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Tom Cable Q&A

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 at 4:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A transcript of Raiders’ coach Tom Cable at his press briefing Wednesday following practice:

Cable: Heyward-Bey did not practice, he strained a hamstring last Tuesday at practice Schilens did not practice Zach Miller practiced limited, John Henderson practiced limited, as did Nnamdi Asomugha

Q: How much work did those three do?

Cable: It was a decent amount; hopefully it will be more Thursday, We want to kind of put them so through some things today and see how they feel Thursday. If they feel like they did at the end of practice, we’re probably going to get more and more out of them

Q: That sounds encouraging …

Cable: Very.

Q: Could you rank those three, who is the farthest from coming back?

Cable: Not really. I think they’re all about the same. They’re doing well

Q: How serious is Heyward-Bey’s injury?

Cable: It’s just sore. It’s a real slight strain, not real serious, but it’s one of those things where if you push it too much too quick, it could become serious.

Q: Did Schilens have a setback?

Cable: It’s not so much a setback, it’s responded really well when we’re on the field running straight ahead; it’s just a matter of being able to cut and coming in and out of cuts. Still not very smooth yet.

Q: What has been the impact of Hue Jackson?

Cable: He has been a big lift for us in that we’ve taken some stuff he brought from Baltimore and his past at Cincinnati and put it with what was here and he’s done a nice job meshing the whole thing together.Some of the specific things, a little more gap scheme in terms of running the football and I think his idea of throwing the ball down the field bodes well for what we’re trying to do. A lot of it is play-action. It’s been a real good fit that way.

Q: Roethlisberger very good when flushed out of the pocket, what’s the best way to defend him?

Cable: I think you have to keep him in the pocket. We’re very aware that one, escapeability, he may be as good as there is. Outside the pocket, he’s dramatically, to another level, dramatically better than most. So you want to squeeze him from all angles, whether it’s with pressure or with a four-man rush. The biggest thing is if you get your hands on him is to wrap him up. I think that’s the biggest thing. That’s the biggest thing. Very good at getting out of sacks and potential traffic. And then you stay in coverage on the back end, because that’s where he does a really good job is escaping and throwing the ball down the field.

Q: How much more difficult in that you play man, whereas on zone team might be looking at him, but in man guys can’t see him or what he’s doing?

Cable: I think as long as you plaster and stay on your man, you’re in good shape. I think it plays to our hands a little bit better because we are a man team. If you’re in zone and looking to him and he escapes and moves out you start losing people in coverage.

Q: You watched last year’s game and comeback with your team what point did that serve?

Cable: I watched it last year on Monday, but we used it as part of the breakdown to some extent. I think the importance is we were just there almost 12 months ago, that we went in there, hung in there, hung in there, and found a way to win the game. I think, when you talk about when you’re going to Pittsburgh , people want to talk about their style of play, talk about their crowd, a very football savvy group of people. Just the fact that we’ve been there, found a way to have success there and just to kind of reiterate the fact that this is another team.

Q: Players have been talking about how you connect with them. Who have been your coaching influences?

Cable: I think I’ve had a lot of good influences. My college coach was Dennis Erickson. My high school coach, Dick Armstrong. Guys who have mentored me in this league, Alex Gibbs, Steve Mariucci, Keith Gilbertson. I’ve had very good fortune in terms of who I’ve been around, and I think all those guys had one thing in common and that was they connected with the players.

Q: A lot of energy today as practice opened . . .

Cable: I think that comes with success. We’ve won a few games now and you come back from the bye, we’re healthier, we’re excited for the second half of the season. You look out there, and you all do a good job of kind of telling them where they’re at and what’s ahead of them and all that. So there is a lot of excitement, a lot of energy. We’re excited about going to Pittsburgh and the opportunity that’s ahead of it. And it just comes from finding some success.

Q: How do you address the danger of being overconfident?

Cable: I won’t let that happen. We haven’t done a damn thing, and that’s been our motto. We have got to keep grinding and fighting and going to work and cutting it loose and doing what we do. I think if I ever feel like we lose sight of that, I’ll reel them back in, but that’s not us, at least not yet.

Q: Do you feel as if you still have something to prove to people about your being a contender?

Cable: You do because we have to have that feeling. For one, we haven’t done anything yet. We have won three games in a row, we’re 5-4, we missed a kick in Arizona , we didn’t score a touchdown at San Francisco . And those two things kind of, from a coach’s standpoint, really gnaw at you because you kind of know what you’re team should be. But we’re not. So, in order to accomplish anything, we have got to keep doing our job, which is getting better.

Q:Do you sense a boost in Ford’s confidence after big game vs. KC?

Cable: Not really. I’ve kind of thought from the very beginning that Jacoby had that air about him. It was just a matter of getting him acclimated him, teaching him the system and then finding out where he fits. And what coaches do is, find out where can you use a guy and what kind of role can he have. But he’s always been a confident guy in who he is.\

Q: Can you emulate the Patriots and other teams that spread out the Steelers and beat them with the pass, or are you not built that way?

Cable: We’re really not. You hit it on the head. We have to be who we are. At the same time, you look at some of the issues that they had on Sunday night was about spreading them out and mixing them up. Where do you have that fine line between what we are and what our strengths are into trying to be something maybe a little more that way, meaning spread? At the end of the day, be who you are and you might mix in a few things.

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598 Responses to “Tom Cable Q&A”

  1. KoolKell Says:

    Those 10am pst games always seem to go bad.

  2. big pep Says:

    1st biatches !!!!!!!

  3. big pep Says:

    forget post #2

  4. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Q: Can you emulate the Patriots and other teams that spread out the Steelers and beat them with the pass, or are you not built that way?

    Cable: We’re really not. You hit it on the head. We have to be who we are. At the same time, you look at some of the issues that they had on Sunday night was about spreading them out and mixing them up. Where do you have that fine line between what we are and what our strengths are into trying to be something maybe a little more that way, meaning spread? At the end of the day, be who you are and you might mix in a few things.

    _____________________________________________________

    Wait I thought the Patriots beat the Steelers with Play-Action?

  5. Mahlhavoc Says:

    FIF!

  6. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Yup. Those early morning games have proved brutal for the Raiders. This time could be different coming off a bye week as they are out of the “routine” and have not played for a while. Then again, bye’s have been brutal to the Raiders.

    Call me crazy but I got a feeling this time may be differnt.

    I still think Hue/Cable is going to throw more despite what Cable publicly said above. Its not going to be the Patriots style of throwing though. This is going to be more downfield stuff in comparison.

  7. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    you know something I would use extreme caution about pushing any of this stuff if I wereany of you. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the person doing the talking doing work.

    Fools rush in where wise men never go.

    …………..

    Is that another threat? Reeks of it. Wow. You guys are fired up today. And the Raiders are winning, too. You’d think these desperate measures were limited to when the team’s losing.

  8. Raiderbuck Says:

    I’m so excited for Sunday that I could just wet myself!

  9. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    10:00am PST games are rough on ME!

    Bloodymarys starting @ 9:00am, ice COLD beer @ 11:00am..Blasted by 1:00pm…..

  10. priesttj Says:

    I think we have to spread them out as in go 3 and 4 wides and run out that formation rather than the 12 formation. We can still run power when we need to but I see what coach is saying he doesn’tb think we’re quite ready to leave the 2 OT’s on their own he still wants to cover them up. Add OT and and a TE and run 22 and 21 formation. Whatever works he knows bettr than I do.

  11. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Good news!

    The game will be on ch.2 here in SO-CAL….(;

  12. Thec07 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    I think we have to spread them out as in go 3 and 4 wides and run out that formation rather than the 12 formation. We can still run power when we need to but I see what coach is saying he doesn’tb think we’re quite ready to leave the 2 OT’s on their own he still wants to cover them up. Add OT and and a TE and run 22 and 21 formation. Whatever works he knows bettr than I do.

    ++++++++++++++

    Solid post Bruh…He didnt rule out adding the new stuff as I dont see him tipping his hand to the enemy…look at his last quote though…

    “At the end of the day, be who you are and you might mix in a few things”…..

  13. priesttj Says:

    MR shut up dude I aint interested nor inclined to threaten nobody in here. So let’s let sleeping dogs lie OK

    Talk football or don’t but leave me out of it. Thanks.

  14. Thec07 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    I think we have to spread them out as in go 3 and 4 wides and run out that formation rather than the 12 formation.

    +++++++++++++++++

    This is going to be Hue Jacks new wrinkle…100 percent certain…

  15. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I can see running 3-4 WR sets and running out of that formation. I think you would see plenty of that. Also, you would likely see DMC shift out of the backfield a good bit of times to WR this game. You just don’t ignore the obvious that the Steelers are weakest in pass defense.

    Yes, you can try to run it on them and see where you stand but I would not build a game plan around having to run the ball. If its there – great. If not – you didn’t game plan for it

  16. priesttj Says:

    No doubt Hujack is the man, They know what gameplan to use and how to use it(players). I know one thing hey better be ready to run all day long.

  17. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Nah. Either DMC or Reece will shift out. Shifting out Reece while keeping DMC in the backfield would be helluva confusing for me considering that Reece has proven to be a viable threat in the open field.

  18. Thec07 Says:

    Also, you would likely see DMC shift out of the backfield a good bit of times to WR this game. You just don’t ignore the obvious that the Steelers are weakest in pass defense.

    +++++++++++++++

    Man have I been crying this one for two weeks…

    Put DMAC in motion, with 3 or 4 wides how in the hell do you defend that????

  19. KoolKell Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    you know something I would use extreme caution about pushing any of this stuff if I wereany of you. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the person doing the talking doing work.
    ———————-
    Norco (Doofus) Boob, intimated the same thing. I took it to mean the Raiders themselves. I mentioned it to the police, too.

  20. Thec07 Says:

    Man like it when you Pro’s come in here and talk football…This gets me amped….

  21. KoolKell Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Man have I been crying this one for two weeks…

    Put DMAC in motion, with 3 or 4 wides how in the hell do you defend that????
    —————————
    Sounds good. Then again, the Raiders could go into Max Protect formations.

  22. DutchRaider77 Says:

    The Patriots acutally ran a lot of double TE sets. We could (Hopefully) see Myers and Miller on the field and I bet Myers will have a big game. Heck Barnes has a good chance of getting another pass.

  23. Thec07 Says:

    Sounds good. Then again, the Raiders could go into Max Protect formations.
    +++++++++++++

    Play SMASHMOUTH…..This O is going to be scary dominate for yeas to come one these youngsters fully grow up…..

  24. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Barnes got way too much press for that TD pass, even won some “something of the week” I saw. It would be something they would keep an eye out for – so running that play on consecutive weeks may not work.

  25. inonewordraider Says:

    Were the second best run team in the league with the best RB in the league so just because others haven’t been able to run on them doesn’t mean we can’t. We run the ball we keep our D fresh and our front four destroys their Oline

  26. Thec07 Says:

    I have read a couple of blogs where they say, in order for picks to beat us throw 8 in the box…
    Force JC to beat us….

  27. Thec07 Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
    Were the second best run team in the league with the best RB in the league so just because others haven’t been able to run on them doesn’t mean we can’t. We run the ball we keep our D fresh and our front four destroys their Oline

    ++++++++++++++++

    I have to be honest here I truly beleive we will be able to do what we want…

  28. raidermarty Says:

    Yeah 909 Raider, the game will be on in so cal and i can’t be happier! This is 2 games in a row on tv down here now. Could be the start of getting our RAIDER football back down here again.Back when we were winning we were always on tv every sunday.
    SO CAL still loves the RAIDERS!!!!!!!
    Go RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Matchup wise believe it or not we should beat the Steelers. The Raiders have a better offense and a fairly even defense. You can give the Steelers something for home field advantage.

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010112103/2010/REG11/raiders@steelers#tab:analyze

  30. olinesux Says:

    is the moron outta here yet?

  31. priesttj Says:

    KK if you know anything about the Streets you would know that. So take it anywhere you think you need t take it.

    It was meant to be friendly advise for both sides…

  32. priesttj Says:

    I agree the Steelers best advantage is their at home. I even think our defense is better than there’s they have a very good run defense partly due to effectiveness and partly due to reputation.

  33. priesttj Says:

    Well Thec07 in all honesty the last 5 teams have tried that and 4 failed. So let ‘em think it until he beats them.

  34. KoolKell Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    KK if you know anything about the Streets you would know that. So take it anywhere you think you need t take it.

    It was meant to be friendly advise for both sides…
    ———————————–
    I’ve been from New York City to Eagle Pass,

    Playing society ho’s, and kickin biches like him in his no good assz.

    I beat chumps like them, for their clothes and money too.
    I would beat em for their tobacco,
    but all fools don’t chew.

    At the age of 1, I was drinking whiskey and Gin
    At the age of 2, I was eatin the bottles it came in.

    I got run out of S america for humpin steers.

  35. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    To borrow a phrase from ‘ol hot dog neck…

    I’m “geeked”, for this game on Sunday..

  36. KoolKell Says:

    I swam across muddy rivers and aint never got wet.
    Mountains have fell on me, and I ain’t dead yet.

    I rode across the ocean on the head of my dk,
    and ate 9 tons of catscht, and ain’t never got sick.

  37. priesttj Says:

    KK raping and repping Dolemite aint exactly the streets.

    But that aside it is where raping started with him and Gil. But needless to say that stuff don’t belong in here. This aint the steets.

  38. r8rwill Says:

    evenin’ nation,
    it is indeed a great day to be a raider fan.going into pittsburg has always been a yardstick on our team. i think we win.
    question is “who covers marcel reese?”

  39. KoolKell Says:

    I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday, Priesttj, ok?

    Next time you see Charlie Smith, ask him about KoolKell and his family.

  40. KoolKell Says:

    Or George Atkinson.

  41. Thec07 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    Well Thec07 in all honesty the last 5 teams have tried that and 4 failed. So let ‘em think it until he beats them.

    +++++++++++=

    I hear ya Bruh…Its about to be 5 of 6 that failed…

  42. Kirk Says:

    I haven’t anybody stop the spread formation all year.

    That’s why Hue Jackson calls the plays, Tom.

  43. Thec07 Says:

    2 teams will come out of the AFC West…

  44. priesttj Says:

    I know KK I know…..

    This Jason Campbell is lot better than people want to believe there are those that think he can’t play. If you sleep on this guy he will hurt you. I dare them to stack the box and sincerely hope they do. It’ll be a long day if they can’t get to Campbell in time.

  45. raidermarty Says:

    Well I do do think we’re gonna have to “scheme it up” a little bit because they’re probably gonna gear up to stop the run. But that’s what Hue seems to be good at is mixing it up and keeping teams a little off balanced. Question is can our pass offense be effective and move the chains? I say yes!

  46. Thec07 Says:

    Tj, when you think about it with our O thats all that picks can hope for is attacking the box….

    That qtr cover hocus pocus dropping harrison in coverage is going to egaul huge gains…

    They better guess right if they guess wrong, 3 games come to mind;

    Oak vs Den
    Den vs KC
    MVICK vs Wash

  47. M Lonetree Says:

    it has been very effective for McF to succeed since HueJack asked him what plays he preferred and was most comfortable with and then those plays have been implemented.
    asking JC the same question, well…he was very successful and comfortable handing off to Cadillac and Brown at Auburn…so…

  48. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Saw this on Quentin Groves’ twitter, thought I’d pass it along…

    “Success has a price, and it’s always paid in advance.”- – - Richard Seymour….

  49. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

  50. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 909RaiderLifer Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Saw this on Quentin Groves’ twitter, thought I’d pass it along…

    “Success has a price, and it’s always paid in advance.”- – – Richard Seymour….
    **********************************

    Good stuff

  51. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Bauce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Wuss good Pimp

  53. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    I know KK I know…..

    This Jason Campbell is lot better than people want to believe there are those that think he can’t play. If you sleep on this guy he will hurt you. I dare them to stack the box and sincerely hope they do. It’ll be a long day if they can’t get to Campbell in time.
    ******************************

    BHP….game gonna be tough anyway….Pitt playing for their season because looking at the AFC standings right now…..someone at 10-6 gonna get their feelings hurt

  54. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    PD Ocho Uno!!!!!….whats happening….what ya think? Khalif Barnes scores another TD and does the Chirs Farley Chippendale dance?

  55. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Oh u kno it…… Hahaha Khalif Barnes has replaced Brandon Myers as the 2nd best tight end on the team lol

  56. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Fat man Scoop status is being appreciated…as I told D-Racs….I’m working hard on my gut game

  57. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    KK raping and repping Dolemite aint exactly the streets.

    But that aside it is where raping started with him and Gil. But needless to say that stuff don’t belong in here. This aint the steets.
    *********************************

    Only a homo repeats what a homo like Rudy Ray Moore would say

  58. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Hahaha my gut game is solid….. MVP of the Gut Game

  59. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    PD81…..im such a rook at the gut game….i got some much to learn….so much to learn….. munch on

  60. KoolKell Says:

    Bottom line is, the Raiders are going to have to be efficient on 3rd downs, and in the Red Zone.

  61. VanHeathen Says:

    Q Groves passing on the knowledge dropped by our team leader Big Rich…
    Q KILLED it on Rome a couple weeks ago,
    guy is way cool!

  62. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    VanHeathen Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Q Groves passing on the knowledge dropped by our team leader Big Rich…
    Q KILLED it on Rome a couple weeks ago,
    guy is way cool
    ****************************

    Yeah i dig it

  63. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I love the way this team is coming together….. Its like a real brotherhood… They all wanna win and got each others back…. You couldnt say that last year…

  64. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    seymour is gonna get paid

  65. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    5-4 not bad. easily should of been 6-3. watching meaningful games have been hella fun though. cant wait till…

  66. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    I love the way this team is coming together….. Its like a real brotherhood… They all wanna win and got each others back…. You couldnt say that last year…
    *************************************

    Yep this is how this blog is becoming once we get the losers outta here

  67. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    5-4 not bad. easily should of been 6-3. watching meaningful games have been hella fun though. cant wait till…
    *****************************

    7-2

  68. JB Says:

    Game plan for Sunday:
    • Snap the ball
    • Move the chains
    • Get the 1st down
    • Repeat
    • Repeat
    • Repeat
    • Score 7
    • KO deep
    • Recover turnover
    • Back to step 1

    What is required is a solid game plan and patience. Hit them in the mouth and do it again. Wear them down. Frustrate them. Beat them some more. Take away their receivers, stuff their runners and sack their QB. Create takeaways. Dominate and win the game.

    There it is in a nutshell. We can do it. We have done it. We will do it again.

  69. VanHeathen Says:

    Don’t know if anyone posted this link in here…
    good article about the Raider Legends and Al.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1177896/1/index.htm

  70. 100PercentRaider Says:

    The thing i like about this matchup is that alot of hue’s coaching background came in the AFC North. This guy is familiar with the defense and the players in it. He played agaisnt them 2 (or ?)times last year with the Ravens. Give him 2 weeks to get ready, and i think he will have a good gameplan in place, it will be up to the players to execute. On defense I know that we have alot of sacks, but we have also missed oppurtunities for alot of others and that is bad news agaisnt Big Ben thats when he makes his biggest plays.

  71. VanHeathen Says:

    PD81.. I agree, watching this team become a team has been one of the more inspiring aspects of this season.
    Just Win Baby…

  72. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Thec I think its unlikely for 2 teams to come out of the West. Miami has the same record as us, and Pitt and NE are the wildcards right now at 6-3. To even think about the wild card we would have to beat pitt.

  73. VanHeathen Says:

    Gonna be a big priority for Wembley and Houston to keep Ben inthe pocket to be dropped by Big Rich and TK,
    prolly Shonasty will introduce himself too…

  74. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    7-2? 9er game o was supremely outplayed & texan game I thought we had a better chance if we caught the damn ball.

  75. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    raider d-line will eat the steeler o-line 4 breakfast.

  76. J Hill Says:

    Can’t wait to see what Hue cooks up for the Steelers.

  77. J Hill Says:

    We need to stay away from the pre snap penalties this week. Can’t afford to give them anything!

  78. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    haven’t watched much of the steelers this yr. but you got to think that their injury problems in the o-line has to be their biggest concern heading into sunday… now the raider d-line has been the best unit on the team this yr.

  79. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    J fuggin Heezy!

  80. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Just read that the guard Kemouatu is expected to play, he didnt last week. Also, Ward passed his concussion test today.

  81. J Hill Says:

    Wassup Peoples!

    Not really concerned about Pitts. I think our D should lead the way in this one.

    Hairamalu doesn’t play, game won’t be close.

  82. armond Says:

    bauce where them badazz biotches at?

