Could be a sloppy track Sunday
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 14th, 2010 at 7:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Local television weather reports are forecasting a “major weather event” for the weekend.
Apparently it could rain hard Friday and Saturday and in to Sunday, meaning the Broncos-Raiders game could be played in the most slop since the 2002 season finale against Kansas City.
A few things worth noting:
– Might be a better rushing day for Michael Bush than Darren McFadden, considering McFadden has likely played on mostly artificial surfaces as a Southeastern Conference star. Bush is more nimble than he looks, but might better play the role of the heavy-footed plodder.
– A slightly wet field is good for the passing game since the receivers know where they’re going and defenders are reacting. If it’s really bad, it might mean a heavy dose of Tim Tebow as a running quarterback. Interim coach Eric Studesville has already committed to Kyle Orton as the starter against Oakland.
– A forecast of heavy rain makes it a virtual slam dunk there will be no local television (although that dunk probably has already been slammed).
– Regardless of how the weather changes strategies, it shouldn’t have much of an effect on the end result. The Broncos have been off-the-charts awful for the last two weeks and I’m guessing the Raiders will be suitably angered by the one that just got away.
– Loved an honest response by Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio, who told Jaguars beat writers about Mike Mitchell’s extra-curricular activities with Kasim Osgood, but when asked if that was exactly the kind of football he would have cheered as a Raiders fan in his youth, said, “That’s very true. I’ve been a player and had that stuff happen. So I understand that stuff.”
Osgood is one of the league’s better special teams players, and one of the real treats about watching a game in person is watching how players of his caliber are attacked on special teams.
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December 14th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Go Raiders
December 14th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
What is Scabkowski’s MO???
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That he gets hurt. And wholy bat crap it happened didn’t it?
With JC his is playing up/down to his opponents, compiling above-average stats in a loss, and playing meaningless football games in week 16 and 17.
And that will happen again won’t it as well?
BTW, what’s Jamarcus’ MO since we are on the subject? Getting arrested for having a flop house of drug-addicts, playing historically awful football, and being beat out by Patrick Ramsey in mid-season camp invitiations?
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That he gets hurt??? That’s all you have to say?? We get this elaborate synopsis of JC’s shortcomings and all you can say about Grads is that he gets hurt?? So he’s a great QB, he just gets hurt, right?? LOL!! I knew you weren’t over your man crush. What is it, the “American terrorist” look??
December 14th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
How many kickoff returns for a TD have we given up this year?
Just the one in the game we got every break imaginable!!!
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Not that I would call a kickoff return for a TD a break, but since you asked, how about Brucey getting spotted 7 pts. when Jacoby returned the opening kickoff against Miami?? And we still got blown out!!!! LOL!
December 14th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I’m sure DHB will have no problem hanging on to a wet football.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
# RaidingTexas Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Apology accepted, man! Sorry if I came off harsh about it. Just getting tired of this Jason bashing stuff. We have no alternative at the moment, so I can only hope he plays well down the stretch and give us a glimmer of hope.
Later!
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true, and no you didnt, I was just a bit too stupid to read what you meant..
Yeah JC is what we got, we better “suit” up behind him!
that said I think we should go get Volek during FA..
December 14th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Doubt we have to worry about that as our QB doesn’t usually throw to his WRs and looks even less towards him.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
The bad weather is what I love,..I will be so drunk, stoned, and loaded on pills…wont matter,…hope theres a monsoon,…bring it on.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Im smugglin in a bottle of booze to keep me drunk during the game,..when its real rainy, the security people at the gates barely even pat you down,…I love it.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Why does everyone get so upset when DHB drops a pass(and rightfully so) yet never mentions it when Ford and alligator arms Murphy drops one? To be honest,none of our WRs are anything special and they all deserve our wrath,not just DHB.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
yo
December 14th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
– Loved an honest response by Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio, who told Jaguars beat writers about Mike Mitchell’s extra-curricular activities with Kasim Osgood, but when asked if that was exactly the kind of football he would have cheered as a Raiders fan in his youth, said, “That’s very true. I’ve been a player and had that stuff happen. So I understand that stuff.”
Osgood is one of the league’s better special teams players, and one of the real treats about watching a game in person is watching how players of his caliber are attacked on special teams.
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what happened?
December 14th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Ya Bush,..I dont know what theyre talkin bout either,…was there a fight?
December 14th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Norco Bob Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Ya Bush,..I dont know what theyre talkin bout either,…was there a fight?
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that’s my guess, maybe Jerry will explain more in another post. I wonder if Mitchell laid him out?
December 14th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Derrick Burgess signed by Eagles
December 14th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Hope Cassell doesn’t play this weekend.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
regarding the rain, why on earth dont they cover the field like they do at the Wimbledon during hard rain, and let the drainage at the side take care of the heavy load of water? is so logical its hard for the raiders to imagine or whats the problem?
I dont understand why they dont try to make a better field for their players when its such an important thing to the game..
a few years ago when the field at Wimbley was horrid all cried and moaned about playing in england, but fact was as the NFL clearly illustrated the field was better than it is in Pittsburgh or at Lambeau..
for our small part of sports we have drainage in the field, and its headed so its not dead hard during november and december..
I simply dont understand why and how they turf is getting so little attention when it is so big part of the game…
December 14th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
They do cover the field,..its covered just up until about 90 minutes before kickoff,….that info is for those who cant cut it in America and run off to find a job because they are losers.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
In a Thursday interview with NFL Network, Vincent Jackson said that there’s still a chance he could re-sign with the Chargers in 2011.
“It’s definitely one of the options on the board right now,” said Jackson. “I’m excited to be playing again in this uniform, and I’m going to give this team, this city everything I got.” V-Jax will go where the money is greatest, and all signs from GM A.J. Smith suggest he’s unwilling to pay a premium for a wide receiver. We wouldn’t count on Jackson coming back to San Diego, but stranger things have happened.
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Sign him next year!
December 14th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
*is it so logical…
*why and how the turf..
December 14th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
•New battle cry for Raiders: ‘Go Niners!’
December 14th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
They do cover the field,..its covered just up until about 90 minutes before kickoff,….that info is for those who cant cut it in America and run off to find a job because they are losers.
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then why is the raid a problem, if its covered until gameday?
December 14th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
LMN,
Because football is not tennis, and the seasons and conditions are a big part of what makes football what it is at the most pivotal point in the season. For example, home field advantage is huge in the playoffs, and it ain’t just about the crowd.
BTW, I don’t know if you know this, but field level at the Oakland Mausoleum is actually below sea level. The Raiders in their glory years were great mudders, so much so that opposing teams used to accuse Al Davis of soaking the field before games.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
2011 QB Dept chart:
Jason Campbell
Matt Leinart
Rookie Draft Pick
December 14th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Raiderdebo:::::
campbell sucks period. One I admit really good game Sunday. Until we got the ball back um remember how he ran the two minute offense. With the game on the line I may add. A time to show raider nation he may be the answer long term. He choked. Game over. Owski, Campbell, Campbell, owski. How about niether.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
2011 QB Dept chart:
Jason Campbell
Matt Leinart
Rookie Draft Pick
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Campbell
Kolb
Rookie
December 14th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
# edward teach Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
LMN,
Because football is not tennis, and the seasons and conditions are a big part of what makes football what it is at the most pivotal point in the season. For example, home field advantage is huge in the playoffs, and it ain’t just about the crowd.
BTW, I don’t know if you know this, but field level at the Oakland Mausoleum is actually below sea level. The Raiders in their glory years were great mudders, so much so that opposing teams used to accuse Al Davis of soaking the field before games.
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1st mausoleum LOL
2nd… not good enough… and not true… maybe in the 60’s…. why did Dallas have a dome? because the sun was too harsh on the field, why does Minnesota have a dome? or had, why does Detroit, Atlanta New Orleans all play indoor? why does all modern field have retractable roofs?
BECAUSE they are cleaver team that value the turp the game is played on… we on the other hand has dirt all over the field for half our season and funny enough lose those almost every time..
December 14th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
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# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
2011 QB Dept chart:
Jason Campbell
Matt Leinart
Rookie Draft Pick
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Campbell
Kolb
Rookie
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Volek
Campbell
Frye
Rookie
December 14th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
*clever teams…
December 14th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
HB-as someone who was born and raised in the bay and with the knowledge that even if we were to make the playoffs the probability of us going very far is remote,There is no way in he!! I could ever say “Go Whiners”-EVER.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
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# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
504 Raider Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
2011 QB Dept chart:
Jason Campbell
Matt Leinart
Rookie Draft Pick
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Campbell
Kolb
Rookie
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Volek
Campbell
Frye
Rookie
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Not so sure Volek is the man for the full time job, take him as back up though.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
504,
Matt Leinart can’t even get the ball to Larry Fitzgerald and Steve Breaston. What on earth makes you think he could get it to Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Darrius Heyward-Bey?
December 14th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
HB-as someone who was born and raised in the bay and with the knowledge that even if we were to make the playoffs the probability of us going very far is remote,There is no way in he!! I could ever say “Go Whiners”-EVER.
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I bleed silver and black bro. I didn’t want to cheer for the chargers last week. I agree even if we did make the playoffs we wouldn’t go deep, but man it would be a nice change of pace after the seasons we have been thru. Unfortunetley I will cheer for the niners this week holding on to the slim hope we have. Go Raiders!
December 14th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
The truth is youre a weak little punk, ran away, couldnt cut it here,..and yet you seem to give a F about the turf in Oakland,..mind your own business you weak punk…you ran away, like all sissies do…enjoy soccer you flamer….and if you want to visit Sweden, you will need written permission from that 60 year old jerry curl….he owns it.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Not so sure Volek is the man for the full time job, take him as back up though.
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he is among only 5 players to pass for +400 yds back to back Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Phil Simms and Matt Cassel..
I like him a lot, he is everything I want in a qb.. been in the game, been cheated for a starting job, old been a backup for long enough to have excessive hunger to be ‘the guy’
well a Gannon if you will…
December 14th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Norco, you are a weak little punk who runs away from his problems by indulging in drugs. Why don’t you man up and put down the bottle.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Norco, you are nothing but a pansy.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Brian is madder then heck with me,…but Im wearing my dead dads niner jersey tomorrow night…its a Joe Montana,..I have no prob at all rooting for them tomorrow night,..I will take it further,..I have never hated the Niners,…most in my family were and are Niner fans,…its Denver that I hate the most,…the Niners dont bother me.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
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December 14th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Norco..
man if you just knew how funny you are… and how wrong you are, then it would be great, but well ilinformed and ignorant is just not a great combo, then add all the pills and you have toxic c0kctail
December 14th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Paine,..as I tell everyone here,..Im in A lot,..tailgating, every game,..come by and say hello,…bring booze.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Last week’s flurry of speculation had ‘Monday Night Football’ analyst Jon Gruden going to the University of Miami. But that was never a possibility, said Fox NFL reporter Jay Glazer Sunday, who threw out another Gruden scenario: “He was never going to the University of Miami. I think he wanted it out there. … One place he’s linked to is the San Francisco 49ers.”
– Michael Hiestand
http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-s…ancisco-49ers/
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hope that’s not true!
December 14th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
dorko bob..
what with you and sweden?
December 14th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Top two players in the league in fumbles recovered. Mcnabb 8 – Campbell 5 um I wonder why that is.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
LMN,
1. Green Bay. Chicago. New England. Pittsburgh. New York (New Jersey, actually).
Those teams play for home field advantage in the playoffs because the conditions help them, and warm weather teams (and domed stadium ones as well) play for home field in part because they don’t want to play in those places when the real money’s on the line.
2. Mausoleum is not my term, altough I like it. Sal Bando coined that one while with the A’s back in the day, partly because it’s a vast gray concrete structure, and also because even in their heyday the place was virtually empty during the regular season. My mom’s office had season tickets in those days and you could go to a night game during the week and literally hear people’s conversations while sitting several seats away from you.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Paine I dont what row Im in until we get there…but if you feel like mouthing off to me in person Im sure you can find me,..A lot,..parking pass lot….I will describe the cars and easy up,..easily can find me.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Norco Bob Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Paine,..as I tell everyone here,..Im in A lot,..tailgating, every game,..come by and say hello,…bring booze.
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I will be there next season.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
HB-go for it.I can’t and to be honest can’t see a Raider fan rooting for them.Don’t get me wrong,I’m not questioning you,I just can’t do it.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
The more mud the better, in the old days it was part of our idenity,
Be good to bring that back and learn to win in mud.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Not so sure Volek is the man for the full time job, take him as back up though.
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he is among only 5 players to pass for +400 yds back to back Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Phil Simms and Matt Cassel..
I like him a lot, he is everything I want in a qb.. been in the game, been cheated for a starting job, old been a backup for long enough to have excessive hunger to be ‘the guy’
well a Gannon if you will…
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I have no problem bringing him in for competition, but I wouldn’t just hand him the job. I would like to know the details behind those 400 yard games, were some of those yards “garbge time” yards? I don’t think any of us have really seen enough of him to annoint (sp?) him our immediate starter. You do have some valid points to consider.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
HB-go for it.I can’t and to be honest can’t see a Raider fan rooting for them.Don’t get me wrong,I’m not questioning you,I just can’t do it.
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I don’t live in Cali so the hatred toward the niners doesn’t hit me quite like someone that is local. I’m sure if I lived there I would probaly be more adament about never cheering for them. Anyways hopefully one way or another the Raiders find a way to end the season on a high note.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
HB-go for it.I can’t and to be honest can’t see a Raider fan rooting for them.Don’t get me wrong,I’m not questioning you,I just can’t do it.
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I don’t live in Cali so the hatred toward the niners doesn’t hit me quite like someone that is local. I’m sure if I lived there I would probaly be more adament about never cheering for them. Anyways hopefully one way or another the Raiders find a way to end the season on a high note.
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Lefty I too well understand why its like flour in ones mouth to root for the ‘9ers, but I feel as HB, I never lived there so I dont have the same local hatred, in fact I hate steelers and Patriot more than the 9ers…
December 14th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
With three weeks left, 23 teams still alive for playoffs.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
HB-have to hope Cinn.at home can get the job done or the Donkeys at home in a division game pulls the upset.If we win,I wouldn’t mind the donkeys winning,they’ll still finish below us.Also,a whiner loss knocks them out of the race.Nothing could be worse than having them win their div.especially after we gave them the game this year.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
LMN-that is SteAlers because the officials usually rob their opponent in most big,make that any,game.I hear what you guys are saying,but it would be better if the whiners lose this week and SD loses in one of the following weeks-IMO.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
HB-have to hope Cinn.at home can get the job done or the Donkeys at home in a division game pulls the upset.If we win,I wouldn’t mind the donkeys winning,they’ll still finish below us.Also,a whiner loss knocks them out of the race.Nothing could be worse than having them win their div.especially after we gave them the game this year.
