ESPN: Kiffin grievance denied
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 15th, 2010 at 10:18 am in Oakland Raiders.
ESPN is reporting that an arbitrator has denied former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin $2.6 million in back pay.
Heading over to the facility soon. Working to confirm . . .
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November 15th, 2010 at 10:18 am
foist!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Trade Jon Condo for Trot Smith!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Tercero
November 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
MR will be upset
November 15th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Kiffin has some nerve wanting $$ after jilting Tennessee for USC $$$. Glad he got nada.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:21 am
I lobbied for Troy Smith too. Many in here told me I was a few french fries short of a happy meal.
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trade Nick Miller for a happy meal!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:21 am
505.BigTed707 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Raiders! First place and on the hottest streak in the AFC!
Tom Cable = COY!
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Let me correct you….Hue Jackson = COY!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:21 am
The raiders train is running out control just like that new Denzel movie….Steeler fans get out your terrible napkins cause we coming to play smash mouth football!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:23 am
# mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:22 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:12 am
I lobbied for Troy Smith when the Raven’s were messing with him. No one wanted him.
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You were right I followed him since college, he has always been way under rated.
Every one wants to know what a “Campkowski” would look like? Well he play for the niners.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Mistic,
Is true that Troy Smith is Filipino?
November 15th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Every one wants to know what a “Campkowski” would look like? Well he play for the niners.
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Mistic,
JCamp > midget smith
Print That!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:25 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:21 am
I lobbied for Troy Smith too. Many in here told me I was a few french fries short of a happy meal.
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trade Nick Miller for a happy meal!
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W/ the toy or w/out?
November 15th, 2010 at 10:26 am
W/ the toy or w/out?
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no toy required in the happy meal unless you throw in Eugene!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:26 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Mistic,
Is true that Troy Smith is Filipino?
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Only thing i know about this kid is what i have seen from him on gameday on the field, college and pro. He is incredible. He would have looked good in silver and black as well.
Oakland and Sf are pretty solid right now at qb.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FK the Whiners and Troy Smith. He doesn’t play for the Silver and Black. So fk them!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:28 am
I can only imagine how good our running game would be with a real fullback. Love Reece but he misses too many lead blocks
November 15th, 2010 at 10:28 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Every one wants to know what a “Campkowski” would look like? Well he play for the niners.
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Mistic,
JCamp > midget smith
Print That!
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These are the same guys, just different method to the way they lead. They are both more than capable of getting the job done.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Next up, Shanarat supporters will bring up that AD owes him $250,000. Per Amy Trask, the amount was reduced to around $36,000 and they refused to pay because he commited perjury.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:29 am
We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana …
I wish Troy Smith was in there sooner, hard to imagine him carving us up any worse.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:32 am
LUNCH!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:32 am
SharkCatcher Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:28 am
I can only imagine how good our running game would be with a real fullback.
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I can only imagine how good our passing game would be with a real QB.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Midget Smith? He is 6′0 tall you know.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
HA!!!
Go F yourself Lance.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I put on my DHB jersey on Halloween, and went as the “invisible man”.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
# DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FK the Whiners and Troy Smith. He doesn’t play for the Silver and Black. So fk them!
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you have to forgive me bra, there was a time in these parts where plunkett and montana were trading superbowl wins. I haven’t seen this kind of qb play since the early eighties around here. This is a lot of fun for alot of people here in the bay.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I want $2.6 million for having to watch the Raiders lose 80 games in 7 years.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:34 am
you have to forgive me bra
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You sound like an Irish chick I dated once…
November 15th, 2010 at 10:34 am
# mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
# DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FK the Whiners and Troy Smith. He doesn’t play for the Silver and Black. So fk them!
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you have to forgive me bra, there was a time in these parts where plunkett and montana were trading superbowl wins. I haven’t seen this kind of qb play since the early eighties around here. This is a lot of fun for alot of people here in the bay.
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I hear you, but I could care less for the Whiners and their players. Just saying tho.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:35 am
25.mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
# DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FK the Whiners and Troy Smith. He doesn’t play for the Silver and Black. So fk them!
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you have to forgive me bra, there was a time in these parts where plunkett and montana were trading superbowl wins. I haven’t seen this kind of qb play since the early eighties around here. This is a lot of fun for alot of people here in the bay.
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I guess you missed the Garcia-Gannon era.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:38 am
bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I lobbied for Troy Smith too. Many in here told me I was a few french fries short of a happy meal.
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I was in the I want us to get Troy smith camp also…As i remeber took a lot of heat from some of the semi pros in the morning crew….
What say you now morning bandwagoners????
November 15th, 2010 at 10:39 am
This blog is hilarious. Now JC and Troy are the best thing since Plunkett & Montana? LMAO!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Note to Lance, dont ever try legal matters with AD. You’re trying to con the con artist himself.
Note to the Troy Smith haters (and I know a specific one on this blog from this offseason). Troy Smith put the team on his back repeatedly yesteday, and in 2 games did what Alex Smith and JaPuke couldnt do in a combined 12 years and 15 OC’s.
Have a good day.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Lance needs the money to ‘pay’ for some more talent as USC…
Just Litigate Baby!
Al is on a ROLL…
November 15th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Troy Smith had a QB rating of 159.7 at Ohio ST. but his stock went down when the Buckeyes were demolished by Florida in the 2007 BCS game. The opposite of JaMarcus’s stock going up because of 1 BCS performance.
He won the Heisman and McFadden finished 2nd. 2 game QB raing this year of 116.6 not too shabby. Much superior QB to J.C.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:41 am
No matter though D wins championships… Troy Smith, denzel washington, J Campbell doesnt really matter who you put in…Our D will hold until we do score….
November 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Wassup w/ everybody wanting credit for schit they said? If thats the case……..
I wanted to draft Aaron Rogers a few years back, and knew he would be great and better than A. Smith. Oh fk’n well.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Wassup w/ everybody wanting credit for schit they said? If thats the case……..
I wanted to draft Aaron Rogers a few years back, and knew he would be great and better than A. Smith. Oh fk’n well.
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good for you…. Keep up the good work…
November 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:35 am
25.mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
# DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FK the Whiners and Troy Smith. He doesn’t play for the Silver and Black. So fk them!
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you have to forgive me bra, there was a time in these parts where plunkett and montana were trading superbowl wins. I haven’t seen this kind of qb play since the early eighties around here. This is a lot of fun for alot of people here in the bay.
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I guess you missed the Garcia-Gannon era.
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I never have considered gannon or a Garcia great players, nor have i ever seen them as qbs that could win a superbowl.
I thought they were limited journeymen qb’s, with extreme competitive fire and grit. However they were both more or less workmen like overachievers, that made up for their lack of star talent. Even though gannon and garcia are way ahead of smith and campbell in terms of nfl achievement, i believe that smith and campbell have the potential to be better qb’s than the former.
There is no question in my mind that cambell and smith are far more naturally talented than the former, and Campbell’s career 6 years in is already ahead of both garcia and gannon at the same points in their career.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:50 am
38.mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:35 am
25.mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
# DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
FK the Whiners and Troy Smith. He doesn’t play for the Silver and Black. So fk them!
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you have to forgive me bra, there was a time in these parts where plunkett and montana were trading superbowl wins. I haven’t seen this kind of qb play since the early eighties around here. This is a lot of fun for alot of people here in the bay.
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I guess you missed the Garcia-Gannon era.
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I never have considered gannon or a Garcia great players, nor have i ever seen them as qbs that could win a superbowl.
I thought they were limited journeymen qb’s, with extreme competitive fire and grit. However they were both more or less workmen like overachievers, that made up for their lack of star talent. Even though gannon and garcia are way ahead of smith and campbell in terms of nfl achievement, i believe that smith and campbell have the potential to be better qb’s than the former.
There is no question in my mind that cambell and smith are far more naturally talented than the former, and Campbell’s career 6 years in is already ahead of both garcia and gannon at the same points in their career.
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LMAO
Dude too funny!
November 15th, 2010 at 10:50 am
The Big Banana Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:39 am
This blog is hilarious. Now JC and Troy are the best thing since Plunkett & Montana? LMAO
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Just Troy Smith. He has more heart and skill than J.C. He has that natural football skill and ability that will elevate him to the next level. What you see in Campbell is all that’s there. No upside. Smith can take it to the next level. The kid he beat out at OSU Justin Zwick was supposedly the next great QB. Ranked #1 as a high school prospect. But Tressel realized what he could do after Zwick got injured. Originally Troy was a red shirt RB and kick-returner.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
We could have gotten SMITH for free… However i will ride with JC…He is going to keep improving…
November 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
None of these current Bay Area qbs will ever approach the type of years Garcia or Gannon put up at the begining of this century.
Sorry to break the news to you mistic.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Raiders 42 – stilers 17
November 15th, 2010 at 10:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Every one wants to know what a “Campkowski” would look like? Well he play for the niners.
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when did the 49ers sign the Great Juice Campkowski???
A clandestine Al Davis science experiment to blend the fire, passion, and leadership of a true competitor with the uber-athletic body of the purest downfield passer in decades has yielded a true accomplishment in the fields of science and sport.
However, Al Davis has just lost a grievance to pay Juice one salary instead of the combined salaries of Gradkowski and Campbell.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I’m going to give Troy Smith the same treatment that people said (and maybe rightfully) about Bruce Gradkowski.
Once defenses have some game-film on him, they can plan accordingly and he will be toast.
Beating the Broncos is no strong feat, and his game at home against the Rams was about as well as Bruce would have played if you double his one half.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Nnamdi, J Henderson, Z Miller
2 of these 3 need to play vs. Pittsburgh for us to win
November 15th, 2010 at 10:59 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:50 am
The Big Banana Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:39 am
This blog is hilarious. Now JC and Troy are the best thing since Plunkett & Montana? LMAO
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Just Troy Smith. He has more heart and skill than J.C. He has that natural football skill and ability that will elevate him to the next level. What you see in Campbell is all that’s there. No upside. Smith can take it to the next level. The kid he beat out at OSU Justin Zwick was supposedly the next great QB. Ranked #1 as a high school prospect. But Tressel realized what he could do after Zwick got injured. Originally Troy was a red shirt RB and kick-returner.
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Smith and campbells on the field results are the same, they just have different styles.
Smith is all fire, more sizzle and more of a gunslinger.
Campbell is more of a poker faced silent leader. He is not a high wire type act, but instead a well schooled technician and excellent managing the game and making plays when you need them.
