Cable Q&A
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 1st, 2010 at 4:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A transcript of Raiders coach Tom Cable’s post-game press briefing Wednesday with the Bay Area media:
Cable: Chaz Schilens practiced in a limited role, see if he can do a little bit more tomorrow. Zach Miller practiced limited, Bruce Gradkowski did not, Richard Seymour practiced limited, Asomugha, Branch and Chris Johnson did not practice.
Q: Which of those are most likely to play?
Cable: I would say Branch and then Asomugha, both of those guys.
Q: Asomugha went for second MRI, did it prove OK?
Cable::It’s just sore.
Q: Thoughts on Ford being AFC Special teams player of the month?
Cable: I just heard that. That’s a tremendous deal for our team. Obviously he has made a couple of big plays but he’s growing and he’s showing up more and more with each game. Hopefully we can do it again in December.
Q: Might he return punts at some point?
Cable: It’s something that we worked on at camp. I think that maybe that will be in his future but not right now.
Q: : Difference between a punt returner and kickoff returner?
Cable: :It’s the ball. The mentality’s the same but it’s a much different football that’s coming down. One’s turning over and spiraling and it matters whether it’s a right-footed or left-footed kicker, how the ball moves right to left and left to right, where kickoffs are end over end and pretty much sail.
Q: Is Jacoby currently a starter?
Cable: Based on our health at that position, yes.
Q: So you expect him to be out there this week?
Cable: Just depends on the health at that position.
Q: Is Darrius still struggling . . .
Cable: Actually he looked good today. Practiced the whole practice, looked very good, caught a lot of balls, a lot of tough balls today. It’s good to see him back.
Q: There was an issue vs. Miami with his health?
Cable: A little bit. He was tight and sore before the game.
Q: Could Chaz play this week?
Cable: Let’s see what tomorrow brings before we go down that path. But I just talked to him after practice and he said he felt really good, so that’s a real positive.
Q: Thomas Howard reinserted himself back in the defense?
Cable: I think we’re getting there. I think he showed up the other day when Kamerion got the cut in his hand and had to go in there and play some snaps and did a really good job. So I think, A, he’s back healthy and B, if he’s needed I think he’s ready to go.
Q: Do you see him as a strong side or weak side player?
Cable: I think really they’re kind of inner-changeable. So you would say, both ways.
Q: On the other side, Goethel is playing more often now, is in the mix also?
Cable: You know, it’s been about 50-50. But yes, he’s playing more because obviously he wasn’t in there for quite some time. But I think those two guys are splitting time and he’s doing some good things and we’ll just take that as it goes.
Q: How did Shaughnessy show up with the additional work with Trevor Scott out?
Cable: There’s an issue there in terms of getting the right rotation now because of really only having the two. We’ll see what we can get done with Jarvis Moss this week in terms of preparation, if we ca get him as part of that rotation.
Q: How much did Shaughnessy play?
Cable: A ton. I don’t have the snaps right off the top of my head but it was quite a bit.
Q: Speaking of the rotation, will any of these guys play end and tackle?
Cable: You know, the one guy that can do that is Desmond Bryant. He can play inside and then move outside to spell you. But I would say, maybe in nickel, you might see Lamarr Houston go inside. We’ve done that a little bit. But really, to answer your question, no, I don’t see those guys moving in there very much.
Q: What went into decision to have Nick Miller inactive?
Cable: Numbers. You only get 45, plus your 3rd quarterback and we’re only going to dress four receivers, at least at this point.
Q: Is Bruce healthy enough to be your 3rd QB?
Cable: We’ll see about that. He is sore, no worse for wear in terms of the damage from before. But if he took another shot, we’ll have to see how this goes.
Q: If he’s not, are you comfortable two quarterbacks or would you look for a third quarterback?
Cable: Well I think that’s something that will have to be sat down and discussed, you know? And we’ll know that here pretty quick on that, I’m sure.
Q: Are you optimistic he’ll be healthy by end of season?
Cable: Potentially. I mean, they’re telling me it’s a week or two now, so, um, you’re talking about five weeks from now. Maybe.
Q: Jason is the starter this weekend?
Cable: He is.
Q: Your thoughts on playing the Chargers at their place?
Cable: I’m excited. We’re all excited. It is what it is. It’s Oakland and San Diego. We’re playing in the division. You have a chance to win another division game against a very good team, a hot team right now, but we’re excited about this challenge.
Q: How does the injury to Gates affect what they like to do on offense?
Cable: You know, when he was playing so well early in the year, it’s pretty easy to see. A lot of things were going through him and to him, and all it’s done is really make Phillip kind of spread the ball around a little more.
Q: Are they tougher to defend because Rivers has been forced to spread it around so much because of injuries?
Cable: Yeah, I don’t know if they’re tougher to defend. I mean, I think Antonio is such a quality, quality player. He’s proven he can take over games, he’s tough to matchup in the red zone, tough on third down, and so even though you know there’s probably a good chance he’s probably gonna’ get it, you still have to defend him.
Q: Will Huff have the matchup with Gates?
Cable: : It could be Huff or Branch, either one, yeah. It could be Mike Mitchell as well.
Q: Who is the nickel if Chris Johnson can’t play?
Cable: You know, we’ll have to decide that here in the next few days.
Q:How has Walter McFadden bounced back this week after the rough game against Miami?
Cable: Very good today. Very good. You know, he’s hungry to get going again, and that’s really, as I’ve said, we just really need to get back to being who we are.
Q: Some of the players have admitted that they came out flat — no intensity — against the Dolphins. Does that concern you?
Cable: Sure it does. I think that when you’re playing for something, the excitement of what you’re playing for, I think handles that. We started off the game in fine fashion, but I really felt like from the third series on we weren’t getting much done. We kind of traded with them a little bit, but that’s not good enough when you have a chance to take over a game and we didn’t. We got taken over.
Q: Have you addressed the team about that?
Cable: Absolutely.
Q: Chargers have great numbers in November and December — Besides talent, why?
Cable:: I really think it’s, you know, you’ve got a veteran team that really has been there and done it. I think they understand what it takes and how you have to be down the stretch, you know a coaching staff who’s been there and done it. So I think the combination of the two, a very mature team that knows how to handle themselves.
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December 1st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
GG Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Cable is gone because Al did everything in his power to give him all he wanted.
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GG, I’d expect it from some people here but not you. I’m surprised. There’s no way you believe that. I know you’re too smart.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Al Davis dropped a bundle on QB & WR in recent drafts, and we need to address them again this year?
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LOL. Tell me about it.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:30 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:09 pm
But the health issue is 100% on him. Can’t blame anyone else.
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Uh, nice try there, slick. But you actually can blame someone else if their exaggerating the severity of his injuries just as an excuse to play someone else.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Well, that’s not going to happen because he (Gradkowski) is garbage and he cannot stay healthy.
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I doubt he’s even injured that badly. I think the Raiders are playing up his injury to get Campbell in there permanently, because that gives Campbell at least a snowball’s chance of proving Al’s nutty Plunkett prediction right.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Cable’s sorry a–. Al isn’t going to fire himself.
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I didn’t ask if Al was going to fire himself. I asked who it falls back on. RaiderRockStar and Hot Shot were insisting that it all falls back on Cable. When an owner says he’s heavily involved, shouldn’t he get some of the blame too?
December 1st, 2010 at 4:40 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Right, we’ve all been witness to Grad’s greatness. 0 wins for the season.
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Well, he’s on the Raiders. You have to take account for that, too. He’s still better than Campbell.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Zach Miller practiced limited, Bruce Gradkowski did not, Richard Seymour practiced limited, Asomugha, Branch and Chris Johnson did not practice.
Q: Which of those are most likely to play?
Cable: I would say Branch and then Asomugha, both of those guys.
So Seymours not playing?
December 1st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
KiffinRaider in here talking to himself.
Barney Rubble mumbling incoherently to himself.
What a waste of time.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Local media’s all butt hurt bcuz Cable never told them Grads would start and big outlets like ESPN got the scoop first
December 1st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I had to read it 3 times to make sure I wasn’t reading it wrong
December 1st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Genius.
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Q: Who is the nickel if Chris Johnson can’t play?
Cable: You know, we’ll have to decide that here in the next few days.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
God I hope we beat the Chargers
December 1st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
This is just puerile garbage. No wonder the media get treated like excrement. They bring it upon themselves and they deserve it.
December 1st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
This is what the Raiders need this week:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Pregame-speech-left-Vernon-Davis-in-tears-before?urn=nfl-290832
I want to see Heyward-Bey give an impassioned speech and break down and cry before the game.
Raiders 42, Chargers 35
December 1st, 2010 at 4:59 pm
It would be nice to beat the dischargers … but how we gonna stop Rivers? … If we try blitzing him too much he will kill us with big plays … Front 4 has to get a big push or we’re probably meat
December 1st, 2010 at 5:02 pm
If these obvious mistakes can pass editorial screening, then why should we have any confidence that Cable’s answers were properly transcribed? This is not funny at all. This is 8-year-old school yard crap.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Unfortunately, I agree with Kelly in regard to Rivers … He deserves MVP this year … He has carried that team all season … Wish we could find a QB half as good
December 1st, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Spartacus chill … Read Cable’s answers: Blah Blah Blah … he says nothing … you know those are real
December 1st, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Campbell has every reason to have a chip on his shoulder this Sunday and finally play with some fire, the guy has talent, let’s see it on display
December 1st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
I wish Al Davis had a blog, or a twitter account.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
qbs with talent aren’t given away by their former teams .. i believe rivers, brady and peyton are on the same teams they started with
December 1st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Inonewordraider, Campbell is going to shock the world this week. He will be AFC player of the week. You can quote me on that.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The Raiders’ season looked like it was over after narrowly escaping a loss to the Rams in week 2. But a big victory against the Chargers gave the Raiders some momentum, and they went into the bye week at .500.
Another win against the Chargers could do the same thing, and help the Raiders save their season. They have a few more winnable games coming up. If they can get back on track this weekend, it’ll be big for them.
Hopefully they can put the last couple weeks behind them, rally behind Jason Campbell, and come out of San Diego with their confidence and intensity restored.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:10 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Local media’s all butt hurt bcuz Cable never told them Grads would start and big outlets like ESPN got the scoop first
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Too bad the Raiders don’t get a trophy for that. No, turns out you have to focus on winning football games to get one of those. Maybe some day the Raiders will get back to concentrating on that again. I’m not holding my breath, not with the current management.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
I wish Al Davis had a blog, or a twitter account.
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He has a twitter account. He’s still typing his first update. It’ll be ready in a few weeks.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:19 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Inonewordraider, Campbell is going to shock the world this week. He will be AFC player of the week. You can quote me on that.
Hope you’re right. Although the losses hurt I got better at accepting them. It’s harder to lose when you have hope and Sunday would hurt the worst
December 1st, 2010 at 5:20 pm
[...] When asked which two players held out of practice were most likely to play this week, Tom Cable replied, “I would say (Tyvon) Branch and then Asomugha, both of those guys.” [...]
December 1st, 2010 at 5:20 pm
schilens has a jammed thumb will see a finger specialist this week and fears it may keep him out two weeks…
December 1st, 2010 at 5:21 pm
please not tyvon in coverage….,
December 1st, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Inonewordraider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:19 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Inonewordraider, Campbell is going to shock the world this week. He will be AFC player of the week. You can quote me on that.
Hope you’re right. Although the losses hurt I got better at accepting them. It’s harder to lose when you have hope and Sunday would hurt the worst
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That’s true. The Miami loss was a big let down. For a couple of weeks it was actually exciting. If they lose to the Chargers, I guess it will be back to normal and we can get excited about Cable’s firing and the draft.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Campbell doesn’t have to be player of the week to make me happy. If drops the statue routine and makes some plays I’d be stoked. Also next time he underthrows a perfectly timed and WIDE OPEN flea flicker I am going to hurl my whiskey and coke all over my 42″Plasma.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Hope that Walter McFadden kid has learned from his first NFL game and can step up. He looked a lot better in PS than Sunday. Man did they ABUSE that kid!
December 1st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I think cable will let grad start and throw left hand and say I just said he couldn’t throw with his right arm.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Cable brings his linguistic mastery to Sirius radio in 28 minutes…
December 1st, 2010 at 5:33 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:34 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Well, that’s not going to happen because he (Gradkowski) is garbage and he cannot stay healthy.