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before the year started and I looked at the schedule, I was like SD/Cin will be a good game. Well as it turns out Cin is so bad they got removed from the sunday night game. I hope they play the role of spoiler, what happened to the Bungles anyways? It’s not like they have a bad team. (or so I thought)
December 14th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Not so sure Volek is the man for the full time job, take him as back up though.
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he is among only 5 players to pass for +400 yds back to back Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Phil Simms and Matt Cassel..
I like him a lot, he is everything I want in a qb.. been in the game, been cheated for a starting job, old been a backup for long enough to have excessive hunger to be ‘the guy’
well a Gannon if you will…
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I have no problem bringing him in for competition, but I wouldn’t just hand him the job. I would like to know the details behind those 400 yard games, were some of those yards “garbge time” yards? I don’t think any of us have really seen enough of him to annoint (sp?) him our immediate starter. You do have some valid points to consider.
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well to anoint him as starter is maybe a bit too quickly, but as mentioned he has everything I want in a QB.. seasoned, hungry, arm and as Gannon said a hungry backup getting a starting position is like a volcano..
December 14th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
1st place schedule-lousy coach-plus with TO and Chad chaos should have been expected.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
with TO and Chad chaos should have been expected.
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What do you think, more time on football, less on VH1?
December 14th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
LMN-I think bringing him in or at least offering him a chance is a good idea.He knows he’ll never get a shot where he is and he could turn out.But could you hear the out-roar and complaining if he was to start over JC and we didn’t win every game.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
I wonder if RoMac’s injuries are going to be the type that are going to linger thru out his career…Hope not.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
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# lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
LMN-that is SteAlers because the officials usually rob their opponent in most big,make that any,game.I hear what you guys are saying,but it would be better if the whiners lose this week and SD loses in one of the following weeks-IMO.
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LOL yeah after last years win I wrote steAlers by mere accident, but kept it going through the year because it was the only upside to the season..
yeah we need Rams, 9′ers to win… this is quite funny, because Rams was during their LA years something to hate as well..
that said I can root for any team as long it means teh raiders goes to the PO
December 14th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
LMN-I think bringing him in or at least offering him a chance is a good idea.He knows he’ll never get a shot where he is and he could turn out.But could you hear the out-roar and complaining if he was to start over JC and we didn’t win every game.
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oh yeah, problem is, Im behind JC for the rest of the sean, well we are more or less forced to be..
but I dont think Hue is a JC guy, and QB’s greates advocate should always be the OC, not the HC, in this case none of them are truly behind JC, but just tries to work it out..
December 14th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
HB-can you imagine poor Palmer with both of those guys in his ear.There were reports earlier this year Chad was unhappy because he wasn’t getting the ball enough.Two diva WRs on one team must wear on the QB.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
HB-can you imagine poor Palmer with both of those guys in his ear.There were reports earlier this year Chad was unhappy because he wasn’t getting the ball enough.Two diva WRs on one team must wear on the QB.
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I can only imagine having those guys whine on a weekly basis. Carson is probaly on suicide watch.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Carson is probaly on suicide watch.
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As is his career, lol
December 14th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
night all, keep tyrone montgomery in your prayers tonite
December 14th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
LMN-Raider vs Rams never bothered me because I never considered the Raiders a lala team.In fact due to the division they are in,I root for the Rams.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Carson is probaly on suicide watch.
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As is his career, lol
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Bwahhaha LOL, yeah I still think a change of environment he will sparkle again…
December 14th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
LMN-agreed!
December 14th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
LMN-Raider vs Rams never bothered me because I never considered the Raiders a lala team.In fact due to the division they are in,I root for the Rams.
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well.. I have a rule if a team wears gold pants you gotta hate’em… call it a golden rule if you will HAh Hah oh no I didnt, man its great im heading home soon..
well golden pants or a purple color in the uniform and they goes on my NONO-list
December 14th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Whiners wear gold pants!
December 14th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
# HairyBush Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
night all, keep tyrone montgomery in your prayers tonite
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yeah Im out off here soon too…
whats up with Tyrone, since he need our prayers?
December 14th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Whiners wear gold pants!
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and that has more to do why I hate them than where they are located =)
December 14th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Good enough!
December 14th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Dumb marshall:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d81ce913a/Playbook-Raiders-vs-Jaguars
December 14th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
well if Tyrone needs my prayers I’ll do them, any raider in need of prayers get’em…
I still cant find anything about why he needs them…
well thats it for me, my replacement just arrived, 1½ day left and i’ve got 6 days off…
take care guys…
December 14th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Average QB’s are always available, sometimes even for a measely 4th round pick.
But better-than-average to great QB’s are almost impossible to find.
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What round did they find Brady in?
You have to be able to support good QB play. Teaching, Scheme, Continuity.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
An Autumn Thunderstorm is about to beat down the Broncos on Sunday.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Raiders better not be looking towards the Colts coming into town next weekend, focus on Denver.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
A monsoon……….damn again these bastards play on my bday weekend and its pouring…..well that last one in 2008 they won. Can I get another gift guys?
December 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Average QB’s are always available, sometimes even for a measely 4th round pick.
But better-than-average to great QB’s are almost impossible to find.
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What round did they find Brady in?
You have to be able to support good QB play. Teaching, Scheme, Continuity.
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I agree Michael
December 14th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
SD will smash SF….yall might as well look for Cincy on SNF if ya wanting a SD loss….it will be a cold night right after xmas….and you never know if Denver would love to spoil their season…just saying
December 15th, 2010 at 1:10 am
Al was right, gradkowski stinks and should have never seen the field while jc was healthy. cable should be glad he has Davis to save him from his own waffling and embarrassing us fruther.
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Ok Mystique 1 Supah Villan-
That’s pretty funny, but I’m gonna try and level the playing field here without going in to career stats and stuff. Just my take on the JC vs Grad wheel.
JC had the job game 1 ve Tenn. Was awful. Flat-out -brutal.
Game 2, come half time, Cable pushes the panic button,
probabaly a few other things too, Hue pushes the panic button, Cable is sweatin thinkin he may get a pink slip, Hue may be thinkin they got JRII, who knows, so they make the switch. You know the results.
AZ, say all you want about the time out at the goal line, wasn’t a good move, but Jani gets the loss. Alba could have been the QB that day,
http://img7.pimp-my-profile.com/i89/4/4/10/bn_9d16da1950.png
Jani blew it.
Houston, a 1 score loss.
STD, A marvelous day for the D and special teams, and yes, very good drives by JC at the end.
0-fer niner game, panic time again.
Denver was a result of some heart attack serious corn hole reaming from the boss, heard through out Raiderdom. Campbell had the luxury of a pissed off defense, sts’ and a very quick lead. Found his comfort zone.
Hawks, Campbell had the support a fired up defense, and himself played ok.
Now, here is where Cable the mouth piece as opposed to Cable the coach made a mistake. All along he had been saying Grad was going to be the starter once healthy. What he should have said was ‘I have two quarterbacks who will battle it out in practice like two hungry wolves over one piece of meat’. Campbell made the mistake of taking it personal, and rightly so, but this league is for tougher guys.
KC, shined in the last minute of the game, and Ford saved his bacon too.
No excuses for the Pitt loss. He’s a pro. Grad came in, to little to late, but at least he had some spunk.
Miami, well, Grad had his shot and did not make the most of it.
Another outbreak of anger rocks Raiderdom, and I won’t go into the details of the eruption as I have told you before what took place, and Jason has a good game vs STD.
Last Sunday Cable said it best about JC, but the lack of the bite and crunch time overshadows his game management skills.
So between you and me, JC looked uncomfortable to say the least at the beginning of the season. He can be up or down like this team can, but he looked pretty good Sunday, still playing it safe, but none the less, looked good, til the last 2 minutes. That’s when you need a take charge QB. In Grads defense, he showed rythum, tempo, ability to scramble, take charge and seemed to step up the rest of the team. Too bad he is not blessed with the physical attributes JC has.
I’ve never bagged on JC, just thought he was a bust like every qb we’ve had since Gannon. But I will give him credit where credits due, and he is our qb now, and he needs to crap or get off the pot. Hopefully, he’ll see the last three games as his time to make a statement. And if late in this season is indicative of Campells progression, then he could be pretty good.
Saying Grad should have never seen the field is a stretch, but Campbell has the ball now and lets hope he can handle it.
Raiders 51
Denver 3
December 15th, 2010 at 1:45 am
QB or not QB?
Might have beens, what is and what may be when it comes to the Raiders QB…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives/exclusives_20
December 15th, 2010 at 4:56 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Raiders better not be looking towards the Colts coming into town next weekend, focus on Denver.
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If thers only one thing Cable is really good at, it’s getting this team ready for divisional games.
Raiders 42 – 7.
December 15th, 2010 at 5:43 am
If it’s really bad, it might mean a heavy dose of Tim Tebow as a running quarterback.
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Please, please, please let the Raiders see a heavy dose of Tebow. Let’s teach him what RoMac’s already learned: the SEC ain’t the NFL.
Raiders 45 – Donkeys 17
Mornin’ Nation.
December 15th, 2010 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
So its gonna storm on Sunday…well, it stormed when we played KC…My pants were soaked and it was just awful until the 4th qtr…but, win, lose, or tie…rain or shine…I will be there!
December 15th, 2010 at 5:48 am
I live in the Washington DC area and when Jason Campbell was the Redskins quarterback he had a different head coach or offensive coordinator every single year he has been in the NFL. I think he could be a really good quarterback if he was in the same system for three years. When you got to learn a new playbook every year, you are going to struggle. I don’t care if you are superman. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Ben Rothelsburger had the same head coach or offensive coordinator their whole career. That’s why they are successful.
December 15th, 2010 at 5:59 am
I agree with you on that…however, Al has to keep the team together…although quite possible, I think Al did smell playoffs and may have a different idea. I hope he doesn’t and keeps the team together! The Raiders are finally on to something…anything other than continuity could be a set back! Key word here…could
December 15th, 2010 at 6:04 am
Oh yeah…I cannot cheer for the Niners either! Growing up in Hawaii, I didn’t mind them (its also my dad’s team)…but since I moved to the Bay…there fans has to be…well, not going to rant about them on here, but I have changed my mind and will NEVER root for them! But here’s the thing…I don’t like SD either…hmmm…
Just venting guys…good morning!
December 15th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Maybe Campbell could keep his HC or OC from year to year if he didn’t help them get fired.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:34 am
good morning nation!
you guys hear the report on tebow saying he’s not scared of the black hole?
I wish he starts and have our defense knock him around like a rag doll!
December 15th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Ben Rothelsburger had the same head coach or offensive coordinator their whole career
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Not true.
Granted, they have had much more stability than Jason.
Ben has won two Super Bowls with two different HC’s and OC’s, Peyton has changed coaches, and the Patriots never even hired an OC after McDaniels left. I think Brady is the de facto OC as well.
Eli Manning won his super bowl in his first year working with Kevin Gilbride, the new OC that year.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Just picking up where I left off last night, lol.
Good morning Nation!!!
Rain usually means very physical games with lots of big-hits. Ball-carriers don’t have as much wiggle and elusiveness, to not only break tackles, but avoid getting squared up.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Man Denver really havent been lucky with their DBs off the field.. Cox might go to Jail..
December 15th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Thugs will be thugs LMN.
Cox had off the field issues coming into the league, and Darrent Williams was a known Crip.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:55 am
the tough talking ones somehow never live nearby, or ever go to a game,…lol.
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LOL!
December 15th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Loved DelRio’s comment about DMAC. “The guys on the field who are fast enough to catch him, arent strong enough to bring him down.”
December 15th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Ben Rothelsburger had the same head coach or offensive coordinator their whole career
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Not true.
Granted, they have had much more stability than Jason.
Ben has won two Super Bowls with two different HC’s and OC’s, Peyton has changed coaches, and the Patriots never even hired an OC after McDaniels left. I think Brady is the de facto OC as well.
Eli Manning won his super bowl in his first year working with Kevin Gilbride, the new OC that year.
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Just fire baby: Read the whole message. I said Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Eli Manning or Ben had the same Offensive Coodinator OR Head Coach each year.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Big Ben won a Super Bowl with Cowher and Wisenhunt, than won one with Tomlin and Arians.
Eli’s super bowl victory came in the first year of a new OC.
I will give you that there is more stability than what Campbell has faced. That is not debatable.
But to think you can’t excel as a team or QB unless you have the same HC and/or OC for 5 years is perposterous.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Apparently it could rain hard Friday and Saturday and in to Sunday, meaning the Broncos-Raiders game could be played in the most slop
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who cares? we already knew this game would come down to the same thing it always does … run the ball & stop the run!
McFadden & Bush versus Moreno & Buckhalter.
I’ll take Oakland.
Dirty Pirates 35
h0m0 horses 17
December 15th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Wouldn’t be suprised if the Denver coach plays Tebow for a few drives.
We will see what Jesus Tebow can do.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:13 am
92.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Ben Rothelsburger had the same head coach or offensive coordinator their whole career
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Not true.
Granted, they have had much more stability than Jason.
Ben has won two Super Bowls with two different HC’s and OC’s, Peyton has changed coaches, and the Patriots never even hired an OC after McDaniels left. I think Brady is the de facto OC as well.
Eli Manning won his super bowl in his first year working with Kevin Gilbride, the new OC that year.
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How bout putting it this way which is probably more accurate. Those guys may have had a couple changes in coaches but NOT a change of systems.
It was mentioned recently down here that Peyton Manning has played in 3 (systems) his whole life.
Newman High School
Tennessee Vols
Indy Colts
Just like Brady after McDaniels left, I also think Peyton is the defacto OC in Indy.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Tebow will play the entire second half, They will be down by 30+ points so it will be moot.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:13 am
We will see what Tebow can do
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nothing Orton can’t do. Kyle Orton has been a passing machine this year without Brandon Marshall or Tony Scheffler – who knew?
McDaniels drafted Tebow in the 1st round and McDaniels got fired, so there really isn’t any rush to get this guy on the field, is there?
As long as Orton is getting is done, Tebow can sit and absorb. Call it the Aaron Rodgers treatment. Something David Carr & Andrew Walter never got. Dungver is losing games due to crappy play calling and defensive meltdowns. Expect that trend to continue this week in Oakland.
When was the last time we swept the ponies, anyway?
December 15th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Maybe Campbell could keep his HC or OC from year to year if he didn’t help them get fired.
