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Raiders revert, and it hurts

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 28th, 2010 at 10:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Brought back some bad memories, didn’t it?

The same team that went into its bye week at 5-4 and full of hope is either a shell of itself or has simply reverted to what it has been starting in 2003.

The Raiders were out-blocked, out-tackled and blacked out. They were inferior in both the passing game and the running game. Had it not been for Jacoby Ford and and a couple of early Miami failures in the red zone, a 33-17 loss to the Dolphins Sunday at the Coliseum would have been _ and probably should have been _ much worse.

If you’re looking for some positive reinforcement, check out another site. Having had no problem saying how good the Raiders have been during their three-game winning streak, putting flowers on this pig is not an option.

News, notes and observations from the Raiders’ most disappointing game of the season:

– Even up to the time when press box announcers are supposed to announce lineup changes, Jason Campbell was the alleged starter. Asked a media-relations member and was told, “We have no changes to announce.”

If only the Raiders could only get over on an opponent the way they did with the media. What an incredible waste of time for a team that claims to put all its emphasis on winning to act in such a moronic fashion.

Sure fooled everyone with that Bruce Gradkowski switch. Gradkowski said he learned he was starting “at the beginning of the week.” Campbell said he found out Tuesday. Cable said he realized Gradkowski would start Wednesday once he was 100 percent healthy.

Because, you know, it was always going to be Gradkowski’s job once he was healthy. Cable has contradicted himself on this several times, but no matter. Coaches aren’t obligated to tell the media the truth except when it suits their purposes, and now that Gradkowski is hurt, it doesn’t really matter.

Not that it was handled with aplomb. If the Raiders were actually trying to go out of their way to look ridiculous, they couldn’t have done any better.

It’s apparent Gradkowski (surprise!) is down for awhile, re-injuring his throwing shoulder. He didn’t want to talk about or think about it, but said it felt like it did following the first San Diego game. And he returned five weeks later.

So now Campbell is back in the saddle, unless Kyle Boller is warming up in the bullpen. I heard second-hand Sunday night the reason Campbell was benched is that he’s not right for the Raiders as currently constituted, considering his issues with a pass rush and the club’s problems at wide receiver.

– Campbell wasn’t pretending to understand the double-talk, on one hand being told Gradkowski would get the job when healthy, and on the other hand still getting the start against Pittsburgh.

“My thing was in the Pittsburgh game, well, he was healthy,” Campbell said.

– Behind the scenes, the Raiders are fighting the perception that Campbell is the favorite of Al Davis, while Gradkowski is preferred by Cable and Hue Jackson.

“You’re a competitor and you like to compete, but by no means are you understanding or anything,” Campbell said. “It’s kind of tough because you’re caught right in between something and you don’t know what’s going on.”

Must be all that great communication Cable has talked about with his quarterback.

– Darren McFadden has fallen and he can’t get up.

In the last two games, McFadden, who has looked every bit the No. 4 overall pick in 2008, has 16 yards on 18 carries. Yes, there are issues with the offensive line. Privately, the coaching staff is concerned that he’s not running as he did before.

Right tackle Langston Walker seemed to think opposing teams are simply taking him (and other Raiders running backs) away.

“If teams are smart, if they have good defensive coordinators, they are going to load up against the run when they play us,” Walker said.

– The more Jacoby Ford does, the more damning it is for Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Telling moment _ Gradkowski has Heyward-Bey in single coverage on his left, with the safety drifting cheating toward the middle. He sees this, drops back, and lets fly a deep pass down the right sideline toward Marcel Reece. It is intercepted by Yeremiah Bell. Gradkowski said he was giving Reece a chance, given what he’s shown as a playmaker. He never considered Heyward-Bey even after he saw the coverage.

Reece is an intriguing but undrafted wide receiver turned tight end turned fullback. Heyward-Bey is the No. 7 overall pick in the 2009 draft and the alleged deep threat of the future.

The coaching staff is starting to reduce Heyward-Bey’s time on the field. He had far fewer snaps than normal and when asked if Heyward-Bey was still nursing a sore hamstring, Cable said it was simply a factor of the wide receiver rotation.

Not sure if another Raiders receiver is capable of making the 44-yard touchdown grab from Gradkowski, smoothly hauling it in while turning to his left and stradding the sideline for the score. He later repeated his magic act of taking an interception away from a defender with his 52-yard reception to set up a field goal.

