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Gradkowski re-injures shoulder

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 28th, 2010 at 5:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski re-injured his throwing shoulder in a 33-17 loss to the Miami Dolphins and rendered the Raiders’ quarterback issue meaningless for at least the next few weeks.

Gradkowski said it felt much like it did after the San Diego game, a third-degree separation which cost him five weeks.

Raiders coach Tom Cable said after the game the plan was always to go back to Gradkowski once he was completely healthy.

Much more to come later . . .

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    How about all teams must carry at least 1 white WR?

  • SnB Production

    Raider75,

    Your argument is so pedestrian as to defy logic.

    You like to give everyone in life a piece of paper that tells them what they can and can’t do in life based on what someone else did.

    That’s a $%@#%@# up way to live life bro!

    You NEVER tell someone they can’t do something because of their race, parents, upbringing, culture, natinality, religion etc……

    If a black QB is lights out…he should play..not worry about whether jerks like you are going to hold some bias over him.

    Human society has wasted Billions of lives all over the world with your line of thinking.

    So, I don’t know how many black QBs are pure passers in college right now. But I know your world view is pathetic

  • J Hill

    75,

    I saw you list of white QBs you’d like to have. I doubt there is one person who wouldn’t agree with the guys on that list.

    I’d like to know who the 5 white pure pocket passers are in CFB right now?

    I really don’t see ANY QB out there who wouldn’t be anything more than a project right now.

    Luck, Locker, Mallett ???

    None of them are better than Boeller IMO.

    Newton is terrible and keep Pryor outta here too.

    Build the Oline and Dline!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    All I said is most QBs that rely on intelligence over athleticism are white.

    Please excuse me. You guys blew it out of proportion.

  • I am Spartacus

    Raider75:

    The “StoolSmell” moniker was clever, though.

  • imisstimbrown

    white/black/purple…it doesnt matter what color our qb is….oakland can not develop a qb…our coaching/ownership suxs!! i have read this blog for awhile now and after going to the stadium to see this garbage i finally broke down and signed up….we need a coach like gruden…..someone that will challenge the old man and not worry if he gets fired….cable is not that man……campbell and grads are not our future qb…..

  • zopi

    After watching SD destroy Manning and Indy handily, I say don’t even show up next Sunday, because a 3rd whooping in a row is definitely coming. Got to play the game, I guess, but that will be mighty ugly down there.
    I can’t see how this Raider team has any chance to even score, unless is from special teams, and no way the defense can’t stop the SD juggernaut.
    Might as well fire Cable now, give HueJack a look see for the rest of the season and see what could happen, I can’t expect much to happen, but at least Al Davis can put the Cable disaster behind, and move on. This season is toast anyway.
    I am very disappointed in Seymour, I thought after the Pitt melt down he would fire back and have a great game, but maybe all doubts are coming true, he just won’t live up to the hype he was getting.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    # J Hill Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    75,

    I saw you list of white QBs you’d like to have. I doubt there is one person who wouldn’t agree with the guys on that list.

    I’d like to know who the 5 white pure pocket passers are in CFB right now?

    I really don’t see ANY QB out there who wouldn’t be anything more than a project right now.

    Luck, Locker, Mallett ???

    None of them are better than Boeller IMO.

    Newton is terrible and keep Pryor outta here too.

    Build the Oline and Dline!
    …….

    exactly. I asked for 3. You asked for 5.

    Then you name 3 right off the bat. How about Tannehill at A&M? Landry Jones at OU?

  • armond

    its ignorant sh!t like this that makes this blog hard to read at times. nobody needs to prove how many black pocket passers there are in college to some ignoramus. when the hell did “THE GREAT GRADKOWSKI or “THE POLISH CANNON” stop being white? its funny how he just got darker all of a sudden. then some of these dummies have the nerve to act like race never played an issue with russell on here.

  • armond

    i think its funny how so many have turned on grads now. i remember saying how this would eventually happen. he has done this type of sh!t since he’s been here. but since he wasnt russell it looked better. i mentioned last night how he missed tds early in the season before his shoulder was hurt. i really hoped he would do something cuz i have no faith in jason. damn shame the
    season looks damn near over. im still hopin tho.

  • Dhidee99

    Raider75 Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    Still waiting for 3 black pure pocket passers in college football right now…

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    my bad i was taking out the garbage

    #1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State

    #2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU

    #3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami

    #4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M

    That last kid from Texas Am The Raiders Should Take him with the 2rd pick next year he’s the best on this list.

  • RAIDERindallas

    Well they finally got what they wanted…BRUCE!! BRUCE!! BRUCE!! Well injury prone Bruce didnt make it happen. JC is not the answer, the ONLY answer is sitting on the bench looking at these fools like, “I can’t believe this sheet”! Boller is better than JC and Bruce! Start this guy!!Give him his shot!!!

