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Raiders live chat here on Tuesday at noon

By Jon Becker
Monday, December 13th, 2010 at 6:00 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.

Jerry McDonald breaks down the Raiders’ disappointing loss Sunday and looks ahead to this week’s game against Denver in our Raiders live chat on Tuesday at noon PST.

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  • RAIDERMAN99

    Some thoughts on the loss in JaJacksonville:

    JaJason played a superb game…by JaJason standards…he didn’t lose the game…he played as well as JaJason can.

    But he’s still JaJason and he still sucks.

    I’m reluctant to criticize JaJason any more for checking down.

    Heck, I prefer that JaJason checks down to DMAC for a positive play rather than the incompletion, interception, or sack that will come when JaJason tries to go downfield.

    Obviously, so does HuJax.

    Hence, the conspicuously noticeable lack of attempts at intermediate or longer gains through the air.

    The Raider coaching staff knows JaJason has a good arm but isn’t accurate enough and can’t read defenses or react to blitzes well enough to get the job done.

    So JaJason gets to do what he does best…check down and get the ball into the hands of a real playmaker.

    Unfortunately, even on a day where the Raid offense performed very well this was not enough to secure a crucial victory.

    DMAC isn’t always going to have career days like the one in Jacksonville, and on those days the lack of a better passing attack will be even more noticeable.

    JaJason is who he is. A stiff that on his best day is only capable of managing a game and completing short gainers.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Al Davis is that 90 year old woman who still brags about the one time old Blue eyes and Dino ran a train on her at the Stardustin ’58.

  • http://no_knuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    Looks like it maybe raining small hooved animals all weekend in the Bay Area, could be Mud Bowl 2010 on Sunday….

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    RaiderNation Book-Club.

    Ill Fares the Land, by Tony Judt

    A passionate, outraged cry for collective action, from the late historian.

    Ill Fares the Land: “Something is profoundly wrong with the way we live today. For thirty years we have made a virtue out of the pursuit of material self-interest: indeed, this very pursuit now constitutes whatever remains of our sense of collective purpose. We know what things cost but have no idea what they are worth. We no longer ask of a judicial ruling or a legislative act: is it good? Is it fair? Is it just? Is it right? Will it help bring about a better society or a better world? Those used to be the political questions, even if they invited no easy answers. We must learn once again to pos

  • inonewordraider

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    Al Davis is that 90 year old woman who still brags about the one time old Blue eyes and Dino ran a train on her at the Stardustin ‘58.

    HA HA !!!

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Some other random thoughts:

    What was the idea behind the wildcat in the first quarter ?

    What was it…3rd and 3 ?

    And you go wildcat with Jacoby Ford taking the snap ?

    Is Ford any threat to pass the ball ? Or are you just letting the Jags know that it’s a certain run ?

    Don’t get that play call at all and I’d love to hear HuJax’s explanation for that beauty.

    And someone needs to ask Mr. Marshall why the advent of an all safety secondary came into play.

    Let’s get cute with an all safety wrinkle. Somehow this is going to confuse the opposition, I guess. Only problem is it takes supposedly the best corner in the game off the field, and Huff winds up in single coverage with no deep help and easily gets smoked for a TD. Pure genius Mr. Marshall, unless one of the other safeties completely blew his assignment.

    After watching Matt Forte blow past Huff in the pre-season it should be obvious that Huff doesn’t have the foot or top recovery speed to play corner.

    If you’re going to get cute and put 5 safeties on the field then some of them better be coming free on a blitz and tearing Gerrard’s head off. Instead he’s got all day to throw to a WR that’s single covered right down the middle of the field.

    Like HuJax, Marshall has some explaining to do.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    The Vikings may start a QB who isn’t even on the roster yet next week. The Raiders should trade them Boller for Favre right now.

  • McRaider5150

    I just wonder how a check down artist who can’t throw the ball down the field is able to throw 79 passes to one WR and 50 to another in the same season???

    Just a question

  • inonewordraider

    http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_16851582?source=most_emailed&nclick_check=1

    I know you guys mentioned the article earlier, but this guy dislikes Al more than RMR

  • inonewordraider
  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Inonewordraider Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_16851582?source=most_emailed&nclick_check=1

    I know you guys mentioned the article earlier, but this guy dislikes Al more than RMR
    ——————————–
    You’re missing a huge point, if you think RMR is the only Al Davis critic in the world.

    You must not be local.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Kawakami is MR.

  • Raiders for life

    I just wonder how a check down artist who can’t throw the ball down the field is able to throw 79 passes to one WR and 50 to another in the same season???

    ##########

    Which WR has 79 completions?

    Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD

    Zach Miller 42 549 13.1 43 4
    Darren McFadden 39 437 11.2 67 3
    Louis Murphy 36 530 14.7 70 2
    Darrius Heyward-Bey 21 306 14.6 69 1
    Marcel Reece 21 252 12.0 51 2
    Jacoby Ford 19 367 19.3 52 2
    Michael Bush 11 145 13.2 55 0
    Johnnie Lee Higgins 10 103 10.3 26 0
    Brandon Myers 10 69 6.9 16 0
    Nick Miller 3 40 13.3 32 0
    Khalif Barnes 2 8 4.0 6 1
    Michael Bennett 2 9 4.5 6 0
    Yamon Figurs 2 17 8.5 11 0
    Rock Cartwright 1 10 10.0 10 0

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # McRaider5150 Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    I just wonder how a check down artist who can’t throw the ball down the field is able to throw 79 passes to one WR and 50 to another in the same season???

    Just a question
    ===================
    You confuse YAC with down the field.

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # A.B. Paine III Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Kawakami is MR.
    =============
    Many here say YOU are MR.
    Of course some here (the idiot Aig) says I am you.
    Other idiots here (MR) say I’m ricochet.
    Many say MR is a dozen or so current posters.

    who the hell is who?

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Sammy, I have been accused of being you also.

  • http://no_knuckleheads! 909RaiderLifer

    Jack DelRio sayin Raiders were playing dirty on Sunday.- – per, Vittorio @ sfgate.com

    WAKE UP! , Jerry..

  • inonewordraider
  • alex7

    McRaider, that’s not a high number of passes.

    79 and 50 to your top two WRs? With pro-bowlers on your O-line and a Pro-Bowl RB? Ehhhh.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    We should have known the Raiders were going to lose because they only had 4 penalties.

  • alex7

    JC was traded for a 4th round pick during his prime years.

    JC looks lost running a 2-minute drill even though he turns 30 next year.

    JC showed no fire when he was benched.

    Cable has to cajole JC to “cut it loose”. Remember he’s 30.

    Throughout his career, JC has struggled picking up the blitz and reading coverages.

    He is 26-39 lifetime.

    He’s not the one you build around long-term. Let it go. Focus on what QB we might be able to.

  • alex7

    If Jackson is made HC (I hope that’s not stretching him too thin, too soon), we can expect him to overhaul the WR position.

    He’s being given latitude already as an assistant, and I’m sure Davis – if he trusts him enough to hire him as a head coach – will trust him enough to bring in some real WRs and make this offense legit vs all comers, not only the softer D’s.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    JC showed no fire when he was benched.
    —————————–
    If he had “whined” about it, people would have been all over him.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    JC has a winning record this year. When’s the last time that happened?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Gradkowski, on the other hand get’s credit for losing.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Campbell has a 127 passer rating.

    The Defense gives up 31pts in the 2nd half, and Campbell’s the goat? Go figure, but………………this is america.

  • alex7

    KK, go beyond whining. Take ownership of your position and the team.

    Imagine any top QB being ok with being benched.

    Imagine the reaction of Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Rodgers, Ben, Favre, Ryan.

    All those guys have that “F.U” mentality that winning QBs almost always have.

    Hard to be passive, safe, timid, and yet want to slice the heck out of an opponents defense.

    So you get, instead, a lack of urgency in a two-minute drill, and a lack of killer instinct at the end of games.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    He handles the “benching” with class. Replaces Gradkowski, comes back and leads the team to 3 straight wins……

    But now, he didn’t whine enough about his benching?????????

  • alex7

    We’ve already admitted the defense and special teams is the goat. And honestly that lays at the feet of Davis for demanding a man-to-man defense that will constantly give up big runs just because of the positioning.

    But to start thinking “hey, this JC guy isn’t so bad” means you’re going to be stuck at 6-10 / 7-9 next year.

    Tell me anyone has confidence in JC beating a team like the Jets, Patriots, Packers, Bears, or Vikings next year.

    Yet he’ll be 30, so if he can’t do it now, or next year, he never will. So why not roll the dice on someone who soon may be good enough to win those games instead?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Imagine the reaction of Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Rodgers, Ben, Favre, Ryan.
    —————————
    He ain’t one of them, ok? How the Fawk, can he act like them? He’s not a tenured superstar

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Yet he’ll be 30, so if he can’t do it now, or next year, he never will. So why not roll the dice on someone who soon may be good enough to win those games instead?
    ——————————-
    Been rolling snake-eyes for years.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    You Fantasy Football/Madden Video Players………….It don’t work that way in real life.

  • GoodOle00

    Jerry said Mike Mitchell is a better hitter than tackler but je’s really improved in that category even since pre season. Much better player and a nice fit in big nickle.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    F*ck all y’all Campbell haters. He is the second best QB the Raiders have had in 20 years.

  • alex7

    KK, bringing in Aaron Brooks, Daunte Culpepper, and Jason Campbell isn’t exactly rolling the dice.

