Bay Area News Group Sunday links
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 28th, 2010 at 8:43 am in Oakland Raiders.
A few links to consider before the Raiders play the Dolphins this afternoon in a battle of 5-5 teams hoping to remain in the playoff chase:
– The story got held a few weeks for space considerations, but “Fade to Black” examines the problems the Raiders have dealing with an antiquated NFL blackout rule with a season ticket base of between 20,000 and 24,000.
When I put out a brief post asking for fans and their experiences at the Coliseum, the e-mail response was overwhelming. Given an approximately 900-word limit and all the issues involved, I wound up using very little in terms of fans quoted in the story. Rest assured, however, I read them all and it provided valuable perspective in framing the story.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to send an e-mail.
– Here’s my weekly NFL column and the questionable tactics utilized by the San Diego Chargers, who nonetheless are in good position for another strong finish and and AFC West title.
– My weekly NFL rankings have the New York Jets at No. 1 and the Raiders dropped to No. 18 after their loss to Pittsburgh.
– Beat writer Steve Corkran writes about Tom Cable’s quarterback sneak, a silent flip-flop from Jason Campbell to Bruce Gradkowski.
– Today’s Dolphins-Raiders game features two teams at 5-5 trying to atone for embarrassing losses in their previous game.
– We’re changing up the game-day chat format. For the past few Raiders home games, I’ve been doing in-game chats from kickoff to finish, and I’ve got a confession to make. I’m spending so much time interacting with readers and writing comments that I’m missing too much of the games I’m supposed to be covering. When I have chats on Tuesdays, I’ll get questions about plays I never saw because my face was in my computer screen.
So today, I’ll have a pre-game chat starting at noon and lasting until just before kickoff. I’m sure topics on the table will be the Gradkowski-for-Campbell switch, as well as how the Raiders will rebound from last week’s defeat against Pittsburgh.
I’ll check in with quarter updates here and on my Twitter page.
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November 28th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Jerry,
The more you guys write about Tom Cable, the more AD will get jealous.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:49 am
From Steve Corkran…..The two people within the organization said Cable and offensive coordinator Hue Jackson prefer Gradkowski as the starter, while Davis still sides with Campbell.
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AD will not like this at all. All the credit will go to Cable and AD will not be happy with that if Bruce delivers.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:51 am
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November 28th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Jerry
I like your weekly Sunday link blog. I miss a lot of stuff and the pregame chat sounds like great idea.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:53 am
I think Hue is the biggest Grads supporter in all.
More so than myself, AIG and Raiderman99.
I always thought that Hue’s preseason comment about his #1 characteristic he wants in his QB’s is “the ability to lead men” was a subtle jab at Campbell and his laid-back demeanor.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:54 am
“I feel like, for the most part in this season, I had a pretty good year,” Campbell said, “and, hey, we lost two tough games, but that happens.”
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Had a good year when you rank in the bottom of the league in just about every category for a QB and got yanked twice? Sounds like Jamarcus part Deux.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:54 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:50 am
NOW we got a game!
When Bruce came in last week he initially went five for five and drove ‘em downfield-until the interception.
Regardless of the interception Bruce moved the team where Campbell didn’t.
I’m a lot more optimistic about winning than I was two days ago.
Raiders 28-17!
Make some NOISE at that game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Our defense should be able to keep their foot on Miami’s neck all game. Marshall needs to go back to attacking the QB instead of solely relying on the rush of the front 4. Nnadmi coming back should allow us to be a bit more aggressive.
Anxious to see how we play the nickle. Huff to Corner and more Stevie Brown is what I read earlier this week.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:59 am
There was an article in BSPN a few days ago by some black female writer regarding the disrespecting of black QB’s. She complained that JC got benched too soon. She thought it was a racial thing. I had to remind her that HUE was the one that wanted to bench him in the first game.
Hue is prob Grad’s biggest supporter. He asks Grad to throw way too often behind that crappy line.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Of course Al wants Campbell to succeed because he thought he got another Plunkett but, Plunkett rode the pine and waited for his chance . Campbell was given the starting job , he didn’t earn it. Al can’t see the forest through the trees.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Regardless of the interception Bruce moved the team
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The pick was a crucial play man. Hope he learns from that, or maybe gets some better timin with the WR.
Our WRs need to play better. Recognize hot reads and get open in the seams for Gradkowski.
Our Oline needs to not let guys run free at the QB!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:06 am
The switch last week should have been at the half not mins left in the 3rd qtr. Bruce had too big of a hill to climb after Pitt went up again.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:08 am
The deficit at that point in the game was less than the deficit Bruce overcame in the second half last year. Bottom line, the entire team didn’t get it done. That includes Bruce.
Hopefully the guys get back on track this today. I expect they will, but they need to come out strong and play solid ball for all four quarters.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I don’t get this notion that Al so called “wanted” Campbell??!!!??
CABLE is the one who wanted a QB to replace Russell on the roster. Al tried to get the QBs who were available. McNabb first, Campbell second. Of course Al is going to talk up a player he acquired in a trade.
But CABLE is the guy who wanted anyone but Russell on the roster, and Al got him the 2nd best QB on the open market. Terrible market, lol!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:11 am
England,
When BG is in there, we can feel the offense getting into a rythm but that int was a HUGE error on BG. We score that TD and we’d be down 11 points with over 1 qtr left. The game/momentum would have changed for sure. Can’t have schytt like that today.
Lynn,
I find it insulting that Jason was compared to Jim Plunkett. You are correct Plunk had to ride pine and even then AD didnt want Plunk in there. He traded for Pastorini and wanted Pastorini if my memory is correct. Even after Plunk was succesful, I believe AD drafted Marc Wilson in the first round and wanted Wilson in there instead of Plunk.