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LMAO. Good one, JFB.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:16 am
If Tebow plays I hope Seymour or Houston, rips that re-grown hair piece from the top of his head off.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:16 am
r8eray Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:34 am
good morning nation!
you guys hear the report on tebow saying he’s not scared of the black hole?
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Not til now, but that’s hilarious. They’ll make him cry by the 2nd quarter.
Can you imagine Tebow on the Raiders of the 70’s? Think of what would happen to him once guys like Matuszak, Stabler, Sistrunk, Atkinson, Tatum and Hendricks got ahold of him.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Tebow came in the first meeting for one play that resulted in a fumble for Denver…
December 15th, 2010 at 7:16 am
nothing Orton can’t do. Kyle Orton has been a passing machine this year without Brandon Marshall or Tony Scheffler – who knew?
McDaniels drafted Tebow in the 1st round and McDaniels got fired, so there really isn’t any rush to get this guy on the field, is there?
As long as Orton is getting is done, Tebow can sit and absorb. Call it the Aaron Rodgers treatment. Something David Carr & Andrew Walter never got. Dungver is losing games due to crappy play calling and defensive meltdowns. Expect that trend to continue this week in Oakland.
When was the last time we swept the ponies, anyway?
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Orton hasnt gotten it done the last 2 weeks. He has passed for 300 yards, 0 TDs and accounted for 8 turnovers (5 against AZ 3 INTS 2 Fumbles). Orton must have heard a who or something because the “passing machine” is broken!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:17 am
Bye Sasha! Thanks for that run back in 2008! You were key in getting to the finals that year.
Hello Joe Smith, not sure what you have left.
Hello 5.74 million dollar trade exemption…..Lakers better use it!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Orton must have heard a who
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LOL, nice play on words
December 15th, 2010 at 7:19 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Thugs will be thugs LMN.
Cox had off the field issues coming into the league, and Darrent Williams was a known Crip.
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hmm my recollection says there was a case or two between Williams and Cox
December 15th, 2010 at 7:19 am
No love in here for Oakland CC smacking up Tenn?
December 15th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Sasha got traded? Didn’t he hit two key FT’s last year in game 7 to just about seal the victory?
Oh well…sports is a business these days!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Big Ben won a Super Bowl with Cowher and Wisenhunt, than won one with Tomlin and Arians.
Eli’s super bowl victory came in the first year of a new OC.
I will give you that there is more stability than what Campbell has faced. That is not debatable.
But to think you can’t excel as a team or QB unless you have the same HC and/or OC for 5 years is perposterous
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Name one other starting quarerback in the NFL that has had a different playbook every single year they have been league. Most NFL playbooks are 4 inches thick with different terminology. It’s quite a bit of Math to learn.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Orton isn’t getting it done, that’s the problem (for them).
Orton in his lat two games is:
28-69, 293 yards, no TD’s, 5 turnovers, 5 sacks, about a 33 QB rating.
Not even sure why is starting this weekend.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Under the circumstances, I think Jason Campbell has done quite well.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:21 am
I think the fact that they’re not starting Tebow tells you all you need to know about his progress, or lack thereof, to date in being a full time NFL starter.
Same thing with Bruce Campbell still riding the pine, even though Carlisle is just awful.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Hello 5.74 million dollar trade exemption…..Lakers better use it!
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Yeah right!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:23 am
No love in here for Oakland CC smacking up Tenn?
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That would be Oakland, Michigan.
Maybe BSJ is stoked!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:24 am
have ANY players ever said they were scared or afraid of the Black Hole in the past 7 or 8 years?
you guys wishing injury on Tebow because of that are hilarious. probably has more to do with his outspoken choice of religion than those comments this week or even him sporting a donk jersey!
I’ll tell you what. If Al Davis had drafted Tim Tebow you guys would have been calling for him to play over all 3 of our QB’s at certain points this season …
no shortage of Campbell, Gradkowski or Boller haters in here, right?
December 15th, 2010 at 7:25 am
That would be Oakland, Michigan.
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LOL!
My bad.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Joe Smith…..another collossal dud of a draft pick by the Warriors.
Sasha and Farmar in the backcout together in New Jersey?? Probably not what Jay-Z had in mind.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:27 am
I’ll tell you what. If Al Davis had drafted Tim Tebow you guys would have been calling for him to play over all 3 of our QB’s at certain points this season …
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Thank goodness we will never know!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:27 am
Probably not what Jay-Z had in mind.
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Jhill > Jay-Z
Print That!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:27 am
RRS,
Maybe other people, but not me. If the Raiders had drafted Tebow, I would’ve wanted him to stay on the bench, where he belongs.
I’d roll with Jason Campbell til he’s 75 than want Tebow starting 1 game.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:29 am
I’m not quite sure what the difference is between Blake and Sasha. Should’ve just played Sasha.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Name one other starting quarterback in the NFL that has had a different playbook every single year they have been league. Most NFL playbooks are 4 inches thick with different terminology. It’s quite a bit of Math to learn.
If you got a new supervisor every year for the last 6 years and they come in and change everything you do in your daily work, you are going to struggle. I am going to rest this Jason Campbell case.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Why TY young man!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:33 am
If you want an amusing way to kill 10 or 15 minutes, read some of the old stuff here: http://twitter.com/whytebowsucks
December 15th, 2010 at 7:33 am
123.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Joe Smith…..another collossal dud of a draft pick by the Warriors.
Sasha and Farmar in the backcout together in New Jersey?? Probably not what Jay-Z had in mind.
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The trade gives the nets the Lakers 1st round pick….now the Nets have 3 first round picks that they can offer to Denver For Melo.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:35 am
The trade gives the nets the Lakers 1st round pick….now the Nets have 3 first round picks that they can offer to Denver For Melo.
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A-ha!!
Thank you, makes a tad more sense now.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Leave it to the white dude in South Dakota to straighten out us city folks on the inner-workings of NBA trades, lol.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Reggie,
No doubt it has hindered his growth in the league. I never was debating that.
I just don’t buy that as the be-all-end-all excuse. The Patriots could hire Tom Walsh as OC, and Brady would just audible out of 50% of it and go win Super Bowls still.
Either you are elite or you are not. Jason Campbell is not, plus he plays with the passion of a hooker on her last trick.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:38 am
I am going to rest this Jason Campbell case.
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Jason Campbell is one of those guys that will only be as good as the guys around him. Playing with a STUD RB like McFadden certainly has helped his case. Get Vincent Jackson in here next year, and you’ll really think Campbell is good.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Gradkowski has been in the league 5 years (with 4 different teams in the last 4 years)
career passing stats:
3883 yards, 20 TD’s, 23 INT’s. 53.2 completion percentage. 65.9 QB Rating. sacked 52 times. 121 passing yards per game
Boller has been in the league 8 years (with 3 different teams in the last 3 years)
career passing stats:
8765 yards, 48 TD’s, 51 INT’s. 56.7 completion percentage. 70.3 QB Rating. sacked 119 times. 139 passing yards per game
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if YOU PEOPLE dont think Tebow can have a better career, you’re out of your mind!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:40 am
I wanted to draft Tebow, I won’t lie.
But since we didn’t, time to rip his head off and mock his religion any chance we can.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Either you are elite or you are not. Jason Campbell is not, plus he plays with the passion of a hooker on her last trick.
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LOL. You’re on fire today.
Did you catch in Jerry’s chat yesterday the 3 or 4 times he made mention of the fact that instead of being fired up by a challenge from Gradkowski, Campbell looked like a bully had just knocked his ice cream cone out of his hand and stolen his bike?
Competition is supposed to rouse a competitor to fight harder, not make him sad and pouty.
Campbell is a full-grown man getting paid millions of dollars. He should not need his precious little feelings looked after.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:43 am
J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 7:38 am
I am going to rest this Jason Campbell case.
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Jason Campbell is one of those guys that will only be as good as the guys around him. Playing with a STUD RB like McFadden certainly has helped his case. Get Vincent Jackson in here next year, and you’ll really think Campbell is good.
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I agree J Hill.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:46 am
I’d roll with Jason Campbell til he’s 75 than want Tebow starting 1 game
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PA, I like Jason Campbell too!
… but that has nothing to do with other AFC West QB’s
December 15th, 2010 at 7:46 am
JFB and RRS = Tebow can be successful in the league guys?
I just don’t see it guys.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:48 am
PA,
I did read that, and that was the fuel this fire didn’t need.
And Jerry has always been in Jason’s corner from day one, so it must have been some real “woe-is-me” type of stuff.
Campbell would be a great fit in Baltimore or the Jets or something like that, where this is talent, stability and leadership already present.
There is not a lot of that stuff here, we need a fiery leader at QB who rises at the opportunity to compete and overcome challenges and obstacles.
Not guys who throw 12 yard passes on the last play of the game, when you need 37 yards, and than act all aw shucks about it.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:50 am
There is not a lot of that stuff here, we need a fiery leader at QB who rises at the opportunity to compete and overcome challenges and obstacles.
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We need a guy like Rivers. I hate the dude cuz hes a discharger, but THAT is the type of QB we need.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Pretty amazing that Tebow can break every Sugar Bowl passing record, and put up ridiculous stats in a BCS game, than 6 months later can’t even make an average NFL toss on a 10 yard out pattern.
Just goes to show how meaningless stats are at the collegiate level. When your 22 and bigger and stronger than everyone else, you can just punk the 19 and 20 year olds on the field.
There is not much punking of NFL LB’s and Safeties going on.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:52 am
To add to my point before the Scabkowski guys come out.
We need a fiery guy, with above-average NFL talent, who can also stay healthy.
Fire by itself, and talent by itself, won’t do us much good, unless we enjoy being 6-7 at this stage every year.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:52 am
we need a fiery leader at QB
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JFB,
Bruce is about as “fiery” as they come and he basically went 0-4 in 4 starts this year
I’ll pass. The team rallied around him last year because they were just glad to have JaWalrus benched. This year Grads went back to 3rd string journeyman level, hoping just to make a final 53 next season & hold a clipboard
December 15th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Pretty amazing that Tebow can break every Sugar Bowl passing record, and put up ridiculous stats in a BCS game, than 6 months later can’t even make an average NFL toss on a 10 yard out pattern.
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See also: Russell, JaMarcus
December 15th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Damn it…..knew it would come out.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:55 am
than 6 months later can’t even make an average NFL toss on a 10 yard out pattern.
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So why did you want to draft him again?
December 15th, 2010 at 7:55 am
banana bread & coffee … MMMMMMMMmmmmm
life is good
too bad I got a meeting in 5 minutes
GRRR
December 15th, 2010 at 7:56 am
So why did you want to draft him again?
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In case you haven’t noticed, I like guys with fire in their game.
It’s in my name.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
most of you fellas want Gruden back as HC and Jon G would have drafted Tebow in Round 1 or 2.
So … is he a better judge of QB talent than you guys or just another incompetent fool that Al Davis created and traded?
December 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Off to go save the world, one confused city worker at a time.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:59 am
RRS
Nice FFL lineup
December 15th, 2010 at 8:00 am
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/gruden-tebow-could-be-first-round-draft-pick.html
December 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Not caring about Tebow…if he comes in the game, that means Orton probably got hurt! Is Brady Quinn that bad that he lost his 2nd?
December 15th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Nice FFL lineup
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Dell,
hoping to get some Compensatory picks for the draft next year!
I’m going to SMASH lmn anyways. that guy will be crying uncle by Monday
December 15th, 2010 at 8:03 am
JFB,
I’m still not buying the “fiery” angle.
Improve the Oline and get Vincent Jackson in here to compliment McFadden and Bush and watch what happens with Campbell.
I’ll even go as far as saying do those things and Gardowski can lead this team to division wins year in and year out.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:05 am
RRS
Two of those guys I drafted.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:05 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 7:57 am
most of you fellas want Gruden back as HC and Jon G would have drafted Tebow in Round 1 or 2.
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He drafted Tui, so of course he would love Tebow.
Still searching for the next Gannon. He knew if he could turn an former S noodle arm QB like Gannon into something, he might be able to do something with Tebow.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:05 am
BBL. time to take care of bidness
December 15th, 2010 at 8:06 am
RRS
LMN (stealth euro) can withstand any lineup change you have. When it’s all said and done,he will be victorious.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:12 am
When Jay Shroeder played for the Raiders, he was “fiery” but he would through many interceptions at the end of games. As a matter a fact, I have a few “fiery” guys that work with me and they don’t know JACK. Dumb as a box of rocks. They are being “fiery” trying to impress the boss.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:19 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Not caring about Tebow…if he comes in the game, that means Orton probably got hurt! Is Brady Quinn that bad that he lost his 2nd?
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Tebow cant come in and run the Wilde Horse option if he is the third string QB. If your 3rd QB plays before the fourth quarter your other qbs cant return to the game.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I want this for x-mas!
http://common2.csnimages.com/lf/1/hash/7013/2664237/1/NFL_2BToaster_2B-_2BOakland_2BRaiders.jpg
December 15th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Why does everyone get so upset when DHB drops a pass(and rightfully so) yet never mentions it when Ford and alligator arms Murphy drops one? To be honest,none of our WRs are anything special and they all deserve our wrath,not just DHB.
True
December 15th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Do People realize that Gannon was successfull because he had 1 hell of an Oline and 2 HOF WR’s that new how to get open on any given play.
I rememeber Gannon having at least 4 to 5 to throw the ball on every play. This is why our deep routes always worked. The QB had the time to get the ball off. he also checked down alot. Garner had 91 receptions in 2002 year.
Now we
December 15th, 2010 at 8:33 am
So … is he a better judge of QB talent than you guys or just another incompetent fool that Al Davis created and traded?
