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By Jon Becker
Monday, November 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.

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  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Al Davis saddles a Coach with all of his out of date Isms, Edicts, and Philosophies, AND his pets. Then when it doesn’t work he get’s all his stooges and flunkies to blame the Coach.

    And on and on…………

  • mistic1

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Don’t get the hate on the O-line still. It is all on the QB.

    As opposed to the Campbell guys who love to blame anything and everything on something else but him, I say our O-line had NOTHING to do with Bruce’s sub-par game yesterday. That’s right NOTHING.

    Miami basically went out and made Hue, Bruce and our inexperienced WR’s beat them, and they failed. Not much an O-line can do when they are sending 6,7,8 guys at the LOS each play. A few screens worked, but not enough short, move the chain type plays were called or executed to get the job done.

    The deep pass on the sideline to Ford was just awful. No way should Bruce ever think he could make that play, and no way should Hue ever think that Bruce could make that play. WTF were both of them thinking? It was 20-14 and 1st and 10 after two of our only successful runs equaled a much needed first. Bruce should have tucked it and run, Hue should have called the play-action but a different route. Talk about not knowing your personnel!!!

    I never blamed the O-line for Campbell’s issues, and I won’t blame the O-line for Bruce’s either. The QB is making them look awful by not being able to make defenses pay for consistantly crowding the LOS.
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    JFB,

    the o-line’s run blocking was horrific yesterday and last week. the pass protection last week was non existent as the steelers blitz us back to three rivers stadium.

    However this week grads got decent pass protection, but he whiffed with no pressure on him. he was under a pass rush or blitz at all. However he badly he under threw passes, and was wildly off target.

    You are right you cant blame pass protection for grads abysmal performance.

  • aig-raiders

    Armchair,

    I have no problem admitting Grad sucked and Ford made the numbers looked better than it really should. The only good throw Grad made was that TD pass to Ford. That was a good pass by the QB and great catch and run by Ford.

    I still like Grad. I saw his post game presser and he was accountable for his mistakes rather than listening to JC saying “it was one of those days”. However, where I may differ with a lot of people is I dont think Grad was 100% yesterday. I have a hunch his shoulder really needs surgery. Even 10 yard passes didnt have any zip to them.

    It’s really sobering to be pulled back into reality with regards to our season.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The O-line is responsible for run blocking too, and they are the single biggest reason that D Mcfadden had absolutely no holes to run through on Sunday. None!

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    Your asking 5 lineman a TE and a FB to block 8 guys.

    Never going to happen. You can brink back Art Shell, Gene Upshaw and Jim Otto, and with Bruce Campbellkowski playing QB, they would look like fools.

    Defenses don’t even care if we throw the ball. Why do you think everyone on Miami’s defense followed the play-action on the end zone INT and left Ford wide open for a minute?

    Because they knew no way in hell Bruce could make that throw. Everyone on this blog, on Miami’s defense and the stands knew, except Hue and Bruce.

  • mistic1

    # aig-raiders Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    yesterday. I have a hunch his shoulder really needs surgery. Even 10 yard passes didnt have any zip to them.

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    When has grad ever had any zip? Other than the loud zip of the body bag closing up the sham of his career.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Hmm. I almost missed this. The 3 game win streak was a mirage.

    These are the Raiders: W.Mcfadden.

    For a team that has 15 DBs on the roster, to play W.McFadden was pretty pathetic.

    Nice job on the personel.

  • Mistabrown

    Jerry put the heat on Cable in the presser today.
    :)

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Ford wasn’t wide open for a minute on the TD. he was wide open on the INT, but way underthrown.

  • VanHeathen

    Cable needs to stop these freakin mind games w/ his team and get the best players on the field regardless of all this other BS…
    I like Grads, but he should have been sat after half time, it was obvious his arm wasn’t right…
    Cable is coaching like he’s got to prove his value, which makes me think Hue’s got Al’s attention and it’s making Cable insecure…

  • Mistabrown

    Romo needs to coach our LB’s get that guy on our staff!

  • Dhidee99

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  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Can’t really ask Grads to make jeff gorge passes, just like you can’t ask campbell to run mike vick bootlegs. please game plan according to the dudes on the field, not in your dreams.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Ford catch for a TD was a great throw under pressure.

    Call it luck, call it whatever, it was a great read and toss from Bruce, and he got creamed by an unblocked blitzer right after it left his hand. That’s how you slow down a pass-rush and open up the running game, by beating it, not blaming the O-lineman and throwing a bunch of draft picks at the issue.

    Should have been more calls for those type of plays.

  • Mistabrown

    Retard.
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    Dhidee99 Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

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  • aig-raiders

    I personally think W/L record is not that significant for a QB. Kinda like W/L record for a pitcher. You have to depend on the defense and spec team to hold their end of the bargain. I think QB rating, yds per reception and turnover ratios are much more accurate measurements like ERA and walks for a pitcher.

