Davis’ selection of Jackson key to 4-4
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, November 2nd, 2010 at 7:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A 4-4 record isn’t cause for celebrating as they will on Market Street Wednesday, but for most anyone who has followed the Oakland Raiders since 2002, it’s worth at least a sigh of relief and a feeling of promise that lies ahead.
No need to rehash the ugly details, other than the man who by virtue of his position at the top who gets most of the blame ought to be awarded some credit for getting the Raiders to somewhere approaching respectability.
The Al Davis dividing lines are pretty clear. He’s either the doddering old man responsible for the cliff dive of a once-proud franchise or the savant who has endured bad luck and endless conspiracies to find his franchise in the dumper.
Even Davis, if he made himself available to the media, probably wouldn’t say the Raiders are back until they’re in the postseason, and with a .500 record after eight games, it’s far from guaranteed the Raiders will get there this year.
But to get this far, it’s impossible not to acknowledge that Davis’ decision to retain Tom Cable and bring in Hue Jackson as offensive coordinator has been one of the biggest reasons his team has gone from laughingstock to trendy contender.
Rather than make another coaching change at season’s end, Davis chose to keep the embattled Cable and allow him to concentrate on the overall picture. Cable has one of those personalities who would rather add duties to his own job description rather then delegate. It was clear by the end of the 2009 season that Cable would delegate or be gone; he conceded at his season-ending press conference he thought he’d done too much.
In came Jackson, and while it’s not the Raider way to talk about how that transpired, the new offensive coordinator made it clear before being forced to take a temporary vow of silence that it all happened following a lengthy interview with Davis.
So here we go again. Davis, hiring a coordinator his head coach didn’t necessarily want and expecting it to work.
Except through eight games, it’s been a huge upgrade. Cable seems adept at handling a roster similar to the way Jimmy Johnson did with Dallas, entrusting his coordinators, taking a view of the overall picture, and occasionally getting down and dirty with his specialty on the offensive line.
Jackson had little play-calling experience, serving briefly behind Steve Spurrier in Washington and Bobby Petrino in Atlanta as a non-play-calling coordinator. But his learning curve is impressive of late, considering the 1,045 yards of total offense racked up in wins over Denver and Seattle.
Jackson has gotten dramatic improvement from a Raiders offense despite using two quarterbacks, not having a veteran wide receiver and breaking in a rookie left tackle in Jared Veldheer. He’s incorporated some power blocking schemes with Cable’s stretch-and-cut zone.
Darren McFadden has blossomed. Fullback Marcel Reece is being put in positions to utilize his unique skill set.
Most important, the Raiders are getting into the end zone. If you recall, Davis’ simplistic but accurate criticism of his last few head coaches has been, “We’ve got to score.”
How about 21 touchdowns through eight games _ that’s four more touchdowns than they scored all last seasons. That puts the Raiders on pace for 40 touchdowns or more, a figure they haven’t reached since getting 53 in 2002, and we all remember what happened that season.
Here’s a look at where the Raiders are through eight games with Jackson as opposed to their output last season and their rank in the NFL:
Total offense: 2010_8th, 366.0; 2009_31st, 266.0
Points per game: 2010_4th, 26.5; 2009_31st, 12.3
First downs per game: 2010_10th, 20.1; 2009_31st, 14.6
Rushing yards per game: 2010_2nd, 168.5; 2009_21st, 106.3
Rushing touchdowns: 2010_tie, 2nd, 9; 2009_27th, 7
Passing yards per game: 2010_20th, 197.5; 2009_29th, 159.8
Third-down pct_2010_20th, 34.7 percent; 2009_30th_29.6 percent
Time of possession:2010_8th, 32:14; 2009_27th, 28:18
Touchdowns: 2010_4th, 21; 2009_31st, 17
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November 2nd, 2010 at 7:42 pm
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November 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
YoungAmerican says:
November 2, 2010 8:53 AM
Jesus, guys, I’m a Raiders fan and even I wouldn’t rank them any higher than 14.
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why not???
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When the Raiders can beat middle-of-the-road teams like the Texans, Titans, and even the Chiefs I’ll believe they’re worthy of #11. Right now I think they won a couple games that they definitely should win. I want to see them sustain this success before I say they’re firmly in the top half of the NFL.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Thats what I want to say about the Raiders in the AFC West.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Jake Grove would be a great low-risk addition for depth at the center position. Especially if Veldheer is firmly entrenched at left tackle now.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I’d like to give Hue all the credit but getting rid of JAFUMBLE with Grads last year showes a big part of the problem
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
This is a must win game. KC has beat SD, Cleveland, SF, Jacksonville and Buffalo. They look alot more solid on paper because of this. That being said, they have a stupidly easy schedule down the stretch, the only decent team is Tennessee. If the Raiders want to make a run at the West, they need to send a message and deliver a beat down to the Cheifs this weekend.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I have some respect for Al Davis. Where it is deserved. The maverick stance with the NFL, opposing Rozelle. Hiring coaches with decent tans, the original adherence to winning and excellence. But….
Moving to LA. The lawsuits, the PSLs, the inability to delegate, the inability to develop QBs, the stubbornness with people like Marcus Allen (just win-really?) the whole Gruden trade, the general disdain for the job/position of head coach, the scholarships, inability to share the spotlight/credit, I could go on.
But the last 7-8 years are his real (current) legacy. He allowed or caused the fall of this franchise to Lions/Clippers LAUGHINGSTOCK status. Inexcusable. No one on Earth keeps their job under those circumstances. I guess its good to be the boss.
I like his 2010 moves tho. Keeping Cable but forcing some style changes. The draft was good. Still could use a WR and maybe a GM, perhaps a franchise-all star QB but otherwise not bad so far.
Need to win the Chiefs game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:00 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Raiders worked out Jake Grove.
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# aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I would love to have Jake Grove back.
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Why? We got rid of him for a reason. He wasn’t getting it done. Nothing has changed. Do we need to replace Satele, Carlisle & Walker? YOU BET!!!
But, Grove does not fit into that fix. Loper or BCampbell will end up taking over for Carlisle & Walker. MHenderson is still very salvageable for RG or possibly RT. We need to draft Mike Pouncey with our first 2nd round pick to be our long term Center. In the meantime we should be checking out Justin Hartwig, the Ex starting center for the Steelers who was released in favor of Maurike Pouncey, Mike’s brother. Hartwig could keep Satele honest and work with Pouncey when we get him. There is also the possibility of moving up to get Stephan Wizneiski, the nephew of our own Steve Wizneiski. He can play center or guard and is top rated.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Grove left as a free agent of his own volition. The Raiders did not “get rid of him” as you say. Not to argue your point but he left.
If he knows the Cable scheme and can backup Satele while letting JV stay at LT may not be a bad idea.
Cable seems to have the OLine playing at a decent level currently. I am not about to claim to know more than he does about NFL olines. If Grove has value to us, so be it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Of course Grove would be a good addition. We don’t have a backup C on the roster.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Wasn’t Grove doing good for Miami before he got injured? That has always been a big problem for him. I can’t say I pay enough attention to see if he dominated the game, its easier to pay attention to the tackles.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I like the idea of getting one of those two guys: Wiz Jr or Pouncey.
