Getting beyond the rookie `wall’
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, November 4th, 2010 at 4:46 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and observations Thursday as the Raiders prepare to face the Chiefs:
— It’s the midway point of the season, yet the body clocks of middle linebacker Rolando McClain and defensive end Lamarr Houston are in theory near expiration.
They’ve been through training camp, a four-game preseason and eight regular-season games. At Alabama or Texas, the next step is determing where they stand in the BCS.
In the NFL, they’re only halfway home.
McClain and Houston were instant starters. Jared Veldheer, a third-round pick, will start his third straight game at left tackle. Wide receiver Jacoby Ford is in the rotation at wide receiver.
Travis Goehtel, a sixth-round pick, will play on special teams and back up at weak side linebacker in his debut after back surgery. Seventh-rounder Jeremy Ware will serve as nickel back if Nnamdi Asomugha misses the game as expected with an ankle injury.
Seventh-round pick Stevie Brown has emerged from the practice squad as a special teams player and reserve safety.
About the only two players who haven’t made an impact are Bruce Campbell, a guard taken in the fourth round who is being brought along at a more deliberate pace, and Walter McFadden, corner taken in the fifth-round who looked terrific early in training camp only to be derailed by hamstring issues.
The Kansas City Chiefs, Sunday’s opponent at the Coliseum, are getting similar production out of their rookie class.
Cable said the whole midseason “wall’’ was addressed with the rookie class last week.
“At this point in their physical season, they’re used to talking about bowl games and where we’re going to be on New Year’s Eve and all those kinds of things. We’re just at the halfway point,’’ Cable said. “So we talk a lot to them about how to take care of your body. It’s important that when you get rest you still have to rehab, you still have to get in there and ice and stim and get in the pools and do all the things that really restore your body, and they’ll learn to do that.
“And this class I think is a great example. They bought into it, and they’re doing those things.”
Once he reaches the field, Houston feels his rookie days are over.
“We’re halfway done with the season so being a rookie is done with playing-wise,’’ Houston said. “But in the locker room I guess I’m still a rookie.’’
Houston, almost invisible in a few games after getting a sack in the opener, has picked up his play of late.
“Every game you get to play you learn something different,’’ Houston said. “I’ve been playing about eight games. It’s fun getting into rhythm and pick up things and be able to understand what’s going on out there. It makes it a lot easier once you get your feet wet.’’
— Goethel, who predominantly played as a middle linebacker during the Napa portion of training camp, will be a backup at weak side linebacker against Kansas City.
That offers at least some validation to something I heard late in camp _ that the coaches liked Goethel so much they were going to make him a rookie starter at weak side linebacker along with McClain and middle linebacker and Houston at defensive end.
The plan was scuttled when Goethel’s back began acting up. Disk surgery kept him out for the first eight games of the season.
Cable said Thomas Howard, who missed the last four games with a knee injury, would play on special teams and be in a reserve role. His time on the field on defense is likely to be limited given Mike Mitchell’s ascension during Howard’s absence.
— Those who were limited at practice were WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (shoulder), center Samson Satele (knee), Gradkowski and S Hiram Eugene (hamstring). Those who did not practice were WR Louis Murphy (bruised lung), WR Chaz Schilens (knee), TE Zach Miller (arch), DT John Henderson (stress fracture) and Asomugha (ankle).
At some point in the recent past, Schilens surgery, originally described as minor and with a six week recovery time, developed into something more substantial.
Pressed about the time Schilens has missed, Cable said, “I think the procedure that was done was not something real minor or anything like that. It was fairly extensive, so it takes time.’’
— Cable said Asomugha is “much better’’ and has put some weight on his sprained ankle, although he conceded the cornerback hasn’t done any running.
Cable was tight-lipped about Miller as well. When asked if he expected Miller to play, Cable said, “Yes. But you know, it’s questionable, but yes.’’
Has Miller improved since Wednesday?
“Much,’’ said Cable.
-— Bruce Gradkowski isn’t starting, Cable said, because “he’s got to be able to do everything we need him to do and he’s improving, getting better, all that, but still, to say he’d be 100 percent, it wouldn’t be fair
— Punter Shane Lechler is enjoying the feeling of an important game against a division rival in November.
“It’s fun to be involved in a week where a game means so much,’’ Lechler said. “ It’s been a long time since we’ve done that. Anytime you got to play a team twice in one season, when you play them the first time it’s always important because it’s probably going to reflect on how you’re going to perform against them the second time.”
Lechler holds no hard feelings toward fans who have stayed away.
“It’s like you want to (tell) them, it’s `it’s OK to believe in us this year,’ ‘’ They’re still skeptical about us. And that’s fine. I understand the price of these tickets and stuff like that, but it’s good to have them showing up now.
“This game means a lot to us. We want to go to the playoffs. We want to be good. We want to change everybody’s perspective of us. We want to be No. 1 in the AFC West. We want a lot of things, but you can only go out and get so much, You got to win each Sunday, especially when you got an in-division game. We’re going to have to play our best.”
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November 4th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
“2nd?
November 4th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
No! 1st
November 4th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I AM A GOLDEN GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!8)
November 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Impressive that the coaches have enough confidence in Goethel to have him active so soon after coming back from injury. Looking forward to seeing what he can do. I heard the Raiders liked him enough to plug him in as the day one WLB starter, so hopefully he comes around quickly enough to make some starts by the end of the season.
November 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
“he’s got to be able to do everything we need him to do”.
Guess he wont ever play again, then.
November 4th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
mistic1 Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
priesttj Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Mystic1 Campbell is nt a bad QB and anyone who says he is is full of crap but he is still feeling his way. He has a chance to be goood even very good. I’m going to reserve judgement on great until he shows me he can lift this team to greatness. If he does that I’ll argue with anyone that he is approaching greatness. Because that all great QB’s do. He still is missing open rec’s and no giving rec’s opportunities to cathc the football which i think is that cautious mechanism in him. He has to give his rec more of an opprtunity to make plays. Then we’lll talk about being good. It’s not that he lacks the tools he just lacks the will to use them regularly.
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Priestt,
I feel you. It will take more than just this season for him to get to greatness here. I will never forget steve young and thiesman saying it takes a qb 2-3 years in one system before thy can truly let thier natural ability take over. Knowing not only your own assingment, but knowing everyone elses. Young even said that some times he couldnt see rice or taylor but he would throw to where they were supposed to be. Add that with knowing all of your opponnents and what they will do to try and stop you.
Those things you mentioned I beleive will come over the next season or so, as he continues to master the nuances of this system, and gels with this team. At this point we can see flashes, but it is clearly a work in progress. patience is the key,
But I am calling my shot, so if /when it happens I can come back a claim sweet victory, raider style.
November 4th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Schilens is a kool cat but man he’s killing me and it looks like he mite be gone next year…So can we pick up Austin Pettis in the 3rd round
November 4th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I’m looking forward to season two of Jason Campbell. He’s never had two seasons with the same coordinator, so who knows what he can actually do.
The coaches seem to have gotten through to him about not worrying about being perfect and just playing. He cut it loose last week. I’d like to see more of that against KC.
November 4th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
big pep Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
SnB Production.
i agree, i posted that news for mistic1 who has cam and other q.bs. in the big conferences as his choices.
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We dont need a qb in the draft we need o-line most crittically.
I touted newton for those who said we should draft a qb.
The fact that some one makes this claim against him doesnt change my opinion of him at all.
He is still the best qb in college football along with griffin and its not even close.
Besides even if it is true, how many college kids are geting paid at major programs? more than they want you to know.
November 4th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Game WILL be on ch.2 here in SO-CAL…
November 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I must admit it is kind of cool that players care about us showing up( or at least act like they care), it makes you feel like you are a part of it.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Snag Jared Gaither as a free agent to a one-year “prove it” contract. Have him compete for the RT spot.
Draft The Wiz pt. 2 or Pouncey
Draft an NT (I like Notre Dame’s Ian Williams)
Draft a FS if Huff leaves
Draft another G/T
Maybe sign Roy Williams if he gets cut, too.
Then all of a sudden you’re looking at a pretty complete team.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
You Oakland area folks gotta get to this game.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
SnB Production Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
You Oakland area folks gotta get to this game.
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I will be there, first time in the black hole!!
November 4th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Braveheartraider Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
“he’s got to be able to do everything we need him to do”.
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QBs have to stay healthy and Gradkowski hasn’t been able to do that in his 1.5 yrs here. Injured both knees last year, pectoral during camp, and now the shoulder thing.
He’s not a Peyton Manning established starter type, so him missing time hurts more. Now he’s got to get caught up again.
The coaches seem to favor him though so he must be doing something measurably better on tape.
But again, can’t help anyone on the bench and the team can’t have mid-season disruptions if the other guy is playing well.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Mistic,
I went to the Houston game when I was in town a few weeks ago. Had a great experience.
The local folks need to step up given that the team has stepped up.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Raiders
November 4th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Can’t help feeling that Cable is , in some way, relieved Grads is out.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
I had Campbell pegged early on.
He is a good manager of the game when he has good blocking and a running game.
He will make a few great throws, but he also will make some terrible decisions.
I think he can do a good job if he has help, but I just don’t think he has the “it” factor.
I think Bruce has more of the “it”.
If I were to pass out some rankings on the “it” factor it would be:
Joe Montana 10
Tom Brady/ Kenny Stabler 9
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Bruce Gradkowski 6.5
Jason Campbell 3.5
Jamarcus Russell 0.0
November 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Mistic1.
i for one could care less about drafting a q.b. i think j.c. and bruce can keep the seat warm for the next couple of years if we continue to improve, in the mean time we draft lineman on both sides. i aslo remember who your list of q.bs were, and i for one could care less about a run first q.b. that said if he was demanding money coming from a junior college, just shows he was to stupid to get in that school from the get go. and the whole nation knows we dont need another stupid q.b.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
A decision on Chaz Schilens has to be made. If this guy can’t go after the bye week, might as well put him on IR and wish him all the best.
The Raiders are still in need of a big, move the chains, catch and run guy. Waiting for Schilens prevents the team from making other moves in the draft or free agency.
The frustrating thing is that these injuries are all in practice.
They should have held him out until fully healed last year…or maybe Schilens is just to injury proned.
It happens….feel bad for the guy because you know he has to be sick with missing an opportunity to seize an NFL starting job….especially as a 7th round pick…
November 4th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
That offers at least some validation to something I heard late in camp _ that the coaches liked Goethel so much they were going to make him a rookie starter at weak side linebacker along with middle linebacker Rolando McClain and defensive end Lamarr Smith.
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Is Lamarr smith related to Hartwell Brown?
November 4th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
FUCN TIRED OF CHAZ (TAKE A ROSTER SPOT) SCHILENS. like i said he will make it back in time to play about 6 games at first i thought 8, catch a couple t.ds and gain some yards just to get hurt in camp again.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Braveheartraider Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
“he’s got to be able to do everything we need him to do”.
Guess he wont ever play again, then.
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Funny stuff, I disagree w/ you, but funny none the less.
I like Grads, he’s got intangibles that give him that extra umph that makes up for what he may lack physically. He gets the job done.
Dont get me wrong, I’m loving what Campbell’s been able to do these last two games – with a huge contribution from run dmc & the boys up front. But thats all we ask from either qb, dont screw it up, move the chains & just be a solid game manager.
Dont let me forget to mention that stingy Raider defense that hasn’t given up much of anything of late – especially the ubiquitous Big Play.
Wow, we are really starting to resemble a solid, complete football team again. I knew that looooong suffering would soon be over & we’d reap are due rewards. GOOOOO RAAAIIDERRRSSS! BEAT THE CHUMPS!!!!
November 4th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Washington Redskins are having the same offensive line problems we had.Even Mcnabb cant handle the constant rushes hes getting from defenders.So hats off to the raiders D and Oline for stepping it up.Now our QBs can actually play and show more of their skills.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Sweep the Leg,
There is no way to pick who’s better except to base on the results on the field. Right now Campbell has led the team to three wins out of four.
