Defining Raiders moment still to come
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 28th, 2010 at 9:50 am in Oakland Raiders.
There’s some optimism in the Raiders locker room, as voiced by cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, that the Raiders may wind up looking back at the Denver game as the point where they turned around their season.
“It has the potential,” Asomugha said. “Anytime that you’re coming off a loss and you can put together a game like that, absolutely it has the potential to string into a number of victories going down the road and then you can point back to this game and say, ‘Oh, this was the game that we got over the hump.’ So, that’s our goal.”
A 59-14 win over Denver was a magnificent deviation from the norm, but can no way be extrapolated into the normal NFL season. It will probably be another decade until the Raiders put another 45-point margin on someone. It was in fact a decade since they last did it.
On Dec. 19, 1999, in their second season under Jon Gruden, the Raiders had a win even more impressive than Sunday’s win in Denver.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers came to town in first place in the NFC Central, with the NFL’s second-ranked defense and three potential Hall of Fame players in Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp and John Lynch.
They were 9-4 and would take eventual Super Bowl champ St. Louis to the wire in the NFC Championship game.
Final score: Raiders 45, Bucs 0.
Oakland rushed for 262 yards, with Tyrone Wheatley (19 carries, 111 yards) and Napoleon Kaufman (9 carries, 122 yards) both going over 100. Against the Oakland defense, the Bucs crossed the 50-yard line exactly twice _ and on one of those possessions punted from the Oakland 49-yard line.
The win evened the Raiders record even at 7-7 and on the periphery of the playoff chase.
What did this momentum get them? A 23-20 loss to the Chargers in San Diego the following week. The Raiders had 46 yards rushing and were shredded for 325 yards passing by Jim Harbaugh.
Every once in awhile a game gets out of control. It’s what happened against the Bucs, and it’s what happened against the Broncos. The Raiders were the better team that day, yes, but the losing teams weren’t nearly as bad as the score indicated. It was simply a quirk of two teams at one point in time having a completely opposite experience and in no way indicative of the usual week-in, week-out grind that is the NFL.
Actually, the Raiders defining moment came two weeks after the Tampa game, and the week following the Chargers debacle.
Trailing 17-0 to the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium, the Raiders came back and won 41-38 in overtime. The game knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs and was the springboard for a 12-4 season which brought Oakland a division title and a spot in the AFC championship game.
Unlike the Tampa game, the Chiefs game epitomized what it really takes to win in the NFL _ a willingness and even an eagerness to fight back from a deficit, to make plays in all three phases at crucial times, and to prevail on a day when the end result could have gone either way.
Turnarounds are made on those kinds of games, rather than the rare blowout which is actually more of a statistical fluke than a true indicator of a team’s strength.
With the Seattle Seahawks and Chiefs coming to town the next two weeks, the Raiders will have their chance to prove they can win an important game when every break isn’t going their way.
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October 28th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Primero
October 28th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Just Win, Baby!
October 28th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Jerry trying to butter up the semipros with a little nostalgia.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Hell of a good post, Jerry. I agree. The next two weeks are far more important than the Broncos blowout.
And if the Raiders do, in fact, win the next two, then the Steelers game becomes huge. Sure, maybe they can reel off 3 straight wins versus average teams, but what can they do against a legit Super Bowl contender? (Which the Steelers of last year were not)
October 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Jerry hiding behind the cloak of Haterism that is characteristic of his profession.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Also worth pointing out that the Kansas City game referred to saved Gruden’s job. I believe Davis himself has said that if they’d lost it, he would’ve fired Chucky.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:55 am
S&B PA
Remember, need to do that magical feat of putting two (2) wins together. Just two…
October 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Warriors got best uni’s in league but court should have more blue on it!
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That Boise St. blue would look horrible from the seats.
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LOL
October 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am
LA To TheBay Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Jerry hiding behind the cloak of Haterism that is characteristic of his profession.
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Exactly
October 28th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Boise St Blue is horrible on TV. I flip the channels when I see that ish…
October 28th, 2010 at 9:57 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:50 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Dont ever mention steve smith in the same breath as miller. He is more of poor mans dante hall, and I mean piss poor mans, dante hall.
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Because of the extensive scouting you’ve done of Nick Miller, right? Undrafted players can end up being pretty dang good.
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I didnt say he isnt a good player, however he has to prove it to be mentioned with someone like smith. I dont see a similarity in the skill set at all. i do see more of similarity to a guy like dante hall, a good kick returner ( although again hall has done it at this level miller hasnt done any thing yet) with decent hands, that can make guys miss when he has the ball in his hands.
Smith can catch in traffic and go across the middle, i dont know if miller has that kind of toughness or durability.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Haterism….what is that word? Looking in my dictionary? cant find it…
October 28th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Let me take a wild guess here…..
The people hating on Nick Miller are probably hardcore DHB, JLH, and Ford believers.
Sorry to bust your bubble but with the extensive playing time for those 3, what have they done. NADA.
JLH – Nick owned his a$$ in the PR role.
Ford and DHB – Nick already did more in 1 pass thrown his way then both of them combined this year (or 2 yrs for dhb). Has either of them caught anything over 30 yds?
My take is he will out play both of them again this weekend. Who wants to take a wager?
October 28th, 2010 at 9:58 am
That 99 KC game gruden got mad at players for putting willie shaw on their shoulders after the win
October 28th, 2010 at 9:58 am
That KC game was amazing. New Years day 2000. WHEATLEY WON’T GO DOWN!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I always likened Jacoby Ford to Santana Moss.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am
WTF does “poor man” dont you understand Mistic? If he was making probowls we wouldnt call him poor man would we?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
I was at that yucks game, wow that was alot of fun.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
AIG,
I for one agree with you.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Nick owned JLH in PR? TD?s….JLH still busted a longer one, but i been saying i didnt want JLH at PR….people get caught on to it after a few years in nfl
October 28th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Um sorry AIG you completely wrong….we seen JLH perform in the NFL and score TDs…..if you say otherwise then you are lying
October 28th, 2010 at 10:01 am
JLH had a good year couple years back.
let it go.
It’s history.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I also remember Gruden’s KC game. After the win Gruden ran on the field pumping fists all excited as if he’d won the SB. People criticized him for all the emotion in a game that meant nothing playoff wise. I remember thinking, this guy is awesome, we are going to be good.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
BTW, Steve Smith is not known for goign over the middle dummy. Steve Smith is known for his quickness to get off the line and beat you deep.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
AIG….nikki will get chances these next twp weeks but after the bye he goes right back to 6th WR….and you know it too
October 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Unfortunately I have never been excited about Tom Cable. I truly hope he gives me a reason to believe in him.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Bauce,
I was a JLH fan but he has not produced in over 2 years. He had a great finish to 2008 but has gone silent since. My take is my boy Nick Miller will out play all three of those guys this weekend.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:01 am
JLH had a good year couple years back.
let it go.
It’s history.
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Still proof he has produced in the league so sorry buddy……..Miller has done nada yet you let it go then
October 28th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Bauce,
I was a JLH fan but he has not produced in over 2 years. He had a great finish to 2008 but has gone silent since. My take is my boy Nick Miller will out play all three of those guys this weekend.
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That wont happen I guarantee that especially how they gonna force feed DHB and prolly Ford
October 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Still proof he has produced in the league so sorry buddy……..Miller has done nada yet you let it go then
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DMAC didnt do ish till this year either, right? And he is 23 yrs old, and so is Miller.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am
WTF does “poor man” dont you understand Mistic? If he was making probowls we wouldnt call him poor man would we?
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More nonsense from the usual suspects. he isnt a “poor mans” steve smith, they have completely different skill sets. Just because they are both fast, short, and can return punts doesnt make them nearly the same kind of player. Smith has some of the best hands in league, we dont know how good millers hands are. Smith is as tough as they come, we dont know how durable miller is. Smith can play wide or in the slot, can miller? Smith is one of the most polished rout runners in the nfl, miller cant even get on the field for offense.
Isnt it a little early to put your foot in your mouth? Your gonna ruin your breakfast.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Smith can catch in traffic and go across the middle, i dont know if miller has that kind of toughness or durability.
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Miller seems pretty tough. At least on punt returns the kid is fearless.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am
miller get a few shots….i have no issue with that….he gonna play some slot and such these next two games……ford and jlh will get more reps with DHB lol….playing the whole game
October 28th, 2010 at 10:10 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
BTW, Steve Smith is not known for goign over the middle dummy. Steve Smith is known for his quickness to get off the line and beat you deep.
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he doesnt get alot of credit for that part of his game, because we are so enamored with his ability to catch the deep ball. But in fact he has scored plenty of catch and run tds, on crossing patterns. he catches in the middle of the field and out runs everyone, have you even seen him play?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Does anybody remember who coached the chiefs when Gruden bumped them out of the playoffs? Marty or Herm?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Believe it or not, this is a team game, not a Nick Miller Game, a JLH Game, a DMC game……at team game. If we dont do this http://bit.ly/cEm0ep on Sunday, this TEAM will not win!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Mistic
Are you blind? We’re talking potential here you moron. Miller has shown more potential with his hands and circus catches in camp, preseason and so far in 1 game of the reg season with 1 pass thrown his way. Did you forget that he jumped over the DB’s back to catch your JaPuke’s underthrown 40 yarder? If you claim to be a hardcore Raider fan and ignore whatever flashes Nick has shown with the limited opportunities then you’re just a hater.
I know you’re scared that Miller is going to outplay your boy DHB.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Miller may turn out to be a steal, but he has to prove it. there must be a reason he went undrafted and is so low on the depth charts. the coaches would know better than us.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Bauce,
I will agree with you that AD will force feed DHB and Ford. However, I still think Nick Miller will end up making more plays with his limited opps then full opps DHB and Ford get.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Coach Tom Cable acknowledged that the Raiders are frustrated with the lengthy recovery time of Chaz Schilens (knee, foot).
Cable said Schilens is making some progress, “it’s just slow.” With Louis Murphy (bruised lung) out indefinitely, this would’ve been a golden opportunity for Schilens to take over as the Raiders’ starting flanker. He won’t be able to capitalize, as he’s still without a timetable to resume practicing.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
October 28th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Found it. Coached by ol Gunther Cunningham.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Gunther….
LMAO
October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
DHB is painful to watch anymore. Is there really a dunk tank for charity at the coliseum? If so, please sit DHB in there while the game is on. We need guys who can catch a ball.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Mistic
Are you blind? We’re talking potential here you moron. Miller has shown more potential with his hands and circus catches in camp, preseason and so far in 1 game of the reg season with 1 pass thrown his way. Did you forget that he jumped over the DB’s back to catch your JaPuke’s underthrown 40 yarder? If you claim to be a hardcore Raider fan and ignore whatever flashes Nick has shown with the limited opportunities then you’re just a hater.
