Cable Q&A
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 8th, 2010 at 7:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Tom Cable addresses the quarterback situation and other issues during a press briefing with Bay Area media the day after a 23-20 overtime win over Kansas City:
Cable: OK, let’s get an injury update here. McClain with a hip pointer. Didn’t finish yesterday but was much, much better today. Asomugha, with the ankle, he’s improving. Tyvon Branch felt pretty good today. John Henderson with the foot, we’ll probably get him back to work next week at some point. Murphy should start to work here tomorrow. Schilens, potential for him to work next week. Zach Miller is better, and I think we’ll be smart with that this week. And then Gradkowski is improving, continuing to do that. So really, the two guys from the game yesterday, McClain is fine today and Branch is much improved.
Q: Regarding Asomugha, Zach Miller, John Henderson, do you expect to see these three in Pittsburgh after the bye?
Cable: I think that there’ a chance. But I think we’ll have to really talk about that more next week. But as of today, there’s a very good chance.
Q: Any chance that you’ll have everyone back . . . Schilens, Gradkowski, Asomugha, Zach, John Henderson . . .
Cable: Yeah, we have a shot. We don’t know that yet because some of those things, they’re at the end of the injury or the end of the rehab, so now we’ve got to get them back playing football. And in the terms of Chaz’s case, he’s missed everything thus far. So, to say that he’d be ready to go and all that might be a little premature. But, if we can get him back on the field, then that would put his window at maybe the next game afer that. So we’ll just see. We’ll see what we can get done come Monday.
Q: Did Tyvon Branch have a concussion?
Cable: Yes.
Note: For what it’s worth, and players almost always downplay injuries, Branch seemed fine, said he didn’t have a concussion and that he could have re-entered the game.
Q: How did you come up with, `Just cut loose’ as your catchphrase?
Cable: Just cut it loose means stop worrying about things that are bad or things that can go bad or whatever that is and just have fun with it. That’s really become what this team is best at. That’s kind of their thing. When they really just kind of cut it loose and don’t worry about it and don’t think about whatever’ gone on the past, they’re at their best. And I think that’s what we’re becoming.
Q: How did you come up with the phrase, though, why not just tell them to relax?
Cable: I tried that (laughter). Really, that’s just kind of the way I am and that’s the way I like things and it just kind of fits them, really.
Q: A month ago Tom Cable was going to be fired, now everything is going well and Wade Phillips gets fired. What does it say about this business as a whole?
Cable: I don’t look at all that because you can’t. You have to have your focus on what your team’s doing. I love what I do and I think I do good at it so it’s just a matter of staying the course. There’s going to be a lot of bumps in the road especially to get it turned around, for us to reach our goals there is still going to be more adversity like yesterday that we’re going to have to overcome. There’s going to be more tough times. We found a way to overcome that one. All that other stuff really doesn’t matter to me because thing work out the way they’re supposed to. That’s the way I look at it.
Q: Are you getting a better understanding of Jason, getting him out of rough starts. Threw late over the middle twice, bad first half, then came out of it. Is he a prime example of someone who needs to `cut it loose?’
Cable: He for sure is. One thing I remind him, probably all of our conversations now are, `cut it loose, OK?’ I got you, I’m with you, just cut it loose. Best example you can talk about Jason is high and low and all over the place as we talked about after the game yesterday, but when we got to that two –minute drive to start the last drive to overtime, from there to the end, even though the ball Jacoby made, kind of took an interception away from a guy, wasn’t a great throw, but, the management and being on time and all that, from the rest of the way was the best he was all day. So when his best was needed he was very, very good. But prior to that, there’s a lot of highs and a lot of lows, and you’ve just got to, he’s a perfect example of just kind of stay flat line and just keep cutting it loose, really. Just stop worrying about things.
Q: How basic and fundamentally sound was Ford as a receiver out of college? Did he go to the ball and use his hands in college?
Cable: Yeah, he did. I think you have to remember he was probably overshadowed a little bit by C.J. Spiller. They were a run, run, run, run first team, so his opportunities were probably not as many as the other receivers. But at the same time, there’s a post route there in the first half he should have caught and he’d be the first to tell you that. But in terms of getting him to this level and being able to handle the game at this level and being able to release at this level and go get the football at this level and all those things, I think he’s what we thought he was. The finishing speed, no question, I mean you all saw that on the kickoff return, it was pretty special.
Q: What does Jason need to do to wholeheartedly win your trust?
Cable: He has my trust. I wouldn’t play him. There’s no way, if I didn’t trust Jason I would have played Kyle. It’s a non-issue. I’m not going to put him out there unless I believe in him. Your all getting with where am I going with the quarterback thing, Jason’s our quarterback right now and Bruce isn’t healthy yet, enough to have this conversation, that’s where this is at.
Q: So when you play Pittsburgh, are you wavering at all on who would start?
Cable: I really haven’t wavered, but I do have a belief in me about, you know, when you’re dealing it and you got the hot hand, and things are going in the right direction for your football team, you know, why would you make a change? And that’s where I think right now, but in the back of my mind I also say, ‘It’s not really making a change. He was a starter before I made the change with Bruce and he’s kinda’ come back and done a lot of good things for our team.’ What’s the negative of this? Well I have another problem. I got two good quarterbacks healthy again. That’s the only negative I see about it. I’m probably leaning towards staying with the hot hand. That’s just where I’m at.
Q: So if they’re both healthy, your starter would be Campbell?
Cable: On Monday if you ask me that, I’ll probably give you an answer, but today with Bruce not being healthy enough to do everything that we need him to do, it’s really not a fair question. But Monday, hopefully it will be and I’ll tell you then exactly what we’re going to do.
Q: Want to give us a hint?
Cable: Yeah. [laughter] I just did. You know?
Q: Do you continually update the team on the standings and talk about playoffs, or do you avoid it?
Cable: Nah, because that’s been our goal. That has, and it’s not very realistic yet. It wasn’t very realistic four weeks ago and any of that, but it was our goal and it is our goal. So, what we have done and what’s working for us is–you all make ‘em aware of it, what’s going on and where they’re at. So I don’t have to do that. What I need to do is get this team better fundamentally. To be honest with you, our defense kept us in the game for a half yesterday and we didn’t play very good: offensively or special teams. And so there’s a lot this team can do to get better and that’s what we’ll spend the next couple of days focusing on is getting ourselves fundamentally better.
Q: Has your team turned a corner?
Cable: Well I think we’ve turned the corner on a couple of things. I think that we go after it now and I think that we believe we can win. And I think those are two really big things to accomplish. Now, it’s up to us to continue to do those things that, that got us to this point.
Q: Is this a good time for a bye week?
Cable: You know, it’s funny because we were walking down the hall and Mike and I were talking about it. This is the perfect time for this team to have a bye week, because of how we opened this conversation. We have a chance to be as healthy or get as healthy as we’ve been all year, since we went to camp. So, I think it does come at a good time and I think that we didn’t get much break from preseason to the regular season. So I think this gives us a chance to really kind of recharge our batteries, menatally more than anything, but it’ll be a good break for our team.
Q: What’s this week’s schedule and how do you keep the momentum without them getting rusty when they come back?
Cable: We talked about that. We laid it out to them, exactly what we need to accomplish this week. We’ll work tomorrow and we’ll work Wednesday. We’ll come back in Monday and we’ll get back to work. But we have a goal for tomorrow and Wednesday and we want to accomplish it. We talked about what needs to be done in their time away, and iff they’ve got injuries or issues like that, how to take care of them and the responsibility that comes with that and challenged them all. If you’re going to take a break somewhere, I want you to work out, I want you to lift a little bit, to run a little bit, and I want you to keep your brain right here where we’re at, because that’s the important thing. I think that’s the difference, how you handle it really is the difference whether you have a good bye or not and if you’re rusty or not, as you said.
Q: Is it easier to handle the bye when you’re going well?
Cable: There’s no question. The psychology of the whole thing is the most important thing. Winning some games like we have, they can at least take a step back now, and they’re excited about it and they’re hungry for it, so their mind won’t be too far from it.
Q: Health issues aside, are you worried about the bye interrupting your team’s momentum?
Cable: I don’t because I think it’s part of the NFL season. Everyone’s going to have one, and when we looked at the schedule before we knew that it would be this nine-week run and then there’d be a break and seven weeks to try to make your deal. So we’ve already kind of talked about it, that this was part of the plan and this is where it’s at. We’re just fortunate that we won the last three. I don’t know that it comes at a bad time that way. I don’t. I think our team is on track mentally where it needs to be.
Q: You know your Raider tradition, and one of them is that good Raiders teams commit penalties and win anyway _ you’ve committed 36 penalties in three games and won them all. How do you compartmentalize what’s important and what’s not in terms of penalties?
Cable: That’s one I don’t like. Let’s get real about one thing, there are a number of things on film that we will turn in again. For example, when you get it back that Stevie Brown last week should have been a touchdown. Those things are unacceptable.
Q: The Brown play came back verified as incorrect?
Cable: Yes it did. Those things are unacceptable to me. We go out there to play hard and to play right. There are things from this film that we’ll turn in again. Are we offsides too much? Yes. Do we have to take responsibility for illegal motion or being lined up in the neutral zone defensively? Absolutely. Holding? Absolutely. If your hands are outside, it’s illegal. They’re going to call it. And I’ve got no issue with it. But when someone’s on the ground and the ball’s still in his hands, he’s down. That’s what it is. We have work to do to clean it up. There’s no question. But it’s too many.
Q: Is this the biggest file you’ve turned in to the league for review?
Cable: Yes.
Q: Were all those penalties warranted?
Cable: I don’t know how much I can speak on that.
Q: Give me a number …
Cable: No.
Q: How good can this team be when it gets injured players back?
Cable: Well, I think we can get better. I think, again, that we have to stay on the plan we’re on and what’s working for us. But it is exciting as a coach to know that you’re going to get a tight end back and a cornerback back and defensive tackle that is going to help us where we’re already improving in the run defense area. But I think it will help Tommy and Richard in terms of taking a few snaps off. They’re both playing very well but they’re both playing a lot. John Henderson is a proven run defender. Then it’s exciting to know that you have a possibility of getting Louis Murphy back and perhaps Chaz Schilens. So, yeah, it’s very exciting. But until they’re out there going full-time, we can’t really get too high yet. It’s nice to know that’s just around the corner.
Q: What’s been the difference in Tommy Kelly’s play this year?
Cable: A couple of things. One, he’s in an environment in his room where his coach is real demanding of him, has a great plan for him every week. He’s challenged by the guy playing next to him to be at your best all the time. I think that he got himself in great shape. I think that he’s taken the extra weight off. He’s playing like the Tommy Kelly I met when I first got here in ’07. I thought he was tough to block, and he’s the same guy now. And then, to me, he’s finishing plays. If I could put my hand on one thing, it’s that Tommy Kelly is finishing to the ball all the time. He’s trying to get the quarterback, he’s trying to get the ball carrier when it’s over there, on the boundary, or downfield. I just a tremendous effort by him. He got the defensive game ball, by the way.
Q: When did you see a change in team’s resiliency?
Cable: You all thought I was crazy when we were struggling early in the year, and I just knew that we were that close. Make a kick here, score a touchdown across the Bay, do just a couple of things and it’s a whole different world for us. But we didn’t. And until we were able to do some of those things and get through that and prove to ourselves that we could … Talking about it doesn’t do it, Laying it out there doesn’t do it. You have to do it, and it’s like I said yesterday after the game, it’s another building block. We’ve now put that one to rest. However long it takes, and whatever the circumstances are, we’re going try and fight and grind until the end and try to win. By doing it, we’ve become that.
Q: What’s your anticipation of fans returning to Coliseum in Nov. 28?