The fact that the coaches split reps yesterday shows they favor Gradkowski…especially in the face of the winning streak.
However, Gradkowski has been incomplete as well….
He’s a 52% passer, 4tds, 4ints, and is 0-2 in his two starts…he did rescue the Rams game in 2nd half.
I don’t think Gradkowski has lit it up…neither has Campbell for that matter…otherwise this wouldn’t be a discussion. The old saying…if you have 2 QBs you don’t have any…well we have two decent QBs but no elite long-term solution. One could develop into one I guess
We have two flawed QBs….in that scenario you play the hot hand until otherwise.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
I wouldnt mind takin a qb in the late rounds and letting him sit behind campbell and bruce…I mean it aint gonna hurt anything and that way we can pick up a guard/center in the low rounds maybe a possesion reciever in the middle rounds…. Hue Jackson is supposed to be good at grooming qb’s why not pick a late round 1 rite now and let him get groomed
November 4th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Darren McFadden and the Raiders aren’t playing the role of league laughingstock anymore. They’re AFC West contenders.——————————————-
go to yahoo and check it out.starting to get some national attention.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
RaiderFanFromJersey
i said earlier that I was in favor (favour sic American?) of the switch from Campbell to Grads. It’s a little complicated now. If we could merge Campbell and Gradkowski…
November 4th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Purple,
Yes, the Raiders need to get a young guy in here for Hue to work with. Just make sure the QB doesn’t come from a big time conference.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
If we could merge Campbell and Gradkowski…
Brason Campkowski….I can dig it.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
that guy can play!
November 4th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
I kinda like Colin Kaepernick from Nevada he has a big arm but has to work on his mechanics more but is fast and is threat running the ball… I think he’s the 1st person in the NCAA to throw for over 2000 yards and rush for 1000 yards 3 years in a row
November 4th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Ne1 out there
November 4th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Purple,
I will say that the propect should show the ability to read defenses and have played with a very average surrounding cast…meaning no elite receivers, running backs or lineman.
Get me a guy that grinded it out with an ordinary team…..no USC, Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina types…
I think I would focus on the Northeastern Schools or non-BCS and D-2……
Get someone that can sit and watch but is eager to learn.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
i want to see this game sold out, sadly i live in a far far away land, and wont make it.:(
November 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I think Kaepernick will be a good prospect is eager to learn but didnt play in a big program..Is smart and physically has the traits 6′6 230
November 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
big pep
me too. I live in a place that only appears every four years.
Thankfully we get internet.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
I am no where close to California….I did make one game…I think that the Oakland folks have to show for this one.
Will be at the Pittsburgh game though
November 4th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
They’re blowing oot the torches here, guys. G’night.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
I don’t kno how u guys can be talkin about who 2 draft next year when we’re smack in the muscle of a huge week in our most promising season since 02! I hope we pick late in every round cause we’re playing late into january/february. Back 2 thr present, winning this game, going 3-0 in the division is HUGE! I hope the Nation steps up & sells out & our boys go out there & show the world that
The Silver & Black Attack Is Back!!!!
November 4th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
i grew up in califas, but been gone for 20 years now. i hope one day to leave this area and go home. been to raider games before, and if i lived around there. 2 or 3 games a year would just have to be budgeted for me. mabe if i close my eyes and tap my heels and say theres no place like home, theres no place like home, ill appear at the game.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Wish I could make the game but gotta work to support the family…. SnB you should checkout Kaepernick
November 4th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Chaz was a 7th rd draft pick specifically because he was injury prone in college.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
True KK
November 4th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I doubt Chaz is around next season. It’s a shame, if he could ever stay healthy he would have been a tremendous talent.
Hopefully the Raiders make a run at a veteran WR. If Roy Williams gets cut, he’d be a solid pickup. Vincent Jackson would be awesome but more teams will be in the market for him, and he’ll probably be asking for more money than Williams.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
At some point in the recent past, Schilens surgery, originally described as minor and with a six week recovery time, developed into something more substantial.
Pressed about the time Schilens has missed, Cable said, “I think the procedure that was done was not something real minor or anything like that. It was fairly extensive, so it takes time.’’
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This is crazy. Give this dude his settlement and let him go away.
This is 2 or 3 years the Raiders have used a roster spot to carry an injured player all year.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
SnB Production Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Purple,
I will say that the propect should show the ability to read defenses and have played with a very average surrounding cast…meaning no elite receivers, running backs or lineman.
Get me a guy that grinded it out with an ordinary team…..no USC, Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina types…
I think I would focus on the Northeastern Schools or non-BCS and D-2……
Get someone that can sit and watch but is eager to learn.
^^^^^^^^
The lefty from Boise St seems like a good pro prospect.
He is in a gimmicky offense mainly….but they also run pro sets over there and play action and he has a strong accurate arm.
Don’t know if he can read pro defenses though, but that is what learning is all about in the NFL.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
I’m watching NFLN they had Elway Marino and Tom Brady QB rating on the board Elways was the LOWEST at 79.9 Marino’s was 86.4 and Brady’s 93.5. Thta’s whay I’ve been saying and I would love to see his completion % over a career I’ll bet it’s pedestrian.
I’m nt knocking him as a QB because I would love to him now QB rating rating and everything. Because bottom line is nhe won and won a lot of bigtime games but as a passer he was just above average. He won on grit and competitiveness
November 4th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 5:51 pmChaz was a 7th rd draft pick specifically because he was injury prone in college.
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Thats why as frustrating as it is that he’s not in there, he’s only getting 7th round $ so its a good financial decision. If he can ever go, we get a 1st rounders talent at bargain basement price. When his contract is up, if we can bring him back at a similar base w play time & statistical incentives, I say keep him.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Yeah the Schilens situation has definitely been frustrating. Guy just can’t get on the field.
But I just don’t remember him being an impact player when he was in there. He’s got great size though and I think that’s what the RAIDERS like the most so that’s why they’re being so patient with him.
So we wait……
November 4th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Raiderfanfromjersey,
The issue with Schilens injury is the other moves they would have made that they didn’t because they anticipated him being ready. Whether draft or free agency.
Injuries are part of the game for sure. But that is the life of an athlete. That’s why you need to get your education because sport is so fleeting.
If he can’t get it together this year, gotta make other plans
November 4th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Now QB’s like Joe Montana and Dan Marino Payton Manning were pure passers. Very accurate Steve Young one of the most underrated Passers. Tom Brady pure passer. Elway was a thrower.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Oh for f*ck’s sake, give it up on the Elway thing dude.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
it’s sad really..this is hue jacks last season with the raiders. someone is going to offer him a head coach job
November 4th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Yea can we get off Horse Teeth…..
November 4th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
R8rwill Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
it’s sad really..this is hue jacks last season with the raiders. someone is going to offer him a head coach job
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Al, can counteroffer. Throw Cable overboard. But what if Jackson prefers to be somewhere else?
November 4th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
big pep#36 I’m only 175 miles away. You make me feel guilty. where are you?
November 4th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I think Jackson will have 1 more year here unless Davis pushes him away which is very possible….
November 4th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I hear u snb. I was all for going after 1 of the vet receivers this yr 2 no avail. I think its clear, even to Mr Davis that he’s frail but maybe worth the low risk high (potential) reward contract.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
I didn’t bring it up But I have no problem forgetting it I’m more tired of it than yu guy’s are but people keep attacking me with it.
Now as far as Chaz is concerned I think he is very talented he can flat out play but when you cannot stay healthy people forget out of sight out of mind. But if he gets back on the field vs the Steelers I think you’ll see why they wait on him like this. But I can gauran-damn-te ya’ it wont happen again. Coaches hate players they cannot count on.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
I think Jackson will be around for at least one more season. A lot can happen in another eight games. And Hue’s offense isn’t going to put up 500 yards a game for the rest of the season, that’s for sure.
There’s a lot of optimism in here and that’s great. I’m optimistic too. But I’m not going to be terribly disappointed if this team doesn’t make it to the playoffs this season. So far this young squad has shown more than any other Raiders team in the past seven years. They still have a little way to go, but one more solid draft and they could easily be a playoff-caliber team.
I guess what I’m saying is that even if they lose tomorrow it’s not the end of the world, even if it does end up being too much of a deficit for the Raiders to come back from this season.
Of course, if it’s a loss like the opener against the Titans, or like the Jets and Giants games last season, then they might need to make a little more progress than we all think. But let’s see how they respond to the challenge this weekend.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
This is the first time they’ve been in the season past Halloween since 2002.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
This aint necessarily Hujacks last season yeah other team will inquire but we cannot let a coach like this go he hasn’t even gotten where he’s going yet. He has Mike Martz type ability. But he’s yet to prove it he needs to win a SB 1st. That will be here. What a signing huh? If Al davis had done what you all say he should do Hujack wouldn’t be here…….period
November 4th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Not tomorrow, Sunday… damn… being out of work f*cks with your sense of time…
November 4th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
This aint necessarily Hujacks last season yeah other team will inquire but we cannot let a coach like this go He has Mike Martz type ability.
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Lol.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
These fools have Walter Payton at #5 how in hell can you have Walter payton at #5? there is no freakin’ way Joe Montana is a better player than Walter Freeakin’ Payton that’s crap.
It should be Jim Brwon #1 Walter Payton #2 and then Jerry Rice #3 and they can do what they want with the rest…………..period
November 4th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
KK just disagree and say why, I said he needs to prove it by winning a SB. Tell me where I’m wrong if you’re so smart.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Hue Jackson had good credentials coming into Oakland. If he has this offense in the top 5 by the end of the year…and rolling like it has been…he will be a top candidate.
The only way the Raiders could keep him in that scenario is to promote him to head coach. I don’t think that would be a good idea given that if the Raiders are that good, Cable deserves the credit as well
November 4th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Come on KK………state your case or scurry back under that rock.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Your declaration that Hue Jackson has Mike Martz type of ability, whatever that means, just sounds foolish, presumptive, and self aggrandizing.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Aggrandizing….
LOL!!
November 4th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Hue Jackson is a former receiver, running backa and quarterbacks coach. He’s influenced the o-line scheme as well. He also has a no-nonsense quality to him.
If, and that’s if, the Raiders offense becomes top tier in scoring etc….I would imagine a guy like Jerry Jones giving a call…..
November 4th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Oh I forgot about LT I stand corrected I agree now LT was a very different animal since before he came and still we haven’t seen anyone close to him.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
They cannot call SnB he’s under contract he has to get permisssion from Mr Davis and what do yu think he’s going to say? HELLZ NO!!!
November 4th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
“….and defensive end Lamarr Smith.”
Hahahahahaha Jerry.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
KK that’s because you have no idea what the guy is doing hell you think we’re still running the 1960 offense….lol
Come on KK you don’t know what he hell you’re looking at do you? be honest…lol
November 4th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
They cannot call SnB he’s under contract he has to get permisssion from Mr Davis and what do yu think he’s going to say? HELLZ NO!!!
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They only need Al Davis’ permission on a lateral move, Mr KnowitAll.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Priest loves him the words “hell” and “period”. Especially after the bottle of Thunderbird is empty…
November 4th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Jerry Rice is #1 over Jim Brown that is crazy I don’t agree with that. Jerry just played a lot longer but he was NOT a better football player than Jim Brown or Walter Payton.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
I haven’t even heard anyone mention Hue’s name as a head coaching candidate. If Leslie Frasier and Gregg Williams are still coordinators after a few years with the same team, I think Hue’s safe for now.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Isn’t Jason Garrett – Asst. Coach OC for Dallas the next heir apparent? I seem to recall that Jerry Jones already had to pay him HC money to incent him to stay with Dallas as OC. I believe there were also promises made to Garrett by Jones that he was to be the next Dallas HC.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
You’re right I had forgotten that they can make him HC but who’s going to make him HC at this juncture he needs to win a SB this year if he does that I can’t blame them. But I doubt that being the eventuality eventhough I’d LOVE IT. There are other OC’s we can get If winning a SB causes us to lose him.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
I think he’s safe as well, I csnnot see someone making him a HC due to what he’s done here so far.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
priesttj Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
…….It’s not that he lacks the tools he just lacks the will to use them regularly.
