Another report says Gradkowski to start
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A day after profootballtalk.com reported “all signs” were pointing toward Bruce Gradkowski as the Raiders’ starting quarterback against Miami, ESPN’s Adam Schefter, citing a “source close to the situation” is reporting the Raiders plan to start Gradkowski.
UPDATE: Add the NFL Network to the list . . . another “source familiar with the situation” has spoken.
Interesting in that when Jason Campbell came off the field Friday, he was at least pretending to be the starting quarterback, as coach Tom Cable said he would in the aftermath of a 35-3 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. My understanding is that both quarterbacks got first-team reps this week, although I couldn’t confirm whether it was one-sided for one quarterback or the other.
Cable and Campbell both fielded questions about having a quick hook for the quarterback without ever saying the hook had already been executed.
In theory, the Raiders would produce a quarterback for network production meetings. That information is supposed to be kept private, but if the Raiders had Gradkowski meet with announcers Gus Johnson and Steve Tasker, it’s conceivable someone got wind of it.
If the Raiders are indeed making the switch, you’d think Cable would at least be willing to stand behind it. Surely he doesn’t think a quarterback mind game will give the Raiders any sort of competitive advantage, as if the Miami defense will be hopelessly flummoxed, never imagining the Raiders would switch to Gradkowski as they’ve already done twice this year.
Perhaps it took awhile for Hue Jackson to get Al Davis to sign off on the change. Miami likes to blitz heavily, and Cable noted that Campbell seemed to become undone by the Steelers’ pressure as the game went on, hence the change to Gradkowski.
Maybe the Raiders will issue some sort of confirmation or denial today. More likely, absolute conformation would come from CBS through their production info, either on their pregame show or before the telecast (which is blacked out in the Bay Area).
If you’re playing these kinds of games with the starting quarterback position 10 games into the season, it means you don’t truly have confidence in either one.
Which means they’ll be looking for another quarterback in 2011.
None of which will matter for the time being if the Raiders win and improve to 6-5 in 2010.
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November 27th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
1st
November 27th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
I hope they do start Grads.. My personal preference obviously.
Fire, Heart, Leadership, Feet and he wills the ball to move downfield better than Campbell.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
C’mon Carson Palmer.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Jason “Aaron Brooks” Campbell is not the 2nd coming of Jim Plunkett after all. Davis scholarships must have dried up. Otherwise he would have started thick or thin.
I like Grad’s grit but he just doesn’t have enough tools to be an elite NFL starter. He’s an elite NFL backup.
Could Davis be looking in other teams’ trash pile instead of draft? U betcha.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Sage Rosenfels anybody?
November 27th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Looks like the Campbell experiment could be coming to a close.
Long, looping, slow release is his undoing.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Cut Loose The Bruce!
November 27th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Even though I am a strong Buckeye supporter. I find it hard to believe Terrelle Pryor will succeed in the NFL. Something about his passing. And he will not be that elusive in the NFL. Everyone is fast in the NFL. I’m glad he is staying for his Senior year.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Or that Johnson kid from Tampa but without a doubt we should expect several free agent qb signings this off season
November 27th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Just Fire Baby aka Vegas Raider…….. Pay me my money.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I hope this is true. Bruce plays we get to the playoffs.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Campbell can’t handle pressure and grads is injury prone…
November 27th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Well this is probably for the better. I got nothing against Jason Campbell, he seems like a nice enough fella, hard working, possesses good enough sense not to run at the mouth…..but his QBing is tough to watch.
Hopefully Gradkowski does enough to get us the win.
Then maybe we can draft that Kellen kid from Boise or Colin Kapernick from my UNR WOLFPACK baby!!! That was a great game last night. A little cold but hella fun to scream “DONKEY STOMP” at fans in Orange.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
QB is most definitely a need, no more drafting a QB unless it’s after the 1st round. We need free agent/capable back up. Like a Kolb, but who will be out there? What will be the situation in Denver, will they start Tebow next season? Either way our O-line needs to block better if we plan on a non mobile QB.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
kinda makes u wonder what really goes on behind the closed doors. one day is JC and next its bruce.
Personally I think we should go with JC and if he stinks it up, but in Grad. I doesnt make sense to play Grad and have him struggle or even worse get injured, and have JC come off the bench and be a downer.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Teabag Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Hey JUST FIRE BABY….
U wanna talk payment? Or are you going to disappear again?
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WTF are you talking about??? You owe me!!!!
The bet was that the next week after our bet, Cable would still say that Bruce was the starter.
He did say that. Than you tried to get me on some funky technicality stretching my words where Bruce wasn’t the #3 and didn’t start, but that was a month later.
You were wrong on our initial bet, which was for that next week.
From your e-mail:
2 to 1 odds.. write it down
they must EXPLICITLY state “BRUCE IS OUR STARTER”
This was after the Denver game on the 24th. And what was it that Cable said?
November 27th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Vick will not become a free agent, a franchise tag gives him plenty of money to stay. At a fare price, but what then with Kolb, what happens in Cinci with Palmer. Then there is McNabb he will get cut at no extra cost to the Skins. They will be ready to shell out big bux for the top QB free agent. The niners will keep Troy Smith, so what other option for a mobile QB are there?
November 27th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Sweet that Gus Johnson is doing the game, he is easily my favorite answer.
The guy makes you feel like you are watching the most exciting game ever.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
The Raiders will draft the 2010 Heisman trophy winner Cameron Newton from Atlanta, GA.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Mort has said many times that the Eagles will keep both Kolb and Vick next year.