Cable: Obviously, it’s high. It was great yesterday. They came out and supported our football team. We played not very good in the first half, but played good for them in the second half and found a way to win the football game. I think the most important thing is the connection is coming back together, and we’ve got to continue to get better and win football games. If we do that, they’ll show up and that’s really how it works.
Q: Who is your backup punter if Lechler can’t go?
Cable: I don’t really know that. Shane will be just fine. It probably would be Sebastian, something like that, because Shane would also be the backup kicker?
Q: What does it do for you when you have all your receivers healthy?
Cable: The most important thing is, what it’s going to do is give us some more packages. It’s going to give us a little bit more speed and size, with Louis and Chaz, assuming they both get back and all that. In terms of a rotation and all that, it’s way premature to go there.
Q: What are some things that jumped out on you from watching the tape?
Cable: Probably just how hard we were playing. You could feel it but you turn on the film and you see offensive linemen really getting after guys, trying to finish blocks. You see Brandon Myers really didn’t miss too much. I love Zach, and he’s a heck of a player, but Brandon really showed himself well. I don’t know that you feel that from the sideline until you get a chance to look at it on tape. The play of our corners. We’re without Nnamdi, and Chris, Jeremy Ware and Stanford Routt probably played as a group as well as they have all year long. So, that’s a great job of stepping up. Things like that, when you to sit back, look at the film, study it, you say, ‘Wow, those guys really came through for us when we needed them to.’ So, it’s things like that.
Q: Nick Miller didn’t think he fumbled the punt, yet took responsibility for not securing it on the kick and then to the ground. Do you like that accountability?
Cable: Yeah, Nick’s right. I don’t think he fumbled the ball, either, but he shouldn’t have muffed it in the first place. When he did, you’ve got to secure it with two hands, get a yard or two back toward their direction, and get down. Period. Don’t make a bad thing worse. He’s exactly right. His accountability, like a lot of guys on this team, is where it needs to be. He’s taking responsibility.
Q: How big of a factor has Cartwright been on special teams?
Cable: He’s been exceptional all year. He’s running the punt team. He’s gone out there and made plays on kickoff coverage team. He’s blocking people on punt return. He made a key block on the kickoff return yesterday. He was the guy who knocked the fumble out. Michael Huff wrapped him up, and he came in and stripped the ball out. So, he’s been very important for us. He’s done it in all four teams and done very well.
Q: Seems like he’s very active with younger players on the sideline, is he almost like an extra coach for John Fassel?
Cable: I mentioned this last week, I can’t remember which one of you asked me about the leadership of our team. Rock’s an example of it. It’s a very prideful thing for him. He takes it as his responsibility on those special teams and goes after it. He’s very good on the sideline and he’s that way in practice too. It’s something we’re all used to and expect that out of him.
Q: Does Huff ask to be on kick coverage?
Cable: Since I’ve been here that’s always been something he’s gotten better at. I remember like two years ago, three years ago in 08 we sat him down. He was our starting safety and sat him down and told him you’re going to go over and learn how to tackle in special teams. He did it and since then he’s never really looked back. I think special teams has helped him become the defensive player he is.
Q: Did you like what saw from Wildcat and will it become regular part of offense?
Cable: I don’t know. It worked yesterday. It was nice.
Q: Will it?
Cable: Not going to tell you that
Q: How big a role has McFadden played in team’s success?
Cable: It’s been really key. Because for one as I mentioned when he’s been healthy he’s makes things happen. He’s been very productive. He’s taken it to another level. You’ve all seen it. He’s on the field a lot, which we need him to be. He’s certainly playing as good as anybody on our football team right now. Without question.
Q: How important was it for you to out-rush Kansas City?
Cable: It wasn’t by enough. That’s the one issue to be real clear how I feel about it. If you take the quarterback scrambles away from them, they would have rushed for 80 yards. So that’s a heck of a day when you hand it off to those running backs. They’re good. I think we’re improving in that area and hopefully we can get John Henderson healthy here and I think that can help us a little bit more even. We’re proud of that fact but the chance was there for us to rush for more yards than we did so not quite good enough.
Q: Did you sense that defense was confident could stop KC run game?
Cable: I think this team is growing in that way. Like we always remind them, there’s a process to doing what we’re doing and we go to work. As long as you go to work you can let your confidence grow and flourish all you want. But if you stop working your confidence just becomes talk and that ain’t working.
Q: Will you be looking for another center as a backup this week or are you comfortable with Veldheer being the backup?
Cable: I think this. (Samson) you know I think is getting over the knee thing. He played pretty good yesterday. I’m not so concerned about that at this point. We’ll kind of get through the week and see where we’re at.
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November 8th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Satele and Carlisle better be on their game against Pittsburgh.
And Gallery needs to stay away from the holding penalties!
Do that and this game shouldn’t be a problem.
November 8th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Raiders coach Tom Cable addresses the quarterback situation and other issues during a press briefing with Bay Area media the day after a 23-20 overtime win over Dallas:
I could have swore we played Kansas City
November 8th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
So, to say that he’d be ready to go and all that might be a little premature. But, if we can get him back on the field, then that would put his window at maybe the next game afer that.
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Chaz out for the Pitt game.
MAYBE Miami at home, but more likely SD.
LMFAO!
November 8th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Chaz who?
November 8th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Oh the San Diego St kid we drafted a few years back, How did his triple bypass turn out?
November 8th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Satele has played against Hampton at least 4 times in his career and held his own what would be different this time. We played the Steelers last year and he held his own. The Steelers are great the LB positions and that all world safety. The rest of that defense is vulnerable if you can deal with those guy’s.
November 8th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
WOW!!!!! just walked in the door 15 min ago!!! what a game !!! what an atmosphere!!! great tailgate!!! 30 yr raider wants to thank all of the bay area for a great weekend!!! all the homies in section 122 row 29 area WE WERE AWESOME!!! BEEN TO MANY GAMES MANY GAMES!!!! MANY RAIDER GAMES IN LOS ANGELES COLLISEUM!!! MANY TROJAN GAMES!!! LIVING HERE IN DALLAS COWBOYGAMES-BOOOOOOO ( I ALWAYS GO FOR THE OTHER TEAM)!!! LAKER GAMES DODGER GAMES!!! BUT NEVER HAVE I SEEN A CROWD SOOOOO DAMMM HYPED FOR OVER 4 HRS LIKE I DID YESTERDAY!!!!WAS AMAZING!! TAILGATED WITH KIRK & UNCLE STAN FROM TAILGATE WARRIORS!!! BEST 20 DOLLARS I EVER SPENT!!! I WILL BE FLYING OUT TO AT LEAST 1 HOME GAME EVERY YR!!!! INCREDIBLE… THANK YOU
November 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, if you called the MNF booth right now and told J Gruden DHB has better hands than TO how long do you think it would take him to stop laughing at you?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Jerry is your IT guy to busy to dial in the daylight savings time?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
They’re slow in their secondary, no way they can cover our speed we’ll rip through that cover2 and bust their weak zones. We just need time to throw now they will split Harrison out wide so the LT cannnot get to him aand bring Timmons that’s why you have to screen them and run at them to slow down that pass rush. I think we can use Reece on them in matchups on Harrison and make him cover deep. Because if yu just let him line up and rush the passer he’ll kill us. Veldheer is 6′8″ he’s 5′11′ there’s no way Veldheer can reach him before he’s by him.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, if you called the MNF booth right now and told J Gruden DHB has better hands than TO how long do you think it would take him to stop laughing at you?
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Not as long as if we told him you said Barry Sanders never ran between the tackles.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, if you called the MNF booth right now and told J Gruden DHB has better hands than TO how long do you think it would take him to stop laughing at you?
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Or that Favre sucks.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
The Steelers’ corners are not very good at all. Ford and Murphy are going to have a big day in Pittsburgh.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
tj, is SeymourOakGlen your mouthpiece?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, if you called the MNF booth right now and told J Gruden DHB has better hands than TO how long do you think it would take him to stop laughing at you?
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Or that Nnamdi is not a very good corner.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, if you called the MNF booth right now and told J Gruden DHB has better hands than TO how long do you think it would take him to stop laughing at you?
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And we would laugh his ass off at how much you love the Browns.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
SeymourGlen you just cant let go the pounding I’ve given you. In fact you comeback under all your aliases and try your best…lol
November 8th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
tj, if you called the MNF booth right now and told J Gruden DHB has better hands than TO how long do you think it would take him to stop laughing at you?
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And even Grudens 8 year old daughter would think your views on climate change are ridiculous.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
You’re not crying and running away as usual are you mista? Don’t worry, you’ll be hoisting up the white flag and leaving any second. You always do.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
tj, we are playing 10 on 11 with DHB out there. Your ok with that because thats your boy, right?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Ask him about how Nnamdi is not very good. Or how Favre is not very good. Or how Rob Ryan sucks even tho he completely befuddled Tom Brady and Bellichik yesterday, or how great his Browns team will be this year, or…….
November 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
tj, didnt you say DMAC is a skinny legged 3rd down back with no moves that goes down to easy and we dont need him?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
tj,
Khalif Barnes has better hands than DHB. Do you need to examine those still photos 1 more time?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Ochocinco-in the 1st half had 1 pass thrown his way and dropped it.He must suck and Cincy should get rid of the non producer.Oh,wait,he is drawing double coverage so the other WRs can be open.Maybe he is doing what they want him to do.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
tj, where is Arman Shields & J Russell? Out of the league right? You have the Midas touch tj, everything you pump up turns to garbage.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
tj, your stooge Lefty is here to throw you softballs you can come out now. C’mon crawl out of your hole son…
November 8th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Huff was originally put on kickoff because he sucks at tackling….anyone else see a flaw in this reasoning?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Mrsarchivetonybrown you should just talk football instead of trying to be such a smart a$$ since smart and you go together like ,oh wait,they don’t go together at all.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
100%-You have to admit Huff’s tackling has improved tremendously as of late.He has been laying some pretty good wood lately.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
mistabufoon has a problem with logic, arithmetic, spelling and let’s be honest, his personal hygiene is beyond reprehensible.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Sistaaabrown eye look for another person to discuss whatever you chose to discuss….everyone whips yo ass to much?
I don’t talk Politics and rhetoric, I hav eno problem with DHB at all. I have no problem DMC doing the do. I love the guy I see now. DMC is in th etop1-2 HB’s in his league he may just be every bit as good as AP. Whom I think is the best. I got nothing but love for DMC…………period
November 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Mike Huff had an excellent game against KC.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Lefty I talked football yesterday. Its a bye week so not much going I’ll talk about what I want.
Dont forget to wash your hands after you give tj that reach around ok?
FYI….I have never logged into this blog under anything other Mistabrown with the exception of “DirtyBrown”. I dont play the alias game, thats garbage!
November 8th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Oh yes definately, now it looks like a great move. Huff has quietly come into his own the last 2 years, I thnk he is must to resign if we can because he is just figuring out how to play his position. But it doesnt exactly sound like they were playing to win at the time haha.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
tj Im not talking politics or “rhetoric” whatever that means but its nice to know your ok with DMAC after you denounced him for 2 1/2years.
You have no problem with DHB because you are the only moron on the earth that likes his game.
tj, when you stop making idiotic comments and quit calling people dumbells & dingalings I’ll stop making a fool out of you, deal?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Huff has been having a good year.Not having Nnamdi really hurt us early yesterday as KC came out and abused Johnson early.Actually the officials abused him,but that is another story.It seems Johnson and Routt,and even Nnamdi at times,aren’t allowed to defend guys.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
I dont have a alcoholic to ebonics to english conversion chart so I’m just going to bypass this…
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priesttj Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Sistaaabrown eye look for another person to discuss whatever you chose to discuss….everyone whips yo ass to much?
