Raiders live chat Tuesday at 11 a.m.
By Jon Becker
Monday, November 1st, 2010 at 11:12 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Jerry McDonald will be on hand around 11 a.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 2 for his weekly Raiders live chat. Among the items up for discussion are the Chiefs, Randy Moss and another impending blackout.
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November 1st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
DaRayduh Says:
November 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Ah, Key word here. Never said ‘learned’. Said they pick each others brains,
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Fair enough. Just what did Jerry “pick” from Al’s brain? One example, please.
November 1st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Oh, and that’s a FIRST.
November 1st, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Gentlemen, my boat is leaving here in Sydney so I’m out.
November 1st, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Back at ya tomorrow night RMR.
November 1st, 2010 at 11:17 pm
See you later, Rayduh. It’s unfortunate you couldn’t give one example as to just what Jerry Jones has picked from Al Davis’s brain. You made the claim, so I was hoping for an example or two. Guess that’s just not how you make points. Anyhow, have a good ride.
November 1st, 2010 at 11:22 pm
later fellas!!
November 1st, 2010 at 11:24 pm
priesttj Says:
November 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm
DJ Big Al has made several mistakes recently no question but to say he doesn’t know what he’s doing is something different no one is perfect and biulding a winning team is extremely difficult which is hard for fans to understand some teams will lose for decades it’s only been 7 years for us.
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Sounds to me like you view Al as being just a tad bit better than some of the worst owners in the game. So, basically, you really don’t think much more of him than I do. Unless, of course, you want to compare him to the successful owners in the game today. I’m all ears. Anyhow, looks like you’re out of here. So hopefully we’ll hear it from you tomorrow. Goodnight, Priest.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 am
deuces yall
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:06 am
# priesttj Says:
November 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm
DJ Big Al has made several mistakes recently no question but to say he doesn’t know what he’s doing is something different no one is perfect and biulding a winning team is extremely difficult which is hard for fans to understand some teams will lose for decades it’s only been 7 years for us. Tell that to the Jets and the Chiefs and the 49ers even, same with Dallas those fans have only seen 1 playoff win in 14 seasons and look at their record.
Everything is relative we’re frustrated but other fans are much more so tha n we are. If we make the playoffs this year this will have been only 7 years it was just that we were much worse than Raiders fans could relate to. But this is a very well biult team we have now.
I think before it’s over we’ll say it was worth the wait. The Chargers and Broncos and Chiefs haven’t been to the SB in decades we were there 8 years agoo. Not to shabby.
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There you go again. You’re comparing the Raiders to the worst. You know, there was once a time we Raider fans were able to match the Raiders up against the best. Perhaps you’re too young to remember?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 am
Injury Report both Good and Bad
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives/exclusives_20
“Crucial injuries may play a role but who could be coming back could be an even bigger factor”
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:23 am
Good morning Vietnam!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 am
Interesting the tone of Cable in his talk of the QB position.
Not sure if even I would make the switch back to Bruce right now, and not sure why he was so blunt about who it is.
Campbell is probably a little ticked, and really I wouldn’t blame him too much.
(Oh…….go Gigantes!!!)
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 am
I was just reading over some posts that I missed and what the hell is with this Candy Floss talk? Let him rot in the metrodome with brett faver…
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
JFB,
My guess is he wants to keep Campbell hungry. Don’t let him get to comfy, a player will probably play better if he feels he’s still trying to earn a job rather than been given it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 am
Carl,
I made that same point in the offseason, when they just handed the job and a contract extension to Campbell before he even played a down.
Maybe they learned a lesson.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:52 am
(Oh…….go Gigantes!!!)
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Los Doyiers!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:53 am
Congratulations Giants fans!
Hummmm baby!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I guess I should be happy for the Bay Area, but I’m not…sorry Giants fans…I am not one of them!!!
The talk in here is still Campbell vs. Bruce? It should get interesting soon!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:07 am
Mornin’ a.m. crew!
Couple thoughts:
-Kinda surprised at how flatly Cable stated that once Gradkowski is healthy, he’s getting the job back. I’m a huge Grads supporter, but he’s not exactly the kind of starter that’s so entrenched he won’t be losing his job to injury no matter what.
I’m just gonna figure they know things I don’t, since they interact with both men on a daily basis. If Campbell’s playing as well as he is and still is headed back to the bench, there must be a good reason for that.
Hell, maybe Campbell is the next Plunkett. Remember, Plunkett rode the pine for a while to get his mind right. Maybe Campbell will do the same thing.
-These next three weeks is when we’re gonna find out just how good Jared Veldheer is. This is who he has to deal with: Tamba Hali, James Harrison, Cameron Wake. Brutal stuff.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:10 am
The Miami game is gonna feature Samson Satele at center vs. Paul Soliai at nose tackle. SAMOAN ON SAMOAN VIOLENCE!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:11 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I guess I should be happy for the Bay Area, but I’m not…sorry Giants fans…I am not one of them!!!
The talk in here is still Campbell vs. Bruce? It should get interesting soon!!!
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Morning Hwnrdr;
Neither am I a Giants fan. But we can be civil and let them have their moment of glory, cant we?
Oh about Grads v Campbell. Whoever gets the call is who I am going to throw my support for. If Grads truly is healthy, I’d prefer him. But if another 2 weeks to heal up can have him back to Bruce Almighty, by all means sit him and start Campbell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:13 am
Grads will probably remain mysteriously injured until Campbell has a bad game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:13 am
Don’t think that Campbell is the answer. He thrived because of the running game, and not visa versa. Gradkowski should come back and open up the playbook some more.
I am more worried if Myers can step into the role of Zach Miller.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:14 am
I am more worried if Myers can step into the role of Zach Miller.
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There aren’t many starting tight ends in the league who can step into the role of Miller.
Being down Miller and Murphy is gonna be tough. Hopefully DHB can build on his last game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 am
Although I may be getting ahead of myself; didn’t Cable say Miller should be fine and the crutches are just precaution?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 am
SAMOAN ON SAMOAN VIOLENCE!
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Sounds like the subtitle of a weak B movie.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:16 am
I would bring in Moss. Look at our receivers. We have a bunch of inexperienced and injured wide outs. If his attitude doesn’t change, the Raiders can just cut him again.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:16 am
Hey Jimbo,
Yeah I guess we can…but SF fans chirp and talk crap more tan any other fan base…but when they are losing…you don’t see any of them around, besides the die hards…think about it…before they beat the Padres the last game of the season to get into the playoffs…no one was even talking…then all of a sudden…they are everywhere…sorry, but I don’t like the wagon…
But like I said last night…this is not a Giants blog, so I’ll keep it Raiders from here on out…
This Moss thing also…not too sure about that one…
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:18 am
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:16 am
I would bring in Moss. Look at our receivers. We have a bunch of inexperienced and injured wide outs. If his attitude doesn’t change, the Raiders can just cut him again.
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Even if he’s not active vs. KC, they could bring him up to speed during the bye week for the Pittsburgh game.
Schilens and Murphy should be back then too.
Moss, Schilens, DHB, Murphy, Ford….I’d roll with that group any day.
Even though he can be cut, he still would bring some drama beforehand. Not sure I want that at all, even for a little bit, given the way this team is finally starting to mesh.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:18 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 am
Although I may be getting ahead of myself; didn’t Cable say Miller should be fine and the crutches are just precaution?
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Miller was hopping on one foot in the 2nd Qtr, and after dropping an easy pass, dissappeared from that last game. I am pessimistic of his return. We’d be better off regardless to give him a 2 week vacation and come back healthy for the Steelers at 5-4.
As for KC…
We got this game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:18 am
A.B.,
that is the only way I will accept him back if his attitude changes and maybe even an apology to the nation about quitting on us 4 years ago…
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:19 am
Plus, Moss won’t be shy in letting us know whether Cable is an idiot or not.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:19 am
I don’t want Moss back. Do you all forget what a cancer he is/was?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
I’d rather us win or lose with what we got than put up with that headcase Randy Moss. He plays when he feels like it. Do you want to get all up for a big game and Moss just show up like he’s stoned?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
I can’t shake “I play when I wanna play” out of my mind.
And I don’t know if any team that’s seriously thinking about contending should either.
Hell, he was back in Minnesota playing with Brett Favre and he still didn’t play. He was quitting on routes, not jumping for balls….if he won’t do that there, how is he gonna be most anywhere else?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
The good thing is that Moss will probably retire before coming back here…unless he loves Mr. Davis…
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:21 am
Moss is only a cancer when things aren’t going good. If we keep winning, he will be ok. Plus, he will be playing for a contract.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:21 am
Plus, Moss won’t be shy in letting us know whether Cable is an idiot or not.
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What is the satisfaction in that? It’s a given that Cable is an idiot. What does that help?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:22 am
Also, the Raiders may pick up Moss just to keep him from the Chiefs.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
Jimbo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:21 am
Plus, Moss won’t be shy in letting us know whether Cable is an idiot or not.
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What is the satisfaction in that? It’s a given that Cable is an idiot. What does that help?
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I was being facetious.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
Idiot or not…maybe Cable can “pimp slap” him…LOL
OK, just kidding…I don’t think he will even think about coming back…unless he suddenly feels that we are headed in the right direction and thinks he can help get this team back to the SB…
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
Moss’s body language screams “loser”. Did you see the end of the half of that Sunday Night Game when Childress decided to run out the clock and Moss was flapping his arms in mutiny on the field?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
Shanarat called McNabb lazy and fat.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
I am excited about getting Chaz back.
He is going to be a big boost. Maybe comes back this week?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:25 am
Jimbo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
Moss’s body language screams “loser”. Did you see the end of the half of that Sunday Night Game when Childress decided to run out the clock and Moss was flapping his arms in mutiny on the field?
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Moss was right. Childress is an idiot.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:26 am
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Moss was right. Childress is an idiot.
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Doesn’t excuse Moss from making himself look like a 4 year old brat!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:26 am
Who is Chaz?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:27 am
what does that comment mean about the Raiders being the only 4-4 team bragging about their record?
I read a quote by Cable stating how disapointed he is in it. But, that they’re going to keep moving forward.
Are you referring to the fans in here excited about their performance the last couple of weeks?
I don’t know but that comment kinda sounded a little pithy and RMR-ish. Geez.
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Buckeye,
I shall elaborate. Nnamdi says “we have arrived”
Darren Mc says “they laid down for us”
McClain expects fans to support a team that hasn’t won more than 5 games in 7+ years before he’ll speak to the media. When is the last time we have an ACTUAL sellout crowd in Oakland?
Of course Cable says he’s disappointed. thats because in previous cases he kept on harping about back to back wins and being over the hump, only to have the team crumble to a lesser opponent. Maybe he realized that doesn’t work?
the Raiders need to take this serious. We don’t have time to celebrate being 4-4. the Chiefs are a tough opponent and we need to put an excellent gameplan together to beat these guys. They have BY FAR the best rushing attack in the NFL and that doesn’t exactly play to our strengths. Should they be happy? oh course! Should they be overconfident or cocky? no way. We need guys coming in hungry and prepared. The Chiefs aren’t going to roll over and let us have 1st place in the AFC West without a fight
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
Cable should be more like Rex Ryan and say the Raiders are the best team in the league and are going to the Super Bowl.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:33 am
I’m with you A.B. If the Raiders pick up Moss, we will go 11-5 or 10-6.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 am
One thing I’ve liked from Cable this week is him pointing out how much the team still did wrong on Sunday and that they still have lots of things they need to fix.
That’s exactly what a good coach does. Keeps the players grounded and is always looking for weak spots.
I remember seeing an interview with Tom Brady where he said that, even during their perfect regular season, they’d get reamed out by Belichick during film study for everything they screwed up.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 am
One game at a time.
We need to focus on taking away the Chief’s strengths and make them have to deal with our strength. I hope we get Big John Henderson back to help stop the KC run. Chiefs remember looked very beatable barely eeking out a win against the hapless Bills.
We win this game…go to 5-4…and vacation time…
We got this.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 am
The Raiders are the perfect team for Moss to prove he still has it. If he comes here and performs, someone will give him a huge contract next year. Moss + Raiders = Super Bowl
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
After that tough loss to the Niners I said that was a tough one to take, but I still believe Tom Cable has this team heading in the right direction.
You came on and said Buckeye, Cable has accomplished NOTHING. He has this team headed NOWHERE.
After these last two weeks would you care to reconsider?
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Buckeye,
I won’t deny saying that, but honestly … I don’t recall saying that. I was probably frustrated after losing to the winless 49ers. That game stunk because of Hue Jackson, Jason Campbell and the zone defense.
Hue Jax & JCamp got it done the past 2 weeks and it appears the zone D has been scrapped
Maybe it took 5 or 6 weeks for the staff and/or roster to finally “get it” , I don’t know.
I think this team has serious potential and could claim the AFC West. I have said as much almost every day for the past 2 weeks, so I’m wondering why you’re still clinging to a comment you claim that I made 3 weeks ago?
I’d rather the Raiders win games than me being right about predictions or projections!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 am
Chiefs remember looked very beatable barely eeking out a win against the hapless Bills
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It’s interesting to note that Charles and Jones ran wild over the Bills and racked up great stats, but it still only resulted in 13 points.
The Chiefs are very, very beatable even with their run game clicking.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 am
Chiefs are very overrated. We will dominate them. Raiders 27, Chiefs 7
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 am
Raider Ray Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 am
Chiefs are very overrated. We will dominate them. Raiders 27, Chiefs 7
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yup.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 am
I’m expecting a dog fight. high scoring game
Raiders 35
Chiefs 31
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:41 am
Hey, we are all fans. We all have the right to feel frustrated. The Monday after the Niner loss, I felt so sick I couldn’t talk about it for 3 days. I empathaize with anyone who had negative comments after that horrible display of football.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
Chiefs will get 2 scores from Charles, 1 from Jones and 1 from Bowe
Raiders will get 2 scores from McFadden, 1 from Bush, 1 from Reece and 1 from DHB
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
I to am expecting a dog fight. But a low scoring game.
17-7, Da Raidersss.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Raider Defense is going to stifle the one dimensional Chefs.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 am
I’m somewhere between Raider Ray and RRS.
Watch for Charles to break a long one on us. And we’re gonna have to grind it out against Crennel’s defense. But the Raiders should come out on top.
Same game plan for the Seahawks: stay out of 3rd and long, get in Cassel’s face, stop the run, grind ‘em down in the trenches.
I think this week you’ll see the Raiders beat another overrated division leader, but not as spectacularly. KC’s defense is for real, no denying.
Raiders 24
Chiefs 17
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:46 am
I too am a believer in KC defense. But we will stop the KC running game…and dare Cassel to throw over the top. Once we get a lead, we’ll pin the ears back and headhunt Cassel.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
They probably wont have Dex McCluster, and I was really worried about the mismatches he would create. That is a huge weapon for them to lose.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
I’ve watched a decent amount of Chiefs game when flipping through the NFL Sunday Ticket, and while I don’t have the stats in front of me, they seem like they go for it on 4th down way more than other teams.
This will be important for the Raiders D to realize this, and not get setup on a 3rd and 9 for a draw or screen by pining their ears back trying to get to the QB.
Chiefs did that a few times on Sunday. Knowing they would go for it on 4th down, running the ball on 3rd and 7 or 8.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
They probably wont have Dex McCluster, and I was really worried about the mismatches he would create. That is a huge weapon for them to lose.
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JFB is a big fan of Javier Arenas. thinks he’s just as big a threat to house a kickoff or punt return
think ST plays a factor in this one?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
JFB!
speak of the devil …
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 am
Us without Nnam is a huge thing to lose…I heard someone in here talking about what has Nnamdi done…well, he shut down Big Mike Williams…when he went down…Big Mike got that catch…
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
JFB is a big fan of Javier Arenas. thinks he’s just as big a threat to house a kickoff or punt return
think ST plays a factor in this one?
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I love Arenas too. I am a huge Bama Fan. I wanted to draft McClain in the first, Cody in the 2nd, and Arenas in the third. Arenas went higher than I expected so it wouldn’t have worked out anyway.
Arenas is no dropoff from McCluster, that’s for sure, but the threat of McCluster in the slot was a game changer. Now the Chiefs are more predictable.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 am
Us without Nnam is a huge thing to lose…I heard someone in here talking about what has Nnamdi done…well, he shut down Big Mike Williams…when he went down…Big Mike got that catch…
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We got lucky that we face one of the worst passing offenses in the league after Nnamdi went down. It’s just a week to the bye and hopefully he can be back in week 11.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
Arenas isn’t doing as well as I would have thought returning punts, but McCluster hasn’t been that great returning kickoffs.
I think McCluster’s value is a tad overstated. He only has 200 yards from scrimmage this season, and 60 yards rushing on the year.
200 yards from scrimmage is just another week for McFadden!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Us without Nnam is a huge thing to lose…
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CJ37 & Routt can cover Bowe & Chambers
Mike Mitchell will probably be on that Chefs rookie TE
this 3 on 3 is really a wash imo
STOP THE RUN = WIN THE GAME!
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Jimbo, I agree. Nnamdi may not even have been a factor against the Chiefs since their passing game is so bad. He is a good run defender. The Chiefs may benefit with play action passes, though.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
Morning Rockstar!!!
About to go rock the vote (still don’t know if I pull the lever for the first latino women Republican for governor yet) and go to work.
Catch all of you on the flip-side.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
If the Silver and Black can take care of business this week (and I hope it’s going to be extremely loud at the Coliseum!), then we can all sit back and hope K.C. takes it on the chin again next week. Coupled with our Bye, that would put us at the top of the leader board in Week 9 — that’s my immediate wish!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
IF THE RAIDERS DID PICK UP MOSS,WHO WOULD GET THE BALL TO HIM ?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
About to go rock the vote
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do it JFB! we’re taking 50 to 70 today
yeehaw
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
IF THE RAIDERS DID PICK UP MOSS,WHO WOULD GET THE BALL TO HIM ?
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I heard Shane Lechler throws a tight spiral
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
Florio at Pro Football Talk has us at #11 in his power rankings.
It’s a weird sight. But also damn nice.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
IF THE RAIDERS DID PICK UP MOSS,WHO WOULD GET THE BALL TO HIM ?
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I heard Shane Lechler throws a tight spiral
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LMFAO
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 am
From PFT:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/some-vikings-players-on-board-with-dumping-moss/
“Silver reports that “Moss had alienated some of his teammates with his brash, entitled behavior, most glaringly in an incident that occurred in the team’s locker room last Friday afternoon.”
Moss, per Silver, berated workers from a local restaurant that catered the team’s Friday afternoon meal.
“What the [expletive]?” Moss reportedly said. “Who ordered this crap? I wouldn’t feed this to my dog!”
Here’s how an eyewitness explained the situation to Silver: “It was brutal. The truth is, he deserved to be cut after that. It was such an uncomfortable moment. You know that feeling where you just can tell someone feels so small? That’s what it was like being there.
“This wasn’t a chain – it was a mom-and-pop restaurant, and you could tell it was their best stuff. They had a special carving station set up, and there were players and other support staff lining up to eat it. And [Moss] is at his locker saying, ‘You know, I used to have to eat that crap — but now I’ve got money.’ You just felt so sad for them. I had never seen anyone treated like that.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
if we shut down the Chiefs running game and the pass rush starts killing Cassel, he’ll turn into a dumpoff king like JCamp and his only 2 options in the passing game will be Charles and Moeaki
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
That is a darn good question, Dirt Lot…BTW: You be there Sunday?
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
IF THE RAIDERS DID PICK UP MOSS,WHO WOULD GET THE BALL TO HIM ?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
STOP THE RUN = WIN THE GAME!
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Truth
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
You should have seen Moss when he was in Oakland … disrespect, brooding and arrogance everywhere — especially on the sidelines! He’s just a super-gifted, way-too-entitled, self-absorbed bastard.
NLWH = No Longer Welcome Here!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 am
By the way, we don’t need another receiver — we have Khalif!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 am
This game will be won or lost along our DL and their OL. That is the war. The rest is details.
We clog their speed rushers, cause 3 and outs. Control possession, get the lead, and unleash hell on Matt Cassel while he is in catchup mode.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
Good Moning RR, Jim, Vegas, PA, Hwnrdr and Dirt!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
If get Schilens back, our offense opens up dramatically as he can take over Miller’s role in the offense.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
honestly…facing this KC team is like a rematch against SF imo
stout defense and a killer ground attack
we couldn’t run the ball or stop the run, so they beat us. This team has made big strides over the past 2 weeks and I think we’ll see the fruits of that this weekend
GO RAIDERS!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
You too bone!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
Good Morning R8eray
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Hey T-bone… I feel ya…
Second season that Moss was here, I started to be a season ticket holder. Too many times have I seen Moss give up on routes, not chase down an intercepted ball, etc, etc…and the list goes on…but this is Uncle Al we are talking about that would pull the trigger! Rember last year when he said that “We couldn’t keep Randy happy and satisfied”…we’ll see
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
What up fellas! Lovin’ the Nation!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 am
honestly…facing this KC team is like a rematch against SF imo
stout defense and a killer ground attack
we couldn’t run the ball or stop the run, so they beat us. This team has made big strides over the past 2 weeks and I think we’ll see the fruits of that this weekend
GO RAIDERS!
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Keep hitting me with that morning splash of koolaide!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Jimbo,
Chaz will be back for Week 16
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
HWNRDR,WAS THERE BUDDY.SORRY I WAS NOT IN CONTACT.NEXT WEEK SHOULD BE CRAZY. WILL B IN TOUCH..
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
Good Morning btw: Rockstar, T-bone, Ray…
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
This game will give us a good indication of RoMac’s progress. If he is a beast, he should be able to suff the Chiefs running game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
Oops, sorry…Good Morning Dirt Lot! And no problem…
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
I heard on a radio interview that the big adjustment that they made 2 weeks ago with JCamp and a lot of teammates is that they wanted the offense to be more instinctual and guess instead of being so analytical.
I think that is why we see the viciousness of Raider Football…..
92-17 and a thousand plus yards!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
Raider Ray Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
This game will give us a good indication of RoMac’s progress. If he is a beast, he should be able to suff the Chiefs running game.
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He’s definitely been on an upward swing lately. He’s been all over the field these past two weeks. It’ll continue!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Jimbo,
Chaz will be back for Week 16
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I think he comes back by the bye week.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 am
The ROMAC and DMAC show!!! Should be great…
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 am
Moss responds well when he is given clear-cut structure and purpose. If we were to bring him in (God forbid!) we would have to give him a meaningful task that would benefit the whole team and give him a sense of purpose — for example, he could push Chaz Schilens’ wheelchair!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
Too funny, T-bone!!! Push Chz’s wheelchair…haha!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
Big John Henderson could be back and stuffing the middle. Would be sweet!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
raidertbone Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 am
Moss responds well when he is given clear-cut structure and purpose. If we were to bring him in (God forbid!) we would have to give him a meaningful task that would benefit the whole team and give him a sense of purpose — for example, he could push Chaz Schilens’ wheelchair!
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LOL
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
If we could get Big John on the line for just two or three series of plays, that would be great!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 am
Hey everyone,
Let’s hope the Raiders don’t make a move for Moss. He’s a bigger cancer than T.O. will ever be. Hopefully our short WR’s are elusive enough to create separation from KC’s CBs. Also, let’s hope DHB has another game like he did against the hawks. We had our top 3 receivers out (Zach, Chaz, and Lou)and still managed 300+ yards against Seattle with DHB grabbing 105 of those. I think we can stack the box and force Cassel to win the game with his arm like we did Hasselbeck.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 am
Remember, even if we win, we still will trail the Chefs by a half game. We need this.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 am
I think Moss would be behave with the Raiders. He has a lot to prove and wants a new contract. IMO, bringing in Moss would be a coup.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:19 am
Gotta go to work guys. Parting shot: This week, it’s time to “Storm the Cassell”!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:19 am
Marcel Reese has been a force and he’s getting more involved each week. I think he’s the “X” factor that a lot of DC’s haven’t accounted for yet.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Coming into this season, no one ever thought this game would mean so much!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
it’s time to “Storm the Cassell”!
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Good one! Later tbone.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 am
Moss will make everyone else better on offense.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 am
This week, it’s time to “Storm the Cassell”!
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good work Tbone!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 am
teams usually have to double Zach Miller so if he doesn’t play this week they’ll have a man on Reece imo
hopefully Myers is ready
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Monday’s Headline: “Raiders Storm the Cassell”
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
Last week of the season in Arrowhead will be for the division title and a playoff berth. Seabass redeems himself by kicking the winning field goal as time expires.
PRINT THAT!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
When Moss was with the Raiders, their coaches were Norv Turner and Art Shell, enough said.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:24 am
hopefully Myers is ready
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Isn’t he still recovering from a concussion himself?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:26 am
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/dr_z/09/23/owens.moss/t1_moss.jpg
It’s going to be amazing!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 am
I don’t understand why Jerry even brings up the discussion of Moss. At 4-4, we likely wont get the opportunity to get him even if we wanted him.