JC is no Plunk.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:11 am
I’d argue that the open market is always a pretty terrible place to find a quarterback.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:14 am
The score was 14-3 when Murphy fumbled. Pitts came right down and went up 21-3. Our oline was in disarray, our WRs couldn’t get off the press coverage, and Miller and Murphy were not on their game. Gradkowski wouldn’t have made much of a difference in that game.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Is Jason Campbell a stud? No. But at least he is a pro caliber QB who if blocked for and given a run game can make this an explosive offense.
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He is NOT a pro caliber QB. He cannot take pressure and wilts like bad lettuce during the heat of a pass rush. The fact is that both Hue Jackson and Tom Cable(who I don’t favor) have come to the conclusion that Grads gives us a better chance to win and have put their asses on the line with Al Davis to prove it.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:16 am
November 28th, 2010 at 9:11 am
I’d argue that the open market is always a pretty terrible place to find a quarterback.
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Not even something that needs to be argued. Teams don’t get rid of good QBs for future 4th rd picks.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:17 am
LOL @ post 9
Well last year after JaBust got benched a guy on the radio complained that Russell got benched because he is an afro-american QB. That is the silliest comment i’ve ever heard.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Not even something that needs to be argued. Teams don’t get rid of good QBs for future 4th rd picks.
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Yep. Even the Redskins are finding it out the hard way. Teams don’t get rid of their QBs for no reason.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Pretty stoked to be watching meaningful Raider football after Turkey Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We just need an 80+ QB rating from Bruce today and we should be good. Nothing spectacular, but our season QB rating is in the low 70’s so an 80+ would be a marked improvement.
And for the love of all things please don’t get hurt again!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:21 am
AIG At least we didn’t have to wait for Campbell to get his leg broken.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am
RAY GUY IS IN THE HOF SEMIFINALS!!…
I believe the raiders and Ray guys fortunes goes together, when Guy gets in the HOF the Raiders are back from the quagmire..
November 28th, 2010 at 9:27 am
this is the game raiders should win. I see them winnin in a tight score, 21-17, 24-21…
key will be the raidee OL, will they kick buttt or be kicked ?
well soon find out.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Neither of these quarterbacks is particularly good, and it’s likely we’ll continue to need both: Campbell coming in for Grads when he gets injured and Grads for Campbell when he shuts down and quits.
At least when Grads fails I feel like he went down swinging. Campbell gets into a funk and it’s obvious he’s done. Nobody can tell me he’s coming back to life after he gets into that funk. He starts throwing them up for grabs or gets very content with 3-and-outs. If the running game is working and the Raiders are up by a score or two, then Campbell is a good, safe ball-control QB, but he’s never going to lead us to any promised land.
I’m not sure Bruce can take the Raiders deep into the playoffs either, but as he’s shown on occasion, he can get hot and lead the upsets.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:28 am
we need to get mcbush on track. 35 carries between the 2 and some damn to’s by the defense should be enuff. as much as i just want to win i expect an azz whippin. dont even keep this game close.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Let’s go Hue!
Step your chess game skills up!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:35 am
raider OL has to have a huge game today, raider OL has to pound and grind run the football dammitt
its november football!!
the autumn wind is a pirate!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am
exlaraidersticketholder:
First, Hue Jackson’s tail is only on the line to become the next Raiders head coach.
Second, even NFL QB’s wilt like lettuce under pressure especially the kind that Lebeu & Pitts bring. He is an NFL caliber QB because he can make throws with velocity all over the field.
Campbell has a ways to go and I don’t think he will ever be great but he is without a doubt better than Bruce. Both have had long enough careers for their stats to bear out the difference between the two, and the difference is pretty striking.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Lynn,
I hear ya. I’ll fess up that I wanted JC hurt so that he can be yanked coming into the STL game. I thought TC would never have the balls to yank AD’s pet project.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:40 am
the autumn wind is a pirate!!
run the football dammitt!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I fear we wont win at all
November 28th, 2010 at 9:42 am
The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Tom cable has to go. Flip flopping qb is a desperate move that doesnt work. You bench the guy that led a 3 game win streak, beat 3 division opponents, led blowouts & come from behind wins? Bench the guy that beat teams we should beat, teams that we are even with, & a team that is better than our own, you bench him after a road loss to a superbowl contender?
All of your stay the course garbage is now undone.
We should beat miami no matter who is our qb.
I think cables failure to deliver a quality o line and his wishy washy qb stance will get him canned, especially if we lose this game. You dont bench the starter and then lose at home to a team that you clearly should beat.
Santa bring me cam newton & a new head coach, tom cable isnt worth his weight in reigndeer ish!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Nnamdi is still “game time decision” I wonder if he’s gonna play after all.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am
He is an NFL caliber QB because he can make throws with velocity all over the field.
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So could Jay Schroeder. But both QB’s have a lack of leadership skills. When a Qb has the demenor of Campbell, players play down to his level. That is why you see more energy in the offense when Grads comes in. Yes Campbell has more physical skills but has not expressed the leadership skills in his years in the NFL.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Bench a QB that throws bounce passes on simple screen plays. Bench a guy who couldn’t beat SF and is 29th rated passer in the league. Bench a guy who would rather slide to safety than battle for a first down.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I think Tom Cable is closer to winning COY than he is to getting fired.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Besides, I doubt Cable did anything but sign-off on the move.
This is all Hue Jackson making this switch, just like he made the switch against the Rams.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:57 am
Rooting against the team today:
Priest
JHill
LB
Anyone else?
