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ESPN: Kiffin grievance denied

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 15th, 2010 at 10:18 am in Oakland Raiders.

ESPN is reporting that an arbitrator has denied former Raiders coach Lane Kiffin $2.6 million in back pay.

Heading over to the facility soon. Working to confirm . . .

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  • Jimbo

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    Jimbo,

    Most people today seem stunned but I’ve heard a lot of talk of “Take the anger and disappointment out on the Raiders” I expect the team is feeling the same way.

    ****

    thanks for that report

  • bcz24

    Steelers dropped 2 of their last 3 and BARELY hung on at Cincy. I would say Cincys special teams gaffes were the real difference in that game, not anything the Steelers did. The blueprint has been the same. Attack them behind the LOS, and force them out of their blitzes and into coverage with short high completion percentage throws. Add in the fact that the Steelers havent faced anything CLOSE to the trifecta of DMAC Bush and Reece and this is definitely a winnable game for us. If they come out with the right gameplan, and stick to it they should win this game. It will be very close though.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Paine, I don’t think Kiffin really cared. He’s been working in better jobs ever since being fired in Oakland. Davis revealed that part of the reason he fired Kiffin was for job performance, and that alone should entitle Kiffin to the rest of what he’s owed in the contract.

  • Just Fire Baby

    David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.

    ***********************************

    Not sure what any of these guys have ever “got done”.

    David Garrard is fresh off a 6-10 season, Campbell a 4-12, Troy Smith getting waived and Scam Newton is Tim Tebow 2.0.

    Didn’t realize that one good month in October equates to getting it done.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor. Bet the Davis minions are still going to cry about how the league’s against them.

  • bcz24

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
    Paine, I don’t think Kiffin really cared. He’s been working in better jobs ever since being fired in Oakland. Davis revealed that part of the reason he fired Kiffin was for job performance, and that alone should entitle Kiffin to the rest of what he’s owed in the contract.
    ********
    You dont think he cares about 2.9 MILLION DOLLARS? That has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read! You should be banned for saying something that stupid.

  • severeraiderz

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor. Bet the Davis minions are still going to cry about how the league’s against them.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Al davis controls ur life, sad…..

  • Just Fire Baby

    Overhead projector – 1

    Lance Kiffin – 0

  • RaiderRockstar

    Overhead projector – 1

    Lance Kiffin – 0

    ***

    LOL!

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Nnamdi (if he doesnt renegotiate this year) will probably get 14-17 million next year.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Could get crazy.

    Here are the 4 highest paid QBs under contract for next year:

    Tom Brady $18M
    Eli Manning $16.3M
    Carson Palmer $16.2M
    Philip Rivers $15.3M

    Jason LaCanfora reports that the McNabb deal is an average annual value of 15.5 million.

    Let’s say Manning gets 25 million per this offseason. Carson Palmer is likely to be cut, based on that salary vis a vis his performance this year.

    Then we’d have:

    Manning 25 mil
    Brady 18 mil
    E. Manning 16.3
    McNabb 15.5
    Rivers 15.3

    That comes to a total of a shade over 90 million, which when averaged, comes to 18 million bucks

    Nnamdi might be getting paid the same as Tom Brady. Insanitysauce.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor

    ***********************************

    Absolutely Al Davis got “hooked up”. You know why?

    He has earned and deserved the benefit of the doubt.

  • Mistabrown

    Only a moron would repeat this same krap time after time.
    Welcome yourself to the KKKell booster club of repeating the same tired old garbage.
    _______

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Trade Jon Condo for Trot Smith!

  • RaiderRockstar

    I hope Mike Mitchell knocks the piss out of Seyi Ajirotutu in Week 13.

    remember that hit Donovan Darius layed on Robert Ferguson a few years ago?

    yeah, like that!

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    I hope Mitchell makes Bauce’s sister cry.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Nnamdi might be getting paid the same as Tom Brady. Insanitysauce.

    ***

    PA, agreed

    trade Nnamdi Asomugha, Bruce Gradkowski & a 2nd rounder for Tom Brady!

  • Mistabrown

    Nobody attempts to turn chicken sh!t into chicken salad as much as MR.
    _____

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Don’t ever say the league hates the Raiders. They just hooked Al Davis up in the Kiffin hearing. They had all the evidence in the world to prove that Davis fired Kiffin for performance, and therefore should owe Kiffin the money, yet they ruled in Davis’s favor. Bet the Davis minions are still going to cry about how the league’s against them.

  • Mistabrown

    MR means business today! You know this because he is using his favorite alias A.B

  • RaiderRockstar
  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
    Interesting decision by arbitration, especially when Al slipped in his press conference and invoked Kiffin’s performance as a reason for termination. He even went into detail, spelling out game plans, criticizing the effectiveness of them, etc. Kiffin obviously didn’t take this seriously and get real representation. He has been working every since, after all. In better jobs, at that. Because this was a slam dunk for him.

