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End of a QB `controversy’

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Whatever was left of the Jason Campbell-Bruce Gradkowski controversy, if it ever evolved to that, was put to rest Thursday.

Gradkowski went to the injured reserve list, J.T. O’Sullivan was signed as the third quarterback, and Campbell, unless there’s a move toward Kyle Boller, will get a chance to play without looking over his shoulder.

Although he wasn’t available for comment, it’s unlikely this was Gradkowski’s idea. He joined the team for Wednesday’s practice, jogging through drills, and was with the team at the Thursday morning walkthrough.

Not long after the Raiders came off the field at 12:15 p.m., O’Sullivan was arriving at the practice facility with a member of the support staff and Gradkowski got the news he was done for the season.

You wonder if Gradkowski’s eagerness to return this season, laudable in a competitor, was something the Raiders simply didn’t want to deal with as the season was coming to a close.

Campbell was signed to an extension after being traded to the Raiders for $4.6 million next season, and it makes sense for the club to let him get those five games in, health permitting, or determine whether to go in a different direction.

“It would be a week a week or two weeks before he could even throw again or practice,’’ coach Tom Cable said. “You look at what’s left on our schedule. It’s just not enough time. I think it was a good decision made to move forward.’’

More news, notes and observations from Thursday:

— Rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain missed practice with a foot injury of undetermined severity. He’ll have an X-Ray and MRI. Cable said he didn’t know if it was an issue for the San Diego game.

“We hope not,’’ Cable said. “It was a little sore yesterday, nothing to even talk about. All of a sudden today it was sore. So we’re investigating it.’’

— Defensive tackle Richard Seymour did not practice with a knee injury. A Raiders spokesman said they mistakenly wrote “shoulder’’ on the previous day’s report.

— O’Sullvan has bounced around the NFL after a successful career at UC Davis, having been with 11 teams, three of which he actually saw playing time with four of them.

He got his most extensive playing time with the 49ers in 2008, completing 128 of 220 passes (58.2 percent) for 1,678 yards, eight touchdowns and 11 interceptions before being benched in favor of Shaun Hill.

“We know a little bit about his background, (Passing game coordinator) Ted Tollner was with him in San Francisco,’’ Cable said. “So he’s got some experience and a little bit of the terminology. And he has started a few games in the NFL.’’

O’Sullivan also spent some time early this season with the Chargers, who not coincidentally happen to be Sunday’s opponent. Might that be a reason he was signed?

“I don’t know so much about that, but it certainly doesn’t hurt to ask,’’ Cable said.

— Cable conceded that fullback Marcel Reece has gone off the radar in recent weeks but he doesn’t expect it to stay that way.

“I don’t think there have been opportunities like there were early,’’ Cable said. “He was a very impactful player for us there for a stretch, and people are defending the heck out of him now. I think there will be opportunities as we move forward.’’

— Wide receiver Chaz Schilens practiced on consecutive days for the first time since training camp, although he was still listed as being “ limited.’’

Maybe he’ll make it into a game this season after all. He looked spry enough dodging reporters when he initially came off the field following the morning walkthrough.

Also limited were CB Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), SS Tyvon Branch (shoulder) and TE Zach Miller (leg, plantar fascia).

CB Chris Johnson (groin) is not making a lot of progress, didn’t practice and looks as if he’ll miss a second straight game.

— Defensive coordinator John Marshall, his unit having given up 68 points in the last two games and struggling with its pass rush and coverage ability, was more tight-lipped than usual in his session with the media.

Marshall has saved his most pointed criticisms at a much higher decibel level for the meeting rooms.

“(We’re) not making plays, basically, and the rest of the comments will stay in house because it deals with players,’’ Marshall said.

– The Chargers gained 506 yards on the Raiders in the first meeting between the teams, including 431 yards passing by Philip Rivers.

However, Oakland put the game away by blitzing Rivers on six straight plays, with Michael Huff coming up with a sack/fumble recovered by Branch that was returned 69 yards for a touchdown.

While not revealing anything to do with a plan of attack, Marshall said, “:I think when you play defense if you’re too cautious then you’re not playing defense. So you play and you rely on the players making plays.’’

— Marshall said his unit’s strength against San Diego was “our coverage, our DBs and our defensive line pass rush.’’

