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No sign of Nnamdi, Zach Miller

The Raiders started practice Friday the way they have every other day this week _ without cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and tight end Zach Miller.

Although Cable isn’t likely to say it following practice, there is a very real possibility the Raiders will face the division-leading Kansas City Chiefs Sunday without their Pro Bowl cornerback and Pro Bowl alternate tight end.

Asomugha has a sprained ankle, Miller an injured arch. Cable said he expects Miller to play, but the fact is he hasn’t even set foot on the field to watch practice, let along warm up or jog through a workout like Louis Murphy. The last time anyone in the media saw Miller, he was on crutches.

Even if Miller does play, it’s hard to imagine him being anything near 100 percent, as he was limping badly at times in the Seattle win.

Defensive tackle John Henderson (stress fracture) was also not at practice. Wide receiver Chaz Schilens was spotted walking to a separate field with a member of the athletic training staff.

A word on ticket sales _ the deadline extension to sell enough tickets and prevent a local television blackout can go beyond 24 hours. The Raiders could make an announcement either way in the late afternoon or evening and can sell tickets beyond 1:15 p.m. that count toward a sellout.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Nnamdi21

    48. Darn skippy there partner…Go McCLain!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE

    ***

    seriously man. he’s a little firecracker that has zero regard for his own health.

    if Hue Jax allows him to be #2, he’ll be itching to get in there. he’s the type of guy that flys by the seat of his pants. not near as conservative as JCamp.

    I wonder if thats why they are always telling JCamp to quit thinking and cut it loose?

    in other words, be like Bruce. haha

  • RaidingTexas

    Anyone here got ESPN Insider? Can you repost that Kiper draft analysis somewhere else?

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    Kiper’s article

    —————————–
    Every year after I put out my draft grades, there’s a mountain of email and comments saying the same thing: “Mel, you (insert adjective), you can’t grade a draft for at least a few years!” But that’s not true. You can’t grade the success of the actual picks for a few years, but you can absolutely grade a draft. Let me explain:

    A draft isn’t just about who you picked, it’s about when you picked him. If Jerry Jones bought Google stock at $5.00 and Mike Holmgren bought it at $50.00, they’d both be rich, but it’s clear who played the market more adeptly. So when the Jags picked Tyson Alualu at No. 10, I didn’t slam the player — I praised Alualu often when he was at Cal, and I like his start in Jacksonville — but I did question the ability of the Jags to maximize their draft. Taking a guy at No. 10 who they could have landed at picks 28 thru 38 could potentially have cost them a couple more picks. You can’t just have a sense of who you want, you should have a sense of who other teams covet. It’s called a draft, not “pick your favorite guy.”

    That’s an important example when discussing the Raiders. We’ve heard so many criticisms of Al Davis — he’s too old, he’s out of touch, he’s infatuated with physical talent, he believes in a deep-ball system that doesn’t work, his drafting is wacky — but people within that organization have told me that within the last few years, the old man has been as sharp as ever, particularly when it comes to his input on players. Really. And as you look at recent drafts and decisions, you’ll see that Davis and the Raiders are experiencing a revival because of a keen eye for talent (if not a sense of draft know-how) and some solid personnel decisions and hires. Let’s look at some keys.

    The draft: Perhaps peaking with the pick of Darrius Heyward-Bey at No. 7 and Mike Mitchell in Round 2 in 2009, there’s been a lot of criticism with how the Raiders have drafted. Again it’s not the picks, it’s that some of them could have been picked later. But in terms of picking starters, Davis and Co. have done well in the last few years, particularly in identifying talent in later rounds. The team will get slammed for taking JaMarcus Russell in 2007, but few saw what a trainwreck he would become.Look deeper at that draft. Zach Miller (Round 2) is currently the Raiders leading pass-catcher. Johnnie Lee Higgins and Michael Bush have become contributors as deep picks. In 2008, the team got Darren McFadden, who’s living up to expectations now, but they were brilliant late in getting Tyvon Branch, Trevor Scott and Chaz Schilens. Aside from Heyward-Bey (starter) and Mitchell (starter), last year produced the solid Matt Shaughnessy and Louis Murphy. Four developing starters from one draft just a year removed is good work.