I’ve mentioned it b4 but check the roster he had, it’d be hard not to win with these guys:
No Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp College
95 Adams, Sam DT 6-3 330 29 8 Texas A&M
93 Armstrong, Trace DE 6-4 275 36 14 Florida
70 Badger, Brad T 6-4 320 27 6 Stanford
50 Barton, Eric LB 6-2 245 24 4 Maryland
81 Brown, Tim WR 6-0 195 36 15 Notre Dame
94 Bryant, Tony DE 6-6 275 25 4 Florida State
31 Buchanon, Phillip CB 5-10 185 21 R Miami
90 Coleman, Kenyon DE 6-5 285 23 R UCLA
57 Coleman, Roderick DT 6-2 285 26 4 East Carolina
79 Collins, Mo G 6-4 325 25 5 Florida
43 Combs, Derek CB 6-0 195 23 2 Ohio State
75 Cooper, Chris DT 6-5 275 24 2 Nebraska-Omaha
32 Crockett, Zack RB 6-2 240 29 8 Florida State
33 Dorsett, Anthony S 5-11 205 28 7 Pittsburgh
89 Fulcher, Mondriel TE 6-3 250 25 3 Miami
12 Gannon, Rich QB 6-3 210 36 15 Delaware
25 Garner, Charlie RB 5-10 190 30 9 Tennessee
36 Gibson, Derrick S 6-2 215 23 2 Florida State
59 Grant, DeLawrence DE 6-3 280 22 2 Oregon State
58 Harris, Napoleon LB 6-2 255 23 R Northwestern
92 Ioane, Junior DT 6-4 320 25 3 Arizona State
20 James, Tory CB 6-2 190 29 7 LSU
11 Janikowski, Sebastian K 6-2 225 24 3 Florida State
82 Jett, James WR 5-10 170 31 10 West Virginia
41 Johnson, Eric S/LB 6-0 210 26 3 Nebraska
88 Jolley, Doug TE 6-4 250 23 R BYU
28 Jordan, Randy RB 5-11 220 32 9 North Carolina
72 Kennedy, Lincoln T 6-6 335 31 10 Washington
42 Kirby, Terry RB 6-1 225 32 10 Virginia
83 Knight, Marcus WR 6-1 180 24 2 Michigan
9 Lechler, Shane P 6-2 225 26 3 Texas A&M
38 Love, Clarence CS 5-10 180 26 3 Toledo
73 Middleton, Frank G 6-4 330 27 6 Arizona
3 Mirer, Rick QB 6-3 210 32 10 Notre Dame
97 Parrella, John DT 6-3 300 32 10 Nebraska
84 Porter, Jerry WR 6-2 220 24 3 West Virginia
80 Rice, Jerry WR 6-2 200 39 18 Mississippi Valley
40 Ritchie, Jon RB 6-1 250 27 5 Stanford
63 Robbins, Barret C 6-3 320 29 8 Texas Christian
53 Romanowski, Bill LB 6-4 245 36 15 Boston College
22 Shaw, Terrence CB 6-0 200 29 8 Stephen F. Austin
65 Sims, Barry T 6-5 300 27 4 Utah
78 Slaughter, Chad T 6-8 340 24 2 Alcorn State
56 Smith, Travian LB 6-4 240 27 5 Oklahoma
10 Stemke, Kevin P 6-3 190 23 2 Wisconsin
74 Stinchcomb, Matt T 6-6 310 25 4 Georgia
62 Treu, Adam C 6-5 300 28 6 Nebraska
8 Tuiasosopo, Marques QB 6-1 220 23 2 Washington
66 Walker, Langston T 6-8 345 22 R Cal
47 Wheatley, Tyrone RB 6-0 235 30 8 Michigan
86 Williams, Roland TE 6-5 265 27 6 Syracuse
24 Woodson, Charles CB 6-1 200 25 5 Michigan
26 Woodson, Rod S 6-0 205 37 15 Perdue
December 15th, 2010 at 8:36 am
167.McRaider5150 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Do People realize that Gannon was successfull because he had 1 hell of an Oline and 2 HOF WR’s that new how to get open on any given play.
I rememeber Gannon having at least 4 to 5 to throw the ball on every play. This is why our deep routes always worked. The QB had the time to get the ball off. he also checked down alot. Garner had 91 receptions in 2002 year.
Now we
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Gannon didn’t have Rice the entire time he was a Raider, or Garner for that matter…..for the majority of his Raider career Gannon was throwing to Tim Brown and then guys like James Jett, or some old washed up WR…
…and if you watched that video I posted of the comeback win vs the Jets, it sure didn’t look like Gannon had 4-5 seconds to throw the ball….Gannon had to scramble many times in order to make a play. Our o-line was certainly better than it is now, but was by no means great.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:37 am
166.inonewordraider Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Why does everyone get so upset when DHB drops a pass(and rightfully so) yet never mentions it when Ford and alligator arms Murphy drops one? To be honest,none of our WRs are anything special and they all deserve our wrath,not just DHB.
True
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When you are the 7th overall pick in the draft and have been paid like a HOF player expectations are a little higher my friend. That is life.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:44 am
…and if you watched that video I posted of the comeback win vs the Jets, it sure didn’t look like Gannon had 4-5 seconds to throw the ball.
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2 biggest throws he made were a 4th and 1 quick 3 yd out that Tim Brown turned into a big gain.
The other was another pass to Tim Brown that Brown had to adjust to, and then make another big play.
Both of those throw were quick throws were the Oline wasn’t even in play. Props to Jon Gruden for having 4 WRs in the game is what I say.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Speaking of Hall of Fame and wide receivers…the fact that Cliff Branch isn’t in is a complete farce.
Branch: 501 catches, 8,685 yards, 67 TDs
Lynn Swann, who IS in the HoF: 336 catches, 5,462 yards, 51 TDs
So why isn’t Branch in already?
I get Jerry’s point that a lot of voters deny Brown entry because the thought is that he was a good player on a bad team and someone had to get the stats. I don’t agree with it, but I see the point.
But Branch was competing for catches with two other Hall of Famers in Biletnkoff and Casper for much of his career and still put up gaudy stats.
It’s a travesty.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:36 am
December 15th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Do People realize that Gannon was successfull because he had 1 hell of an Oline and 2 HOF WR’s that new how to get open on any given play.
I rememeber Gannon having at least 4 to 5 to throw the ball on every play. This is why our deep routes always worked. The QB had the time to get the ball off. he also checked down alot. Garner had 91 receptions in 2002 year.
Now we
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Gannon didn’t have Rice the entire time he was a Raider, or Garner for that matter…..for the majority of his Raider career Gannon was throwing to Tim Brown and then guys like James Jett, or some old washed up WR…
…and if you watched that video I posted of the comeback win vs the Jets, it sure didn’t look like Gannon had 4-5 seconds to throw the ball….Gannon had to scramble many times in order to make a play. Our o-line was certainly better than it is now, but was by no means great.
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For Gannon’s 4 full years as a starter, he had jerry for 2 years and Tim for 4. The raiders had one the best olines in the game for most of those years. Gannon was a scrambling QB, but the line gave him plenty of time to find a WR
December 15th, 2010 at 8:48 am
BTW right now, we have nothing remotely close the Tim Brown or Jerry Rice
December 15th, 2010 at 8:48 am
J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 7:29 am
I’m not quite sure what the difference is between Blake and Sasha. Should’ve just played Sasha.
No way man. I thank Sasha for his services but his best quality on O is his 3 point shots and Blake is more consistent a 3 point shooter with more all around offensive game plus a better defender
December 15th, 2010 at 8:49 am
McRaider5150 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:48 am
BTW right now, we have nothing remotely close the Tim Brown or Jerry Rice
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Understatement of the year right here.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:49 am
McRaider5150,
So what are you trying to say? That if you placed Jason Campbell in the same offense Gannon had Campbell would be as good or better than Gannon was?
If so you are nucking futz!
December 15th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Blake is more consistent a 3 point shooter with more all around offensive game plus a better defender
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I agree witht that, but in the triangle with the dominant players we have, Blake will never be anything but a spot up shooter. Give Sasha 20 minutes a game, and I doubt you see MUCH of a difference.
Sasha is 6′7 and a pesky defender.
Probably just homering for the young guy, but I think Sasha could have been a great role player for us. His injuries last season really eff’d him. Allowed Shannon Brown to come in and shine.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Dakota Says:
McRaider5150,
So what are you trying to say? That if you placed Jason Campbell in the same offense Gannon had Campbell would be as good or better than Gannon was?
If so you are nucking futz!
I will tell you this, if you put Gannon on this team, we would be 8-8 or 7-9. Bye the way we were 8-8 with Gannon in his first year. I bet everyone blame it on him then too.
I think if you Give Campbell a go to Wr and good team, her can be a good QB.
Washington has been GARBAGE for years, so why judge Campbell on his time there??
December 15th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Let’s say we could choose between Jason Campbell or the 1998-2002 Rich Gannon to come in and QB this team this year……there isn’t a Raider fan on the planet that would choose Campbell over Gannon. Well, maybe Mistic, but he must be on crack.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:57 am
So what are you trying to say? That if you placed Jason Campbell in the same offense Gannon had Campbell would be as good or better than Gannon was?
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Give Jason Campbell Gruden and Vincent Jackson and I think Gruden will show you how good his offense can be.
Will it be good as Gannon’s? I wouldn’t bet on it since we have 2 STUD RBs that Gruden would call on instead of airing it out.
But I do think this team would be dammm good.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:00 am
there isn’t a Raider fan on the planet that would choose Campbell over Gannon.
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You have the advantage of knowing what Gannon already did in those years with a great coach and HOF WRs.
I don’t even see the comparison.
Gannon comes in here with Cable, Hue, DHB, and JLH …
Not to mention the 5 S package …
Raiders would still be 6-7.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:00 am
I will tell you this, if you put Gannon on this team, we would be 8-8 or 7-9. Bye the way we were 8-8 with Gannon in his first year. I bet everyone blame it on him then too.
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Wrong, we would be at least 8-5 right now with victories over AZ and the 49ers, and he would win two of the next three putting him at 10-6 for the season.
I love these unprovable arguments! lol
December 15th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Dakota Says:
Let’s say we could choose between Jason Campbell or the 1998-2002 Rich Gannon to come in and QB this team this year……there isn’t a Raider fan on the planet that would choose Campbell over Gannon. Well, maybe Mistic, but he must be on crack.
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Dumb question to me. We all know what Gannon did for that period, but no one can tell the future when it comes to Campbell. When Gannon came here, I said to myself the same thing I am saying now. Let’s give him a change to show that he can play FOR US!!!!!!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Come on Jhill, you really think Gannon puts up a QB rating of 10 like Campbell did? Or that he wouldn’t make those schytty WRs look better? He made Doug Jolley, Jerry Porter and James Jett look good for crying out loud.
Gannon’s leadership skills, attention to detail and plain tenacity alone would have been enough for 2 more victories we than we have right now.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Dakota Says:
I love these unprovable arguments! lol
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We were 8-8 and not in the play off for his first year Jack-Ass…lol
December 15th, 2010 at 9:04 am
I am talking about this year. You guys haven’t seen enough of Campbell to know what he can do THIS year? lol give me a break.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:06 am
So the HS kid attacks the ref b/c he didn’t like the call.
Would the ref have been wrong for knocking the guy out?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:06 am
186.McRaider5150 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Dakota Says:
I love these unprovable arguments! lol
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We were 8-8 and not in the play off for his first year Jack-Ass…lol
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He wasn’t playing the weak ass 2010 AFC and NFC West teams either jackass.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I want this for x-mas!
http://common2.csnimages.com/lf/1/hash/7013/2664237/1/NFL_2BToaster_2B-_2BOakland_2BRaiders.jpg
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I would love one of those. Be even better if the inside logo could be switched to Chiefs, Chargers, and Broncos logo.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Most of the guys that seem to think Jason Campbell is even near the QB Gannon was are probably the same guys who were yelling for Tuiasosopo to replace Gannon.
Can’t fix stupid lol.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Come on Jhill, you really think Gannon puts up a QB rating of 10 like Campbell did?
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Of course not.
But I thought we lost the SF and Az games because of defensive breakdowns and bad STs.
I simply do not believe you make one change on this team to Rich Gannon, Tom Brady, or Manning and we are winning this division.
Cable and staff are not that impressive to me. I think that is my main issue with you scenario.
I’d be more inclined to say that if this team had Gruden or Belechick, we’d win the division.
Cowher, Shottenheimer, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, Wisenhunt can all be added to that list.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Most of the guys that seem to think Jason Campbell is even near the QB Gannon
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Only Mistic has said that.
It’s not even a realistic comparison IMO since GRUDEN and HOF WRs were on the roster. HOF Olinemen as well.
Cmon Dakota!
Jason Campbell 2010 version = nowhere near the MVP years of Gannon.
Oakland Raider 2010 version = nowhere near the talent level of the Raiders during Gannon’s MVP years. Especially the coaches!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:00 am
there isn’t a Raider fan on the planet that would choose Campbell over Gannon.
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You have the advantage of knowing what Gannon already did in those years with a great coach and HOF WRs.
I don’t even see the comparison.
Gannon comes in here with Cable, Hue, DHB, and JLH …
Not to mention the 5 S package …
Raiders would still be 6-7.
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I disagree. The Arizona game wouldn’t have come down to Gannon. Gradkowski couldn’t find the end zone to save his life. Gannon finds it at least once that game. Plus we beat the Niners. 8-5
December 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Dakota,
Let’s put it this way.
Why didn’t Kobe win without Phil Jackson?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:16 am
In 1999 we had Seattle, Den, SD, and Kan in our Div. Not one of those teams had a better record than 9 and 7. Not a great division
December 15th, 2010 at 9:16 am
JHill,
You really don’t think Brady or Manning would improve this team by a couple of games to win this weak division? Wow.
Wow.
I know this isn’t basketball, where one guy can make a huge difference, but if there is one position in football that can change the course of a season it would be QB, and I would bet my life that had we had Tom Brady or Peyton Manning as QB this year we would be a couple of games better than we currently are. At minimum we beat AZ and SF.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:17 am
* Meant to say the Zona game wouldn’t have come down to Jano.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:19 am
as a modicum of hope must endure, here’s to Patrick Willis and Takeo Spikes damning Rivers
and Baby Howie drilling White Cassel in the midsection (guy is a fool if he plays).
December 15th, 2010 at 9:19 am
I simply do not believe you make one change on this team to Rich Gannon, Tom Brady, or Manning and we are winning this division.
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Madness. If you put Tom Brady on this very team we would MAYBE have 2 losses. Our offense would be much better, keeping our defense off the field. His leadership would eliminate a lot of the bull crap breakdowns we have.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:19 am
As of now we have proven that we cannot handle anyone outside of the AFC or NFC West.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:20 am
195.J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Dakota,
Let’s put it this way.
Why didn’t Kobe win without Phil Jackson?
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Don’t get me wrong, I certainly agree that coaching is important, but great players are important as well, and leadership too. Gannon, Manning, Brady….all great players and field generals as well. They would all vastly improve the 2010 Raiders. A good or great coach would have us at 8-9 wins right now as well.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bcz24,
put Brady on a team with a miserable O-line and he would get nothing done. All about pressure or the lack of pressure.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
MLonetree,
Can you break down McFaddne’s game against Jax for us? Interested in your thoughts.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:27 am
M Lonetree Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bcz24,
put Brady on a team with a miserable O-line and he would get nothing done. All about pressure or the lack of pressure.
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And i still maintain that we would only have lost 2 games with Brady at the helm this year.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:27 am
203.M Lonetree Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bcz24,
put Brady on a team with a miserable O-line and he would get nothing done. All about pressure or the lack of pressure.