They are both pocket passers that can make every throw, pick apart the defense, and make plays when things break down. Both lead you to a win from behind, or blow your doors off.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:59 am
LOL. Some serious propaganda being thrown around in here. All I know is that JC needs to make sure to take DMAC and the entire defense out to dinner. Oh, don’t forget to invite Jacoby Ford too.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Mistic,
Did you just say that Troy Smith and Jason Campbell are better that Jeff Garcia and Rich Gannon?
The only thing separating them is statistical achievement?
This has just gone into the deep end of the deep end.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Garcia
2002 328 528 62.1 3,344 21 10
2001 316 504 62.7 3,538 32 12
2000 355 561 63.3 4,278 31 10
Gannon
2002 418 618 67.6 4,689 26 10
2001 361 549 65.8 3,828 27 9
2000 284 473 60.0 3,430 28 11
1999 304 515 59.0 3,840 24 14
November 15th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Raiders 42 – pittsburgh 17
November 15th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Mistic1′
………..Smith and campbells on the field results are the same, they just have different styles.
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Smith has the confidence of a leader the gunslinger. Campbell is afraid to pull the trigger.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
all fire, more sizzle
not a high wire type act
a poker faced silent leader
blow your doors off
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Mistic, lay off the metaphors! That was from one small post!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Campbell is more of a poker faced silent leader. He is not a high wire type act, but instead a well schooled technician and excellent managing the game and making plays when you need them.
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A cold, calculating Field General with unmatched prowess and an unbelievable winning record, passed over by Pro Bowl selection do to bias against his Greatness and cat-like reflexes by haters who will quiver and be reduced to ash as they are laid to waste by his WRATH!!!!!!!!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
# Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
None of these current Bay Area qbs will ever approach the type of years Garcia or Gannon put up at the begining of this century.
Sorry to break the news to you mistic.
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Gannon had a run of two years that produced numbers out of this world. He was in a pass happy offense on a halo of fame performer laden team.
Im not saying Smith or campbell will beat his numbers during those magik seasons.
Im saying that Campbell and Smith if given the opportunity will have better careers than both garcia and gannon. They will post better career totals, and tally more wins in their careers, then garcia and gannon.
I think both qb’s are good enough for a team to build around, and both could lead a team to super bowl glory one day.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
So why all the sudden you guys want to blow troy smith?( well i know hes a niner but come on) he hasnt done squat. so he had a couple pathetic wins thanx to the refs. you watch, it wont last.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Free Charles Rangel!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:08 am
This has just gone into the deep end of the deep end.
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LOL. Enjoy it. Pure comedy.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Whatever happened to FattKidd?
And Male Cheerleader??
November 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Halo of Fame? You must be talking about Danny Southwick…
November 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
33-17 Raiders
November 15th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Okay get back to the important game…
RAIDERS WILL DISMANTLE picksburg…IT WILL BE A BLOWOUT…. 42 – 17…..
November 15th, 2010 at 11:11 am
BEN RAPISTBURGER WILL GET SACKED 7 TIMES….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:12 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:59 am
Mistic,
Did you just say that Troy Smith and Jason Campbell are better that Jeff Garcia and Rich Gannon?
The only thing separating them is statistical achievement?
This has just gone into the deep end of the deep end.
# Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Garcia
2002 328 528 62.1 3,344 21 10
2001 316 504 62.7 3,538 32 12
2000 355 561 63.3 4,278 31 10
Gannon
2002 418 618 67.6 4,689 26 10
2001 361 549 65.8 3,828 27 9
2000 284 473 60.0 3,430 28 11
1999 304 515 59.0 3,840 24 14
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Great numbers. These guys earned it the hard way, on guts and gusto.
Campbell and Smith have natural athletic gifts that garcia and gannon did not have. I also think jc and smith will be just as adept reading the defense, and executing an offense as efficiently as gannon, with time in 1 system.
People may disagree but time is the greatest teacher. We can revisit this in a few years
November 15th, 2010 at 11:12 am
This game will be the statement game for any mediots that beleive the NATION is a fluke….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:12 am
All remaining games have the potential to be dogfights.
Even with injuries considered, all remaining opponents are tough, even Denver.
Again, it pains me to say I hope Denver beats SD next Monday.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Even with injuries considered, all remaining opponents are tough, even Denver.
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dont count anyone out…Any given sunday…
However this sunday will be a blow out….
Nation will dismatle pickburg….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
those scores you all are predicting are a bit much dont ya think? i see it more like 21 to 13 type game. who ever can run it will win.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
35-24 Steelers
Hope I am wrong!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Mistic, you don’t think Garcia was much of an athlete?
Didn’t think he could buy time and throw on the run? Didn’t think he averaged about 25 yards a game in his Pro Bowl years?
How bout Gannon in that 2000 season where we led the league in rushing? 33 yards a game. 11 rushing TDs while in Silver and Black.
No, they weren’t Mike Vick, but to say they were pure pocket passers is just ridiculous.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:18 am
when did the 49ers sign the Great Juice Campkowski???
A clandestine Al Davis science experiment to blend the fire, passion, and leadership of a true competitor with the uber-athletic body of the purest downfield passer in decades has yielded a true accomplishment in the fields of science and sport.
However, Al Davis has just lost a grievance to pay Juice one salary instead of the combined salaries of Gradkowski and Campbell.
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hahahhahaha….thats a good one Bro….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I was lobbying for Troy Smith or Drew Stanton and Megatron the year we drafted Jamarkass…..Imagine having Calvin Johnson in the first round and Troy Smith in the 4th.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:18 am
After Sunday night’s loss to the Patriots, Hines Ward (concussion) insisted he will play in Week 11.
Ward said he would have gone back in the game last night, but medical personnel would not allow it. And even though he fully expects to play against the Texans, he’ll have to pass a series of cognitive tests before being cleared. Ward is not a lock to suit up against the Texans. Nov. 15 – 8:13 am et
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Texans?????
November 15th, 2010 at 11:20 am
72.severeraiderz Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I was lobbying for Troy Smith or Drew Stanton and Megatron the year we drafted Jamarkass…..Imagine having Calvin Johnson in the first round and Troy Smith in the 4th.
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Too bad we didn’t pull off the Aaron Rogers trade that year…Rodgers at QB + Calvin Johnson or Peterson drafted #1. Kiffin would still be coaching us lol.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:21 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
all fire, more sizzle
not a high wire type act
a poker faced silent leader
blow your doors off
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Mistic, lay off the metaphors! That was from one small post!
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Campbell is more of a poker faced silent leader. He is not a high wire type act, but instead a well schooled technician and excellent managing the game and making plays when you need them.
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A cold, calculating Field General with unmatched prowess and an unbelievable winning record, passed over by Pro Bowl selection do to bias against his Greatness and cat-like reflexes by haters who will quiver and be reduced to ash as they are laid to waste by his WRATH!!!!!!!!
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Dont be upset fellas, my boys in college and the pros are , had a huge weekend. The folks that say I dont know qb talent, my favorite players, and my favorite team is pissing on their pillow case, and i love it.
David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
35-24 Steelers
Hope I am wrong!
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come on man…Have some faith ….the D is top 7 overall… Have shut down the run against some pretty good foes…Put up 23 pts in one half aqainst KC after being blanked….
The emergence of JFORD who will be RON, and in the running for ROY….LMURPHY will be back….
Our D is way better than NE…..Rapist will be sacked several times, he is going to be hit and hit often…
ZMILL, NAM21
November 15th, 2010 at 11:22 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Next up, Shanarat supporters will bring up that AD owes him $250,000. Per Amy Trask, the amount was reduced to around $36,000 and they refused to pay because he commited perjury.
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I read somewhere that Shanahan doesnt further pursue the matter because there was some type of weird deal that would lead to him owing Al several thousands of dollars
November 15th, 2010 at 11:23 am
27-20 Raiders. Nnamdi picks off Roethlisberger’s last second Hail Mary. Print it.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I always liked Troy Smith, but he hasn’t really done anything to warrant the assumption he’ll have a better career than Garcia/Gannon.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
r8eray Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:18 am
After Sunday night’s loss to the Patriots, Hines Ward (concussion) insisted he will play in Week 11.
Ward said he would have gone back in the game last night, but medical personnel would not allow it. And even though he fully expects to play against the Texans, he’ll have to pass a series of cognitive tests before being cleared. Ward is not a lock to suit up against the Texans. Nov. 15 – 8:13 am et
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Texans?????
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hahahahhahaa….thats just like the clow mike greenburg from mike and mike in the morning….Dude says San diego is the biggest winner over the week end becuase KC, and OAK both lost….what an IDIOT…
November 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Greenburg is an idiot. Putting him on MNF was a disaster.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am
He initially won a grievance against Davis for $250,000, but that was overturned after it was proven that Shanahan was paid that money in advance as a loan.
Read more: http://www.rateitall.com/i-66541-al-davis-oakland-raiders.aspx#ixzz15NfbY9VK
November 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Mistic, you don’t think Garcia was much of an athlete?
Didn’t think he could buy time and throw on the run? Didn’t think he averaged about 25 yards a game in his Pro Bowl years?
How bout Gannon in that 2000 season where we led the league in rushing? 33 yards a game. 11 rushing TDs while in Silver and Black.
No, they weren’t Mike Vick, but to say they were pure pocket passers is just ridiculous.
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I have no question that garcia and gannon were very good athletes. gannon was dratfed as a safety and early in his career he was more known for his scrambling than as a passer. He was a bit turnover prone before ending up with the raiders.
Garcia was at his best outside of the pocket, and made his nfl living by his mobility.
neither gannon or garcia have the huge arms the smith and Campbell have. Smith and campbell can make throws in the pocket and on the move that garcia and gannon couldnt dream of making. Simply because they didnt have that kind of arm.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Will the Raiders face JaMarcus Russell in a Dolphins uniform?
November 15th, 2010 at 11:28 am
BenJarvus Green-Ellis, a mediocre back at best, had a 4.8 yards/carry average last night and caught 4 balls for 36 yards. DMac ought to at least be able to equal that!
Every year in the second half of the season, I hear people complaining about the age of their D-line and how they start to wear down in games/get injured. Seems it’s happening again this year.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Raider75 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Will the Raiders face JaMarcus Russell in a Dolphins uniform?
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We can only hope.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:28 am
2 weeks off to gameplan for the stillirs….
Hue Jack shows us a new wrinkle every week….
Look for us to spread picksburg really thin whit 4 wr’s sets…. picksburg is going to have some problems matching up against all this raider speed…Jcampbell is trusting the WR’s more..Chaz S…..oh wait, LMURPHY will be back…We should put more points on the board than NE put up….minimum of 42……
November 15th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
35-24 Steelers
Hope I am wrong!