I assume there is a reason Hartwig is unemployed.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
I can’t I recall a game Grove “dominated” he was doing great if I never recalled his @$$ at all.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Wow, checkout Jerry with the stats……..Doing your homework man! Good job!
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Yeah its easier for me to see if a tackle is doing well rather than a center for some reason. I’ll notice them sometimes when the announcer calls them out though. Its probably just me
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
# JLofty Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I like the idea of getting one of those two guys: Wiz Jr or Pouncey.
I assume there is a reason Hartwig is unemployed.
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Pouncey is a load and Hartwig is aging but should still have 1-2 years in the tank. Pittsburg’s O-linemen are usually very good. I believe Hartwig could easily become an upgrade for us. BTW, Grove did have a lot of injuries. If my memory is correct we traded Miami Grove for Satelle. I don’t believe it was a FA pick-up. But I could be in error.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Of course Grove would be a good addition. We don’t have a backup C on the roster.
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He could also play either guard position as well.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:36 pm
But really, what do our last 2 games mean to the outside world? People like Williamson on BSP and Jerry here who don’t really care about the Raider Nation, or the Raiders, but just gives their outsiders viewpoint……biased and no loyalty. Kinda like MR. Mr pessimist himself.
http://bit.ly/ajH9E 9
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
What these 2 games mean is that we are an improving team capable of dominating other teams. At the beginning of the year, and for the last several years, this team was nowhere near able to dominate their opponent physically. Now that has happened 2 weeks in a row. That means the talent and the coaching are getting better
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
This team needs to have the confidence that it can beat down teams. It needs to demonstrate it can win close games. It needs to show it can come back on teams late in games. It needs to string wins together. At that point, this will be a GOOD football team.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Chiefs 31, Raiders 13
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Chiefs 31, Raiders 13
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Al Davis 1,199,264,283,334
Real Madden Raider 0
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
LOL. Liberal media? All they’re talking about is how O. better watch his butt, because Republicans are back in town. When O. won 2 years ago, they were saying he had to hit the ground running, he had a mess to clean up, etc. Why not the same threatening tone toward the new Republican congress? Liberal media myth is a joke.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
MR, you predicted a Seattle beatdown too. Lets hope you are wrong again. I would like to hear the reasons you think we will get smoked this week, besides the fact that you are an insufferable pessimist.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Don’t need a backup to be dominant. Groves for 8 games as a #2 C shouldn’t be a problem. The point is to keep Veldheer at LT and Henderson off the field.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Al Davis 13, Chiefs 31.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:52 pm
100 percent, does anyone bat a thousand? Nobody is always right. Like I said, I’m right more often than anyone in here when it comes to predictions.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Ok, I just want to hear why you think they are going to lose. Solid football facts, predictions, statistics, etc. Not just a score.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Major rejection for pres purp lips today, everywhere he went that candidate lost…lmao
N Pelosi can go to a retirement home where she belongs.
What a great day, took the Country away from the grip of Socialism.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
The downside of a 2 game win streak is Seymour/OakGlen/Debo/JustWin fires up all his aliases and acts like he knows the game of football.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Its gonna be a great season to be a Raider fan. I sense something special about to happen.
the Chargers, Chiefs, the AfC west is taking a collective gulp and so will the rest of the NFL soon enough.
you heard it from me, mark my words!
they are gonna….(gulp)
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
It wouldn’t be possible to give an accurate prediction only factoring in x’s and o’s, because coaches make decisions, and in some organizations, GM’s or owners make decisions for coaches, the Raiders notoriously being one of them. X’s and O’s and football skills, I think the Chiefs are a little better than us. And if you take Al Davis’s meddling out of the equation, I’d call it a toss up. Especially considering what the Raiders have on the line. But Al Davis is as involved as ever, per his own words. And as AIG said earlier, Al doesn’t like anyone being bigger than him. Hue Jackson’s name’s being thrown around a lot. I have a feeling this week, Al takes over the offense, and orders Hue to run some of that old vertical stuff, which of course doesn’t work these days. Again, I can not make a prediction without factoring these things in because they do affect the outcome of the game. To make a prediction based on x’s and o’s, and player ability only, would be to pretend that coaches and GM decisions have no weight, and that’s just not realistic. Sorry.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
NBA news:
Miami & Boston, baby!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
whats up Brown ???
it’s a great day for America
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
So your reason is Al Davis?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Look who just crawled out from the homeless camp: mistabrown the blog clown! So, back to gridlock and the same policies that ruined the country! Only an idiot would celebrate that. No wonder you are celebrating.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
So your reason is Al Davis?
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Absolutely.
“Al Davis IS The Raiders.”
Right or wrong?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 pm
This economy SUCKS. Where is this Republican congress? I don’t see any improvement.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Major rejection for pres purp lips today, everywhere he went that candidate lost…lmao
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He’s still president, and will be for 6 more years. Republicans won’t take control of senate, so there’s no point in even pipe dreaming about impeachment. This new Republican congress can either be a congress of do, or don’t. They need to pass bills that the Democratic senate and the Democratic president will approve of, or it’s going to be short party for them.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Rmr you still trying to sell that trash about me sying ” davis loves his players”? I never said that & you know it. Davis loves winning & he loves collecting great talent, he loves beating the hell out of impostor fans like you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
on my Saturday evening post before Seahawks game, for anybody willing to verify, I did predict a DHB TD on a long pass and his involvement in an end around play.
i wasn’t completely right, but its like getting a couple lotto numbers just one number off and a couple correct.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Mistic, I’m sorry if it wasn’t you who said Al Davis loves his players. Somebody said it. It it wasn’t you, fair enough. I knew you were too smart to say something that fanatical and make believe. Al Davis couldn’t care less about his players. Al Davis loves Al Davis, and NOTHING else.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
it’s a great day for America
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Why is that?
Simply to repeal the HC bill?
What can we expect from the Reps in congress to get this economy back on track?
Or will the Dems be able to use the lack of Rep action on the economy to stay in the WH in 2 years?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Re Meg Whitman ….
Why would someone spend 120 million dollars to win a 200k job?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Hilarious Davis hired hu jack without input from cable! Excellent because Davis knows better than cable, and look how that is working out. All of a sudden dmac is a star, and dhb is on deck! Davis haters slap yourselves now!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:12 pm
RRS
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
AP is reporting the Dems keep control of the Senate.
Are the Reps really that excited about simply regaining control of the house?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
To keep a clown like J Brown from putting us further into the toilet.
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J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Re Meg Whitman ….
Why would someone spend 120 million dollars to win a 200k job?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
I think RRS and MB are celebrating the mere symbolic victory. They’re not going to like what’s to come for Republicans.
Democratic senate.
Democratic president.
They can no longer blame everything on a Dem controlled government, as they now control congress.