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I doubt he’s even injured that badly. I think the Raiders are playing up his injury to get Campbell in there permanently, because that gives Campbell at least a snowball’s chance of proving Al’s nutty Plunkett prediction right.
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Oh, great. Now that his confidence is suspect, he gets a chance when he shouldn’t have been taken out in the first place.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Barring a miracle, our season has come down to this game. Win and we are still more or less in the thick of things in the AFC West (which does not say a whole lot for the division, by the way). Lose and we are looking up at a mountain too big to climb. We must win this game. If we can run the table on the other teams in our division then we are in, but it starts this week. That’s three more games. Cable pulls that off and he saves his job, maybe. Everybody has to play. Nobody sits.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:38 pm
If the Raiders don’t sign a #3 QB, they must be lying about Grad’s injury.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Raiders just signed some scrub qb named Russell. Never heard of him…
December 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Cable’s sorry a–. Al isn’t going to fire himself.
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I didn’t ask if Al was going to fire himself. I asked who it falls back on. RaiderRockStar and Hot Shot were insisting that it all falls back on Cable. When an owner says he’s heavily involved, shouldn’t he get some of the blame too?
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From some of your previous post, it seems like you want to blame Al for everything. Al isn’t the coach on game day. The calls are the coaches responsibility. Sure, he can take some blame for the available players because he GM.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Raiders must defeat SD this week,
KC will avenge that embarrassing loss to Denver a few weeks ago.
KC is home.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Mr. W. McFadden’s preseason injury set him back half a season.
He will be a great cornerback in the NFL.
Raiders MUST make sure that when they go from predominately man coverage to Zone that everyone knows they are or are not, that is when we get burned the most.
Thats on Mr. McClain!
December 1st, 2010 at 5:50 pm
To quote the great Lawrence Taylor, “We got to play like a bunch of crazed dogs”… Love that quote. Seriously, we have to come out that way. All fired up. And quit worrying about penalties. Seems like we have a ton of penalties in the games we win and we look flat when we try to cut down on them. Rather them be aggressive and go for it.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:52 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
From some of your previous post, it seems like you want to blame Al for everything.
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By every measurable metric, from wins & losses, to pro-bowl players, to failing attendance, to a out-dated stadium, to franchise value, the Raiders are failing.
That’s absolutely Al Davis’ fault.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:54 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:40 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Right, we’ve all been witness to Grad’s greatness. 0 wins for the season.
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Well, he’s on the Raiders. You have to take account for that, too. He’s still better than Campbell.
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You like him better than JC. There isn’t a statistic that he is superior to JC in. JCs won more games too. Really, he is a fiery, spectacular loser.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:55 pm
How can a team playing meaningful football for the first time in 8 years, come out flat?
-ans: No faith in the project.
December 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
From some of your previous post, it seems like you want to blame Al for everything.
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Absolutely not. Just what he clearly says he’s involved. He said he’s heavily involved. And he said it just a few months ago. Yet you don’t think any of this falls back on him? You don’t believe in blaming someone in an NFL organization for poor results when they clearly state that they are heavily involved?
December 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:54 pm
You like him better than JC. There isn’t a statistic that he is superior to JC in. JCs won more games too. Really, he (Bruce) is a fiery, spectacular loser.
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The whole team is 5-6. I think they’re all losers. And speaking of losers, there’s only one person in this organization, involved in football operations, who’s lost for 8 years straight now. Hint: It’s not Bruce Gradkowski, or Tom Cable.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Get Real you’re blaming Mr. Shane Lechler for 8 losing seasons?
December 1st, 2010 at 6:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:52 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
From some of your previous post, it seems like you want to blame Al for everything.
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By every measurable metric, from wins & losses, to pro-bowl players, to failing attendance, to a out-dated stadium, to franchise value, the Raiders are failing.
That’s absolutely Al Davis’ fault.
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I can’t disagree with those statements. He shouldn’t have left for LA, he alienated a bunch of fans. And he has definitively picked the speed guy to early unlike this year.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:06 pm
hard to dispute the fact that Al is common denominator in all this. All otheres come and go. He’s been here all along.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Mike Martz for HC!!!
December 1st, 2010 at 6:13 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:59 pm
# LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:54 pm
You like him better than JC. There isn’t a statistic that he is superior to JC in. JCs won more games too. Really, he (Bruce) is a fiery, spectacular loser.
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The whole team is 5-6. I think they’re all losers. And speaking of losers, there’s only one person in this organization, involved in football operations, who’s lost for 8 years straight now. Hint: It’s not Bruce Gradkowski, or Tom Cable.
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Sure, but some players are trying to change things and have contributed to the days when they have won.
All of the players aren’t all losers. Jacoby is a winner for sure. Seymore, Namdi, McCain, and some other guys are winners.
Al is definitely in a long hibernation from winning but he has won before.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:18 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Sure, but some players are trying to change things and have contributed to the days when they have won.
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True. Like Bruce Gradkowski, Jacoby Ford…
December 1st, 2010 at 6:21 pm
I hope Herrera is cleaning the glass on the overhead projector!
December 1st, 2010 at 6:21 pm
45.Mistabrown Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Raccoon why do you call that moron “Ski”?
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Ask him.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:22 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:18 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Sure, but some players are trying to change things and have contributed to the days when they have won.
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True. Like Bruce Gradkowski, Jacoby Ford…
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The fact is, Bruce try as he may, hasn’t won a game that he started this year. Some people want to say that he gives us the best chance to win but he only won in relief. Logic dictates that he gives us the best chance to lose if he hasn’t won. If he was winning, great, glad to have him out there but that’s not happening.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:25 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Mike Martz for HC!!!
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This is absolutly worth a sniff, and then some.
You nailed it, he is the makes perfect sense for Big Al.
With out a doubt he needs a look.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Grad became a distraction when he won two games last year. Cable can’t help himself.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:25 pm
MR, AKA K-Still
Repeat after me ” It is GREAT to be a RAIDER fan” and ” I love the RAIDERS”!!
You can cut and past MR, just let us hear you say it, CLEARLY!
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C’mon Skee, let me hear you say Ohh Ahh….
December 1st, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Ohh Ahh… Ohh Ahh… Ohh Ahh…
December 1st, 2010 at 6:34 pm
NMD,
Well done. Martz makes perfect sense.
Davis will continue to gey big strong fast guys. Martz will get the ball to big strong fast guys. Martz a veteran hc may have grown since his time with the lambs. The word is they folded, in a clash of ego. Davis is a legend, seen it all. He calls Martz kid, & promises to bring him speed and power. Marshall handles defense, martz HC & play caller!
Stop playin’
December 1st, 2010 at 6:36 pm
3rd degree separation of the shoulder. Do you know what that means? Has anyone had a separated shoulder? Gradkowski was not ready to go. Jason should have started against Miami or at least come in in relief when Gradkowski was obviously having a bad day. Ford was the reason for the 51 yard completion, not Grad’s throw. It should have been his 3rd pick.
Jason is inaccurate and Grad is walking wounded and the Raiders still insist on throwing it deep. The play calling is bad. You have Reese and McFadden in the backfield who are great in space, and Ford who is the fastest guy on the field. Dump the ball off to McFadden and Reese on the other side of the line of scrimmage NOT BEHIND IT! McFadden makes guys look silly in the open field. Ford can run away from them if you give him a crease. Slants to for, out and ins, 5 yards at a time. That’s all you need. 5 yards. I’ll say it again. 5 yards.
Make the throws easy for Jason and Grad. Make the blocking easier for the O-line. Jason has to use his feet more, a lot more. Throw to the tight end right down the middle. 5 yards.
The play calling is awful.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:36 pm
# Drexl Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Grad became a distraction when he won two games last year. Cable can’t help himself.
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Exactly. He won in Pitt when they were is the mist of losing 5 in a row. It wasn’t like they were hot or anything plus that was last year. What has he done for us lately?
December 1st, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Haven’t done the homework but seems like our O line isn’t getting 2nd level at ALL anymore.
Not since Satele had his knee dinged.
Pretty f’in sick of Oakland making sh*t teams look good.
Play your azzes off! Its like these guys think they’re going to play forever.
FACT you only get so many snaps and every one could be your last.
I know Dieon the Peion tells everyone to save themselves but honestly for what?
Play ever single play as hard as you f’ing can.
You get 53 guys doing that and Championships are won.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:50 pm
65. Naw, the play calling isn’t it. Against Pitt it was. Not so against Miami.
The problem there was execution and that comes down to one guy slacking on a play. A diff guy on another and no one chewing their azz for it.
Play calling was fine. The amount of plays, field position, time on the clock and wether or not your behind dictates play selection too.
Check the T.O.P.
The Raiders offense was barely on the field.
December 1st, 2010 at 6:51 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:22 pm
The fact is, Bruce try as he may, hasn’t won a game that he started this year.
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Nice spin. He beat the Rams. He beat Arizona, too. Al’s kicker blew it.
Everyone, notice how LB keeps saying “hasn’t won a game that he’s started”. A lot of words to make one point, isn’t it? He’s covering. He can’t just say that Bruce hasn’t won, because everyone knows that for all intents and purposes, he has. Against St. Louis and Arizona. It’s called spin.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Short passes and decent yardage runs with bomb pass sprinkled in is the key for the raiders to be a successful offense. Fast WR’s and fast RB’s, why don’t they try running the west coast offense? Give the guys a chance to get those YAC’s.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
I love Chucky, but Chucky is overrated. Chucky was better with Davis. Gruden has hovered around average during his time in Raider land, but did show the ability to get the most out of the players, & make a run. He is an offensive guru, & awesome motivator. He is a train wreck with personel.
Chucky & Davis created a buzz with the confrence run, the iron was hot the rest is history.
I doubt gruden coaches the raiders again, time to put those notions to bed. Unless gruden has seen the light. After his trophy, that Dungy gave him, he ran Tampa into the ground.
Davis is gasoline Gruden is a match, it was fun while it lasted.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:06 pm
MaddenRaider?
Are you retarded?
lonely?
doesn’t matter when I stop by, you are here.
And you post 6 messages in row, all to different people, to start the thread?
are you really that lonely in real life?
really?
December 1st, 2010 at 7:19 pm
The Raiders Offense has dropped to #30 in 3rd down conversions.
That’s their problem pure & simple. Look at that stat, and look at winners.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=ALL&tabSeq=2&role=TM&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DOWN_3RD_PERCENTAGE&d-447263-n=1
December 1st, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Some people are so funny.
First you are all over jc you say” he checks down too much”. Now you complain because of the deep passing?!?!? OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!!!!
That has been the offense from the out set. Don’t act surprised. Your boy grads doesn’t have the goods, let it go.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:27 pm
jcampbell misses deep, intermediate, short and snaps….
December 1st, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Duke and Sparty at Cameron Indoor tonight.
Two well-coached teams; a nice change of pace.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
46.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
From some of your previous post, it seems like you want to blame Al for everything.
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Absolutely not. Just what he clearly says he’s involved. He said he’s heavily involved. And he said it just a few months ago. Yet you don’t think any of this falls back on him? You don’t believe in blaming someone in an NFL organization for poor results when they clearly state that they are heavily involved?
Al is the GM. How can he not be involved? He can do whatever he wants. Why, because he is the owner too.
December 1st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:51 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 6:22 pm
The fact is, Bruce try as he may, hasn’t won a game that he started this year.
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Nice spin. He beat the Rams. He beat Arizona, too. Al’s kicker blew it.
Everyone, notice how LB keeps saying “hasn’t won a game that he’s started”. A lot of words to make one point, isn’t it? He’s covering. He can’t just say that Bruce hasn’t won, because everyone knows that for all intents and purposes, he has. Against St. Louis and Arizona. It’s called spin.
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All intensive purposes, now that is spin if I ever heard it. He came in as relief in the St. Louis game, that wasn’t a start. The Raiders lost against Arizona. You want to blame that on Jano. Maybe, if he would have called timeout at the one, we might have won. Call it spin if you like, you just don’t like when the facts don’t fit your perception.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:02 pm
# Raiders for life Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
46.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
From some of your previous post, it seems like you want to blame Al for everything.