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come on man…Have some faith ….the D is top 7 overall… Have shut down the run against some pretty good foes…Put up 23 pts in one half aqainst KC after being blanked….
The emergence of JFORD who will be RON, and in the running for ROY….LMURPHY will be back….
Our D is way better than NE…..Rapist will be sacked several times, he is going to be hit and hit often…
ZMILL, NAM21
Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
35-24 Steelers
Hope I am wrong!
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come on man…Have some faith ….the D is top 7 overall… Have shut down the run against some pretty good foes…Put up 23 pts in one half aqainst KC after being blanked….
The emergence of JFORD who will be RON, and in the running for ROY….LMURPHY will be back….
Our D is way better than NE…..Rapist will be sacked several times, he is going to be hit and hit often…
ZMILL, NAM21
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I was hoping that pittsburgh beat NE and that they did it in a tough physical game and played us on a short week nice and beat up. They were out physicaled on Sunday and there is no way that Tomlin isgoing to let that happen again.
Harrisson is a bad muthaf*cka and Polamalu will be trying to make a point. They are leaders of that D and we will have to do a of passing against that 3-4. Polamalu will be ready to make a hit on a TE or a WR over the middle and after seeing Veldheer struggle with Hali, I dont have too much confidence in him against 92. We are gonna need another WR to step up like DHB did week 8 and Ford did week 9, is Murphy gonna be back???
November 15th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Pitts run D is not the same w/ out Aaron Smith. + Kiesel been injured too
DMAC will have 100+ rushing yds w/ 2 TD
November 15th, 2010 at 11:30 am
I have no question that garcia and gannon were very good athletes. gannon was dratfed as a safety and early in his career he was more known for his scrambling than as a passer. He was a bit turnover prone before ending up with the raiders.
Garcia was at his best outside of the pocket, and made his nfl living by his mobility.
neither gannon or garcia have the huge arms the smith and Campbell have. Smith and campbell can make throws in the pocket and on the move that garcia and gannon couldnt dream of making. Simply because they didnt have that kind of arm.
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Yeah, but its the gray matter in between their ears and the intangible qualities that nobody seems to care about that makes the difference.
Arm strength/height/speed does not equal good QB.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:30 am
# Raider75 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Will the Raiders face JaMarcus Russell in a Dolphins uniform?
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Imma be praying that they sign JaDrank and Richard Seymour knocks Thigpen out of the game on the first play in 2 weeks and the Walrus has to come in.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Raider75 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Will the Raiders face JaMarcus Russell in a Dolphins uniform?
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thigpen, then BRL…BRL gets in the game we will have 12 sacks….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Next week keys to victory… On D we need strong pressure up the middle. Little Ben is pretty good at moving up in the pocket. Rush four, drop seven.
On O, Campbell HAS to get the ball out quicker or else they will be all over him. Brady exposed the steelers weak secondary last night.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:31 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:30 am
# Raider75 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Will the Raiders face JaMarcus Russell in a Dolphins uniform?
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Imma be praying that they sign JaDrank and Richard Seymour knocks Thigpen out of the game on the first play in 2 weeks and the Walrus has to come in.
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Sweet scenario!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:32 am
I’ll feel a lot better about the game if ZMiller is back. Steelers had no answer for Rob Gronkowski last night.
Patriots used a lot of jumbo sets with Crumpler and Gronkowski too. They didn’t even use their talented pass catching rookie TE, Hernandez because he’s not big enough for what they were doing. I see the same thing happening here. Get used to the ref saying that Khalif Barnes has reported eligible because it’ll happen a lot.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:33 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
The Pats did to the Steelers what the Raiders need to do to the Steelers…beat ‘em at their own game. They beat ‘em up.
There isn’t a D-line in the NFL any tougher than the tough-as-nails stout Raiders’ D-line right now…and our #2’s on that line are playing as well as most of the starters in the League.
The Raiders front 4+ will wreak havoc on Big Ben, while the downfield coverage will be tight. Stop Mendenhall from looking like LT2, and the Steelers won’t score 17 points.
I fully EXPECT the Defense to show up in Pittsburgh. I EXPECT our running game to dominate. I really, really HOPE the passing Offense shows up. The passing game must click…a lot sooner (and sharper) than it did a week ago.
We want the lead early in Pitt…and and even bigger lead…to squeeze the emotion right out of them and their fans.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:34 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I always liked Troy Smith, but he hasn’t really done anything to warrant the assumption he’ll have a better career than Garcia/Gannon.
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I couldnt dis agree more. Smith was one of the best qb’s in college football during his final two seasons, posting insane numbers and big time wins. He of course finished with the Heisman and a start for the national championship.
Yes he deserved( although underrated) his draft status, and his play early in his pro career, combined with his college career look like he is a special talent. he is off to a better start than those two.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:34 am
SilverNBlackPA
I agree.
I appreciate the Patriots giving us some good film.
Pittsburgh will be pissed though, want to come out swinging. Hopefully the extra time will allow our coaches to cook some things up.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
We are gonna need another WR to step up like DHB did week 8 and Ford did week 9, is Murphy gonna be back???
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DHB WR
JFORD WR
ZMILL will play….
LMURPHY WR will play….
DMAC will split wide with MBUSH in backfield…
Reece will also split wide…..
JLH has been making plays when he gets tagets….
NMILLER needs to see the field at WR…
We have more than enough moving parts to spread them out…..
I would contend Jcampbell has more weopons than tom brady, and its not even close….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Greenburg is a SD homer. What a tool. T jackson thinks the donkeys are turning a corner whatever that means… I hope we win it all just so all the crow eating haters will all have to bend down and kiss the ring
November 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Wouldn’t it be sweet if the Steelers spend so much time gameplanning to stop the pass, since that was how they got demolished last night, they don’t prepare enough for DMac and he goes off for 100+
November 15th, 2010 at 11:35 am
I couldnt dis agree more. Smith was one of the best qb’s in college football during his final two seasons, posting insane numbers and big time wins
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So was Ryan Leaf, what’s your point? I mean in the NFL.
Great college players are hit or miss in the NFL.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:36 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:30 am
I have no question that garcia and gannon were very good athletes. gannon was dratfed as a safety and early in his career he was more known for his scrambling than as a passer. He was a bit turnover prone before ending up with the raiders.
Garcia was at his best outside of the pocket, and made his nfl living by his mobility.
neither gannon or garcia have the huge arms the smith and Campbell have. Smith and campbell can make throws in the pocket and on the move that garcia and gannon couldnt dream of making. Simply because they didnt have that kind of arm.
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Yeah, but its the gray matter in between their ears and the intangible qualities that nobody seems to care about that makes the difference.
Arm strength/height/speed does not equal good QB.
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The guys that we have out here have that part covered and then some.
Quality leaders excellent teammates that get it done the right way. Their intelligence or leadership ability can be questioned. this is another reason this is so sweet.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Defensive gameplan: relentless pass rush, don’t neglect Mendenhall, and hope Routt can hang with Mike Wallace.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Just bought a DMac jersey to wear to the game Sunday!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I can’t figure out who is more excited about Troy Smith … Raider fans or 49er fans ???
November 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I am not worried about what pickburg is going to do…
we have all of the tools to dominate picksburg…
picksburg stillirs need to worry about the RAIDERS….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Quality leaders excellent teammates that get it done the right way. Their intelligence or leadership ability can be questioned. this is another reason this is so sweet.
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Unless you’re in the locker room with the team, I don’t see how you can say that Campbell is a leader. Some people ar very obvious leaders and some may be more quiet. Being that Campbell is not an obvious leader, I guess you have some additional info.
He makes some good throws but he also makes some pretty poor ones and doesn’t change plays, doesn’t really dissect the defense. Go back and watch the KC game.
I appreciate that you like the guy and we all want him to win, he’s just not what you want him to be. He has potential.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Toddler Smith beat the Donks & Rams …
hey uh guys, so did we!
you know that team we beat by 30 points?
the Seahacks are still 1st place in that division
November 15th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Screw Troy Smith, he ain’t here and he won’t be.
I would say let’s talk about Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski, but I think we’ve all had enough of THAT discussion.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:40 am
the stillirs are going to gsmeplan to stop the run…
Thats what they do, very well…
Hue Jack will have some suprises waiting for them….
Dont wonder what this weeks new wrinkle will be NE just showed you….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I am not worried about what pickburg is going to do…
we have all of the tools to dominate picksburg…
picksburg stillirs need to worry about the RAIDERS….
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The fact that pitt is now so beat up in the linebacker spot gives me a little more confidence in the o-line to keep campbell clean. How ever i still think this is the match up the gives me the most concern.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I’m rooting for all 53 raiders and the dudes on the practice squad. I’m fine leaving it at that.
If Campbell and the Raiders win the Super Bowl, he can come piss on my pillow.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:42 am
For all you workout types:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003VC8TUM/uncrate-20
November 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am
mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I am not worried about what pickburg is going to do…
we have all of the tools to dominate picksburg…
picksburg stillirs need to worry about the RAIDERS….
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The fact that pitt is now so beat up in the linebacker spot gives me a little more confidence in the o-line to keep campbell clean. How ever i still think this is the match up the gives me the most concern.
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spread um out…. we have waayyy more options to spread them out than any team in the NFL…Bar none…
I would be shocked if it is close….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Hue Jack, kept Tom Cable employed….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:44 am
If Campbell and the Raiders win the Super Bowl, he can come piss on my pillow.
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LMAO, preach it.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:45 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:38 am
I can’t figure out who is more excited about Troy Smith … Raider fans or 49er fans ???
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Thank you.
I don’t know whats all this fuss about Smith.
Fk him and the Whiners.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:45 am
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Higgins, Zmiller
McFadden & Reece out of the backfield
Pittsburgh wont have an answer for us.
ground & pound DMAC & Bush every once and again…
play action JCamp bombs downfield = points!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:46 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Quality leaders excellent teammates that get it done the right way. Their intelligence or leadership ability can be questioned. this is another reason this is so sweet.
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Unless you’re in the locker room with the team, I don’t see how you can say that Campbell is a leader. Some people ar very obvious leaders and some may be more quiet. Being that Campbell is not an obvious leader, I guess you have some additional info.
He makes some good throws but he also makes some pretty poor ones and doesn’t change plays, doesn’t really dissect the defense. Go back and watch the KC game.
I appreciate that you like the guy and we all want him to win, he’s just not what you want him to be. He has potential.
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When you win the way these guys have done it, coming from behind, plus campbells blow out wins, make him a leader in the locker room. The players and the owner now know that he can lead them to victory, this is leadership.
Chris cooly said that campbell was a team leader in washington. Gibbs was impressed with campbell leadership ability when he drafted him out of auburn, where he was also a team leader.