I hope that Al still has some of his faculties and isn’t tempted to look at Moss in any case.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 am
Isn’t he still recovering from a concussion himself?
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he was ACTIVE against the Seahacks, but I’m not sure if he actually played
I know he’s been cleared … have not heard about him missing practice or lingering effects, have you?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:28 am
Looks like Damola Adeniji is going to have to give up #84. He will probably be cut, though.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:28 am
#1 focus of the week. We absolutely can NOT give up the “big one” this week. Charles and Jones are both capable of it
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 am
Isn’t he still recovering from a concussion himself?
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he was ACTIVE against the Seahacks, but I’m not sure if he actually played
I know he’s been cleared … have not heard about him missing practice or lingering effects, have you?
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No, but he is mostly a blocker right? If I recall, didn’t we skimp on the TE position to offset other needs?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 am
Moss might want back in the Bay area to sell his juice products …
trade Bruce Davis for Inta Juice!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 am
Marcel Reece is the most versatile FB in Football, right now! Plays FB/RB/TE/WR…wow, what else can you say! Right?
I think he’ll be one of many reasons we win Sunday!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:31 am
he is mostly a blocker right? If I recall, didn’t we skimp on the TE position to offset other needs?
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Yes & Yes
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
“Well, here’s the game. 4th and 10 on the Chiefs 30, Raiders down by 6. Twenty seconds to go. Gradkowski from the shotgun, takes the snap, looks…looks…fires….CAUGHT BY KHALIF BARNES! HE MAY GO! BARNES BREAKS A TACKLE, STIFF ARMS ANOTHER CHIEF! HE’S INTO THE END ZONE!!! TOUCHDOWWWNNNNN RRRAIIIDDEERRSS!!! Beautiful play by reserve tight end Khalif Barnes!”
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
Myers makes leaping 1-hand grab from Brennan
Brennan finds Myers open left vs. Scott, turns upfield near sideline
Nice Boller play fake, finds Brandon Myers open vs. Sam Williams
Perfectly timed crossing rout Charlie Frye toTE Brandon Myers
Houston bodyslams Myers, fight ensues. Guess that’s what Cable meant by the rookie winning matchups over the tight end. Myers lost helmet.
Mitchell gets mini lecture for too much contact on short Boller incompletion to Brandon Myers
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Jimbo, I dusted off some old training camp tweets courtesy of Jerry Mac for your viewing pleasure!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
Wouldn’t that be something…having a fullback on your roster in FF!
6′3″, 240lb. is a good frame for many positions…if I’m not mistaken, I believe he ran a 4.6 which is not bad!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Reece was a WR in college.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:39 am
If we embarrass KC on Sunday (like 38-13) wonder what kind of respect we’ll get?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:40 am
Jimbo, I dusted off some old training camp tweets courtesy of Jerry Mac for your viewing pleasure!
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Thanks for the splash! although a healthy Myers in preseason is probably a far shake from the one we have now.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 am
Good morning all.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 am
You know..Reece loves him some Hue for getting more involved!
Reece 2010 FB ProBowl candidate!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 am
Good Morning Neilb
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 am
Morning Jimbo.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 am
If we win Sunday, do we start Bruce after the bye?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 am
Our Mid-Season Grade
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/507110-nfl-midseason-report-card-grading-all-32-teams-half-way-through-the-year#page/24
Offensive Grade: B+
Quarterback changes continue to occur in Oakland, with Bruce Gradkowski being replaced by Jason Campbell in Week 8.
The move at quarterback does come at a price for the Raiders, but luckily enough Jason Campbell’s efforts on the weekend against Seattle were well noted, as the former Redskins passed for 310 yards and two touchdowns.
To some though, Campbell’s efforts may be a little boring in comparison to Darren McFadden. If you told most people earlier in the year the McFadden would rush for 668 yards and four touchdowns, most would have laughed—but here we are eight weeks in and that stat is 100 percent true.
Considering where the Raiders were a year ago, a B+ grade is huge. Tom Cable has turned this team around, and now Oakland sit at 4-4 and ready to improve.
Defensive Grade: B-
Oakland’s defense has been half-and-half. On one end, their rush defense has been superb, while in the air, the Raiders struggle, even though Nnamdi Asomugha is a top name on the roster.
Speaking of Nnamdi Asomugha, the cornerbacks absence earlier in the year could be the reason for Oakland’s demise in the passing game. With Charles Woodson and Darrelle Revis hogging the spotlight, often Asomugha goes unmentioned, although he is one of the best corners in the league.
Like already mentioned though, the Raiders just need some talent. One more draft can provide that, and barring some Al Davis disaster next April, Oakland can easily pick up a well-tuned cornerback, safety or linebacker to compliment what they already have.
Overall Grade: B-
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
“Well, here’s the game. 4th and 10 on the Chiefs 30, Raiders down by 6. Twenty seconds to go. Gradkowski from the shotgun, takes the snap, looks…looks…fires….CAUGHT BY KHALIF BARNES! HE MAY GO! BARNES BREAKS A TACKLE, STIFF ARMS ANOTHER CHIEF! HE’S INTO THE END ZONE!!! TOUCHDOWWWNNNNN RRRAIIIDDEERRSS!!! Beautiful play by reserve tight end Khalif Barnes!”
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I can imagine Greg Papa making this call. Give my goosebumps.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am
R8eray….
If we win why change a winning side?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
r8eray Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 am
If we win Sunday, do we start Bruce after the bye?
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I vote yes!
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
I think our secondary is doing much better now.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:50 am
Start Bruce against the Steelers……..?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 am
What was Bruce’s injury…seperated shoulder?
Whats the average recovery time for an injury of that calibur?
Cale said “Bruce is our starter once he is healthy”, is that after the bye?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:53 am
You want to start a QB who’s been out for over a month against the best D in the nfl?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
Cable
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Good Morning Neilb, Airborne
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:57 am
neilb Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:53 am
You want to start a QB who’s been out for over a month against the best D in the nfl?
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Very similar situation to the 2nd game of season when Gradkowski came off the bench and fired up the team. Especially against Pittsburgh, I’d want Grads. He is their kryptonite.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 am
Morning Hwnrdr.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 am
a healthy Myers in preseason is probably a far shake from the one we have now
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thats fair to say, but many players come back after a concussion and deliver right away.
I remember Zach Miller getting his bell rung last year (2nd concussion of the season) and he had like 10 catches the next game!
Look at David Garrard throwing 4 TD’s against Dallas his first game back …
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
Had a chance to digest this qb thing last night, i think we may be over reacting. This looks like classic c-y-a from cable. Think about it for a second.
Campbell was benched for performance, grads was forced out after injury. Campbell saved us in vs diego but followed it up with a stinker in sf. Cable says grads will be back when healthy. Campbell then puts on a show the next two weeks. Cable is now in a win win scenario.
If grads comrs back and plays well, cable maintains his i believe in my guy persona, and looks like an honest guy who keeps his word to his players.
If grads struggles ( and he will) or we lose, then cable can reinsert campbell behind a a performance based determination. He can go with we felt this is best for the team now speech. Again his locker room stays in tact because they want to win.
Bottom line grads will never be the equal of soup & its just a matter of time before soup gets another crack. Besides he has already proven he can win in relief, and his performance winning three critical games in spectacular fashion setting the bar very high, & grads is simply too short to reach it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Jimbo….
Can’t argue with Bruce getting the team fired up.I just think that you shouldn’t change whats working.That’s why I’d keep Campbell in.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
Especially against Pittsburgh, I’d want Grads. He is their kryptonite.
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I’m sure Grads would love nothing more than the opportunity to repeat that amazing performance against Pittsburgh and I’d like to see him try.
But I wouldn’t go so far as to call him their kryptonite. He had the worst game of his career against them with Cleveland in 2008:
5 of 16 for 18 yards and 2 INT’s. A QB rating of 1.0.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
can you pull JCamp after a 3 game win streak for the first time in 8 years?
how good can Gradkowski be?
I mean since he’s been out we went from worst to first (after we beat Kansas Pity)
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:04 am
AirborneRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:46 am
Our Mid-Season Grade
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/507110-nfl-midseason-report-card-grading-all-32-teams-half-way-through-the-year#page/24
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What are they smoking? Campbell didnt replace grads in week 8… he did that in what week 5 right. Nnamdi hasnt missed any action at all, save for a few minutes last week. Supberb run D? 28th ranked in the NFL is superb? Struggle through the air on D? 4th rated pass D is struggling? Thats the worst report on us ever…
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
What up NATION???
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
Kansas Pity)
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I am thinking of a word that ryhmes with Pity..
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
if Cable pulls JCamp after a 3 game win streak and Grads looks awful against the Steelers and they give us a royal beatdown it could cost Cable his job.
you don’t mess with a good thing imo.
not unless Campbell plays awful against KC and we still win regardless, which I don’t see happening
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 am
I can see Campbell having a terrible game against the Steelers. Bruce, as he proved last season, may be better suited to go up against the Steelers D.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
Oh Sorry RRS, for calling KC that!
Dont mean to offend.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
I was a Grads supporter, and if the Tennessee/SF Campbell shows back up, I will clamor for a change, but I think it would be a mistake to go back to Grads the way Campbell is playing. Thats like benching McFadden because Bush scored a late TD last week.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
I don’t think it’s so much that Campbell is playing that well. He’s got a dynamite running game that makes his job easier.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:09 am
Bruce, as he proved last season, may be better suited to go up against the Steelers D.
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there are 2 reasons I would roll with BG and I’m only going to consider it if we lose to KC
#1 Bruce plays well against them because thats his hometown. his family is there
#2 Bruce has mobility and the Steelers love to blitz
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
I like both of our QB’s however, no way is Grads ready to go….Do we think that cable who has been on suicide watch since being named head coach would remove a QB who has won 3 out of 4 for the NATION????
If Grads comes in and starts and does a face plant, cable would be run out of town, and rightfully so.
Cable will ride the soup maker until the wheels fall off, then and only then will grads see the field…
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
When I was with the Army, I had a week’s training at Ft. Leavenworth, KS. I took the rental car to Arrowhead to see what it was like. Middle of December, brown snow everywhere. Man that was depressing.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
Just been checking up.We’ve got the Colts/Philly game on Sunday.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Thec07 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
I like both of our QB’s however, no way is Grads ready to go….Do we think that cable who has been on suicide watch since being named head coach would remove a QB who has won 3 out of 4 for the NATION????
If Grads comes in and starts and does a face plant, cable would be run out of town, and rightfully so.
Cable will ride the soup maker until the wheels fall off, then and only then will grads see the field…
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I think you are right, but I hope that Grads is given the opportunity to retake his job.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
I am a big Bruce Gradkowski supporter but Tom Cable need to ride with Jason Campbell until he start going back into that shell. I work in Washington DC and watched Jason go through a different offensive coordinator every year he was with the Redskins. Under the circumstances he did a good job. As in baseball I look at Jason Campbell as a starting pitcher and Bruce Gradkowski as a relief pitcher or closer. Cable can break tradition by playing both of them.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
Oh Sorry RRS, for calling KC that!
Dont mean to offend.
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Jimbo, I’m not offended
I’ve lived in Podunk for 4 years and only been to KC twice when I wasn’t headed to the Airport
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
brown snow everywhere.
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It’s yellow snow you’ve got to worry ’bout Jimbo!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
No matter what Campbell does, he can’t erase that 10.7 rating game he threw up there against the Niners. That game left a mark.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
You’re a hard lot to please!
Over 300 yds and no int’s……and you want to bench him!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
Oh Sorry RRS, for calling KC that!
Dont mean to offend.
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Jimbo, I’m not offended
I’ve lived in Podunk for 4 years and only been to KC twice when I wasn’t headed to the Airport
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I took the rental car the wrong way and headed west to the hinterlands of Kansas. Pretty scary stuff being out there with exits 40 miles apart, and rolling grain on both sides of the highway. I did a U turn and saw KC in the distance and sighed a breath of relief.
Podunk is scary!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
Jimbo,
Cable’s motto last year was that you don’t lose your job to injury
We saw that when Robert Gallery retook his LG job, even though Daniel Loper played well in relief
I think Groves is back at WLB too, even though Scott & Mitch filled in nicely
You may be right in regards to Gradkowski ???
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:20 am
Cable’s motto last year was that you don’t lose your job to injury
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How come Randy Hansen lost his job to injury then?
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:20 am
Podunk is scary!
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thats why my FF team is called the Podunk Express
but BCZ whooped me last week and Dell has already started in with some early trash talk
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
How come Randy Hansen lost his job to injury then?
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REVISED –
You don’t lose your job to an injury I didn’t inflict
Sincerely,
Coach Cable
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Question,which QB is better at not missing open targets?
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
Seriously though, Podunk is a nice place to live and raise children. I used to live in Alabama (Podunk South). I’d relocate back there if I could. When I retire, if I retire, I’d like to move back to podunk, AL.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 am
How come Randy Hansen lost his job to injury then?
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REVISED –
You don’t lose your job to an injury I didn’t inflict
Sincerely,
Coach Cable
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LOL
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
JCamp has won 3 of his last 4 games
the last two by a combined total of 75 points!
most of the Grads fans wanted Bruce in there because he got the WR’s involved in the passing game. DHB & Ford looked pretty involved on Sunday against Seattle
tough call. Grads is solely responsible for 1 win this year, the 2nd half of the Rams game
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
The Redskins are kicking the tires on JaMarcus…
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Thec07 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Question,which QB is better at not missing open targets?
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2 part answer, Campbell is more accurate, but the quality of his targets, i.e does he look downfield as much, I think I’ll take Grads yards per attempt as my poison of choice.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
JCamp has won 3 of his last 4 games
the last two by a combined total of 75 points!
most of the Grads fans wanted Bruce in there because he got the WR’s involved in the passing game. DHB & Ford looked pretty involved on Sunday against Seattle
tough call. Grads is solely responsible for 1 win this year, the 2nd half of the Rams game
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Playing the advocate here, It was said by poster that Soupmaker also missed a lot of open WR’s down the field…
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:29 am
YoungAmerican Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
The Redskins are kicking the tires on JaMarcus…
hahahahahahahaha….
Thats funny, they dont like Mcnabbs workout ethic, now they want brl is is 350….hahahahahaha
Some posters are right BRL might be the next elway…
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:29 am
Redskins will meet with JaMarcus Russell
Posted by Mike Florio on November 2, 2010 11:18 AM ET
The Shanahan-McNabb feud has gone to a new level.
Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston reports that JaMarcus Russell, the first overall pick in the 2007 draft, will meet with the Redskins.
The move comes during the Redskins’ bye week, two days after starting quarterback Donovan McNabb was yanked during crunch time of a loss to the lowly Lions.
The Redskins are the first team to consider Russell since he was cut by the Raiders earlier this year.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:29 am
189.YoungAmerican Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
The Redskins are kicking the tires on JaMarcus…
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Proves Shinnyhand is nuts.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
Seriously though, Podunk is a nice place to live and raise children.
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TRUTH. I don’t want to get into a morals or political debate here, so I’ll just say that Podunk suits my family well (conservative christian republican hunter)
I’m not offended by the term Redneck
I think BSJ calls me a hillbilly beancounter on occasion too – LOL
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:32 am
YoungAmerican Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
The Redskins are kicking the tires on JaMarcus…
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Shanarat just called McNabb lazy and fat. I don’t think he is going to want JaWalruss.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
Redskins will meet with JaMarcus Russell
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Russell outplayed McNabb head2head last year, remember?
I loved that sweet butterball spin move for the first down too!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
Trade someone for a hillbilly beancounter.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
i was one who wanted to keep Grads in after the initial change. There was no denying the spark he brought to the offence. That being said, I thought Campbell looked decent against Denver and good against the Hawks. He also had the luck that Grads had against the Steelers last year. It’s a tough call and that’s why they have head coaches.
If it was me, I’d tell Grads to give it another week. See how Campbell does against Kansas then we’ve got the bye.
If Campbell leads us to victory with a solid display then I change my mind and name him starter.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:37 am
It’s a tough call and that’s why they have head coaches.
If it was me, I’d tell Grads to give it another week. See how Campbell does against Kansas then we’ve got the bye.
If Campbell leads us to victory with a solid display then I change my mind and name him starter
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well said Braveheart!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
I think Grads is more accurate as long as his sidearm throws don’t get batted down. He gets the ball out faster too. A lot of times the receivers are stuck waiting for Campbell’s passes (i.e. DHB’s TD).
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/week-eight-power-rankings/
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA eat that haters….
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:41 am
Cable has painted himself into a corner and built a safety net all at once. Grads cant match soups output. The 10. Qb rating was bad, but it was clearly an anomlly. Grads 1. Qb rating was even worse, & he has never been very good in a staters role. I dont think the decision will be based on the worst games of their careers. Cable gave his word, and may stick to it. Grads if given a shot will flop, he has never been a consistent qb, or very accurate. He makes more turn overs than ms. Smith’s, tigers dont change their stripes. Lets not forget, Al loves Campbell, & has to love what jc did vs. Diego, and the last two weeks. Al wont force cable, bit cable is no fool, im sure grads will have a very short leash, even shorter than 6 quarters.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:41 am
BSJ,
do you remember that children’s book JaWalrus goes to Washington DC?
you said something about it being racist, but it was based upon a true story…
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
YoungAmerican says:
November 2, 2010 8:53 AM
Jesus, guys, I’m a Raiders fan and even I wouldn’t rank them any higher than 14.
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why not???
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
Grads if given a shot will flop, he has never been a consistent qb, or very accurate. He makes more turn overs than ms. Smith’s, tigers dont change their stripes
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Mistic, good work man!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:44 am
The three biggest plays of the game were real close. The slant to Reece, Heyward -bey’s long RAC, and the not-so-immaculate reception. An inch either way with those throws and the question of this weeks starter doesn’t even come up. As I said, he had luck.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:44 am
Raiders getting some love from Florio !!??
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
Raiders 52 Chiefs 17
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:46 am
As I said, he had luck.
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didn’t Cable say that good teams make their own breaks?
doesn’t sound like he’s ragging on JCamp too much for those throws
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Lucky this , lucky that.Campbell did what he had to do……..
just win baby.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:41 am
BSJ,
do you remember that children’s book JaWalrus goes to Washington DC?
you said something about it being racist, but it was based upon a true story…
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Don’t recall.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:52 am
Don’t recall.
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JaWalrus provides Shanny with hope & change …
still nothing?
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Campbell has been a lackluster 1st round draft pick. That is fact. Bruce vs. Jason is all conjecture.
Even if Campbell takes over (and if he can duplicate his performance from Sunday the rest of the season, I’m all for it) I like that Cable isn’t handing him anything.
Grads worked hard last year and in the offseason this year and earned the trust of the team and Cable.
If anything, it serves as motivation and the competition level at QB hasn’t been higher in YEARS.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
Grads more accurate passer than jc?!?!? Im sorry the career numbers say otherwise. Yard per pass attempt dont make the qb, if that were the case jeff george and jay shroeder would be considered great qbs.
The raiders have scored on two deep passes with jc, he hit n miller deep twice( miller tried to catch one with his face) and Dhb had his best dsy as a pro with jc. Dhb would have had another deep one from jc but the corner made a great play. I dont think its about who think it is all about who throws down field, although campbell has clearly done a better job in that catagory as well.
Its about wins, turn overs, and production. Clearly soup has something cooking with dhb, and all of the pass catchers. Every active player that was eligible to catch a pass was targeted on sunday, this will not go unoticed.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am
11. Oakland Raiders (No. 24; 4-4): With 92 points in two games, the Raiders could have a shot at beating the Golden State Warriors.
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LMAO! Break up the Dubs!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
Time for some dinner….
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:55 am
I know Cable’s past pressers have been a disaster, but I think he’s really learning to master them.
Keep fanning flames, big guy. Loper – back up. N. Miller – back up. J Campbell – back up.
These are guys who Cable liked enough to keep around and I’m sure he’s just trying to give them a push in the right direction.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
if he can duplicate his performance from Sunday the rest of the season, I’m all for it
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LA,
you’re expecting JCamp to throw for 300+ yards and 2 TD’s with no turnovers every week?
dang man!
a win is a win in my book. whether it’s 150 yards and 1 TD or 400 yards and 3 TD’s
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
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JaWalrus provides Shanny with hope & change …
still nothing?
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You can keep your hope, I’ll keep my change.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
Its about wins, turn overs, and production. Clearly soup has something cooking with dhb
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LOL, Mistic is money today
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
JR to Washington, huh? Looks like I just became a Skins fan too. I thought Minnesota, Dallas or Cincy would be better choices with the weapons those teams have outside, but all have unstable coaching situations. Washington is a great opportunity for him. It would give him his best opportunity to start the way things are going with McNabb and Shanny.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:59 am
LA,
you’re expecting JCamp to throw for 300+ yards and 2 TD’s with no turnovers every week?
dang man!
a win is a win in my book. whether it’s 150 yards and 1 TD or 400 yards and 3 TD’s
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No, not at all. When I say duplicate performance, I mean don’t turn the ball over, be decisive, be accurate, and fit the ball into some tight windows when need be. And get the deep ball going. He’s done a bit more of that here in the last two weeks.
Not talking numbers per se.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
JR to Washington, huh? Looks like I just became a Skins fan too.
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LOL @ Debo!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
JR to Washington, huh? Looks like I just became a Skins fan too. I thought Minnesota, Dallas or Cincy would be better choices with the weapons those teams have outside, but all have unstable coaching situations. Washington is a great opportunity for him. It would give him his best opportunity to start the way things are going with McNabb and Shanny.
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LOL @ Shanahan looking for Russell to ‘pick up the tempo in practice.’
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:59 am
LA,
you’re expecting JCamp to throw for 300+ yards and 2 TD’s with no turnovers every week?
dang man!
a win is a win in my book. whether it’s 150 yards and 1 TD or 400 yards and 3 TD’s
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No, not at all. When I say duplicate performance, I mean don’t turn the ball over, be decisive, be accurate, and fit the ball into some tight windows when need be. And get the deep ball going. He’s done a bit more of that here in the last two weeks.
Not talking numbers per se.
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Agree….only stats that matter are “W’s”
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 am
Nah, I think Shanahan is looking for some purple drank!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 am
IMO, Shanahan is just trying to get McNabb fired up.
“What, he’s talking to WHO?? JaMarcus Russell, the biggest clown of all time in the NFL? Sheeeeit, all show him this Sunday who’s the man.”
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
I hope Russell & Moss get the chance to play together in Washington …
JFB predicted that team to make the playoffs
I picked Chicago
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
With Favre hurt, why not Jamarcus to the Viqueens?
Perfect color unis for him.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
Thec07 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/02/week-eight-power-rankings/
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA eat that haters….
Dang 10th in the power rankings? Florio give us way too much credit, we haven’t earned that yet…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
I dont think its about who think it is all about who throws down field,
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the question that I asked was really directed to the blog for talking peuposes only. Something else to discuss.
Clearly some indivdual poster who were at the game that JCAMPBELL missed a lot of open Wr’s downfield….
My allegiance is to the Raider NATION, I am not for one player or the other, I am for whomever gives us the best chance to win….
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
Jimbo.LOL!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:04 am
Shanahan is just trying to get McNabb fired up.
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benching him for Rex Grossman wasn’t a big enough slap in the face?
bringing JaWalrus in the compete for the job would be like telling Donovan that he sucks worse than Charlie Frye & JP Losman
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
Question, Which QB is better at not missing open targets?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
The ladt two weks we have seen jc stand in the pocket stare down the rush and deliver strikes. Grads has yet to prove he can sit in the pocket go through his reads, make good decisions and be accurate. Grads doesnt have a side arm delivery because he thinks its stylish, he must change his throwing angles to find passing lanes, this is why he bails from the pocket. He needs to get out so he can see. Jc on the other ha d has been mobile in the pocket, sliding left or right, either throwing down field to our guys, in the flat ( the unfairly and ignorantly hated check down), or throwing it away. He also had taken off tp run when needed picking up first downs or avoiding sacks, im afraid grads fans can no longer hang their hats on mobility either.
Grads come back, when ever it happens will be short lived.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:06 am
Which QB is better at not missing open targets?
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Thec,
can I beat that dead horse when you’re done with it ???
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:06 am
What does out success mean to the outside world? You may want to see this and ask yourself…..
http://bit.ly/ajH9E9
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
Which QB is better at not missing open WR’s downfield?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
If Tom Cable was smart he would go with Jason Campbell as long as he is plays proficient. Because if he starts Bruce Gradkowski and Bruce fails he will lose that locker room. A lot of the players would be saying why did we made a change at quarterback when we had momentum.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:09 am
why not Jamarcus to the Viqueens?