    ——————-

    LMFAO, you are such a MORON. Just admit defeat on this issue and move on moron.

  • mistic1

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.

    ***********************************

    Not sure what any of these guys have ever “got done”.

    David Garrard is fresh off a 6-10 season, Campbell a 4-12, Troy Smith getting waived and Scam Newton is Tim Tebow 2.0.

    Didn’t realize that one good month in October equates to getting it done.
    ==========================================================

    Garrard is playing on a bad team, and posting solid numbers, again. he is lot like jc, a qb that plays well but hasnt had a very good team around him, end even now is making his team better. He started slow this year but he is sum surface hot right now.

    Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis. Flacco stepped in abd made his mark. Because smith didnt get his shot doesnt mean he cant play. have you watched hi in his two starts or at all in his football career?

    Campbell is putting up the w’s and putting up solid numbers, as per his pattern. The difference here is that this team is better than what he had in washington. he is one of the main driving forces behind our recent success.

    Cam Newton is a much better passer than tebow ever could be. Im not sure if you have seen a lot of him, but he has one of the most accurate arms in college football. If Newton declares as a junior it think he would be in the top two qb’s of this class. Check him out before you trash his game.

  • Mistabrown

    Mistic how many hours a day do you spend defending JC?

    Its your time not mine use it as you see fit Im just in amazement. JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?

  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    Mistabrown Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
    Mistic how many hours a day do you spend defending JC?

    Its your time not mine use it as you see fit Im just in amazement. JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?

    ———–

    About as many hours as The Real MoronRaider spends defending young Lance Sniffin Kiffin.

  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    So.. The Real MoronRaider, I have a question for you, are you saying that Kiffin got screwed, and the arbitrator was wrong, and the NFL sided with Al Davis on this one? Just want to clarify your stance.

  • RaiderRockstar

    JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?

    ***

    LOL!

  • Mistabrown

    JC and BG are 2 Qb’s that give us about equal chance to win so who gives a rip who is in there as long as we are competitive.

    The end

  • Just Fire Baby

    Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis

    *********************************

    This is not true, not sure where this came from but it is constantly referenced in here.

    Troy Smith was competing for the job to start. Flacco started the first two preseason games, Smith was set to get his chance in the third game and got sick. He did not start one preseason game, not sure how he was declared the starter.

    Cam Newton has a rocket arm, but I watched his game this weekend and an interesting note came up. He has NEVER attempted a pass after taking a snap under center this center. REPEAT: NEVER

    There is a reason one of the most talented collegiate QB’s has played for 3 teams in the last 3 years, and he is running into trouble again this season. It is because he is a douchebag.

  • HayesDaze37

    Lance Kiffin was fired for CAUSE. His performance lacked, in large part because he was working counter to what his Employer had hired him to do. Lance acknowledges that he misled his Employer on more than one occasion (read: LIED TO)…that in itself is a fire-able offense.

    Spin it any way you want MR…everybody in here knows you can’t stand the fact you are WRONG once again, and you’ll try to make it seem as if Al LOST $2.9M.

    Al took that lying little weasel — who never wanted to build anything in Oakland — to school. Everything Lance Kiffin ever “accomplished” was given to him on a Silver platter (yes, even the job here).

    I say right here, right now…Lance will be replaced within 3-years…and he won’t get another job approaching the prominence of an NFL HC job, or another job as coveted as a program like USC’s.

  • mistic1

    # Mistabrown Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Mistic how many hours a day do you spend defending JC?

    Its your time not mine use it as you see fit Im just in amazement. JC would step over you to get into his SUV, you know this right?
    ============================================================

    I dont understand this post. What does jc stepping over me have to do with what I have been posting today?

    Jc is producing for my favorite team. What is the problem?

  • RaiderRockstar

    JC and BG are 2 Qb’s that give us about equal chance to win so who gives a rip who is in there as long as we are competitive.

    The end

    ***

    Agreed!

    at least nobody is calling JCamp “Black Moses” like that other 1st rounder we had a while back …

  • Mistabrown

    Mistic you really dont understand my post or you just want to have a chat with me? Im not in the mood for square dancing…

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Mistic1, keep on trucking. Campbell is the best QB on the Raiders. Aig can shove his love for Gradkowski up his ass.

  • RaiderRockstar

    This is not true, not sure where this came from but it is constantly referenced in here.

    ***

    JFB:

    fact or fiction, people believe what they want to believe. Just like all those stupid comments about DMAC tackling himself, tripping over hashmarks or running into the backs of his own linemen in the offseason

  • mistic1

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis
    ============================================================
    Im afraid you are wrong. he was named the starter going into camp, he contracted tonsilitis before preseason, flacco stepped in and never looked back.

  • mistic1

    # Mistabrown Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Mistic you really dont understand my post or you just want to have a chat with me? Im not in the mood for square dancing…
    ==========================================================

    I really dont, isnt every body past the campbell vs grad thing already? I am.

    So I dont see your point.