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Absolutely not. Just what he clearly says he’s involved. He said he’s heavily involved. And he said it just a few months ago. Yet you don’t think any of this falls back on him? You don’t believe in blaming someone in an NFL organization for poor results when they clearly state that they are heavily involved?
Al is the GM. How can he not be involved? He can do whatever he wants. Why, because he is the owner too.
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I didn’t say that nothing falls on him. Read post #49. I’m saying that the play calling, throwing the ball, catching, etc. isn’t directly his fault other than he picked them but he didn’t make bad throws or drop a pass.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:15 pm
From being at the game an mind you I have been a BIG supporter of grads
but he just want able to make the deep throws that JC maybe could have connected
MAYBE
December 1st, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Grads missed alot of open deep recievers
December 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
true both have underthrown our fast recievers….
December 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
So instead of the pointless Juice Campkowski vs. Brason Grampbell debate, let’s try another debate:
Christian Ponder (Florida State)
Ryan Mallett (Arkansas)
Nathan Enderle (Idaho)
Pat Devlin (Delaware)
Colin Kaepernick (Nevada)
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Who do you prefer and why?
For the sake of argument, let’s say that the offensive line and wide receiving corps are both upgraded as well.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:25 pm
With all of the switching it is hard for the QBs to get their timing down. Ford is one of the fastest receivers to ever play the game. He speed is blazing even in the 100 yard dash.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:36 pm
colin k. knows how to win…he gets better every time ive seen him play…and he can run…fast.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Sup Nation?
December 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Sorry Young, I haven’t watched a lot of college this year. I thought that everyone was saying that Luck was the most pro ready or are these the guys that might make it to the second round?
December 1st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
I doubt we will get a QB in the draft.. I’d be happy with a center RG or RT..
December 1st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
YA-you should add Koles from Arizona to that list.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
[...] When asked which two players held out of practice were most likely to play this week, Tom Cable replied, “I would say (Tyvon) Branch and then Asomugha, both of those guys.” [...]
December 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Haven’t seen much on Koles, what’s the word on him?
And yeah, LB, these are guys that would make it to the second round. Otherwise I would have put Luck and Locker on the list.
I’d love to see Luck in Silver and Black, but it’s just not going to happen unfortunately. He’s definitely the most pro-ready, though.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm
i want them to use all their picks on oline…get rid of these bums.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Personally, I like Enderle. He’s from a pro-style system, has a big enough arm for Al’s offense and his footwork is decent too. The Raiders can probably draft him in the third or fourth round, which will allow their second round pick to be C, OT, or WR.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Yeah, I would rather fix the line too. It probably wouldn’t be a good idea to send a rookie in with a so-so line.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I want them to go after linemen in free agency. RG Harvey Dahl in particular should be a target. Cable worked with him in Atlanta in ‘06, so should Cable keep his job Dahl would be a great fit and a logical target.
Jared Gaither should also be signed to a one-year “prove it” contract. He’s been injured, but when he’s healthy he’s a franchise-caliber tackle. He can also play both tackle positions. At worst, he’s better than Henderson or Walker.
A possible OT pick in the second round would be Darrius Morris from Temple. He can play tackle or guard, so his versatility would help a Raider offensive line in serious need of depth.
C Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State) and C Kris O’Dowd (USC) are also options in the second or third round. The only downside to O’Dowd is his injury history. Linnenkohl might take slightly longer to develop, but has a lot of upside and might be an instant upgrade over Satele at the very least.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Young, how is Enderle’s accuracy? He stats show a lot of INTs.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
We need to draft o line, and we need a new owner.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:54 pm
what newspapers not telling the whole story? You dont say?
December 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Lot of INTs for Enderle, yeah. Most of those come from one game against a pretty tough Nebraska defense.
Personally, I’m not too worried about the statistics, especially coming from an Idaho team that isn’t exactly stellar. But that’s just me.
Rumor has it the kid got a 40 on the Wonderlic. I think it would be a welcome change to have a QB who makes smart decisions.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm
YA-thats Foles,sorry.I like either Devlin or Foles.Both are big guys with strong arms that play in pro style Offenses.The only thing is Foles is only a junior and may not declare.
December 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm
http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/y/nfl-draft/prospects/index.php?id=548
I was trying to look at some JR scouting reports from old, I just want to know what happened to this guy. Some scouts spoke so highly of him, “The body of Daunte Culpepper, the arm strength of John Elway and the precision of Peyton Manning”. I was thinking about what Priest was talking about bringing him in for a minimum salary and on a very short leash and thought I’d see. Thoughts?
I’m not really expecting him to come back and wouldn’t really be disappointed if he didn’t.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:00 pm
I’ll look into Foles.
I like Devlin, too. Word is he’s a really tough kid with a strong, accurate arm and good mobility. Wouldn’t mind bringing him in at all, especially given Hue’s history coaching up Delaware QBs.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
I forgot if I mentioned him, but what do you guys think of Terrance Tolliver from LSU? He is 6-5 I think and a mid round prospect right now according to Walterfootball
December 1st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Plus,his coach is becoming known as somewhat of a QB mentor.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:05 pm
I like Terrence Tolliver a lot, but unfortunately he doesn’t have “Raider speed” so I’m inclined to think Al won’t give him a second look.
But for a mid/late-round WR prospect, I like Chris Owusu from Stanford. 4.4 40 (which should appease Big Al), comes from a pro-style offense, and he’s likely to declare early if Andrew Luck enters the draft.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Guy-I may be in the minority,but I don’t want a QB from an SEC big program school.They have too many ’stars’ around them so it is easy for them to look good.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Lefty, I agree. I like the small(er)-school prospects who manage to look good even with a sub-par supporting cast. Especially when they come from a pro-style offense.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Toliver is a WR Lefty unless you were talking about JR. Young American, I’ll see what I can find about Owusu. Any other receivers that may be on Al’s radar?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
I think if Michael Floyd falls deep into the second round (which I believe he will unless he has an eye-popping combine/pro-day), it’ll be hard for Al to resist taking him. Great combination of size and speed. Might be Tim Brown 2.0.
Other than that, if we’re talking about late-round prospects just look at the guys with the fastest 40 yard dash times. Al loves taking flier picks on late-round speed demons.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm
The site that Guy put up has Enderle maybe going in the first round.
And this site is saying that off tackles aren’ that good this year. Bummer.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/11/30/1846158/2011-nfl-draft-prevew-derek-sherrod-tyron-smith
December 1st, 2010 at 9:14 pm
YA-that is exactly what I’m looking for also,or guys from bigger conferences but not the big name programs.Guys that take the usual middle of the road or lower schools and takes them to the next level,ala Cutler at Vandy.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Hmmm, I haven’t seen a mock that has Enderle going any higher than the third round, but anything can happen between now and the draft so it’s not out of the question.
I have a hard time believing he’ll go higher than Locker, Ponder, and Mallett though.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Guy-I know,sorry.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Yeah it’s not a really deep draft class at OT.
Darrius Morris from Temple will probably be an RT/OG at the next level. I think he would be the best fit for the Raiders offense of the guys I’ve seen. All of the other top tackle prospects I’ve read up on are either not pro-ready, or are more suited to a power-blocking system where they don’t have to block in space.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:17 pm
This guy looks good on paper.
John Moffitt, OG, Wisconsin
I believe that Wisc is known for the off linemen, right?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm
I like the Wisconsin offensive linemen. Just look at the rushing numbers that team puts up.
Not sure how they fit into the ZBS, but if Cable isn’t around there might not be a ZBS next year so who knows. Definitely worth keeping an eye on.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
I thought Floyd was going to be a top 20 pick?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Maybe he will be. Notre Dame players have a tendency of falling in the draft, though. And AJ Green, Julio Jones, Jonathan Baldwin and Blackburn from Oklahoma State are all above him on most draft big boards by the “experts”, so who knows.
It’s a possibility, anyway. I’m not exactly counting on it though.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Some possibilities:
2nd round – WR Michael Floyd (Notre Dame), OT Darius Morris (Temple), or C Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)
3rd round – QB Nathan Enderle (Idaho) or QB Pat Devlin (Delaware)
4th round – RB Derrick Locke (Kentucky)
5th round – WR Chris Owusu (Stanford) or G Clint Boling (Georgia)
6th round – NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
7th round – OLB Jonas Mouton (Michigan)
Sign FA CB Jonathan Joseph, G Harvey Dahl, RT Jared Gaither
Re-sign Seymour, Miller, and either Gallery or Huff.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm
I wouldn’t mind Baldwin either. I always see Green as a top 10 pick and read that Julio Jones was very inconsistent.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
I might have been wrong on Enderle going high.
“he must become much more consistent in his fundamentals, accuracy and decision-making to have a long-term NFL career.”
Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-10/draft-dish/story/draft-top-40-ponder-dominates-but-locker-enderle-disappoint#subnav#ixzz16vgR1FgM
I would have to see this guy. It should like it is correctable but the Raiders aren’t know for grooming QBs.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm
I really do think the Raiders need to go after a RB in the draft. I think Michael Bush is going to be very difficult to re-sign.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
I’m glad to hear that Cable and the guys are excited to play SD.
I’d like to read what he’ll have to say after SD lays out another whopping on this team.
There is no way this Raider team can even come close to SD, this is definitely not the same situation as in October. At least we got the satisfaction of having the losing streak over, but this time there will be different teams on the field.
SD is playing much better than Pittsburgh and is miles ahead of Miami, both teams scored 30+ on the Raiders. Even with the Raiders at full strength they wouldn’t beat SD, much less with half a team. I see SD scoring at least 45 points and the Raiders lucky enough for a couple of field goals.
Then, what happens? More Cable excuses and spins, and let’s get excited about playing Jax.
However, I’d still like to see Seymour show what he’s really made of, because ever since Big Ben told the world Big Rich was the defensive MVP of the league, he seems to have dropped his silver slipper, and I doubt very much we’ll see anything at all, what a choker.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm
I’m worried that if the Raiders DO go after a WR in the second round, it’ll be Jones no matter who else is available. The inconsistent hands and crazy speed have Al Davis written all over them.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Yeah LB, I’m just hoping that between Hue, Tollner and Hackett they’ll be able to work with a QB who already has the smarts and the background that allow a kid to be successful in the league. That’s why I like Devlin and Enderle as mid-round selections.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I like Bush. They can’t seem to use him enough. I wish that they would play him more in the first half to wear down the D more.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Thats funny, I bet we would have loved to have Julio Jones last year when he was tearing it up. If we do pick him, I won’t be as mad as I was when DHB was the 1st rounder. He had success in college and I think he was a better prospect than DHB was.
I’d much rather have Floyd, Baldwin, or Pouncey though (if any are available)
December 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Pouncey would indeed be a good pick.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Jones wouldn’t be the worst pick in the world, but if he’s the highest-rated WR on the board I’d rather the Raiders go offensive line.
If Baldwin or Floyd drop? WR should definitely be the pick.
If Wisniewski or Pouncey drop? Then the Raiders have a good problem on their hands.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Young, who do you think the Raiders could use as trade bait right now to either move up in the 2nd or into the 1st round?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Is that Steve’s son? Wisniewsk
December 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Nope, I see that Steve is his uncle. That would be cool.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Hard to say. Future picks would probably be the best bet. Wouldn’t mind if Al traded the 2012 1st and 3rd round picks to secure a 1st round spot around #20 and get Wisniewski, Pouncey, or Floyd.
Nnamdi is really the only Raider good enough to use as trade bait who isn’t going to be a free agent anyway at the season’s end. And I don’t see Al letting him go.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
The Wiz’s nephew would be a perfect fit for the Raiders, and he’s the one player I could see Al Davis wanting enough to trade into the first round for.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm
If Al were to trade Nnamdi for a first and maybe something else, do you think he’d pick another corner with the 1st? If he did, itd probably be Patrick Peterson or Prince Akumura (SP). What do you think of those players?
December 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
I’ve heard bad things about Peterson’s focus, but he definitely has the talent. LOVE what I see from Akumura.
If not those guys, Davon House from New Mexico State is apparently a very solid man-coverage guy with a lot of speed. He could go anywhere from the second round to the fourth or fifth, depending on his combine/pro day.