I haven’t read today’s comments yet. I imagine that list will have about 20 names when I do. Those 3 are just from last night.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Keeping things in perspective:
1) As Raiders fans we should all be excited about how this young team is coming along. 3-0 in the division is a great sign for the future
2) Forget all the Campbell and Grads talk, McFadden carries this offense on his shoulders every time he touches the ball. Let’s hope he stays healthy for years to come.
3) The more games we win the lower that first round pick becomes for the Patriots….Go Raiders!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Rooting against the team today:
Priest
JHill
LB
Mistic
November 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Instead of building positive momentum toward next year, cable has now placed us on the verge of spiraling out of control in a now meaningless season.
This gradkowski spark thing has already been proven to be a fruad. This move by cable is dispicable. It throws campbell under the bus, at the same time attempts to take the spot light from the real issue, crappy oline
A selfish move by a head coach on the hot seat.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
NO to Cam Newton. It’s Jamarcus and Campbell all over again.
Newton is slow and does these little dance moves to avoid the hits. He’ll get creamed doing that in the NFL.
Remember, Jamarcus was a GREAT college QB too.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Cable is being “selfish” for trying to win?
November 28th, 2010 at 10:02 am
J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I don’t get this notion that Al so called “wanted” Campbell??!!!??
CABLE is the one who wanted a QB to replace Russell on the roster
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Did Cable call him the next Plunkett? Do you realize what it means to call a QB the next Jim Plunkett? Plunkett won 2 Super Bowls. I could see if it was a reporter, but we’re talking the owner of the team!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I was excited when Davis traded for Campbell and wanted him to match up to AD’s prediction of being the next Plunkett. But seeing him perform has made me come to the realization he will never excell. Seeing his lack of confidence from up close last week in Pittsburgh and the lack of fire to compete even though he was under severe duress made up my mind. He had the opportunity and now it is time to go on. Whether or not Grads succeeds is open to question but the book has been closed on Campbell unless something happens to Bruce.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
I have a question.
For the people who still want JC to start and get yanked if he Sux, what kind of strategy is it to purposely waste a half of football just because? Logic would say use the best guy for the whole game and have a greater potential for winning, right?
November 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Preppie,
How about them Bucks? Are we going to go an entire decade without a Preppie Mich win?
The Great OSU > Mich
November 28th, 2010 at 10:03 am
After Grads lights up the shrimp today, be sure to come here and harass the following people, because they will NOT be happy:
Priest
JHill
LB
Mistic
November 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
if we lose today it will be on oline….
November 28th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Rmr,
i have never rooted against my team. Dont put words in my mouth, it makes you a liar.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am
With Bruce, it will open up running lanes again for McFadden as the Fish will have to defend the pass which the Steelers felt they didn’t have to last week.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Sorry Exraidersticketholder you can argue that Campbell isn’t a good enough leader, and that’s a fair arguement but 53% career completion ratings do not make it in the NFL. End of story. I wish Bruce had Campbell’s skill set but he doesn’t and emotion isn’t enough. At some point the stats have to bear it out.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am
A selfish move by a head coach on the hot seat.
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No, a move by a coach to give the team the best chance to win.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:08 am
You People,
JC and Bruce are AVG at best. We need to focus on fixing the OL and not worry about which one of our AVG QBs will start this week.
Fix the OL, improve the Defense, and we can win with an avg QB like JC or Bruce.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:09 am
# mistic1 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Rmr,
i have never rooted against my team. Dont put words in my mouth, it makes you a liar.
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Alright Mistic.
Let me ask you one question.
When Gradkowski is just lighting it up today, and Campbell is just sitting there with his stupid clip board and that stupid look on his face, while Gradkowski just methodically moves the ball downfield, avoids sacks, and makes big plays all day, you’re going to be genuinely happy? You’re not going to have to force yourself to be happy, not one bit? You’re not going to have to “accept” what you’re seeing? It’s going to be what you genuinely want to see? Gradkowski PROVING that he is the true leader and QB of this team? You will honestly be genuinely happy about that?
November 28th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Later Raider Nation,
I want to watch some football. Go Raiders.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I’d like to offer another explanation and perspective on why Tom Cable stated that JaJason was still the Raider starter after the Pitt debacle, and some speculation on what Al’s role in all of this is.
I don’t believe for a moment that Cable is going against Al’s will in starting Grads.
Al has some personal pride at stake since he stated he thinks JaJason could be our next Plunk.
Al doesn’t want to appear wrong in his assessment of JaJason and would prefer that JaJason play – and play well.
But Al will not sacrifice whatever shot the Raids have at the playoffs this year due to false pride. Al isn’t blind, and even Ray Charles can see JaJason is terrible.
Al hoped that the Raids could continue to win even with JaJason’s horrendous play hampering the team. Pittsburgh ended those hopes and ended any illusion Davis might have continued to harbor about JaJason being even a marginal NFL QB.
Why did Cable appoint JaJason the starter even after Pitt ?
There’s a combination of reasons.
Number one, Cable understands his role as head coach of the Raids and that if Davis demands JaJason starts, he’s going to follow orders from the boss.
Surely Cable was lobbying for Grads to return as the starter when healthy and had faith Davis would acquiesce once this occurred. The destruction of Denver and then the miracle against KC derailed this plan temporarily.
Al and Cable also get to see the Raids practice and I honestly think Grads wasn’t healthy enough to practice all week and play well on Sunday. I’m still not convinced his shoulder is 100%. Some suspect throws last week in Pitt. But even at somewhat less than 100%, Grads is clearly a better option than JaJason.
So Tom said the right thing until he saw Grads was ready to go. No reason to alienate JaJason and completely crush his confidence until there was no doubt Bruce was healthy enough and the Boss was also prepared to move on.
