End of a QB `controversy’
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Whatever was left of the Jason Campbell-Bruce Gradkowski controversy, if it ever evolved to that, was put to rest Thursday.
Gradkowski went to the injured reserve list, J.T. O’Sullivan was signed as the third quarterback, and Campbell, unless there’s a move toward Kyle Boller, will get a chance to play without looking over his shoulder.
Although he wasn’t available for comment, it’s unlikely this was Gradkowski’s idea. He joined the team for Wednesday’s practice, jogging through drills, and was with the team at the Thursday morning walkthrough.
Not long after the Raiders came off the field at 12:15 p.m., O’Sullivan was arriving at the practice facility with a member of the support staff and Gradkowski got the news he was done for the season.
You wonder if Gradkowski’s eagerness to return this season, laudable in a competitor, was something the Raiders simply didn’t want to deal with as the season was coming to a close.
Campbell was signed to an extension after being traded to the Raiders for $4.6 million next season, and it makes sense for the club to let him get those five games in, health permitting, or determine whether to go in a different direction.
“It would be a week a week or two weeks before he could even throw again or practice,’’ coach Tom Cable said. “You look at what’s left on our schedule. It’s just not enough time. I think it was a good decision made to move forward.’’
More news, notes and observations from Thursday:
— Rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain missed practice with a foot injury of undetermined severity. He’ll have an X-Ray and MRI. Cable said he didn’t know if it was an issue for the San Diego game.
“We hope not,’’ Cable said. “It was a little sore yesterday, nothing to even talk about. All of a sudden today it was sore. So we’re investigating it.’’
— Defensive tackle Richard Seymour did not practice with a knee injury. A Raiders spokesman said they mistakenly wrote “shoulder’’ on the previous day’s report.
— O’Sullvan has bounced around the NFL after a successful career at UC Davis, having been with 11 teams, three of which he actually saw playing time with four of them.
He got his most extensive playing time with the 49ers in 2008, completing 128 of 220 passes (58.2 percent) for 1,678 yards, eight touchdowns and 11 interceptions before being benched in favor of Shaun Hill.
“We know a little bit about his background, (Passing game coordinator) Ted Tollner was with him in San Francisco,’’ Cable said. “So he’s got some experience and a little bit of the terminology. And he has started a few games in the NFL.’’
O’Sullivan also spent some time early this season with the Chargers, who not coincidentally happen to be Sunday’s opponent. Might that be a reason he was signed?
“I don’t know so much about that, but it certainly doesn’t hurt to ask,’’ Cable said.
— Cable conceded that fullback Marcel Reece has gone off the radar in recent weeks but he doesn’t expect it to stay that way.
“I don’t think there have been opportunities like there were early,’’ Cable said. “He was a very impactful player for us there for a stretch, and people are defending the heck out of him now. I think there will be opportunities as we move forward.’’
— Wide receiver Chaz Schilens practiced on consecutive days for the first time since training camp, although he was still listed as being “ limited.’’
Maybe he’ll make it into a game this season after all. He looked spry enough dodging reporters when he initially came off the field following the morning walkthrough.
Also limited were CB Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), SS Tyvon Branch (shoulder) and TE Zach Miller (leg, plantar fascia).
CB Chris Johnson (groin) is not making a lot of progress, didn’t practice and looks as if he’ll miss a second straight game.
— Defensive coordinator John Marshall, his unit having given up 68 points in the last two games and struggling with its pass rush and coverage ability, was more tight-lipped than usual in his session with the media.
Marshall has saved his most pointed criticisms at a much higher decibel level for the meeting rooms.
“(We’re) not making plays, basically, and the rest of the comments will stay in house because it deals with players,’’ Marshall said.
– The Chargers gained 506 yards on the Raiders in the first meeting between the teams, including 431 yards passing by Philip Rivers.
However, Oakland put the game away by blitzing Rivers on six straight plays, with Michael Huff coming up with a sack/fumble recovered by Branch that was returned 69 yards for a touchdown.
While not revealing anything to do with a plan of attack, Marshall said, “:I think when you play defense if you’re too cautious then you’re not playing defense. So you play and you rely on the players making plays.’’
— Marshall said his unit’s strength against San Diego was “our coverage, our DBs and our defensive line pass rush.’’
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December 2nd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
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December 2nd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Duece
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
76.raiderfankirk Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Dakota he drafted him and kept him thinking he was garbage? C’mon man. lmao
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Jon Gruden may have drafted him, but he also waived him in May of 2008.
Jon can admit a mistake.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
“You wonder if Gradkowski’s eagerness to return this season, laudable in a competitor, was something the Raiders simply didn’t want to deal with as the season was coming to a close.”
It’s no wonder. It’s as obvious as Al Davis is old. Al is eliminating the next Jim Plunkett’s competition. Just Win Baby…but only with the QB who I think is the next Jim Plunkett.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Cable conceded that fullback Marcel Reece has gone off the radar in recent weeks but he doesn’t expect it to stay that way.
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Not sure about off the radar.
He fumbled his carry from the wildcat, and was the target of a pass that was intercepted.
Raiders were trying to force the ball to him and got burned.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm
# socalraider2408 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
The two (Gruden and Gannon) were workaholics and settled for nothing less then perfection. What ever happened to those days???
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What happened to those days?
Are you pretending to be this confused?
Al Davis traded Jon Gruden for chump change and draft picks, then eventually replaced interim head coach Bill Callahan with Norv Turner. After Norv Turner Al decided to stray further from the Gruden type of coach by hiring Art Shell. After Shell, Al finally hires a Gruden type coach, only to fire him practically minutes later.
As far as QBs like Gannon? We just had one, and Al just got rid of him today.
Either you have some serious issues with your attention span, or you’re just being sarcastic. I’m here to help if it’s the former. Just let me know
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
I’m thinking Hue and Cable wanted Bruce to start Al wanted Jason and so Al is pretty pissed and feels like damn it I’m right again
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Jon Gruden also blasted Colt McCoy about his twangy voice and nobody could understand him, and also talked up Tebow and his great leadership.
Well so far, McCoy is doing fine and coaches and teammates rave about his leadership and competiveness. Meanwhile, Tebow can’t even get some run in 59-14 blowouts and his “leadership” is having zero impact on the Donkeys.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
I for one, am CELEBRATING!!
I am glad they put Grads on IR. Now he can concentrate on healing properly. There was no way in hell he was going to have his second third degree separated shoulder healed with games to play. He would of pushed his shoulder attempted to play, and received his third, third degree separation.
Now the musical chair QB game can come to an end. What a freaking distraction rotating QB’s was becoming.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm
As far as QBs like Gannon? We just had one, and Al just got rid of him today.
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Comparing Grads to Gannon?
Keep up the comedy!
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
best News of the day, Grads in IR. Now at least we can try and finish the season on a strong note and make a push for the playoffs without any distractions and that too from a guy with a bum shoulder
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Yes the musical chairs got tiresome but why isn’t any body blaming Campbell?
He was the one given the starting job and who lost the job to Bruce in the first place.
If he could have mustered up more than 3 points in the half against the Rams, none of this would have ever happened.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Drexl, I wouldn’t celebrate. For instance, on Sunday, if Campbell looks like the same old Campbell, I will not be celebrating. I will continue to root for him. I will not laugh hysterically and make fun of him and his supporters here if he lays a typical Campbell egg, like in Pittsburgh. SD has a nasty defense, too. I’m pulling for him. I don’t root for the demise of Raiders players.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Yea its AD’s fault Grads could not keep his shoulder out of a sling.
Damn you Al!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
When you consider the Raiders have averaged 6.8 wins and 9.4 losses since 1995:
9 Stating QB’s
8 Head Coaches
1 General Manager?
How insignificant the Campbell vs Gradkowski debate is.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Of course JC is going to look the same. He is not growing into that “Plunkett” mold AD thought he saw in him.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
OK. Here’s my take. May be tough for some to swallow:
Al is red-eye pissed about the miami game. He is white fire hot. He is so furious he has to be restrained. After a medical support team calms him down, a three day attempt, a monumental feat at that, he summons Cable to his chamber.
Al says: Cable, I didn’t know you when I hired you, but you’ve grown on me. So I will give you a choice. Before I pull out the overhead, what’s it gonna be.
Either you and Bruce are outta here, or Bruce is outta here. You hearin’ me?
Tom says: Sir, you know how I feel about you and this organization. No way I can go. I’ve started something here and………..
Al interupts: Don’t get carried away there young fella. I started something here and I’ll finish it. To save you the embarrasment, put Bruce on IR, season ending, and come into my office here on Friday and we’ll talk game plan. Now get outta here (actually, Als’ tirade was full of expletives I can’t use here).
Gentlemen, that is how I read between the lines. A shroud of mystery and confusion wrapped in a waste can.
As Cable rolls down the dark corridor, he thinks to himself, pizza or chinese, pizza or chinese, pizza or……………
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Grads is a FA next year. Being that JC is already under contract through next year and given Grads medical conditions over the years and his propensity to get injured, I highly doubt that we’ll see Grads back unless it’s on a minimum salary NFL contract. I don’t see other teams going after him for the same reasons we are aware of. He’s simply not going to be in great demand. This year might very well have been is last chance.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
I disagree, Drexl. I believe in Al Davis, and the Raider mystique. Al Davis said that Campbell reminds him of Plunkett. I’ll take his word for it. He has 3 super bowl rings. How many do you have? And I’m supposed to believe you when you say that AD was wrong about Campbell? Never. I’m a real fan. I will be watching on Sunday. And I will not start laughing at Campbell, making fun of him and his supporters, HYSTERICALLY, if he turns out to play bad. I believe.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Everyone always said that it would help Jamarcus to sit and learn for a little bit.
Although I never heard of a 30 year old, 60 game starting in the NFL QB ever needing to sit and learn, maybe this will be of benefit to Jason.
And hopefully he realizes that completing 60% of your passes, not making a horrible mistake, not providing any leadership while losing 17-10 is worse than what Bruce was doing, as bad as that may have been.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Jerry…
There will be a QB conroversy by half time Sunday, when thousands of half in the bag Raider fans will be yelling at they’re t.v. “Put Boiler in there!.”….
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:35 pm
He got the “W” in relief so he has a boxers chance. One block punt, maybe a timely INT, and multiple long drives and we are right there.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:35 pm
LMFAO!
I to believe in the shrine that is Al Davis! In fact you may have heard me mention: “Al Davis should be on Mount Rushmore”!!
I can still call backup QB’s what they are.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
JB,
There is nothing guaranteed about Campbell’s contract next year. We can cut him and owe him nothing.
If he flounders the last 5 games, he will be looking for the same jobs as Bruce.
On the flip-side, if he plays well, he will probably be looking for an extension.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
I wasn’t laughing at BG when we were losing. I was upset because I like to the RAIDERS win.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:37 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Jerry…
There will be a QB conroversy by half time Sunday, when thousands of half in the bag Raider fans will be yelling at they’re t.v. “Put Boiler in there!.”….
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Count me as one of the half in the bags then. I have already been yelling it! Ask my seating section. LOL!
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Well, Drexl, if you want to be a cup half empty, be my guest. I believe the cup is half full. Jason Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett. Al says so. I’m going with that. We’re going to kill San Diego. And if it goes the other way? I promise, I will not pile on JC the way people are piling on Gradkowski right now. Seriously. I won’t.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
They needed to get this over with and they did because Bruce was running his mouth nd the affectively shut it. Now they can get to winning games and stp the crap with the fans booing JC before he ever touches the field.
Now he can relax and play knowing he can play loose and not have to worry that if he starts slow that he’ll get pulled he canactually play through it and come from behind to maybe win a game.
They also have gotTo have to find a way to get Bush involved in this offense. To have a RB of his talent going to waste is flat out dumb. DMC has got to play better and I know the Oline is the issue but he has missed some opportunities to cut back and become a football player. It’s not going to alwyas be blocked exactly right you as a RB have to find a ways to move the defense. And he has that ability he just hasn’t done it.
There are 3 players that shuld be in every pass play for the rest of the season DMC, Ford and Zack Miller those 3 can make plays. Everyone else should be there to open the field up so those 3 can make plays. If the Raiders understand that and do that this passing game will take off and never slow down. You cannot acct for all 3 and still take away the deep ball. That will give DHB plenty of room deep he and Murphy.
Get it done.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
JFB
Jezus H. Krist man, Campbell’s numbers/results, were/are better, get over it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Hey, is anyone going to watch the Cavs vs Heat tonite?
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
# LB Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
I wasn’t laughing at BG when we were losing. I was upset because I like to the RAIDERS win.
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Fair enough. Allow me to put it this way, then.
I won’t be any tougher on Campbell than you were on Gradkowski.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Well, Drexl, if you want to be a cup half empty, be my guest. I believe the cup is half full. Jason Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett. Al says so. I’m going with that. We’re going to kill San Diego. And if it goes the other way? I promise, I will not pile on JC the way people are piling on Gradkowski right now. Seriously. I won’t.
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I to believe we will kill SD. It wont be because of JC though.
I think AD meant Kyle Boller reminded him of Jim Plunkett, let Boller air it out Al!
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Drexl, if Campbell sucks, I’m going to be just as critical of him as priest, mistic, and LB are of Gradkowski. No more, no less. I think that’s fair.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Best move of Cables less than mediocre career, dumping grads. Cable should have settled on a starter and stuck with him. Really he should have left Campbell alone from the begining ,and allowed him to take his lumps. If Cable had done that in the begining we wouldnt have receivers saying that they dont have chemistry with the qb going into week 12 of the season.
Cable got rid of grdas, and now we are going to get rid of cable.
Martz or Trestman as hc next year.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
LB Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Hey, is anyone going to watch the Cavs vs Heat tonite?
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I wish. I also hope there is a riot and the Heat get run out of town.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
At least Cable and Grad tried to get it done. More of a spark we’ve had than the last seven years.
And I don’t believe Cable let Grads go. Al did.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
JFB
Jezus H. Krist man, Campbell’s numbers/results, were/are better, get over it.
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And the unemployment rate was lower under W than it is under BO.
Not everything is in the numbers.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
# LB Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
I wasn’t laughing at BG when we were losing. I was upset because I like to the RAIDERS win.
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Fair enough. Allow me to put it this way, then.
I won’t be any tougher on Campbell than you were on Gradkowski.