Perfect color unis for him
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Tarvaris Jackson has been waiting how many years?
bringing in JaDrankus might cause another love boat scandal!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings_boat_party_scandal
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:06 am
Which QB is better at not missing open targets?
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Thec,
can I beat that dead horse when you’re done with it ???
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You are a grown man right???
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
You are a grown man right???
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is that a yes?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
RaiderReggie Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
If Tom Cable was smart he would go with Jason Campbell as long as he is plays proficient. Because if he starts Bruce Gradkowski and Bruce fails he will lose that locker room. A lot of the players would be saying why did we made a change at quarterback when we had momentum.
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At the risk of losing the locker room and messing up a good thing, why take the chance?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
You are a grown man right???
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is that a yes?
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I am not sure with some of the ISH you post…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
Note to the xenophobes: Once again it was a Muslim who foiled a major terrorist attack.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/1102/Who-saved-the-day-in-Yemen-bomb-plot-Once-again-a-Muslim
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
Note to the xenophobes: Once again it was a Muslim who foiled a major terrorist attack.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/1102/Who-saved-the-day-in-Yemen-bomb-plot-Once-again-a-Muslim
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Propaganda….
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Have we ever held a lead at halftime of a game that Gradkowdki started?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:17 am
Looking back, we can all now see that the problem was initiated by the benching of Campbell. The reasons why have been well documented here but let’s go over one more time. If didn’t bench Campbell his poor play may have left us high n dry once again. Cable gets fired, Campbell stinks up the place and Grads says “Told you so”. You now got two disgruntled QB’s, another coach (again) and no (high) first round pick.
But by benching Campbell he has created the problem because JC is beginning to look comfortable, something that might have happened anyway.
It’s all ‘what if’ with Grads because of injuries. We’ll never really know.
But I know Campbell has won two in a row.
As I said earlier, its Cable’s call (I think).
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
No way Cable is going to lose the locker room over either QB. The team knows the can both play if healthy.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Have we ever held a lead at halftime of a game that Gradkowdki started?
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Be careful, this is beating a dead horse..
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 am
So Shanahan thinks his QB doesn’t know the offense, doesn’t practice hard and is out of shape. His solution is work out JaMarcus Russell?!
LMFAO
His hatred of Davis must be all consuming
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
No way Cable is going to lose the locker room over either QB. The team knows the can both play if healthy.
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Grads comes in starts they lose, could be a head scratcher…Campbell goes back in and wins….
Every game is important as this team has the potential to make the playoffs…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
Merriman goes on waivers if he passes his physical today.
What do you think? Put in a claim? I lean towards no.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:22 am
I am not sure with some of the ISH you post…
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you posted the same question 10 times this morning man
it wasn’t even your question to begin with.
if you’re trying to stir up a rally for a certain QB, do it. nobody is shy about which QB they prefer, if they do care for one particular guy
watching the same question go by so many times without a response is about as worthless as the political attack commercials – give it a rest
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:22 am
Agreed, Bo. So far Cable has made all the right calls. Unfortunately, it’s the next one that will really decide the immediate future of this team.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:25 am
Merriman goes on waivers if he passes his physical today.
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really?
I thought they placed him on I.R. which means he’s done for the season?
did they come up with an injury settlement or waive him from the injured list like we did to Jonathan Holland?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 am
RRS,
They put him on IR with “minor injury designation.” League rules say that if a player is given that tag, he must be released upon passing a physical
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 am
Morning peoples!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 am
So Shanahan thinks his QB doesn’t know the offense, doesn’t practice hard and is out of shape. His solution is work out JaMarcus Russell?!
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PA, thats what I was thinking. haha!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Fk Merriroids! He’s garbage.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
Mike Shanahan’s solution to a headache is to beat yourself in the skull with a sledgehammer.
I wonder if his wife stopped putting out if he’d try to hit on a nun as a solution?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
JaMarcus is unmatched in the two minute drill. I think his record is 7 Whoppers w/cheese.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
I like Bruce, but we have to roll w/ the QB that has won his last two starts.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
They put him on IR with “minor injury designation.” League rules say that if a player is given that tag, he must be released upon passing a physical
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I’ve never heard of such a thing!
cool …
might be a good signing?
he could have an extra week to work with the players & staff during the bye. You know he’d have a monster game against SD!
Question is, how much do they love Groves at WLB?
I assume we’d waive Bruce Davis and that makes Groves just a ST guy
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:22 am
I am not sure with some of the ISH you post…
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you posted the same question 10 times this morning man
it wasn’t even your question to begin with.
if you’re trying to stir up a rally for a certain QB, do it. nobody is shy about which QB they prefer, if they do care for one particular guy
watching the same question go by so many times without a response is about as worthless as the political attack commercials – give it a rest
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First off, neither you or anyone else short of jerry banning me will ever control what I post.
Second as you put it, “it wasnt my question anyway” dud you were not even in the conversation the day before when we were talking about campbell missing Wr’s down the field…
Thirdly, I just wanted to see what guys who had a favorite QB thought. If you read the post which I doubt you would see that my allegiance is not to a particular QB…I am on record with liking both, ans to me both are stand up guys….
didnt post the question ten times, and it did draw a couple of responses…
If you have a problem with what I post dont respond, and keep it moving….
As far as givning it a rest please see first comment…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Fk Merriroids! He’s garbage.
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That’s what I tend to think. The only reason I’d even consider it is because I’m not sold on Quentin Groves at weakside linebacker.
But Merriman’s played his whole career in a 3-4, so I don’t even know how quick he could transition to a 4-3.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Dear Mr. Shanahrat,
Please oh please do sign Jawalrus.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
I’m thinking of changing my name to “ReaganRaider”
Thoughts?
inb4 “same thing”
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
JaMarcus is unmatched in the two minute drill. I think his record is 7 Whoppers w/cheese.
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L-O-fing-L. BSJ wins the day.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
mornin’ nation
in the last press conference, cable didn’t say grad was the starter, when he was asked did he know who the atarter was he said yes we knows who the starter is, and he had a funny grin on his face.. it is a smoke screen. kc must game plan for both…
not taking sides, i want the best player to start.. don’t you think grads is kinda fragile??
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
campbell missing Wr’s down the field
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you answered your own question!
good job man!
see? that was easy…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Can Merriman longsnap? Gawd I hope so…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:33 am
might be a good signing?
he could have an extra week to work with the players & staff during the bye. You know he’d have a monster game against SD!
Question is, how much do they love Groves at WLB?
I assume we’d waive Bruce Davis and that makes Groves just a ST guy
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I think Davis would be gone and Groves would go ST, yes. If it were to happen.
I honestly don’t love Groves at weakside ‘backer at all. But then I’m not a coach, so my opinion doesn’t matter.
Don’t even know if the coaches opinions would matter; when it comes to personnel, there’s only one man’s thoughts that make a difference.
Like I said, though, it’s a different animal playing 3-4 OLB and 4-3 OLB. Don’t know how quick Merriman could transition.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Attention all bloggers make sure you get RaiderRockstars approval before you post anything on this blog…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
AIG,
I think your kicker and Defense are on a bye this week …
you might want to hit up FF early and check on it since there is NO WAIVERS in my league.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
RedneckRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
I’m thinking of changing my name to “ReaganRaider”
Thoughts?
inb4 “same thing”
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Even better- gonna go with RonPaulRaider
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
RedneckRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
I’m thinking of changing my name to “ReaganRaider”
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Good idea, as long as every post you contribute is based on astrology.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
Attention all bloggers make sure you get RaiderRockstars approval before you post anything on this blog…
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LOL!
just doing my job to make the world a safer place
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
Fk Merriroids! He’s garbage.
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That’s what I tend to think. The only reason I’d even consider it is because I’m not sold on Quentin Groves at weakside linebacker.
But Merriman’s played his whole career in a 3-4, so I don’t even know how quick he could transition to a 4-3.
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I don’t know SilverPA. Merriroids hasn’t shown much to me ever since the juicing incident and his injuries. Has Q. been that bad? I think he’s been ok. Not spectacular, but not garbage. If the D continues to play the way they have, there’s no need for a Merriroids.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
The coaches, players and team is developing good chemistry finally.
Moss would destroy that….no thanks to that piece of crap coming here.
That fools act is old and tired!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Ok. It’s official.
RonPaulRaider = RedneckRaider
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
I want to know why Cable doesn’t start Matt Shaugnessy over Trevor Scott. Matt has better stats than Trevor as a back-up.
Solo Tackles Sacks Fumble Recovery
Matt: 20 5 1
Trevor: 11 1/2 0
You do the math.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
campbell missing Wr’s down the field
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you answered your own question!
good job man!
see? that was easy…
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Thanks for playing… In the future when you post I will keep it moving, you pull me into your silly SH!T expect me to respond…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
RonPaulRaider = RedneckRaider
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I liked Redneck better!
oh well
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 am
RRS, taken care of.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
RonPaulRaider = RedneckRaider
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I liked Redneck better!
oh well
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I’ll probably change it back tomorrow; it’s election day, just feeling political
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
Attention all bloggers make sure you get RaiderRockstars approval before you post anything on this blog…
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LOL!
just doing my job to make the world a safer place
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In your dreams you have that kind of clout….
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
RRS, I cant believe I beat somebody last weekend. I thought my roster sucked!!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
Thanks for playing… In the future when you post I will keep it moving
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you’re welcome. have a nice day bro
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
I’m an A’s fan thru and thru, but I have some family and friends that are Giant fans and Congrats to the SF Giants and their fans for FINALLY winning a title!
They earned it!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
Thec, take a deep breath and focus on our 1000+ yards of offense in the last 2 weeks…
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
“I play when I want to play.” -Randy Moss
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
I cant believe I beat somebody last weekend. I thought my roster sucked!!!!
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AIG,
sweet! see man? Any Given Sunday
don’t quit. not sure how many games you could have won with 6 total points from both QB’s, but at least now you’ve got some options. I think either Alex Smith or Bruce Grads will start again soon, so you might as well keep them around unless you see somebody better in FA or make another trade – to be honest I haven’t looked there this morning
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
Shanarat called McNabb lazy and fat.
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Probably minutes after getting off the phone with Russell to make sure he caught his flight to the Capitol.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Seriously, can Merriman longsnap?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
# DKnight007 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
I’m an A’s fan thru and thru, but I have some family and friends that are Giant fans and Congrats to the SF Giants and their fans for FINALLY winning a title!
They earned it!
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Yeah, I’m an A’s fan too, but congratulations to the Giants and their fans. Just remember they have 3 more titles to catch up to Oakland.
Go A’s!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Seriously, can Merriman longsnap?
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Jay Alford was the backup DT & long snapper
Cable sent him packing though as soon as Seymour’s hammy had healed and Jon Condo got the Commitment to Excellence Award
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Randy moss = Pito
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
Randy Moss = Tranny
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
maybe Moss should go to Cincy where the other egos are.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
AIG,
I thought Dallas Clark’s backup was Brody Eldridge, but it turned out to be Justin Tamme instead and Midwest snagged him during the Colts game last night!
I checked in during the 4th quarter and he was already taken from the FA pool. LOL!
gotta be quick with these guys man, they are a blood thirsty bunch
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
merriman, no thanks. Off the juice he is just another knuckle head, that cant avoid the back seat of a cop car. I think out lb play has been outstanding going back to the last couple of weeks.
Moss now is in a position where his production is over shadowed by his selfishness and lack of effort. Great players can sometimes turn back the clock, but it requires a maximum effort when your natural gifts are on the decline. moss isnt even a minimal effort guy. he is a malcontented front runner that “plays when i want to play”. that simply isnt good enough when your production has slipped so visibly.
You put up with the antics of a farve or t.o. because you know on the field they will give you everything they have, moss isnt that guy. he is finished.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
Merriman has sucked balls since he got off the juice. He also can’t stay healthy. No “knuckleheads” needs to be adhered to with this one.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
AIG,
I thought Dallas Clark’s backup was Brody Eldridge, but it turned out to be Justin Tamme instead and Midwest snagged him during the Colts game last night!
I checked in during the 4th quarter and he was already taken from the FA pool. LOL!
gotta be quick with these guys man, they are a blood thirsty bunch
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He was gone within an hour of the Dallas Clark news last week. You gotta be fast!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
To all the Raider fans saying that it is too expensive to go to the game, check this out…
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Tickets cost $36.
Go to the DAMN GAME!!!!!!!!!!
Raider Nation!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:57 am
RRS, I tried to pick those guys up on Sunday nite and it kept on telling me something about pending so i gave up. Nevertheless I have Bruce Grad and Freeman now. My roster is looking a lot better. Bruce will put up great numbers you watch.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Go to the DAMN GAME!!!!!!!!!!
Raider Nation!!
^^^^^^^^^^
I would if I lived in California!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Moss to Oakland might just work. I think Old Al and Cable sits Moss down to have a meeting about what they expect out of him, in a room with a 20×20 police report picture of Randy Hanson in the background behind Al and Cable.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
Congratulations sf giant fans, you finally won your 1st world series, welcome to major league baseball! And it only took you 56 years to do it! hey maybe in another 168 years you might win another three and qualify to be mentioned in the same breath as the greatness that is my beloved green gold! You have now graduated from baseball nobodies, into second bananas , and are worthy of the title oakland’s little sisters! by the way thanks for handling our light weights , those pathetic texas rangers.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 am
504 Raider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Moss to Oakland might just work. I think Old Al and Cable sits Moss down to have a meeting about what they expect out of him, in a room with a 20×20 police report picture of Randy Hanson in the background behind Al and Cable.
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Show Randy some episodes of “Locked up – Oakland”. that will scare him straight.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
Congratulations sf giant fans, you finally won your 1st world series, welcome to major league baseball! And it only took you 56 years to do it! hey maybe in another 168 years you might win another three and qualify to be mentioned in the same breath as the greatness that is my beloved green gold! You have now graduated from baseball nobodies, into second bananas , and are worthy of the title oakland’s little sisters! by the way thanks for handling our light weights , those pathetic texas rangers.
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LMAO Mistic
Well said venom
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
really?
I thought they placed him on I.R. which means he’s done for the season?
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Merriman was not placed on Injured Reserve. He was placed on the Reserved Injured list (Im not making this up) which means SD is required to release him when he passes his physical. Had they put him on IR then yes he would be done for the year.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 am
Bruce: 19 of 32 for 265 yards and 2 TDs
DHB: 4 catches for 70 yards and 1 TD
DMac: 20 carries for 91 yards and 1 TD.
Seymour, Wimbley, Kelly, Shaughnessy, RoMac = 1 sack each
GALLONS OF KOOl-AID FOR EVERYONE
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
Moss now is in a position where his production is over shadowed by his selfishness and lack of effort. Great players can sometimes turn back the clock, but it requires a maximum effort when your natural gifts are on the decline. moss isnt even a minimal effort guy. he is a malcontented front runner that “plays when i want to play”. that simply isnt good enough when your production has slipped so visibly.
You put up with the antics of a farve or t.o. because you know on the field they will give you everything they have, moss isnt that guy. he is finished.
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Moss’s targets have reduced as much as his production. I guarantee you Moss can still beat any corner in the game on the go-route. Problem with Randy is and always has been his route running ability. Or basically the fact that he cant run routes.
Oh and TO gives you everything he has huh… Ask Palmer how he feels on that. TO short armed an easy catch to avoid contact on sunday which caused the game sealing INT.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
http://www.examiner.com/high-school-sports-in-columbia-mo/nfl-power-rankings-week-9
Closest thing to Power Rankings that I agree with… at least until after this weeks Raiders-KC game…
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:12 am
Merriman was not placed on Injured Reserve. He was placed on the Reserved Injured list (Im not making this up) which means SD is required to release him when he passes his physical. Had they put him on IR then yes he would be done for the year.
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BCZ, thanks for clearing that up
do you think we should be interested?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:13 am
Former Riaders QB Russell works out for Redskins..
Mornin NATION.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Nevertheless I have Bruce Grad and Freeman now. My roster is looking a lot better. Bruce will put up great numbers you watch.
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AIG,
I’m rooting for you brother.
Do you think Bruce will start this week or after the bye?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
I’d love to have been in the Vikings warroom discussing cutting Randy freaking Moss. How do you have the balls to make that move after 4 weeks and a lost 3rd round pick? How do you face the public after that? Is there any kind of spin that can explain their actions? “Oh, we wanted to do this. You see, it was all part of our plan. You will see how it all ends, and you’ll agree it was a good plan.”
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
What’s worse? Losing a third round pick or drafting Bowie and then cutting him?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
I wish JaWalrus & Moss would both sign with SF
that would be hilarious!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
What’s worse? Losing a third round pick or drafting Bowie and then cutting him?
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At least Bowie was a 4th rounder!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
looks like LBs Howard and Goethel return this week
1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to Oklandraida84
Vittorio Tafur
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
And Big AL blew that pick on Bowie. I think it was karma. It wasn’t meant to be. But he’s done pretty good with recent 4th rounders, it must be said.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston reports that the Redskins will work out free agent QB JaMarcus Russell Tuesday.
Russell has been spotted at the Redskins’ practice facility, so it sounds like the report is legit. The Redskins are the first team to show any interest in the former No. 1 overall pick since he was cut loose by the Raiders. Russell, who has been working out in Houston with hopes of catching on with an NFL team, just had codeine possession charges dropped last week, so it’s possible the ‘Skins were just waiting for the quarterback’s legal issues to be behind him. Stay tuned.
Source: MyFOXHouston.com
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
bcz24 Says:
Oh and TO gives you everything he has huh… Ask Palmer how he feels on that. TO short armed an easy catch to avoid contact on sunday which caused the game sealing INT.
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Im strictly noting the perception, reality doesn’t always match.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
If Russell was working out in H-Town. There’s noway he’s off the sizzurp!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
So a high ankle sprain is worse, than a low ankle sprain?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Okay, you X’s & O’s guys…
With Nnamdi out, what is CB rotation gonna look like this weekend?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
So a high ankle sprain is worse, than a low ankle sprain?
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yes, much worse….usually needs minimum of 6 weeks.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:25 am
I wouldnt be interested. Look at all Merrimans injuries. They are all muscle or tendon injuries. Thats what happens when you get off the juice. Your body no longer produces enough testosterone, which causes muscle atrophy.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
High ankle sprain normally means damaged or torn tendons or ligaments. These take a few weeks to heal, rather than a few days.
I actually think our guys can handle kc and their weak passing game with out him. We will be in trouble vs. pitt if he cant go.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 am
The Redskins are the first team to show any interest in the former No. 1 overall pick since he was cut loose by the Raiders.
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Not entirely true. At least 2 teams offered him Danny Southwick style intern positions for a year to see if he could stay focused in meetings and practice, and also to be sure he could stay in shape. He, of course, refused.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
It’s pretty simple this Sunday.
We contain the run against KC, and we win!
KC’s D is solid, but I have confidence in our Offense to put up scores.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
Jimbo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Okay, you X’s & O’s guys…
With Nnamdi out, what is CB rotation gonna look like this weekend?
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I dunno if I’d call myself and X’s and O’s guys, but I’d guess it’d be CJ and Routt starting with Jeremy Ware as nickel back and Walter McFadden as dime corner.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
Jimbo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:14 am
I’d love to have been in the Vikings warroom discussing cutting Randy freaking Moss. How do you have the balls to make that move after 4 weeks and a lost 3rd round pick? How do you face the public after that? Is there any kind of spin that can explain their actions? “Oh, we wanted to do this. You see, it was all part of our plan. You will see how it all ends, and you’ll agree it was a good plan.”
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All the can do is take the high road. They cut their losses before he became too toxic and derailed any hope they had to put a season together (they have hope still, the rest of us know its BS)
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
Jimbo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Okay, you X’s & O’s guys…
With Nnamdi out, what is CB rotation gonna look like this weekend?
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I dunno if I’d call myself and X’s and O’s guys, but I’d guess it’d be CJ and Routt starting with Jeremy Ware as nickel back and Walter McFadden as dime corner.
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Exactly. But instead of Mcfadden, I think we’ll continue to see MM on the field.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
RAIDERS QB Jason Campbell has been nominated for FedEx Air NFL Player of the Week. http://www.nfl.com/fedex. Vote now!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 am
Kc’s defense is a sham. This team can be exploited in the pass game, this is why teams dont run against them as much. They are decent up the gut on the d-line but they can be beat up on the edges. also late in games you can get to the interior of the d-line because they have fat guys in the middle, and after dorsey there is a big drop off. Pass early and often, run to keep them honest, hammer them in the second half with our rb trio.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
I actually see why Shanarat would want to be the guy to “resurrect” Jamarshmallow. Ultimate FU to Al Davis man. No better revenge than to take the biggest bust in history and make him a star. Not saying he could do it… just saying i see why he would want to try.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:37 am
I think I underestimated Marcel Reece speed. I knew he had good hands, but didn’t know he had that breakaway speed. I think he our version of Delanie Walker, but he’s playing FB for us. Great job Hue. Keep finding ways to get the ball in Marcel’s hands.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Russell to work out for Shanahan? Not sure if that would work…but then again…another way to screw Big Al…
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 am
DMAC Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston reports that the Redskins will work out free agent QB JaMarcus Russell Tuesday.
Russell has been spotted at the Redskins’ practice facility, so it sounds like the report is legit. The Redskins are the first team to show any interest in the former No. 1 overall pick since he was cut loose by the Raiders. Russell, who has been working out in Houston with hopes of catching on with an NFL team, just had codeine possession charges dropped last week, so it’s possible the ‘Skins were just waiting for the quarterback’s legal issues to be behind him. Stay tuned.
Source: MyFOXHouston.com
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So let me guess, Shanarat is going to motivate Jameatloaf with there hate for the Raiders. They can go back and forth with stories like Shanny not getting the rest of his $$ from Al, Then Russell will be like yeah I know Al has some nerve he’s trying to extract 10 mill from my wallet. we’ll show them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We will be the best coach/QB combo ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
Good luck with that Shanny LMAO!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:46 am
Screw Moss!
This TEAM doesn’t need that clown!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:46 am
CJ and Routt starting with Jeremy Ware as nickel back and Walter McFadden as dime corner.
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Exactly. But instead of Mcfadden, I think we’ll continue to see MM on the field.
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Agreed with PA & DMAC.
Mike Mitchell needs to be out there covering Moeaki
If that means Huff on a WR and Branch down in the box?
GOOD!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
When you look at the other coaches in the league. The Dallas coach that is clueless and mutters in his postgame pressers, the Vikings coach that begs like a hungry puppy for Favre to approve of him, and Shanarat who alienates the star QB they went at in the offseason. Then you look at our fat monkey coach, and he aint so bad. you know, by comparison, I mean.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
Then you look at our fat monkey coach, and he aint so bad. you know, by comparison, I mean.
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Winning is the universal cure for all that ails ya…
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 am
I wish JaWalrus & Moss would both sign with SF
that would be hilarious!
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LOL!
Russell – “Receivers aren’t making plays for me”
Moss – “Why run my routes when the passes are in the dirt”
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 am
504 Raider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Moss to Oakland might just work. I think Old Al and Cable sits Moss down to have a meeting about what they expect out of him, in a room with a 20×20 police report picture of Randy Hanson in the background behind Al and Cable.
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LMFAO!!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 am
what the hell is going on in dc?!?!?
I hope Russel can pull it together and resurrect his career, shake the tag of biggest bust of all time and stay off the dope. I am pissed with him as a fan, but i am rooting for him as man. he would be in nfc, we wont have to play him, but if we do i want us to kick his a$$.
Mcnabb is a great player but he is near the end. unfortunately for him the problem is he has never been a workout warrior. When you are on the decline, you need something besides talent in order to stay on the field and have an impact. case and point warren sapp was a slob, once his production dropped off, we dropped him off at the buffet. on the flip side guys like tim brown rice, rod woodson, were able to play and contribute well past there prime because they took care of their bodies.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
Why hasn’t the chat started?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
Loooove seeing DMC continuing to shut you haters up….AGAIN! LOL
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 am
# RonPaulRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 am
Why hasn’t the chat started?
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Maybe he meant to say 12pm. He normally does it that time.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:00 am
So do I, DKnight. So do I.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:00 am
Congrats to the SF Giants and all their loyal fans! 6X World Series Champions, 1st for SF. Long time coming.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
11:00
[Comment From RedneckRaider]
I’ve seen NFL Power Rankings putting Oakland in a large range between 8-26. Where would you rank them? And immediately above/below which teams?
11:02
jerrymac: Chiefs aren’t a big passing team. More of a running team. Raiders have won games without Nnamdi before. Slow KC’s run and they can win, no doubt.
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Haha, got the first question in, but no answer….
