Raiders start process of recovery
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders began the process of putting a 35-3 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers in perspective Monday, a day after their hopes of validating their status as a re-emerging power crumbled against a superior opponent in a hostile venue.
Being that the loss came after three straight wins, the general feeling is that it won’t have the same effect as a one-sided loss would have had in past years.
“It’s not about, `we’ve got to figure out how we can win,’ ‘’ fullback Marcel Reece said. “It’s not that type of issue. We know we can win. We know we can win against good teams. We know it’s about going back and doing it.’’
“That’s football,’’ said cornerback Stanford Routt with a shrug. “Yeah, it was pretty ugly. Offense, defense, special teams. . . but we’ve got Miami this week, plain and simple.’’
Reserve running back and core special teams player Rock Cartwright said coach Tom Cable’s postgame message was simple and direct.
“That wasn’t us. We didn’t play the way we normally play,’’ Cartwright said. “Take it in stride, put it behind us, and go forward with the next game because you can’t beat a dead horse. We’ll go and watch the tape, go forward and get ready for Miami this week.’’
More news, notes and quotes from Monday’s open locker room session:
—There was no sign of Richard Seymour in the Raiders’ locker room Monday. Seymour was ejected with 1:23 to go in the half for an open-handed punch in the face of Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.
Seymour, who was fined $7,500 last year for pulling the hair of Denver tackle Ryan Clady and another $10,000 for hitting a Cleveland player after the whistle last season, will almost certainly be fined again and could face suspension. He told reporters he was sorry for letting his team down following the game.
Linebacker Quentin Groves thought Roethlisberger to be an unfortunate victim in an ongoing tussle between Seymour and Pittsburgh guard Chris Kemoeatu.
“As I saw the replay, I see what happened. The thing was, all the offensive linemen, as well as some of us, were getting chippy because they were chipping after the whistle,’’ Groves said. “And then Richard, as Ben goes and tries and break the fight up, Richard reacts. That’s just a reaction that a fighter has, and that’s what he is, a fighter. To react like that is just a basic combination.”
Roethlisberger made no mention of attempting to be a peacemaker following the game.
Seymour’s ejection was only the most visible indiscretion in game full of pushing, shoving and flared tempers.
“We want to turn it into a street fight, but, you know. I don’t like the ejection. I’ll say that. That’s frustrating. They were doing stuff to us, they just caught the one act that we do, and they want to throw a guy out. Which I think is huge,’’ safety Mike Mitchell said. “He’s one of our better players, a leader on our team. We want to turn everything into a street fight and we didn’t win it. So shame on us.’’
Speaking about the possibility of a suspension for Seymour, Groves said, “You get suspended for anything right now, but I don’t know. I’m going to let commissioner Goodell and the powers that be decide that. If he’s there he’s there, if he’s not we have to still get ready to go out and play Miami.”
— With coach Tom Cable reaffirming Campbell’s hold on the starting job following the game, Bruce Gradkowski will be ready if called upon against Miami.
“It doesn’t change my approach,’’ Gradkowski said. “It’s like an up and down roller coaster but you just have to keep grinding, keep going. Like I said, I felt great in the game yesterday. That’s what made me excited is that physically I feel good, I feel ready to go. That’s my number one thought. As long as I feel good I can’t worry about the rest. I’ll just keep working hard and be ready.
Gradkowski entered the game with the Raiders trailing 21-3 with 4:42 left in the third quarter and promptly drove them from their own 20 to the Pittsburgh 24 before being intercepted by Troy Polamalu, who returned it 48 yards.
Gradkowski took responsibility for the mistake, which came on a pass intended for Jacoby Ford.
“I saw a guy coming free and I kind of tried to just get the ball out of my hand and I never saw Polamalu,’’ Gradkowski said.
“I kind of thought it was just going to go into the ground right there. That sucker comes out of nowhere and takes it. He made a good play and I can’t do that. That was a key drive right there.
“ If we put a touchdown in the end zone, you know hey, who knows what would have happened. You just kind of have to learn from it.’’
— Running back Darren McFadden said the Raiders simply didn’t respond to the Steelers’ physical defense.
“They came out swinging and it seemed like we kind of balled up when they were swinging and we didn’t respond to the punch they through at us,’’ McFadden said.