  83. Try Some Reality Says:

    Booo-yah! Dam, I could hardly stay focused at work today. Looking forward to this game!! Don’t let me down fellas!!

  84. J Hill Says:

    guard Kemouatu is expected to play

    —————————————————

    A gimpy G against Seymour/Kelly/Henderson should work to our advantage.

  85. olinesux Says:

    need to run some misdirection screens…

  86. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    its a good matchup 4 the raiders. steelers are banged up a bit and we’re off the bye, confident, still hungry to prove a point 2 the league. i really believe the raiders have the advantage at the los, on both sides of the ball. huge on d. this is a type of game you have to put your foot on the throat of the opponent.

  87. armond Says:

    we will run the ball on pitt, just watch. the raiders will come out and match their intensity and physicality. that is what will make headlines as much as the win. we will play smashmouth football with enuff spread to kick azz. people are going to be shocked to see us ruff them up. dmc another 100 yd day and 2 tds. book it.

  88. djohnnyg Says:

    Does anybody ever proof read these articles before they get posted?

  89. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    start early, stay poised cuz u know the refs will give the steelers some calls, and plz dont run any halfback passes or fake punts.

  90. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    djohnnyg Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    Does anybody ever proof read these articles before they get posted?

    ///////////////////////

    y, who’s grading?

  91. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    a 3&out for the steelers would be a nice start.

  92. J Hill Says:

    So you have us coming out smashmouth and smacking them around Armond?

    Satele and Carlisle ready for that?

  93. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    till sunday…

  94. J Hill Says:

    and plz dont run any halfback passes or fake punts.

    ——————————————————

    Couldn’t agree more.

  95. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    oh yeah, refs call those damn holds when the big cranium scrambles. out!

  96. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    bauce where them badazz biotches at?
    ****************************

    You took em all off my hands!

  97. Dirtiest Raccoon Says:

    15.KoolKell Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    Norco Bob, has called my office, telling the marketing Mgr, who answered, I was drinking and making threatening phone calls to Jerry & Jon………

    I’ve gone to the police……..there’s a paper trail started.

    17.KoolKell Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    I, of course, save all the threats.

    **********

    KoolKell how/why do these folks have your contact information?

  98. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    I see this as a 24-20 game…..pitt will try to do their best to not fall behind bmore

  99. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    15.KoolKell Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    Norco Bob, has called my office, telling the marketing Mgr, who answered, I was drinking and making threatening phone calls to Jerry & Jon………

    I’ve gone to the police……..there’s a paper trail started.

    17.KoolKell Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
    I, of course, save all the threats.

    **********

    KoolKell how/why do these folks have your contact information?
    **************************

    He is lying

  100. Dirtiest Raccoon Says:

    KKell, why are you such a lil B!TCH?

  101. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    KKell, why are you such a lil B!TCH?
    ************************

    Cuz white wifey runs the house

  102. The DirtyRaccoon Says:

    98.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    I see this as a 24-20 game…..pitt will try to do their best to not fall behind bmore

    **********************************

    I see a RAIDER come back win. Down 10 in the forth Q.

    17-27 and win it 31-27

  103. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Whoever told me the La Quinta in El Paso was a good and safe place to stay was clearly lying to me.

    I am less than a mile from Juarez, not many business travel lodgers here I am learning, and I think I just heard gun shots.

    But there is a killer mexican joint right next door!!! And I here Jaquar’s is only a hop, skip and a jump away.

    Go Raiders

  104. Drixxel Says:

    I’m just fired up to know our players are working hard every week and coming out and surprising teams by showing up. Last year we prolly showed up to half of our games, and the Steelers was one of them. Certain games you have to win to keep your job. This year is totally different. They are playing football and putting up numbers and trying to win the division. That’s awesome.

  105. The DirtyRaccoon Says:

    102.The DirtyRaccoon Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
    98.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    I see this as a 24-20 game…..pitt will try to do their best to not fall behind bmore

    **********************************

    I see a RAIDER come back win. Down 10 in the forth Q.

    17-27 and win it 31-27, behind two late TD’s 1 from McFaddy, and 1 from BRUCE almighty!

  106. J Hill Says:

    I can’t see Pitt putting up 20 pts.

  107. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    I dont care how we win just get it done and come Nov 28th to the coliseum 6-4….Norco bob is rockin some turkey drumsticks on the grill ya dig

  108. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    I can’t see Pitt putting up 20 pts.
    **********************

    Big plays and turnovers

  109. Drixxel Says:

    This game is going to be a statement by the Raiders.

  110. 707raiders Says:

    Bauce what it do, I think I heard you on Damon Bruce the other day, just got my ticket to Miami

  111. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Yall crazy if you think we bout to just roll into pitt and they chopped liver

  112. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Bauce what it do, I think I heard you on Damon Bruce the other day, just got my ticket to Miami
    **************************

    LOL i went hard didnt I? Damon Bruce tried to cut me off and get in a word but it was impossible I was tkaing lil brother to the SFO ya dig

  113. Just Fire Baby Says:

    J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    I can’t see Pitt putting up 20 pts.

    ***************************

    Have they been held under 20 at home all year?

    We can’t rely on 17 points winning this game for us.

  114. 707raiders Says:

    We will win Sunday and shock the world! Ford will stretch the field and LM will have a good game.

  115. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    707…..yeah? you got that ticket mayne……thats whats up….alot of holiday cheer in da air for that one…..fugg with us dog…we gonna do the usual….drunk…maybe some tree game….just chillin

  116. J Hill Says:

    SeaBass kicks 3 FGs

    DMac scores

    Defense scores

    Raiders 23
    Pitt 16

  117. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    We will win Sunday and shock the world! Ford will stretch the field and LM will have a good game.
    *****************************

    Be tough but I feel we pull it out…..team just wants it i can sense it….they aint been out partying from what i been hearing

  118. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    SeaBass kicks 3 FGs

    DMac scores

    Defense scores

    Raiders 23
    Pitt 16
    ***************************

    Hmmmm okay i can dig that one…..how many sacks does Matt get?

  119. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Drixxel Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    This game is going to be a statement by the Raiders.
    *******************************

    I love it! NFL on notice and kissing our ass….dont grant any interviews to the media

  120. J Hill Says:

    Matt gets the sack that leads to the defensive TD!

  121. Drixxel Says:

    “I feel like people are just expecting us any time to fall back into (playing like) last year’s team, but I don’t think that’s something we’re going to do. If we can go out there and put up a win against Pittsburgh, we’re going to be able to show people that we are a for real team.” -D. McF

  122. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Matt gets the sack that leads to the defensive TD!
    *******************************

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh….all things Matt i will listen to ya

  123. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Drixxel Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    “I feel like people are just expecting us any time to fall back into (playing like) last year’s team, but I don’t think that’s something we’re going to do. If we can go out there and put up a win against Pittsburgh, we’re going to be able to show people that we are a for real team.” -D. McF
    *********************************

    BAUCE!

  124. 707raiders Says:

    Bauce, u did go hard I new it had to be u, good ish, ill be sitting in 138 row 9, tailgating in parking lot D.. go raiders!!!!!!

  125. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Mayne yall aint hearing me…..this Stylistics is just the groove

  126. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Bauce, u did go hard I new it had to be u, good ish, ill be sitting in 138 row 9, tailgating in parking lot D.. go raiders!!!!!!
    ****************************

    Haha you heard Damon go BAUCE!…..138? Ok you right near D-Racs….D-lot? Ok me and Bob go from A lot to D lot and mess with our patna Brad…..we gotta catch each other…..fugg wit me dawg

    bauce_2010@yahoo

  127. The DirtyRaccoon Says:

    122.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    # J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Matt gets the sack that leads to the defensive TD!
    *******************************

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh….all things Matt i will listen to ya

    ********************

    Agreed Matt Shonuff is becoming a beast! He comes in @ diff times, but it seams he always makes a play. I like Scott too, they make an awesome pairing.

  128. The DirtyRaccoon Says:

    126.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Bauce, u did go hard I new it had to be u, good ish, ill be sitting in 138 row 9, tailgating in parking lot D.. go raiders!!!!!!
    ****************************

    Haha you heard Damon go BAUCE!…..138? Ok you right near D-Racs….D-lot? Ok me and Bob go from A lot to D lot and mess with our patna Brad…..we gotta catch each other…..fugg wit me dawg

    bauce_2010@yahoo

    *******************

    Yep yep, sec 137…

  129. 707raiders Says:

    Will Chaz play at all this season? Will DHB play Sunday?

  130. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If I remember correctly, we are undefeated since I went on ranting about the power of the Killian’s Irish Red turning seasons around in Denver.

    Ya’ll might have thought it was a bunch of Tom Foolery, but that shat is golden for your boy, and our boys.

    Playoffs are a given at this point. I sense it.

  131. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # The DirtyRaccoon Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    122.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    # J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Matt gets the sack that leads to the defensive TD!
    *******************************

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh….all things Matt i will listen to ya

    ********************

    Agreed Matt Shonuff is becoming a beast! He comes in @ diff times, but it seams he always makes a play. I like Scott too, they make an awesome pairing.
    *********************************************

    Who is the mastaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hKh6ZQGOE

  132. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Will Chaz play at all this season? Will DHB play Sunday?
    **********************************

    DHB sux right now….Chazzir? My god if he was on the field and healthy we would kill…oh well

  133. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    If I remember correctly, we are undefeated since I went on ranting about the power of the Killian’s Irish Red turning seasons around in Denver.

    Ya’ll might have thought it was a bunch of Tom Foolery, but that shat is golden for your boy, and our boys.

    Playoffs are a given at this point. I sense it.
    ************************

    Who is the Qb?

  134. 707raiders Says:

    126.Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    # 707raiders Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    Bauce, u did go hard I new it had to be u, good ish, ill be sitting in 138 row 9, tailgating in parking lot D.. go raiders!!!!!!

    ****************************
    Haha you heard Damon go BAUCE!…..138? Ok you right near D-Racs….D-lot? Ok me and Bob go from A lot to D lot and mess with our patna Brad…..we gotta catch each other…..fugg wit me dawg
    bauce_2010@yahoo
    *******************
    Yep yep, sec 137…
    …..:………………
    Right on fellas, nothing better in the world than a Raider tailgate, hit me rburris_bfp@yahoo.com

  135. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Who is the Qb?

    ******************************

    The guy with the 29th ranked completion %

    Just fckn with it, it’s my main man Jason Campbell!! I thought you knew??

  136. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    126.Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    # 707raiders Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    Bauce, u did go hard I new it had to be u, good ish, ill be sitting in 138 row 9, tailgating in parking lot D.. go raiders!!!!!!

    ****************************
    Haha you heard Damon go BAUCE!…..138? Ok you right near D-Racs….D-lot? Ok me and Bob go from A lot to D lot and mess with our patna Brad…..we gotta catch each other…..fugg wit me dawg
    bauce_2010@yahoo
    *******************
    Yep yep, sec 137…
    …..:………………
    Right on fellas, nothing better in the world than a Raider tailgate, hit me rburris_bfp@yahoo.com
    *********************************

    Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh just hit that inbox bruh

  137. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Who is the Qb?

    ******************************

    The guy with the 29th ranked completion %

    Just fckn with it, it’s my main man Jason Campbell!! I thought you knew??
    ***************************

    LOL……too funny

    Bet ya feel high and mighty after Giants popped their bay cherry

  138. djohnnyg Says:

    119.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    # Drixxel Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    This game is going to be a statement by the Raiders.
    *******************************

    I love it! NFL on notice and kissing our ass….dont grant any interviews to the media

    Yeah, with no interviews they’ll just make up their own stories about how Al Davis is got into a fist fight with Fassell and Cable is having an affair with Amy Trask etc. They’ll make up their own stories for spite.

  139. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # djohnnyg Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    119.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    # Drixxel Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    This game is going to be a statement by the Raiders.
    *******************************

    I love it! NFL on notice and kissing our ass….dont grant any interviews to the media

    Yeah, with no interviews they’ll just make up their own stories about how Al Davis is got into a fist fight with Fassell and Cable is having an affair with Amy Trask etc. They’ll make up their own stories for spite.
    ****************************

    You know it too…..media hacks

  140. armond Says:

    96.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    bauce where them badazz biotches at?
    ****************************

    You took em all off my hands!

    ——————————————————-
    yeah i and threw em right back!!!! now thats BAUCE HAHAHA

  141. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    96.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    bauce where them badazz biotches at?
    ****************************

    You took em all off my hands!

    ——————————————————-
    yeah i and threw em right back!!!! now thats BAUCE HAHAHA
    ******************************

    HAHAHAHAHA church!

  142. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Armond mayne…..when u out to da game mayne? At least u gotta mess with tailgate for xmas time mayne? Feel me mayne?

  143. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’ll give El Paso it’s props. Been here a few times but never went out or to the college area.

    There are some fine ass latina’s here, who look like college bookworms, with pornstar booties.

    I have a newfound respect for JLH. Go Miners!!

  144. armond Says:

    Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    So you have us coming out smashmouth and smacking them around Armond?

    Satele and Carlisle ready for that?

    ——————————————————-
    hell yeah i do. we arent a air it out team like the pats. i expect us to do what we do but mix in a little spread like cable said. we cant be scared to run just cuz its pittsburg. we will try to be balanced but dmc must be a factor. wouldnt be surprised if he goes off. too much is made about pitt being mad but fugg them. we are much better now and i expect us to make a statement. instead of waitng for the fight to start we will start it ourselves.

  145. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    I’ll give El Paso it’s props. Been here a few times but never went out or to the college area.

    There are some fine ass latina’s here, who look like college bookworms, with pornstar booties.

    I have a newfound respect for JLH. Go Miners!!
    ********************************************

    Dayum I’m hella jealous right now….dealing with these stuck up Cali bzies can be challenging….i like them smaller town least resistance twerkers….they wit da biz

  146. 707raiders Says:

    Nam, miller, Hend, practicing all s great sign, Hella excited!!!

  147. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    So you have us coming out smashmouth and smacking them around Armond?

    Satele and Carlisle ready for that?

    ——————————————————-
    hell yeah i do. we arent a air it out team like the pats. i expect us to do what we do but mix in a little spread like cable said. we cant be scared to run just cuz its pittsburg. we will try to be balanced but dmc must be a factor. wouldnt be surprised if he goes off. too much is made about pitt being mad but fugg them. we are much better now and i expect us to make a statement. instead of waitng for the fight to start we will start it ourselves.
    *******************************

    Exactly…if there is a mufugga in our way then there is a mufugga who is not

  148. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    This year has been about true change in this organization as well as the people who follow the team….even I…the Bauce had to change…..I admittedly was wrong getting caught into the you not from here BS….the LA vs Bay crap….we all gotta come together as brothers of the Raider Nation because this is our time now. These long suffering joke years where people picked at us and the holidays thru Feb extra depressing took a toll on us all…..but them days are over

  149. armond Says:

    142.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    Armond mayne…..when u out to da game mayne? At least u gotta mess with tailgate for xmas time mayne? Feel me mayne?

    ——————————————————-
    dude i tried hittin up your email before the chiefs game but it wouldnt send. i dont know if its cuz of my hotmail account or what. i def want to hit up that indy game especially if its a flex sched game.

  150. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Nam, miller, Hend, practicing all s great sign, Hella excited!!!
    *********************************

    Team wants that ass now! We dont want some we want alot!

  151. SnB Production Says:

    DHB has hurt his ankle — Sounds like an explanation rebels give during a military coup.

    Where’s the leader? Answer – Oh, he’s sick…..

    LOL

  152. 707raiders Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    I’ll give El Paso it’s props. Been here a few times but never went out or to the college area.
    There are some fine ass latina’s here, who look like college bookworms, with pornstar booties.
    I have a newfound respect for JLH. Go Miners!!
    Dayum I’m hella jealous right now….dealing with these stuck up Cali bzies can be challenging….i like them smaller town least resistance twerkers….they wit da biz
    ….:……..
    Lmao real talk,

  153. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    142.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    Armond mayne…..when u out to da game mayne? At least u gotta mess with tailgate for xmas time mayne? Feel me mayne?

    ——————————————————-
    dude i tried hittin up your email before the chiefs game but it wouldnt send. i dont know if its cuz of my hotmail account or what. i def want to hit up that indy game especially if its a flex sched game.
    ********************************

    Armond….. a sunday night game on NBC inthe town? Day after we all get fked up watching NBA,NCAA and NFL games? Gonna be extra mainy…..that game gonna be special….i got some words for Peyton too if i get inthe gate early enough….rough at time cuz im partying hard with Norco bob and others

  154. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # SnB Production Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    DHB has hurt his ankle — Sounds like an explanation rebels give during a military coup.

    Where’s the leader? Answer – Oh, he’s sick…..

    LOL
    *****************************

    The blog Defensive MVP in the building!

    You give em hell for us on sunday mayne!

  155. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    # Just Fire Baby Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    I’ll give El Paso it’s props. Been here a few times but never went out or to the college area.
    There are some fine ass latina’s here, who look like college bookworms, with pornstar booties.
    I have a newfound respect for JLH. Go Miners!!
    Dayum I’m hella jealous right now….dealing with these stuck up Cali bzies can be challenging….i like them smaller town least resistance twerkers….they wit da biz
    ….:……..
    Lmao real talk,
    *********************************

    On everything….Denver…..big time come up….you going home with something cool that night too

  156. RaiderRetribution Says:

    The Raiders’ front seven should be in the backfield all day against the Steelers’ o-line.

  157. armond Says:

    cali batches gettin on my nerves. too damn phony and high maintenance.some of these heffas think they all hollywood with only 5 bills to they name. dont expect me to pay fa schit no mo. broad over the weekend pulled some bullsch!t. how the fugg you gon expect to hang out and u aint got no money? gettin my damn 30 dollas back fa sho, fugg what my momma say!!!

  158. djohnnyg Says:

    ‘ol hot dog neck…

    Haha. Ole “Hot Dog Neck”? That is good.

    I can just hear Don Criqui say “Well, looks like Ole Hot Dog Neck just called a time out”. Then Brian Baldinger says; “Yeah, Ole Hot Dog Neck has really got this team playing well today”.

    I hope it sticks.

  159. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Seymour & Mr. Shaunessey will get a lot of special teams; therefore Mr. Houston needs to have a big game, he should have at least 2 sacks Sunday.

  160. 707raiders Says:

    SnB Production Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 9:37 pmDHB has hurt his ankle — Sounds like an explanation rebels give during a military coup.
    Where’s the leader? Answer – Oh, he’s sick…..
    LOL
    ……………………….
    Agreed

  161. SnB Production Says:

    Bauce,

    Nation will be represented as arrogant and as loud as possible.

    Only 1 real nation!

  162. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    cali batches gettin on my nerves. too damn phony and high maintenance.some of these heffas think they all hollywood with only 5 bills to they name. dont expect me to pay fa schit no mo. broad over the weekend pulled some bullsch!t. how the fugg you gon expect to hang out and u aint got no money? gettin my damn 30 dollas back fa sho, fugg what my momma say!!!
    *******************************

    Feel ya bruh…..this BZ just texted me trying to get me to pick her up over by O high and I live in San Leandro,,,so i gotta pick her up….go back to my crib….then take her back and she aint got no gas money for my Explorer? Broad got the game twisted….what she think this is? She just a runna for a playa like me not my main

  163. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # SnB Production Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Bauce,

    Nation will be represented as arrogant and as loud as possible.

    Only 1 real nation!
    *****************************

    Man i feel sorry for ya…you have to look at those iron city ugly ass Western PA women in the mug

  164. SnB Production Says:

    Key to winning this weekend…and allowing me to sling it to the Steeler fans in that stadium.

    Stop the run…take Mendenhall and Moore out of the game. ~ John Henderson! ~ Keep the score low and allow the offense to stay in game plan

    No turnovers on offense

    Get the running game going and protect the QB

  165. SnB Production Says:

    Bauce,

    Its all business on Sunday!

    Raiders lock down that wildcard this weekend!

  166. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # SnB Production Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Key to winning this weekend…and allowing me to sling it to the Steeler fans in that stadium.

    Stop the run…take Mendenhall and Moore out of the game. ~ John Henderson! ~ Keep the score low and allow the offense to stay in game plan

    No turnovers on offense

    Get the running game going and protect the QB
    # SnB Production Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Bauce,

    Its all business on Sunday!