December 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Which of the two top rounds guys are better man and press corners? Nnamdi’s ability to jam receivers is what seperates him and Revis from other corners. Also wondering if House can press well.
If we lose to SD, I’ll take a 7-9/8-8 season and hope for a good draft, then we’ll talk playoffs
December 1st, 2010 at 9:59 pm
House has size, which definitely helps. A corner with a big reach has a better chance of standing up against WRs like Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, etc..
Honestly, I’m not sure about Akumura v.s. Peterson. I’m always wary of drafting DBs that high, though. From what I’ve seen (and of course I’m no pro scout or anything) it’s just as risky as drafting a QB in the top ten.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
12.inonewordraider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
God I hope we beat the Chargers
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God is the only one who could make that happen and He’s got enuff problems to deal with.
There is no way in he** the Raiders will beat the Chargers this weekend.
We’re 5-7. Best to just accept it and figure how we’ll get to 7-9.
I wish it weren’t this way, but there is just NO WAY Raiders win this game. In fact, I think Raiders will get humiliated by at least 3 TD’s. There is just NO WAY.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
There’s a way, but it’s going to be much harder than last time, that’s for sure. They have to come out and play inspired football. If they do that, anything can happen. But at this point SD is on a roll, and they’re simply a more complete team than the Raiders.
The offense just needs to figure out how to not go three-and-out every single time. It kills the defense.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
103.lefty12 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Guy-I may be in the minority,but I don’t want a QB from an SEC big program school.They have too many ’stars’ around them so it is easy for them to look good.
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Kind of like JC had aorund him when he played at Auburn on an undefeated team.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
They definitely need to play inspired. When they are focused they can win but this game is stacked against them but that’s why the play the game.
Peace out!
December 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# mistic1 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
I love Chucky, but Chucky is overrated. Chucky was better with Davis. Gruden has hovered around average during his time in Raider land, but did show the ability to get the most out of the players, & make a run. He is an offensive guru, & awesome motivator. He is a train wreck with personel.
Chucky & Davis created a buzz with the confrence run, the iron was hot the rest is history.
I doubt gruden coaches the raiders again, time to put those notions to bed. Unless gruden has seen the light. After his trophy, that Dungy gave him, he ran Tampa into the ground.
Davis is gasoline Gruden is a match, it was fun while it lasted.
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More nonsense from the Raiders’ official supervisor of overhead projector procurement.
Jon Gruden won his division in 2007, 6 years after Dungy had left. Al Davis…after enjoying a Lamar Hunt Trophy that Gruden gave him, is yet, yet, mind you, to put together a season with more than 5 wins.
Jon Gruden has done far more with Tampa, post Dungy, than Al Davis has with the Raiders…post Gruden.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:33 pm
MR, AKA K-Still
Repeat after me ” It is GREAT to be a RAIDER fan” and ” I love the RAIDERS”!!!
You can cut and past MR, just let us hear you say it, CLEARLY!
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C’mon Skee, let me hear you say Ohh Ahh….
December 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
# Raiders for life Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Al is the GM. How can he not be involved? He can do whatever he wants. Why, because he is the owner too.
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Exactly. Thank you. Which his why he deserves as much blame for this as Cable. Mistic seems to think Al Davis has nothing to do with this mess. I’ve been trying to convince him all day that Al does. Thanks for the help.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Q: After this 49-6 loss at SanDiego, what will be the teams approach as this season winds down?
TC: Well it’s still early. Definitely yes, we have to start playing better, but do I think the season is over? Absoutely not. We fix a deal here, fix a deal there, and we’re right back in this thing.
Q:The team was playing so well and then the bye week, and now a 3 game losing streak. What went wrong?
TC: Well as I said after the Miami game, we kind of got into a little bit of a lull with it and now this lull has us in a deal here where, you know, we have to start thinking about winning some football games or were gonna get to a point where, you know, were in a tough postion to make the playoffs. We’re a good football team. We know we’re better than 5-7. I thought we played a good game overall out there, just came up a little short.
Q: A little short? You lost 49-6.
TC: Well, we started out well getting that first down there after Rivers marched down the field for that first TD, then the JC pick 6 and the fumble there from Higgins and we’re down 21-0 in the first 4 minutes of the game. I thought Jason did well getting us that first down there, and I thought we struggled a bit, but I’m not sure. I’ll have to see the film, but overall we played a good ball game today.
Hey we’re still 3-1 in the division. We’re geting close. Real close.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
LB Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 7:55 pm
The Raiders lost against Arizona.
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Thanks to Jano. If not for Jano’s missed kick, we win. Grads came in against St. Louis and did what Campbell was incapable of doing, moving the chains. I don’t care who started. It was Campbell’s win. So he beats Arizona if not for Jano’s missed kick. Not spin. FACT. He then comes relieves a failing Jason Campbell vs. STL, and the team wins. FACT. Not spin. I don’t care if he hasn’t won a game that he’s started, officially. Those are two games where he cleaned up someone else’s mess and won, and did enough to win yet had it ruined by a kicker.
December 1st, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Replace Campbell with Gradkowski in the 5th sentence of my previous comment, btw. Funny how in order to make things better, you just have to replace Campbell with Gradkowski, football or otherwise. LOL.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:06 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever been more sure of what the result of a football game would be than I am about what will happen Sunday.
This is a demoralized and defeated Raider team. It’s really sad actually. Three weeks ago even Warren Sapp said the Raiders were “for real”. “Raider Resurgence” we heard.
Now, 5-7 and looking at the realistic probability of double digit losses AGAIN. It’s really freaking sad. My Raider buzz left after Pittsburgh. The “Raider Resurgence” died at Heinz Field too.
We’ve all seen this movie way too many times.
I’d say there is more chance that George Blanda rises from the dead to kick a farewel field goal than it is for the Raiders to win this Sunday. It ain’t gonna happen so now what? Sick of the spin sick of the losing, sick of the false hope. Give me 7-9 and it’s a major win in my book.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:06 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# mistic1 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 7:03 pm
I love Chucky, but Chucky is overrated. Chucky was better with Davis. Gruden has hovered around average during his time in Raider land, but did show the ability to get the most out of the players, & make a run. He is an offensive guru, & awesome motivator. He is a train wreck with personel.
Chucky & Davis created a buzz with the confrence run, the iron was hot the rest is history.
I doubt gruden coaches the raiders again, time to put those notions to bed. Unless gruden has seen the light. After his trophy, that Dungy gave him, he ran Tampa into the ground.
Davis is gasoline Gruden is a match, it was fun while it lasted.
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More nonsense from the Raiders’ official supervisor of overhead projector procurement.
Jon Gruden won his division in 2007, 6 years after Dungy had left. Al Davis…after enjoying a Lamar Hunt Trophy that Gruden gave him, is yet, yet, mind you, to put together a season with more than 5 wins.
Jon Gruden has done far more with Tampa, post Dungy, than Al Davis has with the Raiders…post Gruden.
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RMR,
The point is, They were great together, it was fun, it’s over
December 1st, 2010 at 11:08 pm
7-9 would be a major win in my book too. It all comes down to how well our Dline pressure Rivers on Sunday. We get a good chance though imo this sunday. Our Dline has been matching up well with them in the past 3 games.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:14 pm
8-8 is still possible if the Raiders can take advantage of a poor Jacksonville offensive line, a stumbling Broncos team, and a KC team that isn’t quite as good as they look at times.
7-9 is more likely, but all hope is not lost. Still, they’d be in a much better situation if they had put up a fight against a very beatable Miami team.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:17 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Genius.
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Q: Who is the nickel if Chris Johnson can’t play?
Cable: You know, we’ll have to decide that here in the next few days.
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If there is anyone on earth who should not remark on anyone else’s intelligence it’s this imbecile.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Jon Gruden won his division in 2007,
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No other team in that division had a winning record that year and Tampon Bay got rolled at home in their lst playoff game beginning the call for Gruden’s head. I could have won that division with the De La Salle High School team that year. Not quite a glowing endorsement. But nice try.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:29 pm
# mistic1 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 11:06 pm
RMR,
The point is, They were great together, it was fun, it’s over
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No, your point was, that Gruden was overrated, and only won a Super Bowl because of Dungy. Both true, btw. I decided to tack on to that point by reminding you, just in case you forgot, that Gruden understands today’s NFL far more than Al Davis does, and gave some pretty clear examples as to why.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Seymour, we’re going to play this game? Many could argue that the AFC was soft in 2002. Neither the ‘02 Jets or Titans were even close, even remotely close, to what the ‘00 Ravens were. If you’re going to downplay Gruden’s accomplishments in Tampa by dissecting the strength of his opponents, remember that you’re throwing stones from a glass house.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:20 am
[...] see about that,” Cable said, per the Oakland Tribune. “He is sore, no worse for wear in terms of the damage from before. But if he took another [...]
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 am
Uh oh…things are getting interesting. Grads aint going nowhere. He may even come in to clean out Campbell’s mess this Sunday. I hope so.
December 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 am
[...] see about that,” Cable said, per the Oakland Tribune. “He is sore, no worse for wear in terms of the damage from before. But if he took another [...]
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:47 am
Draft talk is catnip for me.
Pouncey would be a great choice to replace Carlisle. Not brilliant, but 100 percent solid and a Day 1 starter. Then we can try and get Bruce Campbell on the field at right tackle.
Wisniewski would be a hell of a line general at center. Smart, tough kid. Needs to add some mass and strength to his lower body, according to what I read…obviously just watching him play doesn’t let me judge that.
I was talking up Darius Morris the other day. He’d be a great right tackle. He’s got the size and experience at the position.
If Floyd is there in the 2nd, Al needs to jump all over him. Big guy, great hands, good route runner from a pro style offense and can make some circus catches. He is a little injury prone, but I wouldn’t worry about him turning into Schilens 2.0….it’s not that bad.
When Julio Jones is “on”, he’s as good as they come. Can get great separation and has breakway speed when the ball hits him in stride. Great runner in the open field. When he wants to, he can catch anything. The problem is he has concentration lapses and can disappear for stretches. Still worth a second round pick, though. He’s not like DHB in that he’s a natural receiver. Refine the kid’s focus and route-running and you’ll see a bigtime WR emerge.
As for the corner talk, while both Peterson and Amukamara will be long gone before the Raiders pick, I figure I’ll throw my two cents in here.. I like both of them, obviously. I like Amukamara because he’s a prototypical man-press corner and I’ve been conditioned by Al to like that.
Not saying he’ll be as great, but Amukamara reminds me of Nnamdi a lot. Big and rangy, has a ridiculously good jam at the line, the speed to keep up with anyone and is fantastic in run support. He’s good enough to play zone, but I think the guy can develop into a true shutdown corner if he goes to a man-to-man system.
Peterson is crazy talented too and is probably the better overall corner. He can play either zone or man effectively. I’ve read a scouting report that says he’s a better man corner, but I’m not sure I agree. He has that Asante Samuel type gambler’s instinct that makes him a perfect zone corner, but can cause him to get beat man-to-man on occasion. Peterson is also a crazy good return man, so he’ll probably go before Amukamra because his skill set is more wide-ranging and well-rounded.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.SnBPA.THE RAIDERS CAN NOT FALL BEHIND BIG,EARLY AGAINST S.D.IF THE CHARGERS JUMP OUT 14-17 PTS.IN THE 1ST OTR,THE RAIDERS WILL NOT WIN.NO TURN-OVERS OR DUMB PENALTY’S,THEY GOT A SHOT.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
Kelly got a chuckle out of a question referring to how the Raiders “had pretty good success’’ against Rivers the first time this season.
“He threw for 400!,’’ Kelly said. “I mean, you gotta pressure Phil, me and Big Rich and Big John, we gotta push up in his face. “Phil likes to step up in the pocket and and get them intermediate routes to (Antonio) Gates, dump it to (Darren) Sproles out of the backfield. We’ve just got to make his day very uncomfortable.’’
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Lets hope Tommy Kelly & crew keep the pressure on Rivers and still shut down the run game!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 am
Oakland can choose to either mix things up and be more daring with the pass, or just run that much harder.
Left guard Robert Gallery is in favor of the latter approach.
“Execution,’’ was Gallery’s answer when asked about the issues with the running game. “I think we’ve only run it 22 times (on called running plays) the last two games and that’s not who we are. We’ve got to get back to running the football and executing when we’re doing it.’’