I know you’re scared that Miller is going to outplay your boy DHB.
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You are making less sense with each post. he has shown he is the best punt returner on our team. He has made 1 catch in his career. Your take on preseason to me is also off target. Not that preseason is a very good barometer, but dhb made the best catch of the preseason on the sideline, not only stopping on a dead run to catch a severely under thrown ball by scabkowski, but out leaping the defender, and then doing a tap job on the boundary.
I never said miller shouldnt play or doesnt have potential, but he isnt better than DHB, ford, or murphy at this stage of the game.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Given the opportunity, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ford have a nice game. He will actually catch his targets and not let them bounce off his hip while screaming at the ref for PI.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:19 am
I never said miller shouldnt play or doesnt have potential, but he isnt better than DHB, ford, or murphy at this stage of the game.
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Wrong, there is no worse WR in the league than DHB. He is the equivalent of competence at his position as JaSizzurp was at his.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Yah. Having DHB play decoy all game is like having 10 guys on the field. But what are you gonna do? DMac took 3 years to develop. You know ol Al will be loyal to his top picks until they develop into players or develop an addiction to sizirup (no idea how to spell that)
October 28th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Danny Southwick is better than DHB.
How’s that for pennance Danny Southwicks mom?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Worse WR: Whitted or DHB?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:21 am
DHB “manos de piedra” is already taken by Roberto Duran. He’ll loan it to you.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Worse WR: Whitted or DHB?
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Oh DHB…keep trying…there are even worse than Whitted.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Bauce,
I will agree with you that AD will force feed DHB and Ford. However, I still think Nick Miller will end up making more plays with his limited opps then full opps DHB and Ford get.
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Make more plays than Ford? No way man…..JLH gonna prolly start and when JLH has started in his career he has played well
October 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Worse hands: Rickey Dudley or DHB?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am
A hungover Seabass >>> DHB
Condo >>> DHB
October 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Sanjay Lal and John Fassel >>> DHB
October 28th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Worse hands: Rickey Dudley or DHB?
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Good one. that would be a good deathmatch of scissorhands fight.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Bigger bust: Charlie Rogers or DHB?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
……..I never said miller shouldnt play or doesnt have potential, but he isnt better than DHB, ford, or murphy at this stage of the game.
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Let’s see here.
Ford has fumbled a return and bumbled a catch. Can you honestly tell us that you think Ford has locked down the KR job? In the same amount of games, Nick has locked down the PR job.
DHB has been a BUST. Do we really need to go there?
Right….you are so right.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Bigger bust: Charlie Rogers or DHB?
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Jamarcus Russell tops both of em. No one cares about #2.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Toss up man.
Charles Rogers could flat out play but was addicted to laziness and weed.
DHB is a hardworker but is not a natural WR.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Odd year drafts lately have sucked. 07 and 09 were garbage. 08 and 10 were sweet.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
How many drops does dhb have this year? murphy has more drops, but he gets a pass. Bottom line many people didnt want dhb, you think he was a terrible draft pick, no matter how much improvement he has shown this year, he will never be good enough for some of you.
I will take the davis approach and remain patient. he has gone from 1 catch every 3 games, with lots of drops, to 2-3 catches every game, with few drops. Ill take it. He will only get better with time. Dont forget he is still a kid, but he works hard and has some natural gifts. Two year from now we will see what kind of player he becomes.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
While we are on the comparison thing.
Better scat-back: Nap Kaufman or Charlie Gardner?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Toss up man.
Charles Rogers could flat out play but was addicted to laziness and weed.
DHB is a hardworker but is not a natural WR.
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well put.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Thing with Rickey Dudley is that he made the toughest catches…but dropped the easy ones…DHB catches the easy ones w/ his CHEST…and never the tough ones. So I’m going to say DHB has worse hands than Rickey Dudley. OUCH.
Speaking of Rickey Dudley…does anyone think Edgar Renteria on the Giants looks like Rickey Dudley or his brother or something?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Please compare DHB to people drafted in the first round: Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin (dammmm!)…Murphy earns league minimum and outplays DHB every friggin game!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
While we are on the comparison thing.
Better scat-back: Nap Kaufman or Charlie Gardner?
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Raider career **** I’d say Kaufman, but for a couple of years Garner was better. He had 1000/1000 type season.
Both were very very good.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Macho…..Nap! Screw 49ers
October 28th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Please compare DHB to people drafted in the first round: Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin (dammmm!)…Murphy earns league minimum and outplays DHB every friggin game!
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you left off the best one, uberstud Hakeem Nicks!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:31 am
as voiced by cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, that the Raiders may wind up looking back at the Denver game as the point where they turned around their season.
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Nnamdi needs to put a cork in it.
Just win baby!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Bauce,
It depends on who starts this weekend. If it is JC, dont expect the WR’s to get many balls thrown their way. However, I have never doubted JLH’s physical skills as a WR. He will prob get the most opps this weekend from our WR’s but I feel strongly that Nick Miller will come through on his limited opps.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Charles Rogers at least had some very good games his 1st season before going down with an injury. Can’t say the same about DHB.
I love Kaufman but he always seemed to get caught from behind on the long runs and would get stopped for losses a lot. Garner was the man, finished runs and was a great receiver that was a threat any time he touched the ball. Garner > Kaufman but have a lot of love for both.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Hey B,
Who are you rooting for to lose?
Donkeys or Whiners?
I still don’t know.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
“turned the corner” and “over the hump” and “mission accomplished”
They got just shut up and play.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
forgot hakeem was drafted on the 1st round…Dammit Al! if you’d just throw darts at the draft board we’d be in better shape!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:33 am
We stuck with DHB people….he aint good but we gotta deal with it
October 28th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I’d take Garner. I liked him from the first time I saw him destroyed the Niners as an Eagle. Garner could run and catch. He was much more complete than Nap. Nap fumbled more too.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:33 am
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Hey B,
Who are you rooting for to lose?
Donkeys or Whiners?
I still don’t know.
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Denver
October 28th, 2010 at 10:33 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Bauce,
It depends on who starts this weekend. If it is JC, dont expect the WR’s to get many balls thrown their way. However, I have never doubted JLH’s physical skills as a WR. He will prob get the most opps this weekend from our WR’s but I feel strongly that Nick Miller will come through on his limited opps.
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Jerry said that Ford would step into Murphs spot. If that is the case, I could see Ford having the opportunity for a big game, considering the stout run defense of Seattle.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:34 am
# DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Hey B,
Who are you rooting for to lose?
Donkeys or Whiners?
I still don’t know.
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It’s gotta be the whiners. Hopefully a whiner ass whipping gets McD fired.
“Swamp” package! LMAO!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Hell Aig….i would love for miller to make some plays….why wuld i be against that? not like DHB doing shht
October 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Remember Nap turning the corner on a sweep and turning on the jets? Dam, I mis Nap, nobody had his explosivenes, dare I say it, not even Bo?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am
err thats a whiner win
October 28th, 2010 at 10:36 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
……..I never said miller shouldnt play or doesnt have potential, but he isnt better than DHB, ford, or murphy at this stage of the game.
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Let’s see here.
Ford has fumbled a return and bumbled a catch. Can you honestly tell us that you think Ford has locked down the KR job? In the same amount of games, Nick has locked down the PR job.
DHB has been a BUST. Do we really need to go there?
Right….you are so right.
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I cant even begin to follow your stupor inducing rants. Yes ford has locked down the kr job to this point, he has done it for a few games, and has i believe at least 3 returns longer than 20 yards. Ford has never been a fumbler on returns through his career. If you watched him play in college, (which clearly you have not), you would know that. The muffed kick offs are an anomaly not the norm. Rookies often make those mistakes, he will be fine.
Way to early to write off a kid barley 21 years old, that is improving, after 1 1/2 seasons. most receivers dont come in and make a huge impact as young players. generally speaking it takes guys 2-3 years to learn how to play in the nfl. Football is not microwave popcorn. DHB’s book has not yet been written.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Nap was a playmaker though, he created his own space. Garner took advantage of the space he had, but he wasn’t the playmaker that Nap was.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I want dungver to win vs SF…..without a doubt
October 28th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Bauce, I agree and, dont get me wrong, I’ll take JLH in the WR slot any day over DHB.
Jimbo, one thing I will give Ford is that I thought he was physical in blocking last weekend.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I want dungver to win vs SF…..without a doubt
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Dont matter, when they play 6000 miles away, it’s a good day.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:38 am
I really don’t know.
FK the Donkeys
FK the Whiners
October 28th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Just hang onto the ball baby!
http://bit.ly/cEm0ep
October 28th, 2010 at 10:39 am
AIG,
Ford had a nice rebound game from that botched catch where the Niners intercepted and that was all his fault. He has good hands, and I would like to see what he has as much as Nick Miller.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
All time favorite Raider back. Van Eeghan! As a kid playing pop warner he was my inspiration, until they moved me to OG, fat kid that I was.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Nicks > Harvin > Maclin > Murphy > Crab > Mike Wallace > Ramseys Barton > DHB…another wasted 1st rounder…which makes me feel a lot better that the trade for Seymour wasn’t bad given he is a solid starter on the d-line and we would have drafted junk anyway. Good job Al!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
# raiderdeek Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Thing with Rickey Dudley is that he made the toughest catches…but dropped the easy ones…DHB catches the easy ones w/ his CHEST…and never the tough ones. So I’m going to say DHB has worse hands than Rickey Dudley. OUCH.
Speaking of Rickey Dudley…does anyone think Edgar Renteria on the Giants looks like Rickey Dudley or his brother or something?
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problem with ricky dudley was work ethic. I would see him at the club every single weekend, he didnt work hard enough, to improve. no comparison between him and DHB. Dudly had natural instincts but lacked professionalism. DHb is a blue collar work aholic that is working to improve his technique. he is not a natural when it comes to catching the ball. By the way there are planty of guys in the nfl that were not natural pass catchers that through hard work have become very good players. catching with their hands and their bodies.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said the hope is that both RCB Kelly Jennings (hamstring) and DT Brandon Mebane (calf) will be able to return to practice Thursday.
They’ll probably both be listed as questionable again for Week 8, but check back later this week. Mebane has missed the last two contests, while Jennings sat out this past week.
Source: Seattle Times
October 28th, 2010 at 10:41 am
What point is there to “showcasing” american football in Britain, if it’s 2 crappy teams?
