Johnson, Branch sitting it out
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Cornerback Chris Johnson was not present as practice began after warmups and drills Wednesday, while safety Tyvon Branch was talking wtih trainer Rod Martin and did not appear to be practicing.
Johnson missed the Miami game with a groin strain, and Branch has a shoulder injury.
Everyone else was present, and that included wide receiver Chaz Schilens (foot, knee), cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), tight end Zach Miller (leg contusion) and even Bruce Gradkowski (separated shoulder).
It remains to be seen which players will actually practice and how much. Gradkowski was doing little more than jogging through drills that didn’t include the throwing of a football.
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December 1st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
crap! we need more DB’s!
December 1st, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Chaz was able to lace his shoes up without tearing anything?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Gradkowski was doing little more than jogging through drills that didn’t include the throwing of a football.
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what good is a QB that cant throw the football?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Blessing in disguise.
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what good is a QB that cant throw the football?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Chaz was able to lace his shoes up without tearing anything?
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as reported back in May, Chaz will be ready by Week 16 … just in time for the playoffs!
December 1st, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Zach Miller (foot) participated in Raiders practice Wednesday.
The Raiders’ decision to practice Miller on a Wednesday when he’s been totally ineffective while playing through the injury and also aggravating it is a head-scratcher to say the least. It looks like the plan is for Miller to face San Diego. He’s still not going to be a fantasy option.
Source: Vittorio Tafur on Twitter
December 1st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
DMAC,
The dropoff from Z Miller to Myers is such a gaping hole they just keep shoving him out there.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Nnamdi & Zach were both at far less than 100 percent against Miami … probably closer to 50 and it really showed
keep N21 on the shelf this week. We got Legadoo & Seyi anyways. Next week we’ll have Mike Thomas, Mike Sims-Walker & Marcedes Lewis!
December 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Don’t be surprised if Chaz, dislocates his finger scratching his azz on the sidelines at practice.
Just sayin.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
We need DB’s that can make a play…. And a huge pass rush….
The Raiders have to get in Rivers face…he’s playing very well … Gut check time…..
Let’s see who wants to play….
December 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I agree RR
December 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
They should of never been on the field last week.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
DMAC,
right now it would take Zmiller 11 minutes to run a mile … still 2 minutes better than JaMarcus
December 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RR,
When #21 was in street clothes CJ was out there filling in admirably while also injured so #21 can suck it up and put on his ballerina shoes dont you think?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
DMAC Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Don’t be surprised if Chaz, dislocates his finger scratching his azz on the sidelines at practice.
Just sayin.
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This is a hilarious post.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
now here is the deal, cable has been putting these guys on the shelf lately. he plans to break them out this week. the reason for all this bs? he didn’t want san diego to have recent film..
December 1st, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Why no use Reece as a extra TE or WR. It’s not like it will affect the run game w/ him not playing FB.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:25 pm
*not
December 1st, 2010 at 1:25 pm
As much as I hate Rivers, I sure wish he was our QB. Wow, did I just say that?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I’ll take a Jon Kitna right about now, over JC etc.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Lat night priesttj used the word “derelict” but spelled it “derolic”. I almsost sprayed my coffee allover my monitor about 630 this morning laughing at that one…
Sometimes a little irony is the funniest thing.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Last*
December 1st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
#21 can suck it up and put on his ballerina shoes dont you think?
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Brown,
Nnamdi was about as useful on the field last Sunday as he was the previous week mouthing off to Rich Gannon on Sirius radio about the QB “controversy”
December 1st, 2010 at 1:28 pm
almost*
December 1st, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Lat night priesttj used the word “derelict” but spelled it “derolic”. I almsost sprayed my coffee allover my monitor about 630 this morning laughing at that one…
Sometimes a little irony is the funniest thing.
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TJ must be a liberal
December 1st, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RR,
Be with you in a moment still correcting my typos.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
#21 was on Sirius radio while injured talking about the Qb’s? That is FANTASTIC!
Did Gannon bring up his lifetime stats of 8 years?
11-Career INT’s
1- Career TD
December 1st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Much more important for CJ to play than Branch, Mitchell should play instead of him on passing downs anyways. We need all the corners we can have this week, or WMac will have an even worse time this sunday
December 1st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
“Well R Gannon was never any good and he was a white Qb so I couldn’t care less about that derolic….period”
-priesttj
December 1st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
If Branch can’t go, who steps in? MM?
