McFadden, Seymour fuel Raiders resurgence
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, November 11th, 2010 at 3:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.
And to think a few short months ago, Darren McFadden was a potential draft bust and Richard Seymour was an example of Bill Belichick picking the pocket of Al Davis.
Raiders coach Tom Cable has gone to great lengths to preach the team aspect, the “brotherhood” forged in training camp and a willingness of the 53-man roster to scratch, claw and fight.
Based on the Raiders 5-4 record at the bye, who is to doubt him?
But none of those qualities would mean a lot if McFadden hadn’t energized the offense and Seymour wasn’t the physical and emotional lynch pin of the defense.
Cable is fond of saying the Raiders always knew what they had in McFadden and that health was the lone issue with his performance. He immediately shot down any and all off-season and draft time trade rumors.
You never heard McFadden called a bust in this space, but I’ve openly wondered about whether his running style was a fit for the NFL and if maybe he was strictly a perimeter guy and a runner-receiver.
All the talk about McFadden’s skinny legs and inability to break tackles seems ridiculous every time he lowers his shoulder and drives into a defender to pick up an extra yard or three and finish off a run.
In one season, McFadden has gone from the guy who goes down too easy to their best and most explosive running back since Bo Jackson.
With the 49ers having a week to prepare and fairly secure in the knowledge that McFadden wouldn’t be in the lineup, Hue Jackson didn’t have nearly the versatility at his disposal as the Raiders gained 179 yards of total offense in a 17-9 defeat at Candlestick Park.
With McFadden back against Denver . . . you know the story.
The most important thing about the Raiders offense over the last seven games isn’t whether Jason Campbell or Bruce Gradkowski is at quarterback or who made the decision, it’s keeping McFadden upright and explosive.
As for Seymour, his impact on the psyche of the team is illustrated in this CNN-SI story by Jim Trotter. Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha recounted a conversation he had with Seymour at Rangers-Giants World Series game that spoke volumes.
Seymour is a big reason Matt Shaughnessy is coming into his own and learning how to be a terrific defensive end. Seymour has caused Tommy Kelly to step his game up inside, a player who is finally playing up to contract he signed following the 2007 season. Lamarr Houston has played through some rough patches and is holding the edge of late, with plenty of help from his own skill and line coach Mike Waufle, but also because of Seymour’s presence.
But make no mistake, Seymour is doing more than being a leader. He’s been absolutely dominant inside and at his present pace could wind up with at least a third more tackles than he’s ever had and something approaching 10 sacks.
The Raiders haven’t had this kind of play from an individual on the defensive line since Howie Long, and if the Raiders continue to play as they have, Seymour is a viable Defensive Player of the Year candidate.
The better the Raiders play, the lower the first-round pick New England gets in return in 2011. New England is still a good team, they’re 6-2 and probably playoff bound, but that draft pick didn’t co much to help them stop Peyton Hills (29 carries, 184 yards) in a 34-14 loss to Cleveland last week.
Asked earlier this week if Davis was pleased with the way things were going, Seymour laughed and said, “Oh yean, I think he (whipped) the Patriots on that trade.”
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November 11th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Raider NATION….
November 11th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=1905
Very interesting article, blueprint on how to beat the stillars….
Echo’s the sentiments of some of the semi pros….
November 11th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
IS Bruce a white guy ? Really? he looks mixed…hehe
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He looks like a swarthy Italian. He would fit in perfectly on Jersey Shore.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Keep em coming, Jerry.
I remember last offseason we got the cout up to like 5k and it was really slooooooooooooow.
I mean like JaMarcus slow.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
“Oh yean, I think he (whipped) the Patriots on that trade.”
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Think he said something less G rated didn’t he?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
The most important thing about the Raiders offense over the last seven games isn’t whether Jason Campbell or Bruce Gradkowski is at quarterback or who made the decision, it’s keeping McFadden upright and explosive.
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Jerry dispensing some TRUTH on this blog.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Wow, that is a great article on #92. He is even raising the level of area 21. These guys are complete leaders, and we are lucky to have them. I hope we keep them in silver and black until they retire.
Seymour the polar opposite of warren the slob
November 11th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_2
November 11th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Real leadership, we havnt seen it since 2002
November 11th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Just bought my one year old niece her first Raiders shirt.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
7. Things were crap when Warren was here. We were on the decline and had a bunch of A holes collecting a check.
Have to think Warren helped the decline with his eye rolling and bishing about how mess up everything was.
Seymour came in at a time when things were getting turned around and led by example.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Directed at priesttj?
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“All the talk about McFadden’s skinny legs and inability to break tackles seems ridiculous every time he lowers his shoulder and drives into a defender to pick up an extra yard or three and finish off a run”
November 11th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
9. Yeah, we had some vets who knew how to get it done.
Tim Brown, Rice and especially Gannon led this team.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
12. It didn’t seem ridiculous the first few years.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
DMC helped our O line by making the first guy miss and by showing MUCH better field vision.
Seymour helped the D line simply by being an excellent defender.
Seems like a lead by example guy.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Not to you and tj but to me it did. Didnt you latch on to JaMeatloaf for 2 years as well?
Pattern of delusion..
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# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
12. It didn’t seem ridiculous the first few years.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Jerry give a lot of credit to DMC but getting Gallery back and replacing Mario with Veldheer was huge too.
Even Satele stepped up.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
In a 4/3 system the key is the 3tech and when that player is playing at this level Seymour is that defense is very tough to deal with. But what’sgoing unmentioned in this article is the paly of the MLB McClain he is the next mst important player in that scheme and when he forces at the POA it makes blockers come off Seymour and Kelly. If you don’t block McClain he will destroy your offense so it frees up the DT’s somewhat they work in concert and that is the reason this defense is so much better vs the run. The secondary isn’t dealing with Olineman it’s dealing with FB’s and TE’s big difference.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Seymour hypes me up, put me in coach!
November 11th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
It does matter who plays qb, we have two guys that can win a game. We also have an experienced starter that can beat you alot of different ways in Campbell.
If you have a subpar qb, you wont win in the nfl. If you have a turn over prone qb you will lose more than you win.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
We get everyone healthy and hopefully for the rest of the year…like RoMac said…things are getting scary around here!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Well, if Al Davis truly doesn’t want the team to win, now we know why. On pardon the interruption they were just debating as to who calls the shots in Oakland, Al or Cable. The last thing Al wants is this getting into the national sports discussion.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
A.B.
He does look like Jersey Shore material. Have you seen him do a fist pump ?
November 11th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
16. Fully accept responsibility for Russell. Didn’t know he was drunk half the time.
What a waste of talent and money and time…
DMC ran like **** the first few years and looked like another wasted 1st round DP.
Some of it was O line some of it was injury.
Just glad to see him starting to make the NFL look like the SEC.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Well, if Al Davis truly doesn’t want the team to win, now we know why. On pardon the interruption they were just debating as to who calls the shots in Oakland, Al or Cable. The last thing Al wants is this getting into the national sports discussion.
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So much BS.
This is the clueless media desperate to generate a story about the suddenly relevant Raiders.
These bozos have ZERO idea so they fall back on the old standard. “Davis the tyrant” or “QB controversy!”
Total and utter BS.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
In a 4/3 system the key is the 3tech and when that player is playing at this level Seymour is that defense is very tough to deal with. But what’sgoing unmentioned in this article is the paly of the MLB McClain he is the next mst important player in that scheme and when he forces at the POA it makes blockers come off Seymour and Kelly. If you don’t block McClain he will destroy your offense so it frees up the DT’s somewhat they work in concert and that is the reason this defense is so much better vs the run. The secondary isn’t dealing with Olineman it’s dealing with FB’s and TE’s big difference.
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This is why I cant understand the dislike for our young mlb. he is a major upgrade over captain kirk. i have been surprised by how good he is when he walks up on the line of scrimmage, pre snap. This kid makes plays in the gap, and behind the line, and rarely misses a tackle.
This dude will be one of the great mlb this franchise has ever had.
November 11th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
But all of this media hype is getting me worried a bit! I know Cable has done a good job with keeping them focused, but you know…it could blow up on him…lets hope that they nevermind the hype and keep blowing teams up!
November 11th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
I always thought highly of DMC but I thought we should’ve taken CJ instead and got a LT as well. But while I did criticise because he deserved it he now is a much different HB than the guy who arrived 2 years ago. I expect that same type incremental improve from DHB eventhough he gets a lot less opportunities to demonstrate it than DMC I think they will be dynamic weapons in the future of the offense.
I would’ve never thught DMC wuld be quite this good he is much better than I thought he ever would be he is much more physcical than I thought and he’s stringing moves together which you’d have to watch a year worth of film to see him do on one run now. He is at the very top of the league IMO almost MVP status if we win this division.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Well, if Al Davis truly doesn’t want the team to win, now we know why. On pardon the interruption they were just debating as to who calls the shots in Oakland, Al or Cable. The last thing Al wants is this getting into the national sports discussion.
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This is a reminder of who we are. the raiders are the most hated organization in all of sports.
We have a good thing going, and I respect cable, all he wants to do is coach. unlike some of these ego maniacs we have had in the past.
He is very shrewd in the way he works with davis, this doent make him a puppet, it makes him a valued employee.
They hate our gm, they hate our coach and qb. This is just more propaganda and conspiracy garbage that stand s in the stead of real information.
Cable said it best ” the owner runs the organization, I coach the team”
Some times simple is the best option.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
its been a long time since ive been upset that the raiders are on bye, and thats a good thing!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
29. Word. We don’t need the media or no stinking badges!
WE know the real deal…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Mystic1 McClain has the ability to be the very best MLB we have ever had, I loved Dan Conners and Matt Millen but together they aren’t McClain. He is a s physical as Millen was and athletic as Morrison. He is a beast.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
gotta step away talk to ya’ later
November 11th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I hate ESPN , Tom wackson , Colin cowhored and warren crap… Chris Bermans cool though
November 11th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I hate ESPN , Tom wackson , Colin cowhored and warren crap… Chris Bermans cool though
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You like Berman? He is as big a Raider hater as they come, check yourself fool.
Speaking of ESPN, there is an article claiming the Raiders are the next “America’s Team” taking over the Cowboys…
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=kreidler/101111
November 11th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
I have noticed that when ever we have a coach at odds with davis, the picture is painted that davis is impossible to work for. Whenever a coach works well with davis he is a puppet.
I hope all raider fans understand, why Davis is hands on. i hope all raider fans truly appreciate how fortunate we are to Davis, football legend handling our football ops.
He finally has someone he can trust. instead of a guy who has one foot out the door, like lance. A confrontational ego case that thinks he can do more than he is capable of, like gruden.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I just like the way he says RAAAAAIDERS! Go Raiders !
November 11th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I hate ESPN , Tom wackson , Colin cowhored and warren crap… Chris Bermans cool though
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I see you picked up fat jackass sapp, you forgot about
Tom Gorrilla face jackson and Shannon Horeseface Sharpe
November 11th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
The best way to shut the mediots up? Just win baby… they can’t handle it.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
OG, My bad you did pick up gorrilla face…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Best gorrila face moment was the broadcast after we dismantled the donks…Utter classic…he looked ready to cry….
November 11th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
OG-RAIDERRR Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
I just like the way he says RAAAAAIDERS! Go Raiders !
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It’s sarcastic dude…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I also forgot about Trent duchfer …
November 11th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
last but not least basehead irvin…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
44. Ha ha! the Cowboy coke machine…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Hell has frozen over…
Adam Scheftforbrains just said Cable was his mid-season coach of the year on BSPN…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Watching the presser for Todd Haley…dude, is that guy really Steven Wright moonlighting as a head coach in the NFL?
November 11th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Wow…
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Hell has frozen over…
Adam Scheftforbrains just said Cable was his mid-season coach of the year on BSPN…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
44. Ha ha! the Cowboy coke machine…
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Straight idiiot…
November 11th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Wow…
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Hell has frozen over…
Adam Scheftforbrains just said Cable was his mid-season coach of the year on BSPN…
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Schefter just reported every one at espn is available for trade, and the raiders are currently in talks for chris mortensen.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Hwnrdr, and perhaps others,
the worry about accolades from the media going to player’s heads and softening them could be legitimate, but it seems that teammates such as Seymour and Nnamdi and even McClain will drive any of those notions away with their focus and determination.
these are not the Cowgirls.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
I don’t like Adam Sphincter either. I don’t even watch BSPN, all Raider haters.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
The North Dallas 53 can be america’s team, the Raiders are a Global NATION.
November 11th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Guys like Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis and yes Richard Seymour….have the special gift of getting people next to them to play at their best level.
Did you all see that Ray Lewis interview on NFLN with Deion….if Seymour is bringing that…with young McClain learning as he goes…..man…DEFENSE
And when you play GREAT DEFENSE….you are ALWAYS in the game.
The games where the defense was GREAT….this team had a chance to win…..
Go Raiders!
November 11th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
All the talk about McFadden’s skinny legs and inability to break tackles seems ridiculous every time he lowers his shoulder and drives into a defender to pick up an extra yard or three and finish off a run.
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Boo Chimp, holla
November 11th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
That Seymour article is nothing less than encouraging and brings pride to a Raider.
DMC is running at a level that is Adrian Peter-esk. The moves he is making out there is stunning. His balance is impressive. His physicalness is impressive. His speed is there. This guy is running at a level beyond what we have seen in recent memory of RBs in Raider uniform. He is a dominating force.
Eventually DHB will get there. They have to get him the opportunities. I keep saying it – get the ball in his hands! He has a skill set that is just hard to contain. They have to get him going more. The Seahawks game was just a glance at what this kid can do.
You get these two going at the same time and this offense insofar as weapons looks unstoppable.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
The defense is playing lights out – no question. You have a TON of talent on that side of the ball. Mike Mitchell is going to be a serious playmaker for years to come. You can see it now. This guy makes so many plays for the amount of time he is on the field. That interception that Seymour article spoke of was caused by Mike Mitchell. The fumble recovery vs Seattle at the goal line was Mike Mitchell. The fumble recovery vs the Chiefs during the return again I beleive was Mike Mitchell. I’m sure there is more but this guy always seems to be in the mix.
I always backed Stanford and this year he is proving himself worthy. RoMac will be a force in the middle as many of you can already see.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
DHB really struggled on sunday. he dropped the first pass and then seemed to press when other throws came his way and he tanked.
It is not uncommon for young receivers to be up and down in the first couple of years. he has more up moments this year than down.
Go to him early, if he drops it come back to him on the next set of downs.
The qb gets a rhythm and the receivers play better when they get off early.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
RAIDERDAVE68 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Campbell is just a leaner version of Jabusto. With better work ethic. The only reason he is winning game is because we have a stellar defense and running game.
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Lol! Dumb post, but I agree with most of it. The more I watch JC, the more he kind of reminds me of JR, though I believe JR has twice as much talent. But I like the laid-back demeanor they have. Both have that poker face, and when the pressure gets ratcheted up late in games, they don’t flinch. I also like how neither give a damn about retarded faux fans who boo them and chant “Bruise” during games. And yes, both played well with a stellar D and running game, LIKE EVERY OTHER QB IN THE NFL. Hated JC when we traded for him, but I’m a convert now. And better days are ahead for JR,
THE NFL. No need for “spark plugs” on this team or any other for that matter.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
think Mcnabb wants to rethink going to the skins instead of the raiders.shanahan is a disaster…if cable/davis believe in sticking with campbell because he’s hot then they need to give some love to jacoby..in a year and a half dhb hasnt come close to want jacoby did against the chiefs..murphy and jacoby would be a nice combo,,,,
November 11th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
hwnrdr Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Watching the presser for Todd Haley…dude, is that guy really Steven Wright moonlighting as a head coach in the NFL?
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He once bought some powdered water…but wasn’t sure what to add…
Bought a map of the U.S. its actual size. One mile equals one mile…
November 11th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Go to him early, if he drops it come back to him on the next set of downs.
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At what point in time does Hue just decide to throw the ball to the guy who has the best chance to catch it?
DHB IS improving, but force-feeding him when you are 2-6 is a lot easier than we you are 5-4 and shooting for the playoffs.
If he can’t catch it on the first series, than bring in someone who can. He can work on his “growth” in the offseason and Monday-Saturday.
Sunday’s are for men who are producing, not boys trying to become men.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
DHB really struggled on sunday. he dropped the first pass and then seemed to press when other throws came his way and he tanked.
It is not uncommon for young receivers to be up and down in the first couple of years. he has more up moments this year than down.
Go to him early, if he drops it come back to him on the next set of downs.
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What’s the priority, to win the game, or baby sit DHB?
November 11th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
59. Russell had the potential to be a franchise QB and a dominant player.
Too bad he had his homies in his ear telling him to fug the game cuz he already had his millions.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
You can’t just keep going 3 & out, trying to feed DHB.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
63. DHB wasn’t targeted as much cuz of his “break out” game.
The first pass was a fraction high and late.
Not DHB’s fault…
November 11th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I know you’ve been tough on him Misic but I dont think he really struggled that game. Campbell was just all over the place throwing to him. I mean the guy was wide open by at least 10-15yds once when he moved with Campbell out of the pocket, but Campbell threw a pretty bad ball that he had to dive just to get the tips of his fingers on. And on the the deep strike to Ford that Ford dropped DHB was running close to him from the opposite side and also had steps on his man. He looked pretty frustrated that Campbell didn’t throw him the ball after the drop by Ford.
He may have had one drop but the rest of the times he was targeted were really far to difficult for any the best WRs to catch.
Campbell had a very rough outing vs the Chiefs. He pulled it together at the end and won the game; which counts – just don’t lose sight of that when trying to judge DHB during that game. I can see if he was dropping everything or couldn’t get open but that was not the case.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
I know what Jeremy Ware and Tyvon Branch are doing on their week off, living it up:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=168850773144310&set=a.151369651559089.26875.100000581647836
November 11th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
“It’s going to take time,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said. “You know everybody hates Al Davis. They’re going to jump on us any time that they can. But they can’t argue with the results.”
Like I have been saying all along
November 11th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
63. DHB wasn’t targeted as much cuz of his “break out” game.
The first pass was a fraction high and late.
Not DHB’s fault…
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WR’s have to make plays, too.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Go to him early, if he drops it come back to him on the next set of downs.
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At what point in time does Hue just decide to throw the ball to the guy who has the best chance to catch it?
DHB IS improving, but force-feeding him when you are 2-6 is a lot easier than we you are 5-4 and shooting for the playoffs.
If he can’t catch it on the first series, than bring in someone who can. He can work on his “growth” in the offseason and Monday-Saturday.
Sunday’s are for men who are producing, not boys trying to become men.
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6 catches for 105yds and 1 long td.
This says to me that you must get him going because when he becomes consistent he will be a force.
There have been lots of receivers that need the ball early to get going.
there have been plenty of guys that struggled early in their careers. one guy by the name of Cliff Branch was considered a bust for his first 3 years as a pro, and struggled with catching the ball.
We just need to be patient. Yes force feed him the ball, out side of ford , who else can make plays like these two?
November 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
No one is force feeding DHB. Thats just ridiculous. The guy would not be starting if he did not have such an impact on the offense. Like it or not. If he did not Hue would bench him just as he did Campbell. So shut it!
No one can reasonably say the balls Campbell though his way were actually “good” balls. I remember a few and they would have taken stick’em to catch!
November 11th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
No one is force feeding DHB. Thats just ridiculous. The guy would not be starting if he did not have such an impact on the offense.
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Ridiculous.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
DHB really struggled on sunday. he dropped the first pass and then seemed to press when other throws came his way and he tanked.
It is not uncommon for young receivers to be up and down in the first couple of years. he has more up moments this year than down.
Go to him early, if he drops it come back to him on the next set of downs.
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What’s the priority, to win the game, or baby sit DHB?
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i dont consider throwing the ball to your play maker number one draft pick baby sitting. i call it giving him an opportunity to become who we need him to be.
The kid is only 21 years old. The more chances he gets on the field the better he will get. This year compared to last year is night and day, even when you add sunday’s struggle.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
DHB Starts because he got a 30 million signing bonus, PERIOD.
Don’t be stupid.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
As if DHB is the only fast WR in the league, sheesh. Dumb.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Topic: PRIESTTJ
Normally I prefer the blog to focus on the team, not the personalities who make up the blog. But since we’re coming up on a bye weekend I thought I’d stray from the path a bit
I have been reading Jerry’s blog and the comments daily for years. Hands down the best source of Raider information on the web or radio. I enjoy the different personalities, characters and debates… but one poster here stands out to me as an enigma: Priesttj.