— Mitchell wants the Raiders to keep the feeling of the loss inside as a reminder of how bad it feel as they prepare to face the Dolphins.
“We were so high and really believing we were going to win the game, and to get smacked like that, that hurts,’’ Mitchell said. “That’s very humbling. Hopefully everyone’s just motivated as I am and I’m sure they are. That’s the only thing you can do is go back to work and get ready to play Sunday.’’
More to come after Raiders coach Tom Cable meets with the media at 2 p.m. . . .
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November 22nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Onto the next one, guys. Play better next week and we’ll forgive you for losing to the Steelers.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Hopefully they bring in former Saints DE Bobby McCray if Trevor Scott has to go on IR.
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They already worked him out earlier in the year…be interesting to see what they do
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Yeah, exactly. They could use more depth at DE anyway since Richardson isn’t around anymore.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Most of them are saying the right things, I see. But do they believe it?
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I’m glad the Raiders haven’t thrown in the towel like many fans on here have. Are you no longer going to the games because of this loss? No chance for a sellout or a real home field advantage I’m guessing because of a bad loss after a 3 game losing streak.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Vontae Davis is a damn good cornerback.
So what will these receivers do to win 1-1 matchups against superior DB talent?
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
winning streak I meant
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Preparation TRUMPS emotional stuff.
Get prepared….and then play!
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
8th
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Hope Big Sey doesnt get suspended for the next game. Give him a huge fine, but dont suspend the guy.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I’m gonna guess they’ll find Seymour in the 75K-100K neighborhood, but no suspension. But they’ll also make it clear that a similar incident will mean multiple games, not just one.
But who knows? Goodell seems to throw darts to figure out punishment and fines
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
894.priesttj Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
SnB
Maybe I didn’t make myself clear our rec’s weren’t winning 1 on 1 battles for the QB to get it out of his hands. We didn’t compete at all outside of a few plays here or there. No consistency for him to drop back and let it go.
Pitt was setting him up for picks and they got one. We just didn’t compete yesterday……….period
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Expectations are really high for our #3, 4, and 5 WRs. The smurfs got smacked around yesterday, and Murphy once again made more mistakes than anyone on the field.
that fumble was HUGE !!!!!!
14-3 at the time with us on the move if he holds on to the ball. Instead Pitts goes down and scores a TD, and the game was basically over.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Inonewordraider,
There is zero chance the Miami game sells out. They had to pull out all the stops to get the KC game to sell out and that was against a division rival with the team on a win streak in what was advertised as the biggest game in 8 years.
Maybe the Denver game sells out if they run the table on Miami, San Diego and Jacksonville. But if not, I think it’ll be 7 of 8 home games blacked out
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:19 pm
SnB Production Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Preparation TRUMPS emotional stuff.
Get prepared….and then play!
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Snb, Its Allways hard to disagree with ya Bruh…
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Expectations are really high for our #3, 4, and 5 WRs.
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I have to do a recount…
Who is the 1 amd 2 WR’s?
DHB is 1, who is no 2?
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Trevor Scott injury is crucial.
Wonder if we move Groves to his spot, and let Goethel play WLB? They seem to be trying to get Goethel on the field.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
SnB
You have to use technigue to beat the jam and bump and run. You have to run precise routes and get to where the QB expects you to be. If you dn’t he cannot cut it lose. You guy’s want him to do all these things with guy’s who are learning. Ford is a rookie JLH runs lousy routes as you saw on the TD attempt. Murphy was inexcusable he just wasn’t assertive. We need Murphy to get his ass OPEN he’s the possesion guy.
This is why I say what I say about DHB he can get open against press coverage because he’s strong and physical it’s harder for them to knock him off his route. And if they miss the jam he’s gone. Also Chaz is the saem way when it comes to working the middle of the field his size and athleticism is HUGE. Also he works the sideline routes better than any of them. Ford has to use the threat of his speed right now he is not a good route runner. But if you don’t jam him he’ll kill you.
You need all types to have an effective passing game. Yesterday we had a bunch of fast guy’s and no route runners. So the Steelers just jammed them and got physical with them. And they punked out………..period
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
1. DHB
2. MURPHY
3. FORD
4. JLH
5. NMILLER
Am I missing someone????
