Gradkowski re-injures shoulder
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 28th, 2010 at 5:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski re-injured his throwing shoulder in a 33-17 loss to the Miami Dolphins and rendered the Raiders’ quarterback issue meaningless for at least the next few weeks.
Gradkowski said it felt much like it did after the San Diego game, a third-degree separation which cost him five weeks.
Raiders coach Tom Cable said after the game the plan was always to go back to Gradkowski once he was completely healthy.
Much more to come later . . .
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November 28th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
LOL started a guy who wasnt 100 pct….kudos to Cable and Hue
November 28th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Raiders coach Tom Cable said after the game the plan was always to go back to Gradkowski once he was completely healthy.
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There you go Teabag, why don’t you pay me now.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Wow! I’m the only member so far at Redneck Raider’s chat room, and he bans me! There’s no one else there! That’s no way to treat your only friend.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Guys, join redneckraider’s chat room. I feel bad for him. Nobody’s there. I tried to join, he won’t let me.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
cinco
November 28th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Some guys just get hurt too often and Gradkowski is one of those guys. It has nothing to do with laying your body on the line or being tough and taking hits. Some guys just don’t manage things right and end u hurt every year. Football, baseball, baseketball, etc…. every sport has them
November 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Wow! I’m the only member so far at Redneck Raider’s chat room, and he bans me! There’s no one else there! That’s no way to treat your only friend.
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I don’t need attention to from people on this blog to feel good about myself, just providing a service. If anyone wants to be able to talk Raiders without RMR’s BS… a venue exists:
http://tinychat.com/ibabuzz
November 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
It was obvious the guy wasnt 100%. hes never had alot of zip on his throws but today was pretty bad even for him. underthrow after underthrow. poor guy! but thats the way of the NFL…rush players back too soon.(look at miller and Nnamdi still not 100% themselves, more of a liability)
November 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Just goes to show how the coaches have no faith in Campbell. Season is done.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Gradkowski was set up to fail today and Al should be ashamed of himself.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
18:30 time of possession?
12 rushing attempts for 16 yards?
Unreliable special teams coverage at best?
Still can’t decide which mediocre Qb should start nearly 2/3 of the way through the season?
Really? Seriously?
Coach gotta go. Before it gets worse. Go with Hue and see what he can do.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Redneck, has anyone joined yet? When I was in there for the brief second before you banned me, it said I was the only person there, plus you. I just wanted to say hi, wish you luck. And I still do. Good luck, buddy. Hope you get a few people in there. I said you would get 5. I think you can.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Ryan Mallet? Nathan Enderle? Christian Ponder? Jake Locker?
November 28th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
So. 5-11. Nnamdi & Seymore leave after the season. Al franchises the longsnapper and promotes Sanjaya to HC. This has the makings of the team of the decades!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
TALK 2MORRO!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
CHARGELESS NEEED TO LOSE TONIGHT!!! LETS GO COLTS
November 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
IAS-exactly,so why not go with Boller.He has had success in this league.He couldn’t be any worse than either of the other 2.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Coach gotta go. Before it gets worse. Go with Hue and see what he can do.
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Sure, why not at this juncture. At least we won’t have to interview James Lofton again to satisfy the Rooney Rule. 6-10 it is.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
2 weeks ago the Chargeless had homo wristbands made saying “this is my division” BS!!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Predicable defense. easy to diagnose for even an average qb like Henne. we have a habit of making guys like that into instant peyton mannings.
This team is lucky to have murphy and Ford especially. There’s not one other WR woth keeping.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Bruce Gradkowski re-injured his throwing arm in the Raiders’ Week 12 loss to the Dolphins and is expected to miss Week 13.
Jason Campbell is expected to resume starting at San Diego. Gradkowski was ineffective against the Dolphins before the late-game injury, completing just 17-of-32 passes for 252 yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions. The initial shoulder injury cost Gradkowski five games, so if this is the same injury we may not see him again until Week 17 at the soonest. Nov. 28 – 8:24 pm et
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
November 28th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Just watch Dr.Manning go to work…
November 28th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Hue as HC and Trestman as OC?
The more dire need is a new WRs coach, and a new DBs coach now that Willie Brown’s role with the team has lessened.
It’s a shame Clancy Pendergast didn’t stick around to coach the secondary.
Chaz Schilens for WR coach..?
November 28th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Vittorio Tafur is a douchebag. I bet he never even played ball like Sanjay Lal
November 28th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Sanjay for president.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
YA-Pat Devlin,Nick Koles,Enderlie,or Keaperneck.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
IAS-exactly,so why not go with Boller.He has had success in this league.He couldn’t be any worse than either of the other 2.
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I could live with that. He seems to be a mixture of both Grads and Campbell. Maybe someone can tell Carrie to withhold sex until he gets a win. That should fire him up.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Isnt Sanjay from “american idol”???
November 28th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Lefty,
We lost the chess match again today. Boeller is not going to help anymore than the other 2 QBs.
What are we even trying to do out there?
McFadden ends up in man time after time? Like Ware was last week?
We need a new coaching staff from top to bottom!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Might as well go with Bruce campbell and Barnes on the right side. they cannot possibly play worse. Seriously.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Time to watch some real football teams. Just dream of what we could do if we had PManning.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
We were destroyed at home on both sides of the ball. We have NO QB, and Nnamdi sucks as usual. Well, they gave us 11 games before I threw in the towel this season. A win over Denver may be all that’s left in 2010. Goshdarnnlsdfklwasit!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
as much as i hate to say this firing cable is only gonna get us another dumbass, fire al and maybe just maybe we can turn the corner.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Hue Jack sucks as an OC so I guess that qualifies him to be HC.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Chess match? Please… Cable can barely play Checkers…
November 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
The Hue for HC talk HAS to be a joke, right?
November 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Paging Dr.Manning!!! we need you to do an autopsy on this overrated Chargeless D
November 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# RedneckRaider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
http://tinychat.com/ibabuzz
I’ll be up and down from computer (cooking dinner) but if anyone wants to talk about the game, the raiders, bruce vs campbell, whatever, come on in (use your nickname from here please?). I’ll do what I can to ban/kick trolls and general haters, all other discussion welcome.
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so its your cyber version of a gated community?
if they disagree with the loudest or the mob, they outta there?
LOL.. no thanks I think I’ll stay here =)
fact is, all come crawling back, its have been tried 15-20 times, and funny enough it never succeeds.. its always 4 grumpy guys that only wants to hear their own opinion…
November 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
next person that tells me Gradkowski is a starting QB is a f’n idiot.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Can’t run a franchise with a physically challenged owner and no GM. Not in the NFL in 2010! Sorry, but we have the most dysfunctional franchise in the WORLD!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
The Hue for HC talk HAS to be a joke, right?
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I second that emotion.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Get ready for some dome stupid same old crap excuses with cable please Jerry don’t do a q&a with cable. I’m getting tired of listening to him. He’s clueless.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Grads looked like crap… less than 100%? set up to fail? it doesn’t matter why he looked so bad, it matters that he sucked a$$… JC sucks, but hopefully he’ll get it togther… otherwise, we’re screwed
November 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
7-0 Colts!!! lol
November 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
JHill-Campbell has proven he isn’t capable.So has Grads.What do we have to lose trying Boller?
November 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# RedneckRaider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
http://tinychat.com/ibabuzz
I’ll be up and down from computer (cooking dinner) but if anyone wants to talk about the game, the raiders, bruce vs campbell, whatever, come on in (use your nickname from here please?). I’ll do what I can to ban/kick trolls and general haters, all other discussion welcome.
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so its your cyber version of a gated community?
if they disagree with the loudest or the mob, they outta there?
LOL.. no thanks I think I’ll stay here =)
fact is, all come crawling back, its have been tried 15-20 times, and funny enough it never succeeds.. its always 4 grumpy guys that only wants to hear their own opinion…
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1. I’m not trying to censor anyone, just filter out trolls (which RMR clearly is).
2. I’m not trying to pull people away from here, or leave myself, just providing an additional communication outlet. No crawling back, because I won’t be leaving.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
So what are the reasons to keep Cable? I’m all ears…
November 28th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Anyone who thinks that Gradkowski is the answer is delusional. I would take JC every day and twice on Sunday compared to what I saw out there today. If Jacoby doesn’t make one of the best catches of the year – we would have only put 10 points on the board. In order for him to see, they have to move the pocket and generally to the right.
He is very good at coming in off the bench because he is a really cool party trick – move the pocket and throw downfield. However any NFL team worth its salt can prepare for that because he can’t throw downfield from 2/3rds of the offensive backfield. The rest of his throws were short passes in the flat and 15 yard tosses.
Jason Campbell isn’t the solution, but he makes us far more competitive than the product that was put out there today.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
jmcclain Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Get ready for some dome stupid same old crap excuses with cable please Jerry don’t do a q&a with cable. I’m getting tired of listening to him. He’s clueless.
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Jerry can do a Q&A with Hue who will say he got outcoached, outgame-planned and accept the blame for the offensive ineptitude. All well and good, but he’s still useless. Even the Niners didn’t want him for X’s sake.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
He makes a good cheerleader??
November 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
One more note: All of you Miami fans can send holiday cards to Walter McFadden, who was absolutely schooled on third down.
I noticed we played a lot of cover 2 (read ZONE), but it didn’t work so well. This was definitely a big change from our normal scheme – I would like to know what happened.
As far as our run D. I can’t completely go off on that given the complete disparity in time of possession.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Chaz Schilens for WR coach..?
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lmao nice
November 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
If we are going to run a game plan like we ran today,Boller would be better than BG and couldn’t possibly be worse than JC.I know one thing,he wouldn’t be under throwing almost every pass he attempted.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
RedneckRaider (The RealMaddenRaider-Hater) Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
# RedneckRaider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
http://tinychat.com/ibabuzz
I’ll be up and down from computer (cooking dinner) but if anyone wants to talk about the game, the raiders, bruce vs campbell, whatever, come on in (use your nickname from here please?). I’ll do what I can to ban/kick trolls and general haters, all other discussion welcome.
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so its your cyber version of a gated community?
if they disagree with the loudest or the mob, they outta there?