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Agreed. I have no issues saying that he screws up but he should get credit for when he plays well too. He sucked the big one against SF. It was painful to watch, I had to leave the room a couple of times. I just didn’t want him bench for playing bad. It happens.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
# mistic1 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Martz or Trestman as hc next year.
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LOL. At least your honest about the mediocre pool of coaches willing to work for Al.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
And the unemployment rate was lower under W than it is under BO.
Not everything is in the numbers.
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It is, in sports.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
LB Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Hey, is anyone going to watch the Cavs vs Heat tonite?
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I wish. I also hope there is a riot and the Heat get run out of town.
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You catch it on the net.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm
LB, make no mistake, I will give Campbell as much credit for playing good as you have given Gradkowsk for the games that he’s played good. No more, no less.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:38 pm
They needed to get this over with and they did because Bruce was running his mouth nd the affectively shut it. Now they can get to winning games and stp the crap with the fans booing JC before he ever touches the field.
Now he can relax and play knowing he can play loose and not have to worry that if he starts slow that he’ll get pulled he canactually play through it and come from behind to maybe win a game.
They also have gotTo have to find a way to get Bush involved in this offense. To have a RB of his talent going to waste is flat out dumb. DMC has got to play better and I know the Oline is the issue but he has missed some opportunities to cut back and become a football player. It’s not going to alwyas be blocked exactly right you as a RB have to find a ways to move the defense. And he has that ability he just hasn’t done it.
There are 3 players that shuld be in every pass play for the rest of the season DMC, Ford and Zack Miller those 3 can make plays. Everyone else should be there to open the field up so those 3 can make plays. If the Raiders understand that and do that this passing game will take off and never slow down. You cannot acct for all 3 and still take away the deep ball. That will give DHB plenty of room deep he and Murphy.
Get it done.
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This is a better offensive plan than almost anything I have seen from Hue Jackson so far this season.
Black Hole Priest for offensive coordinator!
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
JFB
Jezus H. Krist man, Campbell’s numbers/results, were/are better, get over it.
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And the unemployment rate was lower under W than it is under BO.
Not everything is in the numbers.
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Hum, the Bush years were some of the lowest numbers for new job creation.
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Unemployment rate was lower under Clinton than it was under W. Clinton’s was the last presidency in which the unemployment rate improved. So, this all only proves that employment has been getting steadily worse since 2000. And who became president in 2000?
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
mistic1 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Best move of Cables less than mediocre career, dumping grads. Cable should have settled on a starter and stuck with him.
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Should Cable have stuck with his starting QB last year?
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Man, they are booing the heck out of LBJ, the so called king.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
We need to stay healthy the rest of the way to get to 8-8 for the year. I want improvement. Al Davis needs to let go already. His vision and ways are suited for the 70’s-80’s, but not today’s advanced game. Advanced, I’m talking preperation, technology, etc. We have all that, but have a 80 year old owner acting as GM. I mean really, look around. All respect to Al Davis, but if you are unable to make trips with the team physically, you are unable to be the GM. Get over it!!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Pizza or Chinese?…….
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Raiders for life Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
mistic1 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Best move of Cables less than mediocre career, dumping grads. Cable should have settled on a starter and stuck with him.
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Should Cable have stuck with his starting QB last year?
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I dont care about last year its over, i wante cable gone then.
He should have this year, and his ridiculous jellyfish routine is going to get him and his pet canned.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Good now we can get to arguing how JT O’Sullivan is the savior of our franchise. Guy is as good as gold. I know this cause I went to UCDavis a couple of times to ball and met him twice. He was so good he’d simply PUMMEL the SacState Lizards and had a few good games stuffing it to the SJ Spartans too. He’s just never been given a chance in the NFL. But he’s the real deal. Plus my sister’s brother in law is his tax accountant and he says JT is raring to go. All out for the SnB.
Get your SupaBo tix, JT is DaMan!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Campbell is our only chance at the short-term future at QB, especially now, and I have already talked myself into him having a pretty good game this weekend. 3rd time playing the Chargers in his last 11 months and he has played well the first two times against them, he should be very comfortable.
I have spent a hot minute in here defending Bruce Gradkowski, but……the haters who were right were the ones about his brittleness. He got hurt before camp, during camp and missed a few preseason games, than eventually after his first time playing, and immediately during his second time playaing. LMAO!!!
Brittle Bruce
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Cable finally praticed hat he preached ” cut it loose”, he sent grads to the showers, and sent both his and grads career into the grave.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Pizza, I had Chinese yesterday. Special #3, lol
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I’m Gonna try to be Serios about this Al Davis Deal for once. Leave the Old Man alone yall He wants to Do it his way till the end of his days. He is 80 years old with a few loves left in his life one being the Raiders.
He brought the Game back here to Oakland so he could end his days here. When he passes away the team goes back to L.A. I’d Put My bottom dollar on that so if you live in the Bay you better get to the games before its to late to ever see them in Oakland Again. I dont blame him for not letting go, Who Else would you like To see Run The show I Challenge Anybody here to Come up With A Solid GM……. Till then Pizza or Chinese?
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I’m Gonna try to be Serios about this Al Davis Deal for once. Leave the Old Man alone yall He wants to Do it his way till the end of his days. He is 80 years old with a few loves left in his life one being the Raiders.
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Pure selfishness on his part. If he gave a damn about the Raiders, his players, or his fans, or if he had any class at all, he’d retire.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
How do yall Feel A bout That Holiday BS Deposit for Season Tix Next YEAR LOL>>>>>LMAO
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Cleveland is the trashiest city in America. Made official tonight.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Dhidee99 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I’m Gonna try to be Serios about this Al Davis Deal for once. Leave the Old Man alone
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No problem. If the Raiders ever start winning again, I’ll be certain to not mention Al’s name when giving credit, per your request. Al has nothing to do with it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
# Dhidee99 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
How do yall Feel A bout That Holiday BS Deposit for Season Tix Next YEAR LOL>>>>>LMAO
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I threw that flier in the trash. The deals will get better.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
You’re surprised that the Raiders are trying to take their season ticket holders for as much as they can, in case there isn’t a season next year? So unlike the Raiders, to take their fans for idiots.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Heh, Can Inman dropping bombs on the Raiders and 9ers using some blog called advanced NFL stats.
Lists the Raiders and 9ers as the two likeliest teams to lose this Sunday. Raiders have a 7% chance to win, the 9ers an 11% chance to win.
When it rains it pours.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Amazing so many journalists are critical of the Raiders. We’re the gold standard of the league right now. We just put Grads on the I.R., and have given the QB job solely to the next Jim Plunkett! Can’t they see that?
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:35 pm
^ desn’t get to surprised about anything the Raids do.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
You’re in rare form tonight RMR. Very entertaining…
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
JT to DHB TD!!!! chisel it in stone!
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
We’re the gold standard of the league right now.
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Al Davis should be on Mount Rushmore!!
You kNow it!
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
J.T. O’Sullivan? Seriously??? I realize it’s not a critical position and that chances are he’ll never see the field…but this hack? 8 Years, 11 teams, 31 years old, 8TDS – 11INTS. What’s the point? We know what we have in him (and it’s not pretty.)
Why not bring in a young guy with unknown potential? Let him get accustomed to the coaches, the playbook, meetings, the team, check out his arm? Someone with with at least a chance of making the team next year.
COLT BRENNAN anyone? This move doesn’t make sense to me. At least Brennan might have a future. O’Sullyvan is a has-been never-was. I wouldn’t be surprised if Grads and Campbell are gone next season. That would mean we’ll be looking for 2-3 QBs next year…why not at least get a peak at one starting now. If not Colt, then some other young guy with potential.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
It just amazes me that the media can’t see the obvious, that we are the best team in the NFL again. Campbell is better than Brady and Brees combined now, because he no longer has the stress of losing his job. Amazing these writers would still be so critical. It’s Al hate. That’s all it is. Oh well. It will be their credibility that’s toast after Campbell just lights up the rest of his opponents, takes us to the Super Bowl, and wins league MVP.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
You don`t adjust. You just dominate
Quote from Al Davis.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
In Other News Raiders Sign JT Da Brick As QB And Al Davis hires Dream team Lawyers to Free OJ Simpson More news At 7
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
That’s right, Raiders for Life. If you look at the best teams in the league, they never make adjustments. They just draw their plays in the sand, and come right at their opponent. It’s not like NFL coordinators ever look at game film.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
72.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
That’s right, Raiders for Life. If you look at the best teams in the league, they never make adjustments. They just draw their plays in the sand, and come right at their opponent. It’s not like NFL coordinators ever look at game film.
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Seriously, that is an a “quote” from Allen Davis. I didn’t make it up
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:52 pm
do we have a new oline yet?
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Just one of many brilliant quotes by Al Davis, and why so many other GMs pick his brain. You can see all of the GMs in the game doing what Al does. They don’t adjust. They just dominate. They draw their plays in the sand, and sign players based on nothing more than their track skills.
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:57 pm
olinesux Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:52 pm
do we have a new oline yet?
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Mark Henry From Maryland And Valdeer From Hilside Crips
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
JT O’Sullivan is short, completes less than 60 per cent of his passes, and he sucks.
He could start. Cable likes those kinda guys.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
I give it 2 weeks before the fans start screaming for Kyle Boller.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
It’s looking like Chargers 45 – Raiders 10.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
hilarious, a whole new conspiracy. this time hue and cable wanted bruce, al wouldn’t have it so he…..what? hurt bruces shoulder?!!..lol.
you can spin it and spin it, it is still the same, bruce stank and now he is done!!he was never and will never be a viable starter in the nfl. he was cut by every team he played for but the raiders..did you really think the raiders could make a silk purse out of bruce??? he’s a sows ear.. his best thing was coming off the bench,, deal with it!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
im already screaming for boller…..
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
This week Campbell’s best thing will be coming off the ground after 7 sacks.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
I give it 2 weeks before the fans start screaming for Kyle Boller.
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I’ll start the screaming now, and it’s not that I don’t like Campbell as a man, or because of his race, it’s that I do not like what I’ve seen from him ON THE FIELD: inaccurate, poor decision making, stares down receivers, throws into double & triple coverage, slow moving, indecisive, cannot read defenses, mismatches, blitzes. Yes, we did win with Campbell at QB, but we won despite him. We won because of lights-out defense (Seymore & Co.), unstoppable running game (DMAC), and superhuman effort by Ford.
I’ll admit, I wouldn’t mind seeing what we have in Boller right now. He looked good in preseason, which doesn’t say much, but Campbell has looked bad. Why not see what we got in Boller? Because unless Campbell can completely switch his game up and become a quick hitting, quick thinking, short passing “Gannon-type” QB the losing will continue Sunday.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Raiders 45
San Diego 10
Why? Because Al has ripped special teams, Marshall, Hue, Cable 15 times, Seymour, DMAC, Hererra, Bruce, the water boy, Chris Cortez, the entire Raiderette squad, parking lot attendants, everyone. Went absolutely nuts. For three days. Things are gonna change. Look for the Raiders to come out of the gate mean and nasty.
BTW, no pizza ar chinese for me. Calzone Baby!
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Bruce, Thanks for your service. You provided hope before there was even any reason to believe. I have a feeling you will do really well in the AFL when your shoulder heals properly. I hope you invested wisely – seriously.
Good to see things are now operating more like a normal NFL team again.
Shilenz your next. Less potential, more time on the field. Tom’s got a job to keep.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:39 pm
To win this game, defense will have to dominate, force turnovers, and score.
Special teams will have to block punts, return kick offs for big yards, and kick 3 pts.
Offense better darn well do something.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
never been a boller fan but he did look decent in the preseason and for sure he can’t suck as bad as Japuke.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
When Boller came back against the Bengals, after posting an 8.0 QB rating (4-of-12 [33%] for 37 yards and 1 INT) in the 1’st half, Boller exploded in the 2′nd half, going 14-of-20 [70%] for 174 yards, 3 TDs and 1 INT for a 115.4 QB rating in the final 2 quarters. In back to back games, he (and the entire team) finally seemed to come alive and show the promise everyone had been expecting, as he completed 19-of-27 passes (70.4%) for 253 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs for a career-high 136.8 QB rating in the 48–3 victory in game 14 vs. Green Bay. Then, against Minnesota, he posted a career-high 70.6 completion percentage (24-of-34) for 289 yards, 3 TDs and 1 INT for a 113.5 QB rating.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
NoPassingZone Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
COLT BRENNAN anyone? This move doesn’t make sense to me. At least Brennan might have a future. O’Sullyvan is a has-been never-was. I wouldn’t be surprised if Grads and Campbell are gone next season. That would mean we’ll be looking for 2-3 QBs next year…why not at least get a peak at one starting now. If not Colt, then some other young guy with potential.
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sounds good, but dude nearly died a couple weeks ago.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:53 pm
yep, yep, now that we don’t have bruce (bruise) to pump up we’ll start with boller, we’ll make him the great white hope….rolmao
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
I’ve always wondered why tom cable wears a headset. Dude isn’t talking to anybody. Just watch him Sunday.
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Can I use the side of your head its obviously made of stone making a comment like this.
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# No Mas Diamante Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
JT to DHB TD!!!! chisel it in stone!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# raideredoutL.A. Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
NoPassingZone Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
COLT BRENNAN anyone? This move doesn’t make sense to me. At least Brennan might have a future. O’Sullyvan is a has-been never-was. I wouldn’t be surprised if Grads and Campbell are gone next season. That would mean we’ll be looking for 2-3 QBs next year…why not at least get a peak at one starting now. If not Colt, then some other young guy with potential.
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sounds good, but dude nearly died a couple weeks ago.
He actually got upgraded and is possibly out of the hospital…but based on his injuries, I will be surprised if he can play again, but would have loved it if the Raiders kept him!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
[...] or two weeks before he could even throw again or practice,” the coach said Thursday, per the Oakland Tribune. “You look at what’s left on our schedule. It’s just not enough time. I think it was a good [...]
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
92.raideredoutL.A. Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
I’ve always wondered why tom cable wears a headset. Dude isn’t talking to anybody. Just watch him Sunday.
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That’s really an FM radio. He listens to symphony and opera music. It helps him remain calm during games.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Cables head set is a direct feed from Al Davis’ press box.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
96.504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
92.raideredoutL.A. Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
I’ve always wondered why tom cable wears a headset. Dude isn’t talking to anybody. Just watch him Sunday.
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That’s really an FM radio. He listens to symphony and opera music. It helps him remain calm during games.