Nobody can question his love of Raider Football and for that reason I consider him a brother. He posts often and passionately. However he does tend to write with a very condescending tone. Savagely ridiculing every other person on the blog who does not agree with him and questioning their intelligence. As though he were the only person in here who really knows the game. For this reason I did not like him at first, I found him to be very abrasive. But at the same time I did enjoy hearing what he had to say. He does seem to possess an impressive knowledge of how the game is played from an X’s & O’s standpoint. I also feel that he has a very good insight into how the organization is realistically run (not the wild conjecture that most want to imagine about Al calling the plays from the booth)
At the same time, he seems completely inept at judging talent. He has swung and missed at three of the most important acquisitions in recent history.
* Darren McFadden – He was adamantly against us drafting him and guaranteed us all that DMAC and his skinny legs could not play at this level. No need to even address this miss of monumental proportions.
* Jamarcus Russell – Even now he (and his disciple Debo) continues to inexplicably laud this kid’s potential and talent. Refusing to admit what the world acknowledges as the biggest bust in sports history. Jamarcus Russell is the not only the worst QB I have ever seen, I would go so far as to say he is the worst professional athlete at any sport. He showed no hint of potential. No mechanics. No grasp of the game. No leadership. No accuracy. He was an abortion. Period.
* Jason Campbell – is clearly a poor quarterback. Terribly inaccurate, and makes bad decisions. Yes they are both black, but this has nothing to do with race, it just so happens that both Russell and Campbell do not possess the mental capacity needed to play in the modern era of the NFL. There are plenty of examples of highly intelligent black players all over the league and on our team. It just so happens they are not two of them. They cannot read defenses and make adjustments. Its to the point where both of them often just stare at the ass of the center as they break the huddle and walk up to the line of scrimmage. You don’t see them scanning the defense for formations, personnel, and mismatches – because they wouldn’t recognize them if they saw them. They can only repeat in their head who the primary receiver is over and over in their head. You can sense they are uncomfortable playing at this level and the game is too big for them. Look at Campbell’s face, you can read the self-doubt all over it. He is NOT responsible for our 4 of the last 5 wins. AIG has broken down each game and showed how Campbell merely rode the coat tails of other players who stepped up. He cannot lead. He holds onto the ball too long. He only looks at his primary receiver. He foolishly throws into triple coverage while possessing the most inaccurate arm in the game. We won the KC game despite Campbell. We won due to 1.) Ford’s herculean effort, grabbing Campbell’s errant passes. 2.) Chiefs dropping a sure interception 3.) our defense stepping up and stopping KC every time we needed them to, especially in OT.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe he’s watching the same game I am when it comes to evaluating talent. He sees skill where I see gross incompetence. But he does have good football knowledge and therein lies the enigma. I compare him to a coach who is a good coordinator but a terrible head coach.
Having said this, I will admit that I agree with most everything he says regarding raider football aside from player/personnel. I especially like his loyalty to Mr. Davis. I heard him call into the 860AM Rick Tittle show and to my surprise he sounds like a genuinely nice guy, but the past tone of his posts have created a powerful backlash of resentment from other posters (MistaBrown). Priest if you would stop calling everyone who disagrees with your opinions morons, and admit that some of your predictions have been a little “off” you would probably realize that there are other intelligent fans in here and it would be a much more pleasurable experience. Just a thought. We’re all rooting for the same team.
When Campbell takes the field against the Pittsburgh I’ll be rooting for him, but I’m afraid they will stack the LOS and make Campbell beat us through the air. When they do this he will be exposed as a sub-par QB. I hope I’m wrong. Keep posting Priest, you keep things interesting!
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
DHB, number #1 playmaker????? What dream was that?
November 11th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Anyway. Some of you just like to argue. I have no quarrels with a good argument and DHB right now is a lightening rod – as was DMC at one point, same for the druggy QB. Heck even, Seymour received no love at one point.
On the QB, like I said in a prior post, Campbell has earned the opportunity to continue starting. He has improved his play no doubt. He is letting ‘er rip more than before and thats what you have to do in this offense. I do think Bruce is a step ahead of him in running this offense with these players, but Campbell has earned the opportunity. Lets see how far he can take it. Lets see how far he can grow in this offense. But he is on a short leash with Grads only a call away.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
NoPassingZone, do you work for the Raiders, or are you TJ’s lover?
November 11th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
# TerrapinRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I know you’ve been tough on him Misic but I dont think he really struggled that game. Campbell was just all over the place throwing to him. I mean the guy was wide open by at least 10-15yds once when he moved with Campbell out of the pocket, but Campbell threw a pretty bad ball that he had to dive just to get the tips of his fingers on. And on the the deep strike to Ford that Ford dropped DHB was running close to him from the opposite side and also had steps on his man. He looked pretty frustrated that Campbell didn’t throw him the ball after the drop by Ford.
He may have had one drop but the rest of the times he was targeted were really far to difficult for any the best WRs to catch.
Campbell had a very rough outing vs the Chiefs. He pulled it together at the end and won the game; which counts – just don’t lose sight of that when trying to judge DHB during that game. I can see if he was dropping everything or couldn’t get open but that was not the case.
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You must have confused me with some one else. i think DHb will become a very good receiver. I think he is just very young and inexperienced with football. but his natural gifts of size, speed, and power are unmatched. his hands are improving, by leaps and bounds. his commitment cant be questioned.
The next step for him is to be able to put back to back games together. Instead of 6 catches one week, and 0 catches the next.
Also he must continue to improve his hands. There was the one pass campbell was hit as he threw and missed DHB badly.
Every other pass hit DHB in the hands. they would have been tough catches, but those are precisely the kind of catches that your number one receiver must be. Those are the catches we saw ford make. The qb will not often ba able to be perfect.
difference between ford and DHB, ford played football since 5-6 years old, ran track when he got older. DHB just started playing football in high school, again he is only 21, that is only a few years of experience.
I really like the kid, we should not give up on him so soon. he just needs time.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
KK then why did it take DMC so long to sart he made more, you’re so full of crap you stink.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
KK then why did it take DMC so long to sart he made more, you’re so full of crap you stink.
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Jibberish.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
You don’t cut a guy you just paid 40million $$ to for a journeyman backup if your prioities aren’t winning. Take your head out of your arse BOY.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
You don’t cut a guy you just paid 40million $$ to for a journeyman backup if your prioities aren’t winning. Take your head out of your arse BOY.
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More Jibberish
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
DHB, number #1 playmaker????? What dream was that?
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It wasnt a dream it was in the coliseum, vs. the seahawk.
6 for 105 and 70 yd td. On this day he was our number one and a playmaker
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
This is a reminder of who we are. the raiders are the most hated organization in all of sports.
We have a good thing going, and I respect cable, all he wants to do is coach. unlike some of these ego maniacs we have had in the past.
He is very shrewd in the way he works with davis, this doent make him a puppet, it makes him a valued employee.
They hate our gm, they hate our coach and qb. This is just more propaganda and conspiracy garbage that stand s in the stead of real information.
Cable said it best ” the owner runs the organization, I coach the team”
Some times simple is the best option.
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OK…sooo……who decides who starts at QB, then? Seems to me ESPN is asking a fair question.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
KK if you can’t stand the heat, you know what they say? go to bed…….real men make sense and you’re bastardizing basic common sense.
You own premise was refuted and you ran like a girl.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
NoPassingZone Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Topic: PRIESTTJ
Normally I prefer the blog to focus on the team, not the personalities who make up the blog. But since we’re coming up on a bye weekend I thought I’d stray from the path a bit
I have been reading Jerry’s blog and the comments daily for years. Hands down the best source of Raider information on the web or radio. I enjoy the different personalities, characters and debates… but one poster here stands out to me as an enigma: Priesttj.
Nobody can question his love of Raider Football and for that reason I consider him a brother. He posts often and passionately. However he does tend to write with a very condescending tone. Savagely ridiculing every other person on the blog who does not agree with him and questioning their intelligence. As though he were the only person in here who really knows the game. For this reason I did not like him at first, I found him to be very abrasive. But at the same time I did enjoy hearing what he had to say. He does seem to possess an impressive knowledge of how the game is played from an X’s & O’s standpoint. I also feel that he has a very good insight into how the organization is realistically run (not the wild conjecture that most want to imagine about Al calling the plays from the booth)
At the same time, he seems completely inept at judging talent. He has swung and missed at three of the most important acquisitions in recent history.
* Darren McFadden – He was adamantly against us drafting him and guaranteed us all that DMAC and his skinny legs could not play at this level. No need to even address this miss of monumental proportions.
* Jamarcus Russell – Even now he (and his disciple Debo) continues to inexplicably laud this kid’s potential and talent. Refusing to admit what the world acknowledges as the biggest bust in sports history. Jamarcus Russell is the not only the worst QB I have ever seen, I would go so far as to say he is the worst professional athlete at any sport. He showed no hint of potential. No mechanics. No grasp of the game. No leadership. No accuracy. He was an abortion. Period.
* Jason Campbell – is clearly a poor quarterback. Terribly inaccurate, and makes bad decisions. Yes they are both black, but this has nothing to do with race, it just so happens that both Russell and Campbell do not possess the mental capacity needed to play in the modern era of the NFL. There are plenty of examples of highly intelligent black players all over the league and on our team. It just so happens they are not two of them. They cannot read defenses and make adjustments. Its to the point where both of them often just stare at the ass of the center as they break the huddle and walk up to the line of scrimmage. You don’t see them scanning the defense for formations, personnel, and mismatches – because they wouldn’t recognize them if they saw them. They can only repeat in their head who the primary receiver is over and over in their head. You can sense they are uncomfortable playing at this level and the game is too big for them. Look at Campbell’s face, you can read the self-doubt all over it. He is NOT responsible for our 4 of the last 5 wins. AIG has broken down each game and showed how Campbell merely rode the coat tails of other players who stepped up. He cannot lead. He holds onto the ball too long. He only looks at his primary receiver. He foolishly throws into triple coverage while possessing the most inaccurate arm in the game. We won the KC game despite Campbell. We won due to 1.) Ford’s herculean effort, grabbing Campbell’s errant passes. 2.) Chiefs dropping a sure interception 3.) our defense stepping up and stopping KC every time we needed them to, especially in OT.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe he’s watching the same game I am when it comes to evaluating talent. He sees skill where I see gross incompetence. But he does have good football knowledge and therein lies the enigma. I compare him to a coach who is a good coordinator but a terrible head coach.
Having said this, I will admit that I agree with most everything he says regarding raider football aside from player/personnel. I especially like his loyalty to Mr. Davis. I heard him call into the 860AM Rick Tittle show and to my surprise he sounds like a genuinely nice guy, but the past tone of his posts have created a powerful backlash of resentment from other posters (MistaBrown). Priest if you would stop calling everyone who disagrees with your opinions morons, and admit that some of your predictions have been a little “off” you would probably realize that there are other intelligent fans in here and it would be a much more pleasurable experience. Just a thought. We’re all rooting for the same team.
When Campbell takes the field against the Pittsburgh I’ll be rooting for him, but I’m afraid they will stack the LOS and make Campbell beat us through the air. When they do this he will be exposed as a sub-par QB. I hope I’m wrong. Keep posting Priest, you keep things interesting!
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Blah blah blah. This post is so original. So you hate JR and JC. Didn’t need to write a novel to get your point across dude. Let ne guess: you want JC to stink it up against Pittsburgh and hope we lose like Aig, right?
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Man the Falcons have some ugly helmets. I don’t remember thm being that ugly
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
The way Chris Berman says “Raiders” isnt sarcastic he’s been saying it like that since the 80’s when we were dominant.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
DHB, number #1 playmaker????? What dream was that?
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It wasnt a dream it was in the coliseum, vs. the seahawk.
6 for 105 and 70 yd td. On this day he was our number one and a playmaker
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Stupid.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
This is a reminder of who we are. the raiders are the most hated organization in all of sports.
We have a good thing going, and I respect cable, all he wants to do is coach. unlike some of these ego maniacs we have had in the past.
He is very shrewd in the way he works with davis, this doent make him a puppet, it makes him a valued employee.
They hate our gm, they hate our coach and qb. This is just more propaganda and conspiracy garbage that stand s in the stead of real information.
Cable said it best ” the owner runs the organization, I coach the team”
Some times simple is the best option.
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OK…sooo……who decides who starts at QB, then? Seems to me ESPN is asking a fair question.
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First of all its not our concern. The owner is free to do what ever he wishes, it is his team. the coach should do just that coach.
We dont know other than what cable said, he decides who plays. Anything outside of the account we are given by cable is pure speculation.
People hate davis and the raiders secretive ways, and they hate campbell.
You fit into both categories right?
Im with Al and Cable, basically cable told the media its none of your business now butt out.
November 11th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
NoPassingZone Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Topic: PRIESTTJ
Normally I prefer the blog to focus on the team, not the personalities who make up the blog. But since we’re coming up on a bye weekend I thought I’d stray from the path a bit
I have been reading Jerry’s blog and the comments daily for years. Hands down the best source of Raider information on the web or radio. I enjoy the different personalities, characters and debates… but one poster here stands out to me as an enigma: Priesttj.
Nobody can question his love of Raider Football and for that reason I consider him a brother. He posts often and passionately. However he does tend to write with a very condescending tone. Savagely ridiculing every other person on the blog who does not agree with him and questioning their intelligence. As though he were the only person in here who really knows the game. For this reason I did not like him at first, I found him to be very abrasive. But at the same time I did enjoy hearing what he had to say. He does seem to possess an impressive knowledge of how the game is played from an X’s & O’s standpoint. I also feel that he has a very good insight into how the organization is realistically run (not the wild conjecture that most want to imagine about Al calling the plays from the booth)
At the same time, he seems completely inept at judging talent. He has swung and missed at three of the most important acquisitions in recent history.
* Darren McFadden – He was adamantly against us drafting him and guaranteed us all that DMAC and his skinny legs could not play at this level. No need to even address this miss of monumental proportions.
* Jamarcus Russell – Even now he (and his disciple Debo) continues to inexplicably laud this kid’s potential and talent. Refusing to admit what the world acknowledges as the biggest bust in sports history. Jamarcus Russell is the not only the worst QB I have ever seen, I would go so far as to say he is the worst professional athlete at any sport. He showed no hint of potential. No mechanics. No grasp of the game. No leadership. No accuracy. He was an abortion. Period.
* Jason Campbell – is clearly a poor quarterback. Terribly inaccurate, and makes bad decisions. Yes they are both black, but this has nothing to do with race, it just so happens that both Russell and Campbell do not possess the mental capacity needed to play in the modern era of the NFL. There are plenty of examples of highly intelligent black players all over the league and on our team. It just so happens they are not two of them. They cannot read defenses and make adjustments. Its to the point where both of them often just stare at the ass of the center as they break the huddle and walk up to the line of scrimmage. You don’t see them scanning the defense for formations, personnel, and mismatches – because they wouldn’t recognize them if they saw them. They can only repeat in their head who the primary receiver is over and over in their head. You can sense they are uncomfortable playing at this level and the game is too big for them. Look at Campbell’s face, you can read the self-doubt all over it. He is NOT responsible for our 4 of the last 5 wins. AIG has broken down each game and showed how Campbell merely rode the coat tails of other players who stepped up. He cannot lead. He holds onto the ball too long. He only looks at his primary receiver. He foolishly throws into triple coverage while possessing the most inaccurate arm in the game. We won the KC game despite Campbell. We won due to 1.) Ford’s herculean effort, grabbing Campbell’s errant passes. 2.) Chiefs dropping a sure interception 3.) our defense stepping up and stopping KC every time we needed them to, especially in OT.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe he’s watching the same game I am when it comes to evaluating talent. He sees skill where I see gross incompetence. But he does have good football knowledge and therein lies the enigma. I compare him to a coach who is a good coordinator but a terrible head coach.
Having said this, I will admit that I agree with most everything he says regarding raider football aside from player/personnel. I especially like his loyalty to Mr. Davis. I heard him call into the 860AM Rick Tittle show and to my surprise he sounds like a genuinely nice guy, but the past tone of his posts have created a powerful backlash of resentment from other posters (MistaBrown). Priest if you would stop calling everyone who disagrees with your opinions morons, and admit that some of your predictions have been a little “off” you would probably realize that there are other intelligent fans in here and it would be a much more pleasurable experience. Just a thought. We’re all rooting for the same team.
When Campbell takes the field against the Pittsburgh I’ll be rooting for him, but I’m afraid they will stack the LOS and make Campbell beat us through the air. When they do this he will be exposed as a sub-par QB. I hope I’m wrong. Keep posting Priest, you keep things interesting!
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Blah blah blah. This post is so original. So you hate JR and JC. Didn’t need to write a novel to get your point across dude. Let ne guess: you want JC to stink it up against Pittsburgh and hope we lose like Aig, right?
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Re-read the last paragraph you jackass!
November 11th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
DHB, number #1 playmaker????? What dream was that?
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It wasnt a dream it was in the coliseum, vs. the seahawk.
6 for 105 and 70 yd td. On this day he was our number one and a playmaker
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Stupid.
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KK im not sure what is stupid.
on that sunday he wasnt just the best raider receiver, he was one of the best players on the field!
The numbers and the film say so. by the way did you watch that game?
November 11th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Mystic, it’s not our concern? What does that mean? The media has every right to ask a question as to who decides which QB starts on a football team, owner or coach. That’s called a FREE PRESS. That’s not anti Raider propaganda. It’s a perfectly legitimate question to ask who decides who starts at QB.
Are you basically saying you don’t know who makes the decision? If that’s the case, ESPN is way ahead of you. At least they’re asking the question.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
I have never heard anywhere that people hate Campbell. Al Davis yes alot of people hate Big Al. Campbell has done nothing significant to warrant hateing him.Nobody gives a crap about Campbell,hes just another mediocre qb that will be out of the league in a couple of years.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
BTW, 860 Todd Christensen, I don’t know if you’ve been here today or not to answer my question I left for you last night. You were upset with me for insisting that certain players are to thank for our success, demeaning a “team effort”, as you put it. So I ask again…do we or do we not win last week if Jacoby Ford isn’t in the lineup?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
First of all its not our concern. The owner is free to do what ever he wishes, it is his team. the coach should do just that coach.
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Sure, and the fans are entitled not to show up, or rag on the Owner/GM on blogs.
It’s all good.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Mystic, it’s not our concern? What does that mean? The media has every right to ask a question as to who decides which QB starts on a football team, owner or coach. That’s called a FREE PRESS. That’s not anti Raider propaganda. It’s a perfectly legitimate question to ask who decides who starts at QB.
Are you basically saying you don’t know who makes the decision
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RMR you would be better off actually reading what i post at face value rather than looking for esoteric meanings behind the post.
No it is not our concern who decides the qb. that is up to the team, just as it is not our concern who decides whats on the lunch menu during training camp.
This question was asked because of the article that came out here in the bay that made the claim ( from the so called unnamed source) that davis forced cable’s hand.
real raider fans know that Davis is hated by the media. They will stop at nothing to paint a picture of a miserable old tyrant in steady decline. the question may have been journalistic diligence. however the article that spawned it was a clear attempt to stoke the fires of the old stand by raiders puppet coach propaganda.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
lol. Good point, Kell. Al can do what he wants. If they fans decided they no longer wanted to go to games, Al would no longer be able to do what he wanted, he’d have to change his ways to get his consumer base back. Al doesn’t do what he wants because he’s a maverick. He does what he wants because he has a constituency that supports him financially no matter what he does, because they’ve bought into his brand. Al’s one of the best target marketers in the history of corporate America. Maverick? I dunno. He’s a businessman. Let’s be honest.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
that’s probably why 8 out of 10 proscouts thought he was the best talent in the draft because he had no skills whatsoever. At worst Russell was a top 5 pick in most scouting services. Mel Kiper whm I can’t stand, proclaimed him the savior of the Raider Nation.
At his pro-day one scout wh’s higly thought of said it was the single best workout he’d EVER seen in the 10 years he was doing that job. So for you to come out and say the guy had no grasp of the game. And it’s obvious AIG is your hero. Which says it all IMO.
Take a hike fool you’re here to start crap and I aint the one……………..sorry!!
November 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Mystic, fair enough. So then, could you just answer the question? Who decides who the Raiders’ starting QB is? Al, or Cable?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
First of all its not our concern.
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If that’s the case why are you blowing hot air about Campbell/Gradkowski 24/7?
It’s not your freakin concern.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
When Campbell takes the field against the Pittsburgh I’ll be rooting for him, but I’m afraid they will stack the LOS and make Campbell beat us through the air. When they do this he will be exposed as a sub-par QB. I hope I’m wrong. Keep posting Priest, you keep things interesting!