– Davone Bess of the Dolphins caught six passes for 116 yards, had three punt returns for 60 yards with a long of 47, and the Raiders had no interest in him as an undrafted free agent. He went to Skyline High, grew up within sight distance of the Coliseum and was a big fan of Tim Brown.

Bess doesn’t have the 40-yard dash time Al Davis prefers, but his skills as a receiver are off the charts. He had subtle pushoffs on at least two catches worthy of a 10-year veteran.

“I’m excited to come home and get to play in front of my home city, my family, my friends, all my close ones that supported me through this,” Bess said. “Just to get the W, that’s my focus. Just get the win.”

– It was almost comical to see the Raiders go into damage control mode, with players getting serious briefings about what to say and not to say if scheduled to take the podium. Players shrug their heads at this later and laugh when it’s brought up informally.

– Zach Miller is confirming that is original “arch injury” was a torn plantar fascia, a very slow-to-heal condition. He hurt his right leg later in the game. Cable called it a “fibula” injury. Miller caught one pass for six yards and is currently a shell of himself.

– When winning, every move a coach makes seems to work out, and then you have Walter McFadden.

McFadden had a good week of practice following a game in which Jeremy Ware got poor reviews from coaches against Pittsburgh. So McFadden was the nickel back, but for some reason, Ware was inactive even though Chris Johnson was out with a groin strain and Nnamdi Asomugha was playing with an ankle injury.

McFadden got torched for five catches and 113 yards, including four third down conversions and another on third down because of a defensive holding penalty. Asomugha, who had given up five catches for 87 yards all season, gave up four receptions for 65 yards and also had a holding penalty resulting in a Miami first down. He conceded afterward he couldn’t plant and turn _ sort of a prerequisite for playing cornerback.

With Ware inactive, it’s not like Asomugha had any choice but to stay in the game.

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  • http://atm Raider O

    The Raiders can’t develop QBs!!!
    Stabler is the exception and not the norm.

  • RaiderRockstar

    We need to draft based more on College production and not 40 times

    ***

    Agreed with Jimbo!

  • YoungAmerican

    Bruce Campbell might be cut if Cable isn’t around next year. It’s worrying that he can’t get on the field, especially because the guy he’s backing up has been horrendous.

  • Thec07

    Jimbo Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:55 am
    Thec07 Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am
    BCamp is another project that we should let go too.
    +++++++++++

    I dont know anything about BCamp, only that he looked good in presea…

    That said, too early to tell. Cable may be playing favorites…He cannot be worse than carlisle, and walker…Those too are bums…

    *********

    How do you know he can’t be worse? What have you seen of him in real play?

    Call a spade a spade and cut him. He’s not worth the roster spot. You don’t strike gold with every pick. a failed 4th rounder isn’t headline news. It happens, time to move on. He’s another project that we should avoid. We need to draft based more on College production and not 40 times.

    +++++++++++++=

    I guess you didnt read the part where i said I dont know anything about Bruce Campbell. How is he a failed 4th ronder when neither of us have seen him???

    ridiculous…

  • Teabag

    # Thec07 Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Again…. Ponder, Mallett, Locker and Luck are the only QB’s I trust to “plug in” .. this team CANNOT develop QB’s… they never have….

    +++++++++++

    You trust….okay…glad you have that kinda pull at the org….So if the team cannot develop QB’s why bring a youngster in and ruin him, per your logic…
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Who is to say he would be “ruined”??

    You say “draft the best O Lineman available” … I say draft the best PLAYER available..

    Ponder in the middle of the second would be great value.

    and if a Locker or Newton drop to that spot… I don’t care what lineman is available, you take them.

    You don’t draft for need, you draft the BPA. And QB or OL… are both need positions..

  • DHitzz

    SnB Production Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:52 am
    The Raiders will not get a franchise QB. So you have to spin the wheel and hope you land a guy that sticks.

    You are going to get someone elses damaged goods.

    That’s why teams like the Rams, Bucs, Lions and Jets went all out to get that young QB to develop.

    This is not the 1980s….you get a free agent QB, he’s either old, or has serious flaws.

    Brees was available because of injury and he hadn’t matured…..Vick was available because of the dog fighting….Favre was available because of unique circumstances.

    You don’t have the guy on the roster…go get another one.