Kolb is set to make under a two million next year under his rookie contract, and Vick gets hurt almost every year. So it makes sence to keep him, due to the potential need and the cheap contract.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
There are always trade possibilities for Kolb. Being a doubt after back up, the eagles could get better depth at other positions of need. But is Kolb what we need? I seem to think we need a mobile QB or at least one who can read a D better pre snap. If that’s the case then Denver plays a big role in helping if they do go with Tebow. Then maybe so
Does Palmer.
November 27th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Did anyone see some of Palmer’s ints on Thursday night? Those were terrible throws into double and triple coverage. I don’t really like Palmer
November 27th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
3.Raider75 Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
C’mon Carson Palmer.
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SIgns point to this happening…..Palmer is a former 1st round pick so he will immediately be on the Al Davis radar……of course so does Vince Young…and we all know Al Davis loves athleticism
November 27th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
JLofty – great game. was there too.
I would take either one of those QB’s.
UNR didn’t deserve to win that game. Boise beat themselves. Coach Ault may be the worst time manager i have ever seen.
UNR fans my be the worst fans I have ever witnessed. Classless. and I thought Raider fans were bad…
November 27th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Palmer is garbage since the knee injury. fact
November 27th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Too early to write off Campbell but agree with what Jerry has said all along.
Neither appear to be the long term answer.
Those of you into paying huge sums to Mike Vick need to know he’s one of the most sacked QBs in the League.
He’d get killed in Oakland and Gradkowski would have to come off the bench…until he got injured.
Then its Shane Lechler under center…
November 27th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Just Fire Baby….. You are a pure piece of sh*t…. You welching scumbag… Yes those were MY original terms of the bet.. In which YOU changed the terms… To. And I quote “it’s simple, if he is healthy, he starts. if he is deemed and healthy and does not start (like he is the #2). I lose. Consider the wager booked and I will be on you for my scratch next week”
I even posted in an earlier blog entry that you WOULD have won had we agreed to my original terms (which you didn’t)… But you had it your way!
You are a loser and a welcher to add insult to injury “Geoff”…
Don’t write checks you can’t cash next time buddy.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
VY? Hmm, nah…Davis does like african american QBs, but Young doesn’t strike me as the answer…
November 27th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Mort has said many times that the Eagles will keep both Kolb and Vick next year.
Kolb is set to make under a two million next year under his rookie contract, and Vick gets hurt almost every year. So it makes sence to keep him, due to the potential need and the cheap contract.
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Said they were keeping McNabb too…
November 27th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Perhaps it took while for Hue Jackson to get Al Davis to sign off on the change. Miami likes to blitz heavily, and Cable noted that Campbell seemed to become undone by the Steelers’ pressure as the game went on, hence the change to Gradkowski.
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Parhaps Al realized Campbell was a raTard?
November 27th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Nnamdi,
Al Davis has absolutely NO CLUE about how to evaluate and develop quarterbacks.
He’s going to go back to the same ole playbook.
1. Former 1st pick –
2. Athletic (Heigh, Weight, Speed, Arm Strength)
3. Looking for a reclamation project
Now you tell me who the QB is next year….
Considering that Kyle Boller and Jason Campbell are on the roster AND the Raiders gave that kid from Buffalo a shot late last year…..
November 27th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
I thought Andrew Walter had promise…but the Bed n Breakfast ruined him…too bad he didn’t gut it out.
Had he stuck around, he would have backed up JaDavis last year and ended up starting last year….he then would have received PROFESSIONAL coaching this year….
Bet Walter wishes he didn’t force himself out last year
November 27th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Looks to me like Jerry is protesting too much. The Raiders do not owe anyone an explanation and I do believe it’s a good thing to keep the Dolphins guessing. I don’t agree that they have no faith in either quarterback. Both Cable and Jackson want Grads, and I’ll bet the rest of the team does, too. If Bruce takes us to the playoffs, we will probably sign a veteran QB next year or draft a rookie, but Bruce will go into the season as the starter.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Gradkowski is better than Campbell.
He should be starting.
Likewise anybody should be starting over DHB.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Still have my Irwindale Raiders T.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
They have got to keep Grads healthy . They meaning the O line and Hue calling more roll outs.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
31. Dude, can’t argue with facts and you nailed this one.
Raiders can’t develop QBs for whatever reason.
Grads brings energy and has better touch but has his foibles too.
Doesn’t make good reads, forces the ball, takes big hits when scrambling, tries to Bret Favre his way out of situations and he can’t stay healthy.
At this point I do think he’s the better answer against Miami but Oakland needs to “Cut it Loose” and throw the kitchen sink at the Phins.
If they can get the ground game going it’ll help who ever is under center.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_2
November 27th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
IMO Grad aint better than JC….I prefer JC but if its Grad then win….shhhht at this point you need to win. Division is still up in the air. Thing that worries me is Grad has never led a win streak….nonetheless this Miami game should be a win no matter who is starting. Raiders have a better team than the Phins. Run the ball and dont drop Grad back so many times trying to make him a hero
November 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Nnamdi? Better touch? No
November 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Lynn,
Gradkowski has to keep himself healthy….try freekn sliding and not trying to truck a strong safety
Staying healthy is just as important for a starter as completion %.
The fact that JC was playing at all was a result of Gradkowski’s frailty and stupidity in taking on safeties and linebackers when he knows he’s not very durable.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
I personally dont like how Cable is flip flopping….whe he said Grad was still the starter back on October he should have honored that and played him when he got back. When you keep switching QBs a lack of rhythm will be the case for the offense. Team needs to know who will lead them in battle.
All I know is the oline better block because Grad cant take the shots JC was taken. He will be out for the season if they block likethey did in Pittsburg
November 27th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Lynn,
Gradkowski has to keep himself healthy….try freekn sliding and not trying to truck a strong safety
Staying healthy is just as important for a starter as completion %.