November 8th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
And it looks like Jacoby Ford just sent Chokie Lee Higgins onto the waiver wire.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
I dont have a alcoholic to ebonics to english conversion chart so I’m just going to bypass this…
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that’s ok. We all know English isn’t your first language. Gibberish is.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Johnson got abused by a PI call that was complete horse sh!t. The TD on Johnson was arguably not a catach but the WR made a good play.
Johnson is just an avg DB but he filled in for #21 to the point he wasnt missed at all.
Lefty are you blind in 1 eye and can’t see out the other?
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lefty12 Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Huff has been having a good year.Not having Nnamdi really hurt us early yesterday as KC came out and abused Johnson early
November 8th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
If you missed #21 yesterday you probably also missed Justin Fargas and JaMarcus Russell.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
You talked crap to others yesterday like you always do-you can’t help yourself.You posted at least 3 times that we didn’t miss #21 yesterday and it was obvious early we missed him big time.You constantly come here and do nothing but attack other posters for 1 reason and 1 reason only-you are a teabbagging a$$hole.The funny thing is when you do stick to football talk,you make occasional good points.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
What up Raider Nation!
November 8th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
MB, if Nnamdi doesnt play against Pitt, and Mike Wallace runs straight past CJ for a 70 yard TD, are you still going to be here saying #21 wasnt missed? KC obviously thought it was a big deal that he wasnt playing, because they threw more than they have all season. Not a coincidence.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
We get a week to savor the W. Then it’s back to work.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Even the announcers mentioned early yesterday that KC was targeting Johnson because Nnamdi wasn’t playing and early they were successful.I may be blind in 1 eye but I see better with the other than you do with both of yours.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
The Steelers, Chargers, and Colts are going to be hard to beat without Nnamdi. Other than those games I’m not too worried. Hopefully Nnamdi is back soon, although I have a feeling he won’t be back in time for the Pittsburgh game.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Pitt does not have confidence in their line…they just threw out of shotgun 3 straight plays, in Cinci territory, up 13.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
#21 has been getting picked on every week going back to last Thanksgiving when a rookie named Miles Austin made #21 look foolish.
KC targeted CJ early and got nothing but a PI call and a controversial TD. All it takes to fill #21’s shoes is a AVG db named Chris Johnson. After KC didnt get anywhere with CJ they threw to the TE and Bowes side.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
You guys are trying to reason with a PROVEN moron. I might even agree that Nnamdi’s cover skills are probably slightly over rated. But when you run 3 deep coverages or man under, your corners HAVE to be very very good run defenders. Most corners do not like run support. Nnamdi is a very very good run support corner. Something that is very much over looked in his game.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
One of my friends on facebook just posted his video of the final FG, from Mt. Davis. Just the collective yell from the entire section was surreal. Players looked like ants running on the field to celebrate. Just awesome.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Check out this beauty.
http://i53.tinypic.com/347w579.png
November 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Man, there are some serious idiots in here.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
One of my friends on facebook just posted his video of the final FG, from Mt. Davis. Just the collective yell from the entire section was surreal. Players looked like ants running on the field to celebrate. Just awesome.
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Link? I’d love to see that.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Seymour I said several times #21 overrated but he’s a good cover corner. So you just called yourself a moron for echoing me.
lol….dumba$$
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Seymour Bush Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
You guys are trying to reason with a PROVEN moron. I might even agree that Nnamdi’s cover skills are probably slightly over rated.
November 8th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Bengals are garbage…
November 8th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Bungholes are terrible!
That Oline can’t block a simple 4 man rush with 2 LBs?
How about a screen pass to that side OC??!!??
Pathetic!
November 8th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
That Right Tackle from Alabama…Andre Smith looking like a bust……Ocho Cinco is a clown….Carson Palmer is terrible
November 8th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Marvin Lewis or Wade Philips will be in Denver next year as D-Coordinator…..
Marvin might be in Dallas as their D-Coordinator
November 8th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Loved that Gruden commentary….many references to “production”
November 8th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
i had a feeling we were gonna win the game in the fashion of jano nailing the game winner in overtime like the new year resolution game of Jano-ary 1st, 2000 when we knocked the chiefs out of the playoffs to get to 8-8 and thus ignited our subsequent three year playoff run.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Amazing Marvin Lewis still has a job after all the Cincy meltdowns year after year.
I mean, when was the last time that team was any good.
I think I remember reading the owner didn’t want to pay 2 coaches.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Instead of Tyrone Wheatley rumbling into the end zone we had the spectacular play of Jacoby Ford
November 8th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
The Bengals were good last year. They have been a good team more recently than the Broncos, and McDaniels somehow still has a job.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
I think McFadden and Bush can run on the Steelers’ D.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Cable: You all thought I was crazy when we were struggling early in the year, and I just knew that we were that close. Make a kick here, score a touchdown across the Bay, do just a couple of things and it’s a whole different world for us. But we didn’t.
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This is what is hurting me right now. These were winnable games (Cards & Niners) when the schedule was at its easiest.
Raiders should be 7-2. If they miss the playoffs or winning the division by 1 or 2 games, these are the games that will haunt me.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
LOL!
Ocho Cinco got chewed out by an Olineman for crying, got sent to the bench, and Cincy scores with no problem.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Just watched an hour and half special NFL Total Access and not ONE WORD about the Raiders Chiefs.
Not one highlight, NOTHING.
I don’t think we were supposed to win that game and now the powers that be in the gambling community are unhappy.
You know, that and the Cowboys fired Wade.
Still, they extended the show a half hour and no mention of a featured OT game.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Seymour I said several times #21 overrated but he’s a good cover corner.
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Don’t be an imbecile. Show me where you say how good a run support corner 21 is. Yeah, I know. You forgot about that.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
66. I think our D is playing really well. I’ll bet they light up Rothlisberg.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
This has not been a good showing for the Steelers. the Bengals have been awful, and if it werrent for the presents they gave Pitt in the first 5 mins, this would be a 1 score game. Cannot be sloopy agaisnt this team however, you give them an inch they take it a mile
November 8th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
One of my friends on facebook just posted his video of the final FG, from Mt. Davis. Just the collective yell from the entire section was surreal. Players looked like ants running on the field to celebrate. Just awesome.
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Link? I’d love to see that.
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here’s 1
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
One of my friends on facebook just posted his video of the final FG, from Mt. Davis. Just the collective yell from the entire section was surreal. Players looked like ants running on the field to celebrate. Just awesome.
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Link? I’d love to see that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BHmRwtFvgI
November 8th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Look at it this way, we lose to the Steelers, we’re 5-5, and still in it. When’s the last time we could afford to lose a game in late November? At least the Raiders are back to that late ’80s, early ’90s level, of lingering around the .500 mark and being in the fight all season.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Thanks for the video, that was awesome. Wish I could have been there.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Pittsburgh’s offensive coordinator is an idiot.
Run the ball bro and take the clock down
November 8th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
SnB,
Im down 8 points and Im playin Big Ben..he must know I need the points haha
November 8th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Anybody who says we didn’t miss Nnamdi is about as ignorant as it gets.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
See how they hesitated in calling that TD.they were waiting for Triplett to fly in from Oakland and overturn the other official.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Pitt. doesn’t look that impressive tonight.But there is something that really worries me about going to Pitt. for a game-the officiating.We good hosed AT HOME yesterday,imagine what will happen there.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
We got hosed……
November 8th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
That was a horribly officiated game. Absolutely horribly officiated.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
That was a horribly officiated game. Absolutely horribly officiated.
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its 4th down. still 4th down, no wait…. maybe its 4th down… ok its 1st down
November 8th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
I actually think the refs saved us yesterday. The holding call on Veldheer at the end of the game, I think there should have been a 10 second runoff. Next play was the great catch by Ford, and we spiked the ball w/ 7 seconds left. Aside from that, the refs were awful. and i guess thats awful too, because they did not correctly apply the penalty.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Ithink the officials are taking some serious heat about yesterday and they’ll swallow the whistles a bit next week. This past Sunday was terrible all over the league we just got the worst of a real bad day.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
I actually think the refs saved us yesterday. The holding call on Veldheer at the end of the game, I think there should have been a 10 second runoff. Next play was the great catch by Ford, and we spiked the ball w/ 7 seconds left. Aside from that, the refs were awful. and i guess thats awful too, because they did not correctly apply the penalty.
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wow, never thought about that.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Ike Taylr sucks if that ball is trhown coreectly it’s 6
November 8th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
# Raider75 Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
That was a horribly officiated game. Absolutely horribly officiated.
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its 4th down. still 4th down, no wait…. maybe its 4th down… ok its 1st down
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Nick Miller back for return. He’s down. Ball may be loose. No he is down. Rock Cartright emerges with the football. Somehow its Cheats ball.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Now you see why I hate the cover2 it can’t deal with speed.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Seymour Bush is the name of my fantasy football team. lol
November 8th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Bad Newz Kennels is the name of mine, lol
November 8th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
100%-I don’t think that was a 10 sec. run of situation,but I could be wrong.Where is Vegas when you need him?
November 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I thought it was offensive penalties under 30 seconds, but I could be wrong. I have definately seen that rule applied this season, but Im not sure when.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
# Raider75 Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Seymour Bush is the name of my fantasy football team. lol
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Sweet. Hopefully you’re on top in your league.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I love this clip I found on youtube:
Raiders vs the World: #1Feud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnIKKUXjcM&feature=related
gets me pumped and continue that love hate relationship many of us have with Al Davis.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
2010 NFL Executive of the Year: Allen Davis
November 8th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
raider nation,
i am sooo proud of our team. two minutes left down three, no timeouts left and 80 yards away from goal.. the refs had been against us all game and no zach.. campbell made athe plays he had to make, jacoby made the catches he had to make, and the fans made the plays we needed to make…it was awesome!!! aa great game..yesterday a star was born!! raideerrrrrrrrrs
November 8th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I thought it was offensive penalties under 30 seconds, but I could be wrong. I have definately seen that rule applied this season, but Im not sure when.
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I looked it up. Apparently, it has to be a pre-snap penalty for the 10 second rule to go into effect.
So a false start would result in the runoff, but not a penalty during the play.
November 8th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Raider75,
Thank you very much for clarifying. I talked to several Chief fans who were of the opinion they got hosed there. That makes sense, a presnap penalty means you have to be in a legal formation to spike the ball and you cant cut corners hustling up to the ball.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Raider75,
Thank you very much for clarifying. I talked to several Chief fans who were of the opinion they got hosed there. That makes sense, a presnap penalty means you have to be in a legal formation to spike the ball and you cant cut corners hustling up to the ball.
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here is another explanation…in the NFL, the runoff only applies if the clock is actually running. The idea is to prevent a team from taking an intentional penalty to stop the clock. There’s no risk of that with the clock stopped, hence no penalty.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
100%-tell your squaw friends if it wasn’t for the officials trying to give them the game in the 1st place,that call wouldn’t have even happened.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Interesting stat, as of now, McFadden has the most yards per game for any RB. So if he missed 0 games, he’d be the NFL’s leading rusher. does anyone know how many rbs make the pro bowl a year? If its 3, I think Arian Foster, CJ, McFadden (if he stays healthy) make it from the AFC.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Here is something to ponder-who will start-Ford or Murphy?Be realistic and don’t say both and DHB should sit because we all know that isn’t going to happen.Will the starter be Ford or Murphy opposite DHB?
November 8th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
# Raider75 Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Raider75,
Thank you very much for clarifying. I talked to several Chief fans who were of the opinion they got hosed there. That makes sense, a presnap penalty means you have to be in a legal formation to spike the ball and you cant cut corners hustling up to the ball.
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here is another explanation…in the NFL, the runoff only applies if the clock is actually running. The idea is to prevent a team from taking an intentional penalty to stop the clock. There’s no risk of that with the clock stopped, hence no penalty.