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Bob Gallery is also keepin’ it real.
RUN THE BALL & STOP THE RUN!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 am
Orton: 3370 yards, 20 TD’s, 6 INT’s, sacked 29 times, QB Rating = 96
Rivers: 3362 yards, 23 TD’s, 9 INT’s, sacked 25 times, QB Rating = 104
Cassel: 2307 yards, 22 TD’s, 4 INT’s, sacked 15 times, QB Rating = 99
Camp/Grads: 2381 yards, 12 TD’s, 13 INT’s, sacked 33 times, QB Rating = 71
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thoughts ???
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 am
There’s two San Diego games the Raiders defense should be watching film of this week.
In their Week 6 loss at St. Louis, the Chargers allowed Rivers to get sacked seven times in the game. Whatever it was the Rams did, the Raiders need to do that too.
Last week the Colts held Rivers to just 185 yards passing and no TDs. If not for Manning having one of his worst games in years, the Colts probably win that game.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 am
Amukamara and Asomugha? Its a match made in heaven, but it would be a nightmare for broadcasters all over America.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 am
I love some draft talk as well, although assessing O-line prospects is not really my game.
Not sold on Pouncey as a Center, at last in his first few years in the league. This has been his first season as C, and his first month was an unmitigated disaster. Probably be a G when he comes into the league initially and maybe permanately.
This will be a big year for 1st round pick WR’s. Last year there was only one WR taken in the first, I think as many as 5 can go this year. Julio Jones and AG Green might be top 15 picks. And maybe the best SEC WR, the Jeffries kid from South Carolina, won’t come out until next year.
I see a lot of people talking about the Boise kid Pettis, but you know Al is looking harder at the other kid, Titus Young, because he is much faster. Floyd for Notre Dame is very solid pass-catcher, and I think he will be taken in the 25-35 range in the draft.
Look for Al to take a QB with either our 2nd or 3rd round pick.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 am
Zach Miller practiced limited, Richard Seymour practiced limited, Asomugha, Branch and Chris Johnson did not practice.
Q: Which of those are most likely to play?
Cable: I would say Branch and then Asomugha, both of those guys.
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so basically Zmiller & Nnamdi will play against SD (banged up) as will Seymour & Branch
and despite the lack of production, DHB & Walter Mac will have a chance to redeem themselves this weekend
We may even get to see Jarvis Moss wearing silver & black. I hope he starts his Raiders resume off with a bang. sack/fumble on Rivers!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 am
Orton: 3370 yards, 20 TD’s, 6 INT’s, sacked 29 times, QB Rating = 96
Rivers: 3362 yards, 23 TD’s, 9 INT’s, sacked 25 times, QB Rating = 104
Cassel: 2307 yards, 22 TD’s, 4 INT’s, sacked 15 times, QB Rating = 99
Camp/Grads: 2381 yards, 12 TD’s, 13 INT’s, sacked 33 times, QB Rating = 71
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thoughts ???
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Orton, Rivers & Cassell= Legitimate starting QB’s.
Gradkowski/Campbell= Legitimate backup QB’s.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:41 am
thoughts ???
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As I said all along, we have hands-down the worst QB in the division.
Amazing that we are even in the thick of the race still.
We may have the best D-line in our division, and amazingly not the worst coach.
AFC West = bottom of the barrell NFL coaching
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 am
THOUGHTS–O-LINE ISSUES + AVERAGE AT BEST QB’S =2381 YDS,13 INT’S,33 SACKS ALLOWED,71-QB RATING…
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Good morning all.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Look for Al to take a QB with either our 2nd or 3rd round pick.
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Tolzien
Stanzi
Foles
Mallet
Seem like Al kinda guys. Any others we could think of?
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 am
Although I think Mallet and Foles will probably be gone.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 am
There were two WR’s drafted in the first round this season JFB. Demarius Thomas and Dez Bryant
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 am
JFB,
I will beat you in FF this week!
Last time we played eachother I had Crabtree, Massaquoi & Breaston at WR with Pierre Thomas at RB (who got stuffed on the 1 yard line) & Shockey at TE.
This time I have Mason, Thomas & Amendola at WR with Brandon Jacobs at RB & Keller at TE.
the Podunk Express is rollin bro. prepare to get steamrolled!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Good call BCZ24, forget about the forgettable Thomas.
Either way, there will be a lot more 1st round WR’s this year.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 am
“December is about to begin, and Philip Rivers is 19-0 as a starter in December”.
From Gregg Easterbrook’s tmq.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Would Al trade up for Amukamara or is he good with Routt, who’s played pretty well this year?
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
Mallett will be gone before we pick (which is looking at pick #44 or #45 right now).
I think Ponder will be in the discussion, along with Stanzi.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:47 am
AFC West = bottom of the barrell NFL coaching
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Agreed!
Childress & Phillips > Cable, Turner, Haley & McDaniels
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 am
I’d take Phillips as a coach any day,just not Head coach.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:49 am
Philip Rivers is 19-0 as a starter in December.
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the Patriots were 19-0 until they played the Giants in the Super Bowl, too!
Print That
Dirty Pirates 21
Sand Monkeys 17
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Would Al trade up for Amukamara or is he good with Routt, who’s played pretty well this year?
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Amukamara’s a top 10 pick, so Al would have to sell the farm and the store to move up that high. Much as I love the guy as a player, he’s not worth it. Keep rolling with the improving Routt.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
Tom Cable on Monday morning….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 am
HWNRDR,U OUT THERE ?
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 am
……but we ain’t the Giants Rockstar!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
we ain’t the Giants Rockstar!
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Jason & Darrius = Eli & Plaxico, just watch
the Dolts will too busy trying to cover Miller, Ford & Murphy
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 am
we ain’t the Giants Rockstar!
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Jason & Darrius = Eli & Plaxico, just watch
the Dolts will too busy trying to cover Miller, Ford & Murphy
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LMAO. Much love, RRS. I wish I had your optimism!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:58 am
The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
listen to this. I am FIRED UP, baby
http://chewy75.tripod.com/lyrics.html
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Ok,ok!! You got me!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
RRS,
The Autumn Wind is my ringtone. Never get tired of hearing it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
Still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
if you Raider “fans” are scared of Sandy Eggo, don’t watch the game.
I will be watching the game with my 3 week old son grinning in anticipation, laughing as the silver & black begin demolition on the purple & p1ss yellow
the Lakers are the NBA’s version of the Chargers. prima donnas and I will forever hate both of them
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
RMR,
You go from saying, “The whole team is 5-6.” in post 47 to saying Jano lost the Arizona game in 147. If Grads plays and he does enough to win in your mind, he gets a “W” even if the team doesn’t??
I believe that your second “and” was meant to be an “or” here.
“Those are two games where he cleaned up someone else’s mess and won, “and” did enough to win yet had it ruined by a kicker.”
If you want to count Grads relief of JC a win, from the official count of W-Ls, that’s 4 wins for JC and 1 for BG( St.Louis). JC would get the win for the SD game because he came in and cleaned up his mess as you say plus the teams three game win streak when BG didn’t play. Is this the correct count based upon your logic of you don’t care who starts only who finishes the game? I just want to make sure that I give credit where credit is due…
“# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 am
Uh oh…things are getting interesting. Grads aint going nowhere. He may even come in to clean out Campbell’s mess this Sunday. I hope so.”
Your comment is definitely interesting because the team hasn’t received an official “W” for any games that he started. He does better as the backup.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
the Raiders defense is about to take a sledgehammer to Rivers’ record in December
if we somehow lose this game, it’ll be because Hue Jackson is a sack of crap play caller. THE END
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:07 am
the Lakers are the NBA’s version of the Chargers. prima donnas and I will forever hate both of them
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feel the same way ’bout Newcastle Utd.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:09 am
…………and the French.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 am
yes, I admit that Seabass cost us a win against Arizona … but we still should have beat SF & Miami (at the very least) and be tied for 1st in the AFC West with a better division record than the Squaws
Hoagie is the highest paid kicker in the league and he choked several times this year, but that isn’t a valid excuse for us losing all 6 games this season!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
feel the same way ’bout Newcastle Utd.…………and the French.
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LOL!
Happy Hanukkah Neil
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:15 am
Never been happy saying this player or that player cost the Raiders a game,we all do it and it’s wrong.Win as a team-lose as a team.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
Theres an old school video on youtube of “The Autumn Wind” I watch it before every game. Its all 70s Raider clips of us just pounding people. I love it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 am
hehehe!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
If we’re talking youtube I always watch that one with the Empire strikes back tune on it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 am
neilb Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:52 am
Tom Cable on Monday morning….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tie0tz7jGDI
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Ahahahahhaha!!~ Can we get Mora to replace Cable?!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Oakland has been outscored 204-89 during a seven-game skid in San Diego.
the Raiders avoided a 14th straight loss to San Diego with a 35-27 win in Week 5.
The Raiders have committed six turnovers and allowed 348 rushing yards the last two weeks. After rushing for 679 yards in their previous three games, Oakland has run for 77 the last two.
JCamp was 13 of 18 for 159 yards with a touchdown versus San Diego earlier this season (2nd half) after Bruce completed 1 pass for 7 yards in the 1st half!
what other motivation does this team need ???
if i’m Tom Cable I post this crap all over the locker room instead of patting these grown men on the back and saying “stay the course”
Expert Picks (5) from CBS
Raiders: Prisco, Judge & Richard
Chargers: Brinson & Katzowitz
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/preview/NFL_20101205_OAK@SD/raiderschargers-preview
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 am
If this team shows up, they can win… Remeber last year, with a less talented team, younger team, they beat an Eagles team they had no business winning, a Bengals team that was playing as well as they ever have and a Steelers team at home.
Anything is possible!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:33 am
If this team shows up, they can win
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Agreed, CW.
the formula for beating SD isn’t rocket science, either.
run the ball & stop the run. We did that in Week 5 and came away with a win
Rivers won’t pass for 400+ yards this time around for 2 major reasons
1. Floyd & Gates are banged up
2. Jackson, Crayton & Davis are OUT
3. the Raiders have abandoned that zone D that doesn’t suit our secondary (personnel) very well
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
I listed 3 things, but really “injured receiving options” is 1 category or reason
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:42 am
Off for some dinner.
Have a great Thursday everyone.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 am
I find it HILARIOUS reading all the anti-Higgins material in here. Reminds me of that Biblical passage “don’t point out a speck in your brothers eye, if you have a plank in your own eye”
Higgins is what on the WR pecking order? 5th?
Schilens, Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Ford, JLH and then Nmiller. Right?
the GM sucks, the HC sucks, the play caller sucks, the WR coach sucks, the QB sucks and the O-Line sucks. It’s almost impossible for a #5 WR to put up Pro Bowl numbers or even starting WR #’s in this scenario, isn’t it?
and the “fix it” patch for all these problems is to have Al Davis draft another speedy wideout to ruin?
Mercy… some of you fellas need to take a break or something. Otherwise your wife is going to make a delicious meal and the green beans might get cold by the time they are passed to you and you’re going to snap and throw your plate at the wall concentrating so much effort & emotion on things rather small or even meaningless!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 am
In fact, I’d like to see a comparison of Higgins to other #5 WR’s in this league.
I bet other than teams stricken by injury at WR with Top 5 NFL QB’s (I’m thinking about SD & Indy here) there isn’t anybody out there better than JLH
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
In fact, I’d like to see a comparison of Higgins to other #5 WR’s in this league.
I bet other than teams stricken by injury at WR with Top 5 NFL QB’s (I’m thinking about SD & Indy here) there isn’t anybody out there better than JLH
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That’s a left handed compliment if ever there was one.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
Indy’s Top 4 = Wayne, Gonzalez, Collie & Garcon. the 5th WR would be Blair White
SD’s Top 4 = Jackson, Floyd, Crayton & Naanee. the 5th WR would be Buster Davis (IR) now Seyi Ajirotutu
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
I don’t even think Blair or Seyi are better than JLH, but they could possibly have better #’s due to better QB play … see what i’m saying?
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 am
I notice when I talk up the Raiders this blog is silent…crickets
but when somebody else chimes in with a complaint or criticism there are like 20 responses of guys who agree. talk up the Chargers & hate on our own team, giving them basically no chance to win
some fans, eh?