LOL.. no thanks I think I’ll stay here =)
fact is, all come crawling back, its have been tried 15-20 times, and funny enough it never succeeds.. its always 4 grumpy guys that only wants to hear their own opinion…
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1. I’m not trying to censor anyone, just filter out trolls (which RMR clearly is).
2. I’m not trying to pull people away from here, or leave myself, just providing an additional communication outlet. No crawling back, because I won’t be leaving.
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Also, post here with your name in chat if you don’t mind. RMR keeps rejoining with new names, pretending to have conversation, then going off on rants about how he hopes the Raiders lose every game for the rest of the season.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Did anyone join redneck Raider’s chat room? I hope so. Feel bad for him.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
This team is still top 10 in scoring on the year, don’t know how much that’s Hue fault. But anyways I said before the game we have average quarterbacks and a o-line that can’t pass block. The line wasn’t awful today, but our other average quarterback sure was. And I know it was his first game all year but MAN, Walter Mcfadden I’m calling you out brotha.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Jon Gruden could be making a return to coaching — but not in the NFL.
In the 24 hours since the University of Miami fired head coach Randy Shannon, multiple stories have named Gruden as a strong candidate to take over the job.
According to the Sun Sentinel, Gruden initiated contact with the University of Miami to say he wants to be the school’s next coach, and the school told Gruden that the interest is mutual.
University of Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt says he wants to hire a coach who can make Miami “relevant” again, and Gruden, who won a Super Bowl as head coach of the Buccaneers and currently has a high profile as a Monday Night Football commentator, certainly qualifies. Hocutt also says money will not be an issue in the selection, that previous ties to the University of Miami aren’t a prerequisite for the job, and that head coaching experience is important.
Gruden hasn’t publicly expressed any desire to coach the Hurricanes, but it’s easy to see why a program that was once a national powerhouse would appeal to him. Miami has had some lean years and is just 7-5 in 2010, but the Hurricanes had five national championships and 14 seasons of double-digit victories from 1983 to 2003.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Trade DHB for Jay Cutler!!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
LOL. Redneck, just so you know, it banned my ip address, and I’m not going to reset it just for this. Takes about 5 minutes to do it right. I tried to go in right when you started it, and was banned immediately. If someone else is in their stirring it up, it must mean you have more enemies than me, buddy.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
The D sure looks bad w/o the original starters in. The Raiders just don’t have the depth they need for a deep run.
BAN THE TROLLS!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Well, time to watch two real quarterbacks play. Won’t surprise me if Chargers win and then we can be officially put out of our misery.
Good nite for now.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Lost my internet connection. Posting from phone now. Have a good night- don’t lose faith. Raider Nation
November 28th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Just don’t think it will matter much Lefty.
I still don’t believe that guys are open and the other 2 QBs just couldn’t find them. I don’t see us lining up in ways that will create matchups in our favor. I don’t see us identifying a favorable matchup and finding a way to get the ball to that person. I see us running the same basic plays every week. The Reece play isn’t going to fool anyone any more!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Oh no. Who’s going to run the chat room?
November 28th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Raiders are going backwards.
Al aint got no sack if he continues on with Cable.
Horrible offense.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Well, time to watch two real quarterbacks play. Won’t surprise me if Chargers win and then we can be officially put out of our misery.
Good nite for now.
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Real quarterbacks. What a luxury.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
WTF happened to our running game the last 2 weeks? I understand against Pittsburgh, but how did we not RUN the ball???
November 28th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Trade DHB for Jay Cutler!!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Trade DHB for T.O.’s left-over popcorn!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
If the Raiders were as stubborn with the run in real life as I am in madden they would set up their deep ball beatifully.
November 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
JHill-We had the shots deep today,BG just couldn’t get the ball there-whether he was still hurting or his arm is really just that weak.We’ve seen Campbell constantly under throw those passes.If those are the plays we are going to run,at least Boller could get the ball out there.I don’t know if he’d be any better or if it would make any difference,but I don’t see why we at least don’t give him a shot.What do we have to lose?We know what we will get with JC and it ain’t pretty!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
trade DHB for Chris Simms!!
November 28th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Trade DHB for a 4th round pick!
We get better Receivers in the 4th round (Murphy/Ford)!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Remember Cable saying we only needed 17 points…
Not when you give up over 30 points a game on Defense.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
JHill-here is my pointC.Johnson got injured so we tried Ware in his place.Ware got burnt,so we tried McFadden.Well,we’ve tried our 1st two choices at QB and they both suck.Why not try the guy next in line?
November 28th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
well, I want a QB for DHB, thats what we need right now!
because Al will never start Boller… though he should have been the starter from week one!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
You guys need to get off Murphy’s jock.He isn’t that good.He’s a good extra guy,but thats about it.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Where is Zach Miller? Where is DHB?
How can you not gameplan to get these guys involved?
Why no underneath crossing patterns?
Why no ball control on offense?
Why can’t Al Davis find a QB and a WR?
November 28th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Just start JC, he would have mad thoughs throws…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Watching the game today gave me a total headache. Defense looked strong but had way too much time on the field and tired toward the end. McFadden on Defense was getting picked on but he is going thru the normal growing pains every rookie DB experiences.
Jacoby Ford has outplayed DHB period…cut the dead weight and play the players that give you the best chance to win.
As for QB next year…we dont need the marquee names just get someone who is freaking accurate and some offensive linemen (Center, RG & RT). Pat Devlin from Delaware would be fine by me. I want sustained drives not three and out…
One Nation…Raider Nation
November 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Jacoby is sooo nice, wish we had someone to throw him the ball when he burns dudes, hes gona be a steve smith type(carolina), but faster, love it
November 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Seriously, today put the JC v Grads argument to bed. We have quarterbacks who play well in spurts, and in this league it only takes a week or two before that gets exposed. And here we are today.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Lefty,
I don’t think Campbell is as bad as some of you make him out to be. Not looking forward to seeing the 3rd string QB who even Cable or Hue doesn’t think is better than the previous 2.
I’m more interested in the adjustments, or lack thereof from Hue. Hue has GOT to find a way to get DMac, Bush, Ford, and Miller in the game at the same time.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
lol i went to highschool with Pat Devlin
November 28th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Jamarcus Russell set this team back….several years
Take your 3rd round pick, get a QB…
2011 draft
oline
QB
Dline
oline
dline
oilne
dline
November 28th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Oh yea and if anyone wanna meet Jacoby the Ford burner he gets cut up at Short Cutz in Hayward on A street. Shout out to my barber Jeff.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
#79-What makes you think that,he hasn’t made them at any other time this year?
November 28th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Just don’t think it will matter much Lefty.
I still don’t believe that guys are open and the other 2 QBs just couldn’t find them. I don’t see us lining up in ways that will create matchups in our favor. I don’t see us identifying a favorable matchup and finding a way to get the ball to that person. I see us running the same basic plays every week. The Reece play isn’t going to fool anyone any more!
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Hue jack’s playcalling has been abysmal…He gets an F last 2 games….
November 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
I’m more interested in the adjustments, or lack thereof from Hue. Hue has GOT to find a way to get DMac, Bush, Ford, and Miller in the game at the same time.
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Truth…Hue Jack has weopons doesnt have the imagination.
Fist 9 weeks we saw new stuff every game…Last 2 most we have seen is a 3 wr set…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
I watched Devlin play at Penn State before he transfered to the Blue Hens…the kid has got game and just needs a decent offensive line.
And I agree…every other team in the NFL has underneath crossing patterns and with the speed we have at WR it should a slam dunk…Cmon Hue
November 28th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
All I know is QBs who don’t have good pass protection are not good QBs.
See Peyton Manning so far.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
28.socalraider2408 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Isnt Sanjay from “american idol”???
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Nah, I think he was in Slumdog Millionaire.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
That bye week was the worst thing that ever happened to us….
November 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
See Peyton Manning so far.
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collinsworth did a quick stat on manning…He gets the ball out in under 2 seconds…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
33 pts to Miami ?????
The wildcat ????
Henne and his bum knee goes for over 300 ????
Tyler Thigpen ????
And let’s not forget the INT by McClain in the endzone or the 2 missed FG or the score would have been worse.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Marshall F
Cable F
Hue Jack F
Grads F
Seabass C
Lechler C
Dline D
Oline D
Secondary F
LB’s F
RB;’s D
WR’s F JFORD A
TE F
November 28th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
He gets the ball out in under 2 seconds…
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And he’s still getting hit and hurried.
See the 2 picks.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
JHill,we’ve played 11 games.those adjustments aren’t going to happen.I can’t agree with you concerning JC either.I don’t buy the theory that he will get better in time.He makes slow reads and takes to long deciding where he is going with the ball.I don’t know their reasoning,but I doubt Boller could be worse than what we’ve seen from BG and JC and as bad as both of them have been Boller should be given a shot.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Lefty..The throws gradkowski made today were dreadful, you have to admit that. JC has underthrown balls also, no doubt, very deep deep routes he has missed, (flee flickers both times) hard for any qb, on both pics grad threw today, they werent VERY VERY deep throws(liek the one ford stole on that corner route which should have been picked too) campbell has a way way stronger arm then grad, grad has a good short to intermediate game which also didnt show up today..IF YOUR GAME PLAN IS TO THROW DEEP(WHICH IT IS CUZ WE ARE THE RAIDERS) AND THE WR’S ARE OPEN DEEP LIKE TODAY, CAMPBELL WOULD HAVE GIVEN US A BTTER CHNACE AT MAKING THOSE THROWS PLAIN N SIMPLE.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
The wildcat ????
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Shows lack of preparation…
Henne and his bum knee goes for over 300 ????
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Shows lack of killer instinct by a DCO…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
He gets the ball out in under 2 seconds…
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And he’s still getting hit and hurried.
See the 2 picks.
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Naw 1st pick was all on him and his read… Defender faked rush, and dropped back into zone…
2nd one I didnt see…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
O-LINE=C+
D-LINE=B(WE WERE IN THE GAME BCUZ OF THEM STUFFING MIAMIS RUN 1ST N 2ND DOWN)
LBS= C+
SAFETY’S=C-
CORNERS=D
RB=D
WR=C
QB=C-
COACHING=D
PLAYCALLING=C
SP TEAMS=B-
FORD WAS THE ONLY REASON WE HAD POINTS ON THE BOARD, GRADS WAS A LIABILTY THE WHOLE FUUCING GAME!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
And he’s still getting hit and hurried.