I bet that really gets them interested in the NFL.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:42 am
raiderdeek Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Nicks > Harvin > Maclin > Murphy > Crab > Mike Wallace > Ramseys Barton > DHB…another wasted 1st rounder…which makes me feel a lot better that the trade for Seymour wasn’t bad given he is a solid starter on the d-line and we would have drafted junk anyway. Good job Al!
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I think that was Al thinking, F it!, I cant draft for ish. Why not get a proven DT for what a wasted pick is worth.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Drexl Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
All time favorite Raider back. Van Eeghan! As a kid playing pop warner he was my inspiration, until they moved me to OG, fat kid that I was.
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Old school! Yeah that’s what I’m talking about!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:44 am
DHB needs to have a good day this weekend for sure…..cant wait anymore….we have decent team that can compete in afc west…….i need now not 2011
October 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said the hope is that both RCB Kelly Jennings (hamstring) and DT Brandon Mebane (calf) will be able to return to practice Thursday.
They’ll probably both be listed as questionable again for Week 8, but check back later this week. Mebane has missed the last two contests, while Jennings sat out this past week.
Source: Seattle Times
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We need to attack Jennings. He’s nothing special. Put Ford on him, he can’t cope with that speed.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Good Post, Jerry
October 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Hey Mistic,
First, please stop requoting Tom Cable and pass it off as you watched Ford in college. Tom Cable was the one that said he didnt have a track record of fumbling in college. BUSTED!!! It’s so funny how you come on here telling us that you have followed the current Raiders since college. Wow, what a nice coincidence. What’s next you followed DHB in college as well?
Oh btw, our starting WR has the following stats for you catches in the games he played 1-6-1-3-1-0-3 for 161 yds. Since you said you follow these guys carefully, care to tell me who that receiver is? He wouldnt be on the roster of 31 other NFL teams except the Raiders.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
DHB needs to have a good day this weekend for sure…..cant wait anymore….we have decent team that can compete in afc west…….i need now not 2011
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What is a decent day for DHB?
12 targets/3 catches?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:46 am
DHB: 18 games 23 catches 1 TD
October 28th, 2010 at 10:47 am
jimbo…..i mean week 2 style would be nice
October 28th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Garner was a versatile threat to run and catch, with good wiggle and good speed. Nap was a one of kind explosive play maker. Garner was a very good player, however it is much easier to find that kind of player, than it is to find that rare game changer like nap. nap is a guy that could cash you out from anywhere on the field at any time, garner wasnt that type of player, but very good in his own right.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Never saw Van Eeghan. My earliest Raider RB memory is Marcus and his incredibly awesome superbowl…
October 28th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Best way to use DHB this weekend is………….
To have him go deep all day and hope he gets a P.I. call a few times.
That will work for me.
FIRST DOWN!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:47 am
jimbo…..i mean week 2 style would be nice
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agree, but remember he didnt do ish until Grads came in the 2nd half. What makes you think he does ish with Campbell?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:49 am
I would rate it highly likely that employees of their respective teams, under orders from ownership, will somehow manage to “misplace” the passports of both Singletary and McDaniels preventing their returns from London with their teams.
outlook: both teams need further buried, but hopes are for the Donks to find themselves in an ever-deepening hole by losing yet again.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Never saw Van Eeghan. My earliest Raider RB memory is Marcus and his incredibly awesome superbowl…
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You remember John Riggins? That was kinda like what Mark Van Eegan was like.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:50 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:40 am
problem with ricky dudley was work ethic. I would see him at the club every single weekend, he didnt work hard enough, to improve. no comparison between him and DHB. Dudly had natural instincts but lacked professionalism. DHb is a blue collar work aholic that is working to improve his technique. he is not a natural when it comes to catching the ball. By the way there are planty of guys in the nfl that were not natural pass catchers that through hard work have become very good players. catching with their hands and their bodies.
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I don’t doubt DHBs work ethic. Might be the best in the league actually. But the question was who has the better hands. If question was who has the better career, I’d probably say DHB given his potential to get better given his work ethic and his size/speed.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:50 am
I hear the sod in London is garbage. Maybe there will be a some ACL’s and turftoes come out of the game.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:51 am
problem with ricky dudley was work ethic. I would see him at the club every single weekend, he didnt work hard enough, to improve. no comparison between him and DHB. Dudly had natural instincts but lacked professionalism. DHb is a blue collar work aholic that is working to improve his technique. he is not a natural when it comes to catching the ball. By the way there are planty of guys in the nfl that were not natural pass catchers that through hard work have become very good players. catching with their hands and their bodies.
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T.O. comes to mind.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:52 am
DHB = Size + Speed + no natural instincts + work ethic = Bust.
None of the “talent” matters without instincts. That and his little hands.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:39 am
AIG,
Ford had a nice rebound game from that botched catch where the Niners intercepted and that was all his fault. He has good hands, and I would like to see what he has as much as Nick Miller.
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I agree 100%. The problem I have is we have bloggers rely on draft position more than what they see on the field of play. For example, Ford but he has not impressed me with anything yet. No good plays to remember for other than a fumble and a bumble. When I see him returning KO I get nervous and I dont think I am in the minority. For the sake of the Raiders, I hope he does something good this weekend.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Like you say, lets take the training wheels off and see if they can ride.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:56 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Hey Mistic,
First, please stop requoting Tom Cable and pass it off as you watched Ford in college. Tom Cable was the one that said he didnt have a track record of fumbling in college. BUSTED!!! It’s so funny how you come on here telling us that you have followed the current Raiders since college. Wow, what a nice coincidence. What’s next you followed DHB in college as well?
Oh btw, our starting WR has the following stats for you catches in the games he played 1-6-1-3-1-0-3 for 161 yds. Since you said you follow these guys carefully, care to tell me who that receiver is? He wouldnt be on the roster of 31 other NFL teams except the Raiders.
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Is this a joke? Unlike you i dont pretend. I watched more than a few clemson games, becuase of the super explosive trio they had with spiller, james davis, and ford. i never saw ford put the ball on the ground. You didnt watch him in college, but who cares.
yes i love college football, I love to follow the guys, and see who becomes a star at the next level, and who washes out. You dont, but then again i am an actual football fan, your just a person that wants people to believe that you are informed. you may have a drone thinking personality, i have my own opinion based on what i see with my own eyes.
i saw very little DHb in college, i wasnt interested in maryland football, and they didnt have a solid qb, or a big time passing offense. my opinion on DHB is based squarely on what i have seen of him at the pro level. However if you must know the one game i did see DHb play in college, he scored on a long catch and run crossing pattern.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I’m worried about Hawks ability to stop the run and their speed on defense. Makes me worried that JC has to step up. I don’t think Hawks have given up more than 100 yds rushing….wondering though if this is because they are that good stopping the run or because their special teams and early forced TOs are giving them the early lead and forcing teams to pass all game to catch up. (ie. Niners, Chargers games). Sounds to me like O-line pass protection and JC really need to step up…which worries me.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Danny Southwick is better than DHB.
How’s that for pennance Danny Southwicks mom?
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Sorry, was at lunch. For future reference: Do not sleep on the wintern.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Raiderdeek
The Hawks are good against the run, but 29th against the pass.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
The funny thing is that I remember DHB scoring a TD against my Cal Bears a few years ago at Maryland.
Little FKer!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Mistic, look, we all want DHB to succeed he plays for our team, but the frustration is the flawed logic in taking a hard worker without natural skills in the first round. You take these high draft picks to produce immediately. If DHB were a 3rd or 4th round pickup like Bruce Campbell, there wouldn’t be many complaints about him not being polished. The issue is we needed an instant threat, and passed on Crabtree, Maclin, Britt, Nicks, and Harvin for the biggest project of all those wr’s.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:59 am
RaiderDebo Says:
T.O. comes to mind
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he reminds me a lot of roy williams, only faster and less baggage.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:01 am
KoolKell Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Raiderdeek
The Hawks are good against the run, but 29th against the pass.
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But aren’t we like 29th in passing offense (my guess)? haha. And also, given that niners and chargers were playing catchup during those games and Broncos offense is all passing, maybe the Hawks 29th passing defense isn’t really as bad as their stats indicate. I don’t know for sure either way, but just bringing that point up as well.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
So Mistic,
How many Clemson games did you watch in 2009 that made you an expert on Ford and his fumbling ability? I know what Tom Cable said and you basically repeated what he said verbatim.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I think the Hawks high ranking against the run reflects weakness against the pass. Other teams choose the easier path of resistance.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:05 am
raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Mistic, look, we all want DHB to succeed he plays for our team, but the frustration is the flawed logic in taking a hard worker without natural skills in the first round. You take these high draft picks to produce immediately. If DHB were a 3rd or 4th round pickup like Bruce Campbell, there wouldn’t be many complaints about him not being polished. The issue is we needed an instant threat, and passed on Crabtree, Maclin, Britt, Nicks, and Harvin for the biggest project of all those wr’s.
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I really hate “project” picks because that’s what the warriors do 50% of the time in the 1st round and the project gets scrapped within 1.5 years.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:05 am
# raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Mistic, look, we all want DHB to succeed he plays for our team, but the frustration is the flawed logic in taking a hard worker without natural skills in the first round. You take these high draft picks to produce immediately. If DHB were a 3rd or 4th round pickup like Bruce Campbell, there wouldn’t be many complaints about him not being polished. The issue is we needed an instant threat, and passed on Crabtree, Maclin, Britt, Nicks, and Harvin for the biggest project of all those wr’s.
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yes and no. maclin and harvin didnt have the size we needed at that time. Britt had off the field baggage. Crabs didnt have the speed we needed, and was also a head case. Nicks also had some trouble off the field and with attitude.
We needed at the time a big fast guy, but didnt want any baggage, after dealing with likes of porter and moss. I can understand why the pick was made. Also consider that ther were a couple of other teams that had DHB high on their board there was no guarantee he would have been around later int the draft. The draft is roll of the dice.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
HOW BOUT THEM WARRIORS
October 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
RaiderDeek
Sounds like the SeaHawks special teams has been the biggest factor in their 4-2 record. Remember that Brian Schneider guy?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Someone explain to me how a Raider fan could be hoping Denver wins vs. SF.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
How many drops does dhb have this year? murphy has more drops, but he gets a pass. Bottom line many people didnt want dhb, you think he was a terrible draft pick, no matter how much improvement he has shown this year, he will never be good enough for some of you.
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Stupid comment. every bit of it. yeah, murphy has more drops, because he’s had a lot more balls. % of balls thrown/caught? Bey is very likely dead last in the league for starters.