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  • DMAC

    # SilverNBlackPA Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Gary Kubiak will probably be fired in Houston if the Texans keep imploding. New coaches generally like to bring in their own QBs. Their defense, particularly their secondary, is one of the worst I’ve seen in years.

    So let’s do Nnamdi for Matt Schaub! (I kid, I kid)
    ==========
    So what happened to their ROY?
    Doesn’t look the same w/out the juice.

  • OAKlifer

    A big Fu and Good mornin brother DMAC!

  • SilverNBlackPA

    So what happened to their ROY?
    Doesn’t look the same w/out the juice.
    ++++++++++++++

    Funny how that works out, eh?

    See also: Merriman, Shawne

  • DMAC

    I’m a happy camper. It’s Friday and I’m blessed to be living!

  • DMAC

    Wassu Oak

  • DMAC

    Wassup

  • olinesux

    chris peterson from boise st!

  • DMAC

    I would to see Harbaugh, but I know I’m dreaming.

  • OAKlifer

    If we can’t get a great HC, then I agree. Keeping Cable is just as good as hiring guys like Fassel.

    Yes thats it O If we cant go get a real coach lets keep the one we have and As I said a fe days ago these players need to shoulder some of the blame for not being ready for the games after the bye week as well you can only coach so much guys need to want it and go take it… you can only do so much in a head set on sundays! But during the week I agree we need Something!

  • DMAC

    Zach Miller said Thursday that his plantar fasciitis injury is “getting more manageable every week.”
    Perhaps there’s some hope for value in the fantasy playoffs after all. Miller is expected to contribute more as a blocker than receiver this week, but his passing-game role could grow if the injury subsides in the coming weeks.
    Source: San Francisco Chronicle
    ==========
    We need Zack healthy.

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    353.DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
    Cable>Fassel
    Print that!

    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
    I would to see Harbaugh, but I know I’m dreaming.

    +++++++++

    No Cable fan here, but we might as well keep the neutered figuredhead we have than go through the charade of getting another one, if that’s what we’re going to have (and it is)

  • http://atm Raider O

    This draft will go down as one of the best drafts in Raiders history.
    McClain, Ford, Houston, and Veldheer will start every game, and they can produce on the field. We also have potential in B Campbell, McFadden, Goethel, and Ware. Our entire draft is playing except Campbell. Not a bad draft.

    Put Campbell (The Freak) on the field. Play him at FB in GL situations, TE, etc…. Do something!

  • DMAC

    # Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    353.DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
    Cable>Fassel
    Print that!

    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
    =========
    Take a look at that GMen roster, buddy.

  • OAKlifer

    Gary Kubiak will probably be fired in Houston if the Texans keep imploding.

    Kubiak for OC that could be interesting……..

  • DMAC

    I 2nd that O.
    Put Campbell in, at least for 2 fk’n run plays.

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    # Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    353.DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
    Cable>Fassel
    Print that!

    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
    =========
    Take a look at that GMen roster, buddy.

    +++++++++

    LMAO

    Barber was okay…other than that….Kerry Collins, Toomer, Hilliard….on D it was Strahan and that white CB lol…yeah, what a great roster!

  • DMAC

    Coach Norv Turner expects Mike Tolbert (hand) to return to practice on Friday.
    “I think he’s making progress,” said Turner. “The biggest concern would be that he wouldn’t be able to grip the ball, but hes a lot better today and I think he’ll be able to practice tomorrow.” With 214 yards and two TDs on 51 carries the past two weeks, we expect Tolbert to be the Bolts’ primary ball carrier once again in Week 13.
    Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
    ===================
    Time to go after the bad hand and rip that ball out!

  • http://atm Raider O

    DMAC,

    That’s one of the reasons why I can’t agree that Cable is a better coach than Fassel. He likes players & start them, even if we have better players on the roster that can produce more.
    Bush doesn’t play unless DMC is injured?!?

  • OAKlifer

    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.

    Fassel is a joke Dakota sorry man he has been kicked from every where hes been besides the UFL!

  • DMAC

    # Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am

    # Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am

    353.DMAC Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
    Cable>Fassel
    Print that!

    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.
    =========
    Take a look at that GMen roster, buddy.