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Blah blah blah. This post is so original. So you hate JR and JC. Didn’t need to write a novel to get your point across dude. Let ne guess: you want JC to stink it up against Pittsburgh and hope we lose like Aig, right?
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Re-read the last paragraph you jackass!
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I read it alright, and it rings as hollow as your head. Now cut the passive-agressive BS and say what you really feel. You want JC, and therefore the Raiders to fail against Pittsburgh. You sound like such a little weasel.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
# RAIDERDAVE68 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
I have never heard anywhere that people hate Campbell. Al Davis yes alot of people hate Big Al. Campbell has done nothing significant to warrant hateing him.Nobody gives a crap about Campbell,hes just another mediocre qb that will be out of the league in a couple of years.
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Sorry bra, couldnt be further from the truth. There is one poster in particular that is a self proclaimed member of the “campbell hate club”. his words not mine.
most people have said they dont think he can play, some others went far beyond that point.
Im afraid indeed there those who have truly expressed hat for him in no uncertain terms.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
First of all its not our concern.
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If that’s the case why are you blowing hot air about Campbell/Gradkowski 24/7?
It’s not your freakin concern.
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HA HA!!!
Kell, you’re on fire today. Well played.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
lol. Good point, Kell. Al can do what he wants. If they fans decided they no longer wanted to go to games, Al would no longer be able to do what he wanted, he’d have to change his ways to get his consumer base back. Al doesn’t do what he wants because he’s a maverick. He does what he wants because he has a constituency that supports him financially no matter what he does, because they’ve bought into his brand. Al’s one of the best target marketers in the history of corporate America. Maverick? I dunno. He’s a businessman. Let’s be honest.
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Football is a business, whats your point?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
My point was merely an agreement with Kell’s point, Mystic. That Al really doesn’t do what he wants, as many of his loyal fans have claimed. He’s beholden to his consumer base, like all businesses.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Mystic, who decides who starts at QB? Davis or Cable?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
they not only hate him they’re passionate in their hatred toward him. As if he laid one on their girlfriend. They worship Grads as if he won a SB for us. They’re envious of anything JC does positive and go through extensive lengths to disprove and deny him any credit whatsoever.
Sometimes I wonder if they’re family members of GradsI mean I’m glad we have him because I’m not absolutely sure about Campbell but my god these idiots act like they have an alter biult or shrine dedicated to him. It’s crazy.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Hell has frozen over…
Adam Scheftforbrains just said Cable was his mid-season coach of the year on BSPN…
guy wants inside the Raider nation bad, straight ballwashing
November 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
I don’t think people hate Campbell. I just think people on this blog are greatly disappointed by his skills as I am as well.I personally thought Campbell would be good in our system but we really have less weapons than the Redskins had and he accomplished nada there. Does that make me hate Campbell? No, its just being aware of his lack of ability. I wish I could parade around saying we have a true starter in Campbell but that would be a lie.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
RMR, as you know very few posters in here have the integrity to admit wrong. Especially the ideological groupies who follow Al Davis.
They just keep digging a deeper illogical hole
November 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Mistic1,
You mention Cliff Branch and his struggles in his early career.
Well in his third year he had 1100 yards and let the NFL with 13 receiving TD’s.
If DHB puts up 750 yards and 4 TD’s next year, the team should do back-flips.
DHB is waaaaaaaaaaay behind schedule of any moderately great WR who ever played the game.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
whats crazy is how fast the media is jumping on the raiders bandwagon
November 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Mystic, …..who decides who starts at QB? Al or Cable?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Terrapin, it’s the media’s job to report on a team that wins 3 games straight, the 3rd winning being against its division leader. It’s not a bandwagon. It’s journalism.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
First of all its not our concern.
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If that’s the case why are you blowing hot air about Campbell/Gradkowski 24/7?
It’s not your freakin concern.
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it really isnt. Who ever they put out there I root for weather or not I think he is the right pick.
To answer your question though. i think Campbell is solid. i think most people here knew nothing about him other than sport center and internet. i think he was shafted in dc, played for a lousy foreskins team that was more clueless than us. people jumped all over him when he struggled early. Even though I can name a million qbs that have changed teams for the first time and struggled in the beginning. i said he needs time here, most wanted to run him out of town after 6 quarters.
When the question of who is a better qb came up i weighed in with my opinion. i was met with insults, and very few real football takes, and even fewer takes that were stated with evidence of any kind, stats or examples or the like.
Almost half of the criticim early came from ” my uncle who lives near dc went to a game and said”.
people spread false hoods about him here. They said he wasnt mobile, that he wasnt a leader, that he isnt accurate, he isn clutch. and he cant win.
This was a bunch of hype and each week he is proving the hype to be a bunch of bs. he is putting up respectable numbers and most of all we are winning.
two blow out wins and two come from behind wins in division to end streaks.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
yooo hooo, Mystic….who decides who’s going to start QB for the Raiders? Cable or Davis?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
DHB is on pace for 35 catches 500 yards and 2 TD’s this year
Or also known as one month for Kenny Britt and Hakeem Nicks, two guys drafted after DHB.
Love the kids energy and effort and he his team-first attitude.
But can he at least get a catch after his best career day? One stinking catch, not two drops?
DHB = easily the worst starter for the 5-4 Oakland Raiders
November 11th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Cliff Branch started 1 game in his first 2 years, ok?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Mistic, clear up one “falsehood” right now. The media is asking who really makes the QB decision in Oakland. Clear it up right now, and just tell us who makes the call.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Terrapin, it’s the media’s job to report on a team that wins 3 games straight, the 3rd winning being against its division leader. It’s not a bandwagon. It’s journalism.
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They report what’s happening. Boy these are delusional.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
that’s probably why 8 out of 10 proscouts thought he was the best talent in the draft because he had no skills whatsoever. At worst Russell was a top 5 pick in most scouting services. Mel Kiper whm I can’t stand, proclaimed him the savior of the Raider Nation.
At his pro-day one scout wh’s higly thought of said it was the single best workout he’d EVER seen in the 10 years he was doing that job. So for you to come out and say the guy had no grasp of the game. And it’s obvious AIG is your hero. Which says it all IMO.
Take a hike fool you’re here to start crap and I aint the one……………..sorry!!
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It doesn’t matter what you, I or anyone thought of him prior to the draft. I was happy when we drafted him. Regardless of anyone’s opinion of him before the draft, the fact remains he was terrible as a pro. If he had shown any grasp or aptitude for the position he would be on someone’s roster. Are all the writers all the coaches, and all the owners wrong. The difference is that after seeing him play all of those scouts, Al Davis, the coaches, and 99% of the fans freely admit that he was a very bad football player.
I’m not here to start sht, just shocked that you saw so much talent and potential in him. It seems that you’re seeing this same talent in JC where many of us are not. Rather than attack me, why not elaborate on what you positives you see in Campbell?
I have no heroes in here, it’s a blog. I happen to agree with AIG’s evaluation on Campbell. I agree with you on most of your posts.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
My problem with Campbell is he lacks confidence,lacks heart and his arm is very inconsistant. He doesn’t run the offense with a good flow like Bruce does. I think he is head and shoulders above J Russell but I still think Bruce gives us a better chance of winning when healthy. Mainly because Bruce seems to have chemistry with Murphy and Campbell does not. Bruce may not be as skilled as Campbell but he moves the chains and he moves the offense with a rapid tempo.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Mistic, it’s too bad you can’t debunk thee haters right now and just tell us who really calls the shots as to who starts at QB in Oakland. I guess we still have to wait and see what the media comes up with. I was hoping you’d clear it up.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
# RAIDERDAVE68 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
I don’t think people hate Campbell. I just think people on this blog are greatly disappointed by his skills as I am as well.I personally thought Campbell would be good in our system but we really have less weapons than the Redskins had and he accomplished nada there. Does that make me hate Campbell? No, its just being aware of his lack of ability. I wish I could parade around saying we have a true starter in Campbell but that would be a lie.
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Seriously bra, i wouldnt have used the word hate, if it hadnt been used in this blog. They have used that exact word “hate”.
You dont like his play that is your choice, none can convince another in matters of opinion.
I dont aggree that he accomplished nada. i also disagree that he had more weapons. santana moss is ok, he could have started here a few years back, he has really slowed down the last couple of years. Cooley is a good player.
But the o-line hasnt been very good, there was coaching turn over, and zorn was a disaster, the players hated him. there was a mutiny on the coaching staff, and in management. The team was in total disarray after gibbs left.
Some how Campbell was able to post decent seasons and improve every year.
Campbell will be fine with a little stability around hm and more time in this offense and on this team.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
When the Raiders are the laughingstock, it’s reported. When they win 3 in a row, it’s reported. It’s the freakin media.
What is it about that, that you Davis worshippers don’t understand?
November 11th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
yooo hooo, Mystic….who decides who’s going to start QB for the Raiders? Cable or Davis?
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Are you still here?
I dont know. Only davis and cable can answer that.
Here is my take on it. If it was Davis im fine with it, he knows what he is doing, our trophy case says so.
If it was cable, good call. campbell is delivering wins.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Well Mistic I hope you are right. I have been a die hard Raider Fan since 1975.Whoever is representing the Oakland Raiders I will support. He just needs to pick up the tempo and make quicker reads.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Here is my take on it. If it was Davis im fine with it, he knows what he is doing, our trophy case says so.
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The Trophy case says he knew what he was doing 25 years ago.
The Record for the last 20 years says he doesn’t know what he’s doing, now.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
So, Mistic, you don’t know either! Most pro sports teams disclose who makes the decisions as to their starting lineups, Mistic. The media has every right to try to figure out who’s making such decisions in Oakland. Cable says he’s the decider. Yet he’s also said once that Gradkowski’s his guy. All the while, Campbell seems to be the long term starter. If the media didn’t delve into this, Mistic, they simply wouldn’t be doing their jobs. The media’s job is not to just show Raider highlights and pretend their front office doesn’t exist.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Mistic1,
You mention Cliff Branch and his struggles in his early career.
Well in his third year he had 1100 yards and let the NFL with 13 receiving TD’s.
If DHB puts up 750 yards and 4 TD’s next year, the team should do back-flips.
DHB is waaaaaaaaaaay behind schedule of any moderately great WR who ever played the game.
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Cliff Branch should be in the hall of fame. he was lightly regarded when Davis drafted him, and was labeled a bust early in his career. he had a problem catching the ball. davis was patient and it paid off.
i would never say DHB is the next Branch, my point is receivers may struggle in the first few years, you need to be patient.
Modern example roddy white.Did any one here see him early? I did vick would put the ball right on the money and he would drop it. He was brutal, look at him now.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Mistic, the Raiders’ trophy case proves Al Davis knows what he’s doing? The last trophy in there is dated 1984!
November 11th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Here is my take on it. If it was Davis im fine with it, he knows what he is doing, our trophy case says so.
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The Trophy case says he knew what he was doing 25 years ago.
The Record for the last 20 years says he doesn’t know what he’s doing, now.
Your own logic, fella. Think about it.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
# RAIDERDAVE68 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Well Mistic I hope you are right. I have been a die hard Raider Fan since 1975.Whoever is representing the Oakland Raiders I will support. He just needs to pick up the tempo and make quicker reads.
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I agree with you he must continue to improve. this is his shot, over the next year or two we will find out if he is good or not.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Silly. Later.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Thats why I haven’t posted in a while. Raiders win 3 games straight, actually in the playoff hunt half way through the season, and you guys still complain about players trying to get “your” guy on the field.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Mistic, the Raiders’ trophy case proves Al Davis knows what he’s doing? The last trophy in there is dated 1984!
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RMR you do realize that there only a handful of teams with the hard ware we have? Including an afl title and 3 lombardies.
You do realize that there are many teams with ZERO superbowl victories?
How long did it take the colts to get back to the superbowl after they lost to the jets?
How long have the jets been trying to get back since joe namath gave them their one sb win?
What about philly, or the bears, or the bills? The vikings havent even been to the superbowl since tarkenton.
i could go on, but i wouldnt trade my favorite team or their history to be a fan of all those also rans and runners up.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Here is my take on it. If it was Davis im fine with it, he knows what he is doing, our trophy case says so.
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The Trophy case says he knew what he was doing 25 years ago.
The Record for the last 20 years says he doesn’t know what he’s doing, now.
Your own logic, fella. Think about it.
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I disagree, the results on the field today, and just a few years ago in 2002 says he still got it.
In pro sports 25 years isnt that long of a wait for the ultimate prize. there are only 4 teams that have won the superbowl more often than we have.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
God exmaple mistic, maybe DHB needs a vet WR.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/13686/roddy-white-has-become-consistency-model
November 11th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Good* not god
November 11th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Well I have heard a few examples of guys who struggled in their early career, Branch, Roddy White, Dwayne Bowe…..etc.
I will say they all came into their own in their 3rd year. Each one of those guys were DOMINANT in their 3rd year. Not good, not getting better, 70 catch 1200+ yards, 8+ TD’s dominant.
I would love anything within 20% of that from DHB next year.
November 11th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Well it may seem like a lot of things stupid kid I haven’t said anything about JC like I did Russell JC is JC and Russell is Russell. They are nowhere near each other nor anything like each other. Russell was much more highly touted than JC ever was. I’m not sure about JC and have said so a ton of times.
If you’re too stupid to tell the difference it’s your problem. Now leave me alone and go play on the freeway.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
111.priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
they not only hate him they’re passionate in their hatred toward him. As if he laid one on their girlfriend. They worship Grads as if he won a SB for us. They’re envious of anything JC does positive and go through extensive lengths to disprove and deny him any credit whatsoever.
Sometimes I wonder if they’re family members of GradsI mean I’m glad we have him because I’m not absolutely sure about Campbell but my god these idiots act like they have an alter biult or shrine dedicated to him. It’s crazy.
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Priesttj,
That’s my problem with the argument here. Its not really about JC, its this BELIEF that Gradkowski is the MAN!
That’s what gets me a little irritated. Gradkowski has done nothing man. He provided a lift when the team was FLAT on its azz last year. Had Garcia not quit the team, we’d be talking about him right now.
I don’t hate Gradkowski. In fact, I was all cool with him being the starter after the Rams game…but you gotta respect results and JC has delivered…
Not parsing every throw and all this NITPICKING that these guys are doing in here. Its pathetic.
I’ll trust Al Davis, Tom Cable and Hue Jackson on this one!
Go Raiders!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
T’pin they not only try to get their player on the field they hate on the other player so hard you wonder are they a fan of the team or a fan of THAT player.
We all have favorites no problem there, but damn man the constant bickering back and forth and hateful comments about our own players it gets to the point where you ask yourself do they know we have a winning record for the first time in 7 years? What’s the problem??? so what he’s not your guy we’re winning isn’t that enough??
Let it goooooooooo!!!………..period
November 11th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Flacco is having a pretty crappy 1st half……so what.
You measure the results of the GAME!
“YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!” HELLLO! “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!”
~NOT THE HALF
November 11th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Mistic, all of those teams you’ve mentioned have changed GMs at some point in their slumps.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Been gone for over two hours and the debate is still the same in here…haha! Come on guys…JC is the starter…whether Al Davis said so or not…we have to support the man that is paid to run our offense! I have a funny feeling that if we lose to the Steelers, that the Miami game at home on the 28th is going to be blacked out again! Doesn’t matter to me though…
November 11th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
The reason Mistic won’t admit that Al makes the call on Campbell is so that if Campbell fails, he can conveniently blame Cable.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
SnB
We have an accord my man. I’m so sick of reading this crap it makes me sick. EVeryone should be dancing in the streets instead we’re spitting on each other.
I can’t tell ya’ how much it bothers me…..they always want to start a fight with ya’
November 11th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Hwnrdr,
If the Miami game is blacked out…then the people of Oakland have a big problem
November 11th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
It’s too easy. The Raiders can just keep the chain of command close to the vest. That way they can always blame the HC. As soon as anyone can confirm that Al calls the shots, Al is accountable.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
eff me…I thought I’d take a break with this blog but having withdrawal…..
SnB and everyone else….
My problem is JaPuke is a FRAUD. He has proven me right on multiple occasions this season. I told you after the SD game. I told you before Sunday’s game that he can’t carry us. If you dont watch out, AD is about to throw a long term contract to him and we wait for him to develop for the next 2 years (that would make it 9 years of combined waiting)…. per the wisdom of the Great Mistic.
If he is so effin great, How come nobody has taken me up on my offer that JaPuke will get yanked again before the season is over. And I’m talking a “healthy” yank. I’ll give you 3-1 odds. A friendly $25.
Put up or shut up biatches!!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
1.) It’s fun reading commenters who use reasoning and explain their thoughts. You don’t have to agree with them, but it’s good for your brain to read logical arguments.
2.) It’s not fun when someone just copies and pastes someone’s post, then writes “silly” or “stupid” and moves on, as if this person is SOOOOOOOO intelligent that anything they whisk away with their one word should be ignored.
3.) Both topics being discussed in here, the JC vs Bruce and Davis/Cable/QB topics are interesting and worthy. We can’t sit around and talk about our (gasp) winning record for two weeks straight.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Priesttj,
I am dancing in the streets, singing Autumn Wind at work…and just ordered my tix for the Pittsburgh game next weekend.
There is nothing wrong with this team right now. They just gotta keep playing and fighting.
If Gradkowski was the QB during the last 5 games, I would still be going to the game and be in a great SnB mood!
The HATE these guys have for a QB who is just doing his job….and the adolation and irritating nicknames like SuperBruce…for a guy who is as unproven as the starter.
Just Win Baby…Just Win!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Aig,
The Raiders winning games makes football fun again!
From your last post….doesn’t sound like you are enjoying football anymore.
That post you just put up was one of the most angriest posts I’ve seen in here.
Relax bro and enjoy this!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Nobody asked but..
Here’s my take on the QB situation. There is an old axiom in football..that if you have two quarterbacks, then you really don’t have any. Obviously, there is truth in that. Cable has a different take. He sees no controversy or problem. He says “we have a good thing going on here”. I agree with the big fella. Here’s why.
I think both Cable and OC Hue Jackson would like to see Grads back in there. Quicker reads,quicker tempo..offense just seems to run a little smoother. More hit or miss with JC.
However, how in the hell could they pull Campbell right now? Whether they are winning because of him or inspite of him, they are winning. NFL is bottom line business. Just win,Baby. 3 in a row. 4 of 5 and 3-0 in division. Cable had to back peddle slightly. Or completely contradict himself..however you wanna look at it. He has to ride the hot hand right now. No way he could pull the plug on JC.
Meanwhile, Grads is getting healthy and chompin at the bit. Ready to get back in the ring. all the while pushing JC to get better and better. Nipping at his heels.
If JC struggles with Steeler pressure, or is slow with his reads and release, well then..here come the hometown kid, the Polish pop gun to save the day.
Raiders just need QB to be competent. Good D and running game will travel. Like Cable said. They got a good thing going on here.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
I agree with you SnB, about the people having a problem if the next home game is blacked out because of a loss…
I think the fans should be excited these days because even in our losses (except week one) the team was still in the game! 4-1 at home and that ever so elusive win streak has got me dancing every where!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
No SnB,
I’ve had it with you guys twisting other me and other people’s words on here. No one has gone on record to say Grad is great. WE KNOW GRAD IS THE BEST QB ON THE RAIDER ROSTER RIGHT NOW.
You guys tried to turn this schytt around as “we hate the Raiders”. I’m not taking that schytt. You want to know someone who hates winning. I will dig up a post for you.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Who is this clown writing up a dissertation on Priest? Come on! This is the guy who said Vick is a better QB than John Elway.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
And no it was not fun to watch JC struggle and almost gave the game away to KC. It may be fun to you but the bar I was at was cheering when Bruce and Boller were warming up after JC’s injury. 99% of them were Black folks btw.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
AIG, good bet. I think even JC’s biggest fans would have to admit that he is inconsistent and absolutely average. He’s not bad, but he’s nowhere near great. He’s average, and unfortunately not even consistently average (which I think Bruce is).
JC is average in a scary way where he can torpedo an entire game all by himself (St. Louis, Tennessee, SF, and 1st half of KC). No other good QB does that over the course of half a season.
If the KC 2nd half is the best half of football that JC has played all year, (and we saw Ford bail out some bad bad throws) it’s not something I want to have as our “standard” by granting him any long-term guaranteed playing time.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Great post (159) Buckeye!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Aig, you just said yesterday you can’t wait to see the Raiders get killed by the Steelers. Quit having a losers mentality, and just cut it loose.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
You want to know a guy that hates winning….I present exhibit A. Look at Hill’s comments below. Under Ganno we had the best run since the early 80’s and he couldnt wait to get rid of Gannon. Why? because of the love for a cannon arm.