See the 2 picks.
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Also he is playing against the no 1 D in the NFL, a team that traditionally beats him…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Simply, we need OL, QB and CB. QB soulution should be Cam Newton, we need a mobile QB and a Center in the second round. CB should be a veteran. This season is over, we need to focus on the future. Cam Newton for 2011!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
I don’t buy the theory that he will get better in time.
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That wasn’t my theory at all. I just think he has to be better than Boeller, which again might not be saying much.
IMO, the plays and play caller have not been what they should be. If Soprano and the Dolphins can break out a new gameplan for the Raiders in week 11, we should be able to do the same.
Not far behind that is the Oline and WRs.
Basically we have the same problems I’ve been talking about for a few years that you used to call Jamarcus excuses.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Jmack-have you been reading what I’ve been saying?I’m not sticking up for BG.I have repeatedly said he sucked today.You JC guys make me laugh.Criticize JC and you put people in the BG is great crowd when that isn’t the case at all.THEY ARE BOTH TERRIBLE QBs,and since we know they are both terrible,why not give a guy who has had success in the NFL an opportunity.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Better hang on fans. About to be a long December in Raiderland.
Looking like fugly days ahead.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
the 2nd pick, was touched be Barnes, so it changed direction…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Naw 1st pick was all on him and his read…
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He was being hurried. Had to step up and pull the ball back in avoiding the rush coming from his right side.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Thec…under 2 sec’s?!?!?
It takes Bruce and Jason about 4-5 sec.’s!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RIP… Leslie Nielson…
Always made me laugh….
November 28th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
I cannot believe this kid is injured again…. it’s a forgne concluion we need to get a QB but man he can’t stay healthy ONE GAME. Now it’s back to the guy we just left well IMO this is the reason we’re 5-6 way too much switching at that position. Gradkowski juts doesn’t have the arm strength to get the ball deep. One good thing is we definitely have found a bigtime playmaker in Ford.
But to honest it was the same thing that killed Campbell last week we cannot run the football. With no running game we’re dead………..period
November 28th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
That 2 sec thing is outta the shotgun.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
# The Real Ray Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Thec…under 2 sec’s?!?!?
It takes Bruce and Jason about 4-5 sec.’s!
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It takes campbell 4 secs to get sacked…
It takes grads 4 secs to throw an int…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
No more black, athletic QBs please.
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
Brees, Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Schaub, Matt Ryan, Rodgers, etc…
Sorry, but that’s how I feel.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
They were because when people were discussing the bust,you’d change the discussion to those excuses.If you’d have focused the conversation on those issues when the bust wasn’t being talked about your points would have been valid ie. someone would say-the bust sucks.You would then say our Oline needs improvement & the play calling sucks.While both of those statements were correct,you would fail to address the topic of the conversation-the bust sucked.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
# Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
No more black, athletic QBs please.
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
Brees, Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Schaub, Matt Ryan, Rodgers, etc…
Sorry, but that’s how I feel.
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ROFLMAO……hahahahahahahaha….
November 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
909..
What Leslie Nielsen!?!
No, cant be true, I loved that half-dane =)
truly one of the greats!!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
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So white QB’s are the only ones with intelligence???
November 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Why can’t we just open up the offense?
Why can’t we get Ford involved in a Wes Welker kind of way? 3 WR, spread Miller out wide, and have DMac in the backfield. Run Ford underneath on crossing routes and quick 5 yd ins and slants.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I want to see an intelligent, accurate pocket passer who can get himself out of a jamb if need be. Race has nothing to do with it…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
It’s that time again everybody put up X-mas decorations and put away Raider gear. Still at least a year and a non-curly looking/acting coach away.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
75-Josh Freeman also fits that description and he isn’t white,but I agree with the description of the type of QB we should have.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
If you’re watching the Sunday night game even Payton Manning is struggling because they cannot run the football. That’s what I was trying to say last week vs the Steelers there is something on film that teams are seeing and they’re keying our running game we have to fix the running.
That being the case the QB is under siege even Manning can’t get it done very few QB’s can. In our case I believe it’s timet to play Bruce Campbell at RG to shake it up and get this grund game going.
But all everyone could focus on was Campbell’s inefficiencies but the real problem was the Oline and it’s inability to run block and pass block.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
++++++++++++
So white QB’s are the only ones with intelligence???
………
No, just most have to rely on intelligence over athleticism.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Bright spot jocoby forest. run forest run
November 28th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Why can’t we just open up the offense?
Why can’t we get Ford involved in a Wes Welker kind of way? 3 WR, spread Miller out wide, and have DMac in the backfield. Run Ford underneath on crossing routes and quick 5 yd ins and slants.
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Thats all on Hue… We have offensive talent, but piss poor coaching, and sub par qb play…
BTW pmanning has marched down to the sd 5 in 3 plays…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Lefty,
Because I didn’t pile on, my “correct” statements were excuses for Russell?
Ok man, whatever.
I’ll just keep screaming we need a C, RG, RT, and #1 WR.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
No, just most have to rely on intelligence over athleticism.
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Nice clean up job…You a politician???
November 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
manning goes field in less than a minute…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Anyone know why we didn’t even bother to run the ball?
The games we won was because of our RUNNING game and RBs making plays on short passes.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
for 6…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Completely and utterly lame. The game was already lost. It was 4th down and Gradkowski messes up his shoulder again. Perfect. There was absolutely no reason this should have happened. The game was over.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
# raiderzmaverick Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Anyone know why we didn’t even bother to run the ball?
The games we won was because of our RUNNING game and RBs making plays on short passes.
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Someone took away our ablilty to run during bye week…
We also have yet to show a new wrinkle on offense…
November 28th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Now we’re in our comfort zone. Screw controlling our own destiny. Here’s to hoping others lose.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Maverick did you watch the game???? the running game got STUFFED!!
I have a real problem with the fact that the coaches just about IGNORE that Bush is on the roster. Here we have a great back big huge can run and we never see him. What a freakin waste.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
So because Grad sucked today, does that mean JC is now an improved QB? HELL EFFIN NO!!!!
I’d rather roll with Kyle Boller. I aint going to spin this schytt like you JC guys. Grad sucked today and it would have been even worst if it wasnt for Ford. His shoulder is busted and will prob need surgery. He’s done as a Raider.
Get that Walter McFadden dude back on the bench as well.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
We need a new coach, a new quarterback, and O line help,…in that order.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
No, just most have to rely on intelligence over athleticism.
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Nice clean up job…You a politician???
…..
LOL… no. Ever see Any Given Sunday? Dude started out thinking his athleticism could overcome lack of preparation and passing skills.
No more guys like this. I want a REAL PASSER. A guy who knows he has to be smart and accurate.
Just seems like most of those guys are white. He could be green for all I give a sh!t.
I just want a QB. Not an athlete/QB.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Yeah, we tried to implement the “deep ball” and dropped the only thing which had us moving the chains. Remember our FB and RB catching short passes/dump offs and going the distance?
DMC pounding the rock….and keep pounding it! We haven’t won a game on our QB’s shoulders since Pits LAST YEAR. Our way to win is with Running the ball, short passes allowing our FAST players to make the Yards After Catch and good “D”
November 28th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Walter McFadden was BURNED so many times it’s disgusting!
November 28th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
JHill,I’m not trying to argue ,just explain why what I saw on here was many taking what you were saying as nothing but making excuses for him.Your points were correct but they were presented out of context.We agree on most things Raider and I value your opinions(as if you give a damn).
November 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
With a great QB Cable would look a lot smarter. ASo would Hujack those plays were there we didn’t execute. Coaches coach players play…………..period
November 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Raider75,
that was some racist azz ish you said. But I agree 95%. Just don’t think white QBs are the only ones with intelligence.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Can’t blame a rookie getting his first start at corner things happen. He was gunshy and out of sorts but he’s a rookie what do you expect?
God coaches find weaknesses and exploit them, we didn’t do that to our demise. Either we didn’t do it or probably more accurately couldn’t do it.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
143.djohnnyg Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
I will NOT be watching another Raider game this year.
I hope that next year we can be better. This year is over.
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Good Luck. It’s been tried by too many many times. This team kind of wraps its claws around you and your hooked. There is no escaping. I’ve found the only way to relieve the pain is a little comic relief, like:
Coach, is it true Al had your head in a toilet bowl til you cried uncle? That you would start JC vs Pitt? and why did he do an about face for the Miami game? You, twisted his arm til you broke it? Man, you guys sure deck it out when it comes to who’s gaonna start at qb.
November 28th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
We haven’t done jack since Cable’s post KC game locker room chant: “Hip hip Hooray, Hip hip Hooray, Hip hip Hooray!”
Also his 10 player delegation meeting on field after practice during the bye.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Raider75,
that was some racist azz ish you said. But I agree 95%. Just don’t think white QBs are the only ones with intelligence.
………
So be it. If that is offensive, then it is what it is.
Its how I feel. I want to see winning football. Not receive a Nobel Peace Prize for improving race relations.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Intelligence isn’t the proper term.Any QB who gets to the NFL has to be intelligent.It is being able to process what you see at an extremely fast rate and make the correct decision in a split second.The great ones can ,the others can’t.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Thank god #21 was back we completely shut them down!
lol
November 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
No more black, athletic QBs please.
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
Brees, Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Schaub, Matt Ryan, Rodgers, etc…
Sorry, but that’s how I feel.
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I feel that you are a piece of schit.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Somebody please post that picture link of the Fat Monkey sittin there with that smirk on his face. That photo pops in my head everytime we go three and out.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
I will NOT be watching another Raider game this year.
I hope that next year we can be better. This year is over.
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Tried it many times and failed miserably myself. Gonna be brutal next week. 3 weeks already and no wins. This game may have marked the end of Cable as well.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
No, just most have to rely on intelligence over athleticism.
+++++++++++==
Nice clean up job…You a politician???
…..
LOL… no. Ever see Any Given Sunday? Dude started out thinking his athleticism could overcome lack of preparation and passing skills.
No more guys like this. I want a REAL PASSER. A guy who knows he has to be smart and accurate.