    Raiders lock down that wildcard this weekend!
    ************************************

    Damn right Def MVP! We must handle biz….stopping run in Nov and Dec is how you compete in January….i dunno know bout others but I’m talking January because this team has something special going on I think

  167. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # RaiderRetribution Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Mr. Seymour & Mr. Shaunessey will get a lot of special teams; therefore Mr. Houston needs to have a big game, he should have at least 2 sacks Sunday.
    *********************************

    You know what? I wouldnt be least bit shocked if Lamarr just went wild on them. seems like his type of game

  168. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    John Henderson is back….now what yall NFL runnig backs gonna do? No more 250 yard rushing games for ya….then you gotta deal with our pass rush…and you dont want us to blitz….so just give up now

  169. armond Says:

    162.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    cali batches gettin on my nerves. too damn phony and high maintenance.some of these heffas think they all hollywood with only 5 bills to they name. dont expect me to pay fa schit no mo. broad over the weekend pulled some bullsch!t. how the fugg you gon expect to hang out and u aint got no money? gettin my damn 30 dollas back fa sho, fugg what my momma say!!!
    *******************************

    Feel ya bruh…..this BZ just texted me trying to get me to pick her up over by O high and I live in San Leandro,,,so i gotta pick her up….go back to my crib….then take her back and she aint got no gas money for my Explorer? Broad got the game twisted….what she think this is? She just a runna for a playa like me not my main

    ——————————————————-
    exactly!! i may have to do like corey holcomb say and get a nice average one that appreciate sch!t. they do whatever the fugg u want with no worries. these dime beezies aint worth the price of admission. have some fun with em then be gone. when the right 1 come along youll know. but until then, bauce time!!

  170. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    I just feel we got a team period….i remember discussing in summer how much depth we have on this team especially on defense….Seymour and Kelly took offense to that Houston game and was appalled the SF game…..as long as the D follows their lead and plays with chip on shoulder we should see past january 2nd in KC

  171. SnB Production Says:

    With Henderson back in the rotation there is nowhere for the running back to go.

    Shaughnessy and Houston bring’em inside and Henderson blocks the patch, absorbs blockers allowing the LBs and Seymour/Kelly to clean up!

  172. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    162.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    cali batches gettin on my nerves. too damn phony and high maintenance.some of these heffas think they all hollywood with only 5 bills to they name. dont expect me to pay fa schit no mo. broad over the weekend pulled some bullsch!t. how the fugg you gon expect to hang out and u aint got no money? gettin my damn 30 dollas back fa sho, fugg what my momma say!!!
    *******************************

    Feel ya bruh…..this BZ just texted me trying to get me to pick her up over by O high and I live in San Leandro,,,so i gotta pick her up….go back to my crib….then take her back and she aint got no gas money for my Explorer? Broad got the game twisted….what she think this is? She just a runna for a playa like me not my main

    ——————————————————-
    exactly!! i may have to do like corey holcomb say and get a nice average one that appreciate sch!t. they do whatever the fugg u want with no worries. these dime beezies aint worth the price of admission. have some fun with em then be gone. when the right 1 come along youll know. but until then, bauce time!!
    *******************************************

    NO HE DIDNT…Corey Holcomb is too funnny! He be killin and most women hate his truth!

  173. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # SnB Production Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    With Henderson back in the rotation there is nowhere for the running back to go.

    Shaughnessy and Houston bring’em inside and Henderson blocks the patch, absorbs blockers allowing the LBs and Seymour/Kelly to clean up!
    ************************************Hell yes!

  174. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Man what name can we get for this defense?

    Mistabrown said Marshall Law….best Ive heard so far

    I had Army of Darkness but now I’m just thinking

    B.A.D Defense….Bad Ass Dudes

  175. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Everytime I see Seymour since SD game it looks like he wants to fight and beat someone’s ass….I love it. We got hard hitters at all 3 levels of the defense…..let’s get it on!

  176. armond Says:

    bottom line is we have to score tds and early. we must have atleast 4 big plays of 30 or more yds in this game. they dont give up alot of long drives so u have to get them long when the chance is there. thats how we can loosen them up. this is where we need dmc to give us some of those 60-80 yds tds runs he did at arkansas. im expecting the unexpected cuz its about time we do it. im sick of all this damn steeler talk. fugg them!!

  177. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Armond……fuch em and chuck em…..your best bet in Cali….these broads are foul….i see how they do these squares from afar….nada worse than you sitting next to broad while she naked and she lying to her man….im like..HOW CAN I TRUST em?

  178. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    bottom line is we have to score tds and early. we must have atleast 4 big plays of 30 or more yds in this game. they dont give up alot of long drives so u have to get them long when the chance is there. thats how we can loosen them up. this is where we need dmc to give us some of those 60-80 yds tds runs he did at arkansas. im expecting the unexpected cuz its about time we do it. im sick of all this damn steeler talk. fugg them!!
    *******************************

    We 8.5 point dogs……cant believe that shhht…..but its all good…Vegas dont determine who wins…..I think

  179. Asomugha, Henderson And Miller Limited In Practice As Steelers Loom | Sports Journey Broadcast Network | Serious sports talk for the serious fan Says:

    [...] amount,” Cable said when asked just how much they were able to do during practice, per the Oakland Tribune. “We want to kind of put them so through some things today and see how they feel Thursday. If [...]

  180. Drixxel Says:

    We were 7 point dogs to the Chargers and the Broncos and we know how that turned out.

  181. armond Says:

    yeah he did b and its the truth. they hate em but i luv that sch!t. too many comedians be kissin they azz with that puzzy eatin and club routine bullsch!t. dont no real playas go thru all that behind no trick.

  182. Try Some Reality Says:

    Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Man what name can we get for this defense?

    Mistabrown said Marshall Law….best Ive heard so far

    I had Army of Darkness but now I’m just thinking

    B.A.D Defense….Bad Ass Dudes

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Well, since you’re asking this right before the Pitt game….and since those b@stards were one of the first to reuse our trademark “Nation” term, I say we should call our Defense “The Black Curtain”

  183. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Drixxel Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    We were 7 point dogs to the Chargers and the Broncos and we know how that turned out.
    **************************

    A silver and black boot to the ass

  184. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    yeah he did b and its the truth. they hate em but i luv that sch!t. too many comedians be kissin they azz with that puzzy eatin and club routine bullsch!t. dont no real playas go thru all that behind no trick.
    ********************************

    BAUCE!

  185. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Man what name can we get for this defense?

    Mistabrown said Marshall Law….best Ive heard so far

    I had Army of Darkness but now I’m just thinking

    B.A.D Defense….Bad Ass Dudes

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Well, since you’re asking this right before the Pitt game….and since those b@stards were one of the first to reuse our trademark “Nation” term, I say we should call our Defense “The Black Curtain”
    **************************************

    HELL YEAH…..I love it….and what are they gonna do about it? Nada

  186. 707raiders Says:

    Marshall law best describes our D, good call!!!!!

  187. KoolKell Says:

    100PercentRaider Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    The thing i like about this matchup is that alot of hue’s coaching background came in the AFC North. This guy is familiar with the defense and the players in it. He played agaisnt them 2 (or ?)times last year with the Ravens. Give him 2 weeks to get ready, and i think he will have a good gameplan in place, it will be up to the players to execute. On defense I know that we have alot of sacks, but we have also missed oppurtunities for alot of others and that is bad news agaisnt Big Ben thats when he makes his biggest plays.
    ——————————
    Good Point.

  188. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    awww the spinners are on now……beat that! Love Dont Love Nobody

  189. Try Some Reality Says:

    That shoud p1ss off those yellow diaper rag swinging b@stards!

    The Black Curtain coming at your azz!!!

  190. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Marshall law best describes our D, good call!!!!!
    ********************************

    MistaBrown deserves his due

  191. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # Try Some Reality Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    That shoud p1ss off those yellow diaper rag swinging b@stards!

    The Black Curtain coming at your azz!!!
    ******************************

    I approve of this message…..BAUCE! Now that is some reality for ya ass!

  192. armond Says:

    177.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
    Armond……fuch em and chuck em…..your best bet in Cali….these broads are foul….i see how they do these squares from afar….nada worse than you sitting next to broad while she naked and she lying to her man….im like..HOW CAN I TRUST em?

    ——————————————————-
    we mustve been separated at birth cuz ive seen the same sch!t. ive seen the lies with a straight look on they face and then they get mad when u bounce after that.its a chick i tried to holla at that came at me the next day askin if i mind that she had a bf. im like damn i wouldnt holla at her if i knew that. only cuz im cool i didnt pursue her but she was down to kick it. she claimed to be the strong independent type so nothin wouldve happened. yeah until i put that cool on her.

  193. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # armond Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    177.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
    Armond……fuch em and chuck em…..your best bet in Cali….these broads are foul….i see how they do these squares from afar….nada worse than you sitting next to broad while she naked and she lying to her man….im like..HOW CAN I TRUST em?

    ——————————————————-
    we mustve been separated at birth cuz ive seen the same sch!t. ive seen the lies with a straight look on they face and then they get mad when u bounce after that.its a chick i tried to holla at that came at me the next day askin if i mind that she had a bf. im like damn i wouldnt holla at her if i knew that. only cuz im cool i didnt pursue her but she was down to kick it. she claimed to be the strong independent type so nothin wouldve happened. yeah until i put that cool on her.
    ***************************

    Independent women=zzzzzzzzzzzzz means no guidance or direction

  194. 707raiders Says:

    Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 10:05 pm# 707raiders Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
    Marshall law best describes our D, good call!!!!!

    ********************************
    MistaBrown deserves his due
    ………………….
    Hood ish mista Brown

  195. KoolKell Says:

    Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    KoolKell how/why do these folks have your contact information?
    ———————————-
    If you don’t know what you’re talking about you need to stay out of it, and mind your own simple azz business.

    Everybody here who’s been posting here a while, knows damned well how they got my contact info.

  196. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    Armond i look at it like this…..if a bz mess with me something gotta be wrong cuz I’m fa sho not a good guy lol….and i let it be known….sad thing is they respect a scumbag but diss the nice dudes who will treat them right

  197. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders 17 Steelers 6

  198. Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    # 707raiders Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Bauce 2 Dope Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 10:05 pm# 707raiders Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
    Marshall law best describes our D, good call!!!!!

    ********************************
    MistaBrown deserves his due
    ………………….
    Hood ish mista Brown
    ****************************

    MistaBrown is cool as hell….ppl dont know a damn thing

  199. armond Says:

    196.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
    Armond i look at it like this…..if a bz mess with me something gotta be wrong cuz I’m fa sho not a good guy lol….and i let it be known….sad thing is they respect a scumbag but diss the nice dudes who will treat them right

    ——————————————————-
    haha thats true!! which is why im up front on a cool level but refuse to stay invloved with em. its funny cuz u can be an ahole and they respect u but be nice and they think u a puzz.

  200. DaRayduh Says:

    174.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    Man what name can we get for this defense?

    Mistabrown said Marshall Law….best Ive heard so far

    I had Army of Darkness but now I’m just thinking

    B.A.D Defense….Bad Ass Dudes

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    The Oakland Raiders impose Marshal Law on Pittsburgh when Ben Rottenburger and his mthr-fking offensive ass bites attempted some offensive behavior that was detrimental to Oaklands post seaon drive. The Raiders would have nothing to do with that. Rottenburgers outburst was incongruous to the defense, and the unanimous decision to enforce Marshall Law on the bastards was quickly enacted, removing sh1thead and company from the field to the bench. No arrest were made. Marshall Law quickly solved the problem.

  201. armond Says:

    next year we need to get rg/rt wr wlb fb db. need depth and toughness inside on the oline and a reliable wr whether its a veteran or a rookie. a true olb is a must to complete the front 7 and a ballhawk to take advantage of that front 7 is required. we have to get more ints. a lead blocking fb will also free up reece as well as taking that running game to a new level.

  202. priesttj Says:

    Armond I like the versatility between Scott and Groves and Howard for WLB. We need to continue to get a edge rushers and DT’s and add depth to the Oline. I want a young promising QB and and possesion WR and I definitely want a scatback just in case DMC gets nicked because when he was out we suffered this year we need that lightning out of the backfield.

  203. Guy Says:

    Scott has been pretty disappointing this year, even as a situational pass rusher. He occasionally gets some pressure, but not many sacks. I think he was best as an OLB pass rushing. He may have a chance as a 3-4 OLB

  204. armond Says:

    priest i forgot about de cuz we only have 3. there are some good olbs next year we cant pass on. i dont like many qbs that much next year which is why i dont mind waiting. i would love to have shane vereen or jacquizz rodgers as a 3rd rb. what college wrs do u like and would u make a play for vincent jackson?

  205. priesttj Says:

    Armond you took the words out of my mouth with Rodgers and Vereen. They are exactly what I had envisioned. I’m not sure who you’re thinking about in terms of OLB.

    The WR’s i like are not big names but they are what I think would be great physical types that can move the chains. One is Greg Little of UNC and David Ausberry of USC there are others but we can get those 2 cheap and they’re big targets who aare hard to bring down.

  206. Asomugha, Henderson And Miller Limited In Practice As Steelers Loom | Sports Journey Says:

    [...] amount,” Cable said when asked just how much they were able to do during practice, per the Oakland Tribune. “We want to kind of put them so through some things today and see how they feel Thursday. If [...]

  207. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Another college WR I think could be a good late round pick is Marvin McNutt from Iowa. 4 year starter with solid hands. he always makes big catches

  208. 100PercentRaider Says:

    From Vit Tafur on the SF Chron blog:

    No Sapp: Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” host James Brown said that Cable turned down an appearance on the show because he didn’t want to appear with co-host and former-Raider Warren Sapp. Nice.

  209. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Yeah Cable!

  210. JB Says:

    # 100PercentRaider Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    From Vit Tafur on the SF Chron blog:

    No Sapp: Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” host James Brown said that Cable turned down an appearance on the show because he didn’t want to appear with co-host and former-Raider Warren Sapp. Nice.
    ****************

    Way to go TC!

  211. 100PercentRaider Says:

    This is some funny sh!t

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d81c058e9/Sound-FX-Cable-guides-Raiders-to-big-win

    Tom Cable was miked up for the KC game

  212. ArmChair GM Says:

    # 100PercentRaider Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    From Vit Tafur on the SF Chron blog:

    No Sapp: Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” host James Brown said that Cable turned down an appearance on the show because he didn’t want to appear with co-host and former-Raider Warren Sapp. Nice.
    ______________________________________________________

    This man bleeds Silver & Black.

    Anybody that calls for Cable to be fired at this point should be taken to the middle of the field at the Oakland Coliseum at our next home game and pimp slapped by Big John Henderson.

  213. ArmChair GM Says:

    The Steelers Steel Curtain defense meets the Raiders ‘Marshall Law’ defense.

    I love it!

  214. Drexl Says:

    I am gEEked to see how CWimbley/QGroves handle containing Ben’s scrambles, and how TK, Sey, MS,& LH wrap Ben up and tackle his ass to the ground. The key to this game IMO.

  215. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # 100PercentRaider Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    From Vit Tafur on the SF Chron blog:

    No Sapp: Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” host James Brown said that Cable turned down an appearance on the show because he didn’t want to appear with co-host and former-Raider Warren Sapp. Nice.

    …………………

    “Cable turned down”. LOL. Right.

  216. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders and DMC hope to earn respect by stuffing the Steelers

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives/exclusives_20

  217. M Lonetree Says:

    Bom dia Nacao!

  218. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Excitement is boiling…I hate bye weeks, dammit!
    Anyways…funny how Cable said that he turned down an interview on Inside the NFL because he did not want to be with Sapp! LMFAO!!!

  219. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 1:36 am
    # 100PercentRaider Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    From Vit Tafur on the SF Chron blog:

    No Sapp: Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” host James Brown said that Cable turned down an appearance on the show because he didn’t want to appear with co-host and former-Raider Warren Sapp. Nice.

    …………………

    “Cable turned down”. LOL. Right.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hahhaahah, indeed. Cable seems like the kind of guy who’d welcome the opportunity to defend himself and his team from Sapp.

    The orders not to go on the show came from the guy who signs Cable’s paycheck.

  220. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Mornin’ Nation!

    Rockin’ the DMac jersey at work today til they tell me to take it off. And then I’ll do the same tomorrow.

    Been talking 5 tons of trash this week….don’t let me down, boys!

  221. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    100PercentRaider Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 12:07 am
    This is some funny sh!t

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d81c058e9/Sound-FX-Cable-guides-Raiders-to-big-win

    Tom Cable was miked up for the KC game

    +++++++++++++++++

    Videos are blocked here; did they have the clip of his reaction when Ryan Lilja false started before that 4th and 1 attempt before the fake punt?

    “OH HE MOVED HE MOVED HE MOVED HE MOVED!”

  222. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Guy Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
    Scott has been pretty disappointing this year, even as a situational pass rusher. He occasionally gets some pressure, but not many sacks. I think he was best as an OLB pass rushing. He may have a chance as a 3-4 OLB

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Been saying this all season; he could be nice trade bait on draft day to move up in a round.

  223. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!

  224. r8eray Says:

    Three cheers, cause that was awesome….hip hip..hooray!
    Hip hip…hooray…hip hip..hooray!!!!

  225. r8eray Says:

    Raiders won’t attack Steelers in same way Patriots did

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 18, 2010, 8:39 AM EST

    New England had some success spreading the Steelers defense out last Sunday night, but that’s not the Raiders style. Oakland has improved offensively this year with power running and play-action passing. Don’t expect them to change.

    “We’re really not [built that way],” Cable said via the Oakland Tribune. “We have to be who we are. At the same time, you look at some of the issues that they had on Sunday night was about spreading them out and mixing them up. . . . At the end of the day, be who you are and you might mix in a few things.”

    (It’s worth noting the Patriots also had plenty of success against Pittsburgh in two-tight end power formations.)

    One reason it may be tougher for the Raiders to spread out the Steelers is that they are short at wide receiver. Darrius Heyward-Bey strained his hamstring at practice during the bye week and it sounds like he won’t play this week. Chaz Schilens, meanwhile, may not return this season, according to Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle. It sounds like his knee isn’t recovering well.

    Raiders-Steelers should be a fun matchup to watch because it will pit strength-on-strength. Oakland’s ground game is second in yards and third in yards-per-carry this year. The Steelers are first in both categories.

  226. Just Fire Baby Says:

    To bad for Chaz Schilens. It seems closer and closer to him never playing again.

    A shame that he had to have his few years in the league playing with Jamarcus Russell. Would have liked to see what he can do for a full year under a real offense and a real QB.

  227. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Vegas!

  228. Jimbo Says:

    Good Morning AM crew!

  229. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Morning buddy!!

    Good thing about a busy work week? It’s Thursday already!!!

    About 75 hours until kickoff.

  230. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Raiders-Steelers should be a fun matchup to watch because it will pit strength-on-strength

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Impose our will along the line of scrimmage = win. Don’t do that and it’s a loss.

  231. r8eray Says:

    Quick question….is Seymour a team captain?

  232. Jimbo Says:

    Most media outlets are talking about how the Steel Curtain is going to shut down DMC.

    They don’t have any respect.

  233. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:37 am
    To bad for Chaz Schilens. It seems closer and closer to him never playing again.

    A shame that he had to have his few years in the league playing with Jamarcus Russell. Would have liked to see what he can do for a full year under a real offense and a real QB.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Jerry’s right when he says that there’s no real point to cut Schilens because he has good talent at a 7th rounder’s salary. But it’s getting to the point that I think another training camp injury next year means he’s cut. They can only afford to have him sucking up a roster spot for so long, especially now that they’re getting good.

    I agree that it’s a damn shame he was stuck with JaDrank. Schilens looked pretty awesome with the worst QB of the last 10 years throwing to him. A whole season with Campbell and Grads (no world beaters, but at least competent!) would’ve been nice to see.

  234. Jimbo Says:

    Some are trying to manufacture a QB controversy and allude that Cable will pull the plug quickly on Campbell if he gets off to a slow start.

  235. Jimbo Says:

    I agree that Chaz is cheap and easy to roster. They could keep him like Miller till week 16, I guess.

    But why? What would be the point?

    Why not sign Grove and work on getting him to speed. The center position is paper thin, and we can’t rely on Satele.

    I don’t know why we don’t just move on from Schilens.

  236. r8eray Says:

    I don’t think the Steel Curtain has seen a running back like DMC calibur!

    Steelers have kept RB’s under 100 yrds rushing this season, not this Sunday.
    I see DMC having a 120 yrds rush., 1 TD, 4 rec. 45 yard game!

  237. Jimbo Says:

    r8eray Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:49 am
    I don’t think the Steel Curtain has seen a running back like DMC calibur!

    Steelers have kept RB’s under 100 yrds rushing this season, not this Sunday.
    I see DMC having a 120 yrds rush., 1 TD, 4 rec. 45 yard game!

    ********

    I agree. The Steelers are banged up, but still have the speedy LBs, that does worry me a bit.

    But it’s not unlike the Seahawk game in that regard. Weak DT’s plus strong LB’s and we still dominated the LOS.