J Hill Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
the West Coast offense under Gannon was a thing of beauty!
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Didn’t like it.
Couldn’t wait to get that stiff Gannon outta there and get a QB with a real arm.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
AIG you just don’t get it do ya’ WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK, if JC gets yanked and deserves it. So be it, if it’s for the best of the TEAM. He’s no different than anyone else. But while we’re winning dude lighten up relax, do what you do.
Stop harrassing us about this stupid issue, it’ll take care of itself…………….period
November 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
But also, under Gannon/Gruden…we were way too conservative too many times! But who cares anymore…Gannon/Calahan was fun to watch…until the SB, and Calahan called the Raiders the dumbest team in America…dude he faced his old HC and never changed any of the plays…who was dumber?
November 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Aig,
Feel free to go find my posts. You will find that I was very much in the anti-Jason Campbell camp and screaming for Gradkowski.
But here’s what you won’t find. You won’t find me saying stuff like:
“If he is so effin great, How come nobody has taken me up on my offer that JaPuke will get yanked again before the season is over. And I’m talking a “healthy” yank. I’ll give you 3-1 odds. A friendly $25.”
Come on man
November 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
That was the opinion of a lot of Raider fans that I talked to. Nthey just didn’t like Gannon one guy said after the SB when he threw 5 int’s that he finally showed his true colors. But he was pissed because WE LOST not because he thought he was RIGHT. He wanted Gannon to win he just didn’t think he could. But he hasn’t bought season tickets in recent seasons since Gannon got hurt. Be careful what you wish for.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Effu AB,
This is the twisting of words that I effin despise about you JC lovers.
I said I can’t wait to see JC get exposed AGAIN vs Pitt. Because I know he is going to get exposed like he was against KC, Tenn, STL, and SF. It’s only a matter of time before he gets exposed again. I have 6.5 yrs of JC’s track record to depend on. What do you have?
November 11th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Effu AB,
This is the twisting of words that I effin despise about you JC lovers.
I said I can’t wait to see JC get exposed AGAIN vs Pitt. Because I know he is going to get exposed like he was against KC, Tenn, STL, and SF. It’s only a matter of time before he gets exposed again. I have 6.5 yrs of JC’s track record to depend on. What do you have?
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Translation (from Aig jibberish into common sense): I can’t wait to see the Raiders lose.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Priest…I wasn’t mad at Gannon, nor did I hate him! I think Calahan was a bit of a tard to not change it up a bit knowing that Gruden still knew all the plays!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Effu again AB,
My love for the Raiders have nothing to do with JC. Because I love my Raiders so much I’d prefer we be done with this JC the fraud experiment the sooner the better.
We have a championship caliber D and ground game. What is holding us back? JaPuke. I’ve seen enough to know he aint got it. The KC game should have never been close. WE got lucky and even the coach admitted that “KC kept us in the game”.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Another thing that everyone needs to realize.
The reason why so many were pulling for JaDavis to do well is because of the STONE COLD reality that the best chance to get a franchise type QB is to draft one. The Raiders needed JaDavis to come through so they could have a chance at an ELITE QB for 10 to 15 yrs.
Didn’t work out in spectacular fashion.
So the Raiders had to go the proverbial scrap heap for a QB. Keep in mind that teams RARELY get rid of top flight talent.
Soooooo, we have a 1st round bust from Washington trying to reclaim his career and a scrappy undersized free agent trying to stick in the league.
That’s what we have. NONE, I read, NONE of the QBs on this roster are deserving of SLAM DUNK premier QB status…they aren’t even on the top tier list….like Flacco and Ryan.
Sooooooo, you play the hot hand or whoever the coaches want.
The certainty that Gradkowski or Campbell are somehow sure fire talents that can “read defenses” “strong arm” fire and all that stuff is still inferior to the Mannings, Schaubs, Rivers, Rogers of the league….in fact guys like Freeman, Stafford and Bradford are about on par with the Raider guys.
So given all that…..one shouldn’t get overly excited or terribly upset at who is the QB…..just ride the wave and enjoy the winning and competitive football
November 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
A B Paine ??? have you ever seen Elway play the way Vick is playing now? son if you had a brain. Well sometimes a closed mouth wont allow folks to know just how stupid you are. Vick is playing some of the best QB play in the league right now. He just outplayed Manning bad timing son……..hush your gears are grinding and smokes coming out of your ears.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Who is this clown writing up a dissertation on Priest? Come on! This is the guy who said Vick is a better QB than John Elway.
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Yet another moron who refuses to read and comprehend. The whole post was about how he has been a horrible judge of talent. Try “Hooked On Phonics” you idiot.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
SnB,
You spent the entire offseason blasting Grad and bloating JC and McNabb. I told you both of them were frauds. I have proven to be right so far.
Now you can’t wait to get back on JC’s bandwagon. I’m having none of that. I stand by my prediction. JC is a fraud and he will get exposed again before the season is over. It will come as early as next Sunday.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Being at that game, I agree! KC did give us the chance of letting us hang around! It should have been a run-away in the first half…but our D showed up in a big way! You all remember when “Lance” said that he didn’t believe in hyping up a division game because he felt they should all be the same…well, Cable gets that a division game is always a big game!
So, with that…KC kept us in the game in the 1st half, while our D a Ford gave us the win which is all that matters!!!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
A B Paine ??? have you ever seen Elway play the way Vick is playing now? son if you had a brain. Well sometimes a closed mouth wont allow folks to know just how stupid you are. Vick is playing some of the best QB play in the league right now. He just outplayed Manning bad timing son……..hush your gears are grinding and smokes coming out of your ears.
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Priest, you are a f*cking f*ck-tard, you f*cking loser. Just because Vick played a few great games does not make him better than Elway. Give me a break. By your logic, Jacoby Ford’s game against the Chiefs makes him better than Jerry Rice. Get a clue dip sh*t.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
NoPassingZone Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Who is this clown writing up a dissertation on Priest? Come on! This is the guy who said Vick is a better QB than John Elway.
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Yet another moron who refuses to read and comprehend. The whole post was about how he has been a horrible judge of talent. Try “Hooked On Phonics” you idiot.
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You wasted time and effort writing a novel about Priest. Who is the moron? I say you are douche bag.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Hey Nopassingzone.
Glad you saw my breakdown of JC’s games this year. BTW, that was a pretty accurate write down on Priest. He can’t stand it when people call him on it. Rather than manning up and admitting once he was wrong. He’ll talk down to you.
He spent the entire offseason saying “Grad can’t carry Jawalrus jock” and now he says he’s happy to have Grad around. Pure BS.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Aig, Priest, and NoPassingZone = The Three Stooges. Seriously, who let you guys out of the mental home tonight?
November 11th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
The Raiders have a chance against any team in this league right now.
Best football I’ve seen from them in 7 years.
I have no complaints.
(unless you count still being pissed about the Cards & Niners game. lol)
November 11th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Alex7,
thanks bro. I got so sick of all the excuses and phantom JC achievements that I thought I’d throw down the guantlet and none of them will dare take me up on it.
You guys have a good nite and I will try to stay away from this blog. See you on game day.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Aig,
In the abscence of evidence you go with opinion. The evidence of Gradkowski’s record is flimsy. Look at his performance, record, statistics and everything else. Now I don’t evalutate players tape or re-watch games so maybe you all are seeing something I don’t.
But I do know that in a league where guys former 3rd string Qbs like Matt Hasselback and Brett Favre are plucked from rosters for draft picks and Gradkowski was just sitting there doesn’t give me a lot of evidence.
As for Jason Campbell and Donovan McNabb. You are damn right I was pleading for the Raiders to get them. Two QBs that were regular starters for several years on the same team that was available. McNabb had led his team to a Super Bowl and 5 NFC Championship games……given where the Raiders were….YOU WOULD INSANE TO PASS ON THAT OPPORTUNITY.
As far as Campbell..he was the best available.
Gradkowski is not Sam Bradford or Josh Freeman. He is just another guy that has TO PROVE he’s the man.
Tell me what game Gradkowski has played where he played like an elite QB.
Whether you like it or not….Gradkowski is unproven and Campbell has a LOT TO PROVE.
Regardless, I just care about winning and PRODUCTION!
November 11th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Aig, goodnight loser.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
I think Mike Vick has had a great career so far if you like go ahead and compare career up to this ageminus the years Vick was in prison to play at this level after nt playing at all for 2+ years is remarkable by any standards ecept yours of course. Analyst and prognosticators are blown away by his exploits this season. If he were on a better team thye would be favored to play in the big game son. Like I said bad timing if I were you that’s the last issue I would have broached.
But you couldn’t help yourself footinmouth desease is your strong suit.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Damn fellas. Just relax and enjoy the ride. This second half oughtta be fun. This is a good young team.
They have had the talent. Now they are gaining the most important ingrediant..confidence. They are loose and having fun with each other, yet focused. Guided by Seymours leadership. Just like the losing atmoshphere was contagious the last seven years, now these guys are getting a taste of winning. And they want more.
This bye is coming at the perfect moment. They should get healthy for the stretch run. Zach, Hopefully Nnamdi, Big john Henderson in the D-line rotation. Murphy and yes even Chaz Schillens.
While the Raiders are rested, yet focused.. Pittsburgh should be coming off a draining primetime game vs. New England. Pitt’s line is mediocre when healthy. They are hurting. And in for a hurtin.
Raider D dominates. Offense wears em down and blows open a close game in second half. Raiders win big and really start to open some eyes around the league. IMO.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Great post SnB#187 he’s kneeling at the alter for Gradkowski as he types with tears streaming. He just can’t let it go. He wants us to join him in his worship. It’s not good enough to say we like him we have to LOVE him.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Priest, until this year, Vick has never completed 60% of his passes or thrown for 3,000 yards. Yes, he has played great this season. But, you want to compare his five starts to Elway’s hall of fame career. Vick hasn’t done anything, boy.
November 11th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Goodnight fellas.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
In the KC game, the second half we out scored them 20-10. If Cable did not waste his two challenges, then that fumble by Nick Miller would have been overturned, hence probably KC not getting that TD late and have us in catch up mode…and not get into OT! Ford was the spark in the second half/OT. Who knows what would have happened if he did not open the half on a 94 yard ko return!
November 11th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Congratulations to the Chicago Bulls for destroying the Warriors tonight.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Go ahead and compare career at this point son. Vick could very well be a HOF’r get a clue. Elways career completion % is 57% for his CAREER modest IMO. He played when they were throwing short passes and played in the WCO same as Vick go ahead and compare to this point. Vick has been to 3 probowls and is assured of another this year if he keeps it up. He’s taking a average team and beating top teir teams. And doing it with accuracy that Elway has never ever known short and deep. Like I said at this point in their career I’d take Vick hands down………….period
November 11th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Dam, the Bulls really killed the Warriors…by 30? Wow!
November 11th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
W’s were due for smackin’ on the road back to back is tough. Your legs go. That makes them 6-3 not half bad.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Al needs to let players earn the right to be on the field. DH, Trevor Scott, and, to a certain degree, Mitchell, are given too many snaps. Mario Williams was a similar case until Veldeer took over. Scott would definitely not start anywhere else in the NFl. DHB is a project that is not starting material. Mitchell is a marginal NFl player. For us to truly take the next step, Al needs to quit imposing his will and making his projects take snaps from legitimate NFL caliber players.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
The Ravens secondary stinks and I mean stinks. Those guy’s can’t cover to save their lives.
890 that’s an opinion but it aint a good one. Just because the players YOU think should play aren’t playing you make an assertion that you cannot prove. Just enjoy the games man the rest is a strain on your brain.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Ravens got jobbed on the Falcons TD. Should have been Offensive Interference.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
oh well, hope all the top teams in AFC lose this week.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Have you ever seen a offensive player get called for that unless he’s a Raider? I haven’t. yes he did push off and the ref saw it but this league has clearly sold it soul for offensive football. Defense is red haired step children. Ugly ducklings fines penalties and suspensions all on the defense. That’s why it’s wise to have an explosive offense they can get away with murder.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
LMFAO!
RMR, Cable says he decides who plays, anything else has been reported by undisclosed sources. How f#cking difficult is it for you to just shut the f#ck up and enjoy the season thus far.
I better never see the MR jersey walking around the coliseum the rest of Al Davis’s days on this green earth. I may just run up and cheap shot you behind the ear.
November 11th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Alright guys…time to sign off! Check back in the AM…
November 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Raiders look so much better, as far as qbs; if compared to surgeons: you can find good fast surgeons and bad fast surgeons, but you wont find a good slow surgeon.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Man saw that Marcus Dupree 30 for 30.
Sad story, always knew the name but nothing about him.
At least he had a knee injury and tons of bad advice and over-hype as his main drag down.
Not fur coats, diamond necklaces of himself and cough syrup.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
111.priesttj Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Sometimes I wonder if they’re family members of GradsI mean I’m glad we have him because I’m not absolutely sure about Campbell but my god these idiots act like they have an alter biult or shrine dedicated to him. It’s crazy.
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This, coming from the biggest Worshiper in here?
You can’t make this stuff up!
November 11th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
This is the clueless media desperate to generate a story about the suddenly relevant Raiders.
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True words. They don’t know anything about the Raiders so they resort to the old standby Al Davis. He IS an interesting dude, whether you love him or hate him.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
194. I’m not sure Cable wasted those challenges. That catch by KC he challenged wasn’t a TD.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Marcus Dupree was a beast he was Bo before Bo Jackson and Herchell before Herschell Walker. Just an awesome talent. Ran a sub 4.4 at 230-5 but had a penchant for getting to heavy 250-60 had he been patient and went to the NFL and worked hard he would’ve dominated the league. He was as good as Eric Dickerson just more physical. A cross betwen Eric Dickerson and Earl Campbell.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Actually that TD by Roddy White was legit. That defender looked like he got caught pulling a basketball move flailing to exaggerate the contact. That is the down side of over-acting.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
You like Berman? He is as big a Raider hater as they come, check yourself fool.
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Berman? A Raider hater? Sure doesn’t sound like one when he does the highlights. He sounds like he’s being paid by Al himself. He was merciless to Jackson showing the Denver game highlights.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I don’t worship anyone just because I don’t hate them and tell lies on them doesn’t mean I worship them you’re the one who’d crap his pants if he asked you to come and sit and talk to him.
I’ve met himtalked to him in person and on the phone and never never had a reaction to him. But you idealise his persona. Make him bigger than life itself. That to me is worship. I see him as a great man in sports………..period
November 11th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
damn u would think being 5-4 would make people happy here but obviously not. i always said people would find stuff to complain about even if we won. this qb shcit need to stop. both dudes are average and we can end this by getting vick next year. i predict al will see his true plunkett next year and get him if philly is stupid enuff to let him walk. anybody who thinks grads or campbell is better is just stupid. al please get vick so we can end this qb stuff for good.
November 11th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Amen….
November 11th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
I think the only ones with a QB controversy are the fans on this post. The Raiders are gonna do what the Raiders are gonna do and so far they’re doing a great job this year making changes. It reminds me of the A’s. Cmon a worthless multibillion dollar company that cares nothing for their team. I don’t think that is the case here. Nonetheless, that is what you sound like. So pipe down and let Tom do his job and enjoy. Feel free to complain when we lose.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
First off I would like to say that I am fairly happy with what has transpired. At the beginning of the season I said I would be content with 8-8 and call it a vast improvement. The current state of the Nation has never been better and has exceed my expectations for the 2010 Raiders. I am a born and bred silver and black bleeder and love Sundays again. Whatever they have going on, just keep it up. It’s working.
To the point… The arguments, the name calling, the rants, the insanity of this board is something to celebrate. I know it sounds insane, but it is the purest form of being a fan. The people that come here and post are not the normal “fan”. They live for it, they have the passion. Who else studies players/teams, stats, their highlight reels, their college reels, what they ate for dinner last Thursday night etc. We are not the norm. There is another level. The level that breathes and lives football. It’s refreshing to see so many different people here and so many different view points. Yeah, sometimes it gets out of hand. But I chalk that off to passion and each individuals vision for improvement, Which is cool, we are all after the same means to an end right? We just want to win. It would be boring if we agreed all the time, that’s how life is. You need the positive to the negative. The black to the white. It pushes people to think.
Enough of my banter. I hate to say this… Go Donkies.
The inmates run the asylum.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Campbell this year –
170 throws, 56% completion, 7 TDs, 5 INT, 19 sacks (yikes), 7 fumbles.
Bruce last year -
150 throws, 54% completion, 6 TD, 4 INT, 11 sacks, 5 fumbles.
Honestly, they’re both average. Jason just sometimes lacks people’s confidence (including Cable and Jackson) because of how atrocious he can play (Titans, Rams, 49ers, Chiefs 1st half). Bruce in Oakland has never been THAT horrible.
But again, both guys are average.
November 11th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/11/11/dont-panic-five-reasons-for-chiefs-fans-to-remain-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-51542
Got some love for predicting a Raiders win! I told them a few days before the game that they would get burned by Jacoby! I’m glad Jacoby had my back!!!
November 12th, 2010 at 12:24 am
The bye week gives us a moment to catch our breath, and step back enough to notice what’s really happening.There is leadership ,finally. Richard Seymour is a warrior and a teacher that stands tall in my eyes.Our young warriors are stepping up, by example.I don’t know what coach said at half-time at the KC game, but we came out as champions.The young rookie stepped up.Special teams TD, and he TOOK that pass from the DB.I am so proud.And Coach Cable, It starts with you.They believe in you and trust you.We are getting healthier and are on the rise.RAIDERS!
November 12th, 2010 at 1:36 am
# Drexl Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
LMFAO!
RMR, Cable says he decides who plays, anything else has been reported by undisclosed sources. How f#cking difficult is it for you to just shut the f#ck up and enjoy the season thus far.
I better never see the MR jersey walking around the coliseum the rest of Al Davis’s days on this green earth. I may just run up and cheap shot you behind the ear.
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Cheap shotting me is probably a smart move. If you’re anything like I picture you, getting a cheap shot in would be your only chance.
Anyhow, onto another topic you’re obviously in over your head on: Cable. If Cable’s the one who calls the shots, Gradkowski’s starting. He already said Gradkowski is his guy. You want people to believe that Cable’s calling the shots if Campbell’s starting with a healthy Gradkowski on the sideline? LOL. Good luck.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:44 am
e Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
So, Mistic, you don’t know either! Most pro sports teams disclose who makes the decisions as to their starting lineups, Mistic. The media has every right to try to figure out who’s making such decisions in Oakland. Cable says he’s the decider. Yet he’s also said once that Gradkowski’s his guy. All the while, Campbell seems to be the long term starter. If the media didn’t delve into this, Mistic, they simply wouldn’t be doing their jobs. The media’s job is not to just show Raider highlights and pretend their front office doesn’t exist.
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people have the right to change their mind, be that al davis or coach cable… who made you God
November 12th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
This is a reminder of who we are. the raiders are the most hated organization in all of sports.
We have a good thing going, and I respect cable, all he wants to do is coach. unlike some of these ego maniacs we have had in the past.
He is very shrewd in the way he works with davis, this doent make him a puppet, it makes him a valued employee.
They hate our gm, they hate our coach and qb. This is just more propaganda and conspiracy garbage that stand s in the stead of real information.
Cable said it best ” the owner runs the organization, I coach the team”
Some times simple is the best option.
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OK…sooo……who decides who starts at QB, then? Seems to me ESPN is asking a fair question.
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its been stated that Espn has been anti raider…. and you seem to be swingin off espn’s nuts… no surprise
November 12th, 2010 at 1:53 am
# Drixxel Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/From-the-Podium-Todd-Haley/34842a0b-47ae-4f53-aa94-c8de7ef57f71
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coach haley looks like a drunk hung over bum after a loss….
Cable looks more like a winner than this guy and you guys call cable a monkey… at least Cable holds good posture even in defeat
November 12th, 2010 at 1:56 am
GalacticGus Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 1:50 am
its been stated that Espn has been anti raider….
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LOL. It’s been stated and proven that you, Drexl, and Mistic are anti common sense.
November 12th, 2010 at 2:07 am
MR, you are lucky i have too many things to think about then shredding apart your logic. go join a debate club because it seems like you really like to play devil’s advocate… or, you pretend to like the raiders because getting under people’s skin makes you feel alive.
i am just messin with you… i am sure you can be a very bright fellow.
lets agree on something…. Go RAiders!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:08 am
and who gives a Crapola about who decides the QB… all that matters is wins baby…wins baby… don’t fight the feeling… just win biaaaatch!!!!!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:12 am
lol. That’s a lot of psycho babble to just make the point that you don’t want people talking about Al’s obvious meddling.