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This is what I’ve been saying about JC this entire season. The guy throws a beautiful spiral. He’ll dazzle you with his potential but he can’t pull the trigger. If he could, the Skins would have never let him go. JC and Alex Smith are exactly the same. You look at Alex Smith’s final 2 drives against the Eagles and he was brilliant. But Collinsworth stated as such, they dont take the risk. When you are too careful with the ball it works against you. You need a little bit of that gun slinger attitude to be a good nfl qb.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
priesttj Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Jerry Rice is #1 over Jim Brown that is crazy
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And Joe Rudi is #1 over Rickey
November 4th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
AIG I agree he has to throw some caution too the wind and damn the torpedoes if he wants to be great. He has the tools.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
This is what I’ve been saying about JC this entire season. The guy throws a beautiful spiral. He’ll dazzle you with his potential but he can’t pull the trigger. If he could, the Skins would have never let him go. JC and Alex Smith are exactly the same. You look at Alex Smith’s final 2 drives against the Eagles and he was brilliant. But Collinsworth stated as such, they dont take the risk. When you are too careful with the ball it works against you. You need a little bit of that gun slinger attitude to be a good nfl qb.
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It’s why I don’t mind seeing JC force the ball downfield to DHB every now and then. If he doesn’t take those shots, what defense is going to believe that they have to defend against those passes?
In the past couple weeks, JC has let the ball loose more, and it has kept the defenses honest. He needs to do that against KC. Flowers, Carr, and Berry are very good defensive backs, so this game is going to be more of a challenge for the Raiders offense. I look forward to seeing how they react to it.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Priest,
None of us ever doubted JC’s potential. The biggest problem is pulling the trigger. That is why JC has dumped off so much in his career. He plays to not make a mistake and it kills the offense. I dont ever remember many teams succeeding offensively when they dont involve the WR’s. That is why last Sunday I complimented JC for getting to our WR’s.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Priest, you and I finally agreed on something. I’ll take a break for while now.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
I have to agree he teases you quite a bit but I’m hopeful that Hujack is taking him to another level they are forcing him to rise above it by threatening him back to the bench. They knw he’s a better player potentially than Grads but they want to see it on Sunday’s so far he’s making baby steps. So there is hope.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
BG = quicker reads
November 4th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
I had Campbell pegged early on.
He is a good manager of the game when he has good blocking and a running game.
He will make a few great throws, but he also will make some terrible decisions.
I think he can do a good job if he has help, but I just don’t think he has the “it” factor.
I think Bruce has more of the “it”.
If I were to pass out some rankings on the “it” factor it would be:
Joe Montana 10
Tom Brady/ Kenny Stabler 9
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Bruce Gradkowski 6.5
Jason Campbell 3.5
Jamarcus Russell 0.0
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This is the goofiest post of the day by far. When are guys like you gonna figure out that the “it” factor is a media-created myth? Do you believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy too?? Tell me what “it” is. As far as I’m concerned, “it” is leading us to back-to-back wins. “It is leading us to blowout victories. JR and JC have both done that for the Raiders. What the hell has Bruise ever done for us????
November 4th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
big pep Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Mistic1.
i for one could care less about drafting a q.b. i think j.c. and bruce can keep the seat warm for the next couple of years if we continue to improve, in the mean time we draft lineman on both sides. i aslo remember who your list of q.bs were, and i for one could care less about a run first q.b. that said if he was demanding money coming from a junior college, just shows he was to stupid to get in that school from the get go. and the whole nation knows we dont need another stupid q.b.
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Some people have no clue.
Just because a qb can run doesnt make him a run first qb. That is media hype hat they use to down play the throwing ability and inteligence of more athletic qb’s. This dismissal allows foom to pump up the the guys that are not mobile, all things being equal the guys that are not mobile will soon be out dated.
For the record the guys on my list are not run first qb’s. The system they are in may call for them to run often but dont underestimate their game. this was the knock on josh freeman, tryo smith,and david gerrard. they are extremely mobile, but by no means are they run first qb’s.
besides you have no idea if that story is true, newton may be alot of things i have never heard anyone call him stupid besides you.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Anyone that says bruce is a better qb, doesnt judge qb talent very well, or they have some other agenda.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Campbell is nothing like smith. Smith doesnt have the big time arm, cant read defense , must play from the shot gun, lacks touch and accuraccy, and is turn over prone. he is also fragile.
This description doesnt fit campbell at all.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Bruce Gradkowski doesn’t have IT nor does he have any start power whatsoever. He is a scappy fiery guy that gets everything out of his ability. He’s lucky to be a starter he is only a starter because we dn’t have one that is legit yet.
Bruce gradkowski is the anti Russell that’s why people like him. If it weren’t for that he would be a career backup 3rd stringer. It’s like people want to see something in this guy that is not there. Campbell needs to grow and if he does Gradkowski would never see the light of day………………period.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Cam Newton is a good qb…Off the field decsions arent the best….What do you think about Kaepernick????
November 4th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Good game going on ESPN
November 4th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Campbell needs to grow and if he does Gradkowski would never see the light of day………………period.
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Told ya! period.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
I agree with Jerry in that I think the Raiders need both JC and Grads. They push each other. We know that both of them are capable of getting it done. We know that neither of them react negatively to being benched – in fact, they seem to come back stronger.
In truth, I don’t think it matters which of these guys is in. But the Raiders are smart to let Grads rest for now and get back to full strength while they ride JC’s hot hand.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Fan living outside area, SoCal. Try to make it to one game a year. Already went to AZ game (friend AZ fan) and (damn Jano). More time and expense goes into it for me, travel, time off work, etc.. But I understand fans hesitance to go to game after product on field (especially after AZ game). But I think team has turned a corner. If I lived in area I would definately head to game.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
# WTF Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Fan living outside area, SoCal. Try to make it to one game a year. Already went to AZ game (friend AZ fan) and (damn Jano). More time and expense goes into it for me, travel, time off work, etc.. But I understand fans hesitance to go to game after product on field (especially after AZ game). But I think team has turned a corner. If I lived in area I would definately head to game.
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I’ve been a fan for 25 years. Only seen the Raiders 3 times in Houston. If I lived in Oakland I would have season tickets.
Crap man, its 2 for 1. Can’t get that deal anywhere.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
There were some demeaning comments on this board a few weeks ago that compared JR and JC. In watching JC the last couple of weeks, I definitely see them. JC never gets amped up. He’s the “strong silent type” that Langston Walker said guys want their QB to be like. Even with these huge blowouts, you can’t tell if Campbell had a good game or bad game. He’s a lot like JR that way. These guys have an inner confidence that allows them not to have to play up to the fans. They don’t seek glory. In JR’s case, he was never nervous and it showed in the comeback victories he engineered. I would like Bruise if he didn’t seem so manufactured. He tries to play to the crowd by taking on DBs, but then he can’t play for a month because of a BRUISE! The guy can’t tie his shoes without getting injured and I’m supposed to believe he’s a tough guy?? He has a lot to prove in my book.
November 4th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Mystic1 Cam Newton neeeds to stay in school, he has to get a better grasp of what defenses will do to try to stop the passeing game. If he gets drafted he will struggle badly in this league. He needs to be able to adjust to seeing defenses it will take him maybe 3 years behind a very good QB and studying to be ready to play in this league.
I know he can run like a beast he’s better than most TE’s breaking tackles and running over defenders but that is not what I want from my QB I want someone who leads the offense and gets everyone involved. Cam is nt ready to do that IMO. I wouldn’t draft him in the 1st rnd if he came out now.
November 4th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
John Elways career comp % is 56.9%
November 4th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Thanks Oakland_Raiders that’s exactly what I was trying to tell these guys yesterday that % would be laughed at right now they attacked Russell for having a % similar to that. He was a thrower not a passer.
November 4th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Priesttj says:
Bruce gradkowski is the anti Russell that’s why people like him.
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I think that is a large part of it.
Facts are that no QB has put themselves out there as the undisputed starter.
Therefore, the prudent thing is to go with the guy winning games. I don’t think Gradkowski’s 0-2 record, 52% completion, 4tds, 4ints justify getting the job back automatically due to injury.
If JC reprises his Tennessee, St. Louis or San Fran performances, then put Gradkowski in.
But if the offense keeps moving, not turning over the ball etc..well
You go with PRODUCTION!
November 4th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
SNB couldn’t agree more there is NOTHING that Gradkowski has done as a Raider that makes me drool. There nothing he has done that makes me want to see him again the only thing is Campbell has to improve with every game he plays until he gets better to the point to where this passing game is in the upper echelon of the league. Then we will have a starting QB.
November 4th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
95.mistic1 Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Anyone that says bruce is a better qb, doesnt judge qb talent very well, or they have some other agenda.
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Take it up with your boy Hue Jack. He’s the one that benched him.
November 4th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
AIG Grads is somene they feel runs the offense smoother and gets everyone involved but he takes way too many chances with the ball that just are not smart. Playing agggressive is one thing playing stupid is another Grads plays ugly to me. He plays on the edge and he just doesn’t have the tools it takes to do that. He needs to play within himself and Campbell needs to cme out of his shell. What a delimma they’re polar opposites neither incites confidence in me.
I’m not sure how much better Grads can get but I do think campbell can get much better I HOPE.
November 4th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Priest,
IMO, Grad has played ok so far this season. JC has played awful, ok, and good this season. SNB is right that nobody exploded so far. However, I am in favor of starting JC this weekend to avoid any conflict in the locker room. JC should start until he can’t get it done.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Fair enough AIG that doesn’t excite me we need a player who plays well a high % of the time you give me that and I’ll biuld a monument to him.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
The QB environment is just about right. Both QBs have been on the brink…Bruce during preseason when there were whispers of getting cut…and JC by getting benched.
Both QBs know they have to stand out and NOTHING at this point is guraranteed.
They both should realize that the only thing that is going to keep them on the field is wins and losses.
Should keep both of them on their toes.
Both of them have a lot of work to do.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Campbell has 3 of the 4 wins.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
But right now its all about winning!
What a huge game next week!
And against the Chiefs.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Amen.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
115.KoolKell Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Campbell has 3 of the 4 wins.
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Which is keeping him on the field. I think if the team was 2-2 at this point, Gradkowski would be in this week.
Sure Gradkowski is hurt, but he is probably ready to play now….
November 4th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Great point KK great point…..
November 4th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I think they should keep it under wraps who’s gonna start. It might make it harder for the other team to prepare. I think it’s pretty obvious who should start at this point considering how well we’ve been doing. I was all Bruce, and I think the team was too, until he went down. A lot can happen when a QB goes down. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. This time good things are happening at the moment. I see 2 different playbooks for each QB. Bruce likes to throw to the WR’s & TE, while Campbell finds the guys in the backfield as well as an occasional pass to the wideouts and TE. Maybe they are the same plays, but different results, and both effective. I think this team is solid and could play under either guy. Maybe both could be used as a weapon alternately in different circumstances in the future. With the same plays and different plays.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
You mean like Cutler out of Vandy? No thanks…
There is no magic formula. That said, you can try to improve your draft odds for success by going for intelligence (which is quanitfiable), hard worker (game film junkie), and someone with the ‘it’ factor (winner/leader- more in tangible but you can still see ‘it’). I’d take these attributes 1000x time over big arm and size.
As you probably can tell, this is pretty much defining Gannon..or Gannon-lite (Gradkowski)
Problem here is our owner is a freak about drafting freaks. Once day that will change….
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# SnB Production Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Purple,
I will say that the propect should show the ability to read defenses and have played with a very average surrounding cast…meaning no elite receivers, running backs or lineman.
Get me a guy that grinded it out with an ordinary team…..no USC, Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina types…
I think I would focus on the Northeastern Schools or non-BCS and D-2……
Get someone that can sit and watch but is eager to learn.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Campbell won those games? Really?
Sorry he is game managing, nothing more. Our O line, Mcfadden, and our dominating front 7 on D are responsible for us being 4-4.