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 am
Why do Raider fans want every single player on the planet who’s been cut by anyone? Don’t we have any discretion? LOL. Don’t we think there might, I dunno, a reason he was cut?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Randy Moss garners safety help which would do wonders for Zach Miller DMAC out of the backfield and whoever the WR is opposite him, just saying
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Giants suck. 1 world series in how many years in the bay? A’s have 4. Eat it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Inone, do you not even want to know why Minnesota cut him?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Shanny can hold a grudge as well (and as long) as AD, it appears. Good luck with that one.
On another note, I think it would be a mistake to underrate KC’s defense. Crennell has those guys blitzing like crazy and the young guys up front are playing very well for him. Hopefully we can stay out of third and long, because if we don’t there’s going to be some serious pressure on Campbell.
Stop the run, protect the passer and control their return game. If we do that we can win.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
I put the Raiders at 28 in my own power rankings. I factor upper management into my rankings.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
I put the Raiders at 28 in my own power rankings. I factor upper management into my rankings.
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No one cares how you feel about the team. We all are aware that it tears you apart that we won a couple of games.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Just say NO to Randy Moss. I still remember him half-azzing it here years ago.
Altough, If he were to play the decoy position, maybe half-azzing Randy is better than all out DHB….hmmmm
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 am
I put RMR at the bottom of my fan rankings. I factor in intelligence into my rankings.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 am
You care so little you responded, right? LOL. brutha please. I factor upper management into my power rankings. I don’t think I could ever put the Raiders above 25, unless they have a winning season.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Deep within the bowels of the Legion of Doom (Oakland Raiders Headquarters – Alameda, CA), the Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black receives some unexpected news.
Herrera: Mr. Davis, Shanahan is working out JaMarcus Russell!!
Al: What?? That BASTARD! He knew full well that I’d make him my next reclamation project in the offeseason. Nobody’s reclamated their own bust, Hererrea. This is part of the Greatness of the Raidahs!
Herrera: Yes, sir. I’ve always admired your steadfast steel resolve and one day I hope that I can–
Al: Get Russell on the phone, imbecile – and get him here NOW.
Herrera: Yes, Mr. Davis!
Meanwhile, in the Ashburn, Virgina offices of Washington Redskins Head Coach Mike Shanahan, a frenzied young assistant barges in – interrupting a meeting with former number one overall pick JaMarcus Russell.
Assistant: Sorry, sir – uh, am I interrupting–
Shanahan: No, not at all. JaMarcus here was just, um… entertaining himself. He just loves those pop up books. Let’s talk outside. Excuse us, JaMarcus.
Russell: Yeah, no problem.
A wide-eyed Russel continues be hypnotized by the three-dimensional beauty of Bubbles the Magic Rabbit as he turns another page.
Once outside…
Assistant: Sir, Al Davis just called and is willing to offer a 2012 1st rounder or this year’s 2nd or 3rd, Nnamdi A-Aso-awsomoogya — whatever you want for a sign-and-trade deal for Russell. The nerve of that cantankerous old windbag, I can’t belie–
Shanahan: All is going according to plan, young man.
Assistant: Sir?
Shanahan: You think I’d really sign that oaf? Look at him…
Shanahan opens the door a crack and the two see Russell reading a playbook upside down, scratching his head as if he’d never seen anything like it before.
Assistant: So, what does he think he’s here for?
Shanahan: Good ol’ fashioned Virginia barbeque, son. Oh, and some “Kool Aid.”
Assistant: But…
Shanahan: You’ll see, kid.
Assistant: I see, sir. Yeah, I get it. Boy, I sure do admire the way you–
Shanahan: Get me a cup of coffe, will ya, kid? And tell McNabb who we’ve got here in the building. he’ll be practicing at 150 miles an hour the rest of the year.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
You have no basis to judge my intelligence. I’m right more than anyone in here regarding the Raiders. If I’m dumb when it comes to prognosticating football, my goodness imagine where that puts some of you…
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 am
Inone, do you not even want to know why Minnesota cut him?
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RMR, Randy did not like what Chilly was cooking.
As the proprietors helped serve chicken, ribs, pasta and other dishes to Vikings players, Moss paced up and down the serving line and loudly expressed his displeasure with the offerings.
According to one player who witnessed the scene, Moss yelled, “What the [expletive]? Who ordered this crap? I wouldn’t feed this to my dog!”
When Childress, according to one person in Monday’s meeting, said of Moss, “This just doesn’t fit with how we treat people, how we talk to people and how we act,” it was clear that he was referring to the incident that occurred last Friday.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
I’ve gotta run, but I was wondering if somebody could ask Jerry what happened to his Attendance Study he was conducting?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
Official attendance of Sunday’s game is 74.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
coffee*
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
364.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 am
I put the Raiders at 28 in my own power rankings. I factor upper management into my rankings.
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So who rounds out the bottom 4?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
Man, I gotta hit the spell check more often.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 am
RMR, didn’t you predict 4 wins for the Raiders this year? I rest my case.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
Is that a confession that Raiders management is amongst the worst in the game, Raccoon?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 am
I think I predicted 5, but you can look it up. Might have been 4. Do you need to pick the exact price to win on the Price Is Right? Whoever’s closest wins.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Raiders don’t follow up on big wins.
Seattle 28
Raiders 27
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Saint, the Raiders don’t follow up on big wins. Gotta say no. Think we’ll put some points on the board, though.
28-27, Seattle.
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You are the master predictor?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Wow. One week. I’ll spot you my misfire on the Denver game, too, while we’re at it. I’ve been commenting here for a few years, guys. And I don’t think there’s anyone in here who’s been right as much as me. That’s why you guys hate me so much, don’t forget. Because I speak the truth and spits hot fire about this team.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 am
jerrymac: Chiefs aren’t a big passing team. More of a running team. Raiders have won games without Nnamdi before. Slow KC’s run and they can win, no doubt.
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Agreed!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
[Comment From Plunketthead: ]
How is Al doing? I bet his spirits are up.
11:27 jerrymac: they should be.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
MR, what would make you happier, a winning Raider season where you have no ammunition or a losing one where you get to play ‘told you so’?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
You’re trying to make the discussion about me, LA to the Bay, and it’s not going to work. I’m only here to discuss the Raiders, and maybe a little politics on the sizide.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
That’s why you guys hate me so much, don’t forget.
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Nope. We hate you because we are all Raiders fans and you are not. You spin and twist everything we say to bend to your views. I have proven you wrong numerous times and you refuse to admit it when it happens. You attempt to trivialize it, like if we prove you wrong it doesnt matter, but if you prove us wrong you proved who killed JFK. You are childish and annoying. I unfortunately read almost every post when I am online so I get stuck reading your drivel when we are both on at the same time.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
Shanahan: Good ol’ fashioned Virginia barbeque, son. Oh, and some “Kool Aid.”
hahahaha Shanarat is devious
Nice job LA
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
[Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Can Shane Merriman long snap? Condo continues to be a one trick pony…
jerrymac: And when was the last time you saw a bad snap?
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LOL!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
bcz24 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
Nope. We hate you because we are all Raiders fans and you are not.
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That’s called misguided hate. Because I am a Raider fan.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
You hate the truth, bcz24. And you’d prefer I didn’t talk about it. That’s why you hate me too. You hate the truth, and all that’s associated with it, right up to those who speak it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
You’re killing the messenger.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
[Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Can Shane Merriman long snap? Condo continues to be a one trick pony…
jerrymac: And when was the last time you saw a bad snap?
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LOL!
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Freaking hilarious, good work Bo!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
That’s called misguided hate. Because I am a Raider fan.
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Right. You prove that everytime you post. You are a fan of the Raiders losing so you can say I told you so. Thats it. We win 2 games by a combined 75 points and you dont even show the slightest hint at being happy or excited.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
bcz24 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
Right. You prove that everytime you post.
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I do. Why do you think I want Al Davis to retire? It’s the only way the Raiders will win again. If I hated the Raiders, I’d want Al to stay forever.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
You’re trying to make the discussion about me, LA to the Bay, and it’s not going to work. I’m only here to discuss the Raiders, and maybe a little politics on the sizide.
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I am indeed. I’m just curious. I honeslty want to know if you root for the Raiders to win.
It was a question with 2 possible answers.
A) winning season – not as much sh;t to talk
B) losing season – plenty of it to go around
you chose
C) political answer
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
People who hate the Raiders and want to see the Raiders lose hope Al Davis NEVER dies, or retires, or even cedes control, bcz. They want Al in charge of the Raiders forever, because that would mean the Raiders would lose forever. You don’t see me wanting that.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
[Comment From DMACDMAC: ]
If the season ended this Sunday. Who’s your pro bowlers Jerry?
jerrymac:
If the season ended Sunday, I’d wonder why in the hell it ended after eight games and assume there wouldn’t be a Pro Bowl.
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Excellent deflection technique.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
LA to the Bay, your line of questioning is suspect to me. This is a Raiders blog, not a MaddenRaider blog. I’m going to discuss what’s on topic.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
Shanahan: Good ol’ fashioned Virginia barbeque, son. Oh, and some “Kool Aid.”
hahahaha Shanarat is devious
Nice job LA
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Thank you, sir.
Your Best Raider Fan Ever trophy is in the mail, my friend.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
So Jerry, would you say the team who plays the best Run-D wins on Sunday?
jerrymac: Sure looks like it should play out that way, No. 1 vs. No 2. in running game . . . make Cassel or Campbell carry the offense.
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NICE!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
MR,
You’ve never been shy about throwing your opinions around before. I already think I know the answer, I’m just wondering if you’ll answer it and be sincere.
If not, it’s all good.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
We have been good against the run the past 2 weeks. How do you think it’ll hold up this week
jerrymac: The acid test, isn’t it? Chiefs can really run it. thomas Jones as one of the year’s best FA acquisitions.
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STOP THE RUN = WIN THE GAME!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
No chance LA. No chance.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
Your attempt to make this discussion about me instead of Al Davis and the Raiders is a fail, LA to the Bay, and it is all good.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
For example, I’m on record as saying Campbell sucked in Washington and we should have known what we were in store for.
After the SF game, I was pretty sure I was correct, but I wasn’t happy about it.
If he blossoms into a succesful Raider, I will have been wrong and I will be happy about it (eating crow if you will).
That simple.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:45 am
Crash Bandicoat – nice post you are right! JC is more percise like an NFL QB. Puts the ball where it needs to be in ryhthm.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:45 am
oops Rythm.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:45 am
do you think the raiders are good enough to beat the chiefs?
jerrymac: the Chiefs are a much-improved team. They are not a powerhouse. Their record was built against teams with losing records _ and that’s OK _ you have to beat them still. Lord knows for the last seven years the Raiders haven’t, and neither has KC for the past couple.
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Interesting!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
Your chasing your philosophical tail, LA to the BAy. I stopped taking you seriously long ago.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
The truth is: We have 3 Lombardis and a rengade owner who assembles HIS team and wins HIS way. The last 7 years do not define this organization. We’re turning the corner and it’s killing you that we’re winning again with Al still in control.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
1. why is cable sooo insistant on grads starting? Why mess with cambell if he gets it done this week?
jerrymac: Why do you think Cable has the job he currently holds? Because of Bruce Gradkowski and the wins over Pittsburgh and Cincinati.
2. Hey Jerry …Who would be your starter at QB?
jerrymac: I’m OK with either guy because I don’t think either is `The guy’ in terms of being your all encompassing QB. AT this point, I think Campbell is healthy. Don’t want a QB with a bad shoulder. Ideally, I’d probably favor Campbell with Gradkowski as the bench guy if both were healthy and playing well.
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Thec, any thoughts?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
Chiefs 31, Raiders 13
That campaign for that 3rd straight win always seems to be the game that Al takes over. I see shades of going into San Diego in ‘07. Same scenario. And, I predict, same result.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:50 am
LTR Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am
The last 7 years do not define this organization.
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Yes, they do.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
What do the other 43 years account for? Were the Oakland Raiders an expansion team in 2003?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
im in the gate this weekend, just got my tix.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:53 am
Glad to see you’re alright.Thought you might of jumped off the American River bridge.Still miserable and hurting inside,huh!Don’t worry,they’ll lose again and you won’t have to hurt so bad.HAHAHAHAHA
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:53 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
Chiefs 31, Raiders 13
That campaign for that 3rd straight win always seems to be the game that Al takes over. I see shades of going into San Diego in ‘07. Same scenario. And, I predict, same result.
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RMR good to see the reasoning to your decision making. Good ole Al taking over shades of 07. Great stuff.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:53 am
Why is Ware starting over W.McFadden
jerrymac: Walter McFadden had hamstring issues through training camp and much of the regular season. Fell way behind.
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so he’s healthy, but not up to speed on Marshall’s playbook?
what has he been doing the last 8-10 weeks?
playing Madden at home on the couch?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
Raiders 27 Chiefs 7
We will expose the Chiefs to be what we thought they were! MR, get on board the Raider train. This time it’s for realz!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
You’re not predicting the Chiefs winning, you’re hoping for it. I will never consider you a fan.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
so he’s healthy, but not up to speed on Marshall’s playbook?
what has he been doing the last 8-10 weeks?
playing Madden at home on the couch?
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Attending practice is certainly not the same thing as practicing.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
Hes not fan… he will predict that we lose the bye week too.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
My predicition is a low scoring smashmouth slugfest. Raiders 16 Chiefs 10.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
i see alot of points from both teams raiders 31 cheefs 23
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Attending practice is certainly not the same thing as practicing.
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BCZ, thats fair
doesn’t 10 weeks seems like a long time to miss for a hammy pull though?
DMAC is a RB and he was only out 2 or 3!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
jerrymac: Goethel, Thomas Howard, Gradkowski, Murphy after the bye, those off the top of my head.
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what about John Henderson & Chazerella?
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
IF YOUR SISTER IS UGLY,AND I CALL HER UGLY,DONT GET MAD AT ME, I DIDNT MAKE HER THAT WAY. I AM JUST STATING FACTS.JUST BECAUSE RMR SAY’S THINGS ABOUT THE TEAM NOBODY WANTS 2 HEAR DOSENT MEAN HE IS NOT A FAN OR DISLIKES THE TEAM..JUST STATING HIS OPINION LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Q: Do you prefer guns or no guns?
A: Well, I think the matter needs careful thought and consideration. This is not about what I want, but what’s right for America.
5 minutes later, the question is never answered.
MR missed his calling. Should have been a poltician as opposed to a Semi Pro blogger in his mom’s basement.
I would vote for you, but I stopped taking you seriously long ago.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I agree with an earlier comment about punks having thieir way at games. But to go further, the coliseum and its surroundings aren’t a “family friendly” place. Normal hard working people that bring thier minivans full of kids don’t want to go to the coliseum. Even Al Davis has to see this huge flaw. Doesn’t Al see the mega fan friendly complexes in other cities?
jerrymac: Working on a story on Coliseum this week . . . if you are a season ticket holder, go to games and are seeing this stuff and are willing to be quoted, etc. drop me an e-mail at jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com . . . I’ll be honest. I’ve never thought the Coliseum was all that scary. A bark is worse than it’s bite kind of place. Looks crazier than it is. And my understanding is the last couple of years there have been a lot of secruity measures added . . .
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Interesting!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I prefer no guns, especially for southerners.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I agree with Jerry neither one is the answer but you have to stay with whats working. Cable is resuming his “MEATHEAD” status on this one. If we stumble he should be fired on the sidelines.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 am
1. why is cable sooo insistant on grads starting? Why mess with cambell if he gets it done this week?
jerrymac: Why do you think Cable has the job he currently holds? Because of Bruce Gradkowski and the wins over Pittsburgh and Cincinati.
2. Hey Jerry …Who would be your starter at QB?
jerrymac: I’m OK with either guy because I don’t think either is `The guy’ in terms of being your all encompassing QB. AT this point, I think Campbell is healthy. Don’t want a QB with a bad shoulder. Ideally, I’d probably favor Campbell with Gradkowski as the bench guy if both were healthy and playing well.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
HEY NATION…………….WANT TO GET YOUR INSIGHT INTO THIS QB DEAL …………….. WHO SHOULD START? GRAD OR CAMPBELL AND WHY??????????
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I agree with an earlier comment about punks having thieir way at games. But to go further, the coliseum and its surroundings aren’t a “family friendly” place. Normal hard working people that bring thier minivans full of kids don’t want to go to the coliseum. Even Al Davis has to see this huge flaw. Doesn’t Al see the mega fan friendly complexes in other cities?
jerrymac: Working on a story on Coliseum this week . . . if you are a season ticket holder, go to games and are seeing this stuff and are willing to be quoted, etc. drop me an e-mail at jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com . . . I’ll be honest. I’ve never thought the Coliseum was all that scary. A bark is worse than it’s bite kind of place. Looks crazier than it is. And my understanding is the last couple of years there have been a lot of secruity measures added . . .
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Interesting!
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Until the Raiders are in a new stadium, the coliseum and its surroundings are just plain not fan friendly, let alone family friendly. This is not news.
Of course AD sees the “fan friendly complexes in other cities”.
Thus the push to build at Jack London Square.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Jerry Mac wont answer my question about the health of TE Brandon Myers, but he’s fielding questions about Gruden coaching Denver?
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
MR, why dont you just settle with 1 screen name? You and SeymourGlen are the same jerkoff!
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I prefer no guns, especially for southerners.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I trust Cable/Hue/Hackett to choose the correct starting QB. I also trust Cable to stick to his tagline about Grads so that the topic does not blow up in the media. Smart.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Unanswered question to Jerry:
Can we block RMR from the blog? He’s a troll and a hater…
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I prefer no guns, especially for southerners.
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Come down south and try to take em.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I trust Cable/Hue/Hackett to choose the correct starting QB.
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The same way they choose to keep Condo snapping the long snaps!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
In your opinion do we beat the Chiefs Jerry?
jerrymac: What the hell. Sure. Chiefs are in part a creation of their schedule, I believe. Raiders on a roll. Ride it out . . .
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LOL!
you could tell at the end there that Jerry Mac was tired of answering dumb questions
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Drexl,
Jon Condo is gonna get slapped with the franchise tag this year
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
In your opinion do we beat the Chiefs Jerry?
jerrymac: What the hell. Sure. Chiefs are in part a creation of their schedule, I believe. Raiders on a roll. Ride it out . . .
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LOL!
you could tell at the end there that Jerry Mac was tired of answering dumb questions
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Jerry clearly hates us. Half the time you can tell he’s thinking “Why the !@#$ don’t these ‘fans’ just enjoy the good times”
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Drexl,
Jon Condo is gonna get slapped with the franchise tag this year
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I sure hope so, the street says Belicheat is eyeballing him for a 1st rounder.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Come down south and try to take em.
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dont worry Redneck, Bo’s just upset that they can’t conceal & carry a handgun in Illinois
only the thugs will be packing. yippee!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Trade Jon Condo!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Thinking about coming up to the game this Sunday I I can find a cheap flight. Who’s going?
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Come down south and try to take em.
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dont worry Redneck, Bo’s just upset that they can’t conceal & carry a handgun in Illinois
only the thugs will be packing. yippee!
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I feel for you. I really do. If somebody would just put me on a ballot somewhere and get me elected, I’d fix it for you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
If you carry a handgun you are far more likely to get shot with it (by yourself, wife/GF or a thug) than to shoot someone else.
And bullets should cost $100 each.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
jerrymac:
That’s life in the NFL _ pick a quarterback and argue about it.
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Life on JMac’s blog he meant to say.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
the street says Belicheat is eyeballing him for a 1st rounder.
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if Dungver shows interest, Al Davis will give Condo 4 years $40 million
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:35 am
[Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Can Shane Merriman long snap? Condo continues to be a one trick pony…
jerrymac: And when was the last time you saw a bad snap?
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LOL!
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Freaking hilarious, good work Bo!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Thanks Drexl. I try to inject a little levity, in my own perverse way.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
If you carry a handgun you are far more likely to get shot with it (by yourself, wife/GF or a thug) than to shoot someone else.
And bullets should cost $100 each.
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Yes, we should make sure that only the wealthy can protect themselves from the criminals who would just steal them.
People who own fire extinguishers are more likely to trip over them than people that don’t.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
If you carry a handgun you are far more likely to get shot with it (by yourself, wife/GF or a thug) than to shoot someone else.
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False. We keep a 9mm under the wife’s side of the bed
I’ve trained her to use it. it’s loaded
the safety is just a hard trigger pull
if i’m away or somebody breaks in during the night they are asking for 2 bullets in the chest and 1 in the forehead
thats legal!
what are you going to do?
call the cops and wait 30 minutes?
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Of course, my serious question about DMAC’s new-found talent for ball security went unanswered…
I really would like to know what changed. Jerry is clearly under orders to avoid all mention of the wintern.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
If you carry a handgun you are far more likely to get shot with it (by yourself, wife/GF or a thug) than to shoot someone else.
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False.
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True.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
HEY NATION…………….WANT TO GET YOUR INSIGHT INTO THIS QB DEAL …………….. WHO SHOULD START? GRAD OR CAMPBELL AND WHY??????????
Grads didn’t even get snaps in last weeks practice so Campbell should go this week, if he continues to play like the last two games ride him, Grads is the kind of guy that could step in at moments notice and Campbell has the higher ceiling and let’s not stop him from possibly reaching it
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RRS, if I felt there was a real threat of someone breaking into my house I would consider a weapon for protection (likely a shotgun). Thankfully I feel no threat, and I do not have to worry about a weapon of mine being misused.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
1. RedneckRaider = RonPaul Raider = NRaiderA
2. “If i’m away or somebody breaks in during the night they are asking for 2 bullets in the chest and 1 in the forehead”
-3rd one should be a bit lower, between the eyes. Only guarantee’d kill shot on the human body.
-If Bo had his way, that’d cost you $300 and you’d have to curve the bullet around your loved ones a la “Wanted”
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
if i’m away or somebody breaks in during the night they are asking for 2 bullets in the chest and 1 in the forehead
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And that would be $300 well spent.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RRS, if I felt there was a real threat of someone breaking into my house I would consider a weapon for protection (likely a shotgun). Thankfully I feel no threat, and I do not have to worry about a weapon of mine being misused.
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Do you keep a fire extinguisher in your kitchen? I do. I hope I never have to use it, but it’s there and I know how to operate it properly.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Do you keep a fire extinguisher in your kitchen? I do. I hope I never have to use it, but it’s there and I know how to operate it properly.
***
thats what they said in my conceal & carry course last weekend!
LOL, are you registered with the NRA?
BSJ will be happy to know that Ike Skelton will most likely beat out Vicky Hartzler in MO
He’s a dem and votes 95 percent with Prez BO & Pelosi, but the rep lady he’s running against is against conceal & carry and funding military funerals (something like that?) so she doesn’t stand a chance in my state. LOL
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
I use a simple example to illustrate a point, and the example beomes the topic, lol.
To think, I was going to use pornography.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I agree with an earlier comment about punks having thieir way at games. But to go further, the coliseum and its surroundings aren’t a “family friendly” place. Normal hard working people that bring thier minivans full of kids don’t want to go to the coliseum. Even Al Davis has to see this huge flaw. Doesn’t Al see the mega fan friendly complexes in other cities?
jerrymac: Working on a story on Coliseum this week . . . if you are a season ticket holder, go to games and are seeing this stuff and are willing to be quoted, etc. drop me an e-mail at jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com . . . I’ll be honest. I’ve never thought the Coliseum was all that scary. A bark is worse than it’s bite kind of place. Looks crazier than it is. And my understanding is the last couple of years there have been a lot of secruity measures added . . .
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Interesting!
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Until the Raiders are in a new stadium, the coliseum and its surroundings are just plain not fan friendly, let alone family friendly. This is not news.
Of course AD sees the “fan friendly complexes in other cities”.
Thus the push to build at Jack London Square.
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I know that this is gonna be a kick to the nuts of all you who live in Oakland, but I visited the area and I am well familiar with Jack London Square, which is a nice place to take family. But the coliseum is the butt end of San Leandro and Oakland and the street around there offer nothing anyone with a family would be willing to go to. Just my opinion, and why I asked Jerry that question.
I grew up around Fremont in the 70’s, and I remember it wasn’t always that way. I agree that Jack London would be a nice place to build a stadium around.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Do you keep a fire extinguisher in your kitchen? I do. I hope I never have to use it, but it’s there and I know how to operate it properly.
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thats what they said in my conceal & carry course last weekend!
LOL, are you registered with the NRA?
BSJ will be happy to know that Ike Skelton will most likely beat out Vicky Hartzler in MO
He’s a dem and votes 95 percent with Prez BO & Pelosi, but the rep lady he’s running against is against conceal & carry and funding military funerals (something like that?) so she doesn’t stand a chance in my state. LOL
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Its just such a great expression of the rational mindset of a CC permit holder. Yes, I am an NRA member, and probably will be for life (barring unforseen changes in NRA philosophy).