I live in Missouri and am surrounded by 1st place KC fans. not many Raiders fans in sight. glad i’m not a spineless friggin coward like half of YOU PEOPLE
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 am
Rockstar,
as you have so aptly pointed out here, the Oakland Raiders receiving corps resembles The Land of the Lost.
therefore…put on that ol’ thinking cap Mr HueJack and see if handing the ball every play to Michael Bush isn’t a better option.
whatever happened to the secret weapon Marcel Reece? Is he being saved for some unknown future?
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
the problem with higgins is his lame attitude the guy dances on a first down catch…of which arent nearly enough…..
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 am
glad i’m not a spineless friggin coward like half of YOU PEOPLE
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Im a spineless coward? Thats a little rough dude.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
whatever happened to the secret weapon Marcel Reece?
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M, good question!
with Zmiller banged up I thought we should have used Reece as a TE more on passing plays having Bush in the backfield with DMAC or Barnes in as an extra blocker
even Myers was pretty much ignored in the passing game
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
Rockstar,
of the 300 people in Podunk (and yes I am aware that ~300 Spartans held off 3,000,000 Persians at Thermopylae), how many of the citizens sport the Silver and Black?
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am
yes, I admit that Seabass cost us a win against Arizona … but we still should have beat SF & Miami (at the very least) and be tied for 1st in the AFC West with a better division record than the Squaws
Hoagie is the highest paid kicker in the league and he choked several times this year, but that isn’t a valid excuse for us losing all 6 games this season!
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He definitely was a major contributor to that L. But there was other points left on the table too. I mean 1/5 in the red zone isn’t that great.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
BCZ,
I wasn’t trying to single anybody out there. just making a general statement
I’ve never watched the Raiders win a Super Bowl on live TV or seen most the the “greats” from the glory days and I feel like even those old dudes have packed it in. I know losing isn’t fun, but I’d rather lose with class than be right about predictions and look like a complete d-bag in the process
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:09 am
Higgins isn’t that bad but since he took that big hit last year or the previous one, he has looked scared. He does seem to be getting it back now though.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:11 am
of the 300 people in Podunk, how many of the citizens sport the Silver and Black?
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LOL!
M, probably just me and my little boy
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Blind optimism = losing with class
Realistic predictions = being a douchebag.
Gotcha.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
That’s a left handed compliment if ever there was one.
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PA,
Mike Vick would be a nice left handed compliment to Johnnie Lee!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Bcz24,
there’s always blind predictions and realistic optimism as well.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
BCZ,
let me ask you a question… if you don’t think the Raiders can beat SD, why even watch the game?
A. to prove yourself wrong?
B. glutton for punishment
C. you won’t watch it
I could see hanging your head a little bit more if they beat us in Week 5 and we were out of the playoff hunt. Come on man! You’re better than that!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Higgins is worthless. He would not even make the roster of another NFL team. He had a chance to step up when we had injuies to our starters and he did virtualy nothing with that opportunity. Why are we even talking about this scrubb?
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:18 am
Higgins is worthless. He would not even make the roster of another NFL team.
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LOL!
you can always count on NMD. I think i’ll change my nick to No Mas Diapers
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
RR why all the man love for this guy? Don’t get it… he has done nothing in two years. Nothing. The stats don’t lie. When he does manage to get a completion he celebrates like he just won the lotto. Come on RR. You’re smarter than that..
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
I hope the coaches & players don’t take the same stance as you fans, with 5 games left in the season … “we went from 1st to 3rd after losing to Pittsburgh & Miami? we’re done. time to start looking at ski resorts for Jan & Feb!”
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:23 am
let me ask you a question… if you don’t think the Raiders can beat SD, why even watch the game?
A. to prove yourself wrong?
B. glutton for punishment
C. you won’t watch it
I could see hanging your head a little bit more if they beat us in Week 5 and we were out of the playoff hunt. Come on man! You’re better than that!
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I dont think we will beat the Chargers because of the lack of effort displayed the last 2 weeks. They have looked pitiful. I watch the game because I hope they prove me wrong and display the effort and will to win we had going into the bye week. Why shouldnt I be hanging my head? We have gotten crushed the last 2 weeks by teams with critical injuries. No effort. No will to win.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:24 am
Mike Martz for HC!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
I am not giving up on these guys at all. here is a repost of a comment i made last night.
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Barring a miracle, our season has come down to this game. Win and we are still more or less in the thick of things in the AFC West (which does not say a whole lot for the division, by the way). Lose and we are looking up at a mountain too big to climb. We must win this game. If we can run the table on the other teams in our division then we are in, but it starts this week. That’s three more games. Cable pulls that off and he saves his job, maybe. Everybody has to play. Nobody sits.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
NMD, I still see potential in JLH
why is that such a problem for so many of you ???
say we cut Johnnie Lee… that means more snaps for Nick Miller and we would promote Damola Adeniji or Shaun Bodiford from the practice squad. nothing would be added to the passing game bro! whats your angle? you think we’re gonna drop this guy and it’ll solve ills that stem from much bigger problems?
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
Mike Martz doing a nice job with the Bears and Jay (pork) Cutlet…
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:32 am
BCZ,
I agree that there was a huge lack of effort displayed the past 2 weeks. not prepared or motivated. I’ve said that many times, but this is a different week and we’re 3-0 in division games.
Don’t forget that our WIN against the Chargers last time came after 2 losses to Arizona & Houston (games we also should have won)
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
Shaun bodiford….hmmm portland state stand out I think I know that kid! Hes is smallish tho and was a slot type of guy!
GOOD MORNING NATION!!!
Must win I agree!!! Our WR are fine our D needs to step up (secondary) and Jamarcus Cambell better be ready to go!!! If we win this game I predict we sweep the division!!!
hows that for
“Blind optimism = losing with class
Realistic predictions = being a douchebag.”
Mixed in a little of both for yous guys this fine morning!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
Rockstar,
yes, inside of each molecule there are the potential forces of a universe…so, Johnnie Lee just needs to unleash his nuclear potential to become a galaxy of stars????
Not holding my breath on that one, although it would be kinda cool to see a human being burst into the brilliance of a billion suns.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:36 am
GOOD MORNING NATION!!!
Must win I agree!!! Our WR are fine our D needs to step up (secondary) and Jamarcus Cambell better be ready to go!!! If we win this game I predict we sweep the division!!!
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gm OAKlifer!
Bodiford was awful in the preseason.
Jason Campbell comparison to JaWalrus?
yikes bro, really?
regardless … coffee is on me today
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:37 am
Deep thoughts with M Lonetree “Handy”
Always well spoke brother!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
yes, inside of each molecule there are the potential forces of a universe…so, Johnnie Lee just needs to unleash his nuclear potential to become a galaxy of stars????
Not holding my breath on that one, although it would be kinda cool to see a human being burst into the brilliance of a billion suns.
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M,
that went WAY over my head professor!
all I heard was JLH and “not holding my breath” does that pretty much sum it up?
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:41 am
Coffee!!!
Long time since I heard that one whats that waitress name again…Ah heck either way Another round on Double R!!!!
Nahhh kinda joking bout the Jacarcus comparison he dosent have the arm…LOL But he does “JC” need to step his game up…I liked getting JC for that cheap but now he must preform or were on the next years project!! And I read in here a few days ago some folks talking bout bringing back JR if this happens I will become a PATS fan!!!! Ouch was that lighting…..
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
Man, isn’t Cable allowed to answer anything? All his answers are bla bla (let me check with Al) bla (its all up to Al) bla bla (the rotation of the ball).
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:43 am
joking bout the Jacarcus comparison he dosent have the arm…
some folks talking bout bringing back JR if this happens I will become a PATS fan!!!! Ouch was that lighting…..
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LOL!
Gabby will come to your table shortly
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:47 am
*lightning
GABBY!!!! wow is she a sight for sore eyes!! LOL no cream strong and black just like my QB’s!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 am
I notice when I talk up the Raiders this blog is silent…crickets
but when somebody else chimes in with a complaint or criticism there are like 20 responses of guys who agree. talk up the Chargers & hate on our own team, giving them basically no chance to win
some fans, eh?
I live in Missouri and am surrounded by 1st place KC fans. not many Raiders fans in sight. glad i’m not a spineless friggin coward like half of YOU PEOPLE
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I think if the Raiders come out swinging, they can beat anyone.
Where’s Plunketthead with the
63 Raiders
3 Chokers
?????
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Man, isn’t Cable allowed to answer anything? All his answers are bla bla (let me check with Al) bla (its all up to Al) bla bla (the rotation of the ball).
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HAHAHA…
Its toting the company line at its best Cable in many ways one of uncle Al’s puppets but he has been the best one since Gruden IMHO he never says anything but it always seems he is at least trying to do his thing and not let AL have too much control wich will lead to his demise!! but is good to see!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
The Raiders Offense has dropped to #30 in 3rd down conversions.
That’s their problem pure & simple. Look at that stat, and correlate it with the Top Teams in the NFL.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=ALL&tabSeq=2&role=TM&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DOWN_3RD_PERCENTAGE&d-447263-n=1
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
I wouldnt be surprised to see Kyle Boller come into the game, at the half, say, help lead us to a victory, and then ride a white swan over the final four games/playoffs.
Or
The Raiders get destroyed by another 30+ and the whole organization rides a black goose to another 5-11 season.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:59 am
THOUGHTS–O-LINE ISSUES + AVERAGE AT BEST QB’S =2381 YDS,13 INT’S,33 SACKS ALLOWED,71-QB RATING…
explains all SIX LOSSES in a nutshell,
in fact I’m going to crack a couple filber and walnuts off the coffee table, leftover from Thanksgiving right now.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 am
I wouldnt be surprised to see Kyle Boller come into the game, at the half, say, help lead us to a victory, and then ride a white swan over the final four games/playoffs.
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Kyle Boller riding a white swan?
LOL!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
in fact I’m going to crack a couple filber and walnuts off the coffee table, leftover from Thanksgiving right now.
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Did you know that Hazelnut is a fancy name for filbert nuts they sell them for more $$$ and every thing you learn alot in this great oregon country!!1
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
The Raiders Offense has dropped to #30 in 3rd down conversions
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Yup.
No sustained drives lead to no points which lead to a tired defense which leads to defeat.
Hue’s playcalling has to go find a way to get the Raiders into 3rd and short situations.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
Oaklifer,
doubt many teams will be beating on Cable’s front door offering him an HC position after the gig in Oaktown is over.
He was doing okay, not great, when O-line only. The Peter Principle once again descends without remorse.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
I think if the Raiders come out swinging, they can beat anyone
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LA!
thats what I’m talkin bout
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:04 am
you learn alot in this great oregon country
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what ever happened to that kid who tried to blow up a Christmas tree parade in Portland?
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
“in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to their level of incompetence”.
Again well spoken ML!
Im one of the fools that hope he stays another year or two depending on next years outcome stable hand to guide the ship. But if he is cut loose I see a Oline job in his future he is not quite HC material but could become something of that sort!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 am
doubt many teams will be beating on Cable’s front door offering him an HC position after the gig in Oaktown is over.
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NCAA Division II
LIVINGSTONE, PACE, TIFFIN, SIMON FRASER, MINNE CROOKSTON, LOCK HAVEN, LANE COLLEGE or WV ST UNIV
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Not Sure Double R,
Alot of people were thinking along the lines of a
FED set up….well ive said to much!!!LOL
GO RAIDERS!!!
OAK 21
Sandy eggo 17
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:17 am
THOUGHTS–O-LINE ISSUES + AVERAGE AT BEST QB’S =2381 YDS,13 INT’S,33 SACKS ALLOWED,71-QB RATING…
did not know,
thanks for the information!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Morning peoples!
Some of the players have admitted that they came out flat — no intensity — against the Dolphins. Does that concern you?
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I’m telling you. When the offense can’t move the ball or get a first down. It really hurts our defense. Not because their on the field for so long, but they just come out flat. Our defense feeds off our offense.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
gm peeps does our oline still suk?
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 am
That thing about the players admitting they came out flat is disturbing as hell.
They had just gotten beaten up and humiliated in Pittsburgh. And yet they come out flat?! Where’s their pride, their testicular fortitude? I think a great many guys decided after the Steelers game “Well, here we go again” and folded the tent rather than digging deep and re-committing.