If Nnamdi can’t go, who steps in? Ware, Mcfadden?
Would rather go w/ Ware.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Don’t like Rivers either but the guys playing out of this world right now…the Pass rush has to get to him early so he’s thinking about it all game long….it’s gonna take Choker mistakes to get a win down there…..
December 1st, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Mista,
Back off TJ, because, for a man(or)woman with Down’s Syndrome, he is exceptionally high functioning. He can polish a urinal with remarkable efficiency and grace.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
lol
December 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
DMAC,
if Nnamdi is already practicing on Wednesday … he’ll play on Sunday, barring a setback
I hope he’s matched up with Floyd though, who is battling an injured hammy. too bad the Raiders lock him on 1 side of the field and Rivers isn’t afraid to go after him!
Huff will probably be in the slot covering SD’s 3rd WR – seeing how both rookie CB faired the past 2 weeks
that means more snaps for Stevie Brown & Mike Mitchell, even if Tyvon is good to go by then
December 1st, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Raiders injury scenario:
usually if a player can practice by Friday or Saturday, even on a limited basis – they’ll be active on Gameday
they even tested Nnamdi on Sunday morning before the Steelers game to see if he was ready, but he wasn’t (probably still isn’t)
December 1st, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Waddup fellas – Finally got to see a game from the official black hole section in the south side of the end zone on Sunday…unfortunately we played terrible, but had a good time nonetheless sitting amongst the hundreds of drunk Raider faithful….The opening kickoff return by Ford was probably my greatest live Raider fan moment ever. Being opening kickoffs already have everyone on their feet with the anxiety of the game starting coupled with Ford busting loose down the middle had us going BONKERS! Had a great time….it was good to be amongst ya’ll.
Now, about those terribly under-thrown picks by Grads….good grief….that performance definitely made the 6 hour ride back down to SoCal a lot longer….
Did Bess look as good on TV?…hot damn, live, he looked like Jerry Rice against McFadden, Routt and (gulp) Nnamdi…No one could stop that kid….
December 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Is any team receiving less in return for huge salaries than the raiders? DHB, Namdi, T. Kelly are stealing based on production. DHB is getting nearly 1 million per catch and Namdi..Well…when has he ever made a game changing play?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Has Ware really been that bad?
I thought he played fairly well, w/ limited action + being a rookie
Did give up the TD in Pitts, but who hasn’t given up a TD this year.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
MB, who would you say is the best CB in the NFL? Revis has 0 interceptions this year also, is he bad also? Or is he just starting to get Nnamdi treatmet?
December 1st, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Namdi is badly under-performing his contract and his first few years were just plain awful. He is a fine player, but not worth having 16 Million in salary tied up for a below-average team.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:47 pm
breakin news aftera light jog, chaz schilens dislocated his big toe. He seems pretty upset about it.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:48 pm
nmamdi is the mvp of this team…
December 1st, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Jon Condo is the MVP of this team.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Revis has something like 14 INT’s in his 3 or 4 yr career. #21 has 11 Int’s in 8 years. This year both Revis and #21 have none but Revis has been consistent throughout his career where #21 had about 6 of his 11 INT’s in 2006 alone, the rest of those years were empty.
Hard to say who the best DB is there are so many factors involved. I like both Cromartie’s, Revis, Bailey.
December 1st, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Bruce Davis is the MVP of this team
December 1st, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 11:37 am
Stefen Wisniewski in the 2nd,Austin Pettis in the 3rd, Colin Kaepernick in the 4th,
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You’ve been drinking far too much of your own sauce. Stefan Wisnieski will be gone within the 1st 15 picks. We’ll be extremely fortunate if we can get Mike Pouncey for the center position when our pick comes up. He too will go late 1st round or early second round.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
yeah cuz int is how you measure a cb importance…deangelo hall for mvp!
December 1st, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Kaepernick’s got a lot of moxie. Loved that Nevada-Boise game. One of the better college games I’ve seen in a long while.
But I just can’t see Al drafting a spread option QB, even if Colin’s improved his passing this year, he’s a run-first guy.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Anyone who says that N21 is stealing money doesn’t know much about the game of football. I some of the same people saying that about W24. He only went on to be Defensive player of the year.
N21 in only put into a position to take away 1 wr or one side of the field. he does that on a consistant bases.
