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Raiders pass rush must be under control

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 20th, 2010 at 4:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

For a guy who lost his first four games of the season because he made bad situations worse, Ben Roethlisberger has made a career out of doing the opposite.

The more time Roethlisberger spends running plays as drawn up in the playbook, the better chance the Raiders have of beating the Pittsburgh Steelers today at Heinz Field.

The New England Patriots took charge of their 39-26 win over Pittsburgh last Sunday by keeping Roethlisberger from breaking from the pocket, shaking off defenders and completing passes downfield.

Roethlisberger finished 30 of 49 for 397 yards and three touchdowns, but the numbers were deceiving, with much of the damage coming in a 23-point fourth quarter in a game the Steelers never seriously threatened to win.

The Raiders are tied with San Diego for third in the NFL with 27 sacks, one behind Green Bay and St. Louis, but it will be crucial for defense ends Lamarr Houston and Matt Shaughnessy, as well as rush end Kamerion Wimbley and Trevor Scott, to attack in such a way that keeps Roethlisberger from breaking to the outside.

It is there that Roethlisberger will look downfield for receivers such as Hines Ward and the speedy Mike Wallace to break off their routes and be ready for a spontaneous big gain.

“I think he has a unique skill set that lends itself to making big plays as plays break down,’’ Steelers coach Mike Tomlin told Bay Area reporters by conference call this week. “That’s his distinguishing characteristic, if you will.’’

To hear former 49ers quarterback Steve Young tell it, Roethlisberger is much different than quarterbacks such as Tom Brady and Peyton Manning who specialize in dissecting defenses as drawn up in the playbook.

Young, in a weekly appearance on KNBR this week, broke down Roethlisberger’s game this way:

“To me, he’s a great improvisational quarterback and not a great quarterback because he doesn’t do it within the structure of the play called in the huddle.

“He’s proved me wrong with winning Super Bowls, but a lot of that is his defense getting the ball back a ton. But you talk about playing in the system within the confines of what you just called in the huddle, his production is average.

“I think he’s phenomenal when that thing breaks down and he improvises.’’

Roethlisberger, who was suspended for the first four games of the season for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy stemming from allegations of sexual assault, views his 137.0 quarterback rating when flushed from the pocket as “strictly a coincidental thing. I’m not a quarterback who gives up easily. I’m always trying to keep a play going and fight through it.

“Sometimes it’s good, sometimes it’s not so good.’’

Raiders defensive coordinator said Raiders can’t rush the passer as if he’s a stationary target.

“Everybody that rushes needs to be aware of where he is and grab cloth and every piece of him you can and get a lot of guys on him,’’ Marshall said..“These guys are trained and schooled to always be aware of where the quarterback is no matter who we’re playing. If it’s a quarterback that really can’t run then they are more `cut it loose’ and not as aware of where he is.’’

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250 Responses to “Raiders pass rush must be under control”

  1. Seymour Bush Says:

    Pound the squealers

  2. The Real Ray Says:

    2!

  3. 408RAIDER Says:

    Lets go Raiders!

  4. Kirk Says:

    I hear the Autumn Wind…

  5. Born with a Patch Says:

    Defense will win this game for us! again….. Weak O line against our sack happy D line, cant wait!!! Our ascension is at hand…..

  6. imaquaman Says:

    sorry that was me

  7. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Discipline and the Kitchen Sink

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/

    GO RAIDERS!!!

  8. Nnamdi21 Says:

    THEY’RE PLAYING THE STEELERS TODAY?!

  9. The Real Ray Says:

    Ben is going to get sacked 4-5 times. Our “D” (front seven)
    is as good as it gets!

  10. socalraider2408 Says:

    in the words of our fearless leader Cable, I’m totally “GEEKED” about tommorows game! I’ve been looking to this game since we beat the Chefs. Life last sunday just wasnt the same. In fact, it was a total loss with the only late game televised being the 49ers and Rams.

    One Nation Under Al….RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDEERRRRRRRRSSS

  11. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Pound the squealers

    ……………..

    That just doesn’t sound right.

  12. RaiderChaos Says:

    Gotta get the Steelers like the old days!!!! Atkinson hitting Swann and then cslling him a sissy! LOL……

    http://bit.ly/cFFneh

  13. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    One Nation, under Jacoby Ford!

  14. RaiderRetribution Says:

    There is going to be an Autumn Thunderstorm in Pittsburg Sunday;

    Raiders 24 over Pittsburg 6

    Raiders will dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

  15. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    We are BACK and we are pizzed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. socalraider2408 Says:

    Have any of you seen those ridiculous jerseys Nike may be coming out with for the 2012 season? We all know Al will never change the Raiders uniform since he created it himself.

  17. socalraider2408 Says:

    The Autumn wind is a Raider! He’ll knock you round and upside down and laugh when he has conquered and won. HAHAHA. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIDDDEEERRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSS

  18. Born with a Patch Says:

    If anybody gets fined as a result of this game it better be our boys… wanna see them throwin their weight around

  19. socalraider2408 Says:

    18.Born with a Patch Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
    If anybody gets fined as a result of this game it better be our boys… wanna see them throwin their weight around

    ——————————–
    Amen brother! We need to outplay them at their own game by being more physical and downright nasty

  20. The Real Ray Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    # Seymour Bush Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Pound the squealers

    ……………..

    That just doesn’t sound right.

    ___________________________________

    The lil piggy (steelers) squealed all the way home!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_G2zp-opg

  21. The Real Ray Says:

    24-10 Raiders

  22. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m staying tuned, SoCalRaider. I’m thinking Nike is going to sign a contract with the league, and Al’s going to hold out and insist on his old uniforms. The big fight at the OK Coral we’ve been waiting for between Al and the league could take place over these stupid uniforms. It would be interesting to see what would happen if the league signed a contract forcing teams to try the Nike unis one or two game per year a piece and Al flat out refused, and refused to pay any fine.

  23. socalraider2408 Says:

    22.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    I’m staying tuned, SoCalRaider. I’m thinking Nike is going to sign a contract with the league, and Al’s going to hold out and insist on his old uniforms. The big fight at the OK Coral we’ve been waiting for between Al and the league could take place over these stupid uniforms. It would be interesting to see what would happen if the league signed a contract forcing teams to try the Nike unis one or two game per year a piece and Al flat out refused, and refused to pay any fine.

    ___________

    I dont think it will fly with Al. Some of the team uniforms are designed well but then you have some that look like my 2 yr old daughter went crazy with her Crayola kit. Personally, I’m one for tradition and not to mention we have the best uniforms in the NFL but I would maybe be open to seeing an alternate jersey worn in the preseason or something

  24. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The number one defense against the run is about to meet the number two running team.
    We have a great running tandem with McFadden and Bush and I think they’ll do well.
    They’d better.
    Seems like the best way to beat Pittsburgh is to do do it the Brady way. To get that kind of a short passing game though we also need a running game to make that happen.

    Both Gradowski and Campbell are competent quarterbacks, but I’d feel more comfortable with Gradowski starting against Pittsburgh.
    To beat that Pittsburgh defense we need a quarterback who reads the defense fast and that isn’t Campbell.

    Campbell’s biggests defects are that he doesn’t read the defense fast enough, has slow footwork, and takes too long to make up his mind.
    I’m tempted to say that Campbell will have a slow, cautious, first half and be replaced by by Bruce in the second.

    Either way, I think we’re going to win!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    RAIDERS 27-21!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Who cares how many penalties the Raiders get?

    Just win baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  26. marios Says:

    socalraider2408 Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    Have any of you seen those ridiculous jerseys Nike may be coming out with for the 2012 season? We all know Al will never change the Raiders uniform since he created it himself.

    ————————————–

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=yhoo-ept_sports_nfl_experts-287637

    Read this

  27. socalraider2408 Says:

    I have to disagree with you ENGLANDRAIDER. look for us to use motion out the backfield to our advantage. Campbell will only have to manage the game at best. We cant rely on QB play to win it with him or Grads with our current WR play. The groundgame is key! mark my words! gotta use play action and use the over aggresive Steelers strengths against them. Screen passes and wr slants will be big gainers.

  28. socalraider2408 Says:

    scratch the wr slants

  29. socalraider2408 Says:

    getting a LB one on one with DMC is a matchup ill take all day. DMC needs to be used in the slot to draw the mismatch and then we “pound The Bush”

  30. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Campbell “manages” a game real well as long as the game plan is working out.
    He’s real methodical but I don’t think that’s what you need in a quarterback.
    Nevertheless, he can beat beat ‘em.
    I’m still guessing Campbell first half and non-methodical Bruce second.

    Either way, the main thing is that somehow the universe has righted itself:
    The Raiders and Kansas City are fighting for the division and here, in this crucial game for Oakland, it’s the Steelers and the RAIDERS the way God intended.

  31. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    God bless OSU for beating Iowa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Money in my pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    How much did they beat them by

  33. SnB Production Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER,

    The game will be one by the defense. If the game is close, then the Raider offense can focus on running the ball and taking a few shots.

