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Raiders live chat Tuesday at 11 a.m.

By Jon Becker
Monday, November 1st, 2010 at 11:12 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.

Jerry McDonald will be on hand around 11 a.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 2 for his weekly Raiders live chat. Among the items up for discussion are the Chiefs, Randy Moss and another impending blackout.

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  • mistic1

    I loved Marcus Allen, but i notice when ever guys get into money dispute with davis, like sapp, or the are devalued they leave with an axe to grind.

    In business there will always be disagreements over cash, who cares. besides we have no way of knowing what personal relationships are like between owners and players.

    Isnt it the same on every pro sports team anyway. When a player is at his beat he is loved, when he fades, he is replaced, and then often disgruntled.

    jerry rice was bitter over his treatment at the end with the niners, does it matter at all now?

  • RaiderLen

    Marcus said in his book that Al was treating him like crap when he first got to Oakland (they were actually still in Oakland then). So, what line did Marcus cross, guys? Getting drafted? Ron Wolf wanted Allen and Al didn’t. Common knowledge. Al loves his players…give me a break.
    —————
    So AL let Ron Wolf have his way?

    Sounds contradictory to the way you portray Al.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    MB, get out of here and tell those Republicans to get to work. This economy is horrible. This is their watch. And the results are less than satisfactory. Maybe they weren’t ready for prime time?

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    You mean to say AD hated Marcus from the minute he arrived in OAKLAND? I am of the belief the relationship soured with time. Bo was the tool AD could use to sit Marcus ass down. No Bo and Marcus doesn’t ride pine.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    MB. Republicans are taking back the house as we’re typing! We all know that. Every poll has this thing going to Republicans. So it’s their ball now. They need to take accountability and stop blaming the Dems that proceeded them. Are they excuse makers, or doers? They’d better get to work, NOW. Or else.

  • RaiderLen

    Drexl Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    You mean to say AD hated Marcus from the minute he arrived in OAKLAND? I am of the belief the relationship soured with time. Bo was the tool AD could use to sit Marcus ass down. No Bo and Marcus doesn’t ride pine.
    ————————–
    !00% true.

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    Montana felt shafted by SF as well.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    Drexl, Marcus Allen said Al hated him from the get go. I believe him. So, just what line did Marcus cross? you guys keep talking about him crossing a line.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    We’re not talking about Montana and SF. Nobody in here made any claim to Eddie Debartolo being some kind of players owner. It was you guys who said Al’ loves his players. Funny, because right off the bat I can name a few great players he evidently did NOT love.

  • priesttj

    MR is the biggest liar on this blog anything he says I highly doubt it. Especially when it comes to Big Al he doesn’t know squat. Anytime he says that John Madden doesn’t like Mr Davis you know he’s crazy.

  • mistic1

    marcus allen vs. al davis….chemistry is overrated! just win baby

  • http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com RaiderChaos

    Time to get the juices flowing!!!

    http://bit.ly/c05e8H

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    Paine, no, what happened? LOL. Break it down.
    ———————
    Bauce came on here after the World Series ranting about gays and Giant fans. He said some pretty over the top stuff. His posts were immediately deleted, and he disappeared soon after.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    Ha ha….NOW THEY’RE SAYING CHEMISTRY IS OVERRATED!!!! JUST A SECOND AGO THEY WERE SAYING AL LOVED HIS PLAYERS. TOO F’N FUNNY! CHECK MATE. GOD YOU GUYS ARE EASY.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    RaiderChaos Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    Time to get the juices flowing!!!

    http://bit.ly/c05e8H
    ————————–
    Does that video make you aroused?

  • mistic1

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    We’re not talking about Montana and SF. Nobody in here made any claim to Eddie Debartolo being some kind of players owner. It was you guys who said Al’ loves his players. Funny, because right off the bat I can name a few great players he evidently did NOT love.
    =============================================================

    Is this a joke? for every guy you name that supposedly doesnt like davis, real raider fans can name guys the love him to this day. besides does any of that matter?

    Chemistry is overrated! just win!

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    I saw Brien at the SF/Oakland game. Had to be him too because I asked him here what kind of car he was in, who he was with, and he described it perfectly. He was pretty drunk then, walking around with a bottle of vodka, it looked like. Something clear. I think he gets smashed around the clock, and that explains some of his outbursts.

  • RaiderLen

    OK, Al dislikes his players.