And the “no matter how much improvement he has shown”? he sucks. there is no improvement. what you are talking about is preseason hype, where many said he was now a stud.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Schneider was the by far best coach on the team in 07
October 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
raiderdeek Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:05 am
raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Mistic, look, we all want DHB to succeed he plays for our team, but the frustration is the flawed logic in taking a hard worker without natural skills in the first round. You take these high draft picks to produce immediately. If DHB were a 3rd or 4th round pickup like Bruce Campbell, there wouldn’t be many complaints about him not being polished. The issue is we needed an instant threat, and passed on Crabtree, Maclin, Britt, Nicks, and Harvin for the biggest project of all those wr’s.
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In other words, we blew it. big time.
we know.
everyone knows.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
So Mistic,
How many Clemson games did you watch in 2009 that made you an expert on Ford and his fumbling ability? I know what Tom Cable said and you basically repeated what he said verbatim.
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So your upset because I agree with cable on fords kick off ability? Ford was just as explosive as spiller, on returns and was lots of fun to watch. Dont be upset with me because you dont follow the sport the same way i do. You rely on posters on this blog to inform you, i have my own opinions based on what i watch. i never claimed to be any expert, just a fan that watches college games.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Maclin would of been the perfect Al pick.
Fast = Check
Good hands = Check
Vertical threat = Check
Has size = Check
Produced in college = Check
The only thing I can think of why Al didn’t go w/ Maclin, was because he played in a spread offense.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Mistic, that’s the frustration I have with that logic, size speed. Production and natural skills matter more than measurables. DHB was taken because he measured well and had a good work ethic. Sure the first round is a roll of the dice, but you take the best player at the position who produces… Diva or not, we’d be further along as a passing offense with Crabtree in the first and Murphy in the fourth than where we stand now. Taking DHB because he runs a 4.3 and Crabtree runs a 4.45 but knows how to get open and is a natural at snatching the ball is a poor way to look at it. But like I say, I’m rooting for DHB. He’s ours, the others aren’t, and it is what it is. Am I still bothered by the approach taken that draft? yes but there’s nothing we can change about it.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Is it too early to start the cam newton campaign for the silver and black? this dude maybe one of the greatest college qb’s I have ever seen. he is the ultimate weapon.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:13 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Someone explain to me how a Raider fan could be hoping Denver wins vs. SF.
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I hate the Whiners and took a lot of schit when they beat us. The only thing I can say is…
Look at the record
October 28th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Someone explain to me how a Raider fan could be hoping Denver wins vs. SF.
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i was wondering the same thing. Do we care THAT much if the niners get an extra win to add a W in the standings of the weakest division and which they are going to lose anyway. Not like we are threatened by the chance that we meet them in the Super Bowl this year. odds of that happening are probably 1,000000000000000000000000000 to 1. Denver however, I hate seeing anyone on the Broncos smile, especially Tom Jackson. So this week we should be rooting for the niners in a final score of 3-2.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Its still a tough one though.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
kell is here lol…time to laugh
October 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Really Cam Newton???? How bout no more SEC QB’s
October 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
one hour left, everyone, to get to the box office.
only 21,392 tickets to go for a sell out.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Do you guys live in the Bay?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
49ers v Broncos in England.
Think I’ll round up a couple of homies and invade.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:16 am
East Bay …..
October 28th, 2010 at 11:16 am
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Do you guys live in the Bay?
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All my life… grew up in east oakland..in san leandro now.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:17 am
If you live in the Bay. You would know what I’m talking about. Raider fans hate Whiner fans. Whiner fans hate Raiders fans. Its like their our division rivals also.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Then again, where would we put all the prisoners?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:17 am
raiderdeek Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Someone explain to me how a Raider fan could be hoping Denver wins vs. SF.
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i was wondering the same thing. Do we care THAT much if the niners get an extra win to add a W in the standings of the weakest division and which they are going to lose anyway. Not like we are threatened by the chance that we meet them in the Super Bowl this year. odds of that happening are probably 1,000000000000000000000000000 to 1. Denver however, I hate seeing anyone on the Broncos smile, especially Tom Jackson. So this week we should be rooting for the niners in a final score of 3-2.
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WITH COPIUS INJURIES!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# ArchiveTony Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
one hour left, everyone, to get to the box office.
only 21,392 tickets to go for a sell out.
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Got my ticket already.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# ArchiveTony Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
How many drops does dhb have this year? murphy has more drops, but he gets a pass. Bottom line many people didnt want dhb, you think he was a terrible draft pick, no matter how much improvement he has shown this year, he will never be good enough for some of you.
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Stupid comment. every bit of it. yeah, murphy has more drops, because he’s had a lot more balls. % of balls thrown/caught? Bey is very likely dead last in the league for starters.
And the “no matter how much improvement he has shown”? he sucks. there is no improvement. what you are talking about is preseason hype, where many said he was now a stud.
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Im sorry but my comment is based on what i have seen from him on the field while watching the games. i dont buy into what sports writters, bloggers, or sports talk shows opinions. I see the improvement. He doesnt drop the ball as often as he did last year. he has made a couple of difficult catches, he has made a couple of clutch fourth quarter catches and this to me is improvement. These are things he did not do last year.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
DHB makes only the easiest of catches when he does manage to catch a ball. He has to have his face to the QB and feet planted to make the catch. He hasn’t made one catch with his back to the QB. Not one. He isn’t in my opinion even capable of doing it.
He can’t run side by side with a corner, and use his elite size and speed to outreach even the little CB’s.
Bottom line: He SUCKS rocks.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
There is pure hatred for all things Niner in my heart but the same thing goes for Denver… I say they just leave both teams in London
October 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
RaiderDeek
Sounds like the SeaHawks special teams has been the biggest factor in their 4-2 record. Remember that Brian Schneider guy?
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Yeah we need to make sure Washington doesn’t get big returns like he did against the bolts. that would put us in a major hole and would prevent us from feeding McF. 2 things I want to see on Sunday…1) A W for the raiders obviously…And 2) I want to see McFadden literally run over Pete Carroll on the sideline.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
face it, we’re stuck with Bey.
just like we were stuck with Russell. only difference is Russells failures affected the whole offense immediately.
Beys just makes the offense that much less effective, so he gets lost in the shuffle
October 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:17 am
If you live in the Bay. You would know what I’m talking about. Raider fans hate Whiner fans. Whiner fans hate Raiders fans. Its like their our division rivals also.
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I dont hate anyones fans, even the Donks fans. I used to live in Denver and I got along with Donk fans even with my Raiders Jersey.
I hate the Niners and hate the Donks. Just no hate for the fans.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:20 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
There is pure hatred for all things Niner in my heart but the same thing goes for Denver… I say they just leave both teams in London
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I agree.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:20 am
The whiners suck so terribly this year, who cares if they win one? It might fool em into keeping Dingletary another few seasons.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Strictly town biz!!!!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:20 am
I want the whiners to win the game against denver, but not the same way we did. Maybe by a FG in ot.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:20 am
ArchiveTony Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
face it, we’re stuck with Bey.
just like we were stuck with Russell. only difference is Russells failures affected the whole offense immediately.
Beys just makes the offense that much less effective, so he gets lost in the shuffle
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We need to put DHB on the practice squad and change him to a dime safety. Use that 4.3 speed for something useful.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Im not a fan Bo….so i cant relate
October 28th, 2010 at 11:22 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Really Cam Newton???? How bout no more SEC QB’s
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Cam is a good qb, and has shredded some very good defenses in the sec. the sec has some of the best defenses in the country, and is widley considered the best conference in the college football.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I was on a plane from Houston to SFO, connecting from Tampa last week, and there was Niner fans with the little sweater tied around the back with the thin mustaches and they were totally homos…
No surprise.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
So your upset because I agree with cable on fords kick off ability? Ford was just as explosive as spiller, on returns and was lots of fun to watch….
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could you please find for me 1 shred of evidence he was explosive in Kick Off returns last year at Clemson. I did find the following stats though.
2008 21 punt returns for 62 yards (2.95 per return), and 17 kick returns for 313 yards (18 yds per return)….I dunno but that doesnt sound explosive to me.
2009, if I am not mistaken CJ Spiller did the majority of returns for Clemson.
So yeah, where were those “explosive as Spiller on Returns” that you saw at Clemson?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
# Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:19 am
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:17 am
If you live in the Bay. You would know what I’m talking about. Raider fans hate Whiner fans. Whiner fans hate Raiders fans. Its like their our division rivals also.
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I dont hate anyones fans, even the Donks fans. I used to live in Denver and I got along with Donk fans even with my Raiders Jersey.
I hate the Niners and hate the Donks. Just no hate for the fans.
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That isn’t the case w/ me. I’ve taken a lot of heat from Whiners fans through out the years. I don’t take it to the extreme w/ fights, but don’t like that team and their fans.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# ArchiveTony Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:14 am
one hour left, everyone, to get to the box office.
only 21,392 tickets to go for a sell out.
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Got my ticket already.
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Is that a real number? If so, that’s actually not that bad….that might put attendance around 50-55k by kickoff? 12th man is playing on Sunday.
Which will be greater….false starts + offsides by L Walker and T Kelly or Seahawks as a team? Still amazes me how often Kelly jumps offsides when the ball is in front of his face.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Rich Gannon-Invade?
Braveheartraider-Yes, invade.
Gannon- you can’t invade England.
Braveheartraider-Why? We won at home to the Chargers. We won at Denver and still you would not support us. If you dont help us now then you are a coward. And if you call tourself a Raider then I’m ashamed to call myself one.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Didnt Russell Play In The SEC and Didnt Campbell Play In The SEC…. Newton looks great but drafting another QB is scary let alone drafting 1 from the SEC
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Im not a fan Bo….so i cant relate
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Aficionado?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
So your upset because I agree with cable on fords kick off ability? Ford was just as explosive as spiller, on returns and was lots of fun to watch….
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could you please find for me 1 shred of evidence he was explosive in Kick Off returns last year at Clemson. I did find the following stats though.
2008 21 punt returns for 62 yards (2.95 per return), and 17 kick returns for 313 yards (18 yds per return)….I dunno but that doesnt sound explosive to me.
2009, if I am not mistaken CJ Spiller did the majority of returns for Clemson.
So yeah, where were those “explosive as Spiller on Returns” that you saw at Clemson?
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I live in SEC country, and I can tell you I did see some Clemson games where Ford was electric as a tandem with Spiller.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
OK, Murphy is out. JLH is missing in action, Ford may have a break out game but still green. This has to be a big game for DHB if our BEST WR!!!! Zach Miller is double teamed.
