Cable Q&A
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 at 7:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A transcription of Raiders coach Tom Cable’s press briefing with the local media before the team took time off until Monday to begin preparing for a Nov. 21 date in Pittsburgh against the Steelers:
Cable: OK, we concluded our practice today with a little work on Pittsburgh, kind of wanted to get an early start on them, just wanted to give them something to think about with their time off and just introducing them to some fronts, formations, coverages, things like that so they’ve got something to have in their brain as they go away and relax a little bit. Good work today. Look forward to getting back Monday and going to work.
Q: Did you give them (computer) discs to study?
Cable: We’ve given guys different things. Could be paper, could be disc. But yeah, anyone, A) who wanted it, or B) who we think needed it, we made sure they had material they could work on.
Q: Several years now team has struggled off byes, last seven losses. Did you look at those years as you planned this year or just take it as a separate season?
Cable: I approached it based on this team. I really didn’t look at the past. I am aware of that win-loss thing, but I thought, this is what this team needs right now and is what’s bet for us, and that was the approach.
Q: Chaz Schilens is working hard, stopping, starting, cutting with trainer how do you feel about his progress?
Cable: Getting excited. Really. I think next week we have a chance to get him back in uniform and start to work. How much that is, and can he go back to back and all that, we’ll have to find that out. But I think we’re real close to getting him back on the practice field.
Q: What does he add, different than the other guys?
Cable: You know, I think it gives us another playmaker, if you look at his history, albeit brief, he’s made something happen. And you’ve got more speed and you’ve got more size. In the back of my mind I’m really starting to get excited that that this will really start to improve us in one particular area and that’s the red zone.
Q: So do Zach and Nnamdi stick around and rehab during the bye week?
Cable: If they have an injury, had one or got one in the last game, they’ll remain around here and rehab and they’ll have responsibilities until Monday.
Q: Not know anything about them until Monday, or are seeing some progress?
Cable: No, we’re seeing progress, but we’ll do some training and film and meetings and walkthrough on Monday, and then Wednesday when we practice we’ll kind of know where we’re at with those two guys and I kind of feel good about it. It’s not for sure yet, obviously but I know they’re moving in the right direction.
Q: Bruce said it was the best he’s felt . . . what did you see . . .
Cable: I saw him throw a couple of balls today that excited me because I’ve not seen it. This was the first time down the field and having to really cut it loose one time down the field and throw a big dig route. So it’s exciting we’re getting close. There’s still some issues there but it is getting better.
Q: How is Zach looking?
Cable: We’ve been probably cautious is the best way to say it, just trying to take care of him. He is improving. Our expectation is he’ll be ready to go next Monday.
Q: How do you see Jacoby’s role, given the way he played Sunday?
Cable: I think it has to continue to grow. This is a prove-it league, and certainly he’s proving it. One of the issues that’s coming for us is we’re going to get some depth and some quality players at the same time at receiver. I think that’s going to do nothing but help us. We’ve had, really I think some nice things happen to us in our three-receiver set, and I think it may allow us to be a little more confident in that personnel group.
Q: How encouraging was it to see – speed is obviously Jacoby’s big calling call – but he ripped the ball away from a guy. He showed a little bit more than just speed . . .
Cable: I think the elite players in this league at that position, that’s what they do. They go get the ball. You hear coaches say it all the time. He goes and gets the ball or he goes and takes the ball out of the air. He did that on both occasions, the one where he took the interception away and then he went and got the post route and used his speed as well as just the passion to go get the football.
Q: How do you get that to happen? Is that something you can work on with guys or is it something that they have?
Cable: I think it’s a little bit of both, and I think it’s a lot more of they have. You do some drills where you try to throw balls out front and really strain them to have to go get it.
Q: When you first saw him on film, what was your reaction to his speed?
Cable: It was a ‘wow’ fast. We were watching, getting ready for the draft. He was returning a kick. He and C.J. Spiller were on the same team, so you had to figure out which was which because they’re both fast guys. He was returning a kickoff and it was like, ‘Wow,’ so it was wow fast.
Q: Two rookies have started from the first day. But top to bottom could have ever foreseen that you’d be using your rookies so much?
Cable: Honestly, no. We’re thrilled that it’s turned out this way, there’s no question. I don’t think anybody can expect this number of guys to contribute this amount on any one team. Across the league, if you look at it, there’s a lot of rookies showing up this year. I think we’re fortunate that other than Goethel, when you really think about it, only because of the injury, he’s probably been the least amount, in terms of being involved, he and Bruce (Campbell). They’re both going to be fine players, so it’s a heck of a draft.
Q: What’s your reaction to the story about Al Davis wanting Campbell to start?
Cable: My feeling is this. This organization, regardless of what’s written or what’s said, or what some unnamed source, or whatever that is, says, is run by the owner and it’s coached by the coach. As it pertains to this football team, the decisions that go on with players, they’re going to be made by me. I made that clear since Day One. And that’s the way we do business. And, obviously, it’s working.
Q: What did it take for the players to buy into your philosophy?
Cable: Well, obviously, results. Results are always the exclamation point. But the real truth of it is, is you got to more stubborn as a coach than the problem, if that makes sense. We’ve never ducked trying to change the attitude, trying to change the environment in the locker room and that sort of thing. We’ve never dodged that. We’ve dealt with it. We’ve talked about it. We’ve learned to communicate, learned to trust each other. You have to do those things. You have to work at those things. They just don’t happen. Knowing what the problem is, you have to be willing to stand up to the problem. If you’re bigger than the problem, then you can make it happen. If you’re not, the problem wins. So, I feel like, as a coaching staff and as a football team, together, that we’ve become bigger than what our negatives are, and that’s why we’re succeeding.
Q: Did the margin by which you defeated Denver provide more of a spark than say a “normal’ win would have?
Cable: Well, yes. The mentality that we’ve been striving for; we’re going to get in your face, we’re going to fight you and we’re going to scratch and claw, do whatever we can, that mentality came out. Boom, we get a play, then we get another play, then another play, then another play, and pretty soon you looked up and it’s 21, it’s 28, it’s like, holy cow. There was no let up. It was everyone, like, now let’s get ‘em. Like piranhas. That mentality came out. We learned so much from that, that we are capable of that happening to us. For all of us, the real key game was coming home to Seattle and getting it done the way we did and making it a real punishing, physical play in the second half. We learned how to finish last week and hang in there. The mentality that grew from the Denver game was huge.
Q: Have you guys turned the corner?
Cable: We’ve turned the corner on some issues. We’re becoming a winning football team. We’re becoming a confident football team with some faith and belief. Now we understand that we have to go out and do it a certain way every time. The first half of the Kansas City game is a perfect example. We have a saying now, to compromise is to fail. And we compromised each other, ourselves, in that first half Sunday. We didn’t play very well defensively – they kept us in the game – but special teams wasn’t very good and offensively, not very good either. That’s was really what we talked about halftime and went out and played in all three phases the rest of the way.
Q: Was Seymour today?
Cable: He was not. He was excused to go and take care of his kids.
Q: Anyone else excused?
Cable: Nope.
Q: How would you assess Jared Veldheer’s progress as a starter coming from a Division II school?
Cable: It’s huge. The neat thing about coaching that group of guys is that when guys do it over and over and over they really get it. He got beat the one time in the game. It’s just not finishing the back of the pocket. If you look at the overtime play, it was the same rush on the same shoulder but a different finish and they got the block. What I get geeked about is here’s a young guy that when he came to the sideline you talked through when he got beat and how you fix that and the next time it came he went right to what he knew and what he was taught. He did it. That’s why he’s having the success he’s having. He’s a brilliant young guy who just has loads of talent but he strives to be great. That’s a gift. You can’t teach that one.
Q: Is Janikowski locked in at this point where you believe you can count on him?
Cable: I’ve always felt like that with him to be quite honest with you. The irony of this whole thing is the kick he missed in Arizona was the exact same hash and the exact same distance as on Sunday. So he put that to bed. I mentioned that to him in front of the team. That’s behind us now. I think he’d be the first to tell you, ‘wherever you need it I can make it.’ That’s how I feel about him.
Q: Where would you have kicked from at end of regulation?
Cable: That way we thought as long as we got inside the 40 we had a shot?
Q: So what’s up next for you, head to the beach?
Cable: (laughs) No. We’re going to get to work on Pittsburgh.
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November 10th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
BEST YEAR EVER!!!!!!
November 10th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
LETS GO RAIDERS!! ENJOY A WELL DESERVED BYE WEEK
November 10th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Notice how Cable says………And All That…….What is THAT?
November 10th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Pittsburgh is no threat. Their o-line is banged up big time. The C, LG, LT are out or barely walking. Our D-Line will trash them.
Raiders 30
Steelers 13
November 10th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
This team reminds me of the 1993 team. It went down to the wire against Denver to make the playoffs that year – Wright scored on the last play to tie, and then Jaeger won it with a FG in OT. The next weekend, we kick the donkeys hard in the Wild Card game. We finished 10-6, which is probably about where this team needs to be to get to the playoffs, and be at least 5-1 in the division with two wins over the Chiefs. That last game could be huge and have AFC West implications.
What is sweeter now than back in 1993 is the fact that out team is looking to have more draft picks than pick ups/castaways on the roster – meaning that we should have more time to jell and grow into this decade as a formidable team.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
BEST YEAR EVER!!!!!!
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Best year of the post Gruden/Gannon era, no doubt. But ever? 13-1 plus SB victory in ‘76. 12-4 plus SB victory in ‘83. This team, even if it wins the Super Bowl (not likely, despite how good things are going), would only be the 3rd best team in Raider history. This is looking to be a good season, but nothing to hold up against the franchise’s history. Guess this is where all of that promotion of the past haunts us. It’s hard to match.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
504, im in, like we did the last time, this team is starting to believe in themselves, i’ve been broadcasting this for months, we’ve got great young talent, Al is listening to this blog, Jerry is giving the dope, no where to go but up! GO RAIDERS!
November 10th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Hey, we all have to admit that Cable is definately coming into his own as the head football coach. There are still some calls that make us scratch our heads, but overall, much improved.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
It’s all about the players. Without Ford, we lose last week. That’s outright indisputable.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
RMR, watched every game of those seasons, most of the players where at the end of their seasons, compare apples with apples, this ia a young AD team that is starting to gel, I know you don’t get this, if we keep this team together, a dynasty is about to be reborn. Write this down, non believers…….
November 10th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
We have a saying now, to compromise is to fail.
No knuckleheads
No Compromising
November 10th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RMR, don’t hunt and peck, games are won and lost by teams, not indivigables, stay off of BSPN. This is a Good RAIDERS TEAM.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
244.aig-raiders Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Hill,
Campble wasnt getting it done to our WR’s. With Bruce in you can feel a rythm to our passing game. In that game, he had big plays to Murphy, DHB, and Miller. That half still stands as the most balanced half to date for our offense. I believe both WR’s had at least 6 catches each and Murphy close to 100 yds.
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AIG,
It’s pretty clear you are mis-remembering. You should really check out the link to the game recap.
I’m matter of factly telling you it did not go down like that.
Bruce completed ONE pass on one of the FG drives with a few incompletions.
And the TD drive was highlighted by a 30 plus yd run by DMac and a 24 yd pass to the TE.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
3.860Todd Christensen Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Notice how Cable says………And All That…….What is THAT?
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It’s kinda like saying “you know what i’m sayin” all the time. Ya know what i’m sayin?
November 10th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
10.860Todd Christensen Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
RMR, watched every game of those seasons, most of the players where at the end of their seasons, compare apples with apples, this ia a young AD team that is starting to gel, I know you don’t get this, if we keep this team together, a dynasty is about to be reborn. Write this down, non believers…….
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I can fell it too.
Only us RAIDER fan’s can go 5-4 and start talking dynasty… lol
November 10th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
By the way, I smell a trade brewing. Old Al is cookin up a doozie.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Who do you think Al is brewing up a trade for? I had this funny feeling that he was going to go after Al Harris after he got cut, but do we need him?
November 10th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I can just see the great genius intently reading our comments.
Maybe he read mine.
As if anyone here needed to know the hot “news” that Davis is the head of the Raider nation, or that he always calls all the shots.
Who broke the story? The return of Mr. Infamous Unnamed? Who in the press (cess) pool asked the question? Was it Jerry Mac who broke the story or asked question in the Q & As?
What else is Cable going to respond? Doesn’t he need to save face and continue to hold down the fort? Of course he coaches on the field, so indeed Davis “called the shot,” but is that something that would need to come from unnamed sources or leaks?
The 5-4 team is the same team that was 2-4 and was getting racked by many here, including me. There are also the hard core loyal that held the fort just as well, gotta give it up to them,
This team showed me they can actually win many ways, either playing great, good or plain ugly as they did Sunday. Beating down the donkeys was probably a better than good game, the seahens win much better, but the chefs was ugly and sloppy, but they still won even with the better players out of the game.
The schedule gets tougher now with 4 out of the seven on the road, and Indy here at the end of the season when both teams will need to win.
Even if losing these 5 games but playing up to what they’ve shown so far, better things can be expected to come next year.
But let’s hope they don’t go on and lose them ugly and go back to the same losing trend.
7-9 or 8-8 is totally respectable, 9-7 gets Cable a fat check, 10-6 Al Davis for football genius emeritus, 11-5 naw…
November 10th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Wheres the love for Stanford Routt? How many of you so called “fans” on this site knows that Routt has allowed THE LOWEST CATCH PERCENTAGE OF ALL STARTING CB’S IN THE NFL INCLUDING ASO, REVIS, FLOWERS, AND ANYBODY ELSE?
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November 10th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
17.hwnrdr Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Who do you think Al is brewing up a trade for? I had this funny feeling that he was going to go after Al Harris after he got cut, but do we need him?
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Chad Henne
November 10th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
4 Nnamdi?
November 10th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
This team is the strongest team in the NFL right now. Can any other team overcome injuries to their key players, terrible officating and strong opposition and still find a way to win? I doubt it. Everybody has enjoyed beating down the Raiders for years and all they have managed to do is make them as tough as nails. They won’t allow anything any team does or official does or doesn’t do affect them. They are beyond that and because of that they are the toughest team in football. Everyone will suddenly become aware of this after they destroy the Pittsburg Steelers by some crazy score like 59-3. This team will not lose another game this year.
November 10th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
DeAngelo Hall is a BEAST in zone coverage!
November 10th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
22.StopThis Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
This team is the strongest team in the NFL right now. Can any other team overcome injuries to their key players, terrible officating and strong opposition and still find a way to win? I doubt it. Everybody has enjoyed beating down the Raiders for years and all they have managed to do is make them as tough as nails. They won’t allow anything any team does or official does or doesn’t do affect them. They are beyond that and because of that they are the toughest team in football. Everyone will suddenly become aware of this after they destroy the Pittsburg Steelers by some crazy score like 59-3. This team will not lose another game this year.
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Credit goes to Al Davis for hiring Cable, and Cable for not taking ANY excuses.
November 10th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Chad Henne
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Awww Dirty, you had a great build up for the Henne let down, lol.
How is Henne a big trade?
I see Al going after Vick, or trading back into the first round.
November 10th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
That is what I like about this team…they don’t give up like in years past! Even last year, we would have lost that game Sunday! And I too, see that there is not one game that we cannot win the rest of the season! Not one! It will be tough, but if they play the way they are playing on ALL phases…it can be done! Our beloved has already shocked the NFL of where they are now…
November 10th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Hey listen up all negative posters: Jump on the band wagon!! It has been a long time since we have been able to speak postively about our RAAAYYYDDDAAAHHHSSS!!
Give it up already!! If it’s all Al’s fault when times are bad, then it must be Al’s fault when time are good!!
November 10th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
raaaayyyyduuuuhhhhsss….
November 10th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Hill,
I dont mis-remember.
1st-10, 50 12:23 B. Gradkowski passed to L. Murphy down the middle for 26 yard gain
1st-10, OAK17 9:33 B. Gradkowski passed to D. Heyward-Bey to the right for 16 yard gain
1st-10, OAK33 9:04 B. Gradkowski passed to Z. Miller to the right for 24 yard gain
1st-10, OAK11 3:50 B. Gradkowski passed to D. Heyward-Bey to the right for 33 yard gain
3rd-2, STL25 11:51 B. Gradkowski passed to L. Murphy down the middle for 14 yard gain
3rd-7, OAK37 2:46 B. Gradkowski passed to L. Murphy to the left for 13 yard gain
Final box score
JC 8/15 87 yds 1 int
Bruce 11/22 162 yds 1 td 1 int
DHB 6 catches 80 yds long of 33
Murphy 6 catches 91 yds long of 27
Miller 3 catches 49 yds long of 24
If you look at this and dont think it was a well balanced attack int he 2nd half then we really must be looking at the wrong game. It is clearly obvious Bruce takes the ball downfield more than JC does. JC is ranked 30th in the league for passes over 20 yds as quoted earlier by someone else. If you remember, the crowd was chanting his name at the end of the game.