Just seems like most of those guys are white. He could be green for all I give a sh!t.
I just want a QB. Not an athlete/QB.
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As A black man I Am offened by this Comment!
P.S. But Right now it seems As though your Right About One Thing no more Slash Projects Raiders PLease Find A PURE Passer PLEASE!!!! Always Faithful RRRRAAAAAIIIDDDEEERRR!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
No more black, athletic QBs please.
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
Brees, Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Schaub, Matt Ryan, Rodgers, etc…
Sorry, but that’s how I feel.
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I feel that you are a piece of schit.
…….
I feel you can blow me.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
KKKell you post links of lynchings and bigotry on a daily basis and you are calling people pieces of sh!t? Feel free to look in the mirror.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
All the derelicts that think #21 walks on water just go ahead and sit in the corner and face the wall, think about your actions.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
what actually separates a great team from the mediocre teams are ability to adjust during the game. You look at elite teams in this league, they implement and adapt new ways to win the game when things are going wrong. Cable had to do major changes offensively but our team only stick to the gameplan, thats why we lose…
November 28th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Raider75,
that was some racist azz ish you said. But I agree 95%. Just don’t think white QBs are the only ones with intelligence.
………
So be it. If that is offensive, then it is what it is.
Its how I feel. I want to see winning football. Not receive a Nobel Peace Prize for improving race relations.
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There are 32 starting Qb’s in the mfl, only 8 of them are any good
November 28th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Raider Nation step away from the ledge. Let’s keep in mind that we had 5 wins all last year and that was up from the last two. There are still five games left and plenty for this young team to build on for next year. But:
1) No more Gradkowski excuses. His performance today matched his career stats. No other team in the league would/will even think about starting this guy.
2) Hue has to become more creative with McFadden. Darren HAS to touch the ball at least twenty times a game. If they want to stop him from running then they can’t stop him from receiving. He is THE marque player on this team and he HAS to touch the ball A LOT!
3) Jason Campbell has not shown himself to be a franchise QB for this team either but at least he can make all the throws.
4) Marshall has to mix up the blitzing packages. It’s either rush 4 or a full blitz. Not once did they back out off of a blitz. Not once did they flood one side of the line or the other. It took Henne three times I believe to figure this pattern out. You have to mix it up!
5) Nhamdi has to cover the other teams best receiver. You pay him a ton of money and he is the best defensive corner in the league, why wouldn’t you (and I don’t want to hear any Al Davis makes those calls BS – cause I’m sure big Al didn’t dial up those blitzes or start Bruce today).
6) Jacoby Ford is special – use him accordingly.
Two tough games in a row and a tough schedule left but there are at least two more wins in this team.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
somepeople are just flat ignorant. If you have 200 white QB’s and 25 black QB’s and each have 5 guy’s fail a higher % will be black. Black QB’s don’t get the luxury of sitting on a bench for 4 years learning and getting NFL money if they don’t produce they get cut. The white counterpart stays and learns the game. Just be way of sheer #’s that is the process.
People are people and QB’s are QB’s regardless of color. THere are non-athletic black QB’s too who are very smart but they just don’t get as many opportunities…….it’s always been that way.
In the old days every black QB was required to switch positions in order to play in the NFL or you would see a lot of them in the HOF.
Guy’s like JaMarcus Russell set them back 10 years with his immaturity. But if you took Cam Newton and sat him down for 3 years like they did Aaron Rodgers who knows what you would have. They just don’t allow them to be 2nd string QB’s and learn if they’re not good enough to start they get cut or play another position. It’s always been that way.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
So be it. If that is offensive, then it is what it is.
Its how I feel. I want to see winning football. Not receive a Nobel Peace Prize for improving race relations.
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Winning Football, you f’n moron?
You piece of garbage?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Nobody throws at #21!
He shuts down the entire side of the field…
lol
November 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Like Philip Rivers who was allowed to sit and watch for 2 years before starting. Brady same thing it’s a luxury they afford white QB’s but fr some reason they demand black QB’s start or they are cut.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
How many white WRs in the NFL compared to black?
How many white running backs compared to blacks?
Do you see me crying? No. Why? Because I understand.
But you start talking QBs and everyone gets their panties in a wad.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
tj shut your racist bigot hole you ignorant piece of dog sh!t.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Bruce Gradkowski a white QB with a wonderlic score of 16, loses the game.
And some piece of garbage is going to play the race card?
I don’t think so RaiderFag75.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Poor poor game planning.
Poor defense schemes
Whatever happened to running the ball til you get to a 3rd down yardage situation. Run first, throw on 3rd downs. Oh sure, throw an occassional strike in there, but with Bush and Reece too, why not pound it.
Poor offensive planning. Sometimes I wonder if Hue has a ‘feel’ for the type of game that manifests itself at kick-off, or his ‘timing’ to call a home run play at the opportune time. Good coaches can smell the game and take command. Good coaches plan their plays around what type of personell they have.
The NFL has become very complicated, and I think Al has tried to keep it on simpler terms in the sense he likes his mano y mano and the verical game. But he hires Cable (well, drew his name from a hat) and Hue and Marshall and entrusts them to do his bidding.
To be quite honest, I have no clue how it works. I’ll have to give Al a call later after hes’ cooled a bit, and find out just exactly how things are going down.
I’d call him now, but he is usually a wreck after games like this.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
So be it. If that is offensive, then it is what it is.
Its how I feel. I want to see winning football. Not receive a Nobel Peace Prize for improving race relations.
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Winning Football, you f’n moron?
You piece of garbage?
…….
LOL. FU!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
#21 = overrated
Sorry to say it. He’s a great CB, but nothing like a dominant player.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
StoolSmell…
Stop crying. You sound like a b.tch.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
96.Thec07 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Marshall F
Cable F
Hue Jack F
Grads F
Seabass C
Lechler C
Dline D
Oline D
Secondary F
LB’s F
RB;’s D
WR’s F JFORD A
TE F
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There are no other words. I’m 48 years old and was near tears after this game. What happened to the euphoria after the win over KC?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Please No Cam Newton. I”ve watched plenty SEC games, that Nevada/Boise game, and seen plenty of highlights this Fall. The two best QBs I saw so far was Boise QB and Arkansas Mallett. I saw Locker cut up LSU a couple years ago and I know Luck is getting well coached by Harbaugh. I will be watching QBs in the Bowl games.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Lefty,
I never in a million years would have thought Al would get rid of his project Jamarcus Russell. Not after the Lane Kiffin PC.
So with that in mind, I thought it was pointless to pile on. Instead I was looking at ways to make the team function with him as the QB.
We needed better Oline play, a coordinator better than Cable, and better WRs than rookies DHB and Murphy.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Kid7
I’ve been saying #21 is overrated since August. Got nothing but haterade thrown at me by a bunch of morons that dont know football.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Like Philip Rivers who was allowed to sit and watch for 2 years before starting. Brady same thing it’s a luxury they afford white QB’s but fr some reason they demand black QB’s start or they are cut.
…….
Its everyone else. Its a conspiracy. lol…
November 28th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Post Game Videos http://bit.ly/dG8xOE
November 28th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Why don’t we see the same outrage when Mystic comes on here?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
164.priesttj Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Like Philip Rivers who was allowed to sit and watch for 2 years before starting. Brady same thing it’s a luxury they afford white QB’s but fr some reason they demand black QB’s start or they are cut.
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Those guys had Brees and Bledsoe in front of them. We got Campbell/Grads.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Mistabrown you are a retard. Don’t even think about it.
To the fans who see the team for what it is:
Man it is tough to see Mcfadden and Bush getting 8 and 1 carry. With our quarterbacks that is inexcusable.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
LOL!
Where’s JFB and his love for Peyton’s Oline?
Did you just see dude get bullrushed into Peyton?
LMFAO!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
tj,
Did you shine DHB’s cleats after the game?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Raider 510
Dont think about what?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
First Both Our QB’s SuCK major Balls
Second #21 was playing hurt, and if he was not hurt one bad game wont define him.
Last but not least: Boy I sure miss Jamarcuss Russell with him in the game i knew i was only attending the game to get blasted and talk about the good ole times.
with him in at QB I knew our season was in the tank. With these other QB’s I’m on A Roller Coaster Of emotions, Atleast with Walruss in the game I knew my Girl would blow me to help me feel better after the loss!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
This team can’t get better until the HC is allowed to take players to the wood shed for a good old fashion ass kicking. As Al will never let that happen, the best we can hope for is to occasionally stumble onto mediocrity.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Raider 510 must be one of those derelicts that thinks #21 is a beast, lol
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
PTJ,
You are complete retard.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
111.909RaiderLifer Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RIP… Leslie Nielson…
Always made me laugh….
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He was awesome! What an awful day, indeed.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Bruce Almighty sux big time! Still don’t understand the man-crush you guys have for Bruce. Had that been JC playing the boos would’ve been raining down beginning in the 1st qtr.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
RaiderFag75
Is that your momma looking for a white intelligent pocket passer, or you?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
185.I am Spartacus Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
This team can’t get better until the HC is allowed to take players to the wood shed for a good old fashion ass kicking. As Al will never let that happen, the best we can hope for is to occasionally stumble onto mediocrity.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You got that right!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
KKKell why dont you stick to football and leave the racism & bigotry at the barbershop?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
cable record as a head coach…25-59…the fact that we suck is no surprise. Cable is a buffoon, but no one else wanted the job
November 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
I could care less if Nnamdi ever plays a another down for the Raiders. I don’t blame him for all the losses but what has his presence done for us anyway? WITH him we have 7 Double Digit Loss yrs. in a row. Does anybody think we could do any worse without him?
Trade his overrated arse for a decent QB and see what happens. He has some value on the open market, let’s get what we can for him.
WHAT HAVE WE WON WITH HIM? NOTHING!!! Can’t do much worse for crying out loud.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
BrownStains, why don’t take your trashy azz back to your trailer?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
185.I am Spartacus Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
This team can’t get better until the HC is allowed to take players to the wood shed for a good old fashion ass kicking. As Al will never let that happen, the best we can hope for is to occasionally stumble onto mediocrity.
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Cable is not capable of taking guys to the woodshed. Now that woman he lives with……………… Man I feel sorry for her tonight.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
What team out there has a decent QB that they could trade us?