The fact that JC was playing at all was a result of Gradkowski’s frailty and stupidity in taking on safeties and linebackers when he knows he’s not very durable.
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Exactly…I mean really….do you think JC wont be starting under center again within these last 6 games? I just cant see Grad taking the weekly NFL pounding, but he better win Sunday
November 27th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Bauce 2 Dope Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Nnamdi? Better touch? No
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Oh dude, you should’ve seen the touch Grads put on some of his passes against the Steelers.
I know most people got cut off when they switched games to a “more competetive contest” but I’m tellin’ ya, Grads has displayed a better touch and accuracy coming off the bench than Campbell has starting.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Teabag,
How exactly did you win the bet than?
First off, it wasn’t a season-long bet, it was for the next week.
Yes, I did say if Bruce was #2 and didn’t start. But the bet was for the next week, in which he was he was the #3 and Cable did say he was the starter. Nothing you said turned out to be right that night, and you are trying to tough-talk your way until not admitting that you blathered on in here for hours AND WERE 100% DEAD WRONG.
Your name is Teabag and your e-mails arrive as spam. Says just above everything I need to know about you.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I’m telling you, this back and forth will continue all year.
We will make the playoffs and not know exactly who will start the playoff game.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Bauce 2 Dope Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Nnamdi? Better touch? No
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Oh dude, you should’ve seen the touch Grads put on some of his passes against the Steelers.
I know most people got cut off when they switched games to a “more competetive contest” but I’m tellin’ ya, Grads has displayed a better touch and accuracy coming off the bench than Campbell has starting.
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I watch every game in its entirety….Grad has displayed turnovers and bad accuracy just like JC….he did nada just like JC in Pitt. Grads aint good man…Yall believe he is good because Russell was that awful. Both Qbs will piss you off. I’m at the games watching them both. Where one is weak the other is strong and if you people cant admit that then I auggest you stop veiwing sports all together
November 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
No mas
The fans must have done something really stupid?
I dunno about last night but Ault has to rate in the upper echelon of college coaches.
He lead the Wolfpack back when Frank Hawkins played there. Unknown school and no football program to speak of untill Ault got there and turned things around, put Nevada on the map.
Then he took over as AD. The football program went into the dumps. So he left as AD and took over coaching again and here we are.
Ault is a fantastic coach
November 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I’m telling you, this back and forth will continue all year.
We will make the playoffs and not know exactly who will start the playoff game.
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Vegas, I can sure see that being the case. Grad will not make it these next 6 games. JC may win the last few games of year and we take division with Grad potentially being healthy for that home playoff game…..then we will have a huge problem.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
# No Mas Diamante Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Palmer is garbage since the knee injury. fact
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Palmer has no running game in Cinci and no defense. He has 2700 yards and 19 TDs this season.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Bauce,
Gradkowski might be the best short term solution. JC just didn’t seize the job. The bottom line issue here is that the Raiders want to be a vertical stretch offense….not a ball control WCO.
Gradkowski is a ball control WCO at his best…he is not the vertical QB the Raiders want. The Raiders want a big QB that can stretch the defense…take those safeties back in coverage and kill you deep. And then run the football against 6 and 7 man fronts.
Unfortuantely, JC has played poorly. So the Raiders will have to take a bunch of speedy vertical guys and win with a WCO like attack.
Next year the Raiders will try again with another QB…and Gradkowski will do his best to fight them off
November 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Perhaps it took while for Hue Jackson to get Al Davis to sign off on the change. Miami likes to blitz heavily, and Cable noted that Campbell seemed to become undone by the Steelers’ pressure as the game went on, hence the change to Gradkowski.
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If you can’t stand the heat, move away from the fire.
Pressure, it goes with the job description.
Cable and Hue knows what going on. When Cable said JC was the starter in Pitt, still aching from the beatdown, he was just passing along the directive from a week and a half earlier. So like Jerry says, perhaps it took Hue awhile to convince Al to give the OK stamp on Grads.
I can just imagine Hue with reels of film walking into Als’ office, and before he can even take the lid off one of the cans, Al is screaming, OK OK, I can’t watch another clip.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Getting the running game going again will do wonders
November 27th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
No mas
The fans must have done something really stupid?
I dunno about last night but Ault has to rate in the upper echelon of college coaches.
He lead the Wolfpack back when Frank Hawkins played there. Unknown school and no football program to speak of untill Ault got there and turned things around, put Nevada on the map.
Then he took over as AD. The football program went into the dumps. So he left as AD and took over coaching again and here we are.
Ault is a fantastic coach
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Oh yeah that guy has to get his due Plunk….Boise was prolly heading for Natl title game(Auburn going down vs Ol Ball Coach and would have jumped TCU) being up 17 at half. That team rallied. See people its about the TEAM…not one player….the TEAM wins these games and Nevada saved the college season because Boise would have got raped in Natl title game. Now we get to see Oregon vs TCU which will be a great game
November 27th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
When the refs called for a booth review with one second, I knew Boise St was going to miss the FG, it was a free time-out freeze the kicker “B.S.” call in Nevada’s favor.
What cost the game for Boise St. though was when they alsmost had Kapernick sacked for 20yd loss and he turned the corner and scored at the pylon, you could just feel the momentum switch 180 degrees.
It was a great comeback a great game, one of the best 4th qtr I’ve ever seen.
Congrats Lofty
November 27th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
As the Raiders run the rock, so the success and victories build up.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Bauce,
Gradkowski might be the best short term solution. JC just didn’t seize the job. The bottom line issue here is that the Raiders want to be a vertical stretch offense….not a ball control WCO.
Gradkowski is a ball control WCO at his best…he is not the vertical QB the Raiders want. The Raiders want a big QB that can stretch the defense…take those safeties back in coverage and kill you deep. And then run the football against 6 and 7 man fronts.