Plus, we need our guns for the next civil war…
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Jimbo,
the Coliseum is an armpit. no doubt
I took my wife there and these drunk people almost puked down her back
needless to say she hasn’t asked me to fly her out for another game!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
What dumb @$$ asked about Jerry’s daughter’s getting any tickets? Really? Are you serious? That is your question? “Hey Jerry any tickets yet for your daughter?”
Jerry should have responded saying, “none of your business you groupie dumb @$$ get a life!!!”
There are some weird dudes out there.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Plus, we need our guns for the next civil war…
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Classic. I wouldn’t mind burning the South one more time.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Plus, we need our guns for the next civil war…
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Classic. I wouldn’t mind burning the South one more time.
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I’m not convinced this one will be a straight up N-S thing
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Jimbo,
the Coliseum is an armpit. no doubt
I took my wife there and these drunk people almost puked down her back
needless to say she hasn’t asked me to fly her out for another game!
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Other cities implode eyesore armpits. Look at Veteran’s Stadium in Philly. Look at the old Meadowlands. Those stadiums in the past were built for a different generation. They were built for a time when people could walk the street and not worry about all kinds of creeps and hoodlums.
People want to feel protected, that goes beyond offering an army of warden guards patrolling. Protection is seeing the familiar sights and sounds of businesses and eateries, landscaping, wide walkways, and limited automobile traffic.
People will pay big money to feel safe.
PRINT THAT!
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=7588
Bob Costas talking Raiders V Cheifs
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Jimbo,
the Coliseum is an armpit. no doubt
I took my wife there and these drunk people almost puked down her back
needless to say she hasn’t asked me to fly her out for another game!
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No argument from me about the arm pit statement.
Real sorry to hear about some drunk gakking near your wife. I gotta believe that fans puke in other stadiums besides the Coliseum.
My wife has attended at least a dozen games in the last 5 years. She looks at the schedule, then makes her choices with zero concern for other Raider fans. This year was the opener, Halloween, and she wants to see Manning play in December. Gawd I love me some Raider fan wife!
She is a little nervous of the dude to my left that wares the grill, and the mickey mouse three fingered gloves. LOL!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
For those of you aren’t to busy making childish jokes, Russell and Mike Shanahan is a very scary marriage. Mike is a great QB coach not good but GREAT ne of the best. If Russell is ready to dedicate himself to the game he can come there and watch McNabb just like Vick did for a year and hone his skills. Mike Shanhan could pull off a coup. Russell is another JohnElway in terms of skill set. If he gets his career turned around the Redskins will have one of the brightest young QB’s in the game.
We all know that would make Mike Shanahan happier than a sissy in boy’s town. He will have taken Al Davis’ so-called mistake and succeeded with it. Russell in that system would be lethal it made Elway better than he had ever been and it would make Russell one of the most dominant QB’s in the game.
YOU’re laughing now but I gaurantee you that wont last long if this happens………….period. Some of you are so ignorant about football it’s ridiculous that would be a perfect fit for Russell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I love me some Raiders and I love the Bay area. It’s sad that the Coliseum has deteriorated so much over the years. When I look at other stadium facilities around the country, it’s really sad to know that Al Davis’ legacy is ending with a crumbled old ghetto of a building. As much as I’d like to have a facility separate from the Niners, having one shining stadium for the Bay Area (with premium facilities) makes all the sense in the world. Right now, where it is, sucks!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Haynesworth-less and Ja-Drankus on the same team? It could only be orchestrated by one idiot owner!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
As much as I have hated Elway over the years, I’ve always had to give him his props. Having said that, I am calling out Priest to lay down the crack pipe — comparing Ja-Drankus to Elway is like comparing Michael Jordan to Mark Madsen!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Last nite, Priest actually said that Al Davis allows our HC’s to bring their own assistants here. I almost choked on my hamburger when I saw that.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Mark Madsen
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Who ???
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
On an off topic, I saw this today on PFT.
No. 3 overall pick Gerald McCoy has been solid, but not great thus far. The Bucs rush defense is a clear weakness of the team.
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WTH are those geniuses who said McCoy would be better than Suh? They both played against the same opponent Texas last year and it was quite clear to me who was the man. I predict 3 new teams competing in the playoffs for the next 5 years. The Raiders, Lions, and Rams.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Tbone that why i said what I said some of you are so ignorant about football it’s ridiculous. Russell was oneof the mst highly touted QB’s ever to enter the draft. His experience here was unforunate at best we weren’t ready to handle him and he wasn’t ready for the spotlight. But talent wise he is every bit as talented as Elway was. Sometime preparation doesn’t meet opportunity and sometimes it does. In this case they may meeting at the perfect time. Russell wan’t ready to handle his responsibility here but that has NOTHING to do with his talent……………….period
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
TJ
No one’s talking about Russell’s skill set. We’re talking about his mind and his attitute. If he ever got that together, yes he would be the QB we THOUGHT we drafted.
He’s not.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# raidertbone Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I love me some Raiders and I love the Bay area. It’s sad that the Coliseum has deteriorated so much over the years. When I look at other stadium facilities around the country, it’s really sad to know that Al Davis’ legacy is ending with a crumbled old ghetto of a building. As much as I’d like to have a facility separate from the Niners, having one shining stadium for the Bay Area (with premium facilities) makes all the sense in the world. Right now, where it is, sucks!
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Bone, where would you build the two team stadium? The 9ers are still looking at the great america spot i believe.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I predict 3 new teams competing in the playoffs for the next 5 years. The Raiders, Lions, and Rams
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I can see that, but the Raiders aren’t going to get very far without a coach and a quarterback
Cable & Grads aren’t locked down past this offseason, but JCamp & Hue Jax are. It’ll be interesting to find out how this thing unfolds
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Of course, my serious question about DMAC’s new-found talent for ball security went unanswered…
I really would like to know what changed. Jerry is clearly under orders to avoid all mention of the wintern.
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Maybe if you would quit wasting your time bashing on Condo all the time and realize how important he is to the team, you might get a different question answered…lol.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
AIG maybe you should’ve choked, yu have no idea what Al Davis does all you do is follow HYPE!!
Lane Kiffin hired his coaches that’s how Cable got here stupid Al Davis didn’t even know him. Kiffin hired basicall his entire offensive staff. Mike Shanahan did as well so did Gruden and Art Shell. But again some of you think you know this organization but you have no idea.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
The same dummies who laughed at me about DHB but they aint laughing anymore. Sunday shut them up.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Do you realize how far JaMarcus would have to come to be even mediocre?
To be a great QB (in the mold of Elway. You really wanted to go there, huh?):
You must be a leader of men, meaning you are a man yourself. Russell is not.
You have to know your playbook. Russell did not.
You have to be able to talk to the media. Russell could not.
You have to take responsibility. Russell has not.
You have to play well on the field. Russell did not.
You have to have self respect and care about winning and care about football and try to improve. Russell did not.
I wanted to draft Russell as bad or worse than anyone here. Russell completely lost me with his sh;tty attitude and unwillingness to do anything resembling what NFL QBs.
Sorry, BHP, that’s not childish, that’s just how it is.
IF he matures (and that’s a big IF), maybe he can salvage a career. Let’s not forget that Shanahan couldn’t win with any other QB he had other than Elway.
Cutler could pass for 4k and they’d still finish 7-9.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
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November 2nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
The same dummies who laughed at me about DHB but they aint laughing anymore. Sunday shut them up.
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Again, I want DHB to succeed. Is this a breakout game? Maybe. Can he duplicate it consistently?
Even the great JaMarcus Russell had a few 100+ QB rate games.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Russell will never be great because he doesn’t have a passion for the game of football.
He wants another paycheck and if some other team takes a flyer on him he stands a better chance of keeping that $9.5 million Mr. Davis has requested be returned in the courtroom
JR had a buddy take the fall for his Sizzurp, probably in exchange for some cash. Now that his imagine as a druggie has been cleared he’ll work out for 3 months and try to make some other team fall in love with a strong arm, but nothing that makes him an NFL QB. Remember that Ryan Leaf was picked up by 2 or 3 teams after the Dolts dumped him too!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
How do you know stupid? He’s been working out constantly for the last 6 months since he’s been cut it’s well documented. If you don’t know something …….ask!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
Remember that Ryan Leaf was picked up by 2 or 3 teams after the Dolts dumped him too!
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Thank you, RRS. Completely eliminated the need for my next long, drawn out post. Said it all right there.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Plus DShanahan is such a stickler for details if he signs there it speaks for itself there is no way Mike Shanahan signs him unless he is absolutely sure of his dedication for the game. So time will tell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
How do you know stupid?
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LOL!
what a childish response
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
How do you know stupid? He’s been working out constantly for the last 6 months since he’s been cut it’s well documented. If you don’t know something …….ask!
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Don’t call me stupid, BHP. I disagree with most of your annoyingly blind and contrived posts but I don’t go there.
I know what Russell’s been doing and I certainly don’t need to ask you anything.
Why is he doing that NOW? Ask yourself this.
Why did it take an intervention from the team just to get his fat a$$ to fat camp?
He’s doing it of his own accord so that he can get paid some more.
If it was ever about football, he sure fooled the sh;t out of all of us.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Plus DShanahan is such a stickler for details if he signs there it speaks for itself there is no way Mike Shanahan signs him unless he is absolutely sure of his dedication for the game. So time will tell.
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or he could be trying to give an actual NFL QB some motivation.
What could be worse than the threat of JaMarcus Russell taking your job?
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Shanarat must have overheard McNabb talking about how great Al Davis is. Now he is hell bent on ruing his career.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Well there are no gaurantees for sure but if he signs with this guy that says it all. Mike wont sign if he’s not 100% sure. So let’s just stop with the I know it alls and see what happens.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
DHB apparently cares about football and getting better.
There is no comparison.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Guess everyone is back from lunch.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
So let’s just stop with the I know it alls and see what happens.
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Fair.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Russell has been available since May 6th!
not 1 NFL team sniffs him until Nov 2nd and you’re saying he has talent like Elway?
How could 30+ Owners, GM’s and Head Coaches be so blind?
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Shanahan coached for Al Davis you freakin MORON.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
AIG maybe you should’ve choked, yu have no idea what Al Davis does all you do is follow HYPE!!
Lane Kiffin hired his coaches that’s how Cable got here stupid Al Davis didn’t even know him. Kiffin hired basicall his entire offensive staff. Mike Shanahan did as well so did Gruden and Art Shell. But again some of you think you know this organization but you have no idea.
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Priest,
uhhh, are you forgetting the defense? I thought coaches get to control the whole team. Dont make me go there to prove how idiotic you are trying to defend this subject. We are the only org in the league beside maybe Dallas that forces the incoming coach to only worry about one side of the ball. dumba$$
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I predict 3 new teams competing in the playoffs for the next 5 years. The Raiders, Lions, and Rams
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I can see that, but the Raiders aren’t going to get very far without a coach and a quarterback
Cable & Grads aren’t locked down past this offseason, but JCamp & Hue Jax are. It’ll be interesting to find out how this thing unfolds
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AIG – RRS, because I am Raider fan I am hoping for the best and that it will be very hard for Al to not renew Cable if we end up with a 9-7 record or even 8-8. I’ve been a loyal Cable fan until this year where he started to wear me down by not producing enough wins. However, I feel strongly we have turned the corner now.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Jamarcus Russell Works Out for Redskins
With the strange benching of Donovan McNabb buzzing around the NFL community, the Washington Redskins are trying to offer an explanation as to why they made the decision. Instead of giving a clear explanation on the matter, the Redskins are apparently bringing in quarterbacks for workouts–one of which is former Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell according to SportingNews.com.
Now, before this is blown out of proportion, the Redskins bring in out-of-work players on Tuesdays for workouts regularly. However, the timing of an unemployed quarterback such as Russell working out for them only raises more questions about the Redskins’ quarterback situation.
JaMarcus Russell was released in May by the Oakland Raiders after he failed to turn them into a winning franchise. His lack of leadership qualities also factored into the equation.
Kyle Shanahan, the Redskins’ offensive coordinator, offered his opinion on Russell:
“Everyone in the NFL’s pretty talented. (It’s) other stuff that really separates you. He is very talented, so I think he can overcome some of the stuff that he struggled with. I don’t really know that personally, but if he looks like he’s in good shape out here and he’s working, and that’s all you can evaluate. Sometimes when guys do get a second opportunity, they can change their stripes.”
It would be a major hit to Donovan McNabb’s legacy if he were to be replaced mid-season by a quarterback who has been highly criticized for his work ethic and inability to lead a team into the playoffs. Only time will tell if this is just coincidental timing, or if the Redskins are actually looking to replace McNabb.
Written by: Andy Bays (Indyposted)
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Well there are no gaurantees for sure but if he signs with this guy that says it all. Mike wont sign if he’s not 100% sure. So let’s just stop with the I know it alls and see what happens.
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Explain McNabb then?
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
It’s not about being blind, man some of you are so stupid. It was not a question of talent it was a quetsion of him dedicating himself to the game.
No on questions Russell’s talent it’s his work ethic they question. Only fans don’t know the difference.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Mike Shanahan said immediately after Sunday’s game that McNabb was yanked because backup Rex Grossman had a better understanding of the team’s two-minute offense. On Monday, the coach shifted his focus, saying nagging hamstring injuries have kept McNabb from practicing at full speed and therefore created doubts as to whether the six-time Pro Bowl quarterback had the “cardiovascular endurance” to run a two-minute drill with no timeouts
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Even if the Redskins sign Russell, he won’t play this year. Sexy Rexy is superior to JaWalruss.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!!
I question Jawalrus’ intelligence and the part of the body between his ears. Mark my words, he will never be able to lead grown men nor learn enough of any playbook to be an NFL starting QB.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Thank you it was never a question of talent with Russell never.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
some of you are so stupid
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LOL
here we go again!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
He’s already been a starting QB you damn FOOL…lol
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Shanahan coached for Al Davis you freakin MORON.
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And he proceeded to whipping our a$$ for many years. I want no part of him again.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
He’s already been a starting QB you damn FOOL…lol
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1. Never earned the job.
2. Because he was a first overall draft pick.
3. Because “he’s goign to be great. Get over it!” FOOOL!!!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
He’s already been a starting QB you damn FOOL…lol
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You are sounding more and more like the old koot KK.
Tj says: “Mike wont sign if he’s not 100% sure”.
Then explain the Mcnabb malfunction?
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
McNabb, making his weekly appearance on ESPN980, was asked to respond to Kyle Shanahan’s version of events.
“I didn’t hear that part. … We had a conversation of just the injuries that I have, being a little banged up,” McNabb said. “Maybe getting an opportunity to rest up for the long haul. But I didn’t hear the word ‘benching’ or anything to that effect.”
Otherwise, McNabb did his best to bite his tongue and keep his sense of humor about the whole affair. When he limped into the locker room – yes, those 33-year-old hamstrings are noticeably bothering him – he jokingly interrupted an interview with rookie receiver Anthony Armstrong by asking: “How’s your cardiovascular endurance?”
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Like the coach said it’sa matter of Russell puting in the neccessary time and efort to be consistent and play at a high level. Talent wise he’s better than 85% of the stating QB’s in the league. He’s more talented tha anyone we have now. Hell in head to head competition he put performed all of them had he taken a pay cut he would still be here.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I don’t give a damn about the McNabb malfunction McNabb is a proven probowl level starter. What is your point????
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
McNabb declined to criticize Mike Shanahan saying: “Coach makes his decisions.”
McNabb’s struggles in his first year under a new offense have been greater than expected – he’s having his worst season statistically since becoming a full-season starter in 2000 – but he said he finds it insulting to answer questions about his work ethic.
“You can ask these guys how I work and my work ethic,” McNabb said. “My work ethic has never been a question. My tempo has never been a question.”
Indeed, Kyle Shanahan said McNabb has “perfect work habits.”
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what a classy guy!
McNabb was supposed to be SO MUCH BETTER than Jason Campbell and both teams are 4-4 right now.
McNabb got benched for Rex Grossman in a loss to the lowly Lions and JCamp beat the NFC West leading Seahawks with 300+ passing yards, 2 TD’s and no turnovers. Sunday was a good day all around for Jason Campbell
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
the Skins also got beat by St Louis in Week 3.
LOL!
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Russel came to oakland with a drug problem, this can not be over looked. Drug addicts are not able to function at a high level other than to feed their habit.
You must also consider the fact that the town is full of vices, the bay area offers a smorgasbord of distarctions. this kid was an immature bumpkin from mobile, with tons of money. The only difference between he and c woodson was woodson stayed off the dope. it is easy to see how the bright lights and big city could get him caught up.
If he has cleared himself of his addicton, perhaps he has put into perspective the important things in life. this often comes with sobrietey.
Please understand that the entertainment world is nothing like tribune bloggers world. you are in a bubble not connected to reality . some people will surround themselves with people that will look out for them and keep them grounded, others become easy prey for hangers on, and yes men.
Judging russell by normal standards is easy, how ever some what unfair. lets hope he has cleaned up, that is the only way his talent will ever have a chance to really surface.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I think it’s obvious McNabb isn’t healthy or his body is starting to breakdown he has never been one to stay in great shape and when you get older it affects you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I don’t give a damn about the McNabb malfunction McNabb is a proven probowl level starter. What is your point????
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Tj says: “Mike wont sign if he’s not 100% sure”.
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Sure of what? That they are both out of shape? Keep digging.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
McNabb has completed 57 percent of his passes.
7 TD’s to 8 INT’s. sacked 22 times and a QB rating of 76
Campbell has completed 56 percent of his passes.
6 TD’s to 4 INT’s. sacked 15 times and a QB rating of 82
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Mystic1 that’s why it was imperative for Russell to egt the help he needed from someone like John Lucas he is very lucky to have met him. Lucas went through many years of drug addiction while playing in the NBA.
He has helped many athletes rehab and have very productive lives and careers he is one of the best at what he does.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!!
I question Jawalrus’ intelligence and the part of the body between his ears. Mark my words, he will never be able to lead grown men nor learn enough of any playbook to be an NFL starting QB.
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Clear as a tinkerbell fAig. I feel the same about Bruise. The Wonderlic don’t lie.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
McNabb has completed 57 percent of his passes.
7 TD’s to 8 INT’s. sacked 22 times and a QB rating of 76
Campbell has completed 56 percent of his passes.
6 TD’s to 4 INT’s. sacked 15 times and a QB rating of 82
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Unlike many on this board i thought we came out ahead with jc. i think he is a better it considering his age and skill set. however mcnabb is a great player, but lack of conditioning is starting to affect him in the twilight of his career. he has never been a work out warrior, and that is what you need to be when your natural talent begins to decline. that was the difference between, warren sapp ( a slob), and guys like rice, brown and r. woodson.
You also need to take into account the foreskins dont really have big time weapons for macnabb to throw to, and a shakey o-line. When you are starting 75 year old joey galloway at receiver, hell if he is even on your raster that tells you everything you need to know. Im afraid mcnabb is being asked to make chicken salad out of chicken ish.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Hey son this is obviously way over your head McNabb is well known for his work ethic as far as preparartion. QB’s aren’t athletes stupid they don’t play skill positions most QB’s aren’t in great shape dumbell hpow lng hav eyou been watching the NFL or football period.
Some f yu are so freakin dumb it hurts. Payton Manning is not in skill position shape neither is Brady. I cna’t think of may QB’s who have ever been in great shape certainly not Elway or Farve. Especially not Big Ben Rothlesberger.
get a freakin clue son………..and stop bothering me.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Just a little perspective on the Randy Moss thing.
Remember Al Davis still refers to him as the GREAT Randy Moss. And he regrets letting him leave here in the first place for only a 4th round pick. He blames Kiffin for talking him into letting Moss go.
If Davis has an opportunity to get Moss back, does he really pass it up?
What was the relationship like between Davis and Moss when he was here? Most players that are in Al Davis’ presence always speak highly of him and seem almost in awe of his football knowledge and legendary status in the league.
I’m not advocating for Moss, I’m just pointing out a few things that can’t be overlooked.
Don’t count out Moss coming back to Oakland. Stranger things have happened…
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Mistic, I dealt with addicts every day, both personally and professionally and I can tell you that to some degree, what you say is correct. However, anybody I’ve known to ever kick did so because they pulled themselves up out of it and did it because they wanted to. You can’t quit for anyone and you can’t help someone if they don’t want to help themselves.
If Russell working out in Houston is just that, well more power to him.
I don’t want to see anyone be an addict or have a friend/family member as an addict. It (addiction) destroys lives and destroys families.
I can tell you that the Raiders tried to assist. Did the same thing with Marinovich a while back too.
I can also tell you that the first major step (and I don’t prescribe to the 12 step method or anything like that, although I know it’s worked for people) is to take responsibility and identify the problem(s).
JaMarcus has not done that, at least publically, which is evident from his last interview.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
530. priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Hey son this is obviously way over your head McNabb is well known for his work ethic as far as preparartion. QB’s aren’t athletes stupid they don’t play skill positions most QB’s aren’t in great shape dumbell hpow lng hav eyou been watching the NFL or football period.
Some f yu are so freakin dumb it hurts. Payton Manning is not in skill position shape neither is Brady. I cna’t think of may QB’s who have ever been in great shape certainly not Elway or Farve. Especially not Big Ben Rothlesberger.
get a freakin clue son………..and stop bothering me.
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Mcnabb is a great player, however when players at any position reach his age your ability begins to slide. If you want to extend your career beyond having to rely on natural talent being in better shape can only help. had mcnabb taken better care of his body perhaps he wouldnt be breaking down as he is now. Again brown and rice are good examples of this. vince evans played until he was forty, he was in top shape.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Inside Raiders locker room coming up in just a few minutes on NFLN
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Just read on Jason LaCanfora’s Twitter that JaDrank weighed in a 286 pounds. And he’s supposedly been working out? LMAO
Honestly, some team should let him eat his way up to 300 and then try him at defensive tackle.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
LET ME MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!!
I question Jawalrus’ intelligence and the part of the body between his ears. Mark my words, he will never be able to lead grown men nor learn enough of any playbook to be an NFL starting QB.
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Clear as a tinkerbell fAig. I feel the same about Bruise. The Wonderlic don’t lie.
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I know you like to defend your boy Russell, but are you setious?
Has anyone – even Bruce’s worst blog enemy – ever accused him of not being professional, knowing the playbook, being a leader and working hard?
Quit being a dueche.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
serious*
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
‘Skins also worked out William Joseph and Justin Miller.
Raider reject day!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Mistic, I dealt with addicts every day, both personally and professionally and I can tell you that to some degree, what you say is correct. However, anybody I’ve known to ever kick did so because they pulled themselves up out of it and did it because they wanted to. You can’t quit for anyone and you can’t help someone if they don’t want to help themselves.
If Russell working out in Houston is just that, well more power to him.
I don’t want to see anyone be an addict or have a friend/family member as an addict. It (addiction) destroys lives and destroys families.
I can tell you that the Raiders tried to assist. Did the same thing with Marinovich a while back too.
I can also tell you that the first major step (and I don’t prescribe to the 12 step method or anything like that, although I know it’s worked for people) is to take responsibility and identify the problem(s).
JaMarcus has not done that, at least publically, which is evident from his last interview.
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L.A
you will get no argument from me on that. I am only making a point about his performance here in oakland, and how we never got to see the real talent of Russel, because when you are struggling with addiction it is impossible to be your best.
Cleaned up though…I think the sky is the limit. i only wish he had made that commitment while here.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
If we win we’ll be 5-4 and the texans will either drop to 4 -3 or the Chargers will drop to 3-6, Miami will drop to 4 -4 or Baltimore will drop to 5 -3. Chiefs played Indy in Indy down to the wire, have 3 straight 200 + rushing games, Cassell has 119 passes thrown w/o an int, and have been even or positive in t/o margin in 8 straight games. Big game
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm
That’s very true Mystic1 but McNabb had his best years when he was 20-30 lbs. overwieght. Big Ben is really heavy.
Being in great shape helps anyone but QB’s are very rarely ever in great shape. The only QB I can ever remember being in tip top shape is Brady Quinn and look where it got him.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:17 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm
That’s very true Mystic1 but McNabb had his best years when he was 20-30 lbs. overwieght. Big Ben is really heavy.
Being in great shape helps anyone but QB’s are very rarely ever in great shape. The only QB I can ever remember being in tip top shape is Brady Quinn and look where it got him.
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point taken Priesttj,
hahaha dude has some guns
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Raiders next on NFL Network
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
When did he wiegh in though in May or February? lol no one knows what he wieghs I saw him on Showtime Inside the NFL and he looked better than he ever did as a pro. That was within the last month.
And Big Ben is at least 270.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Mystic1 that’s why it was imperative for Russell to egt the help he needed from someone like John Lucas he is very lucky to have met him. Lucas went through many years of drug addiction while playing in the NBA.
He has helped many athletes rehab and have very productive lives and careers he is one of the best at what he does.