Exactly!
Build the Oline and Dline!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
I went to a football blog and a Jerry Springer show broke out!!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Jerry’s MOD is a despicable ingrate for letting tj & kk spew racist garbage n here.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
BAMA_RAIDER
This is very true they would’ve boooed him out of the stadium and that’s why the coaches didn’t start him. They knew if he had a rough start the fans would jump on him like stink on doodoo.
Why the fans are soo in lve with Bruce is beyond anything I can ever remember or think of, it’s lunacy. My good friend is a HUGGGEE Bruce Grads fan and the whle game he was making every excuse possible until it was obvious and he then said we need to put Campbell in. And I said no way let him play his way out of it and that’s the only way we will see what he has. If you take him out and we lose they would’ve blamed it all on Campbell.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
KKKell why dont you go suck on your wifes c0ck.
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# KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
BrownStains, why don’t take your trashy azz back to your trailer?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Put Nnamdi on IR.
We are not going to make up a 2 game lead, so get Ware and McFadden all the snaps they can get.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
BrownStains, you’re lucky if the cockroaches let you back into your trailer.
I would bother the Mods, if I were you.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Mistabrown Says:
Kid7
I’ve been saying #21 is overrated since August. Got nothing but haterade thrown at me by a bunch of morons that dont know football
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No haterade from me. I’m right there with you. I was nearly banned for suggesting a few weeks ago that we trade him for a high draft pick next April. He is good but overrated, and I would dump him to get a chance at a franchise QB.
If Nnamdi is considered an “elite” corner in the NFL, it’s only because there’s a lack of talent at the position league-wide. It’s all relative, right?
The problem is that he’s paid too much and nobody would take him at that salary. The Raiders would need to offer another player and/or cash to equalize the trade.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
185.I am Spartacus Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
This team can’t get better until the HC is allowed to take players to the wood shed for a good old fashion ass kicking. As Al will never let that happen, the best we can hope for is to occasionally stumble onto mediocrity.
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Cable is not capable of taking guys to the woodshed. Now that woman he lives with……………… Man I feel sorry for her tonight.
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Really? How about Hue, then? He’s so much more manly.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
What team out there has a decent QB that they could trade us?
Exactly!
Build the Oline and Dline!
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Eagles are gonna “write Vick a blank check” according to sources… I say we do the same…
November 28th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Stoolsmell…
momma jokes? wow.
I know you would never make it as a pocket passer.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Fag75
You trying to get a decent pocket passer for that skank of yours?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
193.89052RAIDER Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
cable record as a head coach…25-59…the fact that we suck is no surprise. Cable is a buffoon, but no one else wanted the job
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No one else wanted the job and cable has done what he can. He is a players coach and has done a good job. Season ain’t over yet. They will bounce back. Cable inherited a dysfunctional heap of chaos with no work ethic. He has not transformed them overnight, but there has been progress. Slow, but progress. If he or Al or the gm can put together a decent o-line, get a long term qb, they will be ok. A lot of the pieces are in place.
Something happened today, can’t put my finger on it, but some type of cancerous activity is permeating the compound, and I don’t feel it is coming from the players or coaches. AIG may be spot on here. When the organization rolls out the OC to announce or explain decisions regarding players, that may undermine the head coach, and it filters on down to the players. As a player, you look to your HC for leadership, no matter who it is. Lose that, and the team suffers.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Looks like our third place position in the division is about to be solidified. San Diego is clicking late in the season . . . right on schedule. Peyton is getting schooled by the Chargers secondary.
Time to start our annual mid-season ritual: Draft analysis.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
No more black, athletic QBs please.
I want to see a white, intelligent, accurate pocket passer.
Brees, Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Schaub, Matt Ryan, Rodgers, etc…
Sorry, but that’s how I feel.
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You piece of garbage!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
153.aig-raiders Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
I will NOT be watching another Raider game this year.
I hope that next year we can be better. This year is over.
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Tried it many times and failed miserably myself. Gonna be brutal next week. 3 weeks already and no wins. This game may have marked the end of Cable as well.
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I’ve done it before. It helps that I don’t live anywhere near Northern Cal. I have to watch games online which I will NOT be doing the rest of the year.
Watching the Raiders play now is like watching a slow death. They are done for the year and will be mailing it in the rest of the way. I don’t need to see it. I will check the scores and jump on the blog every now and then to see what’s up but I need this garbage. I’ve seen Raider teams quit before and I’m sick and tired of it.
I hope they do some things to improve the team so next year they’ll be better, but I don’t need this c.rap.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Raider75
Just Say Sorry so we can go back to talking about Football
November 28th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
I just said I “need” this garbage. Freudian slip maybe. Some sick part of my psyche might indeed need it.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
DaRayduh Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Something happened today, can’t put my finger on it, but some type of cancerous activity is permeating the compound, and I don’t feel it is coming from the players or coaches. AIG may be spot on here. When the organization rolls out the OC to announce or explain decisions regarding players, that may undermine the head coach, and it filters on down to the players. As a player, you look to your HC for leadership, no matter who it is. Lose that, and the team suffers.
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Do you think Hue is the fox in the henhouse?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
It was kinda cool being a “real” team for awhile and not the laughingstock of the nfl for a couple weeks.
Man how things have plummeted in two weeks, I still see a story on the blog saying ‘Raiders Rise’. That’s how quick this thing fell apart where there are still articles saying we are good.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
We played with no energy today. Really dissapointing loss.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
215.I am Spartacus Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Do you think Hue is the fox in the henhouse?
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Me thinks Al is the fox in his own hen house!
November 28th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Bring in Graham Harrell off the packers practice squad. He has been seeing what it takes to learn the position from a good qb and a good coach
November 28th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
216.djohnnyg Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
It was kinda cool being a “real” team for awhile and not the laughingstock of the nfl for a couple weeks.
Man how things have plummeted in two weeks, I still see a story on the blog saying ‘Raiders Rise’. That’s how quick this thing fell apart where there are still articles saying we are good.
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If the raiders were on the nasdaq, people would be jumping out of buildings right now.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
DaRayduh, make no mistake about it Hue was brought in as the next head coach if Cable could not get this team to play well. And by going with Bruce this week Cable may have just handed him the job.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
# beach Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
I’m 48 years old and was near tears after this game. What happened to the euphoria after the win over KC?
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Euphoria is what it is, its irrelevant overdose of chemicals emitted into the brain, that makes you think without reason…
what happened, we met better teams.. thats what happened.. before the KC game we had only played bad teams, and we only won over KC by fluke…
November 28th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Conspiracy theorist abound. When ever we lose this stuff gets started if we’re winning you don’t hear it. We just loss 2 games that’s all we”re dealing with IMO your own dismay is taking your mind on a freeride.
Relax breath we’re just not good enough yet to win consistently. We have to solve the QB problem on this team and the rest will follow.
But I think it’s definitely time to start Bruce Campbell at RG and Mario at RT. We’re just not very physical at the point of attack.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Raiderfanfromtexas Says:
Bring in Graham Harrell off the packers practice squad. He has been seeing what it takes to learn the position from a good qb and a good coach
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Ha ha! Man, I’ve been a Red Raider fan my whole life, but even I know that is nonsense. He’s intelligent and a fierce competitor, but I see him as nothing but another Bruce.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
bg22958 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
DaRayduh, make no mistake about it Hue was brought in as the next head coach if Cable could not get this team to play well. And by going with Bruce this week Cable may have just handed him the job.
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True, but isn’t Hue blowing the big Marvin just as much as all the rest of the coaches? Why should he get a promotion, especially since he only has ONE role?
November 28th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
And he hasn’t done a very good job in that one role.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
221.bg22958 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
DaRayduh, make no mistake about it Hue was brought in as the next head coach if Cable could not get this team to play well. And by going with Bruce this week Cable may have just handed him the job.
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Good or bad, the team has played better this season, but still revert to the last 7 past. We’ll have to wait to see how the season ends. I don’t doubt that it was meant to be, Hue being brought in and such.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Raider75,
If you ever played any sport in your life at a competitive level…you would not have said what you said earlier
November 28th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Yes Hue is doing just a bad a job as the rest but that is the way Al does business.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Raiderfanfromtexas Says:
Bring in Graham Harrell off the packers practice squad. He has been seeing what it takes to learn the position from a good qb and a good coach
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Ha ha! Man, I’ve been a Red Raider fan my whole life, but even I know that is nonsense. He’s intelligent and a fierce competitor, but I see him as nothing but another Bruce.
…………………..
May not have the arm strength but has the smarts. Hell, I just want an above average qb
November 28th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
This is a decent team. Just need to get a QB and another receiver to pair with “Ford”….
As for Bruce and JC…they are what they are. You can’t expect to win with 2nd hand QBs with limited ability. You can wish it and hope for it…but we all know what a real QB plays like.
Too bad JaDavis didn’t humble his punk azz and take a pay cut and try to learn something from the bench for a year.
Anyway, Al Davis has to go back to drawing board and try to find a competent QB whether in the draft or another spin of the wheel in free agency.
Jacoby Ford is a real player!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
# Dhidee99 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Raider75
Just Say Sorry so we can go back to talking about Football
…
No way. Facts are facts. Name me 3 black pure pocket passers in college football right now.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
still waiting…
November 28th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Raider75,
You should take Dhidee99’s advice. Your statements are the exact reason why many are so defensive in this world.
Judge EACH man by his own merits…..JaDavis and Jason Campbell’s performance has NO bearing on Josh Freeman’s development…
Just like Heath Shuler’s failure means nothing to Philip Rivers.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
bg22958 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Yes Hue is doing just a bad a job as the rest but that is the way Al does business.
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I don’t dispute that, but Al also likes brilliant offensive minds (fancying himself as the defensive genius who needs the offensive foil) and Hue is doing nothing to show that he is even inventive, let alone a leader of men. A cheerleader, yes; a real leader, no.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
I just finished watching the game on tape…..
No way Gradkowski should have played today, you don’t have to be an NFL coach to see that he wasn’t 100% or maybe I had forgotten just how terrible of a duck Grads used to throw.
Underthrows and poor accuracy all day, ALL DAY CABLE!