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So we would actually be worse off with Tom Brady than we are with Jason Campbell? And if Campbell went to NE he would be as good as Tom Brady because their line protects the QB better?
Oh and those weaponds Brady has….rookie TE, no RB, old ass WR…..those are that much better than Zack Miller, Bush and McFadden?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:28 am
weapons…my bad
December 15th, 2010 at 9:28 am
The Raiders have 6 wins this year, Cable has 7.
Skip to 1:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7SkQoXLukc&feature=related
December 15th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Dakota,
5 stars for your boy.
W/out Ford botching the KO thereby giving away the game, McF could’ve been AFC player of the week.
cautionary tale – CJ28 stellar for two years, now disappeared, next?…
McF stunk two years, now emerged, next?…
December 15th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Oh, so all the prior decision in the Az game contributed nothing to that loss? Cable doesn’t have to take any responsibility as HC for the performance of his team?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Here’s a guy the Raiders should get in for a workout right away: Andy Fantuz (6-4,220 lbs). Led the CFL in receiving yardage this year. Big and tough with amazing hands. Plays big in big games and all weather conditions. Obviously has decent speed to amass that much receiving yardage. He’s working out for the Steelers and Vikings right now. Al should take a look at him pronto. We need a big, physical move the chains receiver who can stay healthy. This guy could be a cheap answer to a glaring need without using a draft pick.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Dakota,
don’t extrapolate from my statement about Brady. I said nothing about the Raiders or JaSoup. Rewind to Super Bowl against the football Giants (and that was with a good O-line).
December 15th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Insinuations beg for extrapolations lol.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:36 am
You have to look at the coaching in several games that we lost this year, you also can’t assume that we would have lost against AZ or Miami had Jason Campbell played. Why are we giving those loses to Campbell??
Since JC never had a rating of 10 before joining the Raider, I have to put some of that on the entire team. I do recall some critical drop in that game that would have made a big differnce.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Barbara Steisand thinks Ob@ma is a disappointment…..Ob@ma must be doing something right then!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:40 am
LMN (stealth euro) can withstand any lineup change you have. When it’s all said and done,he will be victorious.
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Dell,
I beat you and LMN in your FF league this year. no trash talk needed from you boys
I did however go 0-4 in games against JFB and BCZ!
Rodgers = 70 points
Mendenhall = 20 points
Panthers defense at home against Arizona with Skelton at QB = 20 points
Podunk Express = 110 points
LMN = 105 points
I am the 5th place champ!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:41 am
McRaider5150,
If the 1998-2002 Gannon were our QB, there wouldn’t have been a QB carousal.
Case closed.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Dakota,
“I resemble that remark.” – Curly Howard
December 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
2½ years ago, most here rooted for Raheem Morris to be our HC… I wonder how we would have looked, Im pretty sure we would have been in the PO’s now…
December 15th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Lmao,…2.5 years ago most here never heard of Raheem Morris,..and still havent…EuroTrash.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
“The Lakers also received the rights to 6-foot-10 Ukrainian center Sergei Lishouk”
Now we are talkin’!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Blake is more consistent a 3 point shooter with more all around offensive game plus a better defender
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I agree witht that, but in the triangle with the dominant players we have, Blake will never be anything but a spot up shooter. Give Sasha 20 minutes a game, and I doubt you see MUCH of a difference.
Sasha is 6′7 and a pesky defender.
Probably just homering for the young guy, but I think Sasha could have been a great role player for us. His injuries last season really eff’d him. Allowed Shannon Brown to come in and shine.
He has regressed since the 08 playoffs and didn’t even make his own national team that summer after he seemed to be on the rise. Still hasn’t learned how to get to the rim, run the break, or develop a midrange game. Trust me I’ll always remember his late game clutch shots and times he’d get under the skin of opposing guards (Nash Parker and Bibby come to mind)
December 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Dakota Says:
203.M Lonetree Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Bcz24,
put Brady on a team with a miserable O-line and he would get nothing done. All about pressure or the lack of pressure.
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So we would actually be worse off with Tom Brady than we are with Jason Campbell? And if Campbell went to NE he would be as good as Tom Brady because their line protects the QB better?
Oh and those weaponds Brady has….rookie TE, no RB, old ass WR…..those are that much better than Zack Miller, Bush and McFadden?
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Dekota,
Can you please tell us who want as your QB next year?? Of course the HOF player like Brady and Manning wil not be available.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:52 am
I never heard a single fan ever root for Raheem Morris to be our HC. Admittedly I wasnt a member of this blog at the time.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:54 am
most here rooted for Raheem Morris to be our HC… I wonder how we would have looked, Im pretty sure we would have been in the PO’s now…
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yeah right. most Raider fans on this blog didn’t think he was qualified for the Bucs HC job, much less ours!
DB Coach promoted to HC? come on man!
Mark Dominik (GM) rebuilt that team in the draft. Too bad Al Davis doesn’t think he needs any help
December 15th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Looking at the Bucs roster, I only see 3 guys on offense from the old Allen/Gruden regime: Cadillac Williams, Earnest Graham & Josh Johnson (all backups)
2 guys on defense: Barrett Ruud & Ronde Barber
December 15th, 2010 at 9:59 am
# bcz24 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:52 am
I never heard a single fan ever root for Raheem Morris to be our HC. Admittedly I wasnt a member of this blog at the time.
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during Gruden’s last offseason, it caught quite some steam here that we should go get him.. I thing it was Florida Pete or Bob Marley who started it, but we were sure it wouldnt happen, but we wished it would happen…
last year, I believe when the turnaround hadnt happen in TB yet, I believe Dakota was yanking our chain for rooting for Raheem Morris…
believe me there were support for him here
December 15th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Dekota,
Can you please tell us who want as your QB next year??
December 15th, 2010 at 10:00 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
2½ years ago, most here rooted for Raheem Morris to be our HC…
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Who ????
December 15th, 2010 at 10:01 am
223.McRaider5150 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Dekota,
Can you please tell us who want as your QB next year?? Of course the HOF player like Brady and Manning wil not be available.
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This argument has nothing to do with next year, I am simply arguing that Rich Gannon was a better QB than Jason Campbell. I find it hard to believe that I even have to make this argument, but sometimes you have to stomp out idiocy.
As for Campbell and next year….I agree that we don’t have a lot of options to upgrade the QB position, but you never know what might break loose during the offseason, so we should keep our options open. I don’t think Al will pick another QB high in the draft in his lifetime, so I don’t see us trading into round 1 to get a guy like Newton or Locker, and even if we did, this franchise hasn’t shown the ability to guide a young QB to success, so why even go there?
I don’t have a problem with Campbell next year, but not because I think he is great or even good, he is what he is and circumstances may dictate that we can’t do any better. I would have a problem keeping Tom Cable as HC or having Garbagekowski as QB next year. Either of those scenarios are unacceptable too me.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:02 am
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Looking at the Bucs roster, I only see 3 guys on offense from the old Allen/Gruden regime: Cadillac Williams, Earnest Graham & Josh Johnson (all backups)
2 guys on defense: Barrett Ruud & Ronde Barber
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not quite true…
most their o-line, Kellen Winslow and still some defensive guys… but Morris sure have cleaned out teh Bruce Allen grandpa-players
December 15th, 2010 at 10:04 am
And if Campbell went to NE he would be as good as Tom Brady
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Let’s put it this way ….
I’ll take Belechik and Campbell, and I’ll give you Cable and Brady.
Belechik would be smart enough to come up with a game plan to beat Cable and Co.
Cable would NOT have Brady in the Shotgun all game.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Can you please tell us who want as your QB next year??
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Jason Campbell
former first rounders Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, Brady Quinn & Matt Leinart can battle for the 2 backup spots behind him and that would please Mr. Davis
2nd & 3rd rounders should be spent on the O-Line. 4th & 5th rounders should be spent on CB’s to replace Huff and CJ37 (Branch, Mitchell, Brown & Eugene have safety covered). Davis will break the bank to keep Routt, Wimbley & Seymour around. Big John & Groves will resign cheap. Jarvis Moss, Ricky Brown & Thomas Howard will be out.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Dell,
I beat you and LMN in your FF league this year. no trash talk needed from you boys
I did however go 0-4 in games against JFB and BCZ!
Rodgers = 70 points
Mendenhall = 20 points
Panthers defense at home against Arizona with Skelton at QB = 20 points
Podunk Express = 110 points
LMN = 105 points
I am the 5th place champ!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Raiderrockstar,
Wow!! hang your hat on a lone victory against me. I’m moving on to the semi final round, and you just dumped every player on your team for fifth place.
I’m impressed.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:07 am
I am simply arguing that Rich Gannon was a better QB than Jason Campbell.
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I don’t think anyone is arguing that point but you, lol.
THE point is that THIS year’s team doesn’t compare to the team Rich Gannon played on. From coaching to HOF supporting cast.
Rich Gannon’s career is done and he was an MVP player.
Jason Campbell was not an MVP player this year.
But the COMPARISON is as ridiculous as comparing apples to oranges.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:08 am
not quite true…
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Kellen Winslow came in 2009, Morris’ rookie year as HC
December 15th, 2010 at 10:08 am
I was around when Raheem Morris’ name came up on this blog. 10 minutes later the Bucs held a press conference to announce his promotion to Head Coach.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Since JC never had a rating of 10 before joining the Raider, I have to put some of that on the entire team. I do recall some critical drop in that game that would have made a big differnce.
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LOL. So when his stats are beyond mediocre, make sure to put some of that on the entire team as well. By the way, has JC taken DMAC out for dinner yet? He should.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
hang your hat on a lone victory against me
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Dell,
I hang my hat on a lot of things, but fantasy football isn’t one of them … to be honest, I’m more concerned about my son, the Raiders final 3 games and deer hunting (black powder) on Saturday!
5th or 6th place matters not.
Not sure why you even brought it up?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Come on Jhill, you really think Gannon puts up a QB rating of 10 like Campbell did? Or that he wouldn’t make those schytty WRs look better? He made Doug Jolley, Jerry Porter and James Jett look good for crying out loud.
Gannon’s leadership skills, attention to detail and plain tenacity alone would have been enough for 2 more victories we than we have right now.
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Leadership skills and attention to detail???? So WTF happened in the Super Bowl? Anybody have his QB rating for that game? And what the hell did his leadership and attention to detail do for him in his last season here? A QB is only as good as his supporting cast. That’s the way it always has been and the way it always will be.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:11 am
J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:07 am
I am simply arguing that Rich Gannon was a better QB than Jason Campbell.
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I don’t think anyone is arguing that point but you, lol.
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Okay, then everyone agrees that we would be a better team in 2010 with the better QB, 1998-2002 Rich Gannon, than we are with Jason Campbell.
Just what I have been saying all along!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Dakota,
I think this was stated before. I don’t anyone thinks that JC is a better QB than RGan. But we are judging Campbell when he has a suspect coaching staff, a host of Rookie and second year WR and a bad to average oline. That’s all I’m saying.
Now if we keep this team together next year and JC doesn’t improve along with the team, then by all means we might need to look elsewhere. I just want to give him a shot.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:12 am
RRS
I figured BSJ has not been around lately and somebody needed to yank you around for awhile.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:14 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:08 am
not quite true…
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Kellen Winslow came in 2009, Morris’ rookie year as HC
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true, but he was hired WHILE Gruden was the HC… so not true…
December 15th, 2010 at 10:16 am
240.RaiderDebo Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Come on Jhill, you really think Gannon puts up a QB rating of 10 like Campbell did? Or that he wouldn’t make those schytty WRs look better? He made Doug Jolley, Jerry Porter and James Jett look good for crying out loud.
Gannon’s leadership skills, attention to detail and plain tenacity alone would have been enough for 2 more victories we than we have right now.
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Leadership skills and attention to detail???? So WTF happened in the Super Bowl? Anybody have his QB rating for that game? And what the hell did his leadership and attention to detail do for him in his last season here? A QB is only as good as his supporting cast. That’s the way it always has been and the way it always will be.
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You must be a recent Raider fan, because everyone who was a Raider fan in 2002 knows that the Bucs knew every play and audible the Raiders had thanks to Gruden, because the Raiders didn’t change things up due to the lack of prep time between the AFC Championship game and the SB with unusual one week layoff between games.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:16 am
you just dumped every player on your team
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Actually, I kept Rodgers & Mendenhall and they are starting this week!
and as far as bragging about making it to the semis, nobody will be shocked if Marley knocks you out by 40+
you took a flyer on DMAC in the draft just to mess with Dakota, said you would trade him and then backed out when he produced. There was no actual scheme behind that. hang your hat on DMAC tearing it up in a loss to JAX, I guess. Thats what kept you alive in the FF playoffs!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Okay, then everyone agrees that we would be a better team in 2010 with the better QB
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No we don’t!
Better QB play would not have won this past weekend.
For the sake of argument, let’s just say the best thing a QB could have done this weekend was throw the ball to DHB in the endzone against at least 2 defenders.
How do you think that would have turned out with Gannon throwing the pass?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
The Big Banana Says:
Since JC never had a rating of 10 before joining the Raider, I have to put some of that on the entire team. I do recall some critical drop in that game that would have made a big differnce.
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LOL. So when his stats are beyond mediocre, make sure to put some of that on the entire team as well. By the way, has JC taken DMAC out for dinner yet? He should.
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No argument here. I am just sick of hearing about a 10 rating. Brady had a rating or 40 before, that’s pretty low for him.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
If the Raiders brought in Tom Brady, allowed him to coach the offense, you could have the Cal Bears O-line and we would make the playoffs.
Print that!!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
If we win Sunday it’ll be Christman and we’ll still have a chance to get into the playoffs. GO RAIDERS!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:18 am
# 504 Raider Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:08 am
I was around when Raheem Morris’ name came up on this blog. 10 minutes later the Bucs held a press conference to announce his promotion to Head Coach.
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thanks! its not nice when people dont believe you…
well I tried to find something, but all I found was that: it was Priest who was mocking all of us that was on the Raheem Morris bandwagon when the ‘09 season wasnt rolling for him..
dakota actually said he was up for anyone if it just wasnt Kiffin or Cable… you cant talk about consistency, well he sure got it =) LOL
December 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
How many O-lineman has Tom Brady had over the last 10 years, and how successful has his WR’s been since he left?