November 12th, 2010 at 2:14 am
Raiders… they keep their press conferences short and sweet… i was watching the Chiefs… 17 minutes long of exposing their wounds… to the benefit of the nemesis. Guerilla warfare baby. deception mofos!
nevertheless, people out there like to put salt on wounds… and never look to the future and the healing process.. reminds me of the haters
November 12th, 2010 at 2:17 am
GalacticGus Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 2:14 am
Guerilla warfare baby.
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No, actually, Jacoby Ford, baby. That’s really it. Without Ford, we lose this game, guerrilla warfare tactics noted.
November 12th, 2010 at 2:20 am
i aint trying to stick up for Al. let the geezer meddle, its his team and its his system thats got you all consumed on his blog that he probably reads…
the raiders did not suck the last seven years just because of Al… he was building a team in his philosophy all this time. When the patriots went through the 80s and early 90s at mediocrity, nobody said anything. They don’t even have a ‘football guy’ as the owner. dynasties, and one year wonders… it comes in cycles.. everything that goes up, must fall… and only the glorious, the committed, the knowledgeable, all of those human aspects,… will continue to rise…
feel important out MR, your voice is being heard!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:23 am
That’s a lot of psycho babble to just admit that Al meddles. Give your dozen brain cells a rest.
November 12th, 2010 at 2:27 am
any attempt to discredit cable and Al Davis.. right?
thats your MO… we could have had that game won by the third quarter had the zebras not continually give the game to the chefs… chris johnsons’s phantom PI?
and on the Arenas return, flag came out at the beginning of play.
I WAS AT THE GAME….on mount DAvis.. where were you? using Davis as an excuse for your brokeness?
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what, do you think Jacoby ford was drafted out of thin air? … pretty soon, you are gonna be shadow boxing the thin air! no excuses or arguments… find a new hobby join the debate club!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:28 am
That’s a lot of psycho babble to just admit that Al meddles. Give your dozen brain cells a rest. says maddened raider…
thats a cop out when you aint got nothing to say!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:34 am
and what about that nick miller non fumble… our team coming away with it on the scrum… and the refs.. because they said so,, gave it to the chiefs.. knowing the raiders did not have anymore challenges… and i agree.. and cable agrees.. hopefully he learns from it… he made some dumb challenges that could have cost us the game because we did not have em when we needed em!!!!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:36 am
correction… haleys presser was over 30 minutes long…
November 12th, 2010 at 2:45 am
LOL. You’ve said about a million words tonight with nothing to say. That’s obvious.
November 12th, 2010 at 2:46 am
Everything noted, Gus. We dont’ win without Ford. Period.
November 12th, 2010 at 3:01 am
so what is the point about Raiders not winning without Ford? Ford is part of the RAider organization. you say many words without making a real point.. and if there is a point.. nobody really cares. Raiders don’t win without Seymour, without Veldheer, without JLH making some important catches… without Kelly alongside Seymour..
so, your Raiders don’t win without out Ford is a desperate claw for substance…. we need an audience and then you will be put to shame
November 12th, 2010 at 3:06 am
they don’t win without DMac.. last week, without DHB… your point is without substance… nobody cares MR… unless they want to join a debate club.
like in baseball or any other sport…. someone steps up or a few people step up… this week it was Ford. god bless him.
November 12th, 2010 at 3:11 am
WHO DO YOU CREDIT FOR DRAFTING THE SPEEDSTER TRACK STAR JACOBY FORD? JOHN MADDEN THE SECRET CONSULTANT BEHIND THE SCENES.. COULDN’T HAVE BEEN THE MEDDLING AL DAVIS OR THAT MONKEY COACH CABLE… NOOOOOO FORD, JUST FELL ON THE RAIDERS LAP AND THEY GOT LUCKY…
THAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT rEAL MENTALLY RAIDER?
LOLL… GO TO BED, TIL THE NEXT DEBATE!
November 12th, 2010 at 5:45 am
238.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 2:45 am
LOL. You’ve said about a million words tonight with nothing to say. That’s obvious.
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lol You just described yourself and your bantering every day on this blog.
G Gus smoked you at your own game
Nice job Gus
November 12th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
This JC/Grads debate still going on?
November 12th, 2010 at 5:50 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr
November 12th, 2010 at 5:56 am
If they beat the Steelers on the road, they are a bona-fide SB contender this year. No BS!!!
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JFB,
we will make it happen!
November 12th, 2010 at 5:57 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.WHAT IS WITH THE WHOLE JACOBY CHEVY THING ANY WAY ?GUY HAD A CAREER DAY,WON THE GAME4 THE RAIDERS,WHAT’S THE QUESTION ?
November 12th, 2010 at 5:57 am
a few short months ago, Darren McFadden was a potential draft bust
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Dakota,
please add Jerry Mac to your “RUE THE DAY” DMAC list!
November 12th, 2010 at 5:58 am
I love the blame Al for everything then fine but you have to give him credit when it’s going good. Ford has World Class speed guy is going to be a major weapon for us , watching back that KO TD WHOOOO he is flying . Dmac makes us a different team he is looking exactly like he did at Ark just so versatile and man is he through the hole quick.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
November 12th, 2010 at 6:00 am
All the talk about McFadden’s skinny legs and inability to break tackles seems ridiculous every time he lowers his shoulder and drives into a defender to pick up an extra yard or three and finish off a run.
-Jerry Mac
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where is Bo Desperado?
November 12th, 2010 at 6:01 am
NMF,
Jacoby > Kobe
Print That!
November 12th, 2010 at 6:17 am
HEY HWNRDR,U STARTING 2 GET THOSE “HEY,HOW ABOUT THEM RAIDER’S,GOT ANY EXTRA TICKETS”PHONE CALL’S.FINALY HAD 2 TURN MY CELL-PHONE OFF WHILE AT WORK..
November 12th, 2010 at 6:22 am
I am more excited about what Ford gives us in special teams going forward. I think teams will have to consider if they want to kick to him.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:27 am
I hear ya! Everyone wants a pice of the pie now! I just bought 7 tickets for the Miami game…of course i was paid back but, WOW!
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:17 am
HEY HWNRDR,U STARTING 2 GET THOSE “HEY,HOW ABOUT THEM RAIDER’S,GOT ANY EXTRA TICKETS”PHONE CALL’S.FINALY HAD 2 TURN MY CELL-PHONE OFF WHILE AT WORK..
November 12th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Ok, apples to oranges here…
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:01 am
NMF,
Jacoby > Kobe
Print That!
November 12th, 2010 at 6:32 am
apples to oranges here…
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neither are a part of the breakfast buffet.
Gabby, get these boys some coffee!
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, Jimbo, NMF, Plunk
November 12th, 2010 at 6:36 am
Good Morning Rock, AM Crew…
Feels strange to have this lull now after the past 3 frenzied weeks. This season has been so dramatic. It’s hard to put the brakes on.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:36 am
GOOD DAY ROCKSTAR.U GET OVER THE HONG-KONG FLU OR WHAT EVER IT WAS U HAD?
November 12th, 2010 at 6:36 am
With a week off…its going to be a boring Sunday!…
Thanks for coffee…
November 12th, 2010 at 6:40 am
It’s hard to put the brakes on.
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why do you have to?
root for Dungver to beat Kansas Pity and the dudes on your FF team(s) !!!
speaking of brakes, I need to change’em out on the Silverado. sounds ugly. might be scraping metal on metal. last I checked rotors aren’t free
November 12th, 2010 at 6:40 am
GUESS I’LL WATCH THAT DENVER-K.C MATCH UP JUST 2 C WHAT HAPPENS.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:40 am
My Mid Season Raider Awards:
Offensive MVP: DMC
Defensive MVP: Seympour
Offensive ROY: Ford
Defensive ROY: RoMac
Most Improved: Mitchell
ST MVP (tie): Cartwright, Lechler
November 12th, 2010 at 6:40 am
please add Jerry Mac to your “RUE THE DAY” DMAC list!
hahahahaha The truth makes funny things even funnier
November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 am
I may because if KC loses, I’m toasting a beer with the neighborhood! That would mean 1st place!
November 12th, 2010 at 6:41 am
U GET OVER THE HONG-KONG FLU OR WHAT EVER IT WAS U HAD?
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I had acute bronchitis.
all better now. glad to have kicked that thing
cant be coughing & hacking in the woods and expect a deer to come within firing distance of ya
November 12th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Jimbo,
Brett Favre had like 34 fantasy points last week, but this week they are only projecting him to get 9 points. He even had a full practice yesterday
is the Bears defense that good?
was last week a fluke?
November 12th, 2010 at 6:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Jimbo,
Brett Favre had like 34 fantasy points last week, but this week they are only projecting him to get 9 points. He even had a full practice yesterday
is the Bears defense that good?
was last week a fluke?
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Rockstar:
I know what you mean. They got Favre as rated the #24th best QB this week. I just picked him off of waivers. But I am starting Eli Manning cause they are going to kill Dallas. Still Favre I think is going to lay it all out this year since it is finally his last.
His 448 yards last week was a career high. I think when Rice comes back, it will be a good option to start him later though.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:49 am
ACUTE BRONCHITIS AS OPPOSED TO,AN UGLY BRONHHITIS……
November 12th, 2010 at 6:49 am
Bears D has Julius Peppers, and all it takes is one good hit and Favre could be down. That’s what scare me.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:50 am
the coffee tree, man’s best friend
Bore da!Rockstar and all of the AM Crew.
it was not that long ago that the Raiders had the likes of Schweigert, Warren, Mop Handle, Fargas, Lawton, and Purple Drank as starters.
Wow. what a turnover in personnel. Seymour, Wimbley, Groves brought in. Tyvon, Missile Mike, Shaughnessy, Scott, Houston, McClain drafted by the Old Man. (no I haven’t forgotten Ware and Brown and Walter McF). amazing turnaround on D. (Al Davis for exec of the year!)
Reece, scrapheap QBs, a revived Langston, Satele looks like a steal compared to JGrove. And a whole stable of young draftees at WR. Mc Bush in the backfield. Veldheer, ‘nough said.
a great day to be a Raider fan, yes.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:50 am
ACUTE BRONCHITIS AS OPPOSED TO,AN UGLY BRONHHITIS……
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my wife thinks so
November 12th, 2010 at 6:51 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:49 am
ACUTE BRONCHITIS AS OPPOSED TO,AN UGLY BRONHHITIS……
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LOL,
I tried that hospital humor on the nurse the last time I was in for surgery. She gave me a phony smile like she hadn’t heard that joke a thousand times.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:52 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:50 am
the coffee tree, man’s best friend
Bore da!Rockstar and all of the AM Crew.
it was not that long ago that the Raiders had the likes of Schweigert, Warren, Mop Handle, Fargas, Lawton, and Purple Drank as starters.
Wow. what a turnover in personnel. Seymour, Wimbley, Groves brought in. Tyvon, Missile Mike, Shaughnessy, Scott, Houston, McClain drafted by the Old Man. (no I haven’t forgotten Ware and Brown and Walter McF). amazing turnaround on D. (Al Davis for exec of the year!)
Reece, scrapheap QBs, a revived Langston, Satele looks like a steal compared to JGrove. And a whole stable of young draftees at WR. Mc Bush in the backfield. Veldheer, ‘nough said.
a great day to be a Raider fan, yes.
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thanks for the splash! Well said!
November 12th, 2010 at 6:53 am
I tried that hospital humor on the nurse the last time I was in for surgery. She gave me a phony smile like she hadn’t heard that joke a thousand times.
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Jimbo said “I’ll give ya a tongue depresser!”
November 12th, 2010 at 6:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Jimbo,
Brett Favre had like 34 fantasy points last week, but this week they are only projecting him to get 9 points. He even had a full practice yesterday
is the Bears defense that good?
was last week a fluke?
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I think Bret should get bonus points for Jenn Sterger!
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DJenn%2BSterger&w=106&h=160&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DJenn%2BSterger%23focal%3D1d3c5e389e2e6d0623ebde60942e018a%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252flh5.ggpht.com%252f_NEFRZ9lXsCs%252fSgsOx186×3I%252fAAAAAAAADDs%252fOUkTu55SAos%252f86208779_JM_8495_0FF430C78D32E2FAAACCE7C20F759BD8.JPG&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DJenn%2BSterger%23focal%3D1d3c5e389e2e6d0623ebde60942e018a%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252flh5.ggpht.com%252f_NEFRZ9lXsCs%252fSgsOx186×3I%252fAAAAAAAADDs%252fOUkTu55SAos%252f86208779_JM_8495_0FF430C78D32E2FAAACCE7C20F759BD8.JPG&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DJenn%2BSterger%23focal%3D1d3c5e389e2e6d0623ebde60942e018a%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252flh5.ggpht.com%252f_NEFRZ9lXsCs%252fSgsOx186×3I%252fAAAAAAAADDs%252fOUkTu55SAos%252f86208779_JM_8495_0FF430C78D32E2FAAACCE7C20F759BD8.JPG&p=Jenn+Sterger&type=&no=3&tt=108&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D311185244748%26id%3D1c10466bffba0b056c2f5dd20e4320e1&tit=28%3A+Model+Jenn+Sterger+…&sigr=1784eeq9v&sigi=171ko1k5u&sigb=11m591b2i&fr=yfp-t-701
November 12th, 2010 at 6:57 am
I’ll give ya a tongue depresser!”
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November 12th, 2010 at 6:57 am
my boss just came in to my office with a box of doughnuts and told me to take one …
I took the apple fritter. good call?
Now I feel like JaWalrus, eating goodies and sitting on my duff when I should be working
November 12th, 2010 at 6:58 am
I win a prize for longest link! lol
November 12th, 2010 at 6:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:57 am
my boss just came in to my office with a box of doughnuts and told me to take one …
I took the apple fritter. good call?
Now I feel like JaWalrus, eating goodies and sitting on my duff when I should be working
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You are not alone.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Apple fritter would definately be invited to the Green Room in the donut draft.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:00 am
and for those of you that don’t know, “Bore da” is Welsh for “Aloha kakahiaka”.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:01 am
I think Bret should get bonus points for Jenn Sterger!
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Exla,
Brett’s wife is very good looking in her own right and he’s a grandpa now. I thought his legacy had been tarnished enough by going to the Jets & Vikings and the whole retirement mumbo jumbo every offseason where he shows his wang to the media and skips work for 7 months (Feb thru August)
Guess not …
November 12th, 2010 at 7:02 am
The week off is such a buzz-kill.
I have to drive to Las Cruces/El Paso on Sunday anyways, I might just leave right in the middle of the day.
Get to the Hamptonn Inn and relax with the Sunday Night game for once, instead of getting in at 9pm, unpack, and than wake up 6 hours later to pack up again.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:02 am
My boss doesn’t bring donuts to the office. Most people bring them to him. I basically hide from him, till I get my performance appraisal. I take a deep breath and brace for a ripping, but I have bullet statements 3 pages long of stuff I do. I always get an “excellent” rating. Sigh…this job is too easy.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Apple fritter would definately be invited to the Green Room in the donut draft.
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LOL!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Brett’s wife is very good looking! I wonder when she will call it quits???
November 12th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Bret’s wife was probably a groupie when she was younger to stand for all the drama that Bret puts her through. You didn’t see Tiger’s wife put up with that ish…
November 12th, 2010 at 7:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:01 am
I think Bret should get bonus points for Jenn Sterger!
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Exla,
Brett’s wife is very good looking in her own right and he’s a grandpa now. I thought his legacy had been tarnished enough by going to the Jets & Vikings and the whole retirement mumbo jumbo every offseason where he shows his wang to the media and skips work for 7 months (Feb thru August)
Guess not
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I was joking. She’s a slutty piece of trash. His wife is hot and didn’t deserve the Tiger treatment.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:05 am
My boss is about 550 miles away.
That defines awesomeness.
(Although no co-workers makes for some serious insanity questioning moments, when you don’t actually talk to anyone all day long, but you still find yourself talking out loud at times)
November 12th, 2010 at 7:05 am
the stealing of Seymour and the culture change he has affected on the D-line may be foremost, but who could have envisioned Shaughnessy and Scott and Bryant turning out so well? could’ve been more of Antajj, QMoses and Terdell for all we knew.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:05 am
My boss doesn’t bring donuts to the office. Most people bring them to him.
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Jimbo,
I hate butt kissers. half of the people I work with go into the bosses office and talk about thier personal lives, like he cares or wants to be their friend or something. I just punch in, do my job and punch out
multi task crunching numbers with some blogging or my head would be spinning.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Phone sex isn’t something I’d want to get busted for. I mean if I am going to be busted, I at least want the payoff for the crime.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Jimbo Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:04 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:05 am
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Thought just a minute off, lol
November 12th, 2010 at 7:09 am
could’ve been more of Antajj, QMoses and Terdell for all we knew.
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A Welsh greeting and an Antajj Hawthorne reference all before 7:15am PST ???
M is on fire !!!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Butt on the other hand:
http://cdn.mademan.com/chickipedia/images/7/7c/Sterger6_750.jpg
November 12th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Hwnrdr,
you do realize that the switch will go on for DHB, he will get IT, the moment you get your Humuhumu jersey. It is all up to you sir.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
I just punch in, do my job and punch out.
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Come on RRS, we all know you’re a donut puncher! lol
November 12th, 2010 at 7:10 am
I hate butt kissers. half of the people I work with go into the bosses office and talk about thier personal lives, like he cares or wants to be their friend or something. I just punch in, do my job and punch out
multi task crunching numbers with some blogging or my head would be spinning.
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It’s why I never want his position. Every time he talks retirement, people are always looking my way like I am next in line to run this place.
But I don’t want to be everyone’s wet nurse. He is in his office half the time talking people through thier personal emergencies and crisis. Chasing down timecards and hearing personal excuses on ish that he really doesn’t care about, but has to pretend to care about.
F that ish! I don’t want the extra $15K for that job. Works out to peanuts after taxes.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:11 am
I heard Elin Nordegren took all Tiger’s money and ran off with Richochet …
now he’s playing at Pebble every weekend on her dime
true or false?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:11 am
That is the truth, Jimbo! Funny because I have been accused of the crime before, and had to fight my way to prove my innocence! Phone sex….haha…I wish that was all i was accused of…
November 12th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Ask any manager, especially sales managers, and they will all say that 90% of their job is baby-sitting and ego stroking.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Trade Jon Condo for Bore Da?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Matt S may have been one of the best “value” draft picks in recent memory.
One of the best young players on the team, and all for a 3rd rounder.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:13 am
I know…I’ll probably order it this weekend! But he better GET IT! You can’t defy the power of the Humuhumu…LOL
November 12th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Matt S may have been one of the best “value” draft picks in recent memory.
One of the best young players on the team, and all for a 3rd rounder.
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ShoNasty has been a beast and really has proven he can play all 3 downs. Best DE we have, IMO.
I don’t know why he fell so far in the draft. He must have had some question marks. Maybe an injury history?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:16 am
RR
Those percentage points at yahoo are messed up. They are most likely projected before the season starts.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Matt S may have been one of the best “value” draft picks in recent memory.
One of the best young players on the team, and all for a 3rd rounder.
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I remember most Raider fans were begging for Michael Johnson (Georgia Tech)
blessing in disguise that Cincy swooped in and got him first?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Matt S broke his leg I belive in college, and like the beast he is, manned up and still played sooner than expected.
I do think the injury hampered his production, and hence the slide to the 3rd round.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Hwnrdr,
humuhumunukunukuapua’a is a tough and territorial critter. da kine receiver DHB needs to be.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:18 am
I remember LMN on draft day berating the Matt S pick.
Full disclosure, I was pretty stoked during the draft that we drafted a tough, white Irish guy from Wisconsin, lol.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:19 am
ShoHennessy is living up to his name, and ShoHouston is solid on the other side. ShoWhiteboy remains a tweener…
November 12th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Matt S broke his leg I belive in college, and like the beast he is, manned up and still played sooner than expected.
I do think the injury hampered his production, and hence the slide to the 3rd round.
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Thanks for the knowledge. I thought it was something to do with being damaged goods.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:20 am
It’s a GREAT day to be a Raiders Fan!
First post, long-time reader (have to keep it low-key here at the office). Really looking forward to contributing to the discussions (well, some of them anyway…).
Only thing I wanted to throw out there after reading Jerry’s piece and the Seymour article about the resurgence was that it made me think back to something Jerry mentioned in a post many months ago about Big Rich being the FIRST one off the bus with the rookies for camp – a TRUE leader who clearly WAS setting the tone for this team. I think we can ALL agree that, unlike some other high-priced players that Al’s brought in recently, Seymour truly is the real-deal.