  238. r8eray Says:

    R8eray Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:49 am
    I don’t think the Steel Curtain has seen a running back like DMC calibur!
    THIS SEASON!

  239. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Why not sign Grove and work on getting him to speed. The center position is paper thin, and we can’t rely on Satele.

    I don’t know why we don’t just move on from Schilens.

    +++++++++++++

    They’d cut Bruce Davis first and rightfully so. Which, by the way, I’d wish they’d do and sign Grove.

    What if Satele shreds a knee on the first play of the game? Then it’s Veldheer to center and Mario Henderson in at LT and my confidence in winning the game takes a drop.

  240. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Jimbo Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:46 am
    Some are trying to manufacture a QB controversy and allude that Cable will pull the plug quickly on Campbell if he gets off to a slow start.
    ===============================
    No way! According to Mystic1, this will be Campbell’s coming out party as the next Jim Plunkett. And I’ll be there to see it.

  241. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I see DMC having a 120 yrds rush., 1 TD, 4 rec. 45 yard game!

    +++++++++++++++

    Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if DMac gets only 50-75 yards on the ground, but cuts them up for like 8 receptions for 85 yards and a touchdown or two.

    This is a game to take advantage of his versatility. Marcel Reece too for that matter.

  242. Jimbo Says:

    People around the league don’t know what to think of the Raiders. At first they give them props, but now you see the old disrespect is setting in. People are betting on the Steelers.

    They don’t believe. Raiders will emerge from this game with a win, and still they wont believe.

  243. r8eray Says:

    Looks like Polamalu might not play….
    He sat out practice, yesterday!

  244. bcz24 Says:

    Troy Polamalu is on the injury report with an Achilles injury…

  245. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    r8eray Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:54 am
    Looks like Polamalu might not play….
    He sat out practice, yesterday!

    +++++++++

    Oh man, I hope he can’t go. No Polamalu, no Aaron Smith? Awww, HELL YEAH. Those are the two guys that make that defense go

  246. Jimbo Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:53 am
    Jimbo Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 6:46 am
    Some are trying to manufacture a QB controversy and allude that Cable will pull the plug quickly on Campbell if he gets off to a slow start.
    ===============================
    No way! According to Mystic1, this will be Campbell’s coming out party as the next Jim Plunkett. And I’ll be there to see it.

    ********

    To give you a flavor of the Raider-hate I have been reading on another website:

    “The Raiders have been playing well in each of the last three games, en route to a three game winning streak. In that stretch, Jason Campbell took over for an injured Bruce Gradkowski. This week Gradkowski is back to 100% healthy, but HC Tom Cable is going with Campbell as his starter.

    The Raiders travel across the country to Pittsburgh, who is coming off an embarrassing Monday Night Football loss to the Patriots. Interestingly enough, Gradkowski, who grew up in Pittsburgh, is one of only a handful of QBs who has ever passed for 300 yards with 3 TD passes as an opposing QB at Pittsburgh. He did so last year in a win with Oakland. I’m sure that must be going through Tom Cable’s mind.

    If Campbell struggles, don’t be surprised to see Gradkowski enter the game in the second half.

    Teams cannot run on the Steelers, so they don’t even try. In fact, opposing QBs have attempted at least 33 passes against the Steelers in every game since week 4. The Steelers have also allowed 7 TD passes in the last three games. If Jason Campbell can’t stretch the field against PIT, look for Gradkowski to get a chance.

    Louis Murphy is expected back, as is Zach Miller. Jacoby Ford is also someone to target as a flex option this week. Don’t be afraid of the Steelers defense, unless we’re talking about RBs.

    Darren McFadden is not a good start, but he could see 4+ catches in the game to give him some additional receiving stats.

  247. Jimbo Says:

    I hope that Cable isn’t bluffing in the Q&A.

    I hope he goes strength vs strength and we dominate the LOS. When that happens, watch the Steelers try that fluky spread offense.

    Man coverage and 4 rushers and the only ace in the hole is Roethilsberger getting out of the pocket. Contain him and it’s checkmate.

  248. bcz24 Says:

    The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Ed Bouchette refers to the ailment as “potentially bothersome.” Coach Mike Tomlin said the team is “probably going to slow (Polamalu) down here in the early portions of the week… with an eye toward practicing in the latter part of the week.” Tomlin expects Polamalu to play this weekend, which is certainly encouraging, but keep a close eye on this one, as it’s certainly an injury that could get worse.

  249. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Matchup I’m most excited about is our Dline vs. their Oline.

    Jonathan Scott put on one of the worst performances I have ever seen at left tackle last Sunday night. Shaughnessy will eat him alive. And if they bring the guard over to help Scott, that leaves Seymour one-on-one with Maurkice Pouncey. Pouncey is damn good, especially for a rookie, but I don’t know if he can handle Seymour without help, given the level Big Sey is playing at right now.

    Also worth noting that, while Flozell Adams is still a good run blocker and has done a pretty god job at RT this year, he’s still old and slow. Houston ran a 4.85 40 at the combine at 300 pounds. There’s a good chance Lamarr will be able to blow right by Adams.

  250. Jimbo Says:

    The Steelers OC for some reason goes from Mendenhall to Moore every third series and the spread offense. It’s like clockwork. Expect that.

  251. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Also, they could also keep Heath Miller in to help Scott out. That would allow them to double up Seymour with Kemoeatu and Pouncey, but still leaves Kelly and Houston singled up and deprives them of an excellent receiver target in Miller.

  252. Jimbo Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:00 am
    Matchup I’m most excited about is our Dline vs. their Oline.

    Jonathan Scott put on one of the worst performances I have ever seen at left tackle last Sunday night. Shaughnessy will eat him alive. And if they bring the guard over to help Scott, that leaves Seymour one-on-one with Maurkice Pouncey. Pouncey is damn good, especially for a rookie, but I don’t know if he can handle Seymour without help, given the level Big Sey is playing at right now.

    Also worth noting that, while Flozell Adams is still a good run blocker and has done a pretty god job at RT this year, he’s still old and slow. Houston ran a 4.85 40 at the combine at 300 pounds. There’s a good chance Lamarr will be able to blow right by Adams.

    ************

    Good points all, but also worth noting is that the KC defensive line we just beat was better than this group.

  253. Jimbo Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:01 am
    Also, they could also keep Heath Miller in to help Scott out. That would allow them to double up Seymour with Kemoeatu and Pouncey, but still leaves Kelly and Houston singled up and deprives them of an excellent receiver target in Miller.

    *********

    I thought Kemoeatu was out? Hurting?

  254. bcz24 Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:01 am
    Also, they could also keep Heath Miller in to help Scott out. That would allow them to double up Seymour with Kemoeatu and Pouncey, but still leaves Kelly and Houston singled up and deprives them of an excellent receiver target in Miller.
    ************
    If they do that Wimbley is going to eat BigBen for lunch!

  255. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The issue with Chaz isn’t the salary it is the roster spot.

    Not sure why he still hasn’t been IR’d yet. He clearly isn’t going to play anytime soon.

  256. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Jimbo, I was kidding. I know what is going on and am a Grads supporter as he is marrying my daughters kindergarden teachers neice. But, until he screws up, the souper does deserve to start.

  257. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I thought Kemoeatu was out? Hurting?

    ++++++++++++++

    Read something today in the local media that Kemoeatu is expected to go, although still hurting some.

  258. Jimbo Says:

    Speaking of eating Big Ben for lunch, when we do have a shot, we need to take it. Even if it means a late hit flag. We need to make him feel the pressure, sense the footsteps, get into his head.

  259. Jimbo Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:04 am
    The issue with Chaz isn’t the salary it is the roster spot.

    Not sure why he still hasn’t been IR’d yet. He clearly isn’t going to play anytime soon.

    ******

    Agree!

  260. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    If they do that Wimbley is going to eat BigBen for lunch!

    ++++++++++++++

    Totally forgot about Wimbley! I am ashamed.

    Really thinking we have too many pass rushers for them to deal with unless they keep in both Miller and Mendhenhall to block on every pass attempt, which will hurt them a lot.

  261. Jimbo Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:05 am
    Jimbo, I was kidding. I know what is going on and am a Grads supporter as he is marrying my daughters kindergarden teachers neice. But, until he screws up, the souper does deserve to start.

    *****

    Ok, I see.

    But the media hores outside of Oakland think the QB spot is still up in the air. It baffles me.

  262. Jimbo Says:

    More Raider-hate:

    Pittsburgh

    Here’s what you need to be aware of – Mike Wallace will be covered by Nnamdi Asomugha this week, so be wary starting him and don’t expect big numbers like in weeks past.

    Hines Ward and Heath Miller could be the big winners in the passing game. Emmanuel Sanders was a nice fill-in for Hines Ward, but Ward is expected to play this week, which will limit his snaps.

    One tidbit that favors Ben Roethlisberger – the Raiders have allowed opposing QBs to have 2 TDs per game in 8 on the 9 games this year.

  263. bcz24 Says:

    But the media hores outside of Oakland think the QB spot is still up in the air. It baffles me.
    *********
    They get paid to generate news stories…

  264. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

  265. Jimbo Says:

    What they are saying:

    Pittsburgh’s rush D is the best unit in the NFL, averaging 63.2 yards allowed per game, with just four rushing TDs given up to date.

    They showed a little more vulnerability than usual last week, allowing 24/103/1 to the Patriots on the ground, but don’t kid yourself – Pittsburgh’s D remains a force to be reckoned with this year.

    This is a tough matchup for McFadden and Bush.

  266. Jimbo Says:

    Weather: Heinz Field expects a high of 51 F on Sunday, with a low of 40 F later in the day – there is only a 20% chance for precipitation forecast. That’s about as good as it gets in Pittsburgh, PA at this time of year – weather conditions shouldn’t play a huge role in this contest.

  267. bcz24 Says:

    If Nnamdi goes it would definitely be wise for him to shadow Wallace. If you eliminate the deep threat you dont have guys backing off the line of scrimmage. Routt can cover Ward, no question, and our safety play has been our #1 improvement over the last few weeks, so Miller doesnt worry me. Mendenhall is a good running back, but he isnt even close to the breakaway threat Charles is, and we effectively contained him. Our DLine is the best in the business today, and I dont think the steelers expect that.

  268. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Here’s what you need to be aware of – Mike Wallace will be covered by Nnamdi Asomugha this week, so be wary starting him and don’t expect big numbers like in weeks past.

    +++++++++++++++

    I love how people assume this. I mean, I hope it’s the case, but until I see otherwise during the game, I’m just going to figure Nnamdi is going to stick to his assigned half of the field, no matter who lines up there. He has been shadowing more this year (did a hell of a job limiting Fitzgerald), but I still just assume he’ll be patrolling his assigned turf.

    Also, with his ankle injury, I don’t know if it’d be a wise thing to put him on a speedster like Wallace anyway. Let Routt run with him.

  269. neilb Says:

    Been reading that Polamalu (sp?)is doubtful.Hmmmm,mind games me thinks.I’ll believe it when it happens.

  270. Jimbo Says:

    Oakland Raiders Passing Offense at Pittsburgh Steelers Passing Defense (Good Matchup)

    Over the past three games, all victories for Oakland, Jason Campbell has re-established his hold on the starting job at QB – he’s thrown 46/80 for 743 yards, five TDs and one interception during that time frame. Four players have seen double-digit targets from Campbell during that three week span – Jacoby Ford (15 for 10/185/0), Darrius Heyward-Bey (14 for 5/105/1), Marcel Reece (10 for 6/117/1) and Johnnie Lee Higgins (10 for 3/26/0). Zach Miller didn’t play in week nine or he’d probably be on the above list too – he saw eight targets for 4/73/1 receiving during weeks seven and eight.

    Coming off the bye week, the Raiders hope to have their whole squad back on the field, though Chaz Schilens will not practice on Wednesday as his bum knee continues to be an issue – Miller (foot) is expected to practice, as is Louis Murphy (bruised lung).

    Pittsburgh’s pass D was bombed for 30/43 yielding 350 net yards, three TDs and zero interceptions by the Patriots last week. Carson Palmer managed 22/36 for 218 net yards, two TDs and one interception vs. Pittsburgh two weeks ago – the Steelers’ pass D has been playing fairly poorly during November, folks. So far this year, the team is ranked 26th in the NFL averaging 252.2 net yards allowed per game, with 11 passing TDs given up vs. 11 interceptions and 24 sacks generated. Oakland is 29th in the NFL with 26 sacks allowed to date, which is a weakness in the pass blocking department that Pittsburgh will seek to exploit on Sunday.

    Heinz Field is a tough place to play, and the Raiders have OL worries that may lead to problems for Campbell this week. On balance, we give the Raiders’ unit a slight edge in this matchup, but they need to protect Campbell well or things can go south in a hurry.

  271. bcz24 Says:

    Pittsburg hasnt faced the trifecta of the calibur that we are bringing. McFadden, Bush, Reece are not to be taken lightly. If Polamalu does miss the game, I expect us to embarass their Run D

  272. neilb Says:

    How many drops did Wallace have on Sunday night? If Ward plays put Nnamdi on him and Routt on Wallace.

  273. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    On balance, we give the Raiders’ unit a slight edge in this matchup, but they need to protect Campbell well or things can go south in a hurry.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    I agree with that.

  274. Jimbo Says:

    Pittsburgh Steelers Passing Offense vs Oakland Raiders Passing Defense (Neutral Matchup)

    Ben Roethlisberger did everything he could to rally the Steelers vs. New England, and ended up the day with a stellar 30/49 for 387 yards, three TDs and one interception (but it just wasn’t enough to catch the Patriots, who won 39-26. Hines Ward was knocked out of the game with a concussion and didn’t return to action, leaving Mike Wallace (8/136/2 receiving last week), Mewelde Moore (5/79/0), Antwaan Randle-El (5/66/0) and Heath Miller (5/60/0) to try and pick up the pieces. Ward will have to pass the NFL-mandated neurological baseline tests before returning to football activities this week – keep an eye on his practice status in Footballguys.com’s players in the news later this week to see how soon he can get back in the action. Ward did pass the tests on Wednesday, but could be subject to a setback in practices – fantasy owners invested in the Steelers’ attack should continue to monitor Ward’s status this week.

    The Raiders’ pass D is a mixed bag this year – they are second in the NFL with an average of 184.8 net passing yards allowed per game, and the team has generated 27 sacks this year (third in the NFL) – and Pittsburgh is tied for 22nd in the NFL with 21 sacks allowed to date. However, they have allowed 16 passing TDs so far, and have only five interceptions to their credit (tied for 28th in the NFL). Matt Cassel threw 20/35 for 200 yards, two TDs and one interception vs. Oakland in week nine; Matt Hasselbeck could only manage 13/32 for 117 yards, zero TDs and one interception back in week eight (at Oakland).

    Roethlisberger against the so-so Raiders he isn’t likely to blow up for over 300 yards passing again – on balance, this looks like a fairly even matchup to us.

  275. Jimbo Says:

    The comments from Hines Ward after his concussion last week, who’s already proven when he implied Ben Roethlisberger was weak for not returning after getting his bell rung that he doesn’t get it with regard to concussions, were again concerning. Ward again argued that he should’ve been allowed to make his own decision to return to the game after clearly being concussed, going so far as to say he just tripped on the grass walking off the field and was fine. The training staff didn’t allow themselves to be bullied after initially leaving themselves some bogus wiggle room by calling his injury a “neck” injury and correctly held him out of the game against Ward’s “better” – read “impaired” – judgment. Thankfully, Ward has already passed his concussion test and looks likely to play this week, but it’s comments like his that will continue to make the fight to take head injuries as seriously as they should be an uphill battle.

  276. bcz24 Says:

    neilb Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:17 am
    How many drops did Wallace have on Sunday night? If Ward plays put Nnamdi on him and Routt on Wallace.
    *********
    8 Catches 136yard and 2 TDs… we dont want to ignore him for Ward.

  277. neilb Says:

    A lot of Ben’s passing yardage was in junk time and didn’t mean jack.Don’t get fooled by the stats,against the Pats he was poor when it mattered.

  278. neilb Says:

    See my #277 Bcz24.Without Ward the Steelers were poor.If we take him out of the game by putting Nnamdi on him it would be a big plus for us.

  279. bcz24 Says:

    But if he gets hot early he could torch us and take the momentum away. We cant let that happen. Ward has struggled in recent weeks. Routt can cover him.

  280. neilb Says:

    ……….. if Ward took a big hit and was knocked out the game again ……

  281. bcz24 Says:

    Ward is a tough dude. NFL regulations kept him out last week. I certainly wouldnt mind him missing another game.

  282. bcz24 Says:

    Our Defensive ends have a huge role this week. Contain Ben in the pocket. His rating drops dramatically.

  283. Jimbo Says:

    Steeler Injury Report:

    *** DT Steve McLendon (PIT) did not practice on Wednesday.

    DE Nicholas Eason (PIT) did not practice on Wednesday. Wednesday Update

    *** DE Brett Keisel (PIT) partially participated in Wednesday’s practice. *** Wednesday Update

    *** DE Aaron Smith (PIT) did not practice on Wednesday. ILB Lawrence Timmons (PIT) partially participated in Wednesday’s practice

    *** CB Crezdon Butler (PIT) partially participated in Wednesday’s practice

    *** S Troy Polamalu (PIT) did not practice on Wednesday. S Will Allen (PIT) did not practice on Wednesday

    *** WR Hines Ward (PIT) practiced fully on Wednesday. Ward has passed his concussion tests and should be able in Week 11 if he does not suffer any setbacks, reports Aaron Wilson, of NationalFootballPost.com. WR Hines Ward (PIT) Ward’s streak of at least one catch in 186 consecutive regular-season games ended in Week 10

    *** DE Brett Keisel (PIT) will miss the team’s Week 11 game, according to NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora.

  284. neilb Says:

    Amen to that Bcz24.

  285. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ben is the best sandlot football player I ever seen.

    Vick is great out of the pocket, but he is just pure athlete and a great runner.

    Ben will run one way, pump fake, break the tackle of a 280 lb end, run all the way to other side of the field, and throw it back across the field for 35 yards.

    When he drifts out of the pocket, he is not looking to run or check down. He wants to go down the field.

  286. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 7:35 am
    Ben is the best sandlot football player I ever seen.

    Vick is great out of the pocket, but he is just pure athlete and a great runner.

    Ben will run one way, pump fake, break the tackle of a 280 lb end, run all the way to other side of the field, and throw it back across the field for 35 yards.

    …..And then flash his wanker at the crowd and sign a contract extension and film a commercial!

  287. neilb Says:

    You missed out that he’s hard to take down JFB.The D needs to make sure they wrap him up when they tackle him.

  288. Jimbo Says:

    Pittsburgh Steelers

    Lawrence Timmons is likely to be limited during practice this week with his hip pointer, but is expected play come Sunday. That said, don’t be surprised if he slowed a little by this injury. Hip pointers can be exceptionally painful and tend to remain tender for a long time.

  289. neilb Says:

    That time again.

    Have a great Thursday everyone.

  290. Jimbo Says:

    NOTES
    RAIDERS: Club aims to win 4 consecutive games for 1st time since 11/11/02-12/8/02 (5 straight wins)…Oakland is averaging 458.0 yards per game in past 3 (1,374 total; 508 vs. Den.; 545 vs. Sea.; 321 vs. KC)…In past 3, QB JASON CAMPBELL has completed 46 of 80 passes (57.5 pct.) for 743 yards w/ 5 TDs vs. 1 INT & 104.3 passer rating…RB DARREN MC FADDEN leads NFL w/ 108.1 rush yards per game in ‘10 (757 total). McFadden (4) needs rush TD to surpass career-high of 4 in ‘08…WR LOUIS MURPHY had career-best in rec. yards (128) & TDs (2) in last game vs. Pit…Rookie WR-KR JACOBY FORD (4th round, No. 108) had career-highs in receptions (6), receiving yards (148) & KR yards (158), incl. 94-yard KR-TD in last game. Ford joined former Steelers WR GARY BALLMAN (161 receiving yards, 159 kick return yards; at Washington on 11/17/63) as only players in NFL history to have at least 140 receiving yards and 150 kick return yards in game…TE ZACH MILLER ranks 3rd among AFC TEs w/ 461 receiving yards…DT TOMMY KELLY aims for 5th straight game with at least half sack…STEELERS: Have 15-6 (.714) record under head coach MIKE TOMLIN at Heinz Field vs. AFC opponents…Since 1st start in Week 6, QB BEN ROETHLISBERGER leads NFL w/ 1,304 passing yards during span. Has 35-11 (.761) record at home w/ 67 TDs vs. 42 INTs & 92.5 passer rating. Had season-high 387 passing yards last week, his 2nd 300-yard passing game of season. Had 123.3 passer rating in last game vs. Oak…RB RASHARD MENDENHALL (7) needs 1 rush TD to surpass career high of 7 in ‘09. Had 103 rush yards on 20 att. (5.2 avg.) w/ rush TD in only meeting vs. Oak…In past 3 vs. Raiders, WR HINES WARD is averaging 85.7 receiving yards per game (257 total). WR MIKE WALLACE had career-highs in catches (8), receiving yards (136) & TDs (2) last week. Aims for 3rd consecutive game w/ 100+ rec. yards (110, 136). Has career-best 7 TD rec. & seeks 3rd straight game w/ TD. Rookie WR EMMANUEL SANDERS (3rd round, No. 82) had 1st NFL TD catch last week…Defense allows league-low 63.2 rush yards per game this year…LB LA MARR WOODLEY had 2 sacks in last game vs. Oak.