    He screws them at every opportunity.

    Ask all 3000 or so of them.

    You sight SAPP, ALLEN and STABLER.

    Stabler is in the fold. Sapp is a Buffoon, And Allen is on the outside looking in.

    Any other sources of discontent RMR?

  • Dirtiest Raccoon

    378.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
    Is that a confession that Raiders management is amongst the worst in the game, Raccoon?

    *************************

    How would you gather that?

    By what measure do you “rank” managment? Market area, wins, SB wins, YOY growth, popularity, Net worth, members in the HOF, ROI, Parking, age??????

  • mistic1

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Ha ha….NOW THEY’RE SAYING CHEMISTRY IS OVERRATED!!!! JUST A SECOND AGO THEY WERE SAYING AL LOVED HIS PLAYERS. TOO F’N FUNNY! CHECK MATE. GOD YOU GUYS ARE EASY.
    ===========================================================
    Wait you are confusing post. i said chemistry is overrated ( i got that from davis) where did i say he loved his players?

    i think you checked yourself, and if you havent you should.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    Mistic, I owned you guys on Marcus. You said Al’s a players owner, now you’re saying chemistry isn’t everything, meaning he obviously doesn’t love his players. There’s a lot of conflict in the Raiders locker room, between Al and players. You totally changed positions. That means I just put my foot in your rear in this debate. You want more?

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Ha ha….NOW THEY’RE SAYING CHEMISTRY IS OVERRATED!!!! JUST A SECOND AGO THEY WERE SAYING AL LOVED HIS PLAYERS. TOO F’N FUNNY! CHECK MATE. GOD YOU GUYS ARE EASY.
    ——————–
    Now don’t start shouting and prematurely proclaiming you “check mated” anything.
    This isn’t some chest match on Market Street.

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    Ha ha. Too late, Len. Your boy Mistic already blew it. Said in one side of his mouth that Al loves his players, then out of the other side said that chemistry is overrated, when I brought up Marcus. Admitted that Al has it in for players all the time, and that he thinks it’s hunky dory. Total contradiction from what you guys were saying earlier, that Al loves his players. He doesn’t, Mistic just conceded to it, debate over. I’m Mike Tyson you guys are Mitch Green.

  • aig-raiders

    There are 2 things you dont do with Al Davis.

    1. Dont go public arguing about money or anything else with him/Raiders
    2. Dont get more popular than him.

    If you stick to those 2 things, you’ll survive. If you dont, he’ll effin with you.

  • mistic1

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Mistic, I owned you guys on Marcus. You said Al’s a players owner, now you’re saying chemistry isn’t everything, meaning he obviously doesn’t love his players. There’s a lot of conflict in the Raiders locker room, between Al and players. You totally changed positions. That means I just put my foot in your rear in this debate. You want more?
    ===========================================================

    RMR you are a nut job, but fun none the less. Where did i say he is a players owner? I havent said that.

    i will say this though, davis loves collecting great talent, and will choose that over coaches. im fine with that. Davis taught me that great players win the hard ware, coaches and schemes are overrated.

    Much like your status as a raider fan

  • RaiderLen

    That means I just put my foot in your rear in this debate. You want more?
    ————————–
    RMR
    All dressed up like Chris Farley in the Ninja costume.

    Halloween is 12 months away.

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    Okay RMR I will agree Marcus hates AL. You also claim Sapp/Gannon/Stabler hate AD as well.
    That’s four guys. Come on man, you checked yourself.

  • mistic1

    LoL mitch green

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    MR, I guess it doesn’t surprise me to find out that Bauce is an alcoholic.

  • Carl Weathers

    I so hope Mandy Ross and Jadumbass are signed by shannyrats redskins!

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    There are 2 things you dont do with Al Davis.

    1. Dont go public arguing about money or anything else with him/Raiders
    2. Dont get more popular than him.

    ……………….

    Which of these rules did Marcus violate the minute he showed up at Raiders headquarters? Because Al had it in for him right away.

  • Dirtiest Raccoon

    378.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 am
    Is that a confession that Raiders management is amongst the worst in the game, Raccoon?

    *************************

    How would you gather that?

    By what measure do you “rank” managment? Market area, wins, SB wins, YOY growth, popularity, Net worth, members in the HOF, ROI, Parking, age??????

  • mistic1

    aig, you forgot the most important one.

