Raiders’ concerns over the final seven
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 13th, 2010 at 12:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A few potential roadblocks as the Raiders attempt to make a run at the AFC West title and get back to the playoffs for the first time since 2002:
Injuries_The easiest and most obvious obstruction for any team. The last few times Al Davis made public appearances, he talked about injuries and their effect _ and thats when the Raiders weren’t nearly as good as they are now. It’s one of the first things brought up by Jason Campbell when asked about continued team success.
The Raiders beat the Chiefs in their pre-bye game without cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle sprain) and tight end Zach Miller (arch), who only happen to be their two most consistent players over the last four years on defense and offense.
The hope is both will be ready to face Pittsburgh, but we really don’t know for sure. When Cable went out of his way to talk up Brandon Myers and how well he played against his Chiefs, my first thought was, “Uh, oh. He’s laying the groundwork for the possibility that Miller could be out awhile.”
Could be I’m reading between the lines and seeing something that’s not there. In any event, foot injuries are tricky and there’s only one tight end on the roster unless Khalif Barnes is getting a uniform number in the 80s.
Another concern is the offensive line, center in particular. Cable says Samson Satele is on the mend, and the Raiders aren’t inclined to add another center at the present time. That means if Satele is hurt, then Jared Veldheer, who has shown great promise since taking over at left tackle, moves to center, and Mario Henderson is back at left tackle. It weakens two positions in a unit that has shown much progress over the past few weeks.
Penalties_ The Raiders lead the NFL with 91 penalties for 794 yards, a pace which would give them 161 penalties for 1,411 yards at the end of the season and erase the existing NFL records of 158 penalties for 1,304 yards _ both set by the Kansas City Chiefs in 1998.
If the Raiders lead the league in penalties, it will be the 16th time in franchise history _ tying the Chicago Bears for most times leading the league. The Bears led the league for the first time in 1941, the Raiders didn’t even exist until 1960.
History says they’re going to get their penalties. A good sign was overcoming 15 flags for 140 yards against the Chiefs, because history also says that good Raiders teams overcome penalties.
But the Raiders aren’t that good. It’s not the 1960s and 1970s when the talent disparity was huge. The occasional penalties of aggression can be lived with. But false starts, encroachment, lining up in the neutral zone, illegal formations and mental penalties need to be reduced if not eliminated.
At some point in a tight game, a third-and-2 that suddenly turns into a third-and-7 (or vice-versa for the defense) may be the difference between winning and losing.
Quarterback play_ Campbell has done some great things in terms of quarterback rating during the three-game win streak, but there’s a reason Cable waited until the most recent game to make the public statement that he would probably be going with the hot hand rather than switching back to Bruce Gradkowski.
He’s not completely sold on Campbell. Gradkowski, on the other hand, is the quarterback who saved his job last year.
I’m not sold on either quarterback being “the guy” for the future and chances are you’ll need both of them to get through the season. You’ll need Campbell because the last 11 times the Raiders have played, Gradkowski has made it start to finish twice and been knocked out of two other games. You’ll need Campbell because he can be a solid, methodical game manager who minimizes turnovers and can occasionally stick a difficult throw when it matters.
You’ll need Gradkowski (when healthy) because there might be days like against St. Louis in Week 2 where the Raiders need a spark they’re not getting from Campbell.
Take a look at the teams competing for AFC playoff spots and the quarterbacks involved, then insert where “Campkowski” fits in.
In no particular order, there’s Philip Rivers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger and probably Mark Sanchez who are better, and that’s without even bringing Matt Schaub and a fading Houston team into the equation.
Tennessee seems stuck between Vince Young and Kerry Collins, and the Chiefs have Matt Cassel, situations which Oakland may be able to claim superiority at the most important position on the field.
Wide receivers_At this point, anything you get from Chaz Schilens is a bonus, and even if he does return, the elephant in the room will remain Darrius Heyward-Bey until the Raiders get some consistent production that goes beyond running clear-out routes. He had a big game against Seattle, 5 catches for 105 yards and his first deep strike, a 69-yard touchdown. Heyward-Bey needs to have more of those days. As long as he is not, and Jacoby Ford is cooling his heels on the sidelines after the return of Louis Murphy, then it’s a problem.
It’s OK to be in a developmental mode playing out the string. It’s an issue when you’re trying to make the playoffs.
Sebastian Janikowski_ Cable noted that when Janikowski hit the 33-yard field goal that beat the Chiefs, it came from the same spot on the field as did the miss in Arizona (actually from 32 yards) that kept the Raiders from having a 6-3 record. It officially put the Arizona loss to bed.
Janikowski, however, has missed seven field goal attempts in nine games and is 22-for-29 at 76 percent. That’s No. 27 in the NFL. The most field goal attempts Janikowski has ever missed in a season is 10 (22-for-32 in 2000, 20-for-30 in 2005).
If the Raiders hope to make a playoff run, Janikowski’s percentage will need get near or over 90 percent for the last seven games and include some clutch, long-distance kicks, possibly in bad weather.
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November 13th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
In other words, everybody needs to step up and play!
November 13th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
If the Raiders don’t find themselves a big, veteran WR in free agency next season(Roy Williams if he gets cut, maybe Vincent Jackson, who knows), I hope they find a big-bodied guy in the draft who can be a consistent red zone threat on the outside. Chaz Schilens is the only play who seems to fit that role on the team currently, and he can’t stay healthy. The Raiders need to find someone who can draw coverage away from Zach Miller, Murphy, and Bey.
November 13th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
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November 13th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Jerry McD — Excellent job over the first half of the season…thanks for the hard work!
November 13th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
The Raiders need to find someone who can draw coverage away from Zach Miller, Murphy, and Bey.
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They allready have even though he is only 5′8″ he is up for the task…JFORD is easily the MOST dynamic WR on this team…HE needs to be on the field PERIOD…
November 13th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Quarterback play_ Campbell has done some great things in terms of quarterback rating during the three-game win streak, but there’s a reason Cable waited until the most recent game to make the public statement that he would probably be going with the hot hand rather than switching back to Bruce Gradkowski.
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Jerry, You’re such a shill. But, I guess you have to be.
What’s the Quid Pro Quo, Jerry?
November 13th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
repost
What’s starting to happen is all those receivers are being recognized as legitimate threats. Even DHB. Watch the attention Jacoby Ford starts getting now.
At some point during games, each of those guys is doubled or bracketed. DMcFadden and MBush, and especially MReece, have benefited greatly from the coverage being pulled to one side or another.
The guys you want, YA, are probably already on the team…and if we play well enough with them this year, adding other pieces that fit the team will be “easy.”
But, yes…I’m all for adding a big and physical WR…just not an older one with a sketchy record. Plax Burress may be one exception, but only if he’s had on the cheap w/ little risk. I say stay away from all the big-name WR’s @ the end of their careers…this team’s doing fine without their baggage.
November 13th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
This will be the toughest 7 games stretch of the season. We have the potential to come out of them 4-3. That might get us in the tournament. Go Raiders!
November 13th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
2 very important games this weekend….
KC vs Den for obvious reasons, tie for first in the div.
Pitt vs NE this game is important as you will see the blue print on how to beat the stillirs…
November 13th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
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November 13th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
But, yes…I’m all for adding a big and physical WR…just not an older one with a sketchy record. Plax Burress may be one exception, but only if he’s had on the cheap w/ little risk. I say stay away from all the big-name WR’s @ the end of their careers…this team’s doing fine without their baggage.
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great point see javon walker, who was a big name at the time however, due to injury at the end of his career…….
November 13th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Only way i see us getting a WR is if we cut the strings on Chaz…We have all the moving parts, to have a formidable WR corp…
November 13th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
They allready have even though he is only 5′8″ he is up for the task…JFORD is easily the MOST dynamic WR on this team…HE needs to be on the field PERIOD…
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Dude, I know you like Ford. I do, too. But I’m skeptical about him as a regular red zone threat. Doesn’t have the size to be an easy target when things get tight at the goal line.
Personally, I’d like to see Ford used as the big-play threat a la Steve Smith, with him moving to the slot in three-wide sets. Then the Raiders could have Murphy and another big man being the primary outside WRs.
I’m all for giving Heyward-Bey the change to develop, but when you have a good, young team who is already in position to compete for a playoff spot, you have to get the best players on the field. Right now Heyward-Bey is not one of those players, and it’s hard to see that happening by the end of the season.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Only way i see us getting a WR is if we cut the strings on Chaz…We have all the moving parts, to have a formidable WR corp…
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If he can’t stay healthy through training camp next season, he’ll be a camp casualty. He’s a 7th round pick so there’s no harm keeping him through then, but if he’s not going to contribute the team won’t hesitate to give him his walking papers.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
JFord has erupted onto the NFL scene…and he could easily make a name for himself in the ROY talk with a few more big games on a winning team.
The Raiders have a few players that will garner ROY talk, and a few more that will garner Pro Bowl talk if this keeps up.
How about NFL Exec Of The Year, COY, a ROY (or two!?), and maybe a Defensive POY and an Offensive POY (or MVP?!). As crazy as it seems, we actually have people in position to receive legitimate consideration for those individual awards.
But, we haven’t even shown we can play well for more than 3 games in a row yet. Big hills yet to climb!
November 13th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
What’s starting to happen is all those receivers are being recognized as legitimate threats. Even DHB. Watch the attention Jacoby Ford starts getting now.
At some point during games, each of those guys is doubled or bracketed. DMcFadden and MBush, and especially MReece, have benefited greatly from the coverage being pulled to one side or another.
The guys you want, YA, are probably already on the team…and if we play well enough with them this year, adding other pieces that fit the team will be “easy.”
But, yes…I’m all for adding a big and physical WR…just not an older one with a sketchy record. Plax Burress may be one exception, but only if he’s had on the cheap w/ little risk. I say stay away from all the big-name WR’s @ the end of their careers…this team’s doing fine without their baggage.
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As far as the older veterans, Roy Williams (again, assuming he gets cut, which seems somewhat probable) or Vincent Jackson are the only ones I would consider because they both have plenty of tread left on the tires. I’d actually be more skeptical about Burress, who was declining anyway and is now older and two years removed from the game.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
TJ and Previous Post 61:
You sound very ideal and accurate for the most part, but if I’m Pitts, my game plan revolves around Oaklands weak link, the QB position. You are right in your offensive planning, but can JC perform like that? He will be pressured, make no mistake about that. The Raiders last three wins were an entire, say it again, an entire team effort, and that is what it will take this time again. Tough for Pitt to have a sure fire game plan against our D, tho if Namndi isn’t healthy, I’m sure they will go there. I hope to no end we can move the chains, because if we can’t, our D will eventually tire and we are screwed. Not to start any petty squabling amongst out bretheren bloggers here, but Grads fits the role better because of his tempo and scrambling. Grads also will have a little more juice because he is in front of his home town. I wish JC did not stare down his recievers, but he does, and Tomlin knows this. Our sure fire would be to pound the ball with Bush and Reece, and dump or screen to McFadden for the yacs’. Throw a few deep, but pound it and dump it. If the Steelers can play off of Ford, we will be able to pick up 8-15 yards on the side.
But we seem to be getting pretty good at pressuring qb’s, so intensify that Mr. Marshall, has worked the last three games and against rivers, and we’ll be fine there. Pitt will know this, but cook there asses a bit and keep ben and the offensive team off the field.
It’s all coming together. I feel this game will be season defining, got a good feeling, and hope NE and Pittsburgh beat each other silly tomorrow, in 14.59 minutes of OT of course.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
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November 13th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
I think we have a chicken and the egg problem. WR play has been spotty at best this year. I think QB confidence has been greatly affected by this. QB play will reflect WR play and vice versa. The QB position needs stability in order develop chemistry with the receivers. Pick one QB and live with it!
November 13th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
If we see it, the big boys see it…
The Steelers already know that if they get JCampbell to move, he’s likely already missed the window to throw the ball on time. Fortunately for us, we’ve had success adjusting to the ball, and it’s saved JCampbell’s job for the moment…and more importantly, it’s saved our season for the moment.
Without a viable passing game, DMC & MBush will start suffering for it. If this team is to make a Playoff push (one game at a time, of course!), EVERYBODY must step-up their games…even the guys who are playing great already. The long grind is upon us…
November 13th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
JFB
Did you see that post last thread.
Is 90 a oz a good price?
November 13th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Roy Williams’ baby pout is as big as his talent. Wanted us to trade for him two years ago…don’t want to see it here now, he’s shown me enough.
A vet who carries himself like an adult, and is still playing his best football, is what I want. Not a 30+ year-old prima donna.
Better yet…give me the attitudes and attention and dedication we already have on the team, and watch our youngsters become stars.
We’ve got great young talent all over the field.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
No prima donnas at ANY age. Remember Randy Moss?
November 13th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Roy Williams is playing his best football in years right now. He also seems driven by proving people wrong. Dude doesn’t have to be a #1 WR. He probably wouldn’t even get the shot at being the #1 guy because Al wants to see DHB develop. But he can be a big body on the outside, and he has better hands than any of the other WRs on the team (except for maybe Ford, but Ford only has one game on his resume so I’m going to reserve my judgment about his hands).
I don’t know if he’s a prima donna or anything. At least I haven’t heard anything from him that makes me think that. I think Jerry Jones just gave up too much for him and overpaid him, expecting him to be the #1 guy.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
It’s a great Bye week to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
November 13th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
I’d love to see the Patriots soften up the Steelers for us a little more, that’s for sure.
I’d also really like to see Denver pull off the upset against KC.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I say cut Chaz. He’s just baggage on this team. He doesn’t want to be here and has made it obvious. Cut DHB, he’s a BUST anyway. He got those yards because they didn’t take him serious as a threat. I could’ve gotten those yards. Start Louis, and Jacoby and you have Miller doing his thing and Higgins could be used as a 3rd down guy kinda like how Dallas used to use Preston Pearson.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
# RAIDERindallas Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I say cut Chaz. He’s just baggage on this team. He doesn’t want to be here and has made it obvious. Cut DHB, he’s a BUST anyway. He got those yards because they didn’t take him serious as a threat. I could’ve gotten those yards. Start Louis, and Jacoby and you have Miller doing his thing and Higgins could be used as a 3rd down guy kinda like how Dallas used to use Preston Pearson.
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Why cut Chaz now? What purpose would that serve?
Higgins as a third down guy? He has to learn to consistently catch the ball in traffic, first.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
I was hoping we traded for Williams this pat summer. I think he’d be a perfect fit with our guys. I’d take him over Chaz without question.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Who knows, maybe Roy Williams could teach DHB to finally have some f**king confidence. A good WR has to WANT the ball to come to him in crucial situations. I don’t sense that at all coming from DHB.
I realize the kid can still be good, but the rest of the team has put the Raiders in position to potentially make the playoffs. It’s time for him to step up. They’re going to have to be firing on all cylinders if they want to make this happen.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
The REALLY exciting thing about this team is how young we are in so many key positions.
This team will be competitive for years to come.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Would you rather have Nnamdi or Mike Vick next year?
November 13th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
all,
I’m doing a quick survey on JC. There are 3 camps.
Jason is no good. (me, raiderdave…)
Jason needs to show me more (Armond?)
Jason is da man.(Mistic, Raiderdebo.Bauce, SnB?, Priest?)
Let me know which camp you are in. JC has taken up so much of our attention this year that I’d like to see where we are all at. Thanks and I will check back to see your responses.
November 13th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
No prima donnas at ANY age. Remember Randy Moss?
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It’s funny how some of you were crying for a veteran WR to come here. Even at the expense of developing the younger players. Well, Randy Moss is on his 3rd team THIS YEAR! Terrell Owens has blossomed and he and Antonio Bryant have the Cinncy Bungholes playing all of .250 ball. The Tampon Bay Bucs got rid of Antonio Bryant and they are 5-3. Of course Shi**sbrugh got rid of Santonio Holmes and they seem to be fine. Last time I looked Brandon Marshall has got the Miami Dolphins all the way up to 4-4. The only team that seems to have benefited from a marquee WR signing is Baltimore. And they lost 2 nights ago.
Frankly, I like the development of Murphy and now JFord has bolted literally off the page. Schilens is a very nice player if he can somehow stay healthy, and the jury is still out on DHB, altho he is improving.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Nnamdi. I’m not convinced Vick can do here what he’s doing in Philly.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
AIG – I’m in none of those camps. I don’t see it like that at all.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
YC,
It’s surprising to see you’re not in the JC is the man camp considering you’ve gone at length to debate JC’s achievements on here. Quite interesting indeed.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Jery Mac is the BEST.
Again Jerry, damb lucky to have you. Enjoy the bye week!