It’s a short, sweet victory tonight. Starting tomorrow, the heat’s on.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
I would give H Jack a C+ thus far.
DMAC is making this offense go. Take DMAC out of the lineup & what do you have…..the SF game!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
MR, i do agree that Al is the Raiders. But I also think that his control over playcalling is overblown. I do think that he has absolute control over the roster, draft picks and coaching staff, but I refuse to believe he controls the gameplan, especially at this point in his life. Gruden ran his own offense. Norv ran his offense. Shell ran his (Al’s) offense and that was the problem. Lane ran his own offense. He might demand primarily a man to man, single deep safety defense, but that sort of extreme control isnt really as existant on offense. Gruden is proof that Al will let a coach do his own thing if it works, and if it doesnt, he will be gone quickly. Hue is handpicked by Al. If we were 2-6, you would probably be right.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Mista,
I can’t really believe that you would support Whitman and Forina.
They just don’t seem like Raider fans, lol!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
J Hill, do you know how Govt works?
Rhetorical question, dont bother answering…
Reps can block purp lips socialism by controlling 1 phase of Govt IE “senate”.
Neither party can do anything now without the other so all the Reps can do is stand in the way. Thats why MR’s pining for the Reps to fix he economy are empty headed drivel.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
LMFAO!
You are certifiably retarded.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
It’s a short, sweet victory tonight. Starting tomorrow, the heat’s on.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
The verticle game. Yes, if we get a couple of those deep strikes down field as TDs AND WIN,…. what are the imposter fans and haters gonna say about the traditional ‘Raider’ Football? Is Al a genius because he intervened?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Not that the retread Jerry Brown is any better, but at least he is a politician.
Where is the young talent in California?
The candidates in general leave a lot to be desired.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Anybody watch the green room? It is pretty entertaining.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/raidersvideo
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
The repeal of HC begins tomorrow. Put it on his desk and let him veto it!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
I think it is good that the Reps at least get the house. Now they have to play ball. You can sit on the side and not play ball then blame the guys in power. Now that you hold power you have to show that you play ball or else you’ll get blamed too.
What’s been sad is some of the major bills passed were at one point GOP ideas. The HC bill is based on a GOP bill of the early 90’s. Cap and trade is a GOP idea. yet in the last 2 years, the GOP has been successful at playing the bully. The dems were a bunch of wussies. They ran from what they voted for. They deserved to lose the house.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
100PercentRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
MR, i do agree that Al is the Raiders. But I also think that his control over playcalling is overblown.
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I don’t.
I believe Warren Sapp.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
A c+?!?!? seriously?!?! Its hu jacks job to use the talent that davis picks. He has done a great job 92 points in two weeks. Yes dmac is the man but we didnt score like that when dmac was here & healthy the last 2 years
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Agreed.
M Whitman is a derelict but J Brown is a proven retard.
Cal voters are among the dumbest in the country. We’ve had a Dem state controller since 1974!
lol pathetic
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J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Not that the retread Jerry Brown is any better, but at least he is a politician.
Where is the young talent in California?
The candidates in general leave a lot to be desired.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Mistic,
I was generous with the C+.
DMAC gets 90% of the credit for the offense! You remember when he was on the bench right?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Meg Whitman lost because she handled the hispanic situation horribly. One would think she’s a lot smarter than that. She got what she deserved. How you can alienate one of the biggest group in CA is awful.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:23 pm
I’ve already admitted to you that I don’t go that deep into politics.
I think there are 5 dudes somewhere pulling all the strings, and all this is just a big distraction for the masses.
Local propositions and ballot measures ie Prop 19, yeah the citizens have a say, but the rest of it is all BS to me.
Only cat that made sense to me in the last 20 years was Bush Sr. Former head of the CIA is the perfect person to have a president. Kick arsse overseas and take names later. And deny everything, of course.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Whats the latest count anyway?
65 seats turned Rep?
lmao @ the rejection of liberalism/socialism!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Sapp played under Turner, Shell and Kiffin. It is pretty well documented that Kiffin and Davis were using the season/gameplan as a ppwer struggle. Would I put it past Al to have dictated a few plays while Lance was coaching just to prove a point? No. But I think theres a difference between him making a point in a lost season, and jeopardizing the last chance he might have at a playoff spot.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 pm
38.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 pm
So your reason is Al Davis?
…………
Absolutely.
“Al Davis IS The Raiders.”
Right or wrong?
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I remember a post you made last night saying you were a Raider fan. You hate Al Davis yet you say Al Davis IS the Raiders.
How can you be a fan of the Raiders then?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Bush Sr. was a very good president. It’s a shame he inherited the after effect of the Reagan spending. People forgot that Reagan borrowed alot of money and spent it on Defense to revitalize the economy.
I have always thought that most pres gets too much credit and too much blame. Bush jr is the only guy that I thought never deserved to be pres. He single handedly killed more Americans and put us in more debts than I have ever seen. Gen Shelton pretty much exposed that Wolfowitz, Rummy and Chenney were dead set on invading Iraq regardless.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Whats the latest count anyway?
65 seats turned Rep?
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It’s the same as the polls have been predicting for months, homer.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Bush Sr. was a very good president.
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No, he wasn’t.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Mista,
Dmac is the truth, all good offenses have a catalyst. But he doesnt call the plays or design the offense. The 4th and 1 slant to reece, the pump & go to Dhb, the reverses, the mis direction to z miller.
Cmon bra give it up hu jack is smacking the disbelievers.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
“so all the Reps. can do is stand in the way”-that is all they have been doing the last 2 years.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:33 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Bush Sr. was a very good president.
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No, he wasn’t.
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Please tell me why he wasnt. Back up your statement if you dare.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Mistic,
This offense is horrendous if you take DMAC out of the equation. So H Jack is ok with me he has alot of room for improvement but DMAC is making him look good!
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Lefty they didnt have the numbers to even stand in the way. Why dont you remove your head from your butthole?
Seriously how hard is it to be slightly informed in your own Country, lefty?
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Lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
“so all the Reps. can do is stand in the way”-that is all they have been doing the last 2 years.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Brown,
Dude, it’s not about allowing illegals to vote or none of that crap. People saw the hypocrisy in her. She knew she had an illegal but continued her employment on the cheap. When she decided to run for office, she kicked that person out. That’s how she mishandled it. She could have easily handle it much better than that. Being a business person, you have to know how to massage a situation. The election was hers to lose and she lost it because of how she handled her illegal immigrant.
Try not being such an angry person and analyze things for once. I know teapartiers are very angry people. I just wish they had some substance.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Aig Im not 1 bit angry I just cant deal with retards very well, dont take it personally.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Wrong ,nutcase.They filer-busted every bill in the senate making 60 votes necessary to get any bill to a vote-Oh,never mind,you don’t want to understand how things really work anyway.You,and others like you,are the reason this country is in the mess it is in.The stat is the same-2/3 required to pass a budget so a small minority of Nutcases stop the gov’t from functioning.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
AIG, don’t even respond to his point on Mexican Americans not supporting illegals. He pulled that right out of his culo. Every poll ever taken amongst Mexican Americans and Latinos in general support making path to citizenship easier for Mexicans than current laws make it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Brownie,
Are you serious? Coming into tonite, the GOP has 41 senators and they can and have filibustered in the senate. The only bill to pass without a single GOP vote was the HC bill. Everything else that was passed required at least 1 GOP vote. And you’re asking Lefty to get informed?