November 10th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
***chanting Bruce’s name.
November 10th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
CB Stats:
Nnamdi:
Total
Targets 20
Catches 5
Yards 87
Touchdowns 0
Interceptions 0
Pass Defense 5
Penalties 2
Routt:
Targets 57
Catches 17
Yards 319
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 1
Pass Defense 8
Penalties 5
Revis:
Total
Targets 23
Catches 11
Yards 221
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 0
Pass Defense 5
Penalties 1
Should be 4 tds for routt because of the blown coverage on Bowe though.
November 10th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
AIG,
That’s 6 of his 11 completions for the game man. Are you really arguing random completions as a point?
I thought the topic was leading the team? Actually being the one who generated points?
You say Bruce’s best game was the St Louis game. I think I showed you that, as you say, any QB could have led 2 of the scoring drives.
November 10th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
I dont know if you guys caught sound efx on nfl network but one of the segments featured cable and let me just say this…he is the man for the job and the team loves him..they showed the locker room post game and cable said he never did it before but he wanted to do three cheers hip hip hooray…it was freakin awesome…the team loved it did it and is ready to rock!
November 10th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I personally think that Bruce is the better QB for this system right now. But Campbell continues to start. You can not take away the fact that Jason is fighting hard and is finding ways to win. His foot work has improved a great deal. He was with out two of his favorite go too guy with Miller and Murphy out. He hung in there and in the 2nd half developed confidence in Ford. It’s only going to help him when everyone is healthy. He won’t focus on specific targets. And IF he does struggle we then have the Ace in the hole Gradkowski who you know can play just as well and provide a spark to lift the team if need be.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
BEST YEAR EVER!!!!!!
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I don’t know about that. The Raiders have had some pretty good years. And they have strung some pretty good years together. That being said, the last three games have reminded me of the great Raider comebacks, and the great Raider games from the early 70’s more than anything since, well, since, well, the early 70’s!
November 10th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
J Hill Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Chad Henne
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Awww Dirty, you had a great build up for the Henne let down, lol.
How is Henne a big trade?
I see Al going after Vick, or trading back into the first round
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Henne was sarcasim.
But prob a QB, or good vat WR
November 10th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
31.Guy Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
CB Stats:
Nnamdi:
Total
Targets 20
Catches 5
Yards 87
Touchdowns 0
Interceptions 0
Pass Defense 5
Penalties 2
Routt:
Targets 57
Catches 17
Yards 319
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 1
Pass Defense 8
Penalties 5
Revis:
Total
Targets 23
Catches 11
Yards 221
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 0
Pass Defense 5
Penalties 1
Should be 4 tds for routt because of the blown coverage on Bowe though.
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So Routt is pretty darn good.
Better the Fabin Washington any day.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
OG,
Yeah I’m a duche bag. Come next Sunday I’ll be laughing at your a$$ for thinking JaPuke was any good.
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You have two options. I went thru this with Russell. You can either support the player, who happens to be a starting Raider, or you don’t. There’s a word for those who don’t support the Raider starters. They’re called Chief fans.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
16.Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
By the way, I smell a trade brewing. Old Al is cookin up a doozie.
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Cris Long????
November 10th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
AIG
The crowd doesn’t need to chant Bruce’s name you do enough of that in here allday everyday. Your worse than a chick at a Prince concert.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
31.Guy Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
CB Stats:
Nnamdi:
Total
Targets 20
Catches 5
Yards 87
Touchdowns 0
Interceptions 0
Pass Defense 5
Penalties 2
Routt:
Targets 57
Catches 17
Yards 319
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 1
Pass Defense 8
Penalties 5
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So Routt is pretty darn good.
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Huh? let’s go over this so you can understand it. lst off, Routt is targeted almost THREE TIMES as much as Nnamdi. You wanna know why? Because Routt sucks that’s why. 2ndly, Nnamdi gives up a 20% completion rate, and slightly over 4 yards per. Routt is way higher. Wanna know why? He sucks. Nnamdi defenses 20% of the passes thrown his way. Routt defenses only 14% of the passes thrown his way. You wanna know why, because most of the other times he’s been beaten he gives up a PI.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Right Raccoon I’ve been on the Routt bandwagon all season. He has been good except for the Chargers game, and the blown coverage was inexcusable. A lot better than he is given credit for though.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
As hard as some of us have been on Cable for not getting the O-line up to snuff, the guy deserves credit for Veldheer (who’d have thought?) and the O-line in general starting to come together. Now all of us can stop b1tch1ng for a LT. Let’s just hope Veldheer stays healthy.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Hopefully JC can build on that pass in OT to Ford. That’s the kind of thing that will build confidence for a player. If he can build on that and work on his timing, maybe he can become the player that the big boss envisioned.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Who’d have thunk it, huh fellas? All that noise about some of these supposed wiz coaches like Whisenhunt, Childress, etc. and how we couldn’t attract them. And here we are making noise with Cable. No knuckleheads, baby!
And, by the way, what an addition Hue Jackson is. Good work, Davis.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
BumpNRun Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Seems like Campbell has a hard time anticipating an opening. He has to SEE it develop before he’ll pull the trigger. Don’t know if it is a lack of confidence in the receivers, or just a slower read.
But that OT rainbow to Ford was a thing of beauty, out and away. That probably got the ol’ man’s blood pumping hard enough to reach his head, putting Bruce solidly on the bench. So what? Worth a roll of the dice to see if C-Bell can grab #4 in a row!
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Good post. I agree with both paragraphs.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I am starting to become impressed with how Cable is starting to fit the role. To be honest, he has the perfect Raider head coach quality about him. Is it all smoke and mirrors? Who knows. But I like what I see and hear from our coaches.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
# morilla Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I am starting to become impressed with how Cable is starting to fit the role. To be honest, he has the perfect Raider head coach quality about him. Is it all smoke and mirrors? Who knows. But I like what I see and hear from our coaches.
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No, it’s not smoke and mirrors with Cable. What is is, is these players have been lied to by everyone ever since they were 7 years old. Everyone lies to them. Their pee wee coaches, their high school counselors and advisors, their college position and head coaches, their “friends”, their new “friends”, their agents, their new position coaches in the league, their head coaches in the league. Anytime anyone deals plainly and honestly with them, they appreciate and respect it. It’s not that hard. It’s just rare.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Man are you right about Veldheer whata talent sstarting in his rookie year and getting it done he was a major concern in the KC game because I knew the would matchup Hali on him. Hue Jackson has proven to be the biggest pickup over the offseason including rookies. This offense he has brought is extremely dynamic and aggressive.
But even better when you look at this draft contribution this year it’s nothing short of remarkable. Three starters and 5 heavy contributors some were not even DRAFTED. Like Steve Brown is playing serious minutes on D and Goethel and BCampbell shuld be bigtime contributors if not starters next year. That’s knowing what you need and knowing who fits your system. W McFadden and Jeremy Ware you just cannot beat that considering where they were drafted. Talk about getting straight A’s.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Like the analysis Seymour! Even in the Denver blow out, he pointed out what they did wrong! That is what they need!
November 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
32.J Hill Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
AIG,
That’s 6 of his 11 completions for the game man. Are you really arguing random completions as a point?
I thought the topic was leading the team? Actually being the one who generated points?
You say Bruce’s best game was the St Louis game. I think I showed you that, as you say, any QB could have led 2 of the scoring drives.
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Hill,
Your statement is any QB could have done it. Ok then answer this….
Why didnt JC produce more than 3 points or at least match with Bruce did in the first half? You said any QB could have done it right? It was the same game, same player, and same opponent
Btw, on all those 3 scoring drives in the 2nd half, we started at our 34, 17, and 18 yd lines. The biggest contribution out of those 3 drives from McFadden was 1 30yd run.
but dont take my words. Answer this last question. If it was any QB, then why did the crowd chanted Bruce’s name? When was the last time the oakland crowd did that for JC, Jawalrus, Collins, Brooks, Walter, McCown, and Culpepper?
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November 10th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Preist,
It sucks to be wrong time and again huh. Werent you the one that said Grad couldnt carry Jawalrus jocks? WTF happened bro. What happened to your boy. Why did the Oakland Coliseum fell cheered for Grad and absolutely booed both JC and Jawalrus? I guess I am not alone with all those 30k fans.
November 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Everybody forgets Campbell had 9 yards passing at half. He had 1 int. and should have had 4 (McGraw dropped 2 right at him and Ford stole 1 from the DB at the end of the game) He fumbles like there’s no tomorrow and has possibly the worst internal clock in the history of football.
We won the game because of our stellar “D” and special teams
Have a great bye week and get healthy GRADS!!!!!!
November 10th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Yeah but who’s starting moron? who’s getting it done? who’s got us to 5-4?? Chanting and cheering doesn’t win games playing does. JC is playing get it??
When Grads gets in there we’ll cheer for him but until then why not cheer for the guy in there instead of acting like spoiled if I can’t have it my way then I wont play sissy.
This is A TEAM grads isn’t bigger than the team. He’s doing what he should be doing staying ready if he’s called on…………period man up and get over yourself BOY.
November 10th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
I’m sorry but I didnt realize the fans were chanting JC’s name at the end of last Sunday’s game. Are you hallucinating or drunk?
Sorry but you never cheered for Grad you fraud. You hated his a$$ because he made Jawalrus look bad and then made JaPuke look bad. dont try to pass that schytt on me Priest. I’ll call you on it every time. Grad outplayed Jawalrus last season and you blasted Grad all offseason. Now you claim you cheered for him? lmao
BTW, I’ve been on JaPuke since Tenn. I havent wavered. The guy rode the Coat Tail of Dmac on offense for 2 weeks. What happened last week was predicted by me. So get off this I cheer for the team BS. I cheer for the day we are done with this Fraud JaPuke the sooner the better we can move on.
November 10th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Are you JC’s dad posting as Priestj
November 11th, 2010 at 12:02 am
BigLefty,
That’s why I dont cheer for JC. If he was the reason for us winning, then I’d give him props. BUT he’s not. He looked awful most of the year and then when counted upon to carry us, he sucks. I predicted last Sunday that he can’t carry us and you saw the same thing I saw. It’s so frickin clear to me that he was not the reason for our win streak. I am terrified AD is about to throw a 5 year 60 mil contract to JC and here we go again.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Aig
I agree
The Raiders won in spite of JC. NOT because of him. His job right now is to not lose the game and to take care of the ball.
JC tried to give KC the the game about 5 or 6 different times
preistj your getting it all wrong…I cheer for the team and I don’t root for JC to fail I just know we are a much better team with Grad’s at the helm!!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:15 am
You don’t know what I did first of all, I’m a Raiders fan not some adolescent punk crying about his hero. I cheer for whoever plays and makes plays. Always have who starts isn’t some huge ordeal with me like it s with you I want the Raiders to win ballgames……………period
I couldn’t care less if JC is the reason for the win streak or not I care about the win streak you small minded idiot I don’t play favorites. With yopu it’s pick every play apart and analyze to see if you can deny credit. That is petty and immature. You’re a child there are 5 year olds that are more mature than you when it comes to this worthless crap.
Grow up Punkass sucka!!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:25 am
BigLefty
Everyone is entitled to their favorite players and opinions it’s the point that you take it to that matters. I like Chocolate ice cram you like vanilla as long as we both get ice cream what the issue. It’s the wins that matter if you think Grads is better so what I don’t give a damn…………period
As long as he takes his butt in there and gives it everything he has to win games I’m all for him. I don’t have this need to be right so bad that it consumes me and I’d rather lose than be wrong.
Like some moron on here.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:04 am
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
RMR, don’t hunt and peck, games are won and lost by teams, not indivigables, stay off of BSPN. This is a Good RAIDERS TEAM.
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Here we go again. I was hoping we could just all celebrate this week but it seems some kool aid drinkers cant resist to lecture and pontificate. Now, it’s time for the hot seat.
Do we or do we not win this game without Jacoby Ford?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:31 am
This team began to change when Cable stepped in, you just didn’t notice it, the subtle changes. This guy is a media master, the way he fields questions, he controls it and makes it believeable. He had me believing end of last year and there were times where I would have given anything for Gruden again and maybe there will be a time when he returns to his rightful home but I would not trade Cable for Gruden right now because and I have said this all year long, they play for him. I have said all along this team is on the edge as long as they call smart plays, which they finally seem to be doing, gotta blitz once in a while and I said after game 2 or 3, gotta run the ball.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:38 am
I am inclined to believe that we keep Campbell for now on a short leash, dude is up and down and when he’s down, he really stinks. They won that game in spite of him, not because of him and there is no way around that. Sure you have got to give your receiver a chance to make a play but some of those throws were very poor. He kind of sounds like JaWHO? in that respect, leaving it all on the receiver to make a play and not on him to deliver a good throw. I prefer Grads no secret there and I think the way to sell this to the team is to say anything to win….if we gotta change QB’s to do it when and if needed then so be IT both ways (Grads to Campbell and Campbell to Grads). Keep winning, it’s all that matters and as to the leaker……it’s Herrera in my opinion.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:39 am
Or it could be Randy Hansen, he’s got to be a little sore that Cable has some success, I mean the little guy thought he was next in line to run this team.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:47 am
Let’s put some perspective in this, Al Davis when times are bad distances himself from the team. You don’t hear a thing coming from him, he didn’t put this team together, his hands are off it. However, when things start to turn and when they are winning, it’s a different tune. It’s me, me, me, me, I did it I deserve the credit. Davis can’t win all by himself but he can surely lose all by himself in the decisions he makes. How you choose to handle him as a coach makes all the difference in the world. You can’t come in like Lance Kiffin and say look I know better than you, your dealing with an egomaniac so that approach goes off like a fart in church. You can’t come in like Mike White or Norv Turner, he will eat you alive. At the end of the day, you’ve got to be a man Al can somewhat respect but you’ve got to know your place like Shell at first and at the same time you can’t overstep that like Gruden did. You can’t be bigger than Al, when al has the power. I think Cable has to watch his step, he’s at a cruical time where if he keeps this in place, he has a chance to be the head coach for a while and that would be very very good for the team and us fans. If not Al can ruin it in a heartbeat, he can do that all by himself yes sir.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:32 am
Gradkowski for 16 games = Billy Joe Hobert
Campbell = Bubby Brister
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LOL @ Dirtiest Raccoon!
November 11th, 2010 at 5:38 am
AIG,
what do the Raiders have to do to make you realize that they are the real deal?
3 straight wins. 4 out of the last 5 games. 3-0 in the division. bye week to get healthy. 1/2 game back from AFC West Champs. 1st place if KC loses to Dungver!
if they beat your beloved Squeelers, will you finally get on board?
the Raiders are more PHYSICAL than the Steelers are this year. I’m going to laugh my head off when Troy shreds his knee, Ben gets a concussion and we whoop them by 30 with JCamp at QB
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 am
They make that Koolaid STRONG in Podunk! LOL
Morning Nation.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:57 am
PODUNK-KOOLAID,DARK PURPLE AND VERY STRONG…GOOD MORNING ROCKSTAR,BCZ24.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:45 am
lol Potent Podunk Kool aid
But RR is right.
Its not what they might do unto us but what we will do unto them.
Cable & company has learned how to punch other teams in the face for 60 minutes.
Iron city will lose to the pats sunday because they are looking ahead to the game with us. They know they have another butt whupping coming from the Raiders.
I would not be suprised if Tomlin is a no show.
Last I heard he was sewing up bulletproof undergarments and greasing the wheel bearings on the ambulance.
I almost feel sorry for a hard worker like Tomlin trying to find ways to beat Cable to the punch,,,,,, Aint gonna happen.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:47 am
- No team sport is won or lost by one player, if you think about no game ever comes down to a single play.
- The Jason/Bruce debate continues…..Who cares who’s playing as long as the Raiders win.
- Jason has has some less than stellar moments and so has Bruce.
- Against a good Dallas defense on Thanksgiving Day last year Bruce didn’t look so hot either. So all of these folks talking about how much in trouble the Raiders are in with Jason at QB against the Steelers need to be a little more realistic.
- The Losses:
Titans Blowout – Raiders couldn’t stop the run/became one dimensional with a new QB at the helm and a horrid OL.
Cardinals – All are to blame players and coaches too many mistakes and bad play calling.
Texans – Bad OL QB doesn’t trust his WR or OL.
49ers – Horrific play calling, bad OL play.
- All have a a role to play in the losses and believe it or not The Raiders probably would have lost those games even if Bruce was the QB although the might have been more compettetive base on Bruce’s familiarity with the players.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Morning Raider Nation,
Raiders change their slogan from “Just Win Baby!” to
“Just Cut It Loose!”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/For-Raiders-just-win-baby-has-turned-into-j?urn=nfl-284289
November 11th, 2010 at 7:09 am
You People,
Now the steelers are not that good and we can beat them with no problems, and a few weeks back we were 2-4.