Campbell isnt screwing the pooch. I’ll give you that.
Make no mistake WHEN (not if) we get back to close games where we NEED a QB to make plays, you will be begging for Bruce back there.
You honestly want Campbell in there on 11/21 at Pittsburgh?
Please…
===# KoolKell Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Campbell has 3 of the 4 wins.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
aig, i am happily surprised to hear you say you want jc to start, and surprised to hear you say you never doubted jc’s ability.. you, jfb add a few others on here were all over grads nuts, how much better he is than jc, and how he did such and such better than jc.. in fact one of you made the statement that grads is the best player on our team, started calling himself the “greatgradkowskiraider”.i am not throwing stones and not trying to stir up muck, i would just like to know what changed your opinion??
November 4th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
If what we saw the past two weeks is the ‘real’ Raiders, then they will not only beat the Chiefs but should go 10-6 at least.
Now, I can totally see them losing on Sunday, cuz I don’t know what this team is yet and Nnamdi is out and Zach Miller is out most likely.
The MAIN reason I feel weird about this game is the uncertainty of JCampbell. I don’t trust him in a big game like this. I can see him being very nervous and tentative with the heat on.
I have no idea what to expect from this game.
November 4th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
I will say I CAN see Raiders winning BIG but I don’t see KC winning big. I still don’t know WHO will win though.
November 4th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Raiders better win Sunday. Otherwise it will be a long time before they sell out a game again. And even longer two weeks for all of us.
November 4th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Campbell’s has a passer rating of 82
Gradkowski 71
November 4th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Well, the Run D will be tested by the number 1 rushing team. We’ll see if they’re for real. I think they are really improving. Love seeing the animation out of Kelly. Houston is stout.
Raiders have the better passing game.
November 4th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
The key is stopping that awesomw run game they lineup in that unbalanced line and force you out of your normal defense and overwhelm you at the point of attack. If we can stand up to that elephant lineup we will beat them.
Years ago when Art Shell coached in the 90’s we ran a similar system and dominated with Marcus and Bo. I hadn’t seen that system since on a regular basis but they do it now.
November 4th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
If we lose the season isn’t over. The best everybody hoped for at the beginning of the season was 9-7 or 8-8 and it seemed that was the big debate on here; would we get there? Going 4-5 still gives us a chance at that with more guys getting healthy after the bye.
I’m trying to tone down my expectations for this game to shield myself from a major letdown and remember the big picture and what the “realistic” expectations for this team really should be.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
This sh1t is Fn funny!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niIQU8_y_7s&NR=1
Man, that dude and his punk azz ghetto friend are some class A F’n morons. LOL! Got what he deserved!
November 4th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Priestt,
newton & griffin are both underclassman, & both should stay in school. I wasnt saying i want us to draft them. I made the point that i think they are the best qb’s in college & will be the best prospects in 2012. I think we draft for the o- line, this qb class is really weak imo.
Besides i like jc a lot. In year two and 3 this cat will be awsome
November 4th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
google raiders/news/last24hrs SOP. most posts from arrowhead and KC sites.They’re getting nervous.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Just bought 4 tickets to the game! Rumors are it’s sold out! See you all there!
November 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
November 4th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
If we lose the season isn’t over.
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I’d hate to lose this one Johnny. There’s such a big difference between a win and a loss this week. Your talking the difference between being 1/2 game back and 3-0 in your division or being 3 1/2 games back. That’s a HUGE difference, homie.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
If we get more than 8 wins i will be sirprised. I think our o- line is a big problem still. If we make it to the playoffs it will be due to our weak division. We simply are not good enogh to compete with the top teams in the afc. I think we may be getting ahead of our selves. Having said that the queefs are very suspect, and this is a winnable game. I think the queefs and my beloved raiders are now no longer jokes but just becoming middle of the road.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Mistic – you don’t think your boy JC can lead us to a winning record?
November 4th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
I agree your #132 postMystic1 If Camm takes his time and gets to understand the passing game the sky is the limit.
As for Campbell if he will take on Hujacks personality some and buy into his vision of what he wants this offense to look like he wil become one of the better QB’s in the game. He has to see what Hue sees he has stick by him and ask him what he’s not doing that HUe wuld like him to do. THen sharpen his skillset to include those traits. No matter what happens here he will be a great QB because coaches see the game different than players they see the game as it’s designed players see tha game as it’s played.
Now the great players can see it both ways, they can take the design and transfer it to the field and improvise to accent the design. Campbell is still struggling with the design and the way it’s played it causes him to think just one split second too long. It has to become natural with him. and he’s just not there yet.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
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I’d hate to lose this one Johnny. There’s such a big difference between a win and a loss this week. Your talking the difference between being 1/2 game back and 3-0 in your division or being 3 1/2 games back. That’s a HUGE difference, homie.
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You’re right it IS huge if we are truly gonna be a factor this year. All I expected, or I should say hoped for this year was 8-8, but after seeing them the last two games you can’t help but think there MAY be something there for this year.
This is the game of the year for sure. I hope like heck they can pull it off but that KC run game and the way this D has played against the type of runner Charles is, has me concerned. In addition to the fact I’m not used to seeing the Raiders good like this.
You are right though, definitely the game of the year if you think Raiders have a shot to be special this year.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
That’s right DJ this would be a landmark win it would give the kind of confdence it takes to beat the better teams no matter wh they are. Three wins in a row puts you in the mode that makes it very hard to beat. Seymour will have this defense so ready to compete you wont believe it. If the Chiefs beat us they will know they were in a contest they wont soon forget if this crowd comes and gives our boys the energy they need when their tired. They will put a whuppin on these boys trust me. This is a game of wills NOT schemes of WILLS the team that has the strongest will to win will WIN……….period
November 4th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Try some reality,
the qb is the most dependant position in football. I think jc will be great in time, but it is a process. I think he will be up and down as it takes at least 2-3 years for a qb to master a system. I dont think jc can overcome the weakness of our o line. I say our o- line is not very good, & when we play teams like pitt & miami it will be exposed.
My original prediction was 6 wins, i bumped it up based on our run game, defense & the play of jc.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I hope you’re right Priest. I think if the Raiders, the REAL Raiders, are the same team we saw last couple of weeks it would be hard for ANY team to beat ‘em.
I’m more comfortable if everyone expects ‘em to lose quite frankly.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Mistic, Priest, all of you Davis goons…
If Al Davis was such a judge of talent, why can’t he draft a franchise QB? Why hasn’t this man drafted a successful QB since the Snake, nearly a half a flippin century ago? HUH? Yeh.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
MR man no one cares what you think about Mr Davis please dude disappear we’re talking about the game forget the owner.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
I’m talking about the owner forget the game.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
then talk to yourself……..
November 4th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Tell me why Al can’t draft a QB if he has such a sharp eye for talent? And, this does have to do with the game. If we blow it Sunday, you don’t think QB play will have something to do with it? And who are our QB’s? Bunch of free agent scrubs, each with a little potential in some categories, but not enough. So, I’m on topic. Chump.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Rmr,
you crack me up bra, this out of nowhere. Lol, i feel like im being ambushed. Ok lets get it then.
Drafting a qb is a crapshoot. Not only davis has struggled with that . In our own division the donkeys havnt had a so called franchise qb since smellway, the queefs havnt come close since len dawson.
Its a roll of the dice
November 4th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
I didn’t ask rather or not drafting a QB is a crap shoot. I asked why Al Davis can’t draft a QB if he’s such a good talent scout. I think you need a nice hot cup of getting on topic.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:00 am
And, did you just mention the Broncos as an example of teams that’ can’t draft QB’s? wow. Think really hard about that. Two nights in a row, fellas.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Mystic1 man don’t fall for his crap he comes here to do just what he did get us into an arguement because everrything was too positive. Dude is a rabble rouser that’s the only reason he comes here.
let him stew in his own juices.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:02 am
Rmr, how long was the gap between rivers and fouts? How about the steelers, bradshaw to rothliberger. Staubach to aikman. The niners since joe cool have flailed, young was drafted by the bucs. Bart starr to favre. Unitas to manning. The jets havnt since namath. Should i continue
November 5th, 2010 at 12:03 am
6 out of last 9 years homegrown QB’s win Super Bowl. Game.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Still waiting for an answer, Mistic. Why can’t you just answer the question? Again, if Al Davis is such a talent scout, why hasn’t he drafted a successful QB since Stabler? There’s no reason to bring up another team. There’s an answer to that question that does not involve any other franchises.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Actually he adds comic relief. I said the donkeys havnt drafted a good qb since elway. So called franchise qb doesnt come along very often
November 5th, 2010 at 12:06 am
All of those teams don’t have owners with loyal followers who claim they are geniuses at spotting talent. Raider fans do. That’s the difference. Jets fans don’t run around talking about how much of a genius their owner is. Some Raider fans do, however, talk about how smart Davis is. So, if he is smart, why can’t he draft a QB?
November 5th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Great qbs are rare.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Mistic, just admit Davis really isn’t that smart. Just admit he’s more of a deterrent to winning than an architect of it, and the Raiders mostly win in spite of him anymore. Just admit that if Al Davis really knew what he was doing, he could draft a QB.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:09 am
# mistic1 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Great qbs are rare.
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Not for genius owners.
Niners get rid of Montana, replace him with Young. And surely you think Davis is smarter than Walsh, Carmen Policy, et al.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:10 am
RMR I told you yesterday…You don’t need a so-called “franchise QB to have success in this league.
Doug Williams was a journeyman who led the Redskins to a championship.
Stop with this franchise QB stuff already.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:13 am
ArmChair, that doesn’t answer my question. Again, if Al Davis truly is a scout for talent, why can’t he draft a QB? You’re sitting here telling me that a franchise QB isn’t necessary. If Al believed that, explain his number one draft pick in 2007? Go.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Those other teams dont have an Al Davis, he is unique. What other owner in the nfl has been here since the afl ( won an afl title). Forced the merger, creating the super bowl, been running the show for 50 years with 5 super bowl appearances, & 3 victories?
No other fan bases have a team owner the comes close to eaquling the legend Al Davis, how could they talk like we do.
That is one ofthe special things about being a real raider fan.
I hope you have been educated by this post, so you may evate beyond your impostor status
November 5th, 2010 at 12:17 am
Rmr young was not drafted by the niners, he was drafted by the bucs. Where he washed out, then he played inthe usfl, before coming to sf. You must be really young, try wikipideia
November 5th, 2010 at 12:22 am
No 2 was a bust for us, there is no doubt abkut that. Every team in the league has drafted plenty of bust at every position and especially at qb. I think if you want to attack Davis you will need a different angle, this is a one way beating
November 5th, 2010 at 12:24 am
# mistic1 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 12:17 am
Rmr young was not drafted by the niners, he was drafted by the bucs. Where he washed out, then he played inthe usfl, before coming to sf. You must be really young, try wikipideia
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RMR We have 3 Lombardi trophies and have appeared in five.
You tell me who the FRANCHISE QB was in all of those SB appearances… Plunkett? Gannon??
The more you keep talking about it, the more you keep proving the opposite point. There’s 32 teams in the league. There are only about 5 elite QB’s in this league.
The rest are rookies, journeymen or inexperienced QB’s. That’s the greatness of football. The David and Goliath story that unfolds every single week.
Stop with this franchise QB stuff. It doesn’t add up to the facts.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Rmr read # 148 & 152 again, every team struggles to find a great qb in the draft. Some teams have never found one
November 5th, 2010 at 12:29 am
Hahahaha , kicking rmr’s butt made my typing fingers tired. Talk to you cats 2 morow
November 5th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Also depends on style of play. If the Jets win the SB this year, it wont be because Sanchez is a “franchise qb.” We are alot closer the jets than the cols or pats in terms of style of play.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:33 am
BTW, im pretty sure Drew Brees is the Saints franchise QB and he was drafted by the Chargers. Not saying JC is Brees, but you dont have to be drafted by a team to fulfill that role.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Ha ha. I didn’t think you guys could answer my question. But loved the compare and contrast with other NFL teams. That wasn’t the topic. And of course I noticed you guys stop the compare and contrasting when it comes to the past 7 years. But I don’t blame you. Arguments are there to be won. I respect your guys’ effort. You make good sparring partners.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Jamarcus had talent, he didnt have the work ethic. Drafting him wasnt an issue of recognizing talent, it was an issue of not understanding people.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:39 am
Rmr,
one more thing, arm chair is right there are teams that have won with out a so called franchise qb, try trent dilfer. On top of that, just because you have a great qb that doesnt mean you will win the super bowl. Ask tarkenton, marino, kelly , & moon for starters.