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Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Lefty they didnt have the numbers to even stand in the way. Why dont you remove your head from your butthole?
Seriously how hard is it to be slightly informed in your own Country, lefty?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:46 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Aig Im not 1 bit angry I just cant deal with retards very well, dont take it personally.
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Neither can we. And we have one retard in here right now saying that Mexican Americans dont’ support Mexican immigrants. Out of all of the retarded things you’ve said in you’re life, that tops the list.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Typical teabagger-uninformed and ignorant.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Brownie,
Try a little education before calling other people retards.
1. You call the HC bill socialism. Do you know who the Heritage Foundation is? They are a very conservative group and they were the ones that created the backbone of the current HC bill. I guess it’s only socialism when the Dems agree to it right?
2. It takes 60 votes for a super majority to pass a bill in the Senate. Scott Brown holds the 41st vote. So yeah, the GOP has threatened every bill for filibuster in the past 2 years.
You’re not very educated. I can tell.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Aig, morons like you think making illegals play by the rules and abide by the law alienates them. Good for Whittman if she alienated the hispanics vote good for her. Your point of view is whats wrong with this country.
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So, good for her that she alienated voters and spent $160mm for nothing? Does this guy EVER make a lick of sense? About anything?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Brownie,
I would stop digging the hole if I were you. You’re getting exposed right now. Hopefully this will shut you up on politics for a while.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Re Meg Whitman ….
Why would someone spend 120 million dollars to win a 200k job?
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If she’s so fuk’in good at creating jobs she should have spent that $130M on creating a new company & hiring a bunch of folks. No, for her it was all about her ego & she got stuffed like the Thanksgiving turkey.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:52 pm
This is one time when the phrase of “Good job Brownie” seems appropriate.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Brownie,
I would stop digging the hole if I were you. You’re getting exposed right now.
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This guy comes on here and exposes himself so much, you would think he should register himself on Megan’s list.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
What’s going on Nation? To any of you familiar with the coliseum, I have a question. I am buying tix for me and my Dad to come up and go to the Denver game. I have sat in sec.145 and sec.212 before and those were pretty decent. And of course there are plenty available right now and there are a ton of choices. My question is, what are some good spots that you guys like?
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Looks like MB bailed after I dropped my tea bag in his mouth on the immigration debate.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Meg Whitman, imo, was really thinking about running for Pres at one point in the future. I tell people all the time. Running govt is not like running a business. Govt is not a business. In business, you get rid of the weak. In govt, you have to deal with the weak. That is why guys who tout a strong business background usually are not successful at running govt. The ability to negotiate is very important to succeed in govt. People dont talk enough about that.
Benjamin Franklin was a career diplomat and politician. He didnt turn out so bad did he.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
aig-raiders Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Brownie,
I would stop digging the hole if I were you. You’re getting exposed right now.
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This guy comes on here and exposes himself so much, you would think he should register himself on Megan’s list.
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That is soooooo funnyyyyy Seymour.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
My republican friends on facebook are fuming about Brown and Boxer winning. It’s like they’re mad because they didn’t win every single election. They really have the mentality of children. They complain on their birthday if they don’t get the presents they hoped for.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Now we can see if Jerry Brown reactivates his 53 Plymouth. It probably has it in the garage ready to go. That’s what he did last time around.
On the serious side, he was the best Mayor the City of Oakland has had in 30 years. He can come back here to be Mayor again when he’s done governating.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Jerry, 23,000 season-ticket’s sold is a number that can’t be ignored. Not even by Al Davis. He either has to get out of his coaches & players way, or get the hell, out.
I think he understood that.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
morilla Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
What’s going on Nation? To any of you familiar with the coliseum, I have a question. I am buying tix for me and my Dad to come up and go to the Denver game. I have sat in sec.145 and sec.212 before and those were pretty decent.
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144, 145, 143 are excellent seats. You could go on the other side of the stadium which gets less sun and is the Raider sidelines. I like 144, 145 myself.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
A breath of fresh air – NO MORE MEG WHITMAN political ads!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Brown’s not giving his acceptance speech until the whore concedes. Hurry up, whore.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
god why all the politics talk heres the truth IT DOESNT MATTER nothing changes for the better it only gets worse with all these idiots sayin what ther gonna do and what ther gonna change ITS ALL BULL end of debate bring on the next story teller and lets get the same results and or worse…… So back to raider football…..
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:05 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Looks like MB bailed after I dropped my tea bag in his mouth on the immigration debate.
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NO WAY! The clown always claims he never runs!! Just another of the lies mistaclown has convinced himself is true.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
R8derdiehard,
Telling people not to talk politics is a political view in and of itself. You’re saying you accept the status quo, the way the system is. That’s a political view. It actually makes you a conservative. But if you want to keep pretending you’re some kind of enlightened independent, suit yourself.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
He ran, Seymour. He got thoroughly owned when he said that Mexican Americans don’t support immigrants. Did he not own a t.v. when the may day rally happened a few years ago? What a dumbass.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
no im saying lets talk football cause that stuff dont matter, but u do have a point my bad
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
144, 145, 143 are excellent seats. You could go on the other side of the stadium which gets less sun and is the Raider sidelines. I like 144, 145 myself.
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Yeah, I liked that section. It was a fun time, it was the Lions game. I went with 5 friends from Michigan who all had on Lions jerseys. That was a fun day.
I can’t remember, does standing only go to about 20? I don’t know if the old man’s knee can hold up for a whole game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I made an exception for myself tonite due to it being an important election nite.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:12 pm
R8derdiehard,
Nobody is stopping you from talking football. You’ll find life is much easier when you’re not telling others what to talk about, or do, or think. You’re not a moderator here, and this blog is almost ALWAYS off topic. So drop it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:15 pm
your right it is fun watching yall talk about nonsense keep up the good work maybe you could run one day you have some great views.Dropped!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Anyway, let’s get back to politics.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
lol!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
# morilla Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
144, 145, 143 are excellent seats. You could go on the other side of the stadium which gets less sun and is the Raider sidelines. I like 144, 145 myself.
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Yeah, I liked that section. It was a fun time, it was the Lions game. I went with 5 friends from Michigan who all had on Lions jerseys. That was a fun day.
I can’t remember, does standing only go to about 20? I don’t know if the old man’s knee can hold up for a whole game.
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Good point. The folks in those sections stand for the entire game.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Impressive numbers but lets not forget Mebane and later Red Bryant were both OUT in the Seahawks game.
101. Word
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
He ran, Seymour. He got thoroughly owned when he said that Mexican Americans don’t support immigrants. Did he not own a t.v. when the may day rally happened a few years ago? What a dumbass.