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Am I missing someone????
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You’re missing Chaz Schil…HAHAHAHAHAH…sorry, tried to say it with a straight face.
No, you’re not missing anyone.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The minute Chaz comes back, he starting. And you know it mayne.
#1 Chaz
#2 DHB
#3 Ford
#4 JLH
#5 Murphy
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The minute Chaz comes back, he starting. And you know it mayne.
#1 Chaz
#2 DHB
#3 Ford
#4 JLH
#5 Murphy
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Never heard of Chaz…Now I do remeber we cut this guy a few year ago named charles schallens… that guy was awful, ran bad routes, not pyhsical, or toguh…Just another fast guy….
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Priesttj,
I am beginning to question how these receivers are being coaches. Many of the things you talked about, these guys, especially Murphy and JLH, should be able to do a better job with.
If these guys can’t deliver that, then the Raiders are in big trouble.
I have seen all of 1 game where a receiver said “I am going to take this game over” and that was J. Ford in KC.
Other than that it seems conditions have to be PERFECT for these guys to make plays.
We don’t have decades to get this right. The O-Line is shaky and the QB doesn’t have time to drop back 7 and survey the field…its gotta be three steps and out.
The receivers are either up to the challenge or this team will finish 5-11…..We can’t rely on DMAC rushing for 150 yards in order to win
Pittsburgh DOES NOT have all-world corners. In fact, Vontae Davis is better than any corner yesterday.
Receives gotta start helping out.
And QBs have to throw it to them anyway, they are on the damn field
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Chaz Schilens can’t help anybody in the tub. Just can’t.
The coaches should have had a better solution than waiting 14 weeks for Schilens.
Is he in shape? Can he cut on that leg?
I think he’s still hurt! I would just shut that kid down until camp. LAST CHANCE!
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
I have heard several guys including Raider O say we need to run sanjay outta town… Is it him or is it the guys????
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Hey, we were up 3-0 at one point!
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
DHB is the 2nd best WR on this team behind Chaz. Ford is a next on the list far ahead of JLH and Murphy.
I’d love to get a guy like Fitzgerald to match with our top 3 guys since we passed on Dez Bryant.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
SnB Production Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
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were you a football coach or a drill seargent?
however I do agree…Last chance for charles…
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:31 pm
…rumors of the return to greatness were greatness were greatly exaggerated.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
especially Murphy and JLH, should be able to do a better job with.
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The guys were 4th rd picks for a reason. They are performing like they should. Occasional contributions.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
# mistic1 Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Something interesting to chew on. vince young will more than likely be available next season. cam newton may declare early. Is there a chance Al makes a play for one of these guys?
I think vy is in the last year of his deal. i doubt they will cut him but will they take a trade with lower value because they just need to move him going into next year?
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
I still say Bruce gives us our best chance to win. Campbell is garbage. We have won despite of him, not because of him.
After this off season I thought Al had decided to stop letting his ego get in the way of us winning, however now Campbell is just JaWalrus part 2. Bench that bum until he proves he can be effective at moving the chains.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:29 pm
DHB is the 2nd best WR on this team behind Chaz. Ford is a next on the list far ahead of JLH and Murphy.
I’d love to get a guy like Fitzgerald to match with our top 3 guys since we passed on Dez Bryant.
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We should have been taking Dez this year had they not taking DHB the prior. the prior should have been trade out and stockpile the best linmen on both sides of the ball. this year should have been the year we drafted a skill player….Whom I detest now…
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:35 pm
DHB will be fine Thec. We clearly missed him yesterday. When was the last time someone played an 8 man front against us?
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
In truth, we should have just taken Nicks and not DHB, but oh well. I’m not a GM for a reason.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Chaz is the WR is question Thec. Dez would be on the field instead of Murphy and in place of Chaz.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
SnB
Man listen to me it’s not coaching it’s called execution Ford is a rookie I cannot emphasize that enough we don’t have a veteran group of rec’s we have 1st2nd 3rd year guy’s. That is asking a lot especially most of them weren’t rated that high to begin with. Murphy should be better than he is but not by much. JLH is the vet of the group and heis just not a disciplined route runner he’ll run a great route and then quit on the next one. He is the most frustrating guy in the wrld to watch. But when he focuses he can make bigtime plays.