This is not inside information.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:49 am
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am
mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
I am not worried about what pickburg is going to do…
we have all of the tools to dominate picksburg…
picksburg stillirs need to worry about the RAIDERS….
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The fact that pitt is now so beat up in the linebacker spot gives me a little more confidence in the o-line to keep campbell clean. How ever i still think this is the match up the gives me the most concern.
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spread um out…. we have waayyy more options to spread them out than any team in the NFL…Bar none…
I would be shocked if it is close….
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That would be sweet, four reciever sets. Plus having dmac and reece, we can create some real match up problems for that banged up defense.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:49 am
The other Troy — the Safety in Pittsburgh — is more important to the Raiders immediate future than that guy across the Bay.
There is a major reason why Troy Polamalu isn’t showing up on as many highlights right now…he’s getting a little long-in-the-tooth. He’s not gonna fly all over the place with as much energy and speed as in years past (effort notwithstanding). More than ever, he needs his own front-7 to bring the havoc on Offenses, so he can be in position to make the play… Troy’s not “creating” the big play every game like he once could.
He’s still as good as it gets, but he can be (and is) beaten more than one would think, based on his great reputation. Speed kills…especially when it starts to diminish.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I think its pretty simple this weekend. DMAC will get his yds. The D-line is going to punish Burger.
Campbell will do just enough to get it done.
All we need to do is pick up their blitzes and we will be fine.
Raiders 24-13
November 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:45 am
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Higgins, Zmiller
McFadden & Reece out of the backfield
Pittsburgh wont have an answer for us.
ground & pound DMAC & Bush every once and again…
play action JCamp bombs downfield = points!
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Preach Rev Rock….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:49 am
The other Troy — the Safety in Pittsburgh — is more important to the Raiders immediate future than that guy across the Bay.
There is a major reason why Troy Polamalu isn’t showing up on as many highlights right now…he’s getting a little long-in-the-tooth. He’s not gonna fly all over the place with as much energy and speed as in years past (effort notwithstanding). More than ever, he needs his own front-7 to bring the havoc on Offenses, so he can be in position to make the play… Troy’s not “creating” the big play every game like he once could.
He’s still as good as it gets, but he can be (and is) beaten more than one would think, based on his great reputation. Speed kills…especially when it starts to diminish.
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pitts front seven is really knicked up. There is a drop off when they arent healthy.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:52 am
JCamp is only human and he’s under the 10th play caller in 10 years or whatever it’s been …
so what if he struggled out of the gate for the first 1 1/2 games?
have you SEEN our passing game the past 3 years?
It’s going to take time for these guys to gel.
not just the QB & WR’s. the play caller & O-Line included
JCamp seems to have the confidence of his coaches & teammates.
He’s played well for 4 of his last 5 games and when he didn’t (SF) … we didn’t have McFadden at RB or Veldheer at LT
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him shred the Squeelers secondary on Sunday. 300 yards & 3 TD’s
November 15th, 2010 at 11:53 am
to be honest, i am looking past this game to the miami game…this game will wake up the rest of the world who hasnt caught on yet….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Sacks prediction……..
I say at least 5
Seymour-1
Shonasty-2
Houston-1
Mcclain-1
November 15th, 2010 at 11:55 am
miami poses a better threat as they have more offensive weopons….Shot of having a real qb we should be able to dismantle them at home….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:56 am
DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Sacks prediction……..
I say at least 5
Seymour-1
Shonasty-2
Houston-1
Mcclain-1
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I say 7 minimum…. we dont let QB’s get away that often…the rapitburger may even leave on a golf cart….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
The burger is a little elusive though. Tha’ts why I went w/ at least 5.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
the biggest key to the miami game will be how Hue wants to dismantle them, run or pass….
November 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I think it would be a major mistake to look past the Steelers.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:58 am
There is a major reason why Troy Polamalu isn’t showing up on as many highlights right now…he’s getting a little long-in-the-tooth. He’s not gonna fly all over the place with as much energy and speed as in years past (effort notwithstanding).
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I don’t know if it’s that he’s a little long in the tooth (he’s 29), but that injuries, particularly to the knee, are starting to pile up. In 2006, 2007 and 2009, he missed a combined 19 games because of knee injuries. That’s gonna slow anyone down.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:58 am
If our O line and D line can continue to work the opponents over, our skill positions are too much speed for the backfield to cover. They have to pick thier poison. I see Polamalu is guessing more these days. The way to kill his agressiveness is play head games with him and cross up his reads. If only to put a stutter in his step.
We get this team on its heels, the big guys up front will have them skidding backwards on roller skates.
The Steelers eyes will be wide as coasters as they walk meekly up to the line bewildered, confused, beaten, and swearing at the themselves.
November 15th, 2010 at 11:58 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:52 am
JCamp is only human and he’s under the 10th play caller in 10 years or whatever it’s been …
so what if he struggled out of the gate for the first 1 1/2 games?
have you SEEN our passing game the past 3 years?
It’s going to take time for these guys to gel.
not just the QB & WR’s. the play caller & O-Line included
JCamp seems to have the confidence of his coaches & teammates.
He’s played well for 4 of his last 5 games and when he didn’t (SF) … we didn’t have McFadden at RB or Veldheer at LT
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him shred the Squeelers secondary on Sunday. 300 yards & 3 TD’s
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Wow
November 15th, 2010 at 11:59 am
rapitburger may even leave on a golf cart….
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he’s going to get hit, A TON
Wimbley, Scott and a safety might even get in on the party!
November 15th, 2010 at 11:59 am
All summer long I was saying Troy Smith was a steal for a 5th round pick. I guess we now know that there was some merit there. SF now has their franchise QB. His only shortcoming was that he’s short (6′0″) by NFL standards but more than makes up for it with his other skills. Isn’t he he same height at Drew Brees? I guess that’s not that large of a handicap. Oh yes, I made that point earlier too. The Niners are now relevant and can make a run at the playoffs. Alex Smith will be # 2 forever going forward.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I think it would be a major mistake to look past the Steelers.
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typically yeah, but as a member of the NATION base I have the ability to forge ahead look past a team and not impact the final outcome….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Gotta figure Seymour, Kelly and Shonasty will each get a sack. I’ll put Huff down for one on a safety blitz too.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Wanting JCampbell (or Grads) to play as well as Gannon did 8-yrs ago??
As much as Gannon’s no lifetime Raider, and never will be…he gave us, and the NFL, a stretch of 2+ years of QB play that was about as good as it got at the position. Give THIS team Pro Bowl QB play like that, and they’ll be in the Playoffs for the next 5-years.
Gannon proved (like a number of others) that you don’t need the cannon arm to be successful…anything stronger than Matt Leinart’s arm will do…as long as you’re smart, timely, and accurate with the ball.
We NEED smart, timely, and accurate throws from our QB…something JCampbell needs to bring right from the first drive this week.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Who gives a flying FFFF about the suckyniners????
Troy Smith can eat a Raiders ish!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
The whiners will lose this weekend to the Bucs and all this Smith hype will calm the fk down.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RRS,
Forgot about Wimbley! Add one for him.
I’ll go 5 sacks on Sunday (Seymour, Kelly, Shaughnessy, Huff, Wimbley)
November 15th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
SF now has their franchise QB.
The Niners are now relevant and can make a run at the playoffs.
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LOL!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Jimbo Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:58 am
If our O line and D line can continue to work the opponents over, our skill positions are too much speed for the backfield to cover. They have to pick thier poison. I see Polamalu is guessing more these days. The way to kill his agressiveness is play head games with him and cross up his reads. If only to put a stutter in his step.
We get this team on its heels, the big guys up front will have them skidding backwards on roller skates.
The Steelers eyes will be wide as coasters as they walk meekly up to the line bewildered, confused, beaten, and swearing at the themselves.
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Solid post Bro..I saw them dropping harrison back in zone coverage… I would love to see him pick up reece or DMAC on a wheel, screen, or delay out of the backfield……That will be instant points or huge gains…
November 15th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
The whiners will lose this weekend to the Bucs and all this Smith hype will calm the fk down.
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Truth
November 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Mistic, 136
you gotta problem with Campbell?
November 15th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I hope DMAC lowers the boom on Troy Polamalu and knocks his mouthpeice out
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
# DMAC Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
The whiners will lose this weekend to the Bucs and all this Smith hype will calm the fk down.
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Even if the niners lose, Smith will continue to get his shot, and prove he is not hype.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Not sure about Huff on that sack list. Ben isn’t easy to bring down. I’ll give him a half tho.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
SF now has their franchise QB.
The Niners are now relevant and can make a run at the playoffs.
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LOL!
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GaaaWWWD!
These fruitcake 49er fans need to go cheer for their team, “YAAAAY, Crimson & Butterscotch!!!”
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
ESPN is reporting that an arbitrator has denied former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin $2.6 million in back pay.
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Who are the big losers in this? Kiffin and his family, maddenraider and koolkell. As usual.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
I can’t name 3 players on the Bucs defense, but I have little doubt they can handle Toddler Smith!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
The more I think, the more I wonder if this couldn’t be a breakout game for Shaughnessy. Did you see that scrub at LT for the Steelers last night? Mario Henderson at his worst was never that bad. He could conceivably end up with 3 sacks by his own damn self.
And if they try to double team him? Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly left one on one. Good luck with that.
The Chiefs have two pretty decent guards in Brian Waters and Ryan Lilja and they looked helpless against Seymour & Kelly. These guys for the Steelers will have no chance.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Mistic, 136
you gotta problem with Campbell?
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Hilarious.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Not sure about Huff on that sack list. Ben isn’t easy to bring down.
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and you say i’m negative and question my fanhood for some sarcatic Nick Miller comments?
Pfft!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
# Jimbo Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
SF now has their franchise QB.
The Niners are now relevant and can make a run at the playoffs.
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LOL!
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GaaaWWWD!
These fruitcake 49er fans need to go cheer for their team, “YAAAAY, Crimson & Butterscotch!!!”
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What niner fans? I havent seen any posters claim to be niner fans, maybe I missed it.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
We need to put solid hats on thigpen….Blitz him often….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
“I’m somethin like a leader how they follow a n_gga, she dont never spit it out she like to swallow a n_gga”
November 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
I hope DMAC lowers the boom on Troy Polamalu and knocks his mouthpeice out
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Who was the Bengal that knocked him on his azz last Monday? Was it Benson? That was good stuff.
I can see DMac or MBush doing the same thing.
Troy was frustrated and off his game last night. Whatever it was New England did to get him that way, I hope we do the same thing.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
November 15th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
ESPN is reporting that an arbitrator has denied former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin $2.6 million in back pay.