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Exactly. You listen to that turd and you quickly realize why the country is in the shape it is.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Another reason Raiders don’t sell tickets. It’s like they only target the teenage demographic. Most adults dont’ want to stand for an entire game. Yet you have so many Raider fans who never sit down. It’s stupid and childish. And, guess what, it doesn’t help the team win.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
You bozos aren’t going to get pot legalized? Boo.
What a depressing election night. This one’s right on par with when W somehow got re-elected.
Pot’s going down. The Republicans — you know, the guys who wrecked the economy, lie every chance they get and will continue to ruin the middle-class with their B.S. trickle-down nonsense — get rewarded for being the dead weight preventing the government from doing anything.
What a horrible precedent this sets. How will anything ever get done when the new proven way to win elections is to grind the government down to a useless, impotent blob so you can point the finger at the party in power and then take their seat. Of course, then those who you took power from will probably turn around and act in kind to you.
This is a dark day in America. Not because the Republicans won, necessarily (though their espoused economic plans — slash government spending in times of a strong recession — are exactly the same that put us into The Great Depression), but because of how they won.
The Republicans basically won tonight by governing the same way Randy Moss played football in Oakland. Being a total dog out there and then somehow winding up in greener pastures because of it. Randy sets a record for TD catches in a season and comes within a few plays of being on the first 19-0 team in league history. The Republicans wind up in control of the House and a much narrower margin in the senate.
Life. Go figure.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
I think its critically important to talk about politics anywhere anytime except the bar or shooting range…that never goes well…
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Morilla,any 200 section will have great seats.You are high enough to see the whole field,the player won’t be in your way,and you are still in the middle of things.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Thought for sure Prop 19 would pass. Tough brake for the pot smokers.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 pm
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
All the pot smokers got stoned and forgot to vote!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
You bozos aren’t going to get pot legalized? Boo.
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Where was the ad campaign? I didn’t see one ad. One thing I was looking forward to when I first heard this would be on the ballot is that we would at least get educational ads as to how marijuana is far less harmful than so many legal drugs, and the fiscal benefits to legalizing it. Not one single ad. There was no campaign for it, at least not on the airwaves.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
MR- it was the least campaigned prop on the bill.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
124. They got high and forgot.
Actually, they realized the f’ing Na-zis were getting back into power and would send the Federal shock troops to protect the Govs legal and illegal drug operations.
The Afghans somehow manage to get all that opium out of a locked down war zone don’t they?
Kind of like they did in Laos durng the Vietnam war…
Mm hmm. Exact same game and even some of the exact same people.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
I remember that guy who marketed “pet-rocks” and made millions.
You can sell Americans anything.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
# Raider75 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Thought for sure Prop 19 would pass. Tough brake for the pot smokers.
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Tough break for everyone. The fiscal benefits to legalizing are endless.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:25 pm
All the pot smokers got stoned and forgot to vote!
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LMAO!!!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
124. They got high and forgot.
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Dumb stereotype. A drunk it much more likely to forget to do something than someone who’s smoked pot. There was no ad campaign. That’s why it failed.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Hint hint Porter Goss, Felix Rodriguez.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_40
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
I remember that guy who marketed “pet-rocks” and made millions.
You can sell Americans anything.
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The rest of that saying goes “as long as you can show them how to pay for it on a monthly basis”. I’ve found this to be a very accurate observation.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
130. Agreed. Never under estimate the power of stupid.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
133.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
124. They got high and forgot.
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Dumb stereotype. A drunk it much more likely to forget to do something than someone who’s smoked pot. There was no ad campaign. That’s why it failed.
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Why was there no ad campaign (jsut straight answers please)?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Peace out Nation!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
A lot of people here against marijuana legalization drink habitually. Laughable that they would mock marijuana smokers for forgetting things. Half of these drunks here are divorced because they couldn’t remember to do things they were asked when they were drinking.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Maybe medical marijuana’s the way to go anyway.
Get a slick pot doc to write you a script and you may have a better chance of wiggling out of trouble with your employer if you fail a random drug test. If it’s legal for rec use you’ll probably have a tougher time with corporations who surely won’t come around so quickly and give their employees the green light to toke.
No medical mary jane here in NY so I can’t say for sure. What do you all think? Is medical bud ridiculously expensive?
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 pm
The “Low-Info” voter………..
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Lefty12 Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Morilla,any 200 section will have great seats.You are high enough to see the whole field,the player won’t be in your way,and you are still in the middle of things.
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Yeah, you have a point. I think that is probably the best way to go. I sat in the 200s for the Bucs game (Chuckies Return) and that was a fun time too. Good view of the field.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Many people were against it because it limit the size of the area you could grow.Many were against it because now they are getting good jobs ‘cleaning’(trimming) with no taxes and those would be abolished.Many were against it because they were afraid it would become big business and that would hurt individual gardeners.Then there were those who are just ignorant about pot.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
JB Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
I remember that guy who marketed “pet-rocks” and made millions.
You can sell Americans anything.
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The rest of that saying goes “as long as you can show them how to pay for it on a monthly basis”. I’ve found this to be a very accurate observation.
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Sad but true. Plenty of redneck imbeciles are running around this country. And they vote.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Doctors run AD’s in the local sports sections of the local newspapers out here, advertising Med checkups for medical marijuana permits, $69.00
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Doctors run AD’s in the local sports sections of the local newspapers out here, advertising Med checkups for medical marijuana permits, $69.00
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How bout the pot itself? Much more expensive than on the street? I’m sure it’s better and safer though, too.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I know a guy who had his medical marijuana card. Said you have to be stupid to fail at getting one.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Good pot. Not too expensive.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
# JB Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Jerry Brown was the best Mayor the City of Oakland has had in 30 years. He can come back here to be Mayor again when he’s done governating.
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Wrong buddy. I don’t know if you are actually from Oakland or not. But Jerry Brown was actually the WORST thing I’ve seen in years for Oakland. Most of the things he took credit for when he first got elected, were things that had already been set in motion before Elihu Harris left office!
Under his watch,
1)Rent skyrocketed overnight and massive gentrification ensued,
2)He almost single handedly has driven the A’s out of Oakland, by refusing to support a downtown, ‘baseball only ballpark’ right next to the restored FOX theater,
3) He did NOT bring any more retail to Oakland as he promised,
4) There were clear underhanded deals and favors he was giving to his buddies at the expense of the taxpayers in Oakland,
5) In his last year in office, the MURDER RATE went up to 150, higher than it had been since 1992!
And this fool was great for Oakland because of what again????
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Jerry Brown was a great Gov, and a Great Mayor Of Oakland.
Look at all the building on the Embarcadero, Old Town, and the New Uptown.