And what the heck is going on with our secondary!?! Yeah, you can say the rookie McFadden got lit up, but everytime they stacked recievers on us we look like the keystone cops! Blown assignments everywhere.
But the “stinky poo” ball has to go to Marcel Reese! Yeah you have made some great catches this year, but everytime you block it looks like your trying to dance with the guy!
Why has our running game suddenly started to look horrible?? There has been absolutely no push off the line of scrimmage, and Reese gets shed like a blow up doll gets tossed.
Wow, I guess being tied for first place after the bye week … (at 5-4) was good enough for this team.
It’s like the offense has completely disappeared.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Cable is a Fat Monkey!
Hue didn’t do Sh!t!
Marshall sucks!!!
We need better coaching!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Where are all the white running backs?
White WRs? White CBs?
Do you hear me crying? No
November 28th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
The only positive from today’s game,
Jacoby Ford, kid’s a gamer.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Cable & Jackson = Shell & Walsh
November 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Roch R,
Gradkowski has a weak arm and is inaccurate. We’ve known that since jump.
AS for the running game, every team from now on is going to stack the box and put all their effort to stopping DMAC and force our woeful QBs and WRs to win the game.
Unfortunately, only Jacoby Ford has figured out how to fight for the QB…the rest of these receivers are trying to learn the game at a glacial pace
November 28th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
238.Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Where are all the white running backs?
White WRs? White CBs?
Do you hear me crying? No
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This has nothing to do with the other. Go tell Peyton Hillis he shouldn’t be a running back….or Wes Welker can’t be a receiver?
Get the hell outta here with your simplistic generalizations and peanut butter approach to society!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
I hear ya’ SnB…
I had such high hopes this year….
I felt sick watching that game today. The effort was just terrible.
I don’t even know what to say. I am simply disgusted.
Go Raiders.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Unfortunately, only Jacoby Ford has figured out how to fight for the QB…the rest of these receivers are trying to learn the game at a glacial pace
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Right on. Football just really comes down to wanting it more than the other guy. That can’t be taught.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
I don’t care what color the QB is as long as he doesn’t look like Doug Flutie out there.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Good night nation, I hope our offence finds its pride again.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Still waiting for 3 black pure pocket passers in college football right now…
November 28th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
[...] Contra Costa Times reported on Sunday night that Gradkowski re-injured his throwing shoulder in Oakland’s 33-17 loss to the Miami [...]
November 28th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
238.Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Where are all the white running backs?
White WRs? White CBs?
Do you hear me crying? No
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This has nothing to do with the other. Go tell Peyton Hillis he shouldn’t be a running back….or Wes Welker can’t be a receiver?
Get the hell outta here with your simplistic generalizations and peanut butter approach to society!
……..
That is a shame. Out off all the WRs and RBs and you can only name a few white guys.
The NFL is racist.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
We should start the Jerry rule.
For every black RB drafted, they should have to give a white guy a tryout.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
How about all teams must carry at least 1 white WR?
November 28th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Raider75,
Your argument is so pedestrian as to defy logic.
You like to give everyone in life a piece of paper that tells them what they can and can’t do in life based on what someone else did.
That’s a $%@#%@# up way to live life bro!
You NEVER tell someone they can’t do something because of their race, parents, upbringing, culture, natinality, religion etc……
If a black QB is lights out…he should play..not worry about whether jerks like you are going to hold some bias over him.
Human society has wasted Billions of lives all over the world with your line of thinking.
So, I don’t know how many black QBs are pure passers in college right now. But I know your world view is pathetic
November 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
75,
I saw you list of white QBs you’d like to have. I doubt there is one person who wouldn’t agree with the guys on that list.
I’d like to know who the 5 white pure pocket passers are in CFB right now?
I really don’t see ANY QB out there who wouldn’t be anything more than a project right now.
Luck, Locker, Mallett ???
None of them are better than Boeller IMO.
Newton is terrible and keep Pryor outta here too.
Build the Oline and Dline!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
All I said is most QBs that rely on intelligence over athleticism are white.
Please excuse me. You guys blew it out of proportion.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Raider75:
The “StoolSmell” moniker was clever, though.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
white/black/purple…it doesnt matter what color our qb is….oakland can not develop a qb…our coaching/ownership suxs!! i have read this blog for awhile now and after going to the stadium to see this garbage i finally broke down and signed up….we need a coach like gruden…..someone that will challenge the old man and not worry if he gets fired….cable is not that man……campbell and grads are not our future qb…..
November 28th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
After watching SD destroy Manning and Indy handily, I say don’t even show up next Sunday, because a 3rd whooping in a row is definitely coming. Got to play the game, I guess, but that will be mighty ugly down there.
I can’t see how this Raider team has any chance to even score, unless is from special teams, and no way the defense can’t stop the SD juggernaut.
Might as well fire Cable now, give HueJack a look see for the rest of the season and see what could happen, I can’t expect much to happen, but at least Al Davis can put the Cable disaster behind, and move on. This season is toast anyway.
I am very disappointed in Seymour, I thought after the Pitt melt down he would fire back and have a great game, but maybe all doubts are coming true, he just won’t live up to the hype he was getting.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
# J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
75,
I saw you list of white QBs you’d like to have. I doubt there is one person who wouldn’t agree with the guys on that list.
I’d like to know who the 5 white pure pocket passers are in CFB right now?
I really don’t see ANY QB out there who wouldn’t be anything more than a project right now.
Luck, Locker, Mallett ???
None of them are better than Boeller IMO.
Newton is terrible and keep Pryor outta here too.
Build the Oline and Dline!
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exactly. I asked for 3. You asked for 5.
Then you name 3 right off the bat. How about Tannehill at A&M? Landry Jones at OU?
November 28th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
its ignorant sh!t like this that makes this blog hard to read at times. nobody needs to prove how many black pocket passers there are in college to some ignoramus. when the hell did “THE GREAT GRADKOWSKI or “THE POLISH CANNON” stop being white? its funny how he just got darker all of a sudden. then some of these dummies have the nerve to act like race never played an issue with russell on here.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
i think its funny how so many have turned on grads now. i remember saying how this would eventually happen. he has done this type of sh!t since he’s been here. but since he wasnt russell it looked better. i mentioned last night how he missed tds early in the season before his shoulder was hurt. i really hoped he would do something cuz i have no faith in jason. damn shame the
season looks damn near over. im still hopin tho.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Still waiting for 3 black pure pocket passers in college football right now…
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my bad i was taking out the garbage
#1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State
#2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU
#3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami
#4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M
That last kid from Texas Am The Raiders Should Take him with the 2rd pick next year he’s the best on this list.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Well they finally got what they wanted…BRUCE!! BRUCE!! BRUCE!! Well injury prone Bruce didnt make it happen. JC is not the answer, the ONLY answer is sitting on the bench looking at these fools like, “I can’t believe this sheet”! Boller is better than JC and Bruce! Start this guy!!Give him his shot!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Armond,
Good post. The Raiders just don’t have a guy at QB to get it done right now. Both are limited. We all hoped and wished that one of these guys would emerge.
But there is a reason why one of the QBs was given away for a late pick in two years…and the other was brought in to compete for the 3rd QB spot.
The team is better though. Need a couple of lineman and a receiver…..got to go back to the well and try and find another QB
November 28th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Dhidee99,
I am sure there are a couple of black pocket passers in D1-AA too.
But regardless, I don’t care if there aren’t ANY black QBs, white corners or asian linebackers.
NO PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO “OR TRY” SOMETHING!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
the coaches dont have a clue but its al davis fault. the qb most of u wanted to see play screwed up but somehow davis is responsible. if bcampbell cant start then loper should be playin over cc. its pathetic how hujackman has messed sh!t up. ive been on him all season for a reason. we still dont see dmc as a downfield threat. bush has been ignored AGAIN and wth happenend with dhb? they have no clue how to adjust during the game. the team was flat for the 2nd straight week for some dumb reason. can it be this grads vs campbell bs?
November 28th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
This Column is just hilarious but true. Fire cable.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20101128/NEWS/101129575/1057/SPORTS0908?p=all&tc=pgall
November 28th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
SnB Production Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Dhidee99,
I am sure there are a couple of black pocket passers in D1-AA too.
But regardless, I don’t care if there aren’t ANY black QBs, white corners or asian linebackers.
NO PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO “OR TRY” SOMETHING!
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I Agree With You Man But, I like Giving HiM Some Answers Becuase I want To Hear What His Dumb Arse Is going to Say Next. lol
November 28th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
snb some people just want to see things their way. like u said race should be the last fuggin issue right now. we just got our azzez kicked for 2 weeks now but the qbs ethnicity is an issue. then u wonder why we dont win around here. its enuff bs we put up with from the damn team!!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Post #266 Funny as Hell !
November 28th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
armond Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
snb some people just want to see things their way. like u said race should be the last fuggin issue right now. we just got our azzez kicked for 2 weeks now but the qbs ethnicity is an issue. then u wonder why we dont win around here. its enuff bs we put up with from the damn team!!
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WHA?
November 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
The best QB in the NFL right now is Black. His name is Michael Vick.
Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are numbers 2 and 3.
Deal with it.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
No he isn’t!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Well Said SnB.
Race & religion has nothing to do with sports.
Chinese playing BBall.
Whites playing RBs and WRs in the NFL.
Muslims playing Football.
Americans playing soccer!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
The best QB in the NFL right now is Black. His name is Michael Vick.
Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are numbers 2 and 3.
Deal with it.
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Wha? You Smoking TOO
November 28th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
BTW, B Leftwich is a pocket passer.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
DAT Nygen= LB
JASON SEAHORN= CB
AND THE jETS 3RD dOWN bACK iS NICE
November 28th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Its simpler than that.
Just because Brady is white…doesn’t mean that Andrew Luck is automatically going to be a great QB.
Luck could just as quickly become the next Trent Edwards…I mean, they both went to Stanford right?
Like I said before, this line of thinking is so wrong on so many levels.
Just judge each person on their own merits…not on what someone that may have similiar physical traits or accent did in the past.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
BTW, B Leftwich is a pocket passer.
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BTW HE SUCKS BALLS BIG BALLS
November 28th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
The best QB in the NFL right now is Black. His name is Michael Vick.
Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are numbers 2 and 3.
Deal with it.