With the way I see this season going (and what our young D is learning from Rich), it’s clear to me that the 1st rounder we gave up is a bargain. Glad to see Al stick the Pats…first Burgess now this. Must still be smarting over the Tuck game…
Cheers!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:20 am
I just punch in, do my job and punch out
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Oh, so we have the same job, RRS? LOL.
The goal is to be self employed this time next year.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Shaughnessy played in 50 games and started 46 games at Wisconsin, recording 174 tackles (109 solos) with 18.5 sacks, 41.5 stops for losses and 22 quarterback pressures. He also caused and recovered one fumble while also deflecting nine passes. As a senior in 2008 he was honorable mention All-Big Ten Conference after recorded 40 tackles (29 solo) with four sacks and eight stops for losses and 10 quarterback pressures and deflected four passes. In 2007 he was a Second-team All-Big Ten Conference and the team’s Defensive Most Valuable Player. he started all 13 games at right defensive end and made 18.0 stops for losses and a career-high 60 tackles (41 solos) with five sacks, three pass deflections and four pressures. The year before, in 2005, he was First-team Freshman All-American honors from The Sporting News and ESPN.com and an honorable mention All-Big Ten Conference after appearing in 11 games, starting seven, at right defensive end and finishing with 39 tackles (20 solos), 2.5 sacks, five pressures, 7.5 stops for losses and a pair of pass deflections.
Wiki
November 12th, 2010 at 7:21 am
I mean ShoHonkey
November 12th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:19 am
ShoHennessy is living up to his name, and ShoHouston is solid on the other side. ShoWhiteboy remains a tweener…
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Trevor needs to be a 34 OLB and play about 15 snaps a game.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:22 am
trade Brittle Bruce for ShoHonkey!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:22 am
mana, DHB, da kine mana. GET IT!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Raiders win the division, Jets win the division, Pats get the Wildcard and the Round 1 game is Raiders-Pats in Oakland.
Seymour will go ape-shat in that game, mark my words.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Welcme to the site NorthernRaider. Advice, don’t get caught up in the mud-slinging crap that sometimes occurs. You will learn who to ignore.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:24 am
TS is a situational pass rusher and a darn good one.
but thats all he is.
he cant contain the edge and he cant cover anybody
LA is right. Maybe he’s better suited for a 3-4 OLB spot on a blitz happy team?
he could easily lead the league in sacks imo
November 12th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Northern, welcome
if you hate Higgins or Huff you’re already dead to me!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Scott gets good pressure of the edge on 3rd downs.
First and second downs are the issue with him.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Why can’t the Raiders go 12-4?
I see nobody we can’t and shouldn’t beat.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:29 am
cross your fingers that serious injuries don’t plague the Raiders down the stretch as they know with the present personnel groups they can play and beat any team in the NFL.
sure, there will likely be some games that the Zebras will throw to the opponents, but that shouldn’t break the overall spirit of the team.
one can only hope that the SeaBass miscue in Phoenix isn’t the difference between a playoff berth and none.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Jimbo,
the Dolts won 11 or 13 straight last year, didn’t they?
I don’t see any reason why the Raiders wouldn’t be able to win 10 straight (3 down, 7 to go)
November 12th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Anyone missing Jay Richardson aka ShoSuckeye? Where’d he end up?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:30 am
I need a Zach Miller update. Please someone tell me that he’s off crutches and at least back on the treadmill. Any news?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:31 am
J-Rich is in Seattle
November 12th, 2010 at 7:31 am
I’d like to see Wimbley as RDE on 3rd and long, Goethel and McClain at the LB spots (if nickel package). Get Trevor in there as WLB in 43.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:31 am
I need a Zach Miller update. Please someone tell me that he’s off crutches and at least back on the treadmill. Any news?
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Khalif Barnes was taking all the first team reps on Monday & Tuesday
November 12th, 2010 at 7:32 am
How wrong the experts can be.
“I can’t remember being in such awe of a QB in my decade of attending combines or Pro Day’s” -Todd McShay
“…John Elway like” -Mel Kiper
Descriptions of JaLoser
November 12th, 2010 at 7:33 am
BoSJack,
JayRich is practicing as a long snapper just in case the Raiders need one to quell your qualms about JonC.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Dolt fans are all acting like it’s a given they will pass the Raiders. I love the fact that they are trailing us and we are up on them in divisional record. I’d like to see their playoff run ended.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:31 am
I need a Zach Miller update. Please someone tell me that he’s off crutches and at least back on the treadmill. Any news?
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Khalif Barnes was taking all the first team reps on Monday & Tuesday
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thanks for the update. Barnes will take us to the promised land. I’d love to see him catch another in the end zone as he steps on Polamalu.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Condo = ShoSnapper ?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Why is there so much hate of Condo?
I don’t get it. Inside joke?
He does his job, and does it well. Sure we sacrifice a spot to a lesser special teamer, but sometimes less is more.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Jimbo,
BoSJack is the sole anti-Condo element in the known Raider universe.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:41 am
The Philadelphia Eagles would like to retain resurgent quarterback Michael Vick for “next season and beyond,” but have not engaged in contract talks, according to the The Philadelphia Inquirer, citing sources close to the situation.
The team plans to meet over the next few weeks to discuss Vick’s future and a potential contract extension. Vick is in the second season of a two-year deal he signed with the Eagles before the 2009 campaign, after serving 18 months in prison for his role in a dogfighting ring.
The Eagles, with a history of using November to re-sign players with expiring contracts, know that Vick could be a hot commodity on the free-agent market following a string of sensational performances this season.
Vick has stated that his loyalty to the Eagles would bear weight in free agency, if it reached that point. “I think so,” he told The Inquirer. “When nobody else wanted me, they did. I definitely have to take that into consideration when it’s time to make a decision on something.”
With Vick leading the way, the Eagles (5-3) are in position to make a run in a conference that lacks a dominant team. Philadelphia, which plays the Washington Redskins (4-4) on Monday night, is 3-0 in the games Vick has started and finished.
Vick nearly led the Eagles to a comeback win against the Green Bay Packers after replacing an injured Kevin Kolb in the opener. Vick was injured in the first quarter of a loss to the Redskins in Week 4, but returned in Week 9 to guide the Eagles to a 26-24 victory over Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday.
The layoff didn’t affect his performance or his approach. Vick threw for 218 yards and one touchdown, and ran for 74 yards and another score against the Colts. He absorbed several hits in the pocket and several more when he scrambled 10 times.
Vick has thrown for 1,017 yards, seven touchdowns and no interceptions, and his passer rating of 105.3 is the highest of his career. He’s also run for 261 yards and two scores.
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I would have loved to have Vick as our QB. Look at those numbers.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Good morning nation.
Ex,
Jabustus had a lot of talent and potential, but he lacked maturity. Too bad for him & us. That’s a damn “wasted talent” (too bad he is not better when drunk/high).
November 12th, 2010 at 7:44 am
had a lot of talent and potential, but he lacked maturity. Too bad for him & us. That’s a damn “wasted talent”
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Frantz Joseph?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:44 am
[...] of the best football of his career. Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune says he’s the most dominant defensive lineman the Raiders have had since Howie Long and that Seymour is a “viable” Defensive Player [...]
November 12th, 2010 at 7:48 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Jimbo,
BoSJack is the sole anti-Condo element in the known Raider universe.
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And I’m enough. Condo = latest menace to victory.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Preppie,
Jay Richardson signed with Seattle, I think.
How is the car industry in Mich?
Trade the entire state of Mich (and everyone from there) to Canada for their best blocking FB from the CFL!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:52 am
If Zack Miller had FOOT REPLACEMENT surgery to replace the damaged arch in his foot, it would be handled this way in th Q&A
Cable: Zack had a slight twinge in his foot and as a common sense precaution we took him out of the game.
Question: Was he on crutches?
Cable: That is out normal procedure before we examine him to determine the extent of the injury.
Question: Will he go for an MRI?
Cable: Not needed. Our trainer said it was a minor tweek of the foot.
Question: How long will he be out?
Cable: It’s a day to day issue. We will work him out Friday and access his availibility.
Six weeks later……………………..
Cable: I will confirm that Zack had a minor procedure to correct a pre-existing condition and will possibly be ready for the wild card game if we qualify.
Question: Who will play Zack’s position?
Cable: With Brandon Myers, he brings to the table a lot of the skill set that Miller brings. Khalif Barnes
will back up Myers in special packages.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:52 am
RR,
LMAO
No no real talent there. Dude lacks NFL speed!
November 12th, 2010 at 7:53 am
That explains a lot, Southwick’s mom hates Condo. Does she really think he’d have a spot if it weren’t for Condo?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:54 am
How is the car industry in Mich?
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Resurgent, thanks to timely intervention from our great American President. GM = 2$B profit and govt. owned shares will soon all be all sold. Govt. will actually make a grand profit (your fave concept, monkey-in-training).
November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 am
I heard Jon Condo hooked up with Shawn Southwick after she divorced Larry King!
true or false?
November 12th, 2010 at 7:57 am
American cars are crap. My wifes Lincoln’s shifter is going out. A lousy shifter on a car with 40K miles costs $1200 to fix. My Toyota has 140K and nothing but oil changes and tires, belts and such…
But never will I buy American again. We make junk. It is sad.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:57 am
333.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:32 am
How wrong the experts can be.
“I can’t remember being in such awe of a QB in my decade of attending combines or Pro Day’s” -Todd McShay
“…John Elway like” -Mel Kiper
Descriptions of JaLoser
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To be fair I believe McShay qualified his statements by saying something about doubts about Russell’s desire to play the game and his leadership qualities. No doubt Russell could sling the ball around a practice field with no defenders…too bad the Raiders didn’t dig deeper into his personality.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Bimbo,
Your Southwick sanctimony has been logged. Adam Treu will soon be visiting you to give you a visceral presentation on the art of longsnapping.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:58 am
I’ve been to Mich. There are parts of Detroit that look like a 3rd world country.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:56 am
I heard Jon Condo hooked up with Shawn Southwick after she divorced Larry King!
true or false?
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It would explain his knucklehead scholarship…
November 12th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Boy am I glad I didn’t bother to make the trip to Denver for the Lakers’ game last night. I would have been pissed on the five hour drive home after watching the Lakers piss a 10 point lead down their shorts.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Jimbo Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:58 am
I’ve been to Mich. There are parts of Detroit that look like a 3rd world country.
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That’s an insult to a 3rd world country.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Bo,
Are Those IPOs selling well? I have too busy studying, so I didn’t read any news. I watched one of their IPO road shows.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
That’s an insult to a 3rd world country.
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November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Dakota Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Boy am I glad I didn’t bother to make the trip to Denver for the Lakers’ game last night. I would have been pissed on the five hour drive home after watching the Lakers piss a 10 point lead down their shorts.
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81-1
November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Not an IPO dummy. Preferred shares.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Dakota,
how do you expect to compete against Miami or Boston if you can’t even whoop Dungver?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
LA, ROFLMAO
November 12th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Defining Michigan by Detroit is like defining Cali by Oakhole.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Defining Michigan by Detroit is like defining Cali by Oakhole.
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Agreed!
can we define Illinois by Chicago?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:05 am
I know…They could have been 9-0, but hey…they do actually look better for the long haul this year
November 12th, 2010 at 8:06 am
362.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Dakota,
how do you expect to compete against Miami or Boston if you can’t even whoop Dungver?
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Miami? Didn’t they lose again last night? Might not even make the playoffs at this rate!
Boston? LMAO, still old and slow and injury-prone.
Lakers’ biggest opponents for another ring are the Jazz and the Thunder out west.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Preppie,
Dude, talk about what you know pls. They have an IPO , and they are doing a road show for it.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Chicago is magnificent. The rest of IL is pretty non-descript. Missouri-like even, except without the roasting squirrel smell.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Trivia Q: Whisch US state has the longest coastline?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Chicago is magnificent. The rest of IL is pretty non-descript. Missouri-like even, except without the roasting squirrel smell.
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Half-true….
This is a city where you need to know what parts you can go and where not to. I think Champaign is nice though.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Trivia Q: Whisch US state has the longest coastline?
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Is that coastline bordering freshwater or the ocean?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Let me guess, Michigan….if you count lakes….but hey, anyone ever measured all the lake coast lines in Minnesota?
Or does it have to be one continuous coast line?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Mustafa,
I meant the Gov’t shares are preferred. They will not be sold in the IPO…only later when price rises.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:14 am
What coastline would you rather visit?
1) A freezing arctic mass with pudgy overweight chicks that ice fish, or
2) Florida coastline with hot chicks wading in warm waters on glistening beaches?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:16 am
The rest of IL is pretty non-descript. Missouri-like even
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trade Chicago to Indiana!
make IL a better place
November 12th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Jimbo Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:14 am
What coastline would you rather visit?
1) A freezing arctic mass with pudgy overweight chicks that ice fish, or
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Hey, it is not nice to talk about Canada like that!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Dakota,
Mich?! Coastline?!
LMAO
Cali has a coastline,Mich has an infested LakeLine!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:18 am
A freezing arctic mass with pudgy overweight chicks that ice fish
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are you serious?
Mmmmmm
I’ve got my plans for a Christmas vacation!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:20 am
You live in Florida, any part of Florida…
you are within one hours drive of a beach.
Fact.
I live 5 minutes from the beach.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Chicago is magnificent. The rest of IL is pretty non-descript. Missouri-like even, except without the roasting squirrel smell.
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LOL
November 12th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Jimbo Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:20 am
You live in Florida, any part of Florida…
you are within one hours drive of a beach.
Fact.
I live 5 minutes from the beach.
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One hour’s drive from some lake peppered with toothless rednecks trying to shoot gators.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:25 am
roasting squirrel smell?
One hour’s drive from some lake peppered with toothless rednecks trying to shoot gators?
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you guys don’t know tall timber from underbrush!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Preppie,
That makes more sense.
“IF not when price rises”
November 12th, 2010 at 8:26 am
RRS – I have no hate for JLH or Huff…my only beef with either of them has been consistency. They have both shown the talent they have over othe last few years, it’s just heart-breaking to see some of the mental lapses they’ve had (JLH seemed to be ‘hearing footsteps’ for a bit, Huff taking a bad angle).
And for those of you who like to keep track – my prediction is that we take this division this year…ONLY if we beat Pitts (and I think we will). That game sets the stage for the 2nd half of our season and a victory hear will propel our boys to the top of the AFC West. KC is a mirage and their passing game will catch up to them, SD will lose the 2nd meeting to us and the Donks aren’t worth discussing.
However, IF we lose to the Steelers then we really will have to claw and scratch to sniff the post-season. I truly believe that with this young team it’s all about their CONFIDENCE level…confidence to play up to their abilities and to keep fighting knowing that victories will result. The smackdown at Denver carried into the beatdown in Seattle which gave them the moxie to tough it out when KC had us down. Lose to Pitts and they may start to have doubts…play hesitant and cease to ‘let ‘er rip’ (Damn, I love that line).
To me, Pittsburgh is the KEY game for the rest of our season. How we respond to coming off the bye, facing one of the ‘elite’ teams who wants to punch you back in the mouth…this game sets the tone for what we can expect on the remaining schedule.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:26 am
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One hour’s drive from some lake peppered with toothless rednecks trying to shoot gators.
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I love those people. Rednecks is good people. Seriously. If I could move up to Gainesville where all the real rednecks live, I’d be happy.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I’m starting a petition to rename all sports teams after the people in their home city:
Oakland Criminals
Kansas City Rednecks
Denver Snowbunnies
San Diego STDs
to start
November 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
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you guys don’t know tall timber from underbrush!
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that comment tells me you are an all the way converted Podunkian.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
you guys don’t know tall timber from underbrush!
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yeah but I could Google it and actually read the results.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I’m starting a petition to rename all sports teams after the people in their home city:
Oakland Criminals
Kansas City Rednecks
Denver Snowbunnies
San Diego STDs
to start
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Pittsburgh & Miami up next!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:28 am
that comment tells me you are an all the way converted Podunkian.
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Jimbo,
you’ve heard that line before?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Good Morning Nation!!
I live 45 minutes from Santa Monica Beach, Venice Beach, Hermosa Beach, 30 minutes from Huntington Beach!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Pittsburgh Fat@sses
Miami Relocated New York Hebrews (runners up: Miami Puerto Ricans, Miami LeBrons)
November 12th, 2010 at 8:30 am
my prediction is that we take this division this year…ONLY if we beat Pitts (and I think we will).
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Northern meet AIG!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:30 am
-The OSU > Mich. Go Bucks!
-Legalize it!! Make revenue from taxes and cuts gov spending.
-The Raiders are improving, and Coaching staff is also improving. Great year!
Later Gents.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:30 am
r8eray Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Good Morning Nation!!
I live 45 minutes from Santa Monica Beach, Venice Beach, Hermosa Beach, 30 minutes from Huntington Beach!
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It’s a beautiful thing isn’t it? My favorite spot is about halfway between SM pier and Venice boardwalk, off Ocean Park.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Miami Relocated New York Hebrews (runners up: Miami Puerto Ricans
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racist!
we would get killed by 53 LeBrons …
November 12th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Pittsburgh is really beat up on both lines. And Miami is starting noodle arm Pennington. We extend the record to 7-4, easy.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:32 am
The biggest gripe about Florida, is the relocated Jew Yorkers.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:34 am
The biggest gripe about Florida, is the relocated Jew Yorkers.
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Adam Sandler?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Adam Sandler?
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yep, him and his ilk. Major Aholes. And that’s not racism. I don’t hate anyone because of their race. that’s personal experience.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Dakota Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Let me guess, Michigan….if you count lakes….but hey, anyone ever measured all the lake coast lines in Minnesota?
Or does it have to be one continuous coast line?
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Alaska biotches. Michigan is number two.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:39 am
390.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I’m starting a petition to rename all sports teams after the people in their home city:
Oakland Criminals
Kansas City Rednecks
Denver Snowbunnies
San Diego STDs
to start
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Pittsburgh & Miami up next!
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Miami Coke Heads
Pittsburgh Drearies
Detroit Unemployed
Minnesota Weirdos
Seattle Raindogs
San Fran Liberals
Dallas Fatboys
Green Bay Cheesedicks
November 12th, 2010 at 8:39 am
I don’t hate anyone because of their race.
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if Al Davis was african american, a blogger whose name rhymes with Jewel Sell would be his biggest fan!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Just wanted to check in with some pretty cool stats about Darren Mcfadden’s season so far. He is on a very similar pace as Marcus Allen’s best statistical year of 1985 according to Pro Football Reference. As we know he leads the league in rushing yards per game and the reason he isnt # 1 in the NFL in rushing is because he missed 2 games due to injury. Anyways, McFadden’s most important stats vs Allen’s 1985 season are as follows:
Rushing YPG – 108.1 to 109.9
Rushing YPC – 5.4 to 4.6
Rushing TD – 4 to 11
Receptions per game – 3.4 to 4.2
Receiving Yards per game – 34.6 to 34.7
Receiving TDs – 2 to 3
As you can see, he is on a very good pace, the only thing McFadden needs to pick up is his rushing TDs, which is no easy task. He is on pace for 7 to 8 by the end of season which is nice if you compare it to his first 2 season, but nothing special.
What I think is most important for him to do is to have big games against the teams that will give up the big rushing numbers like Jacksonville, Denver and Indy. That way there is room for those games where things will be tougher like vs the Chiefs last week where he only got 89 yards rushing and next week vs Steelers where there will probably be very little running room.
The other most important thing is staying healthy, of course. I think having Michael Bush really helps even though it takes away some carries. It keeps him fresh so he can really get after it when he is on the field.
I guess the point I’m making is that the Raiders finally have a bonafide star at running back, barring further injury. They really havent had this since Bo and Marcus if you think about it. The best season any back has had since them is Kaufman at 1294 yards. A great season, but not that impressive when you think about some of the backs this game has seen over the past 10-15 years, with the 2000+ yad season, etc. McFadden seems to be on pace for a 1500+ yard season and that is a welcome sight. The Raiders have been missing this since I can remember! I know they led the league in rushing in 2000 with Wheatley and Kaufman, but they never have the ONE guy. It seems like McFadden is it! It is very exciting to watch ever Sunday and even though the stress levels will be down this Sunday with the bye week, I still hate it and wish they played every Sunday. I live for this stuff! Just thought I’d share that little comparison! It is only 9 games, but hopefully the guy can keep it up!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Michigan is number two.
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poop or JaMarcus?
or, is there a difference?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:41 am
It’s a beautiful thing isn’t it? My favorite spot is about halfway between SM pier and Venice boardwalk, off Ocean Park.