In comparison, look at what W24 did when he was with us, same thing. Lack of INT is due to the lack of opportunity and defense that Al like to run.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I’d love to see Al draft Moore and install a WCO, but that’s not going to happen either.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:07 pm
According to Gradkowski:
“I don’t see the season being over for me yet,” Gradkowski said. “I mean, I’m not going to go down yet. I’m just going to keep preparing, just keep rehabbing. But I’m thinking a couple of weeks and get back. If we can make a run here, keep doing well in our division, I think we’ll be all right.”
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Sorry Bruce, your 15 minutes of fame is over. We love your leadership, mobility, energy level and dedication but, your inadequacies far outweigh the pluses. Keep a good thought. You can always tell your kids you beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. You had your shot more than once and the results are in. BTW, we won’t be renewing your contract next year so make your injury settlement a good one. Your future may depend upon it.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
colin kap would look good in silver and black….
December 1st, 2010 at 2:11 pm
I like Christian Ponder in the 2nd round.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I also like Mallet, fits AL Davis kinda QB.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
# SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Waddup fellas – Finally got to see a game from the official black hole section in the south side of the end zone on Sunday…unfortunately we played terrible, but had a good time nonetheless sitting amongst the hundreds of drunk Raider faithful….The opening kickoff return by Ford was probably my greatest live Raider fan moment ever. Being opening kickoffs already have everyone on their feet with the anxiety of the game starting coupled with Ford busting loose down the middle had us going BONKERS! Had a great time….it was good to be amongst ya’ll.
Now, about those terribly under-thrown picks by Grads….good grief….that performance definitely made the 6 hour ride back down to SoCal a lot longer….
Did Bess look as good on TV?…hot damn, live, he looked like Jerry Rice against McFadden, Routt and (gulp) Nnamdi…No one could stop that kid….
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(gulp) Nnamdi, lol, nic epost, pretty much summed up how we lost completely.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:14 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I’d love to see Al draft Moore and install a WCO, but that’s not going to happen either.
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I doubt if moore makes an nfl roster. he is the new tim rattay slightly taller
December 1st, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I don’t like ANY qb’s in the draft if Hue Jackson is the play caller and Tom Cable is the HC …
first things first!
the D-Line is set if Seymour agrees to a long term deal
the entire O-Line goes in the toilet with Cable if we don’t win 3 of the next 5 games (except for Veldheer & BCamp)
if we have another Cable & Jackson show next year, we might as well roll with Campbell, Boller & Frye at QB imo
December 1st, 2010 at 2:15 pm
# RaiderWill Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I also like Mallet, fits AL Davis kinda QB.
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Big stiff,overly emotional, stinks in big games he is ryan leaf
December 1st, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I don’t like ANY qb’s in the draft if Hue Jackson is the play caller and Tom Cable is the HC …
first things first!
the D-Line is set if Seymour agrees to a long term deal
the entire O-Line goes in the toilet with Cable if we don’t win 3 of the next 5 games (except for Veldheer & BCamp)
if we have another Cable & Jackson show next year, we might as well roll with Campbell, Boller & Frye at QB imo
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You kidding me this is a pretty good qb class we got coming out this year. There are quite a couple of guys out there that can get the job done. A few studs will develop for sure. Ryan Mallett can be one of them.
Im with you with Cable and that stinky O-line. But I think Cable is going down the toilet no matter what. Jackson is going to be a hot coaching prospect this offseason and unless the raider finish at least 9-7 Hue is taking over, Davis is not letting him go that easy.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:20 pm