LOL
November 11th, 2010 at 7:16 am
O
Its faith my friend blind faith
We are that ! close to being 6-3 maybe 7-2.
This team is the real deal. The neanderthals from three rivers are aging and they fear the speed that comes with the punching power of the Raiders.
They fear the Pimp Hand
November 11th, 2010 at 7:16 am
I think we are doing great, and Players/Cable/ Hue/ AD deserve all the credit. This team can be great but we have to:
1- Stop the Run. We are still 27th, but we are improving.
2- Fix the OL. They are not consistent.
3-improve coaching. We are also improving, but we need to do better at play calling and adjusting in halftime.
4- after we fix the OL then we can look at other issues like QB, WR, Blocking FB, etc..
November 11th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Introducing the newest Raider motto
Fear The Pimp Hand!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:22 am
LMAO Plunk.
I know we should be 6-3. Damn Jano.
We have a tough schd, but we can win if we prepare right and play well.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:29 am
We need to do a few things better.
Steelers, MIA, KC, Chargers are good teams, and we need to be prepared and play better than last week.
J Charles avg over 5 yards.
D Bowe had a good game and he had a few drops.
Our QB, OL, and WRs (except Ford who also had 2 drops, but he is a rookie and he had 6 catches for over 140 yards and a KR for a TD).
November 11th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Sorry,
Last point cont’d: our QB, OL, and WRs (except Ford…) need to play better than last week.
DHB: 0 catches
N Miller: 0 Catches
JLH: 1 or 2 catches
Ford: 6 catches
-We need more production out of DHB, JLH, and the rest of the WRs.
-We also need Campbell to be more accurate, and run more we he can. He needs to react faster.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:46 am
RRS,
I think the Raiders can run against the Steelers. Being that the Patriots don’t really need to run for 100+ to win, I think we may be the first to do so this year, althought if we win with 20 yards on the ground, it’s still a win.
The key is to get it going early and limit mistakes and avoid turnovers.
Take their crowd out of it and keep them off balance with good play calling.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:49 am
RRS
cmon man i respect the steelers. i think they are an elite team like Baltimore. that doesnt mean i like them. the raiders d is playing at a championship level. ground game above avg. KC did limit DMAC. But offense is held back by a weak JC. some were happy with him last week. I thought he sucked and couldnt carry the team like a good qb does. I am cautiously optimistic about the raiders until we get bruce back there imo
November 11th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Slow day…
November 11th, 2010 at 7:59 am
KC did limit DMAC
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KC didn’t limit DMAC, down and distance limited the number of carries DMAC recieved. If I am not mistaken he was over 4 YPC, and was banging on KC lb’s, and DB’s….
November 11th, 2010 at 8:00 am
# Plunketthead Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Introducing the newest Raider motto
Fear The Pimp Hand!
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haha. Good one. Maybe we should all come up with new Raider mottos. How’s about:
Come here and take your beat down!
November 11th, 2010 at 8:03 am
priestj
If pointing out the obvious makes me immature as a 5 year old, retarded and a moron then I’m guilty as charged your honor.
It still doesn’t take away from the fact that JC should have had 3 more picks
Take your blinders off!!
November 11th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Cable says, “No Knuckleheads!”
good thing he doesn’t run this blog or the sound of crickets would fill this site.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:20 am
I cant believe this is the best team we have had on the field in years & some folks cant enjoy it. Yes 30 k fans chanted bruce, they did sunday while he was on the bench. But in the last drive & overtime 60 thousand in the crowd were cheering wildly fo JC! Because they have been trested to a hell of a show.
Although there are a couple of wannabe raider fans that just cant get behind a winner, most now are behind jc as a leader for this team, even if he isnt their favorite. There is nothing wrong with having bruce as 1 of the top 5 back ups in the league.
Cable is perfect for this team. The owner runs it i coach on the field, what more can raiser fans want? Unlike gruden & others who demamd authority to do more than just coach, cable is the classic raider head man.
2002 we had a collection of great players near the end. A one run team with, a very limited window for superbowl glory. Now we have young home grown talent, with potentoal for greatness, amd a couple of established great players. This has us set up for a prolonged window of opportinity over the next 4-5 hears at least.
Great time to be a Raider fan!
November 11th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Pretty suprised at the inconsistancy in here.
At the end of last year and this offseason, there were many critics of Bruce’s play, and the perceived “luck” he had in the Pittsburgh game. My viewpoint was that DB’s always drop picks every game every week, and yes our WR’s actually stepped up and made plays.
Well I have stayed consistant with this stance as applies to Campbell. He had some dropped INT’s last week, happens all the time. To me, there is no real difference between the pass Ford stole from a defender and the Murphy grab of the pass along the sidelines in the Pitt game. QB’s were under pressure in the pocket, losing with time running out, and threw it up and hoped for the WR’s to make a play. Both QB’s deserve nothing but credit for trying to make a play, as the risk of not making a play is just as high as throwing a pick in those circumstances.
So to me the people who spent all summer bashing Bruce and his “lucky” Sunday should be the same ones doing the same for Jason, and the people who supported and defended Bruce, should also be doing so for Campbell.
Only it is the polar opposite in here.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Mistic,
It’s really simple. If you think JC is a bonafided NFL starting QB, then let’s do a little wager. I predict he will get yanked again even while healthy. I dont believe there are other bonafided starting QBs in this league like Matt Ryan or Josh Freeman that get yanked while healthy.
Care to do a little friendly wager? Put up or shut up time Mistic.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:39 am
As a matter of fact, I’ll use JFB’s method. I’ll give you a 2-1 odds. Put up or shut up. If you feel that strongly about jC, then this should be cakewalk for you.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:42 am
I will defend anyone who lines up under center for the Oakland Raiders and provides me with W’s… period. No need for discussion.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Thec,
I thought KC didnt allow DMAC to have one of those DMAC days. He avg 5.4 per carry but it was that one big run that improved his avg. They limited him enough early on that Hue went to the air instead. I dont remember DMAC having a good day in terms of moving the chain for first downs. That is why JC was relied upon to win the game for us and as I anticipated he struggled mightily.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:44 am
everytime a “W” goes next to Jason Campbell’s name is like another plateful of D-Con for Ratface in D.C.
and that is a fine fine thing.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:52 am
A lot of “you people” are just like Al Davis. Don’t care about winning, you just care about being right. “I told you so” kinda thing.
It’s all in the ego.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I fear Cable is about to lose his job after this season. Al doesnt like it when people speaks up publicly. I think Cable is setting himself up for his next gig. Especially with Yahoo now leaking that Cable created a new slogan. AD cannot be happy with that. You cannot get more attention or credit than AD.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Prank gone wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1piuJzS7H-4&NR=1
November 11th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Cant wait to see Dmac lay a hit on the Breck girl.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
- Against a good Dallas defense on Thanksgiving Day last year Bruce didn’t look so hot either. So all of these folks talking about how much in trouble the Raiders are in with Jason at QB against the Steelers need to be a little more realistic.
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Exactly!
Grads’ best game was against a Hairamalu-less Pittsburgh D.
Gradkowski is a backup.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:04 am
UnKoolKell I missed making old man diaper wearing jokes about your tired old ass.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:05 am
I fear Cable is about to lose his job after this season.
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WOW!
Just shaking my head at this one.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:08 am
the Raiders have three capable QBs.
Campbell is capable of averageness.
Gradkowski is capable of feistiness.
Boller is capable of impregnating a beauty queen.
how many teams can say that?
November 11th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Bruce’s 78.3 passer rating against Dallas was better than Campbell’s last week, and better than 4 of 6 Campbell’s starts here this season.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
What we got last year in Dallas has been what we have been getting all season between the two QB’s.
Bruce 2009 vs. Dallas QB rating 78.3
Oakland Raiders 2010 QB rating = 79.1
Same shat fellers!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
I was one of the ones wanting to fire Cable. But, to my surprise, he has done a credible job of motivating the team and outside of his bonehead challenges last week, done a good job the last 3 weeks on the sidelines. I am shutting down my web site until he proves otherwise. http://www.firecable.com
November 11th, 2010 at 9:21 am
The reason why it appears cable is doing a better job this year is that he has help. With Hugh Jackson calling teh plays and running the oeeofense Cable can Coach.
Last year he wore too many hats and it was difficult for him but he shouldered all that responsability anyways and did a fair job consdiering.
So there is a big differnece this year in Cables coaching because of his staff.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Bruce’s 78.3 passer rating against Dallas was better than Campbell’s last week, and better than 4 of 6 Campbell’s starts here this season.
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Passer rating?
We scored 7 pts in a national arsse whooping in 1 game, and in the other, we won a crucial division game.
What are we really talking about here?
November 11th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Cant believe we are comparing crappy QB rating with another crappy QB rating . Both QB’s are average at most. But one seems to actually be winning fn games .
November 11th, 2010 at 9:33 am
aig-raiders Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
32.J Hill Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
AIG,
That’s 6 of his 11 completions for the game man. Are you really arguing random completions as a point?
I thought the topic was leading the team? Actually being the one who generated points?
You say Bruce’s best game was the St Louis game. I think I showed you that, as you say, any QB could have led 2 of the scoring drives.
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Hill,
Your statement is any QB could have done it. Ok then answer this….
Why didnt JC produce more than 3 points or at least match with Bruce did in the first half? You said any QB could have done it right? It was the same game, same player, and same opponent
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Hill,
You asked me a question last nite and I responded above. I noticed you ahvent addressed it so I am reposting to make sure you didnt miss it. I look forward to your rebuttal. I gotta get off this blog today but I will check back to see your rebuttal.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:33 am
What are we really talking about here?
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The QB’s statistical impact on the game.
Bruce didn’t get the benefit of a KR for a TD, and a defense that gave up less than 180 yards rushing and got a couple of turnovers.
Campbell got the victory, but as far as his performance on the game as a whole, was not much different than what Bruce did last year on a statistical measure (in fact it was worse).
These are facts.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Did anybody watch the Dallas game, or are we just bean counters in here? Stats are for losers.
Tony Romo and the Cowboys tore our defense apart.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Tony Romo and the Cowboys tore our defense apart.
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Exactly, QB play was the same, rest of the team from McFAdden, defense and even coaching is a night and day difference.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:38 am
J Hill Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 9:03 am
- Against a good Dallas defense on Thanksgiving Day last year Bruce didn’t look so hot either. So all of these folks talking about how much in trouble the Raiders are in with Jason at QB against the Steelers need to be a little more realistic.
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Exactly!
Grads’ best game was against a Hairamalu-less Pittsburgh D.
Gradkowski is a backup.
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Don’t care who was or wasn’t playing for their squad. That was a dogfight and Bruce just kept coming and coming.
In the long run, did it get us into the playoffs or keep the Steelers from going? No, but it was a hell of a game. Classic, really.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I’m great with Campbell as long as he puts up Ws, just like anyone else who would.
I just think the real shame for Bruce is that he hasn’t been able to string together a bunch of starts.
Mainly his own fault this year, with the peck and trying to truck safeties, but the guy is not fragile, he’s just had some bad luck.
I think Bruce would shine given a whole season, but obviously most would disagree.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:41 am
So at just about the half-way point, what other coach in the league deserves more COY accolades than Coach Cable? I think if they held the vote today, he would either win or narrowly lose (maybe the Rams coach or Falcons coach maybe??)
My offseason prediction of him winnning coach of the year is looking solid!!
November 11th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Bruce has to stay healthy, and he just hasn’t been able to do it.
He allowed his starting job to be taken from him, due to not being able to get off the trainer’s table.
Call it bad luck, but he can’t blame it on anything but his own body.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Oakland quarterback Bruce Gradkowski was 18 of 35 for 200 yards and the 4-yard touchdown pass to Heyward-Bey. On that drive, Gradkowski was 5 of 5 for 69 yards, plus a 21-yard scramble, he just couldn’t keep it up.
“There were plays out there to be made early on. We didn’t make them,” Gradkowski said. “I take the blame. I missed a couple early throws on that would have given our team energy.”
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Bruce takes responsibility, keeps guys accountable and is a coach favorite.
If Jason keeps winning, I know we have a more than capable back up. If Jason stinks or gets hurt, I know we have a more than capable starter.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Bruce has to stay healthy, and he just hasn’t been able to do it.
He allowed his starting job to be taken from him, due to not being able to get off the trainer’s table.
Call it bad luck, but he can’t blame it on anything but his own body.
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Well, his MCLs last year can be blamed on the O Line. It was just pathetic and he still finished the half.
His pec is his own fault, pushing too hard.
His shoulder is his own fault, pushing too hard.
I agree. Bruce doesn’t need to prove he can truck guys and needs to realize he is a better asset to his team while healthy.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Holy f**k, you guys are STILL on this?!
November 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am
I always wondered what this place would be like if the Raiders strung together a few wins. And now I know. This s**t is tiresome.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Our D will contain their Run D but it can’t contain it the whole game if were not moving the ball on offense. No matter how good our secondary is Rapelisberger will find guys open downfield to keep the chains moving, that’s just how good he is. Those who want JC to start want Bruce to start for the same reason, because we think he’ll give our team the best chance to win. Bruce I think is the guy that’ll give us a chance to hang w/ Ben Exposehimselfer
November 11th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Bruce is too eager to get back in the game it’s going to be up to Cable to keep him out until he is healthy enough to string together a few games
November 11th, 2010 at 9:52 am
YoungAmerican Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am
I always wondered what this place would be like if the Raiders strung together a few wins. And now I know. This s**t is tiresome.
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You think Colts blogs or Packer blogs would be this way? Forget that we’re not accustomed to winning (at least not lately), but in terms of the QB argument?
Why? Because we have a couple of B- QBs pushing each other right now. If that gets it done, I’m fine.
But until a guy emerges as The Guy, the debate will continue.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:53 am
I hope we draft a qb next year… if for nothing else than to end this damn convo…
November 11th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Really, you don’t think winning teams are debating over a position battle??
Just most good teams don’t have the debate rage on at the QB position.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:55 am
bcz24 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 9:53 am
I hope we draft a qb next year… if for nothing else than to end this damn convo…
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Unless its a Locker or Luck, the guy we’ll get will be in the 3rd round or lower and someone who will not be ready day 1. The debate will be even more heated.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Andy Dalton in the 3rd round!!!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Really, you don’t think winning teams are debating over a position battle??
Just most good teams don’t have the debate rage on at the QB position.
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That’s what I’m saying. Not even ‘good’ teams, just teams with a clear-cut talented starting QB.
There is no controversey in Pittsburgh when Ben is an A and the next guy in line is a C+.
Or Indy, where Peyton is an A++ and Sorgi (not sure who the back up is now, I think Sorgi went to NYG) is a C-.
We have a couple of B- guys, depending on who you talk to, and they’re duking it out.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Just Cut it Loose
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/For-Raiders-just-win-baby-has-turned-into-j?urn=nfl-284289
November 11th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Just wanted to give a shout out and thank you to our Brothers in Silver in Black who have served our country!
Happy Veterans Day!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Okay, so we keep Bruce on the bench and he becomes a FA next year. That would suck. Goes to the Bronco’s and he comes back to haunt us. Goes to K.C., same. Goes to Minn. and becomes a stud. He won’t go to Chicago as long as Martz is there. Miami? He has some great options.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Or Indy, where Peyton is an A++ and Sorgi (not sure who the back up is now, I think Sorgi went to NYG) is a C-.
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Curtis Painter is Mannings back up… he is at BEST a D-… he is terrible. I for one am rooting for Indy to win the next 6 and Tennessee and Houston to drop a few so that in week 16 we face Painter and not Manning.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:04 am
In reality there are only about 5 or 6 teams where the QB position is 100% set. NE INDY PITT MINN DAL etc. The rest of the QB’s in this league are trying to keep their jobs like McNabb, Vick, Schaub, Campbell etc.
So this debate will continue for a while in here people get used to it.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Bruce will be a back-up or on injured reserve no matter where he goes …
November 11th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Apparently, they didn’t include the night crew from here. lol Recent evidence shows that people who thrive at night have higher IQs.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/theweek/20101111/cm_theweek/209165
November 11th, 2010 at 10:10 am
whenever “you people” bring up games or stats from last year it is IRRELEVANT.
last year’s version of the O-line for Oakland was for the most part PUTRID.
this year’s version has become a strong suit of cohesion and mauling.
and, truth be told, only KNUCKLEHEADS would care who is under center for the Raiders. CUT IT LOOSE AND JUST WIN BABY! (<– the two for one motto).