His main goal was to bring development and housing downtown, and he did that.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Armchair GM
We disagree. The fact that you think highly of Elihu Harris says it all. I’d imagine you are a big Ron Dellums fan too. I DO live in Oakland and have for the last 65 years. As far as the A’s go – screw them, I’m not a baseball fan. Murder rate has nothing to do with the Mayor. They keep cutting the cops back, what do you expect? He brought a lot of redevelopment back to the core city. And, as with the crime issue, the Mayor has no control over rents. As far as your point #4 goes I’m not sure of who you are speaking of but nobody has been worse than Ron Dellems – a Mayor, who was asked by the families of the 4 slain cops, to not attend the funeral services for the Oakland 4 who were KIA.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Brown’s not giving his acceptance speech until the whore concedes. Hurry up, whore.
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First class, as usual, RMR.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Jerry Brown was a great Gov, and a Great Mayor Of Oakland.
Look at all the building on the Embarcadero, Old Town, and the New Uptown.
His main goal was to bring development and housing downtown, and he did that.
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Ummmm…most of the development in the Uptown has happened within the last 4 years. There were not all of these restaurants in the Uptown, (right near where I live by the way).
He built new high priced condos but neglected Jack London Square, so now it looks like a ghosttown.
Jerry Brown is responsible for losing the A’s period!
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
I knew it wasn’t going to pass. I had hope, but knew this country isn’t ready yet. There is to much negative connotations with marijuana. Ever since the end of the prohibition days pot has been a scapegoat. The war originated through fear and racism. For over 70+ years the government has been feeding the public with lies and ignorance.
It just blows my mind that this country can’t learn from it’s own mistakes.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Armchair,
Jack London Square looks like a ghost town? BullS..t Barnes & Noble moved out.
Oakland A’s playing downtown Oakland, next to the Fox? If he stopped that, god bless him.
Later.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Armchair GM
We disagree. The fact that you think highly of Elihu Harris says it all. I’d imagine you are a big Ron Dellums fan too. I DO live in Oakland and have for the last 65 years. As far as the A’s go – screw them, I’m not a baseball fan. Murder rate has nothing to do with the Mayor. They keep cutting the cops back, what do you expect? He brought a lot of redevelopment back to the core city. And, as with the crime issue, the Mayor has no control over rents. As far as your point #4 goes I’m not sure of who you are speaking of but nobody has been worse than Ron Dellems – a Mayor, who was asked by the families of the 4 slain cops, to not attend the funeral services for the Oakland 4 who were KIA.
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JB where in Oakland do you live buddy? Rockridge? Piedmont?
And I never said I was an Elihu Harris supporter. And I never said that I was a Ron Dellums supporter. I think 99 percent of politicians are crooked and have their own hidden agendas.
Maybe you’re old and losing it buddy, so you’re seeing things that aren’t there.
And because YOU don’t like baseball, we shouldn’t care about the A’s and keeping them in Oakland. How retarded. Do you know what a downtown ballpark would have done to revitalize downtown Oakland?
And did you actually say that the MAYOR has NO control over CRIME! Are you serious! I’m embarrassed for you cause you’re you’re probably too far gone to be embarrassed for yourself.
Based off of that statement alone I can’t take you seriously.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Morilla, there was no ad campaign for it. No politician got behind it.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 pm
A 65 plus year old man just said that the mayor has NO responsibility for the cities’ CRIME rate!
It’s true, we shouldn’t always listen to our elders.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Murder rates typically match poverty levels. Oakland has a very high poverty level per capita. Hence, high murder rate. Makes all the sense in the world.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 pm
I don’t agree that a mayor has nothing to do with crime rates, but I understand JB’s point. Oakland’s problems are universal. There’s nothing unusual about it. Higher poverty, higher crime. It’s that simple.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 pm
And, talk about people we shouldn’t listen to, Jack London Square a ghost town? I was there about a month agao, on a weeknight, and it was packed.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Jerry Brown was a great Gov, and a Great Mayor Of Oakland.
Look at all the building on the Embarcadero, Old Town, and the New Uptown.
His main goal was to bring development and housing downtown, and he did that.
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So with all the issues Oakland has, we should applaud Jerry Brown because he built some condos downtown???..
Another example of why we shouldn’t always listen to our elders.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
What makes you think I care whether you take me seriously or not? Crime is controlled by the police and the courts. There are 3 major gangs in Oakland that contribute to the majority of the murders. Cutting back on the OPD will not make the crime rate go down. Actually, OPD is doing a great job with the tools they have available to them.
As far as the A’s go, I’ve already shared my opinion on that. If it is between the A’s & the Raiders, I’m a football fan and will come down on the side of the Raiders. If the A’s want to have a new ballpark downtown, let them pay for it, not the taxpayers. I now live in Montclair but was brought up in East Oakland. Brown has been the Mayor most in support of the OPD. I have firsthand knowledge of that statement.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 pm
JB Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
What makes you think I care whether you take me seriously or not? Crime is controlled by the police and the courts. There are 3 major gangs in Oakland that contribute to the majority of the murders.
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Nonsense. Most Oakland murders aren’t even gang related. I see you’ve been watching your basic cable scarefests on gangs, like the absurd “Gangland”.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Also, gentrification is something that was country-wide throughout the ’90s. Guess Jerry Brown is responsible for the gentrification that took place in every other major city in the 1990s, too?
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
JB says…
Murder rate has nothing to do with the Mayor. They keep cutting the cops back, what do you expect?
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Wrong again buddy…Brown came into office in 1999. By the time Brown left office in 2007, Oakland’s police force was 803 strong, a 25 percent increase from 1998.
Yet the HOMICIDE rate spiked 57%!
Being mayor is like being Al Davis, you have to take credit and responsibility for the good and the BAD!
You can’t take credit for revitalization but shirk responsibility for the homicide rate!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
As for you Madden Raider or whatever your alias this week…you’re entitled to your opinion, and I respect that because I haven’t seen you make any erroneous statement about Oakland on here yet.
I don’t know about you, but I’m closer to 30 not 70 like some of these guys on here. I regularly went out to Jack London Square and other places during Elihu Harris, Jerry Brown and Ron Dellums watch.
Compared to what it used to be in my opinion it is DEAD!
But what’s funny is you guys are talking about the Uptown and Jack London restaurants and what you don’t seem to realize is that most of these have opened up during DELLUMS watch, NOT BROWN’S!
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 pm
New Jack London restaurants…Bocanova, Miss Pearls, Cocina Poblana, Bracina, all have opened during the last 2 YEARS. Under Dellums watch…
Uptown restaurants and night spots:
Pican, Ozumo, Mua, Den At The Fox, Mimosa Lounge, Flora, Plum, Bar Three Fifty Three, The Fine Place, Bake Sale Betty, and I can go on and on….
all these places have opened up with in the last 3 YEARS. Under Dellums watch.
Again I am NOT a DELLUMS suppoter. His legacy in Oakland will be known as the ABSENT Mayor who nobody hardly ever saw.
But the reality is most of this NEW Oakland stuff we see has taken place during the last couple of years during Dellums shift.
I know because I actually LIVE in the area. I live off of GRAND Ave. by the lake right buy Broadway, which is where all of this UPTOWN development is actually taking place.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
*by Broadway
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Brown’s not giving his acceptance speech until the whore concedes. Hurry up, whore.
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First class, as usual, RMR.