Once Bruce practiced well enough to convince Davis and the staff he was ready, the charade ended and JaJason is now justifiably and – mercifully for Raider fans – riding pine.
There is only one very slim chance JaJason will be a Raider next year. That’s if Bruce completely tanks or gets injured again and JaJason plays well in relief.
Not likely.
We’ve seen the end of JaMoron. We’ve almost positively seen the end of JaJason as a Raider as well.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am
We all know Grads gives us the better offense. Cambell gives us wins, it’s almost as if our defense plays harder knowing our offense won’t do much in the passing game with Cambell. With Grads in the game our penalties are higher and our D plays with less intensity. We are pretty healthy now, and Grads has not had the opportunity to play with a healthy run game and offensive line. If he blows this and we lose, then Grads was not the better of the 2 QB’s. Just the more hyper of the 2.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Or maybe, coaches lie all the time in press conferences and you can’t read much into it.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:14 am
45.djohnnyg Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
NO to Cam Newton. It’s Jamarcus and Campbell all over again.
Newton is slow and does these little dance moves to avoid the hits. He’ll get creamed doing that in the NFL.
Remember, Jamarcus was a GREAT college QB too.
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True to a T. Newton would be a doom for this team. Has tremendous baggage. Great college does not make a great pro. But not to worry, he’ll be gone before we pick.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
The commentators on Fox are talking about how Falcons RG Harvey Dahl has a reputation for being nasty on the field. He’s a free agent after this season.
Come to Oakland, Harvey. We need you.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Raiderman, Campbell should have started last week. I agree. He won 3 straight. He was the hot hand. But he proved against Pittsburgh that he is not an NFL QB. He was scurred on the first drive. Deer in the headlights, and wasn’t even sacked yet. Pittsburgh has a good defense and it’s designed to confuse the good QBs, and INTIMIDATE the ones who don’t even belong in the league. Campbell falls in the second category. He was scared all day. Gradkwowski comes in and moves us right into scoring position. On his first play he sees pressure and keep his cool, dodging the sack and making a play for a first down. He was facing the sane defensive squad that Campbell was. Same exotic blitz packages. And he kept his cool.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Raiderman, Campbell should have started last week. I agree. He won 3 straight. He was the hot hand. But he proved against Pittsburgh that he is not an NFL QB. He was scurred on the first drive. Deer in the headlights, and wasn’t even sacked yet. Pittsburgh has a good defense and it’s designed to confuse the good QBs, and INTIMIDATE the ones who don’t even belong in the league. Campbell falls in the second category. He was scared all day. Gradkwowski comes in and moves us right into scoring position. On his first play he sees pressure and keep his cool, dodging the sack and making a play for a first down. He was facing the sane defensive squad that Campbell was. Same exotic blitz packages. And he kept his cool.
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… and then he made a bonehead decision that led to a costly interception.
Neither of these guys should be considered long-term options for the Raiders.
I’m glad Cable is at least smart enough to ride the hot hand until the guy falters. We’re stuck with Juice Campkowski until the end of the season, so Cable needs to play them off each other to get the most out of them.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Grads has happy feet and no accuracy. But I do agree he gives us the best chance. We just don’t run the ball as much when he plays, we need to limit him 25 attempts. Run the ball and go playaction but RUN THE FREAKIN BALL!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Newton is a combination of Vince Young and Campbell. Good enough to be a backup maybe, but don’t be fooled.
There are definitely worse guys than Newton a team could pick and I’m not saying he’s bad. He’ll just get killed in the NFL. Especially with an inferior O-Line.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:22 am
DMac is going to get back on track today, hopefully. He needs to carry this team.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am
All of a sudden that date with Jacksonville is looking more ominous.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:26 am
I think with DHB back we can clear out and get the underneath routes that play in Grads favor. Also help our running game to the outside have DB’s playing off.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:27 am
but 53% career completion ratings do not make it in the NFL. End of story.
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Funny because that is Campbell’s completion % this season.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Fix the OL
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Improve our Defense (this D can be special)
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Improve the Coaching staff (we need new WRs & OL coaches, and a new DC)
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Great Team!!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
YoungAmerican Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am
… and then he made a bonehead decision that led to a costly interception.
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What bonehead decision? We’re down by a lot with only a quarter to play. He had to force something. He was still worlds cooler than Campbell. Campbell was shaken up on the first drive, before he’d even taken a hit. Basically, he responded to the Steeler D the same way you or I would if we were just thrown out there. He looked as if he’d never played in the league before. I challenge you to give me a better assessment of Campbell’s play last Sunday. I’ll wait.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Not sure how benching Campbell is “throwing him under the bus”.
He has the 29th ranked QB rating and the 32nd ranked % percentage, all the while having a top 10 defense and a top 3 rushing offense.
He has arguably been the worst QB in the entire league!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
JC’s cmp % avg for career is higher than Bruce, but Bruce didn’t start as many games as JC. JC looks better due to stats, but we should only consider this season stats. You can’t compare their prev stats. IMO
November 28th, 2010 at 10:33 am
November 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Besides, I doubt Cable did anything but sign-off on the move.
This is all Hue Jackson making this switch, just like he made the switch against the Rams.
Bingo!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Completion % does not mean much if you continually are at the bottom of the league in yards per pass attempt.
What good is a 4 yard completion on 3rd and 8?
November 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am
What bonehead decision? We’re down by a lot with only a quarter to play. He had to force something. He was still worlds cooler than Campbell. Campbell was shaken up on the first drive, before he’d even taken a hit. Basically, he responded to the Steeler D the same way you or I would if we were just thrown out there. He looked as if he’d never played in the league before. I challenge you to give me a better assessment of Campbell’s play last Sunday. I’ll wait.