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Who are the big losers in this? Kiffin and his family, maddenraider and koolkell. As usual.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
miami does have a lot of speed and WR, and marshall can be a beast….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
next week is a qb show case here in the bay. We will get to watch rothlisberger, vs campbell, and freeman vs. smith. What a line up.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Just sayin. Huff will get to him but I see someone else helping him out, ergo the half sack…
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Getting old in football years happens in a hurry, and it happens due to numerous factors. Injuries to the knees and feet are part of it.
Remember our one-time “great” CB Terry McDaniel? In a period of about 1-year, he went from great to being burned consistently. Once his speed left him, he was done. Very sad to see that proud guy’s talents go as rapidly as they did.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Soup is nothing but a spinal-cord and a bowl of pudding. He has that vacant look in his eyes most often associated with cattle. Miss Stink, you’re a dope.
Go Raiders
November 15th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Hopefully Nam21 can play that game, he will draw marshall….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Sup wit ya Theculation?
Seyi was over at auntie’s crib last night……was alot of major league shhht talking going on. Cat wants me to shoot down for SD game bad….supposedly that weekend is gonna smack hard ya dig?
November 15th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
miami does have a lot of speed and WR, and marshall can be a beast….
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Thigpen hasnt shown that he can avoid the big mistake. I think we can get a couple of turn overs as he is reckless at times.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
So if miami signs BRL what the over under on howmany sacks we will get that game…I say 12….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
My honest opinion of the game, i think our recievers are to fast for that cover 2 of theirs…If campbell gets time and our line piks up blitzes we are going to have ALOT of oppurtunities
November 15th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
if Mike Huff can bring down RB Steven Jackson with ease, I’m pretty sure he can sack Big Ben running for his life behind that trash heap O-Line.
please. are you part of the “Huff can’t tackle” parade?
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# NOLA Raider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Soup is nothing but a spinal-cord and a bowl of pudding. He has that vacant look in his eyes most often associated with cattle. Miss Stink, you’re a dope.
Go Raiders
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Campbell has us first in the division. That is dope
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Yeah Pitt is all banged up….but trust me they gonna come at us swinging on Sunday…..you ca bet ya last dollar on that
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Miss Stink, your takes are asinine. Soup is not fit to cary Gannon’s jock. The two are not comparable. Your boy Soup is a never was. JC the bovine.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Miami has to play on 3 days rest this Thursday against Julius Peppers and the Bears. No guarantee that Thigpen even survives that game.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Wow I havent been on blog in like 5 days and we still got people throwing insults to JC……….what a damn shame you people are
November 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Bauce 2 Dope Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Sup wit ya Theculation?
Seyi was over at auntie’s crib last night……was alot of major league shhht talking going on. Cat wants me to shoot down for SD game bad….supposedly that weekend is gonna smack hard ya dig?
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right right…. I heard he was talking big….saying we were lucky to be in first….We have the best D in the west top 7 in the league….Thats why we are in first….
We will play them right around the time Hue Jack will have us clicking big time several games in a row….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
You times are pretty fk’ed up when stupid azz fools rob a Chuck E Cheese w/ children still in there.
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_16613918
November 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I think it would be a major mistake to look past the Steelers.
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At least Im not the only one with a realistic approach to this game. Hopefully our coaches dont treat this game the way some of our semi-pros are.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Only reason I am talking miami is I am looking past the pickburg game… We are going to domintae them and it wont be close or pretty…..
November 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Huff is getting better. he’s not whiffing like he was in the begining of the season. Ben rapethisburger is a load. saw him shrug off quite a few arm tackles last night. would rather have huff in coverage anyway. Rush four – drop seven…
November 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
# NOLA Raider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Miss Stink, your takes are asinine. Soup is not fit to cary Gannon’s jock. The two are not comparable. Your boy Soup is a never was. JC the bovine.
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Rich Gannon was a nobody and is still a nobody…..what did he exactly do? MVP with no ring….big deal. Spare me that at least he got us to the Super Bowl crap….you sound like a loser if you say that! Rich Gannon got over in a time when that sort of offense could be effective but notice when we played the tougher defenses that forced him to make throws in tight windows…he struggled heavily. Gannon is years ago and leave his time back where it was
November 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
*you know
November 15th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I think it would be a major mistake to look past the Steelers.
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At least Im not the only one with a realistic approach to this game. Hopefully our coaches dont treat this game the way some of our semi-pros are.
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ROFLMAO….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Seyi was over at auntie’s crib last night……was alot of major league shhht talking going on. Cat wants me to shoot down for SD game bad….supposedly that weekend is gonna smack hard ya dig?
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ROG,
Seyi will be washing cars or bagging groceries by then
VJax is coming back. Floyd & Nanne back too. Crayton & Davis in the mix. Gates is Rivers favorite target
tell Seyi he can join the Raiders practice squad and compete with Shaun Bodiford …
November 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Soup has lead the Raiders nowhere. J Ford is the reason that the Raiders are #1 in the division with his amazing save of Soup’s ass…a tremendous individual effort to go and get the gimp balls that no talent Soup threw up for grabs.
There is a team full of guys who have done the same yeoman’s duty that J Ford did last week and they are the reason that we are in front of the division. Soup is a limiting factor not a bright spot.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Only reason I am talking miami is I am looking past the pickburg game… We are going to domintae them and it wont be close or pretty…..
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Highly doubt domination will happen Thec……Pitt just got embarrassed in front of their home crowd….they gonna come to fight Sunday
November 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
3 of the 5 sacks on Ben last night they werent even able to take him to the ground. They were ruled ’sacks’ because they held him up long enough like forward progress being stopped on a runner.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
LMFAO, Kiffin is a moron.
Where is The RealMadden Kiffin Lover?
Nowhere to be found of course, he is a coward….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I’d feel a little better about the Raiders’ chances if I knew Zach Miller was going to be 100%. I know Cable said the couching staff was just being “precautious” by having Zach on crutches, but it worries me.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
# NOLA Raider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Soup has lead the Raiders nowhere. J Ford is the reason that the Raiders are #1 in the division with his amazing save of Soup’s ass…a tremendous individual effort to go and get the gimp balls that no talent Soup threw up for grabs.
There is a team full of guys who have done the same yeoman’s duty that J Ford did last week and they are the reason that we are in front of the division. Soup is a limiting factor not a bright spot.
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Typical idiot here…..take a long walk off a short bridge. This is a team game but only one person has W’s and L’s attached to their stats and thats the QB……so Jason has led the team. You are just another mental midget imbecilic loser who has an agenda and would rather be right about Jason than win games. You are a loser and a b_tch
November 15th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Big Ben is gonna go ride the bike without a helmet after this game!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Highly doubt domination will happen Thec……Pitt just got embarrassed in front of their home crowd….they gonna come to fight Sunday
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Thats become a yearly event for picksburg….
NE has showed the whole league how to beat picksburg…Spread them out…
Snas brady, we have a waaaayyyybetter arsenal than brady has….Our D is top 7 in the league at week 11…
This game should be a blow out, and not even be close..
NATION 42 – picks 17….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Lance…Lance…wherefor art thine $2,900,000?
You lost it in arbitration? When did you start gambling? And where the fock is Arbitration??
November 15th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Lance…Lance…wherefor art thine $2,900,000?
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I bet he has it spent allready….lol
November 15th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Seyi was over at auntie’s crib last night……was alot of major league shhht talking going on. Cat wants me to shoot down for SD game bad….supposedly that weekend is gonna smack hard ya dig?
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ROG,
Seyi will be washing cars or bagging groceries by then
VJax is coming back. Floyd & Nanne back too. Crayton & Davis in the mix. Gates is Rivers favorite target
tell Seyi he can join the Raiders practice squad and compete with Shaun Bodiford …
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Actually Seyi is better than any WR we have on the roster……why you think Sanjay Lal hit him up after the Houston game?
RRS you dont know the happenings down in SD do ya bruh? Maybe you outta read the USA today article about Seyi and how Norv said he will bne on active roster rest of the season. Naanae is not good and never will be. Seyi has snatched his slot if you didnt know. And another thing you surely dont know is DAVIS IS ON IR. Malcolm Floyd is injury prone and will get hurt again. V Jax hasnt played this year and has to get back into game shape. LOL Crayton? Next…..try again
November 15th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
NATION 42 – picks 17….
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nice Thec!
I’m a bit more modest.
Raiders 28
R@pists 10
November 15th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Waddup fellas….42-17 huh? Sounds good….I would love to see that…don’t think that’ll happen, and actually think it’ll be more like 16-13, but a win is a win however we get it. Should be a tough physical game. They might not have Ward either. That’s a big bonus for us considering Nnamdi might not be playing, and I’d rather we sit Asomugha to get him ready for big B.Marshall next week.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Highly doubt domination will happen Thec……Pitt just got embarrassed in front of their home crowd….they gonna come to fight Sunday
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Thats become a yearly event for picksburg….
NE has showed the whole league how to beat picksburg…Spread them out…
Snas brady, we have a waaaayyyybetter arsenal than brady has….Our D is top 7 in the league at week 11…
This game should be a blow out, and not even be close..
NATION 42 – picks 17….
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Do we have a better line than NE? Surely we dont have a better QB…..plus NE was fired up because Clev embarrassed them
November 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I agree that the Raiders should dominate. The lines are superior now, and they are regrouping and trying to flex weak muscles as if to make them strong.
This game is decided before the first snap. It is in the intensity and push you will see on the first series of offensive and defensive snaps.
We just need to play our game, our tempo, and forget about them. Pretend that they have the Bills or Lions logos on them.
They got nothing. We have to punch them in the face and watch them flinch.
Steelers goin down this Sunday.
Hard.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Actually Seyi is better than any WR we have on the roster
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Seyi Ajipoopoo is better than Murphy, Heyward-Bey, Ford & Higgins ???
wow!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
we could have got Seyi for free… Kid can flat out ball… Sanjay diddnt press hard enough…He needs to be fired….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Seyi is the player Sanjay once was. nothing more
November 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Guys every game is different…..the matchups, coaching strategies and injuries all play a factor in this. Hell do we even know what the weather will be like? 42-17 will not happen in this game. Pitt just got waxed at home and you think it will happen again like that? Never……we gonna have to pull it out inthe 4th quarter again
November 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
NOLA Raider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Miss Stink, your takes are asinine. Soup is not fit to cary Gannon’s jock. The two are not comparable. Your boy Soup is a never was. JC the bovine
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Gannon was a flavor of the month QB that got it done for a short period of time with a dominant O-line, the best WR’s to ever step foot on a football field, a brilliant pass catcher at RB, and an offensive minded HC, and a great OC. I appreciate what Gannon did and the work he put in but he was a never was, then a flavor of the month, and now he is a has-been. He fizzled out faster than Freddy Adu lol
November 15th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
we could have got Seyi for free… Kid can flat out ball… Sanjay diddnt press hard enough…He needs to be fired….