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RMR not cool dude.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Further JB, Coo Coo Kell…
I know you guys are old and set in your ways, but here are some facts. You guys obviously know very little about politics..
Here is the TRUTH about Jerry Brown’s so called 10K plan for Downtown…
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/eastbay/inflating-the-numbers/Content?oid=1082525
Here is what it says in part…
Brown’s administration is trying to take credit for housing projects planned during the Elihu Harris administration.
In fact, Brown himself vigorously opposed one of those projects — the Landing at Jack London Square — after being elected mayor in 1998.
In the fall of that year, Brown testified at a court hearing in an effort to stop the 282-unit apartment complex along the Oakland Estuary, arguing that the waterfront land should be preserved as open space. But now Brown includes the Landing as part of the 10K plan.
Bill Claggett, the city’s former director of economic development, whom the mayor ousted in 2003, said that slightly more than half — 1,094 — of the 2,031 housing units completed during the Brown years should be credited to Harris.
But was 10K really Brown’s idea? According to Claggett, the answer is “not really.” Claggett said he and his staff created the downtown high-rise housing concept, originally for a more modest five thousand units, during the Harris administration. He said that they then presented the plan to Brown in the fall of 1998 before the new mayor took office.
“Jerry said, ‘I don’t know why we can’t have ten thousand people in downtown,’” Claggett recalled. “And I said, ‘Sure, we can do that; it would only take about 6,500 units.’ Jerry said, ‘Let’s do that.’ And I said, ‘Okay, let’s call it the 10K Program.’ Later, Jerry said, ‘Why ten thousand? That was just a number I pulled out of my hat. ‘”
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Chew on that seniors…Like I said, you guys are proof that you can’t ALWAYS listen to your elders…
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
stop being negative kids. the old raiders are back. if yer not gonna believe it leave it!
p.s. talk politics on cnn
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 am
I don’t see calling Meg Whitman a whore as classless, because frankly, I don’t think she’s even as good as whore. A whore couldn’t hurt as many people in a thousand lifetimes that Meg Whitman would hurt if she got what she wanted. I’m effectively complimenting Meg Whitman by calling her a whore.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 am
since when did whitman play for the raiders? and its not jerry brown its tim brown and jerry rice. duh! blah blah blah beat the chefs and take a break
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 am
We have a regular commenter here who refers to our commander in chief as “president purple lips”. I’m yet to see Sweep The Leg call him classless. Whitman’s a whore. She’s really worse than a whore. Deal with it.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 am
i love all whores that aren’t charger fans and dont care if weeds legal politicians dont make my weekend but a raider victory does. like i need a tutorial from a hater rmr
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:12 am
Phawk Jerry Brown!!
Go Oakland Raiders, Oakland Athletics, and Oakland Warriors!
Straight Up!
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:13 am
Jerry Brown was and will be a better governor than he was mayor of Oakland.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 am
al davis for pres!!!!
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 am
bbq kc
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:53 am
Commenting on the OP post by Jerry I guess he is right. But it is too early to crown anybody yet on the Raiders team. I say if we go 8-8 this season it would be big, it would be good and a definite improvement. We are not there yet. Yes I hope we are onto something but the season is at the halfpoint only. The last two wins were good and a novelty but let’s not get too euphoric.
Having said that, I think we have a chance to win against KC. They played well so far but we were surprising also. So anything is possible.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 am
# raidrum Says:
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 am
al davis for pres!!!!
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No politics. Talk football, please.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 am
My take on KC is that they are playing with a tn of confidence they’re not very talented but they play weel as a team. The key is to slow that running game. They run a lot of unbalanced lines. They want to overload your defense and overwhelm you at the point of attack. They just run it and run it and run it until they break you. The way you stop it is to score and force them to score which will take them out of that formation and make them do what they’re uncomfortable doing which is throw the football.
The Chiefs can be beat if we get on top of them with the running game and hit them deep with DHB and Ford. No one can cover DHB one on one and you cannot double him and leave Zmiller open. Another thing Marcel Reece is a devastating weapon because defense are not set up to defend the FB they way they have to defend Reece. They cannot put a DB on him and he’s too fast for a LB he is a matchup nightmare. His ability to catch the ball and run from the FB position is priceless. Because most teams have to focus on the HB very few teams can split out the FB and the HB. It gives us the ability to keep him in the game and split out DMC but give the ball to Reece or toss to DMC.
If you have all that and DHB and Ford outside there is no way to stop it all if you mix it up smatrtly. This offense has the ability to score 40 points a game with this lineup. If the QB is accurate and has a decent game. That’s why I would keep Campbell at the position because of his arm strength to get the ball into tight spots.
As Campbell grows more familiar and confident he will play much better as time goes on. I don’t think there is a defense in this league that can keep us under 24 points if we are on point. DMC and Bush are as good a tandem as there is. The OLine is making huge strides and allowing Campbell time to make plays.
Look out boy’s it’s going to get a lot better. And I havemn’t even mentioned the defense which might be better than the offense at this point.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:25 am
# priesttj Says:
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 am
My take on KC is that they are playing with a tn of confidence they’re not very talented but they play weel as a team. The key is to slow that running game. They run a lot of unbalanced lines. They want to overload your defense and overwhelm you at the point of attack. They just run it and run it and run it until they break you. The way you stop it is to score and force them to score which will take them out of that formation and make them do what they’re uncomfortable doing which is throw the football.
The Chiefs can be beat if we get on top of them with the running game and hit them deep with DHB and Ford. No one can cover DHB one on one and you cannot double him and leave Zmiller open. Another thing Marcel Reece is a devastating weapon because defense are not set up to defend the FB they way they have to defend Reece. They cannot put a DB on him and he’s too fast for a LB he is a matchup nightmare. His ability to catch the ball and run from the FB position is priceless. Because most teams have to focus on the HB very few teams can split out the FB and the HB. It gives us the ability to keep him in the game and split out DMC but give the ball to Reece or toss to DMC.
If you have all that and DHB and Ford outside there is no way to stop it all if you mix it up smatrtly. This offense has the ability to score 40 points a game with this lineup. If the QB is accurate and has a decent game. That’s why I would keep Campbell at the position because of his arm strength to get the ball into tight spots.
As Campbell grows more familiar and confident he will play much better as time goes on. I don’t think there is a defense in this league that can keep us under 24 points if we are on point. DMC and Bush are as good a tandem as there is. The OLine is making huge strides and allowing Campbell time to make plays.
Look out boy’s it’s going to get a lot better. And I havemn’t even mentioned the defense which might be better than the offense at this point.
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Good post Priest.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:36 am
I have a question about Jerry’s above article.He states Jackson was hired and Cable didn’t necessarily want him.Cable and Jackson worked together before-in Atlanta and in college if I’m not mistaken.We know Davis interviews all prospective coaches so isn’t it possible that while Davis required Cable to have an OC on his staff,it was Cable who requested Jackson be given the chance.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:56 am
Solid Post TJ….