N21
G TK Asst Sacks Yds Int Yds TDs PD FF FR
117 260 38 2.0 15.5 11 69 1 60 2 1
Revis
G TK Asst Sacks Yds Int Yds TDs PD FF FR
57 180 37 1.0 9.0 14 179 2 72 2 5
W24
G TK Asst Sacks Yds Int Yds TDs PD FF FR
179 673 126 12.5 88.0 47 833 10 157 26 10
December 1st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
mistic1 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:15 pm
# RaiderWill Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I also like Mallet, fits AL Davis kinda QB.
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Big stiff,overly emotional, stinks in big games he is ryan leaf
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He played a good game against LSU this past Saturday. He aint mobile but he has the arm.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:26 pm
We lost the last two weeks cause the play calling sucked.Throw some slant routes to the fast guys on this team.Like the Niners use to throw Rice.Also more screens would be nice too.Use what you got.Don,t do the same lame crap every week Tom and Hue.Do that we will win.its all on the coaching staff.We have good enough players to win.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Rockstar…
Congrats, on the new addition to your family…
Get the little guy working on wind sprints as soon as he is able. Never to early to start building up that “Raider speed.”…lol
December 1st, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Hot Shot Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:26 pm
We lost the last two weeks cause the play calling sucked.Throw some slant routes to the fast guys on this team.Like the Niners use to throw Rice.Also more screens would be nice too.Use what you got.Don,t do the same lame crap every week Tom and Hue.Do that we will win.its all on the coaching staff.We have good enough players to win.
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What game were you watching. Trust me has nothing to do with the play calling. Our offensive line is getting run over like ROAD KILL! If you cant block you pass or run.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:28 pm
JB you out there
Stefan Wisnieski has dropped on alot of draft boards so far this year and so has Pouncey… Almost all of the boards have him going late 2nd… Kristopher Odowd has jumped past them… Colin Kaepernick isnt an Al Davis Qb but he does have a big arm and has show cased several time s in big games this year. Alot of ppl have him maybe playin wideout in the pros but he is determined to play qb thats why is run 1st attitude has slowed down. We need a mobile qb with pocket awareness.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I dont really like Mallet he has a Leaf attitude about him but he has a rocket arm but looked at what happen with the last guy who had a rocket arm..He’s currently eatin at a chick-filet
December 1st, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Who’s gonna pick up Stefan Wisnieski in the first 15 rounds????
December 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
The raiders never use their players right.They havent for 7 years now.We dont use the speed we have.They draft all these fast guys but dont give them a chance to show the speed they have.Wasted picks if your not going to use them.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:30 pm
I dont really like Mallet he has a Leaf attitude about him but he has a rocket arm but looked at what happen with the last guy who had a rocket arm..He’s currently eatin at a chick-filet
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Russell dint have the stats that Mallett has. Mallett is coming out more proven from college. Kid has thrown back 2 back seasons over 30tds. J Buss had one season of 28.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Im curious on where Newton will land up
December 1st, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Tebow has alot of great college stats….So does Gino Toretta….. Mallet is not the answer at all
December 1st, 2010 at 2:34 pm
I think Cable is going down the toilet no matter what. Jackson is going to be a hot coaching prospect this offseason and unless the raider finish at least 9-7 Hue is taking over, Davis is not letting him go that easy.
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Will, interesting take
Hue Jackson is a failed OC in Washington, Atlanta and now Oakland, but you think he’ll be a hot HC prospect?
He was a pretty good asst coach though with WR’s in Cincy and QB’s in Baltimore!
December 1st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Im curious on where Newton will land up
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Def coming out he is not staying by any means. With all the allegations that are stirring in the pot. He’s one and done. It will be it will be interesting to see who drafts him. I like him here man. I think he’s going to be good.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:36 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Im curious on where Newton will land up
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hopefully in silver and black, or give me vy. Guys that could make an impact with play making ability. We cant get luck, these are the only two that make any sense to me.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Hue Jackson sucks.Hes just a little better at play calling then cable.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Congrats, on the new addition to your family…
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thanks 909!
December 1st, 2010 at 2:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 2:34 pm
I think Cable is going down the toilet no matter what. Jackson is going to be a hot coaching prospect this offseason and unless the raider finish at least 9-7 Hue is taking over, Davis is not letting him go that easy.
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Will, interesting take
Hue Jackson is a failed OC in Washington, Atlanta and now Oakland, but you think he’ll be a hot HC prospect?
He was a pretty good asst coach though with WR’s in Cincy and QB’s in Baltimore!
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I see what your saying with the backround. But look what he does with player development. I think a big reason why Mcfadden is as good as he is this year is because of Jackson. Also he implemented the power blocking scheme in Oakland. Give him credit for the way we have run the ball with the horrible line we got. He’s had to draw it up here pretty well to get what he has gotten. We are getting in the end zone a sh*t more than in the past. I think he deserves a chance.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
its all on the coaching staff.We have good enough players to win.
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Agreed, Hot Shot
Cable said prior to the season that this is a playoff team. Over the hump and all that jazz. So if the players aren’t motivated, hungry or prepared that falls back on the coaches. If the aren’t being used to the best of their abilities or being put in a position to succeed, that also falls back on the coaches.