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good one!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 pm
in camp this summer i liked colt brennan, the kid has an arm and moxie, he is not a “cable guy” too much party for tc. we have charlie frye he is healing, he knows the playbook.. o’sullivan is here for his san diego knowledge
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
MR, between your A.B alias and RMR you spend roughly 20 hours a day here, correct?
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Colt Brennan, has he even been dicharged from the hospital yet? Playing San Diego this week and your talking about Colt Brennan!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Cable is a tool. I can’t wait til he get the projector. I wish we can get Gruden back or someone close to him. I’m tired of all these excuses about teams are stopping DMAC, teams are stopping Reese, teams are taking away our WRs. It’s 11 on 11. Cable makes it seem like the other teams have 16 guys on the field every play.
A real coach will use the talent we have and get something out of it instead of excuses.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
I never seen so much concern for a 3rd string Qb with 5 weeks left in the season. Always something to whine about…
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Colt Brennan, has he even been dicharged from the hospital yet? Playing San Diego this week and your talking about Colt Brennan
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The whole thing with Colt being cut and accident was just a plot from Cable to fool everyone. He is starting Sunday.
In all seriousness, I hope Colt recovers and is fine
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
I never seen so much concern for a 3rd string Qb with 5 weeks left in the season. Always something to whine about
Exactly my point.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Charlie Frye is on IR. He can’t come back to the Raiders this season.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
# raideredoutL.A. Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 pm
NoPassingZone Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
COLT BRENNAN anyone? This move doesn’t make sense to me. At least Brennan might have a future. O’Sullyvan is a has-been never-was. I wouldn’t be surprised if Grads and Campbell are gone next season. That would mean we’ll be looking for 2-3 QBs next year…why not at least get a peak at one starting now. If not Colt, then some other young guy with potential.
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sounds good, but dude nearly died a couple weeks ago.
He actually got upgraded and is possibly out of the hospital…but based on his injuries, I will be surprised if he can play again, but would have loved it if the Raiders kept him!
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Damn, I didn’t hear about the accident, I Googled it and from the article it looks like the Raiders were about ready to fly him in:
“He was telling us three weeks ago the Raiders told him he came here for vacation for little while and Raiders called him up and said they might need him to come up. So they told him to stay put since Hawaiian Airlines is a sponsor for the Raiders, and stay put in Hawaii and if they need him they’ll fly him up,” friend Jack Buder told KHON.”
Dude must be cursed – this would given him a huge edge for next season. His injuries don’t look like anything that would keep him from playing ball. Hope we give him a chance in ‘11. I like the kid.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
We should be making noise about getting a first string coach.
Gruden or Harbaugh
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Sometimes it’s all about timing man. Colt Brennan has some bad timing for sure. Missing out on a Raider opportunity but almost died on top of that too.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
hire chris peterson from boise!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Cables a tool huh? 7 FKN years and not a single coach has been able to motivate the players like he has.Is he the best available?.. No, but how about some continuity.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:22 pm
We need to have 6 QBs in camp this offseason. Campbell and 5 other dudes not on the roster.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Continuity?
Sure.
We keep Cable, we keep losing. Now that’s some continuity for yo azz.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Tell me then, who? Also tell me that you werent as excited and optimistic as all of us when we beat K.C and tied for first place? Guess who the coach was.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
olinesux Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
hire chris peterson from boise
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We are on the same page!!! I hope Al is talking to him as we speak.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Bill Parcells said “If I’m doing the cooking at least let me buy the grocerys”. What do you think that means??
Perhaps every coach we hire has to work within the confines of the G.M/OWNER, which makes it difficult and is the direct reason why we cannot attract a high caliber coach.
Cable is making the best out of what he is working with and has a decent repoire with Davis whaich is all we can ask for.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
if they hire chris peterson and draft colin kap from nevada it would be awesome.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:33 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
I never seen so much concern for a 3rd string Qb with 5 weeks left in the season. Always something to whine about…
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This is a discussion board, just mentioned how the 3rd string QB could be someone who has we might have interest in beyond these last 5 games. Someone young with potential. I’m sure if not for the accident Brennan would be here instead of O’Sullyvan.
Funny how if its something that you’re not interested in it’s “whining”. Do you think because you post on here 24/7 you have some sort of admin powers to determine what can and cannot be discussed? STFU
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:33 pm
This was posted earlier by someone in the morning crew:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/479805-oakland-raiders-need-to-bring-back-chucky
This article makes major sense about our problems and how to fix them.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Chef
yeah we beat KC and go to bye week and gain first place during the bye week. And then………………..
I’ll let you complete the rest of that sentence.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
I give it 2 weeks before the fans start screaming for Kyle Boller.
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I give it one quarter before the fans start screaming for Bruce Gradkowski.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Wrong. This is not an end to the “qb controversy.”
I said it on Sunday when Gradkz went out, he will not play again this season or ever for the Raiders. It was just of matter of time, and of course he sealed his faith when he said he was coming back this season. As if Gradkz somehow was better, with a bum shoulder, than Campbell healthy. Really, the next Plunkett couldn’t beat him out. Are they serious?
That’s a scary proposition, if indeed Cable and Gradkz believe this, then it will be easy to understand that the “qb controversy” continues and should get worst because it means the Raiders with Campbell and Boller have nothing at that position, both are not trusted, and a new one will be needed.
So, yes Al Davis called this shot no doubt. His next one should be firing Cable, as soon as next Monday. Give HueJac a chance to get his feet wet, and see what he’s all about. And if there’s a lockout, he would have a good feel for the players under his helm, and see if he can convince Davis on bringing in a qb that suits his game.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:42 pm
r8rwill Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
hilarious, a whole new conspiracy. this time hue and cable wanted bruce, al wouldn’t have it so he…..what? hurt bruces shoulder?!!
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Is Bruce’s shoulder really that hurt? That’s the question.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
bg22958 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Good to see things are now operating more like a normal NFL team again.
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Yeh. We just put our best QB on the I.R. when he’d be ready within 2 games. That’s definitely like a normal NFL team.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 pm
So Cable is a good Coach because he kisses Al’s butt? It has been stated on here many times and proven on the field many times that if you go against the grain with Al it better work and you better win.
So this childhood fan of the Raiders is our current head coach and he will do and say whatever Al wants in order to keep his job. Nevermind winning.
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:45 pm
It’s time for some ice cream!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
If grads is our “best” qb we are in serious trouble. he may have the weakest arm in the NFL…
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Hire Mike Martz!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Can I use the side of your head its obviously made of stone making a comment like this.
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# No Mas Diamante Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
JT to DHB TD!!!! chisel it in stone
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It was a joke Mista. You remember humor don’t you?Or perhaps you don’t… You seem like the angry type…
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:53 pm
seriously though… HIRE MIKE MARTZ!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
JACQB
Just another crappy quaterback
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
JAC-QB maybe?
and it’s Quarterback!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Is Bruce’s shoulder really that hurt? That’s the question.
and the plot thickens, now we may have reason to beleive bruise’s shoulder isn’t hurt after all,,,,rolmfao
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Kell,
This dude shows up out of nowhere and touts Cable. Thats the kind of stuff that makes you go outside and jog around the block to keep from doing something you might regret.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
# r8rwill Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Is Bruce’s shoulder really that hurt? That’s the question.
and the plot thickens, now we may have reason to beleive bruise’s shoulder isn’t hurt after all,,,,rolmfao
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I didn’t say it wasn’t hurt at all. I said the Raiders are exaggerating the severity of it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Marv Albert just said it’s a “chilly, dank day” in the bay area. LOL.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
117.olinesux Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
if they hire chris peterson and draft colin kap from nevada it would be awesome.
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Well, either your from around a WAC team or you just know quality football. A high five and a pitcher of beer to olinesux.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
USC’s Carroll tells us what we already know about Al Davis
October 01, 2008|By JEFF MILLER
Pete Carroll says Al Davis appeared “not informed” and “out of touch” this week while discussing the firing of his head coach, Lane Kiffin.
http://articles.ocregister.com/2008-10-01/sports/24741422_1_lane-kiffin-davis-comments-usc-s-carroll
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
i cant believe nobody is talking about the FACT that we have found a true #1 wide receiver. JACOBY FORD. BEAST!! this guy will be the biggest deep threat in the nfl and a top 10 WR. no doubt in my mind. we’ve been trying to find a playmaker at the WR spot for YEARS! well here he is. this has been a great year for the raiders. we know whos who now. we have a great young RB,TE, LT and WR. all look like stars. things are looking up. gotta find a QB somehow. thats all thats missing from this team winning 11-12 games.
Defense is solid. great pass rush, improved run defense IMO. looking up. just need a REAL QUARTERBACK and this team goes deep in the playoffs.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
fck him, I’ve got my own problems…..If my wife sat on my face for 45 minutes I’d sufficate.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:44 pm
jacoby ford: 4.28 40 and is a PLAYMAKER> classic AL Davis pick. just in case fakemaddenraider didnt know.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
1) We will see how great of a QB Gradkowki is when he has a chance to get picked up by any NFL team next year.
2) Colt Bennan can’t throw with velocity past 10 yards. He is meant to be a backup in a west coast offense and I’m pretty sure that ship sailed with Gannon. Don’t remember Al ever talking about needing to dink and dunk the ball more. And if he is such a great prospect why was he sitting at home?
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
raiders BETTER find a real QB. it’ll be a shame if they cant. has to be somebody to get.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Thanks MR!!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
USC’s Carroll tells us what we already know about Al Davis
October 01, 2008|By JEFF MILLER
Pete Carroll says Al Davis appeared “not informed” and “out of touch” this week while discussing the firing of his head coach, Lane Kiffin.
http://articles.ocregister.com/2008-10-01/sports/24741422_1_lane-kiffin-davis-comments-usc-s-carroll
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Think the Admin. for the University of Tennessee would agree?
If this was the case then Kiffin should have won his arbitration case easily, but he didn’t.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
136.KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Slvr N Blk Chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Tell me then, who? Also tell me that you werent as excited and optimistic as all of us
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Really, I don’t remember your handle?
137.504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Kell,
This dude shows up out of nowhere and touts Cable. Thats the kind of stuff that makes you go outside and jog around the block to keep from doing something you might regret.
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Out of nowhere huh
Lets see Kell is an out of work real estate broker that hates white people, that has his wife do the money making, 508 just changed his handle or just started posting under taht name recently.
hate to break it to you boys but i’ve been on here for a while but choose not to post that often. Do me a favor jog around the block and give me a name of a high caliber coach that can come here and deal with this sht.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I’m not Cable nut hugging, just dealing with it like everyone else!
Dont see a grade a coach coming here to cut up film to appease the owner like Gruden did, nor do I see him doing it again.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm
# bg22958 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
2) Colt Bennan can’t throw with velocity past 10 yards. He is meant to be a backup in a west coast offense and I’m pretty sure that ship sailed with Gannon. Don’t remember Al ever talking about needing to dink and dunk the ball more. And if he is such a great prospect why was he sitting at home?
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Bg22958 – Dink & Dunk” worked for us when we were winning Division titles year after year. It wasn’t the vertical game Al prefers, but it was what was needed to win with what we had and Gruden was allowed to run it because it worked.
Cable/HuJack/Campbell better learn how to run a version of it by Sunday or we’re in deep trouble. Chargers D will definitely stack the box and blitz like crazy. Campbell can’t put the team on his back and win a air war with Rivers…So the dink & dunk is the only way to make them adjust and spread to stop the short passing game – that might open up our running game for DMAC/Bush. Need to make them pay when they blitz. Problem is asking Campbell to recognize the blitz and throw quick-slants,outs, and screens is like entering a sloth in a ping-pong tournament.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:09 pm
137.504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Kell,
This dude shows up out of nowhere and touts Cable. Thats the kind of stuff that makes you go outside and jog around the block to keep from doing something you might regret.
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Like what?? Tell your little sister get off of facebook so you can scream hallow threats to someone on a blog??
Dumbass!!
Or break something that you own and will eventually have to replace.
Lol…. Yeah you should run the Raider organization..
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
damn Monta Ellis looks so smooth.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
[...] or two weeks before he could even throw again or practice,” the coach said Thursday, per the Oakland Tribune. “You look at what’s left on our schedule. It’s just not enough time. I think it was a good [...]
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
AD is going to give Cable 3 shoes for Christmas, two on his feet and one in his AZZZZZZ
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Chef,
You gotta have some kind of connection to Cable otherwise you wouldn’t be suggesting that we stay the course.
You might be the only dude in here talking about We should keep Cable.
Tell us why we should keep Cable. I’ll read your stupid answer tomorrow.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
“Cable conceded that fullback Marcel Reece has gone off the radar in recent weeks but he doesn’t expect it to stay that way.”
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Not off my radar. His fumble after a Wild Cat handoff was a large part of our collapse against Miami.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Richochef, I agree with you, about Cable.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I don’t like how every time they go to a commercial on TNT they put the name San Francisco on the screen. For a nationally televised game it gives the impression to the country that the Warriors play in San Francisco and are an SF team.
That’s disrespectful to the city of Oakland and all of the East Bay fans.
Fact is…the Dubs only played in SF for 9 years. They have played in Oakland since 1971 for almost 40 years!
Yet the city of Oakland gets little credit for the Warriors.smh
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Chef,
You gotta have some kind of connection to Cable otherwise you wouldn’t be suggesting that we stay the course.
You might be the only dude in here talking about We should keep Cable.
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I think Chef is just saying he doesn’t want to dump Cable unless we have a proven good coach lined up. I’m not a big fan of Cable either, but I’m not in favor of firing him and then starting a search for another re-tread. We’d have to have an A-list coach ready to step in and those are hard to find( at least ones who want to work for Al).
At the beginning of the season I liked the idea Hue Jackson as our next HC…but I think I was mainly excited by the positive articles about how animated he was during camp and his good reputation. But now that I’ve seen his play calling and game-planning I’m not at all impressed. He basically had nothing planned to counter Pittsburgh and Miami from stopping our run game. That’s inexcusable. His play calling leaves too many 2nd and 10 situations. Too many gimmicks.
So if it’s a choice between Cable and HuJack or Cable and a retread hack like Green or Gilbride I say stay the course. He did seem to have the players believing…and during that 3 game streak most of us were behind him too.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
I’d have no problem with cable staying. It’s not easy workign with Al Davis. I dont want another fight with AD again.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Good evenin NATION!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Chef,
You gotta have some kind of connection to Cable otherwise you wouldn’t be suggesting that we stay the course.