Unfortuantely, JC has played poorly. So the Raiders will have to take a bunch of speedy vertical guys and win with a WCO like attack.
Next year the Raiders will try again with another QB…and Gradkowski will do his best to fight them off
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Exactly so we got a major issue with either one starting….JC played up and down just like Grad does but one guy is a fan favorite based off of subbing for sorry ass Russell while the other didnt overly impress
To be honest I dont think a QB like Grad wins against the better defenses. He has never really shown it in his career. But middle of the road defense he can handle like this week. I expect Grad to put up 18-32 215 yards 1 TD 1 Int but we win the game still
November 27th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
After the Raiders win the AFC West we might end up having Mr. Lechler start at quarterback and as long as we win the AFC West, I could care less who starts at quarterback.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
As the Raiders run the rock, so the success and victories build up.
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Yeah we have to. I’m sick of fuggin Hue coming out flat and passing. That BS aint worked all year. Run the ball. You really gonna put the game in JC or Grad’s hands? Mistake. Coaches need to shoulder this blame as well. At times they are not doing things conducive to what we have on the field. It’s sickening
November 27th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Luck, Moore, Stanzi, Kappernick, Locker and about a half dozen others, this may be the year that more QBs are drafted in the first two rounds than any other year.
I predict a dozen qbs will be drafted before the 3rd round in 2011.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
After the Raiders win the AFC West we might end up having Mr. Lechler start at quarterback and as long as we win the AFC West, I could care less who starts at quarterback.
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Winning is all that counts
November 27th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Bauce,
The numbers don’t lie. Gradkowski is a badly inaccurate QB that turns the ball over. Like you said, he subbed for JaDavis and hence the overwhelming support…
The Raiders are looking for their own Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers, Sam Bradford or Josh Freeman type of QB….and that’s why every team in the league seeks those QBs out….those guys really make an offense a weapon.
Gradkowski hopefully will manage the game make a few throws and not turn the ball over.
The Raiders still need a Quarterback
November 27th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Now to more important sports items…
The Raiders key to victory over Miami:
Rush for over 160 yards with at least 4.5 yards average among the backs,
At least an even turnover ratio, none by the Raiders in the Red Zone,
Keep Miami under a 100yds rushing and under 3.9 ave,
give up no more than one big play for a TD,
Raiders need to score more TDs than FGs;
just like each and every game.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I don’t buy the Grads is “injury prone” line of reasoning. Grads got hurt both this year and last because he tried to make plays. A string of injuries can happen to anyone and are unpredictable. Of course, if you play like a frightened doe like Campbell you can avoid potential injuries. I see Grads staying healthy and leading us into the playoffs.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Bauce,
The numbers don’t lie. Gradkowski is a badly inaccurate QB that turns the ball over. Like you said, he subbed for JaDavis and hence the overwhelming support…
The Raiders are looking for their own Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers, Sam Bradford or Josh Freeman type of QB….and that’s why every team in the league seeks those QBs out….those guys really make an offense a weapon.
Gradkowski hopefully will manage the game make a few throws and not turn the ball over.
The Raiders still need a Quarterback
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Couldn’t agree more. Our future franchise QB is NOT currently on our roster. Grads and Campbell can be back-ups.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
When the refs called for a booth review with one second, I knew Boise St was going to miss the FG, it was a free time-out freeze the kicker “B.S.” call in Nevada’s favor.
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I sure would like see Chris Peterson as the Raider OC.
November 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I am Spartacus,
Gradkowski is subject to injury. He’s getting knocked of games. What happens to the Colts or Packers records if Manning or Rogers misses half the year with injury?
Exactly. They lose.
Staying healthy is part of the equation. Being full of courage, taking on safeties and such is great theatre…great in high school or college…but in the NFL gets you put in the tub!
November 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
BOTH Raider Qbs are victims of inexperienced WRs and spotty protection.
and I agree Bauce, like I’ve said numerous numerous times, neither QB is the answer but the FACT is Grads displays better touch than Campbell.
Has nada to do with stats. The stat shows an incomplete pass not the fact Louis Murphy dropped 4 out of 7 passes thrown his way or that Grads had to throw the ball into the turf because we can’t set up a screen play.
If I felt like it I could point out times downs and plays where Grads shows touch on the ball but frankly better things to do.
Peace out Nation!
Whoever is under center, lets get a WIN tomorrow!!!
November 27th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Teabag
You are way off on JFB. He is probaly the most honest person in here. If he in anyway owed you anything from a bet he would pay up.
I suggest you bring out an email or even a link here to prove your point.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
I don’t buy the Grads is “injury prone” line of reasoning. Grads got hurt both this year and last because he tried to make plays. A string of injuries can happen to anyone and are unpredictable. Of course, if you play like a frightened doe like Campbell you can avoid potential injuries. I see Grads staying healthy and leading us into the playoffs.
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he was trying to make a play this off season when he tore his pec muscle in the weight room.
He tore both ACL’s last year getting sacked.
Both QBs have good and bad. We may bish about Campbell but he’s a better manager and those plays where he throws it away or runs out of bounds are better than a costly mistake.
Then you’ve got Grads who will throw a pick or make a mistake but at least he’s trying.
Neither is the answer.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Bauce
Oregon – TCU would be my choice as well and a fantastic game.
I hope the Cocks kick Cams arse
November 27th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
I’m interested to see how Troy Smith does this week.
Far as UFA’s at QB for 2011, not much to choose from.
Even if we had a 1st round DP for next year we aren’t the greatest at developing QBs…
November 27th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Correct.
Neither Gradkz nor Campbell should be considered the Raider future, throw in Boller. All of these are capable back ups, but could never carry the franchise. The current elite franchise qbs in the league never came cheap, and it ain’t talking money.