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TJ,
You know I’m with you on most of your takes. But this drug problem thing is bothersome. Did the guy party? I’m sure he did, but he wouldn’t be the first and he won’t be the last. Over the last six games of 2008, he posted a QB rating over 90. Before the Denver game a couple of weeks ago, it was JR who led us to our last blowout victories
(Denver and Houston in 2008) and our last two game winning streak to end that season. I just don’t by a drug addiction as the reason he regressed in 2009. How the hell would he be able to keep that a secret? If it was that bad, wouldn’t he have been suspended by the league?? We shook up the offensive coaching staff which is unheard of for young QBs drafted at or near the top (see Sanchez, Stafford, Palmer, the Mannings, Ryan and Flacco). And please tell me what QB, let alone one in his second year as a starter, was ever succsessful with TWO rookie starters at WR? Without a running game, return game, pass protection and a schitty defense? JR could have done some things differently, he admitted as much. But the Raiders could have too.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Did we resign the bust?If not who gives a rats a$$ about him.He screwed this organization and the fans of this team.PHUCK HIM.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm
That’s very true Mystic1 but McNabb had his best years when he was 20-30 lbs. overwieght. Big Ben is really heavy.
Being in great shape helps anyone but QB’s are very rarely ever in great shape. The only QB I can ever remember being in tip top shape is Brady Quinn and look where it got him.
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oh yeah, look how overweight Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, & Drew Brees are.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Hey son this is obviously way over your head McNabb is well known for his work ethic as far as preparartion. QB’s aren’t athletes stupid they don’t play skill positions most QB’s aren’t in great shape dumbell hpow lng hav eyou been watching the NFL or football period.
Some f yu are so freakin dumb it hurts. Payton Manning is not in skill position shape neither is Brady. I cna’t think of may QB’s who have ever been in great shape certainly not Elway or Farve. Especially not Big Ben Rothlesberger.
get a freakin clue son………..and stop bothering me.
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What are you talking about fool? Elway was a great athlete. And Favre is in pretty good shape for a 41 year old QB.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
‘Skins also worked out William Joseph and Justin Miller.
Raider reject day!
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are you serious?
LOL!
what about Jerry Porter or Randy Moss?
they should have been #1 and #2 on the list
dare I mention Jake Grove or Kwame Harris?
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Mystic1 that’s why it was imperative for Russell to egt the help he needed from someone like John Lucas he is very lucky to have met him. Lucas went through many years of drug addiction while playing in the NBA.
He has helped many athletes rehab and have very productive lives and careers he is one of the best at what he does.
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TJ,
You know I’m with you on most of your takes. But this drug problem thing is bothersome. Did the guy party? I’m sure he did, but he wouldn’t be the first and he won’t be the last. Over the last six games of 2008, he posted a QB rating over 90. Before the Denver game a couple of weeks ago, it was JR who led us to our last blowout victories
(Denver and Houston in 2008) and our last two game winning streak to end that season. I just don’t by a drug addiction as the reason he regressed in 2009. How the hell would he be able to keep that a secret? If it was that bad, wouldn’t he have been suspended by the league?? We shook up the offensive coaching staff which is unheard of for young QBs drafted at or near the top (see Sanchez, Stafford, Palmer, the Mannings, Ryan and Flacco). And please tell me what QB, let alone one in his second year as a starter, was ever succsessful with TWO rookie starters at WR? Without a running game, return game, pass protection and a schitty defense? JR could have done some things differently, he admitted as much. But the Raiders could have too.
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I dont think its an either or situation. I beleive it is the a confluence of all of these factors creating a perfect storm, that at once capsized our pirate ship, and sunk russell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
TJ & Debo – if you guys want to buy the hype with Russell, you’re more than welcome to …
but to call other Raider fans stupid and such for not agreeing with you on this should have you tar & feathered
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
The Rat is grasping for straws because he is being shown for what he really is-a mediocre to below mediocre talent evaluator and an avg. HC.Without Elway and T.Davis he hasn’t won anything and probably never will.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Did we resign the bust?If not who gives a rats a$$ about him.He screwed this organization and the fans of this team.PHUCK HIM.
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As a raider fan I am pissed at him. As a man, I am rooting for him. a human life is always going to outwiegh a logo in my book.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
The Rat is grasping for straws because he is being shown for what he really is-a mediocre to below mediocre talent evaluator and an avg. HC.Without Elway and T.Davis he hasn’t won anything and probably never will.
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There does seem to be some merit to this theory. i would add that he has a solid reputation as aqb coach as well. but that did little to help jake plummer, or brien griese.
This only lends credence to the davis theory, championships are won by great players, coaches and schemes are overrated.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Elway a great athlete are you stupid??? since when was Elway a great athlete? He was a good athlete to play that position when I say great athlete I mean Mike Vick and we all know Elway was no where near that kind of athlete. He wasn’t even as good VY or Gannon. Elway ran a 4.85 in the 40 that’s TE speed. He was only 6′2 230 great athlete you must be kidding.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Lefty,
during Shanny’s last few years in Denver he tried to plug holes on the team with aging vets and players that nobody else wanted in FA (remind you of someone?)
Now he’s doing the same in Washington and it’s yielding similar results!
rebuilding a team means drafting young studs and discarding the old expensive pieces
Ratface learned from the best … Al Davis!
LOL
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Steve Young was TWICE the athlete Elway was.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
As a raider fan I am pissed at him. As a man, I am rooting for him. a human life is always going to outwiegh a logo in my book.
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The world population of humans on the planet Earth. It is currently estimated to be 6,878,900,000 by the United States Census Bureau.
I will take the logo.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
I hope the guy can clean up his life.Besides that I could care less about him.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
comparing JaMarcus to Byron Leftwich would be an insult to Byron …
please quit comparing JaWalrus to Elway and then calling other people idiots!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Can JaMarcus longsnap?
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Can JaMarcus longsnap?
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LMFAO!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Steve Young was TWICE the athlete Elway was.
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Ridiculous assertion…..PERIOD.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Can JaMarcus longsnap?
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Tom Cable was willing to give Lechler a special package of plays at QB before getting JaDrankus on the phone, what does that tell you?
Grads with a separated shoulder and JCamp with a bum knee and Boller splitting 1st team reps = still not THAT desperate!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RRS anytime you want to try come on. You can kiss my Arse punk!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm
BSJ,
I thought you didn’t like guys that fumble?
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Elway could have played professional baseball as well as be one of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL.To say he wasn’t a great athlete is not an accurate statement.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
anytime you want to try come on.
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try what TJ? Sizzurp?
i’ll pass bro!
that can stay between you and your fat qb lubba
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
Great Win on Sunday.
With the same game planning and execution the Raiders will beat the Chiefs this Sunday.
The Youngsters and Vets are starting to blend nicely.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Wasnt Elway a three sport star at Stanford?
He would have been a first round pick in MLB
I think he was actually an athelete, a very good one
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RRS anytime you want to try come on. You can kiss my Arse punk!
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What a feisty little bantam rooster we have here! Internet e-thug calling out someone on the other side of the country.
Swing that purse old man.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
JaMarcus needs to Grow up.
It’s as simple as that.
The crux of his “career” will hinge on the “maturity” curve.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Elway was a very good baseball player Lefty12 but GREAT he wasn’t and he wasn’t a great athlete he was good yu don’t have to be a great athlete to play baseball Pete Rose proved that.
Elway was very similar to Jim Plunkett who IMO was a better athlete and QB than Elway ever was. To say that he was a great athlete is not accurate IMO good yes.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Wasnt Elway a three sport star at Stanford?
He would have been a first round pick in MLB
I think he was actually an athelete, a very good one
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Now you did it. E-thug will call you an idiot or stupid in a few minutes, give him time.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Elway signed a baseball contract with the Yankees.
He was a good athlete.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
TJ,
go back and read some of your comments regarding JaWalrus from the time he was benched in Nov 2009 to the time he was released in May 2010.
if you still think you can talk trash with your foot in your mouth, I’ll be very impressed!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
I think I’d take a QB like Elway, over the likes of the Namath/Marino types.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Raiderlen that’s truest statement of all post#572
More than anything he was very immature
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
As a raider fan I am pissed at him. As a man, I am rooting for him. a human life is always going to outwiegh a logo in my book.
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The world population of humans on the planet Earth. It is currently estimated to be 6,878,900,000 by the United States Census Bureau.
I will take the logo.
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I understand the humor, i think it is tastless
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Read some of yours RRS and then tell me yu can talk dumbass.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Mike Vick is a great athlete because HE RUNS FAST?
What is the criteria?
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
shanahanamontana bringing in jamarcus for a tryout proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that Mr. Donovan McNabb is the most direspected & underrated player in NFL history.
No QB has accomplsihed more and/or gone through more.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I think a lot of raiders fans are still confused about what is going on with this 2010 team.
Are they for real? Or just smoke and mirrors?
I would love to see them blast the chiefs, but my overall hunch based on years of losing, says that they will loose like always…
I just cant seem to believe that they are 4-4… never thought that possibility would be there this season…
Raiders 4-4???
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I think I’d take a QB like Elway, over the likes of the Namath/Marino types
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In Todays game especially.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
As a raider fan I am pissed at him. As a man, I am rooting for him. a human life is always going to outwiegh a logo in my book.
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The world population of humans on the planet Earth. It is currently estimated to be 6,878,900,000 by the United States Census Bureau.
I will take the logo.
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I understand the humor, i think it is tastless
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What is tastless is the fact you all act like he had an accidental overdose and died. The guy was given the world on a silver platter and proceeded to upchuck on it. I could careless what happens to this “human”.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
personal preference KK I think Marino was the best QB I ever saw. After Plunkett before he was drafted.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Read some of yours RRS and then tell me yu can talk
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TJ,
how old are you?
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:57 pm
That is your opinion.In my opinion he was.IMO he was a better athlete than Plunkett-its all in the eyes of the beholder.In his early years Elway was known for his running ability as well as his cannon arm.Hitting a baseball is one of the most difficult things to do in sports-great hand/eye coordination is needed.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:59 pm
The critereon for athlete and QB is very different Mike Vick is a dominant athlete and a very good QB. Two different things, once he combines both he will be one of the most dominant QB’s ever.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Talent wise he’s better than 85% of the stating QB’s in the league.
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Potential-wise maybe. But talent is being able to deliver accurate throws in tight windows and reading defenses and moving safeties and other defenders with your eyes.
Big arm does not equal talent.
I’m baffled we’re even discussing this.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:02 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
As a raider fan I am pissed at him. As a man, I am rooting for him. a human life is always going to outwiegh a logo in my book.
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The world population of humans on the planet Earth. It is currently estimated to be 6,878,900,000 by the United States Census Bureau.
I will take the logo.
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I understand the humor, i think it is tastless
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What is tastless is the fact you all act like he had an accidental overdose and died. The guy was given the world on a silver platter and proceeded to upchuck on it. I could careless what happens to this “human”.
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He screwed it up, with out a doubt. Who among us hasnt made terrible mistakes in their young lives, and thats without having money to burn.
His play on the field in college earned him the draft status, it wasnt that he was just picked up off the street and handed the keys to the bently.
Sports really isnt that important compared to the struggles he is facing. especially to us that are not getting paid either way.
Thats why I consider the comment tasteless, but to each his own I guess.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Jim Thorpe was a great athlete.
Measure all to Him.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
The Rat is grasping for straws because he is being shown for what he really is-a mediocre to below mediocre talent evaluator and an avg. HC.Without Elway and T.Davis he hasn’t won anything and probably never will.
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There does seem to be some merit to this theory. i would add that he has a solid reputation as aqb coach as well. but that did little to help jake plummer, or brien griese.
This only lends credence to the davis theory, championships are won by great players, coaches and schemes are overrated.
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Really? I thought Griese and Plummer were pretty damn good in Denver. Neither one was very highly touted coming out of college. And Cutler was all world there. I’m with Al on a lot of his theories, but I believe in good coaches and schemes. Never liked Shanahan, but he’s a hell of an offensive coach. And I bet Al would amend his theory where Hue Jackson is concerned. He’s made all the difference in the world.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Elway a great athlete are you stupid??? since when was Elway a great athlete? He was a good athlete to play that position when I say great athlete I mean Mike Vick and we all know Elway was no where near that kind of athlete. He wasn’t even as good VY or Gannon. Elway ran a 4.85 in the 40 that’s TE speed. He was only 6′2 230 great athlete you must be kidding.
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I guess you are as big an idiot as everyone says you are. How old are you? Did you even watch Elway play? Before Steve Young, Elway was considered one of the best athletes to ever play QB. He was also a baseball player in the Yankees minor league system. You really do have sh*t for brains.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I know Lefty12 but Plunkett was also a utstanding athlete before he got hurt and beat up I watched both very closely at Stanford and it was Plunkett IMO.
Hitting a baseball is hand eye coordination not athletic endeavor however he was a much better athlete than most QB’s but nowhere near Steve Young, VY or Gannon for that matter. Gannon was drafted as a safety.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Priest has driven the discussion into the toilet. I pity a 50+ year old “man” calling others FOOL and IDIOT, threats, etc.
You are an embarassment to the franchise TJ.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
And an embarassment to the term “Priest” too, although you are far from the first.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Jim Plunkett was never looked at as an “athlete” as far as I know. I watched him at Stanford,too.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Hey Dummy I watched Elway’s entire career both collegiate and pro saw himplay baseball at Stanford. Elway was a decent athlete not great Hell his first start was against the Raiders.I saw his entire college career UP close.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Priest, I guess that makes you even dumber than I thought.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
The Rat is grasping for straws because he is being shown for what he really is-a mediocre to below mediocre talent evaluator and an avg. HC.Without Elway and T.Davis he hasn’t won anything and probably never will.
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There does seem to be some merit to this theory. i would add that he has a solid reputation as aqb coach as well. but that did little to help jake plummer, or brien griese.
This only lends credence to the davis theory, championships are won by great players, coaches and schemes are overrated.
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Really? I thought Griese and Plummer were pretty damn good in Denver. Neither one was very highly touted coming out of college. And Cutler was all world there. I’m with Al on a lot of his theories, but I believe in good coaches and schemes. Never liked Shanahan, but he’s a hell of an offensive coach. And I bet Al would amend his theory where Hue Jackson is concerned. He’s made all the difference in the world.
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Because coaches and schemes are overrated, that doesnt mean they dont have any value. Just not nearly as much as people make it out to be some time. Otherwise the same coaches, and schemes would win the sb every year regardless of the roster.
Plummer and greise were not very good, they were turn over machines, which is why they were replaced.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
As I said that is your opinion.Mine is different.
Debo-Plummer was a high 2nd round pick-#42.I would say that is pretty highly touted.If you read what I said,I said HC not offensive coach.I stand by my statement that he is an average HEAD COACH.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Let’s all get sentimental for JR, our fallen hero, who was done so wrong by the Raiders and his teammates…
wait, oh yeah, he’s the one who did himself, his teammates and this organization wrong…
I hope he continues to fail as an NFL player, let him go coach some kids and enjoy whatever coin he’s got left…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
LOL. Plunkett ran a 4.28 at the combine. 36 reps on the bench and a 10.5′ vertical… we shoulda used him in the wildcat.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Hey Dummy I watched Elway’s entire career both collegiate and pro saw himplay baseball at Stanford. Elway was a decent athlete not great Hell his first start was against the Raiders.I saw his entire college career UP close.
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I think the quote “just because he is old, doesn’t make him smart” applies 100% to Pj.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Then you didn’t pay attention Plunkett if I’m not mistaken ran fr 2-300 yards in his rookie year most people wuldn’t say Terry Bradshaw was a god athlete but he was he was very similar to Jim Plunkett as a QB in those days they didn’twa nt QB’s to run but Plunkett could run as well as Elway and he was a better QB hands down.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tell me why Steve Young is a better athlete than Elway priest.
Be specific.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Next he’ll tell us Tarkenton coulda won the decathlon…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Guess what guys? CABLE IS A GRADKOWSKI FAN.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Then you didn’t pay attention Plunkett if I’m not mistaken ran fr 2-300 yards in his rookie year
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Could you provide a link?
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Priest:
Plunkett could run as well as Elway and he was a better QB hands down.
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LMAO!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Every virtual village needs a Mister Burns…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
yeah as long as YOU guy’s can call me names it’s fine if you can dish it out then take sucka.
As much as you guy’s name call in here you have a lot of nerve. Shut the hell up!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
And get offa my lawn!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Raiderlen can you define the word athlete for me then maybe what i say will make sense. So define your undertanding of that word.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
It seems i have to hold court every other day in here last time it was DHB can’t play. Now this….
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
No comments are necessary.
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Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Some f yu are so freakin dumb it hurts
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
VanHeathen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Let’s all get sentimental for JR, our fallen hero, who was done so wrong by the Raiders and his teammates…
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Yipes thats going a bit too far
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
As I said that is your opinion.Mine is different.
Debo-Plummer was a high 2nd round pick-#42.I would say that is pretty highly touted.If you read what I said,I said HC not offensive coach.I stand by my statement that he is an average HEAD COACH.
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The 42nd player in the draft is not my definition of a highly touted qb. But to each his own. I’ve always thought that Shanahan was overrated as an HC. But as an offensive mind, the guy is a badass. JR better hope and pray he gets signed. If I was a qb trying to resurrect my career, I probably couldn’t find a better coach.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
tj I have never called you anything but tj and you still call me names like pu$$y.
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Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
yeah as long as YOU guy’s can call me names it’s fine if you can dish it out then take sucka.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Raiderlen can you define the word athlete for me then maybe what i say will make sense. So define your undertanding of that word.-
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An individual that demonstrates an above average aptitude in a variety of sporting endeavors.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Mike Vick is a ’superior athlete’ and an ‘inferior human being’…sure all that athletic prowess helped him when he was killing dogs in his back yard…
Dude is a POS and i hope he gets “theisman’d” nest timehe plays…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
No comments are necessary.
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How ironic: on election day Mistabrown and I finally agree on something…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Priest, take a nap, and come back later. You’ve lost this argument.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
tj is the a$$ end of a horse…period
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Priest thinks he “holds court” when in reality he can barely hold his water.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Athlete (noun) : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Guess what guys? CABLE IS A GRADKOWSKI FAN.
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Yeah, Bruise must be his drinking buddy or something. Can’t think of any other reason why. Can’t be because of his record as a starter this year.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Theres hope for you yet but its doubtful. I wouldn’t wage any $$$ on it.
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
How ironic: on election day Mistabrown and I finally agree on something…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
SeymourGlen, you been busy with your aliases! A two-game win streak brings the rats out of the dumpsters dont it!
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RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Yeah, Bruise must be his drinking buddy or something. Can’t think of any other reason why. Can’t be because of his record as a starter this year.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Mike Vick is a ’superior athlete’ and an ‘inferior human being’…sure all that athletic prowess helped him when he was killing dogs in his back yard…
Dude is a POS and i hope he gets “theisman’d” nest timehe plays…
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You are the moral compass for humanity? Wow Vick killed dogs and he is scum of the earth, Thomas jefferson was slave owner and he is a hero. What a joke.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Raider E Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Athlete (noun) : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
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A generic definition that does not encompass the “rounded” excellence that truly would define an athlete.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Plunket ran for over 200 yards his first 3 years.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PlunJi00.htm
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlētēs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
First Known Use: 15th century
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Trade Jon Condo for the moral compass of humanity!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
If that is your undestanding then I’ll explain like this; Steve ran a much faster time in the 40 was smaller but much tougher physically than Elway. Elway ran a 4.85 Steve ran a sub4.5 40 threw with beter accuracy in the pros and in college. Was capable of running for 100 yards in most bgame she played had a better aptitude for the position than Elway IMO. Elway played via his armstrength and ellusiveness. Steve Young played smarter and was a purer passer than Elway ever was.
In short by the time their careers were over Elway did more because he never sat behind Joe but tecnically speaking Steve played the position with more skill.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Guess what guys? CABLE IS A GRADKOWSKI FAN.
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Yeah, Bruise must be his drinking buddy or something. Can’t think of any other reason why. Can’t be because of his record as a starter this year.
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Bruce saved his job, unfortunately. i have to believe though that soup is also saving his bacon now. too bad we cant just dump the time out quality coach and slide hu jak into the spot.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Raider E Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Athlete (noun) : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
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A generic definition that does not encompass the “rounded” excellence that truly would define an athlete.
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so you admit that your looking for a subjective definition/opinion which makes everyone right in their own mind? so whats the debate about if there is no winner?
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
SeymourGlen, you been busy with your aliases! A two-game win streak brings the rats out of the dumpsters dont it!
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RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Yeah, Bruise must be his drinking buddy or something. Can’t think of any other reason why. Can’t be because of his record as a starter this year.
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Dude, this obsession you have with SeymourGlen is weird as schitt! You still crying in your milk that we didn’t draft a FB in the 1st round? Remember? “Our No. 1 need”. Lol!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Elway averaged 6.1 per rush, Plunkett 5.5.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Is post #634 correct? Many would not have guessed that. But Plunkett in college was an outstanding athlete I went to almost every game his junior and senior years.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Hey MisTake…
go cry some more over JaMarcus’s “addiction’ and pray for his rehab treatments…
I have my morals, and you have, well, whatever you have you can keep to yourself…
Thomas Jefferson??? when did i say he was a hero, but glad you support killing defensless, deomesticated animals…
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Actually OakGlen what I said was we need to draft a FB after round 3. But you knew that. Thats your game to lie about what others say, dead give away on your aliases!
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RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
You still crying in your milk that we didn’t draft a FB in the 1st round? Remember? “Our No. 1 need”. Lol!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:35 pm
622.RaiderLen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Raiderlen can you define the word athlete for me then maybe what i say will make sense. So define your undertanding of that word.-
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An individual that demonstrates an above average aptitude in a variety of sporting endeavors.
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Are you implying that this definition is something other than generic?
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Elway was sacked on 6.6% of pass plays, Plunkett 9.3%.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Priest,
If you are speaking just about football, I have no quibble with your views on Steve Young when compared to Elway.
My question to you is, How does Young stack up as a baseball player to Elway?
In that question, lies the answer to my definition of athlete.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Hey MisTake…
go cry some more over JaMarcus’s “addiction’ and pray for his rehab treatments…
I have my morals, and you have, well, whatever you have you can keep to yourself…
Thomas Jefferson??? when did i say he was a hero, but glad you support killing defensless, deomesticated animals…
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Dont trip, im just adding a little perspective to call your call for vick to be “thiesmaned”, maimed.
By the way, wishing some one well in life does not equal crying. but your takes do equal exactly what you named yourself heathen
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Guess what guys? CABLE IS A GRADKOWSKI FAN.
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Yeah, Bruise must be his drinking buddy or something. Can’t think of any other reason why. Can’t be because of his record as a starter this year.
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Bruce saved his job, unfortunately. i have to believe though that soup is also saving his bacon now. too bad we cant just dump the time out quality coach and slide hu jak into the spot.
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Huh? Jamarcus saved his job in 2008. And I could make the argument that he did it again when he beat Denver last year. Where the hell did this “Bruise saved Cable’s job” come from anyway? I think this team would be fine without him and Bruise. We should elevate Hue tomorrow.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Elway was sacked on 6.6% of pass plays, Plunkett 9.3%.
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To be fair it difficult to compare the guys according to stats. plunk played with terrible patsy, and whiner team.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
so you admit that your looking for a subjective definition/opinion which makes everyone right in their own mind? so whats the debate about if there is no winner?
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I asked earlier what the criteria was.
Non was laid out.
So yes, I’m giving a subjective answer.
Tell me you definition.
In your own subjective words.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Cable has revamped the roster,gotten rid of the knuckleheads,has us winning,has the players respect,and has them playing like a team for the 1st time in years,yet many still want to dump him now.What is the matter,Mystic,doesn’t he have the main physical characteristic you require in players and coaches?
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:32 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Guess what guys? CABLE IS A GRADKOWSKI FAN.
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Yeah, Bruise must be his drinking buddy or something. Can’t think of any other reason why. Can’t be because of his record as a starter this year.
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Bruce saved his job, unfortunately. i have to believe though that soup is also saving his bacon now. too bad we cant just dump the time out quality coach and slide hu jak into the spot.
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Huh? Jamarcus saved his job in 2008. And I could make the argument that he did it again when he beat Denver last year. Where the hell did this “Bruise saved Cable’s job” come from anyway? I think this team would be fine without him and Bruise. We should elevate Hue tomorrow.
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i have to agree, I dont think cable or bruce bring much to the table as lead dogs. bruce is good back up, and cable well he seems to be good at sucking badly as a head coach.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Are you implying that this definition is something other than generic?
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No. Not at all.
Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jim Thorpe.
Do these fit the definition I just laid out?