    If the Raiders get down, the O-Line is not good enough for the team to be a primary pass offense.

    As far as the game itself. I haven’t seen enough evidence from either QB that they are exceptional at being accurate passers.

    Campell is a 56% passer and Gradkowski is a 52% passer. Both numbers are unacceptable from a starting QB.

    One of these two guys have to seize the job.

  34. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    What was the score of the ohio state game

  35. Seymour Bush Says:

    You’re not going to run on the Squealer defense. Maybe without Palamolu up there in run support you might have a chance to grind it out on the ground but still not likely. The squealers have not played well lately. They’ve dropped two of their last three, only beating a lame 2-7 Bunghole team. All that being said, expect Shi**sburgh to come out fighting for their lives in this game.

  36. DaRayduh Says:

    http://otrsportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Purple-Drank.jpg

  37. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    SnB:

    Don’t actually think that either is going to “seize the job”.
    On the other hand, both are competent and we’re lucky to have them both.
    We need to look to the draft though.
    The best part is that neither one is Russell-three years of friggin torture!

  38. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Man I cant get on any sport websites can some1 let me know whats up wit the game

  39. SnB Production Says:

    The Patriots were able to run the ball on them. the Raiders are not good enough to be a pass first offense like the Pats or Colts. The Raiders don’t have the QB talent yet…either one of the two on the roster develops into one…or the guy has to be drafted/acquired.

    So the Raiders have to try and run the ball, use screens and find advantageous down and distance to throw.

  40. Twocents Says:

    I live in a third world country. Granted, I chose to live here.

    I accept that I must be self sufficient, in fact I relish the opportunity to do so.

    I have been without electrical power for nearly 24 hours, not a problem. I have a generator. But there are more efficient ways to generate power than by using gasoline or propane.

    Our community has a power plant that can produce all the power we need and enough left over to sell to other communities. It has been shut down by the state. We are forced to buy our energy from a government monopoly at exorbitant prices.

    Please help us fight this statist oppression, send money to Twocents.

  41. SnB Production Says:

    Nor do they have the receiver talent yet for a sustained pass 1st offense.

    You have to play with the team you have and I think/hope Hue Jackson understands that.

    Cut it loose is all fine and good. But playing within the game plan and not turning it over is a bit better

  42. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    What was the score of the ohio state game

    ——————————————————-

    Thats OSU 20-17

  43. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I’ll send you money if u give me the score to the ohio state game

  44. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Damn why couldnt it be 21-17 the damn half of point killed my card

  45. TerrapinRaider Says:

    This is interesting. While they all are claiming some sort of Raiders resurgence; not many analayst, if any at all, are giving the Raiders a shot at beating the Steelers. Its almost as if they still don’t believe in the Raiders – not that I totally blame them either.

    But if you look at this objectively, even statistically, the Raiders are a very tough matchup for the Steelers. The Raiders have a statistically better offense and equally if not better defense (as of late).

    The Raiders have one thing the Steelers simply cannot cover – SPEED! On the outside the Steelers simply cannot matchup. This is not NE; this is worse than NE. They are mistaken imho. NE went with the dink-n-dunk stuff simply because they do not have a big deep threat as they would have had if Moss was there AND they are only OK good running the ball. They did the best they could do with their personnel. The Raiders personnel can stretch the Steelers defense to ridiculous proportions and they can actually mount a formidable rushing attack.

    Call me crazy but this is a matchup that is much tougher for the Steelers to win than the Raiders. What the Steelers have going for them is home field adv.

  46. SnB Production Says:

    That home field advantage is pretty solid.

    If the Raiders win the line of scrimmage on both sides, they will win this game somewhat easily.

    The Raider speed you mentioned will get a couple of big plays in a game…..

    The key is staying with a game plan and not getting down a bunch of points and no turnovers…

    Raiders got do a better job in the red zone too

  47. SnB Production Says:

    But if they go out and “cut it loose” in a way to try and mimick the Colts…they are going to lose badly.

    Cable understands who the Raiders really are. They will win…although everyone may not be happy with the way they do it.

    I hope this is a slugfest!

  48. ohioraider Says:

    Time to bring back the “criminal element.” Time to play some whup ass.

  49. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    I’ll send you money if u give me the score to the ohio state game

    ——————————————————-

    Send the money care of Jerry. He’ll forward it to me-right Jerry?!

  50. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Jerry’s mod won’t let me post the link.

    Vittorio, over at sfgate.com/sports/raiders wrote a good article on the D-line. Worth the effort….

  51. TerrapinRaider Says:

    If the Raiders play sound football, I don’t think Pitts have only a 30-40% chance of winning considering their home field advantage. But if the game plan is flawed or the execution lacking it will be a tough outting for the Raiders on the road.

    The big negative I can think of is the Raiders are notorious for coming out flat when traveling cross coutry for an early game. Thats what I worry about most.

  52. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    twocents…

    Which thirld world country? Wouldn’t be Muscoy, Ca.?

  53. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Traveling cross country and coming out flat after a bye week. I hope these boys are focused and ready for the fight.

  54. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    My neighbor is a big time Steelers fan (jerk!), and I was getting his perspective about the game.

    I know that fans usually have a better handle on their team than the talking heads. So I asked him what he thought. Here’s what he said.

    1) With Biesel and Smith being hurt they are not holding the edge on the runs as much as they usually do.

    2) Their O-line is really banged up and can be had with a good rush.

    3) They still do a very good job stopping the run and getting after the QB. If your name isn’t Brady or Manning then you better find a way to run or you’re screwed.

    4) Their db’s aren’t anything special aside from Polamalu. If a QB has time, which is a big if, then it is possible to make some big plays.

    So it seems pretty simple to me that this game will be all about the big boys up front. Run the ball on O, and get to Big Ben on D.

    Football doesn’t have to be too complicated.

  55. DaRayduh Says:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=303242294

    Ohio game for PD81

  56. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Terripin….

    They’ll be just fine, Momma Gradkowski is bringing a spread of homemade Polish grub, like last year.

    Secret to success…

  57. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # socalraider2408 Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    I dont think it will fly with Al. Some of the team uniforms are designed well but then you have some that look like my 2 yr old daughter went crazy with her Crayola kit. Personally, I’m one for tradition and not to mention we have the best uniforms in the NFL but I would maybe be open to seeing an alternate jersey worn in the preseason or something

    ………….

    What if the league signs some kind of contract and tries to make him? I’m sure owners would have to vote on it, whatever. But what if it came down that way? Be interesting.

    I agree with you about some of these uniforms. What’s with the cyclist look? Aren’t football teams supposed to look big and intimidating? Why would they want their team to look like a 52 man Tour de France team?

  58. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    HA!

    Beavers are beating up Lance’s team..

    Go Beavs!!

  59. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I live in a third world country. Granted, I chose to live here.

    I accept that I must be self sufficient, in fact I relish the opportunity to do so.

    I have been without electrical power for nearly 24 hours, not a problem. I have a generator. But there are more efficient ways to generate power than by using gasoline or propane.

    Our community has a power plant that can produce all the power we need and enough left over to sell to other communities. It has been shut down by the state. We are forced to buy our energy from a government monopoly at exorbitant prices.

    Please help us fight this statist oppression, send money to Twocents

    …………

    LOL. You don’t have to reach far for an example to support your argument against the mere existence of a government, do you? After all, all of us will likely live in a 3rd world country someday with nothing more than propane to give up light.

  60. DaRayduh Says:

    57.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    # socalraider2408 Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    I dont think it will fly with Al. Some of the team uniforms are designed well but then you have some that look like my 2 yr old daughter went crazy with her Crayola kit. Personally, I’m one for tradition and not to mention we have the best uniforms in the NFL but I would maybe be open to seeing an alternate jersey worn in the preseason or something

    ………….

    What if the league signs some kind of contract and tries to make him? I’m sure owners would have to vote on it, whatever. But what if it came down that way? Be interesting.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If Al doesn’t want to wear those butt ass ugly uniforms, he won’t. If the league mandates it, he’ll tell the league to fck off. Those designs will turn away most fans, but will attract the flies and maggots that eat dog sh1t left on the ground to decompose.

  61. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Speaking of grub….about that time..

    Bloodymary’s @ 9:00am PST…!

  62. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    This is interesting. While they all are claiming some sort of Raiders resurgence; not many analayst, if any at all, are giving the Raiders a shot at beating the Steelers. Its almost as if they still don’t believe in the Raiders – not that I totally blame them either.

    But if you look at this objectively, even statistically, the Raiders are a very tough matchup for the Steelers. The Raiders have a statistically better offense and equally if not better defense (as of late).