You might be the only dude in here talking about We should keep Cable.
Tell us why we should keep Cable. I’ll read your stupid answer tomorrow
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Good Morning 504
Continuity dumbass.
Face it we are not getting Cowher or Gruden so put the pipe down.
Cable gets along with Davis and dont try to convince me that you didnt think Cable was behind this years draft.
The team buys into what he is preaching and its been awhile since we had any relevence this deep in the season.
Not bad for a guy that is undermined buy the principle owner and GM.
Not to mention a guy that has to choose between J.Campbell or B. Gradkowski.
The team is behind him like no other Raider team in the last 7 years has been behind their coach.
Given the curcumstances I say stay the course, show the team that.. yes you have to practice hard…yes you have to give your all..because this is your coach and he’s not going anywhere but you may be.
Continuity Dumbass!!
Have a good day..
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
123.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 pm
bg22958 Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Good to see things are now operating more like a normal NFL team again.
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Yeh. We just put our best QB on the I.R. when he’d be ready within 2 games. That’s definitely like a normal NFL team.
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2 games? BG just got his SECOND 3rd degree shoulder seperation, and you think he’d be back in two weeks? Well Dr. MR I have to disagree. Really stupid!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Treatment for Shoulder Separation
The treatment for first- and second-degree shoulder sprains is rest. The patient will have to put the shoulder in a sling for one to three weeks, depending on the severity of the injury. Also, in addition to resting the shoulder, the patient must ice it for 20 to 30 minutes a few times a day in the beginning to ease the pain.
These are particularly frustrating injuries because they can take six to eight weeks to heal. One may not be able to raise the arm laterally beyond 90 degrees until the injury has healed.
For a third-degree shoulder sprain, surgical repair of the ligaments is necessary to fix the joint. Up to six weeks of recovery from surgery is necessary before a restrengthening program can be started. This program consists of range-of-motion and strengthening exercises similar to those used to rehabilitate a shoulder impingement. Braces and long-term slings are not recommended.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
For a third-degree shoulder sprain, surgical repair of the ligaments is necessary to fix the joint. Up to six weeks of recovery from surgery is necessary before a restrengthening program can be started. This program consists of range-of-motion and strengthening exercises similar to those used to rehabilitate a shoulder impingement. Braces and long-term slings are not recommended.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I don’t like how every time they go to a commercial on TNT they put the name San Francisco on the screen. For a nationally televised game it gives the impression to the country that the Warriors play in San Francisco and are an SF team.
That’s disrespectful to the city of Oakland and all of the East Bay fans.
Fact is…the Dubs only played in SF for 9 years. They have played in Oakland since 1971 for almost 40 years!
Yet the city of Oakland gets little credit for the Warriors.smh
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At least they gave the town’s weather: “chilly and dank”.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
119.504 Raider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Chef
yeah we beat KC and go to bye week and gain first place during the bye week. And then………………..
I’ll let you complete the rest of that sentence.
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By the way Cable called the play’s in last years game against Pittsburhg, not Jackson!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGQIxy9B44k
McFaddens only highlight over the last 2 weeks, hope he bounces back vs the Chargers. Go to around 0:08
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
2 games? BG just got his SECOND 3rd degree shoulder seperation, and you think he’d be back in two weeks? Well Dr. MR I have to disagree. Really stupid!
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a) I don’t trust a thing the Raiders say, ever, about anything, unless they show me solid, physical proof of it, which brings me to…
b) I haven’t seen the x ray
c) Grads said himself it doesn’t even hurt that bad, and that he thinks he could be ready in a couple of weeks. Granted, that’s the warrior’s nature. But he’s far more credible with me than the Raiders are.
It’s interesting that someone who takes what the Raiders say at face value is calling me stupid. It would be like you calling someone a wannabe gangster, while we’re at it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
2 games? BG just got his SECOND 3rd degree shoulder seperation, and you think he’d be back in two weeks? Well Dr. MR I have to disagree. Really stupid!
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a) I don’t trust a thing the Raiders say, ever, about anything, unless they show me solid, physical proof of it, which brings me to…
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Al Davis is BROOKLYN BORN.
Never let anyone outside of the family know what your thinking Sonny!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Al Davis had an upper middle class upbringing. He’s about as much of a mobster as Vanilla Ice is a Crip.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
[...] or two weeks before he could even throw again or practice,” the coach said Thursday, per the Oakland Tribune. “You look at what’s left on our schedule. It’s just not enough time. I think it was a good [...]
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Yet he was playing stick ball with the poor Torre boys in Central Park.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I don’t like how every time they go to a commercial on TNT they put the name San Francisco on the screen. For a nationally televised game it gives the impression to the country that the Warriors play in San Francisco and are an SF team.
That’s disrespectful to the city of Oakland and all of the East Bay fans.
Fact is…the Dubs only played in SF for 9 years. They have played in Oakland since 1971 for almost 40 years!
Yet the city of Oakland gets little credit for the Warriors.smh
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Bravo.
not that hard to figure out.
one city is a top tourist spot.
one city is a crime capital.
which would you rather be associated with?
there is a reason they are not the Oakland Warriors
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Its a New York thing, you wouldnt understand.
Upbringing or not, your taught to keep your mouth shut.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Tank Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
one city is a top tourist spot.
one city is a crime capital.
which would you rather be associated with?
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The crime capital.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:48 pm
As long as there is more than one qb on the roster, and one of those qb’s is campbell?
qb controversy.
simply means when the starter totally stinks, some will want anyone but him.
see jamarcus russell
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:49 pm
# slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Its a New York thing, you wouldnt understand.
Upbringing or not, your taught to keep your mouth shut.
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I think you watch too many movies.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:52 pm
# slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Its a New York thing, you wouldnt understand.
Upbringing or not, your taught to keep your mouth shut.
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a new york thing?
you’ve been watching too many movies.
what? you cross the bridge from jersey to ny, and all of a sudden you are hip to the “ny thing”?
it’s called “it’s a growing up” thing
kinda happens everywhere, for many. for some, doesn’t matter where you are, ain’t gonna happen
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:53 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Tank Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
one city is a top tourist spot.
one city is a crime capital.
which would you rather be associated with?
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The crime capital.
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in other words, you don’t live in Oakland.
wasn’t that hard to figure out
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:55 pm
175.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:49 pm
# slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Its a New York thing, you wouldnt understand.
Upbringing or not, your taught to keep your mouth shut.
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I think you watch too many movies.
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Lol, Perhaps, but Al has always been like this and its a product of his upbringing, it’s not like he was this wealth of information then all of a sudden he decided to play things so close to the vest.
Just ask Pete Rozelle.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Tank, you’re right, I don’t live in Oakland. But I know a lot of people who are from Oakland and whom:
a) are NOT criminals
and
b) are proud as hell of Oakland
One way I can tell that someone has never been to Oakland is when they assume that police are scraping bodies off of the street all day long. It’s not even close to being that bad. It’s a very populated city, and most people in Oakland are harmless, unless of course you deserve to get knocked out.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Lol, Perhaps, but Al has always been like this and its a product of his upbringing,
……….
No, it’s not. It’s not any more a part of Al’s upbringing than someone who just watches the Godfather and decides being a mobster is cool.
Al did not grow up with or around gangsters and wiseguys. He had a very sheltered upbringing. No doubt as he got older he’s become a whore for the mob of sorts, which is really nothing to be proud of. He’s not part of the “family”, even by extension. He’s a tool for them. And his whole wannabe gangster persona is self manufactured. He made it all up.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Dont you think maybe your geting a little steryotipical, Never have I suggested that he became this way by being around gangsters.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 pm
The N.Y mindset is there and if you cant distinguish it then you know nothing about N.Y
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:07 pm
# slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Dont you think maybe your geting a little steryotipical, Never have I suggested that he became this way by being around gangsters.
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Uh, that’s exactly what you’re suggesting, actually. You’re trying to make Al Davis seem gangster like. He’s not. He’s a wannabe. End of story. Nice try.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I honestly think that regardless of all the boundries he conquered and the cavelier approach he took that he is out of touch with today’s N.F.L.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 pm
slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 pm
The N.Y mindset is there
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No, it’s not. Al was actually brought up with the New England mindset, which is all the upper class New York mind set is, anyway.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 pm
man the logic of some of you who blame JC’s ineffectiveness in the fans for booing JC at games? that is just off the mark. thousands of fans see a crap product but those of you who like JC just see that as an excuse….like now he can cut it loose and play without having to look over his shoulder, right. i am at least glad now he doesn’t have an excuse.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Slvr N Blk Chef, who were you before Troll?
Too embarrassed to say?
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Al’s fake NY accent and persona is there, I’ll give you that much, chef.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
So basically I say N.Y and you think gangster?
I make a Sonny reference and now Al is a gangster.
Really?
Your smarter than that.
Folks from N.Y are just that way without “gangster influence”
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I was going to say he was richochet, Kell, but let’s be honest, love or hate rich, is he stupid enough to fall for Davis’s wannabe mobster persona? I never got that from him.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Chef, there’s not one person in here who doesn’t know you were trying to make Al sound all hard. It’s over. Good effort, even went into detail a little with his upbringing, but it’s still a fail. Just so happens some of us know Al’s background more than his average fan.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 pm
No, it’s not. Al was actually brought up with the New England mindset, which is all the upper class New York mind set is, anyway.
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Damn the trip to N.Y from N.E with the stick and the ball must have been exhausting
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Tank Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:48 pm
As long as there is more than one qb on the roster, and one of those qb’s is campbell?
qb controversy.
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Brother, you NAILED it!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I blame Soulglo!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Chef, how long are you going to do this to yourself?
Now you’re just shooting 3 pointers, like the Cavs in the entire second half tonight. But like tonights game, this was over from the start, buddy.
You tried to make Al look like a gangster.
I clearly pointed out just how he isn’t. He’s not even close. He’s not tough. He’s not streetwise. He’s not even “New York”, at least not the kind of New York you’re talking about. Al grew up sheltered. Whatever tough, NY persona that man projects is something he entirely manufactured in his adult life. OK? Calibrate yourself around that inconvenient truth, or continue to embarrass yourself by trying to convince both yourself and others differently.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 pm
You guys are something else, Finally I start to post and you think I’m someone else.
I normally read your comments and find it ammusing when you call each other out as being a troll, for example Kell..You hated oakglenn, Madden Raider… hmmmmmm, your either M.R of Kiffin fame or I cant remember who everyone hated here.
Been here for a while boys and felt a little froggy.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Sounds like the “Wannabe” to me.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Al (gangster) Davis should be on Mount Freaking Rushmore!!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 pm
These Trolls get “embarrassed out of one handle, then switch to another. Pathetic.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at ed.11:22 pm
Sounds like the “Wannabe” to me.
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What the he’ll does that mean?
You sound retard
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Chef, how long are you going to do this to yourself?
Now you’re just shooting 3 pointers, like the Cavs in the entire second half tonight. But like tonights game, this was over from the start, buddy.
You tried to make Al look like a gangster.
I clearly pointed out just how he isn’t. He’s not even close. He’s not tough. He’s not streetwise.
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Did I miss something, When did you prove me wrong?
Because you said he was sheltered in New England.
I’m not agenda driven and could care less about it.
The whole gangster thing you brought into it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
# Drexl Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Al (gangster) Davis should be on Mount Freaking Rushmore!!!!
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Cleaning trash…
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:27 pm
KK calling out trolls.
Pure comedy tonight!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
199.KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:25 pm
These Trolls get “embarrassed out of one handle, then switch to another. Pathetic.
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Really Kell??????
Perhaps its an open blog and the only thing pathetic is the fact that your monitering it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Chef, wow. You know what? If you want to believe that Al Davis is a NY, streetwise mobster, be my guest. It’s like letting a kid have an imaginary friend. What can you do? You don’t want to be mean. You just kind of let him have his imaginary friend, and keep an eye on him. Perhaps take some notes, for their shrink. That’s basically how I’m approaching your little fantasy about Al being a street wise New Yorker.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
It cracks me up that we have guys in here that think they know so much about what a guy can and cannot do. Truth is you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.
As far as Campbell recognizing blitzes and getting the ball out. I think he does a goood job of it and has done a good job of it. If the guys he’s throwing to recognize those same blitzes the ball will be there.
If you cannot watch ilm and see that he knows that then stop watching. Because it wont do you any good if you didn’t notice the job he did vs the Steelers and SD last time they played. It’s a matter of guys making plays for him that makes the difference. Against the Steelers we dropped a lot of passes and ran bad routes. Now this time if we make those plays Campbell will loook a lot better. Also he can’t block for the running game the Oline must do that. If we can run the football and make plays we can win………it’s as simple as that.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Kind of funny, dont Kell and M.R usually go at it?
All of a sudden I dont know who’s dck to knock out of who’s mouth.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Chef, man up, too embarrassed?
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:30 pm
# Tank Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Bravo.
not that hard to figure out.
one city is a top tourist spot.
one city is a crime capital.
which would you rather be associated with?
there is a reason they are not the Oakland Warriors
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Tank…
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. With your mouse and keyboard you have perfectly assumed this description.
Every major city in America has crime you dimwit. New York, Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, Houston, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Miami, Los Angeles…need I go on for you??
Yet all of these teams have professional sports franchises. Crime has nothing to do with the success and marketability of a professional sports team.
Have you ever wondered why the city of Oakland has more sports world championships than the city of San Francisco?
Now you can go and crawl back under your rock.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
# Drexl Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Al (gangster) Davis should be on Mount Freaking Rushmore!!!!
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Cleaning trash…
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More like jackhammering that worthless Washington dudes face clean off. Then carve Al’s face into the bare rock face the Washington removal would create.
You don’t know me very well.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Chef, wow. You know what? If you want to believe that Al Davis is a NY, streetwise mobster, be my guest.
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You said gangster not me.
You need a launch point so your not pasting the whole statement and trying to curcumvent your own hostilities on me.
1 more time dum dum, you said gangster not me.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Priest, no worries.
I’m supporting Campbell.
But if Campbell sucks on Sunday, just know, a lot of us are going to have no more compassion for him than you had for Gradkowski. Just know what to expect.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Slvr N Blk Chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Lets see Kell is an out of work real estate broker that hates white people, that has his wife do the money making,
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Chef, you talk about me like you know me, who are you?