    Here’s what I am doing with the QB situation. Bring back Jason Campbell and Bruce Campbell for camp….bring in a young undrafted free agent or late round QB and bring in another free agent (Palmer?) and just have a free for all battle royale for the job.

    Keep the young kid no matter what…and pick the winners of the rest.

    ***************************************************

    SNB Production you will not get any PRODUCTION from the QB spot unless we fix the O-line. When the Raiders are good the oline is good. Check the History.

  • http://atm Raider O

    WTF?!?! Cut B Campbell?!?!
    Why not cut S Williams, N Miller, lopez, Bennett, Rock, or Eugene? Why cut our rookie, and the most athletic OL we have?! Makes no sense!

  • Jimbo

    Rockstar:

    I think that these moves are crazy Al’s meddling of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. This idea that linemen can be “versatile” just puts them out of their comfort zone. In the old days, linemen could switch around, but in the new era line packages, it’s more important than ever to maintain continuity. I don’t think that Cable ever fully signed on to the school of linemen versatility. I think it was forced down his puppet throat.

    ********

    guys like Veldheer & Campbell are probably being wasted by Cable. Veldheer was a 4 year starter at LT in college and never gave up a sack! Cable promptly drafts the guy and asks him to also learn to play Center … what ???

    BCamp was a starter at LT in college (Maryland). excellent combine and potential off the charts. Cable drafts him and asks him to only play RG?

    the transition from college to pros is hard enough imo. cant have these guys learning different positions or even multiple positions as rookies and expect them to dominate right away or even seize starting jobs!

    BCamp should have been learning LT or RT only from Day 1, if for no other reason than Henderson & Walker suck

  • J Hill

    JaDavis was high on Syrup and had Justin Fargas and a raw DHB (LOL) and a rookie Murphy and he had a better QB rating than JaBruce and JaJason.

    ——————————————————

    That’s just amazing, isn’t it?

  • Thec07

    YoungAmerican Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
    Bruce Campbell might be cut if Cable isn’t around next year. It’s worrying that he can’t get on the field, especially because the guy he’s backing up has been horrendous.

    ++++++++++++++

    Those guys are veteran cable guys….Does politics ever play in who gets in and who doesnt…i havent seen enough of him to evaluate him one way or another, nor has anyone on this blog…

    You guys trust cable the oline guru, right now cable can be shown the door, wouldnt make a diff to me…

  • YoungAmerican

    Sorry, you can’t win in this league anymore with a scrap heap QB. It just doesn’t happen, unless the rest of the team is stacked with Pro Bowlers.

    A team needs to believe their QB is the guy, not the guy another team didn’t want.

    The Raiders can’t develop a QB? Well by that logic, there are lots of positions they’ve failed to develop over the years. Should the Raiders stop drafting those positions, too?

    Would any other team have been able to develop Marinovich and Russell?

    Does lack of recent draft success mean you just give up on trying to find the right pieces?

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  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    314.Teabag Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am

    Does it matter? I’m not morally grounded like most people. Let’s be consistent. College football makes a huge fortune off the backs of these kids anyway. I’m not mad for them getting something back.

    Especially when a lot of these kids come from having nothing.

    Some of the more “fortunate” prospects don’t have to worry about their “Daddies shopping them around” because their families are already well off to begin with…

    Just sayin’
    +++++++++++

    So a free education means nothing? You are supposed to be broke when in college. That is half the challenge…and these guys walk away with a free education if they choose to take advantage of it afterwards. I don’t fel bad for these poor kids who are pissed because they can’t drive a new car while playing for USC. Poor babies…oh, and you don’t have $300 to blow on booze for the weekend? Oh cry me a river!

    You put no value on a $75K-$100K free education and you cry about not having enough spending money for toys. FU. Get student loans to live on and pay them off when you strike it rich.

    People are f-ing crazy to think these kids deserve more. Only a handful of universities make a ton of money on college football, and most of them have to use that money to prop up the other sports teams on campus because they lose money. If teams were allowed to play players you might as well simply create a new division with just Texas, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, Neb, LSU, OSU, Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma…because most of the rest would never be able to compete.

  • Teabag

    # YoungAmerican Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    Sorry, you can’t win in this league anymore with a scrap heap QB. It just doesn’t happen, unless the rest of the team is stacked with Pro Bowlers.

    A team needs to believe their QB is the guy, not the guy another team didn’t want.

    The Raiders can’t develop a QB? Well by that logic, there are lots of positions they’ve failed to develop over the years. Should the Raiders stop drafting those positions, too?