    The Raiders have one thing the Steelers simply cannot cover – SPEED! On the outside the Steelers simply cannot matchup. This is not NE; this is worse than NE. They are mistaken imho. NE went with the dink-n-dunk stuff simply because they do not have a big deep threat as they would have had if Moss was there AND they are only OK good running the ball. They did the best they could do with their personnel. The Raiders personnel can stretch the Steelers defense to ridiculous proportions and they can actually mount a formidable rushing attack.

    Call me crazy but this is a matchup that is much tougher for the Steelers to win than the Raiders. What the Steelers have going for them is home field adv.

    ……………….

    It’s just going to take more than a 3 game win streak to convince a lot of people that a team that’s stunk for the previous 7 seasons has officially turned it around. The Raiders are playing good football, and I think the media is recognizing it. Didn’t SI do an article after the Raiders/Chiefs? You want the Raiders to be mentioned amongst the top tier teams of the league, and that’s just not going to happen yet. They’re not there yet. The need to be about one game better right now to get that billing. And, to think, they’d have it if not for Jano’s muffed kick in Arizona. It’s a fitting analogy. Some of Al’s scholarships are keeping this team from being on the top tier of this league, despite their improved play.

  63. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    DaRayduh Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    If Al doesn’t want to wear those butt ass ugly uniforms, he won’t. If the league mandates it, he’ll tell the league to fck off.

    …………

    Can he do that? What could the league do in return?

  64. Twocents Says:

    I lost my satellite connection. I had to send my poor frail wife out a small window onto a slippery, snow covered roof to wipe off the dish.
    Please send money to Twocents and his frail wife.

  65. DaRayduh Says:

    RMR, Doesn’t matter what the league could do in return. Al is so litigious the league would back off immediately.

  66. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Momma Gradkowski’s going to fuel the boys up with some homemade Pierogi’s.

    The game is in the bag.

  67. sirblitzalot Says:

    I open the Alameda Newspaper sports section this morning and the front page headlines read as follows: ‘Defenseless Warriors lose to the Knicks” (top ¼ of the page); “The 113th Big Game” (middle ½ of the page); The bottom ¼ of the page split two stories: Chasing it Down (regarding High School Football) & Kurt Warner’s opinion regarding 49ers Troy Smith. No story regarding the huge Oakland Raiders/Steelers Game on the front page at all!
    That’s it! That is the last straw. I have had it!! I cancelled my subscription (which I have subscribed to for the last 25 years!) I e-mailed the ANG and advised them why I cancelled. I hope they learned a lesson. I would encourage all east bay area subscribers to do the same! Either put the Raiders center stage or f/u.
    It pisses me off that the local Newspaper and media (including national) show the Oakland Raiders No Respect and just a modicum of media coverage. That’s alright though because that knife cuts both ways.…Only Raider fans really know what is going on in the Raiders camp. The rest of the nation (non-Raider nation) think that this is the “same old Raiders”. Thanks to the media grossly underestimating the present state of this organization a lot of gamblers are going to lose their shirt Sunday! Looking at “The Line”, it is apparent that they are betting in the dark. The Raiders are 7 point underdogs! I hope the Steelers believe the gamblers.

  68. raiderzmaverick Says:

    No. The “experts” see that the Steelers stuffed Chris Johnson, Ray Rice etc. Held them to under 60 yards rushing.
    They see that the only way the steelers have been beat was through the air. So they assume that since our QB play has been pretty dormant (Campbell was shut down by the better defenses he’s played against) that we will loose.

    It’s not an unfair assumption. If you looked at our offense against the KC Defense it was dead for 3 full quarters.

    But, I think we can keep getting better each game and gelling more and more. And our Defense will keep us in the game no matter what. So it’s now up to our WRS and QB to step up their game. I’m sure we can run, but it will be slow going probably.

    If Campbell steps up his game to his WRs we will almost definitely win.

  69. SnB Production Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    Momma Gradkowski’s going to fuel the boys up with some homemade Pierogi’s.

    ===================================================
    This is unreal….LOL!!!!! Whatever works!

  70. DaRayduh Says:

    The Momma Gradkowski meal will be brought to the hotel this year. A must read for those concerned.
    http://www.csnbayarea.com/11/18/10/Gutierrez-Tough-Task—-Gradkowskis-Retu/landing_gutierrez.html?blockID=356061&feedID=5878

  71. Seymour Bush Says:

    # 909RaiderLifer Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Terripin….

    They’ll be just fine, Momma Gradkowski is bringing a spread of homemade Polish grub, like last year.

    Secret to success…
    ===========================================

    Momma Gradkowski is Italian. His dad is Polish. Nothing like home cooked Italian food.

  72. Seymour Bush Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I live in a third world country.
    ====================================

    So do I. It didn’t used to be a 3rd world country. It just turned into one in the last 10 years of conservative rule.

  73. Raider 510 Says:

    The same way our defense will keep us in the game (and many of you think it will win it for us outright) is the same way Pittsburgh’s D will keep them in the game. They have a legitimate top 3 defense and have proven it year after year. Our D has looked great the past couple of weeks but before this team stepped it up, they almost made me throw up with their performance (or lack thereof) against an Andre Johnson-less Houston team. I see Campbell in a lot of tough 3rd down situations, so we’ll see what he’s made of. I’m not saying he needs to be great, but if he can’t protect the football it could get ugly really quick.

  74. Twocents Says:

    The snow flurries are getting worse and my wife refuses to go out on the roof. I managed to to use a hose to clean off the dish.

    This is my last chance to see the Raiders annihilate Pittsburg. Please, please send money to Twocents.

  75. DaRayduh Says:

    Raiders will be loose and relaxed tonight at the hotel, eating good Gradkowski food, enjoying the evening. It will reflect tomorrow, as the Raiders will show up to beat a tense and uptight Steeler team still reeling in the dumps, tho they’d never admit it, from the beat down at the hands of the Pats. Tomlin will say he unleashed hell upon this weeks practice at the post game presser for no apparent reason.

  76. 100PercentRaider Says:

    I think the first few possession wills be huge in this game. Mentally, the steelers are going to come out fired up after last week, maybe doubting themselves a litle bit, and if we can match their physicality early on i think we can wear them down b/c we are the younger, healthier team.

  77. PassTheCheetos Says:

    “pound The Bush” Sounds good to me

  78. PassTheCheetos Says:

    I want to see dmc run some slants.

  79. Chris in NY Says:

    The way McFadden is running it right now I think even against the Steelers he could have a huge day.

    Campbell worries me though. He needs no pressure to have any chance of being effective and the Steelers will get pressure one way or another. Wouldn’t be surprised to see us with 6 pts or less at halftime and Bruce Almighty to come to the rescue in half 2.

  80. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Also, our screen game has been noticeably absent minus the Seattle game. Would really like to see Reece and DMC get involved that way to take some bite out of their blitz. The Pats lined welker up in the slot and threw him a bubble screen as a pseudo run play. DMC or Ford could be dangerous on the same play, especially if you motioned DMC to the slot from the backfield.

  81. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Interesting debate here…
    Who would you have match up on Wallace, Routt or Nnamdi? Obviously if Nnamdi is 100% its a no brainer, but hes not, so its an interesting question for a key matchup.

  82. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Yep. Camp will have to step it up this game. None of that crap we saw for 2.5qs vs KC. If he comes out with that same crap, the Raiders lose.

    And Pitts in Not a Top 3 defense. That are officially ranked behind the Raiders in Total Defense at No. 9. Raiders are No. 7. (They are ranked behind the offense too, statistically speaking and there its not even close No. 12 vs No. 24).

  83. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Hey terrapin,
    do you by any chance go to maryland?

  84. TerrapinRaider Says:

    graduated.

    I think Routt can handle Wallace. Wallace is good but nothing our DBs can’t handle. In my elementary opinion Wallace get a lot of attention on that team because he is the only guy with speed that can stretch the field. So he gets the most opportunities to do it.

  85. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # DaRayduh Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    RMR, Doesn’t matter what the league could do in return. Al is so litigious the league would back off immediately.

    …………….

    For the sake of discussion. What could the league do in return? If you don’t have an answer, don’t answer. But I don’t see why you have such a problem with me asking.

  86. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Seymour Bush Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Twocents Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I live in a third world country.
    ====================================

    So do I. It didn’t used to be a 3rd world country. It just turned into one in the last 10 years of conservative rule.

    ………..

    Ha ha. Bingo.

  87. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # PassTheCheetos Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    “pound The Bush” Sounds good to me

    ……………..

    Pound the palm is more fitting for this crowd.

  88. EMRaiders Says:

    So, if we win, Mama-Kowski gets a big contract as a chef for the Raiders for the rest of the season. Because no doubt her calorie-carb filled italian food gave the Raiders the energy they needed to beat down the Steelers.

    If we lose, just the same, she (well, her food actually) will be blamed for feeding the kids with food that made them slow and sluggish.

    LOL…

    EAT UP, but please, take it easy on the “cutting it loose” tonight…lol

    GO RAIDERS!!!