RMR, you made this too easy, im disappointed.
Im going to sleep try again friday bra
November 5th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Oh, so Russell is the argument you bring up to the contrary? He’s your successful QB drafted by Al Davis in recent years? OK, got ya. Like I said, you guys are good sparring partners. Fun to beat on. Because you fight back just enough. Ferocious little guys.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:44 am
No, just pointing out that Jamarcus was/is legitamtely talented, and that is what the debate was originally about. JR sucks, but not because he lacked talent. You know what i am saying, you are just trying to spin it another way. He drafts plenty of physically talented players that are not mentally cut out for the league.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:46 am
Told you guy’s he just wants to argue it’s pointless he aint going to come to reasonable conclusion he just wants to argue…………period
You answered his question over and over and he just keeps asking it. He’s an idiot………….period
November 5th, 2010 at 12:46 am
LOL. I love it. JaMarcus Russell. OK. This thread is saved.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:47 am
He hasn’t drafted a good qb in a while. Neither have alot of GMs, and they find ways to win 8 games or even their division. As a Raider fan right now, thats really all I can ask for. It might even be possible for this team to win IN SPITE of Al Davis. I have a question for you. How can you call yourself a fan?
November 5th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Nobody answered my question, you guys just raised other questions about other teams. If Al Davis is a genius when it comes to talent, I just find it funny he can’t draft a QB, that’s all. But evidently, he did draft a successful QB according to 100percentRaider. JaMarcus Russell. I totally forgot.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:51 am
100 percent Raider, you’re right. Al Davis hasn’t drafted a good QB in a while. 40 years.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:51 am
I definately answered your question. Al’s problem is that he drafts purely on talent and nothing else. You are an idiot if you read my post and came to the conclusion that JR is good. I said he was physically talented, and you would be even more stupid to ignore that. Now stop being a hypocrite and answer my question to you.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:54 am
They answered your question they didn’t give you the answer you wanted therefore it’s not an answer.
YOu’re full of crap like I told them.
November 5th, 2010 at 12:57 am
I said name a successful QB Al’s drafted since Stabler. You said Russell. If you don’t like people laughing at your jokes you should give up comedy.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:00 am
[...] “He’s got to be able to do everything we need him to do and he’s improving, getting better, all that, but still, to say he’d be 100 percent, it wouldn’t be fair,” Cable explained of his decision, per the Oakland Tribune. [...]
November 5th, 2010 at 1:03 am
How was my question answered, Priest? It was a simple question. If Al Davis is such a genius, why hasn’t he drafted a successful QB since Stabler? The only answers I got were a bunch of “San Diego did this”, and “Denver did that”, and “Look at this team now”, and “look at that team now”. Not answers to my question. I didn’t ask one single question about any other team in the league. Yet every one of your guys’ answers were about other teams. It’s as if you guys are more obsessed with other teams than you are the Raiders. My concern is with my team, the Raiders. And my question involves Al Davis. It’s not about San Diego or Denver’s GMs, and what they do. It’s about Al Davis, his perception amongst loyal fans, and the absence of any success to back up this perception. Has nothing to do with any other team.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:21 am
RMR let me make this simple for you ok…
Al has not DRAFTED a “franchise” QB.
But so what. He doesn’t need to. You don’t need to draft a franchise QB to win a SB. So your argument is worthless.
Is the goal to draft a franchise QB or win a Lombardi trophy?
Al has ACQUIRED Stabler, Plunkett, and Gannon. All of the BECAME franchise QB’s and got the job done!
Now your question has been answered and exposed to be completely irrelevant to the ultimate goal of winning a Superbowl.
Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski are perfectly capable of one day leading a team to the Superbowl just like Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have been able to in the past.
That’s what football is all about. THAT’S WHY YOU PLAY THE GAME!
I hope that wasn’t too complicated for you. But unfortunately I’m sure your future responses will prove that it is…
November 5th, 2010 at 1:22 am
Why do you ask questions that we all know the answer to? You only want to bring attention to the fact that Al Davis is a crappy owner. We all understand that.The Raiders play a unique, not always quality brand of football. Other teams are all run the same way and its boring as heck ,ad not nearly as exciting when it works. And the Raiders have the traditional, bada@@, black jerseys. Other teams are trying it no but you can only laugh because no1 wears it liek the Raiders. Now please tell me how you call yourself a fan when you predict a blowout loss by the opponent every week, then when the Raiders win you say they got lucky or that Al Davis will mess it up? You have no faith, seem to find no happiness in their victories, and focus on the owner instead of the players on the field.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:22 am
MR you are ignorant….period
November 5th, 2010 at 1:22 am
That’s where the saying ANY GIVEN SUNDAY came from.
Hopefully one day you will realize that.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:26 am
100percent all he wants you to do is bash the owner man he doesn’t want or care about an answer he wants you to agree with him about the owner…………period
November 5th, 2010 at 1:28 am
Yes I know. I just want to figure out why he is here if thats all he wants to do
November 5th, 2010 at 1:29 am
ArmChair GM Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 1:21 am
RMR let me make this simple for you ok…
Al has not DRAFTED a “franchise” QB.
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Stabler wasn’t a franchise QB?
Next.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:31 am
Look, this is a blog, you guys. So save the guilt trip. I’m a Raider fan and I don’t like Al Davis. I wear that on my sleeve. And, yes, I like to pick arguments with Al’s loyalists regarding this notion that Al Davis is some kind of genius. I think we can have a civil argument over it. What’s wrong with it? You guys think Al’s a genius, a true scout of talent. I’m asking, simply, if he is, don’t you think he would have drafted one, I mean one successful QB since Stabler?
November 5th, 2010 at 1:33 am
See what I mean if Stabler wasn’t a franchise QB there is no such thing…………..MR just wants to fight that’s all.
Any moron knows Stabler was a Franchise QB and he does to. But he wants you to engage im his madness.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:34 am
Go suck eggs MR figure it out for yourself.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:39 am
He’s here to cause discord that’s it. He doesn’t want to see us happy.
November 5th, 2010 at 1:49 am
Maybe like George Allen he prefers vets.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:03 am
Al Davis drafted the right guy in Jamarcus. If we hadn’t drafted him, he would gone no later than #3 to Cleveland. The problem is what happened after we drafted him. There’s no excuse for not getting him signed on time. The guy was picked #1 overall. Break the fkn bank and get his ass in here. We had a good young coach who had hired a good offensive staff to make sure JR developed. And it was working. He played pretty well in his 1st start against The chargers in week 17. We had a good backup/mentor in Culpepper, and a good #1 in Jerry Porter. Both were gone in 2008 and instead he had an injured Javon Walker and Ashlie “off the street” Lelie as starting wrs. And we got Kwame Harris to protect his blindside. Then we fire Kiffin. Then after finishing the last 6 games at 3-3 where JR posted a qb rating over 90, Al let’s Knapp and Defillipo walk while Cable sweats out whether he’s gonna get the job or not. He scrambles to replace them with Buddy Whackit and Tollner and all of a sudden, we can’t run the football anymore. We decide to start to rooke wrs and predictably, the passing game struggles as well. The fans start burning JR’s jersey in the parking lot and threaten to not renew season tickets. The media roasts him and finally, Al relents and scapegoats JR out of town after just THREE years. The guy never had a chance here. And what really pisses me off is that a lot of talking heads said JR was drafted to the wrong team. They said that the organization was too dysfunctional to properly develop him. I fought that idea like crazy, but Al proved them right.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:04 am
Priest, what’s wrong with an argument as long as it remains civil? People argue on blogs. All day long. Including you. Yet for some reason you declare that Al Davis is off limits. You want to argue over 3rd string special team players, I want to argue about Al Davis. I want a debate with Al Davis’s loyal supporters regarding this notion that Al’s a genius. You make that sound like an immoral thing and it’s not. It’s only wrong when the debate becomes hostile, and personal insults, threats, etc. become part of the discussion. It doesn’t have to be that way. Just make your best argument as to how Al Davis could be a genius at spotting talent even though he’s only drafted one successful QB in his entire career as an NFL owner or GM or coach, and that was 40 years ago!!!
November 5th, 2010 at 2:06 am
priesttj Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 1:39 am
He’s here to cause discord that’s it.
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Then you’re here to cause discord when you argue about players. Either that, or were both here merely discussing football, we just have different priorities as to where this team needs work.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:07 am
Mr Davis wants whatever it takes to win he’s not particularly particular. If you can win for him you’re in. Like anyone else he’d love to draft his own QB and the guy pan out but like many have already stated it’s very hard to do it’s more the luck of the draw. Russell was one of most highly touted QB’s to ever enter the draft and look what happened it’s too unpredictable.
It’s not a matter of him not knowing how no one knows how you have to be lucky. The right guy has to be there when you are the worse team. Hw often in life will that happen maybe 5% chance more have failed than have succeeded. MR knows this but he wants Raider fans to bash the owner anyway he can think of. he’s not satisfied with his own hatred he must have yours as well.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:10 am
# mac Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 1:49 am
Maybe like George Allen he prefers vets.
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Why do you have to bring up George Allen? Why not just say that Al likes vets, and let that fact stand on its own? The more you bring up other GMs and coaches in the game to justify Al’s management, the more insecure you seem about it. “He does it too” are the words of someone who knows something is wrong.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:11 am
Name one person who has refered to Mr Davis as a genius that is so passe. Dude he’s the owne with a lot of flaws like the rest of us. He gives it his all and that is all anyone can ask.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:15 am
Priest, my point is, if Al were truly some kind of genius, there’d be more than one homegrown, successful QB in his half century of ownership.
Al drafted JaMarcus Russell with the number one overall pick, just three years ago, and you’re going to try to tell me that Al believes in veterans, and not franchise QBs? That is simply infallible. Al most certainly believes in the franchise QB. That’s why he drafted Russell. He’s just not smart enough to find a franchise QB in the draft. At least he hasn’t been in 40 years.
November 5th, 2010 at 2:17 am
Priest, if Al’s not a genius, then he’s just average, right? He’s just a common man, nothing really special about him? What’s with the eccentric personality then? The wardrobes? I mean, he’s obviously just an ordinary average guy, nothing special. That’s what you’re making it sound like now. I thought you guys believed Al was a notch above.
November 5th, 2010 at 5:15 am
Al is a notch above!
November 5th, 2010 at 5:30 am
I wish someone would just wipe his drivel out so I didnt have to look at it first thing in the morning.
November 5th, 2010 at 5:35 am
John Elway was suppose to be a Raider. When John got drafted out of Stanford by the then Baltimore Colts he said that he did not want to play on the east coast. So Al Davis had a trade worked out with Colts to get Elway until commissioner Pete Rozelle nix the trade. Somehow, Rozelle helped Denver Broncos worked out a trade for Elway and the rest is history. Just imagine Elway on those great Raider teams back then.
Now some of you younger Raider fans can understand why Al Davis is always into it with the NFL. I have been a Raider fan for 40 years and followed them closely.
November 5th, 2010 at 5:46 am
bcz24 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 5:30 am
I wish someone would just wipe his drivel out so I didnt have to look at it first thing in the morning.
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Oh I agree with that. I winced as I read the night crew’s thoughts on Al Davis and Jasizzurp. It hurt my head. That is like reading the thoughts of Skitsophrenics bouncing words off the rubber walls.
Ugh! Cant wait for the morning crew to come in here and talk sane.