It is time for DHB to step up and for JC to get him the ball.
I think this will be a break out game for DHB. He saw what happened last week and he did not make a contribution being sick. Look for him to break out and have 100 yard day. My bold prediction.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
OK, Murphy is out. JLH is missing in action, Ford may have a break out game but still green. This has to be a big game for DHB if our BEST WR!!!! Zach Miller is double teamed.
It is time for DHB to step up and for JC to get him the ball.
I think this will be a break out game for DHB. He saw what happened last week and he did not make a contribution being sick. Look for him to break out and have 100 yard day. My bold prediction
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You are beating a dead horse.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
# mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
# ArchiveTony Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:08 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:28 am
How many drops does dhb have this year? murphy has more drops, but he gets a pass. Bottom line many people didnt want dhb, you think he was a terrible draft pick, no matter how much improvement he has shown this year, he will never be good enough for some of you.
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Stupid comment. every bit of it. yeah, murphy has more drops, because he’s had a lot more balls. % of balls thrown/caught? Bey is very likely dead last in the league for starters.
And the “no matter how much improvement he has shown”? he sucks. there is no improvement. what you are talking about is preseason hype, where many said he was now a stud.
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Im sorry but my comment is based on what i have seen from him on the field while watching the games. i dont buy into what sports writters, bloggers, or sports talk shows opinions. I see the improvement. He doesnt drop the ball as often as he did last year. he has made a couple of difficult catches, he has made a couple of clutch fourth quarter catches and this to me is improvement. These are things he did not do last year.
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Dang, talk about a reach?
Yeah, we see the games too. Guess you just assumed everyone here just showed up, here, for info. Bad news for you is sports writers? bloggers? talk show hosts? they also see the games.
Look at your list of what you consider as impressive to you. that he caught a couple of 4th quarter balls. that he made a couple of difficult catches. HIS SOLE JOB IS TO CATCH BALLS, LOTS of balls, and you act like it’s a miracle if he just does the minimum, or sub minimum? that’s like saying a horrible tackle, who gets beat all game, impresses you because he made a few blocks, or that a qb made 6 completions, while missing 30.
Bey is fast, that’s all. bad hands. runs bad routes, and can’t get separation that you would expect from a fast guy.
oh, and I did actually witness all of the above, like everyone else.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Bauce is a Raider
October 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
tj is the OG, so Brien are you the NG?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:28 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I think this will be a break out game for DHB. He saw what happened last week and he did not make a contribution being sick. Look for him to break out and have 100 yard day. My bold prediction
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I boldly predict you will be saying ‘oops, blew that one’ on Monday
October 28th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Yall ok with being “stuck with DHB”?
Cmon people, lets think this though….
There has to be a solution.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Like I said, I like my chances w/ DHB going deep all game long and getting a few P.I. calls deep in the red zone and setting up DMAC TD run.
Holla!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:29 am
I’d like to think Ford could be the 100 yard guy on Sunday. But DHB? Only if you want to target him 18 times.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Here you go Jimbo I heard the same thing when we drafted him. They said he took a limited role on Special teams because they were pumping up CJ Spiller. There were a number of scouts who thought he was just as electric.
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Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
So your upset because I agree with cable on fords kick off ability? Ford was just as explosive as spiller, on returns and was lots of fun to watch….
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could you please find for me 1 shred of evidence he was explosive in Kick Off returns last year at Clemson. I did find the following stats though.
2008 21 punt returns for 62 yards (2.95 per return), and 17 kick returns for 313 yards (18 yds per return)….I dunno but that doesnt sound explosive to me.
2009, if I am not mistaken CJ Spiller did the majority of returns for Clemson.
So yeah, where were those “explosive as Spiller on Returns” that you saw at Clemson?
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I live in SEC country, and I can tell you I did see some Clemson games where Ford was electric as a tandem with Spiller.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am
So how does a “Raider” hope the Broncos beat SF? Does this “Raider” care more about town squablin than his team making the playoffs?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
tj is the OG, so Brien are you the NG?
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I’m the young Lion
October 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Here you go Jimbo I heard the same thing when we drafted him. They said he took a limited role on Special teams because they were pumping up CJ Spiller. There were a number of scouts who thought he was just as electric.
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True, I saw it firsthand.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Jimbo,
According to Clemson.com, his best return game in 2009 was against….drumroll please….Middle Tenn…..Who? 1 PR for TD all year because Spiller was the man there. But I have no beef with you bro. I just wanted Mistic to prove to me where he saw Ford was an explosive returner as Spiller. He was BS and got busted!
Archive Tony,
thank you for pointing out the obvious.
For the rest of the bloggs, gotta run. Have a fine Raider day.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
LOL!!!
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ArchiveTony Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:28 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I think this will be a break out game for DHB. He saw what happened last week and he did not make a contribution being sick. Look for him to break out and have 100 yard day. My bold prediction
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I boldly predict you will be saying ‘oops, blew that one’ on Monday
October 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Bo…..49ers are the devil….broncos are harmless and aint even a threat to us
October 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
# aig-raiders Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
So your upset because I agree with cable on fords kick off ability? Ford was just as explosive as spiller, on returns and was lots of fun to watch….
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could you please find for me 1 shred of evidence he was explosive in Kick Off returns last year at Clemson. I did find the following stats though.
2008 21 punt returns for 62 yards (2.95 per return), and 17 kick returns for 313 yards (18 yds per return)….I dunno but that doesnt sound explosive to me.
2009, if I am not mistaken CJ Spiller did the majority of returns for Clemson.
So yeah, where were those “explosive as Spiller on Returns” that you saw at Clemson?
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Spiller and ford where both back deep on kick offs, and spiller was the primary. Ford also got touches on kick offs as teams tried to avoid spiller. they were both very explosive when they had the ball, as both were a threat to go all the way at any time.
Again based on what i actually watched ford was a step away from breaking it on several of those kick returns. this is where you spending your time trying to dig up stats to counter my claims, doesnt paint an accurate picture. Nor does it give you that solid facade of football knowledge you so desperately crave. Watch some football for your self, then you might know what your talking about, but i doubt it.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:32 am
So Braveheartraider and Bauce 4 real invade England to crush the Broncos and the niners.
Braveheartraider-Bauce, on my signal ride around the back and flank them.
Gannon-we must not divide our forces!
Braveheartraider-Do it. And let the English see you do it.
Bauce-They’ll think we’ve ran away!
Braveheartraider-Exactly. Take out their archers and meet me in the middle.
(Cue music to Autumn wind)
October 28th, 2010 at 11:32 am
49er fans with lisp: Yay 4 the crimson and butterscotch!!
Raider fans: Silver & Black, deal with dat, biotchh!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:33 am
I think DHB is a late bloomer man. I really thing once this guy gets his game down he is going to be the man.
He kinds of reminds me of a number of the Saints WRs. Tall fast strong on the jump ball elusive after the catch. But they all had to grow into their positions outside of Colston. The difrence with DHB is we took him so high in the draft.
But it would be nice to have Kenny Britt right now. That man is on fire!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:34 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:33 am
I think DHB is a late bloomer man. I really thing once this guy gets his game down he is going to be the man.
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Late bloomer like Ricky Dudley!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Braveheart lololololol
October 28th, 2010 at 11:37 am
CJ37 practice today?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
ArchiveTony Says:
Dang, talk about a reach?
Yeah, we see the games too. Guess you just assumed everyone here just showed up, here, for info. Bad news for you is sports writers? bloggers? talk show hosts? they also see the games.
Look at your list of what you consider as impressive to you. that he caught a couple of 4th quarter balls. that he made a couple of difficult catches. HIS SOLE JOB IS TO CATCH BALLS, LOTS of balls, and you act like it’s a miracle if he just does the minimum, or sub minimum? that’s like saying a horrible tackle, who gets beat all game, impresses you because he made a few blocks, or that a qb made 6 completions, while missing 30.
Bey is fast, that’s all. bad hands. runs bad routes, and can’t get separation that you would expect from a fast guy.
oh, and I did actually witness all of the above, like everyone else.
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Nope you missed the boat. My point was that he is improving. he is better than last year, and more than likely continue to improve. Too soon to pull the plug. he wasnt able to make those play last year, this is the definition of growth.
you said i was buying preseason hype, you are wrong. My opinion is a direct result from what i see when i watch, not bloggers, writers or anything else.
Your opinion is noted and time will tell. i think he will continue to grow into a very good player in time.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
LoL..stone hands Dudley
October 28th, 2010 at 11:40 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
OK, Murphy is out. JLH is missing in action, Ford may have a break out game but still green. This has to be a big game for DHB if our BEST WR!!!! Zach Miller is double teamed.
It is time for DHB to step up and for JC to get him the ball.
I think this will be a break out game for DHB. He saw what happened last week and he did not make a contribution being sick. Look for him to break out and have 100 yard day. My bold prediction.
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if grad was our QB, I would feel good about DHB’s chances. That’s because he’s the only QB that will feed the ball to the WR’s. For some reason Jason doesn’t look for the WR’s.
If you notice, our wr have to be wide open to get a pass, but all other team just need a small window. The good QB throw the wr open by throwing it to the spot. I think our coaching in this area is terrible.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
If you notice, our wr have to be wide open to get a pass, but all other team just need a small window. The good QB throw the wr open by throwing it to the spot. I think our coaching in this area is terrible.
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thanks Sanjay Lal!!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am
I’m the young Lion
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You spelled it wrong. If you’re in sales its Lyin.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Toyz Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
LoL..stone hands Dudley
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Manos de piedra Bey
October 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bo lololol i tell the truth man…i dont shht people
October 28th, 2010 at 11:42 am
jimbo dont u mean mierda? lol
October 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Cam Newton is a RB playing the QB position.Pass,lets get a real QB if we aren’t going to ride with who we already have.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:42 am
jimbo dont u mean mierda? lol
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Cable: cabeza de mierda
October 28th, 2010 at 11:44 am
lol jimbo
October 28th, 2010 at 11:44 am
sup lefty
October 28th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bo lololol i tell the truth man
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Fat chance you make quote then bro
October 28th, 2010 at 11:45 am
quota
October 28th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Hey,B.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Whatever Bey ate that made him sick last game, feed him more of the same or bring in sick kindergartners and have them all cough on him.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Bo lololol i tell the truth man
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Fat chance you make quote then bro
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gotta have mouthpiece mayne
October 28th, 2010 at 11:47 am
lefty you to the game sunday?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:47 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Didnt Russell Play In The SEC and Didnt Campbell Play In The SEC…. Newton looks great but drafting another QB is scary let alone drafting 1 from the SEC
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campbell has been a decent qb through his five year career. he led auburn to an undefeated season, he has been under center in two huge wins for us.
jamarcus is a different case all together. Talented kid with some severe issues with work ethic dedication and drugs.
i dont think you can dismiss all qbs from one conference based on these two guys.
there are some really good qbs that have come out of that confernce, like peyton & eli manning for example.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Heard a new song on the radio, about getting drunk on sizzurp. Can’t get JaMarcus wasted face out of my head when I hear that song.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:49 am
B,I’m still laid up from the accident I had in Sept.To be honest,it doesn’t look good for any games this year,although maybe in Dec.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:51 am
damn leftster sorry to hear that
October 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Seperation is not alway on the wide reciever. We should have plays that will cause seperation in the coverage . We drafted this guy #7th overall and you don’t run a go route with him. How many times have you seem other WR run a go route right off the line? You don’t have to be a good route runner for that. Anyone remember James Jett???? Horrible WR, but he always got his passess down field. Why don’t we take our shots with DHB?