    Would any other team have been able to develop Marinovich and Russell?

    Does lack of recent draft success mean you just give up on trying to find the right pieces?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    QB is the only “developmental” position, dude.

    ANY other position is expected to step in right away.

  • DHitzz

    JaDavis was high on Syrup and had Justin Fargas and a raw DHB (LOL) and a rookie Murphy and he had a better QB rating than JaBruce and JaJason.

    ——————————————————

    That’s just amazing, isn’t it?
    ***************************************************
    Its Amazing but with Ja-Rookie-Pay-Scale-adjustment-needed he could make throws only Campbell and Grads dream of his arm was amazing. However QB position is more than just arm strength, Poise and compusure from Campbell, Brave and Enthusiasm from Grads…So mix all three and thats probably what the Raiders really want and need.

  • YoungAmerican

    I didn’t say he should be cut. I said that a guy who isn’t Cable might not have the same kind of patience with him. Wouldn’t be the first time a new regime comes to a team and gets rid of late-round developmental players who don’t fit in on the field.

  • YoungAmerican

    QB is the only “developmental” position, dude.

    ANY other position is expected to step in right away.

    ———–

    That’s just not accurate at all.

  • Teabag

    # Dakota Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    314.Teabag Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am

    Does it matter? I’m not morally grounded like most people. Let’s be consistent. College football makes a huge fortune off the backs of these kids anyway. I’m not mad for them getting something back.

    Especially when a lot of these kids come from having nothing.

    Some of the more “fortunate” prospects don’t have to worry about their “Daddies shopping them around” because their families are already well off to begin with…

    Just sayin’
    +++++++++++

    So a free education means nothing? You are supposed to be broke when in college. That is half the challenge…and these guys walk away with a free education if they choose to take advantage of it afterwards. I don’t fel bad for these poor kids who are pissed because they can’t drive a new car while playing for USC. Poor babies…oh, and you don’t have $300 to blow on booze for the weekend? Oh cry me a river!

    You put no value on a $75K-$100K free education and you cry about not having enough spending money for toys. FU. Get student loans to live on and pay them off when you strike it rich.

    People are f-ing crazy to think these kids deserve more. Only a handful of universities make a ton of money on college football, and most of them have to use that money to prop up the other sports teams on campus because they lose money. If teams were allowed to play players you might as well simply create a new division with just Texas, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, Neb, LSU, OSU, Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma…because most of the rest would never be able to compete.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Sure, I do… But again, it sounds tome like you have more of an issue with the NCAA D-I football program than the athletes themselves…

    Who offers these kids the money?? Why is it only a handful of school that can AFFORD to pay them that money??

    Why don’t most of these school stress academics more?? They let these athletes slide… and it’s for a reason!!

    The cash cow will tip over if they don’t…

    And all the programs you listed “Texas, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, Neb, LSU, OSU, Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma”..

    you’re crazy to think somebody isn’t backing the Brinks truck up for the ratings they pull in on gameday…

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    330.garcia Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    With all of the complaints about qb play and wr’s is no one noticing the run game has disappeared? When you run the ball the other things tend to fall into place.
    +++++++++++

    lol…run to set up the pass? Haven’t heard that since the 1980s! When a D focuses on taking away your run, I don’t care who you are, your run game is going to suffer…and when you have below average o-line and QB play, the run game tends to disappear. Our o-line and QB have to play at least at a respectable level for our run game to have a chance.

  • http://www.aflciodental.com/unions/IBEW.png The Real Ray

    Good Morning Raider Nation!!

  • YoungAmerican

    The Raiders took away the Steelers’ run game, but it didn’t stop the Steelers from carving up the Raider secondary.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I think that these moves are crazy Al’s meddling of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

    ***

    I don’t know man. I think the “best 5 guys” thing is all Cable!

    no doubt Al Davis wants to see more of Mario Henderson & Jason Campbell (ie HIS GUYS) but not at the expense of losing ballgames

    I think AD is finally listening to his coaches, because I can’t see yanking JCamp for Gradkowski or drafting McClain, Houston & Veldheer with the first 3 picks as classic AD moves. He pitched Walrus, Fargas, Warren & Walker this past offseason too

    If Cable is fired (and he should be!) it’ll be interesting to see if Al Davis will listen to the new staff

  • http://www.aflciodental.com/unions/IBEW.png The Real Ray

    Its time to cut the cable!!