That’s specific.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Vince Evans was the most athletic QB to play for the Raiders.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:45 pm
RaiderLen,
I think that there are just two words missing from this debate and those are “all” and “around”. I am thinking the debate is focused on the term “All-Around Athlete”.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Actually, Gannon was the most athletic QB to play for the Raiders.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
I do agree with your specifics Len
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
RaiderLen,
I think that there are just two words missing from this debate and those are “all” and “around”. I am thinking the debate is focused on the term “All-Around Athlete”.
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Good point.
And well said.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Cable has revamped the roster,gotten rid of the knuckleheads,has us winning,has the players respect,and has them playing like a team for the 1st time in years,yet many still want to dump him now.What is the matter,Mystic,doesn’t he have the main physical characteristic you require in players and coaches?
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Actually i think he would be better in the front office working with davis, i like the locker room he has helped build. in terms of on the field performance, i think hu jack is the difference. this year we have an offensive Juggernaut in the making, the offense has been able to focus, after an embarrassing loss, and after a win. they were unable to do either prior to hu jack being on board.
I still dont like this o-line, they are better with veldeheer, but still sub standard. i think this is a reflection on cable as this is his baby.
Im not sure what you mean by physical characteristic that im looking for.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Leave Cable were he is as long as the team wins games.
Because Hue has done a good job thus far with the O, does not mean that He will by default be a good head coach.
If this arrangement works, as in WINS, don’t try and fix it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Tom Cable IMO has done a outstanding job in some respects we are light years from where we were when he took over. He doesn’t self promote, the word dysfunction is no longer associated with this team. They play very hard every game. They’re starting to play a lot smarter and their skill levels are much better developed. He will sit nonperformers in a hurry sometimes faster than he should IMO. He demands production and accepts nothing less.
I think unless we get a sure fire great coach in the Bill Belichik type of proven master at that position. Why change for the sake of change? It doesn’t make sense. This is his second full season and if we win Sunday he’ll be the first winning coach here in 8 years. What else is there?
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:52 pm
hahaha more spin coming from dc, what a circus
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Tom Cable IMO has done a outstanding job in some respects we are light years from where we were when he took over. He doesn’t self promote, the word dysfunction is no longer associated with this team. They play very hard every game. They’re starting to play a lot smarter and their skill levels are much better developed. He will sit nonperformers in a hurry sometimes faster than he should IMO. He demands production and accepts nothing less.
I think unless we get a sure fire great coach in the Bill Belichik type of proven master at that position. Why change for the sake of change? It doesn’t make sense. This is his second full season and if we win Sunday he’ll be the first winning coach here in 8 years. What else is there?
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Makes sense to me.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Reps are cleaning up on the Dems!
Pres purp lips has cost dozens of Dems their jobs with his socialist agenda! Way to go Browniee!!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Our success is obviously directly attributable to NMILLER laying. Every time he plays we WIN. Let’s make sure NMILLER gets some credit for this recent success.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Mystic1 the reason Hujack can do his job is Cable isn’t a headcase he doesn’t have a problem giving Hujack that kind of leeway. He doesn’t begrudge Hujack his pub nor take issue with it for the first tiem in a long time it’s quiet on all fronts and we’re winning. How is that a bad thing? It’s time Cable starts getting some respect from some of us.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Three victories in a row would be a good place to make our move. One more win next week and we WILL be on everybody’s radar.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I think Shanahan is angry that Campbell has turned out a steal for the Raiders at Shanahans expense, and Shanahan is looking for a way to steal something back (Russell). But Al has the wood on Shanahan in 2010. Russell wont amount to anything.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Reps are cleaning up on the Dems!
Pres purp lips has cost dozens of Dems their jobs with his socialist agenda! Way to go Browniee!!!!
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Democrats are going to lose because of the economy stupid. And, that collapsed when Bush was the president.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Mystic1 the reason Hujack can do his job is Cable isn’t a headcase he doesn’t have a problem giving Hujack that kind of leeway. He doesn’t begrudge Hujack his pub nor take issue with it for the first tiem in a long time it’s quiet on all fronts and we’re winning. How is that a bad thing? It’s time Cable starts getting some respect from some of us.
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Yep,
Cable has his ego firmly in check.
Results are what He is after.
If they win, there will be plenty of credit to go around.
Of course AL will be a the head of that table.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
We’re talking about getting rid of Cable in here? LOL. Look, I’ve been critical of him but he’s getting rid of the knuckleheads and obviously has a good working relationship with the big cheese. Things are starting to click. Why are we now discussing getting rid of the coach?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
LMAO….yah OK!
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A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Democrats are going to lose because of the economy stupid. And, that collapsed when Bush was the president.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Leave Cable were he is as long as the team wins games.
Because Hue has done a good job thus far with the O, does not mean that He will by default be a good head coach.
If this arrangement works, as in WINS, don’t try and fix it.
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# priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Mystic1 the reason Hujack can do his job is Cable isn’t a headcase he doesn’t have a problem giving Hujack that kind of leeway. He doesn’t begrudge Hujack his pub nor take issue with it for the first tiem in a long time it’s quiet on all fronts and we’re winning. How is that a bad thing? It’s time Cable starts getting some respect from some of us.
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As much as i hate to admit it, i really cant argue against these statements. After all being 4-4 or mediocre beats being a bottom feeder.
My thought process is clouded by my own wish to see hu jack get the head gig during the off season. Trust in Al he knows what he is doing.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
What’s with Washington Redskins benching McNabb & now trying out JaLoser. The Washington powers to be must have met JaLoser at the Purple Drank bar and he must have bought many rounds for his followers & admirers. They all have to be out of their minds.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:02 pm
# The Big Banana Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
We’re talking about getting rid of Cable in here? LOL. Look, I’ve been critical of him but he’s getting rid of the knuckleheads and obviously has a good working relationship with the big cheese. Things are starting to click. Why are we now discussing getting rid of the coach?
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Say bra, still think we should cut jc? just curios
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
# JB Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
What’s with Washington Redskins benching McNabb & now trying out JaLoser. The Washington powers to be must have met JaLoser at the Purple Drank bar and he must have bought many rounds for his followers & admirers. They all have to be out of their minds.
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the funny thing is the rat family cant get their story straight, father and son are now contradicting each other.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Dc will never win again, its the curse of doug williams.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Is post #634 correct? Many would not have guessed that. But Plunkett in college was an outstanding athlete I went to almost every game his junior and senior years.
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he took the Heisman in 1970
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
I’m scared like you are Mystic1 that Hujack will leave with the successs he is having but trust me before he ever gets out of here Mr Davis will load his pockets with loot. He will have to turn down some serious caaassh to leave here.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
LMAO….yah OK!
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A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Democrats are going to lose because of the economy stupid. And, that collapsed when Bush was the president.
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Let’s see you try and dispute that.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Another thing Waklaboo Elway never won a bowl game he never even WENT to a bowl game in his college career. Plunkett won back to back Rose Bowls over the toughest teams in college football the Ohio St Buckeyes with Woody Hayes and those stacked teams.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Anybody catch my boys Cam Newton, or Robert Griffin. the best qbs in college, i hope they get a good shot in the league, these dudes are stars in the making that may revolutionize qb the qb position. Would love to see either one in silver and black
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Are you trying to say Plunkett was a better NFL QB than Elway?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Dc will never win again, its the curse of doug williams
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Man, what was Doug’s crime?
I think it’s the curse of the midget in the suit.
I wonder if Snyder uses stacks of $1000 bills as lifts in his wing tips.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Mistic – where did I say to cut JC? If I did, I was probably hot about the loss to SF. A team we should have beat. If I remember correctly, you weren’t too happy with him either after that game.
Look, it is what it is. JC is good at managing games where he isn’t asked to put the game on his shoulders. Games were the running game and the defense are playing well.
Grads is best when the team needs a spark or when nothing else is working and we need to pass to win.
Enjoy the 2-game win streak. I’ll be in Oakland rooting for my Raiders regardless of the QB this week.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:16 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Are you trying to say Plunkett was a better NFL QB than Elway?
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He is also comparing Jameatball to Elway. The comedic value of the posts he has made this afternoon is off the charts! Great stuff!
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Anybody catch my boys Cam Newton, or Robert Griffin. the best qbs in college, i hope they get a good shot in the league, these dudes are stars in the making that may revolutionize qb the qb position. Would love to see either one in silver and black
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Who are these guys? They are not listed in the top 120 college QB players:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011_QB?&_1:col_1=2&_1:col_2=3&start_row=101
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
priestt,
That is one of my favorite things about being a real raider fan. My guy Davis will pay for people he believes in. we get burned sometimes, but then again we have plenty of quality guys throughout the years.
I remember some impostors on this board saying they would rather be jets fans or viqueen fans, because they have been winning recently. This is to use your word “lunacy”.
Vikes have never won the big one, jets havent done squat since the 60’s, and only have the one trophy. i wouldnt trade my 3 beautiful trophies, and status as one of the greatest sports teams of all time, to be an also ran or miss congeniality during the last seven.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
# The Big Banana Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Mistic – where did I say to cut JC? If I did, I was probably hot about the loss to SF. A team we should have beat. If I remember correctly, you weren’t too happy with him either after that game.
Look, it is what it is. JC is good at managing games where he isn’t asked to put the game on his shoulders. Games were the running game and the defense are playing well.
Grads is best when the team needs a spark or when nothing else is working and we need to pass to win.
Enjoy the 2-game win streak. I’ll be in Oakland rooting for my Raiders regardless of the QB this week.
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No sweat man, I enjoyed our back and fourth. Ill be at the game this weekend too. for the record im not just enjoying the streak..im love’n it!
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Mistic, it’s sad you shill this much for Al, without getting a dime. I can see being from Oakland and being a Raider fan, anti Niners, etc. But to shill for Al Davis like this? Man’s done NOTHING for you, other than embarrass you the past 7 years. And don’t tell me it’s because the team’s playing better now. You were shilling for him all season long.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Is 2 wins straight really a streak? I thought it had to be 3? I’m going with the Lou Brown theory…
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Dc will never win again, its the curse of doug williams
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Man, what was Doug’s crime?
I think it’s the curse of the midget in the suit.
I wonder if Snyder uses stacks of $1000 bills as lifts in his wing tips.
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Doug williams was awesome, d.c is being punished for the way he was unceremoniously dumped the very next year. snyder is a part of what the curse has reaped.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Mistic, it’s sad you shill this much for Al, without getting a dime. I can see being from Oakland and being a Raider fan, anti Niners, etc. But to shill for Al Davis like this? Man’s done NOTHING for you, other than embarrass you the past 7 years. And don’t tell me it’s because the team’s playing better now. You were shilling for him all season long.
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and what exactly is the problem with that?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Tom Cable IMO has done a outstanding job in some respects we are light years from where we were when he took over. He doesn’t self promote, the word dysfunction is no longer associated with this team. They play very hard every game. They’re starting to play a lot smarter and their skill levels are much better developed. He will sit nonperformers in a hurry sometimes faster than he should IMO. He demands production and accepts nothing less.
I think unless we get a sure fire great coach in the Bill Belichik type of proven master at that position. Why change for the sake of change? It doesn’t make sense. This is his second full season and if we win Sunday he’ll be the first winning coach here in 8 years. What else is there?
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Very well said, agree 100%.
Tom was losing me there for a second after every third game was a blowout, but they have been in or won 7 games in a row and won the last two in dominating very un-fluke like fashion.
We’ve clowned on him a number of times for his ‘turn the corner’ speeches, but i think if the last two especially are any indication of things to come, we’ll be just fine.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
MB, the good thing about Republicans taking back the congress is that now we can start blaming them for EVERYTHING right off the bat the way you guys did O. the minute he took office. Shoe, meet other foot.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
That is one of my favorite things about being a real raider fan. My guy Davis will pay for people he believes in. we get burned sometimes, but then again we have plenty of quality guys throughout the years.
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Al loves his players, this is a certainty.
His love sometimes clouds His judgment.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
and what exactly is the problem with that?
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It’s sad, and doesn’t make sense. People look upon such things with pity. Just human nature. There’s nothing really wrong with it, morally. If you want to spend your whole life shilling for someone who a) doesn’t deserve it, and b) doesn’t know you exist, suit yourself. But people are going to make fun of you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Doug williams was awesome, d.c is being punished for the way he was unceremoniously dumped the very next year. snyder is a part of what the curse has reaped.
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Makes sense now.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
the Raider aura created by Davis is the reason I love the Raiders more than any sports team. It’s more than just the team I root for because they’re local. Although I’ve questioned decisions that Al’s made how can I turn my back on him? You can choose to do so but I’m going down with the ship
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
# JB Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Anybody catch my boys Cam Newton, or Robert Griffin. the best qbs in college, i hope they get a good shot in the league, these dudes are stars in the making that may revolutionize qb the qb position. Would love to see either one in silver and black
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Who are these guys? They are not listed in the top 120 college QB players:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011_QB?&_1:col_1=2&_1:col_2=3&start_row=101
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Newton is the front runner for the hiesman, starting qb for #1 auburn. he is unlike anybody I have ever seen. 6 foot 6 250 pounds, (all muscle, the anti russel). As a passer he is better or on par with any qb that has come out over the last 10 years and he runs faster than vince young, and stronger than vick. he is the new wave.
Griffin starts for baylor and is exactly the same only not as big and strong.
These guys dont turn the ball over.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Pres purp lips is leaving the Country tommorrow to dodge this disaster taking place.
lol
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Al loves his players, this is a certainty.
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Didn’t he try to ban Rich Gannon from interviewing players?
Isn’t Marcus Allen still banned?
How much did Al love the defense in ‘04 and ‘05, when he would come in and change a gameplan they were all looking forward to, according to Warren Sapp?
Stabler had some interesting things to say in his book about how much Al supposedly loved his players. Didn’t even congratulate Kenny after Super Bowl 11, just told him he had to do it again? Lotta love there.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
and what exactly is the problem with that?
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It’s sad, and doesn’t make sense. People look upon such things with pity. Just human nature. There’s nothing really wrong with it, morally. If you want to spend your whole life shilling for someone who a) doesn’t deserve it, and b) doesn’t know you exist, suit yourself. But people are going to make fun of you.
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If he was to put up a billboard I may agree, but on a Raider blog?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Randy’s on waivers. Odds on him being a Raider again?
We’ll start at 10-1.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:29 pm
MB, O. isn’t running for reelection today. This is called a mid term election. Presidential election is every 4 year. No matter what happens today, O. is till president tomorrow morning. That’s what cracks me up. So many people trying to talk politics when they don’t even know the basics! lol.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Yeah you guys love the blame game. After you wreck everything you get your hands on you point the finger at Reps.
The good thing is we can repeal HC and stop the socialism train wreck!
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
MB, the good thing about Republicans taking back the congress is that now we can start blaming them for EVERYTHING right off the bat the way you guys did O. the minute he took office. Shoe, meet other foot.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Isn’t Marcus Allen still banned?
Actually, Marcus did a few Raider broadcasts a few years back. Had the logo on his jacket and everything. He still hates Davis, just not his money.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Al only loves those who are loyal and don’t question his authority.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
The billboard was to encourage Al to retire so the Raiders could win again. They weren’t shilling for any individual person.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Im well aware its a mid term. Im also well aware its a referendum on the idiot in the WH.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:29 pm
MB, O. isn’t running for reelection today
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Yeah you guys love the blame game. After you wreck everything you get your hands on you point the finger at Reps.
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MB, it’s a Republican congress now. Can’t blame dems anymore. Republicans are accountable. No excuses.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Mistic1
Newton is the front runner for the hiesman, starting qb for #1 auburn. he is unlike anybody I have ever seen. 6 foot 6 250 pounds, (all muscle, the anti russel). As a passer he is better or on par with any qb that has come out over the last 10 years and he runs faster than vince young, and stronger than vick. he is the new wave.
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I found him. He’s a junior. Is he coming out this next year or in 2012? He is rated as #1 for 2012. Can;’t find the other guy or Baylor listed. Obviously an omission on their part.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
MB, obviously you don’t know what a mid term is. You’re talking about O. being beaten. LOL. Do you even know what a mid term election is? Do you realize O. isn’t running against anyone? This is so sad.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Mista, Democrats are taking the fall for all the mistakes made during the Bush administration. Keep your ignorant Fox News opinions to yourself.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Exactly! Now that you finally said something that isnt stupid lets end it there!
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
MB, it’s a Republican congress now. Can’t blame dems anymore. Republicans are accountable. No excuses.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
La to the Bay, that’s Marcus’s money. Al still owes Marcus money, and always will, as far as I’m concerned. Go look up who our all time leading rusher is.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
MB, it’s going to be fun blaming Republicans right off the bat FOR EVERYTHING the way you guys blamed O. for everything before he was even sworn in! What goes around comes around.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
The billboard was to encourage Al to retire so the Raiders could win again. They weren’t shilling for any individual person.
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I actually was not thinking of “the” billboard. Another example then: if he were standing in the BART station with a megaphone preaching the love of all things AD i would agree with you, just not on a Raider blog.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
MR how many browsers do you have open? Fire up SeyGlen too!
hahaha….I didnt know Bush was pres these last 2 years…..wow a referendum on Bush!!!
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A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Mista, Democrats are taking the fall for all the mistakes made during the Bush administration. Keep your ignorant Fox News opinions to yourself.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
You can blame the Reps from stopping the reckless sepending I have no problem with that.
So we are in agreement lets get back to football alias queen!
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
MB, it’s going to be fun blaming Republicans right off the bat FOR EVERYTHING the way you guys blamed O. for everything before he was even sworn in! What goes around comes around.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Mistic, it’s sad you shill this much for Al, without getting a dime. I can see being from Oakland and being a Raider fan, anti Niners, etc. But to shill for Al Davis like this? Man’s done NOTHING for you, other than embarrass you the past 7 years. And don’t tell me it’s because the team’s playing better now. You were shilling for him all season long.
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RMR you crack me up.
You can call me a shill, i call it being a fan. I am a fan of the raiders, i am a fan of davis. i will always root for davis because i like his methods, he is 100% bad a$$.
He does it his way, and doesnt care what we think. he is a risk taker. he is not into percentages, he takes what he wants, he is a pirate. he is a super villain, we the nation are the bad guys in black.
true the last seven years have been rough, but that is just a small slice of the pie, a capsule in the over all big picture. we are unique, we are despised. he is captain jack sparrow, meets lex luthor.
When we loses its ugly, but when we win we dominate.
Often hated, never imatated,the man the legend Al DAVIS.
And as far as what has he done for me? he has given me the joy of winning 3 superbowls, i have watched 4, and put some of the greatest players in nfl history in silver and black so we could watch them up close.
Whats not to like?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RMR,
Feeling frisky I see.
Is Stabler at Raider games these days?
Did AL not reference Stabler indirectly, when he did the overhead projector thing, in defense of JaMarcus and work ethic?
Marcus had crossed a line that has been speculated and written about.
If I were AL and I didn’t like what was going on in 04 and 05, I might have done the same thing.
Warren Sapp. Credible or convenient, source?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Let me get this straight…
Registered Dems are voting for Rep’s 2 years into the pres purple lips admin to get back at Bush?
ROFLMAO!
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A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Mista, Democrats are taking the fall for all the mistakes made during the Bush administration. Keep your ignorant Fox News opinions to yourself.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
rmr is getting nervous that his 5-11 prediction is about to be pissed on by the RAIDERS!
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
MR-A.B
Back to football before I dislocate my jaw from laughing, deal?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
HA ha. A.B. Paine, now he thinks we’re the same person. Because I guess only one person on the planet could take note of MB’s hypocrisy in blaming O. for everything, before he was even sworn in, and now insisting that we can’t blame Republicans for anything. Ha ha. Fat chance. It looks like Republicans are going to take the congress back tonight. The clock starts THE MINUTE IT’S OFFICIAL. They will be accountable FOR EVERYTHING, just as O. was when he was sworn in. Heck, BEFORE he was sworn in. Republicans were blaming O. for the economy before he’d ever even took the office. Shoes on the other foot now. It’s not going to be easy, MB.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Im also well aware its a referendum on the idiot in the WH.
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Just like the last election was a referendum on the prior idiot in the WH.
It’s all a bunch of games being played by the bankers anyway. No way the Reps turn around this economy with jobs still being shipped overseas.
Reps will not be able to gain the WH back without real changes in the economy, and I just don’t see that happening no matter who is in the WH.
NAFTA is what needs to be repealed!
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
You can blame the Reps from stopping the reckless sepending I have no problem with that.
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I would credit everyone in government for an improved economy, just as I would blame everyone for a failed one. If the economy improves, it will be due to O’s vision AND Republican fiscal discipline. And it will also ensure O’s reelection. A better economy would result in Americans not wanting to rock the boat, so I’m cool with that result.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Key to victory vs. the Queefs:
Score more points than they do—works EVERY time…
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
The Big Banana Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
We’re talking about getting rid of Cable in here? LOL. Look, I’ve been critical of him but he’s getting rid of the knuckleheads and obviously has a good working relationship with the big cheese. Things are starting to click. Why are we now discussing getting rid of the coach?
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Tell that to Cable. He’s the one saying he’s going back to Bruise.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
You can call me a shill, i call it being a fan.
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We’re all Raider fans. But nobody shills for Al as much as you and Priest.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Len, Stabler wrote in his book what he wrote in his book. It’s not about what Al says when he’s on camera, it’s about what Stabler says. Stabler never thought Al cared much for him. And a lot of players felt the same. This notion that Al is a player’s owner is a myth. Al is an Al owner. Has his goofy little vision of what football is, enforces it with an iron fist. He just says that “players owner” stuff to justify the way he treats coaches. Truth is, he treats everyone like crap.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
If your rich and you’re republican your selfish but at least your looking our for your own tax breaks and lower emission standards less regulations weapons contracts during war etc. but if your poor or middle class and you’re republican, it’s pretty funny. Your saying you didn’t like the tax breaks on last years return? You don’t like healthcare not being able to turn you down or drop you for preexisting conditions? You would have rather let GM go out of business and lay off all those workers? You prefer being able to “gay bash” not being a federal offense? You would have rather have kept 150,000 troops in Iraq searching for weapons of mass destruction and paying the bill?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RaiderLen Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RMR,
Feeling frisky I see.
Is Stabler at Raider games these days?
Did AL not reference Stabler indirectly, when he did the overhead projector thing, in defense of JaMarcus and work ethic?
Marcus had crossed a line that has been speculated and written about.
If I were AL and I didn’t like what was going on in 04 and 05, I might have done the same thing.
Warren Sapp. Credible or convenient, source?
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what line are you talking about with Marcus?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
it’s sad, and doesn’t make sense. People look upon such things with pity. Just human nature. There’s nothing really wrong with it, morally. If you want to spend your whole life shilling for someone who a) doesn’t deserve it, and b) doesn’t know you exist, suit yourself. But people are going to make fun of you.
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Its sports and entertainment, its not real life. He doesnt need to know me for me to be a fan. famous entertainers dont know most of their fans, does that mean we should not appreciate their accomplishments, or celebrate their victories.
Watching my guys win is one of the joys that the common man can enjoy away from the daily grind of reality.
Besides we are lucky to have a guy like davis, Remember we are in a very elite fraternity in raider land, there only a handful of teams that can match our trophy collection.
I never have to listen to any crap from, jet fan, or falcon fan, or most of the nfl. i just direct them to the web site, and the hall of fame, where they can learn about my team.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Plunkett didn’t have the opportunity to win like Elway did he went to a very poor team and Elway was able to manipulate the team he went to. If Plunkett had gone to a decent team he would’ve had a better career no doubt in my mind. He was the rookie of the year. He was a dominant college QB where Elway was very good his talent was on par with Plunketts but IMO Plunkett was dominant in college I saw him play almost every game his junior and senior seasons and I also saw Elway’s entire college career. They both came into the pros highly touted as #1 overall picks but Plunkett could play in a pro system and read defenses much better than Elway if you saw both you’d know what I’m talking about. It toook Elway until his 5th season to learn to read defenses.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Debo, Marcus Allen is the Raiders’ all time leading rusher, and it kills Al. That’s how much Al “loves” his players. Marcus was one of the greatest players to ever wear the silver and black and Al treated him like total crap, his entire career here. Anytime one of these Al shills tries to bring up this whole “al’s a players owner” thing, or “al loves his players”, just bring up Marcus and watch them scramble like mice for answers.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Just like the last election was a referendum on the prior idiot in the WH.
It’s all a bunch of games being played by the bankers anyway. No way the Reps turn around this economy with jobs still being shipped overseas.
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Yep,
Elections are always about BS promises that can not be kept.
Same old stuff over and over again.
The one thing that is certain however, the Federal Government will continue to erode States Rights via economic extortion, and grow itself.
All for our benefit of course.
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No way the Reps turn around this economy with jobs still being shipped overseas.