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That wasn’t a penalty that necessitated a 10 second run off. What I found interesting tho, was the completion for the lst down, and then the Raiders spiked the ball, and they reviewed the prior play. There were no whistles, no official running to stop the spike. The play ran and then they reviewed the play that was run two plays before. I have only seen that happen three times. They were all Raider games.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
That is what I said. But that did linger in my mind a little bit. I told them they have no excuses regardless b/c our most consistent player on offense and defense werent playing.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
So many on here (during the 4th quarter) were already putting us at 4-5. Stuff was being said like “well, I guess we can’t play with the big boys after all”. Or “game over there goes the season” and many other things. I for one sure as heck was not very positive after we punted with just a few minutes left. Somebody said it just “felt” like it was gonna be a loss and it just seems like the type of game we would lose. How many times in the past have we lost a tough game like this AT HOME to the Chiefs?
They found a way to end yet another streak and go 3-0 in the west. Sweet!
November 8th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
4th quarter!It started in the 1st quarter.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Not gunna lie, I was pretty down in the 2nd quarter. But when that pick happened, i knew it was the momentum shift we needed because we have been a 2nd half team when we needed to be. When Fords TD happened and the fumble happened, I knew they were going to find a way. But I was as down on them as anybody after Campbells INT. Just goes to show, once again, that Cables focus on character guys and the team concept has been a huge part of the turnaround. I think Seymours intangibles alone might have been worth a 3rd rounder to Cable and this team.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
So many on here (during the 4th quarter) were already putting us at 4-5. Stuff was being said like “well, I guess we can’t play with the big boys after all”. Or “game over there goes the season” and many other things. I for one sure as heck was not very positive after we punted with just a few minutes left. Somebody said it just “felt” like it was gonna be a loss and it just seems like the type of game we would lose. How many times in the past have we lost a tough game like this AT HOME to the Chiefs?
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I felt the exact opposite. This team is starting to feel like the 1971-74 Raider teams where they make a BIG play right when a big play is needed. The turnovers in the beginning of the Denver game, the weird bounces in the Seattle game, yesterday the INT in the endzone at the end of the lst half, followed by the kickoff return to start the 2nd half! All big big big plays at the EXACT right times!
November 8th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
# 100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
That is what I said. But that did linger in my mind a little bit. I told them they have no excuses regardless b/c our most consistent player on offense and defense werent playing.
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Kansas Shi**y has no excuse. The refs were HANDING them that game. Until Jacoby Ford ripped the ball from their safety and ripped out their hearts in the process with 8 seconds to go in regulation. They folded up like a cheap card table after that.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Yeah, I took great joy when a friend of mine told me his brother in law (who is a HUGE KC fan) was throwing stuff around the house and was “so pi$$ed off” at KC losing that he was inconsolable. The KC fan was mad at the Chiefs for “blowing it”.
Some of my worst memories are of last second Chief wins against us. The Larry Johnson last second “shove it down our throats” TD (under Vermeil regime in reg. season game at KC) AND ONE OF MY ALL TIME WORST memories was that last second Elvis Grbac to Andre Rison at home on MNF over Terry McDaniel under the Bugle regime. I literally kicked a coffee table and broke it after that play and it took a long time to get over.
If anybody thinks for a second I would EVER feel sorry for the Chiefs they are nuts.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Q: Is this the biggest file you’ve turned in to the league for review?
Cable: Yes.
Q: Were all those penalties warranted?
Cable: I don’t know how much I can speak on that.
Q: Give me a number …
Cable: No.
Mr Davis has to LOVE this as do I
November 8th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
What I saw from Pittsburgh today encouraged me. They took the gifts the bengals gave them and did just enough to win. They let up after that trick play, or their defense wore down. Their playcalling seemed pretty suspect. And the bengals had some success running, but they were too far behind in the game to continue. Benson isnt really a pass catcher in the backfield so they couldnt take advantage of screens and swings like we will be able to when they blitz.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Wheres Bauce???
Met up with Brien at the game Sunday. Good times!
November 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I got to give it up. I was one that couldn’t believe either Cable or Campbell would be capable of pulling a comeback game like yesterday or win more than 3 or 4 games.
Even after making so many mistakes and stupid penalties, here are the Raiders just cutting it loose with 5 wins.
I guess that’s the best way to handle this season. All hell break loose…
After all, this is the same bunch that a month ago couldn’t block or protect the qb. This is the same DMaC that during the off season was being called a bust, a defensive backfield that was getting torched constantly, Tommie Kelly was overpaid, and not a single wide receiver could catch and make plays when they counted, and everyone in the nation under the guidance of a senile old man, which needed to just disappear.
Better be careful though, don’t rush into foolishness, what if they don’t win another game and finish like last year at 5-11? Is everybody going to start the let’s get rid of Al song again? Let’s hope not.
The Steelers are a tough team, got to also play real smart to beat them. Cutting it loose is fine but got to be smarter from now on if they want the prize.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
WE ARE DONE!!!
If we keep playing like this. So many opportunities flushed down the toilet.
We will never make the playoffs this year unless something changes in a big way.
We have Bowe dropping important passes, Cassel being Cassel,Special teams Fail,
Flowers letting some no name receiver have a career day(Literally a highlight film),etc.
The Raiders were banged up, missing their best players, and straight whupped us.
This Sucks
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Funny post from a frurated Chiefs fan.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Debo that put a smile on my face. Where do you go to find these posts? Does KC have a blog full of crazies like we do?
November 8th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
WE ARE DONE!!!
If we keep playing like this. So many opportunities flushed down the toilet.
We will never make the playoffs this year unless something changes in a big way.
We have Bowe dropping important passes, Cassel being Cassel,Special teams Fail,
Flowers letting some no name receiver have a career day(Literally a highlight film),etc.
The Raiders were banged up, missing their best players, and straight whupped us.
This Sucks
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Funny post from a frurated Chiefs fan.
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Keerist! That sounds like RMR last weak! LMFAO!!
November 8th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
arg meant a few weeks ago!
November 8th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
[...] you can’t. You have to have your focus on what your team’s doing,” Cable said, per the Oakland Tribune. “I love what I do and I think I do good at it so it’s just a matter of staying the course. [...]
November 8th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Drexl Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Wheres Bauce???
Met up with Brien at the game Sunday. Good times!
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I doubt it.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
carson palmer so often was calling protection audibles, changing which side to run too based on bites he saw coming. Are either of our quarterbacks able to do the same thing? drew brees was doing similar stuff last week.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
From what I saw, Carson Palmer also makes throws like a rookie and looked pretty bad except for a couple of good throws to Owens
November 8th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Blitzes, not bites. Dang voice auto-text.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
So there’s a guy on the Warriors named “Montra” Ellis? “Montra”??? Didn’t Godzilla fight him in a movie?
November 8th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
102.lefty12 Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Here is something to ponder-who will start-Ford or Murphy?Be realistic and don’t say both and DHB should sit because we all know that isn’t going to happen.Will the starter be Ford or Murphy opposite DHB?
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Murphy will be the starter. The vision is DHB, Murphy, Miller…..Ford is your 3rd receiver now though
November 8th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Dick Lebau vs Hue Jackson………Lebau wins.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
campbell cant call audibles but grads can…
November 8th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
They’re gonna have a helluva time blocking and lining up against that Steeler Defense, with free-wheeling Polamahu and James Harrison.
Campbell will blow all the timeouts in the first qtr.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Lol kell. maybe the first drive. and tell me there’s not something funny picturing dhb trying to catch the ball with troy smashing down on him.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
You guys are really pretty amazing with your negativity sometimes. We went into Pitt last year with freakin Cable calling the plays and we won. LeBeau was coaching that game too.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Dick Lebau vs Hue Jackson………Lebau wins.
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KK full of the cheer.
I’ll call your lie, and say he doesn’t, you old koot!!
November 8th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Yeah……but they didn’t have Polamahu then.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I would say the only position Cinci is better on offense than us is WR, and they put up 21 today.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
KK how about that Al Davis built 2010 Raider team ripping up the AFC West.
Did you go to the game?
Pissing rain people going crazy, Raiduuuus, getting off BART. Nothing but back slapping and laughs stuck in the deepest BART bridge crowd I have seen in over a year.
Good times you old koot, to bad your sad Al Davis hating a$$ was no where to be seen.
Don’t even talk anymore, just log off you fail.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I would say the only position Cinci is better on offense than us is WR, and they put up 21 today.
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Cinci is in their division.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
And we have 2 weeks to prepare. And they play NE on Sunday night, that game helps decide HF advantage. They are gunna throw everything at Brady.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I would say the only position Cinci is better on offense than us is WR, and they put up 21 today.
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Yeah, those WR’s are waaay better than ours, too.
Goodnite Gentlemen.
November 8th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
We play Cinncy we destroy them you old koot.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:00 am
100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Debo that put a smile on my face. Where do you go to find these posts? Does KC have a blog full of crazies like we do?
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Read a game recap in the KC Star and read some of the posts. Cracks me up to hear KC fans’ perspective. Seems they all think the Chiefs gave the game away and were just lucky.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:05 am
139.RaiderDebo Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 12:00 am
100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Debo that put a smile on my face. Where do you go to find these posts? Does KC have a blog full of crazies like we do?
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Read a game recap in the KC Star and read some of the posts. Cracks me up to hear KC fans’ perspective. Seems they all think the Chiefs gave the game away and were just lucky.
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I remember reading some Denver blogs and newspapers after that beatdown was pretty awesome. KC fans seemed to have gotten waaaaayy to excited over there 5-2 start. They beat SD, Cleveland, Jax, Niners and Bills. Not exactly the NFL elite. And all the sudden they think they are a dynasty that should beat us to a pulp at our place. We have split the series last 3 years. Always scrappy games like this. The only time they truly outmatched a team was Jax, and they had Todd Bouman at QB.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:05 am
100, I have little confidence in Campbell vs blazing defenses. he couldn’t handle the 49ers or the titans or the rams. The titans in particular were the most steeler like defense and you know how he looked there. I hope he does well I just haven’t seen anything from him to show me that he can handle that kind of a d
November 9th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Whenever anyone makes derogatory comments about the Stealers,KK gets upset.Whenever we win,KK gets upset.Very interesting.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:08 am
[...] “I really haven’t wavered, but I do have a belief in me about, you know, when you’re dealing it and you got the hot hand, and things are going in the right direction for your football team, you know, why would you make a change?” the coach said in his Monday press conference (via Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune). [...]
November 9th, 2010 at 12:11 am
The Tenn game and this game will be much different. Mario at LT. Very different scheme wise. KCs defense is more similar to Pitt’s. Difference between Bengals and us will be ability to run. That helps against the blitz, and we have a better tight end to dump off to. Also our RBs and Reece are better recievers, JC is a master at the screens and dumpoffs. This should be another game where our recievers have 3 or 4 catches, and we throw to Reece Miller and Dmac all day.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Our Oline wasn’t as good against any of those teams as they are now.Veldheer has made a huge difference.He’ll make a rookie mistake once and a while but he is so much better than Henderson overall.That hold at the end of the game was a veteran move.It was bad,but if he hadn’t held the guy our QB would have gotten blindsided and could have very easily fumbled.Better to take that 10 yd holding penalty than get your QB killed.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:16 am
lefty i definately agree. When Veldheer messes up, most of the time you can look at it and say “he neveer had to deal with that at hillsdale” but the thing about a kid coming from a small d2 school like hillsdale is, hes smart. you dont go to a school like that just b/c you are a football player. He takes his lessons and learns them. he has a bright future for sure.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:17 am
RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UGLY! BUT JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2010 at 12:19 am
100PercentRaider Says:
November 8th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
You guys are really pretty amazing with your negativity sometimes. We went into Pitt last year with freakin Cable calling the plays and we won. LeBeau was coaching that game too.
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Wasn’t Polamalu injured last year and didn’t play against the Raiders; or did he play injured and wasn’t a factor?