  • Teabag

    Cable gotta go..

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  • http://www.aflciodental.com/unions/IBEW.png The Real Ray

    Bush is gone after this year. I dont see us giving him the franchise tag.
    Bush is a good back and deserves better. He kinda of reminds me of Turner.
    My money is on Bush being a feature back with an other team and making the pro-bowl!
    …..just like Turner!
    Sad..but true

  • DHitzz

    Dakota Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:06 am
    330.garcia Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    With all of the complaints about qb play and wr’s is no one noticing the run game has disappeared? When you run the ball the other things tend to fall into place.
    +++++++++++

    lol…run to set up the pass? Haven’t heard that since the 1980s! When a D focuses on taking away your run, I don’t care who you are, your run game is going to suffer…and when you have below average o-line and QB play, the run game tends to disappear. Our o-line and QB have to play at least at a respectable level for our run game to have a chance.

    *************************************************

    I totally agree. Funny folks say about the run game. Well its only as good as the line play is. If you cannot run thats because they stacking 8 man fronts and daring you to throw and if they do throw sophisticatd blitz D’s like Pitt and Miami will expose our offense. Dont be pissed folks were just getting exposed the same exposure we did to other teams happened to us. Your line play is a must. TEams like Pitt will always challenge in this league because they put a great deal of interst in having good line play on both sides of the ball.

  • Jimbo

    RaiderRockstar:

    Not debated you, or even arguing.

    But why should Cable be fired? Did he not do as the boss instructed? Would you fire the janitor if the CEO bankrupted his company?

  • http://www.aflciodental.com/unions/IBEW.png The Real Ray

    Oakland’s 33-17 meltdown against Miami on Sunday could prove to be their defining loss of their season.

    Coming off an embarrassing performance, the Raiders were embarrassed again. In a battle of two AFC hopefuls on the edge of the playoff race, the Dolphins looked hungrier, tougher, and built with a better running game.

    The Raiders hid the identity of their starting quarterback all week, then watched Bruce Gradkowski seriously hurt his shoulder again. Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune says it’s “apparent” Gradkowski is “down for a while” and Jason Campbell will take over. Campbell doesn’t quite understand why he was replaced.

    “It’s kind of tough because you’re caught right in between something and you don’t know what’s going on,” Campbell said after the game.

    The news only gets worse. Privately, members of the coaching staff tell McDonald that Darren McFadden isn’t running the same way as he did before getting hurt. McFadden has 18 yards on 16 carries over the last two weeks.

    Tight end Zach Miller has a torn plantar fascia and couldn’t finish Sunday’s game because of a “fibula” injury. He has 23 yards in the last three games he’s played.

    Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha admitted he couldn’t plant and turn Sunday. He gave up four receptions for 65 yards and incurred a holding penalty.

    Oh, and the team is traveling to San Diego this week with their season essentially on the line.

    Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    And all the programs you listed “Texas, Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Penn State, Neb, LSU, OSU, Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma”..

    you’re crazy to think somebody isn’t backing the Brinks truck up for the ratings they pull in on gameday…
    ++++++++++++++++

    Of course those teams make money, a lot of money. That is the point. How are you going to make things fair? Make Notre Dame share revenue with the University of Iowa so that the entire NCAA football structure doesn’t fold? A hand full of teams make the money, the rest just survive and hope to use some profits to improve their university. So allowing teams to pay those players will make it impossible for most teams to even field a team. Just plain crazy talk.

    You get a free education. You can still get student loans to cover your living expenses. I simply don’t see the problem. And even if you are not a great player and don’t get a full ride, you still walk away with credibility in the community and can probably get any normal job you want in that town, if not that State!

    The smart players take advantage of all of the benefits provided to them by the opportunity to play collegiate sports…the rest are just too ignorant to recognize their opportunities. Tough schyt…welcome to the real world.

  • RaiderRockstar

    You guys trust cable the oline guru, right now cable can be shown the door, wouldnt make a diff to me…

    ***

    agreed with Thec!

  • Thec07

    Advocating We cut Bruce Campbell is rediculous…

  • Thec07

    we go 6-10, cable will get run, and rightfully so…
    He is not an NFL head coach, he is a stop gap…

  • http://www.aflciodental.com/unions/IBEW.png The Real Ray

    Bruce or Jason?