    And 2010’s draft has proven solid so far. There had been a joke going around the ESPN draft set after the Raiders picked Rolando McClain, Lamarr Houston and Jared Veldheer with their first three picks that perhaps Davis had skipped the early rounds. That’s because each guy was extremely productive in college, as opposed to being defined by their physical ability. In Houston, for example, the Raiders got a guy who was more productive than Gerald McCoy against the same schedule, over 30 picks later. Then the Raiders got a great value pick in Bruce Campbell in Round 4, and the snickers continued. But Davis perhaps didn’t get enough credit. All three of those early picks are solid starters early in their careers. Even a late get like Jacoby Ford, who is clearly more known for his speed than production, could develop. Bottom line is people can rightfully question the draft reaches, but in simply picking players Oakland is on a decent run.

    Hiring Hue Jackson: I considered this an inspired hire at the time, and I continue to. Jackson came from Baltimore, where he was instrumental in the development of Joe Flacco, and his magic touch has expanded with the Oakland offense. The offense is scoring 26.5 points per game after scoring 12.3 last year (the Denver game is an outlier, but in reality it could have been worse). Jackson has tapped into McFadden’s strengths. People who gave up on McFadden as an inside runner forget that he hadn’t been used in another role — the passing game. Now, he’s the team’s third-leading pass-catcher and has 885 yards from scrimmage (and that’s after missing two games). Overall, the Raiders are second in the NFL in total offense. It’s a stunning turnaround. Jackson has to get credit for his role in the revival.

    They found a pass rush: A lot of people griped about the Richard Seymour trade with New England because it again highlighted a lack of respect for the value of early draft picks. But nobody is upset with the revival of the Raiders’ rush. The team currently has 24 sacks, good for third in the NFL and well past the pace of last year, when it had 37 for the season. More importantly, Shaughnessy leads the team with five, so they’ve found depth and spread the wealth. The addition of Kamerion Wimbley didn’t get the press of the Seymour move, but it’s paid off.

    Sleepers: Good teams find value where others missed it. Marcel Reece, a former WR turned fullback, has been a good find. Veldheer’s versatility on the O-line has been helpful. Shaughnessy’s development as a pass-rusher has been huge.

    Style: It goes back to Jackson, but people need to suspend the illusion that the Raiders are somehow married to Davis’ trademark vertical game. A tight end leads the team in catches, McFadden and Reece have combined for 31 catches, which is 10 more than Murphy’s total and 12 more than Heyward-Bey’s. Jackson is calling a game that fits the strengths of the personnel, not playing run-run-deep ball as some tend to think all of Davis’ teams do. That cliche should go away.

    So what’s next?

    As I look at their current personnel from a draft perspective, I see next April’s needs focusing on:

    OLB: The team could look for a starter to supplant Quentin Groves, and there figures to be some good ones to choose from.

    CB: The secondary is actually solid, which makes it a great time to try to capitalize on the improved pass rush and add a ball-hawking talent who could help add INTs.

    WR: Murphy and Heyward-Bey are adequate, but they’ll likely look for another sleeper at this position.

    OL: Because they may be improved, but they aren’t deep.

    QB project: While Jackson is around, there’s no better time to take on a potential athlete with a big arm, such as Delaware’s Pat Devlin or Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick to see if you can develop him.

    In any event, while it’s just been half a season, a Raiders team that should be 5-3 (a missed FG against Arizona is the reason they’re 4-4) finally appears to be on the upswing. And they’ve proven that just because a team didn’t get the best price for its stock doesn’t mean it doeesn’t have a solid portfolio.

  • Nnamdi21

    18 of Okalands 53 man roster are rookies or 2nd yr…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives/exclusives_20

    Man, that bodes well for the future!

  • DMAC

    Key Match up………. IMO

    OLB Tamba Hali vs LT Veldheer

  • Nnamdi21

    Kiper robbed RNS.

  • RaiderRockstar

    We need to really keep an eye on Tamba Hali. Can’t afford him to come around and sack Campbell for a turnover.

    ***

    Veldheer will destroy Hali. I just hope they don’t test him on the other side against that slow road grader Langston Walker, who seems like he’s playing through an injury every other game

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    Kiper thinks he has us down, but more so than an OLB with our front 7 performing the way it is and us not getting burned on HB screens anymore, our biggest needs are still on the offensive line…

    East coast media doesn’t even watch us for real…you can tell…thats why they joke and snicker and they all say the same crap about us when asked to evaluate our performance…can’t wait ’till we expose Cassel on Sunday and show the world the real reason we’re winning is ’cause our defensive front 7 is playing like they’re one of the best in the biz

  • Nnamdi21

    Man, Veldheer!