November 5th, 2010 at 5:50 am
If you wanna draft a QB we should go with the kid from Boise State. He is really fast.
November 5th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Meant to say athletic. Perfect fit for an overachieving OL that sometimes plays bad
November 5th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
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And yup, I remember that one…hated the Donks ever since!!!!
RaiderReggie Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 5:35 am
John Elway was suppose to be a Raider. When John got drafted out of Stanford by the then Baltimore Colts he said that he did not want to play on the east coast. So Al Davis had a trade worked out with Colts to get Elway until commissioner Pete Rozelle nix the trade. Somehow, Rozelle helped Denver Broncos worked out a trade for Elway and the rest is history. Just imagine Elway on those great Raider teams back then.
Now some of you younger Raider fans can understand why Al Davis is always into it with the NFL. I have been a Raider fan for 40 years and followed them closely.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:04 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr
November 5th, 2010 at 6:07 am
I’ve hated John Elway all his career. He was a great QB, but the stunt he pulled to get away from being a Baltimore Colt and his elitist Stanford status made it easy to not like him. Landing on the Broncos made it even easier to hate him.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:08 am
“It would be a matter of continuing the process and cleaning it up and pushing it through to have a breakthrough.” -Tom Cable
Greatest Raider Coach EVER…. since 2001.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Top o’the morn to ya gents!
November 5th, 2010 at 6:10 am
LATER THAT SAME YEAR,THE RAIDERS AQUIRED MIKE HAYNES FROM N.E. IN A MID SEASON TRADE,NFL / ROZELLE TRIED TO NIX THAT ONE ALSO BUT EASED OFF SINCE THERE FINGER PRINTS WERE ALREADY ALL OVER THE ELWAY THING..
November 5th, 2010 at 6:10 am
That is true Jimbo! Kind of like how pretty much everyone hates Eli Manning…(well, at least SD Fans)…then Elway marries an old Raiderette…that kind of stuff should be tabboo…lol
November 5th, 2010 at 6:11 am
And that was a darn good trade for us! Missed those days…
November 5th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Pete Rozelle was a horrible Commish. His mishandling led to the strike shortned season of 1982.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:18 am
And that was the rise of free agency! Game (really) haven’t been the same since!
November 5th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Also, although I am not so sure of Roger Goodell’s rules that is making football more of a no contact sport…he has been to the Black hole twice already…not that it matters, though!
November 5th, 2010 at 6:26 am
THE PLAYERS UNION / NFLPA CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THAT 82 STRIKE,ROZELLE COULD HAVE DONE A FEW THINGS BETTER , BUT I WOULD TAKE HIM OVER BOTH GUY’S THAT HAVE FOLLOWED HIM SO FAR.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:30 am
And unfortunately…wasn’t that also Mr Upshaw?
Well…I think Goodell is more concerned with the safety of the game. Nothing wrong with that, but like one of the Raiders have said that he hopes that they won’t be playing flag football soon! Mitchell? Branch? Can’t remember…
November 5th, 2010 at 6:34 am
good morning AM crew!
blogging from Podunk today. i’m sick
November 5th, 2010 at 6:35 am
check this out fellas, hilarious
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Ex-NFL-QB-Jake-Plummer-is-playing-a-new-sport-th?urn=nfl-282499
November 5th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Culpeper a good mentor Bwhaa thats why his chubby butt is out of NFL, Jamarcus got his eating habits from Mr fumbles.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Goodell did some good things about player discipline. It had gotten out of hand, and he brought down the hard fist on the thugs. Good for him! That was needed.
But he is messing with the integrity of the game. The rules changes make it hard to recognize the game anymore. QB’s wear skirts and high heels, and WR’s don’t get catches unless they cradle the ball to the sidelines.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:39 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,SWINE-FLU,MALARIA,CYPHALIS,WHAT’S THE PROBLEM DUDE ?
November 5th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Amazing how much better the running game is without a slow no vision hack running into the OL every play and scoring TD how is that amazing talent doing on another NFL team, oh yeah the guy we started last year is in the UFL and Raiders can score again funny how that works.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2010 at 6:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 6:34 am
good morning AM crew!
blogging from Podunk today. i’m sick
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Sorry to hear….Get Well soon
November 5th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Yeah the catch/no catch rule has got to be addressed. These guys have to catch the ball, go down, get up, do 12 jumping jacks, run a lap, autograph the ball and give it to the refs son before they call it a catch… its ridiculous.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Sup Rock… you really sick, or just felt like using some of your personal time on a crappy Friday sick? I would be the latter (it is cold wet and gloomy and I would rather be in bed), but I am taking my employees over to the local (horse) racetrack for dinner, and a little fun. We sponsored a race and my staff will get their picture taken with the horse and jockey afterwards. Will be fun.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:46 am
BCZ24,WHERE CAN I GET AN APLICATION…
November 5th, 2010 at 6:53 am
thanks fellas. i’ve been sick since LAST friday
going to work every day looking & feeling like crap. I am the Brett Favre of accountint! (but I didnt send anybody pictures of Moby Dick)
nobody said jack about it at work. they were just like “so glad you are here. appreciate you coming in anyways!”
nobody said “go home – we dont want to catch it” or “maybe you should go see a doctor?”
finally yesterday I went in the boss’s office and told him i’m leaving right now for the urgent care.
Doc said I have acute bronchitis and if left untreated could turn into pneumonia. thats why Dayquil, Nyquil, hot tea and cough drops weren’t getting it done. got some ABX and cough syrup with codeine from Doc
November 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
cough syrup with codeine from Doc
*****
JAROCKSTAR!!!!
November 5th, 2010 at 6:57 am
ROCKSTAR, HAVE U TRY’D SOME PURPLE-DRANK ?
November 5th, 2010 at 6:59 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 6:46 am
BCZ24,WHERE CAN I GET AN APLICATION…
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LOL. It was a big year for us, we grew the business 32% over last year, considering the economy and my business is solely recreational that is astonishing. We aren’t shy about spending a little of the profits on the guys who make it happen!
November 5th, 2010 at 6:59 am
BCZ,
to treat your employees you should have had them over on Sunday afternoon for the horse race. burgers & dogs with chips and root beer = cheap!
McFadden, Bush, Charles & Jones are the horses.
I’ve got my money on DMAC
they could have their picture taken next to your life-size JaSizzurp cardboard cutout!
November 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
SWINE-FLU,MALARIA,CYPHALIS,WHAT’S THE PROBLEM DUDE ?
HAVE U TRY’D SOME PURPLE-DRANK ?
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LOL @ Dirt Lot!
you and Hwnrdr going to the game this week?
you guys should meet up with Br1en & Norco Bob in Lot A just for mere curiosity …
November 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD ORGANISATION,FROM TOP 2 BOTTOM BCZ24,KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
November 5th, 2010 at 7:03 am
It’s supposed to rain on Sunday, so…it may just be a horse race…
November 5th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Rock,
talking about JaSizzurp and while he’s on meds.
LOL
November 5th, 2010 at 7:04 am
LOL @ Dirt Lot!
you and Hwnrdr going to the game this week?
you guys should meet up with Br1en & Norco Bob in Lot A just for mere curiosity …
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I believe they are in lot D, and from what I understand…they are usually always around me, but don’t know who they are…
November 5th, 2010 at 7:04 am
JAROCKSTAR!!!!
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LOL. I actually slept last night, instead of staying awake coughing like crazy
no wonder JaMarcus was sleeping thru meetings!
poor guy
November 5th, 2010 at 7:06 am
I PARK IN LOT=A EVERY WEEK. PROBABLY NEXT NORCO BOB AND DONT EVEN REALIZE IT..
November 5th, 2010 at 7:08 am
did anybody read that article about Jake Plummer that I posted a link to?
pretty funny stuff, seriously
November 5th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Brien has told me one time that they’re in Lot D and then I told him that I’m usually about 8-10 rows back from Oracle and he said that I’m right around them…So, I don’t know…
Did you get a ticket, Dirt Lot? I think you said that you promised your tickets and were looking for another one…
November 5th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Plummer…the man, the myth, the hand ball legend…haha!
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 7:08 am
did anybody read that article about Jake Plummer that I posted a link to?
pretty funny stuff, seriously
November 5th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Plummer…the man, the myth, the hand ball legend…haha!
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Exactly!
LOL. this guy gave up millions of dollars playing football to go eat tater chips and play hand ball
November 5th, 2010 at 7:16 am
I AM GOING 2 HAVE 2 SIT THIS ONE OUT HWNRDR,NOT GOING TO SIT ON MT.DAVIS.A HUGE GAME.HOPE IT’S ON T.V.
November 5th, 2010 at 7:18 am
I AM GOING 2 HAVE 2 SIT THIS ONE OUT HWNRDR
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don’t make Rolando McClain angry!
you saw what he did to Danny Amendola …
November 5th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Coach Tom Cable said Gradkowski’s sprained passing shoulder has improved, but not to the point where it’s fully healed.
“I think he’s close, but not enough,” Cable said of Gradkowski, who returned to practice in limited fashion this week. “As I said the other day, he’s got to be able to do everything we need him to do and he’s improving, getting better, all that. But still, to say he’d be 100 percent, it wouldn’t be fair.”
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LOL @ Cable talking about being “fair”. He admits on the same day he lied about Schilens knee being a “minor scope”.
November 5th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Gonna be a purple party in Podunk? A little sipsip in da stix? Codeine on the rocks in the boondocks?
November 5th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Michael Silver says Oakland is starting to look like the 2002 team that advanced to the Super Bowl.
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/Y_Sports_NFL/22810216;_ylt=AjijTdby2VsnEOzxNDiG0JlDubYF#nfl/Y_Sports_NFL/22810216
November 5th, 2010 at 7:22 am
I’m sure it would be…and I serioulsy doubt that Rolando is going to be able to do that , Rockstar…
November 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
#55 IS A HELL OF AN ATHLETE ROCKSTAR,I GO 360 LBS B4 BREAKFAST,WOULD NOT WANT HIM 2 HAVE BACK PROBLEMS..
November 5th, 2010 at 7:25 am
254.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Michael Silver says Oakland is starting to look like the 2002 team that advanced to the Super Bowl.
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/Y_Sports_NFL/22810216;_ylt=AjijTdby2VsnEOzxNDiG0JlDubYF#nfl/Y_Sports_NFL/22810216
Off the deep end we goooooo, where we land??? Only Dakota knows!
November 5th, 2010 at 7:25 am
I serioulsy doubt that Rolando is going to be able to do that , Rockstar
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a DROY should be able to do anything!
LOL @ BSJ …
November 5th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Dirt Lot, can you long snap?
November 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
I CANT EVEN SHORT-SNAP…
November 5th, 2010 at 7:31 am
I guess we’re gonna have to put the franchise tag on Jon Condo then …
November 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Too funny…first with the question, then with the answer…
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Dirt Lot, can you long snap?
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
I CANT EVEN SHORT-SNAP…
November 5th, 2010 at 7:40 am
All thenaysayers are pointing out how fast K.C. is. What are we, the Clydesdales.
November 5th, 2010 at 7:47 am
We are a very fast team…just slow in the head sometimes….but getting better!
Thank you Hue Jackson!
November 5th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Trade Jon Condo for a Clydesdale!
November 5th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Darren McFadden –
Week 1: 150 yards, TD
Week 2: 153 yards
Week 3: 122 yards, TD
Week 4: 129 yards
Week 5: OUT – Bush 135 yards, TD
Week 6: OUT – Bush 59 yards
Week 7: 196 yards, 4 TD
Week 8: 135 yards
please. next time somebody whines about KC shutting down DMAC, shove this at them
November 5th, 2010 at 7:54 am
As long as Adam Schefter picks us to lose I will be happy. We always prove him wrong
November 5th, 2010 at 7:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 7:31 am
I guess we’re gonna have to put the franchise tag on Jon Condo then …
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Good idea! Then he would make the average of the top five highest paid longsnappers… which would be a huge decrease!
November 5th, 2010 at 7:55 am
DMAC is leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage. Thats with missing 2 games. I am certain we would have crushed the 49ers and be on a 4 game win streak had he not missed that game.