  291. Just Fire Baby Says:

    NeilB,

    Once he is out of the pocket, you are almost not going to take him. Just try to corral him and throw the ball before he wants to.

    The dude is bigger than LB’s, and can throw the ball with defenders hanging off of him.

    IMO, big Ben is a top 5 QB in this league

  292. M Lonetree Says:

    expect to see zealous Zebra hankies dropped at least twice on Raider DBs on long downfield heaves by Roethlis (on one of them replays will show Seymour being blatantly held right in front of the Umpire but that will draw no flag).
    those 40 yard penalties are inevitable. then the D needs to man up and limit the Pitts to Suisham FG tries on a sloppy field.

  293. mistic1 Says:

    Vick is killing teams passing from the pocket. He is just as good in the pocket today as breeze, brady or manning. His running is the last option after making his 3-4 progression reads. His mobility is unmatched. He is now the ultimate weapon.

    Now in reids space age offense we see who i thought he always would be. Accuracy issues, were largely hype. In atl he was a 1 read & run qb. With crumpler and finneran as his best passing options, now he has real weapons.

    Vick and that offense is the new wave of nfl qb, the future is now. You can either run with it or get ran over.

  294. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The only reason Vick is able to look at 3 or 4 progressions is because of his scrambling ability. Teams aren’t going to blitz and lose containment, because he will just jog out of the pocket and pick up 15 yards.

    Even with his success so far, if the Eagles lose this weekend, they will be on the outside looking in for a playoff spot.

  295. mistic1 Says:

    Running from a 3-4 wide set will be good, i hope we see the pistole zone read, with some ghost reverse and pitch options. I think we will also need to throw the ball on early downs as well. Throwing on first down will take pressure off the run game, and put the qb and receivers in rythm early.

  296. bcz24 Says:

    I agree with you concerning Vicks accuracy and limited weapons in Atlanta, but he is not the future of the NFL. There just arent that many guys who can do what he does. He is a phenom. A freak. Traditional pocket passers will still rule the day.

  297. Just Fire Baby Says:

    When the Super Bowl QB’s are Matt Ryan and Tom Brady, we might want to hold this wave of the future talk.

    Every year, it is two, middle-aged slow QB’s in the Super Bowl, with the exception of Big Ben.

  298. Jimbo Says:

    Having Big John Henderson inside is a lot of beef that the Steelers will have to gameplan for. Espect lots of spread and maybe some hurryup to keep the Raiders from rotating. Key will be collapsing the pocket inward, not allowing an escape route. Ben is killer when he steps out of the containment.

  299. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Jimbo,

    I expect a TON of hurry-up from the Steelers. Ben is good at running it and it’ll play to their advantage. I’d really look to see it when Henderson and/or Bryant is on the field. The more they can keep Seymour and Kelly on the sidelines, the better for them.

  300. mistic1 Says:

    JFB,

    im not sure what you mean. His scrambling is a weapon with out a doubt. I agree teams shouldnt be in a hurry to rush him, so you see teams play coverage dropping 7 – 8 guys. The difference is now vick can pick you apart if you play him that way, like the rest of the great pocket passers in the league. He is right now the best qb in the nfl, he reads defense, throws the ball with deadly accuracy, and when the play breaks down he scrambles and looks to throw first. Last but not least he is still the fastest guy on the field, and a threat to score from any where.

  301. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I foresee some DB blindside blitzes in the works for Roethlisbunghole…

  302. r8eray Says:

    Is Big John playing this Sunday?

  303. Jimbo Says:

    SNBPA,

    I hope that we can run some delay tactics like piling on tackles and deliberately finshing off thier guys so they are slow to get up. It will make the rotations easier to handle.

  304. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    In no way is Vick EVER the fastest guy on the field…

  305. mistic1 Says:

    Vick is just as good in the pocket as anybody in the nfl, only with a stronger arm. Plus he can do things the other guys could never dream of. Please stop with the pocket passer propaganda, it doesnt apply in this case.

  306. Jimbo Says:

    Are we playing Mike Vick this Sunday?

  307. Jimbo Says:

    I’ll worry about Mike Vick when we face him in Dallas….till then, unless he’s the captain of your fantasy squad, who cares?

  308. Just Fire Baby Says:

    No doubt, Michael Vick has been the best QB the last four weeks, but talk to me when he actually wins a playoff game as a pocket QB.

    Like I said, they lose this weekend, and they will be competing with about 6 teams for two wildcard spots, and may be a game behind a team or two.

    He would be the MVP for October, but that isn’t worth a hill of beans. Redskins are statiscally the worst defense in the NFL, and were the second-worst heading into that game.

    Giants this weekend are the #1 ranked defense, and I am pretty sure Vick won’t look like he did on Monday, and I think they will lose the game.

  309. mistic1 Says:

    Bo did you miss the washington game? Vick was by far much faster than anyone on the foreskin defense

  310. Dakota Says:

    Michael Vick has a career passer rating of 79….he will come back to earth soon…if not, then sign him up Al!

  311. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Vick is just as good in the pocket as anybody in the nfl, only with a stronger arm. Plus he can do things the other guys could never dream of. Please stop with the pocket passer propaganda, it doesnt apply in this case.

    ************************************

    Vick has never done anything in this league as a pocket passer but win a few regular season games in October and the beginning of November.

    He wins a playoff game or two like this, I will give him his props. Until than, his last few weeks were just as fluky as Bruce Gradkowski winning AFC player of the week last year.

    The exception, not the rule

  312. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:02 am
    I foresee some DB blindside blitzes in the works for Roethlisbunghole…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Huff’s been pretty good with them this year. I expect to see him come more than few times.

  313. mistic1 Says:

    Jimbo people discuss all kind of things in here. Deal with it.

  314. bcz24 Says:

    Vick is just as good in the pocket as anybody in the nfl.
    ***********
    That is clearly a ridiculous statement. One stellar game does not make Mike Vick better than Manning or Brady. Sorry dude, but you are the same guy that defended JC’s 10.7 rating as an abberation. Mike Vicks 6 TD game is also an abberation.

  315. bcz24 Says:

    I dont think Huff could tackle big ben. He might hold him up long enough for one of our lineman to get there, but I really dont think he could bring him down alone.

  316. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:08 am
    Bo did you miss the washington game? Vick was by far much faster than anyone on the foreskin defense
    ===============================================
    Why not talk about pocket presence, intelligence in reading coverages, and superior ability to pass with touch and accuracy. You are stereotyping him. Afterall, the opposing QB had those qualities. You are quilty of what you accused me of the other day.

  317. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:21 am
    I dont think Huff could tackle big ben.
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. Huff may not but Mitchell or Tyvon could lay him out. Huff’s best shot is knocking the ball loose.

    Just don’t bring Routt on a blitz… guy would get KO’d bouncing off Ben.

  318. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Mistic, Vick is clearly a great runner, and fast, but there is no need to overhype him by claiming he is faster than every defender he plays. I bet in a straight line he wouldn’t break a 4.5 40 anymore.

  319. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    “At a rookie mini-camp last weekend, Vick ran the 40-yard dash in 4.36 seconds, the fastest time among the 19 draft picks and college free agents at the mandatory camp.”

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2001/0508/1193460.html

    From answers.com: There’s a rumor around the internet that he ran in the 4.2 range but there’s no veriable source to that claim and it isn’t stated where or when he ran that time. It is generally accepted and most of Vick’s verifiable times are in the 4.3 range.

  320. mistic1 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:10 am

    Vick is just as good in the pocket as anybody in the nfl, only with a stronger arm. Plus he can do things the other guys could never dream of. Please stop with the pocket passer propaganda, it doesnt apply in this case.

    ************************************

    Vick has never done anything in this league as a pocket passer but win a few regular season games in October and the beginning of November.

    He wins a playoff game or two like this, I will give him his props. Until than, his last few weeks were just as fluky as Bruce Gradkowski winning AFC player of the week last year.

    The exception, not the rule
    ===========================================================

    JFB

    Vick has been destroying teams from the pocket this year. Including out playing manning from the pocket earlier in the year.

    maybe you have only watched the one monday night game, but i have seen every game he played in this year, its no fluke.

  321. bcz24 Says:

    Outdueling manning… laughable. Manning is playing with practice squadders and Vick had 8+ seconds to throw the ball, and they eeked out a 2 point victory. Dont kid yourself man.

  322. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:20 am

    Vick is just as good in the pocket as anybody in the nfl.
    ***********
    That is clearly a ridiculous statement. One stellar game does not make Mike Vick better than Manning or Brady. Sorry dude, but you are the same guy that defended JC’s 10.7 rating as an abberation. Mike Vicks 6 TD game is also an abberation.
    ==========================================================

    becuase you have only watched him once this year, outside of sport center prime time, dont assume every one is like you. It is not one stellar game, he is having a great season, and he is doing it from the pocket. he can do everything in the pocket that brady manning or breeze can do. This is what has taken his game to a new level. watch a few games then submit and informed opinion.

    For the record I have never defended jc game in sf, I said it was terrible, the worst of his career. That however was an anomaly, as clearly the last few games have proven.

  323. mistic1 Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:31 am

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:08 am
    Bo did you miss the washington game? Vick was by far much faster than anyone on the foreskin defense
    ===============================================
    Why not talk about pocket presence, intelligence in reading coverages, and superior ability to pass with touch and accuracy. You are stereotyping him. Afterall, the opposing QB had those qualities. You are quilty of what you accused me of the other day.
    =========================================================

    This is why jumping into a conversation in the middle can be dicey, you may end up looking foolish.

    When i say pocket passing, I am referring to reading defense, going through progressions, making all of the throws and commanding the audibles. we already know about his running ability. How have I stereotyped any one? clearly his pocket game is off the charts, this is what now makes him the most dangerous qb in the nfl.

  324. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Vick can’t run fast enough from this one.

    It has long been rumored that Michael Vick has herpes and contracted it from a stripper while in Atlanta. He has been sued by a woman before who claims that he gave it to her.ChaCha on! Answered – 1 day ago, Nov 17 2010, 12:06am from http://www.thesmokinggun.com

  325. bcz24 Says:

    Sorry Mistic. But stop pretending you know what I do or dont do. I have watched more than just the monday nighter by Vick. Im not trying to say he isnt a great QB. He may go down as a top 10 qb of all time. Dont tell me because of half a seasons work that he is all the sudden the best in the league. You are delusional.

  326. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Outdueling manning… laughable. Manning is playing with practice squadders and Vick had 8+ seconds to throw the ball, and they eeked out a 2 point victory. Dont kid yourself man.
    ============================================================

    Did you watch that game? i did and it was all about the qb’s. manning threw a costly pick, vick brought back the eagles from behind. the qb’s dominated this game, vick out played manning. sorry but manning is no longer the best qb in the league.

  327. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    That makes Vick into one of the most dangerous QB’s in the NFL! lol

  328. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Sorry Mistic. But stop pretending you know what I do or dont do. I have watched more than just the monday nighter by Vick. Im not trying to say he isnt a great QB. He may go down as a top 10 qb of all time. Dont tell me because of half a seasons work that he is all the sudden the best in the league. You are delusional.
    ============================================================

    he is the most skilled passer, rocket arm, touch pass, deadly accurate. He reads defenses with the best in the biz. Plus his other worldly athletic ability, that cant be coached. he is as of this moment the most feared weapon, and dangerous qb in the league.

    What does any one in the nfl have over him at this moment?

    he is like steve young with the super bowl niner teams, surgically precise, only a much better arm, and clearly a better athelete.

  329. mistic1 Says:

    Steve Young , Jon gruden, and Brian Billik all agree with my take on vick

  330. bcz24 Says:

    You are entitled to your opinion Mistic. Its just that opinion. People much smarter than you or I feel differently, and until you show me a paycheck that says your job is evaluating talent, I will continue to disagree with your opinion.

  331. Dakota Says:

    Mistic,

    The issue I see with your analysis of QBs, such as Campbell and Vick, is that you are taking a small slice of their careers and making declarations about them based on that small sample.

    Michael Vick is playing out of his mind right now, but why not wait and see if he can sustain it?

  332. mistic1 Says:

    Is cam newton going to lose his college eligibility because of his dad? If he does will he declare early? i hope not, but if it does happen, i would love the silver and black to take him. he would fall to the middle or late rounds, where we could have a shot. he doesnt have to play right away he spend a year or two behind Campbell, learning man hood maturity and professionalism. With campbell and hu jack as matures he would have a much better support system than our last drafted qb’s have had, marinovich and russell. Plus cam is a better player, and passer than those guys were.

  333. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    You are entitled to your opinion Mistic. Its just that opinion. People much smarter than you or I feel differently, and until you show me a paycheck that says your job is evaluating talent, I will continue to disagree with your opinion.
    ======================================================

    Steve Young , Jon gruden, and Brian Billik all agree with my take on vick

  334. mistic1 Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Mistic,

    The issue I see with your analysis of QBs, such as Campbell and Vick, is that you are taking a small slice of their careers and making declarations about them based on that small sample.

    Michael Vick is playing out of his mind right now, but why not wait and see if he can sustain it?
    ============================================================

    This is completely false. I base it on the big picture, their entire career going back to college. I have watched both guys since college and have seen what they are capable of. Now that they are in better situations in their pro career ( and vick has grown up) we are seeing what they are truly capable of, and it matches exactly what i though it would be. Fantastic qb’s.

    The same goes for my boys troy smith and josh freeman. if you live in the bay his is must see tv, get a glimpse of the future of the nfl.

  335. Dakota Says:

    Yeah, I am sure Cam Newton had no idea any of this was going on! lmfao

  336. Dakota Says:

    Oh, so Vick’s career passer rating of 79 and completion% in the low 50s helped you draw these conclusions?

    lol too funny

  337. The Big Banana Says:

    Mike Vick is suddenly better than anyone else in the league? Haha. Can’t say I’m surprised though. On Monday, Campbell and Troy Smith were the best things since Plunkett and Montana. lol

  338. mistic1 Says:

    Campbell will need to throw on first down in pitt. this will minimize the second and long 3rd and long plays when pitt can really cause problems. it also will allow us to run from spread formations in 2nd or 3rd and short, so the defense will be off balance not knowing if we are running or passing.

    I hope we do run from the spread especially if we end up in 2nd or 3rd and 5-6. Pitt will blitz, and if dmac can get past the first wave he will pop a big one.

  339. LA to TheBay Says:

    Again, Mistic –

    I’m sure 99.99% of Raider Nation (AIG) is happy with results. We like Ws. We like that Jason Campbell is getting them. We root for him. However to say that Jason Campbell is a ‘fantastic’ QB is a real stretch.

  340. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mistic1,

    I have the NFL package and get every game.

    I have seen plenty of Vick this season. I am just waiting to annoint him anything other than a great October QB until he wins a playoff game like this(if they even make it this season).

  341. The Big Banana Says:

    Dakota – How do you think DMAC will fare against Pitt this weekend? Continue his dominance?

  342. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Florio’s take: In each of the last two years that the Steelers defended a Super Bowl championship, they played the Raiders. And the Raiders won. This year, the Raiders are much improved, and the Steelers are sliding again due to another rash of injuries. It’s hard to imagine the Steelers losing two in a row at home. Then again, it was impossible to imagine the Steelers losing five in a row last season.

    Florio’s pick: Raiders 20, Steelers 17.

  343. mistic1 Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Oh, so Vick’s career passer rating of 79 and completion% in the low 50s helped you draw these conclusions?

    lol too funny
    ============================================================

    Vick in atlanta is not the vick you are seeing today. He has always had the talent, he used it as a crutch. now he puts in the extra time and has truly learned the mental aspect of the game, as opposed to just being the best athlete on the field.

    Also he has a much better offense around him in philly. he doesnt need to run for 100 yards a game to win like he did in philly.

    Dont be fooled by the stats from atlanta.

  344. Dakota Says:

    Man I hope Vick keeps this going…pretty fun to watch. But no matter how fast he runs, he will never out run his Ron Mexico disease or his past lol.

  345. LA to TheBay Says:

    “[Cam]doesnt have to play right away he spend a year or two behind Campbell, learning man hood maturity and professionalism.”

    If your boy Campbell is the picture of manliness, maturity, and professionalism, why would you want Cam Newton?

    You’ve got your franchise guy right here.

  346. bcz24 Says:

    Seems you have a bit of a racial bias Mistic? Why is Tebow not in your “future of the NFL” list? Why are there no white qb’s at all in that list?

  347. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Cam Newton has never attempted a collegiate pass when taking a snap under center.

    Tim Tebow issues all over again

  348. Dakota Says:

    341.The Big Banana Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:19 am
    Dakota – How do you think DMAC will fare against Pitt this weekend? Continue his dominance?

    ++++++

    135 total yards….he will take us to the goal line 3 times….and Cable will put in Bush for two TDs….we kick one FG…McFadden gets none again thanks to Cable.

    We lose 35-20.

  349. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Again, Mistic –

    I’m sure 99.99% of Raider Nation (AIG) is happy with results. We like Ws. We like that Jason Campbell is getting them. We root for him. However to say that Jason Campbell is a ‘fantastic’ QB is a real stretch.
    ==========================================================

    Your opinion is noted, we disagree. the wins and they way we have won, cause me to use the word fantastic. But you could easily use the words very good.

  350. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jason Campbell’s game against the Chiefs was almost exactly like Bruce’s win against Cincy last year.

    Good team, at home, comeback victory, literally the same stats and QB rating.

  351. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:22 am
    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Again, Mistic –

    I’m sure 99.99% of Raider Nation (AIG) is happy with results. We like Ws. We like that Jason Campbell is getting them. We root for him. However to say that Jason Campbell is a ‘fantastic’ QB is a real stretch.
    ==========================================================

    Your opinion is noted, we disagree. the wins and they way we have won, cause me to use the word fantastic. But you could easily use the words very good.
    ===========================
    The word serviceable or mediocre could also be used as long as he wins.

  352. mistic1 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Mistic1,

    I have the NFL package and get every game.

    I have seen plenty of Vick this season. I am just waiting to annoint him anything other than a great October QB until he wins a playoff game like this(if they even make it this season).
    ===========================================================

    Im not sure i would buy the eagles stock yet. The offense is nearly unstoppable, i question the defense. If they lose in the playoffs or fail to qualify you cant lay the blame at the feet of vick. he is light out this year.

    But have you forgotten vick has won in the playoffs?

  353. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

    Key to winning the game………..

    “JUST GOT IT LOOSE!”
    Nuff said.

  354. The Big Banana Says:

    Dakota – Is Cable or Jackson making the decision to insert Bush on the goal line? Like you, I’d like to see DMAC get the prize. Especially if he’s the one taking us down there.

  355. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not as a pocket passer.

    2-2 career in the playoffs.

  356. LA to TheBay Says:

    Campbell is serviceable. If he can be a good game-manager, we can win games. He is not the Second Coming.

    Your assessment after the SD game was very strange and quite laughable. That it was Dan Fouts vs. Jim Plunkett. Rivers being Fouts….

  357. DMAC Says:

    I don’t give a damn who’s behind Satele’s sweaty azz, as long as we some fk’n wins.

  358. Dakota Says:

    354.The Big Banana Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:27 am
    Dakota – Is Cable or Jackson making the decision to insert Bush on the goal line? Like you, I’d like to see DMAC get the prize. Especially if he’s the one taking us down there.

    +++++++++

    hard to say, I blame Cable just because I can….but whichever one is responsible deserves a kick in the nutzos!

  359. DMAC Says:

    Just cut it loose!
    LMAO

  360. mistic1 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Jason Campbell’s game against the Chiefs was almost exactly like Bruce’s win against Cincy last year.

    Good team, at home, comeback victory, literally the same stats and QB rating.
    ===========================================================

    You win and lose as a team. Everbody talks about his first half, but there were several drops,penalties, and blown blocking assignments. We cant say “if the receivers had caught the ball”, because they didnt, it did however affect jc’s stats.