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Vick is a very good football player, one of the most dangerous QB’s NFL. BUT is not even close to Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rivers.
As a passer Vick is prolly not even top ten.
BUT Vick would be a awesome upgrade over anything we have!
November 28th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
And he was drafted in the 1st RD due to his pocket passing skills.
November 28th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Re: Post 66.
Didn’t find it very funny. If Lowell Cohn followed the news reports all this week, he would know that Hue was every bit as instrumental as Cable in pushing for Gradkowski to start. Therefore, I see it as nothing more than a cheap shot from someone with an axe to grind.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
264.SnB Production Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Dhidee99,
I am sure there are a couple of black pocket passers in D1-AA too.
But regardless, I don’t care if there aren’t ANY black QBs, white corners or asian linebackers.
NO PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO “OR TRY” SOMETHING!
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WORD!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
whA thA fHA?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I don’t care if he is good. He is a pocket passer & he is black! lol
November 28th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Bruce was terribly and fitting that he got hurt. His career in a nutshell. Doubt he will ever play for the Silver and Black again.
Just not sure why Hue Jackson would dial up a delayed, play-action bootleg, deep sideline pass against a cover 2, where arm-strength is paramount.
If a bunch of bloggers can sense that Bruce does not have the arm for that type of play, why the F does our OC not know it?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
# Dhidee99 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Still waiting for 3 black pure pocket passers in college football right now…
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my bad i was taking out the garbage
#1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State
#2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU
#3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami
#4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M
That last kid from Texas Am The Raiders Should Take him with the 2rd pick next year he’s the best on this list.
…..
Johnson from A&M is NOT a pure pocket passer. That’s why Tannehill replaced him.
As for the rest, good for them. Lets see how many of them end up in the NFL.
For every black pocket passer there are 5 white guys.
You guys can get mad all you want. Talk trash about me. Whatever.
Where are all these black pure passers in NFL?
Can a black guy be a pure pocket passer? Sure.
If there are so many out there then why so few in NFL?
Why are most in that category white? IDK. I just know that’s the way it is.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Aye just so yall know I dont Care what color a mans skin is just Freaking Win
November 28th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
In pocket out of pocket who gives a damn I just want to win. Pocket passing has it’s merits and so does a scrambler but the biggest attirbute is “winner” can the guy win ball games. Warren Moon was a great scrambler in college and had a great arm and accurate as any QB can you can think of and they told him to take his ass to Canada.
Haven Moses and great college QB they told him to take his ass to WR position if we wanted to play. He was Warren Moon before Warren Moon.
They were scramblers and so was Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton but for some reaosn they were allowed to do it. It doesn’t matter how you win just win…….period
November 28th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Today we watched the last game Bruce may start, and the beginning of the end for Cable as a HC and Hue as an OC.
Back to collegiate line-coaching for Tom, and coaching wides for Hue.
They were so badly outclassed today, it was almost comical.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Look at what happened with W Moon. Race has nothing to do with one’s abilities to play sports.
Whites can play BBall, skill positions in the NFL, etc….
Blacks can be great QBs, great coaches, etc….
It’s 2010!! WTF is wrong with You People?!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
#1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State
#2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU
#3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami
#4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M
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I thought we were talking about drafting a QB not looking at undrafted FA’s to pick up?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Raider75 You Suck Balls Too. Big Buffalo steamy in the winter balls!!! Elephant Balls on your face!!! Deez Balls in your Mouth!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Vegas,
Dnt forget to add Marshall! He will be fired!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Today we watched the last game Bruce may start, and the beginning of the end for Cable as a HC and Hue as an OC.
Back to collegiate line-coaching for Tom, and coaching wides for Hue.
They were so badly outclassed today, it was almost comical.
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Yup. Entire organization outclassed from top to bottom.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Anybody know what Hue had to say after the game?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
#1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State
#2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU
#3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami
#4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M
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I thought we were talking about drafting a QB not looking at undrafted FA’s to pick up?
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he just said people in College dummy!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Anybody know what Marshall had to say after the game?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Anybody know what Al had to say after the game?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
The Raiders were 27th in the league in 3rd down conversions before the game today.
They need a 3rd down goto play/plays. They’re wearing the defense out.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
As long as they’re great players why does it matter if they’re pocket passers? What’s so great about pocket passing????
There have been many and would be many more if the NFL would give them the opportunity. Lok around the NFL how many backup QB’s do you see that are black? not many well that has a lot to do with it. It’s no diferent than looking at that position as a whole they just wont let black QB’s sit and learn.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
he just said people in College dummy!!!!
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I know, none of those guys on that list will be drafted with the first 200 picks if at all.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
# Dhidee99 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Raider75 You Suck Balls Too. Big Buffalo steamy in the winter balls!!! Elephant Balls on your face!!! Deez Balls in your Mouth!!!
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When you have nothing intelligent to say just insult somebody.
Like talking to a 3 year old.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Q. Mosses had an ok day as a back-up.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Raider75,
You live in a very simple world. And a sad one at that.
Your entire underlying premise is that blacks are not capable of playing quarterback (the right way) because somehow they are genetically incapable of playing the position. THat’s what you are saying
As a human being that believes totally in the equal opportunty to try and (succeed or fail) I find what you are saying totally offensive.
You are the reason why some people in this world can’t move on from race (conservative or liberal)…why the world is so damn PC.
Because for all the light hearted jokes out there…we have guys like you that actually believe it.
Do you exist only to make life for others harder?
Every man and woman deserves the right to try anything and be evaluated FAIRLY.
I hope you aren’t a decision maker in your line of work…whatever that is!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
What’s so great about pocket passing????
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LMAO!!!
They are always in the Super Bowl maybe??
November 28th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
300.priesttj Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
As long as they’re great players why does it matter if they’re pocket passers? What’s so great about pocket passing????
There have been many and would be many more if the NFL would give them the opportunity. Lok around the NFL how many backup QB’s do you see that are black? not many well that has a lot to do with it. It’s no diferent than looking at that position as a whole they just wont let black QB’s sit and learn.
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And you think this is just cause they are colored?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
When you have nothing intelligent to say just insult somebody.
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Don’t talk about intelligence, dummy.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Raider75,
Are you from India? Because you think just like those people over there that believe in the caste system…..your lot in life is chosen at birth.
Garbage bro….total garbage!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
# Dhidee99 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Raider75 You Suck Balls Too. Big Buffalo steamy in the winter balls!!! Elephant Balls on your face!!! Deez Balls in your Mouth!!!
…….
When you have nothing intelligent to say just insult somebody.
Like talking to a 3 year old.
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you been bad mouthing blacks all night and I cant get one jab in! Thats Why you Suck lil mouse balls
November 28th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
When you have nothing intelligent to say just insult somebody.
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Can you believe this mofo talking about insults, and intelligence. Wow, some people.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
The #1 job of all NFL teams is to WIN. The #1 job of the QB is to PASS the ball.
If you can’t pass well, it don’t matter if you can run/scramble. It is like a RB that can catch. Ya gotta be able to RUN the ball to make it matter.
Just ask Kordell Srewert.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
The Raiders problems have nothing to do with the race of Bruce and Jason…they both don’t represent anything but themselves….and because they haven’t represented themselves well…the Raiders will have a new QB next year…regardless of color
November 28th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
You people…
November 28th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I think it is simple why there isn’t as many black QB’s, it’s simply there is no one in that position to try to immulate.
As an athletic kid, do you want to be Kobe, Lebron or Randy Moss or Deon Sanders??
Inner-city athletes aren’t going to relate to Peyton Manning, and inner-city HS football is not a passing style offense.
Now with HS seniors leaving their last semester because of good grades and going to college for spring ball and the like, the inner-city athlete is way behind the learning curve and their peers.
Not entirely fair, but just the way it is.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Very astute observation KK It is killing us we need what you call a possesion rec like Chaz especially now that ZMiller is hurting. He didn’t even make a catch today. Not having a WR like Chaz big physical athletic and and great hands is killing us. Not to mention that he runs great routes.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Vick is a prime example of my argument.
Dude didn’t study film or learn the playbook first several years because he relied on athleticism.
As he gets older, he is realizing that he has to use his intelligence more and therefor his passing is improving.
White guys don’t have that option. They know right from the start that they have to use their head because 90% of them lack the athleticism to overcome bad passing.
If Vick couldn’t run. he would have been out of the league a long time ago.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Snb and if that QB can play great I wouldn’t care if were pumpernickle or white or black I want to win……….period. The rest of this stuff is crazy IMHO!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:20 pm White guys don’t have that option. They know right from the start that they have to use their head because 90% of them lack the athleticism to overcome bad passing.
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SO whites don’t have the athleticism to develop the way Vick did? Hmmm
November 28th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
But, it’s always the black people who are accused of Racism, funny that.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
So we went from the Gardowski being the best QB on our roster debate to can the black man play QB debate?
LMFAO!
Catch y’all in the morning.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Michael Vick is following a similiar path that Steve Young followed.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Not so fast my friends.
This is it: The Alamo. Save your draft talk one more week. This Chargers game could be pivotal. A win and we’re right back in the mix with a death grip on the division tiebreaker and another shot to take down KC. Laugh all you want, but I’m feeling it.
I guarantee victory in SD next Sunday. GUARANTEE!
SD is not as good as their press clippings. Rivers is, yes. But the rest of that 6-5 team can be had.
Gotta get the ground game on track. Gotta get Chris Johnson back to help out and Nnamdi sharper than he was today. Gotta set up the play-action and find Ford and Murphy for a big play or two. But it can all be done.
Who’s with me?
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
320.J Hill Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
So we went from the Gardowski being the best QB on our roster debate to can the black man play QB debate?
LMFAO!
Catch y’all in the morning.
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Yup, that’s what it amounts too. Raiders gotta start some damn games!
Later
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Raider75
Back to Funking with you.
No more talk About you Sucking Balls I apologize For Saying you Suck Balls
Now moving Along would you like to Hold MY balls no homo!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
If I could have any QB I wanted right now, that QB would be Andrew Luck and I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT COLOR HE IS, or race or creed of religious belief.