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:43 am
Lefty12
So here we go again. Davis, hiring a coordinator his head coach didn’t necessarily want and expecting it to work.
exactly…they worked together before…more than likey Cable handed Al 4 or 5 names that he liked
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:59 am
“So here we go again. Davis, hiring a coordinator his head coach didn’t necessarily want and expecting it to work.”
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Scary, you just cant help yourself, can you?
You and moron Raider are snoozing away right now in your niner jammies
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:45 am
Hue Jackson has definately made his biggest impact on the practice field, livening things up, making people accountable and inspiring confidence.
His play-calling has had its up’s and downs, and realistically the SF game was one of the worst play-called games I could ever remember. The constant confusion in the red zone and need to burn a TO down there must stop as well.
But he is improving weekly it seems, and putting up mad points, so I applaud Hue and his work.
Sometimes, as Jerry always states, it’s not the X’s and O’s, but the execution. Hue gets people to execute.
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JFB, Plunketthead…whats up fellas?
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:56 am
Old saying on Wall Street:
“Buy on the rumor sell on the news”
I think you will see this, as September was the best Sept. for the Dow in 71 years, as the rumors of Repubs taking a victory seemed likely. Now that it has happened, I don’t think you will see any major uptick in the market as some expected.
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:57 am
Top of the morning Hwnrdr.
Heard there is some type of deal on tickets this weekend with a % of ticket sales going to wounded warriors or something like that.
You know anything about this?
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:59 am
Not sure about the wounded warriors part, but I do know about the buy one, get one free thing that was last week and this week. They’re trying to fill the seats…
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:03 am
It seems that the Jerry Mc forgot that Cable and Jackson have a history together dating back to college days at UCLA and that Cable supposedly trusts him. It’s not like Al went behind Cable’s back and hired someone who Cable didn’t know about, like, or approve of. Stirring up that pot of $#!+ again…
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:09 am
Veterans/military appreciation day it is.
I guess every team is doing one week of that, so good on the NFL.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:10 am
Ahhh…did not know that and that’s right…Veterans Day is next Thursday! Thanks JFB!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:14 am
I just read that Grove worked out for the Raiders yesterday. Baltimore tried him out but didn’t sign him. I guess he’s pretty much done in this league other than maybe an emergency backup role for a year or two.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:16 am
good morning AM crew
it’s a beautiful day.
the sun is shining, the birds are chirping and Prez BO has a lot of explaining to do!
Celts & Heat won last night. Raiders are about to crush the local Kansas Pity squad
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:18 am
JFB,
your boy Harry Reid is still the head of the dems
thoughts ???
in NM news … Viva Martinez!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:20 am
I just read that Grove worked out for the Raiders yesterday
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CW, Jake Grove?
who would we get rid of?
the only guy on the OL who isn’t contributing is Bruce Campbell!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:34 am
Rock,
My friends in Vegas are none too happy.
Rumor that some polls already had Harry checked on the ballot, and that he was giving out pizza and starbucks gift cards at the union stations to pull-in votes.
If your not cheating your not trying I guess!!!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Rumor that some polls already had Harry checked on the ballot, and that he was giving out pizza and starbucks gift cards at the union stations to pull-in votes.
If your not cheating your not trying I guess!!!
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LOL!
I’m not surprised …
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Hey Boys
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Good Morning AM Crew!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:47 am
I am surprised however, that Bo Pelosi has not checked in this morning to ask if Jake Grove can longsnap!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:47 am
I just saw that Jerry Brown went from what I thought was the mayor of Oakland to the Governor of California.
Thats bizzare!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:49 am
I thought AhhhhNuld was doing ok tanking the Golden State into misery, he had a nice PR “come visit California” campaigh, filled with moviestars.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:51 am
I met Jerry Brown once, in Jack London Square, when I was selling peaches for a local fruitstand many years ago. That man had an entourage around him. But I can tell you, that he is a jakass in real life and a cheapskate.
He’d never get my vote.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:54 am
JIMBO,HIS DAD WAS THE SAME.LIKE FATHER LIKE SON..
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:55 am
how many years of Barbara Boxer will CA tolerate?
SAD!
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
A lot of people here against marijuana legalization drink habitually. Laughable that they would mock marijuana smokers for forgetting things. Half of these drunks here are divorced because they couldn’t remember to do things they were asked when they were drinking.
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RMR
Do you happen to have a link supporting this statement? Any proof?
And did you state that you are correct in your predictions more than anyone on this site?
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:02 am
I asked last night, and no one really directly answered…if Moss was to come back, and we strted to win with him also…woul dyou guys accept him with open arms? And what about Shawne Merriman?
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Hey Hey Hey…. its not January!!!! No politics!!!
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Hello Hwnrdr,
Hell No, I don’t want either of those chumps!
Moss cuz he’s a cancer, and we know that he will play when he wants to play. And Merriman isn’t the same without the roids.
Pass Pass Pass
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:06 am
bcz24 Says:
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Hey Hey Hey…. its not January!!!! No politics!!!
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It’s the day after the election, we should be able to bend the rule for a day.
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:10 am
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November 3rd, 2010 at 7:10 am
new post!
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:02 am
I asked last night, and no one really directly answered…if Moss was to come back, and we strted to win with him also…woul dyou guys accept him with open arms? And what about Shawne Merriman?
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I wouldnt want Al to claim Moss off waivers and be stuck with his contract, but if we were to grab him as a free agent after he cleared for vet minimum, then I would be up for it. IF he performs sweet, if not – theres the door my friend. It would be pretty nice too because if he left after the year we would get a compensatory pick
Merriman – eh… I just dont see where he fits personally. I dont think he would unseat Groves/Howard for WLB. He DEFINITELY isnt putting Kam Wimbley on the bench. If Groves and Howard werent healthy yet I could see it, but no real use now. I see him ending up in Buffalo. They could use the help at LB
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:18 am
Morning everyone
I get to sit on my butt this morning.
Business is bad. I dont think things will change much in the D of C which means things wont be getting better anytime soon.
Globalism = End of American Prosperity
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:25 am
Moss is a decrepit human being, a miserable person at the end of his playing days who “plays when he wants to”
Al, please say no to Moss. He will cause trouble in the locker room and Cable will have to smack him around and we all know happens when Tom has to break out the pimp hand.
BOMAYE!!!!
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:33 am
Can’t ibabuzz.com afford a spellcheck app Jerry? encorporate? really?
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
DHB=Alvis Whited with worse hands. DHB is Alvis Whited version 2.0 and perhaps and even more unnatural receiver.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Tj,
Get back in the Sped Trailer.Mcfadden and Miller are legit NFL stars in the making. Ford and DHB would start for no other team, including St. Louis. Alvis Whited had more upside than DHB. Ford has shown flashes, but is not an NFL caliber starting receiver…40 points a game? Get a life.
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Is the team of the decades making another push for the AFC Championship game in 2011? Just like it has at the Beginning of every new decade? We have the tools, the play calling, and an emerging MVP running back. Just something to think about as the stars are beginning to align for the Oakland Raiders. The next 2 months will reveal the truth of this prophecy.
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