Raiders live chat here Tuesday at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, November 22nd, 2010 at 6:10 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Jerry McDonald will be answering your Raiders question during a live chat on Tuesday, Nov. 23 at noon PST, as he takes a look back at Sunday’s loss in Pittsburgh and a look ahead to this Sunday’s game against Miami.
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November 22nd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Jerry I’m going to pass, ok?
November 22nd, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Dick Labeau is a tough cookie to plan for. Polamahu lines up wherever he wants to. They’re tough to block.
Of course he could never coach here.
November 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
I think Hue/Al were too intimidated by all the different Pittsburgh fronts, to cut the playbook loose.
November 22nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Raiders are getting better. Just not ready to compete with top teams yet.
Where we are is a lot better than where were a year ago.
7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 looks a lot better than 4-12 or 5-11.
GO RAIDERS!!!!
November 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Romac needs some private tutoring from Seymour. #92 will get his head and attitude straight.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_2
Offensive Coordinator Hue Jackson went ultra conservative against the Steelers which played to their strength, allowing them to simply line up, play smash mouth and dominate the Raiders.
Gone were the reverses, flea flickers and Wild Hog formations. In Jackson’s defense the Raiders had stated before the game field position would dictate wether some of these plays and or formations would be called.
Oakland got beat by the Steelers but its conservative, smash mouth game plan played a part.
They’ll need to return to mixing it up against Miami.
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This is why we got blown out fellas…Bland, predictable, terrible play calling on both sides of the ball. Just like in the SF game. Ben Rapistberger had all day to throw because we generated little or no pressure.
This one’s on Jackson and Marshall fellas.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Pittsburgh was more creative on Offense and Defense then we were, bottom line.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Pittsburg is a pretty well established team. They could probably go through the next preseason without any changes and still be good for the next few years.
Raiders are not quite there yet.
Remember this preseason when we were all hoping for an 8-8 season? Then it turned into 9-7 then playoffs then super bowl?
Everything will be fine when the Raiders make the necessary changes….You all know what those changes are.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Broncos suck
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Uh! what else is new?
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
#6 is correct.
When I saw in the first quarter that we weren’t going to blitz, I turned the game off.
I knew we were going to lose.
Vanilla doesn’t work in the NFL.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm
What people fail to realize is that to a certain extent the poor quality of our offensive line limited what we could call on offense. There were hot reads and other times we ran max protections, but both were destroyed by the steeler pressure.
The qbs did not play well, however the biggest issue was the blocking. there were steelers running free through the backfield before our qbs could finish their drops, even short drops.
Dmac instead of the usual make one man miss in the back field was being gang tackled in the back field.
This game wasnt about our two qbs, it was the fact the pitt front seven manhandled our o-line at every snap. This game was about our two best defensive players being out and not being able to stop pitt form scoring, meaning we had to abandon our run game. pitt pinned their ears back and swarmed like sharks with blood in the water.
If you honestly look at it we havent had good o-line play except the denver game. even seattle and kc, our o-line was shaky at best, with pass protection breakdowns and penalties. this is one reason why the first halfs of these games were brutal.
We have won in spite of our o-line thanks to herculean efforts by our defense, and timely performances from several contributors. One week its dmac, another its campbell and dhb, or ford.
lets keep this in perspective. Our o-line is the weakest link on this team and the receivers are next on the list. this is no surprise every one in the league saw we couldnt pass protect in preseason. Every team has brought the heat against us, some just werent good enough to get there. Our play makers also have offset some of the rush against weaker foes.
If cable wins less than 7 games im sure he will be gone. the o-line is the biggest reason.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Damn
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Pittsburgh was more creative on Offense and Defense then we were, bottom line.
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we had to play vanilla on defense, we had so many young and inexperienced players playing a huge number of snaps yesterday.
We had to be conservative on offense because we cant pass protect, and we couldnt run block yesterday either.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I would love to use Jacoby Ford the same way SD uses Sproles. Run screens sprint draws and use him essentially the same way even as a runner.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Thanks for nothing Donkeys!!!!