  89. PassTheCheetos Says:

    Not to mention davis’ record in the court room is pretty much the opposite of what our team records been the last 7 years

  90. 100PercentRaider Says:

    I see, the reason I ask is I have a friend there now who is a fellow member of raider nation.
    wallace worries me for that reason. Hes the only guy you have to worry about downfield, and he has done it anyways.

    Btw, is anyone watching Arkansas-Mississippi st? This is a crazy game

  91. Raiders for life Says:

    I’m sure AD has put a price on big bens head. Someone on rhe Raider D is going to get a bonus check this week.

  92. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL. You guys are so defensive, man. It’s called a discussion. I didn’t know that asking what would happened if Al refused a league order to wear certain uniforms would be taken as such an affront by Al’s fans.

    Memo to everyone else: Don’t question Al’s litigious skills. It’s a sensitive topic to some in here.

  93. 100PercentRaider Says:

    The NFL would probably refuse to sell Raider jerseys, and force them to provide their own uniform sponsor or something like that.

  94. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    I’m sure AD has put a price on big bens head.

    ……………

    I’m sure he doesn’t. If he did, and the league were to find out about it, they would remove Al, kicking and screaming, if need be.

  95. 100PercentRaider Says:

    The Colts are under the impression that the Pats bug their visiting locker room…

  96. DaRayduh Says:

    85.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    # DaRayduh Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    RMR, Doesn’t matter what the league could do in return. Al is so litigious the league would back off immediately.

    …………….

    For the sake of discussion. What could the league do in return? If you don’t have an answer, don’t answer. But I don’t see why you have such a problem with me asking.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    League will do absolutely nothing. What could they do? Make a feeble attempt, maybe some threat or court order to make the Raiders wear those ass ugly uniforms, but Al still won’t do it. It would backfire. Als’ a maverick, beats to his own drum. And besides, why would he want to change uniforms? They are internationally recognized all over the world. Seen ‘em in Amsterdam, Sydney, Hong Kong, all over Argentina, Prague. Hot items. Coolest ever.
    All the teams that wear the new joke uniforms will become laughing stocks. Al knows this.

    So, for the sake of discussion, what could the league do in return? Nothing.

  97. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL. Look how pissed you guys are?

    Memo to everyone:

    Don’t ever bring up a scenario involving the league ordering Al to do something.

    And if you do want to bait Al’s loyalists, I think we found their soft spot.

  98. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al’s not a maverick. He’s just strange. And if the NFL wants him to try different uniforms, he will. If they have to send some people to Oakland and suit the players up in the new uniforms their selves, they’ll do it.

  99. djohnnyg Says:

    Goodell’s goal is to turn this league into a bunch of pu$$ies. First he makes everybody where ‘pink’ all the time, then he fines and suspends players who hit too hard, now he wnats teams to where these gayass uniforms on top of it.

    Goodell is the J. Edgar Hoover of football.

  100. DaRayduh Says:

    92.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
    LOL. You guys are so defensive, man. It’s called a discussion. I didn’t know that asking what would happened if Al refused a league order to wear certain uniforms would be taken as such an affront by Al’s fans.

    Memo to everyone else: Don’t question Al’s litigious skills. It’s a sensitive topic to some in here.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No sensitivity here. I’m just saying if the league ordered Al to wear those hideous looking ass ugly uniforms, he’d say no. They don’t fit the Raider image. And they couldn’t do anything about it. If they tried, Al would eat them alive in the court room. Al has sharp teeth. Always has. Al rolls to his own tune. Nothing mysterious about it.

    What would you do if Jerry Brown told you that all men had to wear skirts, and it became law, and you didn’t want to. Would you wear a skirt because someone told you to? Or could you be your own person and do your own thing? Besides, if they threatened to put you in jail, no court of law would uphold it because it threatened you image and would render you unable to perform your responsibilities as a man. If Jerry Brown ever passes a law like that, it won’t effect me because I don’t live in California.

    So in summary, I don’t lose any sleep worrying about the Raiders ever putting on those ass garbarge rags.

  101. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I think if the league wants the Raiders to wear new jerseys, they will.

  102. DaRayduh Says:

    99.djohnnyg Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
    Goodell’s goal is to turn this league into a bunch of pu$$ies. First he makes everybody where ‘pink’ all the time, then he fines and suspends players who hit too hard, now he wnats teams to where these gayass uniforms on top of it.

    Goodell is the J. Edgar Hoover of football.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    :lol:

  103. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Your comparison to government forcing citizens to dress a certain way is apples to oranges.

  104. Kirk Says:

    I think Kerry Collins…er….ah… Roethlisberger… will have a tough time tomorrow with our D line.

  105. sirblitzalot Says:

    I don’t like Goodell either, but he is an example of why CEO’s make the millions that they make. He is going to open up scoring by pusifying the Defenses. That will make the scoring in the NFL approaching NBA scoring. That will be to he delight of everyone? Less “franchise” caliber players out do to injuries secondary to devastating hits, increased revenues as a result of increased interest due to high scoring games. Even the unsofisticated, non-football-nerds can appreciate scoring. Scoring are mini celebrations and that is why we ALL love football. Sofisticated fans will appreciate great defense but that does not sell as well as Points! So we have to adapt because corporate America is driven by PROFITS, not opinion or our passion. Cutting throats comes with the territory and Goodell is a slasher.

  106. Raider 510 Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    Yep. Camp will have to step it up this game. None of that crap we saw for 2.5qs vs KC. If he comes out with that same crap, the Raiders lose.

    And Pitts in Not a Top 3 defense. That are officially ranked behind the Raiders in Total Defense at No. 9. Raiders are No. 7. (They are ranked behind the offense too, statistically speaking and there its not even close No. 12 vs No. 24).
    —————————-
    You’re right, but statistically vs the Texans the Raiders had the 2nd ranked defense. The stats didn’t do anything for them that game. If we have to work from behind against Pittsburgh I just can’t see Jason Campbell throwing us back into the game. We have to start early and win the field position, and time of possession. It’s gonna be close but we can do it.

  107. DaRayduh Says:

    101.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
    I think if the league wants the Raiders to wear new jerseys, they will.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    No they won’t. Image is everything. Only way it will ever happen is if the world becomes a metrpolis
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film)
    and then if that happens, who would care anyway.

    Seriously, you don’t throw away your image after 50 years just cause some new age geek comes along with some computer graphic space age design for some irrelevant looking ass rags and tells you to conform.
    Noway. Raiders have more balls than that. Now the niners, no arguments there.

  108. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If Goodell wants the Raiders to wear a certain type of uniform, they will. What’s standing in his way?

  109. djohnnyg Says:

    Pittsburgh’s gonna be out for blood. First, they still remember last yr.s Raider win on their turf, and they are gonna be eager to show everyone that last wk. against NE was an aberration and they are still the tough Steelers. But, Raiders can simply play better and no matter how bad Pitt. WANTS to win Raiders beat ‘em anyway.

    I have no idea what to expect tomorrow.

  110. DaRayduh Says:

    108.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    If Goodell wants the Raiders to wear a certain type of uniform, they will. What’s standing in his way?

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Al Davis

  111. djohnnyg Says:

    I was reading up on this uniform thing and what I learned is Nike can’t force individual teams to change their logo’s or their general “brand”. The “dramatic changes” referred to by Nike management pertains more to the “quality” of the uni’s and less to do with color schemes, multiple uniforms (ala Oregon Ducks) etc.

  112. DaRayduh Says:

    Good post #105.

    Those guys hit hard in the old days. Real Hard.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/123674/americas-game-1980-oakland-raiders?team=oakland-raiders#s-p1-n1980-so-i0

  113. djohnnyg Says:

    The whole uniform thing is all about $ as noted above. That’s why we see the throwback uni’s all the time. They want you to buy the throwback’s too. Hey if you’re a “real fan” you’ll buy ALL your teams jersey’s won’t you?

    That being said, I loooove that throwback Raider road jersey with the black outlining the silver numbers on a white jersey. Only problem is they lost both games they wore that jersey, but it is sharp.

  114. DaRayduh Says:

    111.djohnnyg Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    I was reading up on this uniform thing and what I learned is Nike can’t force individual teams to change their logo’s or their general “brand”. The “dramatic changes” referred to by Nike management pertains more to the “quality” of the uni’s and less to do with color schemes, multiple uniforms (ala Oregon Ducks) etc.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I know. Just a silly topic, just trying to stay loose tonight anticipating the game. All ready put in my three cents this week (can’t use two cents anymore, don’t want to offend him).

    The hay is in the barn. Lets hope they smash the Steelers stone cold tomorrow.

  115. Raider75 Says:

    Luck is a beast

  116. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # DaRayduh Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    108.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    If Goodell wants the Raiders to wear a certain type of uniform, they will. What’s standing in his way?

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Al Davis

    …………….

    LOL. I’m being serious.