The only difference between the Raider qbs is that Boller and Campbell were 1st round busts, and Gradkz a 6th rounder undersized overachiever.
So basically, the Nation is arguing between a bust and a wannabe, poor choices, and shouldn’t be part of any real discussion. Either one of them is capable of winning or choking depending on the situation.
The Raiders now should be able to win without depending on the qb play. Not easy, but that’s what it is, so it should come to, again, smart game planning, play-calling and execution, smart decision-making by everyone, lean heavily on the RBs and the defense. Most of all, don’t put the qbs in a situation were they’re going to kill the team. Probably Gradkz is better on the smart end, however Campbell might have the physicality to make plays.
Why not rotate them according to a given situation? Could that work?
November 27th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Before we start talking about who the better QB is, maybe we can discuss the lack of a decent WR. The lack of a decent OL. Before any QB can complete a pass, he has to have at least ONE decent WR who can run a route correctly, then MAYBE catch a pass or two. Our WR’s STINK. They arent even average. ANY team the raiders play can put their worse cover man on our WR’s and he will have a pro bowl day!!!..AND the OL cannot hold a block longer than 2 seconds!!!!…Can’t pick up a blitz, HORRIBLE and EMBARRASSING!!!!…does not matter who the QB is. The Raiders do NOTHING RIGHT!!!..but i digress………….Go Raiders!!
November 27th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Will Carson Palmer become available after another terrible Bengals season? If he does, should we make a run at him? He is the prototypical pocket passer. Strong arm and accurate with touch when required. His main shortcoming would be age & mobility.
If we went this direction we definitely would have to shore up our O-line at Center, ORT & ORG in that order.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Gradkowski has yet to start a game with our new left tackle.
But nobody is going to win on this team if they don’t run some misdirection.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
THe Raiders have to win like the Ravens or Grossman led Bear Super Bowl team. Win with EXCEPTIONAL defense, great running game and few turnovers…..win games 20-17 or 17-14….
The team is not going to win too many shootouts.. The QBs and WRs will turn the ball over in that situation.
Great defense, run the ball and no turnovers.
Against Pittsburgh, the turnovers lost the game and the running game couldn’t contribute.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Trade 2012 1st rounder for 2011 1st rounder
1st round – C Stephen Wisniewski (Penn State)
2nd round – WR Michael Floyd (Notre Dame)
3rd round – QB Nathan Enderle (Idaho)
5th round – CB Davon House (New Mexico State)
6th round – NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
Sign FA G Harvey Dahl, RT Jared Gaither
Re-sign Seymour, Gallery, Huff, Bush, Routt.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Jason Campbell is hype.. The guy threw a should’ve been interception, and one amazing throw in OT. That’s about it…
Only reason grads wasn’t starting is due to the unfortunate growing pains that come with a developing team. Things didn’t start clicking till that Denver game, and any QB look like a stud with our defense and running game at that time (Campbell Soup).
It’d be very wise for us to start Bruce., Campbell shouldve been exiled after that SF game.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Vegas, nothinggggggg was said about the NEXT WEEK….. He was healthy for the KC game and was #2…. THE END….. YOU LOSTTTTTFFT
your whole argument was “no matter what JC does, a QB doesn’t lose his starting job due to injury”
And that is EXACTLY……WHAT…..HAPPENED….
You are a welcher, you flaked on your own terms, which I ceded to, of the wager…
Stop trying to use semantics to plead your case…in fzct, it isn’t even semantics you are purely obfuscating right now.
You lost..
November 27th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Apparently Enderle scored a 40 on the Wonderlic…
November 27th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Our o-line is leaky, teams get to the qb. With that system now in tack, Bruce is the better fit, because he can scramble and read quickly. JC can’t. Feel good about Sunday.
Oakland 31
Miami 10
November 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
mikedlopes Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Only reason grads wasn’t starting is due to the unfortunate growing pains that come with a developing team
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No, the only reason Gradkowski wasn’t starting is because he was injured from:
1. Trying to ruck a strong safety
2. Getting sacked hard
If you want to be a starter in the NFL…helps to stay healthy for more than 50% of a season.
Can’t win games from the tub.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Until the OLine’s pass protection issues (can’t handle a 5 man rush) are addressed it doesn’t matter who the QB is. Grads works better against pressure but he stares down his target too much and that injury to his AC joint didn’t just go away. I separated my shoulder and busted up my AC joint. The most frustrating part about that injury is that in your mind you are throwing a ball fast and hard but the more the throw the less power you generate. I had a specialist tell me that for pro athlete’s surgery is almost a given with that type of injury. All of us regular guys just end up in rehab. What bothers me most about the offense is that you don’t see either QB dialing out of bad plays as much as you should. If Grads is such a film junkie then he shouldn’t make as many mental mistakes as he does. And the same goes with JC. If he can figure out 6 different offensive schemes then there isn’t anything that he hasn’t seen. But he still looks indecisive. I like YoungAmerican’s draft but i think you can add VY for a 6th round pick or Troy Smith in Free Agency.And maybe grab a OL in the 3rd round.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
28.Nnamdi21 Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
VY? Hmm, nah…Davis does like african american QBs, but Young doesn’t strike me as the answer…
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Young would be an upgrade over ANY QB we have, but still not enough. We need an elite QB.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
“I sure would like see Chris Peterson as the Raider OC.”
or head coach even.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
I really like Ryan Mallet. Would love to see him in Silver N Black as well.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Vince Young isn’t leaving the Titans. Bud Adams loves the guy to death. He’ll part with Fisher before he parts with Young.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Not going to get an elite QB. Have to win with the “3 yards and a cloud” mentality.