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
It spears that you did bring gangster into this argument RMR. Damn, copy and paste busted again.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Slvr N Blk Chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Lets see Kell is an out of work real estate broker that hates white people, that has his wife do the money making,
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Chef, you talk about me like you know me, who are you?
Have I had the pleasure of speaking with you before?
Man Up.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Slvr N Blk Chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Lets see Kell is an out of work real estate broker that hates white people, that has his wife do the money making,
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Chef, you talk about me like you know me, who are you?
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5 minutes on this blog and a down syndrom 8 year old can figure that much out.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
I’d rather be in Oakland any time, any day, with its crime rate, than in San Francisco, with it’s touristy attractions. I can’t stand the yuppie culture in Frisco. Most obnoxious people in the country, and of course I speak of the yuppies and gentrification transplants, not the true SF natives, or even the gay community, who fight for basic services in the city probably more than any group. SF’s transplants and corporate snobs have ruined the place, took the real heart right out of the city. You have to go to the southern parts of the city to really see the blue collar heart it once had. From the Mission into Daly City. Some of the best bars in the country are still along Mission, from 20th street on out, too.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
[...] was a little sore yesterday, nothing to even talk about,” said Cable, per the Oakland Tribune. “All of a sudden today it was sore. So we’re investigating [...]
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:42 pm
If Campbell sucks again, we’ll be calling for Boller. It could come as early has the 2nd half on Sunday.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:43 pm
I told you Kell, been here or a long time but choose not to post, You want to call me a troll or handle changer but have you ever thought that maybe Jerry has the most extensive coverage of Raiders news and perhaps that maybe….just maybe… outside of your isolated little world of ibabuzz blogging, some fans might just be paying attention to what other Raider fans think of the goings on with the team?
Think broader…
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
KK calling em out, You go tiger!
Man up!
Now!
You kNow it!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Frisco. Most obnoxious people in the country, and of course I speak of the yuppies and gentrification transplants, even the gay community, who fight for basic services in the city probably more than any group.
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See I can do it too!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
If Campbell sucks again, I’ll be calling for Campbell’s head, with no less compassion than what Priest, Mistic, and LB have been had when calling for Bruce’s. Campbell had better have a good game. Or his avid supporters who were noted Gradkowski bashers are going to have a tough time in here Sunday. As a matter of fact, they’d be better off not even showing up, or using different names to disguise themselves. Because it’s going to be sheer hell for them.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Chef,
Too chickenst eh? Just what I figured.
Gnite, pootbutt.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Frisco. Most obnoxious people in the country, and of course I speak of the yuppies and gentrification transplants, even the gay community, who fight for basic services in the city probably more than any group.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 pm
224.KoolKell Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Chef,
Too chickenst eh? Just what I figured.
Gnite, pootbutt.
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I dont know what your asking me for!
chickenst??
Goodnight I guess, the classifieds are still in the back of the paper!
Good Luck!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:52 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
I’d rather be in Oakland any time, any day, with its crime rate, than in San Francisco, with it’s touristy attractions. I can’t stand the yuppie culture in Frisco. Most obnoxious people in the country, and of course I speak of the yuppies and gentrification transplants, not the true SF natives, or even the gay community, who fight for basic services in the city probably more than any group. SF’s transplants and corporate snobs have ruined the place, took the real heart right out of the city. You have to go to the southern parts of the city to really see the blue collar heart it once had. From the Mission into Daly City. Some of the best bars in the country are still along Mission, from 20th street on out, too.
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I have lived in Berkeley, Oakland, and now SF. You sound ridiculus with your limited knowledge of living in SF.
Again the comedy tonight is hilarious!
Please keep it up.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Drexl,
Atleast you didnt say anyting about N.Y, or else anybody you talked about would be charaterized as Gangsters.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Half you suckas wouldn’t know what to look for if it slapped ya’ so call for whoever you want. You guys jump from one lame to another quicker than I can blink. So who gives a damn who you call for, you don’t make decisions around here wether you realize it or not. It’s the freakin blind leading the blind.
Just shut up and watch the games if we win we win if we lose we lose. This season is all about getting things headed in the right direction. Campbell is not a savior he’s here to do his part that’s all if he gets the offense moving and give players opportunities to make plays that is all he can do. Eithe they make them or they don’t. Everyone knows Campbell isn’t a great QB s stop expecting him to be. But if he can run the offense and put up points that’s all that’s required.
I’m not jocking JC the way you guys jocked Bruce because I know better I see what he is, he has a long wya to go but he deserves a chance to fail and work his way out of it. Like evevry other starting QB in this league I don’t expect 4 TD passes and 400 yards I expect competence that’s all and the rst should come as they grow together. Stop looking for miracles and you wont be disappointed………….period
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Just calling it as I see it, Drexl. You don’t have to have had an actual residence in a place to know what it’s like. I’ve had several friends all over the bay area, and have been there enough times to know what just about every part of the bay is like.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Kelllllllll,
Ask me what you like, dont go to bed yet, Its not like you have work in the morning.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 pm
If Championships are what matters…
Then SF is a second class sports city compared to Oakland.
Oakland 8 World Championships between Football, Baseball, and Basketball.
SF 6 World Championships.
If you can do the math then count it.
Accept it, Respect it, and Deal with it. When it comes to sports, SF is second best!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 pm
priesttj Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Half you suckas wouldn’t know what to look for if it slapped ya’ so call for whoever you want.
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I’ll be looking for the score and Campbell’s stats, and they’d better be good. If they’re not, there’s not an explanation or analysis in the world that’s going to save you face. You’re going to get clowned.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Wow, I need to see medical services, that wall of text TJ posted blinded me!
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
229.priesttj Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Half you suckas wouldn’t know what to look for if it slapped ya’ so call for whoever you want. You guys jump from one lame to another quicker than I can blink. So who gives a damn who you call for, you don’t make decisions around here wether you realize it or not. It’s the freakin blind leading the blind.
Just shut up and watch the games if we win we win if we lose we lose. This season is all about getting things headed in the right direction. Campbell is not a savior he’s here to do his part that’s all if he gets the offense moving and give players opportunities to make plays that is all he can do. Eithe they make them or they don’t. Everyone knows Campbell isn’t a great QB s stop expecting him to be. But if he can run the offense and put up points that’s all that’s required.
I’m not jocking JC the way you guys jocked Bruce because I know better I see what he is, he has a long wya to go but he deserves a chance to fail and work his way out of it. Like evevry other starting QB in this league I don’t expect 4 TD passes and 400 yards I expect competence that’s all and the rst should come as they grow together. Stop looking for miracles and you wont be disappointed………….period
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Post of the night!!!
My thoughts exactly
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Tank, you’re right, I don’t live in Oakland. But I know a lot of people who are from Oakland and whom:
a) are NOT criminals
and
b) are proud as hell of Oakland
One way I can tell that someone has never been to Oakland is when they assume that police are scraping bodies off of the street all day long. It’s not even close to being that bad. It’s a very populated city, and most people in Oakland are harmless, unless of course you deserve to get knocked out.
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Point was some doofus commented on how upset he was that the Warriors weren’t touting Oakland.
How the heck did you get scrapping bodies out of that?
try and stay on track
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
RMR, I find SF is what you make it. The biggest difference is parking sucks worse, means more taxi rides.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Don’t worry, TJ. I’m not going to be any tougher on Campbell Sunday than you’ve been on Gradkowski. The same patience you had for Gradkowski is the same patience I’ll have for Campbell. That’s fair. Isn’t it?
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 am
229.priesttj Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Half you suckas wouldn’t know what to look for if it slapped ya’ so call for whoever you want. You guys jump from one lame to another quicker than I can blink. So who gives a damn who you call for, you don’t make decisions around here wether you realize it or not. It’s the freakin blind leading the blind.
Just shut up and watch the games if we win we win if we lose we lose. This season is all about getting things headed in the right direction. Campbell is not a savior he’s here to do his part that’s all if he gets the offense moving and give players opportunities to make plays that is all he can do. Eithe they make them or they don’t. Everyone knows Campbell isn’t a great QB s stop expecting him to be. But if he can run the offense and put up points that’s all that’s required.
I’m not jocking JC the way you guys jocked Bruce because I know better I see what he is, he has a long wya to go but he deserves a chance to fail and work his way out of it. Like evevry other starting QB in this league I don’t expect 4 TD passes and 400 yards I expect competence that’s all and the rst should come as they grow together. Stop looking for miracles and you wont be disappointed………….period
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And NO ONE JOCKED BRUCE THE WAY YOU JOCKED RUSSELL. So get off your hypocrit high horse.
All you had were nonstop insults for bruce when your boy got benched. nonstop.
here you are saying shut up, watch game, if we win we win, lose we lose.
you couldn’t shut up for one second after bruce went in. insulted everyone nonstop after team lost.
so again, get off your hypocrit high horse.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Just calling it as I see it, Drexl. You don’t have to have had an actual residence in a place to know what it’s like. I’ve had several friends all over the bay area,
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Sooooo, your a fkn hypocrite for calling Al a gangster?
Because your “friends said so”
Sorry but you do actually have to live in a residence to understand the nuances.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
Drexl Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
RMR, I find SF is what you make it.
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That is not a typical description of a so called great city that’s a tourist attraction.
Any city could be what you make of it. You can make the best of Des Moines, Iowa, if you wanted to. That’s not the point. A great city is a great city. You don’t have to rationalize. I don’t have to make the best of NYC, Chicago, or Amsterdamn. They’re just great cities.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
PriestTJ, the real comedy here is a guy who is proven wrong on here weekly basis attempting to clown those of us who actually know football.
* You have been WRONG on Jamarcus Russell
* You have been WRONG on Jason Campbell
* You have been WRONG on DHB
* And you have been WRONG on McFadden
Why would anyone take anything you have to say reriously? Have you no shame? People continually go to the archives and prove you wrong with your own asinine statements. But you still come on here and attempt to convince us you are some football guru, like nothing ever happened. You really suffer from delusions.
Oh by the way, that bastion of limitless talent, Jamarcus Russell, used that lame excuse of the “guys just didn’t make plays for me” after he was yanked.
At first I thought you might just be misunderstood, now I can only conclude you’re just and ignorant racist a$$hole. Football is a complex sport, golf is much simpler. Its more your speed. Or perhaps you should try to get into Nascar…just watch the cars go round n round.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 am
# slvr n blk chef Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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Post of the night!!!
My thoughts exactly
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so, according to you, thinking doesn’t come naturally?
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 am
Some of the best bars in the country are still along Mission, from 20th street on out, too.
RMR, you haven’t been to a straight bar in years, you have wasting your time being the smartest G#Y person on the blog. Which is usually the case, the lifestyle consumes your being, degrade all of us degenerate fans and empower your insecurities. Keep responding to every docile response and feed off it for empowerment. Not being judgemental but it’s getting ridiculous and overbearing.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 am
Nice right cross Tank!
TJ has a short memory. Can’t remember what he said yesterday, let alone last year!
You kNow it!
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 am
I’m going to get clowned………..so what clown on dumbell who cares. It’s your own foolish thinking that’s got you frustrated. I’m going to get clowned…………..and then what?
The difference is I know who JC is and he aint no mirage I see what he is. I’m not stupid enough to expect greatness from someone who’s never demonstrated it.
In Russell’s case I saw greatness and it was abundant he threw it away but he hass it I’ve never seen that from JC. I call it like I see it. Bruce is a backupand you guys tried to make him a star and it blew up in your face. And you can’t handle it. So suck it up and move on.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 am
Do you have a better option Tank,
Do you really hope we win the division?
Please enlighten me on your logical depths of all things Q.B
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 am
310 Raider-scum Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 am
degrade all of us degenerate fans
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You got that right. Well, at least the obnoxious fans who attack anyone who criticizes the organization. But you’re wrong about me being insecure or gay. I’ve never been to a gay bar, in SF or otherwise.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 am
Priest, just understand, the patience you had for Gradkowski is the patience myself and a lot of other commenters here are going to have for Campbell. That’s pretty fair. Is it not?
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 am
# ArmChair GM Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 pm
If Championships are what matters…
Then SF is a second class sports city compared to Oakland.
Oakland 8 World Championships between Football, Baseball, and Basketball.
SF 6 World Championships.
If you can do the math then count it.
Accept it, Respect it, and Deal with it. When it comes to sports, SF is second best!
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LMAO
It appears you live in Oakland with that silly list above.
I can’t stand frisco anymore than the next guy, but SF just won the world series, dude.
how many sb’s have frisco won since the last time we won one?
hey, crying about the warriors is one thing. you should have left it at that
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:09 am
priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 am
In Russell’s case I saw greatness and it was abundant ======================================================
Now you lost me
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:10 am
RMR, you want to swing your purse my way?
“is what you make it” would apply to every city I have ever lived in. Are you seriously trying to pick a fight over how atractive SF is as a desired tourist destination?
You will lose. Go back to arguing the merits of AD’s gangster image.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:12 am
SF is extremely overrated, Drexl. I’m sorry if that hurts your ego, but it’s true. I think Oakland is a better city. Better people. I like the East Bay more than the peninsula overall.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
# slvr n blk chef Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 am
Do you have a better option Tank,
Do you really hope we win the division?
Please enlighten me on your logical depths of all things Q.B
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TJ is a hypocrit was my point.
He insulted grad nonstop when russell was benched. Insulted cable for putting him in nonstop. ran the race card. then he jumped on jc’s wagon, again insulting grad. stated how much better jc was.
now that jc has some 7.5 qb ratings, tj now says everyone should just let jc develop. and to enjoy him.
and if you question him? he runs the race card crap
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
No pass zone
And tell us what you’ve been right about, dumbell you can’t handle what I bring to the table I’ve done it you talk about it. I wasn’t wrong about JC at all I’ve never made any predictions about him. I’m not wrong about DHB his career isn’t over and I’m right on about DMC he’s a great weapon. But of course you wouldn’t admit that because the truth
hurts………….period
DHB will be fine as long as he cntinues to work like he has. Before his career is over he will be a very good player.
JC is just another QB like many trying to establish himself nothing more IMO. Give him a chance and he can be decent if not pretty good.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:17 am
Damn,
sht is crazy on this blog
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 am
How are you even of the mind that you could “Hurt my ego”? The comedy continues. SF has not been a worse city to live in than Oakland. First hand knowledge. Over rated by who? You?
LMFAO!