November 5th, 2010 at 7:57 am
This KC game on Sunday is the biggest Raiders game since the Superbowl! One more wins to get us above 500 would feel like the end of this almost 8-year nightmare. It’s so nice, after all of these horrific seasons, to finally see the Raiders as relevant both on the field and in the media. Keep running DMC.
November 5th, 2010 at 7:58 am
When will Dakota give credit to big Al Davis for drafting DMAC?
November 5th, 2010 at 8:01 am
When will Dakota give credit to big Al Davis for drafting DMAC?
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Dakota takes the credit for drafting DMAC, just like you take the credit for fixing him!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Then he would make the average of the top five highest paid longsnappers… which would be a huge decrease!
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thats actually true. LOL
November 5th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Bo Southwick Jackson?
November 5th, 2010 at 8:03 am
271.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 7:58 am
When will Dakota give credit to big Al Davis for drafting DMAC?
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I did so on draft day 2008!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Nope, we will keep paying Condo a million a year.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Al makes hundreds if not thousands of decisions for the team each year, he is bound to get a few right now and then.
McFadden happened to be one of his good decisions!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:06 am
$1.759 million
November 5th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Hey… he should get credit for hiring Tony Crable to coach the team back to prosperity.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:07 am
$1.759 million
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Lucky him
November 5th, 2010 at 8:08 am
The “Situation” makes more than $5 million a year to act like an idiot… there are bigger problems in the world!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:08 am
something to think about with Nnamdi Asomugha’s ankle injury …
Jones & Charles only have a COMBINED 5 rushing TD’s on the season, but Dwayne Bowe has 6 TD catches by himself
November 5th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Bowe will be a non-factor…
November 5th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Bowe has 21 catches for 357 yards and 6 TD’s
Louis Murphy has 21 catches for 337 yards and 1 TD.
pretty obvious they’ll be throwing some jump balls his way … seems to be their go-to guy in the red zone
Routt & CJ37 better be ready!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:12 am
KC Chefs welcome to Hells Kitchen… AKA the Oakland Colosseum.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Schlereth picked us to beat KC but still picks SD to win the division.
ESPN did a little segment on the Raider on this morning’s SportsCenter, said the running game is awesome and that it’s helped our play action:
Last year, 3 TD – 6 INT 59 QB rating
This year, 5 TD – 2 INT 105 QB rating
November 5th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Damn it!
ESPN reporting Nnamdi out 6-8 weeks with a fractured ankle:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5763078
November 5th, 2010 at 8:24 am
has ANY team slowed down KC’s rushing attack so far this year ???
Week 1: Charles 100 yards, TD. Jones 39 yards
Week 2: Charles 76 yards, Jones 88 yards
Week 3: Charles 154 yards, Jones 96 yards, TD
Week 4: bye
Week 5: Charles 101 yards, Jones 19 yards
Week 6: Charles 117 yards, Jones 110 yards, TD
Week 7: Charles 71 yards, TD. Jones 125 yards, TD
Week 8: Charles 238 yards, Jones 82 yards
we need Kelly, Seymour, McClain & Branch to play like they have the past 2 weeks!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Dakota, please refrain from being a c*cksucker.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:26 am
“Oakland Raiders RB Darren McFadden (hamstring) said following practice Wednesday, Nov. 3, that his hamstring is still not at 100 percent, according to Vittorio Tafur, of the San Francisco Chronicle. “I’m still keeping an eye an it, because at times it does still tighten on me,” McFadden said. “So one of the main things for me is just trying to keep it loose. That’s why in between series, you’ll see me on the sideline riding the bike, just trying to keep it loose.”
We need a new strength and conditioning guy.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Charles & Jones have 1416 total yards from scrimmage in 7 games!
thats an average of 202 yards per game.
we can’t allow that and expect to win!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Schlereth picked us to beat KC but still picks SD to win the division
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LOL!
go figure.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Last time Nnamdi sat out was a big game for us too… it was the Gruden Massacre…
November 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Schlereth picked us to beat KC but still picks SD to win the division
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LOL!
go figure.
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What do you expect from a Donkey. Probably expects the Broncos to rebound.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:42 am
293.bcz24 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Last time Nnamdi sat out was a big game for us too… it was the Gruden Massacre…
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The Gruden Massacre? You mean that game we won because Caddy Williams got injured for the Bucs and because Fargas got hurt and Cable was forced to let Michael Bush play?
November 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Danny Southwick just called me and ensured me that Nnamdi does not have an ankle fracture.
Dakota is just another professional liar (pawn broker).
November 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Mark Schlereth loves Tom Cable, but hates Al Davis.
so he’s really in a pickle. LOL
November 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
By Bill WilliamsonThanks to a suggestion from a reader, Parker, we’re going to look at an individual matchup in Sunday’s pivotal AFC West showdown between visiting Kansas City and Oakland.
This is a big game. Kansas City is 5-2 and in first place in the division. Oakland is 4-4 and in second place. These are two fairly evenly matched teams. I caught up with the astute Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. to look at one matchup that could play a major role in the outcome of the game.
Williamson thinks the key matchup will be Kansas City outside linebacker Tamba Hali against Oakland rookie left tackle Jared Veldheer.
Hali summary: The fifth-year player is flourishing as a 3-4 linebacker. He has seven sacks this season.
Veldheer summary: He is a third-round pick who is transitioning from tiny Hillsdale College in Michigan. He started the season at center, but has been moved to left tackle and has taken over. At 6-foot-8, Veldheeer was a poor fit at center, but he is playing well at left tackle and is a reason why Oakland is enjoying immense success on offense:
Matt Williamson’s breakdown: “I like what Veldheer has done, but this will be his biggest test. Hali is one of the best players at his position in the NFL. He doesn’t have great sack numbers, but he is always getting close to the quarterback. Veldheer can move well and he will need to against Hali. If Veldheer comes up big, Oakland will be able to pass the ball. But you have to give the edge to Hali. Veldheer is so tall and Hali can really play low well. I think he can get under Veldheer’s pads and move him around. If that’s the case, two of Oakland’s better receiving weapons, Darren McFadden and Zach Miller (who has a foot injury and may not play), will have to stay in and help. That would keep away a weapon … This is a real key to the game for both teams.”
November 5th, 2010 at 8:45 am
did D-Smooth put John Herrera out of work or something?
November 5th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Week 1: Charles 100 yards, TD. Jones 39 yards
Week 2: Charles 76 yards, Jones 88 yards
Week 3: Charles 154 yards, Jones 96 yards, TD
Week 4: bye
Week 5: Charles 101 yards, Jones 19 yards
Week 6: Charles 117 yards, Jones 110 yards, TD
Week 7: Charles 71 yards, TD. Jones 125 yards, TD
Week 8: Charles 238 yards, Jones 82 yards
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Are those ground numbers are yards from scrimmage?
November 5th, 2010 at 8:47 am
gentlemen, ladies,
this year’s Raider team does not appear to be one that is waiting to fail or crumble. they seem to be rising and solidifying.
this year’s KC team has squeaked out some improbable victories, but the fact remains that they sy<K!
November 5th, 2010 at 8:48 am
No Herrera is stillin charge of ignoring the media and executing grudge paybacks.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Are those ground numbers are yards from scrimmage?
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scrimm
same as I did above for McFadden
November 5th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dakota Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:42 am
293.bcz24 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Last time Nnamdi sat out was a big game for us too… it was the Gruden Massacre…
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The Gruden Massacre? You mean that game we won …..
***everything else will be stricken from the record***
November 5th, 2010 at 8:49 am
No Herrera is stillin charge of ignoring the media and executing grudge paybacks
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well i wish him the best in regards to Kiffin & JaWalrus
November 5th, 2010 at 8:52 am
If Herrera is ever caught on one of his clandestine sabotage missions, he keeps cyanide at the ready…. just in case.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:55 am
The key to this game will be our offense’s ability to sustain drives and put up points.
Get going early, force KC out of their comfort zone and put the game on Cassel’s arm.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Like the Celtics used to do to the Lakers in Boston, time for fire drills at the Chiefs hotel.
November 5th, 2010 at 8:56 am
304.LA to TheBay Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Dakota Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:42 am
293.bcz24 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Last time Nnamdi sat out was a big game for us too… it was the Gruden Massacre…
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The Gruden Massacre? You mean that game we won …..
***everything else will be stricken from the record***
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lol
November 5th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Stan Routt’s been playing pretty well as of late. Johnson can bite on double moves, but as long as we can bottle up their receivers, we’ll be OK on the outside.
McCluster, without really seeing too much on film of him, seems like he’d be real solid in the slot, where we’d be weak with the youngster Ware.
Fortunately for us, I don’t think McCluster will be 100%, if he goes at all.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I went back and watched that second half of the Rams game.
My conclusion is this: as long as we keep running well, doesn’t matter who is QB.
But when Bruce gets back, there will be zero drop off, for those concerned with messing with a good thing.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Are those ground numbers are yards from scrimmage?
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scrimm
same as I did above for McFadden
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Id be interested to see pure rushing #s for each game,
November 5th, 2010 at 9:06 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Like the Celtics used to do to the Lakers in Boston, time for fire drills at the Chiefs hotel.
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It wasnt a felony back then…
November 5th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I wish they would vary the snap count/try some hard counts, try some no huddle, keep their defense off guard
November 5th, 2010 at 9:11 am
This game is HUGE. Man, I hope our run game gets going early. This will be the key to success. That and stopping their running game.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:12 am
davidon Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I wish they would vary the snap count/try some hard counts, try some no huddle, keep their defense off guard
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I just really wish we could clean up all the false starts and delays of game and every game having to burn a timeout ’cause we’re not ligned up properly.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:12 am
lined up*
November 5th, 2010 at 9:13 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 9:00 am
My conclusion is this: as long as we keep running well, doesn’t matter who is QB.
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EXACTLY. If DMAC & Co. can get it going, we have a good chance to put this team away.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Have a nice weekend fellas!
GOOOOO RAIDERS AND LAKERS!!!!!
November 5th, 2010 at 9:14 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Like the Celtics used to do to the Lakers in Boston, time for fire drills at the Chiefs hotel.
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jon Condo…
November 5th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Just don’t let the team read any press clippings saying they’re in some way like the 2002 Super Bowl team or whatever.
Cable still needs to make sure that they don’t get ahead of themselves.
Whatever the coaches did the last two weeks (IE game plan correctly by minimizing your own weaknesses and exposing the other team’s) keep doing it.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:16 am
must feel good for some of you younger Raider fans to have this Sunday’s game actually mean something with regards to possible playoff implications.
feels good to us older folks too.
have no fear. expect no failure. Raiders keep rollin’ to 5-4 and into the Bye.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:16 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Get going early, force KC out of their comfort zone and put the game on Cassel’s arm.
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Yep. The first team that has to rely on its QB to win the game will lose. Whether it’s us or the Chiefs. Mark it down cause that’s how it’s going down. We run well and stop their run, we win. Other way around, we lose. Simple as that.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Morning peoples!
November 5th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Well, folks. Looks like rain on Sunday. Which only makes running the ball and stopping the run that much more important.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:19 am
must feel good for some of you younger Raider fans to have this Sunday’s game actually mean something with regards to possible playoff implications.
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Correctamundo!
November 5th, 2010 at 9:20 am
The restaurant caterer that was sharply criticized by Randy Moss for the food it prepared for the Vikings last week is now offering free lunches to Minnesota fans who turn in their Moss jerseys.
Tinucci’s in Minnesota, which has generated welcomed attention since Moss’ alleged outburst, is offering free chicken, ribs, and beef to the first 50 people who give their Moss jerseys. The jerseys will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs in Nashville, where Moss is now playing. Since Moss criticized the food, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf personally apologized to Gus Tinucci.
Source: Nashville Tennessean
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Some funny schit.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Morning DMAC
November 5th, 2010 at 9:20 am
DMAC!,
you ready to run a chip block naked slip screen for a 68 yard Raider TD on Sunday or is your hammy bothering you?
