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Madden: Time change much ado about nothing

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 10th, 2010 at 2:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Tom Cable has added Father Time to his job title this week, moving everything forward three hours in an attempt to trick the body clocks of his players.

In theory, the fact that the Raiders got up earlier and practiced three hours earlier all week will make a 1 p.m. start in Jacksonville seem like a 1 p.m. start on the West Coast. Rather than wiping the sleep out of their eyes, the Raiders hit the field ready to play.

Cable cited this year’s games in Tennessee and Pittsburgh as problematic (although the Nashville game was a two-hour change _ noon in a central time zone), games the Raiders looked sluggish from the outset and lost by a combined score of 70-16.

He didn’t like the way the team opened the game against Pittsburgh last season in a 27-24 win, with the Raiders scoring three touchdowns in the fourth quarter to pull it out. A trip to New Jersey for a 1 p.m. game that fit the 10 a.m. West Coast window was over early. Giants 44, Raiders 7.

(The Raiders beat Tampa Bay in that time slot 31-24 to close the 2008 season in a game that went a long way toward Cable being named head coach).

Madden, during his regular spot on KCBS (740-AM) Friday, didn’t think Cable’s clock management would necessarily hurt, but he didn’t think it would help, either.

“That really doesn’t have anything to do with anything,” Madden said. “It’s who you have get up at 5 o’clock in the morning. It’s always going to boil down to that. If you have the better team and you go and play like you should you’re going to win. If you don’t have the better players, you’re going to lose. , whether you get up at 5 o’clock or 6 o’clock or 7 o’clock.

“I don’t know that that’s going to make them play any better, I really don’t.”

But what about the Raiders’ troubles in East Coast games?

“Which Raiders? I mean, those Raiders have been lousy every place,” Madden said. “They’ve been lousy at home. They’ve been lousy when they go down to San Diego for years and other places too. When the Raiders were good it didn’t seem to bother them.”

Madden said the only time he could recall a “morning” game being a problem was a Thanksgiving date in Detroit during a short week. The Raiders jumped ahead 14-0, then ran out of gas and lost 28-14.

When asked what he would say if Cable asked him about the strategy, Madden said, “First of all he’s not going to ask me. If he did I would say that it doesn’t make any (difference), if you believe in it and maybe the payers believe in it and it helps, then fine. I don’t necessarily think it’s going to change either way.”

Madden’s right in that it can’t hurt, and it’s not as if the Raiders haven’t pushed the boundaries of logic looking for any edge in the past. For years, the Raiders almost always switched hotels after they lost a road game, using a different one the next time they visited that city.

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  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    And when I say high, Norco, I mean on crack. You know it. People who do drugs as much as you always become smokers.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Best thing about Sacramento is that it is only about an hour away from Chico.

    I sold all kinds of municipal bonds from all over the country, and the only ones that ever bit me in the azz were the damn Laguna Ridge project in Elk Grove.

    I will never forget or forgive for that.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    People from the bay and L.A. can bash Sacramento all they want while they’re on their way here to live.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    So, Just Fire Baby hates Sacramento because he’s a lousy business man?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Sacramento was bad for business

  • PurpleDrank81

    Sac is aight but I wouldnt choose to live there…..

  • PurpleDrank81

    Cambodia is way nicer than Sac

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    No, Just Fire Baby, plenty of people succeed here. You just couldn’t make it here.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Sac is aight but I wouldnt choose to live there…..

    ……………….

    Why not? There’s a couple of trailer parks here.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Cambodia is way nicer than Sac

    ………..

    I know. No place like home. But you’re here in America so you’d might as well adapt in a developed nation.

  • J Hill

    Until I see one of our former linemen do anything substantial somewhere else, the OL deserves a good chunk of the blame.

  • davidon

    Man, that would be a lot of yards and long drives. The game might end at 12:25 PST if that happens.

    _______________________________________________________

    I sure hope so..I’ve got family obligations and won’t be able to watch the last half hour

  • Just Fire Baby

    Kevin Boothe won a Super Bowl didn’t he?

  • J Hill

    Champ Bailey is an UFA this offseason.

    Hmmmmm!

  • J Hill

    Some bumb arssee ZBS coach got rid of Moster Boothe.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Grove and Green got pay-raises on the FA market.

    I know they flamed out, but our QB’s go into Real Estate and cameo’s in OTL specials after they leave here.

  • http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com RaiderChaos

    Please come out to Pico Rivera if you’re in Southern California for this great event. Tons of Raider Nation Faithful will be there and so will 2 Time SB Champion Rod Martin and 3 Time SB Champion Cliff Branch. You don’t want to miss this……..

    http://raiderchaos.blogspot.com/2010/12/angel-in-disguise.html

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 11:41 am

    I didn’t live there, and your damn suburb of Elk Grove was the turd at the bottom of the toilet bowl of the CA municpal bond world.