October 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
McRaider….interesting
October 28th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I feel ya Mistic but it still scares me…There’s no qb in the SEC that really impresses me…Newton is good in college but how is that going to relate to the nfl… Im kinda scared of us drafting a qb unless its like the 5th round
October 28th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Sons of Rader Nation. I am Braveheartraider, and I see a whole army of my nation here in defiance of tyranny You are free men, and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?
Rich Gannon-NO. We will run and get a high draft picks.
Brave-Aye, run and you’ll get a high draft picks. And many years from now, when you’re lying in your beds. Would you be willing to get one chance, one chance to come back here and tell our foes that you may take our draft picks, but you’ll never take our history!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:54 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Didnt Russell Play In The SEC and Didnt Campbell Play In The SEC…. Newton looks great but drafting another QB is scary let alone drafting 1 from the SEC
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There have been a few guys that changed college football with the way they played. cam newton is on par with some of the best i have seen.
Tommy frazier, was an option qb, as a runner he was a steam roller. newton is bigger faster and stronger, and light years ahead passing the ball.
Mike vick, was a dazzling play maker with his feet, quick as a hiccup, with a rocket arm. he didnt have ideal size and his accuracy was questioned( although a little unfairly)he lacked the touch pass. newton is just as quick, and much bigger, his arm is just as strong and he has the touch and accuracy you need in the nfl.
Vince young was a man amongst boys,trowing and running. biggest knock was reading the defense and his throwing motion. cam doesnt come with those concerns, and is every bit the runner, and a much better passer.
Cam newton may revolutionize the qb position, as he has a blend of tools never before seen at the pro level.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:54 am
On the raider niner issue, yeah living in the bay, I hate niner fans too, but I always take the football approach. I hate the niners and relish watching them lose, unless they’re playing a division opponent. Having a team I hate beat a team I hate is a glass half full type of thing, so I’d rather the division team lose everytime.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:56 am
You know how it goes-sh!t happens.At least I’m still kickin’.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:57 am
McRaider5150 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Seperation is not alway on the wide reciever. We should have plays that will cause seperation in the coverage . We drafted this guy #7th overall and you don’t run a go route with him. How many times have you seem other WR run a go route right off the line? You don’t have to be a good route runner for that. Anyone remember James Jett???? Horrible WR, but he always got his passess down field. Why don’t we take our shots with DHB?
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He runs sloppy routes at times, and it’s going to catch up on him that he’s always pointing to the ref after every drop. It’s like a whiny kid that keeps pestering his momma. After a while they tune em out!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:58 am
lefty12 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:56 am
You know how it goes-sh!t happens.At least I’m still kickin’.
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alright…keep your head up!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Thoughts on Darron Thomas (Oregon)?
Looks fkin good.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Raiders have a fine tradition of playing winning football one week and then looking nothing like a winner the next.
One week they’re torched on the ground. The next scorched thru the air.
Never ever know with the Raiders…
Special teams could factor against Seattle.
2nd overall rn D for them too…
October 28th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Guess I gotta do more research on Cam Newton….
October 28th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
# lefty12 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:56 am
You know how it goes-sh!t happens.At least I’m still kickin’.
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How’s the righty?
Lefty
October 28th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Is it too early to start the cam newton campaign for the silver and black? this dude maybe one of the greatest college qb’s I have ever seen. he is the ultimate weapon.
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Ever seen? The guy has played 6 games.
Like you said that there is a reason Nick Miller wasn’t drafted (which is true) there is a reason Cam Newton played JC football.
He is a convict, with no arm or accuracy.
Wouldn’t be suprised if he became a Josh Cribbs (former college QB) type player in the NFL.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Thoughts on Darron Thomas (Oregon)?
Looks fkin good.
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I don’t think we need to draft another QB till we get some real coaches. We suck at developing QB’s. We’re better off trading for someones reject.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Heard a new song on the radio, about getting drunk on sizzurp. Can’t get JaMarcus wasted face out of my head when I hear that song.
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Who now?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I didnt know Cam Newton played for florida behing Tebow and then tranfered to Auburn after beuing arrested for stealing a Lap Top..Hmmmm Interesting
October 28th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
I think Oaklands best bet is to comb the discrad pile for an experienced back up QB who can manage the team and run the game.
Developing QB draft picks? Not so much…
October 28th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Heard a new song on the radio, about getting drunk on sizzurp. Can’t get JaMarcus wasted face out of my head when I hear that song.
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Who now?
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Something about “sober chicks acting like they drunk” or something like that.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Give me Terrell Pryor over Cam Newton any day of the week
October 28th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Wow alot of Typos…Typin to fast
October 28th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:57 am
McRaider5150 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Seperation is not alway on the wide reciever. We should have plays that will cause seperation in the coverage . We drafted this guy #7th overall and you don’t run a go route with him. How many times have you seem other WR run a go route right off the line? You don’t have to be a good route runner for that. Anyone remember James Jett???? Horrible WR, but he always got his passess down field. Why don’t we take our shots with DHB?
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He runs sloppy routes at times, and it’s going to catch up on him that he’s always pointing to the ref after every drop. It’s like a whiny kid that keeps pestering his momma. After a while they tune em out!
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CBs hold him every chance they get especially when playing off coverage.
He needs to learn hand fighting and to create seperation in man.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Todd McShay thinks Newton could have a long pro career…..as a kick returner
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/10/mel_kiper_gives_a_vote_for_aub.html
October 28th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Go Denver
October 28th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
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CBs hold him every chance they get especially when playing off coverage.
He needs to learn hand fighting and to create seperation in man.
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He needs to be strong and use his hands to get away with the illegal chuck like Randy Moss does. But with JC throwing the ball a second too late, the DB’s always have recovery time. That part sucks for DHB and is not his fault.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Go Denver
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Seriously Bauce?
You can’t ever root for the Donks, ever man!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Please….i was rooting for kc earlier this year vs SF
October 28th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Donkeys are no threat. You can put a fork in them.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
They also quoted Newton has a long time project
October 28th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
FK the Whiners
October 28th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Some of the lyrics to these songs are bad. Rianna has a song where the dude is rapping about the square root of 69 is 8 something. ew, now that is bad! as in embarrasing lyric.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Jimbo Says:
He runs sloppy routes at times, and it’s going to catch up on him that he’s always pointing to the ref after every drop. It’s like a whiny kid that keeps pestering his momma. After a while they tune em out!
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Alvis Whitted and James Jett could run a route to s ame their life, but still got their shots down the field. How can you ask a guy to stretch the field if you don’t throw him the ball?? Just asking
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I have two teams…..Raiders and whoever plays the 49ers
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Just throw DHB the ball deep and hope for a P.I. call.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
FK the Whiners
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I’ll root for the Whiners this one week. And any other week they face the Chargers or Chefs.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I’d take Cam Newton in the 4th round, but that’s about it for now.
Who knows, I’m sure he will go back to school next year and may improve on the passing game.
As much as I hate to say it, I think Matt Barkely of USC is hands down the best pro prospect QB in college.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I have two teams…..Raiders and whoever plays the 49ers
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I gotta agree w/ you on that one B.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I have two teams…..Raiders and whoever plays the 49ers
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Lol, that’s how I feel about Denver.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Darron Thomas anyone?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Just throw DHB the ball deep and hope for a P.I. call.
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That is DHB’s redeeming virute, eh? ability to get a PI. think about that?
What is hakeem nicks skill. oh yeah, scoring TD’s, making db’s look the fool. And Al chose which WR?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I never root for the 49ers….under any circumstances…..i hope they go 1-15
October 28th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I have two teams…..Raiders and whoever plays the 49ers
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Lol, that’s how I feel about Denver.
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Dont get your angle….our hatred is bigger than you can know
October 28th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Broncos Niners Superbowl…who did you root for back then Bauce?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
That is DHB’s redeeming virute, eh? ability to get a PI. think about that?
What is hakeem nicks skill. oh yeah, scoring TD’s, making db’s look the fool. And Al chose which WR?
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DHB and Murphy are often open but Campbell has little faith in them/himself.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
There was a fan they showed on TV with a Niner Jersey and Raider hat. If he was at the Coliseum, I do believe they would rearrange his teeth for him.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
DraftSITE.com has us picking up Colin Kaepernick in the 4th round…..Maybe the 7th round but not the 4th in my eyes
October 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Darron Thomas anyone?
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Haven’t watched much, now that I don’t live in Vegas and bet on games all day on Saturday, don’t watch nowhere near the same amount of Saturday football.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
LAtoBay you aint from up here so i dont expect you to get it……we are looked down upon by that side ofthe bay in many aspects not just sports…..many Raider ppl left in 1982 and jumped over there when they bounced to LA…….its deeper than you can fathom my friend….Denver aint shhht to us
October 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Darron Thomas anyone?
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Haven’t watched much, now that I don’t live in Vegas and bet on games all day on Saturday, don’t watch nowhere near the same amount of Saturday football.
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Vegas,
If you get a chance, check the kid out.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Jimbo Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Broncos Niners Superbowl…who did you root for back then Bauce?
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Denver for sure….are you crazy….let sf get number 6?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
That is the best hope on deep passes to DHB….a PI call.
Beign that he has never caught a deep pass in a regular season game in over a year, why would anyone (including the QB’s) think he is going to go up and make a play on the ball?
Just flop baby!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I have two teams…..Raiders and whoever plays the 49ers
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So u a Denver “fan” huh
October 28th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
DHB and Murphy are often open but Campbell has little faith in them/himself.