About 20 and not so good are the answers.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Personally, for any coach to take the dysfunctional mess that Tom Cable inherited and turn it into a .500 football team deserves consideration for Coach of the Year. This team lost most of its games before the opening kickoff 3 years ago. Now I think we have a chance to beat anyone on any given Sunday. If we had guys who could tackle in our backfield, we would have beaten Jacksonville. If we add a PRIMARY WR in the offseason and teach Huff and Branch how to tackle someone it will go quite a ways.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
LMN,
Gruden wasn’t coaching in 2009 buddy. He was fired after the Cable lead Raiders dashed their playoffs hopes in Week 17 of the 2008 season
Mark Dominik (GM) brought in Winslow. case closed
December 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
246.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:16 am
you just dumped every player on your team
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Actually, I kept Rodgers & Mendenhall and they are starting this week!
and as far as bragging about making it to the semis, nobody will be shocked if Marley knocks you out by 40+
you took a flyer on DMAC in the draft just to mess with Dakota, said you would trade him and then backed out when he produced. There was no actual scheme behind that. hang your hat on DMAC tearing it up in a loss to JAX, I guess. Thats what kept you alive in the FF playoffs!
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I never requested a trade from Dell. Dell took McFadden a couple of picks before I was about to, so he got him fair and square. I rode my dissapointing players (S. Smith, L. Fitzgerald, H. Ward, Ray Rice, Jason Witten) all the way to my current 5-8 record lol.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Since *they left…….
Deon Branch, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead…….these guys wouldn’t even start for half the teams in the league, as evident prior there performance around the league prior to New England.
If Tom Brady came to Oakland, our pass protection would get magically better, by the simple fact the D-line would not be as quick off the ball after crapping their pants.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:23 am
If the Raiders brought in Tom Brady, allowed him to coach the offense,
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LOL!
Coach the offense? Is he coaching the offense in NE?
Is that coach “HIS” offense, or the Raider offense?
Tom Brady or Peyton Manning in this offense under C most of the time?
To be honest, I’d rather have Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers running THIS offense.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:23 am
247.J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Okay, then everyone agrees that we would be a better team in 2010 with the better QB
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No we don’t!
Better QB play would not have won this past weekend.
For the sake of argument, let’s just say the best thing a QB could have done this weekend was throw the ball to DHB in the endzone against at least 2 defenders.
How do you think that would have turned out with Gannon throwing the pass?
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Better QB play wouldn’t have won us the AZ game or the 49er game? There are two wins right there a better QB would have gotten us. Jason played great last week, and the only place a better QB might have improved on his performance was the last 2 minutes, so yeah, I guess we might have won if we had Manning or Brady last week.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:24 am
How many O-lineman has Tom Brady had over the last 10 years, and how successful has his WR’s been since he left?
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Belechik is a smart guy.
Put him in the Shotgun and let him throw it to the slot WR on short passes all day long.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:25 am
253.Just Win Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Personally, for any coach to take the dysfunctional mess that Tom Cable inherited and turn it into a .500 football team deserves consideration for Coach of the Year. This team lost most of its games before the opening kickoff 3 years ago. Now I think we have a chance to beat anyone on any given Sunday. If we had guys who could tackle in our backfield, we would have beaten Jacksonville. If we add a PRIMARY WR in the offseason and teach Huff and Branch how to tackle someone it will go quite a ways.
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I agree, Hue Jackson for COY!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Since *they left…….
Deon Branch, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead…….these guys wouldn’t even start for half the teams in the league, as evident prior there performance around the league prior to New England.
If Tom Brady came to Oakland, our pass protection would get magically better, by the simple fact the D-line would not be as quick off the ball after crapping their pants.
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Of course this is assuming that Al won’t force Brady to run his style offense and will have more bubble sceen to WR, more slant routes and other quick throws.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:25 am
253.Just Win Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Personally, for any coach to take the dysfunctional mess that Tom Cable inherited and turn it into a .500 football team deserves consideration for Coach of the Year. This team lost most of its games before the opening kickoff 3 years ago. Now I think we have a chance to beat anyone on any given Sunday. If we had guys who could tackle in our backfield, we would have beaten Jacksonville. If we add a PRIMARY WR in the offseason and teach Huff and Branch how to tackle someone it will go quite a ways.
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I agree, Hue Jackson for COY!
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I agree, Brad Roll for COY!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Coach the offense? Is he coaching the offense in NE?
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Actually I think he is to some extent.
They have no OC on the staff (never replaced McDaniels)and the QB coach, was a WR coach last year for the Pats and a quality control guy before that.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Of course this is assuming that Al won’t force Brady to run his style offense and will have more bubble sceen to WR, more slant routes and other quick throws.
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If Al needs to force anything, he needs to force Hue to throw that horse-shat page of flea-flickers, double passes, wildcat and swing passes to WR’s in the trash!!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:30 am
and the only place a better QB might have improved on his performance was the last 2 minutes, so yeah, I guess we might have won if we had Manning or Brady last week.
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Way to not answer the ?, lol.
Carlisle ran into the QB on the play he took the sack.
The QB should have thrown the ball a 40 yd pass into the endzone to end the game… TO DHB DOUBLE COVERED.
Carlisle runs into Gannon, he gets sacked too.
Gannon throws the ball to DHB in the endzone, incomplete pass…game over = we still lost.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Lol if Al Davis had pulled off a trade for Tom Brady or P. Manning last April, or if he had somehow magically cloned Rich Gannon (circa 2001 version) every last one of you would be going ape schyt proclaiming certain victory in the SB!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:32 am
You know what, we do win more games with Gannon at QB this year.
We win the Az, Houston, and Miami game with no problem.
Sorry Dakota.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:30 am
and the only place a better QB might have improved on his performance was the last 2 minutes, so yeah, I guess we might have won if we had Manning or Brady last week.
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Way to not answer the ?, lol.
Carlisle ran into the QB on the play he took the sack.
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Wrong, Gannon avoids Carlisle, slides to the outside giving his WRs more time and then hits Murphy near the sideline for 20 yards. We can play this game all day long.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
every last one of you would be going ape schyt proclaiming certain victory in the SB!
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In the offseason ????
Of course! I said 11-12 wins when we had Gardowski and Campbell going into the season.
We’re unbeatable in the offseason.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I don’t know about you guys, but to me the fact that the Raiders pass defense has gotten shredded by some pretty average passing games confirms that they need another starting-caliber CB.
I’ll be the first to admit that Routt dramatically improved this season, and even played well in some games. But in other games he got torched regularly. Too inconsistent for a guy who will get tested a whole lot.
CJ37 has declined quite a bit.
McFadden and Ware? Could be good eventually, but at this point in their careers I think it would be foolish to expect them to be anything more than nickel or dime package guys.
I’d love to see Al make a run at FA CB Jonathan Joseph.
I’m not sure what CBs would be available to the Raiders on draft day, but I’ve heard very good things about Davon House from New Mexico State. Apparently he’s very solid in man coverage. Kid has size and speed. He’s been projected everywhere from the 2nd round to the 5th round, so who knows where he’ll eventually end up.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Carlisle ran into the QB on the play he took the sack.
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You mean Campbell ran into Carlisle?
And I sure the hell know Gannon wouldn’t have wasted 22 seconds to throw that 4 yard pass to Murphy.
Face it, after Murphy was tackled on the 8 yard pass, everything went to hell.
If you want to place the blame on Hue and/or Cable for not having them prepared, fine I can roll with that. But to say that the last 3 plays of the game were anything other than a complete embarressment to the game of football is ridiculous!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Wrong, Gannon avoids Carlisle,
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Campbell shaking off Carlisle was nice, it was the Jags defender that stepped right in after that that was the problem.
Gannon avoids Carlise, get nailed by the Jags defender or 2 that Carlisle and Walker missed.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:37 am
269.J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
every last one of you would be going ape schyt proclaiming certain victory in the SB!
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In the offseason ????
Of course! I said 11-12 wins when we had Gardowski and Campbell going into the season.
We’re unbeatable in the offseason.
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We are unstoppable in May and June aren’t we? lol
December 15th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Typical Marshall Defense….26th against the run. Garbage coach in, Garbage product out.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Tom Brady is the wrong example. Stick with Peyton Manning. Brady benefits from great coaching and the best OL in football (we should have drafted Sebastian Vollmer). The guy sits back in the pocket looking for open receivers for hours at a time. They’ve been baffling teams with their little spread, ball-control passing offense for years, with or without Brady. That’s my main argument with him. For all the leadership and fire everyone talks about, their offense thrived without him for an entire season. For all we know, they might have lost more games if he hadn’t been hurt.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:40 am
It’s just your petty personal agendas talking.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Not that there aren’t plenty of reasons to criticize Campbell, but how exactly did he run into Carlisle? Campbell was in the pocket, looking downfield when the offensive line collapsed on him and Carlisle practically bear-hugged him.
Not throwing to the end zone on the last play was terrible, though.
The fact is, the Raiders can’t rely on Campbell to win games for them. And on Sunday, they shouldn’t have had to.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:44 am
This just in…you know I love brian,…hes at my tailgate every game, for several years…he turned me on to Henny,..but Iv been taking polls all week,..so far hes the only one Iv polled not rooting for the Niners tomorrow…wow,…he gets no Henny sunday…cant believe he would rather not have playoff hopes just due to Niner hatred….amazes me. Not Bauce!!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:45 am
FU all,..Im on the Jason Campbell bandwagon,..hope he starts every game in 2011,..he didnt give up 31 points in the second half,..I have spoken.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Doofus Boob/Brien:
Maybe you guys could open up a Twitter account. So that those who want to keep up with your comings and goings, can.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:46 am
If you want to place the blame on Hue and/or Cable for not having them prepared, fine I can roll with that.
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I think that is what I have been saying.
Like I said, why was DHB the only guy running into the endzone on that final play?
Why didn’t ANYONE – QB, HC, OC, WRs, OL – look like they were PREPARED for that final 40 seconds?
Don’t you remember the announcer in the Gannon clip talking about how the Raiders have practiced that scenario thousands of times in the offseason?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
The year Brady got hurt was the one year in the last 7 they didn’t make the playoffs, and one of the few times they lost to the Colts.
Yes they went 11-5, but in 4 of those losses they scored under 14 points.
They did not “thrive” one bit.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Im on the Jason Campbell bandwagon,..hope he starts every game in 2011,..he didnt give up 31 points in the second half
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Agreed with Bobby!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Hey old man I have a twitter account….and have over 2000 followers.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Typical Marshall Defense….26th against the run. Garbage coach in, Garbage product out.
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Is a new defensive coordinator going to run a different defensive scheme, where the linemen don’t freelance and all run to the ball carrier instead of maintaining gap discipline?
Or is it more likely that a new defensive coordinator is going to do the same thing that every Raiders DC has done for the last several decades, and run slight variations of the Al Davis Cover 0?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Brian however doesnt have one,..dont think so anyway.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I doubt Maria Sharapova wants to be married to a NJ Net. I expect we’ll see the divorce announcement soon.
Florida Pete, you still have a shot!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:49 am
For all the leadership and fire everyone talks about, their offense thrived without him for an entire season.
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Exactly !!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:49 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:20 am
LMN,
Gruden wasn’t coaching in 2009 buddy. He was fired after the Cable lead Raiders dashed their playoffs hopes in Week 17 of the 2008 season
Mark Dominik (GM) brought in Winslow. case closed
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Gruden and Allen was fired Jan 16th, and Kellen was hired the feb the 27th, the trade was orchestrated by Gruden, but only finalized by Raheem Morris..
December 15th, 2010 at 10:50 am
285.YoungAmerican Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
# Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Typical Marshall Defense….26th against the run. Garbage coach in, Garbage product out.
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Is a new defensive coordinator going to run a different defensive scheme, where the linemen don’t freelance and all run to the ball carrier instead of maintaining gap discipline?
Or is it more likely that a new defensive coordinator is going to do the same thing that every Raiders DC has done for the last several decades, and run slight variations of the Al Davis Cover 0?
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D coordinaotrs had success earlier this decade under the same circumstances. Why can’t they now?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:51 am
JFB
What’s a Bruce lover like you talking about Tom Brady for?
Still trying to justify?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Ya Im soooo glad Cable beat Gruden that game,..because his walking papers were already drawn up for his firing after that game,..see what that big win got us?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Dakota Says:
Lol if Al Davis had pulled off a trade for Tom Brady or P. Manning last April, or if he had somehow magically cloned Rich Gannon (circa 2001 version) every last one of you would be going ape schyt proclaiming certain victory in the SB!
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Yes we would, but with this team there would still be questions about the coaching and the WR’s.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:52 am
DATELINE!!! MARCH 16, 2011
Dakota says:
March 16,2011 ay 10:44
I saw the replay, Carlisle ran into him, Gannon would have gotten away.
Jhill says:
March 16,2011 at 10:45
No way Gannon is going to get away, he wasn’t that quick.
Dakota says:
March 16,2011 at 10:47
Wrong Gannon avoids Carlisle.
Jhill says:
March 16, at 10:50
Didn’t we have this argument once before.
Dakota says:
March 16, 2011 at 10:53
I was right then and today.
How do you know jhill
December 15th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Old man, you post about Gradkowski more then anyone else here,..youre the one obsessed with him.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:53 am
KoolKell Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:51 am
JFB
What’s a Bruce lover like you talking about Tom Brady for?
Still trying to justify?
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Justify what?
I made no lofty projections for the season for Bruce other that he would come in halftime of week 2 and get some starts this year.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Im on the Jason Campbell bandwagon,..hope he starts every game in 2011,..he didnt give up 31 points in the second half
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Agreed with Bobby!
I’m on board
December 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
The year Brady got hurt was the one year in the last 7 they didn’t make the playoffs, and one of the few times they lost to the Colts.
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That kinda proves a point.
Matt Cassell, not Brady took this team to a 11-5 record. So do you think winning for NE has anything to do with coaching or the system??
December 15th, 2010 at 10:56 am
YoungAmerican Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I don’t know about you guys, but to me the fact that the Raiders pass defense has gotten shredded by some pretty average passing games confirms that they need another starting-caliber CB.
I’ll be the first to admit that Routt dramatically improved this season, and even played well in some games. But in other games he got torched regularly. Too inconsistent for a guy who will get tested a whole lot.
CJ37 has declined quite a bit.
McFadden and Ware? Could be good eventually, but at this point in their careers I think it would be foolish to expect them to be anything more than nickel or dime package guys.
Nnamdi was getting burned his first couple of years, they guy looked like a bust
December 15th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I am right today, and I’ll still be right in March of 2011 lol.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:56 am
JCAMPBELL!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 10:57 am
Old kell,..youre so full of crap,..if it werent for the fact you own Sweden, you`d be a loser.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
8-8 prediction for the year, we win the division with it…watch
December 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
298.McRaider5150 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
The year Brady got hurt was the one year in the last 7 they didn’t make the playoffs, and one of the few times they lost to the Colts.
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That kinda proves a point.