November 9th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Yeah he was hurt.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:29 am
A TD or 2 to KBarnes inside the 10 against the Steelers would be nice.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:31 am
More Tds by the end of the season, Barnes or DHB?
November 9th, 2010 at 12:34 am
In theory JC should be the ideal QB agaisnt the Steelers. He takes minimal risks, is quick to dump the ball off if he feels pressure and is reasonably mobile.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Tonight’s game Jaws was about to eat his mic talking about Cutler holding the ball to long vs the pass rush.
Soup has the check down, throw the ball away routine down.
No worries,
November 9th, 2010 at 12:40 am
3 straight games allowing 20 points by the Steelers. Not exactly the dominant defense they were at the beginning of the season.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:42 am
100%-good point.The Stealers just wait for teams to make mistakes then capitalize on them.If we don’t make those mistakes they will have a difficult time scoring on us.Their Oline isn’t that great and they are also injured.And,while Polamula didn’t play last year,our def. is also much better than last year.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Flozel got a 15 yard personal for trying to hit someone with a punch but he missed. Same old dude. LMFAO!
November 9th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Fascinating quote from Tommy Kelly: “We needed some more people,” Kelly said, referring to the drastic roster turnover in the past 16 months. “The old man falls in love with some people and didn’t want to let them go.”
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Good grief, a truth telling subversive on the team…lol!
November 9th, 2010 at 12:48 am
I really thought their playcalling was strange. They would run the ball 5 straight plays, then go 4 wide and throw 3 straight incompletions. Needed every one of those free points they got at the beginning against a bad team. The NFLs “elite teams” , NE, Pitt and Jets, were all brought back to the pack this weekend IMO. Giants might be the best team in football right now
November 9th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Another thing the Stealer like to do is intimidate with their attitude.I think we now have players who won’t be intimidated by their tough guy attitude-our guys are just as ornery and won’t back down.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Later gents!
On a flight to Kauai early tomorrow morning. Figured what better way to spend the bye week!
You kNow it!
November 9th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Guy’s the Steelers are not Gods they proved that tonight doesn’t mean we’ll win but we’ve beaten them 3 out of 4 times why the great concern? I respect their team and their accomplishments but I think we’re a better team overall. Thye have some superstars which give rise to immediate concerns. You cannot fool Troy and Ben is a tough sack but if we can stop their run and get to Big fat Ben we’ll see that they are very beatable.
When we are on offese they will come off the bus backpedalling. Our speed is phenomenal they cannot cover it DMC in openfield is a nightmare a freakin nightmare. They cannot deal with that. Now finally Zack Miller will occupy Polamalu if he doesn’t ZM will have a fieldday. Point blank we possess tooo much speed. I inumerated this during the offseason when talking about DHB but bring Ford to the table in recent weeks and it’s over they will never stack the box vs this team no one will.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Drexl-i loved the play at the goal line when the Bungles scored their last TD and their FB just laid out Polamula-put him right on his back.It was a great block.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Priest I agree about the bltizing. Will be interesting to see what Pitt does against us b/c they are stubborn about blitzing but wow we can burn you from anywhere they get DMC or Reece on a screen, or Miller in the seam. I think Miller is very underrated after the catch as tight ends go, he always takes a few guys to bring down
November 9th, 2010 at 12:57 am
100% they have to blitz us because they cannot cover us they’r eonly chance is to get to JC before he throws it. All we have to do is get it off to DMC , Reece. Bush and whoevr we put in the slot if they cannot tackle him it’s off to the races. Timmons is very fast similar to T Howard but you just cannot cover all that speed it’s impossible.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:00 am
Sorry,I disagree.They will blitz and blitz and then blitz some more-that is who they are.We have to make them pay,which we should be able to do.We should be able to run on them and McFadden should have a big day.Once he is thru the 1st wave he will present trouble.JC must read which CBs are coming and make them pay.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:00 am
The Raiders have run the end around with Ford 2 or 3 times this season. Now that he has had a breakout game, I would love to see an end around play action and a throw up top to DHB. we have set it up perfectly by running the end around several times, mostly w/o DHB getting the ball.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Mistic1 Says:
The o-line was full of holes on way too many pass downs, campmbell was running for his life. We were lucky that Campbell is so slippery in the pocket, he held the chiefs to four sacks. There would have been many more if he wasnt such a good qb with his feet. not to mention all the plays he made throwing down field, on the run.
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LOL. The coach says the QB left a lot of plays on the field and Mistic acts like Campbell was the MVP and put out a Legendary performance (his own words, see his posts in the last thread).
Dam Mistic, pull your head out from under JCamp’s sack. You need therapy, old man.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:02 am
In the old days they tried the same thing against us with Branch they were terrified of Branch. Then they had the steelcurtain but n one inn their secndary could stay with Branch. Now we have 4 guy’s equally as fast it’s a freakin nightmare. WE beat KC with our 5th WR not 3rd not 4th 5th. Does that tell ya’ how dangerous this team is?
November 9th, 2010 at 1:06 am
Ford swung his steel nuts all up in the faces of the Chiefs yesterday. Man status!
NEWS – Mistic is a big time JC homer. Everyone knows Ford won that game for us.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:09 am
Good to see Cable talk about the poor calls. I even talked with Chiefs fans that admitted the refs tried to give that game to them. Pathetic! Terrible calls!
November 9th, 2010 at 1:12 am
I can’t stand Triplett’s crew!
November 9th, 2010 at 1:13 am
Yeah it was awful. That PI on CJ, man if thats a penalty, I dont know how you play defense. Kelly had 2 “illegal hands to the face” calls. that usually happens once or twice a season for a d lineman! some of those offsides, i see dbs and lbs with their helmet way more offsides than that and it doesnt get called. they even blew a call for us, called holding on a pass to myers that was perfect coverage. Chiefs got ten points early cuz of refs and Cable’s fake punt. We cant give the Steelers ten points, look what happened to the Bengals.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Our offense is as dangerous as our QB will let us be,whichever one it is.When JC just cuts it loose as Cable says,he is much better.Wish he would come out of the gate that way instead of having to be reminded to just let er’ rip.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:16 am
There was also a bad no call. Can’t remember if it was Higgins or Ford but it was a pass where JC threw behind the receiver and he tried to come back for it but was impeded by the CB who wasn’t even looking back for the ball. No call.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:18 am
Lefty – We’re clearly best when the D is dominating and the O-line is opening up holes for DMAC. We really don’t have QBs that can put games on their shoulders IMO.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:20 am
100%-if it wasn’t for the terrible PI against Johnson the fake punt would have been forgotten because our defense would have held them and they wouldn’t have gotten that gift TD.Those plays are great when they work and everyone always says what a great call they were,but when they don’t work everyone complains that it was a stupid call.Personally,I like to see them called every once in a while-helps keep the opponents honest.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:22 am
I agree that they should be tried, but the announcers said it best- they should be tried in plus territory, in short distance. not 4th and 7 from your own 40
November 9th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Agreed,we don’t have that QB, but this is the NFL and you have to pass the ball.You can’t win by just running it,especially against a team like KC who plays the run very well.We may not have super star QBs,but we do have capable ones.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:26 am
Number One on espn’s top plays…jacoby ford.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:27 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Agreed,we don’t have that QB, but this is the NFL and you have to pass the ball.You can’t win by just running it,especially against a team like KC who plays the run very well.We may not have super star QBs,but we do have capable ones.
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Yes sir. And that, my friend, is why we have such trouble against teams that stop our run game. It’s the blue print to beating our offense. Force us to pass because, quite frankly, the QB isn’t that good. I wish JC would establish better timing and get that ball out. Until the QB position improves, we will struggle against any team stout against the run.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:29 am
Trying the fake where we did shows the confidence our coaches have in our defense,which IMO should bolster their confidence even more knowing the coaches fell that way.Even so,without the bogus PI it probably wouldn’t have made any difference.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:29 am
100PercentRaider Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 1:26 am
Number One on espn’s top plays…jacoby ford.
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I know it’s just one game but he was absolutely MONEY! For a rookie to deliver like that in such a pressure situation when we needed it most, takes a solid pair.
I think I need me a Ford jersey. Baller!
November 9th, 2010 at 1:34 am
TSR,it makes me laugh when guys come on here and say just run,run,run.It’s like when they say blitz,blitz,blitz.You can’t be a one horse pony in this league to be successful.You must be able to mix things up.To me it doesn’t matter-JC or BG-as long as they execute well enough to win.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:39 am
Lefty12 they do execute enough to win these guy’s are off. We just did it. When they had to throw at the most difficult time to do so we did. So to say we don’t have the QB’s to do that isn’t accurate it’s on film both QB’s have done it. LOL
November 9th, 2010 at 1:46 am
Lefty – I agree, man. Some fans just think it’s so easy.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:48 am
Not to mention we have the WR’s as well like last year vs the Steelers and Bengals. This year SD of and KC.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:50 am
One of the problems I see with many on here is they expect perfection and it won’t happen no matter who the QB is.But the thing that bothers me even more is many of those that support one of our guys hates the other one.Some root against the one they don’t want.They don’t realize that by hoping the one who is playing fails,they are in essence hoping the team fails so they can come here and say I told you so.
November 9th, 2010 at 1:56 am
Priest,we have the capability to be one of the most explosive offenses in the league.Our Oline is better than avg.,we have fast young WRs,and we have a dynamic RB duo with one of the best in the game in McFadden.The key is the QB play.When our QBs have good games we can score on anybody.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:02 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 1:50 am
One of the problems I see with many on here is they expect perfection and it won’t happen no matter who the QB is.But the thing that bothers me even more is many of those that support one of our guys hates the other one.Some root against the one they don’t want.They don’t realize that by hoping the one who is playing fails,they are in essence hoping the team fails so they can come here and say I told you so.
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Precisely. You see this from Mistic and Debo. They have names for Grads like Scabs and Bruise. Totally uncalled for. This is a guy on our team fighting to help the team win and they’re dogging the guy?
Then when the Grads backers (admittedly, I’m one of them) comes in here to give JC props for playing well, they jump all over it saying things like “JC kicked your azz!” Whatever. They make it into some kink of battle of who’s right. When I criticize someone, it’s based on what I see on the field. Not some personal vendetta. I actually like Jason. Seems like a hard worker and a humble guy. Just hope he improves his timing and accuracy with the receivers. He has the short pass down pat.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:05 am
Anyway,hopefully Z.Miller will be full go against the Stealers,we missed him yesterday.You can tell Campbell is more comfortable throwing to certain guys and Zack is one of those guys.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:12 am
TSR both QB’s need to improve in osme of the same areas neither is really proficient at running the offense one is better at some things and the other is better at other things. I still think JC has a long way to go to get better. Hopefully we will get one of them for the rest of the year so he can get better at whatever weakness he has. The only thing I don’t like is the musical chairs at QB we’ll never get to where we need to be doing that. What I mean is when we get to the playoffs we need a very confident and proficient QB or it will show. And it could mean the difference between winning and losing.
Every team needs it’s starter and it’s backup and right now we don’t know who that is. Not good IMO.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:14 am
TSR,I just don’t get the part of calling a player on the team you supposedly root for names-unless they have earned it-ie. the bust.The thing is both Grads. and JC have both won games,played hard,and put in the time and effort.If you prefer one over the other fine,but why so much hate on the other.It makes no sense.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:18 am
It makes no sense at all that QB you hate may be the one that gets us the biggest prize. It shows a lack of understanding what’s at stake. Not our egos it’s about the team winning anything else is just mess.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:22 am
Priest,we do know who the starter is,its JC.He has earned it with the winning streak.Now it is his job to prove he deserves it and keep it.You know I’m a BG guy,but that is the way I see it.We are lucky in the fact that if he can’t keep it and shows he doesn’t deserve it we have someone capable of stepping in and taking over.I must admit I’d like to see what BG could do with the improved Oline and the way the WRs are coming of age,but as of now it is JCs job to lose.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:29 am
Well we’ll see Lefty12 Cable seems to ambiguous about it to me. But whatever and whoever Campbell or Grads I want to see them develope into a legitimate starter. Campbell looks the part at times but there were times I wanted to just slap the crap outta him. And tell him listen you’re QB of the Oakland Raiders now go out there and ACT like it. Stop acting like smeones coming after you to tell you to sit down. Either seize the job or get the hell outta the way so someone who really wants it can.