  117. DaRayduh Says:

    OK. Al Davis and John Herrera the lap dog and his team of lawyers. The Raider image is Al Davis, Nobody messes with that, nobody. I’ll bet Al is licking his chops just waiting for the opportunity to be told what to do, just so he can fight them in a court room. He’s due for another round. But my money says he’s focussed on tomorrows game right now.

  118. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    DaRayduh Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    OK. Al Davis and John Herrera the lap dog and his team of lawyers.

    ………..

    LOL. Come on. Seriously.

  119. priesttj Says:

    That ‘80 team in reality isn’t better than the team we have now. This team is faster more powerful, a much better rinning game. Better secondary and the LB’s on that team were better overall defense though I’ll take this year. I’ll take the Oline we have now. On Offense they had better more experienced and quality. The QB on that team was up to that point not thought of as higly as you might think he was just starting to settle in as a decent QB in the league. The Eagles QB was thought of more highly than Plunkett. Plunkett was thought of as still struggling with his confidence. That game was one of the better games of the year for him.

    People don’t realize it but if you started the year with Plunkett and Campbell at the same point you’d have a hard time deciding which guy to go with. Plunkett hadn’t done a thing in the league up to that point. We really were a middle of the pack type team. We got in as a wildcard. I believe 10-6 or 9-7 but we got hot in the playoffs and voila!!! the rest is history.

    GThis team has more of a realistic chance than that team at this point in the season. A lot more firepower and a better defense and special teams.

  120. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    That ‘80 team in reality isn’t better than the team we have now.

    ………..

    I’m not taking your bait. Not tonight. Enjoy the game tomorrow, Priest.

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  122. lefty12 Says:

    The Oline in 1980 had Upshaw,Shell,and Dalby as starters.Branch,Bob Chandler at WR and Casper,Christiansen,and Chester at TE.And the major difference-Plunkett at QB.Sorry,but no way this team is better than the 1980 team.You could make a strong case for the Def. being equal,but todays offense doesn’t compare.

  123. Dirtiest Raccoon Says:

    232.r8eray Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    This will be the second week in a row I’ll be rooting for the Mules to win a game.

    I was glad they beat KC last week and I hope they beat the Chargers this week.

    Think that’s best for the Raider hopes of winning the AFC West.

    Still, rooting for the Mules makes me sick.

    ______________________________________________

    You’re not the only one!

    *******************************

    F the Donks, and the STDer’s! Don’t “root” for either. Root for the RAIDERS to win out! It is in our hands. Just take care of betness!!

    Root for a Donk – Sparky 0-0 Overtime tie with 6-8 week injuries.

  124. Dirtiest Raccoon Says:

    104.Kirk Says:
    November 20th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
    I think Kerry Collins…er….ah… Roethlisberger… will have a tough time tomorrow with our D line.

    *****************

    I guess you don’t know how Ben plays.

  125. djohnnyg Says:

    We got in as a wildcard. I believe 10-6 or 9-7 but we got hot in the playoffs and voila!!! the rest is history.

    Actually the Raiders were 11-5 in 1980.

  126. djohnnyg Says:

    The 80 team was the last hurrah for the legendary core of the 1970’s. With a few changes such as Plunkett at QB and Kenny King at RB. We also had Art Whittington at RB and Malcom Barnwell as another WR with the aforementioned Chandler for good measure. Ray Chester at TE too. I think Casper was gone by then. Remember how Houston became “Raiders South”? They had Stabler and Casper.

    The 83 LA Raiders were an entirely different team than the 76 and 80 teams.

    3 Super Bowls in 7 years. Not bad.

  127. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 are you really saying that Kenny King and Arthue Whittinton are better than DMC and Bush and Reece. I’ll said the WR’s were much better as well as TE’s But Plunkett was no where near his best he was much better in ‘83 he took a ton of unnecessary sacks that year and his completion % was pedestrian eventhough he had a couple of HOF calibre WR’s and TE’s. That Oline was getting old including Dalby certainly Upshaw and Shell were declining. But the rec corp (TE’s WR’s)was hands down much better. I think this line could be very close to that one by years end.

    Defensively our LB’s were dynamic and we had Tooz and I don’t think Howie was on that team was he if he was he was a rookie? That was no where near what I call a great team they just got hot.

  128. lefty12 Says:

    Casper was traded during the season He started 6 games for us in 1980.

  129. priesttj Says:

    I can’t find the roster was Howie on that team?

  130. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,The RBs of today are probably better as a group,but I must admit van Eeghen is one of my all time Raider favorites,so as of now I can’t put Reese over him at FB(not saying he shouldn’t be,I just can’t).Dalby was in like his 8th year.Even though Art and Gene were declining,they were superior to Gallery and Veldheer.Todays WRs weren’t nearly as good as Chandler and an older Branch.And,even though Plunkett was still getting himself over his shell shock,there is no comparison between him and JC-it isn’t even close.I will admit todays WRs might look a lot better if they had a Plunkett throwing them the ball.

  131. lefty12 Says:

    Howie never played in Oakland,so the answer is no,he wasn’t on that team.

  132. priesttj Says:

    One thing I do know we had a rookie MLB named Matt Millen who filled a sorely needed void in the middle. That LBing corp was s good as it gets. This LBing corp is very similar with exception of The Stork. I think the secondary we have now is better than that one was. Dline hands down better now. Like I said They had at rec corp and maybe QB if Campbell doesn’t get much better but I think he will. And we are better in the kicking game aside from GUY.

  133. M Lonetree Says:

    Lefty,

    so the 16 games Howie played as an Oakland Raider never happened?

  134. lefty12 Says:

    I tend to agree though that by years end this years Oline might be comparable to that 1980 Oline.78 & 63 were getting old and declining by then.

  135. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 if you lok back objectively I think you liked Plunkett much better than you do JC. I did as well but Plunkett was still struggling he had some better games by this point in the season than JC and everyone liked Plunkett. But if you could see the two players side by side it’s much closer than either of us want to admit. I loved Van Eeghan as well but even he was a shell of himself by then.

    I think we want to romance that era and we should but if Campbell continues to improve he could very well be every bit as good for us as Plunkett was now will that result in 2 SB’s? Who knows but that year Plunkett would take unecessary sacks and he was playing with much better players. Go back and look at his stats. They weren’t pretty he just WON!

  136. lefty12 Says:

    I stand corrected.He did play for the 1981 Oakland Raiders.Was thinking of Marcus Allen.

  137. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,his stats were never great,but he was still better than JC is.I don’t share your positive outlook with JC.I haven’t seen him play 1 game as a Raider that compares to Plunkett,and I am probably one of the few who doesn’t believe Plunkett should be in the HOF-at least if Stabler isn’t.

  138. M Lonetree Says:

    Raider dominance for two decades was based upon and fueled by the best offensive line professional football had.
    The Raider defensive line has had its share of characters in Howie and Tooz and Alzado and Sistrunk, but there were also many simply seviceable or replaceable players. Davidson, Birdwell, Keating and Lassiter may have been the best base group of lineman the Raiders ever put on the field, but the current group led by Seymour could well be the best the Raiders have ever assembled. We shall see.

  139. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 No he hasn’t not yet but there are 7 games left and then the playoffs if we make it. The next 2 months could change your mind drastically.

    What has done it for me is the way he played with the game on the line vs SD and the way he played with the game on the li ne vs KC. Don’t forget if not for Millers’ Phantom Phumble we running the clock out vs KC he brought us from 13 down. Against SD I think we were like 7 points down and won by 8. Now everyone will talk about what he did prior to that but I look at what a QB does when we NEED it the most.

  140. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,when it got to a point in the game and we NEEDED our QB to make a play,there was faith Plunkett would make it.That faith isn’t there with JC.In fact now we hope it doesn’t get to the point where we need our QB to make a big play because most believe he won’t make it.This could change,but,unlike you,I have serious doubts it ever will.

  141. Try Some Reality Says:

    but I look at what a QB does when we NEED it the most.

    ______________________________________________________________________________

    Priest – if we look at that statement objectively, we’l realize that we also needed it most, as you say, against SF and he didn’t deliver. Now that’s not to take away from what he did in OT against KC. But, at best, our QB situation right now is average or mediocre. Let’s see what happens in Pitt. I can tell you one thing, if winning in Pitt is dependent on the QB, I don’t like our chances. If, however, our D and rush offense are on point, I think we’ll be in good shape.

  142. priesttj Says:

    M

    Defensively this team can carry us into and beyond the playoffs. They are that good. People forget Plunkett was never like a Manning or Brady for us he was more of a competitor than great passer who lit up the scoreboard. His physical abilities had long since deteriorated and he was playing more with guts and valor and skill.

    IMO JC is much more accurate and athletic than Plunkett was for us. He hasn’t even peeked yet, while Plunkett was way past his peek years. If Campbell starts to compete near the level Plunkett did we will have one helluva QB. That’s how Plunkett won he played veery play like it was his last. He damn near willed those teams to wins.