Gradkowski the fiery sparkplug couldn’t get them going. Cable, who is supposedly liked and respected and a good motivator, couldn’t bring them up. After a second drubbing at Miami’s hands, I don’t see them ever managing to dig out of the pit this season.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
A new study suggests there are 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the universe…and the Raiders have none.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:46 am
After a second drubbing at Miami’s hands, I don’t see them ever managing to dig out of the pit this season
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PA, I see your point … but tend to disagree
this SD game comes just at the right time. Put simply, I’d be more concerned about playing the Lions or Panthers this week and playing down to the competition than a hated AFC West rival that we beat in Week 5
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
M,
Al Davis > 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
Chaz Schilens practiced in a limited role
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DMAC, what did I tell ya?
Week 16 is coming up quick!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:49 am
They had just gotten beaten up and humiliated in Pittsburgh.
SD came out flat against Rams after we beat em, Same with Chiefs against Broncos week after we beat them
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:49 am
Yeah just in time.
week 16
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
Antonio Gates (feet) said he’s “undecided” about playing in Week 13 and it will likely come down to another game-time decision.
“I don’t want it to be a lingering thing through the season,” Gates said. “I want to get it where I’m able to contribute (at a high level).” Gates reportedly came out of the Colts game better than expected, so the odds would seem to be good that he’d give it a go again this weekend. NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora has reported that Gates “should play.” He’s hoping to run and cut later in the week, but we probably won’t know until Sunday for sure whether or not he’ll be in uniform. Dec. 2 – 12:14 pm et
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I don’t think he’ll play. Their mentality is….”its only the Raiders”
We need to put a hurting on Phillip.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
Results from Nnamdi Asomugha’s second MRI are in!
the MRI revealed that the shutdown corner has 2 broken ankles and had to have two screws in each one …
the good news is that Raiders HC Tom Cable says “It’s just sore.” and he is listed as probable to face San Diego this week
-PFT
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
With Ryan Mathews (ankle) due back this week, Mike Tolbert and the rookie are expected to “split time in some fashion” against the Raiders.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Malcom Floyd (hamstring) missed Chargers practice on Wednesday.
Though he was held without a catch and played just 13 of the Chargers’ 61 offensive snaps (according to Pro Football Focus) Sunday night, coach Norv Turner insisted after the game that Floyd hasn’t suffered a setback. Perhaps he hasn’t, but he’s a risky fantasy option with such a minimal role.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
I’m going w/ a 3 teamer this weekend. (parley)
Any suggestions?
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
I don’t think he’ll play. Their mentality is….”its only the Raiders”
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after us, SD faces the AFC West leading Chiefs and then the 49ers who are playing hard right now competing for the NFC West crown
If Gates doesn’t play, that means they expect the Raiders to lay down and take a beating like a whipped puppy – I hope they do have this mentality and take us lightly
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
DMAC,
time for you to put away the Lamont Jordan dancing shoes you’ve had on since the bye week. it’s time to brawl.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
MRI’s dont look at bone injurys and wouldnt determine a broken ankle. That would be an Xray
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
# M Lonetree Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
DMAC,
time for you to put away the Lamont Jordan dancing shoes you’ve had on since the bye week. it’s time to brawl.
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I’ve already went back to my Adidas this season. No more turf toe Nikes. It would be nice to run every now and then, w/out a LB in my face as soon as a touch the rock.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Is Chaz’s 5th menstral cycle healed yet? Any MRI done on that?
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
With Ryan Mathews (ankle) due back this week, Mike Tolbert and the rookie are expected to “split time in some fashion” against the Raiders.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
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Ryan Matthews made his first return from the ankle sprain against us too… and did nothing. Yippeee. Ryan Matthews = bust.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 am
M,
LaFat Jordan can dance?
I know he took up boxing to get in better shape 1 offseason, then lead the league in rushing until his back injury. enter Justin Fargas
He’s also known for biting towels and playing for the 2 teams Al Davis asked him not to sign with as a wink & nod agreement – the Pats & Donks
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:05 am
MRI’s dont look at bone injurys and wouldnt determine a broken ankle. That would be an Xray
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are you calling me a “professional liar”?
I’m feeling a bit Mortensoned right now. hehe
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:07 am
after getting whipped by the Rams at home, Dungver is on a 3 game road trip, LOL
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 am
DMAC,
some punk LB in your face…give him a Seymour
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
Darren will do a “McClain” to Weddle after breaking for a 45 yard TD run
after the play is over, there will be a scrum
recall the Amendola incident
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:11 am
Tough to give him a Seymour when your receiving a hand off in the back field.
Hand off or Seymour?
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:13 am
P Rivers on the WK5 loss to Oakland
“it felt like a scrimmage”
Marty Schottenheimer: punch the Raiders in the mouth and they’ll fold. hang around and let them beat themselves
MOTIVATION CABLE. USE IT!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
The most optimstic my inner Kool-Aid drinker can get is Raiders 24 – Chargers 23 in a stunner that sees Jano gain some redemption for Arizona by booting a GW 50 yard FG as time runs out.
The best case scenario the realist in me can muster is Chargers 33 – Raiders 19.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 am
Okay, okay, I’ll say Chargers 31 – Raiders 19 so Oakland at least covers the spread.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:20 am
I would much rather Rolando repeat last weeks interception than the Amendola powerbomb of the top rope Captain Insano style.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
Djohnnyg Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
12.inonewordraider Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
God I hope we beat the Chargers
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God is the only one who could make that happen and He’s got enuff problems to deal with.
There is no way in he** the Raiders will beat the Chargers this weekend.
We’re 5-7. Best to just accept it and figure how we’ll get to 7-9.
I wish it weren’t this way, but there is just NO WAY Raiders win this game. In fact, I think Raiders will get humiliated by at least 3 TD’s. There is just NO WAY.
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this post might be tru in the past
but I don’t believe this team goes that route
let’s hope for hope sake the team doesn’t feel like that post
raiders 24
chgrs 21
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
Raiders 24 – Chargers 23 in a stunner that sees Jano gain some redemption for Arizona by booting a GW 50 yard FG as time runs out.
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PA, I’ll take it!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
DMAC,
Jim Brown used to cradle the ball in his left arm and give an uppercut to the jaw of would-be tacklers with his right fist.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
275^^^^^^^^^^^ anyone?
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
I would much rather Rolando repeat last weeks interception than the Amendola powerbomb
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you and me both
Can’t allow SD to run on us like Miami did though!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Quarter by quarter scoring gonna look like this:
Raiders 3 6 10 0
Chargers 7 3 7 14
In other words, close game at halftime, lead going into the 4th and we all get hopeful before a 4th quarter collapse.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
Raiders 24 – Chargers 23 in a stunner that sees Jano gain some redemption for Arizona by booting a GW 50 yard FG as time runs out.
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PA, I’ll take it!
+++++++++++++++++++
I’d take that all day, all night, all week. But I honestly can’t lie to you and say I really think it’ll happen.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
# M Lonetree Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 am
DMAC,
Jim Brown used to cradle the ball in his left arm and give an uppercut to the jaw of would-be tacklers with his right fist.
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Sorry to break the news to you, but I’m not Jim Brown.
I’m DAMC.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
Sorry.
DMAC
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:26 am
Quarter by quarter scoring gonna look like this:
Raiders 3 6 10 0
Chargers 7 3 7 14
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nah PA, I see it like this:
Raiders 3 6 10 7
Chargers 3 3 7 7
Oakland 26-20
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:28 am
would much rather Rolando repeat last weeks interception than the Amendola powerbomb
If were losing bad, I’ll take the powerbomb or Seymour smackdown ala Rapelisberger
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
the Raiders haven’t swept the Chargers since 2001
We’re due!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Hey Dirt Lot…I’ve been on vacation the last 2 weeks and hardly had time to even look in here! After that Miami game…geez…I almost sold my last 2 tix! But…that was just emotion…but if we don’t win at least 2 of the last 5…no more season tix (for now)…
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
How about the Raiders build a huge lead, helped by a RoMac interception, and then to rub salt in the wound he powerbombs Rivers in the 4th quarter.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Actually…I’ll be back in the (early) AM on Monday…
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
How about the Raiders build a huge lead, helped by a RoMac interception, and then to rub salt in the wound he powerbombs Rivers in the 4th quarter.
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PA,
I think theres a better chance of Johnnie Lee Higgins having 150 yards and 2 TD’s this Sunday
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:33 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am
How about the Raiders build a huge lead, helped by a RoMac interception, and then to rub salt in the wound he powerbombs Rivers in the 4th quarter.
That’d be the best Christmas gift I could get! How bout an Andre Johnson style beatdown with no suspension!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Sad to say…that was actually funny, but I guess that because Seymour wasn’t suspended…why suspend them two, huh? (But unless my eyes deceived me, that was a full on fight, was it not?)
That’d be the best Christmas gift I could get! How bout an Andre Johnson style beatdown with no suspension!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Konichi-wa there Hwnrdr, OAKlifer has been holding the fort in your absence.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 am
How bout an Andre Johnson style beatdown with no suspension!
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I’d like to see Houston or ShoNasty rip off Marcus McNeill’s helmet and punch him in the face a few times!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:49 am
What’s up M? I’ll actually be back in tomorrow but at a later time…and since my department just moved…I’ll probably have to take care of all that BS tomorrow…
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
I just tried and it didn’t let me…too darn funny
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 am
How bout an Andre Johnson style beatdown with no suspension!
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I’d like to see Houston or ShoNasty rip off Marcus McNeill’s helmet and punch him in the face a few times!
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This would be nice!!! But we cant lose anymore d-linemen we are short handed as it is.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
What’s up Rockstar…little one already watching Raider games, huh? Nice (in a Mike Tyson from the Hangover voice)
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
Good read – BRING BACK CHUCKY!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/479805-oakland-raiders-need-to-bring-back-chucky#page/1
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 am
Can’t allow SD to run on us like Miami did though!
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Miami wasnt that effective running the ball though. They carried the ball 51 times for 186 yards which is only 3.6 ypc, and our defense was on the field for 48 minutes! Without the late 45 yard run by williams against our dog tired defense they only mustered 2.8 ypc. I will take that every day of the year. The 186 yards we gave up falls squarely on our offenses inability to sustain any drive of longer than 7 plays the entire game.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:02 am
I know huh? SMH
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
What’s up Rockstar…little one already watching Raider games, huh? Nice
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Hwnrdr, oh yeah man!
we watched the Raiders get embarrassed against Pittsburgh together, but since the Miami game wasn’t televised I wasn’t going to hold him in my arms for 3 hours so close to the computer screen. it’s been fun bro
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Miami wasnt that effective running the ball though. They carried the ball 51 times for 186 yards which is only 3.6 ypc, and our defense was on the field for 48 minutes! Without the late 45 yard run by williams against our dog tired defense they only mustered 2.8 ypc. I will take that every day of the year. The 186 yards we gave up falls squarely on our offenses inability to sustain any drive of longer than 7 plays the entire game.
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any thoughts from the Hue Jackson & Bruce Gradkowski support groups?
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
This would be nice!!! But we cant lose anymore d-linemen we are short handed as it is.
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Will,
Jarvis Moss will make his debut this week imo and Desmond Bryant might get some play at end according to Cable (just to spell guys) Houston may even get some DT work in!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:26 am
Pit is allowing 3.0 yards per carry. So for us to average 3.6 ypc with our defense on the field for 48 minutes is pretty freakin’ outstanding!. Our run defense has dramatically improved since early in the year when teams were averaging 5.0 ypc.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 am
John Henderson, Desmond Bryant & Jarvis Moss is adequate depth behind starters Houston, Seymour, Kelly & ShoNasty imo
factor in that Wimbley & Groves can play DE too, if need be – but that would leave guys like Goethel, Howard, Brown & Williams at OLB
the talent is on the roster. I want to see what DC Marsh has planned for Rivers on Sunday!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:30 am
for us to average 3.6 ypc with our defense on the field for 48 minutes is pretty freakin’ outstanding!. Our run defense has dramatically improved since early in the year
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Agreed!
but long runs count, too. no Raider fans would argue that DMAC only averaged 2 ypc against Denver without those 4 or 5 gains of 20+ (just an example, not sure on those actual stats)
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 am
Steve Corkran’s take
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_16754966
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Agreed!
but long runs count, too. no Raider fans would argue that DMAC only averaged 2 ypc against Denver without those 4 or 5 gains of 20+ (just an example, not sure on those actual stats)
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3.6 ypc INCLUDED the 45 yard carry by Williams. It was only 2.82 ypc without that run.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 am
Hey Raider Nation……… If youre going to be in San Diego this weekend, you should check this out…..
http://bit.ly/ezI6SH
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
Who should I go with?