    ………….

    You’re just a failed businessman, blaming everyone but yourself. What about the people that succeeded doing business in Elk Grove? They had the edge. You didn’t.

  • PurpleDrank81

    I love how you try bashing me by thinking that I live in a Trailer Park. For 1 thing I really didnt say anything bad about Sac I just would not choose to live there because I see nothing that would make me want to live there.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Elk Grove doesn’t suck. Plenty of people have succeeded there. You’re just not one of them. But you tried.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    That sounds like the typical view of Sacramento from people who live in LA or the bay, purple. Right before they move here.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    And if you couldn’t make it in Elk Grove, i don’t what made you think you’d make it in Vegas. It’s no wonder you’re traveling around the south west selling insurance now. LOL. I’d rather be one of the people who owns a successful business in Elk Grove. And so would you.

  • edward teach

    298.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am
    Draft football skills first. When drafting receivers, you narrow it down to guys that can catch the ball in traffic. That’s your first requirement. Then look at speed and agility. The smart money was Crabtree. We took DHB.

    ********************************************************

    Absolutely true.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    sac a tomatoes..lol. Sacramento’s not a farm town, idiot. Never was. It’s a port town. Sacramento was an established city as early as SF was.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    I was brokering bonds and Elk Grove just happened to come across the desk.

    ………..

    you got into bonds.

    You failed in Elk Grove.

    You’re still bitter.

    You’re blaming others.

    You’re a loser.

  • PurpleDrank81

    I wouldnt move to Sac just based on my Clients that I would leave here in Marin And Sonoma County

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    purple drank, that’s funny that you call your burger king customers “clients”

  • Just Fire Baby

    I did not fail “in” Elk Grove

    Elk Grove failed. It’s that simple.

    Sigh…..why am I even bothering.

    Enjoy your saturday and good luck on your 60 pass attempts claim tomorrow.

  • PurpleDrank81

    Thats funny how you think ppl work at burger king and live in Trailer Parks.. Why are you so in love with them.. Childhood memories?????

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    I did not fail “in” Elk Grove

    Elk Grove failed. It’s that simple.

    …………

    You got into bonds.

    You failed.

    You’re bitter, still, as expressed today.

    You’re blaming others for YOUR failures.

    That’s what losers do.

    You’re a loser.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    I don’t think “people” work at burger king and live in trailer parks, purple. I think you do. Look at your name for crying out loud.

  • PurpleDrank81

    It changed from 60 pass attempts to 70

  • PurpleDrank81

    My name has nothin to do with the place I work at.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 11th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Sigh…..why am I even bothering.

    …………

    Because you stuck your foot in your mouth and you’re trying to save face. It’s not rocket science.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we throw every down tomorrow. Al didn’t sign Jason Campbell to hand off the ball and he didn’t draft DHB to block.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    And it’s Al’s team! He always takes over. One sure sign Al’s about to take the reigns and meddle into the gameplan is when fans insist he’s “changed” and is giving the coaches “more control”. LOL. We’ve been hearing that for 7 years.

  • PurpleDrank81

    No more than 30 pass attempts 2morrow

  • ArmChair GM

    Crapamento sucks. Get over it. It’s a wannabe Bay Area city. Period.

  • http://www.raiders.com Smigg.Dirtee

    Mornin

  • http://www.raiders.com Smigg.Dirtee

    Why would Sac “want” to be the Bay Area? Tell me GM what is it?

  • raidertalk

    Actually I wouldn’t mind alot of pass attempts if we won. Especially if there were some good screens to Dmac and DHB to exploit their speed. JAX might stack the box if we start to vanilla on Offense.

  • raidertalk

    Damn, is it just me or did madden sound a little pssed or bitter?

    “Which Raiders? I mean, those Raiders have been lousy every place,” Madden said. “They’ve been lousy at home. They’ve been lousy when they go down to San Diego for years and other places too. When the Raiders were good it didn’t seem to bother them.”

    Maybe hes trying to fire up people or something…

  • http://www.raiders.com Smigg.Dirtee

    Yeah I thought Madden’s comments were strangew too.

  • Plunketthead

    New post numbnuts!!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Yeah doesn’t sound like John madden at all
    maybe he had enough just like the rest of us
    nut were doing well now so still I dint understand the comments
    either

  • RaiderSam

    I think he’s trying to fire up that team. I only hope it doesnt backfire.

  • uprforum

    The problem with playing back East is you do not get enough sleep: The night before the game in the hotel, you go to bed earlier Pacific time when you are not sleepy and cannot get to sleep and get up earlier than you would Pacific time; as a result, you do not get enough sleep on the night before the day of the game. Cable having his team practice at an earlier hour on the West Coast may not help, but having his team get up earlier West Coast time, which he also did, will help. That’s my opinion based upon my experience as a traveler.

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