  143. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    Priest I don’t know where you get such faith in JC, I hope you are right. What I see is a timid QB who when there was no expectation was mediocore. He has risen his game at times to keep us in it but it’s been more other people then him bringing it and that is fine as long as he doesn’t make mistakes.

  144. lefty12 Says:

    There are a couple of traits I believe really good QBs must have and I doubt JC has them.#1 is the ability to step to the LOS and be able to read the Def. instantly.It has nothing to do with intelligence,any QB that gets to this level has to be intelligent,but how fast he can process what he sees.The other is being able to anticipate what is going to happen,although this can get better the more you play with your teammates.

  145. Try Some Reality Says:

    JC was hot and cold against KC. Terrible first half. Decent second half. Excellent in OT.

    Against SD, he was spotted a bunch of points by the special teams and defense.

    Against Denver, well, we all know that game was pure Defense and DMAC. Seattle went pretty much the same way.

  146. JONTRAIN Says:

    STOP COMMENTING ON THE “UNIFORM” ISSUE. THOSE UNIFORMS ARE FAKE. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NFL. I MEAN DANG C’MON PEOPLE!

  147. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 I know I know I get it I really do. I’m just giving you my opinion on it. Not saying at al that everyone should see it the way I do.

    But I have studied JC since he’s been here and IMHO he is light years from what I saw vs Tenn. If the trend continues which I have to believe it will just based on the direction he’s going. I think he will lead this team just fine he doesn’t need to blow us away with stats he needs to make sme stick throws when we need them and stay away from fatal mistakes.

    Same as what Plunkett did and theis running game and defense can do the rest. I’m not at all saying he’s the second coming I’m saying he’s a lot better than what people think of him in here. You dn’t do what he did if you’re not………..period That throw in OT said it all for me.

  148. Try Some Reality Says:

    There is a uniform issue? The Raiders won’t change their uni. There’s no need. It’s the best in the NFL. All these other teams have to reinvent themselves but the Raiders unis can never be matched.

  149. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    that throw was more Ford, he went and got that ball…..it was a hail mary to me but nevertheless, even JR got that in so much that he said he was always trying to let his wr make plays lol.

  150. lefty12 Says:

    Priest-I sincerely hope you are correct because I agree we have a very good team and how far we go will depend on the play of the QB.Our Oline is getting better every week,our Dline is the strength of the team IMO,we have one of the better set of RBs in the league,and the DBs and LBs are better than adequate.I believe we are better than the Stealers as a team.

  151. Try Some Reality Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    November 21st, 2010 at 1:21 am

    that throw was more Ford, he went and got that ball…..it was a hail mary to me but nevertheless, even JR got that in so much that he said he was always trying to let his wr make plays lol.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Which one? I do believe the one to set up the tying FG was ALL Ford. In fact, if not for Ford’s spectacular grab, we’d be at 4-5 and in here talking about how JC let us down against KC. Ford bailed him out, for sure. But the throw in OT, I give JC credit for. That was a nice pass.

  152. priesttj Says:

    I get it from watching the game sjust like you guy’s do. The difference is I don’t knock him when he puts a ball ut there and a rec makes a play for us. That is what they’re supposed to do. If he doesn’t throw it they cannot catch it.

    I saw Grads get bailed out mopre times than JC does yet I never read the same comments about him. All a QB can do is throw it to the bets of his ability. I saw Plunkett throw a bunch of ducks that guy’s caught and no one said he sucks.

    When JFords drpped that ball in the SF game to end the game no one said hey JC threw an accurate pass and Ford screwed it up they just looked at his QB rating and laughed.

    There seems to be a double standard where these 2 players are concerned because I haven’t seen a thing that make sme believe that Grads is this better QB but yet everyone says he is. You don’t do what JC has done in his career and be a BUM, I’m sorry I just don’t buy it. he’s not a great QB maybe never will be but people say he sucks. Well I don’t agree…………so we’ll see.

  153. lefty12 Says:

    I have to agree,the pass in OT was a nice pass.Could it have been better?Sure,he could have hit Ford in stride and we could have gotten a TD,but that is nitpicking.He needs to hit on those throws more often.He also needs to see those plays are there and let it fly when they are.

  154. priesttj Says:

    So Hobs when Grads thrws it up for grabs and guy’s catch it does he suck as well. Like inthe Steeler game last year when he was just winging it?

    Or was he the gutsy fiery Grads???

  155. Try Some Reality Says:

    When JFords drpped that ball in the SF game to end the game no one said hey JC threw an accurate pass and Ford screwed it up they just looked at his QB rating and laughed.

    _________________________________________________________________

    Interesting you mention that Priest. I seem to remember that very thing happening to Grads to end the game against Houston. Did you come to his defense for that? Or did you say that, at the end of the day, Grads lost and that’s all that matters?

    Look, Priest, I’m not here to compare Grads against JC. I mention the comment above because you brought it up in your post. In fact, Grads hasn’t been gold either. The fact of the matter is that our QB position (whether Grads or JC) is mediocre. The strength of this team is the D and running game. The receivers and QBs still have work to do to catch up to the rest of the team.

  156. lefty12 Says:

    Nobody mentioned BG tonight.We weren’t comparing them.We were discussing the pluses and minuses of our starting QB and if anything we were comparing him to Plunkett.Priest,you feel there is a double standard by some who are pro BG and this is probably true.To be honest,I feel the same way about some people who support JC.Until he proves he doesn’t deserve to have the job,JC is the starting QB of our team.We need to quit comparing the 2 of them and focus on what we see in our starter.If there is to be a change,the coaches will do the deciding,not a bunch of fans on a blog!

  157. Try Some Reality Says:

    http://thefastertimes.com/nflpredictions/2010/11/19/890/

    What a friggin idiot this guy is. I just posted a comment in response to his writeup and I hope you guys do the same.

  158. Try Some Reality Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    November 21st, 2010 at 1:42 am

    Nobody mentioned BG tonight.We weren’t comparing them.We were discussing the pluses and minuses of our starting QB

    ___________________________________________________________________

    Thank you. Precisely!

  159. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 he hit Ford in stride in the 1st half and he flat dropped it and hit him for a 1st down 12 yard pick up and he dropped it. He hit DHb with a perfect pass fisrt play of the game and he dropped it. As much as we rag on JC it’s not like it’s just him screwing up. If Ford catches that pass it’s 6.

    I mean we just take this guy’s game apart and don’t look at the surrounding circumstances becaue it seems to me we’re loooking for an indictment. He has played solid football if unspectacular yet NO ONE seems to give a crap it’s just get Gradkowski back in there.

    As with him we’ll wlk in there and dminate the Steelers, come one man we were very lucky to beat them last year. If not for a few penalties we might have lost.

    How ’bout we give JC a chance thses next 3 games and see what he can do. Instead of expecting failure I just don’t get that.

  160. Try Some Reality Says:

    Whoever reads this, please follow the link in Post 157 and post a comment to that schmuck. He seems to think he’s funny.

  161. Try Some Reality Says:

    Priest – I don’t want Grads back in there. JC has done enough to at least deserve to continue to start. I’m just saying I don’t have confidence in our QB position to put the team on its shoulders. Not based on what I’ve seen. You want to crown the guy, be my guest.

    I do hope he continues to improve and works on timing with the receivers.

  162. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,you know I have never said I expect him to fail.I just don’t have faith that when we need him to step up he will.I don’t point to single plays because for every pass a WR dropped,there are passes where the WRs were open and he missed them.It happens to every QB that has ever played the game.At this point in time I don’t have a lot of confidence in him,but I don’t expect him to fail-I just don’t know one way or the other.

  163. Try Some Reality Says:

    Have a good night, fellas. Go RAIDERS!!!

  164. priesttj Says:

    TSR If you knew me I would take a trained monkey at QB if he could get the silver and black a win. I’m so desparate to get a win who’s at QB is coincidental to me. I like Grads better than I like JC at this point. However I see severe weaknesses in both their games.

    My only premise if you press me for one is I think in the longterm the Raiders would be better if JC is playing good football with Grads as his backup. I say that because of the threat of the deep ball and his size and strength to get the ball downfield. Physicaly speaking he brings more to the table. But as a leader and competitor based on what I’ve seen so far I’d take Grads in a heartbeat. I’m hoping we can sign him to a longterm contract until that position is adequately filled. For this offense JC ’s skillset is a better fit that’s my honest feelings. I wish Gradkowski was 6′3″ 220 with a little stronger arm and I’d show Campbell the door………….period

  165. lefty12 Says:

    TSR,he looks like some young guy fresh out of school trying to make a name for himself.I think I’d rather ignore him than give him the satisfaction of commenting on his garbage.But thanks for the link-now I know to avoid the guy.

  166. Try Some Reality Says:

    “TSR If you knew me I would take a trained monkey at QB if he could get the silver and black a win.” – LOL, I like this comment. So true.

    Priest – I couldn’t agree more with your last post. Well put. Hopefully we can all come back in here tomorrow night and talk about how well this team did and about JC’s continued improvement.