We’ll have to do this the old fashion way by beating SD again to get the division.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
The best teams in this league have good offensive and defensive lines. Our defense is good enough to beat anyone, as long as we are healthy. The o-line is a different story. this continues to be the 900 pound gorilla in the room, and its making a monkey out of tom cable and the r5aiders offense, especially against quality pass rush teams, but even against lesser opponents like houston and arizona.
This is why our qbs have been abused all year.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
How did we beat San diego??????
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Defense ST’s and solid offense.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
can the raiders get vy next year, he is done in tenn. and in the last year of his deal, 12 mil for one year. i wonder what the titans will ask in exchange since in sure they want value but at the same time everyone knows they need to move young this offseason.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 pm
The defense is good enough right now to win and played a good game against Pittsburgh.
There were a couple of long passes on 3rd down that led to two scores…but overall the defense got it done.
The offense was turning the ball over and not moving the ball at all. The turnovers and no passing game lead to the loss.
The Raiders will be facing similiar pressure here on out. Expect more 8 and 9 man fronts and a dare to pass. Raiders will be facing more of this going forward….the NFL is a copycat league…so the passing offense is on notice.
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
21. SnB Production Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 pm
The defense is good enough right now to win and played a good game against Pittsburgh.
There were a couple of long passes on 3rd down that led to two scores…but overall the defense got it done.
The offense was turning the ball over and not moving the ball at all. The turnovers and no passing game lead to the loss.
The Raiders will be facing similiar pressure here on out. Expect more 8 and 9 man fronts and a dare to pass. Raiders will be facing more of this going forward….the NFL is a copycat league…so the passing offense is on notice.
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Passing game was victimized by a leaky pass protection and failure to run block. The defense was on the field too long and without our defensive leaders couldnt stop pitt. remember they had 21 points midway through the 3rd quarter.
every team has been blitzing us and stacking the box to stop the run. Every team isnt as good at run defense or blitzing as pitt. Only the indy, and san diego games have the potential to get that ugly, because of our deficiencies on the o-line. i doubt either will be that ugly as we will have our full complement of defensive players(minus scott) on board, the defense will keep the scores closer.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Poor QB was defenseless what about all the college girls “big ben” has assaulted. Best 25 K Seymour’s ever spent.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Raiders better fix the offensive issues before that San Diego game
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
SnB I hope they do show more 8 and 9 man fronts these guy’s will learn how to compete from this game. We were way too hesitant and non-competitive I dubt you see that again. Our speed was not on display at all. But I woud love to play the Steelers again and let them try those tactics. Especially if we have Chaz and DHB in the mix.
That was Fords first rodeo they can teach from that film and I know Murphy will be a lt different next time. I just think it was a matter of him not playing for a while.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
LMFAO!
Mis giving his boy soup a pass, and throwing the o-line under the bus.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Wait is this vy’s last contract year? So he will simply not be resigned by the titans?
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Mistic,
I feel what you are saying. Let’s see them bounce back. Thought that stuff was out of their system after the 49er debacle.
This can either be another developmental year…or a division title year…..its up to a handful of players and Hue
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Priesttj,
Perhaps you are right. But if Cable is living by this “Cut it Loose” philosophy…we should see that instead of the crawl under the bed offense we saw yesterday.
Playcalling was conservative, QBs were tentative and receivers played with little urgency…o-line mailed it in after the 1st drive…
If its cut it loose…then do so. That whole offensive gameplan was about trying not to make mistakes
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
LMFAO!
Mis giving his boy soup a pass, and throwing the o-line under the bus.
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What pass? the qb’s didnt play well.
i have been all over the o-line since the preseason, we have found ways to win in spite of their efforts.
No qb would have been successful under that kind of onslaught.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
JC kept flashing “helmet to helmet” and remembering the golf cart ride he got in Oakland in the back of his mind, after the first blitz came free. The rest was inevitable.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Mistic,
I feel what you are saying. Let’s see them bounce back. Thought that stuff was out of their system after the 49er debacle.
This can either be another developmental year…or a division title year…..its up to a handful of players and Hue
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i woud be more than surprised if they dont play well next week. They have shown unlike the past that they care, and they will beat teams that we are better than.
miami should not beat us with an o-line that is on par with our own, and a 3rd string qb.
A loss would be unthinkable and inexcusable.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
I have seen QB’s control the onslaught. They need to at the least be able to comprehend an audible at the line.