    What a find. Center and LT and playing at a high level already.

    I remember bashing for putting him in so early. The kid got smoked but he needed to be thrown into the deep end and he’s responded.

    With Gallery back the left side instantly got better.

  • 2 for 1!!!!!! Let’s go Nation!!

  • VanHeathen

    Love Veldheer, his interview on Comcast b4 the season spoke to his drive and determination to make a mark on this team, hoping he continues his rise on Sunday…
    Just Win Baby!

  • Nnamdi21

    59. Our D is playing well because the offense is keeping them off the field, keeping them fresh and limiting thier exposure.

    The Raiders pass rush cover D is optimal with a lead.

    We’ve been sustaining drives, eating the clock and scoring TDs.

    Hope we can do that against KC. If we can, skies the limit.

  • Nnamdi21

    Off to see a man about a horse…

    Enjoy the day Raider Nation! Smoke them Chiefs!!!

  • morilla

    It’s funny to read the boards. KC fans act like they have been the Colts for the past ten years.

  • We need the fans to be involved in this game.

    Raiders 27
    KC 20

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    Nnamdi – yep that too….finally, the D doesn’t have to be on the field for 38 minutes a game, and the front 7 is all the more thankful for it….

    Gotta love how young we are on D too…..I’d rather we just keep our current draft picks for next year and not try to bunch ’em together to get a #1, unless we know we can get our starting RT…we can find a starting Center later with the picks we have, and nothing except maybe an elite weakside backer will be worth moving up for anyhow, and we’re not in dire straits for one of those like I even thought we would be

  • I think the Raiders can manage without Nnamdi against KC, they aren’t passing much.

  • Trade Jon Condo for Mel Kiper!

  • mikedlopes

    CBS saying the game is SOLD OUT -NO MORE BLACK OUT!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKqX_JcZcA

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    MEL KIPER / EDDIE MUNSTER SHOULD JUST STICK WITH THE SHORT BIO’S ON THE PLAYERS, AND NOT THE PREDICTIONS ON HOW GOOD OR BAD THEY WILL BE IN THE NFL..

  • RaidingTexas

    Thanks SandB!

  • Carl Weathers

    You guys are giving the queefs too much credit.

    Raiders 27-13.

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    yea, you got that right Dirt-lot…at least he was man enough to write something positive about us over there at the mothership with all the haters surrounding him there…..Chad Millman wrote earlier in the week about how the wiseguys who bet big in Vegas have been loving the Raiders this year and their ATS record too……Someone said Colin even picked us to win this weekend today…. and Colin and Jeremy Green LOVE to bash us every chance they get….

  • Mike Davis 36

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
    stubblebuzz Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
    what’s Todd Christensen doing this weekend?
    ———————–

    Pondering the prolific and monumental repugnance of the quandary that is the magnanimous yet mysterious malignant Allen Davis.

    ______________________________________

    You nailed it. Even without the -ly.

  • SilverAndBlackBleeder

    no prob RaidingTex….I’m still shocked he took the time to write that much about us after giving us crappy grades year after year

  • PurpleDrank81

    I love the fact that Kiper through out Kaepernick as a qb we should look at……Yes Kaepernick….He’s not a house hold name but he will be a great pro eventually

  • Carl Weathers

    I think CJ, Routt, Huff & Ware will be fine in coverage. Sure they will give up a big play or two but as long as they don’t end up for 6.

    Myers may be the guy to watch if Miller is out.
    Nnamdi is definitely out until the steelers game. I’ve had the same injury, I felt his pain when I watched it live last week. He’s probably still walking with a limp but he’ll be fine after next week and should be at practice the week of the pitt game.

  • DutchRaider77

    Wonder if we already have the OLB in T. Goethel? (re: Kipper comments)

    Would really love the hype to be true!

  • bcz24

    Anyone think MHenderson can be resurected on the right side?

  • RaidingTexas

    morilla Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 11:42 am
    It’s funny to read the boards. KC fans act like they have been the Colts for the past ten years.
    ——————————–
    Kansas City has internet?