  • SnB Production

    Armond,

    Good post. The Raiders just don’t have a guy at QB to get it done right now. Both are limited. We all hoped and wished that one of these guys would emerge.

    But there is a reason why one of the QBs was given away for a late pick in two years…and the other was brought in to compete for the 3rd QB spot.

    The team is better though. Need a couple of lineman and a receiver…..got to go back to the well and try and find another QB

  • SnB Production

    Dhidee99,

    I am sure there are a couple of black pocket passers in D1-AA too.

    But regardless, I don’t care if there aren’t ANY black QBs, white corners or asian linebackers.

    NO PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO “OR TRY” SOMETHING!

  • armond

    the coaches dont have a clue but its al davis fault. the qb most of u wanted to see play screwed up but somehow davis is responsible. if bcampbell cant start then loper should be playin over cc. its pathetic how hujackman has messed sh!t up. ive been on him all season for a reason. we still dont see dmc as a downfield threat. bush has been ignored AGAIN and wth happenend with dhb? they have no clue how to adjust during the game. the team was flat for the 2nd straight week for some dumb reason. can it be this grads vs campbell bs?

  • kokomo
  • Dhidee99

    SnB Production Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    Dhidee99,

    I am sure there are a couple of black pocket passers in D1-AA too.

    But regardless, I don’t care if there aren’t ANY black QBs, white corners or asian linebackers.

    NO PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO “OR TRY” SOMETHING!

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I Agree With You Man But, I like Giving HiM Some Answers Becuase I want To Hear What His Dumb Arse Is going to Say Next. lol

  • armond

    snb some people just want to see things their way. like u said race should be the last fuggin issue right now. we just got our azzez kicked for 2 weeks now but the qbs ethnicity is an issue. then u wonder why we dont win around here. its enuff bs we put up with from the damn team!!

  • Dhidee99

    Post #266 Funny as Hell !

  • Dhidee99

    armond Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    snb some people just want to see things their way. like u said race should be the last fuggin issue right now. we just got our azzez kicked for 2 weeks now but the qbs ethnicity is an issue. then u wonder why we dont win around here. its enuff bs we put up with from the damn team!!

    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    WHA?

  • ArmChair GM

    The best QB in the NFL right now is Black. His name is Michael Vick.

    Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are numbers 2 and 3.

    Deal with it.

  • lefty12

    No he isn’t!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Well Said SnB.

    Race & religion has nothing to do with sports.
    Chinese playing BBall.
    Whites playing RBs and WRs in the NFL.
    Muslims playing Football.
    Americans playing soccer!

  • Dhidee99

    ArmChair GM Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
    The best QB in the NFL right now is Black. His name is Michael Vick.

    Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are numbers 2 and 3.

    Deal with it.

    ______________________________________________________________________________________

    Wha? You Smoking TOO

  • http://atm Raider O

    BTW, B Leftwich is a pocket passer.

  • Dhidee99

    DAT Nygen= LB

    JASON SEAHORN= CB

    AND THE jETS 3RD dOWN bACK iS NICE

  • SnB Production

    Its simpler than that.

    Just because Brady is white…doesn’t mean that Andrew Luck is automatically going to be a great QB.

    Luck could just as quickly become the next Trent Edwards…I mean, they both went to Stanford right?

    Like I said before, this line of thinking is so wrong on so many levels.

    Just judge each person on their own merits…not on what someone that may have similiar physical traits or accent did in the past.

  • Dhidee99

    Raider O Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
    BTW, B Leftwich is a pocket passer.

    ———————————————————————————————————-
    BTW HE SUCKS BALLS BIG BALLS

  • Dirtiest Raccoon

    Dhidee99 Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
    ArmChair GM Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
    The best QB in the NFL right now is Black. His name is Michael Vick.

    Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers are numbers 2 and 3.

    Deal with it.

    ****************

    Vick is a very good football player, one of the most dangerous QB’s NFL. BUT is not even close to Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rivers.

    As a passer Vick is prolly not even top ten.

    BUT Vick would be a awesome upgrade over anything we have!

  • http://atm Raider O

    And he was drafted in the 1st RD due to his pocket passing skills.

  • I am Spartacus

    Re: Post 66.

    Didn’t find it very funny. If Lowell Cohn followed the news reports all this week, he would know that Hue was every bit as instrumental as Cable in pushing for Gradkowski to start. Therefore, I see it as nothing more than a cheap shot from someone with an axe to grind.

  • Dirtiest Raccoon

    264.SnB Production Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    Dhidee99,

    I am sure there are a couple of black pocket passers in D1-AA too.