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Did I say Campbell was getting it done? No. Obviously he wasn’t. Nor was any other Raiders player last weekend.
Grads doesn’t get a free pass for his INTs. Sorry, mistakes are mistakes, and both Raider QBs make a lot of them.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:36 am
MR
Heres one you missed
33.La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I fear we wont win at all
November 28th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Funny because that is Campbell’s completion % this season.
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Funny, because he was 60+% before he got to Oakland. Kind of implies that there are other issues with the Raiders offense as well, doesn’t it?
(Hint: it’s the position that the Raiders drafted for in the first round of 2009.)
November 28th, 2010 at 10:38 am
They are both AVG at best this season. I don’t understand why You People like one more than the other.
They both Suck this season.
-Bruce throws a lot of picks, low cmp %, but he has great energy, reacts faster, and gets the WR more involved.
-JC takes a long time to read and react, can’t avoid the rush that well, but he doesn’t throw a lot of picks, and he has a good cmp % (when he plays well).
November 28th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Jerry, your the best…
November 28th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Lets get DMC and Bush cranked up and churning out TDs today people…
Cut it loose and finish every play and we’ll be fine…
November 28th, 2010 at 10:39 am
The double standard with some of you guys is hilarious. Campbell throws a near-pick with 30 seconds left in the game at KC, and he was “lucky”. Grads throws a real pick down by 17 in the third quarter, and he’s just trying to get things done.
Neither of these guys are good enough to carry the team. Both of them need everyone around them executing in order to consistently make plays. That’s what needs to happen today.
The Raiders win as a team and lose as a team. That’s the bottom line.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Bruce’s completion % as a Raider last year is exactly the same (54.7) as Campbell’s this year.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Fix The OL!!!
Improve OLB and CB on Defense!!!
Get a new DC, OL Coach, and a WRs coach!! Who the …. is Ssnjay Lal?!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:42 am
What’s a new DC going to do? Is he going to run Al’s defense any differently? I doubt it.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Get a New LBs coach too!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing a new DBs coach, or a new WR coach (badly needed if Murph and DHB are ever going to turn the corner and be reliable players).
Marshall seems to have more leeway to do what he wants on defense than any DC the Raiders have had in the last decade. He should stick around.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
“Who the …. is Ssnjay Lal?”
LOL I don’t know. It sounds Indian, and that might explain a lot. Indians aren’t known to be best competitors. Look at India’s abysmal Olympic history if you doubt me. Unbelievable for the world’s second most populous nation.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
A lot of teams play man, and depend on their front 4 to create the rush. We need a DC who can call better plays, and knows how to adjust to offenses.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:47 am
76.Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:32 am
JC’s cmp % avg for career is higher than Bruce, but Bruce didn’t start as many games as JC. JC looks better due to stats, but we should only consider this season stats. You can’t compare their prev stats. IMO
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IMO Campbell doesn’t take as many risks which would make his completion % better. If a Qb only throws the “safe” passes and the team goes nowhere than it’s not good. Gradkowski tries to make things happen and doesn’t worry about his stats. I’m not excited about Grads. that much either. He has a lot of flaws and takes too many chances sometimes but at least he gives us a chance now.
Teams dare you (like Pitt.) to beat them with JC. They don’t lose any sleep worrying if JC is gonna beat them with his “arm”. They know that you just have to pressure him and he’ll get rattled and fold.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:47 am
ROFLMAO RT. That’s true. I never thought about it like that.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:47 am
A lot of teams play man, and depend on their front 4 to create the rush. We need a DC who can call better plays, and knows how to adjust to offenses.
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But only one defense plays man exclusively, particularly in the Cover 0.
Defense did a great job adjusting late in the game against San Diego. But the defense always reverts back to the same Cover 0 base defense. That’s how it is with the Raiders, and as long as Al is around that’s always how it will be.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Cable’s m.o is blame the qb. He always complains about the qb’s but i have never heard him acknowledge lousy oline play.
Our qbs have been pedestrian in some games good in others. Our oline has been terrible for 9 of ten games. This is why the qbs have been presdured hurried and even knocked out of games.
Another thing about it campbell and cable dont have tge same time table. Cable has a few games left to make a case to stay. Campbell is already on board for next year, my guess is campbell will out last cable. Only gradkowski is married to cable. When cable is nonlonger an nfl head coach, grads will never be in the running for a starters job again.
Cable your out of here at seasons end, cant say that i will miss you.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:51 am
YoungAmerican its not like the Raiders only run man with a 4 man rush. They occasionally blitz Wimbley and when they play zone, they almost always get burned.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:52 am
91.RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:45 am
“Who the …. is Ssnjay Lal?”
LOL I don’t know. It sounds Indian, and that might explain a lot. Indians aren’t known to be best competitors. Look at India’s abysmal Olympic history if you doubt me. Unbelievable for the world’s second most populous nation.
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Yeah, and if I see one more doofus named “Patel” playing RB on my kids t-ball team I’m gonna have a breakdown. Little un-competitive jack asses.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Djohnnyg,
The “safe” passes can help us win, if we run well and play good D. Bruce has a lot of TOs, and takes too many chances.
I think we can win with JC or Bruce, if we fix the OL, and improve the D and the coaching staff.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Our oline has been terrible for 9 of ten games.
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LMAO!!! Complete nonsense.
When you rush for 200 yards and get 500 total, the O-line is dominating.