November 11th, 2010 at 10:14 am
ExLA,
there was a comment shared the other night by DaRayduh. a quote from some old sea captain about his crew being “precious rascals”. that made me think of the AM Crew, whereas the PM Crew is usually a group doing unmentionable things below decks in the dark when the captain isn’t looking.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:18 am
M Lonetree,
136 lmfao
November 11th, 2010 at 10:18 am
CABLE SAID :
We have a saying now, to compromise is to fail.
To compromise is to fail WORKS and fits with commitment to Excellence. Just cut it loose does not fit, besides the Seahawks and the Niners already own that phrase.
FEAR THE PIMP HAND
November 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
I still dont understand. is everyone aware that there is no qb controversy? Campbell, a polished qb with 5 years of experience as an nfl starter is your starter. he has proven he can win in division, take you on streaks, and win in a variety of ways. he can lead blow outs and look great, or he can struggle and dig out a win even without his a game. He is the only qb on our roster that can make those claims. Why not get behind him, doesnt it feel good to actually win, instead nearly winning, or losing in a blow out?
Bruce seems like a good locker room guy, and can come in and rescue a game. He is probably one of the top 5-10 back ups in the entire league. he has proven he is great in relief. The idea that he would be a good starter is pure conjecture at this point. I also have not seen any proof that he can lead to a smooth or blow out type of win, although we have seen him win ugly. Winning ugly is needed at times as well.
Stats may not and do not tell the entire story, however i think comparing this years stats to last years stats in oakland is pure folly, if your aim is to determine who the best qb is. You would get a better look at the big picture by comparing stats for career, especially since their careers have about the same amount of years. this allows you to look at clearly established patterns and tendencies, rather than a highlight or blunder reel. comparing career for career there is no question who has had more on the field positive results and production.
The careers that these two have they have earned through their work. everything from their draft status, to their roles as qb in the nfl. nothing has been given, there is no entitlement issue, as we witnessed with jamarcuss.
Fine you have your favorite, but it has been decided. Davis cable and Hu jack know what they are doing.
Time to stop the petty stuff and support your team.
Unless of course you are one of the impostor fans.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:18 am
CABLE SAID :
We have a saying now, to compromise is to fail.
To compromise is to fail WORKS and fits with commitment to Excellence. Just cut it loose does not fit, besides the Seahawks and the Niners already own that phrase.
FEAR THE PIMP HAND
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Definetley don’t want any saying that would associate us with the Seahawks or niners!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:23 am
AIG (ref post 81)
fair enough. I didn’t realize the only reason you thought Pitt had a chance to win was because of the guy playing QB
As I said yesterday, JCamp doesn’t have to be good. He just has to be “good enough” and if this team were in a position where a QB had to put the entire team on his back and WILL it to victory, I don’t think JCamp or the Brucester could get it done
Fortunately, the running game, defense & special teams are top notch and the play calling on both sides of the ball has been outstanding. JCamp is just 1 of 11 guys on offense that needs to do his job on the 21st
and I really don’t think the passing game is as bad as advertised either. I mean DMAC & Reece are huge threats out of the backfield. Zmiller is the best TE in the game and he should be back. our young wides are improving and it seems like a different guy steps up each week. It’ll be interesting to see which WR torches the Squeelers weak secondary, Murphy, Heyward-Bey or Ford. who knows? it could be Johnnie Lee’s turn!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:28 am
YOU PEOPLE need to get into the spirit of giving since Thanksgiving & Christmas are right around the corner.
please give your Polamalu jerseys to a homeless person this week.
They are very humble and you fellas will be too embarrassed to wear them a week from Sunday anyways!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:28 am
I am in full support of Jason, everytime he steps on the field.
But for the sake of a good blog discussion, I tell it as it is. He is a tad too shaky for me at times. Jason at his best is way better than Bruce at his best, but Bruce never has bottomed up like Jason has with these QB ratings in the teens for a half or even a whole game.
I trust whatever it is that Cable does, be it start either one or be prepared to have a quick trigger for one or the other.
But I feel QB (both of them) is one of the weakest areas of our team, and being 28th in the NFL in passer rating proves it.
We are a real-good QB away from a legit Super Bowl contender, IMO. As we are, we are a plucky group, with a great ground game and physical front 7 defensively, a team nobody wants to play, but unless we get great QB play, we can beat just about any team and still maybe lose to just about any team.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:29 am
it could be Johnnie Lee’s turn!
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this comment would be to easy to tear down lol
Anyways Rockstar, off subject: Some of the venison I recieved is way to “gamey”, any suggestions? I have tried diffrent marinades, cooking methods etc;
November 11th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Cable says, “No Knuckleheads!”
good thing he doesn’t run this blog or the sound of crickets would fill this site.
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LOL @ M Lonetree
Ouch!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Cable on Chaz: Im getting excited.
Chaz might be just the tonic JC needs to become a top ten QB in the NFL. D & O are top ten. If the QB joins them, the NFL may as well hand us the VL trophy.
We can save them the hassle of seeing a lot of star players get injured maybe for life in the playoffs
November 11th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Campbell, a polished qb with 5 years of experience as an nfl starter is your starter.
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Mistic, you ARE aware that in those 5 years, Washingtons ONLY playoff appearence was when JC was benched in favor of… gasp… Todd Collins. How many “polished” QBs are dropping 10.7 ratings? Jason Campbell is the best option for the Oakland Raiders right now. I have no question there… but stop acting like the guy walks on water. Dude is still ranked in the mid 20s in the NFL in all major categorys…
November 11th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Hairy, where does “roger” come from?
November 11th, 2010 at 10:33 am
RR I disagree with this. SuperBruce may not go to the pro bowl, let alone stay on the field for more then 3 games in a row but I saw him put the team on his back and win last year.
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November 11th, 2010 at 10:34 am
RRS,
However, I think both defenses will cancel out each other’s run game. I think it comes down to our QB vs their QB in terms of passing. I think Ben will shred us again. Routt will not get the dumb luck like he did last week. Hines Ward and Wallace are legit WR’s in this league. I think JC will look like he did against Tenn, STL, and SF against Pitt’s blitzes.
On top of that, they are gunning for revenge so that is why I dont like our odds.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Some of the venison I recieved is way to “gamey”, any suggestions? I have tried diffrent marinades, cooking methods etc;
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HB,
you have to cut 100 percent of the deer fat off. I mean seriously. leave no stone unturned.
if you are going to grind it and make burger, replace the deer fat with a little beef fat. I aint joking
I’m not a big fan of marinades with steak. I just wrapped it in bacon and sprinkle some seasoning salt and mrs dash on there
November 11th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Hairy, where does “roger” come from?
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Roger is a character that John goodman plays in the “big lebowski”. Everytime I see either Cable or John Goodman I can’t help but to think of the other.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Whats up with Chazarella????His he gonna play in the Pittsburgh game???? To have Nmandi Miller Henderson and Schilens all back thats going to help alot….
November 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
It’s a great Bye week to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
Our QB battle? THREE guys with a lot to prove…and even if JCampbell starts and plays well, it’s still not unfathomable that Boller could see snaps this year.
JCampbell has proven he can play as bad as any QB ever has played…and then throw a strike (even a lucky strike sometimes) to win the game. He can throw the sharpest 4th-down pass you’ll ever see…then turn right around and throw the ball 60-yards downfield, but 5-yards behind his sprinting receiver. If he puts 3 consecutive bad quarters together, he’s likely to be benched. That’s not good for any of us (fans, that is).
Grads throws a beautiful ball…and can throw it 50 yards on-target. But he’s always hurt, like McFadden was always hurt before this run. Grads hasn’t been at the helm of this resurgent team, but at some point he might be brought in to spur it on to more wins. Can he stay sharp — and healthy — for a prolonged period?
At some point, Boller’s honeymoon is going to over (like when he tries to have a conversation with the missus), and he’s going to realize he’s got a career to worry about. Then we’ll start hearing that he “prepares every week to be the starter.” Especially if grads is back in there for some reason.
Unless Grads does things overwhelmingly better than JCampbell in practice…or JCampbell is still struggling with recognition…the risk is higher swapping the two right now, than it is staying with Campbell.
At least through halftime @ Pittsburgh, JCampbell should stay under Center. If he doesn’t get better in some situations, he won’t be staying there long…because we won’t continue to get the “lucky” bounce forever. Best for us as a TEAM is if he doesn’t let go of the starter’s job all year long…and that’ll mean he’ll be playing good football and making good decisions.
Go JCampbell! Or Grads! Please don’t get to Boller! But if you do…go Boller!!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
HB,
Another factor in the gamey taste would be how the deer was handled between it being shot and when it was brought to the processor. If it was over 24 hours on “warm” temperature between the deer’s death and it being hung in the processors cooler, this can also lead to a gamey taste, and there is not really anything you or the butcher can do to remove it
November 11th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Chaz might be just the tonic JC needs to become a top ten QB in the NFL.
I’d love to be wrong but he woudn’t be top ten w/ Michael Irving Jerry Rice Tim Brown and Antonio Gates at TE
November 11th, 2010 at 10:41 am
The thing with chaz is when he’s not injured he can catch the ball real nice and can make defenders miss but he has no chemistry with JC… They need to send both of them on a week long date and just work on timing…
November 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am
AIG
I like you and you bring lots to the blog. Nonetheless I think you give the Stealers too much credit.
Let me ask you this.
How goes the game if SuperBruce starts?
November 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Some of the venison I recieved is way to “gamey”, any suggestions? I have tried diffrent marinades, cooking methods etc;
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HB,
you have to cut 100 percent of the deer fat off. I mean seriously. leave no stone unturned.
if you are going to grind it and make burger, replace the deer fat with a little beef fat. I aint joking
I’m not a big fan of marinades with steak. I just wrapped it in bacon and sprinkle some seasoning salt and mrs dash on there
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I may be out of luck then than. This meat is void of any fat, perhaps it was an old deer or had a diet that wasn’t as balanced and provoked a stronger “gamier” flavor in the meat. I am a chef who has cooked anything and everything and thought I tried everything. Just thought I’d ask you because I know you have experience preparing venison, I was hoping there was some kind of brine or something that would help. I hate to waste, but this meat may be for my yellow lab.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am
KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 8:52 am
A lot of “you people” are just like Al Davis. Don’t care about winning, you just care about being right. “I told you so” kinda thing.
It’s all in the ego.
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Al Davis doesn’t care about winning? You might want to rephrase that. (”At times he seems to place a higher priority on being right, e.g. the whole Kiffin debacle,” perhaps) But ‘doesn’t care about winning’? That’s just wrong.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
HB,
Another factor in the gamey taste would be how the deer was handled between it being shot and when it was brought to the processor. If it was over 24 hours on “warm” temperature between the deer’s death and it being hung in the processors cooler, this can also lead to a gamey taste, and there is not really anything you or the butcher can do to remove it
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good point, I was not there to witness the “handling” as well as the time frame.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Must be a damn slow news day if people here are still talking about the qb thing…
My take – Campbell is average, but he seems to be improving each week. We can win with average if mistakes are minimized. It would be foolish to pull him now. Keep him in there, but on a short leash. If he comes out flat or throws a stupid pick then yank him. Grads is a sprkplug coming off the bench. His tempo, style, energy and cadence are different. I also would like to see him in there when we run the wildcat. Just one more wrinkle for them to to think about.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:45 am
I think Ben will shred us again. Routt will not get the dumb luck like he did last week. Hines Ward and Wallace are legit WR’s in this league.
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AIG,
again? Big Ben is 0-2 against the Raiders man
Last year he threw for 278 yards and 2 TD’s
he also got sacked by Trevor Scott and picked by Hiram Eugene.
his go-to WR was Santonio Holmes, who had 8 catches, 149 yards and a TD
Justin Fargas (who?) had 15 carries for 63 yards and 2 catches for 13 more
November 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
oh, ok
That wont work. I kinda like Tom Goodman Cable but Barney Rubble would be better.
But nothing touches Pimp Hand
November 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
158.Plunketthead Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am
AIG
I like you and you bring lots to the blog. Nonetheless I think you give the Stealers too much credit.
Let me ask you this.
How goes the game if SuperBruce starts?
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Plunkett, I think Bruce will prob lose too. I dont think Bruce will look silly out there like JC will. I think you will see a 10.7 JC out there against Pitt. He was already on his way to that type of game against KC until Ford saved his bacon.
I love my Raiders but I am writing off 2 games for the remainder of the season. This is one of them.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
HB,
Curry powder always works to lessen some of the gamey flavor of wild ungulates.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Inone
I fear I would have to agree or see a changed QB the next few weeks
November 11th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Time to stop the petty stuff and support your team.
Unless of course you are one of the impostor fans.
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Sorry Mistic, I do support my team, and I am a fan’s fan. I get injured WATCHING games, homie. The whole neighborhood knew how good a throw Campbell made and how great a catch Ford made in OT cause they heard me shouting at the top of my lungs.
That being said, I don’t have blind loyalty to anything.
The only place there is no QB controversey is in your mind. Cable wants Gradkowski. He may be sticking with the hot hand, but it was a far cry from “Jason’s the guy.”
Sorry, dude.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:49 am
SINCE we keep talking about last year . Lets have Gannon start next week since he was so great in 2002.He did great that year so that has to be relevant to this year right?
November 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
HB,
Curry powder always works to lessen some of the gamey flavor of wild ungulates.
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I agree, just haven’t fully warmed up to the flavor of curry yet.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
I just dont see Pittsburgh’s offense doing much against our defense…Pitts o-line is all messed up and there recievers are good but not great…Ward has good hands but has lost a couple steps and wallace is coming up but not yet a superstar threat… Its gonna be another great game
November 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
RRS,
Do you agree that both teams will cancell out each other’s run game? You think we will run on them. I dont.
Last year Ben had no trouble scoring on us. I think it will be the same this year. I am not confident in either routt or CJ. CJ gets burned too often. Routt is a defensive version of JLH…brain farrrrtt.
Last year, Ben lost because Bruce had a career game against their D. Plus I think they looked down on us and we surprised them. Again, I will wish for a win but preparing myself mentally for a loss.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:51 am
HD37 154 is very well stated.
November 11th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
oh, ok
That wont work. I kinda like Tom Goodman Cable but Barney Rubble would be better.
But nothing touches Pimp Hand
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those are all pretty good
November 11th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Mendenhall had 20 carries for 103 yards and a score.
Ward 6 grabs for 77 yards and a score.
Heath Miller 1 for 27.
Mike Wallace 2 for 19.
Lamarr Woodley had 2 sacks, but their Defense forced ZERO turnovers
yeah … I’m not worried
Holmes ripped us apart and we still kept Ben under 300 yards. 2 weeks later Ben threw for more than 500 yards against C Wood & Al Harris in Green Bay!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Aig
From what we have seen the first nine games I would say the odds are probaly about 50/50 on JC coming out “flat”.
I believe the bye week gets us healthy, focused and prepped for a team that plays a real tough game this Sunday.
The D will have to step up with turnovers and score 6 themselves. Same with the special teams. Our secondary is really starting to jell.
Teams in great shape for the stretch run and they will beat Pitt despite a flat day from JC
November 11th, 2010 at 10:57 am
the following guys played against Pittsburgh last year and we won:
Grads, Fargas, Watkins, Stewart, Henderson, Green, Morrison, Richardson, Warren & Joseph. Gary Russell was our kick returner!
LOL
somebody play that song “lemme upgrade ya” by Beyonce for AIG!
November 11th, 2010 at 10:58 am
MD36 you are absolutely right about that ridiculous post by KK. It also qualifies for its own:
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
KoolKell Says:
A lot of “you people” are just like Al Davis. Don’t care about winning, you just care about being right. “I told you so” kinda thing.
It’s all in the ego.
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Umm, yes KK, it is all in the ego for YOU, isn’t it?
You call yourself a fan…yet won’t buy a ticket, won’t buy a hat, won’t buy bumper sticker from your local vendors (which would support that city you say Al ruined).
But…you live on this forum, while pointing-out that other people live on this forum…all the while claiming to be a fan. Best (worst) of all, you proclaim your absolute joy when the Raiders lose, so your vendetta against Al will appear more justified.
KK — You NEED to be able to say “I told you so” to justify your existence. Yes, it is about ego, KK. Yours!
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
November 11th, 2010 at 11:00 am
I don’t think the Steelers are nearly good enough to scribble down an “L” on the schedule before the game is even played.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Pro Bowler Casey Hampton had 1 tackle last year!
good work Samson!
how is Pittsburgh different on offense besides losing the guy that torched our secondary last year?
please explain how Big Ben is going to “shred us again” ???
and you admit that Mendenhall is going nowhere against us, so take 100 yards rushing and a TD off the board for the Squeelers
they don’t stand a chance!
November 11th, 2010 at 11:03 am
RRS,
I hate it when we lose. I fricking think about it for a few days and can’t sleep at nite. That’s how much it bothers me. And that is why I am mentally preparing myself for losing this game.