It’s not that he doesn’t have the tools but I want him to use them for the good of the team.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:29 am
And I hope he plays lights out.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:30 am
Priesttj Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 2:12 am
TSR both QB’s need to improve in osme of the same areas neither is really proficient at running the offense one is better at some things and the other is better at other things. I still think JC has a long way to go to get better
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I agree.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:33 am
Watching Cocaine Cowboys: Hustlin with the Godmother on Showtime right now. I’m now convinced everyone in Oakland sells dope. Brien, Al Davis, Amy Trask, everyone.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:34 am
Damn man I hope so to. It’s getting to nutcutting time we can’t keep screwing with that position.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:37 am
Cable came out and said you can’t sit a guy when he has a hot hand.When someone asked him if he could give them a hint as to who would start he said “I just did”.The question is how long of a rope does he have.Against the whiners he sucked the whole game.Yesterday he was a different guy in the 2nd half.Can we count on that every time?He needs to show more consistency.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:41 am
Well its late,nite all.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:46 am
THat’s putting it mildly Lefty12 he needss to shw a lot more consistency. He seems to have it in him but he doesn’t know it. It’s like he’s saying OK coach said I can do this so I’ll try. Instead he should be saying GREAT he’s going to let me play the way I know I can so let’s go get ‘em.
But I don’t see that I see a guy struggling to just go play. It’s like someone told him don’t take any chances with the football. We can win if you don’t but at this level that crap doesn’t cut it. Youj have to LEAD and the only way to lead is to show no fear and attack. THen attack again and again with skill and playmaking ability. He has it in him but it’s really struggling tp come out. His last two passes to Ford were the only two passes where I saw him go for it. He has to understand that’s how he has to play every down.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:48 am
Me to Left ADios!!
November 9th, 2010 at 3:43 am
Kudos to Hue Joackson for dialing up the Al Davis inspired long ball to Ford in the first place.
Ballsy and oh so old school Raider.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:10 am
KC was at full strength except for McCluster but Istill think they were kind of on the decline like Denver after their red hot start last year.
Still, alot was made about the Raiders being ranked 26th against the run coming in and KC being #2 in rushing.
Fact is our D, WITHOUT Nnamdi OR McClain kicked the Chiefs a**.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:40 am
[...] Raiders head coach said there’s a “very good chance” Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller and John Henderson will all be back in time for the Steelers [...]
November 9th, 2010 at 4:42 am
This writers obviously not a Raider fan.
It was all KC’s fault they lost not us kicking their bu-tz.
Riiiight…
“Simple math says the Kansas City Chiefs misused Jamaal Charles(notes) in a 23-20 overtime loss to Oakland that cost them an opportunity to seize control of the AFC West.”
This joke of a writer obviously didn’t even bother to see the game. If he had he’d have known Oaklands run D kept KC to constant 3 and outs in the first half, limiting their offensive plays.
With 11:54 left in the 3rd quarter Charles had his longest run of the day, a 13 yarder to the Raider 7 where he suffered a crushing tackle by S Miachel Huff that took him out of the game.
Charles wasn’t the same after.
Nice theory though Doug Tucker AP Sports writer.
I’ll bet Jerry remembers what it was like when news writers actually had to know what they were talking about.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-mistakenchiefs
Face it KC.
We kicked yo’ a**es.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:45 am
206. Sports Journey, your blurb offered nothing that wasn’t recycled common knowledge.
JUNK.
November 9th, 2010 at 5:38 am
Right now that 2011 1st-round pick for Seymour is looking like sheer genious by uncle al,hes 1 of our main leaders in that lockerroom,and his play has been almost dominant. I’ll say that the talented cowgirls are in short supply of leaders like Seymour,and that is a major issue for them. “Like having a Jaguar or Lexus without an engine”. Hopefully those leadership qualities will continue to help us through the rest of the season.
November 9th, 2010 at 5:57 am
I hope nobody here falls for the “steeltuurds are a much better team then the Raiders and they have dicklabow.”
Remember its not what they have.
Its what the Oakland F N Raiders have.
They have not seen a team as fast as us all year, heck probaly not for many years, maybe not ever.
Bottom line, They are not a pimple on the Raiders butt
RAIDERS – 51
IRON CITY NEANDERTHALS – 17
off to work, have fun
November 9th, 2010 at 6:29 am
RAIDERS – 51
IRON CITY NEANDERTHALS – 17
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Plunketthead, are you high?
November 9th, 2010 at 6:50 am
I’m not going to say that “mis-used” Charles or anything like that.
But I will say I was very suprised that on the Chiefs drive in OT, that they picked up 6 yards on a simple 1st down run, and than throw the ball twice in a row and punted.
If Hue Jackson were to have done something like that, I would have been furious!!
November 9th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Pittsburg game doesnt seem nearly as impossible to win as it did a month ago. The bengals took em right to the wire and Benson (who cant carry McFaddens jock) had a good day running the ball, unfortunately special teams dug Cincy a hole early that they had to throw their way out of. I think if we play our game, attack them at the line of scrimmage and run hard all day we can win that game.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:02 am
What up NATION???????
November 9th, 2010 at 7:02 am
This game was billed up in the pregame show to be 4 names: It was McFadden/Bush vs Jones/Charles.
Tale of the tape: McFadden/Bush = 22/106 = 4.82 ypc
Tale of the tape: Jones/Charles = 29/85 = 2.93 ypc
This game was the #1 rushing offense vs the #2 rushing offense. A lot of Squaws were running their mouths about how their run defense had held every feature RB to less than 100 yards. They did do that. But they were also talking smack about running it down our horrible run defense.
Who is talking smack anymore? Raiders win on both sides of this contest.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:05 am
I am not so sure charles would have been effective in OT. He was getting hammered as i recall. He even sat out some plays of a couple of diffrent occasions due to injuries…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:07 am
charles was made a non factor becuase our hard hitting D made him a non factor….
November 9th, 2010 at 7:07 am
The Chiefs undoing is they have a lousy QB and not enough playmaking WR’s. Once we roughed up thier RB’s. Those punishing 3 and outs took their toll….Once we got them to pass, we had the advantage. If it was Peyton Manning out there, I’d be worried. But Cassel is a below avg NFL quality starter.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:07 am
good morning AM crew!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Watching Cocaine Cowboys: Hustlin with the Godmother on Showtime right now. I’m now convinced everyone in Oakland sells dope. Brien, Al Davis, Amy Trask, everyone.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA…..
November 9th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Thec07 Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:07 am
charles was made a non factor becuase our hard hitting D made him a non factor….
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Charles is a little guy that was getting squarely hit and knocked to the turf. He doesn’t like to take physical punishment. Every successful Charles run is to the outside and he likes to run out of bounds. He can’t get going against tough physical play. The Raider D broke his will.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:09 am
I dont think they could have held Dmac under 100 if we ran the ball more. 22 carries? Dmac was really starting to find his rythm there too, but we unfortunately had to abandon the run late and throw the ball. The squaws also touted how only Houston had scored more than 20… haha fvckos… we scored 23!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Good Morning Rockstar!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:11 am
pittsburg, I have no doubts that we cant beat them…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:12 am
I want to give the Chiefs some credit, but if not for the refs, we win this game going away. And you would have seen DMC go for his usual 100+ yards.
That was unfortunate, but KC will continue to brag about holding every feature RB they have faced to less than 100 yards.
But stats lie.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Hell Bush’s first carry was an 18 yarder that was called back.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:13 am
The Raider D broke his will.
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Truth…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:13 am
RMR Says:
Watching Cocaine Cowboys: Hustlin with the Godmother on Showtime right now. I’m now convinced everyone in Oakland sells dope. Brien, Al Davis, Amy Trask, everyone.
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Hahaha. The craziest part was how the Columbian Cocaine Godmother and the dude from East Oakland(Brookfield) were involved in that plot to kidnap JFK Jr. and hold him for ransom.
That was crazy!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:13 am
What up Rock?
November 9th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Cassel is a below avg NFL quality starter.
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I don’t know that I would go THAT far.
He’s in this club right now
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez, Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Chad Henne, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Matt Hasselbeck, Derek Anderson
November 9th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Truthfully…that game should have not gone into OT, but I will take it for the excitement factor…
The Chefs fans can talk all they want because yes, if we did not have to abandon the run…DMac would have easily gotten 100+
November 9th, 2010 at 7:15 am
FUNNY THING JIMBO,READING SOME OF THE K.C. BLOG YESTERDAY,THEY THINK THEY WERE THE ONE’S RIPPED BY THE REF’S.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Where would this team be without the class of 2010?
Take away Veldheer, take away Houston, take away RoMAC, take away S Brown, take away Ware, and take away Ford….take away free agent FB Reese….
at least 3 wins less than they are today.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:17 am
That was unfortunate, but KC will continue to brag about holding every feature RB they have faced to less than 100 yards.
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We were a couple of plays from blowing them out…In fact the zebras in the first half, who I beleive were on the take that gam kept them in it with the lousy officiating…Trippett and his crew need to be investigated…
As for the stats, they can have the we kept him under 100 yards…what they need to look at is YPC….
That, and how DMAC was trucking LB’s and S’s…..
November 9th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr, Dirtlot, Thec
November 9th, 2010 at 7:18 am
7-2… I beat Dakota. Not sure how… lol
November 9th, 2010 at 7:18 am
What up Jimbo?
November 9th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Cassel threw 1 INT and it wasn’t a poorly thrown ball. Mitch just barely got a fingertip on it and it popped up for Ware to catch in the endzone.
The Chefs lost because the Raiders punched them in the mouth. we battered them on both lines of scrimmage
CJ37 & Routt played great in the second half besides that 1 miscommunication between Routt & Mitch.
Jacoby Ford made their secondary look like the Houston Texans
November 9th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Hwnrdr, how you doing?
November 9th, 2010 at 7:19 am
I agree about the refs. I think there was something fishy going on. A lot of people were banking on a KC win.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Dirtlot, whats good Bro?
November 9th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Gene Steratore was the referee. Was Triplett even there? This is the same ref that put the screw job on the Dolphins against pit a few weeks ago.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:21 am
For the NATION to get what we deserve we need to obliterate the teams they say we should not beat….
I do not see a team on our remaining schedule that we cannot beat….NOT ONE….
November 9th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Where would this team be without the class of 2010?
Take away Veldheer, take away Houston, take away RoMAC, take away S Brown, take away Ware, and take away Ford….take away free agent FB Reese….
at least 3 wins less than they are today.
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McClain – Morrison
Veldheer – Henderson
Houston – Scott
S Brown – Boyd
Ford – Higgins
Ware – Joey Thomas
Reece went undrafted in ‘06 or ‘07. spent the last 2 years on our practice squad
November 9th, 2010 at 7:22 am
If the Raiders would have the same level of confidence at the begining of the season as they do now, i have no doubt we could be 9-0 or 8-1 at this point.
bring on the Steelers Baby.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Well now that Cable has given all you JC lovers your repreive from the pine, and is going to ride the hot hand….
Don’t you think he needs to do the same for Ford? At whose expense. DHB, JLH?
Certainly we’d like Murphy back, and I’d also like to get Schilens back as a starter.
I’d love to see Schilens, Murph, with Ford in the slot.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:23 am
GOOD DAY ALL.THEC,IT’S ALL GOOD SIR,NO WORRIES.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:25 am
I do not see a team on our remaining schedule that we cannot beat….NOT ONE….