One could even argue that fundamental mistakes like fumbles, false starts, offsides, holding, PI’s, etc fall on the coaches too (but I usually don’t)
December 1st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Buy it cuz I bought it and now Im selling it!!! Hue will turn things around.
December 1st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
new post!
December 1st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Use guys like Nick Miller more.You have that guys speed and he can catch but how often do they give him the ball.DHB hes fast and how often do they throw a short pass to him to allow Yards after the catch.Fast guys dont need bombs throw short and let them do the work.
December 1st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
9.DMAC Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Don’t be surprised if Chaz, dislocates his finger scratching his azz on the sidelines at practice.
Just sayin.
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Surprised? I fully expect it.
I’d love to have Schilens job. He gets paid a half million a year to do NOTHING!
December 1st, 2010 at 3:30 pm
37.89052RAIDER Says:
December 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Is any team receiving less in return for huge salaries than the raiders? DHB, Namdi, T. Kelly are stealing based on production. DHB is getting nearly 1 million per catch and Namdi..Well…when has he ever made a game changing play?
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You tell me. I’ve been saying to trade him for a good QB for a while now.
7 straight losing seasons WITH him.
How much worse could it get WITHOUT HIM?
December 1st, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Hot Shot Says:
The raiders never use their players right.They havent for 7 years now.We dont use the speed we have.They draft all these fast guys but dont give them a chance to show the speed they have.Wasted picks if your not going to use them.
Agree 100%
It’s not the coaches either. Al brings in coaches who he feels can run the Offense and Defense the way he wants.
Most or all of the player drafted over the past 7 years have been drafted in the right placed base on what the experts say.
McClain. Top 10 talent
DHB- Late first rd talent
DMC- Top 10 Talent
JaRuss- Top 5 talent, but bust potential was also mentioned
Michael Huff- TOP 10 Best (Safety in the entire draft)
Fabian Washington- 1st or early 2nd rd Talent
Robert Gallery- Top 5 talent (Best Lineman since Pace)
Nnamdi Asomugha- Late first early second rd talent.
All this the say, at some point, we have to stop blaming the coaches and the player and look at the system their in. Aside from Russell and Fabian, everyone of these player would benefit if they played in a system that allowed them to show their talent.
December 1st, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Also, Aso his not having an off year at all. He had one bad game vs Mia werhe he gave up 5 for 60+ yards, but in 7 or 8 games before that, he gave up 5 for 87 yards.
December 1st, 2010 at 11:40 pm
@89052Raider and mistabrown I can’t believe what i’m hearing from yall about the raiders most consistent player. Nnamdi has not under performed his contract at all. before he got the big contracr he didnt have pretty stats because he is always avoided. Nnamdi was a safety coming out of cal and al davis wanted him to play corner so he had to work at transitioning from a safety to a corner for a couple of years and he struggled a little at first but he has worked his way into the best corner in the nfl and dat is unheard of cause most guys who try to make dat move FAIL and if they do succeed they don’t become the player that asomugha has become so dat transition took a couple years off his career but from 2005 until now he has been great for the raiders and in 05 he was paired with charles woodson but it was woodson who the raiders couldn’t count on to lock down the opposing #1 receiver so Nnamdi was mostly matched up against them and held his on.(he wasn’t great) but i think dat 05 season is where da asomugha legend began.. and the very next year when teams texted him is when he made them pay and had his best statistical season with 8 int’s.. There was an interview where warren sapp said that in dat 05 season there were times dat nnamdi played perfect coverage and broke on the ball perfectly but he never got the int’s cause he could’nt catch and he hadn’t fully developed his ball skills..that changed in 06 and he has been the best corner every since. Here is a stat that i heard that will show what opposing quarterbacks feel about him…asomugha was thrown at 27 times last year, revis was thrown at 97 times last year(that nuber mite be higher but i remember it being 97). and now dat we have lost 2 in a row and he gave up a few catches in a game which he was clearly not healthy yall wanna bash him.. If he is healthy and qb’s test him trust me..those int number will increase.. and branch is a stud also..is just dat he has to spend most of his time round the line of scrimmage and when he is in coverage the lack of coverage by rout,johnson and huff make him look like he isn’t doin his job but if you listen to john marshall he will tell ya dat da those corners are not doin their job…
December 1st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
*tested*