Pitt this year is vastly improved over Pitt last year. You’re refusing to admit that. They went 6-2 while having 3 diff QB’s. They lead the league at 58 yds per rushing game allowed. Frankly, they didnt take us serious last year and got caught. MOst people in America ranks them as a top 3 team if not 1 or 2. Only in this blog that hardcore Raider fans rank them as a nobody.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Chili, HB — Brown with lots and lots of onions and peppers and LOTS of oil to make up for the fat that’s not there.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Raider Dell Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
3.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 9th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
repost:
So KoolKell, do you give him credit for the turnaround this year as his draftees are producing including Mike Mitchell who the coaches wanted to cut? Or are you also embittered to the point of no return.
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If the Raiders are winning, I’m good with everybody. But specificlly for this turnaround, I’m giving the coaches credit for putting players in the best position to win.
After opening 2-4 and going nowhere, it seems to me that the offensive and defensive playcalling has been a lot more agressive and less predictable. Indicating to me, they’ve been Freed, to do their thing, instead of Al’s predictable thing.
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So let me get this straight, KK.
The Raiders current succcess is on the coaches who are freed up, from what. Where is your source of this brilliant discovery of yours. Are you in contact with the coaches? How do you know then.
Next point. You have no clue to who hired the coaches, yet you know, their freed up to coach due to Davis not involved in any decisions.
Who is paying the coaches, KK. Answer Davis.
So when the Raiders lose it’s on Davis, yet when they win, the coaches are freed up.
So let me guess here, the players who are drafted by Davis are schit, but when the coaches are freed up to coach, they get better.
KK, you are delusional. KK, please go back and reminise about the 60’s and 70’s, your lookin like a fool at this time.
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This is what a HYPOCRITE is, my response to KK, and nothing back.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Our team is much better than last year.
We were 3-8 going into that game. Besides the personel that RRS already expertly pointed out, the team mentality is much, much better.
AIG keeps saying he hopes we win but thinks Jason will lay an egga nd we’ll probably lose (already lost in his mind).
Mistic keeps saying he hopes we’ll win, Jason’s the clear-cut starting QB, but our O Line is awful and we’ll likely lose regardless of QB.
I think there are 51 other guys (including Condo…. BO) and a bunch of coaches that I really hope are a bit more confident.
We have an extra week to prepare. They’re banged up on O Line and their best run defender is out.
With Murphy back, we can go to more 3 WR looks and run the ball against a 2-4-5 defense.
We have Marcel Reece, who is emerging as a real threat.
We have McFadden who is comeback player of the year.
We have a much improved O Line.
I think on paper, it’s a dog fight waiting to happen.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Pittsburgh is a real good team but I dont see why we couldnt beat them….Ther’s holes in every team and we jus have to focus on those holes and tear them apart slowly…We have the squad to beat them we just have to show up and do it
November 11th, 2010 at 11:12 am
I think the defense is more Al Davis like during the win streak than during the 2-4 stint that preceded it. I pointed that out to Kell the other day (yesterday?).
They were playing way more zone, read ad react. Now they’re attacking, playing a lot of bump and run.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Let’s go back a little further, shall we?
Rewind back to 2006 with Andrew Walter as QB for Tom Walsh’s B&B offense …
Big Ben threw for 301 yards and 1 TD (to Willie Parker)
he also got sacked 5 times and threw 4 INT’s!
Tommy Kelly got him twice. 2 of those INT’s were returned for TD’s
Troy P had 5 tackles. Schweigert had 4. haha
he didn’t make any plays. no tackles for a loss, forced fumbles, sacks or INT’s. this was his 4th year in the league
November 11th, 2010 at 11:12 am
RRS nailed it earlier when he said the Raiders are as physical as Pittsburgh.
The physicality of our team will allow us to battle any team in the League. There isn’t another team out there that wants to face the Raiders right now.
I say the Raiders punch the Steelers hard and often, and after 3 quarters the Steelers will be the team staggering. Providing we get some adequate QB play, of course.
Raiders 27 – 17 Steelers
November 11th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Plunk,
You are correct on that 50/50 flat analysis. However, look at when he is flat. He’s flat when DMAC is not tearing it up and the D not creating turnovers. Even against Sea, Cable thought JC struggled in the first half. That was supposed to be his best game of the year.
That is why I predict he will suck against Pitt. They will limit DMAC and then JC will look lost against those blitzes.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
the Squeelers haven’t beat us since 2003 when Bill Cowher & Tommy Maddox lead that team.
Bill Callahan & Rick Mirer lead ours!
LOL
they also had Jerome Bettis, Plaxico Burress and Hwnrdr’s boy Kimo von Oelhoffen!
November 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
LA,
Do you expect us to go undefeated for the rest of the season? If not, then where are the trouble spots?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
It kills me to see so-called RAIDER fans not supportive of players who are involved in winning efforts. Get off Bruce’s jock a minute and realize what JC has done lately.
Was Bruce a good upgrade to Jamarcus Russell…. Undoubtedly!! We beat Pittsburgh … but they were sucking hardcore at the end of the season and we were 1 team out of 6 that beat them consecutively!!! They had lost 4 straight before us, then one after. So don’t crown him the King for one game’s efforts. I was happy with Bruce, no doubt … but I know he’s not a great QB by no means. If he were, do you think the Raiders would have went out to get Campbell in the first place?
Campbell is in a new system with new players and it’s going to take him longer to get used to them and did not deserve to be yanked from the Rams game. He has consistently played better every week and aside from the 49er’s game, has filled the role of QB better than any Raider QB since Gannon. You want to criticize him for a poor showing against the Chiefs? Compare him to Peyton Manning vs the Chiefs. Campbell faired better.
You want to say the Raiders won Sunday in spite of JC? Wrong. You want to say it takes him too long to make reads? Wrong. Realize number one, we didn’t have our best playmakers on the field. The first half was wet and miserable and nobody offensively played worth ****.
There was an oppurtunity for Ford in the first half, but he dropped an easy one that Campbell laid out for him. Now, all credit to Jacoby for stealing the ball from Flowers and for returning the punt, but two plays imparticular was all because of Campbell’s read. The catch where Ford goes to his knees … Campbell reads one on one and that the DB has the outside, so he throws it to the inside where only Ford can make a play on it. The second play in OT where the D lines up in Quarters, JC reads that defense and realizes that they have to go to man and puts the ball deep inside where no DB can get to it. Jacoby did a good job in catching it, but that was because of Jason Campbell’s read.
It’s no secret … we’re a great running team and our QB’s do benefit because of their efforts, and AS ALWAYS we win when we run… that’s no secret!!! It’s been the same since Jordan was our #1 RB.
However, don’t discount JC’s ability to play because of your misplaced faith in a QB that “looked better than Russell” because even I could have showed more heart at QB than Russell. We have a great team, but a disfunctional fan base. Too bad we can’t fire fans.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:23 am
aig-raiders Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:18 am
LA,
Do you expect us to go undefeated for the rest of the season? If not, then where are the trouble spots?
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No, I can’t say that. But I’m rather superstitious, so I don’t call scores or predict Ws or Ls or anything like that.
I try to identify what the keys to victory will be and what needs to be limited/eliminated to prevent losing.
Every game in the NFL is a trouble spot.
With the kind of mentality you have, the Cleveland Browns would be licking their wounds after getting rocked by the Patriots right now.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Sorry Mistic, I do support my team, and I am a fan’s fan. I get injured WATCHING games, homie. The whole neighborhood knew how good a throw Campbell made and how great a catch Ford made in OT cause they heard me shouting at the top of my lungs.
That being said, I don’t have blind loyalty to anything.
The only place there is no QB controversey is in your mind. Cable wants Gradkowski. He may be sticking with the hot hand, but it was a far cry from “Jason’s the guy.”
Sorry, dude.
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Yeah. Some other Cable guys: Kwame Harris, Justin Fargas and Hirame Eugene. Thank God for Al.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:24 am
the biggest reasons Raider fans think we’ll lose to the Squeelers is because of Big Ben & Troy P.
all those guys have known against Oakland is failure.
Ben = 3 TD’s and 5 INT’s. sacked 6 times
Troy = non factor
the Raiders are confident rolling into this game.
they won’t give the Squeelers half the amount of respect AIG does.
look at that Pitt OL. did they get Kwame Harris on the phone yet? the Raiders Defensive front seven will be renamed “the wrecking crew” after the damage they cause a week from Sunday
November 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Raider Jon Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
…..There was an oppurtunity for Ford in the first half, but he dropped an easy one that Campbell laid out for him. Now, all credit to Jacoby for stealing the ball from Flowers and for returning the punt, but two plays imparticular was all because of Campbell’s read. The catch where Ford goes to his knees … Campbell reads one on one and that the DB has the outside, so he throws it to the inside where only Ford can make a play on it. The second play in OT where the D lines up in Quarters, JC reads that defense and realizes that they have to go to man and puts the ball deep inside where no DB can get to it. Jacoby did a good job in catching it, but that was because of Jason Campbell’s read.
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Oh effin me. Mistic has recreated himself as Raider Jon.
1. I noticed you mentioned opps in the first half and blamed it on Ford but you never mentioned the fleaflicker.
2. Cable said it was an interception that was wrestled away. Ford said it was an interception that was wrestled away.
But why let facts get in the way right?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Yeah. Some other Cable guys: Kwame Harris, Justin Fargas and Hirame Eugene. Thank God for Al.
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Debo, do you really want to start naming “Al guys”?
I’ll just put one up there and we’ll leave it at that and you’ll stand corrected…….. again.
1. JaMarcus Russell.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:31 am
If Bruce Gradkowski, were named Bruce Williams, I doubt we’d be having this long tired convo, by “you people”.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
LA,
I’m calling it ahead. Pitt and Ind/SD. We will lose 2 of out of those 3 and win the rest. I predicted we’d be 4/5 at this juncture. I am only 1 game off.
What gets me is we play a heavy favorite in their house and you all act like Pitt is a bottom dweller. You act like a bunch of rightwing idiots that needs a litmus test on if someone is hardcore repub enough. I’m done with this conversation. You all have a good week and I will see you all on gameday. I have already archived all your posts. Judgement day against Pitt and let’s see who eats whose words.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Yeah. Some other Cable guys: Kwame Harris, Justin Fargas and Hirame Eugene. Thank God for Al.
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Debo, do you really want to start naming “Al guys”?
I’ll just put one up there and we’ll leave it at that and you’ll stand corrected…….. again.
1. JaMarcus Russell.
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Right guy, wrong supporting cast. Would like to have seen him with two new tackles a revamped defense and WRs who can run routes and catch. Oh, and having Hue Jackson might help too.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Jon,
Why is misplaced if my faith goes into Gradkowski and well placed it it goes to Campbell?
As long as they both have my support, what does it matter? Sh;t, even that doesn’t matter. As long as one of them wins, I don’t care.
This is a blog. It’s all opinion.
What success has Campbell had? Why did Shanahan feel he had to upgrade him? Why was he traded for a 4th rounder? Why was he benched after 6 quarters?
I won’t be ignorant and say we’ve won 4/5 and 3 in a row despite him, but I don’t see the record being any different with Bruce.
We have kept teams to like 6/42 on 3rd down in the last 3 weeks. KC had five 3rd and 1s or less and didn’t convert on any of them. How many rushing yards do we have in those three games? For the year?
How much success has Campbell had in the red zone vs. Bruce? More, less… the same?
I just don’t do the blind thing.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Richard Seymour has shown his linemates what it is to be physical at the point of attack, and to carry an attitude that says, “Bring it on, I’ll shove it down your throat.” They are doing it all game long.
There isn’t an O-line in the League that can take the pressure the Raiders now offer from their constantly rotating D-line.
The last few games, RMcClain’s been every bit as good as we could hope as a rookie…and he’s getting better all the time. With a stable middle-infield, the Raiders D-line can flex their bada$$ attitudes.
With some steady play coming from the Safety positions, this Defense shows all the signs of one that can be great.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Right guy, wrong supporting cast. Would like to have seen him with two new tackles a revamped defense and WRs who can run routes and catch. Oh, and having Hue Jackson might help too.
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I wouldn’t. Are you seriously blaming his supporting cast? Stop making excuses for the guy.
He didn’t care, didn’t know the playbook, was addicted to codeine, was self absorbed, didn’t take any responsibility, still doesn’t, is unemployed and is “too good” for the UFL.
Wow.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Lamar Houston holds his edge, and consistently drives the RT into the backfield, closing the escape hatch, and trapping the QB inside for the DT’s.
Right now he’s only a Bull Rusher, but a very powerful one.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:37 am
aig-raiders Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
LA,
I’m calling it ahead. Pitt and Ind/SD. We will lose 2 of out of those 3 and win the rest. I predicted we’d be 4/5 at this juncture. I am only 1 game off.
What gets me is we play a heavy favorite in their house and you all act like Pitt is a bottom dweller. You act like a bunch of rightwing idiots that needs a litmus test on if someone is hardcore repub enough. I’m done with this conversation. You all have a good week and I will see you all on gameday. I have already archived all your posts. Judgement day against Pitt and let’s see who eats whose words.
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Lol, calm down and archive this:
The Steelers are a good team. Top 5 this year. I also think the Raiders are a good team and have as good a chance to win this game as any other as long as they’re prepared and execute.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:38 am
you all act like Pitt is a bottom dweller. You act like a bunch of rightwing idiots that needs a litmus test on if someone is hardcore repub enough. I’m done with this conversation
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whoa. hold on there. I never called the Steelers a bottom dweller! I just don’t think they stand a chance against us in Week 11. I have posted facts and stats to back up my opinions and so have you.
I don’t see why politics need to be brought up!
I enjoy a good football debate on Jerry Mac’s blog every now and again
November 11th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I hate you people!
You people = KoolKell
November 11th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Good Morning Nation!!! and Happy Veterans Day to you all!
I see the debate between Grads and JC is still going on…
Rockstar…that Pitt loss in 2003 was after the SB, right? Was it Rick Mirer who qb’d that Raider team and then it got ugly in the 2nd half? And yes, Kimo Van O was the center than…lol
November 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Rockstar…that Pitt loss in 2003 was after the SB, right?
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yup, when we went from Champs to Chumps
it took a while, but now the Raiders are back on the RISE!
November 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Rockstar how the hell does Pitt being a bottom dweller translate to a Democrat or Republican argument LMAO
Whats new Rockstar
November 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am
RRS is forgetting the game we lost to the Steelers in Pittsburgh though.
Think we played them pretty close though.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Hwnrdr,
Kimo von Oelhoffen = Hawaii’s finest
he had 3 sacks in that game against us!
November 11th, 2010 at 11:43 am
HB,
Make sausage out of the venison. That will give you some needed fat and lots of seasoning.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Interesting as always.
See you guys in the PM sesh.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I remember it being close in the first qtr…then I turned off the radio (I was working that day)…but since then, we have beaten them what, twice, three times? Not sure anymore, but I do know that one in ‘06 when Andrew Walter had a net passing of 16 yards, but Nnamdi took one back for a TD and then Carr took one 100 yards to the HOUSE! and that year, ESPN had blamed Cowher for letting Big Ben play after he suffered a concussion…lol…he almost brought the team back in the final seconds…
November 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Whats new Rockstar
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deer season (rifle) opens on Saturday and i’m going to be a dad in less than 2 weeks
and the Raiders are back. life is good!
whats new 4 u silver?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
LA to TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Right guy, wrong supporting cast. Would like to have seen him with two new tackles a revamped defense and WRs who can run routes and catch. Oh, and having Hue Jackson might help too.
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I wouldn’t. Are you seriously blaming his supporting cast? Stop making excuses for the guy.
He didn’t care, didn’t know the playbook, was addicted to codeine, was self absorbed, didn’t take any responsibility, still doesn’t, is unemployed and is “too good” for the UFL.
Wow.
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Let’s see. The supporting cast has everything to do with our resurgence this year and nothing to do with Jason Campbell. But last year, it was all on JR. Make up your mind! Honestly, are you a chick or a dude?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
RRS is forgetting the game we lost to the Steelers in Pittsburgh though.
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Am I?
2003
2006
2009
what other year in between did we face the Squeelers?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Sorry, did I say Center…my bad…yeah, he was the one that rolled on Carlson Palmer’s knee that year in the playoffs on their way to #5 against Seattle! Sorry about that…
November 11th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Rockstar
I hope you allow your kid to have contact with the outside world, and break “that” cycle.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Peering into my Black & Silver ball, I see:
The Raiders D-line will dominate the Steelers O-line next week…including one particular rookie who many in here were screaming for us to draft last April.
The Steelers will not hold up under the same kind of pressure they are used to dishing-out. Big Ben will be harrassed all day long, and his receivers won’t be able to escape the coverage so easily. He may throw for a TD or two, but I think he throws as many INT’s as TD’s next week…like an INT to ice the game.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it!?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:49 am
2002, but that was the year that Gannon and crew blew them out in Pitt! 2003, again in Pitt we lost, then ‘06 and last year was victorious!