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:12 am
SF is extremely overrated, Drexl. I’m sorry if that hurts your ego, but it’s true. I think Oakland is a better city. Better people. I like the East Bay more than the peninsula overall.
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you already stated you don’t live in the east bay, or SF.
and you know of them because of knowing a few people that lived in oak? and sf?
you serious?
that’s ignorance, in spades
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
I don’t run the race card sissy I call people out who shw that they are, you must have been one of them your feelings are soooo hurt. Listen punk if you’re a racist yu’re a racist………..period
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 am
259.priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
I don’t run the race card sissy I call people out who shw that they are, you must have been one of them your feelings are soooo hurt. Listen punk if you’re a racist yu’re a racist………..period
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Tank Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
and if you question him? he runs the race card crap
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I see your point
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 am
OK, Tank, let me just buy a house in SF, live there for a couple of years, so I can say the exact same thing about SF in two years that I’m saying now. My opinion wouldn’t change a bit because I know everything there is to know about that city, and Oakland. And the rest of the bay. And a few other cities. But if you’re requiring that I live in each one of these cities at least once before offering any kind of opinion on them, what the heck. When I get rich, it’s first on the agenda. I guarantee you my review of these cities will not change, one iota.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:25 am
your problem, tjpriest, is you backtrack. means no credibility.
glancing through the archives shows you to be a glutton for punishment. nonstop stupid ramblings, insulting all who call you on it.
then when you are wrong, you gloss over it, like it was nothing.
so you get laughed at.
look at you now. JC has been in the league for years, but now that your boy sucks, everyone should just watch, and enjoy him, for a few more years?
it’s stupid, man
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:26 am
Just so you know, typically, when you live in a place, you hate it even more. You don’t like a place more the longer you live there, unless maybe you live in the playboy mansion. Thinking a place is just great is a sign of not having been there very often. In fact, your guys’ views of Oakland and SF in contrast to each other is right out of the book of people who’ve never even been to either place. Your view of these places are straight from what the lay person on the other side of the world would see of these cities on t.v. You probably think LA is all palm trees and surfing.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 am
RMR your babbling now.
Just log off, it’s been a long hard day of purse swinging for you. The mattress monster is calling.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:30 am
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
I don’t run the race card sissy I call people out who shw that they are, you must have been one of them your feelings are soooo hurt. Listen punk if you’re a racist yu’re a racist………..period
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I don’t know.
someone questioned jr? you called them racist.
someone commented on how he didn’t know the play book?
yep, read where you ranted on how everyone was racist.
JC comments? again with the racist comments.
now, either those dozens of posters who called you a racist are wrong, or you are.
unless there is another tjpriest here??
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:31 am
G’night lady’s.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:33 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 am
OK, Tank, let me just buy a house in SF, live there for a couple of years, so I can say the exact same thing about SF in two years that I’m saying now. My opinion wouldn’t change a bit because I know everything there is to know about that city, and Oakland. And the rest of the bay. And a few other cities. But if you’re requiring that I live in each one of these cities at least once before offering any kind of opinion on them, what the heck. When I get rich, it’s first on the agenda. I guarantee you my review of these cities will not change, one iota.
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you really have no idea how ignorant the above sounds?
seriously?
you know everything about oakland, because a couple people you knew lived there?
same thing about SF?
You didn’t live there. party there. drive through there. find places to hang out. to party, to eat, to avoid. to seek out. little hideouts most don’t know about?
none of that?
but you know eveything about both cities?
again, that’s nuts. and obviously so are you
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:39 am
You guys act as if race doesn’t take place in this country on this blog and isn’t present in our everyday lives. And if you tell that it isn’t then I’ll call you a LIAR………..period
Race is in everything especially in this racist country, it was born on racism and it lives pon racism. So you can take that crap and shove it those are the facts people are racist……period
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:40 am
Tank has a negative IQ.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:42 am
I think it’s safe to say that JC was a bust with the Redskins, he was there enough to get a good evaluation. Now here is the deal, the guy always gets an excuse whether it’s: he’s had a new OC ever year or now he’s had to look over his shoulder and the fans boo him and he doesn’t know the playbook well enough yet. Look if your a winner or a leader these things don’t stop you, period. He’s always been overhyped for whatever reason and now here is his chance in Oakland although I think it’s pretty safe to say he is who he is. He plays scared, the guys around him know that. Don’t think so? Look at the Titans game, he wasn’t looking over his shoulder at Grads and the telling moments came with that pitiful slide with no one around rather than pick up the first down and almost taking a knee instead of running the play. Enough excuses.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:48 am
The difference is I know it exist I know it when I see it. Wether you like it or not race is in everything. Now Bigotry is something different. There are some bigots in here but there are a lot of racism.
People didn’t like Russell because of who he was……….period That’s why they jumped on Grads the minute they could and that is also why they hate Campbell before he even got a chance to do anything.
I saw his flaws like everyone else and I also saw the need to play Grads but the way some of you went at it it’s obvious race was a part of it. I dn’t dislike Grads I actually like him and think we need him unfortunately he’s hurt. But maybe that is a blessing in disguise.
I have no problem with Grads I just don’t think he’s a starter……..period
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 am
Tj the truth is if you haven’t experienced something personally, it’s tough for people to relate to it. It’s without question there, but because Rush Limpbaugh types have never felt it, it doesn’t exist in their minds.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 am
Grads has had less of a chance to prove he’s a starter, but the guy just keeps inserting himself into the equation……you’ve gotta like a guy like that don’t you? Heart and balls.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 am
armchiar-you can cry all you want about the warriors having SF in the background, but following that by stating oak is a sports city, over SF, makes you look like a slow raider fan.
kinda bothers the rest of us.
anyone with a small amount of sports sense would state you were an idiot for running that, considering Al’s haven’t won a WS in 21 years.
and sf winning what? 3? 4 SB’s since we last won one, is also something you probably shouldn’t bring up.
hey, do it if you want.
but you might want to read your little ‘open mouth and remove all doubt” comment, because you’re weak.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:55 am
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
No pass zone
And tell us what you’ve been right about, dumbell you can’t handle what I bring to the table I’ve done it you talk about it. I wasn’t wrong about JC at all I’ve never made any predictions about him. I’m not wrong about DHB his career isn’t over and I’m right on about DMC he’s a great weapon. But of course you wouldn’t admit that because the truth
hurts………….period
DHB will be fine as long as he cntinues to work like he has. Before his career is over he will be a very good player.
JC is just another QB like many trying to establish himself nothing more IMO. Give him a chance and he can be decent if not pretty good.
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I was right about every single one of those players:
Russell – I could see right away he was a terrible QB, with no aptitude for the game and too slow moving and dimwitted. You still loud him as a great talent, while Al Davis, Tom Cable, and every other owner and coach in the league see him for what he is. He very well be the worst starting football player the league has ever seen (yes even worse than Harlow & Schweigert)
Campbell – I could see early on is slow, inaccurate, cannot read defenses, stares down recievers – basically incompetent. You DID think he would be a great QB for us, you just toned down your praise of him as of late.
McFadden – I knew would be a great talent in this league and was ecstatic when we drafted him. You are now on the bandwagon only AFTER he proved you wrong with his play on the field. Funny you conveniently didn’t mention how Anti-McFadden you were.
DHB – I was against his being drafted, but afterward held out hope for some sign of professional level talent. And have been disappointed ever since. Look what Ford and Murphy have done with a fraction of the opportunities. You predicted great things for him. DHB may turn out to have a career like James Jett, grade C+, but I don’t see him ever being an elite receive in this league. Just imagine the talent we could have had with that pick.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:56 am
49ers got lucky in that Walsh peaked at the right time with the right guys, I think the Raiders will win a SB before they will. When you look at their history it was a short burst of winning and long decades of misery.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:56 am
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:51 am
Tank shut me up, any time you think you can. You little sissy You’re upset because the shoe fits. Yopu know and I know it………..period
Now deal with it.
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isn’t that typical?
I notice you have nothing to say about my comment re: you insulting everone about russell being benched. here youare now telling every to just enjoy the game, but your lyingass was doing exactly what you tell everyone not to do.
when it’s brought up that you are a racist POS, all you can reply is that I must be one, for commenting on you?
seriously, I feel I have to dumbdown just to comment on that, to you.
what’s the bet, punk?
Let’s keep it friendly,
$100.00
chump change.
I’ll shut your sorryzz up so fast your head will spin.
well, chump?
man up or shut up, racist POS.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:59 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:56 am
49ers got lucky in that Walsh peaked at the right time with the right guys, I think the Raiders will win a SB before they will. When you look at their history it was a short burst of winning and long decades of misery.
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wish that was true.
some of my niner friends love rubbing it in how it’s not.
winningest team of the 80s
winningest team of the 90’s.
record stretch of 10 plus win seasons.
on and on.
all I have now is our record is better than theirs
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 am
how is it that big ben can play with a broken foot? we need some of that over here….the ability to trudge on through the pain in order to win (chaz)
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 am
Hobs I like Grads fine I just know what he is he’s not a star he’s a backup and a damn good one. Now JC neeeds to show what he is longterm if he wants to stay here.
I can’t say he’ll ever be great in fact I doubt it but he does have some strengths that can be utilized if they coach to his strengths. he can win games he’s proven that. Now we have to start someone and he’s done a decent job and mabe he can get better. Lets hope so becaiuse our playoff hopes henge on him getting things done.
But I think the wise thing is don’t expect greatness take him for what he is a QB trying to establish himself if you do that you wont be so disappointed.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:01 am
Tank Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:33 am
you know everything about oakland, because a couple people you knew lived there?
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I know enough about the bay area, every city, because I know people in just about all of them. That’s what I said. In fact, you’re the one pretending to know everything about these places, when you’ve probably never been to the bay area.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 am
what did they do before that? what did they do after walsh and young, rice or before then? of course they mention the 80’s and 90’s it’s all they got and ever will have.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
TJ, we shall see but if they win it won’t be because of Campbell. In fact these last two losses were a total team effort and the 3 wins were a total team effort, that is the only way they can win is if they understand they can’t show up and expect it. that is why grads was better for this team than JC, because of the fight in him rubbed off. it’s all about attitude and desire, the talent is there.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
Tank, as in Tonka Tank. Like a toy. I’ll kick you right out of the sandbox.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 am
later guys.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:07 am
NoPassingZone Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:55 am
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:16 am
No pass zone
And tell us what you’ve been right about, dumbell you can’t handle what I bring to the table I’ve done it you talk about it
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Well let’s hear it, what have you done? Whatever it was, it couldn’t have been judging talent because you’re obviously blind in that area. Let’s hear what gives you the right to sit up on your high horse and insult all of us peasants…
It really doesn’t matter because even if you were a HC in the NFL it wouldn’t change that fact that you have been wrong so often.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:08 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:01 am
Tank Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:33 am
you know everything about oakland, because a couple people you knew lived there?
………….
I know enough about the bay area, every city, because I know people in just about all of them. That’s what I said. In fact, you’re the one pretending to know everything about these places, when you’ve probably never been to the bay area.
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again, ignorant comment.
you know someone in SF?
so now you know all there is to know about the whole city?
same in Oakland?
and that’s your reasoning?
I never said I knew anything about it, one way or the other.
I just said it’s ignorant to state you know everything you’ll ever know because of a few people that lived that.
that’s beyond ignorance, actually
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 am
work calls in the morning.
bet is on tjpriest.
unless you already concede
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:20 am
Sounds like Rolando didn’t feel like practicing today.
He will make a miraculous recovery and play every down against the Chagers.
What a JOKE
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:33 am
Gradowski being out for the year was obvious a week ago. His arm didn’t really appear to be healed in the last game.
How will Campbell do now? The same as he’s been doing all year and the same as he did in Washington, which is why they wanted him gone.
As one Raider put it: We seem to curl up under a good pass rush. He wasn’t talking about Bruce.
The only thing that Campbell has in common with Plunkett is that he’s quiet and polite.
We need a quarterback but first we need to work on the OL.
We’ve all known it for years and we’ve all been amazed that Al Davis doesn’t seem to realize it. Last year’s draft was a good one. We need a good one this year.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:37 am
Hobs that IMO is a perception and a myth because the players themselves have said otherwise. It’s because YOU like him that is what makes YOu believe that. The players just want a consistent performer someone who’s there every weeek. Someone reliable. I don’t think they care which guy it is as long as he’s there every week.
This idea that Grads is so fiery and gets the players going and he’s a much better leader is perception. If you really listen to players I don’t get that I hear them saying that both guys are good QB’s just different. It’s personal prefernce on the part of fans. These players played very hard durin that 4 out of 5 wins when JC was starting they played hard and performed well. Now you can say he had nothing to do with it but IMO that is a very ignorant statement because he could’ve gne out there and thrown 4 ints and lost those games but he didn’t he ran the offense well enough for the players to make plays. That is all that is required he has to get the ball into their hand sso they can make plays. that’s his job and he did that. Now IMO he is an integral part of the offense just as Grads would be if he did the exact same things.
Just let the guy play and leave it alone man let him do his job and the players make plays that’s called plaing QB IMO. Maybe your looking to critically at him because he’s not your guy. A long as he wins who cares.
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:21 am
Anyone who is truly rooting for the Raiders should care less about “who’s guy” a player is. All we want is for the players to perform on the field and win. I would be ecstatic if Campbell goes out there and wins. I think a lot of people, me included, are afraid he’s not up to the task. True we did win with him at the helm, but we had herculean efforts by the Defense in one game, DMAC in another, and Ford in another.
I truly hope he does well on Sunday and improves as a QB. Nothing would make me happier than for Campbell to go out and establish himself as the QB and leader we all need him to be in these last 5 games. Wouldn’t have to go into another year searching for a QB.
This team is so freakin talented we don’t need an all-pro QB just a competent one. A game manager. We need him to be quicker, more accurate, and see the field better, make better decisions. If we can pull out a win Sunday we’re right back in the hunt. We better incorporate some quick-hitters, slants, outs, screens or we’re in for a long day. Without the short passing game, JC is going to get crushed and DMAC/Bush will never get rolling.
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:45 am
Suggs says preferential treatment of some players and red flags on others.
Raider fans get scoffed at when they bring up biased refs yet it happens to us over and over and over again. We get flags when other teams might not because we’re owned by Al Davis and I think simply because its almost become tradition for them to do so.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Now-Terrell-Suggs-is-bashing-the-NFL-says-leagu;_ylt=AhREk14jljB6JaIBv9kfY1RDubYF?urn=nfl-291236
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:46 am
Said it b4 say it again. I think this team can beat anyone when they play to the whistle.