    GO RAIDERS!!! Have a good night, fellas!

  167. lefty12 Says:

    Nite TSR.I guess I’m out of here too.Later Priest.

  168. priesttj Says:

    Adios Left TSR!

  169. Plunketthead Says:

    Only 8 hours till gametime.
    Where is everyone?

  170. Dirtiest Raccoon Says:

    I am up!! the early bird gets the worm.

  171. Dirtiest Raccoon Says:

    **********Wow the way Mike Mitchell knocked the sh!t out of Hines Ward all ya can say is… NO VASELINE **

    Rolando McClain hamered Big BEnny to the ground…with NO VASELINE ***

  172. RaiderRockstar Says:

    AIG,

    Chad Pennington & DeAngelo Williams have both been placed on IR.

    You might consider Derek Anderson & Correll Buckhalter as healthy replacements …

    Also, I’m willing to bet Gates doesn’t play on Monday night. If you don’t feel good about Daniel Fells, Joel Dreessen is available in FA :)

    Just FYI. Best of luck this week!

  173. Plunketthead Says:

    RR
    Congrats and a prayer for a hedge of Angels for protection.

  174. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LEADERSHIP COUNCIL

    Following the morning walkthrough, a dozen players remained on the field in discussion with coach Tom Cable.

    Sticking around with the coach were quarterback Jason Campbell, punter Shane Lechler, running back Darren McFadden, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, safety Michael Huff, running back/special teams player Rock Cartwright, running back Michael Bush, strong safety Tyvon Branch, left guard Robert Gallery, defensive end Trevor Scott and Seymour.

    ***

    I thought for sure Bruce Gradkowski, Nick Miller, Sam Williams or Hiram Eugene would have cracked Cable’s Top 12 list !?!?

  175. RaiderRockstar Says:

    but honestly, Rolando McClain should be on there instead of Trevor Scott …

  176. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Congrats and a prayer for a hedge of Angels for protection

    ***

    thanks Plunk!

    I’m holding the sleeping little fella right now and typing with 1 arm :)

  177. RaiderRockstar Says:

    only a few ways we lose the game today …

    1. turnovers
    2. stupid penalties
    3. Seabass missed FG

    I’m not worried. As stated on Monday, Raiders 28 R@pists 10

  178. RaiderRockstar Says:

    watching my first Raider game as a father today.

    I’ll be holding the baby, probably trying not to scream my head off after Ben gets sacked for the sixth time

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    check in with YOU PEOPLE tomorrow (from work)

    enjoy the day, the Raiders 4th straight win!

  180. joetoronto Says:

    priesttj:

    Please stop butchering our great history.

    Some of us actually remember it.

    Thanks in advance.

  181. Plunketthead Says:

    I was missing in action all week.
    I only worked one job and I spent all my spare time studying everything I could about the Peelers and the RAIDERS.
    I looked at the game in every way possible, I even ran computer simulations.
    The result
    We kick arse in every possible situation
    DMAC/Bush/Reece run for 175 yards.
    Jason/ will pass for 300
    DHB = 100 plus yards

    RAIDERS 41 Spitburgh neanderthals 17

  182. ELWAYs TEETH Says:

    We came, We saw, We Kicked their Asses! 5 hours ’til kickoff Baby………

  183. aig-raiders Says:

    RRS,

    Congrats bro. I’ve been wondering wtf you been on this blog. I’ll make those changes on ffl. Fatherhood is a wonderful thing and I am sure you will brainwash your kid like I have been with mine about the Raiduhs!!!

  184. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I predict Murphy is going to have a big game coming back and Reece and DMac are going to be catching passes out tthe backfield all day. Don’t be surprise if DMac goes wide and takes a slant to the house.

  185. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RaiderRockstar congrats my friend! Fatherhood is and will be the most rewarding job I will ever have in my life time!

    Enjoy the moments and sleep when they sleep.

    : )

  186. aig-raiders Says:

    Today is going to be a dog fight. Never underestimate the power of a motivated Steelers team looking for revenge and trying to prove to everyone that they will not start another tailspin like last year. You guys that predicted a blowout by the Raiders…I hope you are right.

    Nothing better than to get a W today after 2 weeks of wait but I dont have a good feeling on this one.

  187. Sixburgh Says:

    Pittsburgh 24 Cleveland West 10

  188. raidermarty Says:

    Well pittsburgh is a solid veteran well coached team playing at home while we are up and coming hot and hungry! A total test of wills so it should be an awesome game.
    RAIDERS 20 steelers 13
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  189. Steeler Fan Says:

    Let’s take a good look at the Raiders. Al Davis resembles a mad scientist. I was told he was the model used for the “Crypt Keeper”. Jamarcus Russell was a wonderful draft pick ha ha ha. Tom Cable is a fat fool with no class.

    The only redeeming quality the Raiders ever had was HOF George Blanda……oh yes, he was a Pittsburgh native. Youngwood, Pa.

    Good luck today, you will need it. The Steelers are going to come out fire in their eyes. You beat them last year but you had better buckle your chin straps and don’t forget your joc straps today. Steelers 28 Raiders 14 7-2 here we come!

  190. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Let’s go Nation!!!! Talk about hyped!!! About to go run a couple miles with the dog; fix a good breakfast; and watch this smacking! McClain is gonna make a name for himself around the league today – I can feel it.

    Congrats Rockstar – Best wishes for your little one!

    1 Nation, A Million Bleeders, Let’s Get it

  191. RaidingTexas Says:

    Man, I’m pumped!!! Only about 3 hours away.

  192. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Steeler Fan – The fact that you took the time to register with our site here to post that nonsense is proof alone about how worried you are for today’s game….and don’t worry, we’ll make sure those worries are well warranted. Just be sure to come back after we tap that ass and apologize!

  193. J Hill Says:

    Defense, defense, and more defense!

    I hope we put Nnamdi on Ward all game.

  194. J Hill Says:

    Cmon Hue!

    Don’t get cute, just understand what they are giving you and take it!

  195. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing that Wildcat a couple times, but I hear ya J Hill; no McFadden halfback passes. If a back is gonna throw, let the former high school star QB Bush chuck it downfield and not McFadden trying to squeeze a duck into triple coverage to DHB of all people…

  196. aig-raiders Says:

    def no more half back passes. Let Bush pass it if anything. That was horrible with that DMAC pass last game.

  197. J Hill Says:

    I don’t like the wildcat or any gimmic stuff against a defense like Pittsburgh. I could be wrong, but I think that stuff is for teams that don’t have a QB.

    I’d be much more interested in a 2nd tight end or Jacoby Ford in the slot instead of McFadden taking the snap.

    Now I do like that option play they run with Campbell at QB. He’s handed it off to Reece on a dive, and pitched it to DMac a couple of times, but I agree with JFB that they are going to have to throw out of that formation to really make it effective.

  198. Just Fire Baby Says:

    testing

  199. J Hill Says:

    AIG,

    You watching NFL Network?

    Did you just hear LaCanfora talking about your boy Campbell?

    You know they go way back and dude knows Campbell’s family and all.

  200. Just Fire Baby Says:

    WTF??

    You can’t say $hannigans?

    Anyways, Hue is kind of a once or twice a game gimmicky type of OC.

    Reverses, wildcat, pistol, flea-flickers.

    They have been fairly effective of late

  201. J Hill Says:

    1

    2

  202. J Hill Says:

    Reverses, wildcat, pistol, flea-flickers.

    ——————————————————

    I wouldn’t call a reverse or the pistol gimmic plays.

    A flea flicker is about as gimmicky as I can stand, lol.

  203. J Hill Says:

    Tom Cable interview coming up on NFLN

  204. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tom Cable interview coming up on NFLN

    *************************************

    What are the odds he has on anything other than his go-to bowling shirt?

  205. J Hill Says:

    Too cold for the bowling shirt mayne.

  206. MikieG Says:

    Hey Sqeeler Fan, you wanna talk about our Coach having no class? Ask your boy big Ben if he has raped anyone this week!
    Heinz Ketchup is getting knocked the f*** out today, and Ben is going to be used as a climbing wall by our defensive line…
    There is a group of Steeler fans that roll around my town watching the games together like a big gang of goons. Im donning my gear and sitting right in the middle of them today. Anyone feels like getting bodyslammed, open your filthy sewer to me during this game and I will happily oblige.

  207. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Big Ben is like a prize fighter, sometimes he gets a little better after being knocked around.

    He gets a little punchy, and that’s when he is at his best.

    STopping Ben is not something many people have had much success with.

    Stop the runing game, score some points and win the ST game is the key today. Ben will do his sandlot thing.

  208. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Wildcat isn’t a bad option on short distance situations. I’d rather do a McFadden draw out the wildcat on 3rd and 1 than that FB dive we LOVE calling….