November 13th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
31.J Hill Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
The REALLY exciting thing about this team is how young we are in so many key positions.
This team will be competitive for years to come.
This is nice to think about. Seymour has a lot to do with the attitude. Young men feel “accountable” to the team because of the mentality in the locker room. You dont want to let people down when they show the passion of men like Richard.
We are also building some depth. Last years draft may turn out the be the best ever.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I’m in none of those camps. I don’t see it like that at all.
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Agreed.
da man? Not at all.
Starting QB of OUR team? Yes, so I’ll support him and hope for wins each week. Nothing more, nothing less.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Seymour has a lot to do with the attitude.
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Absolutely.
The leader of this team is the defense. As the front 7 continues to improve, so will this team.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
YC,
It’s surprising to see you’re not in the JC is the man camp considering you’ve gone at length to debate JC’s achievements on here. Quite interesting indeed.
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Reading comprehension obviously isn’t your strong suit.
Listen, you’ve exposed yourself as a turncoat who only cares if the team wins your way. And that’s okay. Do your thing. But hell if I’m going to get baited into one of your ridiculous JC v.s. Grads trolljobs.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
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# J Hill Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I’m in none of those camps. I don’t see it like that at all.
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Agreed.
da man? Not at all.
Starting QB of OUR team? Yes, so I’ll support him and hope for wins each week. Nothing more, nothing less.
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There’s the truth.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
127.imaquaman Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
# Born with a Patch Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:44 am
imaquaman, do you live in Denver?
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no im in california,about 2 hrs north of los angelas.and im a raider fan win ,lose or tie until i die
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I met a Raider fan who was dating a Filly fan, and not Philly, at the game in denver. thought you might have been that guy. we had the same conversation about what to do. i say you lay it on hard and go for the conversion!! Everybody can make a difference, one less bronc fan and the world is a better place! God Speed
November 13th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
77.BigTed707 Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 7:51 am
What up Raider Nation?
Have a great weekend, and Go Donkeys!
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Go to HEl! Donkeys!!!!
November 13th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I like the kid from Boise, Austin Pettis, saw him play and he fits the bill. Big boy with great hands. And, most importantly, Tim Brown was impressed with him. He was talking him up while commentating on ESPN
November 13th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Would you rather have Nnamdi or Mike Vick next year?
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As great as Nnamdi is, we need Vick’s abilities more. So my answer is Welcome Aboard Michael Vick. Good luck Nnamdi & thanks for your service.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Vick said it himself, he’s too reckless. he’s much much improved but he still takes unnecessary hits. until he learns to stay in the pocket or slide, i dont want him, not in favor of Nnamdi. He is an upgrade over JCamp but only when he’s healthy
November 13th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Just Produce Baby!
No more talk about “momentum”, “potential” “juice”, “moxy”, “chance’, “luck”, or “needs more time”
Just play the players that are winning games…making catches, completing passes, finishing blocks, executing tackles, getting deflections, and gaining yards.
No more of this emotion, potential and all other INTANGIBLE stuff.
Just produce and win games.
If the Raiders stay focused on that in the 2nd half….they will be wildly successfull.
If they go back to playing favorites, draft status, saved my job, and all that stuff.
We will all be disappointed
November 13th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
No way I would get rid of nam…would be like getting rid of charles woodson, we all know how that turned out…
November 13th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
aig-put me in the “needs to show me more” group
November 13th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Part of the reason this team is more successfull is because guys that were sentimental favorites but didn’t produce a damn thing are no longer taking reps from those that do produce
November 13th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Snb, on point as usual… Keep your best playmakers on the field, even if it means sitting DHB
November 13th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
You bring in Michael Vick provided he produces like he has for the rest of the season.
Vick easily beats our two QBs
November 13th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Don’t put me in any group. Its all about wins and losses.. We
November 13th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Tell Tom Cable to get a backup Center.
Moving Veldheer to Center just creates a big hole at Left Tackle…the most important position.
Get Jake Grove in here for vet minimum and cut the 4th string running back…..or put Schilens on IR
Veldheer is a left tackle that gives the passing game a chance to succeed.
Mario can’t do it.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Don’t put me in any group. Its all about wins and losses..
November 13th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
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# Born with a Patch Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
I like the kid from Boise, Austin Pettis, saw him play and he fits the bill. Big boy with great hands. And, most importantly, Tim Brown was impressed with him. He was talking him up while commentating on ESPN
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Likewise, I was impressed with the little I’ve seen from him.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I was listening to one of the programs on Sirius Radio…the host said that by the halfway point in the season there are no more rookies.
The players on the field have to seize their opportunity and start playing.
This Raider team is actually pretty decent and could sneak into the playoffs.
All hands on deck man….no more developmental mode…that’s for teams NOT in the playoff hunt.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
All hands on deck man….no more developmental mode…that’s for teams NOT in the playoff hunt.
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Word. I’d love to have more patience for DHB, but by no means should he be getting reps over Ford and Murphy at this point.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
I loved havin Charles on our team but his play seemed to slip a bit. he had some nagging injuries. now that he’s healthy, defensive player of the year last season! imagine him and Nnam on the field together?!
November 13th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Team needs:
C
WR
CB/FS
OG/OT
November 13th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Agreed! Everyone has to step up and play! This is the second half and most important half of the season! 4-4 first half, and so far, 1-0 in the second…gotta keep that up!!!
November 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
I watched the game against KC again, and DHB does draw alot of double teams and even some triple in the first half. I think they keyed in on him being that Murph and Miller were out. They were scared of him in open field after the SeaChicks game… But good receivers get open even when they draw 2 defenders
November 13th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Also,
The Raiders will NOT be sneaking up on anybody. You think the Steelers and Dolphins are going to be thinking same ole’ Raiders….hell no
I kinda hope the Steelers win tomorrow. Sets up another iconic type of old time AFC game.
That’s what the league is supposed to be about.
The Raiders need to go into these games understanding that they are going to be getting their opponents best.
Just watch the media coverage for next weeks game.
How many clips of the “Holy Roller” or Atkinson and Lynn Swann….man!
So tell Cable, Jackson, Davis and Marshall to go in with the best players that are winning games into these games because they are going to need the BEST going forward
November 13th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
“Not Holy Roller” “Immaculate Reception”
Holy Roller will be in two weeks.
Man…the Raiders have some history
November 13th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
62.YoungAmerican Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Team needs:
C
WR
CB/FS
OG/OT
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I like our young CBs and i think Stevie Brown is going to be a great FS
November 13th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
The 2010 Steelers are allowing 2.64 pards per carry. The 2000 Baltimore Ravens hold the super bowl era record at 2.69
November 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
“attempt to make a run at the AFC West title”
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They had better be making the run at it, not just attempting a run at it!!!
Sorry Jerry, just nitpicking over grammar. I’m EXTREMELY upset about my Texas Tech team right now.
I’m glad Oakland has given me a reason to care about football in November. Jesus. If this were like past Raiders seasons, I’d be almost suicidal right about now given what’s going on with the Red Raiders.
Week 11/Pittsburgh can’t come soon enough. I’m so desperate for more Raiders football, I just subscribed to NFL Rewind. I watched the entire KC game again earlier today. Probably going to watch the Mile High Massacre again tomorrow.
Just win, baby!!!
November 13th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I like our young CBs and i think Stevie Brown is going to be a great FS
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A great FS might be a stretch. I’m not ready to anoint him as “great” yet.
I only say CB and FS because there’s a good chance that either Routt or Huff will walk after this season, and I’m not entirely sure that Ware, McFadden, or Brown are ready to take over as starters. Especially if Chris Johnson’s play declines at all, since he’s not getting any younger.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
The Steelers line up so many different ways defensively, you have to get the blocking assignments correct…..Polamahu & Harrison have to be blocked!……….and if they stop the running game……oooooh boy.
November 13th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
YA, good point, i think we keep huff or routt. Stevie Brown has made some good plays with limited playing time. can’t wait to see what he does once he gets more involved, no rush though, we need huff on the field.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
The chances that the Raiders keep both Routt and Huff are getting better every game, I’ll say that much. If they finish strong, this team is definitely going to have some decisions to make in free agency.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
47.JB Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Would you rather have Nnamdi or Mike Vick next year?
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As great as Nnamdi is, we need Vick’s abilities more. So my answer is Welcome Aboard Michael Vick. Good luck Nnamdi & thanks for your service.
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Coulda had Vick.
Vick = Campbell + mobility – deep throw accuracy = desision making = defense reading. this will NOT be a big enough up-grade. We NEED better.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
73.YoungAmerican Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
The chances that the Raiders keep both Routt and Huff are getting better every game, I’ll say that much. If they finish strong, this team is definitely going to have some decisions to make in free agency.
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Who knows, we might not even have football next season. We need that CBA!!
November 13th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
I hope Cam Newton is guilty. I’m already tired of seeing him mug for the camera after every play. He’s more annoying than Tebow.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
TCU and Auburn struggled a bit today, hopefully Boise can gain ground in the BCS hunt.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Boise’s only hope is if Auburn loses to Alabama and Oregon loses to Oregon State.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Wow UTEP up on Ark! I’m sure Johnnie lee and Howard are gonna give DMAC some heat for it
November 13th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Why would anyone start DHB over Jacoby Ford?
November 13th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Tigers new 50 million dollar crib
http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Check-out-Tiger-Woods-sparkly-new-50-million-b?urn=golf-285233
November 13th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Jerry I disagre with you on Flacco and mark Sanchez being better than either Campbell or Gradkowski. I don’t think muc of either of those guy’s who play on great teams which save them a lot more often than anyone wants to admit. Sanchez is a mediocre QB and Flacco isn’t much better.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
78.A.B. Paine III Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Boise’s only hope is if Auburn loses to Alabama and Oregon loses to Oregon State.
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Oregon State lost to WSU, so that looks doubtful. Gotta hope Cal beats Oregon tonight, right now, 7-0 Cal.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Jerry, you wrote the following…..
Quarterback play_ ……You’ll need Campbell because he can be a solid, methodical game manager who minimizes turnovers and can occasionally stick a difficult throw when it matters.
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I beg to differ. I went and compiled some numbers. It just doesnt seem to jive with your conclusion.
1. JC ranks 26th for passes over 20+ yds. That means his deep pass is irrelevant.
2. JC ranks DEAD LAST in the the top 30 QB’s in the league for pass attempts per int/fumble.
For every 14.25 pass attempts, JC suffers either 1 int or fumble. The top in the league is Mike Vick at 62.5 attempts for every fum/int. The 15th guy has a 24.46 attempts per int/fum.
If you need me to validate your assumptions, Just ask. You’re welcome. 2 more myths debunked!
November 13th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Aig, where do you look at these stats?
November 13th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
AIG you’re insufferable dude, you are really sick. JC is the starter man and hating aint gonna change it.
Let the coaches coach dude Gradkowski may have another chance then you can pleasure yourself again as you watch him play.
Your stupid what camp are you in list is very immature. Just say I love Grads with all my heart and be done with it. WE get it already!!!
November 13th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
100
nfl.com. they give you a listing of all QB’s and their att and int. But you have to go to each qb to find their fumb for for the season.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Priest,
JC is a fraud and I intend to debunk all the myths that the media has for him. When JC is not a fraud, I will say he is not. Until then, I will show that he is a fraud for every mythg you and the media have for him.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
and one more thing Priest…Truth hurts.
Sapp used to say stats are for losers…he forgot that he once wanted to get the sack record and stated so publicly. I guess stats is only for losers when it VERIFIES you are a loser.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Aig, Priest can’t evaluate QBs. He thinks Vick is better than Elway. As for you, you want to see the Raiders get killed by the Steelers. Neither of you have any credibility anymore.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
AIG what you seem to to think is we give a damn. Whatever you think and want to do is fine man. He’s a fraud so what he also starts……………suck on that!!!
Keep beating the drum dumbell you’re just boring everyone with it. THey have their opinions and you have yours and if you think you’ll change anyones opinion your naive. JC has to play that will either change or confirm their opinions. YOU ARE A BORE!!!…………..period
November 13th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Paine in the ass III
That must really bother you doesn’t it? the way Vick is playing at a level Elway has never done. NEVER…..they’re calling Vick the best QB in the NFL right now. Must Paine you very much huh? Some people can’t handle the truth…
November 13th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
AIG, the only fraud is you. You’re pretending to be a Raiders fan while rooting for Jason Campbell to fail.
Campbell has been far from perfect in his career, I don’t think anyone here is denying that. But right now he has the hot hand, and has played well enough for the Raiders to win three straight games. Because of that he will start for the Raiders.
When his hand cools down, Gradkowski is next in line. I can accept that. That’s just the way it is. You, on the other hand, are actively hoping that Campbell isn’t successful so that if the Raiders win, they only do it your way. You’re a petulant little child.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Priest, your just as bad as Aig. Vick is not the best QB in the league. When he wins a couple Super Bowls, then we can consider it.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
AB,
I understand you’re dumba$$ but I’ll try to respond.
I actually predicted we’d win against the Eagles last year. Why? Because we got embarrassed in NY and Pierce said some stuff that challenged the Raiders manhood. So I predicted the RAiders would come out extra motivated on the D which they did and basically won the game.
This year, the Steelers will not over look us like they did last year. Plus they will be extra motivated for revenge after we embarrassed their defense last year. On top of that, you got the worst turnover machine in the league as our starting QB goign against the league’s top D.
So if you think the odds are in our favor, go ahead and thump your chest a few more times. I’ll go ahead and prepare myself mentally for a probable loss. Just dont come on here crying after the game if we lose ok. I’ll be fine and I’ll be looking forward to your comments after the game.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
There is a big diff between rooting and knowing. I dont root. I know he is going to fail. That is why I’m willing to give you guys a 3-1 odds on my previous wager that a healthy JC will get yanked again this year and it may come as early as next week. I noticed none of you pros dared to take the challenge.
I understand you have a hard time deciphering the truth.
November 13th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
It’s entirely possible he’ll get yanked again. No one is saying he won’t. No one is saying he’s the long-term answer. But he’s the Raiders starting quarterback. The Raiders have won three straight with him at the helm. That is the reality. You can either choose to live in reality, or you can moan like a little p***y until you get your way.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
YoungAmerican,
I did find this post that I had prior to game this year against Denver. As much as I can’t stand JC, does it look like I was rooting for JC to fail?
aig-raiders Says:
October 24th, 2010 at 10:42 am
nnamdi,
well let’s hope spec team and D just hold their end of the bargain. We can then root for JaPuke to have a career day.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Aig, I don’t think the odds are in our favor. In fact, I will be surprised if the Raiders win against the Steelers. However, if they lose, it probably won’t be Campbell’s fault. A lack of WR production, a hostile environment, a good Steelers team, and Roethlisberger will most likely be the reason they lose.
By the way, before you call someone a dumb ass, proofread your post. Your bad grammar makes you look ignorant.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
JaPuke? What’s funny is that you think s**t like that is clever.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
It’s unfortunate that the trolls take this place over at times. Good discussion about football can happen here sometimes, but other times this place is intolerable.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
There is a big diff between rooting and knowing. I dont root. I know he is going to fail. That is why I’m willing to give you guys a 3-1 odds on my previous wager that a healthy JC will get yanked again this year and it may come as early as next week. I noticed none of you pros dared to take the challenge.
I understand you have a hard time deciphering the truth.
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You are quickly becoming the joke of this blog.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
AB,
I am sure we can both agree that any given Sunday is possible for any game. However, you dont think the Raiders will win either but you get on my a$$ for the same thing? the only thing we differ on is who is going to be the goat. But you get on my a$$ for this? Questioning my Raider faith? Yes the Raiders are my religion and Al Davis is God. I happen to be an atheist so it fits just fine.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
How about a good discussion that shows the stats and track record do not support Jerry’s assumptions? That’s called an intelligent discussion with supporting evidence. You guys just dont like it because it’s not the answer you are looking for.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Aig, I am just being realistic. The odds of the Raiders winning 4 in a row, on the road against the Steelers, are low. But, I am not hoping that Campbell has a terrible game. There is a difference. You want failure in order to prove to everyone that you are correct.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
How about a good discussion that shows the stats and track record do not support Jerry’s assumptions? That’s called an intelligent discussion with supporting evidence. You guys just dont like it because it’s not the answer you are looking for.
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If you want to talk about stats, I already proved to you the other day that Campbell has better career stats than Jim Plunkett. Do you think Plunkett sucked too?
November 13th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
How about a good discussion that shows the stats and track record do not support Jerry’s assumptions? That’s called an intelligent discussion with supporting evidence. You guys just dont like it because it’s not the answer you are looking for.