November 11th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I hope you allow your kid to have contact with the outside world, and break “that” cycle.
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Kell,
I don’t get it. what are you telling me?
November 11th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I think at full strentgh, we can definitely beat Pittsburgh. I wouldn’t be surprised to see our run game have a lot of success either. I just hope we’re at full strength. This Zach Miller injury sounds serious and I think we’ll need Nnamdi to.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Then again, 2003 the team played scared as hell and it somehow lasted 7 years!
November 11th, 2010 at 11:52 am
November 11th, 2010 at 11:54 am
AIG – Not going to respond to most of what you’re saying because I think you’re secretly a Chief’s fan. However, I said to give Ford credit for taking the ball away from Flowers… never said he didn’t. Think before you act.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Not going to respond to most of what you’re saying because I think you’re secretly a Chief’s fan
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LOL!
Come on RJ, AIG is a good dude and a Raider fan thru & thru
I just think he has a 2nd favorite team and he may have put some money on that team in Week 11
November 11th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Why didnt JC produce more than 3 points or at least match with Bruce did in the first half? You said any QB could have done it right? It was the same game, same player, and same opponent
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Sorry for the delay, lol.
I’m just looking at the play by play and flow of the game man. It’s hard to review this with you since we can’t look at the plays together and your just going off memory.
If you recall, there was a failed 4th and 1 attempt inside the 5 yd line. That coulda should woulda been points.
The point is, you saying you thought the Stl game was Grads’ best game this year. There is no arguing that on 2 of the scoring drives, Jason Campbell could have very well done the same thing.
Why didn’t he do it in the first half of the game? What does that matter? He didn’t “do it” in the first half of the KC game and we won it in the 2nd half.
I too called for JC to be benched. It was right after that slide 2 yds short of the first down. With that said, I can simply admit that he is playing better. Perfect? Above average? Maybe not, but he is certainly not the stiff you make him out to be, lol.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Jhill,
bust out the film mayne
we got some Pro Bowl beer drinkers in here!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
IS ED “TO-TALL” JONES,TO TALL ?
November 11th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Here’s something interesting and I apologize if someone has posted this already…but is ESPN trying to start the SI curse, or have they flipped their lids? Interesting, though…
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=kreidler/101111
November 11th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Morning Dirt Lot…yeah, that was funny! Gotta give it to Geico…lol
November 11th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Big Ben has got to be one of the most accurate passers in the league, in all directions and distances.
Never know where Troy Polamahu will line up. That will cause Campbell to blow all his first half timeouts in the first qtr trying to get lined up properly.
Dick LaBeau’s exotic schemes and the unconventional ways they line up, is going to be very difficult for the O-line protection calls, and run-blocking calls.
Hines Ward is a Killer.
At the rate the Raiders are piling up concussions, James Harrison comes at a really bad time. lol
The good news is that the Raider lines are much improved.
We’ll see. It’s nice to have a the bye before Pittsburgh, because they’re so different from everybody else on Defense.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Let’s see. The supporting cast has everything to do with our resurgence this year and nothing to do with Jason Campbell. But last year, it was all on JR. Make up your mind! Honestly, are you a chick or a dude?
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Debo,
The black & whiteness of your assumptions are rather alarming, not in that you put words in others’ mouths on a blog, but that you probably think in these sorts of terms in your everyday life. Scary.
I never said the reason for our resurgance was just the supporting cast. I will credit scheme, coaching and mentality before I credit supporting cast.
I never said Jason had nothing to do with it.
All I can say about Russell is that
1. He’s awful
2. With the same supporting cast, Bruce doubled the offensive production.
You can say, well ‘Bruce had Chaz and Russell didn’t,’ but that just sounds like another excuse from you. Fact is, players recognize this stuff.
They see it when a guy falls asleep in meetings, doesn’t take his job seriously, parties, doesn’t take responsibility, and just flat out doesn’t care.
Chaz praised scrub Charlie Frye and had ‘no comment’ regarding Russell’s play. Didn’t go to Russell’s eating camp, er, passing camp last year. he worked out with Jeff Garcia.
Russell was a terrible player. Deal with it.
I’m very concerned we’re even having this conversation, as again, this ‘logic’ of yours is probably applied to your everyday life.
I stayed longer than I should to address your post. If you want, we can get into it further later.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
IS ED “TO-TALL” JONES,TO TALL ?
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LOL
6′9″ 271 lbs DE ???
Jared Veldheer could handle him!
he’s 6′8″ 312 lbs
November 11th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Bruce didn’t get the benefit of a KR for a TD, and a defense that gave up less than 180 yards rushing and got a couple of turnovers.
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LOL!
Cmon JFB, if I would’ve said something like that about Jamarcus ….
November 11th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Big Ben has got to be one of the most accurate passers in the league, in all directions and distances.
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Kell,
Ben is a huge sack of trash both on & off the field
Raiders 28
R@pists 10
Print That
November 11th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I think Bruce would shine given a whole season, but obviously most would disagree.
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Now if you would have said “last” instead of “given”, then I’d be right there with you. The way this defense is playing and the running game to go with it, I could see Bruce staying out of the way of that.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Ben makes Steve McNair look like a role model!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Big Ben has got to be one of the most accurate passers in the league, in all directions and distances.
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Kell,
Ben is a huge sack of trash both on & off the field
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Ben is NOT a sack of trash on the field. Let’s start by recognizing reality.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Richard Seymour is our minister of defense. our version of Reggie White
Kell, are you finally willing to root for what you call a “Bible thumper” ???
November 11th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
I think we can line up man to man and beat these guys. I can’t see their 2 DL defense working against us. The key IMO is to be patient.
This might actually be a game where Marcel Reese doesn’t get as much action. We need the 3rd WR and 2nd TE on the field to match up one on one with their LBs or S.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Jhill,
how do you gameplan for Khalif Barnes inside the 5?
November 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Big Ben has got to be one of the most accurate passers in the league, in all directions and distances.
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He’s going to have to be. Our corners are playing TIGHT man on the WRs and the pass rush is right there week in and week out.
As long as we don’t get cute with that zone BS, we’ll be fine.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
LOL you guys are funny !
November 11th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Richard Seymour is our minister of defense. our version of Reggie White
Kell, are you finally willing to root for what you call a “Bible thumper” ???
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Skip the nonsense.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Surely gives the defense something to think about RRS.
Lane should be wide open for the QB to walk in next time.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
As long as we don’t get cute with that zone BS, we’ll be fine.
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Agreed!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Never know where Troy Polamahu will line up.
Dick LaBeau’s exotic schemes and the unconventional ways they line up, is going to be very difficult for the O-line protection calls, and run-blocking calls.
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Force the action and go 2 TE. We have to stay committed to running the ball. Even out of the 3 WR set.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Skip the nonsense.
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it’s true, Kell
Richard Seymour is a devout Christian. he even has a praying hands tattoo on his arm and has a foundation for kids to learn about God
rooting against him now?
Funny thing is he’s known for being a dirty player around the league and he plays angry!
Rick Seymour = Raiders Reggie White
November 11th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
The Raiders D-line will dominate the Steelers O-line next week
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We simply have to.
Will be one of the weaker Olines we have faced to date so this matchup is the key to the whole thing.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
I remember when Gannon/Raiders beat the Steelers by spreading them out and hitting quick short passing routes essentially using the short pass as a hand-off
November 11th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
the Squeelers will be keeping RB’s and TE’s inside to help block and give Ben a little time to throw … this will really limit their offense and we still have one of the league’s best secondaries
I’m not worried!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
I remember when Gannon/Raiders beat the Steelers by spreading them out and hitting quick short passing routes essentially using the short pass as a hand-off
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the West Coast offense under Gannon was a thing of beauty!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Jon,
Why is misplaced if my faith goes into Gradkowski and well placed it it goes to Campbell?
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Nothing against anyone who supports the TEAM’S effort. Don’t take it out of context… the blind faith for Gradkowski is given because he played better than Jamarcus Russell. Other than a second half game where Darren McFadden ran for 145 yards.
Same game (with Campbell in), we get the ball in the red zone and run it 4 straight times and don’t get a first down and turn the ball over rather than putting points on the board.
Next drive 3rd & 1, and McFadden loses 3 yards – Janikowski misses FG.
The interception… was like 30 seconds on the clock and was a forced pass to try to make something happen. Was a bad choice. BUT… the offense was doing anything – not because of Campbell. We fell short on 3rd & 1 twice, and 4th & 1 at the goal line because of our RB’s. Campbell had not thrown the ball horribly and had kept drives going running for first downs, so my mind … didn’t deserve to be yanked in the first place.
Bruce’s TD pass to Murphy was a HORRIBLE pass. Murphy fortunately runs back under it to give us the TD. Had we done the same thing in the first half at the 6 yard line, who knows how the game would’ve turned out.
Why write all this? This is the ONLY game that you can say Bruce might have won for us. And he almost was the reason for us losing it. He threw an int that gave them the ball to make it 16-14 and then we got fortunate with the roughing the passer call. Go forward to the Texans game … Bruce is responsible for 2 ints, and 2 fumbles … we lose by 7.
We’ve won 3 straight with Campbell and you want to put Bruce back in? Keep chanting Bruce man… but I’ll keep calling it blind faith. It’s all about what have you done for me lately.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
the West Coast offense under Gannon was a thing of beauty!
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Didn’t like it.
Couldn’t wait to get that stiff Gannon outta there and get a QB with a real arm.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
With that unconventional high pressure Pittsburgh Defense, you need to be able to read quickly on the fly. Yet Campbell, and his rookie WR’s aren’t very good at that.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
IS ED “TO-TALL” JONES,TO TALL ?
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No, but he’s TOO TALL. The questions are:
Does Robert have De Niro?
Was Marvin Gaye?
Did Lucille Ball?
November 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Kell,
we have 1 rookie WR and he destroyed the 1st place Chiefs last week.
why so negative today?
November 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
KK still babbling nonsense
unconventional high pressure Pittsburgh Defense
What is so unconventional about a 3-4 defense?
Tard!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Didn’t like it.
Couldn’t wait to get that stiff Gannon outta there and get a QB with a real arm.
Not pretty but effective vs Pitt
November 11th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Does Robert have De Niro?
Was Marvin Gaye?
Did Lucille Ball?
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sounds like the Dems questionaire that made Prez BO the favorite to run against John McCain
funny thing is he never answered the questions, just talked in circles
November 11th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Kell,
we have 1 rookie WR and he destroyed the 1st place Chiefs last week.
why so negative today?
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Feel free to sing kumbaya all day, ok?
November 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
It isn’t that the Steelers defense is so COMPLEX it’s that they draft good athletes they constantly apply pressure to teh QB and shed blocks better than most teams.
Football is blocking and tackling it’s not complex schemes that win games.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
What is so unconventional about a 3-4 defense?
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all 3 AFC West foes run a 3-4 defense and we handled them pretty well
I’m not worried!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
guys like DeLawrence Grant, Tyler Brayton, Travian Smith & Sam Williams would be Pro Bowlers in Pittsburgh
it’s not the players. it’s all Dick Lebeau
November 11th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
RR I was talking to KK
November 11th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
How many people in here think the Steelers run a 3-4 defense?
November 11th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
So far this year in our rain games SFO and the first half of the KC game Jason Campbell QB rating has been around 9.
Sun came out at the coliseum and his QB rating went up to around 107. Maybe the guy just can’t see, play, grip the ball in raining/wet weather.
It would be nice to be able to look at his record at Auburn and WAS to see it this is a trend or an anomaly.
Kudos to Jason for getting it done in the 2nd half and OT.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
next Raider game
opening kick-off goes to Ford at the 5. he returns to the 32 but the Raiders are called for holding so the drive starts at the 18.
first play is a quick slant to DHB which Campbell throws at his feet incomplete.
next play DHB clears a space with a slant and go up the seam taking CB and S with him allowing Reece to catch and run in the clear for 21 yards.
next play McF runs right but is strung out for a loss of one.
next play McF runs over left tackle for a gain of three.
next play Campbell, under pressure, throws the ball away.
Lechler into punt pins the Steelers deep.
And it is GAME ON!
November 11th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
RRS 255: you simply could not cover all those dudes. I used to yell that at my tv every game: “you can’t cover us fools!!!!!” then laugh hysterically/manically.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
How many people here think KK knows anything about football. This is the same guy who thought Mike Shanahan invented the cut blocking system.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
sounds like the Dems questionaire that made Prez BO the favorite to run against John McCain
funny thing is he never answered the questions, just talked in circles
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No, the funny thing is you think your “kind” (repubs) can govern but all they can do is win elections with lies to the stupid.
November 11th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
This is the first time in a while that I felt like we had the coaches to actually gameplan/scheme effectively for an opponent. I think we are going to ABUSE big Ben like a drunk college coed. And I have some confidence that HueJ will come up some things to give our O a chance.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Debo,
The black & whiteness of your assumptions are rather alarming, not in that you put words in others’ mouths on a blog, but that you probably think in these sorts of terms in your everyday life. Scary.
I never said the reason for our resurgance was just the supporting cast. I will credit scheme, coaching and mentality before I credit supporting cast.
I never said Jason had nothing to do with it.
All I can say about Russell is that
1. He’s awful
2. With the same supporting cast, Bruce doubled the offensive production.
You can say, well ‘Bruce had Chaz and Russell didn’t,’ but that just sounds like another excuse from you. Fact is, players recognize this stuff.
They see it when a guy falls asleep in meetings, doesn’t take his job seriously, parties, doesn’t take responsibility, and just flat out doesn’t care.
Chaz praised scrub Charlie Frye and had ‘no comment’ regarding Russell’s play. Didn’t go to Russell’s eating camp, er, passing camp last year. he worked out with Jeff Garcia.
Russell was a terrible player. Deal with it.
I’m very concerned we’re even having this conversation, as again, this ‘logic’ of yours is probably applied to your everyday life.
I stayed longer than I should to address your post. If you want, we can get into it further later.
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Did it with the same supporting cast?? That line is so played out. Chaz did indeed make a huge difference, just like he has this year. Has any team ever been successful in the passing game starting two rookies at WR? Before you go any further answer that for me. And I’m being nice when I say rookies. There’s a real question in my mind how good Louis Murphy and DHB will ever be. To me, the real issue last year was that DHB was forced on JaMarcus the whole time he played. Think there’s a coincidence that the offense took off against Pittsburgh when DHB went to the sidelines and Louis Murphy became the 3rd receiver behind Chaz and JLH, the same guys JR led the team to two straight victories with to end 2008? When JR brought us back against Denver in week 15, who was his go-to guy? Having a legit #1 is huge on every team. Hue Jackson has gotten around it here, but we didn’t have him last year. There’s a lot of hate for JR for ALLEGED sleeping in meetings, not knowing the gameplan (ridiculous) and drug addiction (somebody prove it). But I’m not going to judge him on last year with all the FOOTBALL obstacles he faced. And he will be on another team eventually. Then we can put my theory to the test.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Campbell was able to move this offense for two weeks because the dumpoffs to the RBs were turning into BIG gains. Look at our FB and RB stats compared to WR in the two games before KC. They FAR out produced the WR production.
When that’s taken away from Campbell he looks lost for the most part. Two games in a row the first half he was able to make virtually NOTHING happen.
But, the bad part about Grads is the exact opposite. He almost never will check down the RB which has been productive. If Grads opens up that part of his game rather than ONLY looking down field he’ll be much better.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
All I know is when Bruce is qb our offense moves at a good clip. He gets into a flow
November 11th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
MOVE OVER DALLAS, THE RAIDERS ARE AMERICAS NEW TEAM
It wasn’t easy, finding America’s Next Top “America’s Team.” It is no casual thing; the implications are severe. You saw what happened with the Cowboys.
Dallas was “America’s Team” for … well, forever. But over the past few seasons, the Cowboys have worn that moniker like an anvil around their collective neck. There’s an implied pressure to perform that, let’s face it, can be a little wearying when it’s so nonstop. (As it turns out, Wade Phillips’ team this year opted not to perform at all, so no worries. But still.)
And even if the Cowboys were on top of the football world right now, the title needs to change hands occasionally. What’s the fun in having something like “America’s Team” to throw around if it’s always the same bunch? There’s a new Top Chef every year. There’s a new Top Model every year. A new Idol. Everything in our country is subject to review, except perhaps the key plays of a Major League Baseball game.
So, ladies and gentlemen, after much deliberation, we are both happy and a little anxious to present to you … America’s Next Top America’s Team.
The Oakland Raiders.
We’ll wait here. You may need to take a moment.