    That is beside the point, you must win ugly at times, its commonly referred to gutting it out.

    Grads is all guts. That is important. the kc game if you are being fair showed jc has guts and can grind out the win just like bruce does, and he is far more talented.

  361. The Big Banana Says:

    Morning DMAC.

    What do you fellas think of the names for our Defense?

    From last night:

    The Black Curtain
    Marshall Law

  362. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Campbell is serviceable. If he can be a good game-manager, we can win games. He is not the Second Coming.

    Your assessment after the SD game was very strange and quite laughable. That it was Dan Fouts vs. Jim Plunkett. Rivers being Fouts….
    ===========================================================

    L.A,

    Im starting to think you are just another hater.

    I didnt compare campbell and rivers to plunkett and fouts.

    I compared the shootout style, late game drama, to the way it was back in the day with oakland vs. san diego, with fouts vs. plunkett.

    You obviously were unable to comprehend the point.

  363. DMAC Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Morning DMAC.

    What do you fellas think of the names for our Defense?

    From last night:

    The Black Curtain
    Marshall Law
    ============
    Wassup BigB
    I like Marshall Law
    What about….
    Black Out

  364. The Big Banana Says:

    You win and lose as a team.

    =====================================================

    I’m sure you only believe this statement to be true when Campbell loses as a QB or when Grads wins as a QB. Translation: Campbell is faultless and Grads…well, we win despite him, right?

  365. olinesux Says:

    great to see this blog without moronraider in here…

  366. LA to TheBay Says:

    But have you forgotten vick has won in the playoffs?

    ————–

    Vick won a very impressive game at Lambeau, which no one had ever done before. I thought he was going to change things that day.

    Then the next week, they got whipped by Philly and Vick was completely ineffective.

    Its amazing to watch Vick currently just because he was out of football for two years (in prison, no less) and a backup QB last year, but its too early to annoint him based on regular season play.

  367. LA to TheBay Says:

    I’m sure you only believe this statement to be true when Campbell loses as a QB or when Grads wins as a QB. Translation: Campbell is faultless and Grads…well, we win despite him, right?

    —————–

    I don’t think that’s true, cause Mistic was in here after the SF game talking about how awful Campbell was but said it was because of timing and familiarity of the offense and I think still managed to say that Grad has worse games in the past.

  368. LA to TheBay Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:33 am
    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Campbell is serviceable. If he can be a good game-manager, we can win games. He is not the Second Coming.

    Your assessment after the SD game was very strange and quite laughable. That it was Dan Fouts vs. Jim Plunkett. Rivers being Fouts….
    ===========================================================

    L.A,

    Im starting to think you are just another hater.

    I didnt compare campbell and rivers to plunkett and fouts.

    I compared the shootout style, late game drama, to the way it was back in the day with oakland vs. san diego, with fouts vs. plunkett.

    You obviously were unable to comprehend the point.

    ————————-

    Ok, you said it was deep down the field Al Davis vertical football, but I only saw that from one team.

  369. The Big Banana Says:

    Black Out

    Nice!
    I like that, DMAC.

    Mondays Newspaper: The greater Pittsburgh area was under a Black Out Sunday afternoon as the Raiders came to town and delivered an old school beat down.

  370. mistic1 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Cam Newton has never attempted a collegiate pass when taking a snap under center.

    Tim Tebow issues all over again
    ============================================================

    JFB,

    cam newton and tebow are nothing alike at all. tebow is not a very good passer. Newton is an nfl ready passer, not just by my own eye ball test, but according to many of the so-called experts he is the best passing prospect on a par with stratford when he left georgia.

    By the way taking a snap from center is not that big of a deal. he can learn that in a year or so in a solid offense like we have, and with good coaching.

    By the way if you havent noticed there are qb’s in this league that operate out of the shotgun most of the time on passing downs, brady manning and breeze come to mind.

  371. bcz24 Says:

    Peter King – Raiders 23 Steelers 21

    “The more I think this can’t happen, and that the Steelers have to win a game they need badly in the wake of the New England debacle, the more I think: Who’s going to block Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly? I can’t come up with an answer — at least not an answer for 60 Pittsburgh offensive plays.”

  372. DMAC Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Black Out

    Nice!
    I like that, DMAC.

    Mondays Newspaper: The greater Pittsburgh area was under a Black Out Sunday afternoon as the Raiders came to town and delivered an old school beat down.
    =======
    Nice!

  373. aig-raiders Says:

    Not sure if you non-local guys know about this site but it’s pretty good. Eric Davis and Bill Romo dissect the Raiders. Apparently Bruce vs JC exists everywhere. You listen to them and you can clearly tell who is in favor of who. It was hilarious the way they broke down DMAC laying the wood on the Chiefs safety. Enjoy.

    http://www.csncalifornia.com/pages/raiders

  374. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:33 am
    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Campbell is serviceable. If he can be a good game-manager, we can win games. He is not the Second Coming.

    Your assessment after the SD game was very strange and quite laughable. That it was Dan Fouts vs. Jim Plunkett. Rivers being Fouts….
    ===========================================================

    L.A,

    Im starting to think you are just another hater.

    I didnt compare campbell and rivers to plunkett and fouts.

    I compared the shootout style, late game drama, to the way it was back in the day with oakland vs. san diego, with fouts vs. plunkett.

    You obviously were unable to comprehend the point.

    ————————-

    Ok, you said it was deep down the field Al Davis vertical football, but I only saw that from one team.
    ========================================================

    What is your point?

  375. DMAC Says:

    Thanx for the great effort and hard work Rajai Davis. You will be missed. Good luck in Toronto.

  376. mistic1 Says:

    # The Big Banana Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    You win and lose as a team.

    =====================================================

    I’m sure you only believe this statement to be true when Campbell loses as a QB or when Grads wins as a QB. Translation: Campbell is faultless and Grads…well, we win despite him, right?
    ==========================================================

    Dont try to speak for me, you are not qualified.

  377. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Like McClain needs the distraction before a big game. Being sued.
    From Bleacher Report: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b75V4

  378. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Peter King is on the Raiders bandwagon?

    We’re boned.

  379. DMAC Says:

    Hines Ward (concussion) was a full participant in Steelers practice Wednesday.
    “I’m good,” he said. “I took the concussion test, passed it. … I feel fine. I don’t have the symptoms they think I should have.” One pace for just 54 catches and 667 yards this season, Ward ranks a disappointing 46th among fantasy receivers through nine games. He’ll start against Oakland, but is only a WR3 option. The catch and yardage totals would be lows for Ward since 2000. Nov. 17 – 5:57 pm et
    Source: steelers.com
    ==========
    Great news. Now make him pay, for coming back this week, MM.

  380. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:42 am
    Like McClain needs the distraction before a big game. Being sued.
    From Bleacher Report: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b75V4

    ++++++++++++++++++

    2 years ago and the guy is just filing a suit now? I call B.S.

  381. DMAC Says:

    # SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Peter King is on the Raiders bandwagon?

    We’re boned.
    ==========
    We need more haters. Keeps us motivated, and playing tough.

  382. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    If the student used the N word, he deserved a whooping but not with a car.

  383. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Seems you have a bit of a racial bias Mistic? Why is Tebow not in your “future of the NFL” list? Why are there no white qb’s at all in that list?
    =============================================================

    Is this a joke?

    You say race is an issue for me, while you look for the “white guy” on the list.

    Tebow is not the future of the nfl, because of his poor passing ability. You must be able to read and throw from the pocket in this game, tebow cant do it. freeman and t smith are light years ahead of him as a passer.

    Tebow is a better runner than t smith, but that is it..

  384. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Then again, McClain didn’t have millions of dollars in his bank account two years ago.

  385. r8rwill Says:

    mornin’ nation,
    oh boy, the same argument, different players…we actually had a day or two without camp/grads!!!!

  386. DMAC Says:

    # r8rwill Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    mornin’ nation,
    oh boy, the same argument, different players…we actually had a day or two without camp/grads!!!!
    =========
    Yeah, I thought that bullschit was over w/.

  387. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    “[Cam]doesnt have to play right away he spend a year or two behind Campbell, learning man hood maturity and professionalism.”

    If your boy Campbell is the picture of manliness, maturity, and professionalism, why would you want Cam Newton?

    You’ve got your franchise guy right here.
    ===========================================================

    Cam is a unique talent unlike anyone else in the draft.

    If he declares after this year and his stock falls, why not take him. he would be a low risk luxury, with a huge upside. lets not kid ourselves, i think jc is a really good qb, that hasnt had a team or good coaching, (outside of gibbs) or a stable organization, around him, but he is not half the player cam newton is, in terms of raw talent.

    Newton will need a solid pro to show him the ropes, i think being here behind campbell and under hu jack would be good for him.

    newton is like vick only bigger

  388. The Big Banana Says:

    # r8rwill Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    mornin’ nation,
    oh boy, the same argument, different players…we actually had a day or two without camp/grads!!!!

    ===================================================

    Start a new topic there, good sir. DMAC and I were talking about names for our D. From last night, we had Marshall Law and the Black Curtain. DMAC suggested Black Out.

    Any new suggestions/favorites?

  389. inonewordraider Says:

    How big is this game? If we win were going to the playoffs

  390. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    The PFT boys offer their thoughts on the game. Florio likes our chances:

    “Raiders at Steelers

    Florio’s take: In each of the last two years that the Steelers defended a Super Bowl championship, they played the Raiders. And the Raiders won. This year, the Raiders are much improved, and the Steelers are sliding again due to another rash of injuries. It’s hard to imagine the Steelers losing two in a row at home. Then again, it was impossible to imagine the Steelers losing five in a row last season.

    Florio’s pick: Raiders 20, Steelers 17.

    Rosenthal’s take: The Raiders and their fans can happily play the no respect card here. They’re 7.5 point underdogs on a three-game winning streak. I’d take the points, but I’ll also take the Steelers to win because their defense can minimize Oakland’s greatest strength — the running game. The Raiders have won one game on the road all year, in Denver. Win this game and they’ll get plenty of respect.

    Rosenthal’s pick: Steelers 21, Raiders 17.”

  391. mistic1 Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    # r8rwill Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    mornin’ nation,
    oh boy, the same argument, different players…we actually had a day or two without camp/grads!!!!
    =========
    Yeah, I thought that bullschit was over w/.
    ==========================================================

    I dont follow this post, i havent seen any grads vs campbell stuff in here today.

  392. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    inonewordraider Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:54 am
    How big is this game? If we win were going to the playoffs

    ++++++++++++++

    No guarantees, especially with San Diego starting to come on, but I like our chances a whole lot if we win.

    3 biggest games are this Sunday and then the trips to San Diego and KC.

  393. DKnight007 Says:

    377.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:42 am
    Like McClain needs the distraction before a big game. Being sued.
    From Bleacher Report: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b75V4

    ^^^^^^^
    Who cares.

    That’s what happens when a stupid drunk racist frat boy calls a man much bigger than him the N Word.

  394. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Mornin Nation,

    So I jus hopped off the NFL website and boy those Steelers fans think they have the game won already… Supposedly Hines Ward is mad and is going to run Nmandi into the ground all game…HAHAHAHA LMAO

  395. HairyBush Says:

    Stanford Routt:
    In a zone coverage, defensive backs are often playing with their face to the quarterback. Not so in man-to-man.

    “It definitely makes your job tougher, but that’s what football is,’’ Routt said. “You’ve got to overcome disadvantages and make it happen.’’
    ———————————————-
    You have to overcome disadvantages? Is Stan taking a jab at the Raiders defensive scheme?

  396. DKnight007 Says:

    384.SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:48 am
    Then again, McClain didn’t have millions of dollars in his bank account two years ago.

    ^^^^^^^
    Exactly. Stupid drunk racist frat boy waited until McClain got paid.

  397. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Its pretty obvious that when Mistic evaluates QBs he pushes the ones with equatorial ancestry, so to speak…

    No prob there tho. I like the ones that went to my alma mater…

  398. aig-raiders Says:

    I think we win this one we are on our way to the playoff. If we lose this one, then we ahve to beat SD in our other home. the other teams on our schedule are not as strong as these 2 teams.

  399. inonewordraider Says:

    Marshall Law – I like that, definitely not black curtain sounds too much like Steel Curtain

  400. The Big Banana Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    Mornin Nation,

    So I jus hopped off the NFL website and boy those Steelers fans think they have the game won already… Supposedly Hines Ward is mad and is going to run Nmandi into the ground all game…HAHAHAHA LMAO

    ====================================================

    Good. We like it better that way. The sting of defeat is much greater this way.

  401. HairyBush Says:

    My 2 biggest concerns with Pittsburgh game:
    1)traveling to the east coast and playing early game
    2)Mike Wallace

  402. The Big Banana Says:

    # inonewordraider Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Marshall Law – I like that, definitely not black curtain sounds too much like Steel Curtain

    =======================================================

    In reading the comments, sounds like TSR came up with that one just to spite the Steeler fans, being that they bit off of us with the whole Steeler Nation thing.

  403. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I quess Penn St doesn’t have enough restrooms. lol

    Just a couple of days after running back Silas Redd publicly urinated himself into a disorderly conduct citation, we now have word that one of the freshman’s teammates has been hit with the same citation.

    According to the Allentown Morning Call, defensive end Sean Stanley was cited Friday for disorderly conduct by State College police.

    Guess that’s what a Buckeye whooping does!

  404. LA to TheBay Says:

    L.A,

    Im starting to think you are just another hater.
    ————-

    Meaning what? I’m a hater because I’m not sold on Campbell being a franchise QB?

    I guess I would be a hater if I said that Manning, or Brady, or Rivers sucked. Because it’s simply not true. “Cryme A.” Rivers may be a baby and Peyton maybe a goofy yokel and Brady may have long flow g@y locks, but they’ve had success in the NFL and consistantcy.

    The same simply cannot be said about Campbell. I’m allowed to have legitimate concerns about a decent-at-best QB leading our team. Again, I hope I continue to improve.

    Now if I’m a hater because I debate the QB with you personally, well then I think you need to ease up.

    My point with the Fouts/Plunkett comparison is that you are saying that Campbell is a legit downfield, vertical threat. Now I’m more inclined to agree after that KC game (which I was really, really impressed with JC to be honest), but historically he’s not.

    Seemed to me like you were exaggerating mightily at the time. Now if Campbell can cut it loose and get some home runs consistently, I’ll come back and say ‘dang Mistic, you were really Nostradusing this guy’ and mean it.

  405. mistic1 Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Its pretty obvious that when Mistic evaluates QBs he pushes the ones with equatorial ancestry, so to speak…

    No prob there tho. I like the ones that went to my alma mater…
    ===========================================================

    Sorry Bo, I cant let you speak for me.

    This notion is disgusting. I evaluate qb’s based purley on what they do on the field. Talent is what i look at, period.

    If your own mind is too small to accept this fact, im afraid it cant be helped.

  406. HairyBush Says:

    There is only 1 nation

  407. Carl Weathers Says:

    This blog smells of racism today, more so than usual…

  408. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Sorry Bo, I cant let you speak for me.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    No one wants to speak for you, just giving my impression on your posts. Deal.

  409. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    COLIN KAEPERNICK

  410. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    L.A,

    Im starting to think you are just another hater.
    ————-

    Meaning what? I’m a hater because I’m not sold on Campbell being a franchise QB?

    I guess I would be a hater if I said that Manning, or Brady, or Rivers sucked. Because it’s simply not true. “Cryme A.” Rivers may be a baby and Peyton maybe a goofy yokel and Brady may have long flow g@y locks, but they’ve had success in the NFL and consistantcy.

    The same simply cannot be said about Campbell. I’m allowed to have legitimate concerns about a decent-at-best QB leading our team. Again, I hope I continue to improve.

    Now if I’m a hater because I debate the QB with you personally, well then I think you need to ease up.

    My point with the Fouts/Plunkett comparison is that you are saying that Campbell is a legit downfield, vertical threat. Now I’m more inclined to agree after that KC game (which I was really, really impressed with JC to be honest), but historically he’s not.

    Seemed to me like you were exaggerating mightily at the time. Now if Campbell can cut it loose and get some home runs consistently, I’ll come back and say ‘dang Mistic, you were really Nostradusing this guy’ and mean it.
    ==========================================================

    fair enough, ill back off the hater blast for now.

  411. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:04 am
    There is only 1 nation

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s what I tell all these morons hereabouts when they try to talk about “Steeler Nation.” I generally just get a dull eyed look in response. Dumbazzes.

    It’s a nice place to live, actually, but it’s nearly intolerable during football season.

  412. LA to TheBay Says:

    Again, I hope I continue to improve.
    —————

    Lol, whereas I do value self-improvement, I meant HE continues to improve.

    Freudian perhaps? Can’t get complacent.

  413. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    COLIN KAEPERNICK

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Could be worth a 6th or 7th round flyer. Dude has all the physical tools; let him sit and learn for 2 years and he could do good things.

  414. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    This notion is disgusting. I evaluate qb’s based purley on what they do on the field. Talent is what i look at, period.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Is is talent? Or is it “purley” what they do on the field? i.e., Tebow has talent but has done squat “on the field”…

  415. mistic1 Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    COLIN KAEPERNICK
    ============================================================

    Not bad, probably on par with jake locker, maybe better. I wonder how he will do against better competition.

  416. r8rwill Says:

    i know someone on here knows which squeeler will cover marcel reese. who would be covering him in ffl/madden??

  417. LA to TheBay Says:

    fair enough, ill back off the hater blast for now.

    ———————

    Campbell takes us to the playoofs, we’re all jumping up and down and you can be the guy who stuck with him. No denying that.

  418. Carl Weathers Says:

    Aig, thanks for the link bro…
    I’ve found it in the past through raidernews.com but forgot about it.

    My 2¢ on tonights game, Da Bears! I hope they really beat up on Miami’s RB’s.

    Cheers!

  419. HairyBush Says:

    My point with the Fouts/Plunkett comparison is that you are saying that Campbell is a legit downfield, vertical threat. Now I’m more inclined to agree after that KC game (which I was really, really impressed with JC to be honest), but historically he’s not.
    ————————
    I watched the KC game again, and Campbell is the knig of under throwing wide open receivers, ecspecaily ones wide open down field. He needs to throw the ball where it gives his wideouts a chance to run under it. Campbell is lucky Jacoby made hte grab he did, it would have been picked. Hopefully Campbell learns to throw the ball deep with this arm he has, let our speedy wideouts make a play. (except you DHB)

  420. DMAC Says:

    I’m looking for some opponents for our annual Turkey Bowl. Got my soldiers ready. Any takers?

  421. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Thats what im saying the guy is a fiery leader and has the physical tools why not take a chance on him and let hue teach him some tricks

  422. The Big Banana Says:

    # SilverNBlackPA Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    HairyBush Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:04 am
    There is only 1 nation

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s what I tell all these morons hereabouts when they try to talk about “Steeler Nation.” I generally just get a dull eyed look in response. Dumbazzes.

    It’s a nice place to live, actually, but it’s nearly intolerable during football season.

    ====================================================

    Those morons that propagate the Nation moniker lose sight of the actual meaning of this term. Only a couple of teams can get away with using it. And only one is the originator…The Raidahs!!

  423. LA to TheBay Says:

    HB,

    I like the fact that Campbell was playing aggressive and chucking it 30+ yards. That throw on the first play of OT (our possesion) was just beautiful. And a great call by Hue.

    I see improvement or more willingness to throw one up and let a WR make a play, which I hadn’t seen him do much in Oakland.

  424. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Love the names for the D, couldn’t think of anything better. Really like “Black Out,” but how about somthing related to Seymour’s arm crossing? Since Big Rich is a main reason we are playing so much better.

  425. mistic1 Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    This notion is disgusting. I evaluate qb’s based purley on what they do on the field. Talent is what i look at, period.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Is is talent? Or is it “purley” what they do on the field? i.e., Tebow has talent but has done squat “on the field”…
    ==========================================================

    Your comment was reprehensible. Talent and what they do on the field, are both tools that i use.

    tebow is a talented runner but not an exceptional runner, he is slow.

    tebow is a below average passer. not the wave of the future.