Exceptional defense, strong running game and no turnovers
November 27th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Mallett has been looking pretty good today. Some people are calling him JaMarcus 2.0, but I don’t know why that is. I haven’t seen him enough to make a judgment, but he certainly looks like he can make some big-time throws.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Chris Petersen??
November 27th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Christian Ponder has played pretty well today, too.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Trade 2012 1st rounder for 2011 1st rounder
1st round – C Stephen Wisniewski (Penn State)
I completely agree with first and last we should sign Mr. Routt as well, no sense in trading him now that we have trained him.
Stanford is pro-bowl caliber now.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Only way we can get Wisnewski is to trade a 2012 draft pick along with our 2011 2nd round pick and we should; Unless we are committed to converting Mr. Vehldeer to center.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Guys, the answer for QB has been right under our nose! Convert DMC into a QB! Vick who?
November 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
or Bob Stoops!
November 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
The NFL fined the Denver Broncos and coach Josh McDaniels $50,000 each after a team employee violated the league’s integrity-of-the-game policy by videotaping a six-minute portion of the San Francisco 49ers’ Oct. 30 practice in London.
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The Broncos and NFL made the announcement Saturday, nearly one month after the 49ers’ 24-16 victory on Oct. 31 at Wembley Stadium.
The Broncos informed the NFL that team video director Steve Scarnecchia took the video and presented it that day to McDaniels, who declined to view it. However, McDaniels was fined because he failed to report the incident as required by league policy.
“I apologize for not reporting the improper conduct of our video director that took place on Saturday (Oct. 30) in London before our game against the San Francisco 49ers” McDaniels told reporters during a news conference Saturday. “I found out about the situation that day. We certainly did not view or do anything with the footage, and he was made aware that it was something that we didn’t condone in our organization, and I failed to follow through and report it to the proper individuals in our organization and with the league.
“This incident is in no way representative of what the Broncos stand for, and in no way representative of what I stand for as the head coach of this organization — and for that, I take responsibility. I understand the punishment that the league has handed me and our team, and we have addressed this situation with our entire organization to make sure nothing like this ever happens again.”
McDaniels said he spoke with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on Saturday morning.
“We understand that it is not only our job individually, but as an organization, to uphold the integrity of the National Football League by what we do every day, and this certainly was not a good example of that,” McDaniels said. “We don’t condone this type of activity — don’t teach it, coach it and nor would we ever in the future. It was an isolated situation, an unfortunate situation, and again, I reiterate my sincere apology to (Broncos owner) Pat (Bowlen), this entire Broncos organization and all the people that support us.”
The Broncos also were fined because they are responsible for their employees’ actions.
“The Denver Broncos and I, as the owner, believe in the integrity of the National Football League and fair competition and do not, in any way, condone this type of behavior,” Bowlen said in a statement. “The fact that an employee of the Denver Broncos would take such action is personally disappointing to me. I apologize to all affected by this incident. …
“This incident cuts into the trust and respect our fans, our ticket holders, our community and our fellow competitors have for our organization. That is why the Denver Broncos, upon learning of this violation, immediately investigated this matter and reported the incident to the league.”
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The Broncos terminated Scarnecchia’s employment for cause. Also, Goodell notified Scarnecchia that, as a repeat violator of league rules relating to the integrity of the game, he will be the subject of a hearing to determine whether or not he should be barred from the league.
Scarnecchia and McDaniels previously worked for the New England Patriots, who were found to have videotaped New York Jets coaches sending in signals during a game four years ago. The NFL bans such videotaping and issued $750,000 in fines against the Patriots and coach Bill Belichick. The Patriots also were stripped of their 2008 first-round draft pick.
Scarnecchia worked for the Patriots between 2001 and 2005. McDaniels, who worked in New England from 2001 to 2009, hired Scarnecchia in Denver shortly after becoming the Broncos’ coach 22 months ago.
Broncos chief operating officer Joe Ellis told reporters during a conference call Saturday that the team fully accepted the discipline imposed on the organization and McDaniels.
“I stand by the fact that this particular incident has been handled the right way,” he said. “We’re not proud of it. … It goes against the grain of what Pat Bowlen stands for. He’s embarrassed.”
Ellis said the incident wasn’t viewed by Bowlen or the organization as grounds for firing McDaniels, but acknowledged that “Josh should have come forward as soon as he found out.”
“We’re disappointed in the season, as it’s gone thus far,” Ellis said. “This particular incident does not sway Mr. Bowlen’s feelings about Josh one way or the other. He understands Josh made a mistake. Josh has acknowledged that to him.”
Ellis emphasized there was no evidence of a cover-up during the organization’s internal investigation.
“I believe what has come out is true,” he said.
Ellis also expressed disappointment in Scarnecchia’s actions.
“It’s disappointing he chose the wrong path in London,” he said. “He knew our standards.”
NFL executive vice president/general counsel Jeff Pash told reporters on the call that if the league unearths evidence of additional violations, Goodell would immediately reopen the investigation with the potential for further discipline.
Pash said the investigation revealed that the practice footage was housed on a single laptop.
“We did forensic analysis on several laptops, just to find out it had been copied and perhaps displayed elsewhere,” Pash said. “I don’t believe he could tell if the video had been played or not, but we could tell that it had been copied onto the laptop.”
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The league found that Broncos executives were made aware of the videotaping on Nov. 8, after the team’s return from London.
After conducting an internal review, Broncos executives contacted the NFL office on Nov. 12 and requested a meeting to report the apparent violation. On the morning of Nov. 16, Broncos executives, including owner Pat Bowlen, met with NFL staff in New York to disclose Scarnecchia’s actions.