Why do you think I defend DHB the way I do because in reality he is one of the best route runners we have and he has the biggest upside next to Chaz. Maybe the most gifted rec we have all things considered. But we have t wait until he is where he needs to be I know that hurts but trust me if he gets there it will be more than worth the wait. Listen they knew if they could jam our guy’s long enough to get to Campbell they would win and they did…………period
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:35 pm
DHB will be fine Thec. We clearly missed him yesterday. When was the last time someone played an 8 man front against us?
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dont get me wrong Bruh, DHB was clearly missed yesterday….
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Chaz DHB and Ford are clearly our top 3 receivers, two of them were down.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Thec,
I don’t think there is a LT available to us instead of DHB that was better than Veldheer ended up being. I’m fine with the DHB pick and Veldheer at LT.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Jhill post#32 is very true, I didn’t wnat to be the one to say it because everyone thinks I’m his campaign manager but we definitely missed him yesterday. He would’ve made the difference.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Trevor Scott injury is crucial.
Wonder if we move Groves to his spot, and let Goethel play WLB? They seem to be trying to get Goethel on the field.
Not crucial, like you say Groves could play backup DE and Howard or Goethel can play LB
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
They came out swinging and it seemed like we kind of balled up when they were swinging and we didn’t respond to the punch they through at us,’’ McFadden said.
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Yes Darren, pissed pants were clearly visible on some of the offensive players.
Laughable that grown men on a winning football team will admit to “ball up” in a game because the other team is being physical.
That’s why they makes QB’s who are leaders.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
So we all loved Seymour cracking Ben in the face right? I mean at the time it put on your smile at least?
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I just think we overthink this stuff. Make plays man….just make plays….
Not enough guys on offense making plays.
Defense is PROGRESSING! Guys are improving each week, discipline is getting better (I mean in scheme, not the Seymour punch)…and players on that side of the ball are working together.
Mitchell, a guy I wasn’t excited about, has stepped his game up…Houston, Shaughnessy, Huff, Routt, and dare I say…good lawd…Tommy Kelly….
The defensive players, it appears, have take personal responsibility for getting better.
The only measurable change on offense is DMAC. Him stepping up makes the offense functional…but shut him down…and its back to 2006!
The offense has a lot of work ahead of it. The receivers are a wash this year. But next year man, they gotta step it up.
I still get p#ssed watching Tampa Bay and St. Louis. Two teams THAT WERE BEHIND the Raiders in development AND talent.
At some point you gotta get the heck off the commode and start doing something
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
put a smile on your face..
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
DHB could have made a difference?
He would have been one of the first ones to check out!!!
Being that in 13 of his 19 career starts he has zero or one catch, there was a 67% chance he wouldn’t have done a damn thing.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Just get better! Let’s not go through a season, regardless of the record, and say…man this and that guy look the as last year…..
I am talking about O-Lineman, QBs and Wide Receivers.
The clarion call should be STEP UP!
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Both our QB’s suck ! O-line is trash on the right side. Hope #21 gets back quick CJ37 sucks!
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Priesttj,
I am not bagging on DHB either. First of all, he didn’t play yesterday. But secondly, I am not sure the Raiders are even putting him in position to make plays.
Watch Detroit play with Calvin Johnson. They make it a point to just get him the ball and let him fight for it. Which he does quite succesfully.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Terrible throw by Bruce. An incomplete pass would have still set up a FG that could have made it a two possession game.
Not sure why they didn’t try a run though. Bush rumbles for 20 yards……and than back to 3 straight passes.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
April 2011: Commissioner: There’s been a trade……the Oakland Raiders will be trading the #47 pick in 2011 draft and the 2nd rounder in 2012 for Quarterback Kevin Kolb…. The Philadelphia Eagles are now on the clock”
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Here’s my thought on the above subject: Having Nnamdi Asomugha, arguably the best CB in the NFL, is a pure luxury. Having a franchise QB is a necessity.