Poor receiving on hots, dropped balls, O-line play, and ineffectual qb play. The entire O from Hue all the way down took a siesta yesterday.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Krikey! I even saw the Beast Wimbley get bent over backwards making a tackle yesterday, the entire Oakland organization took a siesta.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pm
mistic1 Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Pittsburgh was more creative on Offense and Defense then we were, bottom line.
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we had to play vanilla on defense, we had so many young and inexperienced players playing a huge number of snaps yesterday.
We had to be conservative on offense because we cant pass protect, and we couldnt run block yesterday either.
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I would tend to disagree. Using Jackson’s rotational scheme and injuries we always have a lot of young guys in.
Its a young team.
18 of our 53 are in their 1st or 2nd yr.
Those same guys played well enough to win in weeks prior running all manner of trick plays.
Oakland set its mind they were going to bully the Steelers and that didn’t happen.
They didn’t adjust.
No matter what Cable says Campbell stayed in waaay too long.
No one was blocking on special teams and max protect packages failed.
They shouldn’t have been a staple because exploiting Pittsburgh’s secondary os how teams have success.
You flood the field and zip to the hot read QUICK.
Grads was picked and it was a stupid throw but he took the Steelers apart on his opening drive.
The Raiders played to lose after the Steelers scored quickly off of Grads mistake.
I can see Marshall’s reason for convservative D.
Its well established that Ben can burn you when you blitz but I think at some point Oakland should’ve “Cut it Loose” as it were on BOTH sides of the ball.
Seems like they folded shop and began looking at the rest of the season somewhere in the 3rd.
Crank it up Oakland. They had success when they ran what our guys ran in college so OPEN IT UP!
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Good thing siestas are a temporary thing.
You kNow it!
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Oakland should’ve “Cut it Loose” as it were on BOTH sides of the ball.
Seems like they folded shop and began looking at the rest of the season somewhere in the 3rd.
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Took a siesta?
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 pm
It’s amazing to me how the Raider Nation before the game was convinced the Raiders would beat the Steelers. With just a few wins, the nation forgot just how bad the Raiders are and began again (and again, and again…) with their pontifications of wins.
Nothing is going to change until Davis is gone. Nothing…
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Are you falling off the wagon?
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I’d like to pull Davis and company off!
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Don’t fret, after the Raiders destroy Miami the wagon will comeback around.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I’m all for us geting V Young next year since he is next best thing to Vick.
But if we seriously upgrade our O-Line then I would rather we make a play for Kolb.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Cable: Well, certainly, I think Richard would be the first to tell you he probably made a bad decision, but I think as you become a tougher mentality and you become a team trying to enforce your will on each other, which is what those two teams did yesterday….
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So true. The Squealers were Rotheisberger. We were the bichh in the bathroom stall.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
No way we should take VY.
The guy can’t pass the ball! He’s terrible!
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
504-is that a joke or what?You’re all for getting VY-you can’t be serious.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I’d rather have Fisher than VY!
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Vanilla doesn’t win in the NFL.
Blitzing and misdirection does.
And quarterbacks should run. It’s better than leting them stand back there and get killed.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Raiders live chat here Tuesday at noon
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# KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Jerry I’m going to pass, ok?
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heh,heh,heh. Possibly Koolkells best post ever.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Campbell picked the Steelers apart as well his opening drive and they actually scored. If the WR he threw to in the endzone actually faught for the ball instead of running out of bounds we would’ve had a TD.
Campbell goy very little help from his rec’s early in the game Ford made a nice catch but Murphy and JLH played way too soft. Had they just been competitive we might have scored 10 points and that is a very different game even if they score but Murphy played like a sissy and fumbled on top of it. We were moving the ball but for the drops and bad routes and that fumble.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
No to Vince Young. the guy doesn’t even like football.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Man too bad we can’t get Rivers the same way Al got the franchise from that dude who had the majority ownership of the Raiders before he went to the Olympics.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Like a lot of modern day young players…they love the lifestyle and people kissin their backside…but they don’t like the game.
They don’t like the work you have to put in…and don’t like to lead.
They like to party! That’s it.
Been there and done that with the Raiders…remember JaDavis
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Vince Young can’t wait to relax at home…JaDavis is equally happy relaxing and partying without a care in the world.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
# Kirk Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Vanilla doesn’t win in the NFL.
Blitzing and misdirection does.