  • PurpleDrank81

    Yea Kc is talking a big game….Supposedly since they shut down Peyton for no TD’s that they’ll completely shut Campbell down and that mcfadden wont have 50 yards….. I guess every1 in KC is high as a kite

  • Jimbo

    Even Peter King is giving Raiders love, predicts Raiders 20, Chiefs 12

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Fellas!

    Heck of a read here. A Seahawks blogger does a play by play breakdown of the first quarter of last week’s game to see how the Raiders destroyed the Seahawks so effectively:

    http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/11/3/1792264/why-the-seahawks-offense-fails-at-oakland

    Short version: They stacked the box and dared Hasselbeck to beat them and he couldn’t. Also, Seattle’s line sucks.

    Raiders were even selling out against the run on 2nd and 29.

    With Nnamdi likely out, that gameplan is gonna be harder to pull off, but I expect to see a somewhat safer version of it in action on Sunday.

    Stop the run. Murder Cassel. Win the game.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Been reading some Chiefs blogs. Apparently Raiders fans are all criminals, DMac might as well not play because he won’t get more than six inches past the line of scrimmate, it doesn’t matter if Nnamdi is in or not because Dwayne Bowe is good enough to beat him regardless and the Raiders could play with 15 men on the field and Jamaal Charles would still run to victory with his winged sneakers.

    The ganja train must be running full tilt through KC.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Kaepernick is a guy that if you have the patience to sit him for 2 seasons could do big things in the league.

    Maybe Al, Cable and Hue are already thinking in that direction…Kaepernick runs the Pistol at Nevada and the Raiders have broken that out the past couple weeks! LOL.

    I like Andy Dalton out of TCU as a guy to take a 6th or 7th round flyer on. He’s not brilliant, but he’s accurate, mobile and just flat out gets it done. Would like to see him after Hackett has a year to work with him.

  • Carl Weathers

    bcz24 Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    Anyone think MHenderson can be resurected on the right side?
    ****************
    Surprisingly, Walker has done really well there. How about Bruce Campbell at RT, or is he destined to replace Carlisle?

  • bcz24

    No one thinks Cassel is a better QB than Hasselbeck though. Same plan, big difference is the quality of running back. IF we hold Thomas Jones to the same production as Marshawn Lynch I am picking us to go to the Super Bowl!

  • bcz24

    Walker hasnt been terrible, but he clearly is not the future. Lets be honest, do you think in week 16 he will be able to handle Robert Mathis? I dont.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    bcz24 Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    Walker hasnt been terrible, but he clearly is not the future. Lets be honest, do you think in week 16 he will be able to handle Robert Mathis? I dont.

    ++++++++++++++

    Or Lamarr Woodley against Pittsburgh for that matter.

  • bcz24

    it doesn’t matter if Nnamdi is in or not because Dwayne Bowe is good enough to beat him regardless
    *****
    I just laughed so loud my assistant came running in asking that I show her the joke!!! LOL… Bowe… the guy who has equal #s to Louis Murphy, will beat Nnamdi… where NO other receiver can? They have to be ruh-tards up there in Podunkia… (sorry rock, you cleary dont fit)

  • Thec07

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 11:30 am
    42. Kiper = Count Chocula…

    +++++++++++++++++

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…LMAO….

  • Carl Weathers

    Do you think Henderson wil do better than Walker THIS season? I sure don’t.

  • Thec07

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    Fellas!

    Heck of a read here. A Seahawks blogger does a play by play breakdown of the first quarter of last week’s game to see how the Raiders destroyed the Seahawks so effectively:

    http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/11/3/1792264/why-the-seahawks-offense-fails-at-oakland

    Short version: They stacked the box and dared Hasselbeck to beat them and he couldn’t. Also, Seattle’s line sucks.

    Raiders were even selling out against the run on 2nd and 29.

    With Nnamdi likely out, that gameplan is gonna be harder to pull off, but I expect to see a somewhat safer version of it in action on Sunday.

    Stop the run. Murder Cassel. Win the game.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    I beleive we will deploy a similiar scheme…I can even see more blitzing….castle is in for a rude awakening…ask haslaback….
    +++++++++++++++++

  • Thec07

    Raider 39 – KC 10

  • Thec07

    LTR NATION….

  • bcz24

    One thing is for sure. This game is going to be a good old fashioned Slobberknocker!

  • Hot Shot

    Raiders will beat KC 35 to 6.KC will get their asses handed to them.Goooooooooo RRRRRRRRRAIDERS.

  • HairyBush

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