The Oakland Raiders trade Nnamdi Asomugha to the Philadelphia Eagles for Kolb, QB and Philadelphia’s #1 pick for 2011.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
I was jhoping Bush would get the bulk of the carrries in this game but he didn’t touch it until late in the 2nd qrtr. DMC should’ve beeen more in the passing game with perimeter runs. But hey they did what they did. So be it…..
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Nobody is ever going to trade for Nnamdi with that ridiculous contract unless (A) he either accepts a renogiated contract or (B) we get 40 cents on the dollar for him.
Same thing with VY. He is scheduled to make $12 million dollars next year. Not a team in the world who will pay him that, including us and the Titans
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
JB,
Can’t agree. Nnamdi is not a luxury. Nnamdi is a weapon on the field.
If he played yesterday, the score at halftime is 10-3.
Look at all the LLLLOOOOOOOOONGGGGGG completions on 3rd down.
The lack of blitzing etc..etc..
No, keep Nnamdi and we have a TOP 10 defense…Get rid of him and they are in the back of the pack….in a permanent prevent defense.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
priesttj Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
I was jhoping Bush would get the bulk of the carrries in this game but he didn’t touch it until late in the 2nd qrtr. DMC should’ve beeen more in the passing game with perimeter runs. But hey they did what they did. So be it…..
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Every other week our coaching sucks, so it looks like we will put up 60 on Miami.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I like Kolb, but there just isn’t enough film on him to make a trade like that. Remember when he took over when Vick was injured? Everyone was yelling that he couldn’t get the balls to the WRs…and his WRs are MUCH better than our. How is he different than Campbell?
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
My only criticism with Grads is that he will throw caution to the wind tooo often. He just takes too many chances and sometimes he can’t reign it in.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
So we all loved Seymour cracking Ben in the face right? I mean at the time it put on your smile at least?
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Yes! It was the only Raider attitude that I saw all day. Too bad it resulted in a rejection. I know Seymour said he felt like he let the team down. Again, the right attitude. More of our team needs to adopt this take no prisoners attitude. That’s old school Raider when we were the true monsters of the midway – so to speak.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Terrible throw by Bruce. An incomplete pass would have still set up a FG that could have made it a two possession game.
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JFB,
when Bruce came in I reminded the steelers in my section about his exploits a year ago. When he drove down the field I started trash talking….then the pick…then I left
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
JFB,
When was the last time we saw an 8 man front? Are you really telling me Pitts would’ve loaded up and 8 man front with DHB and Ford on the field?
Not likely!
The 8 man front took DHB right outta the game.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
“the steelers fans in my section”
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:07 pm
J,
I am telling you that Pittsburgh doesn’t change what they do defensively when Pro Bowl WR’s roll into town, so chances are they would have laughed in DHB’s face more than anything and beat his azz at he LOS.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
There seems to be way too much panic and overreaction on this board today. We got thumped by a better team.
We come out and stink it up against miami at home, then we can be worried. At this point the team is about where they should be maybe even a little better than most of us thought going in.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
When he drove down the field I started trash talking….then the pick…then I left
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LOL!
Happened in here too. The Gardowski guys were going nuts with those forst 3 completions for 12 yds, lol.
Cricketts after the pick.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
SnB,
I was feeling pretty good for about a minute too, but truth be told, I had a pretty bad feeling on that 3rd down play.
Bruce has always been the underdog so his mindset is always to try to make a play and prove everyone wrong.
His greatest asset is also his biggest weakness.
Although in a 21-3 game, hard to think about FG’s, but really it would have extended the game a little furthur.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Mistic,
What’s happening right now is a sobering, albeit somewhat emotional, assessment of the way things are.
Had the Raiders just lost the game…let’s say 21 – 10…move on.
But they did a “Back 2 the Future” that brings all sorts of concerns to the table.
35-3? Damn! off a bye? come on!
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Jerry, not to be nit-picky but – It’s “threw”, not “through”. That’s why you get paid the big bucks. Come on man!
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
LOL!
Happened in here too. The Gardowski guys were going nuts with those forst 3 completions for 12 yds, lol.
Cricketts after the pick.
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The wife is a huge Grads guy, and hates Campbell as well.
She went upstairs on the computer just before halftime, and stayed there until I started jumping around making noise for Bruce.