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AIG, regardless of the stats, Campbell is the starter.
The idea behind bringing him to the Raiders was that it would allow him to revive his career, which hadn’t gone well. High turnover with offensive coordinators, along with inept coaching (Jim Zorn in particular) had a big role in that. Jason Campbell had also played far too conservatively, and didn’t show that he could consistently look downfield to make plays. He also had a pretty poor supporting cast.
It’s looking like he’s improving and playing better in this system, with the help of Hue Jackson and timely plays by the guys around him. Maybe Campbell’s play regresses, maybe it doesn’t. The bottom line is that the Raiders have been more successful than they have been in years, in large part because of the way Campbell has played for the last three games. He has earned at least one more start.
Cable has shown before that he won’t hesitate to pull his starting QB if he isn’t playing well. Both Gradkowski and Campbell know this. Neither of these guys is likely a long-term answer for the quarterback position. Going forward this season, the Raiders will probably need both of them. That’s the reality. This season there is no other option.
Now that’s as much time as I’ll take to reply to a troll like you. You know where I stand (at least I hope you do, because while I’ve explained this same thing to you numerous time you still seem to think I’m under the impression that JC stands for Jesus Christ). I’m not going to waste any more time on someone who is too immature to accept it when “his team” doesn’t win the way he wants them to.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Born with a Patch Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
I watched the game against KC again, and DHB does draw alot of double teams and even some triple in the first half. I think they keyed in on him being that Murph and Miller were out. They were scared of him in open field after the SeaChicks game… But good receivers get open even when they draw 2 defenders
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At least somebody is actually paying attention to the game and not looking up stats and making snap judgements viewed from the prism of fantasy football.
Sure, DHB needs to produce more on the field in terms of catches. I wholeheartedly agree. But to be productive you have to get your number called and/or the QB has to throw the ball where you have a chance of catching it. Its that simple. If Hue wants to, if feels as if he must, get this guy going then he has to call his number more often.
Vs the Chiefs, DHB’s number was called but the balls were terrible! If you think otherwise, I suggest you hit replay.
One game and you all are crowning Ford one game after DHB had a “breakout” – and you were signing his praises then.
You people are so fickle is absurd. All you do is come on here and complain about players when its some said player you have this ridiculous grudge about maybe because he is not the player you wanted in the draft – so nothing he does is good enough. Grow up.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Young American,
I saw that you said he is improving. I beg to differ. What you guys see as 3 great wins and I enjoyed the ride but I see the wins from a different perspective than you.
1. vs Den – JC had a pep talk from Hue prior to the game to pump him up.
2. vs Sea – after the Game, JC said that the first half is just one of those halves … this is in response to why they struggled in the first half.
3. vs KC – after the game, he said it’s just one of those games…in regards to why the offense struggled.
What I see is very consistent and a trend downward. So I know in my heart a perfect storm is coming. You got a qb struggling against the league’s top D with an extra motivation for revenge. Anyone with a common sense would think JC will struggle but you guys let the 3 game win streak blinds you.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
105.A.B. Paine III Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Aig, I am just being realistic. The odds of the Raiders winning 4 in a row, on the road against the Steelers, are low. But, I am not hoping that Campbell has a terrible game. There is a difference. You want failure in order to prove to everyone that you are correct.
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I don’t think AIG wants failure Mr. Paine. I believe
he loves his Raiders so much he cannot stand to see the ineptness the current qb position is saddled with. JaR was a horror story for the Raiders the last couple of years and some folks see likenesses between the two (JC). I’ve already stated I thinks Grads gives a better oppotunity to win, but regardless, if JC starts, our odds of loosing increase. If we are going to win, and I know we will, D and ST will do it. All anyone has to is watch the KC game. We never ever should have been that close with them. If we have 3 and outs, we will struggle. AIG is passionate about his Raiders like us all and I can see where he is coming from.
BTW (14:37 3rd qtr).Oregon 15 Cal 7.
Now that sucks ass.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Aig,
Give me Bruce Gradkowski’s statistics adn what in his numbers suggests that he’s a far better option than JC.
We all know that JC has flaws and I doubt anyone would be shocked if he got pulled again.
I just want to know where the CERTAINTY is that Gradkowski is the answer.
He’s been just as unremarkable if you ask me.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Aig, I don’t think the odds are in our favor. In fact, I will be surprised if the Raiders win against the Steelers. However, if they lose, it probably won’t be Campbell’s fault. A lack of WR production, a hostile environment, a good Steelers team, and Roethlisberger will most likely be the reason they lose.
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“Lack of WR production”? Cleary THAT is in the eyes of the beholder. Did you not witness the absolutely improved production of our WR corp, particularly DHB, when Grads took over for Campbell? That improvement in our WR corp was clearer than a Montana sky.
I’m not saying Grads should start from here. I think I’ve made my point clear before (i.e. Grads may have the edge on Campbell, but Campbell has earned the opportunity to continue and hopefulley continue imiproving). But to deny the difference is just ignoring reality and living in some kooked up fantasy land.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
I don’t have a grudge, and I hate the fact that DHB sucks. But what are you gonna do? the kid just does not produce.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
AB,
Plunkett was never surrounded by probowlers at NE and SF and he went to the Raiders “sitting on the bench for 2 years”. Plunkett was surrounded a bunch of HOF’s with the Raiders. Theres’ a reason why he’s not in the HOF although he won 2 SB’s.
JC was surrounded by probowlers on offense in 2008. 4 guys on the offense made probowls 2008 and 1 of them was all-pro. JC this year is playing even worst than JC of 2009. So imo he is what he is.
As for rooting JC to fail, I already proved to you that I never root for him to fail. I always root for him to have a career day when he starts for us because I think he sucks to begin with. Therefore you need a good JC day to not lose the game for us unless other players around him have career days.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I could understand wanting JC benched badly if we had a sure talent like Rivers, Brady, Schaub, Manning (2), Rogers, Ryan, Flacco etc….
Or if we had a promising youngster like Freeman or Bradford.
This faith in Gradkowski is bordering on fanatical
November 13th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
The one play in particular where the ball sailed right over his hands was painful, but DHB also had one drop that would have been a sure touchdown. Those are plays that a #1 receiver needs to make.
When you have two 4th round picks outperforming you, something is wrong. Especially when one of them gets more yards in a single game (after only seeing action in a few games) than the #1 guy gets in 11 games.
Kid might be good eventually. Might even have a long career ahead of him. But he needs to make more plays if he intends on helping his team reach the playoffs.
Honestly, I just hope Campbell or Grads keep throwing the ball DHB’s way at least a few times a game. Opposing teams have to believe the ball is going to come his way eventually.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
DHBs signature play is the “immaculate knee” pass to Bush.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
As for DHB, if the coaches like his play…then so be it.
But remember, no wide receiver ever made the pro-bowl or hall of fame on just clearing out the middle.
Gotta produce too!
November 13th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
SnB,
I didnt start today’s conversation with “bruce vs JC”. I started the conversation with Jerry’s assumption of JC as a good game manager with deep ball and low turnovers. I think I debunked that.
However, if you insist. Bruce and JC played in the same game vs STL. After the game, you dumped JC and jumped on Bruce’s bandwagon. That is good enough for me. I’ll use your own judgements to defend my position. Fair enough.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
If we disected gradkowski handful of starts going back to last year, we would see an equal amount of issues of concern
November 13th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
At this moment, I dont even care about Bruce Starting but I know he will start sooner than later. I wanted Boller to start over JC in Denver and my position has not changed. That’s how far JC has fallen for me.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Bruce is every bit a part of this conversation because he’s the next guy up…assuming Boller is just here to fill a uniform.
Aig, you may be right in your assessment of JC….but what is your view on Gradkowski (just him, not in the prism of the JC debate).
What kind of QB is this guy?
I see him as just another guy on the field…a journeyman.
What do you see him as?
November 13th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
SnB,
So go ahead and dissect it. Dont talk. Show me. Show me how games are affected. Break it down for me. Dont give me this crap of 50k foot level view. Break it down for me at the ground level. That’s your problem. You never take the effort to understand why a team wins and why it loses. That is why you were wrong on McNabb and JC and I was right on both of them.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
JC may be a good game manager but he does not have a good deep ball. Remeber the flea flicker vs KC. Ford was wide open, and JC underthrew him pathetically. Ditto on the 4th qrt play when Ford stole the int from the corners hands. JC has plenty of good things, yet the deep ball is not one of them.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
I think we’ve got two flawed QBs on the roster.
I see them all as just about even.
I don’t love or hate any of them.
They are just unremarkable guys trying to figure it out.
I don’t think any of them would be starting in this league anywhere else…
November 13th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Gotta run. I’ll check back later to your rebuttals. It’s all good.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Just cause DHB was a #1 doesn’t mean he is our #1 receiver. But the powers that be do, so we can’t do much about that.
But the “immaculate knee” is fkng funny!
November 13th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
I don’t have a grudge, and I hate the fact that DHB sucks. But what are you gonna do? the kid just does not produce.
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Riddle me this ….how “productive” do you think you will be if you don’t get you number called? If when you number is called the ball is either overthrown by yards, underthrown by yards, or flat out a bad throw? If you are constantly doubled or even tripled some times – sht even OchoCinco was complaining about being double last week (I don’t watch Cincy games so I can back that up but just pointing it out).
Yes, he must become a better player. He must become more productive; but this is no different from Murphy, JLH or Ford.
I’m not sure why Hue does it; maybe its just by the offense’s design but when Murphy sits they still barely call the plays for DHB but instead call Ford or JLHs number and use DHB to clear out and force single coverage on them.
Eventually, DHB will get his opportunities. I just hope he capitalizes. If watching these games has shown me anything its that he is a very dangerous player.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Many or Margarito?
November 13th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Aig,
We’ve been disecting everything but the bottom line around here.
People fall in love or in hate with players with absolutely no regard for the bottom line.
We WASTED carries with Justin Fargas because he was such a “fighter”
Cable had his judgement questioned with Kwame Harris.
Or rolling with Ronald Curry too long…Terdell Sands….and others.
I don’t break things down because I am too simple of a man.
All I see is wins / losses and stats.
That’s all I care about.
I don’t care if they win EVERY game with luck.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
JC was surrounded by probowlers on offense in 2008. 4 guys on the offense made probowls 2008 and 1 of them was all-pro. JC this year is playing even worst than JC of 2009. So imo he is what he is.
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Aig, this is the weakest part of your argument. The Redskins, Raiders, and now the Cowboys, have proved that having Pro Bowlers does equate to winning. If you say the Redskins lost because of Campbell, you have to say the Cowboys are losing because of Romo.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
*does not equate to winning
November 13th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I don’t know, SnB. Bruce can get some things done, too. I like that he takes more chances than Campbell, especially when it comes to forcing the ball to wide receivers. Might bite him in the a** occasionally, but he can be effective.
At the same time, his injury history is concerning and he can’t make some of the throws JC can. He is also prone to force the ball into impossible situations just like Campbell.
Really, they both have plenty of upside and plenty of downside. I hope either one of them starts dramatically improving, or the Raiders can find a guy in the draft they like enough to start grooming to be “the guy”.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
But I will check in on people who are just cerain Gradkowski is the man.
When you are a 50% passer with a losing record….you are no certainty.
That’s my only issue.
I don’t dream…and I don’t believe in fairy tales.
Prove on the field with production.
No team would tolerate a 50% passer at the helm…if they had a choice.
Same with Campbell, he’s been unsteady and prone to slow starts.
Both of these guys are fighting to stay in the league right now.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Hey Terrapin. I hope DHB turns into Jerry Rice. Yet, right now, he must be the most unproductive WR in the league in terms of catches, yards, and TDs vs plays. So dont tell me the poor kid needs more opportunities:hes in there 90% of the time and he does not produce.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I don’t know, SnB. Bruce can get some things done, too. I like that he takes more chances than Campbell, especially when it comes to forcing the ball to wide receivers. Might bite him in the a** occasionally, but he can be effective.
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What has he accomplished other than being the anti-JaDavis?
If we set here and nitpick these games….that Steeler game LAST YEAR was a dud until the 4th QTR…and then there were a couple of dropped picks….just like JC had against KC.
The Cincy game was a decent game…hardly dominate.
The St. Louis, Arizona and Houston games left points on the board and Gradkowski had very, very pedestrian numbers….not too mention a 1-2 record.
I am not hating. But I gotta check the “hope and dream” stuff.
Show me by putting up good decent QB numbers! And we know what they look like.
I am not big on intangibles…except those related to off-field preparation.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
No one knows what DHB will turn out like.
But he’s gotta start catching balls and getting yards. Period.
The Raiders will not be successfull going forward without him!
November 13th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
The one play in particular where the ball sailed right over his hands was painful, but DHB also had one drop that would have been a sure touchdown. Those are plays that a #1 receiver needs to make.
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All jokes aside I’m willing to bet Murphy has just as many if not more drops than DHB this season. And I’m counting drops as balls that were right in the bread basket – not some immaculate catch (i.e. bad throw made good). Sht, Ford had like 2 drops vs KC and you are complaining about DHBs one! Sounds just a tad hypocritical. I’ll only grant you the yards Ford gained when the horn sounded to compensate for them.
Even the best WRs in the game – your #1s – have drops. Moss drops the ball. Owens drops the ball. Smith drops the ball. Not trying to give them an excuse but these people are not perfect.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
What’s going on right now in the OR game? Ducks need to score some points fast!
November 13th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Believe me, SnB. I agree, both of these guys put up pretty pedestrian numbers. But like you said, all that matters is the win. Bruce has won. Campbell has won. Both of them have also lost, and their own play was a big factor in those losses.
Neither of these guys has played consistently. They either need to improve their play dramatically to prove that either one of them could be the long-term option, or the Raiders need to find a project QB who can sit on the sidelines and learn the game for a season or two. Then they can take the helm from Campbell or Grads.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Hey Terrapin. I hope DHB turns into Jerry Rice. Yet, right now, he must be the most unproductive WR in the league in terms of catches, yards, and TDs vs plays. So dont tell me the poor kid needs more opportunities:hes in there 90% of the time and he does not produce.
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The most unproductive WR in teh league? Far from true. But I’m not going to hold that statement against you. You are just trying to make a point. But try to be more careful with the absolutes.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Where’s Mr. Paine?
Oregon 15
Cal 13
9:10 3rd qtr.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
I’m here. Go Cal!
November 13th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
AB,
The Cowboys had a bunch of probowlers last year and they had a winning record and an appearance in the playoff. JC led his team to 17 points per game, 8-8 record the same year he had all those guys making the probowls.
How many guys on the Cowboys are going to make probowls this year? So my argument is legit and consistent. Yours is not.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
DHB will be a great receiver when he is 100% hands and dumps the basket catches.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
All WRs in the league “basket catch” …when I hear that as an argument I almost want to laugh.
Now a better point would be that he doesn’t appear to be as smooth catching the ball as he tends to leave his feet often.
But thats an improvement over last year – at least he is catching them
November 13th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
YoungAmerican,
The Raiders should have kept the kid Brennan from Hawaii as the 3rd string developmental guy.
They definitely need a QB that can be groomed by Hue Jackson.
JC and GRadkowski are fighting to stay relevant…and maybe in the league.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
All jokes aside I’m willing to bet Murphy has just as many if not more drops than DHB this season. And I’m counting drops as balls that were right in the bread basket – not some immaculate catch (i.e. bad throw made good). Sht, Ford had like 2 drops vs KC and you are complaining about DHBs one! Sounds just a tad hypocritical. I’ll only grant you the yards Ford gained when the horn sounded to compensate for them.
Even the best WRs in the game – your #1s – have drops. Moss drops the ball. Owens drops the ball. Smith drops the ball. Not trying to give them an excuse but these people are not perfect.
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But I don’t think either Murphy or Ford are true #1 options. Even then, a 4th rounder is bound to drop a few here and there. Murphy’s drops tend to be egregious, and are what has kept him from becoming the clear #1 receiver for the Raiders.
A high first-round pick should definitely be a little more polished. And for every ball that Ford dropped against KC, he had two big-time catches. There is no sign that the drops are going to be a continuous problem for him. DHB has seen the field a whole lot more than Ford, and hasn’t shown the ability to come back from a drop and make a huge play. Simply put, right now he’s not the clutch player the Raiders need.
True #1 receivers make plays when their team needs them to make plays. Sure, they might make drops. But they also come through. DHB needs to start coming through.
This is why I want to see a veteran come in. There needs to be a more consistent receiving option for the Raider QBs. Having a proven vet across the field will open things up for DHB, as well as Murphy and Ford.
November 13th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Terripin,
DHB just has to make catches and this talk goes away. No one really cares about drops if there are more catches.