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same here
Indy isn’t the same team they were last year, in most part due to injuries … Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, Joseph Addai to name a few
Steelers didn’t impress me last night. Cincy could have EASILY won that game. They had so many chances it wasn’t even funny. Terrell Owens abused that secondary
Murphy & Ford were probably licking their chops watching that game
November 9th, 2010 at 7:25 am
bcz24 Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Gene Steratore was the referee. Was Triplett even there? This is the same ref that put the screw job on the Dolphins against pit a few weeks ago.
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If I am not mistaken triplett was there…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:26 am
I agree that no team is unbeatable.
When the season started, we all looked at the schedule and circled the expected losses, and assumed we’d beat the bottom feeders.
But this team now has the swagger, the Kicka$$ swagger that you need to bully the other teams.
We need to continue to bring that intensity, and stare down the other teams intensity. Make them realize after that first hard hit that they need to calm the hell down and realize they are the punks of the day.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Thec07…I’m doing good bro! That was a very exciting win for us in the storm! Well, only the tailgating part was really stormy, but…all in all…it was fun!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:28 am
I’d love to see Schilens, Murph, with Ford in the slot.
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I can’t see Ford on the field ahead of DHB unless they make up some lame excuse about him being ill again
Schilens is glass. Save him for the playoffs
It’ll be Zmiller, Murphy, DHB, Ford, Higgins as receiving options against the Squeelers, in that order
November 9th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Officiating Crew:
referee: Jeff Triplette
umpire: Jeff Rice
head linesman: Wayne Mackie
line judge: Jeff Bergman
field judge: Scott Steenson
side judge: David Wyant
back judge: Steve Freeman
replay official: Bob Boylston
Someone needs to investigate these guys….
I would imagine some of them if not all have ties…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:29 am
bcz24 Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Gene Steratore was the referee. Was Triplett even there? This is the same ref that put the screw job on the Dolphins against pit a few weeks ago.
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I remember that game. Doesn’t surprise me. The NFL has a love affair with the Steelers. I am worried that they wont try that in the upcoming game.
We need to pound the hell out of the Steelers and not let BS ref calls even put the game in doubt.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:30 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Thec07…I’m doing good bro! That was a very exciting win for us in the storm! Well, only the tailgating part was really stormy, but…all in all…it was fun!
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Glad to hear it Bro…We have 2 weeks to enjoy this victory….This team should be 7-2, looking at home field advatage…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Funny how one week we have Hocculi and the next week we have Triplette…strange!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:32 am
earlier in the season when we beat SD and then lost to SF I thought “here we go again” and the sky started falling … but that seemed to be the turning point for this football team
the Raiders use to have a tendency to play down to the competition and then somehow beat teams nobody thought we’d even compete against
those days are over imo
2010 Raiders = AFC West Champs!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Thec07 Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Officiating Crew:
referee: Jeff Triplette
umpire: Jeff Rice
head linesman: Wayne Mackie
line judge: Jeff Bergman
field judge: Scott Steenson
side judge: David Wyant
back judge: Steve Freeman
replay official: Bob Boylston
Someone needs to investigate these guys….
I would imagine some of them if not all have ties…
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Vegas? Bookies? I could see this. There was no sense of even trying to follow the rules. How they could review a play that was snapped 2 plays earlier is beyond me. How do they have that power? They should be fined or fired for incompetence. By rule, they should pick up the challenge flag. How do you let a play go and then go back and review. No whistles before or during the play.
Just making up new rules as they go.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:33 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:32 am
earlier in the season when we beat SD and then lost to SF I thought “here we go again” and the sky started falling … but that seemed to be the turning point for this football team
the Raiders use to have a tendency to play down to the competition and then somehow beat teams nobody thought we’d even compete against
those days are over imo
2010 Raiders = AFC West Champs!
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I Believe!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Raiders 3-0 in division. We need to go 6-0 to send the message.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:34 am
But this team now has the swagger, the Kicka$$ swagger that you need to bully the other teams.
We need to continue to bring that intensity, and stare down the other teams intensity. Make them realize after that first hard hit that they need to calm the hell down and realize they are the punks of the day.
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Truth…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:35 am
the Raiders use to have a tendency to play down to the competition and then somehow beat teams nobody thought we’d even compete against
those days are over imo
2010 Raiders = AFC West Champs!
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Truth…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:36 am
No reason why the Raiders cannot sweep the division!
November 9th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Vegas? Bookies? I could see this. There was no sense of even trying to follow the rules. How they could review a play that was snapped 2 plays earlier is beyond me. How do they have that power? They should be fined or fired for incompetence. By rule, they should pick up the challenge flag. How do you let a play go and then go back and review. No whistles before or during the play.
Just making up new rules as they go.
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Hahahahahah…This is funny and sad at the same time…
Not sure what they were promised but if it was to make sure we dont win, they failed…..
Got run over by a Ford F-150….
November 9th, 2010 at 7:39 am
I can’t see Ford on the field ahead of DHB unless they make up some lame excuse about him being ill again
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Totally agree…Ford will get some time, but it will be the vets and starters in front of him…
November 9th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Anyway recess is over…Time to go to work…
You guys enjoy this week, and keep bringing the
Great Commentary…..
1 NATION….
November 9th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Ford will get some time, but it will be the vets and starters in front of him…
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Ford should start over DHB, but I don’t think it will happen
but who knows?
Al Davis compared Jason Campbell to Jim Plunkett and Cable benched him in Week 2. I suppose the guy AD compared to Cliff Branch could be benched in Week 11
November 9th, 2010 at 7:45 am
We now can run a bona fide 4 wide set with McFadden the lone setback and you CANT stack the box against it. Very dangerous.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Ford should start over DHB, but I don’t think it will happen
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Didn’t think that JC would keep his job either. How do you hold down the young man that saved your season?
DHBust has proven his worth as a decoy and a blocker, and not much else.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:51 am
William Gay will not be able to cover our slot receiver. Ford, Murph, Higgins… all too fast for him.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Pouncey got hurt last night. Don’t know if he made it back in. But if he’s dinged up and Adams on the right side is a weakness. We know where Big Rich will line up.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Jimbo,
if Sey can destroy Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters, what do you think he’s gonna do to that dinged up rookie ???
November 9th, 2010 at 7:57 am
WONDER WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE LIKE IN PITTSBURG ?COULD BE A FACTOR..
November 9th, 2010 at 8:00 am
DHB rolls for 100+ and a TD against Seattle and then because he was a non-factor against KC (outside of Jacoby all Raider receivers were non-factors against KC) the comments here bury the young man as “worthless”. Why the hate? He didn’t draft himself at #7.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:01 am
4 WR set = Murphy, DHB, Ford & Higgins
Chaz won’t be back to face the Squeelers.
Zmiller, Reece & DMAC are also huge in the passing game for us …
running game and defense are stellar
Pittsburgh won’t have an answer for us. Big Ben will be 0-3 against Oakland since being drafted
Dick Seymour is a family man and a God fearing christian. he has praying hands tattooed on his arm and he has a foundation to get kids spiritually fed
what do you think he wants to do to that r@pist wearing black and yellow?
November 9th, 2010 at 8:01 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:57 am
WONDER WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE LIKE IN PITTSBURG ?COULD BE A FACTOR..
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Weather is only a factor for field goals. Good teams play well in all conditions. Bad teams point to weather as a lame excuse.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Jimbo Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Pouncey got hurt last night. Don’t know if he made it back in. But if he’s dinged up and Adams on the right side is a weakness. We know where Big Rich will line up.
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Pouncey came back, as did Starks (LT). Their oline is weak on the right side with Flozell so Houston might have a nice came. That is the side you HAVE to hit Ben on to get him down.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:03 am
what do you think he wants to do to that r@pist wearing black and yellow?
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Tear him asunder.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:04 am
M,
DHB had 9 catches and 6 drops as a rookie in 12 starts.
I didn’t expect him to set the world on fire this season, but I did expect to see a few “flashes” of why we drafted the youngster. He actually has shown a few and the season isn’t over yet
WR’s usually “get it” and start to come in Year #3, same with QB’s
Look out for Stafford & Sanchez next season
November 9th, 2010 at 8:05 am
This from PFT:
“Cable doesn’t need to justify the move. Jacoby Ford may have helped Campbell out in a B- effort in the Chiefs game, but Campbell played well in wins the two weeks before. He’s getting the job done without his best receivers. The part that Gradkowski supporters seem to miss: He’s coming back from a serious shoulder injury and had a weak arm before.”
November 9th, 2010 at 8:07 am
The part that Gradkowski supporters seem to miss: He’s coming back from a serious shoulder injury and had a weak arm before
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whats weaker than a noodle arm?
November 9th, 2010 at 8:08 am
We will NEVER go 4 WR and take Zach Miller off the field.
3 WRs with Zach split out wide is more realistic.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
The part that Gradkowski supporters seem to miss: He’s coming back from a serious shoulder injury and had a weak arm before.”
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AIG,
Thoughts??????
November 9th, 2010 at 8:11 am
There was a short yardage play last night where this big guy with all this Samoan style hair hanging out his helmet just blew up Polomalu. That was fun to watch. I love Polomalu, but I hope we can do something like that early in the game and curb some of his enthousiasm.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Rockstar,
prior to Sunday JFord had 3 catches total. His drops in the first half were killers. Then BANG! he does something only one other player in NFL history had done.
Both Jacoby and DHB are works in progress. If they trade off being excellent on a weekly basis I can live with it.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:12 am
I still think you keep DHB on the field.
The “threat” he gives up deep is needed!
I’m still waiting for Campbell to throw one out there like he did for Ford, and let him run under it. No matter how many he drops, DCs are NOT going to let that deep threat go unaddressed.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:13 am
I am a Grads supporter, but that doesn’t mean I hate JC. I was hoping that Grads would return as the starter, but if not…
whoever is the starter I am behind. But I do think that Campbell got bailed out a lot, and is being rolled like a craps addict is rolling a lucky pair of sevens.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Both Jacoby and DHB are works in progress. If they trade off being excellent on a weekly basis I can live with it
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fair enough
November 9th, 2010 at 8:15 am
I still think you keep DHB on the field.
The “threat” he gives up deep is needed!
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Really, you think DC’s think that he’s a threat? You think they roll coverage to him?
November 9th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Really, you think DC’s think that he’s a threat? You think they roll coverage to him?
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Jimbo,
never pick a fight with a little guy that doesn’t talk that much and never debate with a film junkie!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:18 am
I think that if thrown to and he catches it more than once…they will, but everyone should know that its in the back of DC’s minds…I mean the Seattle game should have at least gave a little hint…
November 9th, 2010 at 8:20 am
the only reason the Raiders can throw the deep ball this year (whether its caught or even thrown accurately is a different story) is because of Jared Veldheer at LT
November 9th, 2010 at 8:20 am
never pick a fight with a little guy that doesn’t talk that much and never debate with a film junkie!
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hmmm…explain me this?
November 9th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Ray Rice you have really let me down.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:22 am
hmmm…explain me this?
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Jimbo,
Jhill studies more film than Rolando McClain & Bruce Gradkowski combined. he’ll lure you in with a softball question and then when you give an answer by memory … WHAM! watch your fingers because the hammer is coming
November 9th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Ray Rice autograph’s his way out of a ticket.
LOL
November 9th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Look at the morning crew, when they’re at their best.
Such a full range of topics.
DHB, Referees and the conspiracy theorys, Ford is better than DHB, and even a sprinkle of T.O. in here .
Gotta Love you guys, for the variety.
Enjoy the three wins, in a row, relax and have a good laugh at the rest of the NFL.
Look to the middle of the country and view the Dallas Cowboys record of 1-7, and remember when the Raiders were in that position.
The press, can’t get out of each other’s way, throwing all these great words of smug positive thoughts are way.