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Big Government in bed with Big Business.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Marcus said in his book that Al was treating him like crap when he first got to Oakland (they were actually still in Oakland then). So, what line did Marcus cross, guys? Getting drafted? Ron Wolf wanted Allen and Al didn’t. Common knowledge. Al loves his players…give me a break.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm
I believe that one of the biggest problems Marcus had with AD was a fellow named Bo Jackson.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm
what line are you talking about with Marcus?
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My understanding was he was boning teammates wives.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm
MB and other Republicans should have been careful what they wished for. They’re the ones who created the political environment of blaming the incumbent right off the bat, even for things they had no control over. That’s what they did to O., even before he was sworn in. they’re getting a taste of their own medicine, starting first thing tomorrow morning. They’re not going to like it. Hope they have thick skins.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Since theres no BBALL on tonight when I get home i’ll crack a beer and watch all these Dems that wrecked the economy & bankrupted us get voted out of office. Its a great day to celebrate the Raiders 1 game win streak and the end of Socialism!
FOX allnight!
mope & change! peace out libtards!
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Drexl, Bo wasn’t here when Allen first got here. Allen said Davis didn’t like him from the get go. So, again, what line did Allen supposedly cross, when he was a rookie? Bo wasn’t here. No starting HB controversy. come on, quit reaching.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Nice economy this new Republican congress has going for us, MB. They’d better get something done, or else.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Did anyone else catch Bauce’s meltdown las night? The dude got himself banned.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
*2 game win streak
buh bye
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Paine, no, what happened? LOL. Break it down.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
MR=Idiotic
Reps havent controlled congress since about 2005. Feel free to pull your head out of your sphincter buddy!
LOL
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Nice economy this new Republican congress has going for us, MB. They’d better get something done, or else.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I loved Marcus Allen, but i notice when ever guys get into money dispute with davis, like sapp, or the are devalued they leave with an axe to grind.
In business there will always be disagreements over cash, who cares. besides we have no way of knowing what personal relationships are like between owners and players.
Isnt it the same on every pro sports team anyway. When a player is at his beat he is loved, when he fades, he is replaced, and then often disgruntled.
jerry rice was bitter over his treatment at the end with the niners, does it matter at all now?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Marcus said in his book that Al was treating him like crap when he first got to Oakland (they were actually still in Oakland then). So, what line did Marcus cross, guys? Getting drafted? Ron Wolf wanted Allen and Al didn’t. Common knowledge. Al loves his players…give me a break.
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So AL let Ron Wolf have his way?
Sounds contradictory to the way you portray Al.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
MB, get out of here and tell those Republicans to get to work. This economy is horrible. This is their watch. And the results are less than satisfactory. Maybe they weren’t ready for prime time?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
You mean to say AD hated Marcus from the minute he arrived in OAKLAND? I am of the belief the relationship soured with time. Bo was the tool AD could use to sit Marcus ass down. No Bo and Marcus doesn’t ride pine.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
MB. Republicans are taking back the house as we’re typing! We all know that. Every poll has this thing going to Republicans. So it’s their ball now. They need to take accountability and stop blaming the Dems that proceeded them. Are they excuse makers, or doers? They’d better get to work, NOW. Or else.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
You mean to say AD hated Marcus from the minute he arrived in OAKLAND? I am of the belief the relationship soured with time. Bo was the tool AD could use to sit Marcus ass down. No Bo and Marcus doesn’t ride pine.
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!00% true.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Montana felt shafted by SF as well.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Drexl, Marcus Allen said Al hated him from the get go. I believe him. So, just what line did Marcus cross? you guys keep talking about him crossing a line.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
We’re not talking about Montana and SF. Nobody in here made any claim to Eddie Debartolo being some kind of players owner. It was you guys who said Al’ loves his players. Funny, because right off the bat I can name a few great players he evidently did NOT love.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
MR is the biggest liar on this blog anything he says I highly doubt it. Especially when it comes to Big Al he doesn’t know squat. Anytime he says that John Madden doesn’t like Mr Davis you know he’s crazy.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
marcus allen vs. al davis….chemistry is overrated! just win baby
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Time to get the juices flowing!!!
http://bit.ly/c05e8H
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Paine, no, what happened? LOL. Break it down.
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Bauce came on here after the World Series ranting about gays and Giant fans. He said some pretty over the top stuff. His posts were immediately deleted, and he disappeared soon after.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Ha ha….NOW THEY’RE SAYING CHEMISTRY IS OVERRATED!!!! JUST A SECOND AGO THEY WERE SAYING AL LOVED HIS PLAYERS. TOO F’N FUNNY! CHECK MATE. GOD YOU GUYS ARE EASY.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RaiderChaos Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Time to get the juices flowing!!!
http://bit.ly/c05e8H
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Does that video make you aroused?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
We’re not talking about Montana and SF. Nobody in here made any claim to Eddie Debartolo being some kind of players owner. It was you guys who said Al’ loves his players. Funny, because right off the bat I can name a few great players he evidently did NOT love.
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Is this a joke? for every guy you name that supposedly doesnt like davis, real raider fans can name guys the love him to this day. besides does any of that matter?
Chemistry is overrated! just win!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I saw Brien at the SF/Oakland game. Had to be him too because I asked him here what kind of car he was in, who he was with, and he described it perfectly. He was pretty drunk then, walking around with a bottle of vodka, it looked like. Something clear. I think he gets smashed around the clock, and that explains some of his outbursts.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
OK, Al dislikes his players.
He screws them at every opportunity.
Ask all 3000 or so of them.
You sight SAPP, ALLEN and STABLER.
Stabler is in the fold. Sapp is a Buffoon, And Allen is on the outside looking in.
Any other sources of discontent RMR?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
378.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
Is that a confession that Raiders management is amongst the worst in the game, Raccoon?
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How would you gather that?
By what measure do you “rank” managment? Market area, wins, SB wins, YOY growth, popularity, Net worth, members in the HOF, ROI, Parking, age??????
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Ha ha….NOW THEY’RE SAYING CHEMISTRY IS OVERRATED!!!! JUST A SECOND AGO THEY WERE SAYING AL LOVED HIS PLAYERS. TOO F’N FUNNY! CHECK MATE. GOD YOU GUYS ARE EASY.
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Wait you are confusing post. i said chemistry is overrated ( i got that from davis) where did i say he loved his players?
i think you checked yourself, and if you havent you should.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Mistic, I owned you guys on Marcus. You said Al’s a players owner, now you’re saying chemistry isn’t everything, meaning he obviously doesn’t love his players. There’s a lot of conflict in the Raiders locker room, between Al and players. You totally changed positions. That means I just put my foot in your rear in this debate. You want more?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Ha ha….NOW THEY’RE SAYING CHEMISTRY IS OVERRATED!!!! JUST A SECOND AGO THEY WERE SAYING AL LOVED HIS PLAYERS. TOO F’N FUNNY! CHECK MATE. GOD YOU GUYS ARE EASY.
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Now don’t start shouting and prematurely proclaiming you “check mated” anything.
This isn’t some chest match on Market Street.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Ha ha. Too late, Len. Your boy Mistic already blew it. Said in one side of his mouth that Al loves his players, then out of the other side said that chemistry is overrated, when I brought up Marcus. Admitted that Al has it in for players all the time, and that he thinks it’s hunky dory. Total contradiction from what you guys were saying earlier, that Al loves his players. He doesn’t, Mistic just conceded to it, debate over. I’m Mike Tyson you guys are Mitch Green.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
There are 2 things you dont do with Al Davis.
1. Dont go public arguing about money or anything else with him/Raiders
2. Dont get more popular than him.
If you stick to those 2 things, you’ll survive. If you dont, he’ll effin with you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Mistic, I owned you guys on Marcus. You said Al’s a players owner, now you’re saying chemistry isn’t everything, meaning he obviously doesn’t love his players. There’s a lot of conflict in the Raiders locker room, between Al and players. You totally changed positions. That means I just put my foot in your rear in this debate. You want more?
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RMR you are a nut job, but fun none the less. Where did i say he is a players owner? I havent said that.
i will say this though, davis loves collecting great talent, and will choose that over coaches. im fine with that. Davis taught me that great players win the hard ware, coaches and schemes are overrated.
Much like your status as a raider fan
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
That means I just put my foot in your rear in this debate. You want more?
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RMR
All dressed up like Chris Farley in the Ninja costume.
Halloween is 12 months away.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Okay RMR I will agree Marcus hates AL. You also claim Sapp/Gannon/Stabler hate AD as well.
That’s four guys. Come on man, you checked yourself.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
LoL mitch green
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
MR, I guess it doesn’t surprise me to find out that Bauce is an alcoholic.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
I so hope Mandy Ross and Jadumbass are signed by shannyrats redskins!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
There are 2 things you dont do with Al Davis.
1. Dont go public arguing about money or anything else with him/Raiders
2. Dont get more popular than him.
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Which of these rules did Marcus violate the minute he showed up at Raiders headquarters? Because Al had it in for him right away.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
378.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
Is that a confession that Raiders management is amongst the worst in the game, Raccoon?
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How would you gather that?
By what measure do you “rank” managment? Market area, wins, SB wins, YOY growth, popularity, Net worth, members in the HOF, ROI, Parking, age??????
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
aig, you forgot the most important one.
Dont loose
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Drexl Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Okay RMR I will agree Marcus hates AL.
………..
The Raiders’ all time leading rusher.
Sounds like Al Davis really loves his players…I guess all of them except the good ones.
And, Al hated him right from the get go, so that flies in the face of your guy’s theory that Marcus crossed Al and that’s the reason Al hates him. What could Marcus had possibly done to Al before having ever arrived at team hq as a rookie?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RMR
Im waiting for you to show me where i said he was “players owner” or “he loves his player”.
Im afraid your claim to victory is under further review, and is about to be over turned.
RMR- Raider pass revoked!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Which of these rules did Marcus violate the minute he showed up at Raiders headquarters? Because Al had it in for him right away.
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You are taking the word of a disgruntled ex-employee. What ever you need to do to spin your tale of AD woe.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
783.mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
aig, you forgot the most important one.
Dont loose
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Reeealy?? What would he do if you lost? Cut ya? Reduce your contract? Bench ya??? tell me plaese?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Drexl, Mistic, you guys are excused. Game’s over. You want to stay on the court and shoot, that’s your choice. But you already lost the game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Sounds like Al Davis really loves his players…I guess all of them except the good ones.
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RMR,
The Spinmaster.
Marcus was the only great player. ever.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:18 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Did anyone else catch Bauce’s meltdown las night? The dude got himself banned.
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Really? do tell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Im sure Al is a jack ass, as many nfl owners and players are.
none of that matters, davis doesnt need to like you, players dont need to like him. This isnt the smurf village, or sesame street.
Just win
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Here you go Kell:
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Paine, no, what happened? LOL. Break it down.
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Bauce came on here after the World Series ranting about gays and Giant fans. He said some pretty over the top stuff. His posts were immediately deleted, and he disappeared soon after.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
RMR just because you say it, don’t make it true.
Marcus was a great running back, I am glad he found success in KC, did he get a ring with them?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RMR
Im waiting for you to show me where i said he was “players owner” or “he loves his player”.
Im afraid your claim to victory is under further review, and is about to be over turned.
RMR- Raider pass revoked!!!
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still waiting, you cant because i didnt say that, now slap your self and take a time out
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Here you go Kell:
His posts were immediately deleted, and he disappeared soon after.
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KK knows the drill all to well.
Test?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Mistic,
No Dont lose is just a slogan but Al is not consistent enough with that. Look at his scholarship players. I dont even consider coaches because they never counted for him anyways.
RMR,
Allen’s biggest problem was he was getting really popular. He was drafted a heisman winner and drafted in 82. He then won rookie of year and we all know what happened in 83. Then Allen (I believe) made some comments during the strike of the mid 80’s. There are other bloggers on here stating that it was some other personal stuff with sleeping with one of Al’s friends wife. I stick by my own observation that guys like Gruden was getting more popular than Al so he had to go too. One of the players recounted how Al was ticked off that 1050 AM had a billboard of Gruden and Al wanted that off.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Dont get me wrong AIG stands for Al is God for this atheist. I love Al and he gave me the Raiders. However, I am always cognizant of his issues as well as his achievements.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
# Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
783.mistic1 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
aig, you forgot the most important one.
Dont loose
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Reeealy?? What would he do if you lost? Cut ya? Reduce your contract? Bench ya??? tell me plaese?
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i dont work for the team, im just a well spring of football knowledge.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Kell, this was Bauce’s post at around 6:
Bauce 4 Real Says:
November 1st, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Anyways im bout to finish my drink at Ricky’s see ya later
He cam back on at around 8:30 spouting homophobic crap. He hasn’t been heard of since.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
There were no issues with Marcus until Bo was drafted. Marcus didn’t like splitting carries even though it extended his career by years. You bad mouth any organization and you will burn the bridge.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Kell, this was Bauce’s post at around 6:
Bauce 4 Real Says:
November 1st, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Anyways im bout to finish my drink at Ricky’s see ya later
He cam back on at around 8:30 spouting homophobic crap. He hasn’t been heard of since.
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Yeah, sounds like him. I amazed he and Norco Bob get away with the scht they do, here.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Talk to you cats later. have a good one
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Where has Norco Bob been? Or Beecham?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
It wasn’t Bo that ticked Marcus off. It was Roger Craig and Eric Dickerson, he had to sit for.
Marcus Allen: All Time Raider Great, top 5. What heart!!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Satelle’s knee must be worse than the initially thought, they worked out Groves today.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Mistic, I owned you guys on Marcus.
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You brought up one player. Marcus Allen. Who else are you going to bring up that’s a Raider? Randy Moss? Come on dude, the more you squirm the more ridiculous you look. Davis took back his team after the Gruden/Allen debacle and is now looking like a serious solid GM. More solid than a bunch of other GM’s. Everyone should be happy. Except you and Koolkell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
AIG, direct that toward Mistic and Drexl. They’re the ones saying Al loves his players. Sure, he loves them unless they get popular, which is an inevitable consequence with any good player. I agree with you, but why you’re directing this at me is beyond me. You’re contradicting a couple of serious Al shills who are in here right now. I’m equally as suspicious at the fact that they aren’t confronting you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Was any player or cach more popular then Bo Jackson and he loves the guy? Was any player more popular than Plunkett he still works there? How bout Nnamdi?
Howie Long, Daryl Lamonica, George Blanda, Cliff Branch Freddie B, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Todd Christenson. Darren McFadden, John Madden and he are like brothers.
It’s easy to make claims as long as you don’t have to prove them.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Was any player or cach more popular then Bo Jackson and he loves the guy? Was any player more popular than Plunkett he still works there? How bout Nnamdi?
Howie Long, Daryl Lamonica, George Blanda, Cliff Branch Freddie B, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Todd Christenson. Darren McFadden, John Madden and he are like brothers.
It’s easy to make claims as long as you don’t have to prove them.
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Same as you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Oh I forgot Tim Brown extremely popular and Tim has spoken out against Mr davis on several occasions. Nnamdi as well and he still signed him to a large contract.
Talk is cheap prove it!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Well KK prove me wrong.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Well KK prove me wrong.
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That’s a full time j-o-b. You lost all credibility with me, when you insisted, (through inside knowledge, no less) that the David/Kiffin fued was a media creation.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Wh else has been made to sit besides Marcus in your opinion KK? Since he always does this.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Like I need credibility with you get over yourself fool.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I’m sure this is old news but I just saw that Skins worked out Russell…
Jay zuz.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I’m sorry Kool…
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I get home i’ll crack a beer and watch all these Dems that wrecked the economy & bankrupted us get voted out of office.
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You mean the Dems that got us into two wars, gave tax breaks to the top 2% who never spent it, and quadrupled the national debt by getting us into two wars and giving tax breaks to the top 2%? Those dems? And none of that is even funny. The funniest part is the “home” he is talking about is some broken down station wagon parked under and under pass somewhere off I-80.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Raiders score 90+ and on a 2 game win streak. This or that don’t care. Just enjoying the victories right here, right now…
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Mista has proven himself a stupid **nt repeatedly. Not surprised he’s clueless about politics and supports the ***holes that got us in this mess.
IF he used reason and logic thru a quanitification of facts derived from the most diverese sources possible he’d come to the realization Republicans are Na-zis.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
rmr,
I believe you asked a question and I just answered. That’s my take of Al Davis (one insecure mofo). Some insecure people usually becomes bullies to hide their weakness and that’s my take on Al.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Mista has proven himself a stupid **nt repeatedly. Not surprised he’s clueless about politics and supports the ***holes that got us in this mess.
IF he used reason and logic thru a quanitification of facts derived from the most diverese sources possible he’d come to the realization Republicans are Na-zis.
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You would think so but he is sooooooo far down the food chain he still thinks the world is flat.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
AIG, direct that toward Mistic and Drexl. They’re the ones saying Al loves his players. Sure, he loves them unless they get popular, which is an inevitable consequence with any good player. I agree with you, but why you’re directing this at me is beyond me. You’re contradicting a couple of serious Al shills who are in here right now. I’m equally as suspicious at the fact that they aren’t confronting you.
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For comedic value please dig up anywhere that I said AD loves his players. You can’t.
AD will throw boatloads of cash at those he believes have TALENT, not because he loves them.
Your spin does not fly.
Just because you read Marcus book, does not mean you know anything about what AD feels/felt for Marcus.
As I said earlier acquiring Bo Jackson was the real reason Marcus hates AD.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Question for you all, since this seems to be one of the hottest topics on BSPN…
If Moss somehow comes back (noticed I said somehow), and he does great and the Raiders start scoring like crazy and gets us in contention for the SB…would you all welcome him back with open arms?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:13 pm
aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
rmr,
I believe you asked a question and I just answered.
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No, you teamed up with the other Davis shills, is what you did, even though you obviously agree with me more than you do them on Marcus Allen.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Seymour and Nnamdi…look at the bright side.
Starting TOMORROW MORNING, we start blaming MB’s Republicans for EVERY SINGLE THING HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, just as they did O. right when he took office. Beat these jerks at their own game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:37 pm
IMHO:
Dems & Reps = Corp America
-who pays for their campaign?
-who do they serve?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
706.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:29 pm
MB, O. isn’t running for reelection today. This is called a mid term election. Presidential election is every 4 year. No matter what happens today, O. is till president tomorrow morning. That’s what cracks me up. So many people trying to talk politics when they don’t even know the basics! lol.
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I don’t talk polotics at all. I leave that to the poloticians. That’s their job
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Is ESPN or NFL Network calling Sunday’s game the best match up of the week?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Raider O has it right. Good to see you don’t get caught up in a process that masquerades as a democracy but is every much the dictatorship anywhere else in the world. People actually think there is a difference between a Dem and a Rep…..LOL
I think Jason Campbell should start. I also think Michael Bush will play an important role this week. They should be pounding out the Chiefs this week!
HOpe they can stay on Bowe the whole game
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
After reading couple of Moss articles I’m thinking he and his agent got together after the game on Sunday and had a chatt that went something like this:
Moss: Holy Keerist Chilly is an idiot. I told him everything the Pats were going to do. I drew up diagrams, I detailed everything they would need to know about how to go about beating the Pats today.
Segal: I was there, I’m feeling you dawg, Chilly is a complete moron.
Moss: Joel give me a sure fire, can not miss way to get the f#ck out of Minnesota ASAP.
Segal: Welp, there is the Monday night chow fest that sweet family outa St Paul is providing the food for. You could dis them,,,,,,,
Moss: Na man you think, sure would be cold. I could say “who the f#ck ordered this sheet.
Segal: Yup, dude, throw in something about you wouldnt feed your dogs this crap.
Moss: Cool, I got this covered.
Moss on his way back to the facilities after out running KK in the Safeway parking lot thinks: “i’ll throw something in there about my pile being huge, yup, yup”.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Shawne Merrimen?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RMR,
Dude, go get your meds….You asked me a question below and then you wonder why I responded?
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
There are 2 things you dont do with Al Davis.
1. Dont go public arguing about money or anything else with him/Raiders
2. Dont get more popular than him.
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Which of these rules did Marcus violate the minute he showed up at Raiders headquarters? Because Al had it in for him right away.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
I like our young WR’s. I still question DHB’s abilities but when he caught one for a TD….I was on my feet saying “That was DHB!!!!!!!”
The young WR’s have helped the NATION get excited again. They are part of the reason that the Raiders are 4-4. DHB, Ford, Miller and even Louie can’t always get open and make bonehead drops but at least they are Raiders……Moss had his chance.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Shanarat’s secret plot:
- Bring in Jamarcus
- Bring in Moss
- Throw bombs all day
- Make sure food is good and plenty
- Call Al Davis and offer a package deal after winning the first game with both Jamarcus and Moss, a trade for Campbell and McFadden for those two.
Al will bite because Moss caught 3 TDs and JR threw for 350 yds.
In the first game back as Raiders, Moss quits after first play, in which Russell threw an int. and the Raiders finish with a 12-4 record.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Some quick points of levity here to ease things:
-Tom Cable at this stage is in the running for COY. Deal with it haters.
-DHB’s great game this weekend, was an average game for a great player. Love the kid and his work ethic, but talk to me when he strings a month together with that average.
-Bruce or Jason. 6 for one, half dozen for the other.
-Hue Jackson seems to be the biggest Bruce supporter of them all, more so than myself, AIG or anyone else.
-Marcel Reece has proven the days of a “true” FB are outdated.
-Our O-line has more first or second round picks than any other team in our division. And the lowest round pick of late (Jared Veldheer 3rd round) has made the biggest difference.
-I am wasted.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Should have also added:
-Jamarcus is still fat, and struggling to outduel QB’s without a job
-John Elway was one of the greatest athletes to ever play the position. Best baseball player, strongest arm maybe ever, 6th most rushing yards for a QB. Hate the guy, but he is the epitome of an athletic QB.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm
832.aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RMR,
Dude, go get your meds….You asked me a question below and then you wonder why I responded?
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm
There are 2 things you dont do with Al Davis.
1. Dont go public arguing about money or anything else with him/Raiders
2. Dont get more popular than him.
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Which of these rules did Marcus violate the minute he showed up at Raiders headquarters? Because Al had it in for him right away.
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Nov 30, 1986. Allen fumbles late, turning the ball over to Philly. Raiders had it in the bag. LA Raiders loose in OT. They were 8-4 at that time. Don’t think Al got over that one. I know I didn’t. Raiders went on to loose last 3 of season, and next three years were dismal. That game Plunkett hits Jessie Hester back to back bombs 49 yards and 81 on the next series. After that horrific loss, seattle beats them next week 27-0. Something strange happened that game in Raider history. Yes indeed it was a day of gloom. Puked all over the front yard after that game in front of about 40 family and guests. They knew how I felt.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
JFB,
I think you are correct that Hue may be Bruce’s biggest supporter. Personally I think TC is just as big of a supporter. It was AD messing with the coaches in the offseason again.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
one more thing Hue calls way too many passing plays when Bruce is back there. I’d like a little less pass and more running.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Raiders worked out Jake Grove.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I would love to have Jake Grove back.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
-I am wasted.
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On a Tuesday night????
Fitting right in with the locals, eh?
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
YoungAmerican says:
November 2, 2010 8:53 AM
Jesus, guys, I’m a Raiders fan and even I wouldn’t rank them any higher than 14.
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why not???
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When the Raiders can beat middle-of-the-road teams like the Texans, Titans, and even the Chiefs I’ll believe they’re worthy of #11. Right now I think they won a couple games that they definitely should win. I want to see them sustain this success before I say they’re firmly in the top half of the NFL.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
I would go to the chef’s game but I don’t have the scrap.
Ticket after fees and tax: $50
Parking (depending on the walk): $10-$20
Roundtrip Gas (135/25×3.20): $17.28
Frugal Eating OR One Beer: $8
Cost of an awesome day at the park: $95.28 for 1.
Cost of driving outside the radius: $23
Cost of watching at home in Cloverdale: as cheap as watching Teen Mom.
The games don’t sell out because it’s cheaper to drive to a sports bar in Cloverdale, Sonora, or Salinas.
If the league doesn’t outlaw the blackout radius, they at least need to reduce it to something rational like 20 miles. If you can bart to the stadium, you should have tickets.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Raiders worked out Jake Grove.
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# aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I would love to have Jake Grove back.
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Why? We got rid of him for a reason. He wasn’t getting it done. Nothing has changed. Do we need to replace Satele, Carlisle & Walker? YOU BET!!!
But, Grove does not fit into that fix. Loper or BCampbell will end up taking over for Carlisle & Walker. MHenderson is still very salvageable for RG or possibly RT. We need to draft Mike Pouncey with our first 2nd round pick to be our long term Center. In the meantime we should be checking out Justin Hartwig, the Ex starting center for the Steelers who was released in favor of Maurike Pouncey, Mike’s brother. Hartwig could keep Satele honest and work with Pouncey when we get him. There is also the possibility of moving up to get Stephan Wizneiski, the nephew of our own Steve Wizneiski. He can play center or guard and is top rated.
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