Indy over Dallas or Philly over Houston?
Colts are 7-3 against the spread
Eagles are 9-2 against the spread
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
The 186 yards we gave up falls squarely on our offenses inability to sustain any drive of longer than 7 plays the entire game.
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any thoughts from the Hue Jackson & Bruce Gradkowski support groups?
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Great post Double R,
I will admit I wanted bruce to play if he was healthy Jason just looks scared of the rush and he sometimes looks as if he is confused. Bruce is a spark plug not an NFL starter i’lll give that but I thought the guys might rally boy was I wrong!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
W A G ????
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
OAKlifer,
but Corkran’s take is that Jason plays better when he knows that Cable won’t pull him for a relief QB.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:43 am
OAKlifer Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
The 186 yards we gave up falls squarely on our offenses inability to sustain any drive of longer than 7 plays the entire game.
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any thoughts from the Hue Jackson & Bruce Gradkowski support groups?
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Great post Double R,
I will admit I wanted bruce to play if he was healthy Jason just looks scared of the rush and he sometimes looks as if he is confused. Bruce is a spark plug not an NFL starter i’lll give that but I thought the guys might rally boy was I wrong!
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Scared ? You would be scared too if you were running for your life every down. Every down thier’s a 6″6 300 pound linemen bulldozing through our pathetic line hitting Campbell. Trust me you would be watching your back too. Campbell wasnt this bad in Washington by any means. Cable gets all the blame in my book. He doesnt have these guys ready to play. I liked that article that was posted earlier about Gruden and how he would have the raiders playing if he were coaching.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 am
I was extremely nervous going into the Miami game, and I think we actually have a better chance of winning this weekend.
Seems like we always come out flat and lose those “must-win” games at home against average opponents, than hit the road and give a much better team all they can handle.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:45 am
SOMEBODY CUT THE CABLE!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
Chargers 42 Raiders 13.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 am
Our QB’s and WR’s are putting our O-line in a total position to fail.
There are no short throws to make, because DB’s don’t fear our WR’s ability to go deep and make a play, so they are in tight pressing our WR’s. Ford has done so a few times, but every time he is still single covered and running free.
Our QB’s never escape the rush and take off running and pick up the 8 yards needed on 3rd and 7. Campbell will throw it out of bounds, and Bruce will throw a forkball in the dirt to the TE short of the sticks.
And because of all of this, defenses are taking away the run and rushing 5,6,7 guys at the QB. Five O-lineman, maybe a TE or a RB stand zero chance. You can have the O-line do a great job, but Myers will wiff on a blitzing LB, Campbellkowski will do nothing about it, and everyone blames Cooper Carlisle or something.
O-line needs improvement, but if Campbell completes some 3rd down passes and maybe gouges them for a 50 yard pass, the pass protection and run-blocking will “magically” improve all of a sudden.
It is no coincidence.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:53 am
3.6 ypc INCLUDED the 45 yard carry by Williams. It was only 2.82 ypc without that run.
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something smells fishy about those stats, BCZ.
I’m not sure somebody could make a case that a team couldn’t run the ball on us if they had 50+ rushing attempts and controlled the clock for 48 minutes!
I’m also curious to know how many runs resulted in first downs … I don’t know many teams that kill the clock by putting on a passing clinic bro – do you?
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
Sadly…unless the team comes out and punch SD in the mouth…I will have to agree with Dakota on this one!
# Dakota Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
Chargers 42 Raiders 13.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
Chargers are not going to beat us by 30 points folks.
Get a grip, they are a .500 team!!!
Jason Campbell is going to outplay Peyton Manning the previous week against SD, and than we can all sit around for a week and listen to Mystic1 tell us about the wave of the future, until the next Campbell stinker.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
Our QB’s never escape the rush and take off running and pick up the 8 yards needed on 3rd and 7. Campbell will throw it out of bounds, and Bruce will throw a forkball in the dirt to the TE short of the sticks.
And because of all of this, defenses are taking away the run and rushing 5,6,7 guys at the QB. Five O-lineman, maybe a TE or a RB stand zero chance. You can have the O-line do a great job, but Myers will wiff on a blitzing LB, Campbellkowski will do nothing about it, and everyone blames Cooper Carlisle or something.
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good point, JFB. I have found it odd that the O-Line can utterly dominate in the run game and hold its own in pass pro in some games, but look like complete trash in both categories in other games.
I thought it had to do with coaching or motivation, but you bring up some good theories here, as always
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
339.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
Chargers are not going to beat us by 30 points folks.
Get a grip, they are a .500 team!!!
Jason Campbell is going to outplay Peyton Manning the previous week against SD, and than we can all sit around for a week and listen to Mystic1 tell us about the wave of the future, until the next Campbell stinker.
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I only have them beating us by 29!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 am
Sadly…unless the team comes out and punch SD in the mouth…I will have to agree with Dakota on this one!
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in other words, unless we play to win … we will lose
LOL
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Jason Campbell is going to outplay Peyton Manning the previous week against SD, and than we can all sit around for a week and listen to Mystic1 tell us about the wave of the future, until the next Campbell stinker.
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LOL, agreed
I can see JCamp struggling early, but coming up BIG late. certainly wont have 4 INT’s with 2 of them returned for scores!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I am all for improving the O-line, really any position actually. If you can improve, do it.
But the notion that this team will never have a good passing offense unless we just throw a bunch of early draft picks on some lineman is ludicrous.
Jared Veldheer’s job will immediately become easier if Jacoby Ford can go 4 catches for 110 yards every week. Or if DHB could actually have a 9 catch 120 yard game (I know….we are just speaking hypothetically here).
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
RaiderWill Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:43 am
Scared ? You would be scared too if you were running for your life every down. Every down thier’s a 6″6 300 pound linemen bulldozing through our pathetic line hitting Campbell. Trust me you would be watching your back too. Campbell wasnt this bad in Washington by any means. Cable gets all the blame in my book. He doesnt have these guys ready to play. I liked that article that was posted earlier about Gruden and how he would have the raiders playing if he were coaching.
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RDUb,
The line plays well when we are running the ball and both Bush and Dmac are getting touches ALOT of them That falls on the O/C the jacman as far as coming out flat Cable should get some blame but I say only about 50% The PLAYERS sgould take maybe 60 to 85 percent of that falls right on thier shoulders they are football players as a coach you can only do so much shouldnt they want to win as well and be fired up and vocal and lead and make palys? every team has 6″6 300 guys that belong in the NFL And yes coaching has alot to do with it but so do the players imho. Gruden over Cable yes but just to fire Cable for some reason would be stupid when was the last time we were playing meaning football in Nov/Dec?
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
So, maybe the Lakers will win the lottery this year? 4 straight losses…never seen such a thing!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Jared Veldheer’s job will immediately become easier if Jacoby Ford can go 4 catches for 110 yards every week. Or if DHB could actually have a 9 catch 120 yard game (I know….we are just speaking hypothetically here).
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dont forget Higgins 5 catch 95 yards game and Murphys 3 catch 75 yard game as well. with Zmiller getting 3 catches for 26 yards all of them being TD’s
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I hope Lebron hobbles off the court to an avalanche of empty beer cups tonight.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I have resigned myself to the Cubs, ND and the Raiders sucking….but now the Lakers too?
My world is crumbling!
I need a Twinkie!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
331.M Lonetree Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 am
OAKlifer,
but Corkran’s take is that Jason plays better when he knows that Cable won’t pull him for a relief QB.
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I sure hope so. Jason should be able to ball no matter what he has the talent he just needs to “let it loose”
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
The Raiders Offense has dropped to number 30 in 3rd down conversions.
That’s their problem pure & simple. Look at that stat, and correlate it with the Top Teams in the NFL.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=ALL&tabSeq=2&role=TM&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DOWN_3RD_PERCENTAGE&d-447263-n=1
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I could have sworn I read #351 once before KK!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I hope Lebron hobbles off the court to an avalanche of empty beer cups tonight.
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So many self-righteous haters!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Remember the 2011 lockout situation. I think they will play football, but holdout half-way through the preseason.
So a lot of teams aren’t going to bring in a new staff and install a new system, and be way behind the eightball as compared to other teams with continuity at the HC position.
If Cable won’t be back, it will be Hue, and really that is like the difference between drinking two forties or a 6 pack. One is easier to dispose off and costs less, the other has fancy packaging and seems more “normal” , but in the end, it is still a cheap drunk buzz.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Vegas, need a little hand here.
Should I roll w/ the Eagles 2night or go w/ the Colts over the Dallas?
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
The Lakers are on a bad stretch right now…but I’m not worried about it as of yet…come April and we’ll see…
Right now I just hope the Raiders can have a revival of a must 5 game win streak and KC to lose once prior to January 2nd!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
So, maybe the Lakers will win the lottery this year? 4 straight losses…never seen such a thing!
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thats not enough. I want to see them lose to the Kings & Clippers this week!
LOL
meanwhile, hasn’t Boston won 5 straight?
Hmmm….
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
NFL Playoff Machine says that based on power rankings, we need to win out to make playoffs, and then have a rematch with PIT in Rnd 1
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
how in the world is ford gonna catch anything if satalle, carlisle and walker keep tripping over their own feet?
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Boston blows.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
So many self-righteous haters!
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no kidding …
LeBron will give the Lakers all they can handle on Christmas Day. You might as well call him the Grinch, because you know he’s going to steal away a victory with a last second buzzer beater!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Thats just about right Redneck…unless all other top teams lose out…wait, who am I kidding?
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Vegas, need a little hand here.
Should I roll w/ the Eagles 2night or go w/ the Colts over the Dallas?
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Errrr……tough one.
Don’t like the Eagles that much tonight. Vick has kind of came back to earth the last 6 quarters.
Can’t imagine Peyton playing that bad for an extended stretch, but they are probably laying more points I would imagine (rarely look at lines anymore)
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
LeBron? Nah…remember that grizzly game with 5 seconds left and a foul to give?
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Lakers currently have fewer wins than the Spurs, Mavs, Celtics & Magic.
tied with New Orleans & OKC
Denver & Atlanta are on the rise too!
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
olinesux Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
how in the world is ford gonna catch anything if satalle, carlisle and walker keep tripping over their own feet?
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I don’t remember seeing them trip over their feets on the two picks this past weekend.
I say a FB lined up on a S and DHB in single-coverage, but a noodle-armed QB underthrowing and making a bad decision with the ball.
I say a play-fake that worked wonders, about a ten foot bubble around our QB and a WR with no one around him on the sideline.
Completely awful throws, with plenty of time to do so. So with that, defenses will just say but 8 in the box, attack the back-field and ball carrier and take their chances with JLH , Murphy (two WHO ACTUALLY DID TRIP OVER EACH OTHER), and DHB not making any plays down the field.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
So many idle internet bloggers making judgments about the moral turpitude of players. Particularly black players.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Vegas,
I’m going w/ a 3 teamer parlay and have Rams and Saints so far. I need 1 more. Any suggestions?
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
New post
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
something smells fishy about those stats, BCZ.
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Fact. They carried the ball 51 times for 186 yards. You know darn well that Henne picked us apart over and over again on third down. Wheezy gave up what 7 first down completions alone? You tell me I am a douchebag for doubting the Raiders will beat the Chargers, but then tell me when I provide imperical data proving our run defense has improved that my data is fishy? Which is dude. Make up my mind for me.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I have resigned myself to the Cubs, ND and the Raiders sucking….but now the Lakers too?
My world is crumbling!
I need a Twinkie!
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MR should be here any moment.
Soup kitchen kicks him out at 12:30.
December 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
mustve been watching what al watches…a fast reciever down field…meanwhile langston walker was tripping over his own feet so much that grads had to step
up in pocket before he even hit his full dropback….hence the underthrow.