Get me Andrew Luck and I’ll win a SB in 3 years. Second Mike Vick, my reason Luck is 6′4″ 240 and can run and throw like hell. Get Andrew Luck and we’re immediately a very good team.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
There is NO WAY IN HE** the Raiders can win in SD next week so we are 5-7 GUARANTEED.
I won’t be watching that game, but I guarantee you Oakland won’t even be competitive. This team is demoralized and defeated. They figured out they were pretenders after Pittsburgh and it carried over to this game where the Dolphins hammered that fact home in case there was any doubt.
This whole franchise is such a joke. “Raider Resurgence” was the cry for a couple weeks, now it’s just back to “normal”.
I don’t see how 5-7 is such an improvement over what they’ve been the last seven.
It’s such a downer to see this org. self implode EVERY FREAKIN’ YEAR and just turn into a pile of dung EVERY YEAR! Heads down, “attitude” gone, just another bunch of losers who thought they had something.
I’m not wasting another Sunday watching this pathetic POS team.
I’ll jump on here next Sunday at 5pm (pst) and I GUARANTEE you I’ll be reading about yet another Raider humiliation. I’m guessing 48-6 if luck shines on the Raiders.
Nothing has changed in Oakland.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
# Dhidee99 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Raider75
Back to Funking with you.
No more talk About you Sucking Balls I apologize For Saying you Suck Balls
Now moving Along would you like to Hold MY balls no homo!
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lol…
November 28th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
I’m with you Chris.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Michael Vick is following a similiar path that Steve Young followed.
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Holy Sh!t. I don’t remember Steve Young the Mormon going to jail for 2 years.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
But, it’s always the black people who are accused of Racism, funny that.
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But As ablack man I have too admit I am “Racist” I cant Stand CRACKERS (raider75)who Hate Black QB’s
November 28th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
329.Raider75 Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
# SnB Production Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Michael Vick is following a similiar path that Steve Young followed.
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Holy Sh!t. I don’t remember Steve Young the Mormon going to jail for 2 years.
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Maybe if you would just follow the game and quit trying to make everything a social commentary…you might actually enjoy the game.
You are who you are
November 28th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Young rushed for 4239 yards in his Career with a 96.8 QB rating.
Vick already has 4329 Rushing yards and a 79.1 career QB rating.
I see the similarities. LOL! hahaha
November 28th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Put a fork in it. The real Raiders are back and this season is done.
Coaching is terrible. Grads had no business being out there – it was obvious he was not 100% and he is not good as a starter anyway. The vanilla offense is a joke – so predictable its laughable. D is also so predictable its a joke. Unless there’s incredible individual performances, we get murdered. Without Ford, we get blown out 33-0. He was directly responsible for all 17 points.
There’s no heart from the coaching staff. Watching the Dolphins coach get/keep the team fired up – while Cable and Co. stand there with blank looks on their faces, even when the game can still be won … is just maddening. Imagine what practices and team meetings are like. The team is a reflection of their coach. No heart. Watch the post game interviews on CSNBayArea – the players have given up. After Cable said, ‘we’ll be fine’ after getting embarrassed in Pitt last week – you knew it was over. Watching today’s ‘We’re dissapointed…’ crap makes you want to puke.
Running game? Please. The oline cant move anybody and DMac is back to running into walls – and falling down. Passing game? Please. WR’s – even Murphy is starting to look like he doesnt give a F… – he is dropping more than he is catching and the alligator arms on that crossing pattern in the 4th qtr when the game was still in reach says it all. DHB is a total bust, was he even out there today? Actually its hard to tell because he is rarely targeted he cant get open on anybody. His one play – run reverse where he broke outside and went out of bounds instead of taking it inside where there was a hole was ridiculous – he didn’t want to take a hit. No heart. JLH checked out after game 1 last year – he can’t wait to be released – he was pissed he made the team. ‘Chill’ens is a lost cause. Give me 4 hungry players from the UFL/practice squads who want to earn an NFL contract over these bums anyday.
Defense : The 70’s era Man defense gets exposed *everytime* with just simple crossing routes and timing patterns with average QB’s/WR’s. Unless the front 4 can get pressure they get picked apart. 3rd down was atrocious. How many 3rd and longs did they convert? All of them. Run D was horrible – DLine getting pushed back 3-4 yards on every play – missed tackles everywhere. McClain is NOT an upgrade over Morrison – he is slow and likes to take on blockers instead of making tackles. Morrison was way better than this chump. Look at the stats. McClain another one of these 1st round busts with millions in the bank and nothing to play for except the off season vacations.
Bottom line – this team needs yet another new coaching staff – a HC with discipline who will make these players accountable and bring in coaches on all 3 phases who bring energy and creativity. Yeah right. Al is still kicking and running the show … aint **it gonna change till that changes.
Raiders finish 6-10 (at best).
November 28th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
This is some funny stuff in here. Do you guys realize we are just like Cable?
After the game Cable is so emotional and says things out of his current emotions. Then by Wednesday his brain kicks in and he has a different tone and says some things that make some sense.
We are the same. We started out ripping the team, the coaches, and now we ripping each other. We not watching next week, we gonna lose next week, etc.
By Wednesday and Thursday we are gonna be on here breaking down how we gonna win this game. Sunday at noon the grills will be burning and brews on ice waiting for the game to start.
That’s why we one big family in here. Except for Cable.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Raider 75 man stop while you’re a tail, need I say Ryan Leaf……..
November 28th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
I think W Moon was the best QB to ever play the game.
1- Moon
2- Montana/ Elway
3- Young/ Marino
Now
1- Manning
2- Moon
3- Montana/ Elway
4- Young/ Marino
November 28th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Realize this: If we beat the Chargers we are back ahead of them 13 weeks into the season and can still hunt down the Chiefs. None of our remaining games are easy. All are winnable.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
I think W Moon was the best QB to ever play the game.
1- Moon
2- Montana/ Elway
3- Young/ Marino
Now
1- Manning
2- Moon
3- Montana/ Elway
4- Young/ Marino
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Now
1- Manning
2- Moon
3- Montana/ Elway
4- Young/ Marino
5- Bruce/JC
LOL!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
priesttj Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Raider 75 man stop while you’re a tail, need I say Ryan Leaf……..
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What If He Counters With Akili Smith Or Ja Walruss
November 28th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Let’s look at all the QBs drafted in the 1st RD in the last decade. How many were black/ White, and how will did they do?
I say more white QBs are busts than Black QBs!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Get ‘em
Raider O Get’em!!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Elway: was not a pocket passer (SB)
Montana: was not a pocket passer (SB)
Young: was not a pocket passer (SB)
Moon: was not a pocket passer
Manning: pocket passer (SB)
Marino: Pocket passer
Pocket passing is overrated!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Out of the remaining games left on the schedule it looks like the only possible win might be against Denver. The game in San Diego is going to be sad and ugly. The Raids are beginning to circle down the toilet. I just do not see the team rebounding after two very poor performances. Grads was late and short with throws to receivers that were breaking open today. Campbell is back in the saddle and his reads are slow and he holds the ball to long sometimes…not good when the oline cannot give enough time. Bottom line…this team ain’t goin’ nowhere with AD pulling the strings…late
November 28th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Raider O Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Elway: was not a pocket passer (SB)
Montana: was not a pocket passer (SB)
Young: was not a pocket passer (SB)
Moon: was not a pocket passer
Manning: pocket passer (SB)
Marino: Pocket passer
Pocket passing is overrated!!!!
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Get’Em !!!!!
November 28th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Class of the AFC west is back… Bolts blow up Manning yet again… Nice try Faders and Chefs, too bad you have to play 16… Keep at it though, you are getting better….
NFL is all about the QB… Cassel, Grad/Campbell just are not good enough…
November 28th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
November 28th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
I could care less if Nnamdi ever plays a another down for the Raiders. I don’t blame him for all the losses but what has his presence done for us anyway? WITH him we have 7 Double Digit Loss yrs. in a row. Does anybody think we could do any worse without him?
Trade his overrated arse for a decent QB and see what happens. He has some value on the open market, let’s get what we can for him.
WHAT HAVE WE WON WITH HIM? NOTHING!!! Can’t do much worse for crying out loud.
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Totally agree – as much as I like the guy as a personality, Nhamdi is totally overrated – and not a winner. Doesn’t play big when it counts, yet he is all over the limelight when he has earned nothing. He is and never has been a playmaker, esp to match his contract or status. Speaking of, contract he squeezed from the Gheezer is laughable – untradeable so forget about that. He’s the highest paid CB in the NFL and is scheduled to make top 3 avg QB money next season or go into FA. I say let him go regardless, he’s just not worth it. I wanted to release him 2 years ago when he entered FA – before he got that ridiculous contract everyone in the league laughed outloud about. We can get 4-5 quality players (starters) for his current salary and honestly the D is only marginally better with him on the field – its the scheme, not the players that is keeping them at the bottom of the pack year after year. We can thank AD for that and that will not change until he passes the torch – or passes on more like.
While I’m at it – same applies for Seabass and Lechler – both overrated and paid *way too much* to perform like avg (less, in the case of Seabass) or slightly more (Lechler) than avg NFL players at their positions. Lechler’s great avg means dick when you’re 5-11 year after year – for the money he makes, we could have a decent LB for Christs sake. And Seabass is one of the bigger j(ch)okes in the league. They have done nothing to help win and their lax attitude is part of the bigger cancer that must be removed (but won’t be).
November 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
The D played well for being on the field the whole game, with the exception of covering Bess (Chris Johnson was missed there). Why not adjust the D? Double? I liked the way they mixed up the calls though. They should have switched QB’s when it was apperant Bruce was’nt healthy. I could see that at the beginning of the game. There’s not a QB in the league that misses that many throws when their healthy. Hue’s play calling whan it came to the ground game sucked, a few draws = ok, but power formation early in the game w/ no misdirection( why don’t you just tell the D “hey were gonna run it over there”) Aso’s not gonna be on the team next year unless he restructers his contract.I would like to see him @ SS. I don’t think he would have played if Johnson and Ware were available. It went from looking good to not so good this season in a hurry w, no healthy real QB on the roster. Hey the Pats are cheap as dirt and don’t really want to pay Brady (I can dream if I want too, could you Imagine). We are a QB away from a SB. Al keep em coming till we get a good one!! Maybe another league would be a good place to start.