    +++++++++

    LMAO

    Barber was okay…other than that….Kerry Collins, Toomer, Hilliard….on D it was Strahan and that white CB lol…yeah, what a great roster!
    ============
    So you telling me, Fassel made wonders?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Was fooling around with that ESPN playoff generator thing they have.

    It’s a longshot no matter how you look at it.

    Winning out is obviously the easiest way in, but that’s even tough, since San Diego and KC both have pretty soft schedules the rest of the way. Best the Raiders can do is 10-6; KC or SD could easily go 11-5.

    The Raiders actually could drop either the Jags or Colts game (but not both) and still get in at 9-7 if they win out in the division and get some help by San Diego and KC dropping some games. A 3 way tie at 9-7 would give Oakland the division title by virtue of the division record.

    So obviously, it’s about 95 percent certain the playoffs are a pipe dream. No matter how you slice it, though, lose on Sunday and the season is over.

    For myself, I’m holding out hope for 8-8. Cripes, even give me 7-9 and let’s at least break the double digit losing season streak.

  • http://atm Raider O

    I think Fassel is a better coach than Cable, but not that much better. For that reason I would rather keep Cable over hiring a guy like Fassel.

    Harbaugh, Gruden, and Del Rio are a lot better than Cable!

    Fire Del Rio!!

  • OAKlifer

    Dont forget Ron Dayne!!LOL

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    Name one great player besides Strahan on the 2000 NY Giants roster.

    Tell me how many times Cable has come close to taking a team to a 12-4 record, let alone going to the SB.

    7 years ago I would have laughed at the thought of Jim Fassel as our HC….but compared to Tom Cable it isn’t even close. Tom Cable has no business being an NFL HC. Jim Fassel’s record dwarfs Cable’s in every way.

    Tom Cable is a joke as HC.

  • http://atm Raider O

    OAK,

    I like that idea, but IMHO Kubiac will most likely go back to work with Shanarat!

  • DMAC
  • SilverNBlackPA

    Raider O Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
    OAK,

    I like that idea, but IMHO Kubiac will most likely go back to work with Shanarat!

    +++++++++++++

    Shanahan’s got his son as his OC.

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    375.OAKlifer Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.

    Fassel is a joke Dakota sorry man he has been kicked from every where hes been besides the UFL!
    ++++++++++++

    Fassel is 67-58 in the NFL and took a team to the SB. Cable will NEVER BE OVER .500 in the NFL. NEVER and you know it. Hell, Fassel won a UFL championship….Cable couldn’t even do that I am sure.

  • DMAC

    # Dakota Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am

    375.OAKlifer Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
    One took a team to the SB and has a + .500 coaching record…the other guy has a looooooong way to go te even come close to Fassel.

    Fassel is a joke Dakota sorry man he has been kicked from every where hes been besides the UFL!
    ++++++++++++

    Fassel is 67-58 in the NFL and took a team to the SB. Cable will NEVER BE OVER .500 in the NFL. NEVER and you know it. Hell, Fassel won a UFL championship….Cable couldn’t even do that I am sure.
    ============
    Fassel has never coached the Raiders.
    Nuff said.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Silver,

    I forgot about his son. You are right.

    Fire Cable, and hire:
    1- Harbaugh
    2- Gruden (perfect for this team) built to run, play Defense, and he will have 3 vet QBs
    3- Del Rio/ Kubiac
    4- J Fox

  • OAKlifer

    Fassel has never coached the Raiders.
    Nuff said.

    In 95 i think he coached our QB’s.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    I hate that we’ve been reduced to speculating on the next coach and draft moves. What a difference 3 weeks makes.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Dakota,

    Why hire Fassel, if we can hire a better coach?

  • DMAC

    # OAKlifer Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Fassel has never coached the Raiders.
    Nuff said.

    In 95 i think he coached our QB’s.
    =====
    HC

  • OAKlifer

    Fassel is 67-58 in the NFL and took a team to the SB. Cable will NEVER BE OVER .500 in the NFL. NEVER and you know it. Hell, Fassel won a UFL championship….Cable couldn’t even do that I am sure.

    Dakota,

    I Agree with that but firing Cable for fassel would do nothing for this franchise Fassel to me is a retread if we were going to make a coaching move I would just like to see it be a bonified head coach and if Fassel was one he would be working in the NFL right now.