I think our O-line has had some pass protection issues in a handful of games, but otherwise our O-line has been way better than our WR’s and QB’s for the season.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I agree. Cable needs to Fix the OL. Cooper C and Satele need to be replaced!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:56 am
This is not about jc vs grad. Both have struggled & im sure both would play better behind a solid o- line. I have never heard of a guy getting benched under these circumstances. 3 game win streak, lose a road game to a superbowl contender and your done? The next guy comes in off the bench also plays poorly & he gets the start?!?!?
Cable hoping grads can save his job again is pure folly.
Trestman for 2011
November 28th, 2010 at 10:57 am
# Guy Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:51 am
YoungAmerican its not like the Raiders only run man with a 4 man rush. They occasionally blitz Wimbley and when they play zone, they almost always get burned.
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Those blitzes are something that we’ve finally seen popping up this year.
So what’s the problem? People complain about the vanilla defense, and then they complain when the defense gets burned going to different zone looks. Then the Raiders don’t blitz enough, but when they blitz and leave a LB manned up against a WR it’s bad playcalling.
It’s all about execution. You can run any scheme you want on defense as long as you can execute it. The defense has played better than it has in years this season. They’re changing their looks a little bit and getting more pressure. The only problem is inconsistent execution, which has more to do with the young pieces on this defense than it does with the DC. Because as we all know, if you come to the Raiders as a defensive coordinator your base scheme is always going to be the defense Al wants.
Al seems to be giving Marshall a little leeway to work with the defense, and it has paid off with more sacks and a better run defense. That’s what matters. A new DC isn’t going to do any better than this, unless Al gives them complete freedom to implement any scheme they want. That’s just not going to happen.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:57 am
When you rush for 200 yards and get 500 total, the O-line is dominating.
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So you think it’s 8 terrible games instead of 9?
November 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
whats up nation? new to this blog hope them raiders can get by miami today. but I sure think we need a quarterback other than the two we have.
November 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Mistic1,
How many times does Hue Jackson and Tom Cable have to say for you to understand that this is not Cable’s call?
Hue Jackson made this switch today, get it?
November 28th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Tim Brown for WR coach
November 28th, 2010 at 11:01 am
I also think Walker to slow to play outside. He needs to be moved inside to RG.
IMHO Veldheer should be moved to RT next season (can’t handle speed), and we should develop B Campbell to be our LT next season. Campbell is the most athletic OL we have, and we need to take advantage of his talents. I can’t see the logic from playing him inside at RG.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Jfb,
the oline is awful. Only the denver game had halfway decent pass protection. This is one of the worst pass protection units in football, & everyone knows it. Campbell & grads have been running for their lives. Even vs sea & kc the line was terrible in the first half. This wby our qbs make so many plays on the move.
Run blocking is only ok, not good. The talent of dmac makes it look much better than it actually is.
Pass blocking gets a grade of f- for the year.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Walk is too slow…
November 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
O,
Why do you think guys like Goethel and Stevie Brown can get on the field, but Bruce Campbell can’t?
Ford, Houston, and Veldheer are all getting snaps too.
If Campbell were ready to contribute, I have to imagine he would be on the field.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Hey….Fatt Kidd is back!
November 28th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I’m convinced Bruce Campbell will be changing tires in about 3 years.
Don’t think that kid has “it”, and let’s face it, if Al didn’t draft him in the 4th round where would he have went? 5th? 6th?
5th and 6th round picks are not that uncommon to never make it.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
YA-thats just O.He wants to fire everyone every other week.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Mistic1,
How many times does Hue Jackson and Tom Cable have to say for you to understand that this is not Cable’s call?
Hue Jackson made this switch today, get it?
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Whether it’s purely Hue Jax, or Cable and Hue Jax making the switch, the most important thing to remember is Al Davis is consenting to or approving the switch, even if he’s doing so somewhat reluctantly.
Bet your bottom dollar Al would veto any decision to bench JaJason, if Al hadn’t concluded what any non-myopic observer of the Raids already realized long ago — JaJason sucks.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Jfb,
Cable is the head coach, hu jack doesnt do anything without consent and input from cable.
Cable is on the hot seat, is hu jack? Cable must win now, we dont know what happens to hu-jack when cable is gone.
Cable keeps trying this hocus pocus qb switch garbage, it has been exposed.
Who ever says replace the qb after the last four games, for a career back up that has also struggled mightly this year should be fired at seasons end.
Juggling qb when you have an up and comer or proven vet is one thing, we are not in the boat. Its spineless and shows a lack of leadership.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:11 am
So if only this years stats count than Campbell still the edge. He has a slightly higher comp % and still has the edge in TD/Int ratio.
The red flag for me is Bruce has never, in his career, been better than a 54% completion passer. Also, Campbell is in his first year with this team, these receivers, these lineman, and this OC – so he gets more leniency in my mind. Bruce has more familiarity with this offense, and way more familiarity with the personnel and he is still a 53% passer with more INTs than TDs.
O-line play must improve if either will win this year. This offense is carried on McFadden’s shoulders.
Given time though Jason will get better. Given time Bruce will continue to be what he has always been and will loose this job.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:12 am
I’m convinced Bruce Campbell will be changing tires in about 3 years.
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Those Maryland guys take a little longer to develop. Year 3 he should starting for us somewhere on the Oline.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:15 am
hu jack doesnt do anything without consent and input from cable.
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I don’t know about that.
It’s well documented that Cable’s duties are pretty much TO coordinator and PR guy.
Hue Jackson has COMPLETE control of the offense including who plays, and he was given that power by Al Davis. That is on record.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Cable is on the hot seat, is hu jack? Cable must win now, we dont know what happens to hu-jack when cable is gone.
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Who says Cable is on the hot seat? You, that’s about it.
Cable, Hue and Al Davis are focused on winning the division, and Hue is focused on HIS offense. Of course Cable consents it, and than Al signs off on it.