  • Raiders for life

    What the heck happened? We had an optimistic preseason with little to no drama and now we’re back to “As the world fckn turns”
    Seems like the whole team is playing soft football until Al figures this shizz out. IMO

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    I like Cable´s mind games. It confuses the hell out of everybody, friend and foe. You can ask Herrera what the hell is going on, and he wont know just like that pot smoking dude kawakami. Its all in good fun, you see.

  • olinesux

    if its any consilation it wont be vincent jackson burning mcfadden (hei is out two weeks) but seyi aritutu (tootoo)….

  • aig-raiders

    Yeah that TD play to Ford,

    The pass was thrown before Ford made his cut and put in the only place Ford could get it. I have to admit I initially thought it was an overthrow but man Ford is a beast.

    The only way Bruce can beat you is by being on time. He doesnt have the arm strength to offset being late.

  • Just Fire Baby

    QB rating is like WHIP for pitchers.

    The most pertinant measure of what THEY are doing.

    I do think that W-L for a QB is very important, because of the leadership that a QB must provide.

    Same as a HC.

  • YoungAmerican

    What kind of play? The kind of play that works?

    It’s all about execution. The fact is this team was outperformed again. The run blocking was terrible. The QB made a lot of questionable decisions. When basic things like that go wrong, it’s pretty hard to open up the play book.

  • J Hill

    JFB,

    You make a half way convincing argument about the Oline.

    Jerry mentioned the coaches acknowledging the pass protection issues as a reason to go with Gardowski instead of Camplunkk.

    I’m talking about run plays where one of our guys is on the ground or in the backfield. I’m talking about pass protection where guys are running free at the QB.

    Too many times this happens and has been happening. Especially from Carlisle and Satele.

  • mistic1

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    The Ford catch for a TD was a great throw under pressure.

    Call it luck, call it whatever, it was a great read and toss from Bruce, and he got creamed by an unblocked blitzer right after it left his hand. That’s how you slow down a pass-rush and open up the running game, by beating it, not blaming the O-lineman and throwing a bunch of draft picks at the issue.

    Should have been more calls for those type of plays.
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    there were plenty of passes that could have defeated the pedestrian pass rush from the dolphins, grads missed on them.

    He missed even with zero pressure, he flat out sucked. he has the arm of a prepubescent girl.

  • aig-raiders

    JFB,

    you ever read moneyball?

  • olinesux

    oh yeah and the oline stillsux….

  • Dhidee99

    Mistabrown Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    Retard.
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    Dhidee99 Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

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  • Just Fire Baby

    You make a half way convincing argument about the Oline.

    ********************************

    Thank you, it’s what I get paid to do.

    Convince people to do things or agree to things that they don’t really want to, lol.

  • Dhidee99

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    November 29th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    You make a half way convincing argument about the Oline.

    ********************************

    Thank you, it’s what I get paid to do.

    Convince people to do things or agree to things that they don’t really want to, lol.

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    do you sale cars?

  • YoungAmerican

    This team is still lacking some of the basic pieces that it takes to consistently win in this league. I don’t think there was any questioning that going into this season.

    The disappointing thing is that they DO show flashes of dominance occasionally.

    But everything has to go right for them. The QB needs to make the right decisions. The offensive line has to stand up to pressure. The offense needs to sustain drives so the defense isn’t on the field for 80% of the game (which is exceptionally difficult when you play mostly man-to-man schemes). The defense needs to play disciplined football. The coaches need to make the right adjustments at the half. When one or more of these parts of the team doesn’t work, the team seems to fall apart. They still can’t seem to compensate for their deficiencies.

    They’ve made strides, but some new blood needs to come aboard to consistently play the kind of football they intend on playing. Truthfully, I don’t know if it’s coaches, players or both. But it seems like they’re close, so let’s just hope they can win a few more games this season, and make the right adjustments in the off-season.

  • JB

    So the rumors have Gruden going to the Niners as HC next year. Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do. Chuck is a Raider at heart and if anyone should be HC here in Oakland, it should be Gruden.

  • Dhidee99

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  • r8rwill

    The Ford catch for a TD was a great throw under pressure. you are joking right?
    the ford catch was a great catch and run by ford..grad threw the ball ten yards at best..grad stunk up the place all day. you can spin it any way you like, it might change your mind. it won’t change the facts.

  • bg22958

    Perhaps the biggest problem Campbell is facing is that we only gave up a 4th rounder for him. If we paid as much for him as KC gave up for Cassell than perhaps he wouldn’t have to face silly secretive benchings for a guy of Gradkoski’s caliber.

    In other words, doesn’t anyone else realize that it takes time for a QB to gel with a new OC, WR’s, & linemen. The real question is, if given time, can Campbell & this offense develop the way Cassell & the KC offense has blossomed this year.

    I for one am interested in finding out before we panic and throw the whole thing to the scrap heap and start over with a new coach, new QB, or mortgage our entire future for Andrew Luck – even though he may be that good.

  • rayda

    hey raiders i am going to this week game and wacth you guys kick some ass….kill the chokers!!! hey Richard slap Rivers for the Raider NATION!!!!

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