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Agree that they get separation. But Campbell’s indecision and slow release make you scream at the TV when you see the DB recover as the Murph and DHB have to adjust to the ball late and they get taken out.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Just flop baby!!!
^^^^^^
Vlade Bey
October 28th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I have two teams…..Raiders and whoever plays the 49ers
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So u a Denver “fan” huh
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Denver plays SF this week right?……..Go Denver…..if you are at game on sunday watch reaction of crowd when they announce the 49ers losnig to Denver…..resounding yells of joy
October 28th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
That is the best hope on deep passes to DHB….a PI call.
Beign that he has never caught a deep pass in a regular season game in over a year, why would anyone (including the QB’s) think he is going to go up and make a play on the ball?
Just flop baby!!!
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Thats what I’m saying. Throw the schit deep and hope for a 50 yd P.I. call.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Then finish the play w/ a DMAC TD run.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Darrius Heyward-Rodman lol
October 28th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Thats what I’m saying. Throw the schit deep and hope for a 50 yd P.I. call
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Get DHB trained up in getting his feet tangled on purpose (accidentally) with the DB.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Thoughts on Darron Thomas (Oregon)?
Looks fkin good.
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i love that kids game. I have number 3 behind newton, and griffin at baylor.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Sadly, Campbell and Bruce 27th and 29th in the NFL in QB rating (respectively).
Only guys worse are Sam Bradford, Brett FAvre, Jimmy Claussen, Derek Anderson and Matt Moore.
YIKES!!!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Maybe DHB needs glasses. Like the pitcher in Major League, Wild Thing, He couldnt pitch for ish till he got those dorky glasses. Maybe he gets fitted for contacts and he see and turns into the next Jerry Rice.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bauce, yeah being an Oakland native all my life, I know how it is socially, hell even the San Bruno and MIllbrae mf’s who have nothing to do with it turn their noses up, but you know what, I can’t ever root for a division team, unless they’re completely out of it, and can make the niners feel even worse…I hate those teams in SF and even want the Rangers to win the World Series…even though I’m not a baseball fan, I just don’t wanna see the Giants/Niner fans happy, but I can’t root for them to lose to Denver, and with the Chiefs undefeated at the time, I dam sure didn’t root for KC lol, just can’t do it mane..but I hear you on those snobby “city by the bay” folks
October 28th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
CBs hold him every chance they get especially when playing off coverage.
He needs to learn hand fighting and to create seperation in man.
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I agree that that could be the issue sometimes, but do you know how other teams counter that?
They either have him off the ball to give him more space, or they bring him into the slot position. Jett and Whitten made their play in slot not onthe outside.
Sorry,bottom line is we lack coaching at the WR and QB position. Put Murphy or DHB on a team with good coaching and a QB, you’ll se much better results.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bauce, yeah being an Oakland native all my life, I know how it is socially, hell even the San Bruno and MIllbrae mf’s who have nothing to do with it turn their noses up, but you know what, I can’t ever root for a division team, unless they’re completely out of it, and can make the niners feel even worse…I hate those teams in SF and even want the Rangers to win the World Series…even though I’m not a baseball fan, I just don’t wanna see the Giants/Niner fans happy, but I can’t root for them to lose to Denver, and with the Chiefs undefeated at the time, I dam sure didn’t root for KC lol, just can’t do it mane..but I hear you on those snobby “city by the bay” folks
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4 real man.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
GO NINERS! YYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
BAUCE
October 28th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Go SF Giants!!!
Probably one of the only Cal Bears, Golden State Warriors, Oakland Raiders, SF Giants fans in the world.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Man, the Warriors looked good last nite.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bauce, yeah being an Oakland native all my life, I know how it is socially, hell even the San Bruno and MIllbrae mf’s who have nothing to do with it turn their noses up, but you know what, I can’t ever root for a division team, unless they’re completely out of it, and can make the niners feel even worse…I hate those teams in SF and even want the Rangers to win the World Series…even though I’m not a baseball fan, I just don’t wanna see the Giants/Niner fans happy, but I can’t root for them to lose to Denver, and with the Chiefs undefeated at the time, I dam sure didn’t root for KC lol, just can’t do it mane..but I hear you on those snobby “city by the bay” folks
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I damn will stay rooting against the 49ers…..i want denver to beat them then SD i hope kills them by 50!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
DMAC Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Just throw DHB the ball deep and hope for a P.I. call.
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DHB has to go up to get the ball in order to get the PI call. Instead he waits for it like he’s holding a heavy basket of fruit. Then he wonders why he didn’t get the PI call and ref thinks “because the defender was playing the ball more than you were!” I guarantee he’d have drawn at least 3 PI calls this year for big gains if he would just go for the ball instead of wait for it to come down to him. I really hope Jackson is telling him this.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
David Lee will be the difference for this team making a playoff run.
Can’t drift out of the paint, because that goofy dude can score and bang the glass down there.
No more of these Anthony Randolph-want-to-shoot-3’s types of big dudes.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Man, the Warriors looked good last nite.
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A notch better than with Nelson but still suck!
Go Lakers! lmfao
October 28th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
The warriors looked real good last nite… Im loving the David Lee pick up and Beidrins looks like he’s back to being the double double guy he way in 08
October 28th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Jimbo Says:
Maybe DHB needs glasses. Like the pitcher in Major League, Wild Thing, He couldnt pitch for ish till he got those dorky glasses. Maybe he gets fitted for contacts and he see and turns into the next Jerry Rice.
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guess what??? Last year on the Radio Tim Brown said that he thought this might be the problem. He said he thought it looked like the ball was getting on him too fast and that he might have a problem with vision.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
And how are you a oakland native withthe Laker stuff going on in your handle? You must mean Lake Merritt i hope
October 28th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
GO NINERS! YYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
BAUCE
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Niners not winning and Denver will win…….you are not a BAUCE
October 28th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Another low road post Jerry. What does any of the stuff you brought up REALLY have to do with this week? I am sure there are plenty of times when the raiders had blow out victories and won the following week?? Yes?? This is not about a defining moment this is about the raiders beating seattle this week, that is all.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
David Lee, and that D Wright dude, too. S Curry is fabulous.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
exla…..dont matter…..our fans much better than the punk LA crowds….way more hoop knowledge is flowing up here
October 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
LOL your right to root for whoever Bauce… I just can’t agree with you on that one… we can agree on one thing though….Go Raiders
October 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
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guess what??? Last year on the Radio Tim Brown said that he thought this might be the problem. He said he thought it looked like the ball was getting on him too fast and that he might have a problem with vision.
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Interesting….
October 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
I was impressed on how Ellis picked his shots and wasnt greedy
October 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Is it too early to start the cam newton campaign for the silver and black? this dude maybe one of the greatest college qb’s I have ever seen. he is the ultimate weapon.
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Ever seen? The guy has played 6 games.
Like you said that there is a reason Nick Miller wasn’t drafted (which is true) there is a reason Cam Newton played JC football.
He is a convict, with no arm or accuracy.
Wouldn’t be suprised if he became a Josh Cribbs (former college QB) type player in the NFL.
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read the post carefully I said “maybe” have ever seen. he must prove it through time.
For the record he did get into some trouble when he was younger, but he has credited that single incident for changing his life. he bought a stolen laptop from a class mate.
newton started at florida, when tebow came back for his final year he transferred to a jc, because he wanted to play. it wasnt that he was kicked off or couldnt play at the college level. After leading his jc to a national championship, he was recruited by Oklahoma, ole miss, and auburn.
You couldnt be more wrong about his accuracy, not only is he accurate, he has already learned how to throw receivers open by leading them and putting touch on it when he needs it.he has a very quick delivery, and he doesnt turn the ball over. he is a natural team leader.
I saw the lsu game over the weekend, and i have to agree with former 12 nfl qb Gary danielson’s assesment, who stated ” as a passer newton is a really good nfl qb prospect, and rates only slightly behind mathew stafford, as of this moment.”
i however give newton the edge over stafford as a total qb, because of his home run threat abilty running the ball.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
WARRRRRRRIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSS!
October 28th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Ellis played well but still get him outta here….I’ll take Oj Mayo for him anyday of th week and twice on sunday
October 28th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
GO NINERS!
GO LAKERS!
YYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
SAUCE
October 28th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Your warriors are building a better team though, I gotta hand it to em, would’ve helped them a whole hell of a lot to move up a couple slots for Cousins, but hey, at least you have 5 guys on the court who almost compliment each other now, next step is a wing and a frontcourt guy who really believes in playing defense.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Newton will crash back to earth as a passer soon enough I believe.
For his sake, he needs to go back to school next year and learn the intricies of the position.
But if he gets a first round grade, he will probably jump on it like a cheap laptop.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
way more hoop knowledge is flowing up here
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If you mean knowledge of the 2nd weakest franchise in the NBA next to the Slippers
October 28th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Ellis is a special player, basically unstoppable.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Kings got to 1-0 on the road in Minny. gotta like that.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
The Bauce thinks Ellis is homo so he wants him out of town (or the town)
Not sure about that, but when he is on, he can fill it up in a hurry.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Raiderlaker1980 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
LOL your right to root for whoever Bauce… I just can’t agree with you on that one… we can agree on one thing though….Go Raiders
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yes…..BAUCE
October 28th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
If Jason Campbell has the Balls that Bruce Grad has, her would be one hell of a QB. Jason is just too afraid of making mistakes. That’s what keeps him from making big plays at QB. Grad plays with fire and I think has more confidence in his abilities. His skill are just limited. IMO
October 28th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
way more hoop knowledge is flowing up here
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If you mean knowledge of the 2nd weakest franchise in the NBA next to the Slippers
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Sorry buddy this is Oakland home of the most winningest athlete ever…………BILL RUSSELL……eat that c*cksucker…….no one will ever win like that guy
October 28th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
If you watched Nnamdi’s interviews, he wears glasses. He need to talk to dhb.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
way more hoop knowledge is flowing up here
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If you mean knowledge of the 2nd weakest franchise in the NBA next to the Slippers
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And idiot Bo…..the glass Slippers never won a title……….Warriors have done so….so spare me the 2nd weakest crap
October 28th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Face it, we need to get through this rough patch, but our season is riding on a healthy Grads.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
way more hoop knowledge is flowing up here
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If you mean knowledge of the 2nd weakest franchise in the NBA next to the Slippers
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Sorry buddy this is Oakland home of the most winningest athlete ever…………BILL RUSSELL……eat that c*cksucker…….no one will ever win like that guy
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WTF! He went to USF.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Hahahaha Bill Russell? Weak bauce…
October 28th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
The Bauce thinks Ellis is homo so he wants him out of town (or the town)
Not sure about that, but when he is on, he can fill it up in a hurry.