But do you think Cable is going to force Bruce on Hue? LMAO!!! Hue was the one who said that he wanted to bench Jason earlier this year.
Regardless, Jason has been benched, again, and I am sure Hue was all for it, based on his track record this season and his comments.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Given time though Jason will get better. Given time Bruce will continue to be what he has always been and will loose this job.
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And what job has Campbell been able to keep?
Last I checked, he was given away this offseason, and benched by his new team.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:22 am
There are NO good games on right now!
November 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Jacksonville rolling the Giants in NY, lol.
We better be ready to play those guys!
November 28th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Mystic,quit your biotching and support the team.The coaches made a decision.You may not like it,but you have no say so support it.If things turn out like you believe you can then come here and present your arguments as to why they were wrong.You complained about how AIG was acting last week and you are doing the exact same thing this week.Root for the uniform instead of the name.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Let us just support Bruce today and know with the right play calling, he can chew up Miami.
I for one will be excited to see a take charge QB and see the energy level where it should be.
Oakland 41
Miami 10
November 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I’m convinced Bruce Campbell will be changing tires in about 3 years.
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If true, that’ll be TWO Campbells out of the NFL.
And if Bruce lasts 3 years in the NFL, JaJason will have two years seniority over him at the tire shop.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:26 am
There are NO good games on right now!
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AMEN to that.
Always the downfall to Turkey day week, those 3 games rob the morning games of some of it’s luster.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Why if given time will JC get better,yet what you see is what you get from BG?How do you know if given time BG won’t continue to improve and JC will always be the same guy?
November 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Afternoon NATION!!!!
OAK 28
MIA 10
Under two hours I cant wait!!! Its nice living in Ore DTV has Sunday ticket I get ALL Raiders Games!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Jfb,
hu jacj must get approval from the head coach. Not sure what you have been reading, hu jack goes to cable not davis.
Davis hasnt said cable is on the hot seat, but his win loss record does. Many thought he was nearly fired last year. Di you think he keeps the job with double digit losses again?
Does he keep his job if he wins less than 8 games?
Davis history says no. My guess based on historical patterns of my team.
Cable is desperate and he looks like it.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
COLIN KAEPERNICK
November 28th, 2010 at 11:29 am
You guys argue so much about how well you know QB’s but I noticed a lot of you Bruce haters dont dare make any prediction.
This is simple. If you think you know both QB’s well enough than effin make your prediction like I did last week. I made a prediction last week on JC’s play and knew I would be right.
If you think Grad is garbage, then step up and show us your football knowledge. Make a prediction before the game and let’s see if you know anything about football. Put up or shut up already.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Di you think he keeps the job with double digit losses again?
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Well of course not, but that isn’t about to happen is it?
If we go 8-8, I think Cable will be about 3rd or 4th in the COY award, and most certainly be back.
And when it comes to personnel decisions on the offense, Hue makes all the calls. Now if it is in regards to an O-lineman, than Cable will be more involved.
Changing the QB? 110% Hue Jackson’s decision, and Cable will say yes either way, IMO.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:32 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 11:27 am
COLIN KAEPERNICK
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4th or 5th round maybe.
I think some teams will try to make him a WR though.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Without time, Defense, and spec team, Bruce was able to generate 20+ first downs per game and avg 24 points a game. But some of you think he will be worst with an improved line, D and spec team? wow great logic there.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
AIG you called last week. I remember that.
However, it goes in the “True but Useless” (TBU) file.
You were right, do you need others to be wrong??? You actually keep score on right and wrong?
LMN, warum bist du so schade Heute? Wir sind Der Raiders, nicht nur einen Person.
I don’t care if today is the return of Wade Wilson and James Jett again catches the winning TD, I want a win.
Let the old ladies bicker over their QB of choice…I hope we run the Wild Cat all day and neither QB starts.
Go Raiders.
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November 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Lefty,
what are you talking about??? How am i not supporting my team? I do support my team, its not about the qb, that was over 7-8 weeks ago.
I am however pointing out what is the biggest issue, like i have all season long. Cable and his oline stink out loud.
Campbell & grads are good enough to beat miami.
I dont like panic stricken head coaches, that cant make a decision an attempt to dodge blame and throw players under the bus.
I dont like cable
November 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Cable is desperate and he looks like it.
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Ok, he’s desperate to win and knows he has to to keep his job. Then all he is doing is making the move that he feels gives the team the best chance to win. I don’t see what’s wrong with that kind of “desperation”.
Should he start Campbell even though it gives us lesser chance of winning just so we have consistency? Winning is what counts in ANY league.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
I trust Tom Cable.
He has had us going in the right direction since he replaced Kiffin, culminating in us being pertinant and in the thick of the division race this season.
He is not much of an X’s and O’s guy, but he is perfect in his role now.
I hope he is around for another 4-5 years.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
The problem with a lot of people on this blog is they are so emotionally involved with the team their bias becomes unbelievable. Ridiculous, really. This ain’t the only team in the league workin their tails off to be good. We have a young team right now, that has the potential to be great, but with average quarterbacks and a terrible pass protecting o-line how far can they really go? My only problem with the coaching is they aren’t stubborn enough with the run game.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Low Down,
This is a Sports blog. People blog on here as if they know football real well but I dont hear them making any prediction. Everything is always hindsight 20/20. It’s simple. If you think you know WTF you’re talking about then step out a limb and make a prediction. When I feel strongly about a certain subject I wont hesitate to put my name on it.
If you truly care about winning, then try understanding why we win and why we lose. It helps.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Saw Cable giving a Russian whore a tonsil massage outside 1 Market in SF…on a Saturday night prior to a home game.