  • olinesux

    cable should be fired for the o lines wussy play….

  • Thec07

    Bush is gone after this year. I dont see us giving him the franchise tag.
    +++++++++++

    watch him sign with a team with a real HC, and OC…
    he is going to rip….

  • Thec07

    The Real Ray Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:20 am
    Bruce or Jason?

    ++++++++

    Flip a coin…
    One will underthown, and get himself wacked.
    The other will get sacked, and get himself wacked.

  • YoungAmerican

    Does anybody read? I didn’t say Bruce Campbell should be cut. You lot have the attention spans of goldfish.

  • Jimbo

    Thec07 Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:19 am
    Advocating We cut Bruce Campbell is rediculous…

    ******

    Not nearly as redonkulous (sp) as proclaiming Jacoby Ford to be behind Nick Miller on the depth chart.

  • J Hill

    At this point, it really doesn’t matter who the coach is going to be next year. That coach is going to need a new C, RG, and RT.

    He’s also going to need a new group of WRs. DHB is a #4 WR and Murphy is a #5. Ford should be the slot guy, so we need a #1 and #2.

  • Thec07

    If Cable is fired (and he should be!) it’ll be interesting to see if Al Davis will listen to the new staff

    +++++++++++

    If cable is fired, he can take Hue with him…

  • RaiderRockstar

    why should Cable be fired? Did he not do as the boss instructed? Would you fire the janitor if the CEO bankrupted his company?

    ***

    I don’t see Cable as a janitor type or even timout coordinator as Dakota puts it. I have little doubt that Al Davis told Cable to keep the starting QB thing hush hush to the media, but that alone doesn’t make him a puppet. Many HC’s around the league are not play callers or O-Line coaches, so I’m not going to assume Cable has zero responsibility for wins & losses here. He appears to have Al’s ear and thats important. But it also appears that the things he’s lobbied for haven’t worked. He’s a bonehead. Al Davis hired Hue Jackson to run the offense, so that goes on him. Cable has a say in who starts though and some input on draft day imo. When this team comes out unmotivated & unprepared but you know they have the talent to win, it reflects poorly on the Head Coach.

    why do you think Phillips & Childress were fired? and why those teams have played better since new guys replaced them?

  • Thec07

    Jimbo Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:23 am
    Thec07 Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:19 am
    Advocating We cut Bruce Campbell is rediculous…

    ******

    Not nearly as redonkulous (sp) as proclaiming Jacoby Ford to be behind Nick Miller on the depth chart.

    ++++++++++++

    If you look at the lol’s it was a joke….

  • YoungAmerican

    Ford is like an Eddie Royal/Wes Welker player. Can be a very effective slot guy in three-wide sets, but can also play in a two-wide set. Still, the Raiders need a true #1 guy, and at least one other receiver as reliable as Ford has been lately.

  • http://www.aflciodental.com/unions/IBEW.png The Real Ray

    Ford #1 WR, Murphy #2 WR, Miller #3 WR, DHB…???

  • Thec07

    Jimbo Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 9:23 am
    ++++++++++=

    Most of the Pro’s, and Semi Pro’s on this blog know exactly where I stand when it comes to JFORD…

  • RaiderRockstar

    DHB is a #4 WR and Murphy is a #5. Ford should be the slot guy, so we need a #1 and #2.

    ***

    Jhill, come on brotha man

    2011 depth chart

    1 – Ford
    2 – Higgins
    3 – Murphy
    4 – Heyward Bey
    5 – Nick Miller
    6 – Chaz Schilens (3 games)

  • SnB Production

    The JaDavis example shows why teams pay those kids all that money. JaDavis didn’t even try…out of shape, ddidn’t study, high on syrup…etc..etc..with a worse coaching staff and supporting cast and does slightly better than these two saavy veterans.

    Shows that talent means a hell of a lot in football. Of course, JaDavis’ behavior was deplorable…and in many ways you are better off losing with the Gradkowski/Campbell experiment…but it just goes to show that talent is EVERYTHING!

    Even more than heart!

    Now if you have talent AND heart…then you have something….of course that’s what the Raiders are trying to look for.

    Maybe invite JaDavis back to camp next year????? Probably not

  • YoungAmerican

    Hard to see JLH still being a Raider in 2011.

  • DMAC

    Morning peoples!

    So can we finally end this Bruce/Campbell controversy?

    THEY BOTH S_UCK!