It’s scary to think, we could be 7-2 and, leading the NFL in many wins and oh well, enjoy!!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:25 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 8:22 am
hmmm…explain me this?
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Jimbo,
Jhill studies more film than Rolando McClain & Bruce Gradkowski combined. he’ll lure you in with a softball question and then when you give an answer by memory … WHAM! watch your fingers because the hammer is coming
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Fair enough, I don’t watch as much film as he does. What my eye does detect is that he DHB cannot position his hands well enough to consistently catch JC’s passes. Not that JC’s passes are easy to catch, but he needs to make those catches or he will continue to be a liability.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am
GM Dell!
I think Fire Kiffin is going to exact some revenge for you in FF next week
this match up does not look pretty …
November 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Good Morning Dell…
At least we’re not talking politics and calling each other names like the PMers…lol
November 9th, 2010 at 8:28 am
It’s scary to think, we could be 7-2 and, leading the NFL in many wins and oh well, enjoy!!
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Can’t wait to get my next Raider fix. I’ll have to wait till just about Turkey day. That’s giving me the shivers.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Fair enough, I don’t watch as much film as he does. What my eye does detect is that he DHB cannot position his hands well enough to consistently catch JC’s passes. Not that JC’s passes are easy to catch, but he needs to make those catches or he will continue to be a liability.
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I think his biggest problem is not ‘running through; the catch.
He anticipates the ball location and then sort of leaps at it rather than finish his route and catch on the run.
On the stop routes, hitches, comebacks is where he usually has most success, whereas crossing routes are a bit of a challenge. The ball has to be right on him and even then, his hands occasionally get in the way.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:28 am
DHB cannot position his hands well enough to consistently catch JC’s passes. Not that JC’s passes are easy to catch, but he needs to make those catches or he will continue to be a liability
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what drives me nuts are those jumps to catch a ball with his stomach in traffic rather than his hands/chest
November 9th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Jacoby is a gamer. Play him! We are going to need everybody to beat Pitt.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Fantasy is like my golf game right now.
Win some, lose more. Everybody that plays me, has their career day against me.
I just bring out the best in all around me.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:29 am
At least we’re not talking politics and calling each other names like the PMers
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Hwnrdr,
go jump in the lake you Prez BO worshipper!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:29 am
LOL J/K Hwnrdr
November 9th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Dakota
Cann I see the “Rue the Day list” re DMAC.
Thanks, ahead again.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:31 am
J Hill Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 8:12 am
I still think you keep DHB on the field.
The “threat” he gives up deep is needed!
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Especially when Zach gets back out there.
And of course, our new x factor, Khalif Barnes!!!!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am
“I just bring out the best in all around me.”
That’s a pretty cool way of dealing with a loss.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Everybody that plays me, has their career day against me.
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thats not fair to say
BCZ is the only guy who has beat me in the last 6 weeks!
thats because I had like 6 guys on a bye week
November 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Look out for Stafford & Sanchez next season
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Stafford has a grade 3 shoulder sep in his throwing arm, done for the year. 3rd MAJOR shoulder injury. He is a stud on the field but is as injury prone as Grads…
There was a short yardage play last night where this big guy with all this Samoan style hair hanging out his helmet just blew up Polomalu.
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That was Domata Peko, Defensive Tackle. They use him as a fullback in short yardage situations. He absolutely CRUSHED Polomalu!! It was visious!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:33 am
BCZ is the only guy who has beat me in the last 6 weeks!
thats because I had like 6 guys on a bye week
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Cuz I am the fantasy king! 16-2 combined on the year!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:33 am
our new x factor, Khalif Barnes!!!!
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did you read all the trash talk from him and his PS WR room mate?
that was hilarious!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:34 am
I love the Khalif Barnes quotes after the game:
“I got Gallery, Coop calling me. Samson, with a hurt knee. I got everybody trying to call me,’’ Barnes said. “Even the rook, Jared, is trying to call me for another play. I’m like, ‘Come on, dog, just let me handle it, and I’ll get you to the promised land. Let me take you there. Listen to my guidance, I’ll take you there.’ ”
Barnes’ roommate, practice squad receiver Shaun Bodiford, has heard enough.
“That’s why O-linemen can’t catch balls,’’ Bodiford said. “You can’t stop hearing about it now. He’s thinks he’s better than (Antonio) Gates. He’s making himself out to be another (Tony) Gonzalez.’’
Bodiford is concerned Barnes may want to split wide.
“He’s starting to sound like a wide receiver. `I’m open, I’m open. Give me the ball!’ It’s a little crazy,’’ Bodiford said. “It’s getting to his head a little bit.’’
November 9th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Cuz I am the fantasy king!
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BCZ,
cant argue with that. you and Marley are both FF studs!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Plunk is on a roll in FFL. Can’t be stopped. Look out Marley, I hear foot steps.
Did you guys read, the comments back and forth between Plunk and LMN, quite funny. Those two are real characters!!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:36 am
They Stafford could be done for the year.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:36 am
did you read all the trash talk from him and his PS WR room mate?
that was hilarious!
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That shows that they are becoming a truly confident winning team. They can joke and bust each others chops and have fun!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:42 am
BCZ24
You have been real consistent in the FFL. That’s what you need to do to win any league.
I’m in another league with Marley that STR is the comissioner and Marley is 3-6, or 4-5. I lead that league and Marley is fightin for playoff hope at this time.
It really depends on those players and luck with injurys, and the Managers in the league.
My league has more waiver activity than that that other league and is less competitive than the one you guys are playin.
It’s fun, keep it rollin.
I will grace you guys with my thoughts later, so check out your e mail.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:43 am
I know Rockstar…lol…
You’ll never catch me saying anything about worshipping BO…
November 9th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Morning Nation
Great trick play from Texas Middle School
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Video-The-middle-school-trick-play-that-gained-?urn=highschool-283434
November 9th, 2010 at 8:44 am
GO Lakers!!!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Really, you think DC’s think that he’s a threat? You think they roll coverage to him?
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I could be wrong Jimbo, but I do think DCs prepare for DHB, or any WR that can get 7 pts in 10 seconds. Even if he drops a couple, the one he catches is 6.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:47 am
he’ll lure you in with a softball question and then when you give an answer by memory … WHAM! watch your fingers because the hammer is coming
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LOL!
November 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am
What my eye does detect is that he DHB cannot position his hands well enough to consistently catch JC’s passes.
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Agreed.
But I’m not really talking about his skills as a WR or ability to catch a reasonable pass. Moreso the type of route and throw that we saw Ford run in OT. Just a flat out streak or post pattern with a ball thrown out in front of him.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:50 am
J Hill Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Really, you think DC’s think that he’s a threat? You think they roll coverage to him?
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I could be wrong Jimbo, but I do think DCs prepare for DHB, or any WR that can get 7 pts in 10 seconds. Even if he drops a couple, the one he catches is 6.
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I don’t deny or dispute that DC’s have to account for DHB, but the margin for error is relaxed compared to receivers that play the X that are routinely making grabs. I could also be wrong, but I lack confidence that DHB can consistently help us more than he hurts us.
I’d like to see what Ford can do given the opportunity. He also had a drop, but when the pressure is on to make a play, he excells. While DHB seems to fade when it matters.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Notice the QBs that stay healthy are the ones that get good protection consistently?
Remember the knock on Schaub was that he couldn’t stay healthy? Well, since the O Line is keeping him more upright, he’s been able to play every snap this year and I think started every game last year.
Also, QBs are blitzed less when they have more talent, like a Peyton Manning, for fear of being torn apart.
Guys like Big Ben are just big, strong and durable and have some escapability.
Leaner guys behind pourous O Line = often injured.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Yeah, DHB should be running deep posts and skinnyy posts all day. Get the ball in front of him and let him run up and catch it. Maybe that will break his habit of leaping at it.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Agreed.
But I’m not really talking about his skills as a WR or ability to catch a reasonable pass. Moreso the type of route and throw that we saw Ford run in OT. Just a flat out streak or post pattern with a ball thrown out in front of him.
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An offshoot of this is Jacoby Ford’s body control and instincts to come back for the ball. Catlike quicks to make plays. He probably never envisioned being a DB on that busted up would be interception by Flowers. But he made the play. That is a football player!
DHB to me is a guy that runs his route and is expecting the play to go a certain way (the way the coaches draw it up) or else it’s a dud.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:56 am
If Campbell could move safeties around with his eyes a bit more, I think you would see our WRs catching more deep balls.
The Ford grab in OT was simply him beating a CB that was playing way off him with no safety help over the top.
What I’m talking about is Campbell getting the D to bite on intermediate routes, maybe a pump fake and then getting the ball downfield.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Jhill how’s it going?
Turn your brain on and multi task, think Lakers and Raiders.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:56 am
On that long pass by JC to Ford. It was a high rainbow.
Even though it’s risky, I’d like to see more of that. We have the speed at the reciever spot to run under those and still beat the defender. And those types of balls are much more easy to catch with more room to adjust to the flight of the ball.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Try some reality,
this is my favorite part of the program. You mention me when im not even around. You were one of the grads supporters that ripped me for my opinion on jc. You ripped jc and made claims about grads being a better qb which were both whimsical and unsubstantiated.
Lmao! Now your trying to back off?!?! You are back sliding like micheal jackson in the billie jean video!
You called me a homer, you are wrong. I am just a raider fan that tried to educate you on football in general and qb play specifically. Campbell is better, he won the job, as i knew he would in time. In the process he has laid waste to all of you and your fellow haters weak fabricated fantasy laden boast, on grads ability.
Yes indeed bra, Cambell beat the hell out of you! Stall out the wishy washy bs and stick to your guns. Now you “actually like jc” that is a load of crap. You sound like an impostor band wagon wanna be that is trying to avoid having his teeth kicked in. It wont work. You were one of the fools here saying things like jc would be out of football, couldnt play nfl qb along with a bunvh of other ridiculous trash!
Face it you dont know qb’s and you are getting manhandled by Campbell rocket arm and late game heriocs! Next time you copy and paste something i post, print it then take it home and study it. At least that way you can sound like you know football.
Tap out now bra, jc just pounded you into submission!
November 9th, 2010 at 9:09 am
You are back sliding like micheal jackson in the billie jean video!
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Mistic,
Johnnie Lee is a good dancer too man.
November 9th, 2010 at 9:15 am
new post!
November 9th, 2010 at 9:16 am
323.Raider Dell Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 8:44 am
GO Lakers!!!
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I’m all Raiders now!
You should see these Raider oversized cleat slippers I picked up Saturday, lol!
I’ll catch up on the Lakers around Xmas. Or maybe Valentines day since our boy B says that’s when they’ll start trying.
November 9th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Remember the knock on Schaub was that he couldn’t stay healthy? Well, since the O Line is keeping him more upright, he’s been able to play every snap this year and I think started every game last year.
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Houston only lost because Schaub left the game injured… funny you should mention that this week. LOL
November 9th, 2010 at 9:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 8:20 am
the only reason the Raiders can throw the deep ball this year (whether its caught or even thrown accurately is a different story) is because of Jared Veldheer at LT
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Great Point. RR
Cant underestimate the value of this rook. We need a backup C. Satele is nicked and playing the Steelers, I dont want Valdheer moved off the left tackle spot.
Cable talking about putting Huff on special teams to learn to tackle. — Watching the Steeler’s game last night, could not help to think about Huff coming clean on a blitz on Ben R. and not being able to bring him down
November 9th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Also, QBs are blitzed less when they have more talent, like a Peyton Manning, for fear of being torn apart.
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Manning is blitzed, but his ability to read a defense and react, as well as the speed of his release is unmatched, that is why Manning never gets sacked.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
[...] you can’t. You have to have your focus on what your team’s doing,” Cable said, per the Oakland Tribune. “I love what I do and I think I do good at it so it’s just a matter of staying the course. [...]