Based on the report, NFL Security promptly began an investigation, which included interviews of Broncos personnel in Denver on Nov. 18 and 19. NFL Security also arranged for a forensic analysis of the laptop computers used by the video department, which confirmed that the practice had been recorded. NFL Security retained the tape.
“The San Francisco 49ers organization is aware of the results of the league’s investigation involving the Denver Broncos,” the 49ers said Saturday in a statement. “The situation has been addressed by the NFL, therefore, the team will not be commenting any further.”
Scarnecchia acknowledged to NFL investigators that he taped the walkthrough, according to excerpts from Goodell’s letter to Bowlen.
Goodell’s letter stated that Scarnecchia maintained he hadn’t previously recorded a walkthrough or other practice or “engaged in any other improper videotaping (such as recording coaching signals of an opposing team) since joining the Broncos.”
The letter also said Scarnecchia “knew that what he did in London was wrong,” that taping the walkthrough was his decision alone and nobody instructed him to record the practice.
In addition, the investigation found that when Scarnecchia offered to show the tape to McDaniels, the coach replied, “No, I’m not doing that.” Scarnecchia said he didn’t show the tape to any other staff member.
Goodell’s letter to Bowlen stated that McDaniels was interviewed “under circumstances that would have made it impossible for him to have spoken to Mr. Scarnecchia in advance” and that the coach’s recollection of events matched Scarnecchia’s.
“Although I find no fault with the way the club handled this matter once you and your executives became aware of it, I nonetheless believe that some penalty must be imposed,” Goodell wrote. “We have no more important responsibility than preserving the integrity and competitive fairness of the game and avoiding any implication that games are decided by anything other than what takes place on the field.”
The letter added: “This appears to be a single incident by an employee who acted entirely on his own; there was no competitive effect; and, most importantly, the Broncos promptly took the initiative to report the violation. Had any of those factors not been present, I would have almost certainly imposed much more substantial discipline on the club.”
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But, Goodell added, “clubs are ultimately accountable for the conduct of their employees.”
Goodell said that while McDaniels “apparently declined to look at the tape, I also believe that he should have immediately advised you or one of your senior executives when he learned what Mr. Scarnecchia had done.”
Goodell cited a policy in which team executives, head coaches and others are obliged to promptly report violations tied to the integrity of the game. The commissioner said a “significant number of club employees” have certified in writing they are aware of no further violations of the policy.
Goodell added that if further information comes to light, the league will reopen the investigation and, if necessary, impose further discipline.
The fines are the latest embarrassment for a Broncos team that has lost 15 of 20 games for the first time since 1971 and 1972. The Broncos were blown out 59-14 by the archrival Oakland Raiders last month in what many consider the worst home loss in the team’s 51-year history.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
I wonder if the rumors of Enderle scoring 40 on the Wonderlic are true. He has all the physical tools, but the Raiders sure could use a QB with the legit decision-making skills.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Mallett has been looking pretty good today. Some people are calling him JaMarcus 2.0, but I don’t know why that is. I haven’t seen him enough to make a judgment, but he certainly looks like he can make some big-time throws.
……
At least he can play from under center.
They were saying today that coaches trust him completely and allow him to audible at the line so you know he can read the defense.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
or:
Cowher,
Gruden,
Dungy,
Edwards,
that former Baltimore coach who I get mixed up with the New England coaches’ name.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
88.SnB Production Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Not going to get an elite QB. Have to win with the “3 yards and a cloud” mentality.
Exceptional defense, strong running game and no turnovers
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Ok, but then the QB needs to be able to make the Deep outs.
November 27th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Raiders 28 Miami 10
November 27th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Focus the draft on the right side of the offensive line.
Get a veteran receiver to fill the role Schilens was supposed to
November 27th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Christian Ponder has played pretty well today, too.
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No doubt. Dude can ball.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
You mean Stephen Wisniewski, nephew to Steve, yes, keep it in the family, a center is badly needed.
It’s correct that neither the Raider WR core and the OL are good enough to compensate mediocre qbs, and it works both ways, a great qb makes the OL and the WRs look good.
Case in point Brady, Manning, Rivers. Just like good WRs make mediocre qbs look better than they are, Romo, Eli, etc., just as well bad qbs can make good WRs look bad, Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, etc.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
# zopi Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
You mean Stephen Wisniewski, nephew to Steve, yes, keep it in the family, a center is badly needed.
It’s correct that neither the Raider WR core and the OL are good enough to compensate mediocre qbs, and it works both ways, a great qb makes the OL and the WRs look good.
Case in point Brady, Manning, Rivers. Just like good WRs make mediocre qbs look better than they are, Romo, Eli, etc., just as well bad qbs can make good WRs look bad, Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, etc.
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Palmer a bad QB? LOL… 5th in the league in yards with 2760 and 6th in TDs with 19. Yeah, he has 15 INTs but so does Brees.
Palmer plays on a poorly coached team with no running game and no defense.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Palmer still made bad decisions like throwing into double and triple coverage for ints.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
# Guy Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Palmer still made bad decisions like throwing into double and triple coverage for ints.
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He is still considered an elite QB in the NFL
November 27th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Grads may not be the long term answer at QB but right now he is our best answer. (And that’s the real, without the rose colored glasses).
November 27th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
I find it funny how many comments there are stating that it doesn’t matter who the QB is because the O-line sucks, or the wide receivers suck; that is exactly why it matters!!!
Campbell has shown zero ability to find any receivers quickly, or to scramble effectively. His screen pass thrown directly into the dirt last week gave me JaMarcus flashbacks that I have still not totally recovered from.
Bruce gets the ball out. He makes the rest of the team play better/harder. Give him a chance to benefit from our above average run game by playing him when we aren’t trailing by two touchdowns and watch his numbers increase.