  426. HairyBush Says:

    It’s a nice place to live, actually, but it’s nearly intolerable during football season.
    —————————
    I know how you feel, I live in New England

  427. mistic1 Says:

    # HairyBush Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    My point with the Fouts/Plunkett comparison is that you are saying that Campbell is a legit downfield, vertical threat. Now I’m more inclined to agree after that KC game (which I was really, really impressed with JC to be honest), but historically he’s not.
    ————————
    I watched the KC game again, and Campbell is the knig of under throwing wide open receivers, ecspecaily ones wide open down field. He needs to throw the ball where it gives his wideouts a chance to run under it. Campbell is lucky Jacoby made hte grab he did, it would have been picked. Hopefully Campbell learns to throw the ball deep with this arm he has, let our speedy wideouts make a play. (except you DHB)
    ==========================================================

    it is about trust between qb and receiver. a qb will take a chance if he believes in his guys making the play. our receiver core needs to continue to grow into that role. this is where chaz the glass fits (when healthy), he is sure handed and can catch the jump ball. ford has proven he can do it as well.

  428. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Your comment was reprehensible.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Such faux outrage. Get a life.

  429. mistic1 Says:

    I saw T.smith saying he throws it down the field in risky situations because he feels his targets are better playmakers than the guys covering them. So it may look like up for grabs at times, but he knows his guys will come down with it.

    here in oakland we are still waiting for our receiving core to inspire that kind of confidence.

  430. bcz24 Says:

    Donkeys released Jarvis Moss… 2nd first round pick from the AFC West 2007 draft class to be cut…

  431. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    this is where chaz the glass fits (when healthy),
    ==============================================
    Chaz should have bben put on IR. He’s done like my turkey will be Thursday.

  432. mistic1 Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    Your comment was reprehensible.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Such faux outrage. Get a life.
    ============================================================

    Bo, it was sickening. Put down your confederate flag and join us in this century.

  433. HairyBush Says:

    it is about trust between qb and receiver. a qb will take a chance if he believes in his guys making the play. our receiver core needs to continue to grow into that role. this is where chaz the glass fits (when healthy), he is sure handed and can catch the jump ball. ford has proven he can do it as well.
    ————————
    I agree, hopefully we will see the team connect on a flea flicker or other deep pass. If that relationship is forged we will be feared, God knows we have the speed, and speed kills. After watching a lot of the Raiders games (again) our wideouts definetley beat there man deep pretty consistently.

  434. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Bo,
    I find your comments both “Fair and Balanced!” LOL

  435. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bo, it was sickening. Put down your confederate flag and join us in this century.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Show me where I posted something that deserves this BS? Your comments always (find me a counterexample) pump up QBs of just one race. If anyone is a bigot it is yourself.

  436. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.

  437. mistic1 Says:

    we will need to run the ball. we are not built to throw the ball 40-50 times. We are a play action passing team. This doesnt mean we need to go I formation 3 yds and a cloud of dust. We can use the pistol zone read, and play action with 3-4 wides.

    we will have to have some success passing on first down.

  438. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:26 am
    Bo,
    I find your comments both “Fair and Balanced!” LOL

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Now THATS disgusting, lol.

  439. Dakota Says:

    Speaking of race….who do you guys think will take the race for the cup?

    Oh no, oh sheet! PuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuke….I can’t even pretend to like Nascar lol

  440. mistic1 Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.
    ===========================================================
    Why?

  441. BigTed707 Says:

    The Big Banana Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:03 am
    # inonewordraider Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Marshall Law – I like that, definitely not black curtain sounds too much like Steel Curtain

    =======================================================

    In reading the comments, sounds like TSR came up with that one just to spite the Steeler fans, being that they bit off of us with the whole Steeler Nation thing.
    ———————————————
    Someone during pre-season said “the McClain Assylum”
    I don’t remember who said it- but It’s a good one.

  442. kokomo Says:

    This is a MUST WIN game and I do think the Raiders have a great chance of winning. If the DL plays as they have been in recent weeks, I don’t see the Steelers stopping the Raiders. A lot is said of the Steelers Run D, but I do think DMAC/Bush combination will be too much for them

  443. DMAC Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Speaking of race….who do you guys think will take the race for the cup?

    Oh no, oh sheet! PuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuke….I can’t even pretend to like Nascar lol
    ==============
    Speed Racer.

  444. DKnight007 Says:

    They need to get to Ben and wrap him up, contain Mendehaal, and blanket Wallace!

  445. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Spread them out with Ford, Murphy, Z.Miller and Dmac, sprinkle some N.Miller. Play Bush at HB…The pass will set up the run, these are the Steelers.

  446. mistic1 Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Bo, it was sickening. Put down your confederate flag and join us in this century.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Show me where I posted something that deserves this BS? Your comments always (find me a counterexample) pump up QBs of just one race. If anyone is a bigot it is yourself.
    ===========================================================

    If your foot was any further in your mouth you could kick your own a$$.

    If you are examining my post looking for the race of qb’s i have touted this only further proves your small mindedness.

    Please leave race out of it.

  447. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:33 am
    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.
    ===========================================================
    Why?
    ========================
    Just giving you an opportunity to give your views on other successful NFL QB’s.

  448. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Pitt is giving up 63 rush yds per game, and 252 pass yds per. Please be logical about this.

  449. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic only likes Black QB’s. It’s obvious from his list. I’ve noticed this for quite sometime now. I believe his list has always been Garrard, Campbell, Vick, Freeman, McNabb and now he has added Troy Smith.

  450. aig-raiders Says:

    Oh forgot Cam Newton.

  451. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:36 am
    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:33 am
    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.
    ===========================================================
    Why?
    ========================
    Just giving you an opportunity to give your views on other successful NFL QB’s.
    =======================
    And to verify my feelings that you appreciated great QB’s regardless of race.

  452. mistic1 Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.

    =======================================================

    Not sure where this is going but ill bite.

    Young as gifted as he is, isnt in the same conversation as these other guys. he hasnt proven he can stay healthy. he has improved from the pocket, but i wouldnt put him in the same class as the others you mentioned.

  453. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:37 am
    Pitt is giving up 63 rush yds per game, and 252 pass yds per. Please be logical about this.

    +++++++++++++++++

    I wonder if this is one of those situations where their run defense is “artifically” good to speak because teams just know they can pass on the Steelers and so they don’t even bother running as much.

    Not saying Pitt’s defense isn’t legit–it is–but is it 63-yards-per-game legit against a DMac/Bush combo?

  454. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    What? no love for Freeman? that kid is good!

  455. bcz24 Says:

    Not sure where this is going but ill bite.

    Young as gifted as he is, isnt in the same conversation as these other guys. he hasnt proven he can stay healthy. he has improved from the pocket, but i wouldnt put him in the same class as the others you mentioned.
    *********
    Again you singled out the 1 black QB in that mix and ignored the 3 white ones?

  456. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Pitts run D is legit. Its designed to put 5 people on the line of scrimmage. No way your running at Hampton. Pass the ball, Polamalu is better vs the Run than the Pass.

  457. mistic1 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Mistic only likes Black QB’s. It’s obvious from his list. I’ve noticed this for quite sometime now. I believe his list has always been Garrard, Campbell, Vick, Freeman, McNabb and now he has added Troy Smith.
    ==========================================================

    pathetic.

    You trying to speak for me is comical.

    I love the guys on that list and they are not the only ones.

    It has nothing to do with race.

    I like guys that throw and run. Im not too impressed with the statue qb’s. of course the immobile guys are also good, but i prefer guys that can improvise when the scheme breaks down. it is just that simple.

  458. bcz24 Says:

    Pitts run D is legit. Its designed to put 5 people on the line of scrimmage. No way your running at Hampton. Pass the ball, Polamalu is better vs the Run than the Pass.
    *******
    Which is why, if you look closely, teams have the most success running on 3rd down against them, Casey Hampton can not play every snap. He is usually on the bench on 3rd and 5 or longer

  459. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:39 am
    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.

    =======================================================

    Not sure where this is going but ill bite.

    Young as gifted as he is, isnt in the same conversation as these other guys. he hasnt proven he can stay healthy. he has improved from the pocket, but i wouldnt put him in the same class as the others you mentioned.
    ======================
    In your begrudging way, you did give Brees, Brady and Rivers credit. Thx No harm done.

  460. RedneckRaider Says:

    Trying to decide: Should I join in on the confederacy talk?

  461. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Not sure where this is going but ill bite.

    Young as gifted as he is, isnt in the same conversation as these other guys. he hasnt proven he can stay healthy. he has improved from the pocket, but i wouldnt put him in the same class as the others you mentioned.
    *********
    Again you singled out the 1 black QB in that mix and ignored the 3 white ones?
    ===========================================================

    You are making a fool of yourself.

    i singled out young so I could explain why he isnt in the same class as brady, breeze or rivers.

    You are sick.

  462. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Pitts run D is legit. Its designed to put 5 people on the line of scrimmage. No way your running at Hampton. Pass the ball, Polamalu is better vs the Run than the Pass.
    *******
    Which is why, if you look closely, teams have the most success running on 3rd down against them, Casey Hampton can not play every snap. He is usually on the bench on 3rd and 5 or longer

    ========
    So whats your point? Run on 3rd & long?

  463. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    See thats why Colin Kaepernick is perfect…… He’s Black and White so you guys dont have to argue over it and his stats are pretty close to Newtons but without all the drama lol

  464. bcz24 Says:

    Manning rarely has to improvise. He reads the defense so quickly and accurately that the ball is gone before you get a hand on him. His difficulties this year are from all the injuries around him. Kevin Kolb had exactly the same production through the air when Vick was out as Vick, and that was without their best weapon in Desean Jackson. Yes, it is indisputable that Vick is the best running QB of all time, but the facts are clear that his success as a pocket passer this year is scheme and personal around him, more than it is his talent. If you disagree then you are clearly biased against white qbs because the passer numbers between Kolb and Vick are almost identical.

  465. HairyBush Says:

    Source: Raiders beat writer Vittorio Tafur

    Watching Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” and they said Tom Cable turned down appearance because he didn’t want to be on with co-host Warren Sapp
    ———————
    Good for Cable, FK Warren Sapp and his punk azz!

  466. mistic1 Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:44 am

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:39 am
    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Mistic1,
    What are your educated thoughts on Brady, Brees, Young,and Rivers.

    =======================================================

    Not sure where this is going but ill bite.

    Young as gifted as he is, isnt in the same conversation as these other guys. he hasnt proven he can stay healthy. he has improved from the pocket, but i wouldnt put him in the same class as the others you mentioned.
    ======================
    In your begrudging way, you did give Brees, Brady and Rivers credit.

    ===========================================================

    there is nothing begrudging about it. bardy brees and rivers are better than young, simple

  467. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    Please dont ever confuse me with calling you a bigot as “speaking for you”. You only like Black QB’s and it’s has always been obvious to me.

  468. bcz24 Says:

    So whats your point? Run on 3rd & long?
    ******
    No Im saying do what no one else has been able to do… sustain a prolonged rushing attack, causing Hampton to gas and miss more than just 3rd and long plays.

  469. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    If you are examining my post looking for the race of qb’s i have touted this only further proves your small mindedness.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Oh now I get it. For you, in “this century” it is OK to categorically exclude white QBs from your admiration, but it is “racist” and “disgusting” to notice.

    Carry on Archie.

  470. bcz24 Says:

    Oh now I get it. For you, in “this century” it is OK to categorically exclude white QBs from your admiration, but it is “racist” and “disgusting” to notice.

    Carry on Archie.
    ********************
    Perfect diagnosis. Thank you. I am done with that conversation now.

  471. LA to TheBay Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:48 am
    See thats why Colin Kaepernick is perfect…… He’s Black and White so you guys dont have to argue over it and his stats are pretty close to Newtons but without all the drama lol

    ——————

    Not good enough. He’s gotta be Chinese.

    The only black/white QB worthy of the discussion is science and sports crowning achievement Juice Campkowski.

  472. mistic1 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Mistic,

    Please dont ever confuse me with calling you a bigot as “speaking for you”. You only like Black QB’s and it’s has always been obvious to me.
    =============================================================

    I am not confused at all.

    You are making it a race issue, and trying to paint a picture that isnt accurate.

    You have no right to say what i do or dont like. based on the crap you post everyday, i doubt very seriously that you have attained a reading level high enough to grasp most of what i post.

    you are an embarrassment.

  473. LA to TheBay Says:

    Black or white, the ‘mobile QB’ only has limited success at the professional level. There a lot of guys that were succesful scramblers, but without good pocket presence and good mechanics, can’t survive in the NFL.

    They’re simply just good college players in a system vs. an opponent that allows for it.

    There’s no way with the size and speed of the defense that the spread option QB works.

    Vick’s most success in the league thus far has been as a pocket passer and looking to pass first.

  474. Carl Weathers Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:43 am

    It has nothing to do with race.

    I like guys that throw and run. Im not too impressed with the statue qb’s. of course the immobile guys are also good, but i prefer guys that can improvise when the scheme breaks down. it is just that simple.

    **********************
    By this statement you are a Gradkowski fan?

  475. bcz24 Says:

    You have no right to say what i do or dont like
    *********
    You have no right to say what I have or have not seen, yet you do it. You have no right to say what I can or can not comprehend. You do that do.

    You are the embarrassment.

  476. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Juice Campkowski. LOL.

    Lets see, where did he got to college… The University of Grambling at Buffalo?

  477. Carl Weathers Says:

    What mobile QB has won the Super Bowl?

    I can only think of Steve Young off the top of my head…

  478. BigTed707 Says:

    Hard to predict the matchup Sunday.
    It really depends on how prepared Huge Action and J-Camp are going up against this Defense. I know Big Rich and the Marshall plan will be in full effect early on, and our special teams are playing well.
    It will be up to Hue and J-Camp. They gotta limit turnovers, and make conversions on 3rd downs and in the Red Zone.

    Imo, If we can play with Pits, we can play with any team in this league.
    J-Camp did not look good against KC at all, but he has earned the start. Now lets see how he does with it.

  479. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Has there ever been an eskimo quarterback

  480. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    That can solve the problem

  481. mistic1 Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:50 am

    If you are examining my post looking for the race of qb’s i have touted this only further proves your small mindedness.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Oh now I get it. For you, in “this century” it is OK to categorically exclude white QBs from your admiration, but it is “racist” and “disgusting” to notice.

    Carry on Archie.
    ==========================================================

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Perfect diagnosis. Thank you. I am done with that conversation now.

    ==========================================================

    The fact that you cats are so stuck on race is frightening, i havent even mentioned it. i wrote about qb’s yo took a magnifying glass to it, looking for white guys?!?!

    truly sad.

    I havent excluded anyone based on anything but on the field talent.

    You guys should hop off your sisters and go raccoon hunting, or what ever it is your into, and leave the football talk to non neanderthals.

    Thank you.

  482. aig-raiders Says:

    You are correct. It takes a big amount of self control to be able to read your posts and not fall off the chair. So I usually ignore it. But I only jump in today because I’m just glad to see a few other bloggers on here finally calling you for what you are …. a bigot.

  483. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:59 am
    Juice Campkowski. LOL.

    Lets see, where did he got to college… The University of Grambling at Buffalo?
    ——————————

    LOL, no Juice Campkowski used to be Bruce and Jason. Al funded this clandestine experiment using money he saved on not paying head coaches over the years.

    He has since lost a grievance to only pay him one salary.

  484. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Elway was pretty mobile, and Fran Tarkenton got to the dance a few times. Staubach could move around well too.

  485. Carl Weathers Says:

    Remebered fran after I posted, don’t know how I forgot Elway though!

  486. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Black or white, the ‘mobile QB’ only has limited success at the professional level. There a lot of guys that were succesful scramblers, but without good pocket presence and good mechanics, can’t survive in the NFL.

    They’re simply just good college players in a system vs. an opponent that allows for it.

    There’s no way with the size and speed of the defense that the spread option QB works.

    Vick’s most success in the league thus far has been as a pocket passer and looking to pass first.
    ===========================================================

    Too much hype on this board.

    People think just because a guy is mobile, this automatically means he isnt a pocket passer.

    This is not true. because a qb is a good runner doesnt mean he cant or isnt a pocket passer.

    Steve young was mobile, he was a great pocket passer. its not about one or the other, the best guys have both.

  487. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Mistic1
    “there is nothing begrudging about it. bardy brees and rivers are better than young, simple”
    ===============================
    Guys, he did give credit to the 3 QB’s above and I praise him for it. In boxing, some like the fleet of foot who circle and jab. Like Ali, Leonard, Jack Johnson. Others like Brawlers like Dempsey, Frazier, LaMotta. What I found out is a preference for a mobile QB and those are generally Black. No problem, Fran Tarkenton fit that mold.

  488. LA to TheBay Says:

    You guys should hop off your sisters and go raccoon hunting, or what ever it is your into, and leave the football talk to non neanderthals.

    Thank you.

    ———–

    And listen to your Hank Williams and watch your NASCAR and drive your beat up IROC.

  489. mistic1 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    You are correct. It takes a big amount of self control to be able to read your posts and not fall off the chair. So I usually ignore it. But I only jump in today because I’m just glad to see a few other bloggers on here finally calling you for what you are …. a bigot.
    ===========================================================

    Blind specualtion, and way off base as per usual. You are ridiculous.

    I like mobile qb’s…that makes me a bigot?

    You are a joke

  490. LA to TheBay Says:

    Steve young was mobile, he was a great pocket passer. its not about one or the other, the best guys have both.

    ———————

    We agree. Like I said, there’s very few guys that achieve success as mobile QBs in the NFL and if they do, it’s because they had good pocket presence and awareness.

    Typically, the best scramblers are not good pure runners. Just good athletes that can find daylight when the play breaks down.

  491. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    And listen to your Hank Williams and watch your NASCAR and drive your beat up IROC.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Speaking of Rockstar… must be out noodling. Just watch out for the snappers.

  492. aig-raiders Says:

    Having a mobile QB that runs often can work against you. It’s like having a point guard that scores often (Allen Iverson). You dont see this type of point guard having much success as a “team” in the NBA. At the end of the day, a good QB needs to get his receivers involved. Mike Vick has always been a successful scrambler but his team struggled. I believe Mike Vick learning how to be a throwing QB this year is finally paying off with that combination. I see him running only as a “last” resort now.

  493. r8eray Says:

    Raiders at Steelers

    Florio’s take: In each of the last two years that the Steelers defended a Super Bowl championship, they played the Raiders. And the Raiders won. This year, the Raiders are much improved, and the Steelers are sliding again due to another rash of injuries. It’s hard to imagine the Steelers losing two in a row at home. Then again, it was impossible to imagine the Steelers losing five in a row last season.

    Florio’s pick: Raiders 20, Steelers 17.

  494. mistic1 Says:

    # Carl Weathers Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:00 am

    What mobile QB has won the Super Bowl?

    I can only think of Steve Young off the top of my head…
    ============================================================

    Staubach, elway, young , montana ( not as mobile as the others but he was mobile before his back surgeries),Theisman

  495. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Any great Chinese QB’s on the horizon? Billions are waiting!

  496. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:08 am
    And listen to your Hank Williams and watch your NASCAR and drive your beat up IROC.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Speaking of Rockstar… must be out noodling. Just watch out for the snappers.

    ————————–

    I think he was always a redneck at heart. Just discovered his true calling once he moved to Deliverance.

  497. bcz24 Says:

    It doesnt take a magnifying glass when you are clearly a proponent of only black QBs. When asked to discuss the merits of 4 qbs 3 white 1 black, you chose to ignore the 3 white, and only discuss the black one. You may or may not be a racist, I dont really care to be honest with you, but you are doing absolutely nothing to refute our perception. Name calling only solidifies my opinion. You have no facts to stand by so you reduce yourself to feeble minded insults.

    Again you are the embarassment.

  498. DMAC Says:

    I think two main keys to winning are going to be picking up Pitts blitzes and not turning the ball over. I think Pitts is 8+ in the turnover ratio.

  499. LA to TheBay Says:

    Staubach, elway, young , montana ( not as mobile as the others but he was mobile before his back surgeries),Theisman

    —————–

    Exactly. These were all guys that were mechanically sound (although Steve was a bit unconventional) that happened to be good enough athletes to escape pressure and make plays with their feet.

  500. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Maybe Vick is awesome. I just realized he had Greg Knapp holding him back in ATL.

  501. LA to TheBay Says:

    None were pure runners like most college spread option QBs.

  502. DMAC Says:

    Most exciting play…….
    Huff’s sack w/ Branch taking it to the house or Jacoby’s snatch of flowers to set up the OT?

  503. mistic1 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Having a mobile QB that runs often can work against you.

    ============================================================

    Dont back pedal, mobile does not mean run often. Mobile only implies his ability to break the pocket and improvise when the blocking breaks down. Either escaping the rush to throw 9 most preferabbly0 or run if nothing opens. david garrad is mobile, but he is a hell of a pocket passer as well.

    i like the combo guys.

  504. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    Why is it so hard for you to say you like Black QB’s? It’s quite obvious when there are 32 starting QB’s in this league and your list only has black QB’s on it, including a college guy. Dude, man up and just admit it.