DHB has to produce. The coaches still believe in him and I have no problem with him playing.
But he’s gotta fight more and do more in the production department
November 13th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
AIG, for the 1st time in may years, maybe ever, I’ve gone beyond looking at the qb position primarily, and now look at the D, STs, Reece, Bush and McD, and look for the battle there. Seymour, STs and our running backs are the leaders right now. They know they are the ones that have to do their jobs, and they are doing it. Total confidence in the D and STs. And if JC does start and struggles, Cable won’t wait around to yank him.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
YoungAmerican,
The Raiders should have kept the kid Brennan from Hawaii as the 3rd string developmental guy.
They definitely need a QB that can be groomed by Hue Jackson.
JC and GRadkowski are fighting to stay relevant…and maybe in the league.
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I thought they should have kept Brennan, too. Boller is apparently only here to be the emergency third stringer. For a team with no real consistent option at the position, I don’t think it makes much sense to not have a developmental guy on the roster being groomed by the coaches. That’s just me, though.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
I can only hope DHB begins to set the field on fire on a consistent basis (albeit it won’t be all on him – its the QB, the coaches, the OLine).
But no one here knows where this thing is going. Many here had already given up on DMC or advocate regulating him to a Reggie Bush type role (I was even one). Many before this had given up on Nnam only to witness him become the elite CB of this league. Who saw TKelly coming on like this?
You guys might as well buckle up and enjoy the ride. You are not there everyday. You don’t see them practice. You don’t witness a lot. Even these players were not good enough they would not be starting above the others. Period.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
AB,
I take it personal whenever people question my Raider faith.
I apologize for calling you name. Emotional reaction.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I think what happens in here is you guy’s get drawn in by a little ignorant immature child. This discussion makes no sense if you really understand what’s happening. Is Gradkowski a decent to good QB probably yes. Is JC a decent to good QB well probably we will see as he continues to play. Up to this point probably most of us are a bit more impressed with Gradkowski because of his play last year and some this year. Campbell IMO is just starting to grow on me I’m seeing things that I do like about him. But I need to see it consistently improve in all areas.
That is my honest feelings but we have a little childish argumentative child who wants and demands that everyone in here sees things his way. You are not allwed your own opinion on this either you’re all about Grads and his heroics or you are stupid. If you somehow think JC is in anyway capable of winning games you are an idiot. That’s his stance and if you don’t agree then you suck.
And he comes in here everday with the same dribble and on this same soap box insisting everyone pledge their allegiance to Gradkowski.
Truth is Gradkowski is a journeyman QB who might one day be a very good QB. But so might JC if they improve and the key wrd for both of them is IMPROVE…………period
Other than that there is nothing to argue about neither is a clear cut answer to anything at this point………….period
Play the damn games and screw this pointless discussion the games will decide ALL OF IT!!
November 13th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Aig, if you don’t want your faith questioned, don’t proclaim your desire to see the QB suck.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
T’pinraider I agree wholeheartedly on all fronts. The games will sort everything out.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Darayduh,
I’m agree with you, and that’s why I’d have no problem with Boller. I dont know much about him, but I have seen enough of JC. We have a championship D and ground game. I’m prob biased because the majority of the people that I hang out with really can’t stand it when JC is back there waiting and waiting to release the ball.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
I just hope the Raider QBs don’t lose faith that DHB is going to make the catch when the ball comes his way. The only way he’s going to improve is if he gets the ball thrown at him. He can’t just be a decoy for his entire career, otherwise it’s going to be a short one.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
AB,
You keep on twisting my words. I know he is going to suck. I dont have to desire it. I know he is. I predicted he’d suck against the Niners. I predicted he can’t carry the team before KC. Now that he is going against the number 1 defense in the league and you think I’d reverse my judgement on him? What part of my English as a second language don’t you understand?
November 13th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Aig, you said that you can’t wait to see the Steelers kill Campbell.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
In the troll world, “twisting my words” means “quoting me accurately”.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
You mean I said I can’t wait till Sunday for JC to be exposed as a Fraud. Suppose you think he’s a fraud (I know you don’t), wouldnt it be better the Raiders be done with it and move on or keep on sticking to it like they did with Jawalrus?
November 13th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Thanks for backing my point.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
S**t, even when JaMarcus was QB no one WANTED him to fail. Any real fan just wanted him to elevate his play and come away with a win.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Everybody keeps suggesting that DHB is some kind of decoy. If you watch the games they do try to get the ball to DHB so far it’s been very tough because of the doubles and bad throws and his own drops. It’s been a combination of things that hav ehurt his productin including musical chairs at the QB position. It takes timing to get those things done.
Everyone looks at JFords breakout game and say why can’t DHB do that? Well up to this point teams wont allow it and the QB is going where single coverage is and having some success in doing so. Whenn they have tried to go to him like in that KC game the ball just wasn’t thrown well taking opportunities away from him. On that roll out DHB was wide open and JC threw it wide making the catch damn near impossible. THe endzone pass was there but he was under duress he is not to the point as a rec that that play is easy for him. If thrown within his body I bet he makes that play. But he had to get horizontal to even touch it. Only a great catch gets that done. He’s not there yet.
They need to get him involved early on as they often do and consistently as they do eventually plays will be made he will become a consistent viable threat and you as a fan will be satisfied if not happy that they did. Ford will start to see sme doubles now and that will allow DHB singles lets see how that turns out. Deal???
November 13th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
AB,
Why are you having problems with understanding simple English logic? I sincerely feel that JC is junk. The longer we stick with him the longer it hurts us. I think he has been masked the past 3 weeks. Therefore I look forward to him getting exposed and yanked so that we are done with him. We’d win more games last year if we yanked Jawalrus sooner.
You can debate that my view on him as a fraud is wrong but you can’t twist my logic. Would you want a starter to be in there, if you think that particular starter is a liability to the team? I feel that JC is a liability.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Wrong. I was a huge Jawalrus supporter coming into last season. I was still his supporter even after the first game, and people thought Grad was playing better relieving him briefly. I gave up later and wanted him out of there.
By you guys’ standard, I am not alone. There are 40k fans that booed both JC and Jawalrus at the game. That must mean those guys are not real fans as well right?
November 13th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
OK! we get it DONE!!
November 13th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Aig, when you root for a teams QB to fail, you are rooting for the team to fail, which means you want to see the Raiders lose to the Steelers.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Paine let it go man…..damn
November 13th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I think the Raiders may lose to Pitt. That does not mean I want them to lose. You, on the other hand, have proclaimed a desire to see the Raiders lose to Pitt just so you can be king of the blog. It’s just pathetic.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Mr Paine, Cal missed a chip shot early in the 4th and wound up loosing, 15-13. Think Oregon is gonna slip a notch or two?
November 13th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Anyways, there is nothing further to debate. You painted yourself into a corner. Check mate, I win. Goodnight.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
I think the offense will get some things done on the Steelerss because frankly speaking I juust don’t think the Steelers have seen a offense like ours with the speed factor. We can cmbine that with power running as well which fast teams rarely can. Reece will have a decided advantage if we choose to use it.
I watched Payton Hillis for the Browns and he remninds me of Reece as well as Bush. That is powere that few teams can produce with the outside speed we have. Sure they have a great front7 but I think we can spread them out and hit them in those gaps. It will be interesting to see how Hujack approaches it and how much success he has gameplannng them. It’s a career statement if he can go in there and beat them.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
DaRayduh, Boise State will probably get screwed. It’s time for a playoff already. I guess there is the possibility that Cam Newton will get suspended.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
AIG doesn’t want the Raiders to loose. Just knows JC will struggle on what he has seen previously and feels that will harm the team, especially in a big game like this. And I agree. You will need a above average A game to beat the Steelers, and JC aint got one. Thats why I see the D, STs, Bush Reece and Mac, along with Seymour as the ones that need to perform big time. Jano better have his A game too.
Looks like my posts aren’t getting thru, so I cleaned up this one. What I said before, when we finally saw JR was a bust, those who still hung onto his sack were calling us every name under the sun. JR was a nightmare, and some see a little of that in Jason and its scary. But look to the D and STs, the running backs and go beyond the qb AIG and we’ll be fine.
I feel great about a Raidrs win, and hope I’m proven wrong about JC, or Cable has a hook as fast as a cat can lick its ass.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Boise State isn’t the big market, so the BCS fears them and thus will screw them. Cal should have won that game.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Thank you Darayhud. Finally someone understands my logic! It was frustrating with the last conversation. I feel like I was having an argument with one of my ex’s.
If I am proven wrong about JC, then JC leads us to a W. I’ll be more than happy to eat my words and celebrate a W.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I can`t help but wonder where Janikowski`s head is at, it seems that he`s as surprised when a kick goes in as the rest of the stadium.
I hope over the bye the big polack puts the vodka down and gets his mojo back.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I hate the SEC. They are so arrogant here. I hope Oregon or Boise whip them good.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Did anyone see that Andre “man-boobs” Smith just went on IR?
There was a lot of speculation that he would end up a Raider.
And just to put in my 2 cents on Campbell, I hold to what I said from Preseason. He can be effective if he has protection and a running game. Take either away and he becomes a liability.
I just don’t think he has the “it” factor.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
DaRayduh
Dude no one needs you to break down AIG’s intentions we all have them very clear in mind. He has stated them ONE THOUSAND times to us. WE get it, what he doesn’t get is the fact that we don’t give a damn.
Please dude lets move on there ae a million things to discuss aboutthis team than this boring ass comparison that aint even worth it. Because neither one of them is a lock to do a damn thing. GRADKOWSKI included………………get it.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
On the Campbell v Grads debate, I think Campbell makes everyone nervous, the first half against KC and the entire SF game is evidence enough, but I hope Hue brings back the option offence we saw in Denver, and picks up the speed on in the huddle. It was awesome to finally see a Raider team go hurry up and execute.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
I’m not sure why Hue does it; maybe its just by the offense’s design but when Murphy sits they still barely call the plays for DHB but instead call Ford or JLHs number and use DHB to clear out and force single coverage on them.
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I think it is pretty simple Terrapin, no need to overanalyze it.
It is in Hue’s belief that DHB is better at clearing out than catching passes.
Not rocket science.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Why is it that Cal always has some tall QB with a rocket arm and no accuracy, and a tiny Italian kicker that can’t kick in the clutch?
I swear I have been watching the same story for the last 15 years.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Well at least Tits Smith going one pick ahead of DHB doesn’t make DHB’s career average of 1.4 catches for 19.5 yards and .05 TD per game not seem so bad.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
And until he gets to the point where he doesn’t make everyone nervous his job will be in question. But to be honest Gradkowski does the same to me. I am not in any fashion comfortable with him at QB he does some stupid crap. When one of them does something significant and allows this offenses to be a threat game in game out we don’t have a legit starter.
When everyone is happy with the same guy then you’ll know we have our guy. Until then IMO it doesn’t matter.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
If I’m proven wrong too about JC, I got no problem either eating crow. Never have. And like I said, to avoid frustration, look to the D. They will be just as capable of scoring as the offense. Special Teams gotta be a lock for at least 7, maybe more.
When so many new weapons emerge each game, the game planning for the opposition becomes a little more challenging. Reece, Ford, N Miller, the Decoy, Seymour and the defense. Wish the game was tomorrow. Got a feeling JC can have a horrible game and we’ll still win.
Now if it gets close like a SD or last minute KC, one thing for sure, Campbell is no cat with nine lives. That is what worries me. But, I’ll remind myself of the rest of the team and we’ll be fine.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I don’t see AIG’s rants about Jason Campbell any worse than the people who have spent years rambling on about how bad our O-line is, and that we will never win unless we start drafting O-lineman in the first round and Al Davis is the only person who doesn’t realize this and blah blah blah.
Same shat, different shovel. Some of us die-hards get frustrated when we feel a certain position is hindering our ability to win. Many of us have different views on what that is that is holding us back and hence the debate that rages on endlessly in here.
Go Raiders
November 13th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
183.Roch R Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
On the Campbell v Grads debate, I think Campbell makes everyone nervous, the first half against KC and the entire SF game is evidence enough, but I hope Hue brings back the option offence we saw in Denver, and picks up the speed on in the huddle. It was awesome to finally see a Raider team go hurry up and execute.
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YES. The speed of the huddle and the tempo of the game. If we have that going right now we would be unstoppable. No huddle, tempo, command. Just the thought of that phase of the game makes me see how close this team really is. And thus in that our weak link exists.
November 13th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
189.Just Fire Baby Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I don’t see AIG’s rants about Jason Campbell any worse than the people who have spent years rambling on about how bad our O-line is, and that we will never win unless we start drafting O-lineman in the first round and Al Davis is the only person who doesn’t realize this and blah blah blah.
Same shat, different shovel. Some of us die-hards get frustrated when we feel a certain position is hindering our ability to win. Many of us have different views on what that is that is holding us back and hence the debate that rages on endlessly in here.
Go Raiders
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Totally agree. Or any different than some who held onto certain players sacks who were awful.
I totally understand the frustration but have finally found a way around it.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
JFB
Kirks proclamations are a trip…….lol
like he thinks Mr Davis somehow needs to be informed of football 101…………hahaha
November 13th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
JFB is the person that openned my eyes about JC’s numbers and I started to dislike him in the Niner preseason game.
I dont get is the herd mentality. People get offended when you feel strongly about a particular player. Has JC given us a reason to not feel comfy or dislike him? Of course.
It gets stupid when you start questioning someone’s Raider faith because you dont agree with their analysis.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I don’t see AIG’s rants about Jason Campbell any worse than the people who have spent years rambling on about how bad our O-line is, and that we will never win unless we start drafting O-lineman in the first round and Al Davis is the only person who doesn’t realize this and blah blah blah.
Same shat, different shovel. Some of us die-hards get frustrated when we feel a certain position is hindering our ability to win. Many of us have different views on what that is that is holding us back and hence the debate that rages on endlessly in here.
Go Raiders
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The difference is that now the Raiders ARE winning. And somehow that isn’t enough for some people. Moreover, some people are now calling for Campbell’s head when there is no option on the team who is better, or who has delivered the kind of results JC has over the past few games. Honestly, I get wanting to draft a QB, or pick up another guy through free agency next season. That makes complete sense. But there’s nothing else that can be done right now but ride the hot hand. And some folks want him to fail just so they can say they’re “right”.
And this nonsense about “take away the running game and the protection and JC can’t do anything!”… Well no s**t, Sherlock. You can say that about at least 15 other starting QBs in this league.
Would this team be better with a Payton Manning-caliber QB? Of course they would! I would love to see an elite talent come through Oakland and lead this team. So if you guys know who or where that guy is, then please, let Al Davis know so he can go get him.
Until then, be happy that your team is winning games with below average-to-average talent at the QB position. Hopefully either the guys already on the roster improve, or next season the Raiders find that guy.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Well, I said that he can be effective with protection and a running game, but take either away and he can’t (consistently) improvise.
I think Gradkowski does a better job of making something out of nothing. He proved that he doesn’t always have to have protection and the run to move the chains.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
AIG I think that after years of insufferable quarterbacks, and especially after the last debacle, we all are a little gun shy when it comes to that position. We finally have alot of peices to the puzzle and do not want to see it compromised at the qb position. So with that said, what I see is that the entire team wants to be a leader. There are no cancers on the team, and no one is above the team. And to me that makes the entire team one unit. That is where Cable is earning his keep. So in spite of the qb position, I think as a team the desire to win is greater than looking to that position to get it done on offense. We have not been this good on D, special teams, and a trio of running backs in a long long time. Therefore, I feel strongly about them winning next week. We’ll just have to bear thru it and see how it comes out in the end. That is how I get around the decision to stay with JC. Thats not saying he won’t be good in the future, near or distant, or ever, it is just where its at right now.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
I think Gradkowski does a better job of making something out of nothing. He proved that he doesn’t always have to have protection and the run to move the chains.
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Yep, I agree that Gradkowski is much better at making something out of nothing. I still think he has a penchant for making the same terrible decisions JC does at times. He forces the ball into impossible situations… which is sometimes good, and sometimes bad. And then there’s the fact that he’s had trouble staying healthy.