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Sanjay doesnt have that kind of juice.
It’s big Al who decides who he wants, and if someone wants a WR, they got to convince Al that it was his idea all along.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Seyi is the player Sanjay once was. nothing more
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Sanjay ever catch TDs? Sanjay gonna play the next two games on national TV?
November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
ESPN is reporting that an arbitrator has denied former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin $2.6 million in back pay.
Heading over to the facility soon. Working to confirm . . .
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Laugh out friggin loud!
Go lance yourself idiot.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Hey Bauce, what’s up loser?
November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Do we have a better line than NE? Surely we dont have a better QB…..plus NE was fired up because Clev embarrassed them
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Damn there you go playing the brady card….brady has done that to picks since 2001…Most teams want to try and bang with picks, very few say we are going to air it out against lebow… NE does have a steller Oline, matter of fact they all look like axe murderers….
Valid points Bruh, but I am sticking to my guns…We should blow them out….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
the best WR’s to ever step foot on a football field,
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You mean WR…………Tim Brown……damn Fairy Rice
November 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
The jury is still out on Seyi. He was a monster at Fresno but the kid is too young and hasn’t given us enough work in the league to evaluate. Right now, he seems to be on par with the talent level of a Murphy or Ford though. But as much as it pains me to say it; Rivers is a really good QB so it’s hard to determine how good some of his targets really are considering he makes a lot of people look good.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Jimbo Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
we could have got Seyi for free… Kid can flat out ball… Sanjay diddnt press hard enough…He needs to be fired….
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Sanjay doesnt have that kind of juice.
It’s big Al who decides who he wants, and if someone wants a WR, they got to convince Al that it was his idea all along.
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whatever it would have taken thats what we should have done…sanjay dropped the ball….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Bauce 2 Dope Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Guys every game is different…..the matchups, coaching strategies and injuries all play a factor in this. Hell do we even know what the weather will be like? 42-17 will not happen in this game. Pitt just got waxed at home and you think it will happen again like that? Never……we gonna have to pull it out inthe 4th quarter again
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I could see this grinding out as well, because of stupid penalties and refs bias against us. Hopefully our timeout coordinator holds the red flag unless it’s going to determine a score. If we get jobbed on 3rd and ten, just let it go and come back the next play. Raider Nation is always going to have to face the 12th man,
The ref.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Actually Seyi is better than any WR we have on the roster
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Seyi Ajipoopoo is better than Murphy, Heyward-Bey, Ford & Higgins ???
wow!
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Yeah actually he is…..got better hands than them all…..they just got better speed. Seyi would have gave up the redzone target Chaz was suppose to be….fa sho
November 15th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Bauce 2 Dope Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
the best WR’s to ever step foot on a football field,
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You mean WR…………Tim Brown……damn Fairy Rice
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Not a Rice fan but the dude could ball….just imagine if Tim had his QB’s and hadnt blown out his legs year 2 of his career, wow.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Jimbo Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Hopefully our timeout coordinator holds the red flag unless it’s going to determine a score.
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Is that a dis on Tom Cable? WTF is your problem mang? He is a major part of this turn around…
November 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
This week will be one of the most physical games of the NFL season…
Pittsburgh CAN’T play at home like they just did…and the Raiders MUST match the Steelers physically.
Considering the tough matchups in the trenches, and the propensity for BOTH our teams to play sloppy ball…don’t be surprised if Special Teams are the game deciders.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Bauce 2 Dope Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Guys every game is different…..the matchups, coaching strategies and injuries all play a factor in this. Hell do we even know what the weather will be like? 42-17 will not happen in this game. Pitt just got waxed at home and you think it will happen again like that? Never……we gonna have to pull it out inthe 4th quarter again
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Partly cloudy, highs in the mid 50’s….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Jimbo Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
we could have got Seyi for free… Kid can flat out ball… Sanjay diddnt press hard enough…He needs to be fired….
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Sanjay doesnt have that kind of juice.
It’s big Al who decides who he wants, and if someone wants a WR, they got to convince Al that it was his idea all along.
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whatever it would have taken thats what we should have done…sanjay dropped the ball….
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Actually yall are both wrong……….It came down to the AFC West teams….SD,KC and Oakland……he knew Cassel sucked……Seyi told me himself that SD was a passing team and Oakland is a running team and his chances are much better to shine in SD……Sanjay Lal tried real hard he called 5 times after Seyi made SD his destination and begged Seyi…….I begged that fukker too but then again its his career not mine
November 15th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
seyi played at fresno state good speed tall and good hands. The guy can ball…just rarely got it thrown to him.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# NOLA Raider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Miss Stink, your takes are asinine. Soup is not fit to cary Gannon’s jock. The two are not comparable. Your boy Soup is a never was. JC the bovine.
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My takes may stink, but you are one of my most dedicated readers, its actually a little creepy.
Ill tell you like I have always told you, make a solid case for your claim, or remain irrelavant on this board.
Name calling is a weak fall back for people desperately trying to mask their lack of football knowledge.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Seyi got prototypical size and very good hands…..plus he is humble as hell but he still will take the L come dec 5th……but cool he getting me tickets lol…..but its messed up….because I’m going to SD that weekend I wont see my cousin Michael Dixon put in work up in Oregon Dec 2nd on the hardwood…….Mizzou going to final four baby!
November 15th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
# olinesux Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
seyi played at fresno state good speed tall and good hands. The guy can ball…just rarely got it thrown to him.
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Because Pat Hill is an idiot and was in love with Matthews
November 15th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# NOLA Raider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Miss Stink, your takes are asinine. Soup is not fit to cary Gannon’s jock. The two are not comparable. Your boy Soup is a never was. JC the bovine.
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My takes may stink, but you are one of my most dedicated readers, its actually a little creepy.
Ill tell you like I have always told you, make a solid case for your claim, or remain irrelavant on this board.
Name calling is a weak fall back for people desperately trying to mask their lack of football knowledge.
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NOLA is a moron
November 15th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
he knew Cassel sucked……Seyi told me himself that SD was a passing team and Oakland is a running team and his chances are much better to shine in SD……Sanjay Lal tried real hard he called 5 times after Seyi made SD his destination and begged Seyi…….I begged that fukker too but then again its his career not mine
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Mr. Davis could have given him some of the money DHB gives back…
November 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
People are ignoring the Tomlin affect…..he will not let his team have another lackluster performance. As banged up as their front 7 is they still are going against our o-line that features Carlisle, Langston, a rookie div II starting LT and a C that is a better fit for a pure ZBS system.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
he knew Cassel sucked……Seyi told me himself that SD was a passing team and Oakland is a running team and his chances are much better to shine in SD……Sanjay Lal tried real hard he called 5 times after Seyi made SD his destination and begged Seyi…….I begged that fukker too but then again its his career not mine
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Mr. Davis could have given him some of the money DHB gives back…
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Plus Al wasnt gonna give Seyi shhht to come try out whereas SD would plus his teammate got drafted 1st rd and had a free place for him to stay so Seyi made right decision….its all good he still losing to us….its funny they really believe they are going to the SB
November 15th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Any way I have to dissapear….Enjoy the week…
Raider NATION…..
November 15th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
# severeraiderz Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
People are ignoring the Tomlin affect…..he will not let his team have another lackluster performance. As banged up as their front 7 is they still are going against our o-line that features Carlisle, Langston, a rookie div II starting LT and a C that is a better fit for a pure ZBS system.
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A wounded animal will eventually fight back
November 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
severeraiderz Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
People are ignoring the Tomlin affect…..he will not let his team have another lackluster performance
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Yep, just like he didn’t let his team lose 4 games in a row last year and sink their playoff chances.
Wait a minute….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Any way I have to dissapear….Enjoy the week…
Raider NATION…..
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See ya bruh
November 15th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
That f*ck Tebow cost me a victory yesterday in Fantasy Football.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Yeah well BAUCE is shaking the scene you turkeys…….anyhow yall JUST WIN and stay solid
November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
hill may be but with matthews having the year he had, it was the smart bet to run him…i think the qb situation hurt seyi more than the rb at fsu
November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
People are ignoring the Tomlin affect…..he will not let his team have another lackluster performance. As banged up as their front 7 is they still are going against our o-line that features Carlisle, Langston, a rookie div II starting LT and a C that is a better fit for a pure ZBS system.
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Wasn’t Tomlin the coach when they lost 5 straight games last season. People are acting like the Steelers are dominant. They are overrated, and the Patriots showed us that last night.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Shannahan just signed McNabb to a 5yr 78million extension with $40 million guaranteed….
The same McNabb he benched 2 weeks ago because he was too fat,lazy,stupid to run a 2 minute offense.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
SilverNBlackPA
What’s the feel up there in your Steeler area?
Fired up?
Nervous?
November 15th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
If Donovan McNabb can get that much, Manning is going to get 26-28 million, easy.
Nnamdi may make 21 million next year.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Jimbo,
Most people today seem stunned but I’ve heard a lot of talk of “Take the anger and disappointment out on the Raiders” I expect the team is feeling the same way.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Shannahan just signed McNabb to a 5yr 78million extension with $40 million guaranteed….
The same McNabb he benched 2 weeks ago because he was too fat,lazy,stupid to run a 2 minute offense.
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Wow, that’s quite a contract to hand out just so people don’t call you a racist. Really, that has to be one of the worst contracts ever.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Oh no doubt. Manning is absolutely going to eclipse 20 million in his next contract for one year.
You are overestimating McNabbs number. It is probably 10-12 million a year, heavily backloaded with incentives.
Nnamdi (if he doesnt renegotiate this year) will probably get 14-17 million next year.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Interesting decision by arbitration, especially when Al slipped in his press conference and invoked Kiffin’s performance as a reason for termination. He even went into detail, spelling out game plans, criticizing the effectiveness of them, etc. Kiffin obviously didn’t take this seriously and get real representation. He has been working every since, after all. In better jobs, at that. Because this was a slam dunk for him.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
People are ignoring the Tomlin affect…..he will not let his team have another lackluster performance. As banged up as their front 7 is they still are going against our o-line that features Carlisle, Langston, a rookie div II starting LT and a C that is a better fit for a pure ZBS system.
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Wasn’t Tomlin the coach when they lost 5 straight games last season. People are acting like the Steelers are dominant. They are overrated, and the Patriots showed us that last night.