They can beat SD.
December 3rd, 2010 at 3:14 am
You got to to admit, can this often confused team ever get it together? I think its time for a coaching change! Campbell has his bright spots but Gradkowski experiment should cease. One may ignite a team maybe one or two games but look what a disaster it was! Cable had his time now time to roll fatboy out the door. Al is old and does not have the eyes on the game any more. Look at the situation, There’s a coaching change on the horizon. Unless a miracle in this month we happen to stumble into first place and win the division(don’t laugh, its true) Considering the o-line can hang, Ford get open, downfield blocking. It could happen! Hue Jack, light fire under your players, let play smart and crisp. Give the defense a rest for a change. Remember the 59 point game win. Someone slap Grandpa AL, he’s sleep during the week and especially on Sundays. Let fatboy go. He’s destin to failed again unless the player step up!!!!!! Raiders for life.
December 3rd, 2010 at 4:37 am
Fox Sports is reporting that Harbough is going to Michigan.
Don’t know why he’d want to do that despite his past links there.
If he does move from Stanford I would have thought he’d go to some NFL team-like the Raiders.
He can bring Luck with him.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:10 am
good morning raider nation!
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:12 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 4:37 am
Fox Sports is reporting that Harbough is going to Michigan.
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Wonder if he’s going to pursue the course of a guy who turns downtrodden college programs around rather than NFL coach.
Mornin’ Nation.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:17 am
Well in about an hour I am off to beautiful Pagosa Springs, CO for a little 4 day work-cation.
I hope they have a sports bar there to watch the game, because I never warmed to that internet feed deal.
I am still convinced we will play the Dolts very close, Campbell will play well, and our 3rd down defense will not rely upon Walter McFadden making a play this week.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:18 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.PROBABLY A SMART MOVE BY HARBOUGH..
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:18 am
JFB,
Have fun on your trip, man. Hope you’re right about the Raiders’ prospects for Sunday!
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:22 am
JFB,BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN PAGOOSA SPRINGS,AT THE BOTTOM OF WOLF CREEK PASS..
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:23 am
drink a couple beers for me…vegas!
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:23 am
I hope they have a sports bar there to watch the game, because I never warmed to that internet feed deal.
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The NFL has shut down every internet feed I know of.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:25 am
Dirt-Lot,
Never been, but probably won’t hit Wolf Creek even though 100% of the run is open right now. Not much of a skier.
Just want to enjoy the timeshare we have, with some good food and good booze, with the comfort of turning off the work cellphone for 3 days.
Hopefully they have a sports bar, which I am sure will be a Bronco’s hang-out, and I will wear the Raider gear with pride.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:27 am
bcz, try veetle.com!
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:29 am
I guess worst case scenario is Papa and Flores on the dial.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:31 am
I’m ready for the first playoff game of the season down there in SD on Sunday.
We need to come out fired up and stay fired up for 60 minutes.
If we aren’t going to gameplan with any logic, we’ll just have to beat the sh;t out of the opponent at the LOS and up and down the field.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:29 am
I guess worst case scenario is Papa and Flores on the dial.
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Papa and Flores even if they’re on TV, Vegas.
Papa and Flores sounds like a morning radio show. Or a bar & grill or something.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:37 am
Last year Jamarcus went 14 of 22 for 109 yards, one int, one fumble, 5 sacks and we only lost by 8.
And that was with Fargas getting the bulk of the RB load.
We should be all right, at least to compete and be entertained.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:38 am
Morning Nation!
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:38 am
JFB,SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT FEW DAYS.AM NOT A SKIER MY SELF,HAVE FAMILY THERE..STAY WARM,EVEN IF U HAVE 2 FIND A “SNOW-BUNNY”2 HELP..
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:46 am
bcz24, I watched last weeks embarrassment on channelsurfing.net
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 am
Tom needs to some for real self scout this week.
‘Self cout’ should not consist of Al looking at your film and telling you to “go deep, fat@$$.”
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 am
self scout*
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:01 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 am
Tom needs to some for real self scout this week.
‘Self scout’ should not consist of Al looking at your film and telling you to “go deep, fat@$$.”
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LMFAO.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:04 am
If we win, playoffs. If we lose, team will be planning vacations and Tom will be updating his resume.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:04 am
At least the Lakers didn’t lose last night.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:07 am
I smell a repeat of a threepeat.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:10 am
Anyone buying this crap about not running because they were down early?
Against Pitt they wereup 3-0 at the end of the 1st and then Pitt got their groove but they still seemed to abandon the run well before the 2nd half.
Against Miami they were up at half time and still refused to run with any consistency at all.
After watching the eagles last night I really feel that Hue, despite looking great against some porous defenses(Den & Sea) has really done fugg all to utilze the best players on offense(aside from Miller being hurt). If they are afraid they can’t run get McFadden & Bush the ball with screens. Get both those guys on the field at the same time and try a PA screen to one or the other, scrap tryin to get the offense going with this deep shat and get the damn ball to the guys who have proven they can make plays!
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Harbaugh,
Just say no to Mich!
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:13 am
LA to TheBay Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:07 am
I smell a repeat of a threepeat.
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I thought it was a real possibility during the bye. It seems like a matchup that really favours SD. But this team has shocked us before…
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:15 am
Raider O,
Rodriquez cried again at a Mich banquet. What a puzzzzzzy.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:17 am
Off to see the Doctor….later gents.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:23 am
We need more talent and better coaching, but this team can stillwin with good coaching which we don’t have.
Cable, Hue, and Marshall are not doing so well. We need better coaching.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:24 am
LMAO Dakota, and I hope you enjoyed operation neutered wolverine.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:30 am
Damn you Preppie! Come and take what’s coming to you like a man.
Talking all that crap, and now you are MIA!!
Typical Mich preppie.
The Great OSU > Preppie Mich
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:38 am
166.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 pm
2 games? BG just got his SECOND 3rd degree shoulder seperation, and you think he’d be back in two weeks? Well Dr. MR I have to disagree. Really stupid!
……………
a) I don’t trust a thing the Raiders say, ever, about anything, unless they show me solid, physical proof of it, which brings me to…
b) I haven’t seen the x ray
c) Grads said himself it doesn’t even hurt that bad, and that he thinks he could be ready in a couple of weeks. Granted, that’s the warrior’s nature. But he’s far more credible with me than the Raiders are.
It’s interesting that someone who takes what the Raiders say at face value is calling me stupid. It would be like you calling someone a wannabe gangster, while we’re at it.
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I thought you really wanna be a Gangsta? No? Then why live in the crime Capitol? You wanna keep being the Victim?
“173.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Tank Says:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
one city is a top tourist spot.
one city is a crime capital.
which would you rather be associated with?
…………..
The crime capital.”
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:43 am
302.DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:22 am
JFB,BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN PAGOOSA SPRINGS,AT THE BOTTOM OF WOLF CREEK PASS..
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299.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:17 am
Well in about an hour I am off to beautiful Pagosa Springs, CO for a little 4 day work-cation.
I hope they have a sports bar there to watch the game, because I never warmed to that internet feed deal.
I am still convinced we will play the Dolts very close, Campbell will play well, and our 3rd down defense will not rely upon Walter McFadden making a play this week.
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Hey JFB, you gonna be hauling a Flat Bed of Chickens??
Watch out for Tunnels, and Feed stores!
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:46 am
Me an’ Earl was haulin’ chickens on a flatbed out of Wiggins, and we’d spent all night on the uphill side of thirty-seven miles of hell called Wolf Creek Pass. Which is up on the Great Divide?
We was settin’ there suckin’ toothpicks, drinkin’ Nehi and onion soup mix, and I said, “Earl, let’s mail a card to Mother then send them chickens on down the other side. Yeah, let’s give ‘em a ride.”
[Chorus]
Wolf Creek Pass, way up on the Great Divide
Truckin’ on down the other side
Well, Earl put down his bottle, mashed his foot down on the throttle, and then a couple’a boobs with a thousand cubes in a nineteen-forty-eight Peterbilt screamed to life. We woke up the chickens.
Well, we roared up offa that shoulder sprayin’ pine cones, rocks, and boulders, and put four hundred head of them Rhode Island reds and a couple a’ burnt-out roosters on the line. Look out below; ’cause here we go!
Well, we commenced to truckin’ and them hens commenced to cluckin’ and then Earl took out a match and scratched his pants and lit up the unused half of a dollar cigar and took a puff. Says “My, ain’t this purdy up here.”
I says, “Earl, this hill can spill us. You better slow down or you gonna kill us. Just make one mistake and it’s the Pearly Gates for them eight-five crates a’ USDA-approved cluckers. You wanna hit second?”
[Chorus]
Wolf Creek Pass, way up on the Great Divide
Truckin’ on down the other side
Well, Earl grabbed on the shifter and he stabbed her into fifth gear and then the chromium-plated, fully-illuminated genuine accessory shift knob come right off in his hand. I says, “You wanna screw that thing back on, Earl?”
[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/wolf-creek-pass-lyrics-cw-mccall.html ]
He was tryin’ to thread it on there when the fire fell off a’ his cigar and dropped on down, sorta rolled around, and then lit in the cuff of Earl’s pants and burned a hole in his sock. Yeah, sorta set him right on fire.
I looked on outta the window and I started countin’ phone poles, goin’ by at the rate of four to the seventh power. Well I put two and two together, and added twelve and carried five; come up with twenty-two thousand telephone poles an hour.
I looked at Earl and his eyes was wide, his lip was curled, and his leg was fried. And his hand was froze to the wheel like a tongue to a sled in the middle of a blizzard. I says, “Earl, I’m not the type to complain; but the time has come for me to explain that if you don’t apply some brake real soon, they’re gonna have to pick us up with a stick and a spoon.”
Well, Earl rared back, and cocked his leg, stepped as down as hard as he could on the brake, and the pedal went clear to the floor and stayed there, right there on the floor. He said it was sorta like steppin’ on a plum.
Well, from there on down it just wasn’t real purdy: it was hairpin county and switchback city. One of ‘em looked like a can full’a worms; another one looked like malaria germs. Right in the middle of the whole damn show was a real nice tunnel, now wouldn’t you know?
Sign says clearance to the twelve-foot line, but the chickens was stacked to thirteen-nine. Well we shot that tunnel at a hundred-and-ten, like gas through a funnel and eggs through a hen, and we took that top row of chickens off slicker than scum off a Lousiana swamp. Went down and around and around and down ’til we run outta ground at the edge of town. Bashed into the side of the feed store… in downtown Pagosa Springs.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:59 am
We have good talent/players on this team, we need to add a few more, improve the coaching staff, and this team can be great
Defense:
Seymour
Nnamdi
Houston
Matt S
Wimbley
McClain
Branch
Huff
Mitchell
Offense:
DMC
Bush
Miller
Ford
Murphy
Reece
We need to fix the OL, add an OLB and CB, and this team can be great/ special.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:15 am
Biggest “after season” move is to sign Seymour to an ext! Then Nnamdi! If we got the coin, M. Bush would be nice to retain, even if for only another year or two.
Oops, actually QB is the most important, then our FA’s.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 am
331.Raider O Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:59 am
We have good talent/players on this team, we need to add a few more, improve the coaching staff, and this team can be great
Defense:
Seymour
Nnamdi
Houston
Matt S
Wimbley
McClain
Branch
Huff
Mitchell
Offense:
DMC
Bush
Miller
Ford
Murphy
Reece
We need to fix the OL, add an OLB and CB, and this team can be great/ special.
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O, who’s gonna pass the ball?
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 am
Dirtiest Raccoon Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 am
O, who’s gonna pass the ball?
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Jason Plunkett
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:22 am
I wanted us to draft/ sign Blount. If we did, we don’t have to worry about signing Bush.
Damn you Cable.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:32 am
Raccoon,
I think we can win with JC bro, if we improve the OL, playcalling, and the Defense.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:36 am
LOL @ Jason Plunkett.
I think he is an avg QB, but a lot of teams won/ went to the SB with an avg QB.
Collins
Dilfer
Grossman
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:41 am
There is more than one way to build a good team.
-Improve the Defense. I think it can be special.
-Fix the OL. I’m not sold on Veldheer playing LT, and I think he is more of a RT. I also think Walker is too slow to play T, and we should use him at RG. Can we get B Campbell (the Freak) on the field.
-we can have all the talent in the world, but unless we have good coaching, we are not going to do much.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:42 am
I don’t know who the Jason Campbell or Bruce Gradkowski guys are, but they got nothin’ on Juice Campkowski.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 am
these*
man….
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:54 am
What’s up everyone.
Looks like talks of firing the Cable guy has started to pick up now. As well as next year’s draft.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:01 am
I have been saying fire Cavle since he was hired.
As for the Draft & draft talk, I Love it!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Morning peoples!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 am
Harbaugh or RMR’s daddy aka Gruden.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
OAK,
If we can’t get a great HC, then I agree. Keeping Cable is just as good as hiring guys like Fassel.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Wassupers
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 am
LMAO, my bad.
Good Morning DMAC.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Cable>Fassel
Print that!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Gary Kubiak will probably be fired in Houston if the Texans keep imploding. New coaches generally like to bring in their own QBs. Their defense, particularly their secondary, is one of the worst I’ve seen in years.
So let’s do Nnamdi for Matt Schaub! (I kid, I kid)
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Wassup O-doggy
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Gary Kubiak will probably be fired in Houston if the Texans keep imploding. New coaches generally like to bring in their own QBs. Their defense, particularly their secondary, is one of the worst I’ve seen in years.
So let’s do Nnamdi for Matt Schaub! (I kid, I kid)
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So what happened to their ROY?
Doesn’t look the same w/out the juice.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 am
A big Fu and Good mornin brother DMAC!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 am
So what happened to their ROY?
Doesn’t look the same w/out the juice.
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Funny how that works out, eh?
See also: Merriman, Shawne
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 am
I’m a happy camper. It’s Friday and I’m blessed to be living!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Wassu Oak
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:34 am
Wassup
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 am
chris peterson from boise st!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
I would to see Harbaugh, but I know I’m dreaming.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
If we can’t get a great HC, then I agree. Keeping Cable is just as good as hiring guys like Fassel.