  209. The Real Ray Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
    I woke up this morning feeling a lil GEEKED!

  210. aig-raiders Says:

    Hill,

    Not watching NFL network and I make it a point to disregard national writers. You, me, the bloggers on here and Jerry know more about the Raiders than any national writer. Think about it. We live and breathe Raiders 365. National writers have to cover 32 teams and they usually rely on the local writers for the latest info. when I want to know about the other 31 teams, I go to PfT. When I want to know about the Raiders, I go here or local writers.

  211. aig-raiders Says:

    JFB,

    Dude. I wish you didnt give away your Jamarcus Jersey. I assume it was one of those authentic procut ones right? I found a company that used to contract with the nfl to make all the jersey numbers and letters. You could have modified that #2 Jersey into a 92….hahaha

  212. Just Fire Baby Says:

    On the menu this morning from the wife….

    Pancakes, green chile eggs, and some blackstreet bumping.

    Odd way to get pumped up but it is working. And going real old-school with two gas station 40’s.

  213. Just Fire Baby Says:

    AIG,

    Yup, the wife bought the authentic one for me for the B-day (was between the Jamarcus, a Lincecum or a STeph Curry jersey, lol). Can’t win them all I guess.

    504 Raider got it, not sure what he has done with it.

  214. J Hill Says:

    Cable went shirt and tie, lol!

  215. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I’m so pissed that the Houston/Jets game is being broadcast. CBS has it’s head up it’s ass.

  216. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Yea he did…surprised me too! He probably took that suit off the second he was away from the NFL Netwk cameras…lol

    Sapp is slowly being made a believer. He didn’t give us any praise, but he didn’t knock us as he usually does. What a stubborn jerk….he needs to get over his bad days in Oakland and realize he’s an analyst now and something special is brewing in Oakland with our youth movement…

  217. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    That sucks, where you at A.B.? I’m in SoCal and we got the Raider game coming on locally

  218. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I’m in Chicago, which still makes no sense. Nobody here gives a crap about the Jets or Texans.

  219. raidermarty Says:

    Sapp and his back-handed compliments…..hhhmmmmpppphhh….

  220. djohnnyg Says:

    Sapp: Raiders are for real, but tuff schedule won’t win division.

    I won’t be emotionally upset if we lose ONLY IF we lose becuz Jano misses a chip shot at the end to do it.

  221. djohnnyg Says:

    218.A.B. Paine III Says:
    November 21st, 2010 at 7:58 am
    I’m in Chicago, which still makes no sense. Nobody here gives a crap about the Jets or Texans.

    I’m with ya Bro. Ridiculous.

  222. 90806RAIDER77 Says:

    Really sorry I bought a 99 jersey.
    It is on the end by the 18 jersey.
    Right next to the jersey that had 2 on it.

  223. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I had a Sapp jersey as well, as well as a Jeff George.

    My new #55 is going to turn the tide (pun intended) of God-Awful jersey purchases.

  224. 90806RAIDER77 Says:

    I do have 3 current jerseys 20, 21, and 76.
    The rest are greats from the past.

  225. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 21st, 2010 at 8:02 am
    I had a Sapp jersey as well, as well as a Jeff George.

    My new #55 is going to turn the tide (pun intended) of God-Awful jersey purchases.
    ———————————
    Why on Earth did you ever buy a Jeff George jersey? Were you high?

  226. 90806RAIDER77 Says:

    I don’t know which one to wear to the Charger game.
    Dec 5, 45 yard line, Plaza.
    Who else will be there?

  227. raidermarty Says:

    Nice 908 RAIDER…..
    Unfortunately I have a Burgess, Russell, and a Moss.
    Needless to say these jerseys are buried in the closet

  228. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hmmmm… Larry Fitzgerald wants out of Arizona…

  229. rodsdays Says:

    GAMEDAY baby!!!

  230. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    raidermarty Says:
    November 21st, 2010 at 8:16 am
    Nice 908 RAIDER…..
    Unfortunately I have a Burgess, Russell, and a Moss.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    At least you decided to pass on the Schweigert replica…

  231. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why on Earth did you ever buy a Jeff George jersey? Were you high?

    *****************************

    I was never not high during those days, but I liked George and the rocket arm, before I realized he was a colossal turd.

  232. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I have a Ronnie Lott Raiders jersey. Haven’t bought one since the early 90s.

  233. Raider75 Says:

    Raiders/Steelers in early game
    Colts/Patriots in late game

    Good football day.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!

  234. BigTed707 Says:

    Go Raiders!
    Cut It Loose!

  235. Roch R Says:

    As always …. GO RAIDERS!

    This is the game, that we define ourselves. This is the game we punch out ticket to the playoffs.

  236. aig-raiders Says:

    JFB,

    The next time you want to get rid of a jersey, dont do it. I’ll help you modify it. For $26, you can swap it with another game issued authentic set of numbers and names.

    If any of you guys like Lamar Houston, then get a Sapp authentic Jersey for half the price and just swap out the name plate. I got me a Lamont Jordan 34 authentic pro cut for $40. Just took his name off and put Mitchell on there. Authentic jerseys are so much better than the premier ones.

  237. M Lonetree Says:

    HueJack v LeBeau. Match-up of the week depending upon execution…aside from the Zebra tendencies to flag the Raiders early and often putting them in long yardage situations…who would have guessed that millions of years of equine evolution that went into the Zebra genetic code would have them hating Raiders but liking gold-panners, steel workers and meat packers (liking colts and donkeys is understandible from a Zebra perspective) et al.

  238. MikieG Says:

    D@MIT! Nnamdi is out Fellas…CJ better step the heII up!

  239. morilla Says:

    I was looking at getting a new one for the SD game. It’s either Gallery, McClain, Veldheer or Seymour.

    Or I might just stick to Long, Alzado or Otto.

  240. 90806RAIDER77 Says:

    Thanks for the tip AIG.
    I mona do both of those.

  241. aig-raiders Says:

    Mitchell and Ness just restocked with all the Raider Throwback. Expensive though $250. Yikes.

  242. 90806RAIDER77 Says:

    One hour until the NATION shows the world they are back.

  243. raidermarty Says:

    Oh great RAIDER hater fouts calling the game…..
    would love to hear him choke on his RAIDER hate!
    GO RAIDERS!!!!

  244. JakeGolden Says:

    Steve Young the fool said this about Roethlisberger:

    “To me, he’s a great improvisational quarterback and not a great quarterback because he doesn’t do it within the structure of the play called in the huddle.

    “He’s proved me wrong with winning Super Bowls, but a lot of that is his defense getting the ball back a ton. But you talk about playing in the system within the confines of what you just called in the huddle, his production is average.
    —————————————————

    Well gee, Steve, I didn’t see Roethlisberger making too many pass plays “improvising” — he torched the Raiders standing in the pocket just fine.

    Steve Young is either clueless or jealous of Ben, who’s earned more rings in just 6 years than Steve had his whole career. And please, when it came to running around and scrambling, nobody was more “improvisational” than Steve Young.

    As for Ben’s defense getting the ball back for him, yeah that’s why he had to bail them out when they almost blew Super Bowl XLVIII. With the kind of championship winning drive Steve can only dream about doing.

    As for “average production” Cold Hard Football facts put out an article showing Ben was one of the most productive QBs in HISTORY. (You can look it up.)

    Steve Young: both clueless and jealous.

  245. JakeGolden Says:

    Attention Steve the Moron Young — read this from Cold, Hard Football Facts and see why you’re not fit to carry Big Ben’s jock:

    “Quarterbacks with a high average per pass attempt almost always win, regardless of how often they pass. And Roethlisberger is a perfect example of the importance of effectiveness over volume. He’s actually one of the most prolific passers in NFL history if you look at the right numbers.

    Big Ben averages an incredible 8.02 yards per pass attempt, the fifth highest mark in the history of football. If you want to know why the Steelers instantly became title contenders the day Roethlisberger became the starter, if you want to know why he’s already won two Super Bowls, look at that number.

    Sure, he’s been blessed with a consistently strong defense and a team committed to the run. But those two factors don’t win consistently if you can’t exploit the opposition with a highly effective passing game. Just ask Green Bay Hall of Famer Bart Starr, the only quarterback with five championship rings. His career average of 7.85 YPA was the best of any quarterback in the 1960s. Or ask Cleveland Hall of Famer Otto Graham. He led the Browns to six straight championship games in each of his six NFL seasons, an unprecedented streak of success. His average of 8.62 YPA as an NFL passer is also unprecedented, the highest, the most effective mark of all time.

    Roethlisberger went 26-4 in his first 30 games as a starter, a period during which he averaged an amazing 8.89 yards per pass attempt — an incredible number. The wins were a direct result of his historic but misunderstood productivity.

    He’s in true Big Ben form here 2010, too, even after his four-game suspension early in the year. Roethlisberger has averaged an impressive 8.41 YPA and he’s won three of his four starts.

    Bottom line: passing effectiveness, not passing volume, is what wins games in the NFL. Big Ben is the best contemporary example of this law of football success.”

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