Honestly, both guys have very different skill sets so it’s hard to compare them. There are plenty of pros and cons to both guys. It just so happens that Campbell is coming off some big games, so he’ll get the start against Pittsburgh. Whether he keeps the job remains to me seen.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
I think Grad would give us a better chance to win vs Pitt. because he has a faster tempo, and can scramble. But I don’t just hope the Raiders could win anymore. I expect them to. Haven’t felt like that since the days of Plunkett and Allen. Gannon days were nice, but the ability to dominate is coming back.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Congratz Jacoby!!! Way to step up. That’s Raider football! And I will also add a STFU to the guys above who are not down with Al and Campbell. Tom is not going to start Bruce right now… Get over it!! He will come looking for your input if he needs it. He doesn’t need it right now. Jason Campbell is Captain Conservative. We would’ve lost that Charger game had he not come in and slowed down the tempo of the game handing the ball off to McFadden and checking down instead of forcing the ball like Bruce likes to do. Bruce is exciting to watch, don’t get me wrong. I was grateful and impressed with the numbers he put up, but Jason’s got this for now. Relax and enjoy the ride.
November 13th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Any QB needs protection I think that is the single biggest lisconception about Grads because that’s the reason he cannot stay healthy. When he gets hit he gets hurt. He needs as much protection as JC and to be honest I’ve seen JC escape the rush plenty.
Now there are somethings Grads does better but to say he does need as muc protection is bullcrap he may need more. What he does do is throw outside the pocket better but those are planned roll outs and some are his mobility. But JC is a very good athlete he is very mobile.
Gradkowski is just more comfortable in the offense IMO and sees things quicker and gets rid of the ball faster. But he takes too many chances with the ball like the AZ game is a good example he should’ve been picked 4 times lucky for him they dropped them. He struggles with pressure in his face and throws it up for grabs and has trouble seeing over the line. Other than that he’s Payton Manning. Oh and I think he’s not very accurate when pressured.
JC is still seeing ghost and still struggling with the personnel on this team. He has trouble trusting what he sees and making quick decisions. AS he improves in those areas I’d like to see what kind of QB we’ll have once he improves. As he gets snaps will he play faster? will he take advantage of the defensive looks better? Will his accuracy mprove as he learns the team and gets more comfortable. No one knows until he does it.
But IMO that puts both these guy’s in the same boat on the way to improve, because neither inspires confidence in me that they can get the job done consistently.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
After seeing the Rams have only given up 6 points in the first quarter this year makes me wonder if we ever should have pulled Campbell. We may have 2 more wins. Campbell knows the score when he takes the snaps. Every play isn’t in desperation. It’s more smooth. If the play is shot right off the bat, he won’t force anything unless time and score calls for it. If the snap is bad and goes rolling off he’ll fall on the ball to save the turnover rather than try to pick it up and make something happen. It forces everyone to play better. Hue just has to dial up another play to compensate for who’s error it was. And I’ll attribute that first lost to the Titans to the then very green center and the run defense, both of whom have gotten 1000% better.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Drixxel
Both Camps have some strong points and that is the very reason why I don’t argue against either guy. Because the guy I might be argueing for just aint a helluva lot better. They are amrginally different in terms of level of play they have different strengths but one is not head and shoulders better than the other.
It almost comes down to personal preference to be honest. There are some things that JC does very well but he needs to play much faster. If he can do that IMO that alone would do wonders for his status he just does things a beat too slow. If he can speed it up he wuld becaome a legitimate QB IMO. He has good accuracy and great touch on the ball. He’s very poised and does get flustered. IN that KC game that everyone knocks him for he threw some darts. He drove the team downfield with calmness and executed but that hlding penalty put him in a precarious positin where he had to make a play and Ford helped him.
Then in OT he threw a very smooth deep ball with touch on it giving the WR a chance to get to it and make the catch. Game over!!! That is the MARK of a legitimate QB how do you play when the chips are down and time has run out. He got it done. But some will take that throw dirt on it by saying why didn’t he play that way all game. And quite frankly he did he was just doing it with guy’s he wasn’t sure of. JFrd showed up in the second half he dropped 2 balls in the first half.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
I seen a progression in JC. Looking at the seattle game he missed JFORD on a lot of open deep balls.
I am sure hue Jack and cable notice what us semi pro’s saw in the film study, KC game JC recognized JFORD…
Strated trusting JFORD, even with the 2 drops he had…
In my mind that progress…The ability to trust the wides you have in the game on deep throws…
November 13th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
It almost comes down to personal preference to be honest. There are some things that JC does very well but he needs to play much faster.
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This is what I hope we do against pitt….Fast paced game spread them out, and thow on them….
Ne will beat the pats tommorrow by spreading them out…
AIG, I like both our QBs however, I will take you up on the 3-1 odds…This team is playing lights out football and should be 7-2….
they have learned how to win, and will continue to do so…that said what is the wager?
November 13th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Agreed. Most would rather talk about his 9 yards in the first half instead of his 220 in the 2nd half. Just to let you know the Steelers have given up 15 points all year in the first quarter and 9 in the third so don’t be surprised if he don’t go right down and score. Although, I hope we do. We will be among the few.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Hue Jack has shows a new wrinkle every game… I hope the new wrinkle will be a 4 wide set…. This will scare the bejings out of lebow…Perfect set to run out of…
We have waaayyyy to much speed for the pitt D to hang… Reece or DMAC on wheel routes and screens…
But against pitt i am going to come out slinging, as this is pitts krptonite….
November 13th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
And I also think if this is a Oakland Raider site, they don’t need to be trying to start problems in the media.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Thec,
the wager is a healthy JC will get yanked before the season is over or can come as early as next Sunday. $25. You in or out?
November 13th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I’ll give you 3-1 odds.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Pitts kryptonite is the pass? Maybe. But, the way I see it, they force you to throw, and end up beating you seeings they are 6-2. Our ground game is top notch right now, and I hope we can establish it.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Well, people tried to start the Bruce chant at the KC game… honestly, it reminded me of all the 49er fans chanting David Carr on Sunday Night Football. Honestly, it just made the 49ers look dysfunctional. Luckily the chants weren’t that loud, and JC shut them up.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Well they were cheering like hell by the end of the game. If he wins 2of the next 3 that chant will be a distant memory. I think it’s bushleague to begin with they didn’t really give JC a chance this year to get comfortable and show what eh could do before he was unceremoniously dumped. I know he did look bad vs Tenn and in the 1st half vs StL had a terrible game vs SF but everything else what has he done that was any worse than what Grads did. Even the 2 picks in the SF game IMO weren’t bad picks the defender made a great play on the first one and Ford caused the 2nd. Say what you will about that QB rating but he had help attaining it.
Like I said I cannot argue with his game since the SF game he has done what they’ve asked him to do which is don’t lose the game and make a few throws to help us win it. He has done that. And by tomorrow night we could be in 1st place in the division as a result. What’s not to like?
November 13th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
DaRayduh,
I agree. I was as big of a Jawalrus supporter as anyone on here. I loved his potential but we all know what happened. JC works hard but unfortunately he looks just like Jawalrus out there more often than some are willing to admit.
Here is an interesting stat on JC. People say he has a big arm but he has never produced results with it.
2010 he ranks 26th for 20+ yds completions.
2009 17th
2008 20th. The sad part is Jawalrus had more 20+ comps than JC in 2008. He was ranked 14th.
2007 17th
2006 didnt even make the list
November 13th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
*big fan
November 13th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Broncos coming off of a bye. Betting line started with KC -1, now it’s even. Denver beat Tennessee earlier this year. They should be able to beat KC in Denver.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Drix, I know you will be watching the game tommorrow. Watch how NE spreads pitt out…one thing the pirates can do is stip the run…
November 13th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
You guys see 3 wins and you celebrate. I look at it and say what’s the trend. The trend is it has gotten tougher and tougher for the offense since Denver. JC admitted it was a tough first half against Sea. He admitted it was a tough game offensively against KC. Pitt is way better than Sea or KC defensively so I see a disaster looming. Some of you see it differently. We’ll see who’s right next Sunday.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Aig, let’s put 100 bones as the wager… Baring injury campbell will start the next 3 and will not be yanked…3-1 odds…
November 13th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
He has produced results the last 3 games wether you understand that or not. You don’t win 2 games back to back like that and have zero to do with it as the QB in this league. If that is your premise YOU ARE A DUMBELL………….period
This is what I don’t like about your ass at all you will do wnything to deny this man any credit whatsever and then turn around and profess godlike qualites for Grads you cannot have it both ways.
You don’t win a game the way he did vs KC and then say he had zero to do with it. YOUR a FOOL.
Gradkowski is borderline if anything better than JC any coach with brain can see that. You may not LIKE his game but to say it’s incompetent is ridiculous.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Thec,
$25 is good enough for me. Call it a friendly wager. It was supposed to be for the season but I’ll take the next 3 games.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
JC ranks 26th in 6 games with 15 +20’s, avg’s out to 13th in 9 games with 22 +20’s, and has the #2 rushing attack in his arsenal. Obviously, if every other team could run the ball that effective their passing numbers would be lower.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Priest,
Wade Wilson once made a post throw to James Jett against SD to win the game for us. Was he great in your mind? I dont remember him having any WR bailing him out a few times either or missing a wide open fleaflicker.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Okay Aig,it is ratified, and in the books…2d biscuits at 3-1 odds. You lose I win 75. You win its 25…
November 13th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Drixxel,
If you’re running effectively, you’re supposed to be able to make the big plays. C’mon man. Using your logic, we didnt run well against SF but I dont remember any big plays. I do remember JC underthrowing a fleaflicker on Murphy as well as missing an open Murphy on a go route.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
WHO said GREAT man I’m just telling you that when you say he had nothing to do with 3 straight wins in this league at the QB position it makes zero sense you’re just hating on him because you want the other guy. There are a lot of people who want the other guy but they’re smart enough to acknowledge when some one else is getting the job done………….period
November 13th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
He threw for close to 4k with the Redskins. And every year he played he got better. We’ve got tons more talent on this team than the Redskins IMO and watching McNabb kinda confirms that.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Sleep time, you fuus enjoy tommorrow as both pitt and kc get dismantled…
Ltr NATION…
November 13th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
I think if KC loses to Denver it would really show they aren’t for real; plus it would mean at the beginning of the game at Pittsburgh the announcers will say: “Today’s game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the AFC West leading Oakland Raiders”.
We do have the tie-breaker if KC loses.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Priest,
I was begging for Boller to start in Den and you know I dont think much of him when we got him. I still stand by that. What you guys do is when you are cornered with facts on JC’s flaws, you turn around and call names or say it’s because you want Grad in there. Trust me. Grad will be in there sooner than you think. I have zero doubt about that.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Well, he didn’t have McFadden against SF, and the receivers couldn’t catch balls. SF played us tough, give them no credit.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Boller was atrocious when he came in last. Don’t root for that until he’s practiced a lot more lol.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
But I thought you said he can’t get the big plays because we are running so well. nevermind. You guys have a good nite.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
If KC loses this game he air will proceed to come out of the proverbial balloon. However KC’s defense I do believe is legit I just think their passing game is HORRIBLE. If you slow their running game they sink into mediocrety.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Denver’s gonna throw all day.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
They have to their running game has been average all year so they can pass if given time. We just covered them like a blanket. I’m not sure KC can do that if it’s in Denver I would not be surprised if Denver won. That would indeed put us in 1st place. After going 2-4 the first 6 that is great stuff.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Haha…are we still talking about JC vs Grads? Eveyone has their opinion…why argue and call one another names?
November 13th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
KC is going to beat Denver and the Pitt game will be our toughest of the season.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
# Born with a Patch Says:
November 13th, 2010 at 11:36 am
MR, two kids from Virginia thought they could handle Juarez so they went. they never made it back over the border. Being so close we hear alot of first hand accounts of some CRAZY ish. People over there just killin for fun everyday.
………………
You mean Mexico has murders? Wow. I’ll stay way. Glad we’re nice and safe here in the US, where there are no murders.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
That type of performance in the 1st half against KC wont cut it…it will be 24- 0 before we know it.I know everyone is picking with their hearts but the fact is we have to play great in all 3 phases to win this pitt team ( its not weak like last years team)
November 13th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
regarless, in Cable I trust ” hip hip horray…hip hip horray…HIP HIP hORRAAYY”
November 13th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
No one is picking with their heart except one guy, the rest of know who the coaches are going to play and we’re hoping for the best for him and the team except like i said one guy.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
What guy is that?
November 13th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Despite what fantasy demon says I’m not so sure about Zach Miller’s arch injury.
Hoping for the best, but he could be out LT.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:00 am
As long as we don’t turn the ball over, we’ll be fine. The only time KC scored in the first half was the TD after the fake punt that didn’t work and the FG after McFadden fumbled. It should’ve been scoreless.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:02 am
I agree Nnam…I think Zach’s injury is worse than we are led to believe…
November 14th, 2010 at 12:11 am
With our punter and all of our pass rushers we should end up with the most safeties in the league lol.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:33 am
AIG,
your fantasy football kicker Jason Hanson is injured this week. has been ruled OUT
you might want to consider picking up Neil Rackers or Graham Gano instead
just a quick heads up!
Good Luck this week
November 14th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Rockstar…you;re up late…
November 14th, 2010 at 12:58 am
LMAO! I feel ya…I fell asleep at 9 woke back up about an hour ago…
November 14th, 2010 at 1:04 am
To make sure…I wasn’t LMAO at your stomach…
November 14th, 2010 at 1:08 am
I left work early on Friday, but in doing some catch up stumbled upon these blog gems:
I wouldn’t stick my “neck” out for Harvey Williams
Neck? Trade Jon Condo for Merton Hanks!
gotta respect that crazy dance he had though
I bet Fargas could longsnap…
Cable’s ‘off the hook,’
Kell singing ‘Who Let the Dogs Out,’ by the way.
I alwyas told myself I could come up with at least one crappy song that would be played at sports venues ad nauseum for 20 years and get paid like a mofo.
Think Blur’s “Song 2″
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hilarious!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:09 am
Good night Nation! Enjoy the games tomorrow…I know, will be hard with the Raiders on a bye! GO RAIDERS!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:16 am
Take a look at the teams competing for AFC playoff spots and the quarterbacks involved, then insert where “Campkowski” fits in.
In no particular order, there’s Philip Rivers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger and probably Mark Sanchez who are better, and that’s without even bringing Matt Schaub and a fading Houston team into the equation.
Tennessee seems stuck between Vince Young and Kerry Collins, and the Chiefs have Matt Cassel, situations which Oakland may be able to claim superiority at the most important position on the field.
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Brady & Manning just lost to Colt McCoy & Mike Vick.
We already took down Rivers, & Cassel.
Little Ben is 0-2 against the Raiders in his career and has the worst O-Line in football. Even worse than usual after being beset by injuries, including starting LT to I.R.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:17 am
nite Hwnrdr. nite Raider Nation
November 14th, 2010 at 5:18 am
I guess I’ll be watching K.C./Den today. Not quite Raider football unfortunetley. Go Donks! (for today only)
I will also be cheering for the Pats to rough up the steelers, as well as watching for any Pittsburgh tendancies on offense/defense that I can send to Tom Cable in preperation for next week.
November 14th, 2010 at 7:16 am
ATTENTION SCARY MCDONALD:
Wake up and Blog!!
This place is on life support this morning
November 14th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Good morning Nation, The only Nation.
Wow it’s been a minute since I’ve posted. We still had Jmarcus at QB lol. Now I see were still arguing QB’s. All this while on a 3 game win streak. Will we ever enjoy a week for what it is. Were In a bye and can be in first by the end of the day. Not to mention our next opponent has a tough game. In this league with injuries and the steelers being thin. They could get a whole lot thinner.
November 14th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Ok if we can’t agree on QB, let’s talk defense. I think we can all agree on that subject. Routt is playing his best football ever. Hopefully we get Nnamdi back, MM34 stuffing the run lanes or covering tight ends. My question is, what options do you think Pitt has on offense?
We know they’ll stop the run, maybe, but how will they move the rock?
November 14th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Also the last time I posted, me and Dakota were sticking up for McFadden. My argument was the zone blocking, to allow Dmac to use his instics instead of cutting back and sacrificing his speed. I see that argument was put to rest…..lol
November 14th, 2010 at 7:44 am
The key to stopping the Steelers offense has been the same for years.
Keep Ben in the pocket. That guy might be the best ever at scrambling around and playing sandlot football.
When he drifts out of the pocket, he doesn’t look to check down or throw it away. He is looking down the field for HUUUUGE chunks of yardage.
November 14th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Morning 4 lifer.
I will be the first to admit, I doubted Darren’s abilities way to early. Was way off on that one, and am glad that I was wrong.
But even the McFadden defenders over the last season or so were wrong at times to.
The defense was that the Raiders were using him wrong, have to get him off the edge and use him more like Reggie Bush.
Well that has had nothing to do with his resurgence. He is used NOTHING like Reggie Bush, gets a lof of carries and yards on handoffs up the middle still, and the Raiders really haven’t changed much in the way they use him, he is just more effective and getting more carries because of it.