She comes down the stairs for about 2 minutes, watches the pick, laughs at me and goes back up the stairs, lol
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:16 pm
JFB,
You are right. I was thinking the same thing as I left…21-6 with a full quarter to play is still a ball game and Gradkowski needed to recognize that.
But it was fun for that short drive. The folks sitting next to me were actually very nervous…especially after the Bush run…it was uh-oh….and you started hearing the “WTF” from the fans and “not again”
But after the pick and I left…it was a little bit of trash talk from the other side.
I simply said we’ll be back….were gettin there….just not this time
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:18 pm
63.J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
When he drove down the field I started trash talking….then the pick…then I left
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LOL!
Happened in here too. The Gardowski guys were going nuts with those forst 3 completions for 12 yds, lol.
Cricketts after the pick.
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I can only imagine!
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
JFB,
I’ve watched a few Pitts games this year and I don’t recall them running 8 man fronts.
Regardless, I don’t believe there is a team out there that will play an 8 man front against us with Ford and DHB both on the field.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Mistic,
What’s happening right now is a sobering, albeit somewhat emotional, assessment of the way things are.
Had the Raiders just lost the game…let’s say 21 – 10…move on.
But they did a “Back 2 the Future” that brings all sorts of concerns to the table.
35-3? Damn! off a bye? come on!
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The wheels came off, and we were blown right off the field. Ugly and painful, but not world ending. This seems to be a resilient group, and I expect that they will look much better against miami.
So far except of houston and arizona, we are winning the games we are supposed to win.
This isnt nearly as bad as it seems.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I find it hard to believe that there are Garbagekowski guys and Campbell guys at all…I mean it is like people arguing over which pimple faced fatty is better looking….what is the point? They are both ugly.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
JFB,
I’ve watched a few Pitts games this year and I don’t recall them running 8 man fronts.
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Have the ever faced such a one-dimensional team?
We are one of the best running teams and one of the worst passing teams.
We have the 32nd ranked QB starter as far as completion % and the backup is even worse, lol.
I will give you this, if DHB actually made a play down the field in the game over the top, they might have switched up the defense. But to think that Dick Lebeau would have just conceded the big play to DHB before it happened is just off the charts ridiculous.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
The wheels came off, and we were blown right off the field. Ugly and painful, but not world ending. This seems to be a resilient group, and I expect that they will look much better against miami.
So far except of houston and arizona, we are winning the games we are supposed to win.
This isnt nearly as bad as it seems.
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I agree. We’ll bounce back.
Maybe Gradkowski will get his wish and play these guys again.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Well I know it’s a prbably not going to happen but I would love to see the Steelers again somehow. I don’t think they’re that much better than us I think we didn’t show up. I would’ve loved to see us play well and then see what happens.
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
So far except of houston and arizona, we are winning the games we are supposed to win.
This isnt nearly as bad as it seems.
We weren’t a good team back then, now we are. We committed turnovers against a better team thus giving us no chance for an upset. We shut down the run, Exposehimselfer is a great qb and he made some plays. We could beat left on our schedule. We have Miami the Jags and Denver at home all of which we must and should win. The Chargers don’t have a homefield advantage being so close to LA but Rivers is tough so we could split the Indy and SD games. We do this and were 9 and 6 heading to KC for the final game of the season.
November 22nd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Al needs to quit meddling with this team. Campbell can be good when there is protection, but when he has to make hot reads or split second decisions, he is very vulnerable. Bruce on the other hand sees the field better, quicker, and gives us the best chance to win, period. It was evident on his first play when he avoided the rush, rolled out, and hit Murphy I think on the sideline for 7 yards. Campbell would have took the sack. Then on the play when the steelers were off sides, he makes the quick pop pass for a first down. Those are the type of plays Campbell can’t make because of his anibility to make plays. Gradkowski, when healthy, should be our starter. But due to greater powers still has to wait. Unbelievable when you think about it, really.
November 22nd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Seymour Fined Not Suspended….
http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_16683569
November 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
J Hill Says:
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The minute Chaz comes back, he starting. And you know it mayne.
#1 Chaz
#2 DHB
#3 Ford
#4 JLH
#5 Murphy
It should really go
#1 Murphy
#2 Ford
#3 JLH
#4 Chaz
#5 DHB……..Cut after this season
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
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