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Ahh you mean Bay Street… sublime. Go Gondoliers!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:41 am
No Walruses in Michigan.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:42 am
As you can see, he is on a very good pace, the only thing McFadden needs to pick up is his rushing TDs, which is no easy task. He is on pace for 7 to 8 by the end of season which is nice if you compare it to his first 2 season, but nothing special.
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What do you expect when Hue or Cable or whoever lets McFadden get us to the goal line and then they stick twinkle toes Bush in there for the TD?
McFadden is clearly the more powerful runner, but Bush gets the call in the goal line area. He is better at scoring that Fargas, but not by much.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Indianapolis Noplaces
Miami Montanas (as in Tony)
Jacksonville Sandcracks
Carolina Fifes
November 12th, 2010 at 8:44 am
they stick twinkle toes Bush in there for the TD
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before the season everybody was talking him up like the next Jerome Bettis or Earl Campbell!
I compared him to Ron Dayne or a poor man’s Brandon Jacobs … LOL
November 12th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Cleveland Sh!tfarmers
Cincinatti Banjoliers
November 12th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Dakota Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:39 am
390.RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
I’m starting a petition to rename all sports teams after the people in their home city:
Oakland Criminals
Kansas City Rednecks
Denver Snowbunnies
San Diego STDs
to start
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Pittsburgh & Miami up next!
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Miami Coke Heads
Pittsburgh Drearies
Detroit Unemployed
Minnesota Weirdos
Seattle Raindogs
San Fran Liberals
Dallas Fatboys
Green Bay Cheesedicks
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You know, you wanted to say San Fran. #*&%@%$!!!!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:46 am
McFadden should have been allowed to score 2 more rushing TDs against Denver, but after riding McFadden to the goal line it was decided that Bush and some other guy should be rewarded for McFadden’s hard work.
Totally ruined what could have been a very special day!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:46 am
can we still call Pittsburgh the Buttpirates or is that strictly used for baseball purposes?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:47 am
You know, you wanted to say San Fran. #*&%@%$!!!!
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Aren’t they synonyms?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Good point Dakota, but Darren has had some chances, like the one against Seattle he broke, it looked to me like he let up and started to cruise just slightly when he thought he was in the clear and that Seahawk was able to trip him. I think if he had accelerated through that run he would have scored on that play, I think it would have been an 80 yard TD, which would have been the THE highlight of the season. Anyways, I agree though, he should be in on goal line situations to score.
At the same time, Bush has been on my fantasy team lately when others have bye weeks, etc, so I dont mind when he scores, lol.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Carrots?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Oakland Criminals 16
Miami Meeks 10
(Kendrick Meek)
November 12th, 2010 at 8:51 am
418.r8eray Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Carrots?
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You mean the kind Barney Frank nibbles on?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:51 am
DMAC needs to score on his longer runs.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Trade Jon Condo for Barney Frank!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Not that there is anything wrong with that of course!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Fruit cakes?
November 12th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Not an IPO dummy. Preferred shares.
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IPO common shares that they can’t give away.
Great article from the Motley Fool crunching the numbers.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2010/10/16/is-general-motors-ipo-destined-to-fail.aspx
November 12th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Dakota Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:51 am
418.r8eray Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Carrots?
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You mean the kind Barney Frank nibbles on?
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LMFAO!!!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Dakota Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:47 am
You know, you wanted to say San Fran. #*&%@%$!!!!
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Aren’t they synonyms?
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Didn’t know “#*&%@%$!!!!” meant “progressives.”
November 12th, 2010 at 8:55 am
The slut Carrie Prejean-Boller is expecting a child. I bet it comes out looking like JaMarcus.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2010/11/carrie-prejean-pregnant-kyle-boller-baby.html
November 12th, 2010 at 8:56 am
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Miami Coke Heads
Pittsburgh Drearies
Detroit Unemployed
Minnesota Weirdos
Seattle Raindogs
San Fran Liberals
Dallas Fatboys
Green Bay Cheesedicks
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LMAO, by the way.
I would have to say
Seattle Suicidals and Minnesota Don’tyaknows
November 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Young baby Boller will become our president in 50 years.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:58 am
I love the AM Squad.
November 12th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Congrats to Kyle & Carrie!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:58 am
430.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Young baby Boller will become our president in 50 years.
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Not if Long Worthy Dakota has anything to say about it!
November 12th, 2010 at 8:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Congrats to Kyle & Carrie!
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I see a reality show coming.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I’m thinking Manny Pacquiao might lose tomorrow night.
That Margarito is a tough dude, and could rough up the Pac-Man.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Who is Manny Pacquiao?
November 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
LMAO at Lebron calling out his coach for playing him too many minutes.
Hey Lebron, ever think that three max contracts together might make the bench a little thin??
November 12th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Dakota,
how is that baby Long Worthy of yours doing? (glad you brought him into the discussion as it seemed things around here were beginning to devolve toward PM-like gibberish.)
November 12th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Young baby Boller will become our president in 50 years.
Not if Long Worthy Dakota has anything to say about it!
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Darren Darrius Johnnie Kirk Humuhumunukunukuapua’a Condo Huff will also be in the mix!
November 12th, 2010 at 9:04 am
437.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
LMAO at Lebron calling out his coach for playing him too many minutes.
Hey Lebron, ever think that three max contracts together might make the bench a little thin??
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First brick in the Road to Pat Riley laid?
November 12th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Freudian, that…
November 12th, 2010 at 9:07 am
soon-to-be, the Hon. Humu Rockstar presiding over a congressional district in Podunk…
c’mon 12-21-12! let ‘er rip ’cause things are gettin’ pretty dicey ’round here.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:09 am
The Seymour article just goes to show how important chemistry is in the locker room.
Goes to show that the biggest offseason move was stiff-arming Jamarcus right out of the NFL.
One of the best decisions Al Davis has made in awhile. He ditched that clown as quick as the Chargers did Ryan Leaf.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Good Mornin Nation
November 12th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Where’s the purp?
November 12th, 2010 at 9:11 am
438.M Lonetree Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Dakota,
how is that baby Long Worthy of yours doing? (glad you brought him into the discussion as it seemed things around here were beginning to devolve toward PM-like gibberish.)
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Almost 9 months old and he is a monster. 32.5 inches tall and 27 lbs. Started crawling around about a month ago and is now standing by himself next to furniture and trying very hard to walk. Has his two front bottom and two front top teeth. Blue eyes blonde hair. Cutest damned baby in the world.
Still not sleeping well at night though…sometimes we get a 3 hour window, but usually he is up every couple of hours. Doc says he is probably just growing and hurts a little at night.
Thanks for asking!
I wish I could post a picture in here somehow.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Funny side-note in the article that Deangelo leads the NFL in yards allowed this season.
Where’s 504 at? We had a good pre-draft debate between Bama corners Kareem Jackson and Javier Arenas.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/12/kareem-jackson-isnt-the-only-problem-in-the-texans-secondary/
November 12th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Hahaha the Purp is in the medicine cabinet
November 12th, 2010 at 9:18 am
the Hon. Humu Rockstar presiding over a congressional district in Podunk…
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Rockstar Jr will be able to preach like Billy Graham, play football like Howie Long, hunt like Buck McNeely and sing like George Strait!
November 12th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Deangelo leads the NFL in yards allowed this season.
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LOL @ Shanny for keeping Meangelo around!
November 12th, 2010 at 9:26 am
That Richard Seymour trade doesn’t look so bad anymore
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 12, 2010, 10:43 AM EST
I’ll admit that I was one of those people who doubted if Oakland’s trade for Richard Seymour made sense.
It’s not that Seymour was done as a player. But was he a big enough difference maker to pay more than $10 million-per-season with no long-term deal and give up a first-round pick for?
The answer is yes in Oakland, at least for this year. Seymour is playing some of the best football of his career. Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune says he’s the most dominant defensive lineman the Raiders have had since Howie Long and that Seymour is a “viable” Defensive Player of the Year candidate.
Seymour is having a huge year against the run (he should easily break his career high in tackles) and has recorded 4.5 sacks. Perhaps just as important, Seymour is lauded as a leader and tone-setter for a defensive line finally playing to its capabilities.
“Big Rich brings the example,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly told SI’s Jim Trotter in an excellent piece on Seymour. “He don’t talk it; the résumé talks it. You already know what he means because of the Super Bowls and Pro Bowls. He commands respects, and he gives you respect. So it’s easy to follow the example of somebody like that.”
This second act by “Big Sey 93″ could equate to big dollars in free agency next year if the Raiders don’t place the franchise tag on him again. It could also bolster Seymour’s Hall of Fame chances someday. Really. He has five Pro Bowls, 3 All Pro nods, 3 Super Bowl rings, and was arguably the best defensive player on two of those teams.
For now, Seymour will just focus on helping the Raiders win games, making that draft pick they sent to New England slide further down the first round.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Just Fire, what you goin to LC for? I’m headin up to Duke City sunday
November 12th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Rockstar Jr will be able to preach like Billy Graham, play football like Howie Long, hunt like Buck McNeely and sing like George Strait!
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So what you’re saying is he’ll be a redneck that plays football like Howie Long?
November 12th, 2010 at 9:36 am
You have to teach him the Podink and Podunk offense, RRS.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Morning peoples!
November 12th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Slowed down in here. Like JaMarcus slow.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Here’s my daily check in. I told you all that this last game was very similar to the game in KC last year with JR at the helm. I went back and found some comments and I thought some of the schytt applies today and funny as heck…..I admit I am as guilty on JR and that is why I am not buying this schytt again. I took everyone’s name off to avoid embarrassment. Enjoy.
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September 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
……I really hope JRuss is the guy. I give him all the credit in the world for leading scoring drives. But other than that, I don’t care about all the other BS. As long as he is not turning the ball over, our D and STs are good enough to win games!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
i hear you Jhill.all we can do is hope he steps up and becomes what some believe he can be.if he does this team could go a long way.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
…..ALL roads point to JRUSS….. He will get it done….
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Russell is the starting QB of my Raiders and I’m riding with you big dawg!! These arm-chair QBs can hate all they want but when the game has been on the line….JR has been on the money! That you can’t teach….HATERS!!
Da kid will be fine…no other QB in the NFL has essentially 3 rookies as their top WRs. Most of you seldom mention that or can’t comprehend the significance of the impact on the QB.
September 20th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Absolutely terrible game on offense. All Russell. But in the end he deliver just as he did last week. It was terrible to watch though.
September 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
It was ugly. Really ugly. But they won.
Is Jamarcus the next Rothlisberger? A mediocre QB who somehow finds a way to win?
September 20th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
…and it makes him look very inaccurate when he just needs to play faster. I’m not sure if or how long it will take him to understand that. ut there is no way you can hold this team back if he wont perform.
This is inexcusable and he’s a better player than that. He just is doing what Huff was doing at his position he’s being too careful with the football.
September 20th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
…..What I tell ya, the Raiders in a low-scoring snoozer of a game. I predicted 16-6, I’ll take 13-10.
priesttj Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Russell gets a reprieve basedon the demonstration tht he can get it done when it counts. Two weeks in a row late game come from behind drives to take the lead. It shows he has the ability what’s lacking is any degree consistency as I mentioned last night. He probably wont show that until maybe midseason.
Russell has to come out against the Broncos and show some improvement. I think he will redeem himself he got this stinker out of the way. Hopefully.
September 20th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The worst passes of the day (there were plenty)
1- The Murphy potential TD, only he lobbed the ball too far and over the wrong shoulder, when the inside was wide open.
2- The bad screen to D-mac in the 1st quarter. Would have been 10 yards easy.
3- The Miller overthrow. Wide open and it was 5 feet over his head.
September 20th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
We were outgained on offense 406 yards to 166 yards.
Bush should be starting, not McFadden. One touch and McFadden goes down.
McFadden is also being used wrong. The are running him up the middle instead of to the outside which is his strength. Run Bush up the middle.
Gradowski is better than Russell. If Rich Ganon had been our quarterback today, the final score would have been 30-10.
Kudos to the defense, and thank God for Richard Seymour.
September 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Was JaMarcus terrible until that last drive? Absolutely.
But he did engineer that last drive to put us ahead just like in the first game against San Diego.
A win is a win. I think JaMarcus’ biggest problem right now may just be confidence. Hopefully this win and the final drive give him some confidence to start slinging it like I know he can in the games ahead.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Brees is on another planet but Russell is very accurate inside the hash marks. We just have to extend it to outpatterns and he will be All Pro.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:50 am
If I ever see Tim Kawakami I am going to punch him for John Herrera!
November 12th, 2010 at 9:51 am
September 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Was JaMarcus terrible until that last drive? Absolutely.
But he did engineer that last drive to put us ahead just like in the first game against San Diego.
A win is a win. I think JaMarcus’ biggest problem right now may just be confidence. Hopefully this win and the final drive give him some confidence to start slinging it like I know he can in the games ahead.
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I wonder if that’s mine. I thought I was his last supporter. He lost me in that interview where he basically blamed everything on everyone else.
Asked the reporter something to the effect of “did you think it was my fault?”
Reporter was like “um, well yeah.”
JaMarcus said “we’re done.”
Lost.
November 12th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Did you see the look on LeBrons face when Shaq gave him the hard foul?
From Yahoo:
Most of all, James found himself in postseason shape, closing a loss to the Boston Celtics with a missed layup, two missed free throws and a corner 3-pointer off the side of the backboard.
The world’s bearing down, times are tumultuous, and James is the one Heat star in playoff form.
LMFAO
November 12th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Wonder how long before Pat Riley takes over the Heat.
November 12th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Who cares about basketball its football season!!
Basketball is so easy a 55 year old man made 5,000 free throws in a row and LeBron James cant make 50% of his free throws.
So lame and so gay of a sport how can you talk about it here in a manly football blog?
November 12th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Go DUBS!
November 12th, 2010 at 10:13 am
LeBaron wil fail. Injuries wil start creeping up as they realize Bosh is too weak to play down low for real.
November 12th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Bronco LB DJ Williams = DUI
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/11/12/broncos-lb-williams-arrested-for-dui
November 12th, 2010 at 10:16 am
hey Bo whats new
November 12th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Well, not much. I have a Fosters Oil Can callin my name and its only 12:20 here…
November 12th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Its Austrailian for beer!
I love those old oil cans!
November 12th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Yeah me too… wish they fit in my cup holder better!
November 12th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Thats in my golf cart of course…
November 12th, 2010 at 10:30 am
where is everyone…watching basketball?
November 12th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Yup watchin old basketball tapes from the 70’s
November 12th, 2010 at 10:34 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 11th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
That Al really doesn’t do what he wants, as many of his loyal fans have claimed. He’s beholden to his consumer base, like all businesses.
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Yes. Al Davis has a team of marketers who regularly conduct polls with the “consumer base”. They canvas an area from International Boulevard/East 14th Street starting just east of Lake Merritt all the way to the far reaches of Hayward. They make monthly trips to Oxnard and South Central Los Angeles, and have lately included the City of Industry – all 800 of its residents.
Among the contributions from those polled over the years:
“The Vertical Passing Game”
This was inadvertently coined by an intoxicated Berkeley youth polled in ‘63, who was trying to say that he was drunk so often that he was getting good at the “vertical passing-out game.” It stuck.
“Just Win, Baby”
This originated with an outtake from the 1940 film “Knute Rockne: All American”, starring Ronald Reagan. His memory a problem not just in his later years as President, Reagan continually flubbed the crucial line “…tell them to go out there with all they’ve got and win just one for the Gipper!” Finally, he screamed, “Just Win, Baby!” Fans saw the outtake at a rally for the Governor’s race held by Reagan in 1966, and lobbied pollsters for its inclusion in Raiders branding.
“The Pompadour”
Fans in Oakland, obsessed with the then recent phenomenon of the Hells Angels, wanted to see rebel club’s style reflected in their city’s professional sports franchises. Davis responded with an imitation of Sonny Barger’s pompadour from the late fifties/early sixties.
November 12th, 2010 at 10:37 am
473 LMAO
November 12th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Colin Cowherd is a COWARD on BPSN.
Can’t stand that pompous azz!
November 12th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Yeah Colin Cowhored is a giant d1k !I hope someone kicks him in the b@lls…
November 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Where did everyone go?
November 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Some of didn’t eat our Jimmy Dean Sausage Breakfast this morning. Real slowage after a fast and furious start.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Did anyone watch the Falcons game the other day? Those broadcasters where on RYANS nuts like white on rice. Although he was money in that last drive …
November 12th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Helloooooooo Is there ne1 out there??????
November 12th, 2010 at 11:13 am
I hope the loss the Raiders gave the Chiefs derails their season. we need a big win from the donks. Chiefs have a cake schedule the last half of the season.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Go Denver and whoever plays the Chargers.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Chargers on a bye
November 12th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Go Denver and whoever plays the Chargers the rest of the year*
November 12th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Chokers = overrated
November 12th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Kampman’s done for the year. Looks like Kirk Morrisson will be Jacksonville’s best run defender when we play them.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:19 am
The Queefs will falter because Haley is a Douche
November 12th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Texans should have won that game against chargers… never trust a texan
November 12th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Whats up with SD having 3 home games in a ROW ? I think the NFL whats them to WIN … I despise them !
November 12th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Jaguars = overrated
November 12th, 2010 at 11:22 am
More worried about the Chokers than the Queefs. Think we can take the Queefs in K.C. But a the S.D. game is the big one. We beat ‘em in S.D., and the division is ours.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
NFL always wants SD to win… the chargers cant even be given a SB
November 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
The Jacksonville Sandsnatches are the perfect home for a fashion pzzy like Kirk.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:25 am
BumpNRun Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:22 am
More worried about the Chokers than the Queefs. Think we can take the Queefs in K.C. But a the S.D. game is the big one. We beat ‘em in S.D., and the division is ours.
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I agree. SD’s scratching and clawing their way back into the picture. We shut em down in their barn, we’ll be good.
I still wouldn’t look past Denver though. They’ll be out for vengence.
Really, every game must be looked at like a playoff must-win game.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Kirk will probably tally up 12 solo tackles in that game (9 of which made 10+ yards downfield).
November 12th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Funny how just 2 players are capable of making 52 plus coaches and owner look like champins.
It’s fair to say that Seymour makes the DL and the entire defense better probably because he’ll occupy two blockers leaving the other 3 DLinemen to make plays. As it’s been the case, a good DL makes the defensive backs’ work easier, and as long as they stay away from the penalties this defense will continue to play better.
As well, DMac’s running turns a questionable OLine into a better unit, giving better offensive play-calling opportunities, keeping the defenses honest to play the run more thus allowing Campbell and Gradkz to look better than expected.
Likely the reason that both Seymour and McFadden were questioned so critically is because they were expected to produce, particularly Seymour because of his experience. Nnamdi is the third clog to this equation, if he’s willing and ready to step up to DMac and Seymour’s level this team will go far.
To beat the squeeler’s, first the Raiders need to limit penalties (hard to do with these refs), go to a short passing game and multiple screens to neutralize the pass rush and their 8 men-front, and allow running lanes for DMac and Bush. The squeeler’s OLine is beat up now, they’re going to New England this week and will take another pounding, the Raiders defensive scheme needs to zone blitz relentlessly and pound Pittsburgh’s OLine to offset their running and control of the ball. Stick the quickest and toughest db on Wallace to beat him up on the line of scrimmage and slow him down a step.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
LA To TheBay Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Really, every game must be looked at like a playoff must-win game.
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True. Sweet to be able to say that, too. Looks like we have the toughest second half schedule, though.
Right about the Donkeys, too, although they’re the most likely to fold. Man, what a mess that franchise is. Al Davis is old, but Bowlen has alzheimer’s.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Zopi .. good points about squeelers game .. about 2 players changing a team … well, in this day and age 2 impact players is about all any team has … and the poor ones don’t have that many … but 2 impact players make a big difference for an entire team … you are dead right about that … just shows we haven’t really had any in a very long time around here
November 12th, 2010 at 11:35 am
the parity in the nfl right now is a good as it’s been in a while
November 12th, 2010 at 11:36 am
all doubts about that last comment should have been answered when the Brownies waxed the Patsies
November 12th, 2010 at 11:36 am
@ Steelers (6-2)
v. Dolphins (4-4)
@ Chargers (4-5)
@ Jaguars (4-4)
v. Broncos (2-6)
v. Colts (5-3)
@ Chiefs (5-3)
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Have to win 4/7. 8-8 might just be too close for comfort, depending on what SD and KC do. As long as Cable keeps emphasixing the division wins, things could get interesting.
Miami has a Thursday night game prior to ours, so will have plenty of rest and are 4-0 on the road.
Was kind of hoping the Colts would be resting their starters by the time we played them, but don’t think they’re good enough this year.