Right, it’s understood: The Raiders might not, at first glance, be the obvious choice. There’s no question about that. We’re as surprised as anyone that the voting wound up going the way it did.
OK, so maybe “America’s Team” doesn’t have the “ring” it once did. And who really has any business talking about rings around the recent-vintage Raiders?
Whatever. We looked around at the other options. Clearly, fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers can make a case for their team; the Steelers win all the time and they’re a family business. The Green Bay Packers are literally owned by their fans, at least in part. The Philadelphia Eagles are being led by a quarterback who is making the most of a second chance at a football life. The Patriots have that revolutionary-sounding nickname. Worthy candidates all.
But in almost every way, the Raiders are a living snapshot of America right now. They’re a big, sloppy mess. They don’t always know what they’re doing. They make some lousy choices and some inspired ones, and they often spend futilely. You can question their leadership almost any day you feel like it.
And yet, they’re forging ahead, reaching for better days. They can even see some of those days within their grasp right now. What could possibly be more emblematic of the country that that?
Despised by the other powers? Check.
Often caught overvaluing their assets? Check.
Confusion at the upper levels of administration? Oh, baby.
We have a winner.
Oakland’s ascent to relevance in the NFL this season beats the odds in every way that can be measured. It wasn’t even a sure thing that the coach, Tom Cable, would make it to the start of the campaign. Cable finished last year with a not-untalented team and a 5-11 knot on his noggin. He had a fat, immobile quarterback (JaMarcus Russell), and he called out owner Al Davis by enthusiastically embracing an interviewer’s suggestion that the team was a potential playoff entry if only Cable had been allowed to bench Russell in favor of Bruce Gradkowski.
Usually, potshotting Davis around Oakland is a one-way ticket out of the Bay Area. And if that didn’t do it, some people figured that the incident in which Cable allegedly went after one of his assistant coaches would have taken care of things. Instead, Cable got to the end of that miserable season with his job intact and, however improbable, the respect of his players very thorough and rather deep.
Even a few weeks ago, though, the 2010 edition of the Raiders looked eerily similar to previous versions. Oakland was in another QB quandary with Jason Campbell, who was brought in to give Davis the precious vertical game he covets, losing his job to the consistently underestimated Gradkowski. The defense was up and down. The O-line was banged up, and the record was 2-4.
But that was three straight wins ago. Gradkowski got hurt, Campbell was forced back into action, and Oakland hasn’t lost since. The return of Darren McFadden and the run game has made a huge difference. A healthy offensive line matters tremendously. There is a sense among the Raiders — a very new sense, mind you — that they are going to compete in every game they play.
Of course, this being America’s Next Top America’s Team and thus a symbol of the current state of affairs in our country, that could all change radically, and soon. Oakland’s overtime victory against the Chiefs on Sunday raised its record to 5-4, an unheard of plus-.500 showing this late in the season for recent-era Al Davis teams. The Raiders’ reward? A trip to Pittsburgh to play the Steelers, following a bye week.
Again, though, that kind of uncertainty is the way of our nation right now. So much of the Raiders’ experience is quintessentially American: They have a nutty owner and, as a result, some ongoing confusion over who’s calling the shots. (The Contra Costa Times reported this week that despite Gradkowski’s return to health, Cable chose Campbell as the starting QB because he was pressured by Davis to do so.) And they’ve spent terrible money at different times (DeAngelo Hall, Larry Brown, Javon Walker, Russell).
But they can still surprise you. Sure, they had a draft year in which Darrius Heyward-Bey was their big choice, but that same draft produced Louis Murphy. This year, they snagged unheralded rookie Jacoby Ford in the fourth round; Ford personally dismantled the Chiefs with his receiving and kick-returning brilliance.
Will it last? You’d be crazy to think so. The Raiders have put together so many consecutive losing seasons (seven and counting) that no one is yet willing to christen them as some sort of winning outfit. It’s only fair, after all.
Then again: This constantly sputtering, smoke-spewing, overspending, overly nostalgic entity just found a way to become part of the big conversation once more. Who is really to say what could happen?
It’s anybody’s ballgame. Very American.
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ESPN complementing us and insulting us at the same. time.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
LOL!
Cmon JFB, if I would’ve said something like that about Jamarcus ….
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Touche, lol
But you thought you were right than and I think I am right now.
Which way is it?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I think that Grads could win with this team. And his chances would go up with a healthy Miller, Chaz, Nnamdi, McClain, and Henderson.
I don’t think we cold win under the same circumstances with a doped up QB.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
KK still babbling nonsense
unconventional high pressure Pittsburgh Defense
What is so unconventional about a 3-4 defense?
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You think the Steelers run a 3-4 Tard boy?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
but I’m not going to judge him on last year with all the FOOTBALL obstacles he faced. And he will be on another team eventually.
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Just as long as he stays the hell away from mine, I’m good.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Why are people still defending jamarcus makes absolutely no sense. Its old news get over it. Instead maybe all of you should focus on the positive. I.e. being 5-4 at the bye.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I don’t know Kookell do you still think Shanahan invented cut blocking?
TARD!
November 11th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
KK
Read this….if you can read
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/374643-the-3-4-defense-and-why-the-best-defenses-in-the-nfl-run-this-scheme
November 11th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
KK still babbling nonsense
unconventional high pressure Pittsburgh Defense
What is so unconventional about a 3-4 defense?
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You think the Steelers run a 3-4 Tard boy?
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I don’t know Kookell
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Then STFU.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Ford personally dismantled the Chiefs with his receiving and kick-returning brilliance.
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Who knew???
November 11th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
The Steelers do run a 3-4, and occasionally a 2-4 in their nickel package. At least they have when I watched them this year.
You think otherwise, Kell?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
KoolKell I posted a link that claims the Steelers run a 3-4 defense….unless the Bleacher Report is lying then they do!!
Why do I have to spank you every day I come in here?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=kreidler/101111
November 11th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
The Steelers do run a 3-4, and occasionally a 2-4 in their nickel package. At least they have when I watched them this year.
You think otherwise, Kell?
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They play a very unconventional defense, I saw 2 down lineman and many others crowding the line of scrimmage.
Troy Polamahu has the freedom to line up wherever he likes. And trying to make blocking calls is going to be very difficult.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
LA please do not feel bad for KK he is a bumbling drooling old man who wears adult diapers and has enlarged genital warts.
He is also a retarded dolt who thinks he knows football but he doesn’t he only knows where his bottle of Metamucil is.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Why do I have to spank you every day I come in here?
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In your dreams, Tard boy.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
They do run a 3-4 and they do add a lot of different looks to it one is where a DT will have to drop back in pass coverage and then they will blitz corners or safeties.
Not so uncommon and unconventional as the drooling old man thinks it is. Basically 2nd grade math is unconventional and complex to KoolKell
November 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
All bloggers who hate KK and think Pitt runsd a 3-4 press 1
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November 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
KK, you’re right about the 2 DL.
They run a 2-4-5 nickel so that they can have the best pash rush available. Still leaving in 4 attacking LBs and have a nickel back in there.
What they sacrifice in doing that is their run-stuffing ability, although IMO not enough teams have taken advantage of that.
They take Hampton off the field when they run that D, but they’re still a base 3-4.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
They take Hampton off the field when they run that D, but they’re still a base 3-4
DING DING
DING DING
That is the correct answer and now KK can take his meds and a nap then we can all blog happier.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I think we need to attack that 2-4 as much as possible with screens and run plays.
Taking advantage of over agressive LBs.
Have to get a hat on Troy though.
I think Marcel and DMC will have to be huge in this game.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/11/raiders-dt-richard-seymour-future-hall-of-famer/1
Let’s up the percentages for yes
November 11th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I really don’t get why everyone wants Gradkowski. Most of us wish that Jason was more mobile, but give the guy some time in the pocket, he will deliver the ball to his WR/TE/RB. Like Shaz, I just don’t trust that Bruce can stay on the field long enough. He gets hurt way too often. He might make more big plays, but he has more accuracy problems than Jason. If the line can protect Jason, we will continue to win. Bruce will get hurt again if he starts.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
KK, you’re right about the 2 DL.
They run a 2-4-5 nickel so that they can have the best pash rush available. Still leaving in 4 attacking LBs and have a nickel back in there.
What they sacrifice in doing that is their run-stuffing ability, although IMO not enough teams have taken advantage of that.
They take Hampton off the field when they run that D, but they’re still a base 3-4.
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Ok. I know I’ve seen plenty of that in their Monday Nite game. Can we say that 2DL lineup is unconventional?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
“I really don’t get why everyone wants Gradkowski.”
The guy is pure energy he makes everyone around him better. The guys on our team play hard for him and feed off of his energy and enthusiasm.
Right now we are winning in spite of having Campbell at QB, kind of like how Baltimore won the Super Bowl in spite of having Trent Dilfer as a QB
Does that help McRaider5150?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Ok KK 2 DL is unconventional can we let it rest now?
November 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Ok KK 2 DL is unconventional can we let it rest now?
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Go F yourself, Tard Boy.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Sorry it hurts so bad to be outted KK but you’re a lackey you don’t know crap about football. You even told me that Shanahan invented Cut blocking.
Now shut up sit back down and go change your adult diaper so we can stop holding our breath in here.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I was reading recent posts… I’m really surprised that there is so much Campbell hating going on. Do people realize that the other team has a defense? KC had allowed 13 pts. all season in the first quarter. When defenses are tough like that, you have to wear them down. There was little surprise to the KC locker room that they lost it toward the end. It was a problem they had been having and we exposed it. Just to let you know, Pitt has only allowed 15 pts in the first quarter this year, so don’t be so quick to jump on the Campbell haters club and bring in Bruce. Jason and Bruce have both proved they can come back and beat teams once we’ve wore them out. I hope we jump on Pitt early, but regardless what happens, like KC, Pitt will wear down. We are a younger team with just as much passion and will to win.
Oh, and that Ram game earlier in the year… the Rams have allowed 6 pts. all year in the 1st qtr, so maybe it wasn’t Campbell’s ineptness, but just good defense. Nonetheless, Bruce pulled it out… thank you Bruce. And Tom Cable would never hear the end of it if he put in Grad against the Steelers and lost. You just don’t pull a QB when your on a 3 game winning streak.
Oh, and Jim Plunkett, my favorite QB of all time stepped up when it counted. 2 super bowls. Lifetime stats: 52.5%comp, 164 TD, 198 Int., 67.5 Rating. So sometimes it is just being in the right place and being given the opportunity and coming through at the right time. You wanna make fun of stats? He currently has more championships than how many other QB’s?
Who do you think Plunkett dumped it off to? Marcus…
November 11th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Like I said if Bruce Gradkowski’s last mane was Williams, I don’t think this conversation would be happening.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Like I said if Bruce Gradkowski’s last *name was Williams, I don’t think this conversation would be happening.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Silver-and-black666 Says:
“I really don’t get why everyone wants Gradkowski.”
The guy is pure energy he makes everyone around him better. The guys on our team play hard for him and feed off of his energy and enthusiasm.
Right now we are winning in spite of having Campbell at QB, kind of like how Baltimore won the Super Bowl in spite of having Trent Dilfer as a QB
Does that help McRaider5150?
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No it doesn’t. BRUCE CAN NOT STAY HEALTHY. So why put him in right on the heels of a 3 game win streak. I honestly wish that Jason had Bruce’s energy and fire. I think a young team really needs that. I also think that the raiders are starting to realize, they are good and they do not need a Bruce to pump them up every second to motivate them.
November 11th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
BSPN is finally giving us props!
Check this out!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5778704
November 11th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Interesting stat…NY Giants have the longest win streak at 5, while Green Bay and Oakland are tied at 3 for 2nd! I know no one cares, but thought I throw that out there…can the Raiders win the next 2? 5 game win streak and 7-4 in the standings…I believe we can with the attitude that the players are having…sky is the limit!
November 11th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
First 3 game winning streak in a decade, and “some people” want to change QB’s??????
November 11th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Cable: We’ve given guys different things. Could be paper, could be disc. But yeah, anyone, A) who wanted it, or B) who we think needed it, we made sure they had material they could work on.
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Note to self, dont ask a team how they are using technoogy could potentially give away an edge.
Hopefully he gave media out to everyone, as no one on the team can rest on their laurels….
November 11th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
McRaider5150
I didn’t say put Bruce back in there right now. He needs to be held out until he is fully healed. Putting a half injured QB back in the lineup is not smart.
Besides Jason Campbell is winning so it’s a good problem to have.
On a sadder note leave it krappy old kell to make it a racial issue
November 11th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
KKKell, some of us judge people by the content of their character & performance not by their skin color. You should give that a try you bitter old bigot.
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# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Like I said if Bruce Gradkowski’s last *name was Williams, I don’t think this conversation would be happening.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
The HC wanted to change Qb’s like the moron that he is. He got a talkin to by the GM you hate, give props to AL for that you bitter old bigot!
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# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
First 3 game winning streak in a decade, and “some people” want to change QB’s??????
November 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
KKKell, some of us judge people by the content of their character & performance not by their skin color. You should give that a try you bitter old bigot.
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WOW! BrownStains quoting Martin Luther King Jr.
As I live and breathe.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Mista Brown Nose
did you miss me?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Mista Brown Nose
did you miss me?
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Tard boy, I think you’re the one who’s missed us. Just getting off your ban?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Yes I am getting off my year long ban and I am happy to be back but I know as soon as I call the mod a name I am gone again.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Steelers been running a 3-4 defense since the beginning of time. They may disguise it well but, its still a 3-4.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Boredom this Sunday because I only watch the Raiders these days! Don’t have the time anymore to watch all games shown on tv like I used to! But what will happen if both Denver and KC play to a tie? would they only be a 1/4 game up on us? LOL
November 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Amazing eh KKKell….but seriously give it a try you might become a happier person.
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# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
WOW! BrownStains quoting Martin Luther King Jr.
As I live and breathe.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Q: How do you see Jacoby’s role, given the way he played Sunday?
Cable: I think it has to continue to grow. This is a prove-it league, and certainly he’s proving it. One of the issues that’s coming for us is we’re going to get some depth and some quality players at the same time at receiver. I think that’s going to do nothing but help us. We’ve had, really I think some nice things happen to us in our three-receiver set, and I think it may allow us to be a little more confident in that personnel group.
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Translation expect Hue to implement some 4 WR’s sets…
November 11th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Thanks Raiderdave68
I thought I was the only one
November 11th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Silver-And-Black666 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Yes I am getting off my year long ban and I am happy to be back but I know as soon as I call the mod a name I am gone again.
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Wow….year long ban. Yeah, you are bad news.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Amazing eh KKKell….but seriously give it a try you might become a happier person.
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I’m plenty happy, BrownStains. Very lucky man. You…………not so much.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
No problem silver and black. Not everyone on this blog knows football.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
lol
November 11th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Raider Fans, I’m out for a while. Hopefully the Trolls will follow me, and you guys can resume your football discussions.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Hope Ford starts this week . We really need his speed on the outside. He also is one tough SOB. He has shown that he can play just as hard as anyone on the team.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Would be a welcome sight. The O-line play has improved just enough to let that happen.
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Thec07 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Translation expect Hue to implement some 4 WR’s sets…
November 11th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
KKKell, the only thing that follows you is horse flies. Run along bigot…
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# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Raider Fans, I’m out for a while. Hopefully the Trolls will follow me, and you guys can resume your football discussions.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
OG, during a bye week I wouldn’t look forward to Ford Mustang starting if I were you. For that matter you might as well know there is no game this week. Thanks for closely following along to Raider Football.
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OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Hope Ford starts this week .
November 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Donkeys vs. Qweefs
Raider Nation is actually pulling for the Donks??
November 11th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Do you think that we can run some screens with Big Reece and Dmac to counter some of those crazy Blitzes?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
r8eray Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Donkeys vs. Qweefs
Raider Nation is actually pulling for the Donks??
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Have to.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Do you think that we can run some screens with Big Reece and Dmac to counter some of those crazy Blitzes?
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We should. They’ll probably have Troy try to key in on some of those. That’s where play action will help us. If we can get single coverage with no help over the top, we can get some deep balls going.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Would be a welcome sight. The O-line play has improved just enough to let that happen.
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Thec07 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Translation expect Hue to implement some 4 WR’s sets…
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I disagree. We’ve been running a lot of what amounts to 6 O Line looks this year.
If we run 4 WR sets, means we take Reece off the field or Zach (if healthy).
Would help if any of our WRs ran intermediate routes but of course they don’t.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Hope Ford starts this week . We really need his speed on the outside. He also is one tough SOB. He has shown that he can play just as hard as anyone on the team.
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Actually JFORD is a slacker who is 2 weeks behind schdule…He needs to have a good game against pitt…
November 11th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Donkeys vs. Qweefs
Raider Nation is actually pulling for the Donks??