Yes thats it O If we cant go get a real coach lets keep the one we have and As I said a fe days ago these players need to shoulder some of the blame for not being ready for the games after the bye week as well you can only coach so much guys need to want it and go take it… you can only do so much in a head set on sundays! But during the week I agree we need Something!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Zach Miller said Thursday that his plantar fasciitis injury is “getting more manageable every week.”
Perhaps there’s some hope for value in the fantasy playoffs after all. Miller is expected to contribute more as a blocker than receiver this week, but his passing-game role could grow if the injury subsides in the coming weeks.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
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We need Zack healthy.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am
353.DMAC Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Cable>Fassel
Print that!
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am
DMAC Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
I would to see Harbaugh, but I know I’m dreaming.
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No Cable fan here, but we might as well keep the neutered figuredhead we have than go through the charade of getting another one, if that’s what we’re going to have (and it is)
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:38 am
This draft will go down as one of the best drafts in Raiders history.
McClain, Ford, Houston, and Veldheer will start every game, and they can produce on the field. We also have potential in B Campbell, McFadden, Goethel, and Ware. Our entire draft is playing except Campbell. Not a bad draft.
Put Campbell (The Freak) on the field. Play him at FB in GL situations, TE, etc…. Do something!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
# Dakota Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am
353.DMAC Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Cable>Fassel
Print that!
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
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Take a look at that GMen roster, buddy.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
Gary Kubiak will probably be fired in Houston if the Texans keep imploding.
Kubiak for OC that could be interesting……..
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:40 am
I 2nd that O.
Put Campbell in, at least for 2 fk’n run plays.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am
# Dakota Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am
353.DMAC Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Cable>Fassel
Print that!
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
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Take a look at that GMen roster, buddy.
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LMAO
Barber was okay…other than that….Kerry Collins, Toomer, Hilliard….on D it was Strahan and that white CB lol…yeah, what a great roster!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Coach Norv Turner expects Mike Tolbert (hand) to return to practice on Friday.
“I think he’s making progress,” said Turner. “The biggest concern would be that he wouldn’t be able to grip the ball, but hes a lot better today and I think he’ll be able to practice tomorrow.” With 214 yards and two TDs on 51 carries the past two weeks, we expect Tolbert to be the Bolts’ primary ball carrier once again in Week 13.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
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Time to go after the bad hand and rip that ball out!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:44 am
DMAC,
That’s one of the reasons why I can’t agree that Cable is a better coach than Fassel. He likes players & start them, even if we have better players on the roster that can produce more.
Bush doesn’t play unless DMC is injured?!?
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
Fassel is a joke Dakota sorry man he has been kicked from every where hes been besides the UFL!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
# Dakota Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am
# Dakota Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am
353.DMAC Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Cable>Fassel
Print that!
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
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Take a look at that GMen roster, buddy.
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LMAO
Barber was okay…other than that….Kerry Collins, Toomer, Hilliard….on D it was Strahan and that white CB lol…yeah, what a great roster!
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So you telling me, Fassel made wonders?
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Was fooling around with that ESPN playoff generator thing they have.
It’s a longshot no matter how you look at it.
Winning out is obviously the easiest way in, but that’s even tough, since San Diego and KC both have pretty soft schedules the rest of the way. Best the Raiders can do is 10-6; KC or SD could easily go 11-5.
The Raiders actually could drop either the Jags or Colts game (but not both) and still get in at 9-7 if they win out in the division and get some help by San Diego and KC dropping some games. A 3 way tie at 9-7 would give Oakland the division title by virtue of the division record.
So obviously, it’s about 95 percent certain the playoffs are a pipe dream. No matter how you slice it, though, lose on Sunday and the season is over.
For myself, I’m holding out hope for 8-8. Cripes, even give me 7-9 and let’s at least break the double digit losing season streak.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 am
I think Fassel is a better coach than Cable, but not that much better. For that reason I would rather keep Cable over hiring a guy like Fassel.
Harbaugh, Gruden, and Del Rio are a lot better than Cable!
Fire Del Rio!!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
Dont forget Ron Dayne!!LOL
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
Name one great player besides Strahan on the 2000 NY Giants roster.
Tell me how many times Cable has come close to taking a team to a 12-4 record, let alone going to the SB.
7 years ago I would have laughed at the thought of Jim Fassel as our HC….but compared to Tom Cable it isn’t even close. Tom Cable has no business being an NFL HC. Jim Fassel’s record dwarfs Cable’s in every way.
Tom Cable is a joke as HC.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
OAK,
I like that idea, but IMHO Kubiac will most likely go back to work with Shanarat!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 am
This is what Fassel would look like coming to Oakland.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bugV1GAHhrE/TLpkWhvPMWI/AAAAAAAAA38/0ReTMTgHAmU/s1600/IMG_1943.JPG
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
Raider O Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
OAK,
I like that idea, but IMHO Kubiac will most likely go back to work with Shanarat!
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Shanahan’s got his son as his OC.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
375.OAKlifer Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
Fassel is a joke Dakota sorry man he has been kicked from every where hes been besides the UFL!
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Fassel is 67-58 in the NFL and took a team to the SB. Cable will NEVER BE OVER .500 in the NFL. NEVER and you know it. Hell, Fassel won a UFL championship….Cable couldn’t even do that I am sure.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:54 am
# Dakota Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
375.OAKlifer Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
Fassel is a joke Dakota sorry man he has been kicked from every where hes been besides the UFL!
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Fassel is 67-58 in the NFL and took a team to the SB. Cable will NEVER BE OVER .500 in the NFL. NEVER and you know it. Hell, Fassel won a UFL championship….Cable couldn’t even do that I am sure.
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Fassel has never coached the Raiders.
Nuff said.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:59 am
Silver,
I forgot about his son. You are right.
Fire Cable, and hire:
1- Harbaugh
2- Gruden (perfect for this team) built to run, play Defense, and he will have 3 vet QBs
3- Del Rio/ Kubiac
4- J Fox
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Fassel has never coached the Raiders.
Nuff said.
In 95 i think he coached our QB’s.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
I hate that we’ve been reduced to speculating on the next coach and draft moves. What a difference 3 weeks makes.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am
Dakota,
Why hire Fassel, if we can hire a better coach?
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am
# OAKlifer Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Fassel has never coached the Raiders.
Nuff said.
In 95 i think he coached our QB’s.
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HC
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 am
Fassel is 67-58 in the NFL and took a team to the SB. Cable will NEVER BE OVER .500 in the NFL. NEVER and you know it. Hell, Fassel won a UFL championship….Cable couldn’t even do that I am sure.
Dakota,
I Agree with that but firing Cable for fassel would do nothing for this franchise Fassel to me is a retread if we were going to make a coaching move I would just like to see it be a bonified head coach and if Fassel was one he would be working in the NFL right now.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
Harbaugh would never even bother to interview. He knows he’s coveted. Doesn’t have to put up with an Al Davis, so why would he?
Gruden already knows what it’s like to put up with an Al Davis. Al screwed him over. Why would he even think of coming back, especially considering Gruden had a real GM in Allen, and now Al is the GM? Never happen. Why would he?
requirements for job:
a) accept fact Al makes all the decisions
b) if in doubt, see a
the list is short on quality candidates.
very very short
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
I hate that we’ve been reduced to speculating on the next coach and draft moves. What a difference 3 weeks makes.
I say A win on Sunday and to hell with a new HC first time Charger sweep in gawd knows how many years hell Cable for Prez at that point!!! LOL I still think we can salvage this season woth a win on Sun but an embarassing loss and oh my I think heads will roll!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching. They win the games they were suppose to win, and we lost to AZ, SF, and Miami!
Damn you Cable!
Dame you Hue!
Dame you Marshall!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
In discussing potential HC candidates, we need to remember the pattern that Tim Kawakami pointed out some time back. Namely that for the past 20+ years, Al has alternated between two types of coaches.
He falls in love with brainy offensive guru-types, then gets annoyed because they tend to have minds of their own, fires them for a blue-collar offensive line type guy and then fires them because often they don’t turn out to be very good coaches.
The pattern is undeniable:
Shanahan – offensive guru
Shell – blue collar O-lineman
White – offensive guru
Bugel – blue collar O-lineman
Gruden – offensive guru
Callahan – blue collar O-lineman
Turner – offensive guru
Shell 2.0 – blue collar O-lineman
Kiffin – offensive guru
Cable – blue collar O-lineman
So, who out there will be the next supposed offensive genius with all the answers that Al will fall in love with for a season or two?
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
Raider O Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching
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Absolutely no denying this. Crennel has done wonders with that defense in one f-ing season.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:07 am
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching. They win the games they were suppose to win, and we lost to AZ, SF, and Miami!
Damn you Cable!
Damn you Hue!
Damn you Marshall!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:07 am
# Raider O Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching. They win the games they were suppose to win, and we lost to AZ, SF, and Miami!
Damn you Cable!
Dame you Hue!
Dame you Marshall!
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Damn you Sanjay Lal!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:13 am
DMAC,
Damn them all!!
Damn the LBs Coach!!
Damn the OLs coach!!
Damn the QBs coach!!
Damn the RBs coach!!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Mike Martz + a real qb = wins…
Hire this guy Al. He’s doing a bang up job with Jay “pork” Cutlet in Chi Town. Saved Lovies job. dessrves another HC shot.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Mike Martz + a real qb = wins…
Hire this guy Al. He’s doing a bang up job with Jay “pork” Cutlet in Chi Town. Saved Lovies job. dessrves another HC shot.
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A guy with Mike Martz’s personality co-existing with Al? hahahahahahahahahaha. Not in a million years.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 am
Besides, if Jason Plunkett had trouble grasping Hue Jackson’s playbook, he’ll never, EVER be able to figure out Martz’s. By all accounts, it’s as long as “War and Peace” and twice as complex.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 am
KC has some damn good coaches. Ton of experiance on both sides of the ball.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 am
I dont think JC will be the starter next year, barring a small miracle.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
The pattern is undeniable:
Shanahan – offensive guru
Shell – blue collar O-lineman
White – offensive guru
Bugel – blue collar O-lineman
Gruden – offensive guru
Callahan – blue collar O-lineman
Turner – offensive guru
Shell 2.0 – blue collar O-lineman
Kiffin – offensive guru
Cable – blue collar O-lineman
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the strongest of the bunch? all fired and moved on to success elsewhere.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 am
I dont think JC will be the starter next year, barring a small miracle.
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I’d say “I hope you’re right”, but I fear we’d have someone even worse foisted on us
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 am
# No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 am
I dont think JC will be the starter next year, barring a small miracle.
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understatement of the year.
no way JC is a starter, anywhere, next year.
I mean, look how many people actually think having grad out will help jc settle in, and not look over his shoulder.
If a qb is that insecure, why would you want him in a position that requires strong leadership?
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 am
Another bad thing about Martz: his scheme calls for the tight end to stay in and block most of the time, so ZMiller would be completely wasted.
Nothing against Martz personally, he just wouldn’t fit in Oakland for any number of reasons.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
KC vs. Oak:
-LBs: they have a good MLB (I forgot his name), and Tamba Hali. That’s not better than Wimbley & McClain. Other LBs for both teams are avg.
-DL: They have 2 1st RD picks from LSU ( they are playing well), but We Have Seymour, Henderson, TK, Houston, Matt S, T Scott, and Wimbley is a better pass rusher than Hali IMHO.
-DBs: They have 2 1st RD picks in Flowers abd Berry, but we have Nnamdi, Huff, and Branch.
We have more talent on Defense than they do, but they have better coaches.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Call me crazy but I think this is Al’s last season as GM. He’s been grooming his son to take over. He may be busy with league stuff and the potential lock out anyway. People forget that he was instrumental the last time there was a threat. He is respected still by the league and other owners for his insights into these negotiations. in fact i would love to se Goodell offer him a job with the league office. That way he would have to sell off his share of the team.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Wonder if Al makes another run at Steve Sarkisian.
Not saying Sarkisian would do it, just wondering if Al would even try again.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Call me crazy but I think this is Al’s last season as GM
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You’re crazy.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
“Foisted”? Nice wording there PA.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Mike Martz + a real qb = wins…
Hire this guy Al. He’s doing a bang up job with Jay “pork” Cutlet in Chi Town. Saved Lovies job. dessrves another HC shot.
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A guy with Mike Martz’s personality co-existing with Al? hahahahahahahahahaha. Not in a million years.
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Martz?
martz already came out here and interviewed.
After his second interview, before he reached the airport, his agent contacted the Raiders to inform them to not make him an offer, that he’s no longer interested in the job.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:26 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
“Foisted”? Nice wording there PA.
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I’ve got Word of the Day toilet paper!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
PGutierrezCSN Paul Gutierrez
#raiders rookie MLB Rolando McClain not practicing. Limping heavily. No sign of CB Chris Johnson
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
384.Raider O Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am
Dakota,
Why hire Fassel, if we can hire a better coach?
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I am not saying we should target Fassel. There is a huge list I would rather have than Fassel…however, if it came to Fassel or Cable, there is no question which one is a better coach.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
That was then Sammy. If Al would just relinquish some power. And the sun may be green tomorrow.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Goethal starts at MLB perhaps?
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:29 am
KC vs. Oak:
QB: they have Matt and we have JC. I think both are avg QBs.
RBs: Charles and Jones ate playing well & better than our RBs, but I don’t think they ate more talented than DMC & Bush.
TE: our TE is much better. Can you even name their starting TE? ZM is a PB talent.
WRs: The have DB, but that’s it. He is playing better than our young group, but we have talent at that position. Ford and Murphy are good WRs but they need to develop.
OL: I think both teams have avg OL, but their OL is playing better.
Again, I don’t think they more/ better talent, but they have better coaching.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
Goethal starts at MLB perhaps?
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Anything to keep Ricky Brown out of the starting lineup.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 am
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Wonder if Al makes another run at Steve Sarkisian.
Not saying Sarkisian would do it, just wondering if Al would even try again.
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Sark already turned down Al once.
One thing Al seems to nver forget is slights.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:34 am
# No Mas Diamante Says:
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
That was then Sammy. If Al would just relinquish some power. And the sun may be green tomorrow.
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lol. ah yes, the big “if”.
that “if” is the teams downfall, unfortunately.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:36 am
SammytheBull,
Good point.
If/when Cable goes, it’s going to turn into another Kiffin situation where Al talks to a bunch of qualified people, none of whom want the job when they realize the conditions it entails, and is forced to turn to an unknown third-rater.
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