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He is a homo but thats not why I want him gone…..he doesnt play defense and cant d up the better 2 guards in the league….damn entertainment basketball…..being an elite team should be the goal…..Curry is a helluva PG now give us a SG cuz i like Carney at SF
October 28th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
I recommend basketball as a hobby for DHB. Those BBall players have good hands. Look at Antonio Gates, and T. Gonzales.
Learn to have a handle in a street court game, and you hone your instincts and coordination for the oblong ball.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Hahahaha Bill Russell? Weak bauce…
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Ok Bo lacks any basketball knowledge saying this crap……..see the rings? see he did it as a player coach….first black head coach to win in any sport? Boston was a crap franchise until he came…….please hush up
October 28th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
That ‘99 win against KC that year was epic for me. My ex-wife & I were in central Missouri for the holidays and they’re huge KC fans, of course. My ex & I had a bet that if the Raiders won, she would have to wear my Raiders gear around their little, crappy, podunk town for a day. I remember watching that game in her folks living room with them gloating at knocking the Chiefs our of the playoffs. People from Missouri really hate Raider fans from Cali. You can imagine the types of looks she got wearing Raiders gear into WalMart the next day.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
way more hoop knowledge is flowing up here
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If you mean knowledge of the 2nd weakest franchise in the NBA next to the Slippers
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Sorry buddy this is Oakland home of the most winningest athlete ever…………BILL RUSSELL……eat that c*cksucker…….no one will ever win like that guy
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WTF! He went to USF.
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LOL typical LA guys have me laugh…………..yes he went to USF for college cuz Cal wasnt having blacks there for damn sure in the 50s…….Russell went to McClymonds in West Oakland
October 28th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
VR…..having Curry and Ellis as your backcourt defensively hurts ya
October 28th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
cant blame a college kid for taking money that nfl execs want to give him. Nor can you blame him for being impatient wanting to live his dream as pro.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Hopefully Russell Okung doesnt play…..can help the DEs
October 28th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
cant blame a college kid for taking money that nfl execs want to give him. Nor can you blame him for being impatient wanting to live his dream as pro.
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Damn right……my cousin plays for Mizzou and they gonna have a great chance at the final four this season….if they make it I’m tellin him to bolt fast to the NBA
October 28th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
If newton declares for the draft he will be the best qb of his class
October 28th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Brien, the fact you have no pride in one Warrior player shows they are the 2nd weakest in the NBA. Thanks to Rick Barry for bumping em over the Slips.
You actually claim ancient Bill Russell bacuase he GREW UP in Oaktown? Been a long 50 years for ya then. My condolences.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Oakland:
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Bill Russell
Vada Pinson
Frank Robinson
Joe Morgan
Rickey Henderson
Jason Kidd
Clint Eastwood
Sly & the Family Stone
Tower of Power
Graham Central Station
Tom Hanks
Charlie Smith
KoolKell
Max Baer
Robert Culp
Phil Escovido
Gary Payton
Willie Stargell
Dontelle Willis
Hells Angels
East Bay Dragons
Brien did I miss anybody?
October 28th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Monta is one dimensional, and a head case. trade him while he still has value. he would fit with a team that needs scoring off the bench,a goo defense, and lots of vets that have won a ring to keep him in check. he would be good with a team like boston coming in off the pine, im not sure whet the celts would want to give up for him though.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
If newton declares for the draft he will be the best qb of his class
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Like all of the other great SEC qbs? Not a pro-style offense, and he wont be able to run like he does in the pros.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
hate the niners but giving troy smith the start is the best move of singetary’s career, right next to kicking v davis off the field in game, on camera.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Pointer Sisters
Too Short
Toni Tony Tonee
October 28th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
How can you exclude the Eck?
He was born in Oakland wasn’t he?
October 28th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Oakland:
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Bill Russell
Vada Pinson
Frank Robinson
Joe Morgan
Rickey Henderson
Jason Kidd
Clint Eastwood
Sly & the Family Stone
Tower of Power
Graham Central Station
Tom Hanks
Charlie Smith
KoolKell
Max Baer
Robert Culp
Phil Escovido
Gary Payton
Willie Stargell
Dontelle Willis
Hells Angels
East Bay Dragons
Brien did I miss anybody?
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You need to exclude KoolKell for damn sure…..you forgot tony,toni,tone, too short, yukmouth, davonne bess, josh johnson, marshawn lynch on a b_tch….bruce lee loved Oakland and would go to the earl Raider games….grandpa saw him all the time
October 28th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Dave Stewart as well
October 28th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
# bcz24 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
If newton declares for the draft he will be the best qb of his class
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Like all of the other great SEC qbs? Not a pro-style offense, and he wont be able to run like he does in the pros.
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A lot of nfl teams a running a version of the spread, the leauge is changing. Brady and brees make their living in a spread.
He doesnt need to run it the way he does in college, he is a passer first. How ever having said that he is every bit as dangerous on the run as vick or young, and they have killed teams running the ball when the play breaks down.
i would love to see him come to the town, play behind campbell and learn. then put him in that spread pistol with dmac like we saw last week. It would be crazy, but probably wont happen, i dont think we will be able to draft high enough to get him.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
The Ward Brothers.
The Mack
El D Riders.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Oakland has produced many great people in many different fields and we arent even a huge city
October 28th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
What about Bruce Lee
October 28th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Damn Kell went to the pimp game lol
October 28th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Bruce Lee lived in Oakland before he went to do the Green Hornet and would hit up Raider games
October 28th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
is jerry late for work
October 28th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Where would this world be without my beloved oakland? Dont forget huey newton and the panther party, they changed the world.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Barry’s sons? Thanks…..white slam dunk champion born at same hospital as the Bauce
October 28th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Actually the Hells Angels didnt start in Oakland
October 28th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Mistic you got it!
October 28th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
My man Leon Powe representin Oak town
October 28th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Oakland,_California
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Learn about our small town that still makes BIG NOISE
October 28th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
LMAO @ the Oakland little man complex
October 28th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Actually the Hells Angels didnt start in Oakland
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Did So, My mother used to do Sonny Barger’s taxes, when he lived on Golf Links/98th.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
All of yall that come here and talk down on the town need to hush up because guess what team your love in football? Guess where their home base is at? Guess where all the history and mystique come from?
Bo is a funny guy but needs to burn that white hood he hides in the closet
October 28th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
They were founded in the Fontana Area of California in 1948…
October 28th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Out of towners will never understand.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
LMAO @ the Oakland little man complex
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Sorry Bo we are the underdogs and people appreciate us more than that fagged out society you love so much right off of Figeroua
October 28th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Sonny Barger created the Oakland Chapter… According to Sonny the clubs were not in knowing of each other for an actual couple years…
October 28th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Out of towners will never understand.
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Bo does….he just afraid a a few darker faces…..but see thats why I dig Norcal white people….they not trippin….they chillin right with us and its no issue
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
All of yall that come here and talk down on the town
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Say wha? Raggin on the weak ass Warriors turned you all hometown. They still suck. Deal wid it.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
dude, stop hating on Ellis. He balled yesterday. On fire!!!!
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
# Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Mistic1 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Out of towners will never understand.
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Bo does….he just afraid a a few darker faces…..but see thats why I dig Norcal white people….they not trippin….they chillin right with us and its no issue
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Yep….all 6 of them
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
My pops used to play in some grimmy bars for the Angels back in the day.
Told me many times the place just erupted into a near riot and they were only worried about getting the hell out of there and not worried about the $50 they were all supposed to split at the end.
Dude’s would literally leave one by one so nobody saw. Let the dude on the piano bail, the singer would go get the car started, drummer was always last because he could go without the amps, lol.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
For a relatively small town, there’s been quite a few game changers out of here, in every walk of life.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
paul pierce, Luke Skywalker (Mark Hammil) and Tupac some more notables from Oaktown
October 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Bauce 4 Real Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
All of yall that come here and talk down on the town
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Say wha? Raggin on the weak ass Warriors turned you all hometown. They still suck. Deal wid it.
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Warriors 1-0 thank you and we dont suck WE GET SUCKED…..Laker fans are the ones that suck….it all off
October 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
he just afraid a a few darker faces
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If you only knew the truth B. But you don’t so I let it slide.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
For a relatively small town, there’s been quite a few game changers out of here, in every walk of life.
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Agreed
October 28th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
he just afraid a a few darker faces
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If you only knew the truth B. But you don’t so I let it slide.
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Oh yeah ok Bo you played basketball at the parks a few times with them i get it lol…….ill be back in a minute
October 28th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
No mention of those bad azz broads from En Vogue??
October 28th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I laugh how noting Oakland’s faults gets you called racist tho. Nice set up.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
And former MVP J-Roll (who I played with on an AAU team way back in the day)
October 28th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
No mention of those bad azz broads from En Vogue??
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lol
October 28th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Warriors 1-0 thank you and we dont suck WE GET SUCKED…..Laker fans are the ones that suck….it all off
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For decades the scoreboard has proven otherwise, Joe Barry…
October 28th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
2pac was born in East Harlem….. Moved to Baltimore and the ended up moving to Marin City..(THE JUNGLE) and then moved to Oakland
October 28th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I hope Grads mom is going to fly to Oakland this week. I figure she can get some home cookin’ in for the boys before sunday’s game! Gimme 2 wins in a row baby!
October 28th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Huey P Newton
Angela Davis
October 28th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Sad:
http://www.tom-carden.co.uk/presentations/berkeley_talk/full/Berkeley%20Talk.012.jpg
October 28th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
2pac was born in East Harlem….. Moved to Baltimore and the ended up moving to Marin City..(THE JUNGLE) and then moved to Oakland
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Someone has it wrong on the website I went on then, Good to know.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
all the guys outta oakland, and still no carlos santana, spice 1 or seagram? lol and Bauce, thank you for making the man recognize Yuk…best bay rapper by far….only guy I thought coulda been better was Rappin Ron(r.i.p)
October 28th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
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October 28th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
5.LA to TheBay Says:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Jerry hiding behind the cloak of Haterism that is characteristic of his profession.
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What a ridiculous observation. A journalist’s job isn’t to convey mindless boosterism. That’s the job of some of the shallow thinking chest thumpers on this blog.
October 28th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
nation ,
did you mention mc hammer, and wasn’t tommy smith from oaktown?? another famous oaklander is felix mitchell, in fact he renamed the town cokeland lmao