  505. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Deliverance.
    “Make him squeal like a pig!” To the sound of Dueling Banjo’s!

  506. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade Jon Condo for a black longsnapper!

  507. LA to TheBay Says:

    Huff’s sack w/ Branch taking it to the house

    only because it was so unconventional.

  508. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Sorry, I meant “mobile” longsnapper.

    I can’t believe you racists are reading into my posts! Stop speaking for me!

  509. DMAC Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Huff’s sack w/ Branch taking it to the house

    only because it was so unconventional.
    =========
    Yeah, I think so too. Both were great plays though.

  510. DMAC Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Trade Jon Condo for a black longsnapper!
    ========
    I heard Chad Ocho Cinco was a great long snapper in high school.
    LMAO
    Naw, I’m just fk’n w/ you.

  511. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    It doesnt take a magnifying glass when you are clearly a proponent of only black QBs. When asked to discuss the merits of 4 qbs 3 white 1 black, you chose to ignore the 3 white, and only discuss the black one. You may or may not be a racist, I dont really care to be honest with you, but you are doing absolutely nothing to refute our perception. Name calling only solidifies my opinion. You have no facts to stand by so you reduce yourself to feeble minded insults.

    Again you are the embarassment.
    ===========================================================

    You have a problem. i was talking qb’s you started talking race, it is clear cut.

    Again I chose young to explain why he is disqualified for the discussion with brady brees and rivers.

    I think the moonshine is affecting your brain.

  512. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:15 am
    Sorry, I meant “mobile” longsnapper.

    I can’t believe you racists are reading into my posts! Stop speaking for me!
    —————————–

    Your racist ways took root on the Venice blacktops when all you saw were them Jheri Curls above the rim smoking you in 3 on 3 with your 5′9″ white buddies.

  513. mistic1 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Mistic,

    Why is it so hard for you to say you like Black QB’s? It’s quite obvious when there are 32 starting QB’s in this league and your list only has black QB’s on it, including a college guy. Dude, man up and just admit it.
    ===========================================================

    What list are we talking about?

  514. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL DMAC. 85 does seem like the type to bend over…

  515. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dueling Banjo’s classic:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

  516. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Your racist ways took root on the Venice blacktops when all you saw were them Jheri Curls above the rim smoking you in 3 on 3 with your 5′9″ white buddies.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    Perhaps! But there were no white buddies…

  517. LA to TheBay Says:

    Who woulda thought that TO would be the serious professional on the Bengals?

    Good for him. TOs having a great season. Why didn’t we sign him again?

  518. DMAC Says:

    Heading to the “big game” this weekend in Berkeley. Hopefully it doesn’t rain and spoil the fun.

  519. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Your racist ways took root on the Venice blacktops when all you saw were them Jheri Curls above the rim smoking you in 3 on 3 with your 5′9″ white buddies.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::

    Perhaps! But there were no white buddies…

    ————————

    You’re just mad that your afro never quite looked the same. Packed up and moved to Michigan where you could manufacture weapons of mass destruction.

  520. OG-RAIDERRR Says:

    I only like asian and pacific islander QB’s :)

  521. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    Can you refresh our memory with your list of favorite QB’s again please?

  522. BigTed707 Says:

    Welcome back Big John Henderson, cloggin it up!

  523. DMAC Says:

    I only like Mexican QB’s. (Sanchez)

  524. Carl Weathers Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Who woulda thought that TO would be the serious professional on the Bengals?

    Good for him. TOs having a great season. Why didn’t we sign him again?
    ****************
    Because we have DHB, Chaz & Murphy.

  525. Carl Weathers Says:

    Speaking of Murphy, is he back at practice? Didn’t see Jerry mention him lately.

  526. aig-raiders Says:

    I think Al Davis wanted both TO and Vick. I dont think those guys wanted to be here though.

  527. DMAC Says:

    # Carl Weathers Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:27 am

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Who woulda thought that TO would be the serious professional on the Bengals?

    Good for him. TOs having a great season. Why didn’t we sign him again?
    ****************
    Because we have DHB, Chaz & Murphy.
    =========
    YES! The great DHB!

  528. LA to TheBay Says:

    Murphy should go.

  529. aig-raiders Says:

    Murphy is back.

  530. Dakota Says:

    Man this Dexter show is great! Netflix watch instantly rules!

  531. DMAC Says:

    # Carl Weathers Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Speaking of Murphy, is he back at practice? Didn’t see Jerry mention him lately.
    =========
    Murph is ready to go this Sunday.

  532. LA to TheBay Says:

    Yeah, I heard that Al went after Vick. Rev. Dungy advised against it.

  533. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You’re just mad that your afro never quite looked the same. Packed up and moved to Michigan where you could manufacture weapons of mass destruction.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL. The route went Michigan to Venice to USMC to Oxy/Eagle Rock to Venice (again) to rural Chitown.

    And the corps stole my hair pride foreva.

  534. OG-RAIDERRR Says:

    Murph Dog !

  535. BigTed707 Says:

    24-17 Oakland.
    Z. Miller and L. Murphy all day!

  536. LA to TheBay Says:

    LOL. The route went Michigan to Venice to USMC to Oxy/Eagle Rock to Venice (again)
    ————-

    Relapse. Dr. Bo the Street Pharmasist Returns.

  537. DMAC Says:

    I don’t think DHB will play this Sunday. If thats the case……
    Who will have the bigger day?
    Ford or Murph?

  538. Carl Weathers Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Yeah, I heard that Al went after Vick. Rev. Dungy advised against it.
    **********
    Vick is looking sharp this year but I would still like to see a pitbull get onto the field and tear into his ass!
    ———–
    Didn’t Groves say he had all kinds of negative feedback after his trade to the Raiders?

  539. mistic1 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Mistic,

    Can you refresh our memory with your list of favorite QB’s again please?
    ============================================================

    i have never posted a list of my favorite nfl qb’s.

    Slap your self

  540. aig-raiders Says:

    Bo,

    How long were you in the corp? Grunt or POG?

  541. ArmChair GM Says:

    11 TD’s and no INT’s…

    Michael Vick is the best QB in the NFL right now. Get over it.

  542. Carl Weathers Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:33 am
    I don’t think DHB will play this Sunday. If thats the case……
    Who will have the bigger day?
    Ford or Murphy?
    *************8
    I think Zach Miller wins us this game… but between Murphy and Ford, I gotta go with Ford even though I drive a Chev!

  543. aig-raiders Says:

    of course you did,….you’re backtracking hard now…

    Garrard, Campbell, Vick, McNabb, Cam Newton and now Troy Smith.

  544. mistic1 Says:

    spread offnese doesnt mean the qb is a pure runner. more media hype.

    Brady rothlisberger, manning, brees are certainly not pure runners, and they are in the shot gun spread at least half of the snaps.

  545. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Relapse. Dr. Bo the Street Pharmasist Returns.

    :::::::::::::::::::::

    Followed soon by the life-altering realization that LA County cramped my personal style.

  546. ArmChair GM Says:

    11 TD’s and no INT’s…

    Michael Vick is the best QB in the NFL right now. Get over it.
    _____________________________________________________

    Unfortunately Vick doesn’t play for the Silver & Black…

    Now as regards Jason Campbell…

    If Campbell can work on his accuracy 1)across the middle, 2)on the deep throws, and 3)when he rolls to his right, he is capable of leading us into the postseason and beyond.

    Basically, dude has accuracy issues. His passes across the middle consistently sail high, and he consistently under throws deep passes.

    If he puts the time and work in, hopefully he can fix these issues. Otherwise, he will cost us in a big way. He’s getting away with it now because of team heroics.

    But as the race to the post season gets more intense, those mistakes will kill us when it counts the most.

    He’s got to get it fixed and fixed right now.

    But I’m rooting for the guy though.

  547. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Aig,

    I was 0844 Fire Direction Control from 86-91.

  548. mistic1 Says:

    aig,

    You are a liar.

    Show me a post that says “my favorite nfl qb list”

    If not, (and you wont because it doesnt exist), feel free to stop posting.

  549. LA to TheBay Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:38 am
    spread offnese doesnt mean the qb is a pure runner. more media hype.

    Brady rothlisberger, manning, brees are certainly not pure runners, and they are in the shot gun spread at least half of the snaps.

    ———————-

    I said spread option in case this was in reference to what I mentioned.

    Yeah, those QBs have the vision and the protection to be able to spread it out. Also, a quick decision and quick release is key.

  550. bcz24 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Man this Dexter show is great! Netflix watch instantly rules!
    ****
    Which season are you on Dakota? That show is fantastic!

  551. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic, I knew it wouldnt take me long to get your list….lmao!!!!!

    ———————————————————

    mistic1 Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 11:21 am
    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    all fire, more sizzle

    not a high wire type act

    a poker faced silent leader

    blow your doors off

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Mistic, lay off the metaphors! That was from one small post!

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Campbell is more of a poker faced silent leader. He is not a high wire type act, but instead a well schooled technician and excellent managing the game and making plays when you need them.

    —————

    A cold, calculating Field General with unmatched prowess and an unbelievable winning record, passed over by Pro Bowl selection do to bias against his Greatness and cat-like reflexes by haters who will quiver and be reduced to ash as they are laid to waste by his WRATH!!!!!!!!
    ==========================================================

    Dont be upset fellas, my boys in college and the pros are , had a huge weekend. The folks that say I dont know qb talent, my favorite players, and my favorite team is pissing on their pillow case, and i love it.

    David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.

    ————————————————————–

  552. LA to TheBay Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:39 am
    Relapse. Dr. Bo the Street Pharmasist Returns.

    :::::::::::::::::::::

    Followed soon by the life-altering realization that LA County cramped my personal style.

    ————–

    I always looked at it like I could make some new friends, work out… catch up on my reading. Maybe even get a tattoo.

  553. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Man this Dexter show is great! Netflix watch instantly rules!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Can you watch it on the whole wall of old TVs at the shop?

  554. r8eray Says:

    BSPN has us in their Power Rankings as 12th overall!!

  555. bcz24 Says:

    Moonshine? Is that supposed to be some witty retort alluding to me being a redneck? I live in New York buddy, and I have never seen, let alone sampled moonshine.

  556. aig-raiders Says:

    Bo,

    I got huge respect for the Corp. Never served though. Were you in the first gulf war? Sounds like you were in artillery?

  557. DMAC Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:39 am
    Relapse. Dr. Bo the Street Pharmasist Returns.

    :::::::::::::::::::::

    Followed soon by the life-altering realization that LA County cramped my personal style.

    ————–

    I always looked at it like I could make some new friends, work out… catch up on my reading. Maybe even get a tattoo.
    ===========
    Tatoo? What about a big DHB tatted across your stomach?

  558. aig-raiders Says:

    Bo,

    I bet you wished you had these redbull/hi caffeine drinks back then huh?

  559. r8eray Says:

    Oakland coach Tom Cable reportedly wouldn’t go on Showtime’s “Inside the NFL” because he didn’t want to go on the show with former Raider Warren Sapp. Sapp has been very critical of Cable and the Raiders in the past. It’s Cable’s right to not want to talk someone.

  560. r8eray Says:

    Oakland running back Darren McFadden believes the Raiders aren’t be taken seriously enough after its 5-4 start. If the Raiders can beat Pittsburgh on Sunday, that perception could change. Meanwhile, the Football Outsiders have some statistical keys to the Raiders’ game at Pittsburgh.

  561. mistic1 Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Mistic, I knew it wouldnt take me long to get your list….lmao!!!!!

    A cold, calculating Field General with unmatched prowess and an unbelievable winning record, passed over by Pro Bowl selection do to bias against his Greatness and cat-like reflexes by haters who will quiver and be reduced to ash as they are laid to waste by his WRATH!!!!!!!!
    ==========================================================
    I didnt write this

  562. BigTed707 Says:

    I agree with armchair that J-camps accuracy needs work, and would add that he is too late on his timing in the pocket.
    Hopefully he’s feeling some heat now that Grads is back to 100%, and he responds with hard work and increased effort.

  563. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:46 am
    Bo,

    I got huge respect for the Corp. Never served though. Were you in the first gulf war? Sounds like you were in artillery?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yep I aimed the 155mm guns and got out just before the Gulf mess. Glad I didn’t have to breathe the sh!t that fked up so many others…

  564. DMAC Says:

    LA to TheBay,
    So did you think about it?

  565. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    Are you going to tell me you didnt write this….

    “Dont be upset fellas, my boys in college and the pros are , had a huge weekend. The folks that say I dont know qb talent, my favorite players, and my favorite team is pissing on their pillow case, and i love it.

    David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.”

  566. DKnight007 Says:

    445.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    Spread them out with Ford, Murphy, Z.Miller and Dmac, sprinkle some N.Miller. Play Bush at HB…The pass will set up the run, these are the Steelers.

    ^^^^^^^
    Agreed….but I would also like to see more Wildcat and Pistol formations and Campbell roll out of the pocket more away from pressure.

    Have to keep that Steeler defense off balance. Use DMC more as WR also in the slot and use double TE sets with Miller and Myers and Reece needs to be put in the slot also and used as more of an H back.

    The offensive scheme and formations need to be MIXED up all game long to keep the Pitt defense off balance!

  567. mistic1 Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Mistic, I knew it wouldnt take me long to get your list….lmao!!!!!
    =======================================================

    Dont be upset fellas, my boys in college and the pros are , had a huge weekend. The folks that say I dont know qb talent, my favorite players, and my favorite team is pissing on their pillow case, and i love it.

    David Garrard, Cam Newton, Campbell Smith, ill take any one of these dudes in silver and black in a heart beat. These cats get it done.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wrong again AIG,

    I listed some of my favorite players in response to being ripped for my opinions on how they play.

    This is not nor hav i ever posted a list of “my favorite nfl qb’s”

  568. Dakota Says:

    550.bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:42 am
    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Man this Dexter show is great! Netflix watch instantly rules!
    ****
    Which season are you on Dakota? That show is fantastic!

    ______________

    Season 1, episode 10

  569. LA to TheBay Says:

    DMAC,

    Only if he is converted to a shutdown CB and single-handedly wins us a Super Bowl. Then, yes.

  570. Dakota Says:

    553.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:44 am
    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Man this Dexter show is great! Netflix watch instantly rules!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Can you watch it on the whole wall of old TVs at the shop?
    ____________________________

    No, just on one old black and whit Magnavox!

  571. aig-raiders Says:

    my buddy was a GI doing those mobile tracked arty and he had to drive the ammo track during the first gulf. They stayed up for so many hours that he recently admitted he fell asleep at the wheels during the border crossing. They lost their convoy and somehow found them again. They were too scared to call the XO. crazy shcytt.

  572. mistic1 Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Moonshine? Is that supposed to be some witty retort alluding to me being a redneck? I live in New York buddy, and I have never seen, let alone sampled moonshine.
    ============================================================

    it alludes to your pathetic inability to see beyond race. new york or not, you have still embarrassed yourself.

  573. DMAC Says:

    Cool

  574. LA to TheBay Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:53 am
    aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Mistic, I knew it wouldnt take me long to get your list….lmao!!!!!

    A cold, calculating Field General with unmatched prowess and an unbelievable winning record, passed over by Pro Bowl selection do to bias against his Greatness and cat-like reflexes by haters who will quiver and be reduced to ash as they are laid to waste by his WRATH!!!!!!!!
    ==========================================================
    I didnt write this

    ————————-

    No that was me, I think AIG is addressing your response to that. With your boys and the pillow-pissing and such.

  575. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Garrard is weak

  576. aig-raiders Says:

    Bo,

    You’re a lib right? How the heck did you end up in the corp?

  577. mistic1 Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:59 am

    mistic1 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:53 am
    aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Mistic, I knew it wouldnt take me long to get your list….lmao!!!!!

    A cold, calculating Field General with unmatched prowess and an unbelievable winning record, passed over by Pro Bowl selection do to bias against his Greatness and cat-like reflexes by haters who will quiver and be reduced to ash as they are laid to waste by his WRATH!!!!!!!!
    ==========================================================
    I didnt write this

    ————————-

    No that was me, I think AIG is addressing your response to that. With your boys and the pillow-pissing and such.
    ==========================================================

    L.A

    That is a decent impersonation of my writing style, but its a little over the top.

  578. OG-RAIDERRR Says:

    List of favorite QB’s

    1.Jamarcus Russell
    2. Ryan Leaf
    3. Tim Couch
    4. Akili Smith

    :)

  579. BigTed707 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:57 am
    550.bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:42 am
    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Man this Dexter show is great! Netflix watch instantly rules!
    ****
    Which season are you on Dakota? That show is fantastic!

    ______________

    Season 1, episode 10
    ———————————-
    Nice! Im on Season 3, Disc 4 ;)

  580. RedneckRaider Says:

    No news = good news today?

  581. aig-raiders Says:

    At least Jamarcus Russel did carry the Raiders to 2 wins over Tampa and Houston in 2008.

  582. aig-raiders Says:

    Redneck,

    Have you ever stopped by Clicks for a Raider game? I leanred that you get a 10% discount at Wilks Dugout if you get your Raider card at Clicks.

  583. mistic1 Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    Garrard is weak
    ===========================================================
    15td’s 7ints 1440 yds, 104.9 rating 69.4 completion percentage. plus 131 yds rushing and 2 tds.

    This is weak?

  584. RedneckRaider Says:

    Aig- Didn’t know that. I always grill at home, never made it out to Clicks. (And this week, I have to be at work for a project and will be watching on my laptop)

    Did you ever get around to the Gtown Commissary?

  585. The DirtyRaccoon Says:

    131.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
    # The DirtyRaccoon Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    122.Bauce 2 Dope Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    # J Hill Says:
    November 17th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Matt gets the sack that leads to the defensive TD!
    *******************************

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh….all things Matt i will listen to ya

    ********************

    Agreed Matt Shonuff is becoming a beast! He comes in @ diff times, but it seams he always makes a play. I like Scott too, they make an awesome pairing.
    *********************************************

    Who is the mastaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hKh6ZQGOE

    ************************

    Matt Shonuff is the Shogun of Oakland… LMFAO

  586. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Wow… Dakota are you following the news about the carzy guy holed up near the Angostura Reservoir?

    http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/howard1.jpg

  587. aig-raiders Says:

    No Commissary, wife says too far. I dont she likes bbq much. BTW, Wilks dugout got jerseys for cheap but they aint the real thing. They try to pass off premier stuff as on field authentics. I finally compared theirs vs mine and you can see the diff.

  588. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    Bo,

    You’re a lib right? How the heck did you end up in the corp?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Stop falling for the BS caricatures. I served like Jimmy Carter and George McGovern served. I despise chickenhawks like Cheney and Reagan and Gingrich and…

  589. Dakota Says:

    586.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    Wow… Dakota are you following the news about the carzy guy holed up near the Angostura Reservoir?

    http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/howard1.jpg

    +++++++++++++

    Are they trying to take his Heisman Trophy away for all the money he took to go to Mich?

  590. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    made ya click!

  591. LA to TheBay Says:

    L.A

    That is a decent impersonation of my writing style, but its a little over the top.

    —————

    Thank you, sir. Satire is my specialty.

  592. The DirtyRaccoon Says:

    555.bcz24 Says:
    November 18th, 2010 at 11:45 am
    Moonshine? Is that supposed to be some witty retort alluding to me being a redneck? I live in New York buddy, and I have never seen, let alone sampled moonshine.

    *************************

    Gawld Daaammm, what a miserable existence… You live in New York, AND you have NEVER drank GodsCountry Dew?
    I don’t fell sorry for many people, I do fell sorry for you. The Dew is the Necter of the Earth, and New Yrok is HE!L.

    Dude, back away from the ledge…. We can fix this. Let me know if you need a road map to success!

  593. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade Jon Condo for Gods Country Dew!

  594. DMAC Says:

    Later peoples!
    Go A’s!
    Go DUBS!
    Go Cal Bears!
    Go Fremont High Tigers!
    Go Raiders!
    (FK it! Go Sharks, even though I don’t watch hockey)

  595. bcz24 Says:

    LoL Raccoon. I like New York. Taxes are a little high, but I dont own a house anyways. Bills fans get a little annoying sometimes but I just remind them that their team name stands for Boy I Love Losing Superbowls

  596. aig-raiders Says:

    Bo,

    I hear you. I used to follow the Marines FB page and the Marines on there were mostly far right guys. FB had to take it down. You sir has just earned another notch of respect from me. Nothing like a lib with Marine Corp cred.

    I’m not a fan of chickenhawks on the right nor a fan of the far left who never served either. Wolfowitz and Cheney are the two biggest Chickenhawks, but the one that takes the cake for me is Douglas Feith. What an a$$ he is.

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