Matt Cassell, not Brady took this team to a 11-5 record. So do you think winning for NE has anything to do with coaching or the system??
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hmmm, I thought most Raider fans claim Belichick would be nothing without Brady…..now it is the opposite? I have always read in here, “Hey, look at his record in Clev, he sucks without Brady!”
December 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I call 11-5 thriving. Otherwise, how the hell could they win 11 games with a guy who never started a game in college? Either Matt Cassell is almost as good as Brady or the supporting cast, coaching and system was awesome! Your choice. Truth be told, the Pats won SBs when the QB was de-emphasized. Would you say Brady had a better season in 2001 or 2007??
December 15th, 2010 at 10:59 am
They didn’t win the division that year, how many times has Brady not won the division?
One time out of 11 years after this season.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:00 am
A raider blog that wont shut the he!! up about Tom Brady….wow
December 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Nnamdi was getting burned his first couple of years, they guy looked like a bust
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Yes, but CJ and Routt are in their 8th and 6th years in the league respectively.
The truth is that Nnamdi isn’t getting any younger, and it’s a bit much to expect either McFadden or Ware to be starters next season. Much less that they BOTH somehow develop into starting-caliber players.
The Raiders need a more reliable option across from Nnamdi, because whoever that guy is, he’s going to get tested a lot.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Can’t believe all these Campbell lovers out there. If anyone wants him to be are starting qb next yr then you don’t want what’s best for this team. Can’t believe people are arguing about what Gannon would do on this team. Campbells career will never come close to gannons. Lmao not even close.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I`ll take Campbell over whoever you can come up with thats available,..lets here it Einstein, whos available you`d rather have?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Going 11-5, not making the playoffs and failing to win the division is an ABSOLUTELY AWFUL YEAR by Patriots standards.
Go to Belicheck and any Patriots fan and ask about the 2008 year. Pretty sure they won’t tell you how they thrived, but tell you that they lost a bunch of games in the middle of the season to the Jets, Dolphins and Colts that they never would have lost had Tom terrific not got hurt.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Jmackraider12 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:00 am
A raider blog that wont shut the he!! up about Tom
Brady….wow
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There’s a certain poster here being disingenuous regarding Brady/Gradkowski.
Campbell may be better than Gradkowski, but he aint no Tom Brady, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:05 am
The Race War continues.
Later.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
298.McRaider5150 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
The year Brady got hurt was the one year in the last 7 they didn’t make the playoffs, and one of the few times they lost to the Colts.
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That kinda proves a point.
Matt Cassell, not Brady took this team to a 11-5 record. So do you think winning for NE has anything to do with coaching or the system??
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hmmm, I thought most Raider fans claim Belichick would be nothing without Brady…..now it is the opposite? I have always read in here, “Hey, look at his record in Clev, he sucks without Brady!”
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They actually need each other in my opinion. They are working very well together, but they also have a really good system.
NE drafts football players that already fit in their system.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Parlay cards come out today at Mont Bleu,..see if I can go back to back on wins,…unsure if I should take SF and the 9.5…but I will, and predict they win outright. Wont take Oakland and lay the 6.5,…no friggin way.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Lol,
What are you talking about KK? Race war….who is discussing race in here right now?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:06 am
jmcclain Says:
Can’t believe all these Campbell lovers out there. If anyone wants him to be are starting qb next yr then you don’t want what’s best for this team. Can’t believe people are arguing about what Gannon would do on this team. Campbells career will never come close to gannons. Lmao not even close.
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So who do we bring in to QB?????????
December 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Dakota,
to satisfy your cravings, the Raiders are looking into landing two flawed ex-ND QBs this offseason. They are offering a bowl of grits for Jimmy Claussen (Andrew Luck Carolina bound) and a partially used feminine napkin for Brady Quinn. I say they are offering too much, but you know AD goes all out to take care of your preferences.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Lol…old fool kell,..as soon as he gets his mouth shut up by people in here,..pulls out that race card,…such a weak old man.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:08 am
I would rather have Campbell over Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb.
But I do hope that Harvard kid comes available from the Bills.
Have him and Campbell duke it out for the starting gig next year.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:08 am
318.M Lonetree Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Dakota,
to satisfy your cravings, the Raiders are looking into landing two flawed ex-ND QBs this offseason. They are offering a bowl of grits for Jimmy Claussen (Andrew Luck Carolina bound) and a partially used feminine napkin for Brady Quinn. I say they are offering too much, but you know AD goes all out to take care of your preferences.
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Yeah baby….and hire Charlie Weis as HC!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Old kell,..hes lost,…he gets frustrated in here because he can never win an argument,..so, all he has, is his fake race card,..he pulls it out, and runs,..been doing it for years…sad.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Hey fire baby,..F next year,..until we eliminated why talk of next year?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Wassup Dell!
Getting my butt kicked by a 5 year old Wii Bowling, lol!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:11 am
D coordinaotrs had success earlier this decade under the same circumstances. Why can’t they now?
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What, from 2000-2003? Want to bring back Chuck Bresnahan? He’s with the Tuskers in the UFL, I’m sure he’d love another NFL gig.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
The year Brady got hurt was the one year in the last 7 they didn’t make the playoffs, and one of the few times they lost to the Colts.
Yes they went 11-5, but in 4 of those losses they scored under 14 points.
They did not “thrive” one bit.
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I disagree. Belichick has proven he doesn’t need any one player (it’s killing me to admit this). Everytime someone predicts doom when he let’s a high-profile player go, the Pats thrive. Brady is no different. He is a cog.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:12 am
# Norco Bob Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Hey fire baby,..F next year,..until we eliminated why talk of next year?
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Word
December 15th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Bob,
We aren’t eliminated, but last week’s lost damn near did it. Even if we go 3-0, no guarantee we get in and we have won 3 games in a row once in the last 7 years.
Have fun in the rain
December 15th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Later fellas!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Rain games are by far the funnest,..you bet we will have fun!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I disagree. Belichick has proven he doesn’t need any one player (it’s killing me to admit this). Everytime someone predicts doom when he let’s a high-profile player go, the Pats thrive. Brady is no different. He is a cog.
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Whoops, meant this as a reply to 314.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I disagree. Belichick has proven he doesn’t need any one player
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Uh…..the only year he didn’t make the playoffs in the last 7 years was the year Brady got hurt.
The Patriots have won the division 9 out of 10 years with Tom, and are 0 for 1 without him.
Seems like he is pretty reliant upon him to me.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
I’ve been to two rain games.
The KC last game of the year in 02 (great fun) and a Denver game around 03 or 04 (lost; not much fun)
December 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Who gives a f**k about Tom Brady? The guy is never going to be a Raider.
It’s obvious that Campbell is going to get the first crack at the starting gig next season. That goes without saying. The best thing Raider fans can hope for is that the team finds a kid they really like in the draft, and puts him behind Campbell so he can learn the game for a while, and maybe even step up if/when Campbell falters.
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers… those guys aren’t here. And their teams only found them by taking a chance in the draft.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:19 am
I hope it rains throughout the game,..hard rain…beautiful…thats football.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I disagree. Belichick has proven he doesn’t need any one player
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Uh…..the only year he didn’t make the playoffs in the last 7 years was the year Brady got hurt.
The Patriots have won the division 9 out of 10 years with Tom, and are 0 for 1 without him.
Seems like he is pretty reliant upon him to me.
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A fluke. Won the division at 10-6 last year. Brady is a great “system” QB.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:23 am
YoungAmerican Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Who gives a f**k about Tom Brady? The guy is never going to be a Raider.
It’s obvious that Campbell is going to get the first crack at the starting gig next season. That goes without saying. The best thing Raider fans can hope for is that the team finds a kid they really like in the draft, and puts him behind Campbell so he can learn the game for a while, and maybe even step up if/when Campbell falters.
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers… those guys aren’t here. And their teams only found them by taking a chance in the draft.
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Taking Brady in the 6th round is hardly what I call taking a chance. If we’re gonna draft someone, I say we do it with our 1st pick, or wait till next year.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Norco Bob
Hope all is well. I’m off to lunch. Keep these guys in here informed about Kelly.
Later, see you sunday!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Where’s our practice updates?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Taking Brady in the 6th round is hardly what I call taking a chance. If we’re gonna draft someone, I say we do it with our 1st pick, or wait till next year.
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That’s sort of the point.
There was a chance he’d be good, and a chance he wouldn’t pan out. It wasn’t a huge gamble, but it was a chance nonetheless.
Hell, if we’re going to talk about the Patriots, notice how they select a late-round QB every other year or so. So far, they’ve found Tom Brady, who is a shoe-in HOFer, and Matt Cassel, who is a mid-level NFL starter.
There’s about as much of a chance that a highly-drafted QB will pan out as there is a late-round prospect will pan out. The important thing is finding a guy who can work in your system.
I like Nathan Enderle because he comes from a pro-style offense, has a high football IQ, and a big enough arm for Al’s offense. Could be a mid-round prospect. Not a huge risk there, but certainly gives the Raiders a better outlook than Gradkowski or Boller.
I’m sure other folks around here have guys they like as well. Kaepernick, Devlin, Mallett, even Newton. Hell, if Jake Locker falls from the first round he could be an option as well.
The point is, as hard as it is to find a QB in the draft, it’s infinitely harder to pick one off someone’s trash heap and make him work out.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:32 am
# Norco Bob Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Hey old man I have a twitter account….and have over 2000 followers.
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Then I was wrong.
Talking with a friend yesterday about facebook, then twitter. Comments were that I don’t go on F. No need to. No desire to. page after page of inane ramblings of “went to lunch” “how was your day”.
Basically boring ass crap that means the posters are also bored out of their mind.
Friend replied “Twitter. who is so bored that they actually want to know what someone else is doing, or saying?”
decision was CHICKS. Girls yak yak yak. Live on facebook. yak yak yak. jump on twitter just to yak yak yak.
so, are you a groupy, or a chick?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:34 am
# Raider Dell Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Norco Bob
Hope all is well. I’m off to lunch. Keep these guys in here informed about Kelly.
Later, see you sunday!!!
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See? lol.
“off to lunch” “hope all is well”
another chick
December 15th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Raiders trying to bring the NASTY back?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=79042
December 15th, 2010 at 11:36 am
In the mood to slap some people around.
Not much time.
Where’s mistic and his idiot ramblings?
I need MR to tell me I’m someone else. Then he’ll cry about his lot in life.
having a hard time wrapping a convo around Brady
December 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Raiders trying to bring the NASTY back?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=79042
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Think Del Rio grew up a Raider fan, right?
Think he still lives in that area.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am
# Dakota Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I doubt Maria Sharapova wants to be married to a NJ Net. I expect we’ll see the divorce announcement soon.
Florida Pete, you still have a shot!
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She sucks at tennis.
Photo shoots aren’t racking in the bucks.
She’ll likely hang onto that relationship until clear alimony guidelines are set.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am
In the mood to slap some people around.
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Sammy,
Debo is here. Say something negative about JaMarcus Russell
Game On!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Sammy the Bull was a snitch,..perfect name for you…wanna slap someone around?…Im in A lot,..every game…bring it on snitch.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Rolando McClain didn’t play Sunday and was goofy enough with his short answers after the game that reporters followed up on his foot injury with coach Tom Cable on Monday.
Anything else going on with Rolando besides the foot (like a concussion maybe):
Cable: “No. It’s just the foot. Today his rehab stuff was really pretty good, but he still has an issue with it, and we’re going to continue to research it and figure out exactly what’s going on here. Felt better last week, at the same time, but not good enough (Sunday).”
The injury was first reported as arthritis and then changed to tendonitis. McClain played hurt in the win against San Diego — and had maybe his best game — and delivered a wicked shot on Darren Sproles that was close to being a helmet-to-helmet hit.
McClain was of no help Sunday, after initially dismissing requests to talk.
“I don’t know what’s wrong with me,” McClain said. “Coach (Tom) Cable will tell you at the end of the press conference.”
Told Cable said the foot was sore, McClain said, “Sounds good to me,” McClain said. “If he said it, it’s real.”
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
December 15th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Wassup peoples!
December 15th, 2010 at 11:53 am
DHB had another “iffy” foot injury last year.
Is this standard rookie treatment these days?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Week 15:
Raiders over Broncos
49ers over Chargers
Rams over Chiefs
Week 16:
Raiders over Colts
Chargers over Bengals
Chiefs over Titans
Texans over Broncos
Week 17:
Raiders over Chiefs
Chargers over Broncos
Raiders, Chiefs & Chargers all tied at 9-7. Donks 3-13
December 15th, 2010 at 11:57 am
Matt Cassel (appendectomy) told reporters following Wednesday’s practice that there’s a “99 percent chance” he will play at St. Louis in Week 15.
Cassel was only “slightly limited” in some drills at Wednesday’s session, and reiterated that he “feels good.” Bob Fescoe of 610 Kansas City attended the practice, and passed along that Cassel “looked like the clear No. 1 quarterback” as he went through drills ahead of Brodie Croyle and Tyler Palko. It’s looking good for Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe this week.
Source: Bob Fescoe on Twitter
December 15th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Jmackraider12 Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:58 am
8-8 prediction for the year, we win the division with it…watch
No way San Diego losing 2 of the last 3 although that’d be nice
December 15th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Week 15:
49ers over Chargers
Rams over Chiefs
Falcons over Seahawks
Cardinals over Panthers
Week 16:
49ers over Rams
Bucs over Seahawks
Cowboys over Cards
Week 17:
49ers over Cardinals
Rams over Seahawks
NFC West =
Rams 8-8
49ers 8-8
Seahawks 6-10
Cardinals 5-11
49ers make it with a better DIV record, like Oakland
sorry BAUCE!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
How about we sign Champ or Cromartie and Vincent Jackson. ALso sign Gaither. Playoffs for sure.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
DMAC,
Cassel might play this week, but he wont pick up right where he left off imo. I think he’ll flop this week and return to form next week against TN
December 15th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Bring On The Rain!
Lets Kill Them Donkeys!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Antonio Gates (feet) missed Chargers practice Wednesday.
NFL Network’s Steve Wyche has reported that Gates won’t play Thursday night, giving him an especially long two weeks to get ready for Week 16. The Bolts should still have no trouble wiping the floor with San Francisco at home.
Source: Kevin Acee on Twitter
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I hate to say this, but……
Let’s go Whiners????????????
December 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Jets & Ravens are looking like the 2 AFC wildcard teams in the playoffs.
Saints & Giants in the NFC
December 15th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
the 49ers can shut down the run and pressure a QB.
thats exactly how they beat us!