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They were also playing without their best player on defense. The steelers may not be dominat but they are consistent and are a team that has taken on the personality of its HC. They are blue collar, fiery, and intense. They just won the superbowl 2 years ago and you guys are already overlooking them and talking about the Miami game lol. That team will show up to play and play hard….isnt the new england team the one that got spanked by Cle and everyone said that they had been “exposed”, being a monday morning quaterback is pretty easy. On any given sunday any team can win or lose, look at the Dal/NYG game, the giants were being touted as the best team in the NFC and came out and got spanked
November 15th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
MR, Kiffin must have the same lawyer as Randy Hanson.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Shannahan just signed McNabb to a 5yr 78million extension with $40 million guaranteed….
The same McNabb he benched 2 weeks ago because he was too fat,lazy,stupid to run a 2 minute offense.
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LMAO at that stupid rich boy idiot owner…the same guy that gave Haynesworth $100Mil.
That franchise is going to the toilet.
A lot of whispers around the league that McNabb has lost it. Whatever he had, it aint there
November 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Interesting decision by arbitration, especially when Al slipped in his press conference and invoked Kiffin’s performance as a reason for termination. He even went into detail, spelling out game plans, criticizing the effectiveness of them, etc. Kiffin obviously didn’t take this seriously and get real representation. He has been working every since, after all. In better jobs, at that. Because this was a slam dunk for him.
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You are a sad little man….
November 15th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Jimbo,
Most people today seem stunned but I’ve heard a lot of talk of “Take the anger and disappointment out on the Raiders” I expect the team is feeling the same way.
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thanks for that report
November 15th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Steelers dropped 2 of their last 3 and BARELY hung on at Cincy. I would say Cincys special teams gaffes were the real difference in that game, not anything the Steelers did. The blueprint has been the same. Attack them behind the LOS, and force them out of their blitzes and into coverage with short high completion percentage throws. Add in the fact that the Steelers havent faced anything CLOSE to the trifecta of DMAC Bush and Reece and this is definitely a winnable game for us. If they come out with the right gameplan, and stick to it they should win this game. It will be very close though.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Paine, I don’t think Kiffin really cared. He’s been working in better jobs ever since being fired in Oakland. Davis revealed that part of the reason he fired Kiffin was for job performance, and that alone should entitle Kiffin to the rest of what he’s owed in the contract.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.
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Not sure what any of these guys have ever “got done”.
David Garrard is fresh off a 6-10 season, Campbell a 4-12, Troy Smith getting waived and Scam Newton is Tim Tebow 2.0.
Didn’t realize that one good month in October equates to getting it done.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor. Bet the Davis minions are still going to cry about how the league’s against them.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Paine, I don’t think Kiffin really cared. He’s been working in better jobs ever since being fired in Oakland. Davis revealed that part of the reason he fired Kiffin was for job performance, and that alone should entitle Kiffin to the rest of what he’s owed in the contract.
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You dont think he cares about 2.9 MILLION DOLLARS? That has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read! You should be banned for saying something that stupid.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor. Bet the Davis minions are still going to cry about how the league’s against them.
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Al davis controls ur life, sad…..
November 15th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Overhead projector – 1
Lance Kiffin – 0
November 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Overhead projector – 1
Lance Kiffin – 0
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LOL!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Nnamdi (if he doesnt renegotiate this year) will probably get 14-17 million next year.
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Could get crazy.
Here are the 4 highest paid QBs under contract for next year:
Tom Brady $18M
Eli Manning $16.3M
Carson Palmer $16.2M
Philip Rivers $15.3M
Jason LaCanfora reports that the McNabb deal is an average annual value of 15.5 million.
Let’s say Manning gets 25 million per this offseason. Carson Palmer is likely to be cut, based on that salary vis a vis his performance this year.
Then we’d have:
Manning 25 mil
Brady 18 mil
E. Manning 16.3
McNabb 15.5
Rivers 15.3
That comes to a total of a shade over 90 million, which when averaged, comes to 18 million bucks
Nnamdi might be getting paid the same as Tom Brady. Insanitysauce.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor
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Absolutely Al Davis got “hooked up”. You know why?
He has earned and deserved the benefit of the doubt.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Only a moron would repeat this same krap time after time.
Welcome yourself to the KKKell booster club of repeating the same tired old garbage.
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Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Trade Jon Condo for Trot Smith!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
I hope Mike Mitchell knocks the piss out of Seyi Ajirotutu in Week 13.
remember that hit Donovan Darius layed on Robert Ferguson a few years ago?
yeah, like that!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I hope Mitchell makes Bauce’s sister cry.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Nnamdi might be getting paid the same as Tom Brady. Insanitysauce.
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PA, agreed
trade Nnamdi Asomugha, Bruce Gradkowski & a 2nd rounder for Tom Brady!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Nobody attempts to turn chicken sh!t into chicken salad as much as MR.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor. Bet the Davis minions are still going to cry about how the league’s against them.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
MR means business today! You know this because he is using his favorite alias A.B
November 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
here ya go
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos/2004-12-20-hit.jpg
November 15th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Interesting decision by arbitration, especially when Al slipped in his press conference and invoked Kiffin’s performance as a reason for termination. He even went into detail, spelling out game plans, criticizing the effectiveness of them, etc. Kiffin obviously didn’t take this seriously and get real representation. He has been working every since, after all. In better jobs, at that. Because this was a slam dunk for him.
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LMFAO, you are such a MORON. Just admit defeat on this issue and move on moron.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.
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Not sure what any of these guys have ever “got done”.
David Garrard is fresh off a 6-10 season, Campbell a 4-12, Troy Smith getting waived and Scam Newton is Tim Tebow 2.0.
Didn’t realize that one good month in October equates to getting it done.
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Garrard is playing on a bad team, and posting solid numbers, again. he is lot like jc, a qb that plays well but hasnt had a very good team around him, end even now is making his team better. He started slow this year but he is sum surface hot right now.
Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis. Flacco stepped in abd made his mark. Because smith didnt get his shot doesnt mean he cant play. have you watched hi in his two starts or at all in his football career?
Campbell is putting up the w’s and putting up solid numbers, as per his pattern. The difference here is that this team is better than what he had in washington. he is one of the main driving forces behind our recent success.
Cam Newton is a much better passer than tebow ever could be. Im not sure if you have seen a lot of him, but he has one of the most accurate arms in college football. If Newton declares as a junior it think he would be in the top two qb’s of this class. Check him out before you trash his game.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Mistic how many hours a day do you spend defending JC?
Its your time not mine use it as you see fit Im just in amazement. JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Mistic how many hours a day do you spend defending JC?
Its your time not mine use it as you see fit Im just in amazement. JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?
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About as many hours as The Real MoronRaider spends defending young Lance Sniffin Kiffin.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
So.. The Real MoronRaider, I have a question for you, are you saying that Kiffin got screwed, and the arbitrator was wrong, and the NFL sided with Al Davis on this one? Just want to clarify your stance.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?
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LOL!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
JC and BG are 2 Qb’s that give us about equal chance to win so who gives a rip who is in there as long as we are competitive.
The end
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis
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This is not true, not sure where this came from but it is constantly referenced in here.
Troy Smith was competing for the job to start. Flacco started the first two preseason games, Smith was set to get his chance in the third game and got sick. He did not start one preseason game, not sure how he was declared the starter.
Cam Newton has a rocket arm, but I watched his game this weekend and an interesting note came up. He has NEVER attempted a pass after taking a snap under center this center. REPEAT: NEVER
There is a reason one of the most talented collegiate QB’s has played for 3 teams in the last 3 years, and he is running into trouble again this season. It is because he is a douchebag.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Lance Kiffin was fired for CAUSE. His performance lacked, in large part because he was working counter to what his Employer had hired him to do. Lance acknowledges that he misled his Employer on more than one occasion (read: LIED TO)…that in itself is a fire-able offense.
Spin it any way you want MR…everybody in here knows you can’t stand the fact you are WRONG once again, and you’ll try to make it seem as if Al LOST $2.9M.
Al took that lying little weasel — who never wanted to build anything in Oakland — to school. Everything Lance Kiffin ever “accomplished” was given to him on a Silver platter (yes, even the job here).
I say right here, right now…Lance will be replaced within 3-years…and he won’t get another job approaching the prominence of an NFL HC job, or another job as coveted as a program like USC’s.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Mistic how many hours a day do you spend defending JC?
Its your time not mine use it as you see fit Im just in amazement. JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?
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I dont understand this post. What does jc stepping over me have to do with what I have been posting today?
Jc is producing for my favorite team. What is the problem?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
JC and BG are 2 Qb’s that give us about equal chance to win so who gives a rip who is in there as long as we are competitive.
The end
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Agreed!
at least nobody is calling JCamp “Black Moses” like that other 1st rounder we had a while back …
November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Mistic you really dont understand my post or you just want to have a chat with me? Im not in the mood for square dancing…
November 15th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Mistic1, keep on trucking. Campbell is the best QB on the Raiders. Aig can shove his love for Gradkowski up his ass.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
This is not true, not sure where this came from but it is constantly referenced in here.
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JFB:
fact or fiction, people believe what they want to believe. Just like all those stupid comments about DMAC tackling himself, tripping over hashmarks or running into the backs of his own linemen in the offseason
November 15th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis
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Im afraid you are wrong. he was named the starter going into camp, he contracted tonsilitis before preseason, flacco stepped in and never looked back.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Mistic you really dont understand my post or you just want to have a chat with me? Im not in the mood for square dancing…
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I really dont, isnt every body past the campbell vs grad thing already? I am.
So I dont see your point.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Oh where oh where is The RealMoron Raider, or where or where could he be……
November 15th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Mistic you really dont understand my post or you just want to have a chat with me? Im not in the mood for square dancing…
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I really dont, isnt every body past the campbell vs grad thing already? I am.
So I dont see your point.
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WHO CARES WHO IS AT QB, AS LONG AS WE ARE WINNING. I WOULD EVEN BE COOL WITH DONALD HOLLAS….. GRADS OR JC, IT DONT MATTER, JUST WIN BABY!!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
mistic1 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis
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Im afraid you are wrong. he was named the starter going into camp, he contracted tonsilitis before preseason, flacco stepped in and never looked back.
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Troy smith had won the starting job in camp and a severe infection kept him from playing
November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
St. Jimmy, since some people think I am MR, I can act as his surrogate.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Ummm…we all saw DMC falling over hashmarks, tripping over himself, and running into his own Linemen more than into daylight the past two years. Those things were happening. A lot.