Also, whereas it didn’t bother us in 08 playing TB, west coast teams traveling east and playing the early game usually have a pretty rough go at it.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:37 am
GalacticGus Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 3:01 am
so what is the point about Raiders not winning without Ford?
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Uh, it’s to inject some sanity into your argument that Al’s “guerrilla warfare” tactics won this game. Al finally has a deep threat that can catch the ball. That’s why he won Sunday. He wouldn’t have won without Ford, all of his brilliant guerrilla war tactics noted.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Emphasixing is a new word I just invented. Deal with it.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
LA .. raiders remaining schedule is certainly no walk in the park .. if we make playoffs, we earn it .. that’s for sure
November 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
“It’s been a pleasure to bring my talents to South Beach now on to Memphis”
- Paul Pierce after beting Miami again.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
# GalacticGus Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 3:06 am
they don’t win without DMac.. last week, without DHB… your point is without substance… nobody cares MR… unless they want to join a debate club.
like in baseball or any other sport…. someone steps up or a few people step up… this week it was Ford. god bless him.
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Denver and Seattle suck. We probably would have beaten them with the practice squad. This KC game was the real match up, and without Jacoby Ford, the party’s over.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:40 am
right now we need to emphasix … translated: emphasize win No. 6
November 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:39 am
LA .. raiders remaining schedule is certainly no walk in the park .. if we make playoffs, we earn it .. that’s for sure
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Kind of pisses you off that we lost to Arizona (3-5) – points for 157, points against 225 and San Fransisco (2-6), points for 137, points against 178 – doesn’t it?
November 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
but dude … raiders had ford … so what’s the point
November 12th, 2010 at 11:42 am
yeah LA .. those 2 losses could come up as daggers
November 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Who is Manny Pacquiao?
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 10:13 am
LeBaron wil fail. Injuries wil start creeping up as they realize Bosh is too weak to play down low for real.
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Bronco LB DJ Williams = DUI
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/11/12/broncos-lb-williams-arrested-for-dui
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Well, not much. I have a Fosters Oil Can callin my name and its only 12:20 here…
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Yeah me too… wish they fit in my cup holder better!
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:24 am
The Jacksonville Sandsnatches are the perfect home for a fashion pzzy like Kirk.
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Bo, I think you’ve run out of clever material, since the Dmac stuff petered out.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:44 am
If we win 2 of the remaining 3 divisional games, we can win 2 out of the other 4 non-divisional games, and finish 9-7. That could clinch it. San Diego’s already lost 2 divisional games – and we’d finish with only one divisional loss in that scenario. All talk, though… game is beautiful ’cause you can never anticipate what’s gonna happen.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson sounds like the answer to a Wheel of Fortune puzzle
November 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
# ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
but dude … raiders had ford … so what’s the point
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Either learn how to read or take something for the A.D.D.
Gus said that the Raiders are winning due to Al Davis’s “guerrilla war” tactics. Obviously, they won because he finally has a deep threat with actual hands in his vertical offense. Al can just start dressing and acting normal, because his goofy mystique has absolutely NOTHING to do with the team’s success. He’s finally putting the right players in place, and good for him. That’s all it is.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Al can just start dressing and acting normal, because his goofy mystique has absolutely NOTHING to do with the team’s success.
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I thought it was, “like all business”, a crucial part of satisfying his “consumer base”?
November 12th, 2010 at 11:49 am
hey MR … sorry, didn’t read that far back … but really, I be smart … yes’um master
November 12th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Thanks for the attention KoolKell, but no I don’t need your real estate services.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
And since the Raiders are winning you have NOTHING to post huh?
November 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:42 am
yeah LA .. those 2 losses could come up as daggers
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Only thing that could be salvaged from SF loss is that it may just have been the wake up call that got this thing going.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Bump n Run, acquiring players IS part of the business that is the NFL. You guys are not on your A game today. This is sparring practice. LOL.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am
and by the way … i’m a lot more worried about who al’s drafting than what al’s wearing
November 12th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Al Davis would certainly claim that his influence on Raider success has nothing to do with his outfit. It is due to his uncanny insight into the game of football.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:52 am
ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson sounds like the answer to a Wheel of Fortune puzzle
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LOL
November 12th, 2010 at 11:53 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Bump n Run, acquiring players IS part of the business that is the NFL. You guys are not on your A game today. This is sparring practice. LOL.
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Do you play video games on “Easy” and hit on fat chicks, MR?
Seems like criticizing a guy with a 20something-80something record over the last 7+ years on a blog is kind of, well… lame.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I wonder who the hell drafted Shonasty?
He’s a gamer!
November 12th, 2010 at 11:54 am
It’s like going on a Keanu Reeves blog and saying that he’s a bad actor everyday. Then, when he wins a Golden Globe, credits the cinematographer.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Bo and Ghost To the Post, you guys should seriously ask your doctors about Ritalin. I heard it helps for A.D.D.
Galactic Gus said last night that the reason Al is winning is because of his “guerrilla war” tactics. You know, that Al is basically rope a doping the league with quirky press conference policies and deceptive transactions, what have you. Al is winning because he has a deep threat with hands, finally. Something he hasn’t had since Branch. That’s it. Al can ditch his goofy costumes, dress normal, act normal, won’t make a difference. He won this game because of Ford. Without Ford, Raiders lose, this whole party’s over and we’re back to the 7 year skid. Jacoby Ford is the difference. Go ahead, fire some more pygmy darts. This is fun.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Was he even acting in Bill & Ted?
November 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
who’s worse — McConaughey or Reeves … i think it’s a deadheat
November 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am
lol
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
hey MR … sorry, i missed last night’s comments … i was busy with life …
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
In one season, McFadden has gone from the guy who goes down too easy to their best and most explosive running back since Bo Jackson.
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Is Jerry overlooking one of my favorite players that came after Bo Jackson? You all know who I’m talking about.
November 12th, 2010 at 11:59 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Bump n Run, acquiring players IS part of the business that is the NFL. You guys are not on your A game today. This is sparring practice. LOL.
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Acquiring players? What? A.D. hasn’t acquired players in years. His team of marketers/P.R. people do it for him, based on in-depth analysis of the Raiders brand “consumer base”. I thought you pointed this out to us already?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
# ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
hey MR … sorry, i missed last night’s comments … i was busy with life …
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Your lavish social life noted, you still have poor attention skills, and have a tendency to blurt in conversations in which you don’t even know the subject.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
BumpNRun, I said no such thing. Desperation only convinces yourself you’re still in the fight. It doesn’t fool anyone else.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I can’t even understand your nonsensical rant MR.
Fact: Al’s influence on Raider success is tied to his decision-making not his wardrobe. Deal with it.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
thanks for that critique MR … I are getting smarter by the minute
November 12th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I never blamed the players Davis acquired, I blamed Davis for the position he put them in.
Players are players. They all come from the same player pool.
The difference is how they’re used and developed.
Al Davis said, “Organizations Win Super Bowls”
November 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
who’s worse — McConaughey or Reeves … i think it’s a deadheat
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After a runaway Trolly equipped with a bomb threatens San Fransisco, the city turns to two unlikely heroes….
McConaughey. Reeves.
Dead Heat.
In theatres this Summer.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Al’s one of the best target marketers in the history of corporate America. Maverick? I dunno. He’s a businessman. Let’s be honest.
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Al Davis has a team of marketers who regularly conduct polls with the “consumer base”. They canvas an area from International Boulevard/East 14th Street starting just east of Lake Merritt all the way to the far reaches of Hayward. They make monthly trips to Oxnard and South Central Los Angeles, and have lately included the City of Industry – all 800 of its residents.
Among the contributions from those polled over the years:
“The Vertical Passing Game”
This was inadvertently coined by an intoxicated Berkeley youth polled in ‘63, who was trying to say that he was drunk so often that he was getting good at the “vertical passing-out game.” It stuck.
“Just Win, Baby”
This originated with an outtake from the 1940 film “Knute Rockne: All American”, starring Ronald Reagan. His memory a problem not just in his later years as President, Reagan continually flubbed the crucial line “…tell them to go out there with all they’ve got and win just one for the Gipper!” Finally, he screamed, “Just Win, Baby!” Fans saw the outtake at a rally for the Governor’s race held by Reagan in 1966, and lobbied pollsters for its inclusion in Raiders branding.
“The Pompadour”
Fans in Oakland, obsessed with the then recent phenomenon of the Hells Angels, wanted to see the rebel club’s style reflected in their city’s professional sports franchises. Davis responded with an imitation of Sonny Barger’s pompadour from the late fifties/early sixties.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I can hardly wait for Dead Heat – The Sequel
November 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
NFL Network show ‘Sound FX’ opened w/ coverage of Cable mic’d up for the KC game…Cable’s h says to Geoff Tripplett during the discussion over Miller’s Muffed Punt in the 4th qtr, that ” you’re costing us this game”…Priceless… Cable also informs him that 2 of his crew called Miller down on the play…
Makes me wonder what’s going on…We were up by 4pts w/ a 3.5 pt spread, and we get a phantom fumble call?
these refs look crooked to me…
November 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I never blamed the players Davis acquired, I blamed Davis for the position he put them in.
-DeAngelo Hall
November 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
HairyBush Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
In one season, McFadden has gone from the guy who goes down too easy to their best and most explosive running back since Bo Jackson.
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Is Jerry overlooking one of my favorite players that came after Bo Jackson? You all know who I’m talking about.
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Harvey Williams?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Ok, so Treat Williams beat me to it, so what?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
HairyBush Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
In one season, McFadden has gone from the guy who goes down too easy to their best and most explosive running back since Bo Jackson.
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Is Jerry overlooking one of my favorite players that came after Bo Jackson? You all know who I’m talking about.
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No, he’s better than Fargas.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
VH .. sometimes u wonder about refs … but u gotta fuggitaboutit … that’s what the players are doing … teams of the past used to let those calls kill ‘em
November 12th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
HairyBush Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
In one season, McFadden has gone from the guy who goes down too easy to their best and most explosive running back since Bo Jackson.
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Is Jerry overlooking one of my favorite players that came after Bo Jackson? You all know who I’m talking about.
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Harvey Williams?
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I wouldn’t stick my “neck” out for Harvey Williams lol, but The ordained minister napolean Kaufman on the other hand was quite explosive imo, too bad his career was so short. Def one of my all time faves
November 12th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
this team is a lot more resilient … players have some character … nice for a change
November 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
HairyBush Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 11:58 am
In one season, McFadden has gone from the guy who goes down too easy to their best and most explosive running back since Bo Jackson.
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Is Jerry overlooking one of my favorite players that came after Bo Jackson? You all know who I’m talking about.
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No, he’s better than Fargas.
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I like Fargas………..in a role like William Thomas/ Zack Crockett, not as RB lol
November 12th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I was trying to figure out why this year’s Raiders are so much better than recent past Raiders … Found this article by a sports psychologist … good stuff … here’s an excerpt:
According to sports psychologist John Bartholomew, sports teams can have, or not have, what’s known as task cohesion and social cohesion. Together, these two attributes come together to define the level of group cohesion.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I bet Fargas could longsnap…
November 12th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The story also says:
Social cohesion refers to the positive feelings that players have for one another and the degree to which they socialize, whereas task cohesion refers to how united a team is in pursuit of a common goal. It doesn’t necessarily mean that everyone on the team likes one another. It means they are willing to subjugate their individual success for the good of the group.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Ghost…I FULLY expect to get crappy calls from the refs, it’s how they ‘do’ us, same as it ever was…
I’m more concerned that they seemed to be trying to keep the game low scoring and towards the end, possibly effecting the spread…
Most penalties ALL season in any game, should have someone looking at the ref crew…
November 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Neck? Trade Jon Condo for Merton Hanks!
November 12th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Nothing is more important, IMO, than “team cohesion” … just look at this year’s SF Giants … Everybody knew they had great pitching, but the team came together and that’s why they won it all .. Raiders are starting to show some team cohesion … i like it
November 12th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I was trying to figure out why this year’s Raiders are so much better than recent past Raiders
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Mr Davis has taken the shackles off his Coaches.
Blitzes
Spreads
Reverses
Wildcats
Tosses
Cover 5’s (whatever the hell that is)
November 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Loved the footage of the post game Locker room and the ‘Hip, Hip, Hooray!’ that Cable pulled out…
Can’t get enough of this team…
Gonna be a long weekend w/out a game to look forward too…
November 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I’m inclined to agree with Kell, for the most part.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Neck? Trade Jon Condo for Merton Hanks!
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gotta respect that crazy dance he had though lol
November 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
VanHeathen Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Loved the footage of the post game Locker room and the ‘Hip, Hip, Hooray!’ that Cable pulled out…
Can’t get enough of this team…
Gonna be a long weekend w/out a game to look forward too…
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Yeah, Cable’s ‘off the hook,’ lol.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
VH, might have a point … but honestly, if I thought for a minute the refs are making calls based on the betting line, i’d never watch another minute of the NFL
November 12th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I can see it happening in the crappy boring ass NBA regular season … but in the NFL? … That would be like an atomic bomb
November 12th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
I think Rolando said cover 5 to throw the media off, just for having to do the interview. Everybody on Sirius radio was wondering what cover 5 was. didnt hear Loose Gannon speakon it. I think he meant nickel
November 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
But, on the other side of the coin … I had a good friend who used to gamble for a living. He used to often ask the rhetorical question: “People kill for money. Do you think they’d cheat for it?”
November 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
According to sports psychologist John Bartholomew, sports teams can have, or not have, what’s known as task cohesion and social cohesion. Together, these two attributes come together to define the level of group cohesion.
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Never understood why A.D. discounts chemistry. This team seems to have it. But then, I guess there’s always the other side of the coin: winning is the active ingredient in ‘chemistry’, and everything else is just filler.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Didn’t Tommy Kelly say the other day, something to the effect, that, “They let the dogs out”?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I’m not so sure AL doesn’t put merit in chemistry … the Raiders teams of the 70s had some of the best chemistry in the history of sports … But I don’t know if it’s something you can make (like in a lab) or it just happens (like in nature)
November 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Whoooo Let the Dogs Out, Hoof….Hoof Hoof Hoof…..HoofHoof.
Al Davis, I guess.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
hey Kell, shouldn’t that be whoof, whoof or at least ruff, ruff .. lol
November 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
aw hell … hoof hook works for me
November 12th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
just keep letting the dogs out .. whatever noise they make
November 12th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Whoooo Let the Dogs Out, Hoof….Hoof Hoof Hoof…..HoofHoof.
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And you have the nerve to call me un-clever?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
hey .. what happened to MR … did he leave or just get tired of nobody liking him?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Adam Sadler is hilarious! Whoever has a problem with him needs to look in the mirror!
November 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
And isnt this A Raider blog and not a tmz blog?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I’m not so sure AL doesn’t put merit in chemistry … the Raiders teams of the 70s had some of the best chemistry in the history of sports … But I don’t know if it’s something you can make (like in a lab) or it just happens (like in nature)
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Good call. Put ‘em together, see what happens, and let the coaches sort out the result. Control what you can control (signing the players), getting a game plan together – and let the rest ride. Man, that ‘76 team was a monster, wasn’t it?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
hey raiderdave … are u on the right blog?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
loved the ‘76 team … one of my favs
November 12th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
but the 77-78 playoff game against the Colts was one for the ages — double OT I think — eight lead changes … bert jones vs. snake … classic
November 12th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
yeah, and that was the year the Raiders got screwed in the AFC Champ game against Denver when they disallowed a clear fumble by the Jackass’s at the goal line … that was the year it would have been snake vs. staubach in the Super Bowl
November 12th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Oh yeah check post 401. Way off base!
November 12th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
ok dave … gotcha … better late than never, huh … lol
November 12th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
The last jersey I ever purchased was a Nap Kauf.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
lol! I know I was just skimming through posts and it caught my eye lmao!
November 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Nap Kauf could flat out fly for a RB .. he was kinda like CJ in Tenn.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Ghosttothepost Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
but the 77-78 playoff game against the Colts was one for the ages — double OT I think — eight lead changes … bert jones vs. snake … classic
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Pops still talks about that game. In Baltimore, at the old stadium. Divisional playoff game.
The Denver fumble at the goal line was clear as could be – a worse call than the Snow Job and Immaculate Reception put together…
November 12th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
He quit in his prime to become a minister … wow
November 12th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
I was tired of reading the same stuff about campbell vs.grads debate.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
yeah Bump … it is probably the most underrated blown call in the history of football … it was completely friggin ridiculous … but never got that much ink
November 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I can’t even understand your nonsensical rant MR.
Fact: Al’s influence on Raider success is tied to his decision-making not his wardrobe. Deal with it.
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I agree with you. But that’s not what Gus said last night. If you could pay attention, you would know that I was making the same point you just did in response to his point that Al wins with his war like antics. Give me a break.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Nap was faster and stronger than cj. He was the strongest player on the roster. He was in muscle and fitness magazine where he benched 640 pounds, he weighed 185.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I agree Dave … neither one of the QBs is pro bowl material … let em both play … i dont’ care .. it’s not like we’re trying to decide between Stabler & Plunkett
November 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
So when the raiders win the AFC west who will be there first game against ?
November 12th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
yeah dave, i forgot how strong dude was … he was a beast
November 12th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
New england probably
November 12th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Raiders are winning, but Raider fans haven’t changed. The arrogance… I’m dreading the moment we’re eliminated from playoff contention or the playoffs themselves. My are we going to get it, thanks to fans like BumpNRun and Bo.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Obviously, its too early to tell.
November 12th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Yeah , Nap was a freak!
November 12th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
BumpNRun and Bo aren’t doing us any favors with their obnoxiousness. It won’t be forgotten by fans of other teams who read this blog when the Raiders are inevitably eliminated from contention (they’re not going to win the Super Bowl…), and they’re going to be crying the loudest when it’s time to pay the piper. “Leave Al alone”. “This is out best season in years”. Watch. There’s nothing wrong with being a Raider fan and humbling yourself, knowing we’re in an unique position and we should be grateful for it. They don’t understand that. They really think this is destiny. LOL.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
I remeber watching Nap at Lompoc High break this kids jaw on a stiff arm, funny as hell! Well not for db,lol!
November 12th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Raiders are winning, but Raider fans haven’t changed. The arrogance… I’m dreading the moment we’re eliminated from playoff contention or the playoffs themselves.
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If we the fans change, then ol’ A.D. will have to re-calibrate his marketing strategy, and re-position the brand image accordingly. Out with the eye-patch, Black Hole, silver and black, etc., and in with some kind of New And Improved, “consumer base” approved version.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Yeh, a kid’s jaw getting broken his hilarious, Dave. It was probably a penalty but since Kaufman was the best thing Lompoc’s had since the Hidalgo treaty, the refs looked the other way and some kid who worked his butt off and loved football could no longer play the game.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
BumpNRun, you’re neither funny or clever.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Na, he was playing again the next season. Nice try though.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
BumpNRun, you’re neither funny or clever.
That would be “funny nor clever.” Otherwise, you leave the door open for me being clever.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
You did a good job today, Bump. Baiting me and I took it. Gotta run. I don’t complain, though. I’ll be back, and I’ll step up my game. I’ll get you.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
MR, look up “apoplectic”. It suits you to a tee when the Raiders are competitive, Al Davis is clearly still a maverick, and the team is not self-destructing.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
LMAO!
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“ESPN, thanks but no thanks for all the praise. In honor of all this newly discovered Raider love please allow me to give you the one-finger salute on behalf of my Silver and Black brethren (here’s a clue – this finger isn’t proclaiming you as number one either). When things were bad it was fashionable to crack jokes non-stop and a mere three game win streak has all you Mickey Mouse journalists on the jock like a stripper during a slow song.”
http://justblogbaby.com/2010/11/11/espn-labels-raiders-as-%E2%80%98america%E2%80%99s-team%E2%80%99/
November 12th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Born with a Patch Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Just Fire, what you goin to LC for? I’m headin up to Duke City sunday
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Patch,
I got work to do down there and in El Paso. Will be there for the week.
You got a good green hook-up (or any one at all) let me know.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Mr and Bo arguing its like 2008 all over again
November 12th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
You got a good green hook-up (or any one at all) let me know.
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Ah, an environmentalist.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I’d rather they doubt us and talk sh;t clear up until we hoist the Lomardi.
November 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Oh, LMAO at Kell singing ‘Who Let the Dogs Out,’ by the way.
I alwyas told myself I could come up with at least one crappy song that would be played at sports venues ad nauseum for 20 years and get paid like a mofo.
Think Blur’s “Song 2″
November 12th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Why all the Raider jibjab on a Lakers blog?
November 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Check out the cool webcam:
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Go Gondos!
November 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Why the Raiders must beat Pitt to be legit…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives/exclusives_20
November 12th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
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November 12th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
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