November 14th, 2010 at 7:54 am
I believe Jerry just pissed in my corn flakes.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:04 am
JFB
“he will never be a smash mouth type RB. We need to use him like Peyton uses Reggie”
We sure heard that a lot with some fire Cable and Al sucks thrown in. You are right in that he is being used the same way. Its obvious that he is playing harder and I think he has learned to pause for that split second it takes to let plays form and blockers to move.
Its a sign of good coaching. Hue gets tons of credit and he is only in his first season.
John Marshall deserves awards as well. He is in his second season. We have pretty much revamped the line, are finally stopping the run thanks to Al who cheated the mighty Bill and his team for Richard.
The OAKLAND RAIDERS deserve coaching staff of the year awards as well as the ultra prestigious MVGM
November 14th, 2010 at 8:08 am
I just typed up a wonderful blog about how great the Pimp Hand is, hit send and it vanished.
I hate when that happens
November 14th, 2010 at 8:13 am
I think and hope Al has Cable signed for another year on the current contract.
You just know that JJ has a woody for TC. He is one of the few coaches that could change the culture in the Cowbell locker room and get them winning again.
Cable is gonna be highly sought after and will hit the mega contract lottery if Al ever lets him go.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:17 am
The more I think about it the more obvious it is.
The coaches are doing a fantastic job.
The rookie draft class is proof of that. After selecting the best players you still have to coach them up and it takes time especially when you are the laughing stock of the NFL, coming off a handful of really dreadful seasons with little hope of turning it around this year.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:22 am
“I believe Jerry just pissed in my corn flakes.
They smell like sausage flavored pancakes and big macs?
November 14th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Just kidding, Jerry.
As a matter of fact, you have stepped your game up as well. You do a great job and you give us semipros lots of latitude as well as no moderators.
Keep up the good work.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Plunkt,
Yup that was my point. The Raiders were not using McFadden wrong, he just wasn’t as good as he is today.
Know everyone who defended him by blaming Cable and company are throwing out the “I told you so’s”.
But whatever, it is what it is. Dude is a damn good back now, best in the division and a darkhorse MVP candidate.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Can you imagine this place with mods?
I would make a great mod, but I dont know about the rest of you. : )
November 14th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Why do I keep screwing up my Now’s with Know’s?
Scaring the crap out of me. Can you get Alzheimer’s in your 30’s?
November 14th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Lance train wreck kiffin came this ! close to ruining DMAC for good. He “forced” him back after the KC game with turf toe. I recall Darren saying he took a shot and it messed him up. He aggravated the turftoe and caused another injury. That was the game he was slipping all over.
At the time I was praying that he wouuld not blame the Raiders.org for that. I never heard anything else about it so I assume there was no blame.
I was so concerned about it at the time that I blogged about it. But I was ignored. I knew then that Darren would be a great player : ) and I didnt want another Marcus on our hands.
Yes sir, noone can accuse me of dissing on DMAC : )
November 14th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Most people start screwing up minor things like that and forgetting where they put things more often in their 40,s and fifties.
Ask Jerry
I would not be suprised to see the age drop because of all the toxins we are in contact with as well as those we ingest or inhale.
From cellphone “waves” to corn syrup, processed foods, fast foods to produce that is sprayed with who knows what to bio seeds that produce veggies that have seeds that wont grow anything so you have to buy seeds from Monsanto every year to chickens,cattle that are feed nasty stuff filled with chemicals and if that was not enough they inject them more deadly chemicals to fatten them up as well as age them quicker.
Yep we are doomed.
What was the question?
November 14th, 2010 at 8:51 am
The secret to the Raider defense
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photos/Aug-17-Training-Camp/e8c34739-e626-425b-8600-ff7c8244b4a2
November 14th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Zone blocking held Dmac in check. Now we run more power blocking to the left and zone to the right while pulling Gallery.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Penningtons contract pays him an extra 200 GRAND for each game in which he plays at least one play.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:56 am
anyone know the age limit of kids before you must get them a seat ticket?
November 14th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Been reading this back and forth about DMAC and I recall several times posting here that DMAC was the real deal and all the coaches had to do was go find Houston Nutt and get his DMAC playbook. That simple. DMAC even said himself that when Hue Jack arrived he asked DMAC what kind of plays he liked to run and the formations.
Last year Cable had too many hats on that XL head that he didn’t think to do that. They can always blame health w/DMAC but stupid run plays contribute to poor health.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Don’t care who wins but wouldn’t mind seeing Denver beat KC and NE beat Pitt.
That would serve us well when we go to Pitt and knock them off. Also, looking at the standings, it’s not out of the question for a wild card spot to come out of the AFC WEST. In fact I predict one will.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:20 am
504 Raider Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Been reading this back and forth about DMAC and I recall several times posting here that DMAC was the real deal and all the coaches had to do was go find Houston Nutt and get his DMAC playbook. That simple. DMAC even said himself that when Hue Jack arrived he asked DMAC what kind of plays he liked to run and the formations.
Last year Cable had too many hats on that XL head that he didn’t think to do that. They can always blame health w/DMAC but stupid run plays contribute to poor health.
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Heard DMac on Sirius raidio. He said last year, all the running plays were zone left and zone right. He said Hue came in and installed Isos, powers and counters and that Hue has made all the difference. Cable as an OC was a disaster!
November 14th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
For every 14.25 pass attempts, JC suffers either 1 int or fumble. The top in the league is Mike Vick at 62.5 attempts for every fum/int. The 15th guy has a 24.46 attempts per int/fum.
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I see you conveniently left out Bruce’s numbers. Let me present them to you . . .
101 pass attempts. 4 INTs. 3 fumbles.
Here’s the math: 101/(4 + 3) = 14.43
That’s a fumble/INT for every 14.43 pass attempts. I believe when compared to Jason’s 14.25, it would be called a “statistically insignificant” difference. Bruce also has a nearly identical TD/att percentage, a lower completion percentage, a lower ratio of 40+ yard passes per attempt, and a lower passer rating.
Quit with your whining and crying already, Aig. That’s all you do all day here is hate on Jason Campbell being the starter. You’d rather see him fail than win just so you can be right.
I can’t believe we have such a tool in Raider Nation. I’d swear you’re actually a Cowgirls fan in cognito.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Not saying Cable wasn’t a disaster at OC, although I think the QB had plenty to do with it, but he did hang 27 in Pittsburgh last season.
I hope that Hue can muster up the same amount of points in a week.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:27 am
I love looking at these standings.
For one they use logos in the Standings and the Shield looks great in second soon to be first place
It also shows the wild card race and we are one game behind the cheating punks for the wild card.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/standings
November 14th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Raiding Texas,
Do you even read the article? The article said JC is a good game manager preventing turn over and can help the deep ball QB.
I proved it that he is last in the league for int+fumb per pass attempts and ranks 21st when using fumblost.
I checked again and here is what Jerry said, “You’ll need Campbell because he can be a solid, methodical game manager who minimizes turnovers and can occasionally stick a difficult throw when it matters.”
You JC supporters are a funny group. When confronted with facts, you twist the argument.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Last year we took Dmacs strength away by making him cutback. That killed his speed, now he hits the hole at full speed and gets to the 2nd level quicker
November 14th, 2010 at 9:37 am
The only thing you JC supporters ever do is when I corner you….oh but Bruce does this bruce does that too!!!! Fck Bruce, he’ll be in there sooner anyways. I’d rather see Boller than Japuke.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Aig, I see your still crying about Campbell. Campbell will lead the Raiders to the playoffs, Grads will be playing in the UFL in two years.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:42 am
For whatever reason, Aig vehemently hates Campbell. He hates him so much, he would rather see the Raiders get destroyed by the Steelers than see JC win with a bad performance.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Aig = Charged Up!
November 14th, 2010 at 9:51 am
I don’t think a whole lot has changed with the approach of using Darren or the O-line.
He is simply breaking tackles more, staying healthy, and the offense is moving the ball more and getting more plays, hence more carries. Any RB at the NFL level will get better with more carries.
I have seen Darren break more tackles in a game this year (pick one STL, Denver, Seattle) than he did all of last season.
Don’t know if it is health, just finding his niche or what, but he is a completely different football player this year.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Cable said DMAC is running lower to the ground this year. Said his RB coach deserves the credit for getting DMAC back to the way he was running in college.
On top of that, DMAC admitted last offseason was the first time he took it seroiusly by working out in a prof facility ran by Michael Johnson.
Plus we are blocking better now so all 3 are at least the contributing factors.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Why do I keep screwing up my Now’s with Know’s?
Scaring the crap out of me. Can you get Alzheimer’s in your 30’s?
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Check for Alzheimer’s –
The following was developed as a mental age assessment by the School of
Psychiatry at Harvard University .. Take your time and see if you can read
each line aloud without a mistake.
1. This is this cat.
2. This is is cat.
3. This is how cat.
4. This is to cat.
5. This is keep cat.
6. This is an cat.
7. This is old cat.
8. This is fart cat.
9. This is busy cat.
10. This is for cat.
11. This is forty cat..
12. This is seconds cat.
Now go back and read the third word in each line from the top down.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:58 am
AB,
Having a conversation with you is like trying to talk logics with a woman. I’ll pass thanks.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Channel #705 for me this morning
Rex vs Rob
Anybody with football smarts been watching the Browns this year? I was wondering what type of D Rob runs now and is it much different then what he did in Oakland?
November 14th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 9:58 am
AB,
Having a conversation with you is like trying to talk logics with a woman. I’ll pass thanks.
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Aig, I’m not surprised you have issues with women.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:01 am
TW,
I screwed up the second one, the first time, than said kept cat instead of keep cat.
Thanks for scaring me even furthur.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:08 am
yeah I hope Peyton Hillis and Rob Ryan kill the Jets today.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Man, Colt McCoy looks good. League got a bunch of young QB’s with some potential.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Good Morning Nation
November 14th, 2010 at 10:13 am
And you’re only in your 30s!!! LOL
I blame mine on smoke potting.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:15 am
I did not care for Colt at Texas but he has earned my respect.
He sure looked on that first drive. Why cant we get a QB like that?
November 14th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Man, Colt McCoy looks good. League got a bunch of young QB’s with some potential.
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You don’t know sh*t about QB talent.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:17 am
I thought Colt looked pretty good even in his first game against Pitt, even though they struggled a bit.
The kid seems to have that all elusive “it”
November 14th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Today is a very tough test for Colt but he’s got pretty poise back there on that last drive shaking off a potential sack.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman, Stafford and Colt all seem to have that it. Not sure about Rodgers.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I meant why cant we draft a QB like that for the future. The Browns did not expect Colt to play this year, let alone look this good
November 14th, 2010 at 10:20 am
We dont like QB with weak arms.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:22 am
My Sunday ticket is going crazy on me.
No mix station, just 704 and 705
November 14th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Aig
Thats one good reason
November 14th, 2010 at 10:33 am
AD just loves the big arm as well as finding players to match his previous talents. He cracks me up always trying to find the next Lamonica and Cliff Branch. I believe his quest for those 2 items have haunted the fans for many years with guys like Jawalrus and James Jett.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Looks like the Chad Pennington era didn’t last too long
November 14th, 2010 at 10:33 am
What I would like to see today:
Denver limp away with a beating on KC
NE put some serious pain on Pittsburgh
Miami beat Tenn only because Tenn has the better record
November 14th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Tenn is going to be right there in the mix for the AFC crown.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:39 am
That’s what I love about Football. Even when your team is not playing, there are good reasons to watch the other teams.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:40 am
oh man, Colt may lead the Browns over the Jets today. He’s going to make Jets fan forget about Sanchez.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:41 am
AD just loves the big arm
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So do most GMs. Most of the better than average guys can make all the throws.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Peyton Hillis will forever haunt the Donkeys. What a lopsided trade.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:45 am
DaRayduh, you want the Steelers to lose today, so they’ll come out uber pumped up in a win or go home game next week? Look up their opponent next week.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Bronco’s are doing a great job of evaluating talent these days aren’t they?
Trading Hillis and a pick for a 3rd string QB.
Trading up to draft Tebow, who isn’t even ready to come in a home game in the 4th quarter down 45 points.
Drafting Alphonso Smith in the second round, releasing him 2 years later, than watching him start for another team immediately.
McDaniels = terrible idea
November 14th, 2010 at 10:47 am
I’d personally like to be playing the team with the best record in the AFC next weekend.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Tebow’s a good pick. He’s a motivated player. He’s playing for his mother’s acceptance.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:49 am
If SF and AZ win today, niners will be (3 & 6) 1 game out of first place. Clearly the worst division in football. Parity at its best.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Some writer was making the comparision between the Patriots the year Brady came in as the starter and the Browns this year with Colt McCoy.
The parallels were pretty interesting. A lot more in common than you would think.
Doubt the Browns will win the Super Bowl, but made me a think about there playoff chances.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:52 am
The only chance in Eskimo hell the steelers have of beating us is if we come out flat after the bye. Thats a much more important “indicater” then Pitt winning or losing to NE tonight
November 14th, 2010 at 10:55 am
318.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 10:45 am
DaRayduh, you want the Steelers to lose today, so they’ll come out uber pumped up in a win or go home game next week? Look up their opponent next week.
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Never said win or lose. Don’t care. Just want the pain.
Got enough confidence in the Raiders. Never have liked Pittsburgh.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Still like that Colin Kaepernick Kid… We can pick him up in the 4th or 5th round and just let sit back and have Hue teach him up… I’d rather have him on the roster then Boller.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:03 am
PurpleDrank, Campbell is going to be our QB for the next ten seasons.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:05 am
I’m not sure if Campbell will be our QB the next ten games.
That contract next year is not guaranteed, and he may get the old Jamarcus treatment if he doesn’t improve.
Take a pay-cut or take a hike
November 14th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Highly doubt that…If he could be solid for 10 years great but I doubt it.. It wont hurt us to draft a Qb in the late rounds
November 14th, 2010 at 11:08 am
I have some weird Man crush wit Kaepernick his stats are just as good as Newtons and has a better arm and has no bad history and is a motivated team leader…
November 14th, 2010 at 11:13 am
wassup peoples!! fugg all that jc vs grads schit. we can end this convo by getting vick next year if available and draft a qb in the mid rnds next year or 2012.i like kapernick alot myself. i want an elite qb thats ready to win us games NOW. dont yall want a qb that defenses have to account for than the scrubs we have? vick and dmc in the same backfield now that vick is more accurate would be awesome. if jc played the way vick was playin we wouldnt even have this discussion. thats what sickens me about jc cuz we need him to play at a probowl level to get where we need to go. that game manager stuff aint good enuff.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Very true ARMOND
November 14th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Have to pay Seymour, Nnamdi, Routt, Huff, and Bush.
Cant see $ available for Vick.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Ws should try and get Love from Minny.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Remember all those Texans potential Super Bowl contenders talk?
8-8 again more than likely.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:25 am
No Salary Cap……… Pay the money AL
November 14th, 2010 at 11:26 am
If there is football in 2011, there will be a salary-cap
November 14th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Thats gonna be crazy If theres not any football next year
November 14th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Pretty sure there will be FB next year, but there will be a salary cap, a rookie salary cap, a better retiree pension and 18 regular season games, and two preseason games.
Book it.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I need football in my life
November 14th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Any1 here from the Eastbay???????
November 14th, 2010 at 11:39 am
so do yall think we should trade nnamdi next year? thats alot of dam money for 1 ints a year and we need to upgrade a few positons. sometimes u gotta give something to get it. i also think we need a playmaking wlb. watching clay mathews jr makes me sick. we need a lb to make plays all over the field like that. its really the only weakness in that front 7. if we had a olb and a ballhawk in the 2ndary we would we be dominant. this draft class has some good lbs in it. can we please sit down scott for matt.s? scott is a situational pass rusher being limited to an edge setter while matt shawny is a part timer. this is what makes me sick about cable.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Nnamdi for Lance Briggs and a draft pick?
Honestly, I would only trade Nnamdi if a high draft pick and a proven veteran were included. Preferably a WR. Otherwise I don’t see it as worthwhile.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I don’t think there will be a lockout. This is the most watched season of the NFL ever. They’re not going to kill the golden goose.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Nnamdi for Lee Evans, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and a 2nd round draft pick?
November 14th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Nnamdi for Calvin Johnson, straight up?
November 14th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I don’t think any of these would actually happen, but those are the only kind of deals I would accept for Nnamdi if I were the Raiders.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Dont really like Fitzpatrick but like Evans
November 14th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Fitzpatrick would be an upgrade over Boller, and maybe even Grads if the Raiders decide to let him walk.