And quarterbacks should run. It’s better than leting them stand back there and get killed.
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Last time I looked, Brady, Peyton and Rivers weren’t exactly busting huge runs down the sidelines. And all blitzing is, is gambling. You gamble you are going to get the Q before he gets the play off. Because if he gets the play off, you are going to PAY big time. Notice how teams don’t blitz the above mentioned Q’s.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Campbell picked the Steelers apart as well his opening drive and they actually scored. If the WR he threw to in the endzone actually faught for the ball instead of running out of bounds we would’ve had a TD.
Campbell goy very little help from his rec’s early in the game Ford made a nice catch but Murphy and JLH played way too soft. Had they just been competitive we might have scored 10 points and that is a very different game even if they score but Murphy played like a sissy and fumbled on top of it. We were moving the ball but for the drops and bad routes and that fumble.
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No….JLH played the best out of any damn WR out there yesterday…BHP you are way off when it comes to him. Murphy is the soft one
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:46 pm
The Oakland Raiders aint exactly QB University, either.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
# Drexl Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Are you falling off the wagon?
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No way!…..11-5 will be our record….we will win the next 6 games….book it
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
OK Bauce how am I wrong about JLH? if I am I’ll admit it.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Seymour Bush Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Notice how teams don’t blitz the above mentioned Q’s.
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Exactly, notice they didn’t bother going after Brady that way last week, zero sacks.
I hope they weren’t thinking they wouldn’t come after Campbell.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Vince Young is better than what we have now. If we had him we would avg 200 yds passing and 200 yds rushing.
Our WRs suck and can’t get open. Part of that is our O-Line doesn’t give QB time to allow receivers to get open.
Insert Young and he has the feet to evade the rush and buy time for WRs to get open and he can get the ball there. He will not easily accept getting sacked when the pass rush come barreling towards him.
Plus if it weren’t for VY we would be 6-4 right now. V Young likes football. He doesn’t like Fisher.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
BTW, we need some enterprising young photographer to get a photo of Josh McDaniels standing next to Wade Phillips and Brad Childress in the unemployment line.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
OK Bauce how am I wrong about JLH? if I am I’ll admit it.
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Come on Priest, if it wasn’t for Chokie Lee and his league leading 10 receptions all year, we would, well, we would, well…..uh…
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:56 pm
You know, I’d rather have 15 Sam Williams than 1 Chokie Lee Higgins.
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Sorry, silly me. chokie Lee Higgins=10 receptions and NO TOUCHDOWNS! All year. That’s what I meant. And he lost his return jobs. Dude is awesome!!
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 pm
I should invite Chokie Lee to our annual Thanksgiving Day “Flag” football game. I bet I could defend Chokie and hold him to one reception or less.
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:13 pm
new post
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
Im finally in!!! Hi to all. I want to start my first post by saying this: WE SHOULD OF PICKED UP BOLDIN, T.O., OCHOCINCO, OR T.J. WHOSYADADDY. THE OFFENSE WOULD BE A HELLUVA LOT BETTER WITH ANY OF THE AFORMENTIONED. But thats old news. I aggree with all that say we should pick up VY next season. He’d be an upgrade from the crap we have now @ that position. But we still need recievers to catch the ball.
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 am
A lot of teams wished they had taken TO,
we should have gone after Boldin though
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 am
With T.O., you would get a guy who was broken in by the best, Jerry Rice. Do any of you think that some of that work ethic would rub off on these cats we call recievers right now?
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:43 am
Even Housmenzada, if i spelled it right, would have satisfyed me. Sure hes not a game changer, but he’s gona catch 80-85% of the balls thrown his way.
November 23rd, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Man I want Chucky back w/ complete control over the O. Calls and personel. This was all about the coaching, not the players. Give me the Madden sticks and I’ll show these guys how to run this team. Run the same freakin D play in and play out when it is not working and expecting a different result is plain stupid. You can play man, cover every option including the FB, and still rush 6. To bad about trevor he’s a great DE to zone on zone blitz. Play calling beats better players everytime. And yes start BRUUUUUCE!!!!
December 11th, 2010 at 6:39 am
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