Dude may have game, but it isn’t football.
Hope he opens a import bride bizzness and leaves football to Hue.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Al is the one who is desperate. If he as any sense left, he’ll “stay the course” and leave well enough alone. He wants two more SB’s, well this is the closest thing we have gotten to in 8 years. Mess it up and we tank again for who knows how long.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Mystic-you are so full of it.It isn’t about the QB.That is all it is about with you.If Campbell,Russell,Culpepper,Brooks,Lefewitz,Gerrard,or a few others were the QB you’d be happy.You hate Gradkowski and I doubt it has anything to do with his ability to play QB.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:47 am
aig-raiders Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 11:29 am
You guys argue so much about how well you know QB’s but I noticed a lot of you Bruce haters dont dare make any prediction.
This is simple. If you think you know both QB’s well enough than effin make your prediction like I did last week. I made a prediction last week on JC’s play and knew I would be right.
If you think Grad is garbage, then step up and show us your football knowledge. Make a prediction before the game and let’s see if you know anything about football. Put up or shut up already.
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I think Bruce will play well. Honestly, the only concern I have about Bruce is that his shoulder still isn’t 100% and some rust.
I’m on record as believing that Grads will develop into an upper tier NFL QB.
I place his ceiling somewhere between Matt Hassleback and Drew Brees level.
Yup, I said it. I think Grads can be close to Drew Brees.
As far as no good games being played right now…GB/ATL ain’t half bad.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Yeah, but I don’t remember what the losers say, even when they are “right”.
Where as you, LMN, and the others man up when your prediction goes sown in flames….keeping score is lost on me because that knobs got nothing worth listening to.
Kinda like beating on the boy in class that eats paste…sad and easy.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Off to the Booster Club. Enjoy the game.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:51 am
No Ware, Johnson, Nick Miller or Jarvis Moss (among others).
Thank god Asomugha is back.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Gotta wonder what the point in Nick Miller being inactive is. Seems like the WR needs all the help it can get.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
Lowdown,
If I told you that there’s no WMD in Iraq, does that make me unpatriotic and rooting for America to lose. Truths are truths. Dont hate the messenger. I told you the truth last week and you seem to have a problem with handling the truth. Get a life.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
WR corps*
November 28th, 2010 at 11:54 am
ALWAYS ROOTING FOR YOUR OAKLAND RAIDERS, still better late than never, RAIDERS 54 phins 14! GO OUR BELOVED RAIDERS!
November 28th, 2010 at 11:54 am
So i guess JLH is back to returning punts.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Kinda like beating on the boy in class that eats paste…sad and easy.
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Actually JC was thought to be the man after the 3 game win streak. He was the class president in this blog during that span. I was one of the few who dared spoke up about JC the fraud while taking on the entire JC fan club in here. So get facts straight. You can’t handle the truth.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Yup, Asomugha being in the game is comforting…also, love hearing the announcers jack up his name. B@stards…
Huff has gotta learn to jam the receiver off the line…looks like Stevie B. and Mitchell will see a lot of time on the field.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
You actually keep score on right and wrong?
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Not only that, he keeps an archive of what people say on here so he can pull it out later. It’s juvenile crap.
Aig is a total effin TOOL.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Everytime I watch another team play, I’m reminded how RIDICULOUS this QB discussion is.
When the Oline doesn’t block, and WRs drop balls, all QBs look bad.
See Eli Manning right now, and the last couple weeks.
When the QB has time to throw and decent WRs, well you know the outcome.
See winning teams right now, lol.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:59 am
AIG, think you missed my point.
I agree with you.
And yes, I have watched you beat on the JC fan club since the start. You have never wavered and you predictions have been right.
Beating on the JC fan club kids, however, is as easy as beating on Jerry’s Kids: too easy.
Unsure that qualifies me for not handling the truth…enjoy the game.
November 28th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Lefty,
i cant follow your post at all. It cant be about the qb, they have both struggled. The one constant this year is piss poor pass protection. Cable has had two years to upgrade the front and has failed miserably.
Im not sure why you posted a list of qb’s i dont see what they have in common. Im not a fan of some of those guys at all.
You are stuck on jc vs grad. I would rather look at the real issues, its not qb
November 28th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
So i guess JLH is back to returning punts.
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Miller has been terrible.
Why we can’t just find a decent return guy who won’t field the ball at the 5, and can make an occasional 15 yd return is beyond me.
I really don’t understand why Ford isn’t the PR guy actually.
November 28th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Is anyone else watching the Falcons-Packers game? Watch RG Harvey Dahl of the Falcons get down the field and block for his running back.
I’m not sure who brought him up as a possible FA signing, but I’m glad they did. This guy looks like a big-time player, and would be a massive upgrade over Carlisle.
November 28th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Texas,
If he is a tool, then he is a consistent tool…reminds me of George W. in a way…
November 28th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I don’t even need to keep an archive for this one . . .
Aig-Raiders Says:
Well, it looks like things are going the way I wished for.
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The key word there is “wished”. You are not the just the messenger, as you just stated. You wanted the Raiders to fail while Jason was at quarterback. It’s right there in your own words for the entire world to see.
Only a fraud of a fan would “wish” for his team’s failure because he hates the quarterback.
November 28th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
163.RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I don’t even need to keep an archive for this one . . .
Aig-Raiders Says:
Well, it looks like things are going the way I wished for.
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The key word there is “wished”. You are not the just the messenger, as you just stated. You wanted the Raiders to fail while Jason was at quarterback. It’s right there in your own words for the entire world to see.
Only a fraud of a fan would “wish” for his team’s failure because he hates the quarterback.
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LOL! ouch, exposed.
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