    Dont loose

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    Drexl Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Okay RMR I will agree Marcus hates AL.

    ………..

    The Raiders’ all time leading rusher.

    Sounds like Al Davis really loves his players…I guess all of them except the good ones.

    And, Al hated him right from the get go, so that flies in the face of your guy’s theory that Marcus crossed Al and that’s the reason Al hates him. What could Marcus had possibly done to Al before having ever arrived at team hq as a rookie?

  • mistic1

    RMR

    Im waiting for you to show me where i said he was “players owner” or “he loves his player”.

    Im afraid your claim to victory is under further review, and is about to be over turned.

    RMR- Raider pass revoked!!!

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Which of these rules did Marcus violate the minute he showed up at Raiders headquarters? Because Al had it in for him right away.
    —————–
    You are taking the word of a disgruntled ex-employee. What ever you need to do to spin your tale of AD woe.

  • Dirtiest Raccoon

    783.mistic1 Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    aig, you forgot the most important one.

    Dont loose

    ***************

    Reeealy?? What would he do if you lost? Cut ya? Reduce your contract? Bench ya??? tell me plaese?

  • http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/ The Real MaddenRaider

    Drexl, Mistic, you guys are excused. Game’s over. You want to stay on the court and shoot, that’s your choice. But you already lost the game.

  • RaiderLen

    Sounds like Al Davis really loves his players…I guess all of them except the good ones.
    ———————–
    RMR,

    The Spinmaster.

    Marcus was the only great player. ever.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Did anyone else catch Bauce’s meltdown las night? The dude got himself banned.
    ——————————–
    Really? do tell.

  • mistic1

    Im sure Al is a jack ass, as many nfl owners and players are.

    none of that matters, davis doesnt need to like you, players dont need to like him. This isnt the smurf village, or sesame street.

    Just win

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Here you go Kell:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    Paine, no, what happened? LOL. Break it down.
    ———————
    Bauce came on here after the World Series ranting about gays and Giant fans. He said some pretty over the top stuff. His posts were immediately deleted, and he disappeared soon after.

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    RMR just because you say it, don’t make it true.
    Marcus was a great running back, I am glad he found success in KC, did he get a ring with them?

  • mistic1

    # mistic1 Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    RMR

    Im waiting for you to show me where i said he was “players owner” or “he loves his player”.

    Im afraid your claim to victory is under further review, and is about to be over turned.

    RMR- Raider pass revoked!!!
    =========================================================

    still waiting, you cant because i didnt say that, now slap your self and take a time out

  • http://blackhole@aldavisshouldbeonmountrushmore Drexl

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    Here you go Kell:
    His posts were immediately deleted, and he disappeared soon after.
    ——————
    KK knows the drill all to well.

    Test?

  • aig-raiders

    Mistic,

    No Dont lose is just a slogan but Al is not consistent enough with that. Look at his scholarship players. I dont even consider coaches because they never counted for him anyways.

    RMR,

    Allen’s biggest problem was he was getting really popular. He was drafted a heisman winner and drafted in 82. He then won rookie of year and we all know what happened in 83. Then Allen (I believe) made some comments during the strike of the mid 80′s. There are other bloggers on here stating that it was some other personal stuff with sleeping with one of Al’s friends wife. I stick by my own observation that guys like Gruden was getting more popular than Al so he had to go too. One of the players recounted how Al was ticked off that 1050 AM had a billboard of Gruden and Al wanted that off.

  • aig-raiders

    Dont get me wrong AIG stands for Al is God for this atheist. I love Al and he gave me the Raiders. However, I am always cognizant of his issues as well as his achievements.

  • mistic1

    # Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    783.mistic1 Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    aig, you forgot the most important one.

    Dont loose

    ***************

    Reeealy?? What would he do if you lost? Cut ya? Reduce your contract? Bench ya??? tell me plaese?
    ==========================================================

    i dont work for the team, im just a well spring of football knowledge.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Kell, this was Bauce’s post at around 6:

    Bauce 4 Real Says:
    November 1st, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    Anyways im bout to finish my drink at Ricky’s see ya later

    He cam back on at around 8:30 spouting homophobic crap. He hasn’t been heard of since.

  • LTR

    There were no issues with Marcus until Bo was drafted. Marcus didn’t like splitting carries even though it extended his career by years. You bad mouth any organization and you will burn the bridge.