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ray,
I’m personally hoping for a game that is tied at 3-3, goes to OT with the winner making another FG
oh yeah, and lots of injuries
November 11th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Thx Mistic for corecting Me, Sorry forgot about BYE . Just wish we can continue the butt whippin…
November 11th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I called a Barnes touchdown last week but he didnt do the fat man dance I was looking for so now im lookin for a DHB TD over 60 yards… We need this from him
November 11th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
That’s exactly what they should do is run screens against the blitz. Someone stutely pointed out the way we beat the Steelers in ‘02 we spread them out and attacked the zones the difference is we will run more often now in that game in’02 we threw it 61 times. This offense will run at tham out of pass formation and pass out of run formation. This is a much more versatile offense that employs a lot more speed. The ‘02 team was slow compared to this team.
We have Olympic speed outside their zones will be stretched out of proportion rendering them ineffective. They cannt account for our speed no way no how. It’s the same way we should’ve played the 49ers but we tried to trick them instead of lining up and attacking them their was no way they could cover it. But I’ll give the niners credit they stopped our run game better than I thought they could due to missed opportunities deep.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Broncos have to win that game.
I hate to say it, but if you want what’s best for the team, that’s a Denver win.
Would put us in first place (essentially, with a head-to-head win against KC and a better division record).
How can you not want 1st place?
Denver’s far enough behind that we don’t have to worry about them climbing in the standings.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I called a Barnes touchdown last week but he didnt do the fat man dance I was looking for
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LOL @ PD81
you wanted to see Barnes do the truffle shuffle ???
November 11th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Yea I really did….I knew we were gonna use him at the goal line because it made so much sense….Being a fat guy I love seeing fat guys score touchdowns…
November 11th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
I grabbin Barnes for my fantasy league since Miller is hurt… lol
November 11th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
What’s this 10-6 and squeek into the playoffs? I say this team can go 12-4 have no. 1 seed in the AFC. GO RAIDERS.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Dungver had an extra week to prepare for the Chefs and Oakland just gave them a blueprint for beating KC … STUFF THE RUN!
Bowe & Moeaki will get theirs, but it won’t be enough to get the ‘W’
if i’m Josh McFailure I say have Champ Bailey shadow Dwayne Bowe and stack 9 in the box at all times
Denver’s front 7 on D is nothing compared to ours!
November 11th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Our WR’s run short and intermediate routes all the time. Digs, bubbles, crosses and some slants. Murphy ran most of the crosses and slants. DHB runs a lot of short outs for 5 yards normally on 1st down. We do everything most teams do and when Chaz is bacl we’ll do a lot more slants.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
LOL @ “Josh McFailure”
November 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Man Dominos is taking way to long with my food…..Im fat,hungry and workin solo today so I cant leave
November 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
when Chaz is bacl we’ll do a lot more slants.
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you’re already game planning for Week 16?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Anybody have any superbowl predictions?
I am just curious as to who everyone thinks we will be playing.
A lot depends on who can stay healthy.
A rematch with the Beagles lead by Vick would make nice headlines. But I think the Giants are more likely to make it.
PS I hope the cheating pats make it to the Championship so we can get even for the tuck rule.
Hopefully we maim Tom in that game so he can gimp home and live happily ever after with supermodels feeding him peeled grapes.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Post355
Had me really laughing at loud
November 11th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Sittin here thinkin to myself why did I buy that Schilens jersey last year????
November 11th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Maybe a rematch with the Bucs
November 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I think the Falcons will make it out of the NFC.
Just read that Matty Ice is 17-1 at home in his career. That’s pretty freaking amazon, with him starting as a rookie and all.
If they get home-field it is over.
AFC I see whoever comes out of the AFC North giving us the best game for the bowl, lol.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
That would be the sweetest revenge game. We got a little revenge when we knocked them out of the playoffs and ran Gruden out of the NFL but a SB win would make Al happy, so I am all for it.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
disagree. We’ve been running a lot of what amounts to 6 O Line looks this year.
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I respect your opinion Bro However, Hue has implemented a new wrinkle every week. With the logjam we will have at WR would not suprise me to see 4 WR set…
November 11th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Hold on to that Schillens jersey. You’ll be the coolest cat with a drank during Chaz’s HOF acceptance speech.
In week 16.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I think the Falcons will make it out of the NFC.
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JFB,
what happened to your Redskins prediction?
November 11th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Mistic keeps saying he hopes we’ll win, Jason’s the clear-cut starting QB, but our O Line is awful and we’ll likely lose regardless of QB.
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:48 am
the only place there is no QB controversey is in your mind. Cable wants Gradkowski. He may be sticking with the hot hand, but it was a far cry from “Jason’s the guy.”
Sorry, dude.
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L.A,
I never said we would lose. I said I expect our starting qb to struggle, because our o-line is not very good. The pitt blitz package will give the o-line trouble, they do it to everyone.
If a coach named a starter, there is no controversy, it has been decided. the only controversy is here where people dont want to get behind our newly named full time starter Jason Campbell.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Raiders Vs The gints
November 11th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Thec07 we don’t have a log jam at WR just yet. I doubt Chaz is back by Pitt game. Maybe the following week. Dude has to practice (with trainer) on successive days first, then successfully (with the team) for some duration then can be eased back into the rotation.
Pitt game we’ll be back to having 4 healthy WRs not named Nick Miller (who they do not appear overly inclined to use at WR).
November 11th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
With the logjam we will have at WR would not suprise me to see 4 WR set…
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3 WR’s and Zmiller or 4 WR sets against a craphole Squeelers secondary that loves to blitz and is over aggressive?
LeBeau might make JCamp look like the McNabb shanny thought he was getting!
November 11th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Raiders Vs The gints
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revenge game!
Mike Waufle vs Kevin Boothe
November 11th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Our WR’s run short and intermediate routes all the time. Digs, bubbles, crosses and some slants. Murphy ran most of the crosses and slants. DHB runs a lot of short outs for 5 yards normally on 1st down. We do everything most teams do and when Chaz is bacl we’ll do a lot more slants.
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We don’t run a lot of bubble screens. We don’t run nearly enough slants. DHB does run some outs and hitches, but because he doesn’t really catch them, doesn’t matter much.
I appreciate your knowledge of the route tree, but I think Zach runs the majority of our underneath stuff.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Our NFC SupaBo opponent is tough to see right now. So many things can happen injury wise between now and then. Giants, Falcons, Packers maybe Eagles seem like decent teams much of the time. Not so sure about Team Pewter but i’d like a rematch of that to be sure.
November 11th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
JFB,
what happened to your Redskins prediction?
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I only said they would sneak in with the #6 seed, and I am sticking to it!!
November 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk – later gents!
November 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
DHB does run some outs and hitches, but because he doesn’t really catch them, doesn’t matter much.
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Sad but true.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Raider Jon Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 11:20 am
…..There was an oppurtunity for Ford in the first half, but he dropped an easy one that Campbell laid out for him. Now, all credit to Jacoby for stealing the ball from Flowers and for returning the punt, but two plays imparticular was all because of Campbell’s read. The catch where Ford goes to his knees … Campbell reads one on one and that the DB has the outside, so he throws it to the inside where only Ford can make a play on it. The second play in OT where the D lines up in Quarters, JC reads that defense and realizes that they have to go to man and puts the ball deep inside where no DB can get to it. Jacoby did a good job in catching it, but that was because of Jason Campbell’s read.
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Oh effin me. Mistic has recreated himself as Raider Jon.
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I agree with raider jon, but i am not him. Mistic1 supavillain, those are my handles.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
JLofty Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Thec07 we don’t have a log jam at WR just yet. I doubt Chaz is back by Pitt game. Maybe the following week. Dude has to practice (with trainer) on successive days first, then successfully (with the team) for some duration then can be eased back into the rotation.
Pitt game we’ll be back to having 4 healthy WRs not named Nick Miller (who they do not appear overly inclined to use at WR).
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We have enough moving parts to show 4 WR sets;
Reece, MBush, DMAC, ZMILLER, all 4 can line up as a wideout, can even leave DMAC as the HB…
You can either pass or run with this formation….
November 11th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
LTR Rock…
November 11th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
disagree. We’ve been running a lot of what amounts to 6 O Line looks this year.
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I respect your opinion Bro However, Hue has implemented a new wrinkle every week. With the logjam we will have at WR would not suprise me to see 4 WR set…
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Only if we can get the ball out quickly.
I would love to see McFadden play Mr. Invisible in that spread offense and catch defenses unaware.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Anyone see the interview with Chiefs HC talking about Seymour and how they couldn’t do anything because of him… classic.. it’s on chiefs site
November 11th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
drix, link?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
You are welcome but Im not Mistic.
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# OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Thx Mistic for corecting Me, Sorry forgot about BYE . Just wish we can continue the butt whippin…
November 11th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I never said we would lose. I said I expect our starting qb to struggle, because our o-line is not very good. The pitt blitz package will give the o-line trouble, they do it to everyone.
If a coach named a starter, there is no controversy, it has been decided. the only controversy is here where people dont want to get behind our newly named full time starter Jason Campbell.
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My bad, for some reason I thought you said you didn’t expect a win due to O Line struggles.
I just don’t agree with the ‘coach named a starter, there is no controversy’ thing.
If there’s still debate, there’s still controversey.
Nobody is debating Peyton Manning vs. Chris Painter.
One is an A++, the other is apparently a D-
We have two B- guys, which I don’t think is a bad thing, as they’re pushing each other.
Jason was handed a starting role and had never been challenged until Cable/Hue pulled him. Now he’s gotta keep bringing it cause he know he can get the hook.
Bruce was handed a starting role after several seasons as a back up scrub and he’s got a chip on his shoulder the size of Toledo now that he’s lost it again.
Again, this is a good problem to have, IMO.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Classic
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
when Chaz is bacl we’ll do a lot more slants.
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you’re already game planning for Week 16?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Semymour is a beast ! All these haters down here in socal said we got duped by the Pats again. Looks like its the other way around this time .
November 11th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Only if we can get the ball out quickly.
I would love to see McFadden play Mr. Invisible in that spread offense and catch defenses unaware.
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thats what I am hoping for, a very up tempo fast game…
It plays to the speed advantage we have….
November 11th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/From-the-Podium-Todd-Haley/34842a0b-47ae-4f53-aa94-c8de7ef57f71
November 11th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Well according to SeymourBush/OakGlen this makes you a bonafide hardcore Atl fan.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I think the Falcons will make it out of the NFC.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Thec, you should give your boy Jacoby Ford Mustang a shiatsu on the bye week to get him smoothed out going into Pitts.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Semymour is a beast ! All these haters down here in socal said we got duped by the Pats again. Looks like its the other way around this time .
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If we were 2-6 right now, I would have to say they were right, but Rich is becoming the leader of this D and is anchoring a D Line that is playing at a very high level right now.
Very excited about that side of the ball right now.
Offense too, with the wrinkles that Hue is putting in there, although I think execution needs to be more like the Denver game rather than the KC game.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
In case you haven’t seen it, ESPN has proclaimed the Raiders the new America’s Team:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=kreidler/101111
November 11th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Just realized 2-6 equals 8. Sorry guys, JaMarcus Moment.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
In case you haven’t seen it, ESPN has proclaimed the Raiders the new America’s Team:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=kreidler/101111
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We always were, IMO.
If not than certainly the International Team.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
LOL… LA
Jamarcus moment…
November 11th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Pats sure looked like they could have used some D-line help when that white dude gashed them for 180 yards last week, a heck of a lot more than they could use the 24th pick in next years draft.
I hope we win the West and face the Pats in the first round. Seymour might just go Ultimate Warrior crazy on them and come sprinting in from the bleachers.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
I’m not sure if I like the Raiders getting all this attention. I hope it doesn’t go to their heads. Hopefully Cabel and Hue are letting them know that there is a lot of room for improvement. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they come out completely flat against the Steelers.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Campbell was able to move this offense for two weeks because the dumpoffs to the RBs were turning into BIG gains. Look at our FB and RB stats compared to WR in the two games before KC. They FAR out produced the WR production.
When that’s taken away from Campbell he looks lost for the most part. Two games in a row the first half he was able to make virtually NOTHING happen.
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Again a qb should and is supposed to check down and dump the ball off. when nothing is open or the pressure is closing in you need to dump the ball off. Also why not dump it when you have guys like portis and cooly, and dmac. these are solid pass catching threats. especially when your guys on the outside leave a lot to be desired, as in the case for the foreskins, and here in oakland. I think we actually have better weapons on the outside here, and you have seen to receivers have career games with campbell.
Campbell should have had a good first half in the kc game, all of the dropped passes hurt his rating and numbers. Numbers dont always tell the full story.
You dont penalize the qb for checking down, its a problem when he forces it into coverage for turnovers and takes sacks.
The criticism for being smart with the ball is baseless.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Is it just my crazy ass or does this bye week followed by the game @ pitt feel like the 2 weeks before the super bowl? This game is going to mean a lot for us. And we’re getting our SB spirit back with huge division wins, and who better to validate our post season prospects then our greatest rivalry outside of the west in the steelers. I’ve been getting hated on this past decade for the high hopes i get each year heading into each season, but it’s crazy how everyone now tries saying they “knew” all along that the raiders were returning to excellence this year. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
P.S. the only thing as good as the Raiders kickn ass is them cowgirls turning into the lions What a season so far!
November 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Thec, you should give your boy Jacoby Ford Mustang a shiatsu on the bye week to get him smoothed out going into Pitts.
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Way ahead of you Bro, sent him a gift Cert to one of the local florida establishments…5′10″ Buxom Female
November 11th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
If they beat the Steelers on the road, they are a bona-fide SB contender this year. No BS!!!
Does help that this year is kind of a toss-up anyways, but still.
Even with a loss and 5-5, we still are right there in the thick of things, which is all we really asked for.
Important football in December. Great lesson for the youth and coaching staff, even if it doesn’t work out into a deep playoff run or one at all.
December football is not like October football.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
5′10″ Buxom Female
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Poor Jacoby, she will be taller than him!!!
Might give him an inferiority complex. Go with the short asian.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
We don’t run a lot of bubble screens. We don’t run nearly enough slants. DHB does run some outs and hitches, but because he doesn’t really catch them, doesn’t matter much.
I appreciate your knowledge of the route tree, but I think Zach runs the majority of our underneath stuff.
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My thought exactly. Our outside WR run 15 to 17 yards hooks and outs. The might throw in 1 or two hitches, but I do not see bubble screens being ran with the WR. They seem to be shortening their routes a little and that good. our line can’t hold those blocks long enoung for the 17 yard patterns. Zach ussually runs the 8 to 12 yard patterns.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Like I said if Bruce Gradkowski’s last *name was Williams, I don’t think this conversation would be happening.
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What does this mean, polish white name vs. english white name?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Sweet!
Was this a referral from J Rice ?
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Thec07 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Way ahead of you Bro, sent him a gift Cert to one of the local florida establishments…5′10″ Buxom Female
November 11th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Mistic,
I think what the bitter old bigot (kkkell) is saying is that if Bruce had darker skin some wouldn’t want him on the field.
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# mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Like I said if Bruce Gradkowski’s last *name was Williams, I don’t think this conversation would be happening.
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What does this mean, polish white name vs. english white name?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Sweet!
Was this a referral from J Rice ?
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Thec07 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Way ahead of you Bro, sent him a gift Cert to one of the local florida establishments…5′10″ Buxom Female
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Ray Lewis…
November 11th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
5′10″ Buxom Female
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Poor Jacoby, she will be taller than him!!!
Might give him an inferiority complex. Go with the short asian.
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Naw he I up for the challenge..Kid has a napoleon complex… I heard he tried to take on Seymour…
November 11th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Our WR’s run short and intermediate routes all the time. Digs, bubbles, crosses and some slants. Murphy ran most of the crosses and slants. DHB runs a lot of short outs for 5 yards normally on 1st down. We do everything most teams do and when Chaz is bacl we’ll do a lot more slants.
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We don’t run a lot of bubble screens. We don’t run nearly enough slants. DHB does run some outs and hitches, but because he doesn’t really catch them, doesn’t matter much.
I appreciate your knowledge of the route tree, but I think Zach runs the majority of our underneath stuff.
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L.A
Most of dhb’s catches are in short and intermediate flat on the boundary.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
IS Bruce a white guy ? Really? he looks mixed…hehe
November 11th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
New post Guys…
November 11th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
I think DHB is actually open quite a bit.
He needs to get the ball more or else he’ll never grow.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Campbell is just a leaner version of Jabusto. With better work ethic. The only reason he is winning game is because we have a stellar defense and running game.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
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November 11th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
9.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 10th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
It’s all about the players. Without Ford, we lose last week. That’s outright indisputable.
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Haha what do you mean “we” madden hater??/ You’re bot a raiders fan.lol
November 12th, 2010 at 12:20 am
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