Does JC have a year left on his contract or not?
November 14th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Is trading Nnamdi even an option? Either we pay him top 5 player $ or he’s a free agent is how I understood it.
I’d bring him and Routt back. I’d give Nnamdi and extention that factors in big $ for the next 3 years, but avg about 10 million a year.
Routt should get some nice $ too as a press man cover guy on the rise.
Goethel will be your WLB next year. Have to say Groves is improving though. Might be a fight.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Continue to build this defense and the Oline, and we can roll with the QBs we have.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Goethel and Groves should be an interesting training camp battle next season. I hope they both stay healthy.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Not a fan of Boller at all…
November 14th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I think JC will obviously stick because Al loves him. Grads will too, most likely. I don’t think he’s going to test the free agency market.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I want to see Nnamdi stay unless it gets the Raiders a 1st rounder or high 2nd rounder.
For me, the priorities in the draft are C, FS/CB if either Huff or Routt leave, and OG if Gallery leaves.
In free agency the Raiders should look at Jared Gaither for a little more than the vet minimum (to fortify the RT spot), and a veteran WR to help the young guys along.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Hey Purple…I’m from the East Bay
November 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
One possibility if Huff leaves is trading for/signing (if he gets cut) Jarrad Page from the Pats. He was underrated with the Chiefs, and now that the Pats have Merriweather and Chung at the safety spots, they probably don’t need Page.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I think Goethel is going to be Solid next year… I really like the Walter Mcfadden pick up but the Hammy has killled him….. I dont think we’ll get rid of Nmandi but who knows…..I still think were gonna pick up a 1st round pick next year because I know Al love’s his 1st round picks….. Lets see how we finish off this season and see what the Man upstairs does…. I love our young team rite now and think that we have some young talent…The Raider Nation is back
November 14th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Well, not originally, but live in the East Bay now.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:56 am
I just want to see the Raiders in position to get the big-time C they desperately need. Pouncey or Wiz pt. II, preferably.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:57 am
My sister lives in Oakland.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Satele is improving. He hasn’t looke good the last game or 2, but that’s b/c he got hurt. I’d say that position is servicable, so I guess you’re right in that we could use an upgrade.
Really hoping Bruce Campbell is the guy to replace Carlisle, and we can grab a legit RT in the draft.
My early pick would be a DT. Need to start grooming someone to replace Seymour. Henderson certainly won’t be here next year.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I would take Vick next year in a heartbeat. Maybe this time Deacon Dungy will advise that it’s OK now to go to Oakland.
Big question: Was Hue Jack in ATL when Vick was there?
November 14th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Got to pull for the Donks today, regardless of how jacked up that even sounds..
Also, hoping that NE vs. Pitt is a 12 round slugfest, that leaves them both banged up. Don’t care who wins, I despise each one…
Stuck with G-men and Jerruh’s girls this afternoon. Will probably wash the fleet of vehicles, which always causes it to rain here within a couple of day…lol..
November 14th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I have a feeling they’re grooming Bryant to replace Seymour, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a DT come aboard. Players like Nnamdi and Seymour aren’t going to be around forever, so the Raiders need to have a plan for when they leave or their play declines dramatically.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Nnam isn’t going anywhere. You can bet on that. You don’t look at INTs when it comes to Nnam. That would be missing everything. The impact he has in the secondary is tremendous. Overall, QBs just don’t try him. He shuts down your #1 WR now, not just play one side of the field. His impact goes way beyond INTs.
I think some of you are just too stat crazy. I suppose thats the drawback with all this fantasy football stuff. Everything is statistics.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I think Cable was in Atl with Mora when Vick was there.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Bryant isn’t being groomed to do anything but give guys a breather. If anyone on roster to eventually replace Seymour it’s Houston. He can move inside tomorrow and get more production than Bryant. Raiders can always find a DE if need be.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
So when was Hue Jack in ATL?
November 14th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Go Broncos! I love Kyle Orton.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Hwndr do u know wher Pinole is?
November 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Evaluating resignin Nnamdi has nothing to do with stats. Pure dollars and cents.
If our front 7 continues to improve, our CBs will be just fine.
Nnamdi was not missed last week.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I think the true test for the Raiders pass defense will be against the Colts.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 10:52 am
The only chance in Eskimo hell the steelers have of beating us is if we come out flat after the bye. Thats a much more important “indicater” then Pitt winning or losing to NE tonight
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Is this basically an admission that you don’t know anything about the NFL? Only chance Steelers have of beating us is if we come out flat….LOL. Yeh. Steelers are just average.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
OK Hue Jack was in ATL in 07′
November 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Watch NFLN earlier today and they broke down the Steelers Defense – each one of them basically saying the same thing: You have to run 2-3 WR sets to keep the Steelers in a base defense away from thier nickel & dime packages where they run all their exotic schemes and safties are playing in the box.
In short, the Steelers like to play small ball on defense to keep everything in front of them. To beat them you have to press deep, keeping the safties deep to cover your WRs. They showed Troy P. trying to cover deep and watch the Steelers get burned.
The good thing is playing deep is what the Raiders do, making this matchup very intriguing. JCamp must bring is “A” game with the deep ball.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
2morrow nite the Raiderettes will ba at the Antlers Bar in Pinole California for Monday Nite Football….
November 14th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
The best part of a cheerleaders job is no doubt committing to engagements with fans. Never mind the contacts with celebrities and showbiz. It’s mandatory events with fans that’s the real perk. I’ll be they just can’t wait for tomorrow.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Hwndr do u know wher Pinole is?
Yes I do…the Raiderettes will be there? Cool
November 14th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Bryant isn’t being groomed to do anything but give guys a breather. If anyone on roster to eventually replace Seymour it’s Houston. He can move inside tomorrow and get more production than Bryant. Raiders can always find a DE if need be.
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We can always find a DE if need be? ….Man you can tell when things are going good – people take things for granted. Getting an impactful DE in this league that can hold the edge is not easy! Queue Derrick Burgess et al. You mean to tell me you want that again?
November 14th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
This Bears-Vikings game is a great example of how you can still rush effectively against a great run defense. The Bears are running just enough to keep the Vikings defense honest. That’s what the Raiders need to do against the Steelers.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Yeah, Houston is exactly the kind of player the Raiders want on the edge. And Bryant is the kind of pass-rushing DT the Raiders like. I think Bryant will absolutely get a chance to compete for the starting job if he’s around when Seymour leaves.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Is gonna be a cool lil party….
November 14th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
1) Run blocking
2) Stopping the run
3) Get the ball to Ford
We fail to do any of those things, the Steelers will win. If the Steelers lose tonight, they’ll probably win anyway. Good teams rarely lose two straight. Just an NFL reality, even if Plunkethead wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend the steelers are just going to lay over for the mighty Raiders because they’re scared of them.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Even with a solid effort, the Raiders might still lose to the Steelers. Quite simply, they’re a more complete team than the Raiders are right now.
The Raiders have a chance to win, but they’re going to need to be better than solid in all phases of the game.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I’m sure the cheerleaders are all just on the phone with each other right now, talking about how they can’t wait. Fan engagement tomorrow….in Pinole. This is why they signed up.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I’m sure the cheerleaders are all just on the phone with each other right now, talking about how they can’t wait. Fan engagement tomorrow….in Pinole. This is why they signed up.
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Ahahahaha.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
J Hill Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Evaluating resignin Nnamdi has nothing to do with stats. Pure dollars and cents.
If our front 7 continues to improve, our CBs will be just fine.
Nnamdi was not missed last week.
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One week does not make a season (esp against a poor passing offense).
That “if” is one big “IF”. I agree that you only consider trading Nnam if you have a player that you are confident can fill his shoes to a very large extent – otherwise you just made your defense weaker vs the pass!
Routt is good, CJ – not so confident long term and he’s the oldest, Ware – too early to call, McFadden – too early to call. Soooo who’s going to fill Nnam’s shoes for this secondary to continue performing at this high of a level? #3 vs the pass?
Suffice to say, if we can afford to keep ‘em, we keep him – no question about it. You can think of what ifs until you face turns blue. “What if” no one wants to trade for him for the players YOU want???? Makes your whole thought process futile
November 14th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Steelers lose tonight they’re going to destroy us. They win tonight, and we keep up the energy from last week, we’ll win. You just never know with the Raiders, though. They’re bipolar.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Quite simply, they’re a more complete team than the Raiders are right now.
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That’s arguable.
Their Oline is a mess.
Seconday in pass coverage is average at best.
I think it’s litteraly on Hue to call a good game. Agreed with the breakdown on NFLN this morning. Get Hairamalua to actually play S instead of the roaming stuff he does.
DHB might actually get some opportunities deep in this game.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
One week does not make a season (esp against a poor passing offense).
That “if” is one big “IF”. I agree that you only consider trading Nnam if you have a player that you are confident can fill his shoes to a very large extent – otherwise you just made your defense weaker vs the pass!
Routt is good, CJ – not so confident long term and he’s the oldest, Ware – too early to call, McFadden – too early to call. Soooo who’s going to fill Nnam’s shoes for this secondary to continue performing at this high of a level? #3 vs the pass?
Suffice to say, if we can afford to keep ‘em, we keep him – no question about it.
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Dead on.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Shonasty can move over to Houston spot if Houston moved to Seymour’s spot. As long as we get good DT play, our DE’s don’t have to be dominant, just adequate.
Same way some of you think we don’t need great Corners if we get good play from our front 7.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
That’s arguable.
Their Oline is a mess.
Seconday in pass coverage is average at best.
I think it’s litteraly on Hue to call a good game. Agreed with the breakdown on NFLN this morning. Get Hairamalua to actually play S instead of the roaming stuff he does.
DHB might actually get some opportunities deep in this game.
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Yeah, but that mess of an o-line and average secondary won a Superbowl. They’re the kind of team that has experience winning, and knows how to make up for their weaknesses.
The Raiders are getting there, and have done a good job of overcoming their own weaknesses, but don’t have a whole lot of experience doing so. At least not against elite competition.
I do think DHB is going to get some looks deep. The Raiders are going to have to stretch out that field, for sure.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
We will not have success the final 7 games if DHB still plays every snap once Murphy and Schillens are back. Also Trevor Scott needs to be situational pass rusher at best. Shaunessey must get the majority of the snaps. Scott is awful. Mario Henderson needs to never see the field again. He is absolute garbage. Al needs to let the best players play or we will fade badly during the last seven. DHB has 28 catches in 20 games..please…he sucks.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
“What if” no one wants to trade for him for the players YOU want???? Makes your whole thought process futile
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Who said anything about trading him?
I thought there is a team option for next year. The Raiders can either pay him Brady $, or he becomes a free agent.
I would decline the option and hope to sign him to a 5 year contract at 10 million a year or so.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Shonasty can move over to Houston spot if Houston moved to Seymour’s spot. As long as we get good DT play, our DE’s don’t have to be dominant, just adequate.
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Disagree. If anything, because the DTs in the Raiders defensive scheme are mainly pass rushers, the DEs have to be very good against the run as well as rushing the QB. Average DEs like an aging Greg Ellis, a mediocre Kalimba Edwards, and a hot-and-cold Derrick Burgess were liabilities for the Raiders defense while they were here.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Hopefully the Bills win the toilet bowl game of the week. Not good for a team in the league to go 0-16, unless it’s the niners, then o-16 would be ok, but won’t happen this season.
Game 2 toilet bowlesque is kc and denver. Want to see those two teams beat each other to a pulp in 14:59 of OT and denver gets a safety in the OT. Final score:
Denver 2 KC 0
November 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
I wouldn’t move ShoNasty either.
Or Houston for that matter.
Agree that Scott is a situational guy at best, and I might even replace him with Groves if Goethel beats him out at WLB next year. Not a Scott fan at all.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
YA,
that’s valid. I just wouldn’t want to have to replace Seymour with Bryant. I need to see a lot more Bryant before I can feel good about that.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
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# 504 Raider Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
YA,
that’s valid. I just wouldn’t want to have to replace Seymour with Bryant. I need to see a lot more Bryant before I can feel good about that.
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Well yeah, that’s why I think they’re grooming him. I don’t think he could step in for Seymour tomorrow and have the same impact. But they don’t have to pay him much as he’s an undrafted free agent, and so assuming Seymour will be around for a little while Bryant has some time to learn the game and perfect his technique. Bryant is one of those guys the Raiders coaching staff is always talking up, so I think he’ll get plenty of chances to show what he has.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Either you guys just need something to talk about or you are just not looking at the big picture.
This defense finally started playing at a very high level and you all are talking about making changes to it? Or maybe I’m looking too much into the comments? I agree we should always strive for better but a little perspective is needed here.
This defense is ranked #7 in the league and has only gotten better since the start of the season. A little appreciation may be in order.
Matt S. is getting most of the snaps even as TScott is the penciled in starter (that’s my assumption based on what I see – I don’t have the stats to back it up). Also Mike Mitcell has been seeing the field a whole lot more. Lamaar is getting more comfortable with his role and so is RoMac getting better.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
F the big arm. Colt McCoy just punked all the GM’s that passed on him. What a joy to watch that young kid.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I’m looking forward to RoMac’s play for the second half of the season. He looks like he’s finally getting comfortable in his role.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I always thought that Colt McCoy was going to be very good in this league. I hope he keeps it up, I like his hard-nosed style of play. He’s like a more talented Bruce Gradkowski.
I had him as my favorite QB in the draft. Didn’t think Bradford would get off to such a solid start – that one surprised me. But Colt is playing very well.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Leadership and accuracy always trump height and arm strength. If you are accurate and on time, you dont need a big arm. Colt is a like a younger version of Drew Brees.
November 14th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I think he’s a little different than Brees. Not the huge arm that Brees has, but he’s also more mobile than Brees.
Regardless of the comparisons, if he can avoid injury McCoy has a long career ahead of him.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
LOL. Owens just quit on the Bengals. Anyone see that? He was walking back to the line of scrimmage after a sack, with mere seconds on a moving clock.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
GO DONKS… ha.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Broncos win the Raiders are in first place for the first time since ‘02.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Broncos are going to smoke the Chiefs!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Being an old time RAIDER FAN, I’ve never really paid too much attention to team or individual stats. I think our team motto “JUST WIN BABY” says it all. We may have bad quarterback play, but as long as we’re winning that’s what matters right? This young team, with a few changes here and there, is on the verge of eventual “RAIDER GREATNESS”!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
The only problem with “Just Win Baby” is that Al Davis doesn’t believe in it.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Josh McRib must have taken some notes from the Raiders’ victory over the Chiefs.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
The Chiefs are having a let down after last week.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Broncos Baby! God that sounds horrible coming from me LMAO!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Rob Ryan still sucks.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I really need that TD for fantasy purposes. Go Broncos!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
The NFL is all over the place how do we go from stomping the Bronco’s iinto a hole and barely beating the Chiefs to the Broncos Stomping the Chiefs
November 14th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Sorry, RMR, but as much as you have a dislike for Al Davis, I believe he still believes in it! I accept the fact that over the last whatever time period some of the additions and subtractions both in player and coaching personnel have been confusing and frustrating, I still believe there is no other owner in the NFL who wants their franchise to win and dominate, than yours truely, than Al Davis. Believe me, at times I along with the rest of the RAIDER NATION have been very disappointed with the direction of this great franchise, but now that these “young guns” are starting to show some symbol of trying to right the ship, they at least deserve to have our unconditional support, whether on gameday at the Coliseum, or in print on these blogs. You sir, are more than welcome to come aboard!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Is it 21-0 now? Wow…can you say, “And in first place…your OAKLAND RAAAIIIIDERRS!!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Yeah Rob Ryan and his prevent defense pretty much sucked. They pinned the Jets down and couldnt put a little more pressure on Sanchez.
The Chiefs are not a very good team. I think we saw that last week.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Raiders will be atop the AFC West TONIGHT!!!!!!1
November 14th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Wow KC getting dismantled….
they look like denver of a couple a weeks ago….
November 14th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
We are in 1st place Nation. How does it feel?
November 14th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Wow,look what a decent QB is doing to that Chiefs secondary.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
3 and 0 in the division is looking pretty good right now…
November 14th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Sorry, RMR, but as much as you have a dislike for Al Davis, I believe he still believes in it!
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Sure. That’s why he traded Gruden, hired Turner, hired Art Shell, and fired Kiffin for trying to switch his D to a zone defense. Just Win Baby means doing whatever it takes to win. Al Davis doesn’t not subscribe to that philosophy. He has several football related priorities above winning.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
If Al Davis really believed in “Just Win Baby”, he’d be retired and Bill Parcells would be our GM.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Looks like at the end of the day it will be the FIRST PLACE Oakland Raiders.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
The NFL is all over the place how do we go from stomping the Bronco’s iinto a hole and barely beating the Chiefs to the Broncos Stomping the Chiefs
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You just never know in this league.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
KC can’t shake the loss from last week. Denver is pissed about there loss on London.