    It’s wishful thinking that someone else’s garbage will turn into a magical treat.

    I want a fiery leader regardless if they’re tenured stars or not. It’s a PRE-requisite to being a good NFL QB. Even shy Eli began barking a bit his 2nd and 3rd years in the league, according to teammates.

    You have to have passion to elevate other’s play, along with your own. Otherwise you’re just a guy who settles for whatever happens.

  • GoodOle00

    Don’t think the potential lock out and strike would give Davis pause if he wanted to go another direction at Coach.

    As it stands I think Cable and co. have earned another year.

    I wonder if we can keep Hue at OC or if another team in need of a HC next season (like DENVER) will steal him away?

  • GoodOle00

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    F*ck all y’all Campbell haters. He is the second best QB the Raiders have had in 20 years.

    ==============

    Pretty erratic but yeah, we’ve had some duds.

    Have to see if Campbell is always gonna be just this or if he can actually grow into the franchise guy some think he can be.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Alex7 Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    KK, bringing in Aaron Brooks, Daunte Culpepper, and Jason Campbell isn’t exactly rolling the dice.

    It’s wishful thinking that someone else’s garbage will turn into a magical treat.
    —————————-
    Then, what’s your point? If you only want fiery, go back to Gradkowski.

  • GoodOle00

    385. Agreed.

    F’in Jawhatshisface hurt bad.

    IF he’d not been the one #1 to f over the NFL and take the money and run we’d be sittin pretty good right now.

    If Russell had even tried, with our ground game and “the next John Elway” we’d be pretty far along.

  • alex7

    AB, that’s the exact definition of settling.

    Quote from Redskin blog last year.

    “Essentially, the Redskins have a winning record since Campbell was drafted, so long as Jason isn’t starting.

    They perform better, with more points and convincing victories and wins against playoff contenders (10+) and better than average teams (.500 plus.)”

    JC loses a lot. He’s 30. Nothing’s going to magically change him into a guy that can beat top teams.

  • alex7

    KK, my point is that if too many people think like you, and think JC is “good enough” despite his 40% career wins, and his age, then we’re stuck at 7-9 for the next few years.

    My point is, too many people don’t see the obvious need to keep rolling the dice until you get the right QB, instead of settling for sub-mediocrity and yet expect to contend.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Campbell getting called out for not bishing about his benching, is the most outrageous crap I’ve heard in awhile.

    If he had…….he would have been rhetorically “lynched” on this board, for being uppity, or some other racial codewords.

  • alex7

    Giants had Kurt Warner, and went for Eli Manning.

    That’s called not settling.

    Chargers had Drew Brees and drafted Philip Rivers due to Brees possible injury.

    That’s called not settling.

    Packers/Favre/Rodgers draft. Again, you keep rolling the dice on QBs. That’s not a position you ever stop trying to score big with when your starter is either old, not that good, injury-prone, whatever.

    Just hope we keep trying to find one either in the draft or free agency and we don’t settle for sending JC to the wolves against the NFC North next year.

  • alex7

    KK, you know that goes with his passive attitude.

    And you also know, you have to also know, that his passive attitude is part of the reason he can’t handle pressure (scouts/coaches words).

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Yet he’ll be 30, so if he can’t do it now, or next year, he never will. So why not roll the dice on someone who soon may be good enough to win those games instead?
    ——————————-
    Been rolling snake-eyes for years.
    ________________________________________________________

    how much success did Gannon have before he arrived in Oakland? and how old was he?

    btw Gannon was 33

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Alex7, I think you have forgotten what team you are a fan of. The Raiders are not go and get that big time QB you want. It aint going to happen as long as Al is in charge. He doesn’t believe in developing young QBs. Davis was burned by Russell. Do you really think he is going to go that route again. It is going to be retreads, retreads, and more retreads. Maybe he can go out and get Kolb, but I doubt it.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Campbell would have been called every big-mouthed derogatory euphemistic name for a black man as imaginable by the tards on this board.

  • alex7

    Gannon hadn’t started even 4 years worth of games yet.

    Campbell has started 6 and a half. We KNOW what he is.

    Gannon, due to being a backup so long, was an unknown quantity.

    In fact, he’d shown an ability in KC to MAKE PLAYS and win games. There’s a reason a smart coach like Gruden wanted him.

    As for Campbell? His OWN coach admits he wilts under pressure, as if he’s some rookie.

    Don’t compare those two guys. Apples and oranges as far as games started / legit film on them / leadership.

  • inonewordraider

    sasha for joe smith

  • alex7

    KK, regardless of what you think Campbell would have been called, it doesn’t change the FACT that his passive attitude is part of his losing record DNA.

    Traded for a 4th rounder during his prime years.

    Why? Nice stats, can’t win enough, wilts in pressure, too passive to overcome pressure.