Now let’s see them do the same to SD
December 15th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Jimmy “the rat” Fratiano was a snitch too. If you haven’t read “The Last Mafioso” I ssuggest doing so if that is your kind of thing. Great book. BTW, Denver sucks and we are going to step on their sacks this Sunday. Go Raiders!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Is this gonna be the last season for Gates? He used to be indestructible.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Norco Bob Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I`ll take Campbell over whoever you can come up with thats available,..lets here it Einstein, whos available you`d rather have?
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still 3 games in the season. Then an off season. Maybe a lock out, The draft is far from here. Alot of things can happen between then. But it takes no Einstein to no Campbell is not the answer. But that’s fine you can settle with him. Me on the other hand don’t want to. So sense ur so smart give me three good reasons why we should keep him. Notice I said good reasons. I could give you a thousand on why we shouldn’t.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
And I hope Cassell does play in week 17. If we cant beat the Chefs with him at qb, then we don’t have any business in the playoffs anyway. Even if we win out, which certainly isn’t a given, we need a lot of help from other teams who probably won’t come through. The Chargers pretty much gotta blow it.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
AFC Playoffs:
1st seed: Patriots (14-2)
2nd seed: Steelers (13-3)
3rd seed: Jaguars (10-6)
4th seed: Raiders (9-7)
5th seed: Ravens (12-4)
6th seed: Jets (11-5)
Welcome the Ravens back to the Black Hole!
This has been your daily dose of Kool Aid!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Wanted to carry this stream forward
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 11:30 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 14th, 2010 at 11:26 am
the only differences between Rolando McClain & Ricky Brown are skin color and the size of thier paychecks!
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this is a bit over the top. when was the last time we have seen brown make a play in the hole, or backfield? We have seen romac do that on more than a few occasions. Romac crushed sproles, and body slammed a guy. he has the attitude, and was making more and more plays. Cant say brown has ever done anything i have noticed, mainly because he is sue storm, invisble.
Our MLB’s are not our issue It is both Outside LB’s are where we are getting burned.
Jax had 234 yards rushing on 35 carries
69 yards on 21 attempts were on runs between the hash marks (30 yds were on Jones-Drew final run where Tommy Kelly decided to invent his own defense, didn’t tell his team and was way out of position)
107 yds on 6 attempts to the left
68 yds on 8 attempts to the right
HHHmmmmm
December 15th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
JWB,
I don’t think it’s out of the question that SD loses 1 of their last 3 games … they have lost 6 games already to the following and Gates isn’t playing tomorrow night!
Chiefs
Seahawks
Raiders (twice)
Rams
Patriots
December 15th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
A loss is never out of the question, but I think it’s prudent to expect the worst and hope for the best. Plus, we gotta win out anyway and we aren’t real good at winning 3 in a row yet. I want the Raiders to win the west as much as anyone, but it’s pretty unlikely.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
jmcclain Says:
Norco Bob Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I`ll take Campbell over whoever you can come up with thats available,..lets here it Einstein, whos available you`d rather have?
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still 3 games in the season. Then an off season. Maybe a lock out, The draft is far from here. Alot of things can happen between then. But it takes no Einstein to no Campbell is not the answer. But that’s fine you can settle with him. Me on the other hand don’t want to. So sense ur so smart give me three good reasons why we should keep him. Notice I said good reasons. I could give you a thousand on why we shouldn’t.
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Good job avoiding the questions.
He is better than other other available QB at this time.
WHO DO YOU WANT AS THE QB??? Jamarcus Russell, Bruce Grad, J.T., Boller, Quinn, Linert, who. Gives us a damn name man????
December 15th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Damn the Damn Chargers!
Oh well, at least we crushed ‘em.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
still 3 games in the season. Then an off season. Maybe a lock out, The draft is far from here. Alot of things can happen between then. But it takes no Einstein to no Campbell is not the answer. But that’s fine you can settle with him. Me on the other hand don’t want to. So sense ur so smart give me three good reasons why we should keep him. Notice I said good reasons. I could give you a thousand on why we shouldn’t.
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1. ‘Alot’ is two words – A lot
2. ‘know’ not ‘no’
3. Sentences shouldn’t start with ‘but’ as a rule, there are instances, you do not qualify for them
4. ‘Since’ not ’sense’
3 good reasons to keep Jason Campbell
1. He is the best option presently available, and even if we do pick up another QB, you could find much worse to be your backup
2. He is cheap, his contract for next year is something like $4 million, thats peanuts for a starting quarterback
3. His stats year over year have improved every season in the league. If he started 16 games this year I am sure they would have improved here as well.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
jmcclain Says:
Norco Bob Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I`ll take Campbell over whoever you can come up with thats available,..lets here it Einstein, whos available you`d rather have?
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still 3 games in the season. Then an off season. Maybe a lock out, The draft is far from here. Alot of things can happen between then. But it takes no Einstein to no Campbell is not the answer. But that’s fine you can settle with him. Me on the other hand don’t want to. So sense ur so smart give me three good reasons why we should keep him. Notice I said good reasons. I could give you a thousand on why we shouldn’t.
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Good job avoiding the questions.
He is better than other other available QB at this time.
WHO DO YOU WANT AS THE QB??? Jamarcus Russell, Bruce Grad, J.T., Boller, Quinn, Linert, who. Gives us a damn name man????
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I have to agree here Campbell is the best option at QB including the free agents for next season. Unless Philly doesn’t decide to Franchise Vick. Campbell will be the best option for the Raiders in 2011. Trust me people if the line would block better I think he can actually be a commandable play maker back there. I think the Oline is way more important than finding a QB. If hue remains in Oakland Campbell will have a chance to succeed with some offensive line help.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Kyle Orton (undisclosed) was held out of Broncos practice Wednesday.
Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn rotated snaps in individual drills to open the workout. Orton spoke to reporters during Wednesday’s starting quarterback press conference, so he still doesn’t look to be in danger of missing Week 15. Orton’s absence from the practice does confirm that he’s not 100 percent.
Source: Lindsay Jones on Twitter
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Tim Tebow?
MM please light his azz up!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Only “name” that really been thrown around by a couple of guys is the turnover machine Carson Palmer.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
bcz24 Says:
still 3 games in the season. Then an off season. Maybe a lock out, The draft is far from here. Alot of things can happen between then. But it takes no Einstein to no Campbell is not the answer. But that’s fine you can settle with him. Me on the other hand don’t want to. So sense ur so smart give me three good reasons why we should keep him. Notice I said good reasons. I could give you a thousand on why we shouldn’t.
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1. ‘Alot’ is two words – A lot
2. ‘know’ not ‘no’
3. Sentences shouldn’t start with ‘but’ as a rule, there are instances, you do not qualify for them
4. ‘Since’ not ’sense’
3 good reasons to keep Jason Campbell
1. He is the best option presently available, and even if we do pick up another QB, you could find much worse to be your backup
2. He is cheap, his contract for next year is something like $4 million, thats peanuts for a starting quarterback
3. His stats year over year have improved every season in the league. If he started 16 games this year I am sure they would have improved here as well.
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You have to also remember that this offense has been rank last for 2 years. He did not come to a team that already had a decent offense.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Campbell>Palmer
December 15th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Only “name” that really been thrown around by a couple of guys is the turnover machine Carson Palmer.
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Palmer is on his way to being a backup in this league. Trust me he’s done!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I think the Oline is way more important than finding a QB.
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I’d say WR is the #1 need.
Vincent Jackson has to be the top priority.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
You have to also remember that this offense has been rank last for 2 years. He did not come to a team that already had a decent offense.
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Yeah and now we are ranked #9… thanks for strengthening my argument
December 15th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I think the Oline is way more important than finding a QB.
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I’d say WR is the #1 need.
Vincent Jackson has to be the top priority.
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NA, No one is catching a ball if the QB can get it out of his hands. Besides they got some good young talent at reciever. To early to judge 1st year & 2nd year guys.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Philly wont franchise Vick, they will sign him long term. Kolb will be traded.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
J Hill Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I think the Oline is way more important than finding a QB.
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I’d say WR is the #1 need.
Vincent Jackson has to be the top priority.
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I truly think that Jackson is the type of WR that Campbell has been waiting for his entire Career.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
I’d say WR is the #1 need.
Vincent Jackson has to be the top priority.
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Truth. I second this. He will be a unrestricted free agent, and will certainly love to stick it to AJ Smith twice a year.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
3 good reasons to keep Jason Campbell
1. He is the best option presently available, and even if we do pick up another QB, you could find much worse to be your backup
2. He is cheap, his contract for next year is something like $4 million, thats peanuts for a starting quarterback
3. His stats year over year have improved every season in the league. If he started 16 games this year I am sure they would have improved here as well.
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yeah baby!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I have to agree here Campbell is the best option at QB including the free agents for next season.
You have to also remember that this offense has been rank last for 2 years. He did not come to a team that already had a decent offense.
Only “name” that really been thrown around by a couple of guys is the turnover machine Carson Palmer.
Campbell>Palmer
I think the Oline is way more important than finding a QB.
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the PM crew is looking GOOD!
December 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Jackson will have a lot of offers, so Al will probably have to overpay. Especially because the Rams will likely be a top suitor, and they have their “quarterback of the future” in Sam Bradford.
If ever there was a year for a patented “Al Davis Free Agency Spending Spree”, it would be this year. Bring in Jackson, Joseph, Ryan Harris, Harvey Dahl, and Jonathan Joseph, along with re-signing Seymour and Miller, maybe Gallery and Huff, too?
I hope (wish is probably a better word…) Al Davis has that much ammo…
December 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Mentioned Joseph twice… oops.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Will,
The Oline is an area that needs improvement, no doubt. Arguably ONE change at RG makes this …. wait for it … a DOMINANT Oline.
All Olines give up sacks. There have been plenty of times when the QB has had plenty of time to throw. That pass to DHB on the last drive? Vincent Jackson scores! Better Oline? DHB catch that pass?
December 15th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
384. ????
Jackson 2 DUI arrests mean he’ll be suspended for an entire year next time he gets in trouble.
And there will be a next time.
The guy wants a massive long term deal.
No chance.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
I think the fact that we swept SD this season and have nobody to compete for balls at WR makes Oakland an attractive option for Vincent Jackson.
McFadden & Zmiller means he won’t be doubled that often either!
Ford in Year #2
DHB & Murphy in Year #3
who knows? could turn out to be a nice supporting cast!
December 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
I’ll take a Sidney Rice all day over V.Jax
December 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Jackson 2 DUI arrests mean he’ll be suspended for an entire year next time he gets in trouble.
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That’s a good point.
DAMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Want a dominant offensive line?
Harvey Dahl and Ryan Harris are both free agents, and big-time ZBS players. Harris is the quintessential RT in a ZBS, and will be available because it seems like Denver’s personnel is shifting towards a power blocking scheme.
Harvey Dahl worked with Cable in Atlanta. Dahl might be available because the Falcons also have to sign RT Tyson Clabo.
Jared Gaither would be a less expensive RT target and is versatile enough to play LT, too, in case of injury. He has been hobbled by injuries in recent years, though, so who knows how healthy he is.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
I’d love to see Michael Bush re-signed. How likely that is, I’m not sure. He could easily be some team’s #1 RB, so he’ll have plenty of suitors.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I thought Rice wasn’t a free agent until 2012?
December 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
389. Arguably yes.
Satele’s been erratic. Better of late, but erratic.
Walker is burned in protection more than not.
Gallery has had injury issues and Veldheer is doing well, but still a rook.
We MAY have Bruce Campbell at RG next year. Never know.
Henderson fell off the face of the earth at LT. Doubt he stays unless he moves to RT.
O line playing better in spurts but lets not forget they lost 2 in row after the bye in horrific fashion.
Campbell’s scrambles and creativity have made them look better than they are especially in protect.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
The Oline is an area that needs improvement, no doubt. Arguably ONE change at RG makes this …. wait for it … a DOMINANT Oline.
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Cable seems pretty confident that Bruce Campbell will be a BEAST right guard next season.
so that 1 change would be RT?
Langston Walker is a mauler. a beastly run blocker that is slow as molasses. a true clunker in pass pro
please don’t mention Barnes or Henderson for the RT spot!
December 15th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
New QB or not, the offensive line has to be improved. Especially if a rookie is brought in to back up Campbell next season, you want to put your QBs in the best possible position to succeed.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Barnes is a good enough swing tackle, but nothing more than that. Still commits too many false start penalties, but then again what Raider offensive lineman doesn’t?
December 15th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Jackson 2 DUI arrests mean he’ll be suspended for an entire year next time he gets in trouble.
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Minnesota seems pretty content with Jared Allen at DE!
he was traded there from KC under the same circumstances and immediately sold his bar in Kansas City (and grew a mullet)
December 15th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
please don’t mention Barnes or Henderson for the RT spot!
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LOL!
Sorry, but you know I think my boy Barnes should be starting at RT.
I’ll take Walker at RG and Barnes at RT right now ALL DAY LONG!
December 15th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
DMAC Says:
I’ll take a Sidney Rice all day over V.Jax
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Rice won’t be a free agent will he??
December 15th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Jared Allen grew big horse teeth too!
December 15th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
The whole O line with the exception of Gallery & Valdheer needs to go packing along with the CABLE. This Cable expirement has gone for way too long.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
395. For whatever reasons, the Raiders don’t seem to like him or use him very much.
This is a contract year and he’s shown flashes of what he can do.
Pass blocking has improved immensely
December 15th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
December 15th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I thought Rice wasn’t a free agent until 2012?
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Rice won’t be a free agent will he??
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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_relatednews.aspx?sport=nfl&id=4188
December 15th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
According to Vittorio Tafur on Twitter, the Bills have signed Kellen Heard off Oakland’s practice squad.
Not really a big deal, but there’s some news
December 15th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
401. This ones for KK. Yeah, but Allen’s white…:)
December 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
408. Kind of a big deal. I like Kellen. Got a bad rep for mangling Colt but again, kinda liked that.
Could’ve been a Raider maybe.
Oh well…I do think we need DT depth. Seymour’s not going to play forver.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Al gonna have sloppy Depends on Sunday too. Amy gonna be miserable!
December 15th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
I’ll take Walker at RG and Barnes at RT right now ALL DAY LONG!
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RG’s in the zbs are required to pull a lot, aren’t they?
Big Langston is 6′8″ 365 lbs!
can you imagine DMAC waiting 5 seconds for him to move his fat butt and open up a hole for him?
December 15th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Also, Raiders sign DT David Howard, a 7th round pick of the Titans this year who apparently didn’t make the team, to replace Heard on the practice squad.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
new post!
December 15th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I have criticized JC too, but heres an interesting fact. Dating back to his days at Auburn he has changed offenses 9 times in the last 10 years. I say give him a few seasons with Hue unless a rare rookie or a far better veteran comes available.
Zook
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