    But regardless, I don’t care if there aren’t ANY black QBs, white corners or asian linebackers.

    NO PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER PERSON THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO “OR TRY” SOMETHING!

    *****************

    WORD!

  • Dhidee99

    whA thA fHA?

  • http://atm Raider O

    I don’t care if he is good. He is a pocket passer & he is black! lol

  • Just Fire Baby

    Bruce was terribly and fitting that he got hurt. His career in a nutshell. Doubt he will ever play for the Silver and Black again.

    Just not sure why Hue Jackson would dial up a delayed, play-action bootleg, deep sideline pass against a cover 2, where arm-strength is paramount.

    If a bunch of bloggers can sense that Bruce does not have the arm for that type of play, why the F does our OC not know it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    # Dhidee99 Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Raider75 Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    Still waiting for 3 black pure pocket passers in college football right now…

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    my bad i was taking out the garbage

    #1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State

    #2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU

    #3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami

    #4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M

    That last kid from Texas Am The Raiders Should Take him with the 2rd pick next year he’s the best on this list.
    …..
    Johnson from A&M is NOT a pure pocket passer. That’s why Tannehill replaced him.

    As for the rest, good for them. Lets see how many of them end up in the NFL.

    For every black pocket passer there are 5 white guys.

    You guys can get mad all you want. Talk trash about me. Whatever.

    Where are all these black pure passers in NFL?

    Can a black guy be a pure pocket passer? Sure.

    If there are so many out there then why so few in NFL?

    Why are most in that category white? IDK. I just know that’s the way it is.

  • Dhidee99

    Aye just so yall know I dont Care what color a mans skin is just Freaking Win

  • priesttj

    In pocket out of pocket who gives a damn I just want to win. Pocket passing has it’s merits and so does a scrambler but the biggest attirbute is “winner” can the guy win ball games. Warren Moon was a great scrambler in college and had a great arm and accurate as any QB can you can think of and they told him to take his ass to Canada.

    Haven Moses and great college QB they told him to take his ass to WR position if we wanted to play. He was Warren Moon before Warren Moon.

    They were scramblers and so was Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton but for some reaosn they were allowed to do it. It doesn’t matter how you win just win…….period

  • Just Fire Baby

    Today we watched the last game Bruce may start, and the beginning of the end for Cable as a HC and Hue as an OC.

    Back to collegiate line-coaching for Tom, and coaching wides for Hue.

    They were so badly outclassed today, it was almost comical.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Look at what happened with W Moon. Race has nothing to do with one’s abilities to play sports.
    Whites can play BBall, skill positions in the NFL, etc….
    Blacks can be great QBs, great coaches, etc….
    It’s 2010!! WTF is wrong with You People?!

  • Just Fire Baby

    #1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State

    #2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU

    #3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami

    #4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M

    *************************************

    I thought we were talking about drafting a QB not looking at undrafted FA’s to pick up?

  • Dhidee99

    Raider75 You Suck Balls Too. Big Buffalo steamy in the winter balls!!! Elephant Balls on your face!!! Deez Balls in your Mouth!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Vegas,

    Dnt forget to add Marshall! He will be fired!

  • I am Spartacus

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    Today we watched the last game Bruce may start, and the beginning of the end for Cable as a HC and Hue as an OC.

    Back to collegiate line-coaching for Tom, and coaching wides for Hue.

    They were so badly outclassed today, it was almost comical.

    _____________________________________
    Yup. Entire organization outclassed from top to bottom.

  • http://www.beyonceonline.com/us/home DaRayduh

    Anybody know what Hue had to say after the game?

  • Dhidee99

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 28th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
    #1) 16 Russell Wilson NC State

    #2) 9 Jordan Jefferson LSU

    #3) 12 Jacory Harris Miami

    #4) Jerrod Johnson Texas A&M

    *************************************

    I thought we were talking about drafting a QB not looking at undrafted FA’s to pick up?

    ——————————————————————————————————–

    he just said people in College dummy!!!!

  • http://www.beyonceonline.com/us/home DaRayduh

    Anybody know what Marshall had to say after the game?

  • http://www.beyonceonline.com/us/home DaRayduh

    Anybody know what Al had to say after the game?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    The Raiders were 27th in the league in 3rd down conversions before the game today.

    They need a 3rd down goto play/plays. They’re wearing the defense out.

  • priesttj

    As long as they’re great players why does it matter if they’re pocket passers? What’s so great about pocket passing????

    There have been many and would be many more if the NFL would give them the opportunity. Lok around the NFL how many backup QB’s do you see that are black? not many well that has a lot to do with it. It’s no diferent than looking at that position as a whole they just wont let black QB’s sit and learn.