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    Harbaugh would never even bother to interview. He knows he’s coveted. Doesn’t have to put up with an Al Davis, so why would he?

    Gruden already knows what it’s like to put up with an Al Davis. Al screwed him over. Why would he even think of coming back, especially considering Gruden had a real GM in Allen, and now Al is the GM? Never happen. Why would he?

    requirements for job:
    a) accept fact Al makes all the decisions
    b) if in doubt, see a

    the list is short on quality candidates.
    very very short

  • OAKlifer

    I hate that we’ve been reduced to speculating on the next coach and draft moves. What a difference 3 weeks makes.

    I say A win on Sunday and to hell with a new HC first time Charger sweep in gawd knows how many years hell Cable for Prez at that point!!! LOL I still think we can salvage this season woth a win on Sun but an embarassing loss and oh my I think heads will roll!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
    We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching. They win the games they were suppose to win, and we lost to AZ, SF, and Miami!

    Damn you Cable!
    Dame you Hue!
    Dame you Marshall!

  • SilverNBlackPA

    In discussing potential HC candidates, we need to remember the pattern that Tim Kawakami pointed out some time back. Namely that for the past 20+ years, Al has alternated between two types of coaches.

    He falls in love with brainy offensive guru-types, then gets annoyed because they tend to have minds of their own, fires them for a blue-collar offensive line type guy and then fires them because often they don’t turn out to be very good coaches.

    The pattern is undeniable:

    Shanahan – offensive guru
    Shell – blue collar O-lineman
    White – offensive guru
    Bugel – blue collar O-lineman
    Gruden – offensive guru
    Callahan – blue collar O-lineman
    Turner – offensive guru
    Shell 2.0 – blue collar O-lineman
    Kiffin – offensive guru
    Cable – blue collar O-lineman

    So, who out there will be the next supposed offensive genius with all the answers that Al will fall in love with for a season or two?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Raider O Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am
    Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
    We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Absolutely no denying this. Crennel has done wonders with that defense in one f-ing season.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
    We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching. They win the games they were suppose to win, and we lost to AZ, SF, and Miami!

    Damn you Cable!
    Damn you Hue!
    Damn you Marshall!

  • DMAC

    # Raider O Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Fire the Fat Monkey!!!
    We need better coaching. KC has less talent than we do (or just as much), but they won more games due to coaching. They win the games they were suppose to win, and we lost to AZ, SF, and Miami!

    Damn you Cable!
    Dame you Hue!
    Dame you Marshall!
    =======
    Damn you Sanjay Lal!

  • http://atm Raider O

    DMAC,

    Damn them all!!
    Damn the LBs Coach!!
    Damn the OLs coach!!
    Damn the QBs coach!!
    Damn the RBs coach!!

  • No Mas Diamante

    Mike Martz + a real qb = wins…
    Hire this guy Al. He’s doing a bang up job with Jay “pork” Cutlet in Chi Town. Saved Lovies job. dessrves another HC shot.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    December 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
    Mike Martz + a real qb = wins…
    Hire this guy Al. He’s doing a bang up job with Jay “pork” Cutlet in Chi Town. Saved Lovies job. dessrves another HC shot.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    A guy with Mike Martz’s personality co-existing with Al? hahahahahahahahahaha. Not in a million years.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Besides, if Jason Plunkett had trouble grasping Hue Jackson’s playbook, he’ll never, EVER be able to figure out Martz’s. By all accounts, it’s as long as “War and Peace” and twice as complex.

  • No Mas Diamante

    KC has some damn good coaches. Ton of experiance on both sides of the ball.

  • No Mas Diamante

    I dont think JC will be the starter next year, barring a small miracle.

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    The pattern is undeniable:

    Shanahan – offensive guru
    Shell – blue collar O-lineman
    White – offensive guru
    Bugel – blue collar O-lineman
    Gruden – offensive guru
    Callahan – blue collar O-lineman
    Turner – offensive guru
    Shell 2.0 – blue collar O-lineman
    Kiffin – offensive guru
    Cable – blue collar O-lineman
    =====================

    the strongest of the bunch? all fired and moved on to success elsewhere.