I am definitely not claiming Gradkowski is the answer for the Raiders long-term, but given our options at the moment, for the team that we have right now, he is the correct choice. I am a Gradkowski fan for the same reason this year, as I was last year: Because of the other guy.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
I don’t like either of our QBs. I was hoping that JC could repair his career but he’s proven to just not have it.
Gradkowski is not the guy for 16 weeks….
AGain, I have always emphasized defense, defense, defense!
And it will be the defense that carries this team the rest of the season. That and Darren McFadden.
Tell the rest of the so-called players to just not mess it up
November 27th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
It does matter who the qb is, with the o-line system we use, the qb sure as heck better matter. BG fits the current state of our o-line.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
What the heck happened to my post?
November 27th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Palmer may actaully be a much better QB in Oakland than Cincy for the said reasons.
Cincy cannot run the ball and has a terrible defense. Its been analyzed before showing how much better Palmer plays (his best) when Cincy can run the ball on occassion. And they win games.
He can be a viable option here; but what is his contract status?
Given a good defense and running game; which we have – Palmer can actually win a lot of games here.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
But you can put the Vick pipe dreams down – that’s simply not going to happen.
Best guess for potential QBs assuming they are available: Grads, Palmer, VY or draft pick with Grads starting next year until he is ready. The problem with a draft pick is I don’t see Al wanting to start over from stratch. This team can win now with the right/experienced QB.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Terrapin,
I would have no problem bringing in Carson Palmer. I wouldn’t bring in Vince Young though. He’s not focused on football. HE’s focused on B.S. And players focused on B.S don’t fare well in Oakland. You can’t play for Jeff Fisher? You can’t play!
I would bring in Palmer and have him, Gradkowski and some young late round pick compete in camp in an HONEST competition.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Brandon Marshall is out! …
Tell Hue to run the ball and tell whoever is the QB to not throw any INTs.
Defense will take care of the rest
November 27th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
I wonder if AD was involved with the Pitts play calling.
Or are the coaches that incompetent?
November 27th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
For the love of god, why in the world would you want to bring Palmer in here? Another retread? No way.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
ZMiller & LMurphy were both playing partially hurt last week & it showed. They should not play this week unless there are 100%. Actually, I’d like to see Ford start at WR and really stretch the field. I also hope we get to see more of NMiller. I’d like to see him run out of the slot on crossing patterns. I think he’d really be able to do some damage there especially if Grads is rolling out.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
# morilla Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
For the love of god, why in the world would you want to bring Palmer in here? Another retread? No way.
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Plunkett was a strong armed retread and that seemed to work out OK. I think Carson Palmer could really thrive here with a running game & and a defense.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Morilla,
We have what we have. Franchise QBs…hell…just serviceable QBs are not easy to come by. As a result of the JaDavis experiment, the Raiders find themselves in a situation with the worst QB situation in the NFL and no immediate relief in the draft.
Its relatively easy and inexpensive to bring in retread QBs. Hopefully a guy like Palmer can reignite his career.
The two guys the Raiders have now are not going to develop into QBs that will make this offense a good one.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Palmer signed an extension thru 2014 on Thursday.He isn’t going anywhere,although he’d be a great addition.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Sorry,old article.But he is signed thru 2014 and I doubt the Bungles will let him go.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
It’s funny how people are tryna re-write the history of Grads.
He’s better than JC. Waaaaaaayyyyyyyy better.
It’s says more about JC than anything. The only reason Grads wasn’t starting was because he was injured. Remember that? JC and Grads went into a week of practice and one came out the winner. It’s really more simple than everyone on this blog is making it out to be.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Grad is better then JC with this OL but if we can draft/FA some OL JC would be better
November 27th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Ya know, tomorrow is tomorrow and next year is next year. I don’t give a damn who starts or finishes at quarterback tomorrow. All I want to do is see the Raiders WIN. It doesn’t matter who does it or how it happens at this point.
In 2011, I want to see a QB who is the same guy every week and can WIN for the team. No doubt. But tomorrow, I don’t give a damn.
Oakland: 27
Miami: 17
November 27th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
here here
November 27th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
oak 24
mami 13
November 27th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Toyz…
where, where?
November 27th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
You want Palmer to reignite his career with our receiving corps? Good luck with that. He gas two of the best receivers in football and is still irratic as hell. I understand our situation, neither is the future.
Who is? I have no clue. My confidence in the org drafting a QB is shot and there is slim pickings around the league.
I am really am excited about the teams improvement. Let’s just keep it rolling. See you locals up there for the Denver game.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
F@#$ yeh!!!!!!!!!
November 27th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Raiders 90
Dolphins 0
Tomorrow we’re going to be calling him Bruce Stabler.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
If we get a better O-Line and JC starts next year we still wouldn’t win because the blueprint is out that all you need to do is blitz him every single play. If JC got max protection and time to throw, his stats over his career says it will be a 2 to 3 yrd pass to the RB plus the YAC.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
November 27th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I’m telling you, this back and forth will continue all year.
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You say that is if you don’t know who the culprit of this back and forth is. You know who the coaching staff wants to start.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
I hope Bruce can do it.
Don’t see him as long-term….be a great turnaround
November 27th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Well, it looks like things are going the way I wished for. Xmas came early for me today.
1. I wanted JC to start against Pitt so that we can put his myth and overhype to rest.
2. Grad is now finally starting. The last time he started, our spec team, D and Oline were all struggling. Now those 3 areas have improved.
so long as he stays healthy, I feel strongly we will win the division. 4-2 with a healthy Grad to finish the season.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Bruce is long term. He’s a pro bowler if we just start him permanently and run a realistic, balanced game plan. A pro bowler. I said it. And you know I’m right.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Wow, iPhones auto-correct is awful.