  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    Oh where oh where is The RealMoron Raider, or where or where could he be……

  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    mistic1 Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    # Mistabrown Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Mistic you really dont understand my post or you just want to have a chat with me? Im not in the mood for square dancing…
    ==========================================================

    I really dont, isnt every body past the campbell vs grad thing already? I am.

    So I dont see your point.

    ——————

    WHO CARES WHO IS AT QB, AS LONG AS WE ARE WINNING. I WOULD EVEN BE COOL WITH DONALD HOLLAS….. GRADS OR JC, IT DONT MATTER, JUST WIN BABY!!

  • severeraiderz

    mistic1 Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis
    ============================================================
    Im afraid you are wrong. he was named the starter going into camp, he contracted tonsilitis before preseason, flacco stepped in and never looked back.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Troy smith had won the starting job in camp and a severe infection kept him from playing

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    St. Jimmy, since some people think I am MR, I can act as his surrogate.

  • HayesDaze37

    Ummm…we all saw DMC falling over hashmarks, tripping over himself, and running into his own Linemen more than into daylight the past two years. Those things were happening. A lot.

    We fans are all happy he seems to have re-learned how to stay upright. If he keeps playing like this, and IF he can stay healthy, he’ll be in the Pro Bowl and we’ll be in the Playoffs.

  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    St. Jimmy, since some people think I am MR, I can act as his surrogate.

    ————————-

    Lol, don’t torture yourself like that bud. Ain’t NOBODY on here wanting or trying to act like MR….

  • Mistabrown

    RR,
    Did you notice that Fat Mope is MIA since I figured out that was Jerry’s alias?

  • http://tobeornottobethatisthequestion.net St. Jimmy

    Especially since MR just bent over and took another one…… Guy can’t buy a win…

  • No Mas Diamante

    No stupid penalties! Lining up in the neutral zone, etc. that’s pop warner stuff. cant give the refs a chance to take the game from us.

  • RaiderRockstar

    If he keeps playing like this, and IF he can stay healthy, he’ll be in the Pro Bowl and we’ll be in the Playoffs.

    ***

    HD37, I’m not worried

    are you?

  • mistic1

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Troy smith was named the starter in baltimore in his second year, lost his job during camp when he suffered a sever case of tonsillitis

    *********************************

    Cam Newton has a rocket arm, but I watched his game this weekend and an interesting note came up. He has NEVER attempted a pass after taking a snap under center this center. REPEAT: NEVER

    There is a reason one of the most talented collegiate QB’s has played for 3 teams in the last 3 years, and he is running into trouble again this season. It is because he is a douchebag.
    ===========================================================

    I have seen Cam Newton play more than once this year, and he has every pass, not just the rocket shot. he also makes the touch passes, and is good throwing short, medium and over the middle. former NFL pro gary danielson, and cbs college football broadcaster said he is the nfl ready passer now, maybe a touch behind where mathew stafford was when he declared.I have to agree.

    He made some bad choices at florida, but many players have, im not aware of hi breaking any rules while at blinn jc, or now at auburn.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Did you notice that Fat Mope is MIA since I figured out that was Jerry’s alias?

    ***

    Brown, you’re right

    I haven’t seen Fat Kidd in a long time, but I thought that had more to do with the Raiders winning ?

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    289.HayesDaze37 Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    Ummm…we all saw DMC falling over hashmarks, tripping over himself, and running into his own Linemen more than into daylight the past two years. Those things were happening. A lot.

    We fans are all happy he seems to have re-learned how to stay upright. If he keeps playing like this, and IF he can stay healthy, he’ll be in the Pro Bowl and we’ll be in the Playoffs.
    +++++++++++++

    There was no daylight the past two years, he was only given about 7 carries a game under Cable and the rest only happened a couple of time and some blowhards in here blew it out of proportion.

    Hue Jackson made things right. McFadden was fine the entire time.

  • RaiderRockstar

    cant give the refs a chance to take the game from us.

    ***

    it’s not about us giving the Refs a chance, it’s about the Refs giving us a chance!

    sorry Brown, I wasn’t trying to sound like JFK :P

  • HayesDaze37

    The Raiders need both DMC and MBush to stay healthy the rest of the year. We need the capability (expectation) of 100+ rushing yards from whichever RB is on the field at the time.

    With DMC, I worry about his health more than anybody else on the team.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    bcz24 Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    You dont think he cares about 2.9 MILLION DOLLARS?

    …………….

    How much does he make at USC? I don’t know. That’s a lot of money. No doubt. But he has a father who’s been coaching for years and I’m sure is a millionaire. He grew up in a family with good money. Upper-middle class, at minimal, with a father who was a journeyman assistant coach in the NFL. So, how much money is that to Lane Kiffin? Is it worth having to tangle with Al Davis in arbitration, knowing Al will never give up?

    I’m just brainstorming reasons as to how arbitration could have come down with this decision, because Al Davis most definitely revealed that his termination of Kiffin was at least partly due to performance. He admitted it when firing him, for crying out loud.