November 5th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Wassup fellas!
November 5th, 2010 at 9:22 am
You know I’m ready.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Looks like rain on Sunday. Which only makes running the ball and stopping the run that much more important
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the grunts on the O-Line love this stuff. these run the ball 40 times to keep punching them in the mouth routine never gets old
we’ll mix it up on occasion though with a reverse, some dump offs to DMAC, Bush, Reece & Myers. a few slants to see if we can get DHB or Ford some YAC and the deep ball 3 or 4 times to keep their DB’s honest
November 5th, 2010 at 9:24 am
DMAC,
Zygi Wilf should give Tinnuci’s a food court spot at the Viking’s stadium as gratitude for helping get rid of Moss.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am
This game is getting a ton of hype and they’re mostly talking about our resurgence not the Chiefs when they have the better record so they probably feel a little disrespected. Let’s see if we can handle the pressure
November 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Yeah, that’s the least he should do.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
does this mean Tinucci’s will no longer serve Inta Juice products ???
November 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
If it’s going to rain. We need to be extra careful w/ the ball. Ball security will be major. Can’t afford stupid turnovers.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Wassup folks!
Why am I really not worried about this game?
Since the defense has figured out how to NOT get beat by that same old play action pass, and has moved ShoNasty in at DE I don’t see us having ANY problem with Tom Jones.
Jamal Charles is a gimmick back and they very well have 150 yds total rushing and a TD or 2. SO WHAT!
Raiders 29
KC 17
November 5th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Inonewordraider,
KC is a wisp of a breeze waiting to disappear whereas the Raiders are a storm front gathering momentum to sweep the continent.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:31 am
How do the Chiefs gameplan for Marcel Reese?
As long as our 3 back attack is in full effect, I think we will be fine.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Tony Bruno last night was proclaiming DMAC as the MVP for first half of the season
November 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
J Hill Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 9:31 am
How do the Chiefs gameplan for Marcel Reese?
As long as our 3 back attack is in full effect, I think we will be fine.
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My prediction was Marcel will be the difference.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Worried about Aso being out. Do they have a fourth corner if they go 4 wideouts?
November 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
I think offense will have to keep scoring to help out the defense.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Weezy McFadden is ready to play, or Huff, with Stevie Brown and Branch at safeties
November 5th, 2010 at 9:38 am
the Raiders are a storm front gathering momentum to sweep the continent.
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I like to think of them as an Autumn Wind
November 5th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Talk about mini milestones this season, breaking the 13 game streak vs Diego, winning back to backs for first time since 02, trying to win 3 in a row since 02, trying to beat KC at home for the first time since 02…
November 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Bcz24,
well said. The Autumn Wind it is.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Echoing RRS in that I’m not worried about Nnamdi being out and facing that nothing QB Matt Cassell.
We are back to playing tight man to man instead of that zone so CJ37 and Routt will do just fine.
Jeremy Ware is a player and our 3 S can more than pick up the slack.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Game of the Week on SI………
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/kerry_byrne/11/05/raiders.chiefs.GOTW/index.html?eref=twitter_feed
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I like hearing this type of schit. Raiders are finally, no longer the laughingstock of the league.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Jhill!
hey playa, keep doin your thang
November 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Raiders 31
chiefs 20
November 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
the only way the fyKCs score 20 is if the Oaktowners have special team failures or cough up the ball.
look for the fyKCs to be in single digits and licking their wounds with their heads down when exiting the Coliseum.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:56 am
the only way the fyKCs score 20 is if the Oaktowners have special team failures or cough up the ball
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that would be sweet if we held them under 20!
my original prediction was Oakland 31 KC 28
November 5th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Sorry, guys I don’t share some of the enthusiasm you do. Not saying we’re going to lose, cause I think we will gut this one out, but I am rather worried about the KC coaching staff.
They have those boys prepared.
The good news is that it appears ours are finally starting to do the same.
We got home field in a very even matchup, which gives us the edge.
But I still think it’s going to be a good ol fashioned AFC West Slugfest.
November 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I like hearing this type of schit. Raiders are finally, no longer the laughingstock of the league.
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except they predict us to choke.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
cz24 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I like hearing this type of schit. Raiders are finally, no longer the laughingstock of the league.
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except they predict us to choke.
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I think that’s actually kind of good. Gets the players motivated.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am
J Hill, the last time I – in my heart of hearts – was not worried about the game was SF.
As long as the Raiders don’t play like they’re not worried, I think we’ll be OK.
Again, the keys to the game will be:
-Getting started early
-Putting up points
-Executing in the Red Zone (Get the ball to Zach, please)
-Staying disciplined on D
-Forcing them to pass and go out and destroy Matt Cassell
November 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
This team need’s to come out with more Fire than they’ve had all year.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:06 am
We need to play EXACTLY like we have in the last 2 weeks. A bully. Both sides of the ball. Just like Hue said we would be.
A bully.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:06 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
This team need’s to come out with more Fire than they’ve had all year.
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I know “Rock Head” Cartwright will be pumped!
November 5th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Boone on either side of each team(take away the coaches) has played in a game of this magnitude in a while but big Richard Seymour we have that advantage there an plus we at home an sold out. Big rich Seymour will have our boys prepared up front. An mc clain has turned up his game. Like I said
Raiders 31
chiefs 20
I hope the chefs don’t score sh$$$t tho
November 5th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Raider defense goals: Contain Thomas Jones and Jamal Charles on screens and contain McCluster in the slot. Maintain gap control and do not overpursue when KC runs the football, they like doing counters and misdirection also.
Put consistent pressure on Cassell from all angles and look for him to throw to his 1st or 2nd read. He has the tendency to lock in to his 1st read. Get some INTS!
Raider offense goals: Do what they have been doing. Mix up the play calls, run reverses, run fake reverses, counters and traps. Pund the rock with DMC, Bush in the running game and use them and Reece in the passing game. Run reverses with Ford and DHB, bubble screens and then run play action roll outs. I would also like to see some sneak plays and screens for Cartwright or Bennett out of the backfield and catch the Queef defense off guard.
Protect the football.
Special Teams goals: Block well and run some fake reverses and run a reverse to catch them KC special teams off guard.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Dknight,
Looks like McCluster won’t play this weekend.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:14 am
DMAC Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Dknight,
Looks like McCluster won’t play this weekend.
^^^^^^^^
Nice!
I think CJ or Routt should be able to hang with Bowe. I would put CJ on him. Don’t trust Routt against him.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:14 am
No McCluster is a good thing for the Raiders. He hasn’t made a massive impact so far this season, but he’s the kind of player that opens up the playbook for his team. He’s also the kind of player the Raiders have had problems containing in the past.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Raiders defense needs to make sure to wrap up and gang tackle!
November 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
I’m not too worried about Bowe as long as the Raiders defense can contain the run. But if they can’t stop the running game, it’s going to open up the passing game.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
The Indianapolis Star reports that Colts WR Anthony Gonzalez injured the PCL in his knee during a Week 8 win over Houston and could miss the rest of the season.
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what is it with these OSU Suckeyes and their knees???…Gonzalez, Wells…
November 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Dexter McCluster (ankle) was limited again in Thursday’s practice.
It’s not looking good for his chances of suiting up this weekend. Although the Chiefs have yet to officially term it as such, it’s suspected that McCluster has a high ankle sprain, which can sometimes sideline players for at least a month.
Source: Kent Babb on Twitter
November 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
We’ve been good all year stopping the run, but then we allow a big run, we have to stop it for 4 quarters!!! That speaks to our weak depth at DL with Henerson sidelined
November 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
When we’re in the red zone, we need to capitalize and score TD’s, not fg’s!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Got hooked up with some nice seats, and will be pre partying with the hook up at the West Side.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:22 am
DKinght,
I need the hook-up too!
Wassup?
November 5th, 2010 at 10:22 am
bcz24 Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:06 am
We need to play EXACTLY like we have in the last 2 weeks. A bully. Both sides of the ball. Just like Hue said we would be.
A bully.
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Bout damn time!
That’s what the Raiders were when I was growing up. Black colors, huge dudes that INTIMIDATED the weenies on the other side of the field. We’d win games before they were played.
Be the Bully! That would be a nice new call to arms for the Raiders.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Heard on the radio as guys were going over week 8 game picks: Raiders-Chiefs? Raiders. Marcel Reece . . . watch this fullback. He is a matchup nightmare for teams, the way they are using him now. Fast out of the backfield. Screens. Quick slants. He catches everything thrown at him, just like he did at Washington. This kid can play. Also keep an eye on Tyvon Branch. The ball always seems to find him.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:23 am
DMAC Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:21 am
When we’re in the red zone, we need to capitalize and score TD’s, not fg’s!!!!!!!
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Another HUGE key!
Lets hope Z Miller can play effectively this weekend.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
OSU players get tender knees by kneeling to service Wolverines…thus the term Suckeyes…LOL
November 5th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Question??????
Fantasy ballers.
Should I start Wes Walker or Mario Manningham?
November 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Or Lee Evans?
November 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
The real mismatch is going to be with Marcel Reese this weekend. If you don’t have him in fantasy I say get him. Good morning Nation. Go Raiders.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
DMAC Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Question??????
Fantasy ballers.
Should I start Wes Walker or Mario Manningham?
^^^^^^
Welker
November 5th, 2010 at 10:31 am
I’d start Evans on 2nd thought.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Thanx, for the feedback.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Ghost to the Post Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:30 am
The real mismatch is going to be with Marcel Reese this weekend. If you don’t have him in fantasy I say get him. Good morning Nation. Go Raiders.
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The problem is he is a fullback and it would kick off a real good RB off my squad. If he was considered a TE, then he’d be gold.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am
I use him in my flex league. And last week I used him because Ahmad Bradshaw was on a bye.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I can just see the cameras focus on Campbell doing his McNabb salute just before the Raiderers 1st series.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:41 am
I bet ole Shanny rat wishes he hadn’t traded JC away now. He has a mess on his hands.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
JC has never been in a game of this importance. Need to get him settled down right out of the gate.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
McNabb is washed up. Shanarat thought he was being cute dishing us his garbage. He stole McNabb away from us and smirked at us the whole time.
Whose the sucker, Shanny?
November 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Jake Plummer really dissed on Shanarat. If you went 10 for 14, he focused on the 4 misses, never let up. Always looking for the next Elway.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
DMAC… Welker is no longer a viable fantasy option, I would say Manningham has the best matchup against a weak Seattle secondary. Welker has averaged only 3 catches a week since Moss left. Evans is an intriquing option against Chicago… I think Buffalo gets off the schneid this week against the floundering bears.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
And if McNabb isn’t washed up he sure doesn’t have much support from his coach. Which will only poison his leadership in the locker room. How do you bench your starter at clutch time and then say he is your guy and that you trust him.. You just lost the whole team.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
JC has never been in a game of this importance. Need to get him settled down right out of the gate.
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This is the type of game that JC plays his finest. Last 2 weeks… must wins, JC came through, SD game, must win, JC came through. Saints last year, JC almost pulled it out in a game they had no business being in. I think this kid thrives in the spotlight.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
the KC-OAK games seem to mostly end up as shootouts. With these two prolific rushing attacks, I expect that to be the case Sunday.
34-31 Raiders
So exciting to be a part of the NFL again, rather than just a side story. It is amazing how quickly the media has jumped on the bandwagon and starting writing all these positive stories about the Raiders. Even Mel Kiper did a piece on how well Al Davis has drafted in recent years, crazy right?!?!
November 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
If I was McNabb I will drill Shanny in the face with an “errant ball”…
November 5th, 2010 at 10:55 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
JC has never been in a game of this importance. Need to get him settled down right out of the gate.
I might be wrong but I think JC went 13-0 his SR year at Auburn. There must have been a few big games in there.
November 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Just playing against the SEC week in and Week out is enough big games, big crowds, and big pressure. It’s not a lie.
November 5th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Hey Jerry,
Looks like the game sold out. So McClain is no longer able to give you a “No Comment” for the rest of the season. Don’t let him off the hook.