We fans are all happy he seems to have re-learned how to stay upright. If he keeps playing like this, and IF he can stay healthy, he’ll be in the Pro Bowl and we’ll be in the Playoffs.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
St. Jimmy, since some people think I am MR, I can act as his surrogate.
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Lol, don’t torture yourself like that bud. Ain’t NOBODY on here wanting or trying to act like MR….
November 15th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RR,
Did you notice that Fat Mope is MIA since I figured out that was Jerry’s alias?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Especially since MR just bent over and took another one…… Guy can’t buy a win…
November 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
No stupid penalties! Lining up in the neutral zone, etc. that’s pop warner stuff. cant give the refs a chance to take the game from us.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
If he keeps playing like this, and IF he can stay healthy, he’ll be in the Pro Bowl and we’ll be in the Playoffs.
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HD37, I’m not worried
are you?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis
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Cam Newton has a rocket arm, but I watched his game this weekend and an interesting note came up. He has NEVER attempted a pass after taking a snap under center this center. REPEAT: NEVER
There is a reason one of the most talented collegiate QB’s has played for 3 teams in the last 3 years, and he is running into trouble again this season. It is because he is a douchebag.
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I have seen Cam Newton play more than once this year, and he has every pass, not just the rocket shot. he also makes the touch passes, and is good throwing short, medium and over the middle. former NFL pro gary danielson, and cbs college football broadcaster said he is the nfl ready passer now, maybe a touch behind where mathew stafford was when he declared.I have to agree.
He made some bad choices at florida, but many players have, im not aware of hi breaking any rules while at blinn jc, or now at auburn.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Did you notice that Fat Mope is MIA since I figured out that was Jerry’s alias?
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Brown, you’re right
I haven’t seen Fat Kidd in a long time, but I thought that had more to do with the Raiders winning ?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
289.HayesDaze37 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Ummm…we all saw DMC falling over hashmarks, tripping over himself, and running into his own Linemen more than into daylight the past two years. Those things were happening. A lot.
We fans are all happy he seems to have re-learned how to stay upright. If he keeps playing like this, and IF he can stay healthy, he’ll be in the Pro Bowl and we’ll be in the Playoffs.
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There was no daylight the past two years, he was only given about 7 carries a game under Cable and the rest only happened a couple of time and some blowhards in here blew it out of proportion.
Hue Jackson made things right. McFadden was fine the entire time.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
cant give the refs a chance to take the game from us.
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it’s not about us giving the Refs a chance, it’s about the Refs giving us a chance!
sorry Brown, I wasn’t trying to sound like JFK
November 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
The Raiders need both DMC and MBush to stay healthy the rest of the year. We need the capability (expectation) of 100+ rushing yards from whichever RB is on the field at the time.
With DMC, I worry about his health more than anybody else on the team.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
bcz24 Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
You dont think he cares about 2.9 MILLION DOLLARS?
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How much does he make at USC? I don’t know. That’s a lot of money. No doubt. But he has a father who’s been coaching for years and I’m sure is a millionaire. He grew up in a family with good money. Upper-middle class, at minimal, with a father who was a journeyman assistant coach in the NFL. So, how much money is that to Lane Kiffin? Is it worth having to tangle with Al Davis in arbitration, knowing Al will never give up?
I’m just brainstorming reasons as to how arbitration could have come down with this decision, because Al Davis most definitely revealed that his termination of Kiffin was at least partly due to performance. He admitted it when firing him, for crying out loud.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Dakota,
I’m not sure what side of the “RUE THE DAY” DMAC list HD37 is on, but it’s clear which side he should be on!
November 15th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Very clear, but I already had him pinned.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Absolutely Al Davis got “hooked up”. You know why?
He has earned and deserved the benefit of the doubt.
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Fair enough. So then when are you and the other Davis minions going to stop whining about how the NFL’s always picking on him?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
He admitted it when firing him, for crying out loud.
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No doubt you truly are “crying out loud”…
Moommmyyyyyy whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa Al Davis wins again…. WHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
BOHICA MR, BOHICA
November 15th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
# St. Jimmy Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
So.. The Real MoronRaider, I have a question for you, are you saying that Kiffin got screwed, and the arbitrator was wrong, and the NFL sided with Al Davis on this one? Just want to clarify your stance.
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That’s exactly what I’m saying. Do you see any other scenario? Davis admitted to firing Kiffin for performance, in the very press conference in which he fired him! Blatantly! More than once, and even went into detail.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
I’m just brainstorming reasons as to how arbitration could have come down with this decision, because Al Davis most definitely revealed that his termination of Kiffin was at least partly due to performance.
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You? Brainstorming? Don’t hurt yourself, your pea brain can only take so much.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
The only ammunition you had left on this blog MR was Kiffin v. Al Davis, and just like your s3x life, you shot blanks on that one too… Must hurt to be you.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
He admitted it when firing him, for crying out loud.
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No doubt you truly are “crying out loud”…
Moommmyyyyyy whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa Al Davis wins again…. WHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
BOHICA MR, BOHICA
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Too funny!!
Same person responding to the same person with two different monikers, it’s so delusional but funny.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
C’mon Dakota — You KNOW DMC fell down a lot…and he hurt himself, too. It was the only reason he wasn’t growing as a RB — he was always nicked, and he wasn’t producing.
I won’t disagree he was misused quite often… beginning under Kiffin’s stubborn hand. But, even in the open field, Darren was falling down more than he should have been.
His center-of-gravity is noticeably lower this year, and “chippy” hits aren’t knocking him over like they did a year ago.
DMC is playing the way he was expected to, and I couldn’t be happier about it. But, there are many factors for his success. The #1 factor is he’s been able to stay on the field.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Raider Dell Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
St. Jimmy Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
He admitted it when firing him, for crying out loud.
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No doubt you truly are “crying out loud”…
Moommmyyyyyy whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa Al Davis wins again…. WHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
BOHICA MR, BOHICA
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Too funny!!
Same person responding to the same person with two different monikers, it’s so delusional but funny.
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WTF are you talking about Dell? Are you saying I am MR responding to myself? Don’t insult me like that, go fck yourself.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
RR,
I have no idea how JFK sounds I wasnt born yet.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Smith was scheduled to start in the third preseason game of the 2008 season, but became ill with a rare disease Lemierre’s syndrome.[19] Due to Smith’s illness, rookie Joe Flacco was named to the Ravens’ starting QB position
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LET’S ALL SAY IT TOGETHER.
Troy Smith did not start one preseason game in 2008, and was never declared anything other than a candidate for the job.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
HayezDaze,
The Raiders obviously claim Lane Kiffin was fired for “cause”, because they know if they fired him for performance, they’d have to pay him the remainder of his contract. But despite the Raiders’ claim, Al Davis revealed well beyond any sane person’s reasonable doubt that performance played a role in his termination, as well. And if it did, Kiffin should be owed the money. Al Davis put on the worst performance ever for an owner trying to convince the press that he was firing his coach for cause and not performance. He slipped every 5 seconds. He was criticizing Kiffin for actual play calling, for crying out loud. That’s as performance as it gets for a coach, because that is the most active process that a coach is involved in. You couldn’t criticize a coach based on performance any further than you could with criticizing their play calling, and Al did just that, at the very press conference where he claimed to be firing him for “cause”, which means non performance. It was ridiculous. So I’m wondering, how could the arbitrator had sided with Al? The only reason I can come up with is that maybe Al isn’t as hated by the league as you guys insist he is. So maybe the whinefest about how Al gets treated by the league should scale back a little now?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
McFadden was fine the entire time.
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Hey now. Did Cable make him fumble last year too?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
In fact, Kyle Boller started the first preseason game in 2008, Joe Flacco the second, and Troy Smith was last in line, to start game 3.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Whatever you do, don’t try and make it seem like I’m anti-DMC. I’m pro-whomever is my RB…and DMC is my RB. Can’t take back the fact (don’t want to) that I feel MBush could carry the load for this team, with a capable backup (just like DMC’s doing now).
Go DMC & go Raiders. I’d like DMC to make all other teams rue the day they face him, like they do now. I’ll never rue the day one of my own team’s players is successful.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
# St. Jimmy Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Especially since MR just bent over and took another one…… Guy can’t buy a win…
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Take it easy.
The Raiders are playing great football, but they’re not “there” yet. You know if they lost the rest of their games this year, their record is 5-11. Don’t say it can’t happen. I can pull up some past Raiders landslides in late seasons, if you like.
The Raiders are playing good football and we should all be happy. But dont’ get cocky.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
314.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
McFadden was fine the entire time.
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Hey now. Did Cable make him fumble last year too?
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like I said, now that Russell and his greasy, fat dripping fingers aren’t handing him the ball the fumbling problem has greatly diminished.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
The FACTS are in. Kiffin was JUSTIFIABLY fired for cause. So what if performance factored into it too? His other poor behavior was enough to justify cause for termination without further compensation.
Al is ON A ROLL!
Next topic MR?
November 15th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
WTF are you talking about Dell? Are you saying I am MR responding to myself? Don’t insult me like that, go fck yourself.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That’s what I thought, confirmed. i really think your funny, it brings laughter to the blog with your many aliases. Keep it up, is entertaining.
Oh, by the way, don’t try the back to back comment with two different names, It won’t fly.
I was wondering Real Madden Raider when are you going to MAN!! up and admit your wrong on your won loss record for the Raiders this year. Let’s see you said on many occasions you thought they would win three and changed to four. I haven’t seen any correction on your part yet, so what gives.
November 15th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
new post!
November 15th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
MR, you are going out of your way to show just how simple-minded you are…
Lance was fired for CAUSE. When an Employee LIES to his Employer regarding his job, he can rightfully be fired for cause…immediately. Not only did Lance dig his own grave, he threw himself into it by continuing to mislead his Employer when directly confronted.
AND, simple-thinker…
The NFL did NOTHING to Lance in this arbitration. All mediators/arbitrators/special masters are approved by the League…and the representatives of ALL sides in a dispute. If one side doesn’t agree to a particular mediator, said mediator will be replaced. The OBJECTIVE mediator has his/her job specifically because all parties agree to his selection as such.
Lance Kiffin has shown a propensity to lie to, mislead, and connive his Employer. Lance was fired for CAUSE…easy to prove even in kindergarten court.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
The Raiders are playing good football and we should all be happy. But dont’ get cocky.
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Good advice.
November 15th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Lance might have deserved to get fired “for cause” but Mr. Davis did not handle the situation well. The whole thing with the letter, the overhead projector and the “Jamarcus is a great QB…Get over it!” thing…Was not Al’s finest hour. The bummer for Al is he was in the right and he kind of goofed it up by making himself seem so vindictive and weird.