schilens is finished bro. Deal with it, accept it, get over it.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
chaz schitllens is the guy whos gonna start practicing week 10, catch a ball week 11, and catch about 30 balls for 345 yards and 3 t.ds, saving his asss again for the third straight year and securing a roster spot long enough to get hurt for 8 weeks next season, start practicing week 10, catch a ball week 11, and catch about 30 balls for 345 yards and 3 t.ds, saving his asss again and you get the picture.
October 20th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Danny was on our roster briefly as a QB in 2009, and continued as an “intern”. He played at my alma mater Occidental and is a Mormon.
http://www.raiders.com/Team/PlayerBio.aspx?id=63614
October 20th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
158. we wont notice chaz schilens hurt so much if dhb murphy and jlh step up there games deuce
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I aint holding my breath.
Louis Murphy and Nick Miller are the only WRs i have any faith in right now. And Nick doesnt see any burn.
JLH is useless in this offense. Ford is too raw. DHB cant catch. At least at this point in his career and i dont see it changing much.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Bruce Gradkowski (shoulder) did not participate in Raiders practice Wednesday.
Jason Campbell (knee) and Kyle Boller (ineffective) rotated snaps with the first-team offense. Gradkowski’s inability to participate signals that he is the least likely Raiders quarterback to play in Week 7. Campbell will have to stay healthy throughout the week, but appears to be the early favorite.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
Related: Kyle Boller, Jason Campbell
October 20th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Boller better start if Bruce cant play effectively.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Darren McFadden (hamstring) and Michael Bush alternated with the Raiders’ first-team offense in practice Wednesday.
The workout, however, was “not even half-speed,” so McFadden didn’t really test the hamstring by opening up and running. We’ll know more about his status on Thursday, but it’s a safe bet that he’ll be a game-time decision again. The Broncos can’t stop the run, so Bush will be a must-start RB2 if McFadden is out or “limited,” despite struggling against the 49ers in Week 6.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
Related: Michael Bush
October 20th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Skinny JaMarcus Russell better not play.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Boeller beats Broncos, you heard it hear first!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
171. thank u for the update hairyb
October 20th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
kareemabduljabbar Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
171. thank u for the update hairyb
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no prob
October 20th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
to consistently have blown coverages against an 0-5 team (and to lose to an 0-5 team) shows poor coaching/defensive schemes. and to not complete a pass in the 2nd and 3rd quarters shows the offense is equally screwed up. you can put $3,000 tires on a $800 vw bug, but at the end of the day all you have is an $800 bug.
they can get new players all year long but
there needs to be new coaching from top to bottom. nice as cable is, i do not see him leading the raiders to the super bowl. ever. and if they are not in it for the super bowl each year, then why are they in it?
favre was a bencher/nobody until he met that holmgren.. the raiders for too long have cobbled together leftovers for their coaching staff. and it shows.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
*Boller *Here
October 20th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Broncos game will be a lot like Charger game. Orton will rip up our pass defense, but the Raiders do enough in all 3 phases of the game to pull out victory and stay alive in AFC west.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
new post!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
thats the problem with this team, everything is half speed or slower from the start of camp to the season. thats why this team cant tackle, catch, run, block, or get in sync because there always walking through everything. dumbass coach. id be full speed till they learn, i know, i know, they get paid too much to risk it, but half our fn team is on the sideline with injuries anyway.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
HairyBush Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Bruce Gradkowski (shoulder) did not participate in Raiders practice Wednesday.
Jason Campbell (knee) and Kyle Boller (ineffective) rotated snaps with the first-team offense. Gradkowski’s inability to participate signals that he is the least likely Raiders quarterback to play in Week 7. Campbell will have to stay healthy throughout the week, but appears to be the early favorite.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
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The confidence the coaching staff have in Boller seems awfully low, if Jajason, slightly injured gets the start after last weeks debacle of a performance.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Just a shame that Schillens can’t get healthy.
Those of us who do remember seeing him play breifly during pre-season and the start of last year would have to say he was our best rcvr.
He would run routes well enough and got enough separation that even JaMoron knew to throw him the ball. And as off target as JaMoron’s throws often were, Schillens would adjust and showed very good hands in securing the catch. Supposedly, he has or had tremendous speed and might be able to stretch the field in addition to being a very good posession rcvr.
There’s little doubt if he can get on and stay on the field that he’s a player.
I don’t think it’s his knee that’s kept him off the field all this time this season. I think it’s still his foot. The type of foot injury he had lingers for a long, long time. In many cases it’s career ending.
Can he ever get back on the field and stay there ? I don’t know. At this point it doesn’t seem likely. He’s been injury prone since his college days.
But I will say this, he’s one guy that I wouldn’t want to release and see him finally get healthy and make it somewhere else.
October 20th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Somebody put a hit on Jason Campbell please, I cannot take another week of his blank stares. If he starts I’m not watching I’ll get it off the highlights.
Kyle Boller IMO just seems to be all we have in terms of a legit starter on this team as I see it. And that is purely a hope and a prayer. I know Grads can win games and play well in spurts but that aint good enough for me can one of these guy’s please stand up and give us some real hope.
My interest in Colt Brennan is purely based on his predraft projection I thpought he was a solid prospect midrounder. All based on his pure passing arm I thought he was as pure a passer as Sam Bradford but he played in a spread offense against weak opposition. However he throws a beautiful ball and has great touch. I think if he had a chance to sit in the same system for 2 years he could be as good as Tony Romo maybe not as strong an arm. I just like him.
The Rams really lucked out with Bradford man I think he’s the best QB that’s come out in maybe 5 years or more. That kid has true greatness better than Aikman as good as any I can think of they just were in the right spot at the right time and that kid was standing there. Pure luck!
October 20th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
26.LA to TheBay Says:
October 20th, 2010 at 11:12 am
The Raiders will play hard on Sunday. Don’t know that they’ll win, but they’ll play hard. Campbell will not be the starter.
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Well yippee skippidee doo. Gee whiz, as long as they try hard then what more can we ask for.
October 20th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Mcfadden almost won the Heisman two years in a row running the wild hog (wildcat)…run it all day, release all the qb’s, and pick up linemen, both o and d.
October 20th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Bring in the #2 gunslinger in the history of the NFL….Jeff George!