You’re right L12. That’s why I thought we should have put up another 50 spot last week. My bad.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Chiefs were only kept in the Raiders game due to the poor play at QB and horrific referees. Otherwise, Raiders would have wiped them out last week too. I always said the Chiefs are not for real.
November 14th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Whatever RMR, I understand your disdain for Al Davis, but at least enjoy this moment as a RAIDER fan? considering how few and far between they have in the last seven or so years. I’ll leave it at that. “GO MY BELOVED RAIDERS, AND KEEP WINNING BABY!
November 14th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
427.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Al Davis doesn’t not subscribe to that philosophy. He has several football related priorities above winning.
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Double negative (I know you know this MR) therefore what you’re really saying is that Al Davis subscribes
to the just win philosophy.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Raiders victory over KC = KC meltdown
November 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Denver is desperate + KC letdown + bye week = Raiders 1st place!
November 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Just finished watching the Jets and Cleveland.
Rex Ryan is still using that God awful vanilla defense in Cleveland.
The Browns lost 26-20 in overtime.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
28-0 Denver over KC.
Will we be in first place if Denver wins?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Rob,not Rex.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
There are 2 more games later and they might be assigned to one of those gams(tonight or tomorrow night),but has anyone noticed that the Triplett officiating crew hasn’t done any games yet this week?Wonder if the league actually punished them.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
They’re showing the replay of the Raiders/ Broncos game right now. They’re just calling it Broncos/ Chiefs.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
432.DaRayduh Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
KC can’t shake the loss from last week. Denver is pissed about there loss on London.
You’re right L12. That’s why I thought we should have put up another 50 spot last week. My bad.
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yep. We tried to gift the game to KC last week but they were too incompetent to cash it in. Today they are getting exposed by a mediocre QB.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
They’re showing the replay of the Raiders/ Broncos game right now. They’re just calling it Broncos/ Chiefs.
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mwuahahahahahahahahaha
November 14th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
428.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
If Al Davis really believed in “Just Win Baby”, he’d be retired and Bill Parcells would be our GM.
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IMO you are right in principle. I believe Al wants to win, but wants to do it his way.
Forget about Parcells, if winning was truly EVERYTHING to Al Davis, then he would have never let Ron Wolf go. That move resulted in almost a quarter century of resurgence for the Green Bay Packers and subsequent futility for the Raiders.
That being said, we are first place baby!
November 14th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Denver can’t blow a 35 point lead can they?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
If someone told you that Randy Moss would avg 26 yds per reception today or be held to 26 yds receiving, which one wold you have guessed?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Aig says: yep. We tried to gift the game to KC last week but they were too incompetent to cash it in. Today they are getting exposed by a mediocre QB.
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Kyle Orton is not a mediocre QB. You are so effing lame.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I would have guessed the 26 yds. receiveing. IMO he’s overrated.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I dont think the Giants are the number 1 team some people think they are.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Every coach and GM wants to win doing it his way.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Thoughts about Denver-KC
I guess once you lose to SF, you get pissed off
November 14th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Anything can happen…but with a 35-0 lead right now, will be in first! Only problem is that the race got that much stiffer…If Denver holds on…
OAK 5-4
KC 5-4
SD 4-5
DEN 3-6
Raiders will have to play dam near lights out to win this and I believe that they can, and most importantly…the team believes they can, also!
November 14th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
What game was that in the 90’s…was it Buffalo/Houston where one of those teams came back from 35 down to win? Can’t remember but it was a playoff game!
# djohnnyg Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Denver can’t blow a 35 point lead can they?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
448.djohnnyg Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I would have guessed the 26 yds. receiveing. IMO he’s overrated.
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Well today he did both.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
We can handle Den and KC. Den in our home should not be a problem. KC is not any good. But SD is where my concern is.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
449.aig-raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I dont think the Giants are the number 1 team some people think they are.
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I know. WTF is up with Dallas? Maybe JJ pulled out a good old fashion ass rippin out of his back pocket and slapped it on the team.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I agree AIG…SD is doing another one of those second half runs again…
November 14th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Yeah that was Moon blowing that playoff game to Frank Reich.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Damn. I wanted the shut out. Lot of game left.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Lmfao!@441 haaaaaaaa.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Tyler Thigpen looked good in limited action for Miami today. Led the Fins to an 80-yard TD drive.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Hwnrdr-it is tighter but as Cable says we worry about ourselves,not what everyone else does.If we take care of business it doesn’t matter what those BELOW us do.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Aig,
I agree. SD is scary, they always get hot and Gates has been uncoverable this year. KC is going to fade, they have been exposed as the frauds they are. But if we can beat SD again, that should snuff out their chances. Cant wait to hear what all the talking heads say about KC now, the ones that said they are still the AFC west favorites and picked Haley for coach of the year.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Darayduh,
I do believe it is about coaching in Dallas. I thought they had way too much talent. A lot of the current guys made the probowl last year. I never considered Norv Turner or Wade Philips HC material, especially Wade. He was so indecisive in Buff with the Rob Johnson and that other little midget at the time.
With the right coach, they can be pretty good next year.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I guess Peyton Manning must be slowing down seeing how the Colts didn’t put much points up against this Chiefs defense.
YOu guys in your HATE for Jason Campbell hae reduced yourseles to saying that Campbell should have made the throws that Orton is making.
I am speachless
November 14th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
The Final 7… Our Season Wrap Up game by game…. http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2010/11/wrapping-up-seasonthe-forecast.html
November 14th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Troy Smith looks like a real QB, btw. Has the pocket presence that A Smith, Russell and the like will never have. Wasnt someone on this blog pushing hard for Troy Smith this offseason?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Exactly, and that is why I believe that they can…if we win the west, it will have to be what the Raiders do…not what everyone else does!
# lefty12 Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Hwnrdr-it is tighter but as Cable says we worry about ourselves,not what everyone else does.If we take care of business it doesn’t matter what those BELOW us do.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
A confident team isn’t afraid of sh1t.
We will play anyone, anytime, anyplace.
This team has swagger, they know what winning feels like now. They know what it’s like to have people talking, they know what it’s like to have a sold out coliseum. The league needs to watch out, there’s a silver mist, with a black pimp hand coming your way.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I just can’t help but think the Raiders are extremely confident. Not the kind that they can lose sight of what they need to accomplish, but the kind of confidence they need to pull W’s from any facet of their game.
And I agree too AIG, SD is not going to fold the tent, but if we can beat Pittsburgh, that becomes more of a concern to SD because they know this team is for real. I’m sure last time Norv took that same tune with him to Oakland, just figuring if he hit us hard we’d roll over. Not any more.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Guys,
Realistically, these are problem games….Pitt, @SD, Ind, and @Jax. I think we will go 2/2 in those games and prob win the other wins. I only count Jax because we are playing on the East Coast.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Darayduh,
I do believe it is about coaching in Dallas. I thought they had way too much talent. A lot of the current guys made the probowl last year. I never considered Norv Turner or Wade Philips HC material, especially Wade. He was so indecisive in Buff with the Rob Johnson and that other little midget at the time.
With the right coach, they can be pretty good next year.
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Your are such a joke. Earlier you were criticizing Campbell because he didn’t win with Pro Bowlers in D.C. I brought up Romo and his surrounding talent. You dismissed me. The reason the Redskins were terrible was because of bad management and coaching. It wasn’t because of JC. Aig, you are just sad and pathetic.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
I also think Denver will be a tough game, just on the fact that we humiliated them last time and we just cant expect that to happen again in a rivalry like this
November 14th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Darayduh,
Playing against Pitt is like playing with house money to me. We win great. We dont win no big deal. They are ranked as one of the top 3 teams in this league and we are playing at their house.
It’s the other inferior teams that MUST win.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
AB,
I tried to ignore you. You are so stupid to even bring up that argument even when I cornered you yesterday.
1. 2009 – a lot of Dallas Cowboys made the probowl and they had a winning record and playoff experience.
2. 2008 – a lot of Skins players made the probowl and they DIDNT have a winning record.
3. 2010 – Can you please predict how many Dallas Cowboys will make the probowl this year on offense? I dare you.
You see where you are stupid and got your head so far up Jason’s you know what that I try to avoid having a logical conversation with you.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Aig, why don’t you man up and admit your sad logic. You are a such a p*ssy. First, you want the Raiders to lose against Pittsburgh, now you are dodging me.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Christ almighty, not this s**t again.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
468 & 469. Exactly the approach we need, screw the rest of the league, and take what we want, and we can! We have a bunch of ” young guns” who hate to lose! “JUST KEEP WINNING BABY!”
November 14th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
No worries AB,
You proclaimed that JC is the man and will lead us to the playoffs for the next 10 years right? Time will tell. Time will tell whether you are right or not. Easy enough for me.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Aig, you just said the Cowboys have “way too much talent”. WTF do you think that means? I guess Romo must suck because the Cowboys couldn’t win this year. You sure are one illogical jack ass.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
474.aig-raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Darayduh,
Playing against Pitt is like playing with house money to me. We win great. We dont win no big deal. They are ranked as one of the top 3 teams in this league and we are playing at their house.
It’s the other inferior teams that MUST win.
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However a win in Pitt would be season defining but a loss definately does not break the season. Nice to have the chance to measure up tho.
That rotten denver team better not lose.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Aig, you have been sucking on Gradkowski’s balls way too long.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
IMHO! Pitt needs to watch out for us. They have not shown they can beat us yet. So there the team with something to prove. Especially if they lose tonight. Play our game, understand the refs will be one sided. So let’s not give them reason to throw flags. It will be loud, but nothing more then what we heard in Denver before taking the crowd out of it. Rattle big Ben finish the tackles, and not allow the midget Ward to run free.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Aig, I’m done arguing with you. It is clear you have rocks in your head.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
AB,
Why are you changing the argument? If you gonna bring it up, then stand up like a mand and defend your position. Please explain to me why Romo was able to create a winning record in the SAME year his mates made the probowl. And why JC couldnt do the same thing in the SAME year his mates made the probowl?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
AB,
You da man! Yeah bravo bro! I’ll go back to putting you on the mute button but keep on screaming though. Thanks.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Damn! Internet die hards, your both right now dry hump and make up. Geez why not talk about something you agree on if you can’t agree on the QB.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Aig, thanks for acknowledging my victory over you. I own you.
November 14th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Can somebody explain the reason the raiders have to go to pittsburgh for the second consecutive season? How does that work?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
DaRayduh,
Yeah, Pitt is going to be a very good measuring stick. The way I see it as follows.
1. Both running game will be muted due to both good defense. Pitt is only allowing 58 yds rushing per game.
2. How will JC and the offense handle the blitz?
3. Can our DB’s hold up against Ben/Ward/Wallace?
November 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
AB,
You own me. You’re great. You’re the best. Better than all the rest…..
November 14th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Aig, by the way, I don’t really think Campbell is that good. Maybe he will get better, I hope so. Grads isn’t the answer either.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
F*ck Tebow!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
There aren’t many on here that WANT to see us lose,and I doubt AIG does either.He just doesn’t like JC,just as others on here dislike other players and constantly rag on those players.Saying we will lose because Campbell is playing QB isn’t the same as saying he hopes they lose because JC is playing QB.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
AIG, We will need our +AA game from our defense and special teams, and Bush, Reece and Mac will need to run hard, the type of hard running that produces flames shooting out of the asses. Aftr burner sh1t. It will be a physical game.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
LOL, the lights went out in New York.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I must admit,I hate the Cowgirls but I love seeing them kick the NYGs arse.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Wow, backing down now after proclaiming Jason is goign to take us to the playoffs and will be our starting Qb for the next ten seasons?
November 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Wow, backing down now after proclaiming Jason is goign to take us to the playoffs and will be our starting Qb for the next ten seasons?
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Aig, I’m not backing down. I was just f*cking with you that whole time.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
I wonder if Bush ever thinks he could be getting the playing time and touches Reese is getting if he would have made the position change a couple of years ago when he was asked to due to injuries.I also have to wonder if he could have been as effective as Reese is today.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Lefty,
Thanks man. I’m done with those yoyo’s. They can say whatever they want to say. Next week will be a tough game even if Grad/boller take the helm.
DaRayduh,
There’s always the any given Sunday possibility. It will be physical. The key is how will Hue use speed and gameplan them. However, there’s nothing like revenge and you know they will be gunning for it.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
STFU AB. Will ya?
November 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Aig, LOL! I really got you good.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
49er bonus coverage!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
I guess the league will stop talking about the Giants being the nubmer 1 team. I saw them getting blown out in their home vs Tenn and couldnt understand why people thought they were #1.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
AIG, one x factor right now will be how much pain NE can lay on them tonight. I know it’s gonna be tough goin in there, but I’m a D guy and got lots of faith in our defense. Hopefully Hue sharpens his pencil and finds a weakness in pitts D and exploits it. But I do believe our ground will have to be way above average so we can score often.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
It is easy to understand-they are in New York,but rest assured there is no set coast bias-LMFAO
November 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
East coast
November 14th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
There’s been a different Media #1 Team every week since week 2.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
DaRay
I agree with you. I think our D and ground game are playing at championship levels. Can’t think of a better DL playing “rightnow”. Shonasty is playing as well as any DE in this league lately and Seymour is the best DT in the league. We’re not talking earlier this year. I can’t think of anohter RB/OL playing better than DMAC and our run blocking OL. I think you are more optimistic than me in regards to our Oline vs their Dline.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
and this sounds bad but I am hoping for a few concussions or twist of ankles tonite between pitt and NE.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
KC Queefs are who we thought they were!!!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
It is our destiny to beat Pittsburgh. Because of Gradkowski’s success last year Campbell will be on a short leash. Campbell knows this and will be uptight and ready to second guess himself. But he wont have to. DMAC will run the ball up their a$$e$.
F**K Frenchy and Franco. The creeper Roethisburger will throw two inceptions and my family and I will leave Pittsburgh chanting RAIDERS all the way back to Maryland!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
AIG-I don’t think that sounds bad,sounds pretty good to me.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
wow Raider56 sounds like a hardcore old timer?
November 14th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
hahaha lefty12…..lmao. I was feeling guilty…..
November 14th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Watching Dwayne Bowe play this season gives me hope for DHB.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
514.lefty12 Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
AIG-I don’t think that sounds bad,sounds pretty good to me.
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Bring on the pain!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Report: Fins want to work out JaMarcus Russell
Posted by Mike Florio on November 14, 2010, 6:18 PM EST
“Complete Desparation”…
November 14th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Campbell is at his best when he,as Cable says,cuts it loose.Hopefully since he knows BG is real close to being 100% he’ll cut it loose early and often and have a good game.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
since 1960!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Counting down the minutes until the Raiders are in FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 14th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
AIG-I’m from the Atkinson/Tatum school of thought.Atkinson has said they tried to hurt whoever came across the middle and knock them out of the game.Of course that was before they made this a 2 handed-touch football league.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Lefty
Atkinson is so frickin hilarious. I saw a youtube video where he is still calling Lynn Swan soft recently. And they were showing how he knocked over Lynn from behind.
Raider56,
Were we more dominant during the Stabler years or Plunkett years in your opinion? One would think Stabler right?
November 14th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
November 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
and this sounds bad but I am hoping for a few concussions or twist of ankles tonite between pitt and NE.
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I thought I was threw with you, but then you had to say something like this. Not only are you dumb, you are a low life.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
Yeah, Pitt is going to be a very good measuring stick. The way I see it as follows.
1. Both running game will be muted due to both good defense. Pitt is only allowing 58 yds rushing per game.
2. How will JC and the offense handle the blitz?
3. Can our DB’s hold up against Ben/Ward/Wallace?
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Totally agree. This looks like a real smash mouth game. I think its going to come down to whether we can make a big play on special teams or defense. Hope Henderson is back and healthy. His physicality will be a big asset in this kind of street fight.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
AIG – I have to go with Plunkett years. Two titles. First wild card team to win the super bowl. Madden was a mad man and Marcus Allen was poetry in motion. But you have to give credit to the o-line in 76 with upshaw and shell – smash mouth all the way.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
AIG-it was never even close-the Stabler years.Those teams were mean and tough.
November 14th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
The Raiders already have three big quality WRs who can catch the ball: Zach Miller, Schillens and Marcel Reese. DHB is big, but cannot catch the ball. Reese is not officially a WR, but as a fullback, he can have the same effect.